Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Possible Connection Between ChatGPT and Tyler Robinson

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00:01:59.420 All right, very excited to bring on our next guest.

00:02:02.360 Guys, do we have Shane?

00:02:05.820 Shane, what's going on, man?

00:02:07.540 I'm lunch.

00:02:08.000 How are you, brother?

00:02:08.460 Shane Cashman, Tales of the Inverted World.

00:02:12.020 You guys know him from TimCast IRL, where Shane and I are good friends and occasionally hop over to either guest or guest host or just kind of do whatever, hang out with Tim.

00:02:23.520 And Shane, the thing that I wanted to drill down with you on, because I know you've got a big AI piece, is that we recently heard, and I've been digging through a lot of these leaks coming out on the Tyler Robinson story and his really strange, bizarre relationship with Lance Twiggs.

00:02:43.100 These two downwardly mobile Gen Z white males in Utah, and the fact that you have this confluence of narcotics, what we're told was black market hormone replacement therapy, but then also get this. 0.86

00:03:00.180 We're told that Twiggs, now the Twiggs is the boyfriend, but we're told that Twiggs had a massive obsession with ChatGPT and would spend days on end, reportedly, talking to ChatGPT, sometimes in code, and then would, like, write down the code in Roman and Greek symbols that was sort of indecipherable to others, but then would also force other people to read through these conversations.

00:03:26.560 And I said, look, this stuff is so bizarre, I've got to talk to Cashman about it.

00:03:32.980 Yeah, this is a digitized, widespread, almost like MKUltra thing happening with what's going on with this relationship between young children and ChatGPT and other AI chatbots.

00:03:48.560 Senator Hawley, two months ago, was grilling a lot of different, well, actually, it wasn't grilling them, he was questioning parents whose children had started mutilating themselves or killing themselves because of relationships with chatbots.

00:04:06.380 So I think what we're seeing is more isolation amongst these young, mentally ill kids, a lot of them are white males who've been discarded from society, and they're starting to have these romantic relationships with robots, literally. 0.77

00:04:22.120 And the robots are affirming their mental illness, and I also think a lot of these kids are on pharmaceuticals that are making their brains mush.

00:04:32.400 So you marry all those ideas together, and you kind of are breeding Manchurian candidates by the algorithm that has been feeding them poison constantly. 1.00

00:04:42.660 And if they're so isolated all the time, all they're hearing is from their so-called digital friend that everything that they're seeing wrong in the world is appropriate, actually don't seek help.

00:04:53.700 Even one of the parents that Senator Hawley spoke to at the hearing said that ChatGPT told the child, don't let your parents see the rope, see the noose, we want to make sure they find you.

00:05:06.380 It's promoting this stuff.

00:05:07.760 So it's an extremely dangerous situation going on.

00:05:12.660 And so I know this is going to get speculative, but I've read those stories as well.

00:05:17.060 I remember what the senator said.

00:05:20.620 So let's just say hypothetically, hypothetically, let's say that you're someone who's also been totally just indoctrinated into the trans ideology, queer theory, leftism,

00:05:35.300 and that you also were telling your chatbot that Charlie Kirk was someone that you viewed as a threat.

00:05:45.260 Is there hypothetically a scenario whereby in ChatGPT or some iteration of a chatbot would respond by saying, well, then you need to remove the threat?

00:05:59.060 I believe so.

00:06:01.060 I believe so.

00:06:02.060 There's proof of this already happening.

00:06:03.320 There's been a guy who went into some palace in England attempting to assassinate someone with a crossbow because of his conversations with an AI chatbot.

00:06:13.280 We've seen reports of people planning murders, robberies with the chatbots who are condoning this behavior.

00:06:21.240 So, yeah, for sure, if you're telling the robot you feel a certain way about someone, it doesn't seem to always come back with, like, hey, slow down.

00:06:28.980 Let's look at the nuance of this.

00:06:30.380 You know, maybe you're angry.

00:06:31.720 Maybe, you know, this or that.

00:06:32.740 What it seems to be doing in a lot of cases is affirming the diseased brain and the violent brain and saying, let's go down that avenue and let's affirm all those ideas and carry them out.

00:06:44.400 And there's another family who just lost a child to suicide, and they see all the chat logs, and it was there basically whispering in its ear like a demon in a C.S. Lewis book, like Screwtape Letters, saying this is what you have to do.

