00:00:55.240Judge Zia Farakwee apologized to suspect Cole Allen for the treatment he's received so far while he's been behind bars.
00:01:04.520He's been put on suicide watch by the Department of Corrections, and the judge was asking why.
00:01:09.440An attorney for the government said that he was put on suicide watch because he told FBI agents the night of the White House Correspondents' Dinner attack that he didn't expect to survive.
00:03:19.500Folks, we need to talk about the Pacific Palisades fire bug, the arsonist who was arrested for committing those fires.
00:03:30.460Now, here's what people need to actually realize.
00:03:34.420Did you even know that the Pacific Palisades were committed by an arsonist?
00:03:39.060This fire was committed by an arsonist.
00:03:40.600people don't realize this because I haven't heard the mainstream media bringing this up at all. I
00:03:45.480haven't heard this being a huge detail. His name is Jonathan Rindernecht, and he is accused of
00:03:54.480having started these fires. Federal prosecutors, according to Postmillennial, allege that the 30
00:04:01.200year old Rindernecht was upset over a past relationship with a former coworker and angry
00:04:06.380about not having plans on New Year's Eve prior to the fire. While working as an Uber driver,
00:04:12.640passengers of his claimed that he displayed erratic behavior that night, describing him as
00:04:16.700angry, driving recklessly, and ranting about his frustration with the world. This is according to
00:04:23.080local news. They said that he had obsession with fire, but also an obsession with, and you're
00:04:28.920going to love this, an obsession with Luigi Maggioni, the man accused of murdering United
00:04:36.000Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. During an interview on January 2025, Renderneck was reportedly asked
00:04:43.480why someone might commit arson in the Palisades. He responded that it could be done, quote,
00:04:48.640out of resentment of the rich enjoying their money as we're basically being enslaved by them.
00:04:55.440Investigators also allege that Rendernecks search online for phrases relating to Mangione in the weeks before the Lockman fire, including free Luigi Mangione.
00:05:05.860Let's take down all the billionaires. Reddit, let's K.I.L.L. all the billionaires.
00:05:11.940And this was weeks before the Lockman fire. He was obsessed with Mangione.
00:05:18.100He was driving around in his Uber ranting about Mangione.
00:06:50.640You don't hear that this was done by a left-wing terrorist who was hell-bent on delivering, quote-unquote, revenge to the people he viewed as his political enemies.
00:07:07.600Pay attention, folks, because the Mangiones are growing.
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00:09:00.100844-577-7676. All right. So I wanted to talk more about the Pacific Palisades fire and the
00:09:08.400fact that so many people are not linking this to the series of left-wing violence and left-wing
00:09:15.220attacks that we've seen in this country, even though it's right there in black and white for
00:09:20.180all of us to see. And even if you just take the Pacific Palisades, because there were other fires
00:09:25.900at that time, this was 25 days, 23,000 acres, at least 12 deaths that we know of.
00:09:35.960Plus, there was a JAMA study that said 440 died in terms of excess-related death, smoke inhalation, this type of thing, seven missing people, 105,000 evacuated, 6,837 buildings damaged, or excuse me, structures destroyed, and then $25 billion, $25 billion in terms of damage.
00:10:05.120I want to bring on now former DHS official Katie Zachariah here to the program to kind of help break all this down.
00:10:12.920Katie, how are you? Excellent, Jack. How are you?
00:10:17.240I'm good. But, you know, so I'm reading through this document.
00:10:21.640And again, this is just the charging document that's out.
00:10:24.640And of course, alleged innocent before we guilty.
00:10:27.840And yet we see this information, 30 year old Jonathan Rindernecht,
00:10:32.200who was this uber driver who was resentful at the world he in his own words hated the rich
00:10:38.640wanted to do something about the rich people and set this you know according to prosecutors
00:10:44.640set this fire just from that perspective and obviously when you're at dhs you saw
00:10:51.080uh very many of the same types of people conducting violence against homeland security
00:10:56.360agents, ICE officers, et cetera. Why is it that the media, and you're in California yourself,
00:11:02.940why is it that the media is not talking about this as an act of political violence?
