Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Historic Confirmation Hearings of Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr.

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.540 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.880 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.320 Christ is king.

00:00:52.680 Well, you've probably discerned by now it's not Jack Posobiec.

00:00:55.680 It's Natalie G. Winters of The War Room filling in for the next hour.

00:00:59.260 But don't go anywhere.

00:01:00.400 We're, of course, going to be dipping in and out of the hearings going on right now.

00:01:03.920 We have some people, boots on the ground, providing us live coverage.

00:01:07.220 But you're probably wondering where the one and only Jack Posobiec is.

00:01:10.760 So I'm going to do something that we're not used to doing here, I guess, in The War Room or Human Events Daily.

00:01:16.180 And that's reading something verbatim.

00:01:17.660 But this is so awesome for Jack for this show.

00:01:20.180 I want to read it straight from the press.

00:01:22.340 Jack Posobiec is on assignment with Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem in Vermont to be with the family of the Border Patrol agent who was tragically killed on January 20th.

00:01:33.020 POSA will also attend a crucial briefing on the northern border operations happening shortly.

00:01:38.740 Hence why, like I said, you probably picked up on it by now, Natalie Winters sitting here filling in for none other than Jack Posobiec. 0.79

00:01:45.200 But don't worry, you're still going to get your brother's Posobiec fix because we actually have the one and only Kevin Posobiec joining us down the line, I believe, outside of the Hart Senate Office Building,

00:01:55.960 which is where the Kash Patel hearing you just saw a little bit of live footage from.

00:02:00.080 And I'm sure you've already seen the clips coming out today.

00:02:02.580 Coming in, I believe, like I said, from the Hart Senate Office Building is Kevin Posobiec, who's been there in person watching it.

00:02:08.380 Kevin, if you could put us in the room for our viewers who aren't fortunate enough to be there,

00:02:12.540 what is the energy like in terms of the crowd?

00:02:15.000 And more importantly, how do you think the hearing has been going so far?

00:02:23.460 Hey, Natalie, nice to see you up there again.

00:02:25.540 Thanks for stepping up.

00:02:26.920 Yeah, we're down here at the Hart Building to room 216 for Cash's confirmation hearing.

00:02:33.140 It was a blast.

00:02:34.980 And they're still going on, actually.

00:02:36.460 But so many great things coming out of there.

00:02:38.880 And I'm hearing Tulsi and RFK also had pretty successful meetings as well.

00:02:45.460 And there was one of the things I wanted to point out with Cash, especially so many good quotes he was saying,

00:02:51.300 was one was like, we want to have just parks to play in again and not needles to walk on.

00:02:56.120 Everybody was trying to berate him, all the Democrat senators, just trying to get him on this and that.

00:03:02.620 And he just wants to bring back law and order, really.

00:03:05.200 Like, that's it.

00:03:06.680 That's it.

00:03:07.180 He just wants to uphold the Constitution and go after the bad guys.

00:03:12.020 And like he kept saying, like, just keeping it simple and getting the D.C. police,

00:03:18.820 especially the Capitol Police and all law enforcement, I mean, the premier service of the whole world to be the FBI.

00:03:25.680 Only 40 percent of Americans have faith and trust in the FBI right now.

00:03:30.280 And Cash is going to swear in to his oath to restore that, to restore that for everybody.

00:03:37.340 And he's been on there since 930 this morning testifying to that.

00:03:42.900 And it's amazing to see.

00:03:43.940 I mean, all that.

00:03:45.320 Another one I was happy to see was Josh Hawley came out in force just asking, hey, are you going to continue to investigate Catholics for their extremist views here? 0.77

00:04:00.160 Or are we going to go after, like, real terrorists and knock in their doors and the drug cartels and stop allowing all the fentanyl to come over the border?

00:04:10.820 Like, what what charges have we seen any Catholics do, let alone any any any any also heralded religious freedom?

00:04:17.400 I'm just curious, we've got about a minute and a half before we've got a cut to break.

00:04:20.820 Obviously, we've heard time and time again all the sort of go to cliche attacks that they used against Cash Patel.

00:04:26.480 Were there any sort of novel assertions, obviously absurd and false and smear campaigns?

00:04:31.800 But were there any new attacks that they sort of unveiled today, exclusively saving them for the hearings today?

00:04:37.500 Or was it just more same old, same old?

00:04:43.340 All right. Thanks, Natalie. Yeah, that's great.

00:04:45.500 You know, it's incredible to see Cash up there.

00:04:50.420 He was saying every time a senator came out that every seven minutes in this country, there's statistically what did he say?

00:04:59.760 Two, two, two overdoses, one murder and three rapes every seven minutes.

00:05:06.560 So what do we you know, what are we doing with all this all this, you know, belittling him, asking him if he's, you know,

00:05:15.240 listen, honestly, there was a lot of shout out to the war room.

00:05:18.260 Really, they kept they kept talking about the national anthem.

00:05:21.160 So, I mean, we'll take it. We'll take the take the free press.

00:05:24.460 And especially because he was, you know, we donated all the money to charity towards the families of injustice.

00:05:31.780 And, you know, he's already starting. He's already starting day one here.

00:05:36.200 It's pretty great to see. It's great to be down here.

00:05:38.300 Yeah, I'd love to audit all the senators who are calling for such fine tuned audits of Cash Patel.

00:05:44.260 Maybe we'll get those.

00:05:45.660 Kevin, I think we're going to jump back to the hearing.

00:05:47.440 It seems like some explosive stuff is probably already going down.

00:05:50.540 In the meantime, though, thank you so much for covering these hearings live.

00:05:53.780 If people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis of this and so much more.

00:05:57.180 Where can they go to do that?

00:05:58.220 It looks like we're just going to go to Cash. Let's go back to Cash.

00:06:08.680 Leadership that have politicized the law enforcement mission.

00:06:12.240 And we have spent I have spent a career removing politics from law enforcement.

00:06:16.880 And that's what the National Sheriff's Association is all about.

00:06:19.860 And I believe that's why they endorsed me as a nominee for the first time ever.

00:06:23.900 So that's why they like you. That's why they support you.

00:06:26.280 That's why they've chosen to come in to come out fully in support of your nomination, of getting you confirmed.

