Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THE KARMELO ANTHONY DEFENSE IS CRASHING AND BURNING IN COURT

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00:01:23.840 If you thought the murder of Henry Nowak couldn't get any worse, 0.99

00:01:36.360 it's now been revealed UK police tried to stage an intervention

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00:01:44.420 before the trial of Vikram Digwa.

00:01:47.220 The Sunday Times reports the Hampshire police sought to release

00:01:50.360 a public statement to address what it described as disinformation circulating online while court

00:01:56.560 proceedings were at a critical point against Digwa. Serious escalation in the Middle East.

00:02:03.320 The Israeli Air Force has struck military targets with new airstrikes, saying they struck military

00:02:08.960 targets in the west and center of the country. We do not yet know the extent of the damage or if

00:02:14.260 there were any casualties. This latest flare up, though, happening after the IDF says Iran fired

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00:02:39.200 i've had enough thank you darling have a good time mr president let's please i traveled all the way

00:02:43.680 way to Wisconsin. I've sat in the rain with you. I know. I sat in the rain with you for an hour on

00:02:49.560 and off in the rain. And I've given you enough time. You ought to straighten out your press

00:02:53.940 because you know what? A country can never be great with a dishonest. Listen, we traveled all

00:02:59.240 the way to Wisconsin for this interview. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of

00:03:06.540 Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's voiced Operation Epic Fury, now reaching

00:03:12.460 day 100 with Israel and Iran both exchanging a barrage of missile fire over the weekend,

00:03:20.680 and particularly the last 24 hours or so. All of this came as Hezbollah and Israel launched

00:03:28.320 a series of attacks regarding northern Israel and then in the outskirts of Beirut itself. Iran

00:03:34.900 then coming out and saying that an attack on southern Lebanon will be responded to with

00:03:41.380 multiple salvos of missiles. Israel responded to that with their own barrage on Tehran,

00:03:48.540 as well as a petrochemical plant. And then you've got the Houthis and even Hamas saying that they

00:03:54.500 want to get back into the fight. This all comes on the heels of big New York Times report regarding

00:04:01.800 Israeli espionage on the United States. It all comes as President Trump has now achieved a sort

00:04:08.520 of mediator role that he's been taking regarding the two sides, saying that he wants to see

00:04:14.620 a deal, he wants there to be a ceasefire, he wants both sides, and really all sides

00:04:19.640 at this point, to put down their weapons and to begin to get back to the process of peace.

00:04:25.060 This is day 100 of the conflict.

00:04:29.980 And what do we see on one side?

00:04:31.460 we see, of course, Israel, the United States, the Gulf nations, and that's the GCC, the Gulf

00:04:38.840 Cooperative Council. And on the other side is the axis of resistance, the axis of resistance being

00:04:44.940 this Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas conflagration that have joined together in recent years. And that's 0.63

00:04:51.660 exactly what Iran is trying to put out to say that they are defending their allies in Hezbollah

00:04:57.800 with these attacks on Israel. Iran's ballistic missile capability degraded and yet still intact

00:05:04.540 with the ability to reach out and touch someone, as we would say, in the United States military, 0.90

00:05:10.060 putting warheads on foreheads. And of course, going back to taxing the Iron Dome and those

00:05:15.320 Patriot missile interceptor batteries. Of course, the United States Navy, it still maintains its

00:05:20.240 presence in the region, as well as the East Med and just outside the Persian Gulf. The Israeli

00:05:24.880 Navy also able to able to operate in the eastern Mediterranean at the same time.

00:05:32.160 So the big question is, of course, President Trump, will he be able to pull this deal together?

00:05:38.660 And some reporting coming out, Axios and others saying now that the president has warned Israel that if you launch further offensives against Iran,

00:05:48.860 that you may be doing so alone if they are not done within the confines of the deal.

00:05:55.080 So this is President Trump trying to do everything he can, use every piece of leverage,

00:05:59.540 whether it be military, whether it be diplomatic, whether it be economic,

00:06:03.480 to bring all sides of the warring conflict together to say,

00:06:08.240 we need to find a way to get a path to peace.

00:06:11.540 And that's been President Trump's goal from the very start.

00:06:14.760 The deal, the 14 point plan that had been drafted, I think, two weeks ago at this point, I've called it a major win.

00:06:21.620 It would be a major win if President Trump is able to get all partners to sign off on that.

00:06:27.340 But just like anything else, of course, getting the various sides in the Middle East to agree to peace has always been the tallest order for any American president.

00:06:37.480 But if there is an American president who could do so, who could bring together the Israelis, who can bring together the Arabs, who can bring together the Persians to at least get to a point of accommodation, that's where the United States can come in and potentially get back to a new status quo, get to a new status quo, not just for the Middle East, but of course, the Strait of Hormuz and the critical petrochemicals and the supplies coming out of there.

00:07:06.600 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

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00:07:34.280 This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:07:35.980 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means.

00:07:40.540 Welcome to the second American revolution.

00:07:50.260 All right, folks, we're back. Jack Posobiec here.

00:07:52.660 Real America's voice, human events daily.

