Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 25, 2025


The Fight to Take Back American Cities, Trump Criminalizes Burning the Flag & The Maxwell Testimony

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Jeffrey Epstein Donald Trump Ghislaine Maxwell Hillary Clinton Ehud Barak Todd Blanche Mike Benz Mike Bundrant Johnson Putin Glenn Maxwell Pam Bondi Adnan Khashoggi Libby Emmons Alex Acosta Maria Karina Machado Lindsey Graham Vladimir Zelensky Kristen Welker Victor Pinchuk and 18 more
The John Bolton FBI Home Raid Presidential Cabinet Meeting Live From The White House

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On today's episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec is joined by a special guest to discuss the latest in the latest headlines. President Trump announces a new initiative to take back the streets of Washington D.C. from criminals, and calls for the National Guard to be deployed to Chicago. Meanwhile, the White House releases a transcript and audio of an interview between the Justice Department and Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's imprisoned accomplice.

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00:00:49.460 Christ is king.
00:00:51.080 President Trump today acknowledging a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine remains elusive.
00:00:56.120 The president, though, still working on setting up a face-to-face with Putin and Ukrainian
00:01:00.520 President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
00:01:02.180 We're going to see if Putin and Zelenskyy will be working together. 0.52
00:01:06.940 You know, that's like oil and vinegar, a little bit.
00:01:09.440 They don't get along too well.
00:01:10.760 But in an exclusive interview with Meet the Press moderator Kristen Welker, Russian
00:01:14.460 Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov making clear there is no meeting planned and there won't be
00:01:19.500 for some time.
00:01:20.500 Putin is ready to meet with Zelenskyy when the agenda would be ready for a summit.
00:01:30.420 And this agenda is not ready at all.
00:01:32.780 The Justice Department has publicly released a transcript and audio of the interview between
00:01:37.620 Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's imprisoned accomplice.
00:01:42.840 Did you ever observe President Trump receive a massage?
00:01:47.480 Never.
00:01:48.120 There's photographs of Mr. Epstein and President Trump together.
00:01:54.000 Yes.
00:01:54.480 Those all appear to be social settings.
00:01:56.420 Yes.
00:01:57.440 That's my memory.
00:01:58.680 There were social settings.
00:01:59.680 I think they were friendly, like people are in social settings.
00:02:02.760 I don't recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance.
00:02:06.060 I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting.
00:02:09.580 The Trump administration's ongoing efforts to combat crime are showing promising results,
00:02:14.280 keeping our Capitol and its citizens safe.
00:02:17.120 Since President Trump announced his initiative, the White House has reported over 700 arrests
00:02:22.580 and 91 illegal guns seized so far.
00:02:25.180 President Trump now says he may also send troops to Chicago,
00:02:28.880 though state and local leaders are strongly pushing back on that idea.
00:02:32.740 We don't have to live like this.
00:02:34.140 My message to my fellow citizens here in D.C. or all across the country would be
00:02:38.900 that allowing vagrants and armed robberies to take over your city, that's a policy choice.
00:02:45.140 What President Trump is showing is that if you just empower local law enforcement
00:02:48.700 to arrest and prosecute the bad guys, we can take back American streets.
00:02:54.260 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:58.120 We are here live in Washington, D.C.
00:03:01.440 Today is August 25th, 2025.
00:03:05.360 Anno, Domini.
00:03:06.620 Folks, the days of lawlessness are over.
00:03:11.360 It is time to bukele every American city.
00:03:16.900 Take back our streets.
00:03:19.900 And what do I mean by that?
00:03:21.280 The days where you could spit in a cop's face and go viral on X, they're over.
00:03:26.240 The days when kids thought it was okay to steal, assault, and vandalize are over.
00:03:31.940 These are our cities. 0.88
00:03:34.100 They want to say, oh, oh, Trump is being fascist.
00:03:38.160 Trump's a pro-definite.
00:03:39.280 No, no, it's called common sense.
00:03:41.380 And it's something that I like to call normal.
00:03:44.140 No, I'm sorry.
00:03:44.760 If you're not popping wheelies in a dirt bike, driving around people,
00:03:48.260 just trying to walk down the street, families, children, uh-uh.
00:03:52.220 You are going away.
00:03:53.620 And that includes all of the ATV gangs in every major city.
00:03:59.580 Look, normal is when you can walk down the street in a big city
00:04:04.480 and not have to worry about getting mugged or knocked out.
00:04:09.540 You remember the knockout game, boys and girls?
00:04:12.100 Or shop without having to worry about open shoplifters and pickpockets.
00:04:16.840 Or walk down the street, take your kid to, I don't know, karate practice
00:04:22.280 and not have to worry about fentanyl zombies chasing you down the sidewalk
00:04:27.880 or even having to tell your son, you know, having to look him in the eye
00:04:33.660 when he says, Daddy, why is that person twitching on the ground?
00:04:37.380 And you can say, well, son, you don't have to say, well, son,
00:04:39.780 that's the benefit of freedom.
00:04:41.300 That's just one of the benefits of freedom.
00:04:43.820 No, it's not.
00:04:45.480 We don't have to live like this.
00:04:47.120 We've never had to.
00:04:48.340 In fact, this is a choice.
00:04:50.680 And when there is a federal nexus in all of these crimes,
00:04:55.000 President Trump should absolutely take the National Guard approach
00:04:59.000 that he's taken here to Washington, D.C.
00:05:02.160 And I can tell you, the streets are clean.
00:05:05.740 The streets are safe now.
00:05:07.780 You see, we're going to take, we're actually talking about going
00:05:11.180 and taking the kids to the museums tomorrow
00:05:13.960 for one of the first times that we've done in a long time.
00:05:17.380 We might even go out this weekend.
00:05:18.800 We might even go out this evening.
00:05:20.380 Maybe I'll take Tanya Tay out this weekend.
00:05:23.580 Maybe, just maybe I will.
00:05:25.680 Because you see, folks, we couldn't do that before all this.
00:05:29.840 And when I say go out, look, you could go out to certain locations,
00:05:33.300 but then you had to go right away, right?