00:06:35.300 Because you share that view, a view that has been expressed by nearly every member of this committee today, I would add.

00:06:41.780 And this group, a very large group of law enforcement officials from throughout the United States of America,

00:06:47.140 has come in in support of you because of that.

00:06:49.440 As they do that, they express confidence in you specifically and in your ability in particular

00:06:54.560 to bring back, quote, transparency, integrity, collaboration and commitment to excellence within the FBI.

00:07:03.840 Tell me what you'll do in order to do that and how you'll commit to work with other law enforcement,

00:07:10.880 both within the FBI, elsewhere within the federal government,

00:07:13.800 and with state and local law enforcement officials to bring that back.

00:07:18.040 Senator, the only way to truly remove weaponization and politicization from law enforcement

00:07:23.860 is to follow the Constitution.

00:07:27.920 And if you look at the FBI's website and their mission statement and their core values,

00:07:32.280 each has eight.

00:07:33.120 And the eighth and last core value of the mission statement on the FBI's website right now is

00:07:38.520 fighting violent crime.

00:07:40.040 That needs to be number one.

00:07:41.960 The eighth core value out of all core values on the FBI's website right now

00:07:46.380 is rigorous obedience to the Constitution.

00:07:49.820 That needs to be number one.

00:07:52.120 Reorienting these policies with an effective leadership in place to follow the law

00:07:57.360 will allow us to achieve a singular standard of constitutional law enforcement.

00:08:03.340 And that is the only way you remove the weaponization from politics and, excuse me,

00:08:07.100 from law enforcement.

00:08:07.980 And that's what the sheriffs are talking about.

00:08:09.640 And that's what cops are talking about.

00:08:11.100 If men and women were angels, we wouldn't need government.

00:08:13.500 If we had angels to govern us, we wouldn't need a Constitution.

00:08:16.360 We're not angels.

00:08:17.080 We don't have access to them.

00:08:18.320 So we got to follow the rules.

00:08:19.480 And that's your top job.

00:08:20.500 I appreciate your support for the Constitution.

00:08:22.580 Senator Whitehouse.

00:08:23.620 Mr. Patel, you supposedly know something about grand juries.

00:08:29.020 I just went to the DOJ website to get language.

00:08:33.360 I'm quoting it.

00:08:34.420 Federal rule of criminal procedure 6E prohibits most persons present during the proceedings

00:08:41.340 from disclosing what transpired inside the grand jury room.

00:08:46.820 However, the proscription does not apply to witnesses.

00:08:51.520 Do you now, as a grand jury witness, authorize this committee access to a transcript of your

00:09:00.820 own testimony?

00:09:03.260 Senator, I authorize this committee to get whatever is appropriate and lawful, as I've

00:09:08.880 said before.

00:09:09.720 Specifically including the transcript of your grand jury testimony, which you have the authority

00:09:15.740 to authorize us to obtain.

00:09:17.720 Well, I don't know if I singularly have that authority.

00:09:19.780 I don't think that's how grand jury testimony works.

00:09:21.920 The Department of Justice.

00:09:22.960 You do because you are the witness.

00:09:24.680 You can do that.

00:09:25.560 There's also a court order on that case, sir.

00:09:28.000 Separately, you can get grand jury testimony by court order.

00:09:32.760 The witnesses can always reveal their grand jury testimony.

00:09:37.240 Do you authorize us to get access to your testimony?

00:09:40.680 I authorize this committee to lawfully obtain any records that they are appropriately allowed

00:09:45.480 to get.

00:09:45.920 And we are only, you're speaking in circles now, because we're only lawfully authorized

00:09:52.320 to get that with your permission as the witness.

00:09:55.720 Do you give us that permission?

00:09:57.020 Senator, I'm not an expert on this constitutional standard.

00:09:59.840 And so I can't commit to something that I don't know.

00:10:02.000 It's like super simple.

00:10:03.600 Grand jury rule 6E doesn't apply to witnesses.

00:10:06.160 This is not hard.

00:10:07.360 You are a witness.

00:10:08.220 That is a simple fact.

00:10:09.380 You can authorize us to see it.

00:10:11.020 As a prosecutor, a grand jury witnesses were not allowed to share what they were testifying

00:10:15.740 to.

00:10:16.120 And when I was commissioned for the judges are allowed to speak about what they were

00:10:21.180 told in the about what they said in the grand jury, unless they're under a specific

00:10:26.300 court order.

00:10:27.060 Are you under a specific court order not to reveal your testimony in the grand jury?

00:10:30.980 Senator, I can't go right now.

00:10:32.720 I can't go into court orders granted by the D.C.

00:10:35.200 district chief judge.

00:10:36.340 If they apply to you, of course you can.

00:10:40.060 You want me to violate a court order?

00:10:42.780 You're saying that there's a secret court order in which you can't tell whether you're

00:10:46.560 subject to a court order or not?

00:10:48.140 I'm telling you that if you find the applicable court order and it permits this request.

00:10:53.280 I don't need a court order if you give authorization.

00:10:57.420 I'm not the one that has the authority to do that.

00:10:59.780 Yes, you are.

00:11:00.420 As a witness, you're just wrong on that.

00:11:02.000 Second, the FBI has records related to the criminal investigations of Donald Trump.

00:11:08.340 Will you protect those records in a manner consistent with ordinary FBI document preservation

00:11:13.660 practices as head of the FBI?

00:11:16.140 All records will.

00:11:17.900 No destruction of documents to please Trump?

00:11:22.260 No, I think he put forth a memo saying all records must be preserved.

00:11:26.860 Good.

00:11:27.120 Are you done?

00:11:30.940 Time's up.

00:11:33.160 Senator Kennedy.

00:11:36.980 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:11:40.240 Mr. Patel, did you listen to what my colleague Senator Welch had to say about politicizing the

00:11:51.500 FBI and the Department of Justice?

00:11:53.300 I did, sir.

00:11:53.880 I did, too.

00:11:58.120 I always listen when Senator Welch speaks.

00:12:04.240 And he's right.

00:12:08.800 But here's where we find ourselves today.

00:12:11.560 And you can put an end to this.

