Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Pacific Palisades Fire Ignited By Antifa Arsonist and Fueled By Mangionism

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00:02:51.080 29-year-old Jonathan Rindernacht was taken into custody

00:02:54.460 and is charged with setting a small fire on New Year's Day that burned underground,

00:02:59.640 eventually erupting a week later into the Palisades Fire that devastated the wealthy neighborhood.

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00:03:19.500 Folks, we need to talk about the Pacific Palisades fire bug, the arsonist who was arrested for committing those fires.

00:03:30.460 Now, here's what people need to actually realize.

00:03:34.420 Did you even know that the Pacific Palisades were committed by an arsonist?

00:03:39.060 This fire was committed by an arsonist.

00:03:40.600 people don't realize this because I haven't heard the mainstream media bringing this up at all. I

00:03:45.480 haven't heard this being a huge detail. His name is Jonathan Rindernecht, and he is accused of

00:03:54.480 having started these fires. Federal prosecutors, according to Postmillennial, allege that the 30

00:04:01.200 year old Rindernecht was upset over a past relationship with a former coworker and angry

00:04:06.380 about not having plans on New Year's Eve prior to the fire. While working as an Uber driver,

00:04:12.640 passengers of his claimed that he displayed erratic behavior that night, describing him as

00:04:16.700 angry, driving recklessly, and ranting about his frustration with the world. This is according to

00:04:23.080 local news. They said that he had obsession with fire, but also an obsession with, and you're

00:04:28.920 going to love this, an obsession with Luigi Maggioni, the man accused of murdering United

00:04:36.000 Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. During an interview on January 2025, Renderneck was reportedly asked

00:04:43.480 why someone might commit arson in the Palisades. He responded that it could be done, quote,

00:04:48.640 out of resentment of the rich enjoying their money as we're basically being enslaved by them.

00:04:55.440 Investigators also allege that Rendernecks search online for phrases relating to Mangione in the weeks before the Lockman fire, including free Luigi Mangione.

00:05:05.860 Let's take down all the billionaires. Reddit, let's K.I.L.L. all the billionaires.

00:05:11.940 And this was weeks before the Lockman fire. He was obsessed with Mangione.

00:05:18.100 He was driving around in his Uber ranting about Mangione.

00:05:23.400 How many times have I said this?

00:05:26.580 You will get MAGA or you will get Maggioni. 0.60

00:05:29.600 The children of Maggioni will be the assassins and the killers of the future.

00:05:36.040 These are the people driven by envy, by anger, by resentment.

00:05:42.240 They are the ones that are driven by this hatred.

00:05:46.440 It is not about equality.

00:05:48.540 It is not about getting a fair shake or a fair share.

00:05:51.940 It is about their own poor, demented, and twisted selfishness, a selfishness that they

00:06:00.920 believe entitles them to do whatever they want in this world to whoever they want in

00:06:05.460 this world.

00:06:07.220 It is a selfishness and an envy and an anger and not being able to get what they wanted

00:06:13.680 or not being able to do whatever they feel like in life, not being able to take responsibility

00:06:21.920 for their own actions and decisions.

00:06:25.040 And so what do they do?

00:06:26.720 They take it out on others.

00:06:29.100 They take it out on, quote unquote, the rich.

00:06:33.000 They take it out on the people of the Pacific Palisades.

00:06:39.100 Think about how many families lost everything in this fire.

00:06:43.500 Think about how many people lost everything in this fire.

00:06:47.900 And yet, you don't hear this.

00:06:50.640 You don't hear that this was done by a left-wing terrorist who was hell-bent on delivering, quote-unquote, revenge to the people he viewed as his political enemies.

00:07:07.600 Pay attention, folks, because the Mangiones are growing.

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00:09:00.100 844-577-7676. All right. So I wanted to talk more about the Pacific Palisades fire and the

00:09:08.400 fact that so many people are not linking this to the series of left-wing violence and left-wing

00:09:15.220 attacks that we've seen in this country, even though it's right there in black and white for

00:09:20.180 all of us to see. And even if you just take the Pacific Palisades, because there were other fires

00:09:25.900 at that time, this was 25 days, 23,000 acres, at least 12 deaths that we know of.

00:09:35.960 Plus, there was a JAMA study that said 440 died in terms of excess-related death, smoke inhalation, this type of thing, seven missing people, 105,000 evacuated, 6,837 buildings damaged, or excuse me, structures destroyed, and then $25 billion, $25 billion in terms of damage.

00:10:05.120 I want to bring on now former DHS official Katie Zachariah here to the program to kind of help break all this down.

00:10:12.920 Katie, how are you? Excellent, Jack. How are you?

00:10:17.240 I'm good. But, you know, so I'm reading through this document.

00:10:21.640 And again, this is just the charging document that's out.

00:10:24.640 And of course, alleged innocent before we guilty.

