Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 15, 2026


THE FREEDOM 250 UFC KICK OFF: AMERICA IS SO BACK


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00:00:59.360 Iran will reopen the Strait of Hormuz for shipping, and the U.S. will lift its naval blockade, allowing ships filled with crude oil to pass through.
00:01:08.960 Pakistan's prime minister says the agreement signing will take place Friday in Switzerland.
00:01:13.740 Pakistan has been mediating these discussions.
00:01:16.560 Meanwhile, Vice President J.D. Vance telling Fox News he will attend and that Trump might go as well,
00:01:21.920 as sources tell CNN that the president wanted an agreement before he left overnight for the G7
00:01:28.060 summit expected to happen this week in France. Former Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
00:01:33.480 was hospitalized yesterday. There's no word this morning on his condition or precisely why he was
00:01:39.300 hospitalized. But McConnell's spokesperson did say he is receiving excellent care. We're learning a
00:01:44.700 fire broke out at former L.A. mayor oral candidate Spencer Pratt's campaign office in Pacific
00:01:49.300 palisades this week a photojournalist with the palisadian post captured this drone video of
00:01:54.180 firefighters on the roof they say light smoke was showing from the building on palisades drive just
00:01:58.900 after six on thursday evening it took firefighters about an hour to knock down that fire arson units
00:02:04.660 were requested but there's still no word tonight on a cause of that fire in a social media post
00:02:09.940 pratt claimed this was the work of arsonists la's embattled homeless services authority is under fire
00:02:16.660 once again. The Trump administration says it's suspending hundreds of millions of dollars in
00:02:21.920 funding over accusations of waste and fraud. President Trump is set to depart the nation's
00:02:26.700 capital traveling overnight for a diplomatic summit in France. A petition for a total ban
00:02:32.600 on hunting and fishing now gaining momentum in Oregon. If passed, the so-called Peace Act
00:02:38.540 would make it illegal to hunt animals for purposes, including hunting and fishing and even research.
00:02:45.420 Sunday was fight night on the South Lawn of the White House.
00:02:49.460 From the South Lawn of the White House, UFC Freedom 250.
00:02:56.640 To start the event, President Trump and UFC Chief Dana White walked from the Oval Office to the balcony to survey the octagon.
00:03:04.320 The President and First Lady sat ringside.
00:03:07.120 The match is happening inside an arena built just for the event, including a custom-built octagon under a massive overhead structure called the CLAW.
00:03:16.940 4,000 people packed the massive arena, while thousands more watched from the ellipse outside the White House gates.
00:03:26.480 Ladies and gentlemen, patriots, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:33.120 We're here live on Real America's Voice. Today is June 15th, 2026. Anno Domini. And what can I say, folks? America's official 250th birthday party has begun.
00:03:49.920 20 days of revelry of celebration of gladiator games of patriotism displays of military might
00:04:02.280 all of this occurring and starting last night at the white house where yes yours truly did
00:04:11.100 get to be in attendance along with tanya tay and i have to say i i almost struggle to put
00:04:19.320 into words what exactly it was that we saw last night it's it's it was multi-dimensional
00:04:27.240 it was multi-factorial it was a a meeting of patriots a meeting of so many friends and heroes
00:04:37.160 but beyond that it was display of america at its best an america that you don't mess with and yes
00:04:46.000 oh yes did i get my ufc freedom 250 shirt look at this here we go boys and girls here we go
00:04:54.480 the ufc freedom 250 shirt and yes god was on our side as well with the weather oh there we go we
00:05:02.440 got the shirt shot okay look at that there we go yes the freedom 250 shirt official no i'm not
00:05:08.160 going to be putting it on ebay and no you can't buy it off me so god was on our side god has
00:05:14.780 favorites. It's just true. You saw the weather, uh, with the lightning bolt and the rainbow on
00:05:23.300 Friday. Then you saw the storm that everybody, all the libs, even the libs that run, um, whether,
00:05:30.140 uh, what it was that, that stupid channel, not, not the good one. Oh, the weather channel,
00:05:36.280 the ones that run the weather channel, we're trying to say, Oh, it's bad. They ran a scam
00:05:40.040 and a hoax to try to get people to not come. But what did Trump do? What did Trump do?
00:05:44.780 He held it anyway.
00:05:46.840 The storm parted as it crossed over Washington, D.C.
00:05:50.600 You can go watch the tracker.
00:05:52.200 It parts, doesn't touch Washington, D.C. at all.
00:05:56.740 It's perfectly dry.
00:05:57.780 But I want to talk tonight, or about last night rather, today,
00:06:03.340 about the aesthetics that we saw, about the optics,
00:06:07.860 about the dynamics at play, the young men, the masculinity,
00:06:12.220 the combat sports the fights uh the fight i mean the final fight was amazing it's one of the
00:06:17.520 greatest fights i've ever seen uh it's certainly i mean i have people telling me that you know
00:06:22.760 outside of politics that this is just one of the best ufc cards that's ever happened but the
00:06:27.680 incredible display of patriotism and heroism by some of america's greatest fighters america's
00:06:35.880 greatest heroes the pairing of medal of honor recipients and yes i shook the hand of every
00:06:40.420 single Medal of Honor recipient that I came across last night.
