Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Power of Alternative Media

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00:00:26.900 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the segment where we start talking about

00:00:29.920 alternative media, and the reason I get the blessed opportunity to kind of

00:00:35.080 moderate this section is because I've written three books with General Flynn

00:00:39.320 on fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.900 When we talk about manipulation, we talk about influence,

00:00:44.000 we talk about all the things that come into this cognitive battle space,

00:00:47.500 and each one of the people up here has had something,

00:00:51.180 has been affected in that space, whether it's a politician,

00:00:54.740 whether it's a 30-year journalist, or whether it's an intelligence officer

00:00:58.960 that's come into the media, the game has changed when it comes to media.

00:01:04.120 Legacy media is kind of dying out, and we've got the alternative media right now,

00:01:09.320 but we have to ask ourselves, what is the alternative media?

00:01:12.740 Because one person will say it's one thing.

00:01:14.720 Another person will say it's another thing.

00:01:16.520 So I want to lead off with that question, starting with Congressman Crane.

00:01:22.160 First of all, tell us a little bit about yourself,

00:01:24.700 how the alternative media helped you in your campaign,

00:01:28.320 because it was very significant, and what do you consider alternative media?

00:01:34.260 Yeah, well, thank you for allowing me to be here,

00:01:36.980 and thank you guys for coming.

00:01:38.800 You know, it's interesting being up on a panel with these two guys.

00:01:42.700 They're definitely the subject matter experts when it comes to media.

00:01:47.380 You know, they create media, and they've done a good job, I think,

00:01:50.940 alerting Americans to so many things that the mainstream does not cover.

00:01:55.120 And as somebody who comes from a service background and a business background

00:01:59.980 and was watching the direction of where this country was headed

00:02:03.280 and decided to try and get up here to do everything I could

00:02:07.200 to, you know, keep us as free and prosperous as I grew up,

00:02:12.720 and many of us have been blessed to grow up with here,

00:02:15.760 I've really been able to benefit from alternative media

00:02:19.660 and some of what these guys do.

00:02:21.440 First, in running for office, many of you guys know

00:02:24.560 that there is an establishment up here.

00:02:27.720 You know, often we refer to it as the uniparty.

00:02:32.100 They don't typically like guys like me,

00:02:34.180 and so they try and do everything in the world to keep us from getting up here

00:02:37.900 because they know or they fear that we're not going to play ball

00:02:40.780 when we get here.

00:02:42.220 And so just getting in, you know, was difficult,

00:02:45.500 especially in my race.

00:02:47.640 We were taking on an incumbent Democrat.

00:02:50.520 And unlike a lot of candidates who, you know,

00:02:54.740 want to just get on Fox News all the time,

00:02:57.020 I was doing podcasts and, you know, multiple, you know,

00:03:00.780 countless interviews with alternative media.

00:03:04.500 And that really helped me get my message across to the people.

00:03:07.160 It helped me raise the resources to get up here.

00:03:10.300 And I would say one of the other great things about it

00:03:13.320 is it's allowed me in many ways to stay ahead of the curve.

00:03:17.160 Because when you follow guys like these

00:03:19.540 and like a war room show with Steve Bannon,

00:03:23.840 I feel like you're always two, three, four, five,

00:03:27.100 six months ahead of everybody else because the mainstream media tends to look at

00:03:31.200 they're almost like, you know,

00:03:34.260 sitting on a panel and they're looking at the other mainstream shows and like,

00:03:37.800 well, are they going to cover it?

00:03:39.040 Are they going to cover this?

00:03:40.040 Is this too dicey?

00:03:41.220 Well, then we're not going to cover it.

00:03:42.920 And they often have a lot of, I think,

00:03:46.720 self-imposed reflection because of some of their sponsors and donors.

00:03:50.940 And so it's been a blessing for many of us that are kind of outsiders.

00:03:55.140 A follow-up question on that.

00:03:57.080 Do you think you could have become a congressman without the alternative media?

00:04:00.880 Not in this environment, no.

00:04:02.220 No, no.

00:04:03.620 Good.

00:04:04.180 Laura, you've been in the media game for about 30 years now,

00:04:07.560 maybe a little bit more.

00:04:09.180 You've seen the media change.

00:04:10.840 You started out in legacy media.

00:04:12.660 You were a leader there, leading shows, top shows.

00:04:16.220 Now you've slid over to alternative media.