00:11:08.060Right. We have Gavin Newsom calling it, you know, something's wrong. It's global warming. You have
00:11:13.800Karen Bass deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, Jack. And really what this is, is exactly what
00:11:19.120you said there is a systematic and consistent uh spell of left-wing violence where people think
00:11:26.820that they can go take retaliation out on people that they don't like whether it's the wealthy in
00:11:32.880the pacific palisades or i think he had a girlfriend that lived in or an ex-girlfriend
00:11:37.240that lived in the pacific palisades and and set this fire and destroyed all of these lives but
00:11:41.940really getting to the heart of why and how are these people and and it goes to attempted
00:11:47.880assassinations right like we had two people out of california jack one who attempted to assassinate
00:11:53.640justice kavanaugh and then the other one just recently at the white house correspondence dinner
00:11:58.040the attempted assassin of president trump right out out of california so this left-wing uh extremism
00:12:05.860is brewing and really replicating this mentality that people can just take it take violence in
00:12:12.020their own hands and effectuate whatever crime they want on leaders they don't like or people
00:12:17.480they don't like or a whole group of wealthy people that they are unhappy with, Jack.
00:12:22.880No, it's very, very disturbing. When we look at the trend, though, it does seem, as you say,
00:12:30.500to be something that has gone on and been on the rise. Why is it, though, that we're not seeing
00:12:36.140any of this play across the media? I haven't seen anyone other than conservative media,
00:12:41.660and even then, not very much, just in print, really, digital, talk about this as an act of
00:12:47.100political violence. Because, again, they're not talking about even the attempted assassination of
00:12:53.280President Trump as political violence, Jack. They're saying, you know, there was security
00:12:57.000breaches and, oh, we're going to apologize for the bad prison conditions that this guy was in.
00:13:02.180We're not actually going to get to the heart of what is spurring on the political violence,
00:13:06.100because then we actually have to address, oh, the radical indoctrination that's happening in
00:13:11.000our schools, the leftist violence, like from Jimmy Kimmel, basically telling Melania, you know,
00:13:16.600she could be a widow and a whole other host of extreme leftists that have no problem spewing
00:13:23.820violent rhetoric. And that just brings us back to Los Angeles County and the violent rhetoric
00:13:28.660from our own Karen Bass against the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers that led to
00:13:33.760widespread violence last summer and violence against all of the ICE agents that were just
00:13:38.300simply enforcing rule of logic. They don't want to address that there is extremism because then
00:13:44.920they have to get to the bottom of it. And they don't want to do that because it's coming from
00:13:48.980their party and one party alone. We don't have this happening from the right to the left. It's
00:13:53.440all from the left to the right. No. And it's very unfortunate when you see these studies that come
00:13:59.780out that purport to talk about this, those studies always, you know, say, oh, we're not going to
00:14:04.160include the, you know, assassination attempts on president Trump, or we're not going to include
00:14:08.480the assassination of Charlie Kirk, or we're not going to include these, these very extremely
00:14:12.360high profile acts of political violence because they always seem to find some way to, uh, to wipe
00:14:18.240them off of the data set. And meanwhile, you see things like this, again, 25 billion in damage.
00:14:26.000Talk to us about how powerful the Pacific, I mean, I know you're there in California.
00:14:31.760Talk to us about just how powerful and heartbreaking it was to go through that.
00:14:36.220Well, Jack, it's actually 250 billion of wildfire damage is what happened at 250 billion. It's the single largest and most expensive natural disaster or not so natural disaster in United States history. And that's under Gavin Newsom's watch.
00:14:52.760And I'm going to go back a little bit in history before we hit the Palisades.
00:14:57.080President Trump, during the Paradise Fire up in Northern California, warned Gavin Newsom,
00:15:03.780if you do not start deforestation, brush clearance, and start filling your reservoirs, this was
00:15:09.200in 2018, you are going to have a disastrous wildfire situation on your hands.
00:15:15.040And do you think he gave heed to any of that advice from President Trump in 2018?
00:15:19.420Well, Jack, the evidence speaks for itself.
00:15:21.260we wouldn't be here today if he actually took that seriously, but he was made fun of.
00:15:26.040They literally made fun of President Trump for giving the governor advice on how to prevent
00:15:31.940wildfires. And now he's overseeing $250 billion of wildfire damage just in the Palisades.