00:06:45.000 Gagey just staring at the Declaration of Independence in the Oval Office before going
00:06:50.540 out.
00:06:50.940 Folks, let me tell you something.
00:06:53.300 America is back, baby.
00:06:55.340 America's back.
00:06:57.240 So we're rocking it out.
00:06:58.680 We're rocking it out today here.
00:07:02.220 UFC Freedom 250, United States of America.
00:07:05.540 Right back.
00:07:06.100 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:07:10.420 And in our way in our golden age has just begun.
00:07:34.020 This is Human Events with Jack Posobus.
00:07:35.920 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:07:40.620 Welcome to the second American Revolution.
00:07:54.140 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live here.
00:07:56.940 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:08:00.100 We're here on the program, and we couldn't be more excited to be talking about all this.
00:08:04.700 ufc freedom 250 last night what an incredible event what an incredible
00:08:09.260 incredible evening for patriotism and and there's there's been this question right there's been
00:08:17.880 this question that's come up from a lot of people saying what's the point of all this why are we
00:08:21.940 doing this so someone who understands persuasion someone who is himself perhaps a master persuader
00:08:29.600 is Joshua Lysak.
00:08:32.300 He's a New York Times best-selling author,
00:08:35.080 and he himself is a master persuader.
00:08:38.440 Joshua, how are you?
00:08:40.460 Thanks for having me, Jack,
00:08:41.540 and I'm pretty stoked to be here with you today.
00:08:44.260 Well, I appreciate it as well.
00:08:45.080 So, Joshua, when we talk about the Freedom 250
00:08:51.500 and we talk about America's birthday,
00:08:52.980 we talk about the optics of the displays of patriotism,
00:08:57.380 this giant outpouring of, of military strength and masculine strength and gladiator games,
00:09:02.880 it, it sort of harkens back to, to a lot of people were saying, gosh, isn't this similar to
00:09:08.420 Rome where you'd have the, the emperor congratulating each victorious gladiator at the
00:09:14.940 very end of each fight on, on each, you know, on each, on each round. And, and it's felt like
00:09:24.820 to me and to a lot of folks that it this i mean i'm just gonna say this this emotional welling up
00:09:30.340 of patriotism of national unity uh why is it that it's important for leaders to do things like this
00:09:40.600 why does it work and and why do people miss the incredible amounts of of political persuasion
00:09:49.040 that's going on here yes jack the way that all visual persuasion works any sensory persuasion
00:09:57.160 has to do with association what do you want associated reassociated or disassociated with
00:10:04.360 something else 250 years ago the question of our founding fathers was are we to be a nation
00:10:10.560 now 250 years later our question is more like who are we to be as a nation what kind of nation
00:10:19.020 are we to be? And now within the Trump administration, those individuals who get to
00:10:24.900 oversee our 250th birthday, we have a branding and in some cases rebranding opportunity for the
00:10:32.440 United States as a country. What are we to be symbolically? Well, we are to be unapologetically
00:10:39.260 masculine. We are to have a sense of earned pride, not pride in the sinful sense or the
00:10:47.640 demographically uh self-absorbed sense but rather pride in our accomplishments from the spacex ipo
00:10:56.120 and the rockets that that land and going around the moon landing on the moon having another moon
00:11:01.080 landing soon we have peacemaking we have the the great deal maker in chief here with president
00:11:06.840 trump now all of these symbols of americana all present in one play and then you have the optics
00:11:13.960 of UFC, of championship fighting, literally fighting, and there being actual blood being
00:11:22.960 shed a bit here on the White House grounds. That's the American warrior ethos. All of the
00:11:28.800 promotional videos showed various eras of American warriors, American soldiers, those individuals who
00:11:36.640 have come before us in the United States, previous generations. That is who we are as a country. We
00:11:41.960 You're a country of warriors and fighters of courage, and that goes all the way up to
00:11:48.540 the very top, to the White House, and all the way down to the common person who enjoys
00:11:54.100 watching this kind of content.
00:11:58.360 Masculinity is nothing to be ashamed of.
00:12:01.320 In fact, it's who we are as a nation.
00:12:03.960 We would not be here with insufficiently testosterone-laced founders.
00:12:09.020 Well, it's a display of strength and it's a display of glory. It's a glorification of strength. And so you see strength from the military side. You see strength from, of course, the fighters. You see strength in terms of the just the audience, the applause, the 85000 people who were there, massive audience.
00:12:30.500 And then, of course, the the fireworks, the celebration, all of it, unifying people around one flag, unifying people with the White House.
00:12:41.540 This is so key for nations to establish their national character.
00:12:47.060 And it's something that I think the humiliation rituals of the Biden regime, by the way, were done on on a counter purpose to.
00:12:55.960 So when you have a nation that you are glorifying, this is a signal to your populace that, in fact, yes, we are all together.
00:13:06.440 This is who we are. This is a reminder of our national unity.
00:13:10.740 It does bring people together. And it's something that creates a lead in that direction.
00:13:16.280 Whereas what Biden would do and very much by design was trying to degrade that national character by splitting us up into all these various other identities.