00:04:18.700 What changed?

00:04:21.340 What changed for you?

00:04:22.600 And how would you define alternative media?

00:04:25.740 I object to the term slid.

00:04:28.020 Slid.

00:04:29.040 It was more like a crash and burn nuclear explosion.

00:04:33.420 I would say, I don't slide anywhere, Boone.

00:04:36.760 I announced my presence with authority.

00:04:39.680 Okay.

00:04:39.820 So, well, you know, I would say what changed wasn't me, actually.

00:04:47.040 I did everything the same way I had always done it.

00:04:50.220 I believed we were a force for truth and for good in the world.

00:04:54.360 And I worked with many great journalists.

00:04:56.540 And so it's a little bit different for me.

00:04:59.000 When you're on the outside of that, like I would meet people like you all the time,

00:05:02.620 especially on the battlefield, and they would tell me how biased the media was.

00:05:05.920 And I was perplexed because nobody told me what to put in my stories, but it's what you

00:05:11.900 talk about, that kind of self-censorship.

00:05:14.480 And it's born out of two things in the mainstream media.

00:05:17.300 One, it's just, it's born out of the fact that it's a recruiting ground for people who think

00:05:22.820 and see the world the same way.

00:05:24.720 So most people within the mainstream media, I would say before the election of Donald Trump,

00:05:30.440 if we can look at the media in terms of pre-2016 and post-2016, I think that will help you understand

00:05:37.560 the shift in the media environment.

00:05:39.600 Because we went from a place where there was an intrinsic bias born out of accepted narratives

00:05:46.120 that were propagated really within the education system.

00:05:50.400 So long before the media became compliant, the education system was overtaken.

00:05:55.340 And that really reaches right back to the Franklin School and, you know, pre-World War II, when

00:06:01.380 Columbia University made an alliance with Marxists out of Germany, and the takeover of the Department

00:06:07.960 of Education.

00:06:08.920 And these things can't be overstated how important they are, because you literally just don't

00:06:13.680 encounter anyone who thinks a different way within that media space.

00:06:18.680 And if you do, if there are journalists who maybe are pro-life or something, you just,

00:06:24.020 they don't speak up because they're outnumbered.

00:06:27.860 And you just know that those ideas are not going to be accepted.

00:06:31.440 Then when you look at the fact that we instituted systems of punishment, right?

00:06:36.160 So organizations like Media Matters for America, I don't understand why those people are still

00:06:41.120 breathing.

00:06:41.740 I really don't.

00:06:42.820 I mean, they're oxygen thieves of the worst kind.

00:06:44.900 These people seek to destroy. 0.93

00:06:46.980 They wake up every day and their mission is to destroy and they're evil and they're well

00:06:52.740 funded and they're well connected.

00:06:54.800 So when you have organizations like that, they work with the media organizations and they

00:06:59.800 create an environment in which truth and integrity is punished and deception and cowardice is

00:07:06.940 rewarded.

00:07:07.920 So journalists self-select on their stories and they do.

00:07:10.900 And so for, you know, for me, what happened is I followed the story.

00:07:15.040 I followed the truth and when it came up against politics, I didn't think for a moment that

00:07:20.940 anyone would put politics over the truth.

00:07:22.680 That's how naive I was.

00:07:24.260 And I was, you know, the future of the, of 60 Minutes, the greatest news program in the

00:07:28.020 world, in history.

00:07:29.040 And I was the chief foreign correspondent.

00:07:31.300 And I, and we just did our, and we worked hard.

00:07:34.180 That's the other thing for people to understand is when you look at the media and you criticize

00:07:38.080 everything, the, what's being lost is real profound institutional knowledge and hard work

00:07:44.380 in the craft of journalism.

00:07:46.640 What has led us here is a lack of moral courage, but also complicity.

00:07:50.960 At this point, the media are co-conspirators in the seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government

00:07:56.280 of the United States and an attack on this country in, in the most profound way.

00:08:01.460 You, you can only put Adam Schiff on TV so many times before you recognize that you're

00:08:06.920 promoting a dishonest political agenda.

00:08:10.060 So you can no longer defend that.

00:08:12.260 You can't defend putting John Brennan on television at this point.

00:08:15.640 There's no defense of that.

00:08:17.320 So I think it's very important to me for people to recognize when the media transitioned from

00:08:22.820 self-interest and just general moral cowardice and laziness to actually being co-conspirators

00:08:29.880 in, uh, in treason and sedition.

