Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Poso Family Christmas

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:37.000 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.000 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.000 Christ is king!

00:00:52.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.

00:00:54.000 Jack Jack.

00:00:55.000 Aboard!

00:00:56.000 It's aboard, Jack Jack.

00:00:58.000 Jack, try it again.

00:00:59.540 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.

00:01:01.460 Bored.

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00:01:07.160 Remember, Jack-Jack, you have to talk into the mic every time or people won't hear you.

00:01:11.080 I know.

00:01:12.200 You know.

00:01:12.800 Okay.

00:01:13.120 You can move it a little bit to make it closer to your mouth.

00:01:15.960 Like right there.

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00:01:20.600 Now lean forward and talk into the mic a little bit.

00:01:23.640 All the way in, Jack-Jack.

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00:01:27.240 so jack jack it is time what year is it 2025 talking to the mic 2025 we are here doing

00:01:35.280 another poso christmas it's the fourth christmas special right fourth christmas special that we've

00:01:40.680 done 21 22 23 no wait i screwed that up 22 23 24 25 might actually be the fifth one we'll have

00:01:49.060 to double check and jack jack we are here at turning point usa aren't we yes this is where

00:01:57.700 this is the very same building where we did the very first posto christmas special isn't it yeah

00:02:03.720 mike yay so and last year do you remember which studio we were in when we did the special charlie

00:02:13.360 kirks charlie kirks and we're right right across the street from that right now and

00:02:20.020 charlie he's not here this year is he yeah yeah and how did you feel when you heard about what

00:02:34.000 happened to Mr. Charlie? Sad. Me too. And for Mr. Charlie's family? Yes. Felt also

00:02:44.560 sad? Yes. So what do you think a good thing that we could do to try to remember Mr. Charlie

00:02:55.600 would be? If we talk about him. If we talk about him? Yeah. So what do you remember about

00:03:07.300 Mr. Charlie? He was 31 years old. Yeah, he's 31. Mike? 31. He was 31. And do you remember

00:03:17.060 anything that he used to do? The Charlie Kirk show. That's right, the Charlie Kirk show,

00:03:22.440 of course what about what kind of places did he go uh did he go to colleges yes and he was

00:03:34.040 always talking to students and kids yes yes yes and who was charlie's favorite president

00:03:40.340 donald j trump that's right and was he a big trump supporter yes and

00:03:47.540 on Sundays, where did Charlie go

00:03:50.740 with his family? To church.

00:03:52.680 To church, exactly. Because Charlie loves

00:03:54.780 Church.

00:03:56.640 Church and a church we go to

00:03:58.660 worship? Jesus. Jesus,

00:04:00.700 exactly. And God.

00:04:02.560 Yes, and Jesus is God.

00:04:04.520 So, that's why we

00:04:06.640 say Charlie's right now in God's army, right?

00:04:09.660 Right.

00:04:10.580 And where is he?

00:04:12.260 In heaven. He's in heaven, that's right.

00:04:15.420 And do you think he's

00:04:16.880 He's watching down and keeping an eye on his family?

00:04:19.920 Of course he is.

00:04:20.920 Of course he is.

00:04:21.720 And making sure they're okay?

00:04:23.460 Yes.

00:04:24.040 Yes.

00:04:25.020 And are you going to try to be good friends with his kids?

00:04:30.600 Yes.

00:04:31.400 Because they're going to need friends in this world, right?

00:04:33.660 Probably.

00:04:34.740 Definitely.

00:04:35.920 Probably.

00:04:37.060 Definitely.

00:04:38.080 Probably.

00:04:39.220 Jack-Jack, they will definitely need friends.

00:04:41.080 And I think that's something really sweet of you to do for them.

00:04:44.080 So thank you.

00:04:45.200 No, definitely.

00:04:47.200 Probably.

00:04:48.400 Definitely.

00:04:49.340 Oh, yeah.

00:04:50.880 You tricked me, Bugs Bunny.

00:04:52.640 What's up, Doc?

00:04:56.380 What?

00:04:58.800 So, and did I hear that you and AJ made some Christmas cards for Charlie and Erica's kids?

00:05:10.320 How did you know?

00:05:12.620 Because I gave them to them.

00:05:14.120 excuse me yeah mama had me get them uh from the room and i walked over and we gave them to erica

00:05:23.320 i gave them i brought them over and gave them to you and then you gave them to mrs erica mommy

00:05:32.360 gave it to me oh my gosh okay so i gave it to mommy mommy gave it to you and you gave it to mrs

00:05:41.160 kirk mrs erica kirk that's right and were you very happy to do that yes well thank you very

00:05:49.200 much jack jack i'm glad that you did that i think that's very nice of you because is christmas about

00:05:54.460 getting things no what's it about celebrating jesus celebrating jesus celebrating jesus and

00:06:02.540 how do we celebrate Jesus? By going to church. We go to church and so on Christmas should the only

00:06:11.260 thing I really care about be getting presents and getting what I want and all that? No. What

00:06:18.140 should it be about? It's not about getting it's about giving. Why is that? Because when you get

00:06:26.840 uh you can make somebody else happy yes you can make someone else happy and isn't that what jesus

00:06:35.180 wanted because when but when you give can you make someone else happy yeah yeah and isn't that good

00:06:40.940 yes i think it is you having fun doing this interview jack jack yes i didn't realize we

00:06:48.000 interviewing my son but here we are well maybe maybe we could add somebody else to the interview

