THE GREAT COWBOY - YANKEE ALLIANCE w⧸ MIKE BENZ
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In this special edition of Human Events, host Jack Posobiec is joined by Mike Benz to discuss the globalist, Anglo-American power structure that controls the internet and attempts to stifle freedom of speech online.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition, Human Events special, that
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we are doing regarding the power structures that govern America and really govern what
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we call the globalist American empire or the Anglo-American regime, the globalist regime.
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We can see the day-to-day, but what's driving the news?
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Who are the power players that are actually making the moves on the higher-level chessboard,
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on the higher plane, that we can only, from time to time, get a glimpse of?
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One man has made it his mission to expose these power players and specifically to expose their interest
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Because what's amazing about what most people will focus on is they'll say they're anti-censorship,
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but what Mike Benz does is explain why they are censoring you.
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And Mike, would you say that's a good description of explaining what you're doing?
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You're explaining why the censorship is happening.
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You know, when I first started on this crusade to try to preserve free speech on the internet
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six or seven years ago, I think I, like everybody else, thought of this as being a sort of purely
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You know, you look up and you see the ABL is promoting censorship or the SPLC or, you know,
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pink-haired, anti-gendered feminists with NYU degrees.
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And it's very easy to see that low level and be like, well, that's who's censoring us.
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But then the deeper you get into it and who's behind them and who's funding them and the
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organizations they're a part of, or who's making the censorship decision-making at the
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higher level, you start to see basically the shape of the machine you're truly up against.
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And, you know, this, what we'll be talking about today, I think, is about what that structure
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is, how it got installed in the first place, and really what can be done at this point to
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Well, and there's actually something that happened, and as we record this, you know,
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it's a couple of weeks ago now, but so I go on and I'm doing a hit with Alex Jones,
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who's just been brought back to the X platform with Elon Musk.
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We, Alex, Elon, and myself in a coterie of a murderous row of individuals, I would say,
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And then Alex and I were doing a hit a couple of days later, and we were talking about the
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need to pay attention, very close attention, to the Ukraine war conflict because of the
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And I said, look at the moves that NATO is making.
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They've just installed a, and the globalists are making, they've just installed a globalist
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That prime minister is now calling for mobilization of the Western nations against Russia militarily.
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He was the former president of the EU, the European Council.
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Now we see the new chancellor of Germany, Olaf Scholz, calling for emergency sessions and
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emerge, a state of emergency in Germany along these same lines, allowing for unlimited spending.
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And so Alex, and then of course, you know, Lloyd Austin and Joe Biden, they're calling for
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more and more belligerent actions towards Russia and the mobilization of NATO forces.
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So we put out a tweet that says it seems like NATO is mobilizing for war with Russia.
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We get fact-checked, community noted on X by, uh, by the community notes team.
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But then we noticed the citation that we're given is NATO.
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And when I peel back the layers of so many of these censorship organizations, these ministries
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of truth that are, that were found out there, Nina Yankovic, people like these, uh, the, uh,
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Suddenly we find all of these disturbing ties to NATO, to the neocons, the neolibs, this, this,
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this Trotskyist alliance that has somehow infiltrated our government.
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And, and, and I said, I got to ask Mike Benz about this.
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So to understand how NATO got into the censorship industry, it sort of helps to start to see
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how NATO got involved in the internet in the first place, and then went from being about
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So if you recall, the internet started as a military project.
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And its first use case was helping the military manage social science research data on the
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populations that it was managing overseas with our overseas empire, our globalist American
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empire, which we've had since 1898, when we took the Philippines, uh, and, and mostly
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Cuba from, from the Spanish should have kept Cuba.
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Um, but the, the internet was then privatized in 1991.
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And immediately it was, it was military terrain for the purpose of helping foreign dissident
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bloggers and, and news sources on, on the internet, be able to evade state controls over
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media in countries that NATO was trying to topple.
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So for example, when NATO got involved in Serbia and Yugoslavia in, uh, 1995 to 1999, one of the
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things the state department and the CIA and the national endowment for democracy we're
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doing, we're training Serbian political activists who are trying to get rid of Slobodan Milosevic
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to use the internet, to set up blogs and to set up web 1.0 sites to spread basically pro
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state department propaganda around overthrowing that country's government.
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And additionally bombed the, the Serbian media center because they specifically said that
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it was, it was, uh, putting out information that was in contrivance of NATO's war plans.
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So the military has understood the paramount importance of media, especially in color revolutions.
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So the military has understood the paramount importance of media, especially in color revolutions.
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There's, there's really two ways to overthrow a government and this is what, you know, the,
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the Anglo American empire has been doing, you know, the Lawrence of Arabia, for example,
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is about, you know, the British covert ops essentially to rally the people of a country
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At that point it was the Arabs and the Ottomans.
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So there's two ways to basically pull off a revolution.
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One of them is you go to the military of that country and you get a certain critical mass
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And so he, who has the guns essentially makes the rules, so to speak.