00:10:27.840 And yet we see this information, 30 year old Jonathan Rindernecht,

00:10:32.200 who was this uber driver who was resentful at the world he in his own words hated the rich

00:10:38.640 wanted to do something about the rich people and set this you know according to prosecutors

00:10:44.640 set this fire just from that perspective and obviously when you're at dhs you saw

00:10:51.080 uh very many of the same types of people conducting violence against homeland security

00:10:56.360 agents, ICE officers, et cetera. Why is it that the media, and you're in California yourself,

00:11:02.940 why is it that the media is not talking about this as an act of political violence?

00:11:08.060 Right. We have Gavin Newsom calling it, you know, something's wrong. It's global warming. You have

00:11:13.800 Karen Bass deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, Jack. And really what this is, is exactly what

00:11:19.120 you said there is a systematic and consistent uh spell of left-wing violence where people think

00:11:26.820 that they can go take retaliation out on people that they don't like whether it's the wealthy in

00:11:32.880 the pacific palisades or i think he had a girlfriend that lived in or an ex-girlfriend

00:11:37.240 that lived in the pacific palisades and and set this fire and destroyed all of these lives but

00:11:41.940 really getting to the heart of why and how are these people and and it goes to attempted

00:11:47.880 assassinations right like we had two people out of california jack one who attempted to assassinate

00:11:53.640 justice kavanaugh and then the other one just recently at the white house correspondence dinner

00:11:58.040 the attempted assassin of president trump right out out of california so this left-wing uh extremism

00:12:05.860 is brewing and really replicating this mentality that people can just take it take violence in

00:12:12.020 their own hands and effectuate whatever crime they want on leaders they don't like or people

00:12:17.480 they don't like or a whole group of wealthy people that they are unhappy with, Jack.

00:12:22.880 No, it's very, very disturbing. When we look at the trend, though, it does seem, as you say,

00:12:30.500 to be something that has gone on and been on the rise. Why is it, though, that we're not seeing

00:12:36.140 any of this play across the media? I haven't seen anyone other than conservative media,

00:12:41.660 and even then, not very much, just in print, really, digital, talk about this as an act of

00:12:47.100 political violence. Because, again, they're not talking about even the attempted assassination of

00:12:53.280 President Trump as political violence, Jack. They're saying, you know, there was security

00:12:57.000 breaches and, oh, we're going to apologize for the bad prison conditions that this guy was in.

00:13:02.180 We're not actually going to get to the heart of what is spurring on the political violence,

00:13:06.100 because then we actually have to address, oh, the radical indoctrination that's happening in

00:13:11.000 our schools, the leftist violence, like from Jimmy Kimmel, basically telling Melania, you know,

00:13:16.600 she could be a widow and a whole other host of extreme leftists that have no problem spewing 0.95

00:13:23.820 violent rhetoric. And that just brings us back to Los Angeles County and the violent rhetoric

00:13:28.660 from our own Karen Bass against the Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers that led to

00:13:33.760 widespread violence last summer and violence against all of the ICE agents that were just

00:13:38.300 simply enforcing rule of logic. They don't want to address that there is extremism because then

00:13:44.920 they have to get to the bottom of it. And they don't want to do that because it's coming from

00:13:48.980 their party and one party alone. We don't have this happening from the right to the left. It's

00:13:53.440 all from the left to the right. No. And it's very unfortunate when you see these studies that come

00:13:59.780 out that purport to talk about this, those studies always, you know, say, oh, we're not going to

00:14:04.160 include the, you know, assassination attempts on president Trump, or we're not going to include

00:14:08.480 the assassination of Charlie Kirk, or we're not going to include these, these very extremely

00:14:12.360 high profile acts of political violence because they always seem to find some way to, uh, to wipe

00:14:18.240 them off of the data set. And meanwhile, you see things like this, again, 25 billion in damage.

00:14:26.000 Talk to us about how powerful the Pacific, I mean, I know you're there in California.

00:14:31.760 Talk to us about just how powerful and heartbreaking it was to go through that.

00:14:36.220 Well, Jack, it's actually 250 billion of wildfire damage is what happened at 250 billion. It's the single largest and most expensive natural disaster or not so natural disaster in United States history. And that's under Gavin Newsom's watch.

00:14:52.760 And I'm going to go back a little bit in history before we hit the Palisades.

00:14:57.080 President Trump, during the Paradise Fire up in Northern California, warned Gavin Newsom,

00:15:03.780 if you do not start deforestation, brush clearance, and start filling your reservoirs, this was

00:15:09.200 in 2018, you are going to have a disastrous wildfire situation on your hands.

00:15:15.040 And do you think he gave heed to any of that advice from President Trump in 2018?

00:15:19.420 Well, Jack, the evidence speaks for itself.

00:15:21.260 we wouldn't be here today if he actually took that seriously, but he was made fun of.

00:15:26.040 They literally made fun of President Trump for giving the governor advice on how to prevent

00:15:31.940 wildfires. And now he's overseeing $250 billion of wildfire damage just in the Palisades.