00:15:38.760Simultaneously, we had Altadena and Pasadena happening. And what is so disturbing is not,
00:15:45.340is is not yes this happened jack but we had mare bass in ghana and i'm telling you i got this
00:15:52.500warning of these high winds five or six days in advance of these fires so we knew these devastating
00:15:59.580winds were coming they come every year they're called the santa ana winds and i've been i'm a
00:16:04.980native californian i went to pepperdine we had these winds happen every single year at the same
00:16:09.300time governor governor newsom knew this was happening he didn't call his mare back from ghana
00:16:14.860so there was no leadership there was no uh really inspection of the reservoir that could have helped
00:16:21.640you know put out some of these fires and fill the fire hydrants no jack it has been time and time
00:16:27.440again negligence negligence negligence and in my opinion it rises to the level of criminal negligence
00:16:33.600because all of the factors were happening and there were people that knew exactly what was
00:16:38.460about to come down the pipeline and they did nothing to prevent it nothing and then people
00:16:43.080don't necessarily remember is right after that, Jack, we had floods that took out whatever the
00:16:48.920fires didn't take out. They didn't clear or do any preventative measures for the massive rainfall we
00:16:55.040were about to get. And then the floods took out like Dukes down in Malibu and a lot of homes that
00:16:59.840survived the fires were taken out by the floods. I mean, this is catastrophic leadership of
00:17:05.120California. Well, and as people need to remember, and I've brought this up a couple of times on
00:17:12.400Twitter where Karen Bass is someone who, in her youth, was actually a member of a Marxist
00:17:19.620organization that participated in training down in Cuba that was funded by Castro. I mean,
00:17:26.840you can't make this stuff up. She's an actual card-carrying Marxist. This isn't like one of
00:17:31.840those times where I say, hey, this person's acting like one. She actually was a member
00:17:35.000of a Marxist revolutionary brigade. And I'm just going to say it over and over,
00:17:39.760what are Marxists always committed to? Destruction. They are committed to destroying
00:17:44.940the system. They are committed to destroying the great cities, cities like Pacific Palisades,
00:17:50.820cities like Los Angeles. And then when you see things like this and we find out that it was
00:17:54.840another guy who was deeply committed to the same ideology or at least, you know, a fervent adherent
00:18:00.700in that moment, it really does raise the question of what is going on in this country.
00:18:06.440and why aren't these leaders fighting for their city fighting for their state why aren't they
00:18:13.560wanting to protect american citizens it goes to the sanctuary jurisdiction and i've said it and
00:18:19.180i will say it until i'm blue in the face every single sanctuary jurisdiction and sanctuary state
00:18:24.620and sanctuary policy or area that has a sanctuary policy needs to come under fervent review needs to
00:18:31.680have federal funding withheld immediately and needs to have all of the voting, uh, voting
00:18:38.280audited and needs to require a full review of everything happening because these are
00:18:44.740the literal jurisdictions that think they are above the logic and they continue to operate.
00:18:50.060So they're not working on behalf of American tax paying citizens. They're not working on
00:18:54.960behalf of me. My governor decided that paying for illegal criminal, illegal aliens, healthcare,
00:19:31.100All right, Jack Soaker back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and going through some more information that's come out now regarding the suspect, Jonathan Rindernacht, this also known as John Rinder or Jonathan Rinder, this individual who, again, set a fire that ended up burning down the entire Pacific Palisades.
00:19:58.280according to the investigation he was the only person in a remote hidden trailhead area according
00:20:04.840to cell phone data video from fire sensing cameras and gps put him there he hiked up after an uber
00:20:12.180shift took a uh 360 degree video apparently after setting the fire he reportedly repeatedly tried
00:20:20.080calling 911 reported the fire once connected but fled uh and returned to film firefighters he asked
00:20:26.980chat GPT right after. Are you at fault if a fire is lit because of your cigarettes? He also screen
00:20:33.400recorded his attempts, which prosecutors saw as trying to create an innocent explanation.
00:20:39.580He then, but then they found lighters and other information that was able to connect him directly
00:20:45.740from this. And this is really interesting. There's a lot of chat GPT angles in all this.
