Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Latest On Jeffrey Epstein, Israel and Syria, and H1B

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00:00:50.240 Christ is king.

00:00:51.820 This morning, House lawmakers are racing back to Washington for a vote to reopen the government.

00:00:56.880 Am I on my way to Washington, D.C.?

00:00:58.820 Lawmakers have been out of town for 54 days.

00:01:01.900 If all members get back in time, Republicans can only afford to lose two votes.

00:01:06.420 The president confident they'll get it over the finish line.

00:01:09.080 The House is going to vote, and I think they're going to vote positively.

00:01:12.780 I think most people want to see it open.

00:01:14.580 The president was gracious enough to give us an exclusive tour of the new White House renovations.

00:01:19.380 New ballroom will go from here to there, and you'll see a proper number of people, and the White House will finally have, after 150 years, the ballroom that they wanted.

00:01:29.700 The public is paying for absolutely nothing.

00:01:32.140 It's all being done by donors.

00:01:33.440 Without tariffs, we would be, this country would be in such trouble, as they were for many years.

00:01:38.660 That's why we owe $38 trillion.

00:01:40.140 And one of the things we're going to do, we're going to issue a dividend to our middle-income people and lower-income people, about $2,000.

00:01:49.640 And we're going to use the remaining tariffs to lower our debt.

00:01:52.880 We're going to be lowering our debt, which is a national security thing.

00:01:55.640 So we're doing a lot of good work.

00:01:58.600 And the numbers were reported so incorrectly.

00:02:01.240 The real numbers are trillions of dollars have been taken in or gotten in terms of investment from the tariffs.

00:02:09.840 And so if that were ever reversed, it would be a disaster.

00:02:13.060 Frankly, it would be a national security problem for our country.

00:02:16.220 Of the three people arrested, we're learning just one was actually a Berkeley student.

00:02:20.680 That student has now been cited and released.

00:02:22.880 The other two are facing charges ranging from trespassing to battery.

00:02:27.400 Meantime, the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division is now looking into what happened here on campus last night.

00:02:35.060 Demonstrators made it clear they opposed Turning Point USA's final tour stop, which drew an estimated 900 attendees to campus.

00:02:44.920 ABC 7 News cameras captured two people being taken into custody.

00:02:48.560 Witnesses say one man, seen with a bloody face, was assaulted for selling Turning Point merchandise.

00:02:54.320 Berkeley police say he was determined to be the victim and let go.

00:02:57.720 The other man charged with robbery and battery.

00:03:01.960 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:03:05.960 We're here live on Real America's Voice.

00:03:09.020 Today is November 12, 2025.

00:03:12.140 Anno Domini.

00:03:13.220 And folks, as we sit here, we are on assignment today.

00:03:16.620 But as we sit here, there's a lot of stuff going in through the airwaves, a lot of stuff going out there in the information environment.

00:03:24.760 And look, I've been looking at it.

00:03:26.080 There's a lot of anger.

00:03:26.960 And I see anger on both sides.

00:03:28.280 I see people who are angry on the left who want to kill us, who attacked our students, hundreds of our students and their family members.

00:03:36.340 At the Turning Point event with UC Berkeley, with Rob Schneider. 0.51

00:03:40.400 Apparently, Deuce Bigelow is an arch-fascist now.

00:03:43.380 I didn't know that was someone who was driving the left completely nuts.

00:03:47.620 But understand, it's not about Rob Schneider or Deuce Bigelow or Turning Point or any of this. 0.90

00:03:52.980 It's about they hate us and they want to kill us. 0.99

00:03:58.920 They want to kill our children. 1.00

00:04:01.080 Or they want to turn our children into orphans.

00:04:04.340 Orphans, they look at the horrific things that they did to Charlie Kirk's family and they say, that's a good start. 0.98

00:04:12.900 They say they want more.

00:04:15.020 They want to create more situations like that.

00:04:18.240 They want my children to be in a situation where they will never see their father again.

00:04:23.720 They're going after many family members.

00:04:26.380 Other people who, I'll just say there's some stories that are going to be coming out very soon.

00:04:31.620 They're not my stories to tell, so I'm not going to share them, but other members of conservative media have had to deal with personal threats to their lives and to their families in the last few days.

00:04:41.960 Fortunately, I believe the situation is over, you may have seen some of this online involving my colleagues, both Kat Turd and Matt Walsh and their story to tell.

00:04:53.560 Well, I know some of the details there, but when they do, you will see just how violent and how serious the left is in this country.

00:05:02.900 We're also seeing anger on the right.

00:05:05.180 People saying, I don't want more H-1Bs. 1.00

00:05:08.500 People saying, I want American citizens to come first, always. 0.99

00:05:14.740 We're going to talk about that as well.

00:05:16.220 And there's also new emails out, Jeffrey Epstein emails.

00:05:21.220 We're going to get into those as well in the next segment here.

00:05:26.000 We've got a guest that we're going to be visiting with and that we're going to be going through in detail.

00:05:30.540 Because here's, you know, and people want to say, oh, Posobiec, you know, you know, how come, you know, how come you took that binder from Pam Bondi and, you know, you never, you never, you never show it was in it.

00:05:41.800 But first of all, I've said this story a million times on the Piers Morgan show.

00:05:45.460 I've talked about the binder.

00:05:46.620 I've always answered every single question everyone's ever asked about this.

00:05:50.100 But then I still get people saying, how come you don't talk about it?

00:05:52.240 So I've talked about it a million times.

00:05:53.660 And I even went at the last turning point that I ever did with Charlie and gave an entire speech about it.

00:06:00.760 So here it goes.

00:06:01.880 When new stuff comes out on Jeffrey Epstein, I've always said, I want to talk about all of it.

00:06:07.200 I want to talk about all of it.

00:06:09.740 And we're going to do that today.

00:06:10.700 And I don't care if it involves the former Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak.

00:06:14.920 I don't care if it talks about intelligence connections.

00:06:17.200 I don't care what connections it talks about.

00:06:20.040 And the allegations today is that they were talking about Trump.

00:06:24.220 Ooh.

00:06:24.940 All right.

00:06:25.560 We're going to talk about that.

00:06:26.940 Because we covered the Ghislaine Maxwell trial here on Human Events Daily in full.

00:06:32.300 We covered the first Jeffrey Epstein, the trial that never came to be because he died in prison under mysterious circumstances, shall we say.

00:06:40.700 We covered it in full.

00:06:42.720 And so we will always cover every piece of new information in full.

00:06:46.880 And when we get new information, I'm more than happy to cover it and let the chips fall where they may.

00:06:53.980 But at the same time, we are going to be rigorous, we are going to be fact-based, and we are going to put it within the context of all the other evidence.

00:07:02.340 That's what's called an investigation, boys and girls.

00:07:06.560 So lock in because we're locked in here on Human Events Daily.