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And, uh, so you can have a military coup, but then, you know, starting with the Brits,
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but then really the, the, there was American innovation poured into it after world war two,
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there was a, there was a second strategy that was devised to be able to topple governance,
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which involved having it be a people powered rather than a, a military powered revolution.
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If enough people within the country took to the streets and destabilized it and the people
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from the trade unions took to the streets and the, and the criminals who were prosecuted
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by that country's legal system took to the streets and the, and the drug dealers and the,
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and the, the fringe minority groups who feel persecuted and the media personalities and the
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people who run the railroads and everybody shuts down the country essentially.
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And then January 6th, them, if, if it was what it was advertised, so to speak, the end
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stages of color revolution look remarkably like what we were told January 6th was.
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And so far as I would say, by the way, the most, um, probably the most, uh, recognizable
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color revolutions that, uh, that Americans, at least in the modern age would be familiar
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Well, that was the culmination of free speech on the internet in the eyes of the blob, the
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And it's, and everybody talks about how it was all driven by Twitter 1.0.
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And it really was the high watermark of, of the, of the, the test case of free speech
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as a military instrument in the, in the eyes of the military industrial complex, the state
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You had, you know, during the Arab spring, this is 2010 to 2012, one by one, all of the
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adversary governments, uh, that, that were hostile to the U S state department were toppled
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Tunisia, Egypt, several others, but they were all organized on Facebook and Twitter using
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hashtags and, and, and Facebook rallying of, of all.
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And they even try to spill this over into Iran at the same time, the green revolution.
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And in fact, uh, the state department's Jared Cohen, who worked in the policy planning staff,
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which is the interstitial link between the CIA and the state department.
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It's how we synchronize overt and covert diplomacy.
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Uh, you know, so Jared Cohen made a personal phone call in 2009, the year before the, the, uh,
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Twitter had wanted to do this, uh, this, this temporary shutdown for maintenance on the site
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that happened to coincide with the 48 hour lead up to the Iranian election.
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But Twitter was unaware when it announced its scheduled maintenance that this, the state
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department and the CIA were running an operation to have Iranian dissidents promote the alternative
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And so Jared Cohen from the state department made a personal call to Twitter to keep the
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Now, Jared Cohen would then go on to, uh, after he left the state department to join Google
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and specifically Google jigsaw, which created the first AI censorship super weapons that now
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allow tens of millions of tweets and Facebook posts and YouTube videos to be shut down instantly
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This is a technique that Jared Cohen's team developed at jigsaw.
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And he was actually the person who made that phone call to, uh, to facilitate, uh, uh, regime
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Just, uh, just to buffer your point there, but essentially what happened after, you know,
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everything was, was looking sky high for free speech on the internet from 1991 until 2012,
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And then a funny thing happened on the way to the coup in Ukraine in 2014 when the Maidan
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Then this was again, a U S U S U K NATO orchestrated coup.
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Victoria Nuland was handing out cookies and water bottles to the, to the right sector.
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Uh, uh, uh, throngs who January 6th, a democratically elected president Yanukovych out of office in
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Ukraine after getting $5 billion worth of collective funding from the state state department, USAID
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After that coup in February, March, 2014, there was a counter coup.
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Um, you know, much of it is alleged to be sort of Russia backstopped, but the Crimea
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annexation happened where the people who lived in Crimea voluntarily, uh, voted in a referendum
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And the Luhansk and Donetsk, the Eastern provinces there in Ukraine, uh, basically broke away.
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They declared themselves breakaway states, not subject to the sort of U S embassy run
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And when that happened, their NATO freaked out and said, Oh my God, these people are reading
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Oh my God, they are, they have their own independent media system.
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And that's why they didn't go along with the coup.
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We need the military to be much more forceful in its, in its control over media.
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So they started with these NATO centers of excellence and this NATO censorship infrastructure.
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NATO linked up with the Atlantic council, which has seven CIA directors currently on its board,
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seven former number one heads of the CIA are all on the board of the Atlantic council.
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Which is essentially a sister group of the national endowment for democracy, which is,
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Uh, the Atlantic council also has a, had a formal partnership with Burisma to funnel deal flow,
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essentially using the battering ram of NATO to coerce, uh, uh, you know, favorable ministry
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of foreign affair actions towards these Ukrainian gas companies, including the U S state department.
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And, and so you had NATO, uh, begin to say, you know what?
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But I think there was another, another, another angle that Burisma took in terms of currying
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There was some government official and they put their, put their son on his, can you remember
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on the board, someone, there was a name I'm, it escapes me.
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I apologize to the millions listening out there.
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In the biz to sometimes those names, the son, he was like the vice president or something.
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And, you know, not only was it, you know, uh, Hunter who, who shall not be named, but
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it was also Coper black who had spent 30 years in the CIA and, and received the state
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department's highest medal of distinction and served on Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.