00:05:35.280 You had to get out and you couldn't just walk around. 0.98
00:05:37.540 Go ask big balls what happens with that. 0.98
00:05:39.800 When you stay out too late, when you stay out and you get in trouble, 0.98
00:05:42.700 people say, oh, you're asking for it if you stayed out.
00:05:45.500 There are parts of the world that don't have to live like that.
00:05:50.620 I've lived in those cities.
00:05:52.520 I've lived in much bigger cities all around the world
00:05:55.980 and in places where they have serious police presence
00:05:58.940 and actually take crime seriously, street crime, guess what?
00:06:04.000 You don't have to worry about that.
00:06:05.820 You can walk around at 3 a.m.
00:06:09.740 There are parts of Europe that are like that.
00:06:11.580 There are parts of, go talk, just go look at Singapore.
00:06:13.920 All right, we did a whole episode on Singapore years ago,
00:06:17.140 and I would stand on business when it comes to Singapore.
00:06:21.680 Go look at how clean the streets in Singapore are.
00:06:24.320 Go look at how safe the streets of Singapore are.
00:06:28.240 How did they take a backwater country, city, really, just an island,
00:06:33.880 and turn it into the powerhouse, one of the four Asian tigers of the 1980s?
00:06:38.400 How did they do that?
00:06:39.680 A little thing called law and order.
00:06:42.560 Law and order.
00:06:43.300 See, people focus on the quote-unquote scary part.
00:06:46.120 What they miss is the liberation part, the liberation of families,
00:06:51.260 the liberation of young people being able to go out and have a good time.
00:06:56.060 We did so many videos from Warsaw recently that went so viral.
00:06:59.380 People saying, how can we do this?
00:07:01.060 How can you have a city of millions and millions of people?
00:07:03.640 And they're just totally feeling free to walk around.
00:07:06.580 It's simple.
00:07:07.840 It's called violent offenders and harassers and people committing a street crime.
00:07:12.180 Go away.
00:07:12.700 And if you commit those crimes, guess what?
00:07:16.060 You're not coming back.
00:07:17.260 It's really simple.
00:07:18.880 Bukele the cities.
00:07:20.840 Be right back.
00:07:21.420 Jack Posobiec, Mike Benton's coming up.
00:07:42.700 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Human Events Daily.
00:07:47.400 We're here in Washington, D.C.
00:07:49.340 Now, a lot of people have been asking me about this.
00:07:52.520 I've certainly been asking about it for quite some time.
00:07:55.700 Ghislaine Maxwell, this is something that we've been calling for here on this program
00:08:00.140 for I think at least four years at this point.
00:08:02.720 Back to the very beginning of Human Events Daily, saying, why won't someone just go and sit down
00:08:10.840 with Ghislaine Maxwell?
00:08:12.840 Keep saying, where are the files here?
00:08:14.400 Where are the files there?
00:08:15.240 And I say, look, you've got a source of information that is something of a captive audience, if you
00:08:21.780 will right now, it's something that I certainly remember when I was down at Guantanamo Bay and
00:08:27.800 able to see how those sources of information were acquired and were utilized.
00:08:35.060 And I said, look, this is an opportunity to perhaps learn some more.
00:08:39.000 So the Ghislaine Maxwell tapes and depositions and videos came out.
00:08:43.580 And I said, it's a good first start.
00:08:45.160 I spoke on War Room Saturday morning.
00:08:47.280 And I said, I think it's a good first start, good first meeting.
00:08:49.660 And I certainly hope it's not the last, but I didn't really get a chance to dig into it
00:08:53.620 too much.
00:08:54.500 And so joining us to be able to do that is Mike Benz.
00:08:57.620 You guys know him.
00:08:58.260 He is the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.
00:09:01.300 Benz, what's going on, man?
00:09:02.920 How you doing, Jack?
00:09:05.160 So that's my assessment.
00:09:06.940 You know, my read off from the top line of it was good first meeting, right?
00:09:10.660 It's a good start.
00:09:11.540 And people will say, you know, we used to get this question at Guantanamo all the time.
00:09:15.440 And they would say, you know, I was so as an analyst in the in the in the human cell
00:09:19.240 down there and they would say, well, OK, well, how do you know they're telling you
00:09:22.000 the truth and how, you know, I said, we don't just, you know, assume they're telling the
00:09:26.240 truth.
00:09:26.540 You know, you conduct source validation and source validation is a process that is
00:09:30.520 constantly ongoing.
00:09:32.260 And so you sit down, you ask your first set of questions, you say, oh, interesting.
00:09:36.500 Then you go and check that out.
00:09:38.040 And then you come back and you do so over and over and over again.
00:09:42.000 And so I want to get your assessment at least on what we've received thus far.
00:09:46.720 Yeah, I certainly hope what you said is is how it plays out.
00:09:50.220 I thought it was it was very interesting that there were DOJ did ask the questions for the
00:09:57.460 most part that Twitter wanted DOJ to ask.
00:10:03.440 I think I feel like with with so many other things, as with so many other things in the
00:10:10.440 Trump administration, they're very responsive to the buzz of the base.
00:10:16.460 And so, you know, it was sort of an around the world tour, which was the good part of it.
00:10:22.980 And I'll get to what some of the key findings were from from what Ghislaine Maxwell's responses
00:10:28.700 were, but I have to caveat it by saying that I sort of wish that the interview itself was
00:10:35.740 conducted by a random anonymous account on Twitter with a with a deeper knowledge of
00:10:44.280 the Epstein case, because there are many of these questions that are asked and answers
00:10:48.520 that are given by Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:10:50.060 And there's no real follow up or or next deep dive into what the actual meaning of the thing
00:10:59.240 is or more details about it.
00:11:01.280 And so it's yeah, there's there's it's an it's so funny you say that because I had the
00:11:05.280 exact same takeaway reading the transcript that, you know, and I remember I this was even
00:11:10.680 back when I was working the human cell.
00:11:12.220 That's what it would be like.
00:11:13.360 You have you have somebody on, you know, someone's in the booth and you're sitting there listening
00:11:17.040 even in real time and you're like, what was nice back then is you could you could pause
00:11:21.740 and say, oh, you have a phone call and then that person could leave the booth and you could
00:11:25.760 say, hey, ABCDEF, you know, you need to follow up on this, follow up on this, follow up on
00:11:30.860 this and then you could go back in real time.