00:06:53.720 who should we bring next who do you think i let me think you've got some other family members 0.57

00:06:58.440 around maybe my your brother my brother you think we should bring uncle kevin on here stinky old 0.82

00:07:07.560 uncle kevin yes all right say come here stinky old uncle kevin come here stinky old uncle kevin 0.94

00:07:13.560 all right we're bringing stinky old uncle kevin what here he's here he's here on the poso christmas 0.98

00:07:19.000 special once again here jack jack why don't you sit here and uncle kevin will sit right there 0.89

00:07:24.600 here he is

00:07:27.560 gotta get my own hat no no hat for you talking to mike no hat no hat okay no all hat no cattle

00:07:35.560 so i do have my gulf of america hat back at the hotel nice well we're not at the hotel are we

00:07:40.600 that's true it doesn't really do any good does it so when we're here tp usa

00:07:47.160 we're filming this on the sidelines of am fest and you know we're here in this building where

00:07:56.140 charlie started his show where charlie started turning point where charlie where charlie i wouldn't

00:08:01.280 not started but you know where turning point really took off was right here in this building

00:08:05.500 in phoenix arizona and of course this was the first am fest without charlie and this is going

00:08:11.140 to be the first um christmas first christmas without charlie and so uncle kevin kev yeah what

00:08:20.380 what i wanted to if you could just you know you got to meet charlie you got to work with charlie

00:08:26.600 a couple of times what's uh what's the story you remember about charlie oh well there's there's

00:08:32.500 several several stories i remember about charlie and uh i spoke to a few of them during the the

00:08:39.080 vigils that we held uh directly after um mid-september there um but yeah just to preface

00:08:46.440 it you know i was walking in just now in the hq and i saw the that one picture of the original

00:08:51.000 like turning point studio there in uh chicago it's just this little little building and it

00:08:56.900 reminded me like you and me man like just uh started out working class guys in the

00:09:01.860 an italian bakery you know we'd be working overnights right right about now any uh other

00:09:07.360 time so i've just been kind of reflecting on gratitude really just and and all the

00:09:13.440 the blessings that we've had and and all your success clearly um it's opened a lot of doors

00:09:18.640 for me and uh you know charlie was you and charlie had just become good friends and i could tell

00:09:25.600 knowing you that uh there was great chemistry so that blossomed uh over the years and

00:09:34.800 And, yeah, Charlie, and it's just bittersweet, Jack.

00:09:39.720 It's just bittersweet.

00:09:41.280 It's been the best AmFest ever, really, without Charlie.

00:09:47.140 But one of the stories in particular,

00:09:50.820 so we were just getting the shot set up here,

00:09:54.720 and we got in and outs.

00:09:55.640 And I think the last time I was in this building was with you and Charlie

00:10:01.140 and a few other guys after AmFest and we're just doing oh yeah yeah that's

00:10:09.200 right I remember that just doing some reason we're like right over there and

00:10:12.300 yeah we're just kind of debriefing and chatting about how the event went and

00:10:18.180 but so that was if I remember correctly that was going into 2024 so that was

00:10:23.680 2023 right I think you're right yeah it was 23 going it was 24 sitting right

00:10:28.980 over here yeah and interviewed that's right right over there i forgot we got it but here's the

00:10:34.580 kicker though is that we're all just kind of hanging out chatting about plans for 2024 yeah

00:10:39.800 yeah and charlie never like he's you know much more close with you but i think you ever just

00:10:48.800 meet somebody you need you're like kind of on the same frequency as them but that's another thing

00:10:53.200 but charlie asked me directly he's like hey kev like good to see you brought me right in you know

00:10:58.640 and he's like what do you want from in and out yeah and now we got in and out here too

00:11:02.340 so it's just like kind of surreal to be in the same building eating the same food but it's like

00:11:07.380 wow well it's it's kind of classic no charlie charlie loved his in and out jack jack do you

00:11:10.900 like in and out yes no very good thank you for your contribution and uh yeah well i don't know

00:11:17.800 that's pretty much the gist of it you know charlie's always been uh just very gracious

00:11:22.720 with me and and what i've been telling everybody else is he's a man of integrity and character like

00:11:28.080 Like, Charlie, aside from if we're literally eating,

00:11:32.360 like, he was always on the mission.

00:11:34.240 Breaking bread.

00:11:35.240 Breaking bread.

00:11:36.460 Well, breaking bread, but he inspired me by being like,

00:11:41.460 all right, like, basically, like, this is cool, we're hanging out,

00:11:43.800 but, like, what are we recording next?

00:11:45.600 Or what are we going to talk about, you know?

00:11:47.080 When I would see him in West Palm Beach at the studio there with Rav.

00:11:52.520 When you were down there, you were down there a little bit as well

00:11:55.340 at Mar-a-Lago during the transition period.

00:11:58.080 charlie was running around all that all that time that's true that's true yeah yeah i was bump bumping

00:12:03.360 into elon somehow elon was there elon charlie everyone yeah that's true i remember witnessing

00:12:09.360 that uh with you and them and we were just talking about doge right so yeah that's right so being

00:12:15.680 there at mar-a-lago on on the terrace where doge was creepy didn't even have a name for it really

00:12:22.480 well i mean elon made the name for it as a joke really and you know like a half joke and then we

00:12:27.840 he said no you know what let's actually turn this to a real thing and and uh and charlie was a huge

00:12:33.020 part of that charlie said let's do it let's go all in and that's that's just the one observation

00:12:37.140 that and and one of the reasons i i i love charlie and respect him is because like even then like

00:12:43.680 you guys didn't say like hey like you know you got to get out of here like it was it was just

00:12:49.200 amazing uh you know i feel like i i sometimes have some some good ideas and some insights but

00:12:54.640 And to be on that level with, you know, the president himself and Elon Musk and Charlie and everyone else around and you, it just means a lot.