00:20:51.420I want to bring Katie Zachary on because Katie, not only were you a former DHS official, but you're
00:20:55.540also the general counsel for fix california and so obviously a case that you have been uh studying
00:21:02.160very directly and very closely but in in general a state that's management that you're quite
00:21:07.460familiar with what does it say to us though now that we know that apparently he may have looked
00:21:13.820up how to burn down the pacific palisades or at least set this fire on chat gpt and we got no
00:21:19.820warning from the folks who run ChatGPT? Well, I mean, from a pure criminal law standpoint,
00:21:27.420Jack, you're looking at mens rea, you're looking at intent, right? That the first thing is that
00:21:31.900this was premeditated. He went there, obviously, with the intent to burn it down. It wasn't,
00:21:37.220I'm on a hike, I threw my cigarette out, and then all of a sudden this fire happened,
00:21:42.100and then I called the firefighters. No, this shows a very clear, systematic, and clear intent that he
00:21:48.780went to go set this fire which brings makes him criminally liable not negligent and then the the
00:21:54.640truth is behind this guy is jack i love the way you always put everything so clearly together you
00:22:00.840you you you connect him to the rest of the leftist extremism right this is his reaction and hostility
00:22:08.240towards a group of people and this is he is one in the same and when you start listing out all of
00:22:13.540the leftist and kind of angry leftist guys that are perpetrating or perpetuating crimes against
00:22:19.860either our leaders or Charlie Kirk or an entire group in the Palisades. You see this type of
00:22:26.320individual time and time again, young, disgruntled male. And that's what we saw as well with Luigi
00:22:34.740Maggioni. That's what we saw with Thomas Matthew Crooks that we see with Tyler Robinson. That is
00:22:41.100what we see in this case. That's what we see in a variety of cases. Cole Thomas Allen as well.
00:22:47.340Although, you know, in many of these cases, specifically Maggioni and Cole Allen, you don't
00:22:54.720have these inciting incidents like economics or bad relationships or anything like this. You just
00:23:01.140see a direct regurgitation of left-wing ideology and left-wing talking points where they go out
00:23:07.460and decide to commit this act of violence because of their ideology, period, full stop.
00:23:12.540Now, in this case, as you say, this Antifa loser who's running around driving Uber,
00:23:20.000and by the way, I don't have a problem with people who drive Uber, but he apparently did.
00:23:23.900He thought that he deserved more in life.
00:23:27.160Had a girlfriend who used to live in the Pacific Palisades area, dumped him right before New Year's Eve.
00:23:32.480He has a snap and then he decides to set a fire up in up on this trail.
00:23:38.540And then the fire got way larger than he realized.
00:23:41.820But actually, you know, Katie, as I'm looking at this document and putting these these documents together, I'm actually thinking he to your point about Men's Rea, he may have intended to burn down Pacific Palisades from the very start.
00:23:53.700well when you look at the combining factors of as i said earlier the santa anna winds and the
00:24:00.480five six day warning that we had that these would be gale force historically high winds and you go
00:24:09.240set a fire in probably one of the most uh honestly dense in terms of in terms of brush
00:24:16.820and and and the mountains that surround the pacific palisades have not been cleared
00:24:22.360and jack i think it was like they were saying 40 or 50 years there were there was no brush
00:24:28.140clearance and we're talking dense poison oak oak trees weeds growing all the way across that place
00:24:35.380and so this was an inferno and you can't look at the dry mountainous region of california
00:24:41.020and know the winds are coming and think that lighting a match isn't going to create absolute
00:24:46.240chaos. And Jack, that fire burned for days and weeks. I remember just driving and looking at
00:24:52.860those black plumes of smoke continuing to billow over the mountain range from where I live, which
00:24:58.920is just on the other side of the Santa Monica mountain range, and wondering, are we going to
00:25:03.420be evacuated? Are they even ever going to be able to get this fire under control? Because the winds
00:25:08.420kept coming. And when you have the combination of fire and high wind, the firefighters are at
00:25:14.000100% disadvantage of being able to contain it. I look at this and I ask, we need to take this
00:25:27.060more seriously as a country. This isn't a political thing. It's political in terms of motive, but
00:25:35.200I'm sure that a fire, just the same as the White House Correspondence Center, a fire doesn't
00:25:41.020differentiate between uh republican or conservative or uh white black or whatever it's it's it's going
00:25:49.540to destroy everything in its path and my my fear is that people are not taking this seriously katie
00:25:54.280they're not taking it seriously but there's been so many warnings there's the attempted
00:25:58.660assassination as you said in butler we saw charlie kirk assassinated and i we need to mention the guy
00:26:04.600who was murdered or not murdered the guy who attempted to murder uh president trump at mar-a-lago
00:26:10.060where I was, and thank God President Trump wasn't there, but he was shot down by the
00:26:15.280Secret Service and neutralized because he had a shotgun and a gas canister trying to
00:27:57.240You're talking all about, now I know this is State Senator.
