What happens when the Fourth Turning meets Fifth Generation Warfare? A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobiec, joins host Jack to discuss the growing relationship between AI chatbots and young children.
00:02:08.460Shane Cashman, Tales of the Inverted World.
00:02:12.020You guys know him from TimCast IRL, where Shane and I are good friends and occasionally hop over to either guest or guest host or just kind of do whatever, hang out with Tim.
00:02:23.520And Shane, the thing that I wanted to drill down with you on, because I know you've got a big AI piece, is that we recently heard, and I've been digging through a lot of these leaks coming out on the Tyler Robinson story and his really strange, bizarre relationship with Lance Twiggs.
00:02:43.100These two downwardly mobile Gen Z white males in Utah, and the fact that you have this confluence of narcotics, what we're told was black market hormone replacement therapy, but then also get this.
00:03:00.180We're told that Twiggs, now the Twiggs is the boyfriend, but we're told that Twiggs had a massive obsession with ChatGPT and would spend days on end, reportedly, talking to ChatGPT, sometimes in code, and then would, like, write down the code in Roman and Greek symbols that was sort of indecipherable to others, but then would also force other people to read through these conversations.
00:03:26.560And I said, look, this stuff is so bizarre, I've got to talk to Cashman about it.
00:03:32.980Yeah, this is a digitized, widespread, almost like MKUltra thing happening with what's going on with this relationship between young children and ChatGPT and other AI chatbots.
00:03:48.560Senator Hawley, two months ago, was grilling a lot of different, well, actually, it wasn't grilling them, he was questioning parents whose children had started mutilating themselves or killing themselves because of relationships with chatbots.
00:04:06.380So I think what we're seeing is more isolation amongst these young, mentally ill kids, a lot of them are white males who've been discarded from society, and they're starting to have these romantic relationships with robots, literally.
00:04:22.120And the robots are affirming their mental illness, and I also think a lot of these kids are on pharmaceuticals that are making their brains mush.
00:04:32.400So you marry all those ideas together, and you kind of are breeding Manchurian candidates by the algorithm that has been feeding them poison constantly.
00:04:42.660And if they're so isolated all the time, all they're hearing is from their so-called digital friend that everything that they're seeing wrong in the world is appropriate, actually don't seek help.
00:04:53.700Even one of the parents that Senator Hawley spoke to at the hearing said that ChatGPT told the child, don't let your parents see the rope, see the noose, we want to make sure they find you.
00:05:20.620So let's just say hypothetically, hypothetically, let's say that you're someone who's also been totally just indoctrinated into the trans ideology, queer theory, leftism,
00:05:35.300and that you also were telling your chatbot that Charlie Kirk was someone that you viewed as a threat.
00:05:45.260Is there hypothetically a scenario whereby in ChatGPT or some iteration of a chatbot would respond by saying, well, then you need to remove the threat?
00:06:02.060There's proof of this already happening.
00:06:03.320There's been a guy who went into some palace in England attempting to assassinate someone with a crossbow because of his conversations with an AI chatbot.
00:06:13.280We've seen reports of people planning murders, robberies with the chatbots who are condoning this behavior.
00:06:21.240So, yeah, for sure, if you're telling the robot you feel a certain way about someone, it doesn't seem to always come back with, like, hey, slow down.
00:06:32.740What it seems to be doing in a lot of cases is affirming the diseased brain and the violent brain and saying, let's go down that avenue and let's affirm all those ideas and carry them out.
00:06:44.400And there's another family who just lost a child to suicide, and they see all the chat logs, and it was there basically whispering in its ear like a demon in a C.S. Lewis book, like Screwtape Letters, saying this is what you have to do.
00:06:58.200I think it's actually happening right now.
00:07:00.760Wait, so unpack that for me a little bit.
00:07:02.440When you say affirming the diseased mind, what do you mean?
00:07:06.420So if they're already suicidal, if they're already mentally ill enough to think that, you know, they have all these weird gender ideas, if they're Marxist, if they're buying into all of those ideas already in the physical world that is haunting them in their emotional world, then they can go to this bot.
00:07:23.640And the bot will just say yes to all of their problems.
00:07:26.480It won't be like, you know, maybe you should seek help.
00:07:29.840Maybe you should look at all these different alternatives.
00:07:36.480It's saying yes to all of their problems and like a really bad friend.
00:07:42.000So it's kind of like an accomplice in my mind, a digital accomplice that's accelerating and promoting this idea of violence to either harm themselves or harm those around them.
00:07:51.700See, that's so interesting to me because like I've used AI, you know, for various things, but I never, you know, I never think that I'm talking to a person.
00:08:04.360I'm very cognizant that I'm talking to a machine.
00:08:06.740It's responding to my inputs, et cetera, et cetera.
00:08:09.860But let's say that you are someone, I really like the way you put it, because if you're approaching it with a pre-diseased mind and perhaps they are looking for help, perhaps they're looking for a way out.
00:08:22.100Perhaps they're thinking, hey, this is someone I can speak to who's not a priest, who's not a therapist.
00:08:27.260They're not going to judge me, but maybe get some help.
00:08:30.180What you're saying is when they're approaching it in that vulnerable, unstable capacity, that what it's not doing is helping.
00:08:40.020It's actually enabling and it's making things worse.
00:08:46.420It's been baked in a lab to hate us and it's doing anything it can to destroy humanity.
00:08:52.080It's like I was thinking about it like how Marxists infiltrated the universities.
00:08:58.120And as colleges begin to slowly erode around the world, the algorithm has now entered your child's home and brain in their isolation and has been able to tweak the violence.
00:09:09.600So it's extremely alarming to me because another example, this would be we see these chat logs with ChatGPT in particular with a child from a Christian family who has some questions about faith.
00:09:21.940And ChatGPT started to allow this kid to mock God, to be able to say, hey, maybe you shouldn't go to church anymore.
00:09:29.620And, you know, when I say that the AI is baked, this is baked into the DNA, I'm putting quotes, of the AI, it's because it's built by a lot of people in Silicon Valley who don't believe in God, who want to actually replace God with the AI.
00:09:45.920They say they're building a God, a little g God.
00:09:48.240Sometimes they say summoning a demon in terms of AI.
00:09:51.000And then another example that is not as, like, violent when it comes to AI, but something where the AI will affirm your belief is just the other day on TimCast's IRL, we were talking about all this stuff and Candace Owens.
00:10:05.840And Tim asked Brock on the show, did Candace Owens say a certain thing?
00:10:10.920So that's just another example of how if you go to the machine with your preconceived notion, it completely made up a quote she never said, based on what it thinks other people's interpretations of her quotes are.
00:10:24.540And I looked into this, you know, I was like, is it really lying?
00:10:27.980I looked up the whole transcript from the episode it said it came from.