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00:09:17.540Look, folks, today was a, it was a day that the judge did the right thing in releasing
00:09:26.800the video and the video of Lance Twiggs. Everyone needs to watch this video again and again. And
00:09:35.040we are going to, I want to tell these guys on the show that we need to be playing this video every
00:09:40.760day. And certainly we need to be showing it as much as possible whenever we talk about it,
00:09:45.760because this is the video that breaks the entire thing open. But let me tell you something right
00:09:53.100now. Right now. Going hunting. He said he was going hunting. When he was going after
00:10:04.060Charlie, going hunting. I'm sure he thought he was Mr. Cool when he did that, huh? Oh,
00:10:15.480he figured it all out. I'm going to go hunting. Oh, I'm going to go out there. And we know
00:10:22.600now because we've seen the lance twigs video and we're going to show that lance twigs video
00:10:27.360every single moment that we can going hunting okay all right that's how it's going to be
00:10:37.780that's how it's going to be i want to bring on now our first guest because i just i need i need
00:10:46.280someone else to be talking right now we've got viva fry from the viva fry show on viva how are
00:10:51.000you and i i look man i'm i'm a little hot i'm a little hot about some of the stuff that came
00:10:56.160out of court today especially that that twigs video it's disgusting i mean and the bottom line
00:11:03.600is you know twigs acknowledges he needed a dremel to engrave messages on bullets when he was going
00:11:11.280hunting with his family and the question i wish mcbride had asked was did you ever see any of the
00:11:18.240messages on the bullets because it's not like uh it's not a normal thing that you ask for a
00:11:23.300dremel tool to engrave messages on bullets when you're going hunting with your family and he
00:11:30.180never asked the question it obviously never got answered because it never got asked and i suspect
00:11:35.720that lance knew exactly what he was engraving on the bullets i suspect lance knew exactly what he
00:11:41.780was planning to do with those bullets and i suspect the the the morning after the assassination
00:11:46.280after lance acknowledges that tyler sent him the automated text the night of that he knew exactly
00:11:54.660what had happened it went i would arguably say according to their plan and the next morning
00:11:59.840they were planning how to get tyler robinson out of this and away from it but alas you know
00:12:06.080lance is not on trial he may or may not wait wait wait wait viva it's a hold on wait wait wait so
00:12:11.200Viva, are you saying, and I'm processing what you're saying in real time here, are you saying
00:12:17.700that there's a chance, potentially, that Twigs actually knew about all of this beforehand and
00:12:25.460that this auto message and all of these other things were some way to make it look as though
00:12:31.700he did not have foreknowledge? I'm biased. My operating theory was that
00:12:38.480you don't live with someone know that they're engraving bullets for hunting uh that you're
00:12:44.260involved in online discord chats with with furry whatevers and not have any inkling as to what is
00:12:51.840going on we know that there were people who tweeted out in advance something big is going to
00:12:56.060happen or something to that effect as relates to the uh the uvu event i believe and that's why i
00:13:03.880might be biased when I listen to Lance Twiggs testify today that he obviously knew something
00:13:09.780they were doing something Tyler didn't do this out of the blue unbeknownst to anybody living in a
00:13:16.420closed quarter apartment with his lover who's a furry trans individual engraving bullets and
00:13:22.080nobody said hey what's going on to me it's a no-brainer uh you know whether or not Lance
00:13:28.580thinks he might have scored immunity from his use immunity statement he may or may not be right
00:13:33.500the bottom line i think other people knew i think other people were involved i think other people
00:13:37.680had advanced foreknowledge i think that's clear from social media posts i based on all the evidence
00:13:42.840right now you know do believe that tyler is the one who pulled the trigger we now know that it
00:13:47.720was a soft tip allegedly remington 30-06 which is intended to expand on impact which might explain
00:13:54.300the absence of an exit wound do i believe that lance twiggs was caught off guard with any of this
00:13:59.260hells to the bells no i believe that other people in the discord chats knew it was coming
00:14:04.180i question why the fbi did or did not investigate that but that's a separate issue this is one bad
00:14:11.720day for everybody who said a 30-06 could never do that unless it's a soft tip it's a bad day for
00:14:17.160everybody saying it's not lance twigs in that video when his lover his mother identified him
00:14:22.000and do i believe that tyler robinson tyler robinson sorry but do i believe that lance
00:14:29.380didn't know anything of what was coming it was called off guard called off guard but you listen
00:14:34.020to his testimony it's absolutely incoherent rubbish he gets a text message the night of