00:12:12.960 For better or worse, either in reality or perception, in modern times, the FBI has been politicized.

00:12:30.200 Or at least there's an appearance.

00:12:31.960 It started with Mr. James Comey.

00:12:36.200 He publicly investigated the political nominee of both major parties.

00:12:48.820 Guinness Book of World Records.

00:12:52.180 He publicly investigated both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

00:12:58.920 Held a press conference.

00:13:03.240 Hurt that agency more than I will ever know.

00:13:06.560 I wouldn't put Mr. Comey in charge of a ham sandwich.

00:13:12.840 And so did Peter Strzok.

00:13:19.620 And so did Lisa Page.

00:13:23.440 And so did Michael Sussman.

00:13:26.500 And the person who gave him a Hillary Clinton lawyer, a pass, to roam around the Department of Justice and the FBI at will.

00:13:38.740 And so did the prosecutors who tried to slip by a two misdemeanor plea deal for the president's son.

00:13:48.340 And it hurts me to say this, but so did Attorney General Garland.

00:13:58.540 For the first time in the history of ever, the Attorney General Garland chose to prosecute a former president of the United States.

00:14:11.940 And this part is really special.

00:14:14.340 He did it after the former president of the United States announced that he would be a candidate against his, Attorney General Garland's boss.

00:14:27.000 Forget the merits.

00:14:29.060 We can argue those all day long.

00:14:30.780 You understand the perception?

00:14:32.840 It's got to end now.

00:14:36.380 The seal has been broken.

00:14:39.740 We've got to stop it now.

00:14:41.820 Don't go over there and burn down that agency.

00:14:47.540 You go over there and lift it up.

00:14:51.240 Clean it out, but lift it up in accordance with due process and the rule of law.

00:14:57.300 Because Senator Welch is right.

00:15:00.000 This has got to end now.

00:15:04.600 Senator Coons.

00:15:05.660 Thank you, Chairman Grassley.

00:15:06.940 Mr. Patel, our agencies, in particular the FBI and DOJ, critically rely on inspectors general and general counsels for advice.

00:15:17.760 As Chair Grassley and many of us have long recognized, federal agencies rely on the independent oversight of inspectors general.

00:15:24.900 And agencies depend on the legal advice of offices of general counsel.

00:15:28.040 And as you've testified today, it's your intention to lead the FBI within the boundaries of law and the Constitution.

00:15:34.880 Last week, President Trump fired more than a dozen inspectors general and provided no notice to Congress.

00:15:41.820 We passed a law in 2022 requiring the president to provide Congress with a substantive rationale, including detailed and case-specific reasons, 30 days before the removal of NAIG.

00:15:53.680 How many days has President Trump been in office?

00:15:58.940 Sorry, Senator, approximately 10.

00:16:00.940 10.

00:16:01.600 Is it possible to give 30 days notice in 10 days?

00:16:04.900 I'm not great at math, but it doesn't sound like it.

00:16:07.180 It doesn't.

00:16:07.760 You're an attorney.

00:16:08.720 Did Trump violate, facially violate this law in terms of the timing of the firing of the inspectors general?

00:16:14.240 Senator, I'm not going to entertain a hypothetical on legal violations, but I will look into all possible legal violations referred.

00:16:20.700 I'll simply say that for those of us concerned about the quality and the duration of service of inspectors general, this was troubling.

00:16:29.420 And frankly, I think it is a facial violation of a law passed by Congress.

00:16:33.380 In September 2023, on the Great America Show, a podcast, you said, and I believe I'm quoting accurately, all these general counsel's offices throughout every agency and department need to be slashed in half because these lawyers just come in there and they come in there to slow down and paralyze the movement of the America First agenda.

00:16:53.280 Mr. Patel, does that comment suggest that if confirmed, it would be your intention to fire the career civil servants, the lawyers in the FBI's general counsel office?

00:17:04.340 No.

00:17:05.740 Could you give us any reassurance that it would be your intention to listen to the advice and counsel of the inspector general of the department and the general counsel of the agency?

00:17:16.920 Mr. Patel, addressing those in order, Senator, with IGs, as you know, I believe, and I've shown throughout this proceeding, that IGs have provided valuable service in Republican and Democratic administrations.

00:17:29.600 And I think they're critical and we must have competent IGs going forward.

00:17:33.600 Similarly, with general counsel's offices who are stocked with career employees, those employees must continue their work so long as no employee politicizes the work and mission of the FBI.

00:17:43.960 Thank you.

00:17:45.140 My core concern about these firings of the IGs, about the independence of the agency, have not been fully satisfied.

00:17:52.900 I appreciate your answers here today, but I remain concerned by your previous statements and your answers here today.

00:17:58.300 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:17:59.440 Before I recognize Cruz, Senator, has some unanimous consent request.

00:18:06.640 Mr. Chairman, I have two letters here I'd ask unanimous consent to be entered into the record.

00:18:10.400 One is from William Webster, FBI Director under Presidents Carter and Reagan, and CIA Director under Reagan and Bush.

00:18:17.620 He's in the audience.

00:18:18.860 And another from 23 Republican former law enforcement officials.

00:18:23.460 These are letters in opposition to the nomination.

00:18:26.380 Without objection, so ordered, Senator Cruz.

00:18:30.460 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:18:31.560 Mr. Patel, in the first round of questioning, you and I talked about the politicization and weaponization of the FBI and the Department of Justice.

00:18:41.280 That has significant negative consequences in terms of undermining trust in the FBI and the Department of Justice and abusing the power of the FBI and the Department of Justice.

00:18:51.500 But it also has consequences in that it diverts resources at the FBI and DOJ from urgent law enforcement and national security priorities.

00:19:03.340 I will tell you, when I go back home to Texas, I am somewhat regularly asked by Texans, should we abolish the FBI?

00:19:10.660 Now, my answer to that is an emphatic no.

00:19:14.880 The FBI has a critical mission of stopping bad guys, whether serial killers or human traffickers or child molesters or terrorists.

00:19:27.860 But it says something that a sizable percentage of America has so lost faith in the Bureau that they believe it should be shut down.