00:15:38.760 Simultaneously, we had Altadena and Pasadena happening. And what is so disturbing is not,

00:15:45.340 is is not yes this happened jack but we had mare bass in ghana and i'm telling you i got this

00:15:52.500 warning of these high winds five or six days in advance of these fires so we knew these devastating

00:15:59.580 winds were coming they come every year they're called the santa ana winds and i've been i'm a

00:16:04.980 native californian i went to pepperdine we had these winds happen every single year at the same

00:16:09.300 time governor governor newsom knew this was happening he didn't call his mare back from ghana

00:16:14.860 so there was no leadership there was no uh really inspection of the reservoir that could have helped

00:16:21.640 you know put out some of these fires and fill the fire hydrants no jack it has been time and time

00:16:27.440 again negligence negligence negligence and in my opinion it rises to the level of criminal negligence

00:16:33.600 because all of the factors were happening and there were people that knew exactly what was

00:16:38.460 about to come down the pipeline and they did nothing to prevent it nothing and then people

00:16:43.080 don't necessarily remember is right after that, Jack, we had floods that took out whatever the

00:16:48.920 fires didn't take out. They didn't clear or do any preventative measures for the massive rainfall we

00:16:55.040 were about to get. And then the floods took out like Dukes down in Malibu and a lot of homes that

00:16:59.840 survived the fires were taken out by the floods. I mean, this is catastrophic leadership of

00:17:05.120 California. Well, and as people need to remember, and I've brought this up a couple of times on

00:17:12.400 Twitter where Karen Bass is someone who, in her youth, was actually a member of a Marxist

00:17:19.620 organization that participated in training down in Cuba that was funded by Castro. I mean,

00:17:26.840 you can't make this stuff up. She's an actual card-carrying Marxist. This isn't like one of 1.00

00:17:31.840 those times where I say, hey, this person's acting like one. She actually was a member

00:17:35.000 of a Marxist revolutionary brigade. And I'm just going to say it over and over,

00:17:39.760 what are Marxists always committed to? Destruction. They are committed to destroying

00:17:44.940 the system. They are committed to destroying the great cities, cities like Pacific Palisades,

00:17:50.820 cities like Los Angeles. And then when you see things like this and we find out that it was

00:17:54.840 another guy who was deeply committed to the same ideology or at least, you know, a fervent adherent

00:18:00.700 in that moment, it really does raise the question of what is going on in this country.

00:18:06.440 and why aren't these leaders fighting for their city fighting for their state why aren't they

00:18:13.560 wanting to protect american citizens it goes to the sanctuary jurisdiction and i've said it and

00:18:19.180 i will say it until i'm blue in the face every single sanctuary jurisdiction and sanctuary state

00:18:24.620 and sanctuary policy or area that has a sanctuary policy needs to come under fervent review needs to

00:18:31.680 have federal funding withheld immediately and needs to have all of the voting, uh, voting

00:18:38.280 audited and needs to require a full review of everything happening because these are

00:18:44.740 the literal jurisdictions that think they are above the logic and they continue to operate.

00:18:50.060 So they're not working on behalf of American tax paying citizens. They're not working on

00:18:54.960 behalf of me. My governor decided that paying for illegal criminal, illegal aliens, healthcare,

00:19:01.100 and gender surgeries

00:19:02.780 was more important 1.00

00:19:03.760 than putting money

00:19:04.820 into public school systems

00:19:06.260 in California.

00:19:07.120 Katie Zachariah, 1.00

00:19:07.900 give us one second.

00:19:09.020 We're going to take

00:19:09.560 a quick break,

00:19:10.840 but hold it right there

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00:19:31.100 All right, Jack Soaker back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and going through some more information that's come out now regarding the suspect, Jonathan Rindernacht, this also known as John Rinder or Jonathan Rinder, this individual who, again, set a fire that ended up burning down the entire Pacific Palisades.

00:19:58.280 according to the investigation he was the only person in a remote hidden trailhead area according

00:20:04.840 to cell phone data video from fire sensing cameras and gps put him there he hiked up after an uber

00:20:12.180 shift took a uh 360 degree video apparently after setting the fire he reportedly repeatedly tried

00:20:20.080 calling 911 reported the fire once connected but fled uh and returned to film firefighters he asked

00:20:26.980 chat GPT right after. Are you at fault if a fire is lit because of your cigarettes? He also screen

00:20:33.400 recorded his attempts, which prosecutors saw as trying to create an innocent explanation.

00:20:39.580 He then, but then they found lighters and other information that was able to connect him directly

00:20:45.740 from this. And this is really interesting. There's a lot of chat GPT angles in all this.