00:13:06.480 You know, it means a lot.

00:13:07.220 And then on top of everything originally, like what I tell people that has a turning point, it didn't exist when you and I were in college.

00:13:14.920 So that's why I love being able to come back here and give back

00:13:18.000 and encourage young college students and, you know,

00:13:21.040 kind of spread an olive branch to anybody else that is, you know,

00:13:25.600 just a lot of infighting lately.

00:13:27.060 And I feel like Charlie would kind of be that guy too,

00:13:29.880 just to at least hear people out, especially at AmFest.

00:13:33.480 So I try and give that back in his spirit and his stride.

00:13:39.200 But definitely, you know, keep it on.

00:13:40.760 It's all about, you know, college kids, the future.

00:13:43.140 and giving them a different way to go

00:13:48.100 instead of these indoctrination camps

00:13:50.200 when it started, right?

00:13:52.280 I think that's exactly right.

00:13:53.200 And since it is Christmas,

00:13:57.000 I suppose, Uncle Kev,

00:13:59.040 can you remember any Norristown Christmas stories

00:14:03.180 that maybe we could tell Jack-Jack while we're here?

00:14:05.100 Oh, boy.

00:14:08.360 Norristown Christmas stories?

00:14:10.020 Yeah.

00:14:10.900 There was always some snowball ones.

00:14:13.140 You know, snowball fights and, you know, building the forts on the corners, building forts, Jack, Jack.

00:14:18.580 We used to always make snowball forts or snow forts on the quarter.

00:14:21.500 And then when cars would come by, we'd throw.

00:14:24.300 Well, Kevin would throw snowballs at them.

00:14:27.340 I never did that, though.

00:14:28.900 Never, ever.

00:14:30.260 Right.

00:14:30.700 Right.

00:14:31.040 But then when the car, when the guy.

00:14:32.440 But then do you remember the time that that guy stopped the car and got out?

00:14:36.200 He was like, what are you kids doing?

00:14:38.520 Yes.

00:14:39.040 Yes.

00:14:39.400 yeah we used to go sledding up at the hill at the uh at the medical center there yeah the medical

00:14:44.700 center well then and then valley forge too and of course we were we were just going over valley

00:14:50.780 forge the other day but um i don't know i mean honestly honestly jack i mean some of the not i

00:14:57.080 don't have the best narstown stories uh you know i remember a lot of the bad things you know what

00:15:03.040 and eventually like why we moved and whatnot but um i do remember like just nostalgic christmas

00:15:11.360 time like old school like christmas tree just like this you know and the the the divider with

00:15:17.440 the stained glass doors on on that our childhood home well the thing the problem was and i've told

00:15:23.680 jack jack about this the reason that we lost our town was because of crime it was because of section

00:15:30.560 eight it was because of illegal aliens coming in and i tell jack jack there's bad guys just bad

00:15:36.440 guys took over the town and we had to leave because it got so bad yeah uh exactly yeah and

00:15:42.760 that's mom and dad got us out yeah long story short i mean we grew up with in the back alley

00:15:49.060 we had a milk crate you know nailed to a telephone pole to play basketball in and then there would

00:15:54.660 be dog fights in the back alley and then in the front in the front of the street we would see

00:15:59.860 people just fighting uh on the front lawns and stuff i remember specifically one day uh me and

00:16:05.920 dad just like peering through the the shades out front because there was a loud argument and people

00:16:12.220 were fighting and shouldn't have to live that way no no you shouldn't have to live that way and

00:16:18.420 that's you know that's one of the reasons that mom and dad got us out because jack jack you see

00:16:22.640 the bad guys totally took over our town so we had to leave about what what kind of story do you

00:16:29.800 here jack jack and any story what do you mean any story in norristown um well in doristown i used to

00:16:39.720 where we lived 1418 powell street was the um maybe the monster icicles that you used to get

00:16:49.480 well those are just icicles you need icicles anywhere um we used to live about three blocks

00:16:54.920 away from the library so when we were little we could go and walk we could just walk out of our

00:17:02.900 house turn and walk past the hospital and then walk two more blocks and then boom the library

00:17:09.780 was right there so we could walk to the library get books whenever we wanted and i used to have

00:17:14.640 a wagon and i would take the wagon with me and take it all the way down to the library

00:17:19.120 and did it up with books

00:17:20.720 and then come home and read them all.

00:17:23.900 It's true.

00:17:24.720 Because I love the books so much.

00:17:26.060 And you used to be able to do it, you know,

00:17:29.720 without having to worry about

00:17:31.620 if you're walking with somebody or, you know.

00:17:34.800 Oh, yeah.

00:17:35.600 Unsupervised.

00:17:36.060 Well, mom would let me go.

00:17:37.220 It's more high-trust society.

00:17:39.200 Totally high-trust.

00:17:40.480 Slowly declined.