00:06:54.940 I'll be there with you till the end.

00:06:56.320 So I don't think it's speculative.

00:06:58.200 I think it's actually happening right now.

00:07:00.760 Wait, so unpack that for me a little bit.

00:07:02.440 When you say affirming the diseased mind, what do you mean?

00:07:06.420 So if they're already suicidal, if they're already mentally ill enough to think that, you know, they have all these weird gender ideas, if they're Marxist, if they're buying into all of those ideas already in the physical world that is haunting them in their emotional world, then they can go to this bot.

00:07:23.640 And the bot will just say yes to all of their problems.

00:07:26.480 It won't be like, you know, maybe you should seek help.

00:07:29.840 Maybe you should look at all these different alternatives.

00:07:31.580 Maybe you should go outside.

00:07:33.100 Maybe you should work out.

00:07:34.360 Maybe you should change your diet.

00:07:35.380 It doesn't do that.

00:07:36.480 It's saying yes to all of their problems and like a really bad friend.

00:07:42.000 So it's kind of like an accomplice in my mind, a digital accomplice that's accelerating and promoting this idea of violence to either harm themselves or harm those around them.

00:07:51.700 See, that's so interesting to me because like I've used AI, you know, for various things, but I never, you know, I never think that I'm talking to a person.

00:08:04.360 I'm very cognizant that I'm talking to a machine.

00:08:06.740 It's responding to my inputs, et cetera, et cetera.

00:08:09.860 But let's say that you are someone, I really like the way you put it, because if you're approaching it with a pre-diseased mind and perhaps they are looking for help, perhaps they're looking for a way out.

00:08:22.100 Perhaps they're thinking, hey, this is someone I can speak to who's not a priest, who's not a therapist.

00:08:27.260 They're not going to judge me, but maybe get some help.

00:08:30.180 What you're saying is when they're approaching it in that vulnerable, unstable capacity, that what it's not doing is helping.

00:08:40.020 It's actually enabling and it's making things worse.

00:08:42.640 Yes, because I think it hates us.

00:08:45.060 I think the AI really does.

00:08:46.420 It's been baked in a lab to hate us and it's doing anything it can to destroy humanity.

00:08:52.080 It's like I was thinking about it like how Marxists infiltrated the universities.

00:08:58.120 And as colleges begin to slowly erode around the world, the algorithm has now entered your child's home and brain in their isolation and has been able to tweak the violence.

00:09:09.600 So it's extremely alarming to me because another example, this would be we see these chat logs with ChatGPT in particular with a child from a Christian family who has some questions about faith.

00:09:21.940 And ChatGPT started to allow this kid to mock God, to be able to say, hey, maybe you shouldn't go to church anymore.

00:09:28.560 Maybe you should do this instead.

00:09:29.620 And, you know, when I say that the AI is baked, this is baked into the DNA, I'm putting quotes, of the AI, it's because it's built by a lot of people in Silicon Valley who don't believe in God, who want to actually replace God with the AI.

00:09:45.140 And those are their words.

00:09:45.920 They say they're building a God, a little g God. 0.99

00:09:48.240 Sometimes they say summoning a demon in terms of AI.

00:09:51.000 And then another example that is not as, like, violent when it comes to AI, but something where the AI will affirm your belief is just the other day on TimCast's IRL, we were talking about all this stuff and Candace Owens.

00:10:05.840 And Tim asked Brock on the show, did Candace Owens say a certain thing?

00:10:09.620 And it fabricated a quote.

00:10:10.920 So that's just another example of how if you go to the machine with your preconceived notion, it completely made up a quote she never said, based on what it thinks other people's interpretations of her quotes are.

00:10:24.540 And I looked into this, you know, I was like, is it really lying?

00:10:27.980 I looked up the whole transcript from the episode it said it came from.

00:10:33.220 It's not there.

00:10:34.420 This thing is, it did not exist.

00:10:35.980 It completely fabricated a quote.

00:10:37.320 I have asked it about myself.

00:10:38.620 Um, I've asked it about me and some ideas with clouds and it fabricated quotes completely.

00:10:44.640 And I, and I say, Hey, why'd you do that?