00:20:51.420 I want to bring Katie Zachary on because Katie, not only were you a former DHS official, but you're

00:20:55.540 also the general counsel for fix california and so obviously a case that you have been uh studying

00:21:02.160 very directly and very closely but in in general a state that's management that you're quite

00:21:07.460 familiar with what does it say to us though now that we know that apparently he may have looked

00:21:13.820 up how to burn down the pacific palisades or at least set this fire on chat gpt and we got no

00:21:19.820 warning from the folks who run ChatGPT? Well, I mean, from a pure criminal law standpoint,

00:21:27.420 Jack, you're looking at mens rea, you're looking at intent, right? That the first thing is that

00:21:31.900 this was premeditated. He went there, obviously, with the intent to burn it down. It wasn't,

00:21:37.220 I'm on a hike, I threw my cigarette out, and then all of a sudden this fire happened,

00:21:42.100 and then I called the firefighters. No, this shows a very clear, systematic, and clear intent that he

00:21:48.780 went to go set this fire which brings makes him criminally liable not negligent and then the the

00:21:54.640 truth is behind this guy is jack i love the way you always put everything so clearly together you

00:22:00.840 you you you connect him to the rest of the leftist extremism right this is his reaction and hostility

00:22:08.240 towards a group of people and this is he is one in the same and when you start listing out all of

00:22:13.540 the leftist and kind of angry leftist guys that are perpetrating or perpetuating crimes against

00:22:19.860 either our leaders or Charlie Kirk or an entire group in the Palisades. You see this type of

00:22:26.320 individual time and time again, young, disgruntled male. And that's what we saw as well with Luigi

00:22:34.740 Maggioni. That's what we saw with Thomas Matthew Crooks that we see with Tyler Robinson. That is

00:22:41.100 what we see in this case. That's what we see in a variety of cases. Cole Thomas Allen as well.

00:22:47.340 Although, you know, in many of these cases, specifically Maggioni and Cole Allen, you don't

00:22:54.720 have these inciting incidents like economics or bad relationships or anything like this. You just

00:23:01.140 see a direct regurgitation of left-wing ideology and left-wing talking points where they go out

00:23:07.460 and decide to commit this act of violence because of their ideology, period, full stop.

00:23:12.540 Now, in this case, as you say, this Antifa loser who's running around driving Uber,

00:23:20.000 and by the way, I don't have a problem with people who drive Uber, but he apparently did.

00:23:23.900 He thought that he deserved more in life.

00:23:27.160 Had a girlfriend who used to live in the Pacific Palisades area, dumped him right before New Year's Eve.

00:23:32.480 He has a snap and then he decides to set a fire up in up on this trail.

00:23:38.540 And then the fire got way larger than he realized.

00:23:41.820 But actually, you know, Katie, as I'm looking at this document and putting these these documents together, I'm actually thinking he to your point about Men's Rea, he may have intended to burn down Pacific Palisades from the very start.

00:23:53.700 well when you look at the combining factors of as i said earlier the santa anna winds and the

00:24:00.480 five six day warning that we had that these would be gale force historically high winds and you go

00:24:09.240 set a fire in probably one of the most uh honestly dense in terms of in terms of brush

00:24:16.820 and and and the mountains that surround the pacific palisades have not been cleared

00:24:22.360 and jack i think it was like they were saying 40 or 50 years there were there was no brush

00:24:28.140 clearance and we're talking dense poison oak oak trees weeds growing all the way across that place

00:24:35.380 and so this was an inferno and you can't look at the dry mountainous region of california

00:24:41.020 and know the winds are coming and think that lighting a match isn't going to create absolute

00:24:46.240 chaos. And Jack, that fire burned for days and weeks. I remember just driving and looking at

00:24:52.860 those black plumes of smoke continuing to billow over the mountain range from where I live, which

00:24:58.920 is just on the other side of the Santa Monica mountain range, and wondering, are we going to

00:25:03.420 be evacuated? Are they even ever going to be able to get this fire under control? Because the winds

00:25:08.420 kept coming. And when you have the combination of fire and high wind, the firefighters are at

00:25:14.000 100% disadvantage of being able to contain it. I look at this and I ask, we need to take this

00:25:27.060 more seriously as a country. This isn't a political thing. It's political in terms of motive, but

00:25:35.200 I'm sure that a fire, just the same as the White House Correspondence Center, a fire doesn't 0.80

00:25:41.020 differentiate between uh republican or conservative or uh white black or whatever it's it's it's going 0.94

00:25:49.540 to destroy everything in its path and my my fear is that people are not taking this seriously katie 0.95

00:25:54.280 they're not taking it seriously but there's been so many warnings there's the attempted

00:25:58.660 assassination as you said in butler we saw charlie kirk assassinated and i we need to mention the guy

00:26:04.600 who was murdered or not murdered the guy who attempted to murder uh president trump at mar-a-lago

00:26:10.060 where I was, and thank God President Trump wasn't there, but he was shot down by the

00:26:15.280 Secret Service and neutralized because he had a shotgun and a gas canister trying to

00:26:20.200 get to the president.

00:26:21.480 And this is time and time again, though, Jack, like this systematic and very clear, there

00:26:26.860 is a young man, we're looking at like usually between the ages of young 20s to early 30s

00:26:33.180 with hostilities and left-wing ideology.

00:26:35.740 and we have to start getting to the bottom of this

00:26:39.420 or it's going to continue on.