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00:09:05.360 All right, very excited to be joined here on location with the very honorable, that's true, honorable, right?

00:09:13.100 Honorable Navy Marine Corps veteran, Navy EOD officer, former, the CEO of the MacArthur Group, my buddy Tom Sauer.

00:09:22.980 What's up, Tom?

00:09:23.400 What's up, man?

00:09:24.120 Thanks for having me, man.

00:09:24.780 Appreciate it.

00:09:25.060 So, Tom, people, you know, and just by way of introduction, people don't actually realize that, you know, they may have seen you, right-wing figure, right?

00:09:32.320 Right-wing figure in the Atlantic.

00:09:33.480 Right-wing figure in the Atlantic magazine, that we actually served together in the Navy.

00:09:37.380 We did.

00:09:37.840 You were one of the intel guys out of EOD Mobino 5 in Guam.

00:09:40.880 And I remember I talked to the Atlantic writer for, like, almost two hours, and he put one snippet in there because he couldn't find anything negative about you on that.

00:09:48.740 We try. You know, they try. They, you know, the ops persist, but so do I.

00:09:54.080 The ops persist, but so do I.

00:09:55.580 So, yeah, we served together in EOD Mobile Unit 5 in, back when they called it PACOM, now it's Indo-PACOM.

00:10:02.140 Correct.

00:10:02.380 Under 7th Fleet, and Mobile Unit 5, you know, I mean, obviously we can talk some of it publicly, not a lot, but the goal was to focus on Asia Pacific.

00:10:12.040 Absolutely.

00:10:12.640 And countering Chinese Communist Party influence in the region.

00:10:15.800 100%. Yeah, everything from mine warfare, you know, protecting ports and mines, and anything we had to deal with, whether we had to respond to something happening somewhere in the region,

00:10:24.060 maybe a particular island that's very important to U.S. interests, or maybe a certain peninsula, like Korea.

00:10:29.980 It would logically follow that if we were in the South China Sea area, the AOR, that there would be places pertaining to that that we may have focused on.

00:10:41.040 Or if we were near places like, I don't know, Korea or Japan, which I know because I can see them on maps.

00:10:46.620 Right.

00:10:47.000 And I'm not basing this off of any classified information that I may or may not know, that I could see that if there was a unit that was stationed in that area, that perhaps they may be interested in that as well.

00:10:56.420 That's absolutely right. Forward deployed.

00:10:57.920 Perhaps.

00:10:58.500 Perhaps.

00:10:58.920 Perhaps.

00:10:59.320 Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:00.460 Perhaps. But, Tom, so I wanted to get into it with you just by way of background, because we do have this breaking news on, you know, on something that has nothing to do with veterans, but I do want to pull that up in a minute.

00:11:10.040 That's all right.

00:11:10.360 It has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And there's new emails that have come out between, I believe it's Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:11:20.180 And so I've been looking through these just as we've gone to Showtime here, and I'm looking at them.

00:11:25.360 I see the Democrats are putting it out, Oversight Democrats. They received new emails.

00:11:30.120 They put it out a couple of hours ago. And believe it or not, they mentioned Donald Trump in these messages.

00:11:36.620 So, you know, and before we get into it directly, what's kind of been your read on the Trump-Epstein thing?

00:11:45.360 Just as someone who's not a member of the administration, someone who kind of looks at it, you're obviously involved in the veteran community, you're involved in special forces community.

00:11:54.880 What's kind of the read there?

00:11:56.180 Well, I think what it just comes down to is that, obviously, Jeffrey Epstein was trying very hard to get his claws into Donald Trump for years, had been, but was largely unsuccessful.

00:12:08.320 I mean, I think Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago because he's getting a little frisky with one of the young female staffers there, right?

00:12:14.140 And I think he's been trying for a while.

00:12:16.100 And now you see this stuff that's coming out now, and it really just looks like, what are they really doing?

00:12:20.840 Like, they're trying to somehow, like, hang this around his neck, but there's no connection there.

00:12:25.000 These emails suggest something about Trump.

00:12:27.100 Like, they're trying.

00:12:27.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:28.420 Let's get into it.

00:12:29.140 Let's get into that.

00:12:29.720 But you're right.

00:12:30.640 It looked for years that Epstein was trying to use Trump and use his name, and we're doing this on the fly.

00:12:36.840 We've got a little power issue that we're trying to, we're going to make sure that doesn't become an issue.

00:12:40.440 Right.

00:12:41.000 But he was always trying to ingratiate himself into Trump's circle, which is always his MO.

00:12:47.540 Anybody rich, powerful, influential?

00:12:48.820 Rich, powerful, influential, he would ingratiate himself.

00:12:51.920 And now we see, because, and I'll talk about it in a second, but some of these emails pertain to when Trump was running for office the first time,

00:12:59.640 how Jeffrey Epstein was trying to, once again, ingratiate himself.

00:13:02.860 Now he's already had legal troubles at that point.

00:13:04.700 Yep.

00:13:04.840 So just to put it in my way of context, but let's see.

00:13:07.100 Here's probably, and I just want to drive into it in the first instance, here's probably the most, what I think is going to be the most controversial one, just looking at it.

00:13:16.960 It says, so these are emails between Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:13:21.720 Right.

00:13:22.020 She had a very top secret email address called G-Max.

00:13:25.860 Get it?

00:13:26.300 Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:13:27.380 It's a good name.

00:13:28.380 I know, right?

00:13:28.820 So it says, here's what he's saying, in 2011, now 2011, you go back, and I have to look up the exact date, but this is when police were coming after him the first time.

00:13:37.760 And this is when, actually, Mueller was one of the people who was running the FBI operation.

00:13:41.920 Right.

00:13:42.020 And there was no federal charges that time around.

00:13:44.460 Very strange.

00:13:45.340 No federal charges.

00:13:46.140 This is what Alex Acosta got, the first labor secretary, got rolled up in because they said, why didn't you charge this guy?

00:13:51.920 He's doing this, but he ends up getting Florida charges.

00:13:55.760 He gets the state charges for prostitution.

00:13:57.520 He gets this sweetheart deal.

00:13:58.760 Yeah, I think he was, like, going home every night or something.

00:14:00.380 He was going home every night.

00:14:01.520 He was living in the West Palm Sheriff's, it was basically a sheriff's station.

00:14:05.120 He was, like, locked up, but he could go, no, no, no, no.

00:14:07.720 He could go home during the day, but he had to spend the night there.

00:14:10.500 Oh, no, it seemed easier.

00:14:11.540 And so here's the email.

00:14:13.340 It's Saturday, April 2nd.

00:14:15.440 Jeffrey Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell says,

00:14:17.120 I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump.

00:14:22.640 It blanks out the name, and it says,

00:14:24.400 Victim spent hours at my house with him.

00:14:27.280 He has never once been mentioned.

00:14:29.280 Police, chief, et cetera.

00:14:30.980 I'm 75% there.