00:11:33.420 Now, I'm guessing they probably had a little bit of that because you can you can see a few
00:11:37.380 breaks here in the transcript.
00:11:38.880 But at the same time, yeah, it's exactly right.
00:11:40.700 There's so much you need to follow up with on here.
00:11:43.340 But at the same time, if this was just a first meeting, hopefully the first in a series
00:11:47.940 of meetings, then it's actually not that bad.
00:11:50.600 Right.
00:11:51.080 But I guess what you're saying is so Todd Blanche, who did the the invest the interrogation
00:11:55.140 here, should have had a lurker Twitter account open and he should have had a live thread on
00:12:01.000 on the lurker.
00:12:02.260 I'm not saying that.
00:12:03.120 I didn't say that.
00:12:06.260 OK, so what did the Clinton do?
00:12:08.720 I can't even imagine how the legality of such a thing.
00:12:11.660 But but but yes, basically, it's like phone a friend.
00:12:14.780 You just grab somebody.
00:12:15.600 You just you just grab somebody.
00:12:16.780 You pull them in.
00:12:18.040 Right.
00:12:18.500 Yeah, that's just true.
00:12:19.740 It's just it's just the I think part of the issue here is and this is another reason why
00:12:25.220 I think for all the heat that Pam Bondi has taken, it's it's really not all that appropriate
00:12:32.460 in my view, for her to kind of be the face of it, because she's not the subject.
00:12:37.580 This is not an ordinary crime or an ordinary criminal cinematic universe.
00:12:45.820 The Epstein cinematic universe is something that you need.
00:12:49.240 It's almost like Star Trek or something or like Marvel.
00:12:52.280 Like it's everyone knows that the common crimes and I but there are people who are really,
00:13:00.920 really deep autistic nerds about it, who like eat, sleep and breathe.
00:13:07.400 The entire cinematic universe, they can recount every story and sub story and branch of it.
00:13:13.300 And I don't know who at DOJ is like the in-house Trekkie, so to speak, who just knows who has
00:13:22.040 all the Epstein action figures so that when they have a the real life character in the
00:13:26.960 room, they can actually get to the bottom of what happened.
00:13:31.200 And you can tell, by the way, just just to to piggyback on that, you could tell, by the
00:13:38.540 way, that some of the questions that were asked were very detailed.
00:13:42.480 So whoever came up with this question plan obviously knew exactly chapter and verse, right,
00:13:50.060 in terms of the Epstein lore and just knew every little nook and cranny of it.
00:13:56.380 But at the same time, it was just sort of this rapid fire.
00:13:59.460 OK, we're going to go down the list of each question, you know, almost like yes or no questions.
00:14:04.400 Did you ever do this?
00:14:05.140 Did you ever do that?
00:14:05.760 Did you ever do this?
00:14:06.320 Did you ever see that?
00:14:06.860 And it's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, without this broader discussion or or an example
00:14:12.940 of, you know, basically, you don't really see any basic elicitation approaches here or
00:14:17.480 different angles being run.
00:14:18.800 It's just this direct questioning over and over and over.
00:14:22.400 Right, right.
00:14:23.380 Well, I'll I'll read off some of the some of the transcripts, parts of it that I thought
00:14:28.300 were very interesting.
00:14:29.520 So so Todd Blanche from DOJ asked, did you or did Mr. Epstein ever do any business transactions
00:14:37.560 with the Clintons?
00:14:38.840 And Glenn Maxwell says, I was part of the beginning process of the Clinton Global Initiative.
00:14:43.600 And that was something I helped with.
00:14:45.300 And that was me.
00:14:46.200 And Jeffrey may have helped me and help them.
00:14:49.800 Todd Blanche says then said, did you give money or did did Jeffrey give money to the
00:14:55.340 Clinton Global Initiative?
00:14:56.280 And Glenn says, well, so there's that.
00:14:59.040 I think he did do that.
00:15:00.480 And I believe that money may have also been independent of me.
00:15:03.920 And she goes on to basically describe how they came up with the idea on a trip at Davos with
00:15:10.340 with with Clinton.
00:15:11.740 And this is also around the same time that Epstein was flying Bill Clinton around Africa while
00:15:18.080 they were setting up the Clinton Foundation.
00:15:19.900 So that's now a direct confession from Ghislaine Maxwell, which adds to the Epstein lawyers
00:15:29.420 who claimed in court that Epstein co-founded the Clinton Foundation.
00:15:33.520 This was actually while negotiating a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
00:15:37.880 Epstein's lawyers wrote, Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton
00:15:41.840 Global Initiative.
00:15:42.560 And this is also an interesting bit of confirmation, given that the Clinton Foundation is back in
00:15:52.120 the crosshairs this week, as there have been there's been reporting from John Solomon and
00:15:58.100 Just the News that three different FBI investigations into the Clinton Foundation were shut down by
00:16:06.240 Loretta Lynch during the Obama DOJ during the 2016 campaign, and that the IRS also had a sprawling
00:16:16.600 investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
00:16:18.440 But that, too, was shut down because the IRS claimed that they did not have enough resources to
00:16:25.060 investigate the Clinton Foundation fraud.
00:16:27.660 So, I mean, I can only imagine how massive the fraud must be that it's too big for even the IRS to
00:16:34.860 investigate, and obviously this is their get-out-of-political-cronyism free card.
00:16:39.900 This is their way of saying, oh, no, we didn't do favors for them.
00:16:43.340 It was just anybody who commits that much tax fraud, we wouldn't investigate because it would
00:16:47.660 take too much IRS resources.
00:16:50.560 Right, like we're led to believe that if we had kept the 80,000 IRS agents that the IRS asked for
00:16:58.380 under the Biden admin, like they would go straight after the Clinton Foundation.
00:17:01.980 Yeah, it beggars believe.
00:17:05.740 No, it's very simple, and we see things about how the Clinton Foundation, of course, was used
00:17:11.480 to set up their own ability for pay-for-play schemes.
00:17:17.020 By the way, it also goes back to Ukraine, which was Ukraine was, of course, the number one source
00:17:22.000 of funds for the Clinton Foundation.