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Uh, the daily beast described him as, uh, as Mitt Romney's Sherpa to the central intelligence
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So, uh, so, and then Hunter Biden himself served on the advisory board of the national democratic
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Institute, which is the DNC branch of the national endowment for democracy, which is, as I've
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So the intelligence, uh, fingerprints were all over the Ukraine operation and the natural
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gas, uh, pipeline story, seizing the gas pipelines from Russia and pay basically paying off Houston
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and London gas companies where gas prom used to make those profits.
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But essentially what happened is, is NATO said, wait a second, wait a second.
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We've always looked at the internet like free speech is a good thing because it's, the internet
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We've always been able to use this to create insurgencies, to overthrow governments.
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Jared Cohen himself, who I mentioned earlier described, uh, the internet as essentially a
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color revolution steroid injection that you could basically, you know, you could, you could,
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you could quickly and immediately do what used to take decades in terms of going running operations
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out of CIA station houses or embassies or consulates and manually meeting with every leader and having
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Instead of aggregating everybody under a common messaging rally, evading state control over media
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and just having it all organized publicly like that.
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But the issue was, well, I've got to throw out there.
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So the counter coup happens in Ukraine, but then there's another counter coup that happens
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in another country in 2016 that drives them absolutely insane.
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And that's when people, some of whom served in that same intelligence community, took those
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very same tactics and took those very same techniques and applied them to the United States
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People like myself, people like my friend, Douglas Mackey, uh, who has been charged and sentenced
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to seven months for the power of memes, because we took all of those tactics and applied them
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to a populist uprising in the United States, which culminated in the election of Donald
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So you had this NATO censorship infrastructure in central and Eastern Europe.
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We're the only ones who are supposed to be allowed to do that.
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You know, I mean, we've been playing games in German elections since, you know, since
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But but when when the Brexit referendum happened in June 2016, the NATO censorship apparatus moved
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And you had the UK foreign office and GCHQ and the British Ministry of Defense and MI6
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and this whole Richard Deerlove group that would then go on to basically create Russiagate
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Which is why Christopher Steele comes out of London.
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So it so it moved westward with Brexit to the UK.
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And then when five months later, Trump was elected, that was it.
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There was now a total U.S., U.K., Brussels consensus that we needed that the Internet now
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It started as a free speech model because free speech was good for us.
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Now free speech was backfiring because Brexit was an Internet phenomenon.
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Nigel Farage was only a household name because of his YouTube videos, making fun of, you know,
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Herman Van Rompuy and European Parliament videos.
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So you get Nigel Farage and then you get and you get with with the power of like people
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Then you get Trump with the power of people online.
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Like I said, Douglas Mackey, Raheem again, myself.
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And suddenly you're starting to see this younger generation apply these same things that we've
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learned and we've seen other people do to the Internet that say, hey, we could use these
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And it turns out that they're really, really effective.
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And on the Internet, because it was always W after W, so to speak, for the military industrial
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complex for from 1991 until 2014 through 16, there was no Operation Mockingbird style control
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apparatus to serve as a gatekeeper to contain narratives or high profile.
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There was no Operation Mockingbird style control apparatus to serve as a gatekeeper to contain
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In in the 2016 election, I'll give you a great example of this.
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In the 2016 election, if you went to YouTube, the number one news channel on all of YouTube
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So Alex Jones was considered like like whatever.
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We've got because they've already got the Mockingbird mainstream media.
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So they said, we don't have to worry about this stuff.
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Alex Jones had more on the on the day that he was assassinated in 2018.
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His channel had more views than CNN's on YouTube.
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One man, one independent media personality, you know, grew to be bigger than the mega behemoth
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broadcast company that George Bush personally put on airplanes to propagandize the Gulf War.
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So, you know, this is it at that point, gatekeepers were needed.
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You needed essentially a digital Mockingbird operation.
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And from 2017 to through, you know, basically the 2020 election, 2022, obviously it continues
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But you had NATO declare this new doctrine, which Jen Stoltenberg articulated as from tanks
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We need to no longer think about the you can find this video on YouTube where he's articulating
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this doctrine and all the NATO 2030 white papers about how we need to reorient NATO's capacity
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from being primarily focused on the military to being intensely focused on the media because
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This is before the 2022 military outbreak in Ukraine.
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At the time, all the military theoreticians and all the U.S.
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Army War College, everyone was saying, you know what?
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It's now all moved to hearts and minds control over who gets elected.
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That's what war is about now, because they were looking at things from the perspective of
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Crimea and eastern Ukraine and trying to penetrate so-called authoritarian countries in these
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And so you had you had billions of dollars pour into this.
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You had the you had the doctrinal shift, as I mentioned, from tanks to tweets, meaning
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we're no longer just focusing on primarily focusing on tanks.
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It was the Atlantic Council who who came up with what they called the forward defense blueprint.
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But they were the ones who came up with the idea to have the Department of Homeland Security
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Which, by the way, I'll throw out there the point of the reason that they need censorship
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is because whenever they try to prop up their own inorganic or artificial type of, you know,
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You get these really terrible like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter references that are just bad.