00:08:33.240 Thank you very much, Jack.

00:08:35.040 I got a big question for you.

00:08:36.240 Give her a round of applause, everybody.

00:08:40.420 Jack, I've watched you, you know, from the beginning, you know, kind of come up this ladder

00:08:45.020 here.

00:08:45.340 You can come out of the Navy as an intelligence from the intelligence community in the Navy.

00:08:49.520 And I watch your style.

00:08:52.040 Okay.

00:08:52.800 But for the audience here, I'd really like you to tell everybody how the, how your style

00:09:00.000 from that intelligence community affects and shapes the media that you do and how big of

00:09:06.920 a factor is that in the strength of alternative media?

00:09:11.080 Well, thank you.

00:09:11.960 I appreciate that.

00:09:12.720 And, and thanks again to general Flynn, the entire team for putting this together, for having

00:09:17.180 us on.

00:09:17.720 Um, I'll mention it because most people don't always know the backstory that when I was in

00:09:22.500 Navy intelligence, I was at one point assigned to the defense intelligence agency.

00:09:27.500 It was deployed to Guantanamo Bay, worked in the J2X interrogation cell down there in the

00:09:32.300 human operation center.

00:09:33.700 And the director of the DIA at that time, all those years ago is sitting in the front row

00:09:40.740 right here.

00:09:41.360 That was general Flynn's who I served under in the DIA.

00:09:44.660 So a lot of people don't realize how much of a backstory that so many of the people in

00:09:49.140 this room have that through a, a, you know, completely precipitous, uh, series of events

00:09:55.780 have now ended up in this place.

00:09:57.800 And so when you talk about the style, the style that I have is the style that I was trained

00:10:02.540 on as a first in intelligence, uh, I was enlisted and then became later an officer.

00:10:08.480 And I remember always being taught, be good, be brief, be gone and have the bluff, put the

00:10:13.480 bottom line up front.

00:10:14.660 Remember the bluff general.

00:10:15.540 So it's, it's, you've got to have that big headline, you know, you'd say headline in

00:10:21.980 today's parlance, but it was, what's the, so what, what is the, so what I could put up

00:10:26.940 a briefing slide in front of you and walk you through all of the different net connections

00:10:31.280 and all of the different, uh, background on any specific problem set, whether it be a terrorist

00:10:37.620 cell, whether it be a Chinese communist party influence network, whatever it might be smuggling,

00:10:42.640 et cetera.

00:10:43.500 But if I'm not giving you the, so what right up front, then I'm wasting your time and I'm

00:10:48.440 wasting everyone's time.

00:10:49.660 And so when I bring my approach to, you know, whatever it is you call, I do independent media,

00:10:55.600 that that's something that's always deeply ingrained in my mind, be good, be brief, be

00:10:59.960 gone and be clear.

00:11:01.760 If you're not speaking with clarity, then you're not properly communicating because effective

00:11:06.500 communication begins with that.

00:11:08.360 And, you know, it's so interesting looking at, as you say, this journey from being inside

00:11:12.600 the intelligence services to now in independent media, took my children to the international

00:11:18.000 spy museum, which is, you know, just a few blocks away here for the first time ever, this,

00:11:22.760 this new one they constructed.

00:11:24.380 And I said, and I think I said, wow, they should really call this place the constructed reality

00:11:30.360 museum, because that's what it is.

00:11:32.400 It's, it's a museum, not about the intelligence community.

00:11:35.540 It's actually a museum created by the intelligence community to give you a vision of a constructed

00:11:42.760 reality that has some resemblance to reality, but everything's just slightly off.

00:11:49.300 And what do I mean by this?

00:11:50.400 I mean, this is the cover story.

00:11:52.760 This is the false reality that you would get if you read the pages of the Washington Post

00:11:58.620 or the New York Times, or if you're watching CNN and listening to NPR, this is the reality

00:12:04.480 where, of course, Russia hacked the election, where COVID-19 was a natural origin virus that

00:12:12.620 came from a, apparently a bat making out with a pangolin and ending up in some soup in a wet 0.56

00:12:18.300 market.

00:12:19.020 And, and if you say anything that's beyond Hunter Biden's laptop, again, Russian disinformation,

00:12:23.900 all of these things, which we know, and all of us have learned are completely true.

00:12:28.420 And everyone knows the list.