00:28:00.080This is State Senator Lisa Baker of Pennsylvania's 20th District.
00:28:04.840What is it that, and why is it that it's so important that we're looking at this in terms
00:28:10.400of what she's doing for a social media application that she's trying to push in schools?
00:28:14.020Well, I think it points to a bigger problem, which is Republicans that often say the talking points, they say they're against a woke ideology, they're against transgenders in men and women's sports.
00:28:27.580But then they go and they support laws, they support social media applications that are being put at our schools that actually push transgender ideology.
00:28:37.220And that's what we're seeing in the case of Lisa Baker.
00:28:39.840She supported an application named Couth USA, which basically allowed grown men to speak to children about sexual orientation.
00:28:48.100And this was proven that it could be done.
00:28:50.320And these state senators, Republican state senator, supported that application.
00:28:56.060So so hold on a second. So walk us through what is this application and what does it have to do with with schools?
00:29:02.580Like, what do you mean they're using social media in schools? I understand this.
00:29:05.240So Kuth USA is a UK-based company that has a mental health platform. That's what they call it. On that mental health platform, they offer counseling services. They also offer chat forums where kids can come together and speak anonymously about things like sexual orientation, even their politics, and other issues about maybe they're feeling suicidal or they have other mental health issues.
00:29:30.820They could speak about all that in these forums on this application named Couth USA.
00:29:37.840The problem is that they have a policy of affirmation, meaning that if a little girl thinks that they're a boy, the only people who can speak to that person are people who are going to say, you're correct in thinking that.
00:29:55.860And another problem with Kuth USA is that grown men could make an account with Kuth USA and access those forums and talk to the children about things like their sexual orientation.
00:30:11.900So, okay, I'm sure I wrap my head around this.
00:30:14.980So the idea here is that this is kind of taking the place of like the school counselor.
00:30:18.760like every like schools usually have like a school counselor sometimes they call it a guidance
00:30:22.740counselor but but they could be for other things obviously as we know and you know i never had one
00:30:28.820until i was like high school i guess but yeah this is this is now taking that idea and putting it
00:30:34.840into an online space where people were kids you know can then go on and how do they even know
00:30:41.740to your point they could have adults on there that aren't aren't necessarily on but uh how do
00:30:47.700they even know that the people that they're talking to are licensed practitioners or other
00:30:51.900Americans? I mean, this just seems like a massive invasion of privacy, even beyond the fact that
00:30:57.400there's a policy of allowing affirmation of gender. Yeah, well, it is. It's a massive invasion
00:31:03.640of privacy, as you said. And one of the things with these practitioners is they called them
00:31:09.020wellness practitioners and they did not need to be licensed therapists. So it was sold as a cheaper
00:31:15.420solution to the strain that counselors were feeling in Pennsylvania schools.
00:31:20.360Instead of giving the counselors more money and hiring more counselors, the state legislature
00:31:25.320allocated $3 million to the Department of Health and Human Services, who created a $3 million
00:31:30.880grant given to Kuth USA so that kids could log on to the platform and speak to these
00:31:38.040And the thing about these wellness practitioners, as I said, is that nobody knows who they were.
00:31:43.100they were anonymous so they went by pseudonyms like sparrow or pigeon or pig or cow they would
00:31:49.240call themselves a animal and then they would put their pronouns so it could be like you're talking
00:31:53.740to sparrow with they them pronouns about your mental health issues as a child
00:31:59.820and this so so walking back here a little bit who exactly is the person pushing this and and
00:32:07.800sounds like this person is pretty liberal so you'd think they'd be a democrat right
00:32:11.460Yeah. And this is, again, a huge problem. This is a state senator named Lisa Baker, who is a Republican. Now, Lisa Baker has spoken about no men and women's sports, but she's supporting an application like this, which is allowing predators to speak to children and, you know, pushing transgender ideology.