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And then you get these extremely cringe NATO backed online organizations like the NAFO fellas.
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They're so artificial and just just truly disgusting.
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And so when, you know, when when when they realize how these things call always fall flat
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on their face, they just turn to censorship because that's the only thing that that they
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have found that can really stop our side, my side from getting out.
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I mean, you ever see that that picture of the new Ireland, you know, Ministry of Truth czar,
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you know, the totally, you know, the guy that looks like he's straight out of the Goonies.
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You know, so I mean, that's like a guy who should be locked in the basement somewhere.
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Their level when it comes to, you know, psychological persuasion, they fixate on so hard.
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I when I first started being in these people's Zoom calls and create, you know, because a lot
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of this stuff they were doing in the open in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
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I was working on a book and a documentary about them.
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So I would spend my whole day just inside their own conversations and inside their own,
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And I would listen to these things and I'd go to one of their YouTube things and would
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And this this would have like Michael Hayden would be in there and Jen Stoltenberg would
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And, you know, the German minister of foreign affairs would be in there.
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You'd have all of these absolute heavyweights of what makes the world turn.
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And they would introduce the conference with we're using this hashtag and please like
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And we want that, you know, and it goes nowhere.
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It's like it's like I'm looking at this thing three weeks later.
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You know, my kid sister could make a video about pizza pie and get, you know, a hundred
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And so but that also compounds the terror from their perspective, which is their feeling
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of of utter helplessness unless they censor because they can't organically promote these
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Well, well, let me let me pause there because we're hitting about the halfway mark here.
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What makes them so desperate to want to do this?
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And you've talked about this before, the Yankee cowboy alliance that drives American foreign
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We've got about 20 minutes left to just really pick into what this is.
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Well, it's a fascinating concept that I sort of came across while trying to do research
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for the book I've been writing, which is this is a concept that came out of sort of left
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wing populists who were supporters of JFK and were bewildered at how how to try to piece
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together the political forces behind his assassination.
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This is sort of the the origins of this thing called the Yankee cowboy theory.
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So there was a concept coined by this guy, Carl Oglesby, and picked up by Peter Dale
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Scott and these other sort of 1960s, 1970s left wing researchers that that American power
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is basically divided into two competing factions, one called the Yankees and one called the Cowboys.
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Now, the Yankees are comprised of this northeast corridor set, establishment set that had existed
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It's basically the linkage between New York City and London.
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And it's essentially started out as being these a cluster of small of small powerful
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families in the northeast that we that we today sort of think of as being sort of the coast,
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We now sort of think of California, for example, as sort of being a Yankee faction.
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It was not at the time in the 1960s and 70s, because at the time, California was a red state.
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And the military industrial complex was was before it moved to Arlington in the 80s with
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So you had this northeast corridor Yankee power faction, which was which was essentially banking
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And then you had a second power structure, which was mostly at the which started out as the
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And and the southern rim basically stretching from from the south down through Florida into
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And then at the time, it was conceived of as stretching into California, although now I
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think it's easier to understand California as being a firmly Yankee thing.
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But essentially, the the Cowboys power base was in the military and the energy sphere and
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in certain other industrial sectors like like agriculture.
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And you you essentially had money as the power from the from the Yankees and muscle is the power
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from the Cowboys. And and these these are sort of early theoreticians of this of this
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concept, you know, talked about how, you know, in the in the early days of our country, you
00:28:33.740
had this split between the the north and the south, you know, in the Civil War, you had you
00:28:39.420
had, you know, the the Yankee, you know, Abe Lincoln and the sort of cowboy Ulysses S.
00:28:45.600
Grant factions and how the Yankees sort of and they're the agrarians, right?
00:28:49.120
The cotton, the plantation, the plantation, you know, just just dynasties down there.