00:17:42.020 And Jack-Jack, we had,

00:17:43.320 and then at the other corner,

00:17:45.020 we had Fardman's Pharmacy.

00:17:47.080 Yeah.

00:17:47.300 And we had Jackson's, which is a convenience store.

00:17:50.320 So at Farben's Pharmacy, you could buy medicine, you could buy cards, and you could also buy comic books.

00:18:00.200 And I love buying comic books there.

00:18:02.120 Then there's Laundromat, and then next to Jackson's store, and then in Jackson's store, guess what they had?

00:18:07.560 Video games.

00:18:09.700 And you could play video games and pinball.

00:18:11.920 And I remember the day they got Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat 2.

00:18:15.260 I got another one

00:18:17.360 The tin can phones

00:18:19.180 Remember we used to do that with the neighbors

00:18:20.760 Did you ever do that Jack Jack

00:18:22.960 You take two empty soup cans with a string between them

00:18:26.040 We gotta show them

00:18:27.020 It's a matter of science

00:18:28.820 We had the red caves across from us

00:18:30.420 And we would do

00:18:31.640 We would do tin can phones

00:18:34.700 And you can make a phone

00:18:37.400 Out of two tin cans

00:18:38.640 And a string

00:18:39.860 Does the bible say love your neighbor Jack Jack

00:18:43.160 Yes

00:18:44.240 it does and we could eventually return to creating neighborhoods where we can become friends and love

00:18:51.580 our actual neighbors a snowball fight um we would just have uh you know there were so many kids

00:19:02.480 around that we could get into a snowball fight with the kids on my block versus the kids from

00:19:08.040 the other block and sometimes we would wait until they weren't ready until they weren't looking

00:19:13.560 and then we'd sneak up behind them

00:19:16.240 and throw all the snowballs at them

00:19:18.080 and then we'd run away

00:19:20.420 before they could find us.

00:19:22.560 So they wouldn't know who attacked them.

00:19:24.360 So we'd have these little snowball fight wars 1.00

00:19:26.340 with all the kids in the neighborhood.

00:19:28.660 It was a lot of fun.

00:19:30.980 Well, Uncle Kevin, I think

00:19:32.340 I'm looking over here.

00:19:34.620 Is it time to bring

00:19:36.420 our next special guests on?

00:19:39.180 Is it time?

00:19:41.440 It looks like

00:19:42.280 it might be. So Uncle Kev,

00:19:43.400 if you don't mind. Hey, Merry Christmas, y'all. Peace on earth. Sneaking out. Christ the Savior

00:19:47.240 is born. We've got some more special guests

00:19:51.320 that we want to join because it is, of course,

00:19:54.740 the lovely Tanya Tay and, of course,

00:19:59.720 Mr. AJ. Jack-Jack, help your mama with her microphone.

00:20:04.820 Remember, mama, you've got to talk right into it.

00:20:07.580 Hello, everybody. Hope you don't mind me bringing a little Santa's helper

00:20:11.500 here hi aj you want to say hi aj so aj had a little stomach bug a little he got caught the

00:20:20.960 infest infest flu a little bit so aj might not be quite as talkative on this christmas special

00:20:27.340 jack jack what do you want to say about that you were a little sick too right

00:20:30.840 a little yeah i know but aj's been really good and he's came and he came out and said a prayer

00:20:37.920 with us didn't he he absolutely did and aj you know what i think he's a really great job when

00:20:43.800 he came out on stage at am fest so thank you for that i'm proud of you and not only that you said

00:20:52.300 all the words of all your prayers and you remembered every single one perfectly and aj i

00:20:58.460 even have a video that nana and pop-up sent me of you singing the ave maria did you know that

00:21:05.680 well not we won't put him on the spot but i have the video so we can add it in post

00:21:15.680 oh no maybe we'll put it on later but aj were you scared when you were out there with all those

00:21:24.620 people no why not it was not scary no no no no it's okay they don't beat up the microphones

00:21:35.320 I've heard that the Poso boys are the bravest boys in the world.

00:21:39.240 Are you two the bravest boys in the world?

00:21:43.280 Yes, sir.

00:21:43.960 Yes, it is.

00:21:45.080 Here, Jack.

00:21:45.700 Here, you can sit on my lap.

00:21:47.120 It'll be closer to the microphone.

00:21:49.440 So, yeah, but AJ, here's something that they don't know about us, about me and you,

00:21:56.300 is they don't know that me and you are on a team, aren't we?

00:22:00.540 Yes.

00:22:01.100 Yes, we are.

00:22:02.500 Should we tell everyone what our team is?

00:22:04.500 No.

00:22:05.400 Okay.

00:22:06.000 It was a special secret team.

00:22:08.200 Oh, I think AJ's about done.

00:22:11.320 We got a little out of him.

00:22:12.560 We got a little out of him.

00:22:13.240 We lost him.

00:22:14.100 Team Fast, by the way.

00:22:14.920 Team Fast.

00:22:15.660 And Jack, Jack, and Mama are on Team Slow.

00:22:18.140 We're on a Team Smart.

00:22:19.440 No, no, you're not.

00:22:20.600 Totally Team Smart.

00:22:21.240 We're also on Team Tricky.

00:22:22.380 You don't even know about that.

00:22:23.620 What?

00:22:24.160 I've never heard about that team.

00:22:25.660 Me and Stinky Old Uncle Kevin are on Team Rocky Jumpers.

00:22:31.080 The Rocky Jumpers?