00:07:56.400 And as we're following through all of these updates on Iran, creating these situational reports,

00:08:03.140 we want to remind you to stick with us right here on the program to be able to go through all of

00:08:08.680 this from day one all the way through day 100. As far as this thing goes, hopefully it's not going

00:08:14.880 to go much further. Hopefully, of course, we're in the camp of hoping that President Trump is able

00:08:20.080 to get to peace. But of course, sometimes those things are hard, even for anyone. As we've seen

00:08:28.120 the United States, Ukraine, Russia. This has always been a huge issue for the president.

00:08:33.400 He's wanted to bring those two sides together. Ukraine, Russia hasn't been able to get there

00:08:37.920 even on that front as well. I want to bring on a special friend, a special, special buddy of mine,

00:08:44.340 Viva Frye. Here's the host of the Viva Frye show. He joins us now. Viva, how are you? 0.98

00:08:49.280 I'm doing good. How are you doing, Jack?

00:08:51.680 Doing well. So, you know, here we are. I want to get your sense, you know, you looked at this as

00:08:56.220 well, you know, just from outside, like most of us, when we when we're looking at the Operation

00:09:02.460 Epic Fury, obviously, the White House wants a deal, but we see both sides flaring up. What do

00:09:07.080 you think? Is President Trump able to get them? Do you think he's able to going to be able to

00:09:11.700 get them to a deal soon? Or are we going to see this breakout into a larger, wider conflict?

00:09:17.560 Look, I'm I would not call myself a geopolitical expert. I have my own opinions, which I think

00:09:22.980 are relatively well-founded based on history and, you know, a keen understanding of things.

00:09:28.380 This was always the concern, even from the strikes back in July, where, you know, the

00:09:34.040 strikes always lead to broader conflict, or, you know, they have the tendency of leading

00:09:37.900 to broader conflict.

00:09:38.740 When those strikes came and went and declared mission accomplished, the nuclear program

00:09:44.360 obliterated, everyone sighed a deep sigh of relief.

00:09:48.340 Then, you know, you fast forward six, eight months, whenever the next strikes started,

00:09:51.820 And this was always the concern is if it wasn't accomplished the first time, what's the objective

00:09:57.200 the second time? The problem the second time was a moving goalpost of sorts of objectives so that

00:10:03.360 you couldn't really pinpoint what would be the success. If the success was obliterating the

00:10:08.500 nuclear weapons program, you know, then you could at least say, well, he's achieved that. Get out.

00:10:13.740 He doesn't need to make peace in an area, in a region where peace has been as elusive as, you

00:10:18.840 know the albino rhino so the issue has been when it started off as just pinpoint strikes it's not

00:10:25.900 a war and now you're a hundred days into what trump himself is referring to as a war and there

00:10:30.680 are multiple objectives or at least stated objectives for the purposes of this kinetic

00:10:34.600 conflict some of which haven't been achieved some of which might never be able to be achieved

00:10:39.240 it becomes an issue as to how you can then say mission accomplished for whatever that mission

00:10:44.160 was. So bottom line, a lot of us have been holding our breath, crossing our fingers,

00:10:48.960 get out, declare victory, leave the region, come back to domestic issues because midterms are

00:10:54.100 coming up and focus back on domestic stuff, fighting the deep state issues that are of

00:10:57.940 immediate concerns to all Americans. And you're just hoping that we get there sooner than later.

00:11:03.560 Yeah, no, there's no question. This election, this midterm is going to be all about

00:11:08.480 those kitchen table issues. And of course, we've seen gas prices come down just in my area. They've

00:11:14.400 come down almost almost a full dollar from where they are. You know, we were seeing for 450. It was

00:11:21.500 touching at some points. And now it's down to about three. I actually saw like 365 coming in.

00:11:28.220 So, you know, it's it's getting to be a point where certainly certainly this is going to come

00:11:33.540 up for the elections. And November is, of course, rapidly approaching. I wanted to switch gears

00:11:40.760 with you real quick, because something that's one of the cases that we've been covering a lot

00:11:45.380 here on the program, and all last week we were talking about this group that I've called the

00:11:51.040 anti-whites, and I've called this sort of menace that's out there. We had the case with Henry

00:11:56.440 Novak over in the UK. And then down in Texas, we also have this case of Carmelo Anthony.

00:12:02.860 And this is a case where it's very strangely and I think very unfortunate that it's not on live

00:12:09.100 stream. There are no clips of it coming out. There's no evidence of it coming out. There's

00:12:14.200 no video of it coming out. And I think this is really something where a lot of people have been

00:12:18.560 trying to paint a racial picture on this. But really, and in reality, what's what it seems to

00:12:24.560 be, is that this is a case where it was two individuals who got into an altercation.

00:12:30.180 One raised it to the level of a stabbing.

00:12:32.540 I wanted to get your take.

00:12:33.820 You've looked at this.

00:12:34.760 First of all, does this look like self-defense to you?

00:12:37.580 And second of all, if not, what would the appropriate charge be?

00:12:42.240 Well, you know, first of all, I've been following this from the day it happened.

00:12:46.380 And the minute it happened, because it was black on white violence, you knew that there

00:12:51.320 would be people who would racialize it.

00:12:53.000 say this is part and parcel of the broader spectrum or demographics of violence.

00:13:00.100 And I said, like, until there's an element of evidence illustrating or, you know, making evidence that this was racially motivated,

00:13:06.800 what it is is crime, crime between two, I say between two individuals, crime perpetrated against one individual by another. 0.95

00:13:13.160 It happens to be black. You can draw whatever broader, you know, consideration statistics you want from that. 0.97

00:13:18.900 But at the end of the day, there was nothing racially motivating this crime that we know of.