00:28:55.220
Exactly. Exactly. And so the cowboy faction, exactly. It started out as being
00:29:00.020
agriculture and it had some of a military touchpoint insofar as when we declared the
00:29:06.820
Monroe Doctrine in 1823, the U.S. effectively took over South America and those and big
00:29:13.560
sugar was essentially the predecessor to big oil. And big tech is now sort of the successor
00:29:18.400
to big oil. But, you know, our empire went from being sort of big sugar, big ag to big
00:29:24.500
oil, big gas to big tech. That's kind of been the succession of our of our power
00:29:30.480
projection in many respects. And much of that big ag was was it was a cowboy thing, if you
00:29:37.800
will, because you had these agricultural companies who effectively took over South
00:29:43.560
America. The concept of a banana republic that we that we think of as a dysfunctional third
00:29:48.400
world, you know, countries run down way of running a government is actually actually comes
00:29:53.920
from the the concept of United Fruits banana territory. United Fruit was a U.S. company that
00:30:00.640
was backed by our Department of War before it was changed its name to the Department of Defense
00:30:05.420
and the State Department. We installed essentially United Fruit to run the the the governments of
00:30:11.040
countries like Guatemala and other Latin American regions. But essentially during, you know,
00:30:16.700
the left, it was the left that wrote all of this and everything you're citing is chapter
00:30:21.080
and verse from the old left. And they used to be the ones who talk about it. Now we come
00:30:25.940
in and apply this stuff to current affairs and we get called conspiracy kooks and nuts and
00:30:30.000
fringe with the aluminum foe. It's like, wait, wait, this was your book. These are I'm sure
00:30:34.200
you're what you're citing is all like New Republic stuff. And, you know, from outlets that
00:30:39.060
are no fan of conservatives. And I'm hedging my words here because I don't want to get called
00:30:44.060
the leftists. I mean, but the fact is, yeah, like it gets actually gets worse because, you
00:30:48.380
know, so the theory sort of posits that, you know, the Yankees won that won the Civil War
00:30:52.740
and the Cowboys sort of played this junior position role to our Yankee empire. But then with World
00:30:59.560
War Two and then there was this huge infusion into the military industrial complex. And that
00:31:06.800
complex was concentrated with production facilities in California and in Texas and Mill and our
00:31:13.960
and our military projection, all the bases we have in Florida. So you had these Southern
00:31:18.320
Rim entities which went from being sort of primarily agriculture to having a tremendous energy and
00:31:26.240
military capacity that that now rivaled what was happening in the Northeast. Because one of the
00:31:31.680
reasons the North won the Civil War was because that was where the factories were to make the
00:31:36.000
cannonballs. Right. You know, they had they had production capacity. And rail. But when the right,
00:31:40.880
right. But so they had they had the higher tech. They had the military. They had this production
00:31:45.980
economy. But when when the cowboy territories begun to get this big production capacity through the
00:31:51.700
military sphere and through energy, because all of our energy is basically in that Southern
00:31:56.200
Rim, all of our oil and gas isn't is, you know, stretching from the. So how does this play
00:32:01.920
into, you know, you mentioned the banana republics? So how does this play into our power projection now?
00:32:09.600
Because the cowboy apparatus from from you can also sort of think of the Yankees as being more like
00:32:16.360
Democrats and the Cowboys is sort of loosely representing up until very recently, the Republicans.
00:32:22.800
And we developed this Yankee cowboy alliance, developed the ability to overthrow governments.
00:32:51.360
The cowboy faction. You know, we think of the Cold War from 1940 up until 1991 as being about,
00:33:00.580
you know, a war on communism around around the globe and and U.S. CIA and State Department and DOD
00:33:09.580
and military capacities to basically overthrow governments that were communist to bring them
00:33:14.200
into the American empire. And we developed playbooks to do this. And these were these were networks
00:33:20.460
based in sort of cowboy muscle and Yankee money to do it. And these networks sort of went back and
00:33:28.500
forth. You know, there was, you know, the takedown of JFK was said to be sort of a cowboy coup against
00:33:34.180
the Yankees, which happens in Texas. Right, exactly. In Dallas. And then the Nixon takedown was said to be
00:33:41.240
sort of the revenge of the Yankees seizing power back from Nixon. And then you had the turnover back to the
00:33:47.420
Cowboys with Reagan and then the turnover back to the Yankees with with Clinton and the turn of like
00:33:52.700
Game of Thrones and the houses are just sort of sharing who, you know, switching out. But it's
00:33:56.640
always the high lords. And then this this brings you this, of course, brings you to Trump, who doesn't
00:34:02.280
have the backing of either of these factions. And in fact, politically takes down the Clintons who have
00:34:08.480
the backing of the Northeast faction and then the Bushes who are the backing of the Texas faction,
00:34:12.960
the Cowboys. And and suddenly he becomes this president who doesn't have a mafia, if you will,
00:34:20.160
in government at that power level. And when he looks at foreign policy and foreign power projection,
00:34:26.680
he says, what the heck are we doing in Afghanistan? We're not getting anything out of there. There's no
00:34:31.520
minerals. Why do we go Iraq to Iraq and not take the oil? Because he's not operating through these
00:34:36.740
power structures that you're talking about. So bringing people into the financial system or which
00:34:42.360
which, by the way, is a direct threat, faces a direct threat from BRICS. This is why Russia has
00:34:48.320
been able to successfully withstand the sanctions because they built a parallel economy from the
00:34:53.600
from the Yankees and the same way that they don't need the Cowboys because they've got their own oil.
00:34:58.040
So they are self-sufficient. And so in order to make countries dependent on your power structure,
00:35:03.880
you expand your empire by expanding your influence. But Trump isn't thinking about expanding financial
00:35:09.220
and energy empires. He just wants to be a good president. And so for the first time in years,
00:35:13.280
we have a president who's not listening to either of these factions. This, of course, is in turn why
00:35:17.980
they hate him and also why they seek to drive him from office, which culminates in, as we said,
00:35:23.920
a essentially a soft color revolution which occurs domestically in the United States in 2020.