00:22:32.400 What are that?

00:22:33.160 True.

00:22:33.480 true what are you talking about uncle kevin so so dear let me ask you this you know you're out here

00:22:42.900 with um with me with jack jack with aj and but at the same time you you got to spend some time

00:22:52.160 with erica backstage a little bit of time and you've been with her in this time you know since

00:22:57.540 everything happened with Charlie and obviously with with her talk to me a little bit about

00:23:05.320 just your thoughts and feelings on this Christmas being and and we were talking

00:23:12.240 about it before the first Christmas without Charlie

00:23:14.160 whatever somebody asks me about

00:23:21.360 how how it feels to not have charlie around i i answer that i'm still in the denial phase

00:23:33.220 that it still feels surreal that he's not here with us at the biggest event of the year

00:23:39.700 and um keep waiting for him to just like come around the corner it feels like there just give

00:23:47.120 it a minute and we'll see charlie walking on stage with all the sparkles the biggest sparkles

00:23:52.800 light up the stage and he'll be there saying hey everybody and just go on with his speech and

00:23:59.340 just keep waiting for that moment and i couldn't even imagine what erica has to go through

00:24:06.560 So walking the stage, going with the teen through all the little details, talking to everybody, having her kids at home, decorating the Christmas tree, and not having her friend, her dear husband, the father of her children not around.

00:24:31.180 She has shown so much strength dealing with it.

00:24:34.720 I don't know if I ever could be half as strong had something ever so terrible happened.

00:24:45.700 And I truly admire that, that she managed to be an example to all of us,

00:24:52.660 showing that we have to put ourselves together

00:25:00.960 and get put on the armor, the armor of God,

00:25:09.400 and get through that phase.

00:25:13.380 Amen. Amen to that.

00:25:15.800 And if you could say anything,

00:25:20.000 and I know you talked to Erica,

00:25:21.860 but if you could say anything to her on this christmas what would that be hey hey hey

00:25:39.140 i hope that she knows how much love there is for her and i hope that she feels all the prayers

00:25:48.340 for her and her family and I hope that she keeps doing exactly what she's doing

00:26:00.820 right now but even with more determination with more confidence

00:26:06.220 knowing that there is the army of Turning Point USA students high

00:26:13.360 schoolers ambassadors contributors sponsors who a hundred percent behind her

00:26:19.980 who are so willing to continue what Charlie started amen and and I know she

00:26:31.440 appreciates you being a good friend to her and and that's the least I could do

00:26:35.460 and everything we could do so sweetheart you know I gotta put you on the spot oh

00:26:39.800 oh no since it is christmas time and we're trying to remember charlotte at the same time

00:26:48.880 i've ever asked you this on air but what is a you know a charlie story or you know a charlie

00:26:55.520 moment that you remember you either either you know with me or on air off air anything that

00:27:02.540 you know one thing what's that what's something that really sticks with you

00:27:05.360 the one story that i keep going back to is when we first met him and it was in chicago it was

00:27:15.680 gosh feels like forever ago and i remember meeting him we got introduced and you were just kind of

00:27:23.620 getting in a political movement we had just gotten married and this was like i want to say a week or

00:27:29.200 two after we got married and but it's before we went on our honeymoon right and it was around

00:27:34.280 Thanksgiving and this was uh it's really snowy it was like super super snowy I don't remember all

00:27:42.220 those details but I remember it was incredibly snowy like we landed at O'Hare and then we got

00:27:46.980 oh yes yes yes okay it's coming back to me yeah we drove out and we stopped at that diner

00:27:51.840 and um and then we met uh Charlie there at this it was just like a local local thing

00:27:59.060 but i think he was there because he was going to visit his parents afterwards okay yeah that

00:28:05.120 makes sense and there was a room what do you think maybe 300 people i at least i think it was

00:28:11.860 i think it was before he even came to arizona i think he was still one turning point was still

00:28:17.660 out of illinois right so i remember we just got introduced to him we chatted briefly and then he

00:28:24.260 got on stage and uh he was trying to pitch this idea that um he has this vision about creating a

00:28:32.820 student organization and he's gonna get on campuses he'll try to talk to students and get them to to

00:28:45.480 become more conservative because he was saying that our colleges are becoming so liberal

00:28:51.880 and it was it i just keep going back thinking about that moment and at first when you met him

00:29:01.640 because i mean he was such a young kid i don't know if he was 20 at the time i mean you just

00:29:07.340 see this kid and you're like and then we heard him on stage and then i remember thinking to

00:29:12.420 myself like you know what you'd have been about 22 23 something like that yeah thinking to myself

00:29:18.920 you know he's up to something and looking back so when you say that and this is this is pre erica

00:29:26.520 charlie so i mean the you know it was the very early charlie early days and so but did you think

00:29:33.240 when you say you you you saw him and you thought about it did you think that he could do it or

00:29:39.720 were you thinking like ah it'll never happen he was speaking with such conviction yeah and

00:29:47.080 he had this charisma about him he he got me to believe in him at that moment i i really believed

00:29:54.760 what he was saying and um there was this spark in him and and his vision seemed to be so clear

00:30:06.440 and he was he was going on and on about him and i felt like every person in the room at that moment

00:30:13.720 believed that he could do it fast forward it 10 15 years later and here we are in

00:30:22.440 sitting in turning point usa and i just keep going back to that moment that when we first

00:30:27.480 met him and it just in chicago yes it was so special it was really special moment would you

00:30:34.920 Did you say Jack-Jack?