00:13:23.940 So in as much as some people on, I'll call it the right, there were some people racializing it, black on white violence, you know, the 13 percent committing 52 percent of the crime, all that stuff.

00:13:33.140 I was like, that's a separate issue.

00:13:35.220 This right now does not seem to be racially motivated.

00:13:37.640 Come trial time.

00:13:38.680 I've never seen anybody racialize this.

00:13:41.020 You know, this is like O.J. Simpson part two on steroids, except there's no doubt that the individual did it.

00:13:47.320 you know oj he always claimed innocence this guy says i stabbed him i killed him but it was

00:13:51.360 self-defense we'll get there in a second seeing the crowd which you know has the tendency of being

00:13:56.420 african-american or black out there you know say we got to stick with each other and it's a small

00:14:00.880 crowd and admittedly the people who show up are activists and are going to be activist prone to

00:14:05.440 defend carmelo anthony to see people defending this on you know racial biases that if this were

00:14:10.940 white on white it would be treated any differently it's insane to me but i've been told viva you're

00:14:16.540 canadian you don't understand race relations in america you don't have the same type of toxic

00:14:21.120 race relations up in canada i say we do to a lesser extent but there was nothing ever racial

00:14:26.520 about this in my view i didn't look at it that way uh seeing now you know the people out there

00:14:31.420 defending a black kid because they're black there was one woman saying you know we defend our own

00:14:36.340 as you would like nobody would defend a white kid who stabbed somebody in the heart over some 0.92

00:14:42.380 innocuous confrontation at a track meet and the idea that that is the tribalist level of these

00:14:47.800 politics that you know taints the way people implement justice at the most you know lethal

00:14:52.960 level is foreign to me uh whether or not it's self-defense i have an open mind and i said i

00:14:58.200 came into this saying maybe there were extenuating or attenuating circumstances maybe there was prior

00:15:04.280 history between these two individuals maybe there was something that could explain the way a kid

00:15:08.520 overreacts and set. I came in with an open mind waiting for the evidence. I've been following

00:15:14.220 this trial like everybody else. In my view, there is zero chance this is, you know, goes down as

00:15:19.280 bona fide self-defense. The narrative that was being depicted by those outside spreading

00:15:23.920 disinformation to protect one of their own, putting it in quotes, is that Austin Metcalf,

00:15:29.040 his brother, who were six foot five and they knew jujitsu, they swarmed him. They started hitting

00:15:33.180 him and he lashed out and in self-defense pulled out a knife that he already had in his backpack

00:15:37.640 for whatever the reason stabbed austin metcalf in the heart in the chest so hard it pierced his

00:15:41.840 sternum and and and killed him with a five inch blade look that evidence never materialized as

00:15:47.480 far as i know from this trial right now and i've been filing following it this looks like either

00:15:52.140 premeditated the kid went in looking for a fight and was looking for someone to touch him put his

00:15:58.220 hands on him so that he could then plunge a knife into his chest uh there's nothing in this that

00:16:04.260 smells of self-defense i think the defense even is realizing this now because a couple of their

00:16:07.760 witnesses have come up and basically blown up the case said you know one of the kids came back and

00:16:12.920 was basically impeached and said yeah initially i said they surrounded him and swarmed him but

00:16:16.540 that's not really what you see from the video and that's not really what i saw because i really

00:16:20.100 didn't see anything so self-defense my butt this was this was a kid who maybe if he had come into

00:16:26.700 this trial and said i just freaked out i just panicked you know have mercy on me the the the 0.84

00:16:32.660 expectation or you know punishment could be different but this is a kid who's coming in now

00:16:36.640 manufacturing a whole cloth self-defense argument as though the proportionate response to being

00:16:43.340 touched even if that's what austin metcalf did would be stabbing somebody in the chest with a

00:16:48.160 five-inch knife that you took to attract me for whatever the reason so no there's no nothing in

00:16:52.940 this in my view can be self-defense unless some wild evidence comes up between now and whenever

00:16:57.440 this trial is over but prosecution has rested its case and defense seems to be doing just as good of

00:17:01.620 the job as the prosecution here. Yeah, and I even saw there was a transcript. And of course,

00:17:08.040 we have to rely on transcripts in this because there is no live stream, which I think is sad

00:17:12.160 because in these cases that do become racialized, that do become very highly energized in today's

00:17:18.980 political climate, I think that cameras would actually be very helpful, which is something

00:17:24.280 that I've pushed for quite strenuously in the Tyler Robinson cage, which is, of course, still

00:17:28.480 pending. And first of all, and just to put out there that, you know, because I saw some people

00:17:34.260 tweeting about this over the weekend, that the coach, Austin Metcalf's coach, who I guess tended

00:17:41.060 to him immediately, you know, sort of the first, you know, not first responder, but first guy on

00:17:44.980 the scene right after the stab, he's black. And he went up and said that he didn't think that

00:17:51.700 Austin Metcalf had done anything wrong. He said that this was a common rule, of course,

00:17:58.180 not just for that track meet, but really any sporting event that you stick with your team.

00:18:01.460 You don't go and mess with the other team or a rival team.

00:18:04.280 It's just not something that's done during sporting events.