00:32:56.160So we're seeing this a lot where Republican, or we can call them Republicans,
00:33:00.820but really what they are is Republicans in name only. They're rhinos. They get paid.
00:33:06.040Their families get paid. They benefit from higher taxes. They benefit from different policies that,
00:33:12.200you know, a Democrat would support. And they go and they support it. And they just call
00:33:15.840themselves Republicans. And they're not. So this idea, right. And then so is she pushing for this
00:33:22.320to be in every Pennsylvania school? She was. Yes. She was pushing for it to be in every
00:33:27.220Pennsylvania school. There's also another Republican state senator who went on that
00:33:31.120fully funded trip to Arizona, Chris Skibhart. He was also pushing for it to be in different
00:33:37.040Pennsylvania school districts. So they were really trying to expand it to every school district. Now,
00:33:42.140it got canceled in Pennsylvania. But what happened after it was piloted in Pennsylvania
00:33:46.120is that it got picked up in other states like California and New Jersey. So what they did,
00:33:53.120what these Republican state senators did was they gave this woke application a way to get in the
00:34:00.640United States. And now it's spreading throughout the country and it's going to do a lot of harm
00:34:04.680to our children. And by the way, I see that Kuth USA did actually receive a grant for $3 million
00:34:13.780from the Pennsylvania Department of Human Services for a pilot program. That's interesting.
00:34:20.760So that was back in 2022. So that would have been that would have been under Governor Wolf. Am I correct?
00:34:30.020I think so. Yes. Yes. Before Shapiro got in. But was she involved with continuing to continuing to try to push for this program back then?
00:34:40.580Yeah, Lisa Baker still has not condemned the program. We wanted to ask if she would support similar applications in school districts in PA and elsewhere. And she won't answer our question. She has not withdrawn her support for Couth USA. And again, she is a Republican state senator who won't withdraw her support for an application that pushed gender ideology on our kids.
00:35:03.420Yeah, this is crazy. I'm reading some more about the report. So it was actually canceled in 2024. And that the pencil that the department actually canceled it because there were there were lawmakers from all over the state who were saying that this thing is crazy.
00:35:21.420crazy, no parental notification, no parental consent in many implementations. That means if
00:35:27.520you're in a Pennsylvania school, this thing, I'm just reading through it again, this thing,
00:35:31.600your kid has access to it, but you don't even have access to what your kid is doing in it.
00:35:36.500You can't then request these chat logs or these conversations. So there's this anonymity because
00:35:42.800they're not telling you what's in there. They're totally bypassing the parents and it's super
00:35:47.860overcharging what a school district could do. Sure. If there's a counselor, that's someone that
00:35:51.840that's at least a counselor, the parents know the parent, the counselor that the parents could go to
00:35:56.260and say, Hey, you know, what's going on with, you know, my kid, you know, my kid, Jack, Jack and AJ
00:36:02.160are my boys. Right. I'd, I'd want to know if something is going on with my boys. I could
00:36:06.300talk to them. This there's no parental notification at all. And the fact is it's a for profit company
00:36:12.840giving a grant award without any debate was even held in Pennsylvania over this.
00:36:19.500So it just goes to show you that I don't, I got to tell you, man, I don't like that idea to begin
00:36:23.080with. The idea that my kids are going to be online chatting with people that I can't talk to on a
00:36:27.960right now. I don't like that. Even beyond the woke stuff, I'm not, I just don't like that at all.
00:36:32.260So another point is that that $3 million grant, since it was done through a grant from the
00:36:37.480Department of Health and Human Services, it did not need to go through votes in the school boards.
00:36:42.100So I would say, in my opinion, that was done specifically for the purpose to evade parental notification, to stop people from being able to vote on if they wanted the platform into a school district and to roll it out even faster than it would have been.
00:36:56.660So that, I think, was done on purpose because through the grant structure, now you don't need the votes of the different school districts who, when they found out about the application, had a big problem with it.
00:37:07.520And we talked about it being in other states now.
00:37:11.680they've rebranded it to Saluna. So it's no longer Kuth USA. It's Saluna in places like California.
00:37:17.800In California, it's in almost every school district. And they rebranded it because of
00:37:21.880the outrage of Pennsylvania families. Completely insane. Completely nuts. I can't believe this is
00:37:32.940going on. Frank, can you hold on for just one more segment? Because I want to dig some more
00:37:38.380into this and find out more. Let's, let's chat about it. Stay tuned for more Human Events Daily.