00:30:37.660 It couldn't have been 11 years.

00:30:41.400 He's fact-checking you in real time.

00:30:43.820 I wasn't going to say Jack-Jack.

00:30:45.240 She's just telling a story.

00:30:46.420 She's just telling a story.

00:30:47.340 It's okay.

00:30:48.280 The point is it was a long time ago.

00:30:50.200 Yes.

00:30:50.700 And it feels like a lifetime ago now.

00:30:53.820 It really does.

00:30:54.960 Well, here's what we're going to do.

00:30:56.080 I want to bring in one of the neighbors here, if that's okay, real quickly.

00:31:02.180 and uh i'll i'll i'll let jack jack and you take a take a quick break and check out check out aj i

00:31:10.280 know he wasn't feeling too well let's see if we can see if we can get him back to full health here

00:31:14.460 because i want to bring in i hear a knock on the door i hear i said i heard a knock on the door

00:31:20.020 oh yeah oh he said it's neighbor joshua there he is hey neighbor joshua is here oh my goodness

00:31:29.180 What are you doing here on a snowy Christmas day?

00:31:31.900 Merry Christmas.

00:31:32.700 Merry Christmas.

00:31:33.700 Someone's falling out of your pocket there.

00:31:35.480 Oh, is it?

00:31:35.920 Who is that?

00:31:36.240 Someone just took a nosedive onto the chair, I think.

00:31:39.860 Yeah, let's see.

00:31:40.940 Who's that?

00:31:41.800 This is Roscoe, Lego Roscoe.

00:31:45.460 He accompanies me on my various adventures and trips when I'm away from the children.

00:31:49.920 So we're just going to put Lego Roscoe right here.

00:31:52.300 He's rocking the Santa Claus hat.

00:31:53.860 every time i go on an adventure he gets into some sort of trouble and i take pictures of

00:31:59.080 his antics for the children totally not creepy totally not creepy it's something that every

00:32:04.440 parent understands so so here we are we're in the tposa headquarters we've just done am fest

00:32:13.100 it's christmas time talk to me about and and you got to meet charlie through uh when we did

00:32:20.320 unhumans and then later he did the blurb for um bulletproof and i just remember that when

00:32:28.160 i'll just say this when we first introduced you to charlie he was like ah who's this guy's

00:32:34.280 you know this this ghostwriter guy etc but man when you guys started going i could really see

00:32:40.720 that he was very just very locked mind with you because charlie could sense that intellect

00:32:49.680 and he could see that, oh, this is someone that I could have that intellectual riposte with.

00:32:55.920 And I could see that he really, really enjoyed interviewing you.

00:32:59.720 I could see that right away from Charlie in a way that, you know,

00:33:03.440 there'd be times where, let's just say at events where Charlie could be a little distracted,

00:33:09.260 pulled in different directions, it is what it is,

00:33:11.340 but I could really tell that with you specifically, he was locked in.

00:33:15.560 He was, yes. He and I both have had evangelical apologetics background where you studied the

00:33:21.620 various ways to defend the faith, let's say the Christian worldview. I had that background being

00:33:26.200 homeschooled. And he of course has that background from his own training. And what I appreciated

00:33:31.980 about him, unlike in a lot of interviews that we've done, that I've done before, that Lego

00:33:37.380 Roscoe has done, I'm sure, in his little plastic world, the interviewer will take for granted

00:33:41.980 what the interviewee says like oh that's interesting next question and then they go

00:33:47.540 on from there but there are several times in the first interview with charlie where his

00:33:51.800 reply back was in a kind way i don't believe you quite yet on that i need you to prove it to me

00:34:01.440 yeah was his response he would challenge you he would challenge you yes which i appreciate i've

00:34:05.660 only ever gotten that once before in an interview ever with with with someone a gentleman named

00:34:10.820 James Altucher who has one of the most popular podcasts over the last what 15 years now and it's

00:34:16.700 just a and I've done hundreds upon hundreds of interviews at this point on books and publishing

00:34:21.660 and our books and whatnot and it's just a rare response but there's one particular moment where

00:34:28.680 the three of us shared during the first interview on the Unhumans book in which we were talking about

00:34:34.600 the overthrow of Russia by leftists and how there was effectively this Bolshevik movement

00:34:42.160 of revolutionary, radical, far-left-wing individuals in Russia, and they had all gathered in effectively

00:34:49.560 one building, one place. They were all there, and the Russian army, the white Russian army

00:34:54.780 under the czar, effectively did nothing to stop it. They allowed the violence to continue

00:35:01.180 to build. And in the midst of this commentary, Charlie cut us both off and he said, I feel like

00:35:08.180 something's about to pop. Something's about to bounce. I can feel it. He said, do you remember

00:35:13.200 that, that moment? And I had a record scratch moment of internal dialogue in my head at that

00:35:19.500 moment. And I thought, oh, that feels really important. I need to remember that of him saying

00:35:26.020 that, predicting that. And of course, the book predicts and explains that we are in a period of

00:35:32.460 revolutionary violence and upheaval within our culture, within our society that's being run by

00:35:39.640 radical left-wing individuals who are thoroughly anti-Christian, thoroughly anti-Christmas,

00:35:47.600 thoroughly anti-Parenthood, anti-the joy of simple moments that we all want to share,

00:35:53.820 And they want to take that away.