00:18:07.020 And that other members of Austin Metcalf's team, who are also black, came up and said that, yes,

00:18:13.820 it was in fact Carmelo Anthony who provoked the situation.

00:18:16.400 And in addition, there was a member of a defense witness who came up,

00:18:22.040 and even the defense's own witness came up to the stand and said, well, yeah,

00:18:27.600 it was actually Carmelo Anthony who provoked the incident by refusing to leave after being asked

00:18:33.620 about 15 times. And it seems that I'm, you know, kind of looking over some of the stuff right now,

00:18:39.980 you know, where they're they're saying that this this this hand motion that Austin Metcalf made

00:18:46.600 was, you know, a push on the shoulder or something seems very innocuous. But of course, you know,

00:18:53.420 they're saying, oh, well, you know, that was Carmelo Anthony, of course, was saying that was

00:18:57.280 enough for him to be able to defend himself. Of course, it doesn't raise to that level whatsoever

00:19:02.180 of lethal force being authorized. I want to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Jack

00:19:07.300 Posobiec, Viva Frye. We're talking about the latest in the Carmelo Anthony trial. We're right back,

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00:21:25.840 I want to get back now.

00:21:27.020 We're on with Viva Frye.

00:21:29.240 We're talking about the Carmelo Anthony, the latest updates.

00:21:31.760 And, Viva, when we see this going on, this idea that – and so let's ask about this, this push, this shove.

00:21:38.600 You know, by all accounts, it doesn't sound like it was a hard shove.

00:21:43.020 It doesn't sound like he he he pushed him very hard. And even the prosecutors are making this argument that Carmelo felt a momentary fear.

00:21:54.920 He was afraid for himself in the moment. He thought that something could happen, not just because of the shove, but because he felt that he was surrounded again in this this tent that he himself had put himself in.

00:22:05.380 does being shoved warrant a level of force consistent with what we see here, this stabbing

00:22:14.280 directly in the heart? I always qualify this. I'm a former Quebec litigator, never done criminal law

00:22:20.840 in the States. Texas has what's known as imperfect self-defense, so that even if your fear of

00:22:25.700 immediate bodily harm was unwarranted or irrational, it can still be argued as a mitigating factor.

00:22:31.900 the bottom line is this first of all misinformation disinformation galore people

00:22:37.800 initially were saying he stabbed him with a with a cleat cleaner then you hear some people saying

00:22:43.120 well it wasn't abnormal to have a knife because you know you might have to cut tape when you're

00:22:47.280 doing whatever my understanding he wasn't even competing he went over to the other tent and if

00:22:51.980 we want to steel man this some people were suggesting he went over to the other tent because

00:22:55.600 his team didn't have a tent there was a storm coming in etc etc so he was just taking refuge

00:23:00.520 and they told him to leave and he you know took umbrage with that the idea that this is touch me

00:23:06.740 and i get to stab you through the heart and highlighting that it's not like he punched

00:23:11.720 somebody and the kid fell back and knocked his head and died that way that that happens as well 0.99

00:23:16.040 and then the argument is well i obviously didn't mean to kill him at all but then you unfortunately

00:23:20.140 you know have to take your victim in the state that they come this is plunging a five-inch blade

00:23:25.880 through his sternum into his heart with such force that it penetrates and breaks off bone

00:23:30.960 from his sternum this was intended to be lethal force and for what for what could at best be

00:23:36.700 described as battery if that some people sitting there oh he assaulted him he put his hands on no

00:23:41.300 unwanted touching is battery in most places assault is you need to cause the person or have

00:23:46.660 the intention of causing the person to fear harm and the idea that somehow people want to say this

00:23:51.260 is now legitimate stand your ground defense so every time there's a shove at a track meet at a

00:23:55.280 high school you have the precedent where you can stab someone to death if you think that you're

00:23:59.080 defending yourself it's it's ex post facto justification an attempt to for what is nothing

00:24:05.840 shy of murder and i appreciate the kid 17 years old he's not facing a capital capital murder so

00:24:11.480 he can't face the death penalty and you know at 17 you can make an argument maybe not old enough

00:24:17.220 to try as an adult or you know sentenced to death old enough to try as an adult old enough to sentence

00:24:21.720 as an adult. This kid, by all accounts, was looking to provoke something of an antagonistic

00:24:28.320 response so that he could then do what he did. And if you thought that Austin Metcalf touching

00:24:34.760 his shoulder or pushing him, whatever you want to qualify it, was violent assault, then you leave

00:24:40.180 and you go get the cops and you come back and you charge him with assault. I made the analogy that

00:24:44.560 like had Carmelo, Carmelo Anthony, sorry, had he said, touch me and I will stab you in the heart, 0.81

00:24:51.400 that would have been a bona fide prosecutable threat. So how does it become self-defense when

00:24:56.000 he actually does it? You know, he says, Austin, touch me, put your hand on me, I will stab you 0.99

00:25:00.920 in the heart. There is no realm of the universe where that would not be considered a criminal 1.00

00:25:04.180 threat. And somehow it's going to become magically self-defense because he actually stabbed him in

00:25:07.940 the heart. It's nonsense. No. And, and in fact, I'm, I'm reading some of the transcripts now, 0.98

00:25:15.280 and even, even some of the defense's witnesses are coming up and saying, these are other,

00:25:19.660 you know, high school, um, you know, classmates and teammates and, and folks who were there.