00:35:29.000
That's exactly right. You had these two power factions, the Yankees and Cowboys,
00:35:34.220
which had been at war with each other since, you know, since the Civil War. And in this, you know,
00:35:40.360
constantly, you know, trying to coup each other, constantly trying to cooperate where they can
00:35:45.420
make money together where they can, but always trying to jockey for who's number one or number two.
00:35:49.960
And then suddenly in comes this internet powered, you know, meme magician who just sandblasts both of
00:35:57.360
them out of basically popular acceptance and out of political power. And so now instead of jockeying
00:36:04.640
for number one and two, they're both would be irrelevant effectively if you had a president who
00:36:12.580
was focused on domestic priorities instead of foreign policy, who was focused on the American
00:36:16.780
homeland instead of the American empire. So what happened in 2016 is you basically had this
00:36:22.140
detente declared between the Yankee Cowboy War and it became the Yankee Cowboy Alliance,
00:36:27.980
the Yankee Cowboy Alliance against Trump, against populism. You know, it wasn't just Trump also,
00:36:33.980
you know, as, as Trump rode to power, you know, he also rode it on the heels of Brexit and all over
00:36:40.100
the EU at the time, NATO was terrified that the EU was going to fall apart because Brexit was going
00:36:44.800
to happen in France, it'll exit in Italy, Grexit in Germany, Spexit in Spain. So, so the EU is going to
00:36:50.800
come undone. So NATO was going to come undone. There'd be no way to enforce IMF debt. The world,
00:36:55.800
the rules-based international order would all collapse. Which by the way, as a great, as a
00:36:59.140
great point to bolster what you just said there, when Zelensky just came to the United States,
00:37:03.380
he met with three, he met with three major power functions. So he met with the United States
00:37:08.300
political leaders, right? He met with the head of the house, the head of the Senate and the president.
00:37:12.640
He met with the military leaders. He went and gave a speech at the NDU, the National Defense
00:37:16.860
University. And the way he met with a third entity, the World Bank. It's like, it's right
00:37:23.580
there, folks, right, right in front of your face. It's as, as, as Steve Bannon would say,
00:37:28.260
it's not the deep state because it's in your face. So the goal is to make these countries dependent
00:37:35.520
on your power structure, and then you get more power. It's as simple as that. And so because you
00:37:42.040
have these entities out there that want to break out of that power structure or don't want to go
00:37:46.780
along with this, um, pushing for a rise of a multipolar world, pushing for the rise of bricks,
00:37:52.440
pushing for a parallel economy, or by the way, countries like India that are happy to work with
00:37:57.740
you, but want to maintain their own national sovereignty. They would prefer to be nation
00:38:03.860
states, uh, like Hungary, like Poland, although the globalists are getting their hooks back into Poland
00:38:09.080
again, because it's become such a threat to them. Uh, this is why the rise of nation states has
00:38:14.020
always, as, as always leveled, an incredible threat to this, uh, something with Trump, by the way,
00:38:20.440
and Ben's, you know, I'll put you on the spot a little bit because I've never really said this
00:38:23.320
publicly, but this is one of the reasons that when people go to Trump, they say, well, what are your
00:38:27.320
power bases? And, you know, cause he doesn't have the Yankees or the Cowboys. So he's going to,
00:38:32.700
you find a small business, you find a lot of small to medium-sized industry across the,
00:38:39.000
the Midwest, which still exists, even though it's being choked out. Um, honestly, you find a lot of,
00:38:43.980
uh, Vegas, you find casinos, um, Steve Wynn, Sheldon Adelson, when he was around, um, then you also,
00:38:50.160
of course, like people like Dana White. And so it's sort of this hodgepodge of other moneyed assets
00:38:56.100
throughout the United States, but not really anyone who's directly related to either of those power
00:39:01.120
structures. No, that's exactly right. I mean, it's, he's basically, you know, it's almost now
00:39:06.860
the, the Yankees, the Cowboys and the pirates, you know what I mean? Trump is basically trying to
00:39:11.120
put together a little, a little pirate ship with a motley crew of, you know, of, you know, outcasts.
00:39:16.980
We are extremely motley. Right. But, you know, hopefully, I mean, it's, it's that scene in a,
00:39:22.840
it's that scene in the Patriot where, um, where Gibson's down there in the, uh, in the South Carolina,
00:39:27.860
they're like in the swamp tavern and they're recruiting the, you know, they're recruiting
00:39:31.660
the rebels. Uh, and his son is like, it's, it's Heath Ledger and he's like, father, these,
00:39:36.220
these are the kind of men we want to be working with. And it says, son, these are exactly the
00:39:40.300
kind of men we want to be working with. No, exactly. Exactly. No. And it is, it is, you know,
00:39:46.400
this is the sort of thing though, what, what you're taking on is, is so vast that, and you're
00:39:53.260
starting from, from scratch that, you know, it's, it's going to be a long, long, I mean,
00:39:59.140
this is something that's going to take decades to have any sort of consolidated, um, institutional
00:40:05.040
power wrapped around. I mean, this, the, the Yankee cowboy stuff goes back centuries. You know,
00:40:10.560
there's every single career in Washington, every single person who's in the civil service or the
00:40:17.020
foreign service is either in the Yankee or the cowboy faction, whether they know it or not,
00:40:22.940
by the way. Right. Right. Now, what's been very interesting actually is, is to watch as some of
00:40:29.500
these dynamics have evolved, because I actually think over the past several years, a lot of people
00:40:34.460
who started out as being, you know, in the cowboy camp have actually moved over into that pirate camp
00:40:41.080
more. You're seeing this in Ukraine, for example, you know, this is Ukraine is, is probably the biggest
00:40:46.060
issue that divides the cowboys from the pirates, if you will, in the sense that there is this growing
00:40:52.800
caucus. Um, you know, Ukraine funding started as being basically unanimous from, from the GOP. And
00:40:59.300
then it's more and more, you see people saying, Hey, we need to focus on the homeland, not the empire.