00:26:41.180 We're going to keep seeing this.

00:26:45.020 Oh, exactly.

00:26:46.120 That's exactly right.

00:26:46.800 Katie Zachariah, where can people go to follow you?

00:26:49.400 Katie Zachariah on X or Instagram, LinkedIn as well.

00:26:54.240 All right, make sure to give her a follow, folks.

00:26:56.520 And Katie, I hope you come back soon.

00:26:57.860 Right back here at Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:27:05.740 Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:16.380 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're

00:27:21.460 always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who

00:27:26.200 be getting policies all right folks jack was up we're back here human events daily real america's

00:27:36.860 voice want to bring on now frankie scales from surge philly he's got a huge scoop that is rolling

00:27:45.380 all over all over the great state of pennsylvania the commonwealth frankie how you doing man

00:27:50.820 I'm doing well.

00:27:51.560 Thank you for having me.

00:27:53.220 So I've seen this huge thing.

00:27:55.740 It's gone viral.

00:27:57.240 You're talking all about, now I know this is State Senator.

00:28:00.080 This is State Senator Lisa Baker of Pennsylvania's 20th District.

00:28:04.840 What is it that, and why is it that it's so important that we're looking at this in terms

00:28:10.400 of what she's doing for a social media application that she's trying to push in schools?

00:28:14.020 Well, I think it points to a bigger problem, which is Republicans that often say the talking points, they say they're against a woke ideology, they're against transgenders in men and women's sports.

00:28:27.580 But then they go and they support laws, they support social media applications that are being put at our schools that actually push transgender ideology.

00:28:37.220 And that's what we're seeing in the case of Lisa Baker.

00:28:39.840 She supported an application named Couth USA, which basically allowed grown men to speak to children about sexual orientation.

00:28:48.100 And this was proven that it could be done.

00:28:50.320 And these state senators, Republican state senator, supported that application.

00:28:56.060 So so hold on a second. So walk us through what is this application and what does it have to do with with schools?

00:29:02.580 Like, what do you mean they're using social media in schools? I understand this.

00:29:05.240 So Kuth USA is a UK-based company that has a mental health platform. That's what they call it. On that mental health platform, they offer counseling services. They also offer chat forums where kids can come together and speak anonymously about things like sexual orientation, even their politics, and other issues about maybe they're feeling suicidal or they have other mental health issues.

00:29:30.820 They could speak about all that in these forums on this application named Couth USA.

00:29:35.380 So it is a social media application. 0.84

00:29:37.840 The problem is that they have a policy of affirmation, meaning that if a little girl thinks that they're a boy, the only people who can speak to that person are people who are going to say, you're correct in thinking that.

00:29:51.580 Maybe you are a girl. 0.61

00:29:52.600 Maybe you should change genders. 1.00

00:29:54.260 That's what's happening on Couth USA. 0.86

00:29:55.860 And another problem with Kuth USA is that grown men could make an account with Kuth USA and access those forums and talk to the children about things like their sexual orientation.

00:30:11.900 So, okay, I'm sure I wrap my head around this.

00:30:14.980 So the idea here is that this is kind of taking the place of like the school counselor.

00:30:18.760 like every like schools usually have like a school counselor sometimes they call it a guidance

00:30:22.740 counselor but but they could be for other things obviously as we know and you know i never had one

00:30:28.820 until i was like high school i guess but yeah this is this is now taking that idea and putting it

00:30:34.840 into an online space where people were kids you know can then go on and how do they even know

00:30:41.740 to your point they could have adults on there that aren't aren't necessarily on but uh how do

00:30:47.700 they even know that the people that they're talking to are licensed practitioners or other

00:30:51.900 Americans? I mean, this just seems like a massive invasion of privacy, even beyond the fact that

00:30:57.400 there's a policy of allowing affirmation of gender. Yeah, well, it is. It's a massive invasion 0.97

00:31:03.640 of privacy, as you said. And one of the things with these practitioners is they called them

00:31:09.020 wellness practitioners and they did not need to be licensed therapists. So it was sold as a cheaper

00:31:15.420 solution to the strain that counselors were feeling in Pennsylvania schools.

00:31:20.360 Instead of giving the counselors more money and hiring more counselors, the state legislature

00:31:25.320 allocated $3 million to the Department of Health and Human Services, who created a $3 million

00:31:30.880 grant given to Kuth USA so that kids could log on to the platform and speak to these

00:31:36.640 wellness practitioners.

00:31:38.040 And the thing about these wellness practitioners, as I said, is that nobody knows who they were.

00:31:43.100 they were anonymous so they went by pseudonyms like sparrow or pigeon or pig or cow they would

00:31:49.240 call themselves a animal and then they would put their pronouns so it could be like you're talking

00:31:53.740 to sparrow with they them pronouns about your mental health issues as a child

00:31:59.820 and this so so walking back here a little bit who exactly is the person pushing this and and

00:32:07.800 sounds like this person is pretty liberal so you'd think they'd be a democrat right

00:32:11.460 Yeah. And this is, again, a huge problem. This is a state senator named Lisa Baker, who is a Republican. Now, Lisa Baker has spoken about no men and women's sports, but she's supporting an application like this, which is allowing predators to speak to children and, you know, pushing transgender ideology.