00:19:39.360 I think allowing the FBI to be politicized has resulted in far too little attention being placed on very serious national security risk.

00:19:52.120 That while we may disagree on the meaning of Rule 6E as to getting the transcript, you would not object to this committee seeking access to that transcript.

00:20:04.700 No.

00:20:05.920 And you're aware that Rule 6E permits you to talk about your own testimony.

00:20:14.040 Will you testify to this committee, let's say in a classified setting, as to what you said to the grand jury?

00:20:24.300 Senator, I'm here to testify to this committee about everything I'm allowed to.

00:20:28.640 You're allowed under Rule 6E to tell us what you said to the grand jury.

00:20:33.680 This is kind of the first day that an assistant U.S. attorney goes to the first grand jury and is asked by a witness, can I talk about what I told you?

00:20:43.700 And the answer is yes.

00:20:45.380 You know.

00:20:46.580 Senator, I will consult with counsel and provide the appropriate answer.

00:20:49.960 Let me just say right to the point, Mr. Patel.

00:20:54.100 What are you hiding?

00:20:55.720 Why won't you tell us?

00:20:57.220 You testified under a grant of immunity after taking the Fifth Amendment, as you're privileged to do, and the appearance here is that you have something to hide.

00:21:09.780 I submit to my colleagues on the committee, we need to know what the grand jury testimony is.

00:21:14.640 We need access to that second volume.

00:21:17.280 And you have no objection to our seeking it, but you won't tell us, even in a classified, confidential setting.

00:21:27.940 I think that position is disqualifying.

00:21:31.840 That was days of testimony years ago.

00:21:34.420 I don't have the ability to recollect that.

00:21:35.640 Well, you can refresh your recollection with access to the transcript.

00:21:39.300 Let me ask you another topic.

00:21:41.600 And I really regret that you won't cooperate with us on the grand jury testimony.

00:21:48.980 Would you object to the firing of the Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz?

00:21:55.320 Would I object to it?

00:21:56.620 That's the providence for the Attorney General to make.

00:21:59.320 It's not something I would participate in.

00:22:01.080 But you know of his work.

00:22:02.480 It's been bipartisan, very thorough, competent, objective, impartial.

00:22:08.500 He has been critical in Republican and Democratic administration.

00:22:13.560 Won't you object to his firing?

00:22:15.560 I think he's done a great job, but it's not up to me to decide who stays and goes at the Department of Justice.

00:22:20.420 But I'm not asking you to make the decision.

00:22:22.720 I'm asking you whether you will take a stand, speak up, stand up in favor of a watchdog who has helped preserve the integrity of the Department of Justice

00:22:33.880 and aligned himself against waste and fraud and abuse.

00:22:38.500 If the Attorney General asks me, yes, from my opinion.

00:22:41.560 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:22:45.120 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:22:48.100 Mr. Patel, I want to continue on a brief topic I mentioned earlier and one that we discussed in my office when you came to visit in December.

00:22:55.680 And that is Redstone Arsenal and the FBI assets and the men and women that will report to you when confirmed that are there in Huntsville, Alabama.

00:23:07.260 So I really want you to come and visit with me.

00:23:11.220 The state-of-the-art facilities that you have, that we have there, are pretty incredible.

00:23:16.340 I mean, when you look across the board, we have the Ballistics Research Facility, the Hazardous Device School.

00:23:21.660 We have TDAC, which is the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytics Center.

00:23:26.160 And last but not least, obviously, what is sometimes referred to as Headquarters South.

00:23:32.840 We have the sprawling north and south campus of the FBI.

00:23:37.800 Look, there has been over $4 billion invested there.

00:23:41.220 It is truly remarkable that the training that is going on there, they are delivering to missions when it comes to emerging technologies, investigating lead generation, security, and contracts personnel, and human resources, just to name a few.

00:23:58.760 Fortunately, I don't have enough time in my three minutes to dive into all of the incredible work that's doing there.

00:24:03.880 But I just want to reiterate that the workforce occupying these facilities, they were moved from D.C. to Huntsville.

00:24:12.100 They are working diligently each and every day to make sure that men and women in uniform are the best trained, equipped, and ready that there is.

00:24:20.000 And I would love a commitment from you just to come with me to visit those facilities, see what those men and women are doing, what they're learning, and all of the training that's right there at their fingertips.

00:24:30.740 Senator, you have that commitment, and this is a great example, real quick, of the FBI's capabilities and infrastructure systems around the country that already exist to the tune of billions.

00:24:40.480 Billions.

00:24:40.880 And not only is it, I believe, a 38,000-acre sprawling campus, this Congress billeted 2,500 seats, but 4,000 seats still remain open.

00:24:50.860 So let's go to work.

00:24:51.880 I'll come to Alabama, and let's fill those seats. 0.89

00:24:53.820 Absolutely.

00:24:54.520 I love it.

00:24:55.120 I'd love to hear that.

00:24:56.060 And another thing, too, obviously, as we've looked over the last couple of years, I'll put on my appropriator hat, the budget, obviously, for the FBI has been decreased.

00:25:06.740 Obviously, you're going to help us return America's trust in the FBI.

00:25:11.360 But as we look at that and we try to make those numbers work, I just want on your radar, I want you to be thoughtful about this.

00:25:17.200 You know, it's easy to say, let's cut training.

00:25:19.380 That's an easy thing to cut first.

00:25:20.840 I think that that's the worst thing that we can do.

00:25:22.860 We want to make sure that our men and women are ready, that they're ready to find leads that lead to child trafficking rings and other things.

00:25:32.920 And you've talked about the rapes, the fentanyl overdoses, the murders.

00:25:36.600 We want to make sure that we are equipping them with all the tools necessary to-

00:25:41.480 This is rhetoric that have been used against you.

00:25:47.380 Of course.

00:25:48.100 As a president of this sort of hateful language, I am deeply sympathetic. 1.00

00:25:54.440 I also note, Mr. Patel, that in the past, you have recognized the value of diversity.

00:26:00.660 Back when you were in law school, you signed on to an amicus brief in the Grither case, supporting consideration of race in law school admissions.

00:26:12.000 I hope that joining the Trump administration will not cause you to change your views on the value of diversity.