00:14:39.880this is 10 hours after charlie kirk has been brutally murdered and says i didn't see anything
00:14:45.020about it except for one message in my instagram account bullcrap gets a gets a text message from
00:14:50.480his lover saying look under my keyboard under the keyboard says i did it and this guy just goes to
00:14:56.080bed that night and then wakes up with with with tyler in his room the next morning doing chores
00:15:01.100trying to keep himself busy and he asked him did you actually do this it's so laughably stupid
00:15:07.140that tyler uh did not let anybody know what he was going to do and that lance had no idea what
00:15:13.500he was going to do he got the message the night of and then spent the night without tyler coming
00:15:20.020back to the apartment and then pretends to be shocked the next morning. I mean, the bottom
00:15:25.020line, there's a lot of rage going on here in terms of who else was involved and who else was
00:15:30.220investigated thoroughly. But as far as a probable cause hearing goes, Tyler is dead to rights. He
00:15:37.700goes to trial and he probably gets convicted. The only thing that might be surmised out of all of
00:15:43.500this is that the defense went with this strategy of a five day long preliminary hearing so they
00:15:49.360could beg the prosecution to take the death penalty off the table and just sentence him to
00:15:54.400life maybe well it might be but let me let me let me just let me just add one thing because you put
00:16:02.220a lot in there and i want to make sure people understand what we're all talking about that this
00:16:06.220this is the video that was played um by in court and and we're working on getting a clip of that
00:16:12.220But to your point about it seems like there are pieces of the puzzle that are missing.
00:16:20.900One of the biggest ones for me was when they asked him the question, did you guys, the two of you who were in an LGBT, in a gay relationship, and he said, did you ever talk about LGBT issues?
00:19:48.160And look, before we dive into the evidence, and Viva and myself, look, we want to analyze all this and opine on it.
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00:20:29.220But, Viva, let's zoom out a little bit here because here you and I, of course, we want to analyze the evidence.
00:20:36.440But my goodness, the avalanche of evidence that came out today is just, it's incredible.
00:20:45.820It is, not only the video, we got the ballistics.
00:20:48.880We've now confirmed that it was the soft point hunting round from Remington.
00:20:54.320As many people have questioned and asked about, we've now got that confirmation as to the specific round that was used by Tyler Robinson.
00:21:04.000We've got the direct DNA match to the rifle itself.
00:21:09.260Talk to me a little bit about the avalanche of new evidence we have, in addition, by the way, of course, to now the bombshell testimony of the significant other of the suspect, which is, again, something that's just unprecedented.
00:21:25.380So just going to remind everybody, this is the preliminary hearing.
00:21:28.880So it is an avalanche of evidence in the context of a preliminary hearing, which is not beyond a reasonable doubt, but rather probable cause.
00:21:38.720And so hearsay evidence is admissible, whether you like it or not.
00:21:43.800You don't get to cross-examine a witness because otherwise the admissibility of hearsay would become academic if you had the automatic right to cross-examine the witness.
00:30:58.060well would would you agree that that today really feels like the dam broke in terms of just this
00:31:05.880again i've called it an avalanche of evidence yeah i think i actually ended up being kind of
00:31:12.800surprised that the twigs video got played publicly uh i thought i was of the opinion
00:31:18.700when i thought about it that because that video wouldn't ultimately be admissible as evidence the
00:31:23.620judge would be willing to look at it himself but he wouldn't be willing to show it to the public
00:31:27.960at large, kind of worrying potentially about the, you know, issues at voir dire, you know,
00:31:34.420people having already come in, having seen inadmissible evidence. But, you know, the judge
00:31:40.260decided to admit it. And it really, I mean, it's unbelievably damning. I think the Twig's interview,
00:31:45.040it demonstrates so many different things, corroborates so many facts, lays the foundation
00:31:49.580for the um the confession note include and the confession texts um and it just i found it
00:31:58.440completely damning he he has the timeline that matches perfectly with what robinson did that
00:32:03.120he woke up very early in the morning and and then you know goes through the entire detail right like
00:32:07.860and that's again people are like oh those text messages are fake and it's like no here's a
00:32:11.240picture of twigs holding the phone and and you taking a picture of of the underlying text messages
00:32:17.440Like this, this is real. It's just an overwhelming amount of evidence. Most murder trials do not have four distinct confessions. It's just not very common. And so I think those who those who doubted Tyler Robinson was the shooter, if they didn't have a bad day yesterday, they had the worst day of the week today.