00:13:25.960 yes that's right and it was a sort of a continuation of the obama administration's
00:13:32.080 an international apology tour where we're so sorry that we once have been really strong
00:13:37.280 and you know we had we had colonial possessions we we were an empire in the past i'm so sorry
00:13:42.580 let's try again uh no we're we're not doing that so much of the anti-trump propaganda ironically
00:13:50.100 depicts uh president trump with laurels uh they'll do juxtaposition with donald trump and statues
00:13:55.600 of various Caesars, Julius Augustus, and so on. And that just simply makes us look cool.
00:14:02.580 An American empire is not something to be feared. It's simply who we are to be as a nation,
00:14:09.660 as a civilization, as a culture. The Western civilization is, of course, obviously the
00:14:15.180 greatest civilization that's ever existed. And the foremost of that civilization is the United
00:14:19.560 States. People will say that in that way, we are a continuation of the Roman spirit and Roman
00:14:26.160 ethos to an extent, of course, modulated by a Christian moral influence appropriately.
00:14:31.980 And I can't wait until we have, in the context of the SpaceX IPO, the American flag on Mars.
00:14:38.520 That's who we are. We are pioneers. We're settlers. We're not a nation of immigrants,
00:14:43.080 you know, welfare queens coming here for freebies, gimmies, and stimmies, but rather people who
00:14:48.500 wonder, what's on the other side of that ocean? What's on the other side of that mountain? What's
00:14:53.160 on the other side of that lake out in the wilderness? What's over there? What's outside
00:14:57.840 the orbit of the moon, for example? That's who we are. We are warriors, we are explorers.
00:15:04.620 If all of this is the goal, how would you grade the persuasion of the kickoff of Freedom 250 last
00:15:11.940 night. So much of this, Jack, is a 9.5 out of 10 on persuasion. I personally can't think of how it
00:15:21.880 could have been done better. Some of these moments, it's like they were planned by
00:15:28.620 filmmakers, of course, but this is real life from the one particular fighter draped in the American
00:15:33.720 flag, gazing upon the Declaration of Independence, and then the camera leads him as he comes out of
00:15:39.980 the Oval Office here in this clip. This is just incredible content. I don't know how else to
00:15:44.940 describe it right here. I don't know how it could have possibly done better. Possibly there's room
00:15:50.380 for some improvement. I simply can't think of it. This is patriotism 101. This is the correct way
00:15:56.340 to do it, to give particularly young people, particularly specifically young men, an aspirational
00:16:03.400 vision, that warm-blooded nature of yours, that drive for excellence, for success, even superior
00:16:13.280 success, those are all good things. That is very welcome in America. There are many Western
00:16:18.680 countries, unfortunately, that is no longer welcome in, as we've been seeing the struggles
00:16:22.320 of Canada and the United Kingdom. But here in America, we've got all these people coming for
00:16:27.180 the World Cup, seeing what Americans are really like, and now the world aspires to be just like
00:16:32.860 us. And I love the way you put that out is it's an example for young men to emulate. And because
00:16:41.220 what is the persuasion that we've been seeing, right? For the last several years prior to this,
00:16:47.420 it was persuasion that young men, particularly young white men, there's something wrong with
00:16:52.360 them. There's something inherently bad about them. We've seen the rise of this anti-white
00:16:58.540 rhetoric and the anti-whites in many positions of power. Now, instead of being blamed for all
00:17:05.560 the ills of America, it's a celebration of that. It's a celebration of, and certainly,
00:17:11.460 you know, it's a, you know, there's diversity too, but it's not about the diversity. It's about
00:17:15.620 everyone coming together and being excellent and showcasing excellence. And if that person
00:17:21.840 happens to be white, then so be it. Because it's, as you say, the positive vision of America,
00:17:27.500 not just some sort of humiliation ritual where you're being nagged and scolded constantly.
00:17:35.100 Yes, that's correct.
00:17:36.240 An aspect of the, let's say, anti-white worldview is that,
00:17:39.640 and we see this levied directly targeting Elon Musk, specifically with the SpaceX IPO,
00:17:45.100 where when it is said that someone who is successful, who happens to be white,
00:17:49.920 well, obviously it was their privilege or it was their family or it was the heteronormative patriarchy.
00:17:55.540 insert your over-educated vocabulary from your NPR Americans over there to describe that. But the
00:18:01.700 point is to dismiss the success if they're a person of lighter color like Elon Musk is. And
00:18:07.800 it's a way of filtering everything through a cultural Marxist, dare we say even cultural
00:18:14.280 communist perspective, where if the person who did the thing is white, well, then you didn't
00:18:20.020 really do the thing. Or as President Obama said, you didn't build that. That is specifically
00:18:25.180 levied as a target against white Americans. But now we're in a point where the anti-whites are
00:18:31.420 losing power and influence. And it's okay to build things. In fact, that's who we are as Americans.