00:26:22.140 Reflecting on this hearing, it is sad that we are considering Mr. Patel's nomination, despite his gross inadequacy to do the job of FBI director fairly and objectively.

00:26:35.540 Yet there is no question that much pressure has been brought to bear on my Republican colleagues to support this nomination.

00:26:46.680 For example, a man named Mike Davis has been threatening my Republican colleagues.

00:26:52.180 He said that this vote was a red line, that if Senate Republicans don't vote to confirm Mr. Patel, his organization, a group called the Article III Project, would make their lives and not based on this sort of pressure.

00:27:10.980 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:27:11.900 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:27:18.960 I want to give you a chance to respond to this because I think my colleagues are misstating the law here.

00:27:24.420 You can't authorize the release of your grand jury testimony.

00:27:27.780 Only a court can do that.

00:27:28.780 Is that right?

00:27:29.360 That's been my understanding.

00:27:30.500 Yeah, and I think you've stated that the best reflection and the most accurate version of your testimony is the transcript in the grand jury testimony that you're fine to be released, but the court has to go do that, right?

00:27:46.480 Yes, sir.

00:27:46.780 Yeah, okay.

00:27:47.320 And it lasted like three or four days.

00:27:48.600 Is that what you're saying?

00:27:49.740 Yes.

00:27:50.400 Yeah.

00:27:50.540 I also want to, Senator Durbin's talked about, you know, what your priority or your priorities will be, and I think your testimony has been that it will be adherence to the Constitution and the people of the United States of America, right?

00:28:03.440 You take that very seriously.

00:28:05.100 That's it.

00:28:05.680 That's the only thing that matters.

00:28:07.080 Could you talk about maybe some other priorities?

00:28:09.920 We talked initially in my first round about getting the FBI back to its core mission, which is to fight crime and not, you know, sort of try to do the things that it's been doing the last four years.

00:28:25.300 Talk about how you might bring that together.

00:28:27.940 So, Senator, I appreciate the questions.

00:28:30.220 Something I wanted to address maybe six hours ago, so I appreciate the opportunity to do it now.

00:28:34.940 Now, whether we prioritize going after violent crime and national security, we cannot defend against either of those successfully unless we go after the underlying criminal nexus there.

00:28:47.800 And whether it's human trafficking, whether it's terrorism, whether it's opioids, and whether it's just outright gang violence, the intersection there is narco-trafficking.

00:28:56.560 It is the underlying underbelly, the evil, illegal underbelly of all those operations.

00:29:02.640 And we have not prioritized, in my opinion, as a law enforcement agency, the collective power we can rein down on criminal narco-trafficking networks.

00:29:13.780 And ideally, if I'm confirmed, Senator, I would like to work with Attorney General Pam Bondi, if she could be confirmed, to set up Regional Drug Interdiction Task Force, where our local sheriff's offices, our local PDs, and our local precincts are folded in with the FBI on an information and authority-sharing basis to take down the criminal networks.

00:29:34.420 And the advice and consent process has been extremely informative of this to me.

00:29:38.060 I do not know your jurisdictions as well as you all ever will.

00:29:41.200 That's what makes this so critically important educational.

00:29:44.220 I did not know that Memphis was the homicide capital of America per capita.

00:29:48.000 I did not know that there was a corridor in Ohio that speaks to the human trafficking volume more so than any intersection in the country.

00:29:54.640 That is what I will rely on your expertise across the aisle to fold in those resources and target those criminal active hotbeds.

00:30:02.060 And I believe if we are successful in actually crippling the narco-trafficking networks, we will see a decrease monumental in violent crime and at the same time protecting Americans' national security. 0.75

00:30:13.060 And maybe, just maybe, where you have a third of the personnel for the FBI here in Washington, D.C., maybe, just maybe, one of the reforms is to get more of those folks out into those areas across the country to go do that, right?

00:30:27.180 That's what you're talking about.

00:30:28.120 I think so, sir.

00:30:28.840 Thank you.

00:30:29.320 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:30:33.260 Mr. Patel, do you know any of these five individuals?

00:30:37.500 Erica Knight?

00:30:38.640 You are still here watching human events.

00:30:41.180 Don't worry.

00:30:41.640 We will go back to the hearing.

00:30:43.180 But we are joined for a special interview that I wanted to bring you guys with none other.

00:30:47.300 I don't know how many times we get to have chefs here joining us on Real America's Voice, but Chef Andrew Gruul, I'm sure you've seen not just his wonderful food, but his great posts all over X.

00:30:57.120 I feel like you go viral all the time.

00:30:59.440 I'm honored to have you joining us.

00:31:00.700 I know you wanted to talk about the RFK confirmation hearings, the Maha movement more broadly.

00:31:05.660 I think you have an interesting perspective.

00:31:07.180 Being a chef, working so intimately with food, obviously the food supply, I think, is one of the vectors that the Maha movement is kind of most, I would say, on offense about, whether it's the depleted minerals in the soil or just the weird, woke dietary guidelines and regulations that they're trying to push on us. 0.98

00:31:24.660 I'm curious if you just want to kind of give the audience your perspective, your vantage point from the confirmation hearings that we've heard with respect to RFK Jr.

00:31:33.420 Well, first and foremost, I'm absolutely shocked that there is so much pushback when it comes to RFK because I've been in this space now of kind of food systems and sustainability and obviously running restaurants for 10, 15 years.

00:31:48.840 And it was 10 or 15 years ago when I started really talking about local food systems that the only support I actually got, funny enough, was from some of these kind of left-leaning hippies who were all about it.

00:31:59.220 And now those same people are out there decrying RFK Jr.

00:32:03.380 as a conspiracy theorist.

00:32:05.540 So it's all just political talking points.

00:32:07.580 This is the most bipartisan confirmation I think I've seen in at least a decade.

00:32:12.200 And yet, for some reason, it's controversial.

00:32:14.420 All he's asking for is that we actually break up the consolidated food manufacturers who are running our entire food system, quite literally, also on the restaurant side of things,

00:32:25.000 and allow a lot of these small and local farmers to access the supply chain and to get people to understand why it's important to eat healthier food.