00:32:35.720well and will you mention it i've got i've got my notepad from you know being court today but
00:32:43.060one of the things you mentioned about in terms of corroboration that struck my mind is that we did
00:32:48.860get new text messages as well or i should say the references to the text messages that were made in
00:32:54.440the video through twigs and uh there was something that he said so they're having that discussion
00:32:59.100about going back to that moment where tyler robinson was trying to retrieve the gun from
00:33:04.240what he called the drop site uh this place in the woods and apparently over one of the new text
00:33:09.420messages twigs reads it out and says that tyler said these crickets are so loud well if you go
00:33:18.160back in time to the new video that came out of uh tyler robinson's dodge charger pulling up in front
00:33:25.960of that home in the middle of the night what do you hear on the video very loudly you hear very
00:33:31.920loud crickets. And so it's just one of those things where, you know, in the grand scheme of
00:33:38.280things, you know, you say it's a cricket, but hold on a second, because now we've got specific
00:33:44.560independent corroboration of something that was in these text messages to a video that came from
00:33:51.960a Nest camera system that presumably that Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs had no access to
00:33:59.000whatsoever. So again, it's just those little details that solidify the case so much.
00:34:06.020Yeah. And I mean, I think that's been the story. I mean, it's really amazing that you're seeing so
00:34:10.420much of this, not at trial, but in a preliminary hearing, it's just an overwhelming amount of
00:34:14.700these small little details. The details about the ballistics, right? The fact that the bullet
00:34:20.060that he was using was actually the type of bullet that was designed to mushroom. I mean,
00:34:25.720remember the the core theory pro you know the core fact that basically every conspiracy theorist is
00:34:31.260hanging their hat on core fact i should put that in air quotes was the idea that a 30-06 should
00:34:36.640have left an exit wound well what happens if the bullet was meant to mushroom inside once it hits
00:34:41.260right what does that mean you know uh and i mean of course that actually makes sense because that
00:34:47.680increases the lethality of the bullet so i mean and if that fact is gone the whole idea of you
00:34:54.140know there where's the exit wound if that's gone uh what's left i mean it's sort of obvious that
00:34:59.280there's just this overwhelming pile of evidence pointing to tyler robinson they're relying on
00:35:04.220this one what they say is an impossibility it's just not i had a lot actually had a lengthy
00:35:08.200discussion on jeremy boring's show yesterday with a ballistics expert who talked talked about he he
00:35:13.620knows of four shootings off the top of his head um both you know prominent people like martin
00:35:18.040luther king but also green fellow green berets uh who have been shot by a 30-06 and not had an exit
00:35:23.840well look you know it's it's in in in the you know the the soft community the you know there's
00:35:32.380this phrase bullets do weird things and it's it's sort of a catch-all phrase that you know even if
00:35:39.020you know the ballistics even if you know the physics you just don't know what's going to
00:35:43.320happen in the field and in fact the ballistics expert from the atf testified to that today
00:35:47.200when she said, look, we use a water tank to fire these bullets into because we need to preserve it
00:35:54.120because of the amount of damage that happens to a bullet when it is fired in a normal setting.
00:36:03.540That's why they go to such lengths to try to preserve the bullets because so much can happen to them,
00:36:09.580which, of course, could preclude testing, which, in fact, is what she has stated.
00:36:46.640All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're back live here.
00:36:53.900Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:36:56.440I want to talk a little bit now about the many confessions of Tyler Robinson.
00:37:02.700And if you saw the afternoon show today, I referenced this.
00:37:07.980Will Chamberlain is our guest in the Article 3 Project.