00:17:24.300 I love, by the way, every time I say that, they try to fact-check me and say, no, no, no,
00:17:28.120 it wasn't Ukraine, it was people in Ukraine who were the, oh, well, thank you, I appreciate 0.93
00:17:33.500 that, appreciate the clarity there, right?
00:17:35.320 They make this weird semantic argument to say, no, no, it was just oligarchs from the
00:17:40.460 country of Ukraine.
00:17:42.340 You can't say that the money came from Ukraine.
00:17:44.500 It's totally different, totally different.
00:17:45.960 Because that's exactly how we talk about, oh, I don't know, Russia, their country next door.
00:17:50.660 Right.
00:17:51.240 No, it's just the former Ministry of Energy and the people who control all of Ukraine's
00:17:59.200 media and natural gas and agricultural assets.
00:18:04.160 Like, it's just ordinary civilians.
00:18:07.440 These are the same kind of oligarchs that they love.
00:18:10.500 I mean, the FBI took careful notes, Stefan Halper's notes, which came out, he was part
00:18:16.960 of the original CIA crew during Iran-Contra and then was an FBI informant during Russiagate,
00:18:24.140 kind of kicked off Russiagate in the summer of 2016.
00:18:26.640 And, you know, they were charting all of Trump and Mike Flynn's relationships with, quote,
00:18:32.100 Russian oligarchs.
00:18:33.140 And meanwhile, they're doing the same thing on the Ukraine oligarch side.
00:18:36.660 But, you know, there were other exchanges that I felt were very frustrating, particularly
00:18:42.220 around the intelligence.
00:18:42.920 Well, Mike, we are coming up on a quick break here.
00:18:45.640 So let's put a pause there.
00:18:48.300 That was the first exchange.
00:18:49.580 The Clinton Foundation, huge.
00:18:51.620 We've outlined that.
00:18:53.220 Coming up after the break, we are going to get into the other exchanges.
00:18:56.440 Folks, we're parsing through this documentary evidence and now direct testimony from Ghislaine
00:19:03.200 Maxwell to Todd Blanche, the DOJ, what was going on with Epstein and his operations.
00:19:10.520 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily on Real America's Voice.
00:19:14.200 Park it here.
00:19:14.800 Right back.
00:19:15.220 Well, they talk about influences.
00:19:24.580 These are influences and they're friends of mine.
00:19:28.840 Jack Posobiec.
00:19:30.340 Where's Jack?
00:19:31.300 Jack.
00:19:32.280 He's done a great job.
00:19:34.200 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:19:38.040 Here we are back.
00:19:39.320 Live Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
00:19:43.900 We're going through the Ghislaine Maxwell transcripts and the audio that's been released
00:19:48.300 in the last segment here.
00:19:49.700 We just talked about how Ghislaine Maxwell admits, and this has been something that's already
00:19:54.080 come up in court, that it was her money and Epstein money and Epstein contacts that went
00:19:59.620 into the very founding of the Clinton Foundation itself.
00:20:04.120 Our guest is Mike Benz.
00:20:05.620 He wanted to get to a couple other exchanges.
00:20:08.340 Mike Benz, what were you looking at?
00:20:09.940 So there were several other funny moments in it.
00:20:14.440 One is when the DOJ asked Maxwell for examples of Epstein's kind of money laundering machine,
00:20:25.780 his asset recovery business.
00:20:27.640 This is something that I've covered very extensively.
00:20:31.380 Epstein's start in the business in the 1980s.
00:20:35.120 So after being hired by Bill Barr's dad at the Dalton School and then going on to Bear
00:20:42.640 Stearns after a personal friendship with its CEO.
00:20:46.240 Which they ask about.
00:20:48.080 Yes, yes.
00:20:49.840 But then Epstein goes out on his own in 1981 to form International Assets Group, which was
00:20:57.780 basically this one, you know, as he built a one-man asset tracing and asset recovery business,
00:21:08.260 but also an asset shielding business where he would shield assets for oligarchs and governments
00:21:13.880 and hide them away in offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands or the U.S. Virgin Islands
00:21:22.240 or Swiss bank accounts.
00:21:24.600 And then he would he would help claim to help other groups find he basically play both sides
00:21:32.360 of the chessboard in the in the greasy business of tax evasion, effectively, which is when he
00:21:39.300 was when he was handling the family accounts of the Bronfman family at Bear Stearns.
00:21:44.020 And he was still a client of Bear Stearns even after he left.
00:21:46.640 So my presumption is that Epstein throughout the 1980s, because this is before he turned
00:21:50.800 30 years old, he went out on his own.
00:21:53.340 So, you know, you're not nearly an expert enough, only four years into a subject matter
00:21:58.280 to be able to handle billionaire clients.
00:22:01.260 So what I what I assume happened is that he flew a little close to the sun at Bear Stearns,
00:22:07.680 but they still found him useful.
00:22:09.000 So he served as the front end and Bear Stearns still did the business on the back.
00:22:12.980 But there's a great part where the DOJ asked Maxwell to give an example of what this kind
00:22:18.440 of asset tracing, asset recovery business looked like in practice.
00:22:23.800 And the first thing she starts out with is an example with like the Sinaloa cartel.
00:22:29.780 So she says, so so let's say you have El Chapo.
00:22:34.280 Oh, God, I don't know where that where that name comes from.
00:22:37.520 But anyway, we've got El Chapo and El Chapo's laundering money or he's working with the
00:22:42.960 Sinaloa cartel and he steals money from the Sinaloa cartel and he moves it to wherever.
00:22:48.100 So he's got stolen money from the Sinaloa's.
00:22:51.060 And then she goes, this didn't happen.
00:22:53.400 I'm just giving an example of something in my head.
00:22:56.540 And the Sinaloa cartel says to Jeffrey Epstein, can you track down my billion dollars that
00:23:02.040 the other cartel stole from me?
00:23:04.300 And so Epstein would go and find the billion dollars and would take a portion of the money
00:23:08.780 that was stolen at a fee and give back the remainder.
00:23:12.580 And that would be on a percentage basis.
00:23:14.820 So she's talking with the DOJ.
00:23:17.700 And the first thing that comes to mind is doing doing business with the most CIA linked
00:23:24.980 Mexican drug cartel in Mexico.