00:32:33.100 Get a lot of these chemicals, which, quite frankly, are more medicine-like than they are food-like, out of our food system.

00:32:39.020 And that doesn't necessarily mean by, you know, unilateral decree or banning, but just the mere education will decrease the demand.

00:32:45.160 I see it on the restaurant side because all we are forced through is all that's forced on us are all of these processed, chemically-laden foods

00:32:55.180 in the form of rebates and subsidies that restaurateurs get up front, and then they have to buy through one of the three big distributors.

00:33:02.800 And I've been fighting against that for years, which is why it's been, you know, somewhat of a grassroots movement on the chef's side of things.

00:33:10.840 And, of course, all of these other chefs are now quiet about RFK because all of the propaganda has hit the airwaves.

00:33:17.140 But he's just trying to get people good, healthy food and allow us as chefs and foodies to access that in a much easier manner.

00:33:25.660 I'm also a father of four. I've got four kids.

00:33:27.940 So this vaccine issue is also really important to me.

00:33:30.580 We've moved our kids out of the public school system because we weren't going to subject them to the crazy litany of vaccines that are out there.

00:33:37.020 I've already got one child who did have a vaccine injury, and we know exactly what it's like.

00:33:42.620 But for us to just say, hey, maybe we should look at this and to have people call me a conspiracy theorist for asking questions is absurdity at its peak.

00:33:51.920 It's the apex of absurdity.

00:33:53.840 So I'm really vested in this, obviously, but it's pretty simple.

00:33:58.320 And if you think about it, it's very, very bipartisan, but it's just another example of the way in which the propaganda machine, in conjunction with big government and, of course, big media, comes together to try and brainwash Americans.

00:34:09.760 Well, there's such an interesting bifurcation, I think, between food and medicine, where despite all these Democrat senators who look like they could use a walk or a workout,

00:34:18.080 lecturing us about how they really, really care about health, they just don't like how RFK is going about it.

00:34:23.060 But I think you hit the nail on the head how food and food systems and food supply chains are such a critical part of all of this.

00:34:29.800 I'm curious, from your sort of insider experience, you know, I think most restauranteurs, chefs, in some capacity, are involved,

00:34:36.640 whether it's the trade or industry associations that obviously don't represent consumers, don't represent families,

00:34:41.960 don't represent the average American citizen, what do you think the pressure is right now on a lot of these senators to vote against him?

00:34:50.380 What does sort of that whipping of votes, the pressure campaigns coming from big farmer, people like Mike Pence,

00:34:55.780 who are getting a bunch of money to shill against RFK, in your sort of experience, what do you think that is looking like behind the scenes?

00:35:04.300 Well, that's what I keep talking about. It's all about special interest money, right?

00:35:07.780 So we see it on the restaurant side of things, because all these massive food manufacturers,

00:35:11.900 they pump so much money into the supply chain through the massive distributors and then ultimately to the chefs to say,

00:35:17.420 look, if you commit to buying this product and here's all the fake health benefits of it,

00:35:21.580 we're going to give you $50,000 up front in the form of a rebate, which is really just them giving you the money,

00:35:26.680 and then you pay double the amount back over a certain period of time.

00:35:29.320 And they know that restauranteurs are strapped with cash because it's the most margin-tight industry.

00:35:34.040 So they use that money to manipulate the chefs to try and control the consumer base to manage what they consider to be trends.

00:35:41.840 And what I think is hilarious is that, let's use seed oils as an example,

00:35:45.000 over the past three to four years, suddenly talking about seed oils is conspiratorial, right?

00:35:50.540 It's a right-wing conspiracy to say that you don't want seed oils.

00:35:53.900 And you actually now have left-wing influencers who know nothing about health going out there and saying,

00:35:59.440 oh, yeah, I'm going to chug my canola oil or I'm going to, you know, there's nothing wrong with Coke.

00:36:04.080 And now they're fitness experts.

00:36:05.500 That's what I love about this.

00:36:06.500 I've been doing this my whole life.

00:36:07.880 And now, you know, every Twinkie on the left is a fitness expert. 1.00

00:36:11.300 It's like, first of all, you know, you got your barrel-chested freak and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, 0.93

00:36:17.080 but you're just being paid from an influencer side of things.

00:36:20.560 Now extrapolate that across a massive industry, restaurants and food service,

00:36:24.220 and you've got chefs and general managers and restaurant owners who are taking that same money and they're saying,

00:36:30.080 yeah, we're going to use soybean oil.

00:36:31.420 We're only going to use canola oil.

00:36:32.720 And why would I use butter or why would I use healthy fats?

00:36:35.000 That's a bad thing.

00:36:36.080 And then their customers hear that and they say, you know, the local restaurant,

00:36:39.320 that chef and restaurant owner said it was a bad thing and therefore he's an expert.

00:36:43.020 Now you can take what they're doing in food service.

00:36:45.200 Now apply that to medicine, right?

00:36:47.620 And doctors are the chefs or, you know, nurses.

00:36:50.180 They're the chefs in this world.

00:36:51.340 And everybody looks to them as the experts.

00:36:53.320 So it's all about that money coming down, right?

00:36:55.920 Hitting the people who need it, politicians, you know, the lobbyists know what buttons to push,

00:37:00.500 and then chefs, restaurateurs.

00:37:02.260 And you can extrapolate this also into fitness and so many other industries.

00:37:05.780 And then that money talks and it goes right back up to the top and then it comes back out.

00:37:10.280 And where you see it being distilled is on the distribution into kids' school foods, right?

00:37:18.080 Subsidies and what they're being fed is disgusting and that's why kids are sick.

00:37:22.460 And then when you see SNAP benefits, you see people getting food stamps and all they're getting is bags of Doritos and Coke and all this bad food.

00:37:28.820 And I'm not saying we should ban any of that.

00:37:30.520 Don't get me wrong.

00:37:31.120 I love a Diet Coke from time to time and I'll crush some Doritos.

00:37:33.920 But if you're using taxpayer dollars, right, to support these big food manufacturers only to make people and especially kids sick, well, that's a broken system.