00:37:53.880We're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently,
00:37:57.740I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack
00:38:02.020Posobiec. And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:08.380all right folks we're back live here human events daily real america's voice and when
00:38:16.400again we're still with frankie scales talking about lisa baker this program it's it's so
00:38:22.460disturbing to me and i'm i thank god that pennsylvania has taken out this couth usa where
00:38:28.760it's online counseling for children in schools in pennsylvania and they have this in in other
00:38:36.440states as well now where the kids go in and they're doing this you know counseling or ask
00:38:43.020being asked about very serious mental health uh gender questions sexual questions all these
00:38:49.800different things when this is something that quite frankly it shouldn't be brought up in the schools
00:38:55.400it shouldn't be something the schools are supported and if there is something where it happens
00:38:59.980it should be something where they go to a counselor who's someone that they know
00:39:04.680Some of the school knows. And of course, someone who the parents can talk to with this thing.
00:39:10.960It's completely nuts. And the fact that they're throwing money around and you got state senators like this, it just it really smacks of the type of corruption that unfortunately we've seen all too many times in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
00:39:23.380Frankie, you, of course, are no stranger to confronting our public officials, especially in PA and holding their feet to the fire.
00:39:30.920You ever had the opportunity to ask Senator Baker about this?
00:39:34.680So we were outside of one of Senator Lisa Baker's events with the intention to ask her why she
00:39:39.800supported Couth USA. We were waiting outside so long that we actually had to turn our camera off.
00:39:45.540When we did, she got, she left and she sprinted to her car, hopped into the passenger seat and
00:39:53.460someone skirted off. So she's really trying to avoid me at all costs. She does not want to do
00:39:59.920an interview. I went to her office to ask some questions and get comment from her office.
00:40:04.680And somebody in the office wrote on a piece of paper a phone number to call. I called that phone number, and they then told me that the door wasn't open, that they actually couldn't open the door to let me in her office. So they are trying to avoid me. I've never seen anything like it. It is easier to talk to leftists, that protesters, than these fake Republican senators.
00:40:25.960And why is that? Do you think that they're just not used to have anyone ever kind of paying them that level of attention, that level of scrutiny, putting them in the spotlight? Are they just used to kind of flying under the radar?
00:40:40.240I think it's all of them things. I think they're not used to the level of scrutiny. And I think that they don't have an answer. They know what they were doing was wrong. They know that they were benefiting from it. And they know that their base, that the people who vote for them are entirely opposed to Kuth USA, and they would be appalled. So they have literally no defense. All they could do is walk back support.
00:41:04.960But even at that point, well, did you do your due diligence and was your son being a lobbyist
00:41:31.340I then went to one of his events, donor events, and the security there basically threatened to
00:41:38.040trespass me from the building, the Harrisburg Hilton. He wouldn't come out. He basically
00:41:43.200alerted security that Frank Scales is going to be coming. I don't want to talk to him and he's
00:41:48.560not invited. Kick him out if he comes. And he gave them a description of me to stop me from
00:41:54.540entering the building he gives a description of you i mean it's just it's it's so ridiculous
00:42:01.800and plus and i wanted to ask you you know switch gears here just last couple minutes
00:42:05.600is that um you had this you were up in new york for the mayday again dealing with hanging out
00:42:11.860with the communists hanging out with the bolsheviks up there and you got a video and
00:42:15.820unfortunately we don't have the video on us but people can i'm sure it can go to find it on your
00:42:22.080Facebook and others where someone not only kind of got in your face, but also brought up Charlie
00:42:27.740Kirk. Yeah. So somebody said, are you scared of dying like Charlie Kirk? Because what you're
00:42:34.060doing is what Charlie Kirk was doing, basically putting the responsibility on Charlie Kirk that
00:42:39.360he shouldn't have been having debates. So they were telling me, since you're having these
00:42:43.560discussions with people, do you fear that you're going to get shot or killed? And, you know,
00:42:49.120My response was, it is a real concern because we see so much political violence on the left, but it is not going to stop me because my forefathers, the forefathers of this country and the people who came before me, they sacrificed everything, their life, liberty, and their sacred honor for this country and this country's posterity.