00:14:33.760 Ghislaine Maxwell responds, I have been thinking about that.

00:14:36.700 Yep.

00:14:36.900 So people have gone in and looked at it and said,

00:14:40.160 well, the 2018 situation had to do with Virginia Giffray.

00:14:46.140 And so people like Technofog and people like our friend Greg Price have put out and said,

00:14:53.120 no, he's incredible.

00:14:53.720 He's the best at what he does.

00:14:55.400 And they have the responses from Ghislaine Maxwell's contemporaneous testimony,

00:15:01.980 because she, of course, came out publicly as the victim there and said, right here,

00:15:06.780 he didn't partake in any sex with any of us, but he flirted with me.

00:15:11.660 And it's, actually, correction, they claimed that at the time.

00:15:18.140 She says in her testimony, I want to just fix that.

00:15:21.520 She says, it's not true that he flirted with me.

00:15:24.840 Donald Trump never flirted with me.

00:15:27.160 He didn't partake in any sex with us.

00:15:29.800 And then they say, where did you meet him?

00:15:31.320 And she said, Virginia Giffray, at Mar-a-Lago.

00:15:33.640 My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends,

00:15:35.620 but my dad knew him and they would talk.

00:15:37.200 Not all the time, but when they saw each other.

00:15:39.660 Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?

00:15:44.840 Answer, Virginia Giffray, no.

00:15:47.160 Right.

00:15:47.620 So they asked her about this when she was on her own testifying.

00:15:51.400 Right.

00:15:51.500 So she would have had every, quote unquote, incentive.

00:15:54.560 She would have.

00:15:55.020 To come out forward if something were true.

00:15:56.940 Right.

00:15:57.260 She did not.

00:15:58.480 And it looks like here, these emails are just coming from Michael Wolff was pushing,

00:16:02.060 putting all these things out.

00:16:03.020 And he was really trying.

00:16:03.900 This is the next.

00:16:04.800 Yeah.

00:16:04.920 So Epstein.

00:16:05.820 So Wolff is the next one.

00:16:07.060 So that was the first email in 2011.

00:16:08.760 Right.

00:16:09.160 Where it's just Epstein and Virginia Giffray.

00:16:12.080 But you can see, it seems like he's trying to get Donald Trump rolled up into the investigation.

00:16:17.180 But then you go back to the actual victim.

00:16:19.340 They did ask her about Donald Trump.

00:16:20.980 Yeah.

00:16:21.480 And so he's saying, so Epstein, because he doesn't know what the police are asking.

00:16:25.500 They're saying, wait a minute.

00:16:26.300 How come they didn't talk to Trump?

00:16:27.680 Well, they asked her about Trump and she said Trump wasn't involved.

00:16:30.780 There you go.

00:16:31.300 It's over.

00:16:31.780 So what else is there?

00:16:32.620 If you're running an investigation, you can't just go, if someone tells you this guy wasn't

00:16:36.620 involved, I mean, sure, you can go and talk to him.

00:16:38.680 And we do know that Trump actually went to lawyers that were running this and said, please

00:16:43.380 let me know whatever I can do to help you with Jeffrey Epstein because I'm more than

00:16:46.720 willing to tell you whatever.

00:16:47.740 He'd already kicked him out of the East.

00:16:48.720 I think some of those investigators went out of their way to say he was actually the most

00:16:53.540 cooperative.

00:16:54.220 Right.

00:16:54.580 You got to phone me and say, hey, how can I help you guys?

00:16:56.260 What can I do?

00:16:56.720 It's amazing.

00:16:57.280 Call me.

00:16:57.500 You got my number.

00:16:58.160 Clearly just wrong here.

00:16:59.280 Right.

00:16:59.660 But on the merits, this is the real question to say, because he said they spent hours together,

00:17:05.960 right?

00:17:06.200 Yeah.

00:17:06.380 That's the allegation.

00:17:07.660 Pulling it up again.

00:17:08.720 Spent hours at my home with him.

00:17:11.500 And she said, no, we didn't.

00:17:13.720 Right.

00:17:14.100 And she had no reason to lie.

00:17:16.040 So right there.

00:17:16.720 This is what, 2015?

00:17:18.960 That was 2011.

00:17:19.800 2011.

00:17:20.220 So that's, I think what he was trying to do is, again, just get Trump rolled up in it

00:17:24.580 so that, oh, if you're coming after me, you got to go after him.

00:17:27.660 And then that obviously makes it much more high profile.

00:17:30.640 Absolutely.

00:17:30.940 It's got Trump's money involved, et cetera, et cetera.

00:17:32.840 Then you got 2015.

00:17:35.260 That's where Michael Wolff starts sending these emails.

00:17:38.400 And Michael Wolff is this, he's kind of a gossip blogger who just writes books.

00:17:43.200 And I've met him.

00:17:45.000 I've seen him around.

00:17:46.160 I've seen him around.

00:17:46.620 He does, yeah.

00:17:47.340 He just takes rumors and he takes oppo and he just prints it.

00:17:51.840 Because he only checks out.

00:17:53.020 Oh, gosh.

00:17:54.320 Now we're busted.

00:17:54.980 We've got about a minute left.

00:17:56.000 But I'll say that then in those emails, and let's do it, actually.

00:18:00.040 I see that he was sending these emails on my birthday, December 15th.

00:18:03.160 Nice.

00:18:03.400 That once again, this is when Trump was running for office.

00:18:07.560 And then again in 2019, when Epstein is about to be arrested the second time.

00:18:15.480 Now he's talking to Wolff again, once again, get Trump involved, get Trump in there, try to figure out ways to enwrap Trump in all of this.

00:18:25.220 Because that's what they want to do.

00:18:26.840 Right.

00:18:27.180 They want to make it as if Trump was a part of this operation.

00:18:31.520 Trump was part of the network in order to either hurt, and the one is 2015, so they're trying to hurt him for the campaign.

00:18:39.580 Or on the other side, they said, oh, but Epstein could actually help you by saying that you weren't involved and then maybe he'll owe you.

00:18:46.340 So that's Wolff saying that, he's just telling, he isn't even asking him what the truth is.

00:18:51.620 It's just.

00:18:52.460 Well, they're just running off over the church.

00:18:53.360 He's not even asking, but he's not even asking what the truth is.

00:18:55.980 Yeah.

00:18:56.180 So what kind of journalist, if you're just trying to get the truth, why would you ever say that to a source?

00:19:01.260 You don't hate journalists enough.

00:19:02.600 It actually sounds like a staffer.

00:19:04.460 Could be.

00:19:05.060 It actually sounds like a staffing relationship.

00:19:06.620 We're going to get back to this new Jeffrey Epstein emails, Jack Posobiec, Tom Sauer.

00:19:11.020 Stay tuned.

00:19:16.340 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:19:20.520 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec.

00:19:26.260 Where's Jack?