00:32:32.200 And why is she doing this? 0.55

00:32:34.240 Well, she got a trip, an all-expense-paid trip to Arizona during the week of the Super Bowl

00:32:40.200 when the Eagles were playing in the Super Bowl.

00:32:42.060 So could it be a little bit of bribery?

00:32:44.120 Maybe. 0.98

00:32:44.800 Maybe that impacted her decision-making.

00:32:47.400 Another point to bring up about Lisa Baker is that her son was a lobbyist for the DT firm,

00:32:53.260 which lobbied on behalf of Couth USA.

00:32:56.160 So we're seeing this a lot where Republican, or we can call them Republicans,

00:33:00.820 but really what they are is Republicans in name only. They're rhinos. They get paid. 0.89

00:33:06.040 Their families get paid. They benefit from higher taxes. They benefit from different policies that,

00:33:12.200 you know, a Democrat would support. And they go and they support it. And they just call

00:33:15.840 themselves Republicans. And they're not. So this idea, right. And then so is she pushing for this

00:33:22.320 to be in every Pennsylvania school? She was. Yes. She was pushing for it to be in every

00:33:27.220 Pennsylvania school. There's also another Republican state senator who went on that 0.83

00:33:31.120 fully funded trip to Arizona, Chris Skibhart. He was also pushing for it to be in different

00:33:37.040 Pennsylvania school districts. So they were really trying to expand it to every school district. Now,

00:33:42.140 it got canceled in Pennsylvania. But what happened after it was piloted in Pennsylvania

00:33:46.120 is that it got picked up in other states like California and New Jersey. So what they did,

00:33:53.120 what these Republican state senators did was they gave this woke application a way to get in the

00:34:00.640 United States. And now it's spreading throughout the country and it's going to do a lot of harm

00:34:04.680 to our children. And by the way, I see that Kuth USA did actually receive a grant for $3 million

00:34:13.780 from the Pennsylvania Department of Human Services for a pilot program. That's interesting.

00:34:20.760 So that was back in 2022. So that would have been that would have been under Governor Wolf. Am I correct?

00:34:30.020 I think so. Yes. Yes. Before Shapiro got in. But was she involved with continuing to continuing to try to push for this program back then?

00:34:40.580 Yeah, Lisa Baker still has not condemned the program. We wanted to ask if she would support similar applications in school districts in PA and elsewhere. And she won't answer our question. She has not withdrawn her support for Couth USA. And again, she is a Republican state senator who won't withdraw her support for an application that pushed gender ideology on our kids.

00:35:03.420 Yeah, this is crazy. I'm reading some more about the report. So it was actually canceled in 2024. And that the pencil that the department actually canceled it because there were there were lawmakers from all over the state who were saying that this thing is crazy.

00:35:21.420 crazy, no parental notification, no parental consent in many implementations. That means if

00:35:27.520 you're in a Pennsylvania school, this thing, I'm just reading through it again, this thing,

00:35:31.600 your kid has access to it, but you don't even have access to what your kid is doing in it.

00:35:36.500 You can't then request these chat logs or these conversations. So there's this anonymity because

00:35:42.800 they're not telling you what's in there. They're totally bypassing the parents and it's super

00:35:47.860 overcharging what a school district could do. Sure. If there's a counselor, that's someone that 0.66

00:35:51.840 that's at least a counselor, the parents know the parent, the counselor that the parents could go to

00:35:56.260 and say, Hey, you know, what's going on with, you know, my kid, you know, my kid, Jack, Jack and AJ

00:36:02.160 are my boys. Right. I'd, I'd want to know if something is going on with my boys. I could

00:36:06.300 talk to them. This there's no parental notification at all. And the fact is it's a for profit company

00:36:12.840 giving a grant award without any debate was even held in Pennsylvania over this.

00:36:19.500 So it just goes to show you that I don't, I got to tell you, man, I don't like that idea to begin

00:36:23.080 with. The idea that my kids are going to be online chatting with people that I can't talk to on a

00:36:27.960 right now. I don't like that. Even beyond the woke stuff, I'm not, I just don't like that at all.

00:36:32.260 So another point is that that $3 million grant, since it was done through a grant from the

00:36:37.480 Department of Health and Human Services, it did not need to go through votes in the school boards.

00:36:42.100 So I would say, in my opinion, that was done specifically for the purpose to evade parental notification, to stop people from being able to vote on if they wanted the platform into a school district and to roll it out even faster than it would have been.

00:36:56.660 So that, I think, was done on purpose because through the grant structure, now you don't need the votes of the different school districts who, when they found out about the application, had a big problem with it.

00:37:07.520 And we talked about it being in other states now.

00:37:10.920 What did they do?