00:18:38.540 And all up and down the timeline, I'm seeing people of all backgrounds wanting to be in America
00:18:43.360 to re-industrialize because this is the place of builders, dreamers, movers, shakers, and world
00:18:49.660 changers. And the great man theory of history is once again proven out correct. Elon Musk,
00:18:54.800 donald trump and so on and so forth you couldn't agree more joshua lysac will be right back because
00:19:01.680 i believe you have something to announce as well around the bend right back
00:19:06.240 human events daily real markers voice
00:19:24.800 talk about influences these are influences and uh they're friends of mine jack
00:19:35.340 where's jack he's got a great job
00:19:39.940 all right folks jack so we're back live here human events daily real america's voice we're
00:19:48.140 on with joshua lysic again ufc freedom 250 which took place last night and joshua so
00:19:54.400 So we're talking about all that. We're talking about the optics. We're talking about the aesthetics. We're talking about President Trump's massive, massive win last night. Of course, we also know that he's got the Iran deal that is in the process of being signed. We're told it's electronically signed already. There may be a signing ceremony coming up in Geneva later this Friday.
00:20:14.300 We're also President Trump also on the ground right now in France.
00:20:17.940 How does he do it? Right. 80 years old, leaves the leaves the arena, goes to the plane, fly straight to the straight to the G7 is meeting with world leaders because, of course, he does.
00:20:27.720 He's he is he's Denaldus Trumpus and no one can do what he does.
00:20:32.880 But, Joshua, one of the things that came up during the 2024 experience and during specifically the one debate that President Trump held with Kamala Harris was a discussion of the town of Springfield, Ohio.
00:20:50.740 And what a lot of people don't realize is that you yourself are a native of that very
00:20:56.720 same part of Ohio.
00:20:59.780 And if I understand correctly, you have taken it upon yourself to come in and tell the story
00:21:07.560 of this one town that went on to become not just a local story, but a statewide story,
00:21:17.140 a national and even international story, which took on massive political ramifications. Joshua,
00:21:25.780 tell us what you're working on now. Yes, that's right. Beginning of almost two years ago,
00:21:32.200 I began to hear about all manner of issues with a particular immigrant population that engaged in an
00:21:38.360 influx, the locals frankly called it an invasion into Springfield. I'm from Dayton, which is just
00:21:43.740 one town over. I spent a lot of time in Springfield over the years, and I began doing a little
00:21:48.260 research, a few conversations that escalated this past January, where a local landlord shared with
00:21:54.500 me a particularly, let's say, stomach-churning story about some local wildlife of Springfield
00:22:02.360 and the consumption of them. And I had realized that enough is enough on this matter. Someone
00:22:08.980 should do something about this, a private citizen, and I think that citizen should be me.
00:22:12.940 and i frankly jack you put me up to it uh i decided more so you decided for me a small role
00:22:21.460 yes you decided for me that i was going to write the first book on the experience of the haitian
00:22:27.740 the haitians the haitian influx into springfield ohio and you gave me the title of the book jack
00:22:33.600 you said it needs to be called haitians of springfield it is the first book that is written
00:22:38.900 on the matter it is without irony and not as a joke subtitled and oral history this is an
00:22:47.580 interesting experience the people of springfield are having because what i gathered from this
00:22:51.720 is the hoax that the media has talked about the assertion that there are hoaxes around springfield
00:22:58.240 concerning the haitian influx that itself is a hoax in more than 110 000 words and i probably
00:23:05.440 could have had it be six times longer. I have debunked all of the debunkings so-called that
00:23:11.520 the mainstream media has been doing to make Clark County residents out to be liars, racists, and
00:23:17.780 worse. I also commissioned the first professional and academic poll survey via big data poll of the
00:23:26.480 people of Springfield, registered heritage citizens of Clark County and Springfield area,
00:23:31.940 on what their experiences with the Haitian migrants have been, depending on who you ask,
00:23:36.260 there's now between 8,000 and 15,000 Haitians in Springfield, what they would like done with them,
00:23:42.020 what their experiences are, and also how many people have left Springfield as a direct result
00:23:48.460 of the Haitian influx impact. One of the people I've spoken to, and I've interviewed dozens of
00:23:55.500 people on the matter of the Haitians of Springfield, and one of them suggested, you know,
00:24:00.400 the kind of the pitch for the book should frankly be that this one city is the story of immigration
00:24:06.680 policy in america so joshua wait this is what happens when mass immigration becomes an invasion
00:24:12.780 exactly so so joshua i know you have a hard out but i just want to be clear here so you've actually
00:24:18.020 gone to springfield you've interviewed people in springfield you've got their direct responses
00:24:23.720 their direct experiences their actual eyewitness accounts something that the mainstream media
00:24:29.840 has never done in two full years.
00:24:32.620 You've done it here in this book.
00:24:35.140 Yes, that's correct.
00:24:36.420 I spent 10 weeks basically living in Springfield
00:24:39.400 the past 10 weeks,
00:24:40.460 and I was shocked, but not really shocked,
00:24:43.520 how easy it was to confirm so many
00:24:46.620 quote-unquote hoaxes
00:24:49.120 and so-called urban legends about the Haitians
00:24:52.160 and about the Haitian experience.
00:24:54.060 The fact of the matter is that
00:24:55.600 Haitians and their culture,
00:24:57.280 they have a very different experience of the world.