00:37:44.120 I would much rather, if those dollars are going to be spent, I'd much rather see them spent to support small farmers, independent farmers who are producing good meat, regenerative agriculture,

00:37:53.520 things that are actually perpetuating a much healthier ecosystem and encouraging the biodiversity of our ecosystem as opposed to ripping it apart with GMOs, just monocropping and subsidies that ruin our soil.

00:38:05.500 It's the new, I guess, 2025 version of bread and circuses, except the circuses are a lot worse and who knows what's in the bread that they're trying to feed us.

00:38:15.960 Chef Andrew Groll, I think you're the first chef I've interviewed, hopefully not the last time.

00:38:19.700 I know you've got a wonderful book about making food, being in the kitchen, something that you can do with your wonderful family.

00:38:25.580 Give us a little 30-second plug on that and how people can stay up to date with everything you're working on.

00:38:29.900 Yeah, this is our family cookbook.

00:38:32.880 So this is about getting people in the kitchen.

00:38:34.640 It's real simple.

00:38:35.360 It's approachable.

00:38:36.040 It's easy.

00:38:36.640 No seed oils.

00:38:37.760 Because in the kitchen, that's where people come together.

00:38:40.400 We've lost community and we've lost kind of our moral north star as well.

00:38:44.180 And I say that happens when family sits around the table.

00:38:46.900 Food is the great unifier.

00:38:48.320 You can get our cookbook at andrewcookbook.com.

00:38:51.140 It's really simple.

00:38:52.060 It's a partnership with Brave Books, which is a wonderful company, publishing company as well, with good morals and good values.

00:38:58.780 And that's what this cookbook is all about.

00:39:00.800 Let's just get into the kitchen, knock down some of those barriers, and even just cooking more, one more time a week with your family will make a huge difference in everybody's life.

00:39:10.360 Andrew, thank you so much for joining us.

00:39:12.160 We'll have you back on soon, hopefully to celebrate the confirmation of none other than RFK Jr.

00:39:17.020 And I want to pivot to another, I guess, angle of attack that people who certainly are opposing RFK Jr.

00:39:28.740 love to go and try to destroy this country with.

00:39:31.640 Usually when you're talking about, what, chance like death to America, you have to look overseas.

00:39:35.960 But I guess in this case, you don't really have to look that far.

00:39:38.940 I'm coming at you live from Washington, D.C.

00:39:40.720 So I guess I probably could just, what, walk outside five feet and find some crazy, deranged, although now defunded, left-wing NGO-type group that wants to come and destroy this country, subvert President Trump's strong borders agenda.

00:39:53.600 Also, they can, what, roll out George Soros and the World Economic Forum's master plan for open borders.

00:40:00.900 To that point, we're going to get into how George Soros is actively helping criminal migrants avoid deportation.

00:40:06.320 But before we get there, I want to walk you through with the American Civil Liberties Union, which you would think from the name, cares about you Americans or your civil liberties,

00:40:15.500 but apparently the only thing they care about is ensuring the rights of criminal legal aliens to avoid deportation and stay in this country and kill you and your family, your children and your grandchildren.

00:40:26.880 They put out a long memo, their new strategy, called the Firewall for Freedom.

00:40:31.640 Apparently, that's a wall that they can get behind.

00:40:34.200 And I want to read a quote from you.

00:40:35.620 Now, I don't know about you.

00:40:37.100 It sounds a little bit like election denialism to me.

00:40:40.320 The results of the 2024 election are clear.

00:40:42.680 State governments must step forward to become the front line for freedom and defend their residents against the Trump administration's promised assaults on our rights.

00:40:53.120 No, the 2024 election was actually a clear and historic mandate for President Donald J.

00:40:57.860 Trump in favor of strong and secure borders.

00:41:02.520 Sorry, ACLU.

00:41:03.940 You lost this one.

00:41:05.040 Oh, and you lost 2022.

00:41:06.780 But they continue.

00:41:08.040 Because they say in this memo, which we can flash on screen to show you just how well and how elaborate these schemes are plotted out,

00:41:17.260 that one of the things that they're now actively lobbying state and local officials to engage in is, quote,

00:41:22.320 And yes, if you didn't pick up on that Barry lead, that means absolutely no collaboration.

00:41:48.140 If you're a pedophile, a sex trafficker, a rapist, or a murderer, the American Civil Liberties Union does not want any police force on the ground to collaborate or to work with ICE.

00:41:59.240 That's how radical these people are.

00:42:03.520 But it gets worse.

00:42:05.520 Because their only focus is to, quote, protect people vulnerable to deportation by, get this,

00:42:11.220 apparently the preemptive pardons for Anthony Fauci and all those hacks wasn't enough.

00:42:16.780 Now they want to, quote, issue pardons to immigrants for state criminal convictions that make them deportable,

00:42:23.640 as well as passing legislation to allow people to obtain a driver's license without regard to citizenship.

00:42:31.520 And just for good measure, they also want to, quote, limit cooperation between local and federal law enforcement,

00:42:39.380 such as joint terrorism task forces.

00:42:42.480 They don't want to collaborate or cooperate with ICE or police authorities and officials

00:42:48.560 to nab actual terrorists in your neighborhoods and communities in the name of open borders

00:42:54.380 and in the name of opposing President Donald J. Trump.

00:42:57.460 That's the evil and depravity that you're up against with the innocuously named American Civil Liberties Union.

00:43:09.820 And just to make it even better, the ACLU, and this is some breaking news,

00:43:14.660 but the ACLU is suing, of course, in concert with a bunch of voting rights groups,

00:43:20.260 try to make that make sense, to block these deportations.

00:43:24.720 In addition to going against President Trump's efforts to basically rescind or reverse the 14th Amendment.

00:43:30.700 And they're suing on behalf of a group called Make the Road New York.

00:43:35.420 Now here's what's so interesting about Make the Road New York.

00:43:38.800 Like I said, the far left activist group that is on the front lines of making sure

00:43:43.140 that the ACLU's wet dream of you and your family being killed by illegal aliens can happen 0.93

00:43:48.840 in Donald J. Trump's America.

00:43:50.400 And this group that's now at the legal front lines of ensuring that that nightmarish hell becomes a reality,

00:43:57.540 well, guess how much money they've received in terms of government grants and contributions

00:44:01.480 in their most recent tax filing for, I guess, fiscal year 2023?