00:25:25.100 And, uh, they asked one of the witnesses, you know, have you ever seen people go into other

00:25:29.480 tents? And they said, yes. They said, okay, but have you ever done that? He said, well,

00:25:33.700 Well, no, I've never done that, but, but yeah, I mean, it's just, these are the best that

00:25:38.160 they can come up with to try to determine that this, that there was no provocation on

00:25:42.480 the behalf of Carmelo, because if you lose the, the self-defense, which to my mind, they

00:25:48.660 have not been able to demonstrate that he was in a situation that called for lethal

00:25:53.980 use of force in self-defense, even under Texas law.

00:25:57.820 And as such, that means it's grounds for the murder charge.

00:26:02.640 Viva Fry, last minute to you.

00:26:04.360 Well, people have to understand this.

00:26:06.380 He admits to stabbing him.

00:26:08.160 He admits to having brought a knife.

00:26:09.480 He admits to having stabbed him.

00:26:10.780 He admits to having done the actus reus, the act of the crime.

00:26:14.000 And now the only question is, did he, at the time, legitimately fear for his life,

00:26:18.980 even if it was irrationally, and act in self-defense?

00:26:22.220 If this is the new standard, I mean, you are basically giving grounds to murder people

00:26:28.100 for what could at best be qualified as simple battery.

00:26:31.260 and the bottom line you know him being under the other tent asked to leave all this other stuff

00:26:36.400 oh he didn't have to leave austin had no authority to make him leave this is a situation that could

00:26:41.120 have been escalated by going to the principal going to authorities and saying austin shoved me

00:26:46.440 and i'd like to press charges and the only joke would be nobody would press charges there the

00:26:50.800 bottom line they had to lie about what the video evidence showed because it doesn't show him being

00:26:55.100 swarmed and jumped and beaten by four people and all of the witnesses there say it looked like he

00:27:00.120 was actually provoking no we remember that as well viva gotta run where can people follow your

00:27:04.120 brother viva fry on twitter and viva fry on rumble viva barneslaw.locals.com on locals

00:27:10.280 all right thanks so much we'll be right back with more from our own savannah

00:27:14.800 hernandez one of our best friends here on real nerca's voice

00:27:30.120 Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who should be getting policemen.

00:27:50.660 They found out I work for Turning Point USA.

00:27:54.060 And at that point, it got very aggressive and it got very violent.

00:27:58.940 I was surrounded and I had an entire family, a mother, a father, and a daughter who all took turns beating me up.

00:28:08.980 Law enforcement didn't come. I realized I had to walk myself out of this mob that wanted to hurt me.

00:28:13.780 And again, every single time I turned to leave, I was punched, I was pushed, I was shoved.

00:28:18.840 And I ended up being slammed to the ground by a man that was double my size.

00:28:25.620 All right, folks, we're back. 0.78

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00:29:35.440 Oh, so, all right.

00:29:36.860 Without further ado, I'm going to get Savannah 0.99

00:29:39.100 Hernandez back on here. 1.00

00:29:41.300 Human Events Daily. Savannah

00:29:43.160 from USA. Front

00:29:45.620 Not only are you talking about your experiences up in Minneapolis, but you were actually doing

00:29:53.360 live coverage of the protest of your own event while you were there. It's very bad. It's incredible.

00:29:59.880 Tell us about what happened at the Turning Point event, Sav.

00:30:03.840 Well, thank you so much for having me on, Jack. I always love coming on your show.

00:30:08.580 Well, regarding what happened at WLS this weekend, it was absolutely insane.

00:30:12.900 You know, I love going to our women's event because it's supposed to be the calmest of the year.

00:30:18.040 You know how my front lines work goes, Jack.

00:30:20.480 It's very grungy.

00:30:23.040 It is very sometimes violent.

00:30:25.040 And so the women's event is a great break for me to go and just enjoy, you know, being in the calm. 1.00

00:30:31.640 However, one of the first things that I saw when I showed up to the hotel was women dressed up as hands-made tail 1.00

00:30:37.040 that were walking through the hotel, trying to protest a lot of the attendees at WLS. 0.98

00:30:43.360 And then on top of that, we had a huge mob of people who were wearing Antifa t-shirts,

00:30:50.300 Antifa imagery that were in the street, fist fighting police officers, throwing water bottles

00:30:56.060 at them, throwing various items at them, hitting them with flagpoles. It was a very violent scene.

00:31:01.740 And again, you know, night one as well, as Erica took the stage to speak, you had a left winger

00:31:06.580 who came into the building to shout her down.

00:31:10.740 I also heard through the grapevine

00:31:12.400 that security ended up finding a cup of urine

00:31:15.040 that was left under this person's chair 0.99

00:31:17.820 after they were done screaming at Erica.

00:31:20.440 So it was one of the most contentious WLSs.

00:31:24.320 And keep in mind too, Jack,

00:31:25.720 that this is an event for women, for children,

00:31:28.740 for, again, single women who come 0.83

00:31:32.140 and will just try to go and find friends

00:31:35.400 and, again, have a relaxing weekend.

00:31:38.740 And it ended up being a very violent scene outside.

00:31:41.900 So Antifa more emboldened than ever.

00:31:44.700 And some of the chants that they were stating outside of this event,

00:31:47.800 of course, making a complete mockery of Charlie's death.