00:24:59.840 than do American citizens. There is an immense cultural incompatibility. Of course, I spoke with
00:25:05.620 the Haitians as well. So this is not simply a book that's written from a, let's say, a heritage
00:25:11.440 citizen's perspective in Springfield, Ohio, but rather from both the newer comers, the Haitians,
00:25:17.200 and also the Hispanic populations. There's a sizable Latino and Latina population,
00:25:22.140 largely Mexicans, in Clark County. I also interviewed elected officials, former elected
00:25:27.620 officials. I have all the good stuff in this book. I am very proud of this work, and it's my first
00:25:32.700 solo-authored book since 2023, so in three years. And of course, today marks 15 years as a
00:25:39.680 professional ghostwriter, and it's doing projects like this that kind of get some attention for my
00:25:44.120 nonfiction book ghostwriting, I'll admit. Incredible stuff. Joshua Lysak, tell people
00:25:49.220 where they can go to follow you and go to pre-order the new book. I'm at Joshua Lysak,
00:25:55.060 our publisher skyhorse publishing uh their imprint reginary publishing is going to be
00:25:59.640 publishing this we should have the pre-order uh link up sometime this week on amazon barnes and
00:26:04.960 noble a bookshop and elsewhere i actually i see it on amazon right now i see it's it's there
00:26:09.340 it's already there well what do you know you are live live on amazon joshua lysett god bless man
00:26:16.160 thank you so much great job thank you jack thank you all right folks uh as we close in on the
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00:27:50.740 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.
00:27:55.980 Really excited to have our next guest on.
00:27:57.840 He's a friend of mine, and he's the author of a book that has been an incredible, incredible
00:28:04.820 success from the very moment it launched.
00:28:07.980 It's Leland Vittert.
00:28:08.940 The book is Born Lucky, A Dedicated Father, A Grateful Son, and My Journey with Autism.
00:28:16.180 And Leland, of course, you know him as a journalist, but this is out.
00:28:19.400 It's a memoir. And when it dropped, it became an instant New York Times bestseller, peaking at number four on the list.
00:28:28.700 Leland, how are you? Thank you. With an introduction like that, I don't know what else I can add, but thank you very much.
00:28:34.740 Yeah, you just do something from there and take off. I mean, I'm good.
00:28:39.900 I think what's so remarkable about this was not what happened in the book.
00:28:45.020 and it's the story of my dad adapting me to the world rather than the world to me when
00:28:49.420 I was diagnosed with autism. But the hundreds of letters that I have gotten from families that now
00:28:56.520 don't feel alone, and it's not just parents of kids with autism, but it's ADHD and anxiety and
00:29:03.340 bullying and all the difficulties growing up of families. And as we head into Father's Day,
00:29:10.080 it's particularly apt, right? That families whose fathers, just like mine was, I didn't know this
00:29:15.780 until I wrote the book, would be downstairs at one or two o'clock in the morning in our living
00:29:20.080 room, sitting on a couch by himself. The whole house is quiet and he's there crying because in
00:29:25.500 his words, he felt like the world had turned against his son and him. I dealt with merciless
00:29:33.740 physical bullying, emotional bullying, a teacher who once said to me in front of the entire class
00:29:39.660 that if his dog was as ugly as me, he would shave its dog's rear end and make it walk backwards,
00:29:46.700 didn't use rear end. And so my dad would spend nights taking that emotional burden off of me
00:29:52.060 and putting it on himself. And what I didn't realize, obviously that my dad was doing that,
00:29:58.500 but then this army of fathers now that we are hearing from who equally feel alone,
00:30:05.160 equally feel there is no hope and equally feel uh that they have no power uh to to do anything
00:30:12.420 to make the situation for their family and for their kids better and born lucky is the proof
00:30:17.620 really that they can i think it's so great for father's day too because you do see dads and i i
00:30:25.180 have two little kids and you know i when we're out at you know different kids events or parties
00:30:31.000 or, you know, you go to one of those like trampoline parks or something and, and you will see,
00:30:34.960 you will see people, or even just when we go to the pool at the summertime, you know,
00:30:38.300 you will see dads out there and with whatever, you know, whatever the situation is, you can
00:30:43.340 sort of tell when they're dealing with something that's along one of the, you know, one of the
00:30:47.160 categories that you mentioned there. And it, I think there is more of a public acceptance of it
00:30:52.140 now, but you know, then, you know, then in prior years, but at the same time, you do sort of
00:30:57.120 realize that, you know, okay, what do I do with this? How do I, how do I come out with it? But
00:31:02.240 what I see is amazing. And I've seen you on social media going back and forth with commenters
00:31:06.720 and people saying, Oh my gosh, thank you so much for writing this book because you've given me
00:31:12.020 a community almost where of people that I can now talk to because people who have read the book
00:31:17.940 and say, Oh my, you know, here's someone who's like me. This is someone that's like this.
00:31:21.520 they're actually forming up you know groups where people can talk together as they go through these
00:31:27.640 various issues and they're using your book as a touchstone here yeah we wrote the book jack
00:31:33.080 not as how do you turn your autistic kid into a tv news anchor it's a story it was written
00:31:39.260 as a love story to my dad i wanted my dad to understand that i sort of could comprehend
00:31:46.260 the amount of work and dedication he put into me at eight years old.
00:31:51.840 Worst news any parent can hurt here.
00:31:53.800 We need to have your son evaluated.
00:31:56.760 And they take me to one of those medical testing centers,
00:32:01.020 stale coffee, shaggy carpets, uncomfortable furniture.
00:32:05.920 And they sit there for a couple of hours.