00:44:06.780 $16,124,582.

00:44:10.540 On top of the tens of millions of government grants that they've already received.

00:44:16.980 So in other words, the Biden regime, in addition to all the years preceding,

00:44:21.500 has been pumping full these far left lawfare groups in order to carry out legal assaults

00:44:28.180 against the Trump administration to ensure that our border remains open

00:44:32.400 and that criminal illegal aliens can't be deported.

00:44:36.460 And while we're at it, George Soros, one of the radio stations that he recently acquired

00:44:44.760 thanks to Joe Biden, a network called Odyssey,

00:44:47.480 well, they were actually busy doxing ICE agents in the cars that they were operating out of

00:44:52.200 conducting these mass deportation raids.

00:44:54.520 Just a few days ago, if we can roll this radio shot, this is again played on a George Soros radio station

00:45:01.840 talking about trying to help criminal illegal aliens avoid deportation.

00:45:06.860 Let's roll it.

00:45:08.260 The chances in just a moment.

00:45:10.580 First, though, I'm Brett Burkhart and here's what's happening.

00:45:13.040 San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan and Council Member Peter Ortiz confirmed today

00:45:17.380 that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are currently carrying out an operation on the east side of town.

00:45:23.600 The Santa Clara County Rapid Response Network, which is a community defense projecting system

00:45:29.640 for immigrant communities against deportation threats.

00:45:33.280 It first reported the activity on its platforms.

00:45:35.920 In a statement of KCBS radio, Mayor Mahan says the city's police department does not assist

00:45:41.460 with or participate in these operations in any way.

00:45:45.660 The county's response network says agents in San Jose were in unmarked vehicles,

00:45:51.120 including a black Dodge Durango, a gray Nissan Maxima, and white Nissan truck.

00:45:56.800 ICE agents were also reported outside a residence on South White and Tully Roads.

00:46:01.420 And officers were reportedly at the target on King and Story Roads.

00:46:05.780 Stay with KCBS. We'll be tracking it for you.

00:46:08.600 I think we just listened to a minute of treason because that's exactly what you just witnessed.

00:46:13.760 Again, that's a George Soros-owned and operated radio station.

00:46:18.440 You heard down to the make and model of the frickin' car that they were using to deport criminal illegal aliens. 0.81

00:46:26.320 They were doxing on airwaves.

00:46:29.960 First and foremost, I think President Trump should go and rescind any and all active,

00:46:35.400 let alone, I guess maybe, can you retroactively rip some of those federal grants away,

00:46:39.260 from groups who are behind these lawsuits, this advocacy,

00:46:44.240 to make sure that President Trump's immigration agenda cannot be rolled out.

00:46:48.500 The ACLU is busy filing FOIA after FOIA after FOIA requests.

00:46:55.440 So they can, what, leak to the media, like they did, I'm sure, to the Wall Street Journal,

00:46:59.400 ahead of these mass deportation raids, like the one in Chicago.

00:47:02.740 So President Trump can be kneecapped.

00:47:05.300 They can get ahead of him.

00:47:07.780 It really is sick and depraved.

00:47:09.920 I mean, truly, I'm really at a loss for words when I broadcast.

00:47:12.800 But the American Civil Liberties Union,

00:47:14.780 let that sink in, is working overtime

00:47:17.960 to ensure that convicted criminals will get pardons

00:47:22.720 from people who you supposedly elected at the state level,

00:47:27.800 because I guess the effort to get Joe Biden to do it on the federal level

00:47:30.280 didn't work for those criminals, only certain criminals, like Anthony Fauci.

00:47:34.220 They're working overtime to ensure that those people will not be deported.

00:47:40.100 And by the way, just to round it all out, I don't think we have time to play it,

00:47:43.220 but the ACLU, in true propaganda form,

00:47:46.040 has also launched an actual smear campaign,

00:47:49.080 a propaganda campaign called Letters to America,

00:47:52.280 where they're showing a bunch of, oh, poor me, cry me a river videos

00:47:55.820 of so-called illegal aliens who came to the United States for, what, a better life?

00:48:01.600 Well, what about the American citizens who want a better life

00:48:04.420 and are sick and tired of being used and exploited

00:48:07.480 and laughed at and mocked and ridiculed,

00:48:09.740 like you're seeing going on at the hearings today?

00:48:13.200 The regime that weaponized against you

00:48:15.220 and put Stephen K. Bannon in jail and Peter Navarro in jail

00:48:18.200 now wants to sit there and gaslight you

00:48:20.820 and tell you that if you think Kash Patel being the answer

00:48:24.860 to all of the disgusting degeneracy and weaponization

00:48:27.940 that has gone on at the FBI,

00:48:29.480 that you're actually the crazy one.

00:48:32.280 Or that someone like Tulsi Gabbard,

00:48:33.980 who's served honorably in the Army Reserves,

00:48:39.340 that I guess she was good enough to die for the United States of America,

00:48:42.540 but now that she wants to tell the IC

00:48:44.320 that they're a bunch of lying hacks

00:48:46.100 who've only ever used their security clearances

00:48:48.220 to screw this country over,

00:48:50.780 now apparently she's not good enough. 0.99

00:48:53.220 And that's what they said to the tens of thousands

00:48:55.700 of young American men and women

00:48:57.240 who've died shedding blood for this country,

00:48:59.340 for a globalist regime that truly hates them.

00:49:05.200 It was an honor to have filled in

00:49:06.840 for none other than Jack Posobiec today.

00:49:08.920 You've got to use promo code POSO,

00:49:10.600 sorry Steve, on War Room.

00:49:12.200 Of course, get the books, bulletproof, all that.

00:49:13.880 We're going to toss back to the hearing.

00:49:15.640 I believe Steve will be back for 5 p.m. at War Room.

00:49:17.980 Natalie, I'm just filling in for the one and only Jack Posobiec.

00:49:20.140 Thank you guys for watching

00:49:21.180 and enjoy the rest of this beat-down hearing.

00:49:24.040 Have a good one.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 30, 2025

The Historic Confirmation Hearings of Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr.

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