00:19:27.220 Jack.

00:19:28.180 He's done a great job.

00:19:32.700 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back here live with Tom Sauer, Navy EOD veteran officer, also a Marine veteran.

00:19:41.320 And we're going through these Jeffrey Epstein emails together, the same way that, you know,

00:19:45.840 when we were in the Navy.

00:19:47.080 We might go through some hot intel, you know, and try to figure it out together.

00:19:50.720 So this next email, it's with Michael Wolff.

00:19:55.120 And he says, I hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you.

00:20:02.080 This is 2015, on my birthday, December 15th.

00:20:04.800 Epstein responds, if we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be?

00:20:10.720 And this is really strange, because this is not the type of communication that you'd have with a reporter.

00:20:18.000 No, it's somebody doing oppo research.

00:20:19.640 That's what they're doing, it seems.

00:20:20.900 Yeah, but not only that, it's they seem to be, he's being interactive with Epstein.

00:20:26.840 Yeah.

00:20:27.120 He's not asking Epstein, hey, what's the truth of your relationship with Donald Trump?

00:20:31.560 Right.

00:20:31.680 He's saying, he's going, Epstein's going to him and saying, how can I profit off of this?

00:20:35.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:36.440 How can I turn this into the best use for me?

00:20:38.500 And Wolff responds to him.

00:20:40.160 Yes.

00:20:40.500 And says, I mean, just from a journalistic perspective, this is really bad.

00:20:45.120 Right.

00:20:45.320 Not that I think that anyone thought that he was, like, a serious journalist, but this is really bad.

00:20:49.400 You're breaking, like, every code of journalistic ethics.

00:20:51.680 Right. 0.98

00:20:51.880 He's saying, and Wolff says, I think you should let him hang himself.

00:20:58.540 If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the House, then that gives you valuable PR and political currency. 0.90

00:21:04.660 You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.

00:21:08.340 Or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt.

00:21:12.360 Of course, it's possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime.

00:21:20.200 So he's, and by the way, Michael Wolff emails this to Epstein and says, heads up and marks it high importance.

00:21:28.920 Right.

00:21:29.320 And that doesn't sound to me like anybody who's a journalist.

00:21:31.900 That sounds to me like a political operative.

00:21:33.980 Yeah.

00:21:34.420 I mean, that's what that is straight up right there.

00:21:36.200 I mean, well, but then, of course, we're talking about journalists.

00:21:38.320 You know, it's kind of one of the same a lot.

00:21:39.900 I read this, honestly, I read this email and it doesn't give me questions about Trump's relationship with Epstein.

00:21:46.120 I have more questions about Wolff's relationship with Epstein.

00:21:49.580 Looking at this because it's like, it's like, I mean, I don't know, but right.

00:21:54.220 You know, he knew how to party apparently, you know, obviously we could ask a lot of questions, but it just, it doesn't read to me like what, you know, would you be willing to share with me the details of your relationship so that I can report them?

00:22:09.380 He's not saying that he's, he's giving him the heads up.

00:22:12.920 I mean, it's, it's very, it's very strange.

00:22:15.100 Yeah.

00:22:15.560 And also this is, and this is also what, 2015?

00:22:17.980 That's 2015.

00:22:18.820 Right.

00:22:19.020 This is right when Trump campaign's starting.

00:22:20.900 It's like they threw as much stuff on the wall to see what would stick.

00:22:23.940 And, you know, it looked like there was kind of a dead end here with the Epstein stuff.

00:22:27.480 But hey, you know, they got traction with the Russia hoax.

00:22:29.860 They sure did.

00:22:30.320 They got a lot of traction with that.

00:22:31.680 So this was, this was prior to, the Russia hoax hasn't even really been invented at this point.

00:22:35.640 Maybe it's, you know, maybe they're kind of kicking it around over at DNI with Tapper and Brennan or just saying, ah, maybe we can tie him to Russia.

00:22:44.040 Maybe we'll do that.

00:22:44.820 No, that's it.

00:22:45.240 And, and of course, you got to think they didn't want to bring up Epstein that much.

00:22:48.400 Why?

00:22:49.080 Because he was in before all that.

00:22:50.460 Because who was he running against?

00:22:51.540 Right.

00:22:52.020 Because he was running against Hillary Clinton.

00:22:53.480 Right.

00:22:53.620 So if you bring up Epstein, you're going to get, you know, you're going to get that, that two for a hit.

00:22:57.400 So let's go, so they go to Russia instead. 0.86

00:23:00.960 They did.

00:23:01.340 That's a good point, actually.

00:23:01.980 Yeah.

00:23:02.200 See, this is why we, you know.

00:23:05.660 Then 2019.

00:23:06.920 So this is when he's facing his next and what would ultimately be his final arrest.

00:23:11.640 Right.

00:23:11.860 January 2019, Trump's in office.

00:23:13.780 He's become president.

00:23:14.480 He's been president for a few years.

00:23:16.360 Just, actually, just about two years and a couple of weeks at this point.

00:23:19.200 And it says blank, Mar-a-Lago, blank.

00:23:23.340 Trump said he asked me to resign.

00:23:27.260 Never a member ever.

00:23:29.400 Of course he knew about the girls.

00:23:31.600 He asked Ghislaine to stop.

00:23:35.280 And, you know, we don't know exactly what the response is to that.

00:23:43.760 We do know that that's around the time that, you know, he was facing another arrest.

00:23:49.000 Yep.

00:23:49.240 And we do know a time where it does seem like he's talking about Virginia Giuffre.

00:23:55.980 And I'm just going to say my read on this, my read on this is that, and it's just true.

00:24:02.980 Ghislaine, where did Ghislaine Maxwell, because I've studied the case, where did Ghislaine Maxwell meet Virginia Giuffre?

00:24:08.340 At Mar-a-Lago.

00:24:09.480 Right.

00:24:09.680 She was one of the spa girls. 0.99

00:24:10.920 Yep.

00:24:11.060 So she met her down there.

00:24:12.220 She was the daughter of a member.

00:24:13.960 And she was working there.

00:24:16.960 And Ghislaine Maxwell, what made Trump really upset is that Ghislaine Maxwell had been poaching employees from Mar-a-Lago.

00:24:26.640 Right.

00:24:26.960 By going to them and saying, oh, you know, you work here.

00:24:30.280 Would you like some, why don't you come work in private?

00:24:32.560 You won't have to work a shift.

00:24:34.160 We can just, you can just come work for my client, Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.

00:24:37.700 Right.

00:24:37.880 And you can, he'll be your sole client and will pay you more than Mar-a-Lago does.

00:24:42.580 So she goes and poaches the employee. 1.00

00:24:45.440 And so.

00:24:45.860 To a teenage girl, that's a good deal.

00:24:47.280 And so when I read this, when I read this thing about, you know, this thing about, you know, we don't, and we don't, unless I'm pulling it up, I don't see any other, you know, chain here.