00:32:09.260 The woman comes back and says, boy, your son's got a lot of problems,
00:32:13.980 big behavioral problems.
00:32:15.100 If somebody touches them or looks at them wrong, they'll turn around and slug them.
00:32:19.400 Big sensory issues.
00:32:20.940 If I had on clothes I didn't like or socks I didn't like, I would melt down.
00:32:24.680 And big, what we would now call learning disabilities.
00:32:27.800 A 20-point spread between the two halves of your IQ score is a learning disability.
00:32:33.200 I had a 70-point spread.
00:32:34.300 So from genius to mentally retarded.
00:32:37.220 And the woman said, it's very difficult to understand what's going on inside his head, meaning my head.
00:32:42.880 my wife says that's still true by the way but the woman then looked at my dad and my dad sort of
00:32:49.360 was a little stunned goes okay what do we do and the woman goes well there's there's not much you
00:32:54.100 can do you have to meet him where he is at and my dad goes to himself you know well where he's at
00:32:59.280 is a disaster and dad said thank you very much and we left and that whole quest then from for
00:33:07.980 him became to try and figure out how to adapt me to the world. And that was his mission for about
00:33:15.200 15 years. That's, I mean, that's, that's just stunning that, that idea that instead of, you
00:33:24.120 know, and, and instead of, you know, pushing it off or, or, you know, putting it on someone else
00:33:29.840 or saying, Hey, you know, you know, attacking, you know, the, the, the situation he, he,
00:33:37.560 you know, he actually worked out a way to meet you, but then also prepare you for the
00:33:44.960 world.
00:33:45.240 And in fact, I was just pulling up here.
00:33:46.740 I was reading how that fatherhood there's this new study out, I guess, by family studies,
00:33:53.280 which kind of ties into your book, I think in a way where it says that dads are helping
00:33:57.380 out at home more than ever before. And it coincides with dads spending a lot more time with kids in
00:34:04.080 current generations than have been done before. And it goes back to, I guess, the 1960s when it
00:34:09.620 was sort of maybe 10 hours a week, you know, spend time with kids or helping out. Now it's up to 30
00:34:14.820 hours a week, 40 hours a week. In some instances, huge change. Yeah, it is. I think, Jack, it goes
00:34:21.860 back to what you've talked about, about how important fatherhood is in being a father. I
00:34:26.040 I think that's something that I know a theme of your show and something I think that is so important for dads to realize on this Father's Day that they're not alone in this fight.
00:34:35.560 Right. And the enormous differences that they can really make.
00:34:40.900 My dad certainly did in my life.
00:34:43.360 I wrote recently about hearing from so many families that there's this army of fathers all out there who all think that they are alone, that they're the only ones going through this enormous difficulty.
00:34:56.020 And we know that the single biggest determining factor and how a kid ends up later in life in very basic ways is whether there were two parents at home, whether the father was really engaged in their lives.
00:35:09.540 obviously for for the born lucky story my dad was intimately engaged in my life he not only was he
00:35:14.620 my best friend he was my only friend for a long time had to figure out how to you know help me
00:35:19.620 get self-esteem teach me self-esteem is earned not given at a young age so 200 push-ups a day
00:35:25.280 five days a week and then I would I would get some kind of prize because I wasn't gonna be good at
00:35:29.700 school I wasn't gonna have friends I certainly wasn't gonna be good at sports so that that by
00:35:36.920 my dad, that teaching, I think, shows just how much of a difference any father can make.
00:35:43.940 And I had a gentleman who's very successful. His two sons are very successful. They have grandkids.
00:35:49.380 None of them have any issues. And he said, I sent them all copies of Born Lucky because it talks
00:35:55.340 about how important values are and the things that you can control, how you can control values.
00:36:01.880 You can control your work ethic.
00:36:04.600 You can have self-esteem.
00:36:06.020 And these are all things that the only way for a child to learn is to learn it from their parents.
00:36:12.460 And that is that real power of fatherhood that I think we talk about certainly this week heading up to Father's Day.
00:36:19.960 But as Born Lucky shows, it is something that people talk about and need to feel every day of the week, every week of the year.
00:36:29.040 no it's it's it's constant contact it's the constant presence uh actually i think since
00:36:35.080 since reading your book uh when it first came out we've we've actually started doing the push-ups
00:36:39.560 with my with my boys to tell you the truth i i forgot to mention that to you but we've
00:36:44.020 we've added the push-ups on we're not doing 200 a day all right we're not i mean i of course
00:36:48.360 sure no problem here but uh but one time with a weighted vest yeah wow no not me you
00:36:56.640 you oh oh me with the way yeah no i'll do it let's go let's go yeah no funny enough is uh my
00:37:02.760 my younger one i i'm gonna say it my young i mean and then my kids listen to the show sometimes my
00:37:07.720 younger one's got better form i don't know what it is he's just he's got it down he's got it down
00:37:12.760 the older one i'm always like look at it look at your little brother look at aj what's you know
00:37:17.160 you know he's got he's got the flat back or it's not he's not doing like he's not doing up you know
00:37:22.420 back in the air, all that bending. Um, but it's, no, it is something where, and, and if, and by
00:37:28.640 the way, if they're not doing it right, the fist comes out and it's chest to the fist, let's go
00:37:32.900 chest to the fist. You're all the way down. And that, that another thing, and I don't, by the way,
00:37:37.640 and I'm not, I'm not yelling at them. I'm not, you know, screaming, my voice isn't up. It's just,
00:37:43.520 there is a standard and you have to meet the standard and you're not getting out of this
00:37:47.740 until the standard is met there's a reason for that that's so important it's not like a punishment
00:37:54.380 it's about understanding that standards are real right back one more segment leland bitter
00:37:59.900 the author of the best seller born lucky an incredible book about fatherhood this father's day
00:38:17.740 call this the jack basobic appreciation hour i can say confidently i believe i think josh
00:38:33.800 shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for jack basobic and that that is
00:38:37.660 I'll be honest.