00:37:11.680 they've rebranded it to Saluna. So it's no longer Kuth USA. It's Saluna in places like California.

00:37:17.800 In California, it's in almost every school district. And they rebranded it because of

00:37:21.880 the outrage of Pennsylvania families. Completely insane. Completely nuts. I can't believe this is

00:37:32.940 going on. Frank, can you hold on for just one more segment? Because I want to dig some more

00:37:38.380 into this and find out more. Let's, let's chat about it. Stay tuned for more Human Events Daily.

00:37:53.880 We're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently,

00:37:57.740 I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack

00:38:02.020 Posobiec. And that is, I'll be honest.

00:38:08.380 all right folks we're back live here human events daily real america's voice and when

00:38:16.400 again we're still with frankie scales talking about lisa baker this program it's it's so

00:38:22.460 disturbing to me and i'm i thank god that pennsylvania has taken out this couth usa where

00:38:28.760 it's online counseling for children in schools in pennsylvania and they have this in in other

00:38:36.440 states as well now where the kids go in and they're doing this you know counseling or ask

00:38:43.020 being asked about very serious mental health uh gender questions sexual questions all these

00:38:49.800 different things when this is something that quite frankly it shouldn't be brought up in the schools

00:38:55.400 it shouldn't be something the schools are supported and if there is something where it happens

00:38:59.980 it should be something where they go to a counselor who's someone that they know

00:39:04.680 Some of the school knows. And of course, someone who the parents can talk to with this thing.

00:39:10.960 It's completely nuts. And the fact that they're throwing money around and you got state senators like this, it just it really smacks of the type of corruption that unfortunately we've seen all too many times in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

00:39:23.380 Frankie, you, of course, are no stranger to confronting our public officials, especially in PA and holding their feet to the fire.

00:39:30.920 You ever had the opportunity to ask Senator Baker about this?

00:39:34.680 So we were outside of one of Senator Lisa Baker's events with the intention to ask her why she

00:39:39.800 supported Couth USA. We were waiting outside so long that we actually had to turn our camera off.

00:39:45.540 When we did, she got, she left and she sprinted to her car, hopped into the passenger seat and 1.00

00:39:53.460 someone skirted off. So she's really trying to avoid me at all costs. She does not want to do

00:39:59.920 an interview. I went to her office to ask some questions and get comment from her office.

00:40:04.680 And somebody in the office wrote on a piece of paper a phone number to call. I called that phone number, and they then told me that the door wasn't open, that they actually couldn't open the door to let me in her office. So they are trying to avoid me. I've never seen anything like it. It is easier to talk to leftists, that protesters, than these fake Republican senators.

00:40:25.960 And why is that? Do you think that they're just not used to have anyone ever kind of paying them that level of attention, that level of scrutiny, putting them in the spotlight? Are they just used to kind of flying under the radar?

00:40:40.240 I think it's all of them things. I think they're not used to the level of scrutiny. And I think that they don't have an answer. They know what they were doing was wrong. They know that they were benefiting from it. And they know that their base, that the people who vote for them are entirely opposed to Kuth USA, and they would be appalled. So they have literally no defense. All they could do is walk back support.

00:41:04.960 But even at that point, well, did you do your due diligence and was your son being a lobbyist

00:41:10.400 work with USA?

00:41:11.280 Did that impact your decision making?

00:41:12.880 They can't answer that.

00:41:14.220 So their best bet and what they're trying to do is avoid any interaction with me.

00:41:18.620 They are trying to avoid interaction with me to the point where they don't even want

00:41:21.940 to be on camera walking away from me.

00:41:24.560 So it's been pretty challenging to find them.

00:41:26.880 Yesterday, I was at another state senator's office, Chris Gibbard.

00:41:30.720 He wasn't there.

00:41:31.340 I then went to one of his events, donor events, and the security there basically threatened to

00:41:38.040 trespass me from the building, the Harrisburg Hilton. He wouldn't come out. He basically

00:41:43.200 alerted security that Frank Scales is going to be coming. I don't want to talk to him and he's

00:41:48.560 not invited. Kick him out if he comes. And he gave them a description of me to stop me from 0.99

00:41:54.540 entering the building he gives a description of you i mean it's just it's it's so ridiculous

00:42:01.800 and plus and i wanted to ask you you know switch gears here just last couple minutes

00:42:05.600 is that um you had this you were up in new york for the mayday again dealing with hanging out

00:42:11.860 with the communists hanging out with the bolsheviks up there and you got a video and

00:42:15.820 unfortunately we don't have the video on us but people can i'm sure it can go to find it on your

00:42:22.080 Facebook and others where someone not only kind of got in your face, but also brought up Charlie

00:42:27.740 Kirk. Yeah. So somebody said, are you scared of dying like Charlie Kirk? Because what you're

00:42:34.060 doing is what Charlie Kirk was doing, basically putting the responsibility on Charlie Kirk that

00:42:39.360 he shouldn't have been having debates. So they were telling me, since you're having these

00:42:43.560 discussions with people, do you fear that you're going to get shot or killed? And, you know,

00:42:49.120 My response was, it is a real concern because we see so much political violence on the left, but it is not going to stop me because my forefathers, the forefathers of this country and the people who came before me, they sacrificed everything, their life, liberty, and their sacred honor for this country and this country's posterity.