00:12:29.520 I could go on and on about these things.

00:12:31.520 But when you walk into that constructed reality museum, you, you realize the amount of money

00:12:38.860 and the amount of force and the amount of huge dollar bank accounts that are put into

00:12:47.280 maintaining this illusion of a false reality, recruiting people who are willing to go along with

00:12:53.240 the false reality as you encountered in mainstream media, because they don't actually push beyond

00:12:58.420 the boundaries of that accepted, that accepted narrative, whatever the consensus bias is.

00:13:06.260 Climate change was another example of this for a long time.

00:13:08.240 You notice they don't even talk about that one anymore.

00:13:10.420 And so having been in the military and then serving in places, Guantanamo Bay, for example,

00:13:15.320 was a place that was completely lied about in the media.

00:13:18.380 And I guarantee you, every single person in this room, with the probable exception of Tim

00:13:23.820 Ballard, who just walked in, because that's a guy who knows the truth, you have a vision

00:13:27.780 in your mind of and a picture of these places that exists because the media painted it for

00:13:33.620 you, or Hollywood painted it for you, or it was an accepted narrative, a constructed reality

00:13:39.360 that was implanted in your mind.

00:13:41.060 And what did we see most recently?

00:13:42.720 Deannai Gabbard and Joe Kent was just here.

00:13:45.100 So she was in the White House yesterday, and for the first time ever, we've seen someone

00:13:49.680 actually totally shatter that veil from a position of power like she's done. 0.66

00:13:54.000 This has never happened before in the history of the United States, where the director of

00:13:58.040 national intelligence has come out and for the first time told the truth about what actually

00:14:04.620 happened, that in this instance, Russiagate was a domestic intelligence operation that was

00:14:10.640 run on the American people and their president in conjunction with the entire mainstream media.

00:14:18.420 And that's something that, of course, the media is doing everything they can to silence

00:14:23.480 because it's an indictment on their entire process.

00:14:27.220 Excellent.

00:14:27.580 Excellent.

00:14:28.240 It's very hard for folks in the military, for folks in the military and the media to give

00:14:32.620 up the microphone.

00:14:33.640 I appreciate how you guys are passing it back and forth.

00:14:35.460 Congressman Crane, also, give him a round of applause.

00:14:41.480 Serve in the United States military.

00:14:42.460 Several combat deployments as a Navy SEAL.

00:14:46.380 And speaking of deployments and speaking of the military, we know Intel drives maneuver.

00:14:50.000 You're setting a position right now with our government where you get to see things, you

00:14:53.060 get to hear things.

00:14:54.340 We are doing this pivot to China thing that's going to be happening here pretty soon.

00:14:58.340 But while that's happening, what message do you have to the alternative media to not take

00:15:04.840 their eyes off of any certain direction and be only focused on China?

00:15:09.700 What else is happening out there that people need to make sure they don't forget about?

00:15:13.980 Yeah, thank you for that question.

00:15:16.340 I realize many of my friends and allies in the room are very focused on China and they have

00:15:22.740 very good reasons to do that.

00:15:24.440 But they are definitely a threat to the United States and Jack and Laura can go into great

00:15:30.000 detail on some of the reasons why.

00:15:33.600 And I agree with them.

00:15:34.740 They are a definite threat to the United States.

00:15:38.560 But one thing that I will say to anybody, everybody in this room is don't take your eyes 0.93

00:15:44.240 off of radical Islamists.

00:15:46.560 OK, I've studied their theology.

00:15:49.080 I've studied their eschatology.

00:15:50.600 And I think they often get underrated for a few reasons.

00:15:54.820 One of them is when we look at threats around the world, we can look at nation states.

00:15:59.380 We look at their economies.

00:16:00.600 We look at their resources.

00:16:02.280 And we also look at their weaponry and their military capabilities.

00:16:06.780 And that's an area where I think they often get overlooked because they don't rank high when

00:16:12.140 it comes to a couple of those things, you know, and when you study their when you study their

00:16:18.380 theology, you know, and, you know, some of these young kids are being taught that if they

00:16:23.220 are killed in the line of jihad, they'll go to heaven and get 70 virgins. 0.99

00:16:28.500 You know, that's really dangerous.

00:16:30.760 And when you compare it to some of the other nation states that we often rank high on that

00:16:34.900 list, they're not fighting for the same reasons.