00:31:51.680 It's very clear that the left is not apologetic at all

00:31:54.920 or looking to turn down the volume,

00:31:57.080 but instead is continuing to mock Charlie's death

00:32:00.960 and now hurled death threats at every single speaker, speaker at WLS and Erica Kirk as well.

00:32:08.340 No, and I saw this and it's very clear. I've been on some other media talking about it. And it's

00:32:14.200 very clear to me that the left's program has been to destroy Turning Point USA. So that started

00:32:21.080 with taking out Charlie, which they did back on 9-10. Then it began taking away and chipping away

00:32:28.880 at the Turning Point organization. And of course, Erica, who is the new CEO of Turning Point. So if

00:32:34.760 your goal is to destroy Turning Point, what do you do? You start with Charlie, then you move to

00:32:40.080 the next CEO, then you move to the organization over and over and over. And it's systematic.

00:32:45.780 And I think that's what people need to understand. And unfortunately, when we, you know, when we try

00:32:51.820 to confront these people in good faith, when we try to engage in the debate, which of course,

00:32:57.600 Charlie uh Charlie championed having those debates there are some people who are so far to the left

00:33:03.840 and I'm speaking about those people who were reenacting the murder of Charlie that were out

00:33:08.240 there there were people who out there chanting uh for more murders and more violence and more killing

00:33:14.560 that we need to take them seriously they're not interested in debate they're interested in the

00:33:20.020 violence they're interested in using and extending these unhuman actions against all of us against

00:33:27.220 people like like charlie and erica with two little kids um and many others of us who have kids we have

00:33:34.700 families that's what they're that's what they're all about i mean sav is is that your view looking

00:33:41.000 at this when you were there absolutely and you know it's just heartbreaking jack because

00:33:47.300 i feel like a lot of us who have been in the fight after losing charlie it was such it was

00:33:53.640 a very devastating loss. And so now having to fight people on factions of both the left and

00:33:59.240 the right that are trying to tear down Turning Point USA has been very frustrating to see, 0.94

00:34:04.220 especially when we should be utilizing this energy to kick out rhinos out of the Republican Party who 0.67

00:34:10.040 are not, you know, pushing forward the mandate that we gave them. Instead, it does seem like 0.98

00:34:14.960 everybody has turned their focus on truly trying to destroy what was left of Charlie's legacy.

00:34:19.780 and again after we lost Charlie I realized more than ever that this is spiritual warfare this is

00:34:25.220 a spiritual battle but luckily you know we're continuing to push forward and we're continuing

00:34:30.640 to push forward Charlie's legacy which is what we did this last weekend and um which is what I've

00:34:36.620 been doing every single day since he's passed going out and highlighting this evil and highlighting

00:34:42.240 just how extreme various factions of the United States have become

00:34:46.200 no and unfortunately you know and and here's the thing too is when people look at these guys and

00:34:55.420 and you could see them out there you say oh look how thin their arms are and we can make fun of

00:34:59.420 them and ask talk about how cringy they are and antifa trantifa they're all so cringy and all this

00:35:04.880 here's the thing these people are willing to pick up weapons and shoot their enemies with them

00:35:10.380 because they lack the physical strength. 0.59

00:35:13.520 They lack the mental fortitude to be able to engage in any other form of activity

00:35:19.740 or any other form of discourse.

00:35:23.800 They're not interested in anything other than picking up weapons and firing them.

00:35:27.580 And you will see more people be targeted in such a manner

00:35:32.140 if they are not dealt with properly, if they are not smashed properly.

00:35:35.240 And, Seb, that's what happened to you in Minneapolis.

00:35:38.500 us. That's what happened to so many other people recently. The violence that we've seen in Newark

00:35:42.300 and other places where over and over the violence continues, it's not actually dying down. And I

00:35:48.900 predict this summer, it's going to get worse. Oh, absolutely. Jack. And again, I was outside

00:35:54.180 of the Camaro Anthony trial all last week. And what I saw were again, the seeds being planted

00:36:00.440 for again, more tape, more tension, another race war, more potential riots that could happen if

00:36:07.960 Carmelo Anthony is found guilty. Again, we're living in two separate realities with certain

00:36:14.300 factions of America who refuse to accept the truth, who refuse to accept, again, that we are

00:36:20.020 a country of law and order. And that's why as well, right, Antifa was declared a domestic

00:36:25.200 terrorist organization. And it's why so many people have been calling for them to be treated

00:36:29.340 as such. We wouldn't allow people to declare open loyalty to ISIS and then wear ISIS imagery in the

00:36:36.100 street while attacking women and children and throwing things at the police. So I don't

00:36:39.820 understand why we are allowing Antifa to do that and allowing them to continue to riot and attack

00:36:45.040 our law enforcement officers in front of ICE facilities in New Jersey, in front of WLS in

00:36:50.820 San Antonio. So again, you know, one of the things I talked about this weekend, Jack, was how I was

00:36:56.500 hoping that the left wing after Charlie's death would say, OK, you know what? We've taken things

00:37:00.860 too far. It's time to calm down and it's time to dial down the rhetoric. But no, they've only

00:37:05.360 quadrupled down on everything. And again, I watched as somebody made a paper mache head

00:37:10.880 of Charlie and came and reenacted his assassination in front of the young women who came to our event

00:37:17.200 to talk about faith, family and values. So that's what would happen. That's what happened this

00:37:22.700 weekend. And terrifying scene. I mean, I saw some of the attendees walk back into the hotel lobby

00:37:28.660 sobbing and crying, Jack, because they were confronted with real evil for the first time.