00:24:57.640 I just see the one email.

00:24:58.560 So I don't know what he's responding to.

00:25:00.360 So.

00:25:01.660 Which is a tell, by the way.

00:25:02.960 Which is, yeah, why wouldn't, that's a, that's a great tell.

00:25:05.300 Why would you not have released the full chain of emails, Democrats?

00:25:09.400 Why wouldn't you give me all the information?

00:25:11.380 You're selectively making it look like something is edited so that you can't give me the question he's responding to.

00:25:19.380 And so this is an email without any context.

00:25:23.180 Right.

00:25:23.280 And it says, of course he knew about the girls he asked Jelaine to stop.

00:25:26.880 Well, the question that I would have is, could he have just been asking about poaching employees?

00:25:33.600 Very well could have been.

00:25:34.360 Because we know that's something that, by the way, the Democrats already reported themselves.

00:25:39.540 Right.

00:25:39.980 In other leaks.

00:25:41.080 That was his MO.

00:25:41.860 And that's also, correct me if I'm wrong, that's part of the reason why Epstein got kicked out of Mar-a-Lago, right?

00:25:45.860 It's because he was getting a little too frisky with some of the girls.

00:25:48.540 A little too frisky and also because he was poaching.

00:25:51.020 Yeah.

00:25:51.460 And so, you know, it's, it's obviously something you don't do.

00:25:55.120 Obviously it's something that, excuse me, it's something that would certainly annoy him very much.

00:26:00.540 It's because you're stealing my employees and you find, you find a good employee or you're at the middle of the season, you know, and it's something you want out.

00:26:06.300 No, that being said, I'm, I'm more than willing to entertain that, that he could have asked, he could have been talking about something else.

00:26:12.960 Sure.

00:26:13.200 But we don't know that because they didn't release the other email.

00:26:16.020 Exactly.

00:26:16.400 And that, that's the difference with what you do here compared to what any, any of the clowns over like CNN or SNBC, all they do is they tell you, they say, here's this email and it suggests Trump knew about all these things.

00:26:27.320 And instead here, you know, we go through like, well, what did the emails actually say?

00:26:31.360 Let's go to the primary source documents.

00:26:32.280 Because you still have to, you still have to come up to the question of why didn't Virginia Jaffray in her own testimony say that she had done these things with Trump if this were all true.

00:26:42.700 Right.

00:26:43.040 So once again, ultimately, it's just Epstein trying to pull Trump in and implicate him in his own crimes.

00:26:51.120 Jack Posobiec, Tom Sauer, we are here going through the Epstein emails on Human Events.

00:26:57.160 We'll be right back for the Microsports.

00:27:06.900 Hey, Jack, where is Jack?

00:27:09.920 Where is Jack?

00:27:11.080 Where is he?

00:27:13.600 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:17.240 Great job, Jack.

00:27:18.660 Thank you.

00:27:19.420 What a job you do.

00:27:20.840 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:27:22.220 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who'll be getting pull issues.

00:27:27.980 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live here at Human Events Daily.

00:27:33.920 We're on location with Tom Sauer today on Real America's Voice.

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00:29:03.640 So, Tom, I wanted to get in.

00:29:05.340 And, you know, we're on DropSite News.

00:29:07.520 That's Ryan Grimm.

00:29:08.840 And he's not a conservative by any stretch.

00:29:11.600 No, not at all.

00:29:12.480 You know, I've done some stuff with him.

00:29:14.420 I had a debate with the libertarian presidential candidate last year, Chase Oliver, on Zero Hedge.

00:29:19.300 And Ryan Grimm was one of the moderators.

00:29:21.080 And I thought he did a great job.

00:29:22.500 And he and I did not exactly see eye to eye on how to deal with the narco terrorists. 0.90

00:29:27.680 Right.

00:29:27.860 And I actually remember specifically saying to him in the middle of that interview, he said, what would you do with them? 1.00

00:29:32.340 And I said, well, Ryan, I propose we kill them. 0.99

00:29:36.620 And we use violence to do so. 1.00

00:29:38.720 Right.

00:29:38.880 And he didn't, yeah, he didn't, I don't think he was on board with that.

00:29:44.360 But you know who is on board with that?

00:29:46.080 Donald Trump.

00:29:46.660 Donald Trump and the War Department.

00:29:48.180 Yes.

00:29:48.400 And that's exactly what our glorious United States Navy has been doing.

00:29:51.000 Absolutely.

00:29:51.580 No, and I think it's, people don't realize that I think there's a much stronger case for us having a military presence and military action in Latin America and in the Western Hemisphere than there is in the Middle East.

00:30:01.020 Yeah, for terrorists.

00:30:02.300 For terrorists.

00:30:02.940 Oh, exactly.

00:30:03.640 I'm on board with the regime change stuff.

00:30:05.980 And you can talk about.

00:30:06.840 But just on this issue, yes.

00:30:08.040 Yes.

00:30:08.360 And you can talk about how well, you know, there's some definite problems with us being ready to fight a near-peer competitor.

00:30:13.880 Like if we actually got into a shooting war with the Chinese or the Russians or something like that, we have to be ready for that. 1.00

00:30:17.440 But one thing that we are really good at is special operations, counterterrorism, killing narco terrorists.

00:30:22.440 We're really good at winning those battles.

00:30:24.140 Yeah, those fast boats and the semi-subversibles are basically your ISIS pickup trucks of the Caribbean.

00:30:31.140 It's on the water.

00:30:31.660 It's the same target set, and you can use the same platform to reach out and touch them.

00:30:36.160 Yeah, and actually, and also one thing I think is really important, because we had a conversation with a friend last night about this.

00:30:41.200 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:30:42.020 Right.

00:30:42.740 A senior person in the administration we had a talk with.

00:30:45.820 And one big reason, the real reason, is not just stopping the drugs, and that's a big one, but also our presence in Latin America, in Southcom, is really also about getting China out of there, right? 0.94

00:30:59.080 Because the Chinese have a ton of influence out in there. 0.79

00:31:01.500 I mean, the Panama Canal, where they practically owned the damn thing for a while, and they've got their claws and their little tentacles everywhere. 1.00

00:31:08.280 They're building port after port after port down there. 0.93

00:31:10.800 And that's our backyard.

00:31:12.160 And in fact, prior to, now we're getting far afield, but prior to the GWAT, this was always the point of Guantanamo Bay.

00:31:20.400 The original purpose of Guantanamo Bay, 1898, after the Spanish-American War, it's our oldest overseas base, was to maintain that U.S. Navy presence for power projection in the Caribbean.

00:31:31.200 And so this was the entire point.

00:31:33.220 And by the way, it wasn't just drug runners at the time.

00:31:35.200 We had, again, 1890s, guess what?

00:31:37.480 We had slave ships.

00:31:38.460 Right.