00:16:38.040 They're not fighting because they believe that, you know, it's divine and that God will

00:16:43.020 bless them, you know, for fighting infidels and, you know, toppling the West. 1.00

00:16:49.560 So I think that it's important that we do not take our eyes off of radical Islam. 0.98

00:16:55.860 And when you when you when you look at that list, you're saying some don't rank as high

00:16:59.820 as others.

00:17:00.560 Where are we on the top of that list that people should make sure they don't take their

00:17:04.140 eye off?

00:17:04.580 Which which country, which group, which organization?

00:17:06.820 Which terrorist cell?

00:17:08.500 Where at?

00:17:09.400 Well, I think that if if if you look at it and you you right now, one of the reasons

00:17:14.580 that another reason that they're often, I would say, underestimated is because they're

00:17:21.040 spread out all over the place.

00:17:22.400 Right.

00:17:22.640 If you look at the Middle East, there's a lot of infighting.

00:17:25.580 But if you look at what they want to do and reestablish a caliphate, which I I do believe 1.00

00:17:31.220 in the future will happen, you know, it's that's why I said radical Islam and jihadists, 1.00

00:17:38.440 because they I do believe at some point they will be able to reunite, get past all of their

00:17:43.880 differences.

00:17:44.340 I could make a biblical case for it as well.

00:17:48.100 But that this is one of the this is one of the dangers I see is that I think is as we

00:17:54.000 pivot.

00:17:54.340 And again, I understand the reasons why.

00:17:56.500 But I think that, you know, there's going to be a focus taking off of radical Islam.

00:18:01.500 And I think one of the other dangers to it is that the United States of America, because

00:18:07.560 our military is so strong, our military is built to take on nation states, not necessarily

00:18:14.200 necessarily fight insurgencies.

00:18:17.200 And so I think it's one of the reasons that radical Marxism, communism and socialism have

00:18:22.520 been so effective and so destructive here in the United States, because this isn't what

00:18:27.540 you know, our Department of Defense is built to do.

00:18:29.880 Right. And that's one of the reasons I think that radical Islam, it will be such a big 1.00

00:18:35.320 threat in the years to come.

00:18:38.080 Outstanding. Thank you.

00:18:39.780 Please add to it.

00:18:40.940 I just I want to put that in the context of the media.

00:18:43.380 So I said the shift started in 2016.

00:18:45.960 I should really have said that the shift became apparent in 2016, because if you actually look

00:18:52.260 at Congressman Crane is 100 percent correct.

00:18:55.440 But if you look at the playbook of radical Islamists, first of all, it's identical to 0.77

00:19:01.060 the Marxist playbook in many respects.

00:19:03.320 Unrestricted warfare is unrestricted warfare, which whether it's done by the Chinese or what 1.00

00:19:08.740 we call radical Islamists.

00:19:10.620 But radical Islam is a term that is in itself created to deceive, because having studied the

00:19:16.640 the Koran, you will know that it's not actually radical to fight for the restoration of the

00:19:24.940 Ummah, which is the Islamic people and the Sharia throughout the world. 0.97

00:19:28.920 In fact, it's as mainstream as Islam gets to believe in that as the established.

00:19:33.800 So it's not a radical idea.

00:19:36.120 It might be groups that use radical tactics, but we're the ones who gave it that name.

00:19:40.760 And that's where the role of the media comes in.

00:19:43.040 And if you actually look at the term Islamophobia, you cannot date that term prior to the Obama

00:19:48.500 administration.

00:19:49.340 It didn't exist.

00:19:50.660 It wasn't a concept.

00:19:52.300 So this is why history for journalists matters.

00:19:54.860 So what happens with the rise of independent media is you get a lot of people that can grab

00:19:58.960 a microphone and can grow an audience.

00:20:01.400 And if they make a deal with a social media company, they can get a big audience pretty

00:20:05.800 quickly.

00:20:06.420 They can come out of nowhere.

00:20:07.800 I don't know.

00:20:08.200 They can come out of the CIA like Sean Ryan and they can be very popular very quickly

00:20:12.560 and they can stay there as long as somebody else decides to keep them there.

00:20:16.720 But what is actually, what is it they're not doing?

00:20:19.260 What are they not?

00:20:20.400 We are students.

00:20:21.720 Journalists are students, not experts.

00:20:23.820 Any journalist presented to you as an expert is already lying to you because we're not experts.

00:20:28.660 I can do a series for five years.