00:23:27.660 And having them as a personal client and having them get money from other, track down money
00:23:38.580 from other cartels and then taking a percentage of the cartel business.
00:23:45.040 I mean, that's the first example you can think of, helping one drug cartel get money from
00:23:51.640 another drug cartel.
00:23:52.780 So, and especially with everything I talk about with this really, I'll put it this way.
00:23:57.540 I'll put it this way.
00:23:58.720 It seems like, so, okay, what you're, what you're talking about here is when we would do
00:24:04.360 a, a first source meeting, actually it at, uh, in, uh, the, we'll just say in the military
00:24:11.120 context and cause I want to get into specifics, but what you would actually be doing is you,
00:24:16.520 you'd be, you'd be basically setting up, um, a baseline assessment.
00:24:20.900 So a knowledgeability brief or a knowledgeability base, a KB.
00:24:24.780 So when you're looking at things like that, you ask a lot, you ask these like really wide
00:24:29.100 probing questions like that one, did you ever know anything about any money laundering?
00:24:32.960 And then she mentions, well, about this and that it's like, oh, hold on.
00:24:36.780 She just mentioned five different things that you could go off into in any one of those
00:24:42.160 directions.
00:24:42.600 So you want to build that in and then off of any then further questioning plan, you
00:24:48.400 would want to go and, and people can, you know, look this up in the field manual.
00:24:52.800 It's, it's all out there on how interrogations work that these, you know, I'm not talking
00:24:57.680 about the waterboarding, you know, gosh, that's, you know, or the CIA enhanced stuff.
00:25:01.320 No, I mean the real stuff that it's, it's all based on, okay, we think that the, the
00:25:07.140 subject might, or the source might know about these things, but oh my gosh, they're mentioning
00:25:12.640 this, they're mentioning this, they're mentioning this, they're mentioning this.
00:25:15.600 So then you build your plan off of that.
00:25:17.960 And so you'd want to tailor.
00:25:19.440 So what you want to try to do is you'd have your next session to say, okay, he, tell me
00:25:24.800 about those cartels again.
00:25:26.760 Right.
00:25:27.200 And so maybe you have one session on cartels.
00:25:29.100 Then you have another session on accounts, you know, the session, maybe just, I don't
00:25:32.500 know, planes or something like that.
00:25:34.400 And, and so you, that's why I keep saying this needs to be a series because there's
00:25:39.120 just too much here.
00:25:40.820 Right.
00:25:41.520 Right.
00:25:41.840 And especially when it comes to the intelligence links, and this was, this is one of the most
00:25:45.920 frustrating parts of, of the transcript for me.
00:25:49.360 You know, the first thing I did when I popped it open is I ran a control F for intelligence
00:25:53.740 and, and all the different, the first thing I did was run a control F for Mike Benz.
00:25:59.100 Yeah.
00:26:01.760 Did she have Twitter access there?
00:26:03.400 Did she, did she know, did she get my love letters, Jack?
00:26:06.200 Is that, no, there's a.
00:26:07.880 She did actually.
00:26:08.520 It was strange.
00:26:09.320 Every, every third word was a code.
00:26:12.760 Well, so this, this is a very frustrating part of it for me because.
00:26:16.880 You know, there, it's, it's one of those things where we still don't have any official word
00:26:23.420 from either the DOJ or the CIA about the internal intelligence links that Epstein had or may have
00:26:33.040 had, this is obviously a long running saga because the plea deal, the sweetheart plea deal that
00:26:39.060 give, gave immunity to all co-conspirators known or unknown back in 2008 was cut by Alex Acosta,
00:26:47.380 who then went on to be the secretary of labor for the Trump administration after being the
00:26:54.080 dean of Florida International University Law School, which is a very CIA connected school.
00:27:00.380 I should note Florida International University is now where Juan Guaido is and Maria Karina
00:27:05.000 Machado.
00:27:05.480 So it's like a very big South America, Central America.
00:27:09.000 Mike, Mike, apologies.
00:27:10.480 Quick, quick break.
00:27:12.720 We'll, we'll finish this right after here.
00:27:15.600 Don't you dare click away from Real America's Voice.
00:27:18.300 Human Events Daily, right back.
00:27:22.180 Where is Jack?
00:27:24.660 Where is Jack?
00:27:26.980 Where is he?
00:27:28.280 Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:31.920 Great job, Jack.
00:27:33.460 Thank you.
00:27:34.220 What a job you do.
00:27:35.480 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:27:37.040 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the
00:27:41.500 guys who should be getting policies.
00:27:44.660 All right, Jack, we'll be back here because you didn't click away.
00:27:47.880 You wouldn't dare.
00:27:48.600 Never would from Real America's Voice.
00:27:50.400 And this is Human Events Daily in Washington, D.C.
00:27:53.940 We're on with Mike Benz.
00:27:54.960 We're talking about these, you know, these questions and these tantalizing questions.
00:28:00.760 A lot of it seems left on the field with this Ghislaine Maxwell interview.
00:28:04.900 But, you know, as someone who's, you know, done this kind of thing, I would just say, you
00:28:08.520 know, this is only if this is a small aperitif to the main course, which would and potentially
00:28:15.580 a banquet that is yet to come in terms of this.
00:28:20.400 And so Mike Benz was telling us, though, about how these connections, you know, these intel
00:28:26.440 connections that they're talking about actually do come directly with military connections.
00:28:31.620 And it's very interesting how just looking at this, I keep saying, wait a minute.
00:28:36.280 Why are all these arrows pointing at Ukraine?
00:28:41.160 Right.
00:28:41.760 And as you mentioned, the Clinton Global Initiative, the I think the largest individual donor was
00:28:46.820 Victor Pinchuk.
00:28:47.720 And then and then obviously, you know, as we covered, Epstein and Maxwell got on to help
00:28:53.300 co-found the Clinton Global Initiative.
00:28:55.940 And, you know, wrapping up the Epstein part of it, they did ask about the intelligence links.
00:29:02.000 And while we don't have anything on the U.S. side and again, the CIA and DOJ are still mum,
00:29:08.000 even though Alex Acosta reportedly said that he cut the sweetheart deal because Epstein, quote,
00:29:12.180 belongs to intelligence. And we still don't have the results of a CIA name trace.