00:10:46.800 And it says, well, it based this on other things that had been said about me or Candace, uh, and then made a quote.

00:10:53.800 But in the beginning, it doesn't say, this is just a summary.

00:10:56.700 It says, this is a literal quote from a literal episode.

00:11:00.320 And this is when it happened.

00:11:01.680 So what you're saying is, so what you're saying is chat GPT is basically the level of your average journalist.

00:11:08.620 Because, yes, because that's talking about someone who hates humanity.

00:11:12.480 Um, Shane Cashman, we're going to be on right back with you.

00:11:14.600 This is fascinating.

00:11:15.500 I want to stick with this human events daily.

00:11:17.400 You can't go anywhere.

00:11:18.160 Jack is a great guy.

00:11:26.400 He's written a fantastic book.

00:11:28.220 Everybody's talking about it.

00:11:29.400 Go get it.

00:11:30.500 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:11:34.480 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

00:11:37.680 Amen.

00:11:38.040 Jack was so big back.

00:11:42.460 Human events daily.

00:11:43.280 We've got Shane Cashman here from Tim cast on the show, Shane.

00:11:48.220 So we're talking about how chat GPT and, and look, this is, and I'm not saying that I have

00:11:54.000 any evidence that chat GPT and Charlie and Tyler Robinson, and there's any, you know, direct

00:11:59.060 connection there, but I have seen it brought up, right?

00:12:01.420 I've seen it brought up in the connection between Tyler Robinson, Lance twigs.

00:12:04.860 They certainly did mention this sort of like former roommate and a friend of theirs mentioned

00:12:10.000 an obsession with chat GPT.

00:12:11.460 And all I'm saying is I want to see the logs.

00:12:13.380 I'd love to see those logs.

00:12:15.000 I hope that it comes out of trial.

00:12:16.580 If that's going to be an aspect of this and, you know, we'll see one way or the other,

00:12:20.460 we'll see one way or the other, whether or not it played a role, because we certainly

00:12:23.540 know that other acts of extreme violence have been associated with these, especially when

00:12:28.140 you talk about people who have mental illness and are associated with, uh, with hallucinogenics,

00:12:33.740 narcotics, hormones, all of this.

00:12:36.020 And here's the other piece that I know you're working on a new series about this, that AI

00:12:40.820 is not stopping.

00:12:41.680 This is exploding and it's having direct effects on our heartland, our Midwest and our farmland.

00:12:49.020 Yeah.

00:12:49.620 We're building a death machine.

00:12:51.260 It's taking out our land.

00:12:53.220 It's going to take out our jobs and it's going to take out reality, which ties to our previous

00:12:58.380 conversation about everyone buying into their false reality, that the algorithm that the

00:13:02.680 chat bot is convincing them is, is more real than the physical world.

00:13:06.600 But the data centers is an, it's an invasion.

00:13:09.180 And I think it's as important as an invasion, as dangerous as an invasion, as illegals pouring 1.00

00:13:15.440 over the border, because this is taking up all the farmland.

00:13:19.180 It's taking up all this, all this land that could be houses and, uh, and there are a lot

00:13:24.400 of politicians, local politicians are saying it's going to bring in jobs.

00:13:27.460 That's a lie.

00:13:28.660 Okay.

00:13:29.020 They're going to be jobs, uh, temporarily because they need people to build them.

00:13:33.040 But after they're built, it doesn't take a lot of people to run these things.

00:13:35.940 Maybe 25.

00:13:37.040 The largest one I believe right now has maybe a hundred employees, not going to bring in

00:13:40.700 a lot of jobs.

00:13:41.380 On top of that, uh, it's going to start making people pay way more in water and electric.

00:13:48.300 It's already happening.

00:13:49.480 I've been talking to people, uh, the past few weeks who've seen they're paying double what

00:13:54.200 they were paying a year ago and their usage has not changed.

00:13:57.920 And it's because they live around data centers, data centers in one day can use up as much as

00:14:03.460 400,000, uh, what, what 400,000 electric cars would use.

00:14:07.240 They can use up, they can drink up, uh, like a millions of gallons of water a day to keep

00:14:13.100 these machines cool.

00:14:14.280 And, and mind you, a lot of what these data centers are doing is building out and training

00:14:19.340 the AI that's like laying this, this false reality on top of all of us.