00:20:30.740 I can cover nuclear energy and I will never have the knowledge of a nuclear scientist who's

00:20:35.380 truly an expert.

00:20:36.220 So what we are supposed to be is students of history, students of culture, students of

00:20:41.840 modern popular governments and who are the players of the time.

00:20:45.860 We literally are students of everything.

00:20:47.960 But journalists have stopped being that.

00:20:49.720 Number one, daily news and immediate deadlines are the death of that kind of level of knowledge

00:20:54.100 and investigation.

00:20:55.200 But they're necessary.

00:20:56.360 So it's important for journalists really to be able to transition beyond those things,

00:21:02.240 right?

00:21:02.420 You can be a daily news journalist for a while and really get hard news skills or work for

00:21:06.860 a news agency and have that instant hard news nose.

00:21:10.360 But what you're supposed to build over time is context and knowledge.

00:21:13.800 And that is supposed to be merged with principles.

00:21:17.180 But what we have is journalists who are not curious.

00:21:19.420 The reason you don't know the stories that Jack's telling you about is because our media lies

00:21:25.120 by omission.

00:21:26.260 So it's not just what they print that's not true.

00:21:29.260 It's what they don't tell you.

00:21:31.020 You get slices of the truth because the best propaganda is built on kernels of truth.

00:21:37.440 When you make something up, it's very hard to keep it there.

00:21:39.940 Because what happens, it's a lie that has no legs and it keeps collapsing on itself.

00:21:44.480 And you keep having to tell more lies.

00:21:46.020 And as you do that, you create what?

00:21:48.020 You create a trail of guilt, which is exactly where we are with Chelsea Gabbard today, right?

00:21:53.440 With what she's revealing.

00:21:54.740 Because the lie of Russia collusion had constantly propped up.

00:21:58.340 And now that's crumbling.

00:21:59.980 And there's an evidence trail to that cover up.

00:22:02.540 But what we as journalists don't do is we're not curious about where does Islamophobia come

00:22:07.560 from?

00:22:08.200 Who created that term?

00:22:09.460 Well, there's an organization called DC Leaks, which is like WikiLeaks.

00:22:13.520 You can't find this on the internet anymore, even in the Wayback Machine.

00:22:17.100 There are people who can find it, but they're beyond my reach.

00:22:21.200 But what did they leak?

00:22:22.600 The playbook.

00:22:23.640 When the Open Society Foundations created the playbook for the creation of the term Islamophobia.

00:22:30.160 Exactly how they would define it, how they would proliferate it, what they would do to

00:22:35.180 people who didn't adhere to it.

00:22:36.840 So they created this what?

00:22:38.580 As a cover.

00:22:39.460 Because after 9-11 Americans were focused on the threat of Islamic conquest, not the

00:22:45.340 threat of the average Muslim person who, you know, I'm not going to play that game. 1.00

00:22:49.920 I'm not going to fall into that trap of information warfare that's created that if you if you talk

00:22:54.460 about the Islamic conquest of our society, you're now a prejudiced against the average Muslim

00:23:00.640 person. 0.99

00:23:01.020 It's nonsense.

00:23:02.020 I've lived for many years, five years in Iraq, years in Afghanistan.

00:23:05.460 Don't tell me about Islamophobia.

00:23:06.900 I don't care about that.

00:23:08.640 What I what I want to show you is that this is a made up term that is a tool of control

00:23:13.840 and intimidation.

00:23:15.160 And it has operated as a cover while the Islamic conquest has moved not just across Africa, 0.88

00:23:22.320 Nigeria, Congo, Ethiopia, across the Sohail villages that we're now supposed to believe 0.83

00:23:27.720 were always Muslim, that where the Africans themselves are like, where the hell did this 1.00

00:23:31.940 come from? 0.99

00:23:32.620 This is not our history.

00:23:33.820 We don't wear a bias here, but but we don't we're so uncurious as media about the origins

00:23:39.440 of everything.

00:23:40.220 We ignore it and it's burned all its way across Europe and it's right at our front door.

00:23:44.760 It's in Canada.

00:23:45.500 It's beyond that border.

00:23:46.520 It's all over.

00:23:47.700 And it's no it's the same tactics.

00:23:50.420 It's the same playbook, except that Islam is not a religion. 1.00

00:23:54.740 We allow it to have the First Amendment protection because we don't know anything about Islam.