00:37:33.860 And they were I wouldn't say they weren't prepared for it, but I think they were they were quite jarred and shocked by it because they were really seeing it for the first time.

00:37:41.000 So, you know, it kind of hit me as well.

00:37:43.660 No, it's coming up on a quick break, but you're exactly right that there are some people out there who, when they haven't been out and seen this up close and personal like you have and so many others have,

00:37:54.500 they don't realize how far depraved and how far low and how disgusting these people can become, how completely and utterly unhuman they are.

00:38:08.220 Be right back.

00:38:08.940 Jack Posobiec, Sad Fernandez, Human Events Daily.

00:38:13.660 Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.

00:38:31.680 I can say confidently, I believe,

00:38:33.700 I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee

00:38:36.360 if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.

00:38:37.640 And that is, I'll be honest.

00:38:43.660 all right folks jack so big back live human events daily real america's voice for almost

00:38:50.580 savannah hernandez sav you were out there outside and inside the carmelo anthony trial where uh what

00:38:57.880 can i say it sounds like sparks were flying in both cases they're both inside and outside tell

00:39:03.640 us start with outside what did you see going on you know really with this this crowd that was out

00:39:09.480 there. Well, Jack, just to give you guys an idea of how safe the judge is trying to keep this trial,

00:39:17.640 the entire street leading up to the courthouse has been shut down. There's a curfew where nobody

00:39:22.260 can be on courthouse grounds from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. On top of that, you know, there was a strict

00:39:29.160 gag order put in place and very strict media rules regarding, you know, how this entire trial

00:39:35.020 could be covered. However, you have still had the Carmelo Anthony supporters who have shown up in

00:39:40.500 great numbers every single day of this trial. And Jack, I have covered a lot of protests. This is my

00:39:46.420 first time covering a high level trial, but I've covered a lot of protests. And this is the most

00:39:50.700 aggressive and violent rhetoric I've ever heard from a protest group. Now, the first day that I

00:39:57.660 got there, I went and I just tried to talk to them, right? Why are you guys here? Why is this

00:40:01.680 important to you and they acted like I was trying to fight them another local reporter went up to

00:40:07.760 this same group tapped one of the leaders of the chants on the shoulder and keep in mind they're

00:40:12.620 chanting things like we decree Carmelo Anthony will be free we have to protect our black youth

00:40:19.120 to essentially everybody in the Carmelo group stating that he is unequivocally innocent none

00:40:24.700 of them are following the trial none of them are following the facts of this case but they are

00:40:28.700 outside of this trial every single day, stating that Carmelo Anthony is undoubtedly without,

00:40:34.780 you know, without any look into the trial, he's innocent. That is what these people believe.

00:40:41.160 They've been very aggressive with the media. They will not speak to anybody that they deem

00:40:46.240 unfriendly media, which is basically everyone. Last week, you did have a veteran who showed up

00:40:52.100 in a wheelchair, right? He had a couple of flags flying, multiple American flags, one Confederate

00:40:57.200 flag. This resulted in members of the Carmelo supporters stating that if they were close enough

00:41:02.760 to him, they would push him into the grave, that he was going to be the next Metcalf, and that he

00:41:07.340 was going to be pushing up daisies, and that the only good cracker is a dead cracker. So this is 0.58

00:41:12.700 some of the rhetoric that is happening outside of the Carmelo-Anthony trial, and it was very

00:41:18.300 jarring to witness, Jack, because again, I've covered all sorts of protests, and typically you

00:41:22.700 can at least have a conversation with these protesters to understand where their mindset is

00:41:26.560 at. But with these guys, they will not speak to people. They will not explain why they think

00:41:32.120 Carmelo is innocent. I was able to get a first interview with one of them. And I basically asked,

00:41:38.780 hey, will the black community accept evidence if it shows that Carmelo Anthony actually didn't act

00:41:44.440 in self-defense and that he did stab Austin Metcalf and committed a murder? Would they accept that?

00:41:50.400 And this woman's basically stated that we are going to stand with ours regardless of what the

00:41:54.860 evidence states. And then I was able to speak to another man who called himself a minister.

00:42:00.220 And he basically stated that he was outside of the courthouse praying because what this courthouse

00:42:06.380 represented was legalized racism. So a little idea of what's happening outside of the courthouse.

00:42:13.000 You also have Dominique Alexander, who's been a spokesperson for this family. Let's keep in mind

00:42:18.380 that he is, you know, somebody who has been at the forefront of pushing racial tensions

00:42:24.680 and utilizing high profile cases like this one and twisting and distorting the facts

00:42:29.620 to make it seem like Carmelo Anthony is simply being prosecuted because he's black.

00:42:36.060 Well, and Sav, so you've been also covering the inside of the courtroom,

00:42:40.520 wanted to give us, you know, what's your take on the latest there?

00:42:43.200 I also, and I was talking with Viva Frye as well, that a number of the witnesses

00:42:46.920 who have testified on behalf of the prosecution to testify against Carmelo Anthony are themselves

00:42:53.320 black, including the coach, including many of his teammates. So it really doesn't seem

00:42:57.880 like on the face of this, this was a a racial incident, at least from Austin Metcalf side.