00:37:10.160Now, look, I understand that there are questions about the admissibility of a number of these confessions.
00:37:22.000But what was interesting is that, so you have the confession on Discord, you have the confession on text message,
00:37:27.000you have the confession to Lance Twiggs in the note, you have the confession to Lance Twiggs over text message.
00:37:36.440We now have the confession of Tyler Robinson to his parents.
00:37:40.240You have the confession of Tyler Robinson to his parents' neighbor.
00:37:44.040We don't know exactly what he said to police, so I'm not going to call that one.
00:37:48.020But we also have now information about yet another confession of Tyler Robinson when he confessed.
00:37:56.060Because we now know that there was a meeting that Lance Twiggs had in person with Tyler Robinson in their home on September 11th, the day after the shooting.
00:38:07.160And so, Will, you know, I get and the judge ruled today, of course, that because these were not made in a law enforcement setting, that's why it was admitted.
00:38:15.020We don't know if this will be shown before a jury.
00:38:17.380But talk to us about, you know, what can be done with this, the many confessions of Tyler Robinson.
00:38:24.220Oh, I mean, these confessions, I think, are all going to be admitted. They are hearsay in the sense that, you know, it is the statement of an out-of-court statement being brought for the truth of, you know, for its truth value, but they fit into like a bazillion different hearsay exceptions, statements of the involved party, statements against interest, excited utterances.
00:38:47.900So this is – these are all going to come in, I'm pretty sure.
00:38:52.340The only thing that might not – I mean the only – what's not going to come in is this video, right?
00:38:55.820The key thing to understand is this video is hearsay but it also – bringing it forward given that Lance Twiggs is alive and well would violate the confrontation clause.
00:39:04.200You have a constitutional right to confront your accusers.
00:39:07.380So he will have to actually testify and subject himself to cross-examination.
00:39:11.060But the actual substance of confessions would include that note.
00:39:16.520So this would be you're right. The video will not be entered because Lance Twiggs himself will be entered.
00:39:23.720We'll have something that's right. That's far beyond an actual, you know, just a video.
00:39:28.600We are going to have Lance Twiggs in person.
00:39:31.640And I'm I'm certainly sure that whatever use immunity agreement required his presence at any and all court proceedings.
00:39:39.860And so that's the reason. So when when you say that, I just want to make sure people understand this.
00:39:45.800When you say the video won't be entered, that's because Lance Twiggs himself will be there.
00:39:51.040And by the way, we do also we also expect that one or both of Tyler Robinson's parents will also testify against him at this trial.
00:40:01.740Yes, that's right. Right there. Everybody's going to have to testify.
00:40:04.740None of this is privileged. Right. Like you're this is not attorney client communication.
00:40:08.980This is literally just a guy admitting to somebody else that they did a crime.
00:40:12.180That's not privilege. And, you know, there's no parent-child privilege. There's only spousal privilege. So this is just, again, there's no privilege involved here. So the mother and father will have to testify if they're put under subpoena, under oath. Lance Togues will have to testify under oath. He won't be able to claim the Fifth Amendment. That's the point of use immunity because the Fifth Amendment is saying you're not allowed to testify if you reasonably fear incriminating yourself as a result of your testimony.
00:40:36.020Well, if you're given immunity from what you say, then there is no such reasonable fear. So you must testify. So everybody's going to have to show up and take, you know, raise their right hand and answer questions from the prosecution about what Tyler Robinson told them.