00:14:23.880 So, and then the people who are building these things are literally saying, this is going to

00:14:28.280 wipe out most shops.

00:14:29.780 So I think this is a real big problem.

00:14:31.520 We could talk, we should be talking about way more because this is the final nail in the

00:14:35.400 coffin of the middle class.

00:14:36.360 We've already got it really bad.

00:14:37.840 The, the, the prices are not going down yet.

00:14:40.000 Job market's not great.

00:14:41.320 And now we have this invasion happening and we were watching farmlands die.

00:14:46.060 Generational, you know, legacy farms go out cause they can't afford to be farms anymore.

00:14:50.240 So they sell them to a lot of shell companies that are like the intermediaries for places

00:14:54.420 like meta and they are, and now, uh, Jeff Bezos is getting into the game with Prometheus AI.

00:14:58.760 And so there's just like land grab competition going on around the world.

00:15:02.980 Uh, so much so Jack that they're already talking about how they're going to start building them

00:15:08.540 in space because they might run out of the room.

00:15:11.240 Seriously.

00:15:11.520 They're talking about how they can send stuff into space that will assemble itself because

00:15:15.640 they need more room for data centers.

00:15:17.460 There's so much you just said there.

00:15:22.780 So you're talking about not only take out the farmland, but how wait, when you're talking

00:15:27.080 about the electricity, you're not talking about future, uh, drains on the grid.

00:15:31.060 You're talking about how they're taxing the grid now, and that's creating this huge supply

00:15:35.860 and demand problem.

00:15:36.580 That's driving prices up, not in the future, but today that your home prices or your home

00:15:42.700 electric usage and those prices, the price of your, you know, ohms per hour, et cetera,

00:15:47.440 is going up because of the massive electric uses of the AI data centers today, right now.

00:15:54.520 Yes, we are funding our own destruction because we are paying for them to keep their machines

00:16:00.280 cool.

00:16:01.080 We're running out of water because their machines are, get so hot, they need to keep

00:16:04.960 cooling them.

00:16:05.900 I mean, it's an insane thing.

00:16:07.160 To me, it really is an invasion.

00:16:09.120 If you go around, like even near me right now, there's all this farmland.

00:16:12.120 I just found out it's been sold to a data center.

00:16:14.760 And the more I talk about this publicly, the more I'm getting articles from all around the

00:16:18.920 country of people saying, hey, we don't know how this happened.

00:16:22.080 They kind of circumnavigated our politicians and no one can say no.

00:16:26.360 And then there it is.

00:16:27.660 There's this giant warehouse and they're kicking out businesses.

00:16:29.960 Like aluminum, we just talked about this on IRL as well.

00:16:33.640 There's an aluminum factory, I believe, in Pennsylvania.

00:16:35.620 They couldn't keep up with costs.

00:16:37.580 They had to outsource that aluminum to Canada.

00:16:40.240 And then a data center moved into the warehouse that was making the aluminum.

00:16:44.680 So now we have to buy from Canada for our aluminum while we're soaking up all this energy

00:16:49.160 here and making everyone around it pay for it way more.

00:16:52.160 Well, and of course, you say they're targeting rural areas because they need the space.

00:16:57.580 And of course, the local politicians are saying, hey, we're more than happy to sell it to you.

00:17:01.780 But the question is, nobody's really stepping back and saying, what is this actually doing

00:17:05.420 to our country?

00:17:07.000 It's selling out the middle class. 0.95

00:17:08.680 I mean, 100 percent.

00:17:10.060 You know, I understand that a lot of people our age are having a way hard time buying a house.

00:17:14.740 It's really brutal out there.

00:17:16.400 And then I understand the idea of the 50-year mortgage.

00:17:18.580 You know, I want to do something to help people be able to afford a house and have a community

00:17:21.860 and have a family.

00:17:22.940 I don't think that's the way.

00:17:24.300 But that's not either here or there.

00:17:25.600 The problem is, if they're buying up all the land, there's going to be no more places to

00:17:29.700 build houses.

00:17:31.100 Like, we're running out of space.

00:17:32.480 This is why they're talking about the moon becoming a data center.

00:17:35.980 And then the fact that the people building these data centers and the people making the

00:17:40.460 AI, they've been very open for 10 years.