00:38:45.140 All right, folks, Jack, we're so big back.
00:38:46.920 Live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:38:49.820 Very excited to have on author Leland Vitter.
00:38:52.900 New book is Born Lucky.
00:38:55.580 He's put this out.
00:38:56.500 It's all about how his father raised him after his own diagnosis with autism.
00:39:02.800 And Leland, you say that the book had it's it's been such a springboard because it's a way for people, even if they don't have a child who is special needs or is in any one of these categories or, you know, for fathers and mothers, too, by the way, I'm sure, you know, want to get into this.
00:39:20.780 it's teaching those values. It's coming. It's talking about fatherhood. We're looking at the
00:39:25.080 studies on this. I have to say, because I'm really seeing this now when I look out into
00:39:30.040 just my anecdotal personal experiences, when I look online, when I look in the news, when I see
00:39:35.360 books like yours hitting and seeing as the incredible success that they do, it kind of
00:39:40.680 feels like fatherhood is back in a really big way. Unquestionably. And that is a fabulous thing. And
00:39:47.680 And for so long, like when I was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism, my parents
00:39:53.520 were basically told, you got to meet me where I'm at and then leave me there.
00:39:58.740 And as you pointed out, Jack, my father met me where I was at and said, and here's where
00:40:02.860 we are going.
00:40:04.000 200 pushups a day, five days a week.
00:40:06.100 You know, he would take me out to lunch with his friends.
00:40:08.000 I didn't have any friends when I was seven, eight, nine years old, trying to teach me
00:40:11.020 the social and emotional fabric that we all have.
00:40:14.480 in Born Lucky or there, this little diner with milkshakes and hamburgers with my dad and I,
00:40:19.460 and I would be with somebody, one of his older friends, and I would just pepper them with
00:40:23.780 questions before we could even order hundreds of questions. And my dad would tap his watch
00:40:29.220 and he would tap his watch. And that was for me to be quiet. And then also to bookmark that moment
00:40:36.020 because later we would go back and role play. Okay. You know, when you were with Mr. McGillicuddy
00:40:41.500 and you interrupted him and I talking about our golf game
00:40:45.020 to ask Mr. McGillicuddy where he went to law school
00:40:47.480 and how much he charges per hour
00:40:48.940 and how he finds his clients.
00:40:50.560 What could you have asked him about his golf game?
00:40:53.040 And we would then role play that
00:40:54.500 because he had to teach me how to interact
00:40:57.440 in normal human behavior.
00:40:59.700 And Born Lucky, I think, is proof
00:41:01.680 of what a really engaged father can do.
00:41:05.960 And what's been so remarkable is since it's come out,
00:41:08.780 how many fathers and how many mothers I've heard from
00:41:11.480 of kids, not just with autism, but ADHD and anxiety and just the difficulties of growing
00:41:16.300 up and on and on, that this is a love story. It's a love story written by me for my father,
00:41:22.300 but it's a story of what the power of real parenting is. And Jack, you really honed in
00:41:28.640 on this just now in your question that for a long time, parents had basically been told
00:41:33.700 they're powerless, right? Listen to the experts. It's not really about the parent. It takes a
00:41:37.780 village, blah, blah, blah, blah. That was the opposite of my dad's philosophy. It was,
00:41:43.020 as he said, he said, I didn't know how this was going to turn out. And boy, there are so many
00:41:47.800 families out there right now who don't know how it's going to turn out with their kids,
00:41:50.740 even if their kids don't have any special needs. But it was, I know how it's going to turn out if
00:41:57.180 I don't try. And that was the dedication he showed. He left his job and he became my best friend,
00:42:03.820 coach therapist everything um in one and as we write born lucky there were a lot of nights he
00:42:09.860 was sitting in my my parents living room or his living room one o'clock in the morning crying on
00:42:15.180 the couch and it was my mom who was there uh to come find him and he said i just felt so alone
00:42:22.280 i felt like the world had turned against me and born lucky is proof now uh of what those parents
00:42:28.220 what every parent can do. You know, you're, you're, you're saying this and I'm, I'm, uh,
00:42:34.320 just, just reflecting back on that, that there's, there's a certain, there's a feeling you have as,
00:42:40.320 you know, and I, I, I know my wife, but I can't speak for, for mothers, but I know just as a dad
00:42:44.760 that, that feeling of watching your child succeed and watching them have that achievement.