00:31:38.980 We had, like, mercenaries.

00:31:42.060 Gun runners.

00:31:42.680 Gun runners.

00:31:43.200 By the way, pirates.

00:31:44.440 Yeah.

00:31:44.700 Like, actual pirates that were running through.

00:31:46.580 With the Caribbean, yeah.

00:31:47.080 Gun runners.

00:31:47.520 Yeah, literal pirates of the Caribbean.

00:31:48.600 Right.

00:31:48.840 That existed.

00:31:51.160 And so, you know, I was digging into this.

00:31:53.300 I said, you know, how can the United States Navy be conducting lethal operations in the Caribbean?

00:31:57.020 And I said, do you understand the history of the United States Navy at all?

00:32:00.680 It's where it started?

00:32:01.360 It's literally where it started, a lot of it.

00:32:03.360 You started doing that there and then, like, you know, off the coast of Tripoli.

00:32:06.220 Sure.

00:32:06.820 But anyway, not to get too far off on that, Ryan Grimm, a bunch of articles that, you know, and it's been something that I've been reading.

00:32:16.280 I haven't always covered on the show, but I'll just, I'll put it out here.

00:32:19.800 And Israeli spy stayed for weeks at a time with Jeffrey Epstein in Manhattan.

00:32:24.640 He had that story out just yesterday.

00:32:26.260 Right.

00:32:26.600 I was covering down on Veterans Day, but this is an aid for Ehud Barak.

00:32:33.480 And we knew that Ehud Barak, who had been the prime minister of Israel, was directly tied with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:32:39.160 Here we see again that he was staying for weeks at a time with him.

00:32:42.760 He helped Israel, and he's got a couple other articles.

00:32:45.360 He helped Israel sell a surveillance state to Kodavar.

00:32:48.700 So to Ivory Coast, and he worked on directly with the two of them.

00:32:52.080 Yep.

00:32:52.980 Jeffrey Epstein, how the sex trafficker helped Israel build a back channel to Russia amid the Syrian civil war.

00:33:01.360 And actually, I'm going to pull up the date on that, because that's probably around the same time that he was talking, Syrian civil war.

00:33:06.740 That's probably 2014, 2015 time frame.

00:33:09.580 Let's see.

00:33:10.280 I was-

00:33:10.720 Right here, between 2013 and 2016, working to build a back channel with someone he knew who was tied to Russia during the Syrian civil war.

00:33:20.360 And so you look at this trove of emails that they also have over at DropSite.

00:33:25.780 I didn't want to overlook those either.

00:33:27.940 It was a huge scoop that they had.

00:33:29.780 And look, if you want to dig into Epstein's operations, you've got to find out what he was up to.

00:33:32.920 It's as simple as that.

00:33:33.640 But Jack, we were reliably told by our bettors that Jeffrey Epstein had no connection to foreign intelligence or American intelligence.

00:33:40.260 That's what they told us.

00:33:41.040 Because that's not what we see in the emails here at all.

00:33:45.840 And look, it's as simple as that.

00:33:47.920 And we know, by the way, that so much of the Syrian civil war was an intelligence operation that was run by elements of the CIA.

00:33:55.060 Yep.

00:33:55.300 That was run by elements.

00:33:56.580 And here we're seeing Israeli intelligence.

00:33:59.040 And a number of the Gulf states were involved in this.

00:34:01.100 Sure.

00:34:01.360 And Turkey, of course, bringing up the opposition to, at the time, Bashar al-Assad.

00:34:11.180 Right.

00:34:11.380 So Bashar al-Assad, he was the leader, his father had been the leader, and the Turks wanted to take him out.

00:34:16.600 And it's really interesting how this guy, Al Jelani, who had been the head of a pro-Turkey terrorist group, is now suddenly the guy who's taken over Damascus.

00:34:26.680 It's kind of funny how that works.

00:34:27.960 It's strange.

00:34:28.320 Wasn't he just in the Oval yesterday?

00:34:29.460 He certainly was.

00:34:30.360 He's like, they're trying out Cologne?

00:34:31.640 It looked great.

00:34:31.980 Or Monday, yeah.

00:34:32.760 Monday.

00:34:33.160 Yeah, that's right.

00:34:33.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:34.160 I did appreciate how Trump asked him how many wives he has.

00:34:37.660 I'll give him that.

00:34:38.480 People don't appreciate how funny that man is.

00:34:40.140 But at the same time, you know, you've got to be careful with that because it's one thing to say we'll work with someone.

00:34:46.240 Right.

00:34:46.380 But it's also another thing to say that, you know, we're going to prop up a guy who had been up until, you know, a couple of months ago involved in a terrorist organization.

00:34:52.960 I think he was a hand cutter.

00:34:53.940 They referred to him as a hand cutter.

00:34:55.240 Hand cutter and head cutter. 0.98

00:34:56.220 Oh, and head cutter.

00:34:57.000 Okay.

00:34:57.400 Yeah, head chopper.

00:34:58.560 And so these are bad guys.

00:35:00.660 These are absolutely bad guys.

00:35:01.800 And it, you know, you know, and it just, it reminded me of when, when Reagan sat down with the Afghanistan opposition at the time who would go on to become the Taliban, which would go on to all Qaeda.

00:35:16.220 And there was a little thing in New York that happened.

00:35:17.640 And so, you know, when, when you look at all these things and you put it all together, you see the influence of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:35:24.360 You see the direct connection with these politicians and trying to get connections to more politicians like Donald Trump.

00:35:31.940 And I'm just going to say, it seems like he was trying and failing.

00:35:34.660 It seems like he was trying and failing to build that connection.

00:35:37.180 You really have to ask yourself the question, how many pots was he involved in, you know, and not just, not just foreign policy, but also honey pots.

00:35:51.100 Yeah.

00:35:51.320 And it's a real question for all of us is how much do we know about foreign policy involves blackmail?

00:35:59.000 Oh, of course.

00:35:59.420 I mean, it goes like throughout history.

00:36:00.640 I mean, it's a pretty common thing.

00:36:01.780 Yes.

00:36:01.920 This is, I mean, it's kind of the easiest method.

00:36:04.000 If you really want to compromise some people, you know, is you, you sex, right? 0.81

00:36:08.500 I've seen, I've seen a lot of people point out, they say, well, now that Epstein is off the playing field, you know, how do you, you know, what, who's, who's running it now?

00:36:17.260 Yeah.

00:36:17.500 And one of the best theories that I think I've heard is that you don't need an Epstein now because you have the internet.

00:36:22.900 True.

00:36:23.340 Like a lot of that.

00:36:24.160 Right.

00:36:24.360 So all you need to do is pull someone's search history, pull their online pornography history, and it kind of serves the same purpose.

00:36:30.720 Stay away from that stuff, kids.

00:36:31.700 Anyways, or if you're involved in any of the, I mean, there was a guy in, uh, uh, James Salarico who just got, you know, they just found that he'd been following a bunch of OnlyFans models.