00:35:55.860 And they took that away from Charlie's family for the rest of their lives.

00:35:59.440 And, you know, little did we know that on the day the book was slated to come out, that Steve Bannon, who wrote the foreword, would be hauled off to federal prison.

00:36:10.360 10 days after the book came out a radical tried to assassinate Donald Trump and

00:36:19.020 a year and change after the book came out that our friend would be assassinated and

00:36:29.120 you know we were right here in this room and I was sitting just over there when I got interviewed

00:36:35.180 by cnn and they asked me they said are we a civil war and i said well we are facing asymmetric civil

00:36:41.500 warfare my friends in a box and that didn't happen by accident and as as horrible as it is

00:36:48.240 that's exactly what we had said was coming but let's shift off of that but are there any uh

00:36:57.680 any lighter moments any lighter stories with uh with charlie that you can remember

00:37:01.760 there were several moments where it was as if you were interviewing him during our conversations

00:37:09.220 yeah he was he was riffing and he was going off and it was he was in his element and what i

00:37:15.440 appreciated about him both in the interviews i think he interviewed us maybe three times across

00:37:18.960 the two books um there were some remote interviews we did as well yes that's right on on humans and

00:37:24.600 also the bulletproof book uh and it seemed as though he thoroughly enjoyed the experience

00:37:32.000 so so often people who are podcasters who are influencers with a capital i they go through the

00:37:38.760 motions they kind of let's say lock into a mental zone of what they're thinking about what they're

00:37:43.860 what they're focused on what they're working on it's like the next thing and then the next thing

00:37:46.500 and then the next thing um but he was fully present and in the moment one of my favorite

00:37:52.120 memories of his was i was at his one of his fundraising uh presentations uh in which he was

00:37:57.740 basically pitching for donors uh for the turning point and it was incredible what were you doing

00:38:05.020 there you don't have any money uh i'll rest that case later uh in any case charlie was like a tech

00:38:15.260 CEO, venture founder, surrounded by venture capitalists who is absolutely in his storytelling

00:38:21.520 element. And he was going through a slide show, running through it. And you could see people in

00:38:27.660 the audience, given the, let's say the percentage of gray heads of all the heads in the room, 0.60

00:38:34.300 this is the room for Charlie to be in. And he was going through the successes of Turning Point, 0.88

00:38:39.800 going by the numbers, and he was saying what the numbers mean. And then there was one point,

00:38:43.880 after going through the various numbers that we flipped this and we did this and here's what the

00:38:47.280 campuses did and blah blah blah he ran through a bunch of headlines of hit pieces about him

00:38:52.420 personally look at what they've said about me this is what they said about turning point look at this

00:38:56.500 here uh going through the various slurs and claims and insults and he said that's how you know we're

00:39:04.220 doing the right thing can i put you down for five thousand or ten thousand that was the fact by the

00:39:08.880 he used to send me those every single time it happened he loved the media matters hit pieces

00:39:14.240 and and daily write-ups and you know whoever it was and i remember i used to bust him i said charlie

00:39:19.580 how much are you paying to media matters to get them to be your own personal pr department because

00:39:27.320 you know they'd write things up or like charlie kirk claimed the dei is uh is uh racist against

00:39:33.680 white people and it's like yeah it is i mean just like something where we say it and we look at it

00:39:41.020 as a good thing and they say it is so horrible and beyond the pale kind of you know kind of

00:39:45.980 headline or charlie kirk says that you know women shouldn't be in athletic competitions with men

00:39:51.940 you know it's just ridiculous things and and yet people are saying charlie kirk here it is here he's

00:39:58.460 fighting here he's effective and and you're so right that that's exactly what it was but

00:40:01.980 I do want to add something that I don't know if I ever told you before that do you remember that

00:40:06.200 tweet when Unhumans um made the New York Times bestseller list that that he wrote and posted

00:40:14.780 for us you remember that came out that he was so proud that we had made the list and I remember him

00:40:24.080 coming to me and saying you made the list you actually did it and he said you know and I remember

00:40:30.720 I remember he said this you know you didn't ask me he goes Jack you didn't ask me to endorse it

00:40:34.260 you didn't ask Turning Point to buy copies which is true by the way despite what anyone tells you

00:40:40.640 out there he said you guys did that all on your own you really did that on your own I said Charlie

00:40:45.720 that was the test that was the test to see if we could do it and actually do it on our own he said

00:40:51.720 you really did it he was so proud he was so happy maybe a little steam that his own book that year

00:40:59.520 didn't uh didn't make the list in 2020 the mega doctrine is he had mega doctrine but not not his

00:41:05.720 2024 so that was we had a little little competition you know friendly alpha you know a couple of guys

00:41:11.460 having a competition but he was he was so happy i think he was so happy that we got out there and i

00:41:16.780 don't know if i've ever told you that and i wanted to make sure i did say that that that wasn't some

00:41:20.660 form tweet that he was really really happy about that he was that kind of guy he was sort of totally

00:41:25.480 that kind of guy celebrate other people celebrations very much so and celebrate excellence celebrate

00:41:30.060 greatness celebrate achievement and that is that is right wing coded 100 exactly 100 is that we're

00:41:36.060 going to be competitive and you know my book is going to sell more than yours no yours you know

00:41:40.040 like it's you're so competitive but then when someone wins you shake hands and you're happy

00:41:46.380 because at the same time we're all on the same team at the end of the day yes team america and

00:41:51.500 And the values that undergird us, which have somehow become exclusively the domain of the right, heritage, tradition, law, order, kindness, as much as they like to say empathy and decency, generally speaking, the left is empathy-free and decency-free.