00:41:05.500
There's been, you know, I think it's up to almost 90 votes now in the, in the U S, including even the
00:41:11.400
speaker who I'm not even opining on whether he's been good or bad so far, but he has now at least
00:41:16.360
begun to say, Hey, you know what? We're going to, we need to put conditions on this. Um, there is that
00:41:21.040
fracturing happening now. And that's why they're so frantic to prop up someone like Nikki Haley,
00:41:25.720
you know, a true, you know, captured cowboy, if there ever was one cowgirl. And, um, and you know,
00:41:33.400
that's why you have Jamie diamond and, uh, and Larry think from black rock because they want the
00:41:39.800
discussion to be between right. Yes, exactly. It's, it's, it's, they want the discussion to be
00:41:46.800
either get a Yankee or cowboy. They don't want you to be able to have this third option, which by the
00:41:51.300
way, and Richard Barris said, and it went viral and he took a lot of slings and arrows for it, uh,
00:41:56.540
on, on this show just a couple of weeks ago, he said, if Nikki Haley is installed as the vice
00:42:01.740
president to Trump, those, which is the current play, then that gives them the perfect reason
00:42:06.420
to take Trump out, whether they JFK him or otherwise, because then Nikki Haley comes president
00:42:13.600
the same way, uh, JFK or excuse me, the same way LBJ then ascended to the presidency. He was their guy.
00:42:20.380
She's their girl. Yeah, no, that's, that's exactly right. I mean, I would, uh, you're putting,
00:42:26.940
I hate it, but you know, and, uh, I, interestingly, actually, I should note that Jared Cohen, the CIA
00:42:35.440
state department architect of the digital color revolution blueprint, the guy who, you know,
00:42:56.940
You know, and, uh, I, interestingly, actually, I should note that Jared Cohen, the CIA state
00:43:08.120
department architect of the digital color revolution blueprint, the guy who, you know, made the personal
00:43:13.620
call to Twitter to keep Twitter up so that they could rig the Iranian elections and who personally
00:43:19.900
oversaw the construction of the AI censorship, death stars actually wrote a book completely divorced from
00:43:26.300
his other work, uh, when Trump took office in, it was about what happens when presidents die in
00:43:31.740
office and, and, uh, what the succession is the CIA guy who wrote, just, you know, in his spare time
00:43:37.800
for no reason whatsoever decides to spend six months of his life writing a book on what happens when
00:43:44.440
presidents die in office, definitely not anything remotely related to his other work. Of course,
00:43:50.540
just, you know, nothing, just woke up like this, wanted to, so, you know, I, I totally agree with
00:43:56.560
that analysis. Um, and, and, you know, and there, look, there's a long history of vice presidents
00:44:01.600
essentially running a presidency. You can make the argument in Cheney. I was, I was going to say Bush
00:44:07.260
and Reagan, certainly in a lot of elements of foreign policy. Yeah. I mean, you can make the
00:44:13.060
argument, you know, Dick Cheney was, was Darth Cheney, you know, to the, to the Democrats. So SNL,
00:44:18.580
you know, basically declared him to be the president during the, during the Bush one years,
00:44:22.920
uh, probably just because, you know, uh, W was just too incompetent. Which by the way,
00:44:27.540
speaking of SNL during, during those years, there's actually an episode of SNL. I want to say
00:44:32.380
it's from 2008 where they actually make fun of George Soros for his ability of manipulating currency
00:44:40.240
in order to destabilize governments and to put them into debt. And I'm watching this thing going
00:44:46.320
like, is some like pinch me, is some, somebody playing a trick on me that for, there was this
00:44:51.340
one brief moment, you know, kind of right before all the political tide shifted where they actually
00:44:58.460
admitted the truth. And, and I'm sure that all of the people who, you know, who were behind that
00:45:03.700
sketch have been, uh, totally disappeared at this point that, that it's like, it's like, yes,
00:45:09.140
I am George Soros. Yes. We are taking over the country. We are using financial power.