00:29:17.300 We still don't have any feedback.
00:29:19.520 Pam Bondi said she'd get back to us about looking into Epstein's intelligence links.
00:29:24.300 No word back yet from Pam Bondi on that, unfortunately.
00:29:28.580 But they did ask about foreign intelligence.
00:29:32.520 And, you know, so they asked about British intelligence and Saudi.
00:29:37.200 And then they asked about Israeli intelligence.
00:29:38.980 And they asked specifically about Mossad, though.
00:29:43.880 And the real story here, Epstein got his start in this really during this highly militarized period
00:29:49.880 in American history in the Middle East around even though his clients were Saudi Arabia,
00:29:56.840 you know, Adnan Khashoggi military contractors.
00:30:01.460 That's who he claimed was his client in the 1980s.
00:30:04.680 The most profitable, highest paid weapons dealer in the world, who was a Saudi guy.
00:30:12.600 The whole Iran-Contra and Iran-Iraq war, U.S. involvement was through military sales
00:30:21.020 with involving Adnan Khashoggi, Jeffrey Epstein's client.
00:30:24.340 And that was facilitated between the U.S. and Israel.
00:30:27.260 But this was really a military intelligence story more than a kind of political maneuvering
00:30:34.220 Mossad story.
00:30:35.340 So Todd Blanche asks about Epstein's links with Mossad.
00:30:42.120 And it's unfortunate that he singled out Mossad there rather than Israeli intelligence in general.
00:30:48.960 Because she said, not deliberately.
00:30:53.500 I'll read the transcript.
00:30:55.100 He said, did you ever have contact with anyone from Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency?
00:31:01.460 And she says, not deliberately.
00:31:05.080 And then Todd Blanche says, did you ever think Epstein was getting money from Mossad?
00:31:10.080 And Ghislaine said, I wouldn't know.
00:31:11.860 But then in the very next question, he tries to move on and say, are there any other foreign
00:31:18.120 nationals or high society folks or international businessmen or politicians that had a very
00:31:23.820 close relationship with Mr. Epstein that we haven't already talked about?
00:31:27.000 And Ghislaine Maxwell says, off the top of my head, I can think of Ehud Barak.
00:31:31.320 And then Todd Blanche goes on.
00:31:33.620 He doesn't follow that up with anything.
00:31:35.260 He just then asks about Epstein's testosterone replacement therapy.
00:31:40.120 Now, Ehud Barak was the head of Israeli military intelligence from 1983 to 1985, exactly when
00:31:48.320 Jeffrey Epstein was starting off his entire career.
00:31:51.440 Ehud Barak met with Jeffrey Epstein 45 times.
00:31:55.980 They went into business together.
00:31:57.540 They started Carbine, this big military surveillance company.
00:32:03.940 They co-invested in it together.
00:32:05.320 Ehud Barak is probably the most prolific Epstein figure in the story.
00:32:11.020 Ehud Barak was also the prime minister of Israel.
00:32:14.100 While Bill Clinton was the president of the United States, we know that Jeffrey Epstein made
00:32:20.960 17 White House visits to Bill Clinton's White House and then helped Bill Clinton found the
00:32:26.040 Clinton Global Initiative.
00:32:26.980 At the same time, Ehud Barak was president, coming from running Amman, Israeli's military
00:32:32.560 intelligence.
00:32:33.720 But it's almost like the DOJ didn't know who Ehud Barak was.
00:32:38.800 And Ehud Barak, by the way, is very much an enemy of both the Trump and Netanyahu administrations.
00:32:46.000 Ehud Barak was part of that West exec group, worked closely with Avril Haines and Tony Blinken
00:32:53.440 and that whole crew.
00:32:54.640 They've been trying to revive the Israeli Labor Party as a buffer against the Likud.
00:33:00.600 So there's this kind of international alliance between the Democrats in the United States and
00:33:05.680 Ehud Barak.
00:33:06.920 And the fact that DOJ, she volunteered it, Maxwell volunteered it.
00:33:12.440 And no questions about probably the single most prolific figure in the foreign intelligence
00:33:20.000 side of this.
00:33:20.940 And so I found that to be very frustrating.
00:33:24.760 But obviously, you know, this whole military intelligence side, it's always unclear whether
00:33:30.540 the DOJ is avoiding those questions because they're simply not versed enough in the subject
00:33:35.620 matter expert or they don't want national security secrets or they don't want necessarily
00:33:40.940 things on the record that they don't want to get too close to.
00:33:44.320 So that's also, I think, the kind of protective shield that has been over much of Russiagate
00:33:50.000 and and the Ukraine affair coming into these past couple months of disclosure out of ODNI
00:33:56.600 and FBI.
00:33:58.520 Well, I think that's right.
00:33:59.780 And President Trump clearly using this and Tulsi Gabbard with these disclosures on Russiagate
00:34:04.980 to kind of reset the context of all of these conversations to say, look, there never was
00:34:10.660 anything between us.
00:34:11.800 That's all now been litigated.
00:34:14.180 Let's sit down and have this conversation.
00:34:16.100 Look, I was there in Anchorage.
00:34:17.400 People had conceived with their own two eyes.
00:34:20.500 I saw with my own two eyes that there was this direct relationship, certainly, between
00:34:27.080 the president and Putin when they came off the tarmac together or they met at the tarmac,
00:34:32.480 I should say.
00:34:33.700 But at the same time, when it seemed as though I'll put it this way, it seemed like the two
00:34:38.800 of them could probably work out a deal together.
00:34:40.900 The problem it came with when it came to the deal of all the Europeans when they got back 0.96
00:34:47.500 to Washington, D.C. on Monday for that multilateral meeting.
00:34:51.320 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:34:53.180 And this is one of the frustrations from my side of this here is I think Trump has a kind
00:34:59.720 of Reaganite peace through strength philosophy.
00:35:01.900 And I think that Trump's favors for the military industrial complex by giving so much in Pentagon
00:35:07.760 funding.
00:35:08.640 It's not just the trillion dollar Pentagon budget this year.
00:35:12.060 But remember, even during Trump won, Trump gave the military its highest budget of all
00:35:17.220 time, even in the first term.