00:43:05.020 And of course, I would point out as well that for those protesters saying that, oh, well,

00:43:09.280 he was only asked to leave because he was black, that clearly Austin Metcalf did not ask any of

00:43:14.980 his black teammates to leave the tent either. Exactly, Jack. Again, you have bad actors that 0.63

00:43:23.300 are outside of this trial that are trying to essentially spread a fake narrative regarding

00:43:28.680 what is going on with this. This has nothing to do with race, and it has everything to do with

00:43:36.400 the fact that Carmelo should not have been there to begin with. Again, one of the first things that

00:43:41.760 I noticed when I was inside for jury proceedings is how Carmelo Anthony shaved his head, which gave

00:43:48.740 him an even more youthful appearance. I do feel that the defense is doing everything in their

00:43:53.020 power to try to make him look as young and as innocent as possible in this case. Because again,

00:43:58.400 you know, they've called up witnesses and it doesn't seem like they have been able to make

00:44:02.440 that self-defense argument very well. You know, another thing the defense is going to try to bring

00:44:06.860 up is that Texas is a stand your ground state. However, that argument has completely fallen

00:44:11.300 apart. So a little idea of what it's been like inside and outside. Also, it's kind of some

00:44:18.780 details that I was hearing regarding how quickly the judge wants this to be wrapped up. They're

00:44:23.820 hoping to have this trial wrapped up by June 12th. I heard this from law enforcement sources on the

00:44:28.160 scene, which is why we saw a Saturday proceeding. That's not typical. However, this judge really

00:44:33.960 wants this to be done very quickly. And there's also what I'm hearing going to be no plan breaks

00:44:39.460 before closing arguments. And the judge is also prepared to keep, you know, these trials in

00:44:44.340 session until 6 p.m. every single day because they want this process moving as quickly as

00:44:49.140 possible. So a little idea there from from on the ground. Well, that's that's incredible. That's

00:44:56.020 that's, by the way, incredible exclusive there about pushing forward. And in fact, that would

00:45:01.120 explain why they had this Saturday of testimony, which is something that, you know, having covered

00:45:05.080 trials at the federal level, state level. Just I wasn't I hadn't been expecting myself. But given

00:45:10.520 that time frame, that does make sense. I'm looking at the evidence to your mind is you've been in a

00:45:17.520 number of incidents involving violence. You've never provoked one of them at all in your life.

00:45:23.560 And yet in this instance, that's the very question that's being decided when you're looking at the

00:45:31.180 different pieces of evidence that have put out the deferring narratives that have come up.

00:45:34.520 Have you seen evidence that shows that Austin Metcalf provoked this provoked this situation or was it, in fact, Carmelo Anthony?

00:45:43.580 You know, Jack, every single witness that's come forward to the stand has stated.

00:45:48.620 And again, this is not my opinion. This is the facts.

00:45:51.740 This is what the witnesses are stating, that it was Carmelo Anthony that provoked Austin Metcalf.

00:45:57.780 It was Carmelo Anthony who was asked to leave 15 times.

00:46:01.640 It was Carmelo Anthony that provoked Metcalf. And it's just, like I said, frustrating because you still have people outside of this courthouse that do not care about facts of the case and are trying to spin this into a racial thing.

00:46:16.440 And one of the first ways they did this was by stating that this is an unfair trial because there are no Black jurors that are seated.

00:46:25.700 However, let's keep in mind, there's a very heavily Hispanic and Asian population up in this northern part of Texas.

00:46:32.200 So that doesn't mean that there are no minorities on the jury. It just simply means there are no Black jurors.

00:46:36.960 And of course, those jurors were struck for a reason. This is how the legal process plays out. 0.92

00:46:40.740 However, Dominique Alexander has, again, been pushing this narrative that Carmelo Anthony is not getting a fair trial because he's black, that the legal system is racist, that he's been fighting white supremacy since day one, despite the fact that Anthony and his family were able to raise half a million dollars, despite the fact that a judge lowered his $1 million bond to $250,000 after he cited financial difficulties, and then it was found out that the family was living in an almost $1 million home.

00:47:09.160 the facts of this case show that race has nothing to do with this white supremacy has nothing to do

00:47:14.680 with this the facts of the case show that carmelo anthony was the aggressor and that he very much

00:47:20.100 seems to be the one at fault here all of the witnesses you know their story is the same they're

00:47:24.960 all corroborating one another and it really does seem like the defense is uh not having a good time

00:47:30.580 in this so we will see what ends up happening um and what the verdict is later this week of course

00:47:35.860 that's up to the jury jack. But from what I'm seeing, what everybody is seeing in the facts

00:47:40.260 of this case, it very much seems like Carmelo Anthony was in the wrong here.

00:47:45.500 Well, we will certainly be following this and through the end of the week. Sav,

00:47:50.280 where can people follow you? Go follow me on Axe at Sav Says and YouTube at Sav Says as well.

00:47:56.940 All right, Sav. Thank you so much for being on. And as always, make sure you stay safe out there.

00:48:01.820 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:48:05.860 We'll be right back.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 08, 2026

THE KARMELO ANTHONY DEFENSE IS CRASHING AND BURNING IN COURT

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