00:43:11.280 and i think we have a responsibility to do the same thing so serge philly i will never stop being

00:43:17.520 out there at the protests and asking them simply why are they protesting why do you disagree with

00:43:23.200 the trump administration what is fascism these are really important questions that they can't answer

00:43:28.240 and they're resorting to political violence now yeah and you see this over and over and and

00:43:33.920 unfortunately you know the political violence is on the rise and what's what's interesting to me

00:43:39.520 is that when you talk to the left about what happened to Charlie, they seem to be in complete

00:43:47.720 lockstep about it, that yes, he was killed for his political beliefs by people who have our

00:43:55.220 political beliefs. So it's, it's very interesting to me because you'll see the media will try to

00:43:59.600 obfuscate this. And, you know, I remember people saying, Oh, or Barack Obama with this latest

00:44:04.360 White House correspondence shooter saying, you know, we were not really sure what is, what his

00:44:08.120 motive would have been, even though he had a manifesto, he's very clear, his Twitter account

00:44:12.420 was there, his Blue Sky account was right there. It's very clear what his motive was, that he hated

00:44:16.660 Trump and he hated conservatives. But when you talk to the actual communists themselves,

00:44:21.900 they tell you right away, don't they? Yeah, they do, right away. And one of the things that you'll

00:44:26.760 see with many of the communists is that they do support political violence. It's not going to be

00:44:31.340 them. I don't want to hurt anybody. I don't like violence. But when somebody does commit violence

00:44:37.460 against my political enemies, I support that. And that's, that's kind of their belief. And it's

00:44:42.360 very cowardly. That is the overwhelming theme I see with these people is that they're cowards. 1.00

00:44:48.840 Well, and that's right. And what they're, they're hoping for, and this is why they use the black 1.00

00:44:52.200 blocks many cases. And we were on here yesterday to talk about that, how they'll hope that one 0.97

00:44:57.660 person will sort of be able to cross the line. And then everybody dresses up in black block like

00:45:02.840 that so that they can help aid, you know, before and after the, the event itself, that the person

00:45:07.960 can then come back inside. So we had a colleague, Katie Davis court, who was assaulted with a rock

00:45:12.400 at this Antifa thing in Portland. And the issue that they were having so far, FBI is involved,

00:45:18.400 but the issue that they were having so far was that it was hard to identify the person because

00:45:23.000 that's exactly what they did. They were dressed in black. Then they ran back into the crowd.

00:45:27.300 That's full of black, full, you know, black block. It's a blurry video is the only one that 0.66

00:45:31.660 we have to identify the person so again this is their tactic and it has been their tactic that

00:45:37.820 they will go out and they will commit these things but then knowing that only one or two of them

00:45:42.760 three or four depending on the situation are going to commit the actual violence the point is

00:45:47.880 the whole group infrastructure is there in place on purpose so that violence can occur so and and

00:45:55.260 to you to what you just said it isn't that they don't support it they just don't want to commit

00:45:58.860 themselves. Yeah. Yeah. And they actually train to intimidate people. They train to push away

00:46:05.260 journalists and media that they're not favorable to. And they train in a way to where they can do

00:46:09.660 it. They can lock arms and they can stop people from having their freedom of movement. And they

00:46:14.680 have done it to me many times, but they do it in a way to where they avoid and evade police detection

00:46:22.000 and they go right to the edge to where the police can't really do anything to them,

00:46:26.800 But they are managing to violate my rights and other journalists' rights.

00:46:32.220 And that is like a lesser example of the same thing.

00:46:34.760 But these people train to, you know, have violent demonstrations.

00:46:39.180 They train to take away people's rights in ways to where they don't get caught.

00:46:43.500 And that brings up a very important question, which is—

00:46:46.800 Or as you can say, what they want to do is they want to walk right—what you're saying,

00:46:49.920 they want to walk right up to that line without crossing it while trying to provoke you

00:46:54.420 so that you'll cross the line and then they get to pretend that they're the victims exactly yeah

00:46:59.420 that's part of it and this all leads to a bigger question is at what point are these demonstrations

00:47:04.460 unlawful and i think that's an important question we have to start asking more

00:47:08.380 well it's it's clearly unlawful when there's there's a conspiracy to commit the violence

00:47:13.940 beforehand that's what makes it unlawful so you don't have to wait until they get out there you

00:47:18.760 can start doing this while it's in the conspiracy phase but we are all out of time today for that

00:47:24.000 Frankie Scales, where can people follow you, brother?

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00:47:34.860 Thank you so much.

00:47:35.520 God bless.

00:47:36.020 Take care.

00:47:36.900 Ladies and gentlemen, as always,

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