00:36:41.040 Oh, that's right.

00:36:42.000 And all this other stuff.

00:36:42.860 And that was like out in the public.

00:36:43.920 Yeah.

00:36:44.640 It's like, that was an easy one.

00:36:45.620 Yeah.

00:36:45.880 There's so many of those things.

00:36:47.020 Well, one, it comes, just stay away from that stuff.

00:36:49.240 I mean, that's just the easiest one out there.

00:36:50.920 But at the same time, you got to hand it to Israel. 0.72

00:36:52.920 Like, they've got some serious game.

00:36:54.500 They really do.

00:36:55.420 God.

00:36:55.740 I mean, they do.

00:36:57.080 You know, I mean, that's one of the huge asymmetric advantages that they have.

00:37:00.940 I mean, and you ask, you talk to folks, former intelligence folks from our country and others, and they'll say that, like, hey, they've got some of the best intelligence game there is.

00:37:08.160 They really do.

00:37:08.720 I mean, and that's the thing.

00:37:10.240 And that's why, you know, even in the U.S. military, we have red forces, we have blue forces.

00:37:14.560 We also have green forces.

00:37:15.660 That's right.

00:37:15.940 And so, and Israel has always been considered a green force.

00:37:19.660 Sometimes you partner.

00:37:20.880 Sometimes that partnership goes, it gets a little one-sided.

00:37:24.120 And so, you always have to be on the lookout for that.

00:37:26.960 And in this case, you know, you've got Jeffrey Epstein.

00:37:29.460 You've got Ehud Barak.

00:37:30.660 You've got, who was the head of?

00:37:32.460 Mossad, right?

00:37:33.060 Of Mossad, yes.

00:37:33.640 He was the head of Israeli intelligence.

00:37:35.340 So, we're not saying that this is some conspiracy.

00:37:37.780 No, he's literally the guy.

00:37:39.280 You know, he was the one.

00:37:40.640 So, and to be involved as heavily as they were in the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad, which, by the way, was successful, really begs the question, why was Jeffrey Epstein involved in the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad?

00:37:55.340 Jack Posobiec, Tom Sauer, back here, Real Narcos Voice, Human Events Daily.

00:38:06.560 Jack is a great guy.

00:38:08.040 He's written that fantastic book.

00:38:09.880 Everybody's talking about it.

00:38:11.020 Go get it.

00:38:12.140 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:16.140 And we're going to turn it around and make our country cry to get to him.

00:38:19.400 Amen.

00:38:25.020 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back here.

00:38:26.960 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:38:29.760 By the way, you know, I just wanted to say that, you know, whenever they play that clip of President Trump and me, and he's talking about the book.

00:38:36.880 And he's encouraging people to go buy it.

00:38:40.900 That, I don't know if people know this, but that clip Charlie Kirk filmed that.

00:38:45.720 We were backstage at a Turning Point Action Rally in October of 2024.

00:38:50.100 And it was me, the president, Charlie, and obviously the whole senior staff was there.

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00:39:03.720 And he pulls up his own phone and just films that.

00:39:07.680 And we do it.

00:39:08.260 He sent it to him and he said, Jack, I got you.

00:39:11.240 And it's just, yeah, Charlie actually filmed that little back lure for Human Events Daily.

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00:40:32.920 All right, Tom, I got to get in on this now because people know, like, you know, you're a veteran, I'm a veteran,

00:40:39.160 you work in veterans advocacy, and it's been something that you've been an absolute leader on.

00:40:45.160 And President Trump was talking about the H-1B program, I guess, yesterday, and this has just completely roiled up everyone online.

00:40:57.260 Why is it that you would say that MAGA, America First, and particularly the veteran community gets so upset when they hear about the H-1B program?

00:41:06.640 I think it just comes down to jobs and skilled labor and housing and affordability, right?

00:41:10.500 Where, I mean, right off the bat, that's the easiest one there.

00:41:13.840 And you consider the fact that, you know, if I know folks out there who have computer science degrees from top schools,

00:41:19.700 they are struggling to get a good job, right?

00:41:23.180 Why?

00:41:23.300 Because we've got other, we've got, we're importing cheap labor and they're practically, you know, indentured servants, practically slaves, right?

00:41:29.840 For a fraction of the money.

00:41:31.380 It's a real problem here, right?

00:41:32.640 And it's not just in the tech space, but it's all over the place, right?

00:41:35.680 It's within housing.

00:41:36.980 It's like having skilled labor for housing to be able to build enough houses, right, in this country.

00:41:41.340 Also, we've got way too many people that are, that shouldn't be here.

00:41:44.880 So we're not even talking about just illegal immigration.

00:41:47.420 It's all immigration. 0.98

00:41:49.140 Like that, what people don't realize.

00:41:50.220 So this is creating downward pressure on wages.

00:41:53.120 Right.

00:41:53.440 And it's forcing every American to have to compete with every other worker around the world, especially when, and this isn't an immigration situation, 0.81

00:42:03.120 but especially when you count the outsourcing that goes on because of remote work.

00:42:07.020 Yep.

00:42:07.200 I have a good friend, you know him, still boneless, who trained a workforce that's overseas, and he was told that they were going to be his staff.

00:42:16.420 Yep.

00:42:16.620 And then immediately once he was done training, he lost his job.

00:42:19.580 It was terrible.

00:42:20.560 Yeah.

00:42:21.000 A lot of cases of that.

00:42:21.900 I've seen plenty of examples.

00:42:23.020 And so in the veteran, I'll just ask from a basic perspective, are 100% of our veterans employed today in America?

00:42:32.400 They are not.

00:42:33.120 Interesting.

00:42:34.060 So we do have unemployed veterans.

00:42:36.760 And who have skills.

00:42:38.080 And do those, yeah, I was going to ask you to anticipate involved.

00:42:40.800 Do American veterans have skills and talents? 0.96

00:42:44.200 Absolutely.

00:42:45.220 And some discipline, too.

00:42:46.740 And a little bit of discipline, military discipline and bearing.

00:42:48.760 Work experience.

00:42:49.660 Military, bearing, and discipline.

00:42:50.960 So they have all that.

00:42:51.720 They have work experience.

00:42:52.540 Right.

00:42:53.620 They're not 100% employed.

00:42:56.420 No.

00:42:56.580 And so the question then is, why does it seem like these foreign workers are being brought in,

00:43:03.120 before every single American veteran has a job?

00:43:06.760 I think it's coming down to an issue of corporate profits.

00:43:09.360 Right?

00:43:10.480 I mean, our friend Steve Bannon, obviously, he talks about this quite a bit.

00:43:13.680 And he's absolutely right.

00:43:14.680 Where it's like.

00:43:15.200 Oh, Bannon, does he have an opinion on it?

00:43:16.340 A little bit.