00:42:53.260 And, you know, we, we just got done the, I've been talking about the show a little bit here,
00:42:57.160 you know here and there we got done you know little league season so baseball season just
00:43:01.300 kind of wrapped and you know seeing them you know make the playoffs and he you know and he gets a
00:43:07.980 triple and it's and you realize it's and that look on his face that look of sheer joy that something
00:43:14.680 that you've been working on batting practices and taking time off of work to go to the to the field
00:43:21.260 or whatever it is and hey i'm supposed to be on this conference call or whatever i said no we're
00:43:25.940 We're going to get the bucket of balls out and we're going to go hit him and we're going
00:43:29.600 to keep doing that again and again and again.
00:43:32.060 And then to see it pay off and see that joy on his face, there's nothing like it.
00:43:37.300 There's nothing like that in the whole world.
00:43:39.460 There's no product that you can buy.
00:43:41.920 There's no supplement you can take or medication that is going to give you that feeling, that
00:43:47.640 connection that when you look at each other, that we did it.
00:43:51.600 And for me, as you talk about this book, that reminds me of that.
00:43:55.780 It's a way of trying to put that feeling into words.
00:43:59.680 Hey, dad, we did it.
00:44:01.760 Well, you're nice to say that when we started writing Born Lucky, the publisher really wanted
00:44:08.660 it to be about autism and how to deal with autism and have checklists and ideas and takeaways
00:44:14.540 and almost like a workbook.
00:44:15.800 And I said, this isn't that.
00:44:17.220 This is just a love story.
00:44:18.800 This is a father-son love story about what a father can do.
00:44:23.600 and everybody's going to take something different from the book. But the overarching thing that so
00:44:30.140 many people have taken from Born Lucky is they're not alone. They're not alone not knowing what to
00:44:34.780 do. They're not alone having a hard time. And, you know, my parents told no one. They told no
00:44:40.140 therapists. They told no teachers. There was no special accommodations. We fought this battle
00:44:44.760 alone, often at night, as my dad would sit there in my living room and listen or in my bedroom and
00:44:50.760 listen to me cry and yell and take off this burden. And I think also the other part of the
00:44:57.620 Born Lucky story is what it means for the whole family. There were teachers at the high school
00:45:03.000 that I went to, that my sister later went to, who would tell her, I hope you don't turn out
00:45:07.800 like your brother. The kids called her the retarded kid sister. And that feeling of what
00:45:16.880 a father can do, the power of a father to take a terrible situation and turn it into
00:45:22.800 a family against the world, and this family together is going to fight the world and fight
00:45:28.600 the injustice, is something that is really powerful. And they took something that was a
00:45:33.980 terrible time and an awful time and turned it into a strength, a strength for me and also a
00:45:39.480 strength for my sister. And I love it too, because the father aspect, and by the way,
00:45:45.740 I don't mean to say this as a, this isn't a, a, a criticism.
00:45:50.320 It's just, it's just an observation.
00:45:52.720 Mothers want to protect the mothering instinct is to, to protect, to keep safe, to, uh, to
00:46:00.900 nurture, but to avoid risk, right? 1.00
00:46:03.860 That's, that's motherhood.
00:46:04.860 That's, and we need that.
00:46:05.800 Obviously men are built slightly different. 0.98
00:46:08.780 Dads are built slightly different.
00:46:10.520 we understand that the world is risky and that we have to prepare our sons for that risk because at
00:46:19.720 some point the nest isn't going to be here anymore mom and dad aren't going to be here anymore so
00:46:24.400 we've got to get them ready for meeting that world and it sounds like to me that was where your dad
00:46:31.720 came in was to say you know what it's harder but sometimes things are just harder and that doesn't
00:46:38.780 mean we're not going to do hard things. And I could, you know, protect him and keep him at home
00:46:46.280 and, you know, do all this and, you know, prepare him for a life of isolation. But that's not what
00:46:53.580 he did. He found a way to push through all of that and actually beat it and win. That's where
00:47:01.180 a dad comes in. That's the father difference. And again, not a criticism. It's just that's what
00:47:07.320 makes moms and dads different, that dads will be willing to push through no matter what the odds
00:47:12.400 are. Yeah. And look, an enormous sacrifice for my father, who very easily could have taken a
00:47:20.020 different road. And I think what's so remarkable about Father's Day is we sit there and we idolize
00:47:26.000 these men. Certainly as a young boy, I idolized my dad, still do, still my best friend. But
00:47:31.840 that that same man is so scared often and doesn't know what to do parenting is is they like to say
00:47:37.860 doesn't come with an instruction manual you leave the hospital I think you know you get more when
00:47:42.300 you adopt a puppy from the SPCA than you do when you take a kid home from the hospital I don't know
00:47:46.580 I said the same thing when I had my kids yeah I said the same thing oh Leland I'm sorry not to
00:47:52.840 put a pin in that because I'm just looking at the time which we are completely out of
00:47:56.980 Before you go, tell people where they can go to get the book.
00:47:59.760 Born Lucky on Amazon and anywhere else.
00:48:01.940 It'll be there before Father's Day.
00:48:04.300 Check it out, folks.
00:48:05.520 Born Lucky for the dads, for the moms, for anybody who wants to dig in.
00:48:09.200 You're going to love this book.
00:48:10.460 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
00:48:26.700 You