00:24:00.060 And it's actually I learned this from jihadis themselves at the Finsbury Mosque in London,

00:24:06.220 which is one of the main command and control centers for the conquest of the UK and Europe.

00:24:10.240 And those guys laughed at me when I said Islam is a religion.

00:24:13.200 They said it's not.

00:24:13.960 It's a civilization.

00:24:15.320 And when you understand that, you understand that two civilizations cannot coexist, especially

00:24:20.480 one under which the implementation of Sharia is the only foundation for it to be legitimate 0.99

00:24:27.120 in the eyes of Allah.

00:24:28.120 So you cannot have the Constitution of the United States of America and Sharia law coexist. 0.99

00:24:35.240 There's one law of the land.

00:24:37.380 And if you don't uphold that, if you're you're intimidated into silence and manipulated by a

00:24:43.420 compliant media that are both incurious and dishonest, profoundly dishonest, and then a

00:24:49.980 weapon to punish people who speak up.

00:24:52.920 That's what we allow our media to be.

00:24:54.580 So if you still in this room are sitting here and you reference everything through the New

00:24:59.200 York Times or the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal, you're part of the problem.

00:25:04.540 Well, follow up question for Laura, just real quick.

00:25:06.760 Give her a round of applause.

00:25:07.540 Excellent.

00:25:07.780 You spoke about the time and how much time you have spent overseas in foreign countries.

00:25:15.400 OK, the Middle East. 0.72

00:25:17.160 How much time have you spent in the Middle East?

00:25:20.740 And when we talk about media, what was the propaganda you saw that was for them against

00:25:27.180 us and how does it compare to some of the things you're seeing in the United States now?

00:25:32.080 I think, Boone, for me, it's more about understanding that the obligations that Islamic people feel

00:25:39.780 they live under if they are faithful to the teachings.

00:25:44.800 There's first of all, there's the teaching.

00:25:46.580 There's what comes from Allah, what comes from God.

00:25:49.160 But then there's what comes from the Prophet Muhammad and how he interpreted those things.

00:25:54.020 So many of the things today that are completely against American culture and principles and

00:26:00.140 ideas come from the interpretations from the Prophet Muhammad, which come from a man, which

00:26:04.900 is, for example, they believe that every human being on earth has Islamic DNA, that we are

00:26:10.920 born Muslim and we don't convert to Islam.

00:26:14.700 We revert to our original and that's why the Christians are such an affront to Islam, because 1.00

00:26:21.440 we turned away who are the people of the book, the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims, right?

00:26:27.020 So when ISIS rages across Mosul and ancient Mesopotamia, now northern Iraq, and they give Christians 1.00

00:26:35.400 the opportunity to revert, right, and play the Jazeera, but the Yazidis and the Kurds, you know,

00:26:41.720 they are enslaved, right?

00:26:44.600 Because actually Muhammad believed that Jesus was a slave, in fact, was his slave.

00:26:49.280 Jesus was his slave.

00:26:51.100 And so it's understanding that that ideology puts an obligation.

00:26:55.480 So when I was with Afghan commanders during the war with the Taliban, and I lived alone

00:27:00.220 on the front line as a woman, and at the time when the Taliban controlled 95% of the country,

00:27:06.060 and there were many commanders that I would meet with regularly, because I would go everywhere

00:27:11.100 with Afghan soldiers, and one of the, every day they would beg me, can the United States

00:27:15.460 please help us, please, begging, sometimes tears rolling down their cheeks, all the stories

00:27:20.660 of torture.

00:27:21.240 I mean, the people around me, they hadn't been able to go to Kabul to see their families for

00:27:25.480 eight years, eight years.

00:27:27.240 And so when Kabul finally fell, and by the way, there was not an American invasion, America

00:27:32.640 provided the planes and the intelligence and the support from clandestine warriors and special

00:27:37.280 operations, but the Afghans did the fighting, and they don't consider it an invasion.

00:27:41.440 Why does that matter?

00:27:42.320 Because the media still talks about the invasion of Afghanistan, even though it's not actually

00:27:46.700 accurate.

00:27:47.360 But when it finally happened, and the US helped the Afghans defeat their enemies, I said, you

00:27:52.520 know, America's already talking about war in Iraq, and going against Saddam Hussein, now

00:27:58.400 that you, they've helped you, and this is, I'm standing in front of a container where these

00:28:02.900 Taliban had kept these guys prisoner, and we liberated the container, and these people

00:28:09.180 were emaciated and dying, there were tears, I mean, they were reunited with their brethren,

00:28:13.980 they were saved.