00:35:19.120 This is all while telling the military not to get involved in Syria, not to get involved
00:35:25.340 in nation building to, you know, they accused him of being an isolationist while giving the
00:35:31.920 most money to the military ever of any president twice now.
00:35:38.640 And also, Hillary Clinton was on TV last week.
00:35:42.440 She was on live broadcast TV news saying the first thing positive I think she's ever said
00:35:48.220 about Donald Trump in the past 10 years, commending him for getting countries to fulfill their NATO
00:35:55.000 commitments.
00:35:55.480 But NATO is the big blocking point in the Ukraine negotiation.
00:36:00.500 And not only that, NATO is doing a lot of the civilian censorship work that both President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance are campaigning against.
00:36:12.240 And so I understand that the strategy that the admin is pursuing is keeping the coalition together.
00:36:21.160 You know, it keeps the Lindsey Graham's and it keeps the internationalist wing of the Republican Party somewhat loyal because they're getting their cut of the corpse, so to speak.
00:36:29.740 They're getting their cut of the pie.
00:36:31.800 But what you're running into here is that we're beefing up an organization that is on the other side of the negotiating table with us in terms of our own foreign policy.
00:36:43.020 So, you know, the analogy I've been giving, it's like giving a dog steroids and then telling it to stay in the house or like giving a dog amphetamines and telling it to, you know, just sit still.
00:36:55.020 It's, uh, uh, it's giving, giving more money than ever or, uh, when, uh, when we give our kids cupcakes and we tell them they're not allowed to run around or that they have to go straight to bed.
00:37:05.120 No, no, it's the marshmallow test.
00:37:07.040 It's like, yeah, exactly.
00:37:08.780 Yeah.
00:37:08.940 The marshmallow windows.
00:37:09.840 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:12.080 Yeah.
00:37:12.520 They're not, they're not going to, Mike Benz.
00:37:14.580 Hey man, I got about a minute left.
00:37:16.220 I know you got to run.
00:37:17.740 Tell people what your coordinates are because there's so much more to come of this.
00:37:23.380 And look, if president Trump wants to drop the hammer, we all know he will.
00:37:26.940 Yes.
00:37:27.420 Okay.
00:37:28.000 Find me on X at Mike Benz cyber.
00:37:30.620 My foundations work is that foundation for freedom online.com.
00:37:33.780 You can also find my video archives on rumble and YouTube.
00:37:39.720 That's right.
00:37:40.240 And in fact, uh, there was, uh, and just, by the way, there was a piece in the Washington post this last weekend saying that one of the Linsky's advisors saying, look, we're getting it.
00:37:48.060 We are getting a lot more pressure from the white house talking about financial and perhaps even intelligence cessation if they do not agree to this deal.
00:37:58.900 So we will see broke that down on war room. 1.00
00:38:03.640 Park it here, folks.
00:38:05.160 We ain't going anywhere.
00:38:06.440 And neither are you.
00:38:07.820 Real Marcus voice human events daily continues.
00:38:09.560 Jack is a great guy.
00:38:21.340 He's written a fantastic book.
00:38:23.020 Everybody's talking about it.
00:38:24.280 Go get it.
00:38:25.380 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:29.340 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to him.
00:38:32.660 Amen.
00:38:32.920 And what the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail, no early exits, no nothing.
00:38:44.780 You get one year in jail.
00:38:45.680 If you burn a flag, you get, and what it does is incite to riot.
00:38:49.960 I hope they use that language, by the way.
00:38:51.500 Did they?
00:38:51.900 Yeah, incitement is interesting.
00:38:52.720 Incite to riot.
00:38:54.300 And you burn a flag, you get one year in jail.
00:38:56.640 You don't get 10 years.
00:38:57.620 You don't get one month.
00:38:58.800 You get one year in jail and it goes on your record.
00:39:01.600 And you will see flag burning, stopping immediately.
00:39:06.140 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.
00:39:09.080 Impromptu, interesting cultural debate that President Trump has reignited here regarding the burning of an American flag.
00:39:18.960 Now, this is an interesting one because it goes all the way back to the late 1800s, early 1900s.
00:39:25.600 Because during the Spanish-American War, this is really when many states began, and World War I, this is when many states around the country began passing laws banning desecration of the U.S. flag.
00:39:39.360 By the 1930s, 48 states had statutes criminalizing, burning, mutilating, or defacing the flag of our great nation.
00:39:50.140 However, it was in the 1930s and then even a little bit after in the 1980s that the Supreme Court began striking these down.
00:40:01.600 And this is, you know, it's talking about flag burning and then really the Vietnam War is when it came up.
00:40:08.720 And the incitement statute that they're bringing up, that decision was only made in 1989.
00:40:15.260 So states have had these on the books for quite some time.
00:40:18.380 Now, personally, I'm all for it.
00:40:21.260 A nation is important.
00:40:24.040 And the nation's symbol is the American flag.
00:40:27.420 In Poland, it is a criminal act to desecrate the Polish flag.
00:40:31.440 If you do not enshrine these things in law, if they do not get special protection, then people will not believe they have any special protection.
00:40:41.320 Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of Human Events and the Postmillennial, is joining us now.
00:40:46.240 Libby, what do you think about the new executive order?
00:40:49.640 Yeah, I was watching this along with you and along with a lot of people here in America about the flag burning.
00:40:55.100 And I was of two minds about it.
00:40:57.080 On the one hand, I am not in favor of burning the flag.
00:41:00.640 I don't think that that's an appropriate action.
00:41:02.480 I love this country.
00:41:03.240 I think we should all love this country.
00:41:05.020 And we should honor the country by honoring some of the symbols of the country, like our flag.
00:41:10.900 But on the other hand, looking back at the Texas v. Johnson decision from 1989 and the reasons behind burning the flag and the statute there about incitement,
00:41:22.740 I do think that it is a form of political speech to burn the flag.
00:41:27.780 We saw that in all of the instances that you mentioned.
00:41:30.480 It was a big deal, you know, in the Vietnam era and civil rights.
00:41:34.140 And so I wonder, I wonder if it's appropriate to legally ban it or if this is yet another thing that we Americans should not be told legally that we cannot do.
00:41:45.980 It's just something that we should not do and we should know better than that.