00:43:17.260 A little bit.

00:43:17.780 Right.

00:43:18.080 He's got a little bit of opinion on it.

00:43:19.420 But that's what you're looking at.

00:43:20.720 And even when I talk to other companies that want to, like, do work with the government

00:43:24.060 as well, one of the things I say to them is, like, they'll throw up things like, hey,

00:43:28.200 this contributed GDP.

00:43:29.200 I go, get that word out of your vocabulary. 0.97

00:43:32.020 Just because line go up does not mean prosperity for Americans.

00:43:35.540 You emphasize, and your focus needs to be on creating good-paying jobs for American workers.

00:43:40.520 And there is plenty of opportunity, and there's plenty of a labor force there.

00:43:44.180 But if you're importing cheap foreign labor, and then they themselves are practically slaves 0.52

00:43:49.900 because they can't leave, because if they leave the job, then they'll get deported as

00:43:53.060 well.

00:43:53.200 So, no, it's nothing good for them either.

00:43:55.160 And I think this is something really important, and this is why Charlie Kirk was so valuable

00:44:00.180 to our movement and why his loss is a loss to the American First and the entire MAGA movement,

00:44:05.860 because he was the guy who was constantly talking to the administration at the highest levels,

00:44:10.960 like, hey, this immigration thing is a real problem.

00:44:13.040 You need to watch this, right?

00:44:14.600 And we don't have Charlie here anymore.

00:44:16.040 Charlie would be on campus.

00:44:16.800 He'd be on campus day in and day out hearing what the kids were saying, hearing what Gen

00:44:21.620 Z was saying, hearing what that generation was saying.

00:44:24.580 They're saying, wait a minute.

00:44:25.720 Why do we have to go into the workforce and compete with every single foreign labor when 1.00

00:44:30.420 they come across?

00:44:31.340 And people say what they were.

00:44:32.320 And I always hear this refrain, too.

00:44:34.400 They say, oh, well, they're willing to work harder.

00:44:36.540 I say, of course they are, because they want to be in the country.

00:44:38.580 They have an incentive to be here to work for less, because the benefits of the

00:44:43.020 benefit from them is they get to come in the country.

00:44:44.680 And then the other piece of it, too, is they do then get access to the American system,

00:44:48.920 to American health care, to all of this, which, by the way.

00:44:52.080 Snap benefits.

00:44:52.900 You know, all of these benefits are on the backs of the taxpayers.

00:44:56.300 So the company doesn't have to worry about any of that.

00:44:57.860 Right.

00:44:58.020 I mean, we think about when something like 40 million, where American taxpayers are subsidizing

00:45:03.880 40 million other people in this country, right, for their EBT and snap benefits, right?

00:45:09.580 That's why groceries are so expensive, right?

00:45:11.640 That's why cost of living is so down, you know, is so much harder to compete.

00:45:15.780 I mean, and you see that.

00:45:16.540 So you're saying that there's a connection between demand, supply, and prices.

00:45:22.900 It seems like there is sometimes, yeah.

00:45:24.520 Yeah, I did take a macro class.

00:45:25.840 We're uncovering and discovering all new things about our economy.

00:45:30.440 Yeah.

00:45:30.720 Applying demand can affect price.

00:45:32.460 And it's not just about, and things people look and say, GDP is this, GDP is that, or

00:45:35.960 something like that.

00:45:36.440 And it's like, well, also, when the GDP is wrapped up in a dozen tech companies, which

00:45:40.200 might be in a little bit of a bubble, who knows, right?

00:45:42.540 But the thing is, further, you should look more like the health of the American people.

00:45:46.580 Yeah, I've said, so I was on Bill Cain's show the other day.

00:45:49.280 Right.

00:45:49.500 And I didn't talk about the GDP, but I said, we need to stop talking about the economy.

00:45:53.440 We need to start talking about economic conditions.

00:45:55.320 Right.

00:45:55.780 And economic conditions are not the same thing.

00:45:57.900 And I'll say here on this program, we need to stop the worship of the GDP.

00:46:03.120 Absolutely.

00:46:03.580 We need to stop.

00:46:04.100 It seems like conservatives only care about conserving the GDP.

00:46:08.140 They don't care about the social conditions, or the living conditions, or the economic conditions

00:46:12.820 of the average American, or the media American.

00:46:14.780 They only care about conserving the GDP.

00:46:16.100 And also, there's a great subset, Lomaz and I have chatted about this, and that really

00:46:21.880 goes to show you that it's just a theory.

00:46:24.220 Right.

00:46:24.320 It's just, it's an economic model.

00:46:26.220 Right.

00:46:26.360 It's not even a real thing.

00:46:27.720 Yeah.

00:46:28.120 And yet, we talk about it like it is.

00:46:30.400 So, Tom, put all that together.

00:46:32.420 We're in our final minute here.

00:46:34.520 Just, so when we hear this push for more H-1B, or an expansion of H-1B, what kind of message

00:46:43.000 does that send to all these people that we're talking about, particularly American veterans?

00:46:46.780 It tells you that you're not, I think it really says we don't value you as much.

00:46:50.040 We worship GDP, and we worship profits more than we do the health of the American worker

00:46:55.040 and the health of the American nation.

00:46:56.880 It really does.

00:46:57.340 I mean, look, drive two hours in any direction in this country, and you will see what a lot

00:47:01.420 of just the economic despair, and that all ties into the addiction, right?

00:47:05.820 Crime, unaffordability of living, all that stuff.

00:47:09.740 Which a lot of veterans fall into.

00:47:12.100 Tons of them do.

00:47:12.720 Because they get blocked out from the workforce.

00:47:14.380 Right.

00:47:14.700 They absolutely do.

00:47:15.600 And it really-

00:47:16.580 This is a cycle, and I know you've worked on this because you ran rehab centers, that

00:47:20.480 this is a cycle that typically happens when they're making that transition from military

00:47:25.040 life to civilian life.

00:47:25.900 Right.

00:47:26.200 They do.

00:47:26.640 And then especially when economic conditions are, there's despair, then you start having

00:47:29.800 the deaths of despair, and I mean, there's a reason why the opioid crisis followed immediately

00:47:34.320 after the shutdown.

00:47:35.340 Tom Sauer, where do people go to follow your brother?

00:47:37.240 At Thomas B. Sauer on everyone's favorite website, x.com.

00:47:41.600 x.com.

00:47:42.320 All right, Tom Sauer.

00:47:42.940 Hey, buddy.

00:47:43.400 Appreciate it, brother.

00:47:44.020 Glad to have you here.

00:47:44.740 It's an honor, as always.

00:47:46.120 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have no permission.

00:47:47.960 Later.

00:47:48.180 Later.

00:47:48.240 Later.

00:47:48.300 Later.

00:47:48.740 Later.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 12, 2025

The Latest On Jeffrey Epstein, Israel and Syria, and H1B

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