00:45:13.620
Like, so yes, I, in this, by the way, obviously in this analysis, George Soros is one of the chiefs
00:45:20.280
of the Yankee tribe. Exactly. Exactly. He's the, he's the total embodiment of it. And you know,
00:45:26.940
it's, it's good thing that's in New York and not Arkansas because I, that's, that sketch could not
00:45:33.480
be run today, but you know, on the, you know, on this sort of, you know, what do you do if you
00:45:38.740
don't have a mafia question, you know, the, I try to remind people that the GOP power, what made
00:45:45.980
the Cowboys able to compete with the Yankees after the Yankees won the civil war was this department
00:45:54.000
of dirty tricks that the Republicans had that the Democrats actually really didn't, you know, this,
00:45:59.980
this anti-communist war fighting capacity that came out of the Republican wing that came out of
00:46:08.400
oil intelligence that came out of the Houston energy mafia, this, this cowboy wing is, was,
00:46:15.220
was the power base that allowed the Cowboys to sort of, you know, hold their own with the Yankees.
00:46:22.400
And the thing that Trump ran on is sort of antithetical to the financial interests of
00:46:29.580
those Cowboys. And so he doesn't have the muscle to fight back when the justice department comes
00:46:35.500
after him. He's gotten nobody at the CIA who's going to play dirty tricks back on them. He's got
00:46:40.920
nobody at the justice department who's going to play dirty tricks back on them. So, you know,
00:46:44.640
it's like being in a thumbie war fight where somebody else gets to do the, uh, you know, the,
00:46:48.820
the, the pointer fingers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, that there's no way, the only way to stop
00:46:55.340
that is when those people fear that you're going to do it back to them. I mean, this is the way the
00:47:00.240
nuclear arms race essentially ended. It wasn't because, right. It was because other people started
00:47:05.340
making nuclear bombs and, uh, and it was like, okay, you know what, actually maybe, maybe we should
00:47:11.120
stop this because this could actually backfire because they might do it to us. And so that's sort of
00:47:17.100
what kept the equilibrium and Trump not, this is one of the issues of, you know, sort of what do you
00:47:25.100
actually do in this situation? Because Trump didn't actually make a blood sacrifice offer on policy to
00:47:32.820
the cowboy faction of the blob. You know, they were, they were concerned about the oil and gas
00:47:39.100
interests in, uh, in the Caspian sea and in Eastern Europe. They were concerned about cutbacks to these
00:47:46.020
democracy programs. You know, they were concerned about what would happen to the stocks of, of, you know,
00:47:51.140
Exxon and, and Chevron and Halliburton. If Ukraine was, you know, was essentially threatened by Russia
00:47:59.120
and then all of the, all these $10 billion agreements that were inked between Houston companies and the
00:48:04.920
Ukrainian government, it, what would happen to those if you didn't have, you know, a CIA, State Department,
00:48:10.480
Pentagon battering ram that the Biden administration, you know, what was one to continue from the Obama
00:48:17.220
government. Cause if you remember, we were just talking about vice presidents essentially running
00:48:20.560
the presidency. Well, Joe Biden ran the, the Obama administration's Ukraine policy. He was,
00:48:27.480
you know, the foreign, the council on foreign relations called Joe Biden, uh, Mr. Foreign Policy,
00:48:32.900
you know, back in the, in the 1970s and eighties, he had been on the Senate foreign relations committee for
00:48:38.900
over 40 years, including either chairman or ranking member for 10 of those. So he, the, the, the triple
00:48:45.520
partition plan of, for Iraq was written by Tony Blinken when he was a Senate staffer for Joe Biden.
00:48:51.160
Benz, we, we are just about out of time here. I'm looking at the clock. It's only about a minute
00:48:55.320
and a half left. Um, please tell our listeners that you're writing a book about this. Please tell us
00:49:01.380
this book is coming out. It's going to come out in a hundred years, but it's, uh, it's going to be a
00:49:06.120
banger. Uh, I promise you that Mike, where can people go to follow you, to follow your work and
00:49:11.980
to support everything you do? Sure. You can find me on X at Mike, Ben cyber, all one word at Mike
00:49:17.920
Ben cyber. And my foundation is foundation for freedom online. We are trying to restore the
00:49:22.340
golden age of the internet and we got a ton of momentum. Thanks Jack. And, uh, to human events
00:49:27.360
and, and you guys are doing an amazing job and really the tip of the spear.
00:49:30.240
And by the way, huge W's from Elon Musk, from Alex Jones and all that would not have happened
00:49:37.380
if not for the efforts of Mike Benz cyber. So you need to be following this guy. You need to
00:49:44.280
be supporting him. And folks, look, I know sometimes with what we're outlining, it feels
00:49:49.260
like the, all the power of hell is turned upon us, but you know what they say? They say when
00:49:55.880
you're going through hell, keep going. And that's what Mike Benz is going to do. That's
00:50:01.900
what Jack Posobiec is going to do. And that's what human events is going to do. Ladies and
00:50:06.200
gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.