00:41:49.180 Ideally, if someone's going to burn the flag as a form of protest, it has to be the ultimate severe thing that they are actually protesting and not just, you know, your garden variety, random foreign wars.
00:42:03.340 So it does seem, though, that he's he's constructed the language and that the White House office that puts this through,
00:42:10.440 they've used language that directly relates to that 1989 case because they want this to be reviewed by the Supreme Court.
00:42:17.660 It seems very much as though they're trying to incite a Supreme Court review of this, which they know they'll obviously get.
00:42:25.560 Yeah, I think that you're exactly right.
00:42:27.080 And one thing I do love about this administration is how many things they have brought to the Supreme Court,
00:42:33.000 how many instances they say this needs review again, this needs review again.
00:42:36.840 And that's great.
00:42:37.560 And yeah, in the Texas v. Johnson case, what we have is a situation where the man was burning a flag as part of a protest.
00:42:46.000 There was no rioting.
00:42:47.680 It was essentially a peaceful protest other than the flag burning.
00:42:50.980 And so the Supreme Court said there was no incitement to violence.
00:42:54.620 There was no incitement to rioting.
00:42:56.560 And so because of that, we're going to say that this is protected First Amendment speech.
00:43:02.520 And yeah, including the the language about incitement, I think, is really, really important.
00:43:07.940 I think you're exactly right about that, because what the administration is saying is if you are burning a flag as part of,
00:43:14.900 you know, a violent action as part of an incitement to further mayhem, then that's something that's going to be punishable with a year in jail.
00:43:24.580 Another thing that they did in this EO that I found interesting was they put this flag burning under more scrutiny by local law.
00:43:33.460 So they're saying if you're local law enforcement and someone is burning a flag as part of a protest or anything else in a place that is not legally allowed for open burning
00:43:43.680 or in a place where, you know, this can be considered property destruction, like it's somebody else's flag,
00:43:49.240 which is something that we've seen in some of the protests and riots in Seattle and Portland,
00:43:53.700 where they take somebody else's flag and then desecrate it,
00:43:57.120 then that is something that local law enforcement really needs to pay attention to.
00:44:01.460 So those are a few areas that are different, that make it different from the Texas v. Johnson case.
00:44:07.600 And I would love to see this back before the Supreme Court.
00:44:10.200 I think it's definitely time, especially given the situation where so many localities and municipalities have put into place hate crime type of laws against burning pride flags. 0.79
00:44:23.840 Well, before we go there, and you're right, of course, the left would totally be for this if it was about pride flags or trans flags or anything else.
00:44:31.020 But here's the exact line that they have.
00:44:33.100 Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, the court has never held that American flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action
00:44:46.600 or that is an action amounting to, quote, fighting words, is constitutionally protected.
00:44:52.280 And they specifically cite the Texas v. Johnson case of 1989.
00:44:56.020 And so this is exactly what they're talking about.
00:45:00.200 They're saying that in these, basically, I guess it's like if you're going to perhaps, you know, burn a flag on your own property in private,
00:45:11.420 that this is based on my, and I'm not a lawyer, my reading of it,
00:45:15.620 but it seems as though that would not necessarily be covered by this.
00:45:19.180 But what they are talking about, and I think we just had it up there, some, one of the crazy Union Station riots that was going on, one of more of those situations.
00:45:28.420 Yeah, I think that, I think that that's right.
00:45:30.640 And if you look at this, this footage, and we've seen a lot of footage like this.
00:45:35.140 I can't remember if I was at that one or not.
00:45:36.660 Yeah, well, there's been so many, right?
00:45:38.680 But if you look at this kind of footage and what they're doing, this is intentionally designed to be inciting, right?
00:45:44.940 I mean, a lot of these kinds of protests are the ones that in 2020 then would see the destruction of statues,
00:45:51.320 which also Trump has signed an executive order saying that that's absolutely not allowed.
00:45:56.280 And I think that a lot of times what protesters are doing, what?
00:46:01.680 Oh, I was just going to add, there's an, there is a line here specifically pointing out that this isn't,
00:46:07.480 this is also being used by foreign nationals now.
00:46:10.740 And we saw this in the LA riots to act to intimidate and threaten violence against Americans because of their,
00:46:17.940 their nationality and place of birth.
00:46:19.840 They're talking about Americans whose nationality is American and that their place of birth is America.
00:46:26.420 So why would a foreign national be given first amendment protections to burn our flag in our country when they're not even from here? 1.00
00:46:36.120 I mean, to me, that's ludicrous.
00:46:37.180 I mean, I would even, if we had longer time and maybe, who knows, maybe we'll see each other in Timcast this week at some point.
00:46:43.480 That, hint, hint, that, you know, the, the phrase freedom of expression is found nowhere in the bill of rights.
00:46:51.780 This is something that was added on by courts in later in the 20th century.
00:46:55.680 I don't think the founding fathers ever intended for the first amendment to include freedom of expression, any and all expressions.
00:47:02.580 Uh, clearly there were lots of expressions.
00:47:06.080 I mean, they used to tar and feather people back in those days, but they didn't write that that was protected by the first amendment at all.
00:47:13.540 And they clearly could have, I mean, this was a time of great public political, uh, intersection where you saw things like that, but they didn't protect that.
00:47:21.720 They specifically protected speech.
00:47:23.240 And I think that is the spoken word and the written word.
00:47:26.080 I don't think that it extends to this crazy broad, uh, broad place where we brought it now.
00:47:33.020 Yeah.
00:47:33.600 I, I think those are really good questions.
00:47:35.480 It also brings up the question of, um, campaign contributions.
00:47:39.220 Is that freedom of speech?
00:47:40.960 Is our political contributions freedom of speech?
00:47:43.580 And then you also have questions, um, we saw last year in New York city, pro-Palestinian protests where people were taking down American flags, not burning them or desecrating them, but taking them down and putting up Palestinian flags instead.
00:47:57.420 Is that something that is protected speech or is that a violation against the flag and against symbols of America?
00:48:04.340 There are so many different questions.
00:48:05.920 Go give her a follow at Libby Emmons. 1.00
00:48:09.020 And of course, always be reading humanevents.com and the post millennial.com.
00:48:13.740 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.