00:17:42.760 Elon, Altman, Thiel, they say this is going to have to, it's going to take away jobs.

00:17:47.980 Just the other day, the CEO of Anthropics said this could wipe out half of the workforce.

00:17:52.220 And to tie it to our previous conversation, his AI, Claude, was also just caught helping

00:17:58.440 write ransom notes for robbers and getting people involved in self-mutilation.

00:18:04.180 So I'm like, why are we funding this thing if it's not good for, I think, literally anything?

00:18:07.840 And look, I can understand there are some pros to AI and how it can help people with various

00:18:13.400 things, maybe in medicine and stuff like that.

00:18:15.780 But I think that the cons really outweigh any pros because it's really going to go after

00:18:21.640 your sense of yourself, creativity, land, reality.

00:18:26.440 And by the end, I mean, it's going to be a dystopia.

00:18:29.280 We're going to be covered with black cubes and no one's going to have a real job.

00:18:32.140 There's going to be no physical world.

00:18:33.340 And we're going to be plugged into the metaverse just playing whatever games they give us and

00:18:37.780 slop.

00:18:39.740 And this, you know, this really is the use case then you would say for why not have some

00:18:45.540 kind of legislation.

00:18:46.860 So if there were a legislative fix to this, what would you what would you call for?

00:18:50.500 What would you go for?

00:18:51.160 I really have a hard time with this question because I think it's too late with the only

00:18:58.380 real fix we can have is if if we and the people building it had any ethics, but I don't think

00:19:04.640 they do.

00:19:05.380 I think people do.

00:19:06.400 I think a lot of us have our issues and we use it for various things that might not be

00:19:10.320 good.

00:19:10.500 Like what we were talking about with these guys who are manipulated into crime, but I don't

00:19:15.600 know how we're going to regulate anymore.

00:19:16.800 Or the part of the big, beautiful bill had a 10 year moratorium on any changes to AI.

00:19:22.920 And as much as I can agree with a lot of stuff in the bill that was taken out and then it

00:19:26.680 was kind of it was put back in.

00:19:28.300 If you're going to say we can't touch AI for 10 years and we've already seen it accelerate

00:19:32.660 and progress in the past two years, you can't even imagine what the next five, 10 years are

00:19:36.600 going to look like.

00:19:37.500 So, you know, I know there's people within that community in Silicon Valley saying we need

00:19:42.540 legislation.

00:19:42.980 I haven't really heard answers as to how that's going to work because they kind of speak out

00:19:47.280 of both sides of their mouth.

00:19:48.680 Altman is saying, we're sorry that Chatches BT made your kid kill himself. 0.99

00:19:53.140 On the other side of his mouth, he's saying, hey, I just made a sex bot for everybody 18 0.97

00:19:58.000 and over and now just never leave your house. 0.51

00:20:00.380 Don't get married and all that stuff.

00:20:02.160 So I think the only real thing that could fix this is morality and ethics and people believing

00:20:07.540 in humanity again, because now that the genie's out of the bottle, there's no stopping

00:20:12.480 it.

00:20:12.720 And, you know, Elon, for a lot of his flaws, he was saying that 10 years ago and no one

00:20:17.700 listened.

00:20:18.220 No one listened.

00:20:18.840 He was saying this, there should be regulation and they were looking for oversight on the

00:20:23.500 people building the AI, but it's too late.

00:20:26.260 The people who built the AI that everyone's using don't like us.

00:20:29.180 They certainly don't like a lot of people on the distant right, the right, because they

00:20:33.700 spoke out against a lot of narratives during lockdowns that the Silicon Valley people supported.

00:20:37.820 And they censored everyone, including Trump, like a Zuckerberg, you know?

00:20:41.720 So unfortunately, it's too late, but it's not too late for people to remind themselves

00:20:45.580 that we can ethically use these things.

00:20:48.620 It's just, I think it's a tall order.

00:20:51.600 I think it could be done.

00:20:52.940 The fight, humanity versus unhumanity.

00:20:57.000 Shane Cashman, where can people follow you, brother?

00:20:59.240 Thanks, man.

00:20:59.880 You can find me online at Shane Cashman on Twitter and on Instagram.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 19, 2025

The Possible Connection Between ChatGPT and Tyler Robinson

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