00:43:11.280and i think we have a responsibility to do the same thing so serge philly i will never stop being
00:43:17.520out there at the protests and asking them simply why are they protesting why do you disagree with
00:43:23.200the trump administration what is fascism these are really important questions that they can't answer
00:43:28.240and they're resorting to political violence now yeah and you see this over and over and and
00:43:33.920unfortunately you know the political violence is on the rise and what's what's interesting to me
00:43:39.520is that when you talk to the left about what happened to Charlie, they seem to be in complete
00:43:47.720lockstep about it, that yes, he was killed for his political beliefs by people who have our
00:43:55.220political beliefs. So it's, it's very interesting to me because you'll see the media will try to
00:43:59.600obfuscate this. And, you know, I remember people saying, Oh, or Barack Obama with this latest
00:44:04.360White House correspondence shooter saying, you know, we were not really sure what is, what his
00:44:08.120motive would have been, even though he had a manifesto, he's very clear, his Twitter account
00:44:12.420was there, his Blue Sky account was right there. It's very clear what his motive was, that he hated
00:44:16.660Trump and he hated conservatives. But when you talk to the actual communists themselves,
00:44:21.900they tell you right away, don't they? Yeah, they do, right away. And one of the things that you'll
00:44:26.760see with many of the communists is that they do support political violence. It's not going to be
00:44:31.340them. I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't like violence. But when somebody does commit violence
00:44:37.460against my political enemies, I support that. And that's, that's kind of their belief. And it's
00:44:42.360very cowardly. That is the overwhelming theme I see with these people is that they're cowards.
00:44:48.840Well, and that's right. And what they're, they're hoping for, and this is why they use the black
00:44:52.200blocks many cases. And we were on here yesterday to talk about that, how they'll hope that one
00:44:57.660person will sort of be able to cross the line. And then everybody dresses up in black block like
00:45:02.840that so that they can help aid, you know, before and after the, the event itself, that the person
00:45:07.960can then come back inside. So we had a colleague, Katie Davis court, who was assaulted with a rock
00:45:12.400at this Antifa thing in Portland. And the issue that they were having so far, FBI is involved,
00:45:18.400but the issue that they were having so far was that it was hard to identify the person because
00:45:23.000that's exactly what they did. They were dressed in black. Then they ran back into the crowd.
00:45:27.300That's full of black, full, you know, black block. It's a blurry video is the only one that
00:45:31.660we have to identify the person so again this is their tactic and it has been their tactic that
00:45:37.820they will go out and they will commit these things but then knowing that only one or two of them
00:45:42.760three or four depending on the situation are going to commit the actual violence the point is
00:45:47.880the whole group infrastructure is there in place on purpose so that violence can occur so and and
00:45:55.260to you to what you just said it isn't that they don't support it they just don't want to commit
00:45:58.860themselves. Yeah. Yeah. And they actually train to intimidate people. They train to push away
00:46:05.260journalists and media that they're not favorable to. And they train in a way to where they can do
00:46:09.660it. They can lock arms and they can stop people from having their freedom of movement. And they
00:46:14.680have done it to me many times, but they do it in a way to where they avoid and evade police detection
00:46:22.000and they go right to the edge to where the police can't really do anything to them,
00:46:26.800But they are managing to violate my rights and other journalists' rights.
00:46:32.220And that is like a lesser example of the same thing.
00:46:34.760But these people train to, you know, have violent demonstrations.
00:46:39.180They train to take away people's rights in ways to where they don't get caught.
00:46:43.500And that brings up a very important question, which is—
00:46:46.800Or as you can say, what they want to do is they want to walk right—what you're saying,
00:46:49.920they want to walk right up to that line without crossing it while trying to provoke you
00:46:54.420so that you'll cross the line and then they get to pretend that they're the victims exactly yeah
00:46:59.420that's part of it and this all leads to a bigger question is at what point are these demonstrations
00:47:04.460unlawful and i think that's an important question we have to start asking more
00:47:08.380well it's it's clearly unlawful when there's there's a conspiracy to commit the violence
00:47:13.940beforehand that's what makes it unlawful so you don't have to wait until they get out there you
00:47:18.760can start doing this while it's in the conspiracy phase but we are all out of time today for that
00:47:24.000Frankie Scales, where can people follow you, brother?