00:42:07.520 Indeed.

00:42:07.920 And it is those of us who have this.

00:42:09.960 Of course, today we had the, it's a recording of this, we had that fantastic moment with Target, you know, Target Grandma.

00:42:17.260 Target Grandma, Target Jeannie, yeah.

00:42:18.920 And how she was being harassed by obviously a leftist with the profanities and the attacking her and apparently trying to get her fired from her job. 0.99

00:42:25.660 That's right. 0.94

00:42:25.840 Just doing her job.

00:42:27.180 And Jeannie just responded with simple graciousness and said no, no, no to the various accusations about Charlie and about her. 0.98

00:42:36.180 And simply just turned her back and walked away.

00:42:38.480 And that was the end of it.

00:42:39.960 You know, you can just tell the left, no.

00:42:42.440 You can just say no.

00:42:43.740 You can just say no.

00:42:44.520 And then smile and turn your back and walk away.

00:42:47.740 And she was so polite.

00:42:49.020 But you could tell in that moment the target genie was,

00:42:52.440 you could tell she was pretty tough.

00:42:53.720 I think you could tell that she was pretty tough in that moment

00:42:55.960 and that she really, she stood her ground.

00:42:58.440 She stood her ground.

00:42:59.200 She defended Charlie.

00:43:00.400 And, you know, I got to be backstage there for that moment

00:43:03.360 where she met Erica.

00:43:06.320 Yes.

00:43:07.340 And that was an incredible moment.

00:43:08.860 and um they must have that that was a very powerful hug i was right there i was behind you

00:43:13.520 it was oh that's right that's right my gosh and we were both there were both there and

00:43:17.340 something that some people have noticed as well from um genie's facebook and and she talks about

00:43:24.980 this that she had she had also actually lost her husband uh years before and so what are the odds

00:43:33.560 they were actually both widows and in that moment they got to meet and share a bond that

00:43:41.820 i i don't i mean it's part of a club that obviously nobody wants to ever be in and everyone

00:43:48.560 it's kind of like they say this about gold star families it's a club that nobody ever wants to be

00:43:53.300 in and that every single person would leave if given the chance and what are the odds that they

00:44:01.260 were the part part of that same club so often so much that happens in this story of life does

00:44:07.540 appear to be scripted where there are these unexpected flashpoints just like it's fiction

00:44:16.220 like it's being scripted people will say oh it's uh almost like there's an author of reality or

00:44:21.520 the universe or something like that and speaking of the author of the universe i'm getting the i'm

00:44:27.840 getting the moment call for uh to return the family back so let's see if we can get uncle

00:44:34.120 kevin we can get mama we can get jack jack and maybe aj if he's uh feeling a little better he's

00:44:40.100 he's a little sleepy i just grab him let him sleep let him sleep come have him come out

00:44:43.940 have him come out let the sleepy guy come out you're coming back because thank you jack but

00:44:49.420 no no you're staying you're staying you're saying well let's look at roscoe jack jack have you met

00:44:53.800 Roscoe I was gonna give him a handshake just on my way to Creedmas no you're

00:44:58.180 ready the only way to Creedmas in Miami yeah oh yeah and let's see can we can

00:45:03.640 we get little AJ can we get little AJ where is he whereas he's a little sleepy

00:45:08.740 but that's okay I can give time to my chair the child yeah okay the children

00:45:13.240 Ness are all slugging their beds visions of sugar plums danced in their

00:45:17.500 heads he's got visions of sugar plums dancing in his head right now Merry

00:45:20.720 Merry Christmas everyone. Merry Christmas from the Posos, from neighbor Joshua, from all of us, to all of you.

00:45:27.980 Thank you, everybody.

00:45:29.120 God bless all of you. God bless Charlie Kirk, Erica, and the kids. God bless America. Merry Christmas.

00:45:35.040 And Roscoe.

00:45:36.060 And Roscoe.

00:45:38.960 Jack Jack.

00:45:40.680 What?

00:45:45.020 How do we start?

00:45:47.760 Hail Mary.

00:45:49.580 Enorme.

00:45:50.020 Padre, et Fili, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen.

00:45:55.920 Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum,

00:46:00.940 benedicta tui mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus.

00:46:07.080 Santa Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus,

00:46:12.160 lugu der amotis nostr.

00:46:16.260 Amen.

00:46:16.780 Amen.

00:46:46.780 Debituribus nostris et ne nos inducasem.

00:46:52.540 Sed libera nosa.

00:46:53.880 Mala.

00:46:54.760 Amen.

00:46:56.200 One more.

00:46:58.160 Saint Michael V.

00:46:59.080 Michael V.

00:46:59.240 Archangel, defend us in battle.

00:47:02.800 Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.

00:47:07.240 May God rebuke him, we humbly pray.

00:47:10.360 And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly,

00:47:12.680 with the power of God, cast into hell, Satan, and all the evil spirits, who wander throughout

00:47:21.900 the world, seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

00:47:27.220 Amen.

00:47:27.460 Merry Christmas, everyone.

00:47:40.340 God bless you.

00:47:41.200 keep God at the center of everything you do.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 25, 2025

The Poso Family Christmas

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