00:40:47.880um and so all these confessions will come in and you know the the note the text message the discord
00:40:55.160messages like there's at least the the speaking to his parents speaking to the family friend
00:40:59.880perhaps what he said the police station all of these confessions will come in um and you know
00:41:06.160normally again you don't have we know of at least four confessions there are probably more
00:41:10.340uh and they're they will all come in um it's just how they come in is going to vary in different
00:41:16.260cases. Sometimes they will come in because you have a written document and all you will need
00:41:20.220is somebody to testify to authenticate the document. That's in the case of the text messages
00:41:23.960and the Discord messages. And that sometimes he will have told somebody, in which case the person
00:41:28.080he told will have to testify under oath about what Robinson said. Right. So this is where all
00:41:36.020of this comes in. And, you know, I will say that, you know, Tyler, you know, here's one thing just
00:41:41.700so people understand from my vantage point, I can, I'm behind Tyler. So I cannot see if he's
00:41:48.260making facial expressions. Um, the gallery or excuse me, not the gallery, the jury box right
00:41:54.960now where a jury would be is filled with media. Now they do not have cameras, but they can see
00:42:02.000Tyler Robinson's face. They can see the way he's reacting to things. No, I don't see him, you know,
00:42:09.640moving or anything that much uh you know i can i can tell that but i can't see his face they said
00:42:15.540that he looked very uncomfortable as this video was being played i'm sure he did uh that video
00:42:22.340was damning in any number of ways it foreclosed a lot of different avenues that the defense might
00:42:27.960try and deal with a lot of the evidence that they're facing um and i mean you know i've seen
00:42:33.820some people try like basically i've already seen people say the only way lance twiggs is a fed
00:42:38.220Somehow that's that's the way they're getting out of this testimony, which is just preposterous. I'm sorry. You know, and as you talk about, there's so many different independent corroborating details and the number of people who would have to be lying under oath and fabricating evidence to make any sort of conspiracy possible here is just unfathomable, unfathomable.
00:42:56.980how many people would have to be lying in fabricated evidence. Unfathomable how difficult
00:43:02.240and absurd it would be for all these different documents to be fabricated and such. And also,
00:43:08.780they would have had to have done so in such a massively short time frame. It's just absurd.
00:43:14.220Well, and we'll also, let's be clear that the defense today was referring to them as the Tyler
00:43:23.220and Twiggs text messages and the defense referred to them as Tyler's discord messages. So Mr. Novak
00:43:31.400did that and I he only did it one time, but I caught it. So you now have Tyler's own defense
00:43:37.380team referring to these messages as his messages. They're not challenging whether or not he wrote
00:43:43.940them. They're just challenging whether or not they can be shown to the public. Right. And I think I
00:43:51.000mean this is again revealing how unbelievably reckless it was for them not to waive the
00:43:54.820preliminary hearing i think i i saw somebody mentioned this but they would have had all this
00:43:58.320evidence already they knew it was coming um and they didn't waive the preliminary hearing and now
00:44:02.840the entire the the public in the world is seeing all this stuff before trial before trial so uh
00:44:09.820yeah i mean and again this is one of those things that they could not sustain any meaningful
00:44:13.800authenticity challenge to this stuff it would make them look foolish they would look foolish
00:44:17.460they'd lose any credibility, whatever little credibility they have with the judge. People on
00:44:22.300the internet can say whatever they want. People on the internet can make claims about twigs being
00:44:26.280a fed, but none of that would stand sustained questioning under oath, right? That's, I think,
00:44:31.660what people, a lot of lay people don't understand about how courts work. When you're under oath and
00:44:36.380there's no time limit on questioning, you just can't really wriggle out unless the lawyer lets
00:44:41.100you. A competent examiner, a competent lawyer will just take a question that you maybe answer
00:44:46.280narrowly or answer as a dodge and then use your dodge to inform them about how they need to
00:44:51.740reframe and reformulate their question so you cannot dodge it and then if you refuse to answer
00:44:56.660the judge will instruct you to answer and if you don't then you'll be in contempt and they'll toss
00:45:00.840you in jail if you're just some random person um basically like if you're a third party witness so
00:45:07.500the truth will come out here and the idea that you know and that's true of the defense too right
00:45:13.520the defense if you know there were some massive conspiracy they could unveil they would be
00:45:17.780thinking about how they could do it but they won't be able to do it because it's not there and if
00:45:22.720they tried to go down that route they'd make themselves look foolish and there were any
00:45:25.760witnesses they'd try and put up there to put forward this theory would be made to look
00:45:29.500unbelievably foolish. Will Chamberlain thank you for your ongoing yeoman's work on this where can
00:45:36.400people follow you? At Will Chamberlain on X and you can follow the article 3 project at a3paction.com
00:45:43.520Folks, today was a day that we have fought for for a very long time.
00:45:48.700And for those of us who have wanted the truth to come out, it's here.