00:28:15.060 This was a very emotional moment, and from the bottom of their heart, they're thanking America.

00:28:19.600 So I said, okay, well, would you consider going to help America, since America helped you

00:28:26.240 defeat your enemy, can you help America defeat its enemy in Iraq?

00:28:30.240 And I knew the answer, but I wanted it on camera.

00:28:33.180 They said, no, we can't do that.

00:28:34.880 I said, but why not?

00:28:36.440 They said, well, because Saddam is Muslim. 0.91

00:28:39.320 So, and under the Quran, you cannot, as a Muslim, assist a non-Muslim in defeating someone 0.97

00:28:46.900 who is one of your own.

00:28:48.100 So it's not, you know, if you really want to talk, the serious propaganda is the propaganda 0.97

00:28:53.980 that teaches that Jewish people are worthless, that they're not human. 0.96

00:28:57.860 That's the real propaganda. 1.00

00:28:59.220 It reminds me of Iraq.

00:29:00.640 When, you know, we go into Iraq, Muqtada al-Assad, he becomes proliferated, this is Kirk, 0.66

00:29:05.760 and Saddam killed Muqtada's father.

00:29:09.020 We capture Saddam, he gets hung, and Muqtada hates us.

00:29:12.860 We just avenged your father, and you still hate us.

00:29:16.880 Yeah, but we, he's a product of Iran.

00:29:19.600 Absolutely so.

00:29:20.240 And we did what Iran wanted.

00:29:22.140 We got rid of the enemy that they couldn't get rid of themselves.

00:29:24.460 They lost a million people from 1980 to 88.

00:29:26.860 Oh, this conversation could go on a long time.

00:29:29.100 But we got to keep going.

00:29:30.080 Over to Jack.

00:29:31.100 Give her a round of applause.

00:29:32.040 If you ever get that chance.

00:29:35.660 And watch Going Rogue with Laura Logan.

00:29:37.920 It's a great show.

00:29:38.800 You get a lot more of this kind of stuff, and just very, very exquisite.

00:29:42.160 Jack, General Flynn always talks about digital soldiers.

00:29:46.640 Digital soldiers.

00:29:47.740 A lot of that is your audience.

00:29:50.400 What is the next leg?

00:29:52.260 What is the next thing that these digital soldiers, where should they be looking to turn?

00:29:57.560 What should they be looking to do in this future, where legacy media is dying out, digital soldiers,

00:30:04.640 alternative media is rising?

00:30:06.280 What does the future look like for our digital soldiers?

00:30:08.840 That's a great question.

00:30:10.300 And thanks so much to Laura for your testimony just there.

00:30:12.960 But the question, the issue with anyone who's involved in the online freedom movement, the

00:30:20.020 online patriot movements, and this goes for anywhere in the world, is not just the United

00:30:25.420 States, but anywhere in the West where they're fighting this.

00:30:27.560 Obviously, in the EU, there's so many issues with censorship there.

00:30:31.100 So censorship has, by and large, failed due to the success of Donald Trump and the ability

00:30:38.860 to move quicker with our systems and our distribution networks than ever.

00:30:44.000 And a huge shout out, of course, to Elon Musk, because him purchasing X when he did with $44

00:30:50.720 billion of his own money provided that platform for truth to be able to be received.

00:30:57.180 And I remember always saying, even having been a formerly anonymous user and on of Twitter

00:31:04.200 myself, that we've never asked for any special favors.

00:31:07.860 We just want a level playing field where then as he's digging under the hood of how Twitter

00:31:14.560 was set up before in the code, you would find that certain keywords and certain key phrases

00:31:19.740 would get you downlisted, would get you shadowbanned, which is completely real.

00:31:23.840 That's another one of those conspiracy theories we were told about, or one of those things

00:31:27.420 we were told was a conspiracy theory that became true in all.

00:31:30.800 And if you accumulated too many of these words or the volume of the words in a certain period

00:31:36.580 of time, well, then your tweets, your posts would not be seen by anyone.

00:31:40.440 So they wouldn't take you down.

00:31:41.760 You wouldn't even know that you were screaming into the void, but they would have done that

00:31:45.640 to you.

00:31:46.160 So they realized that hasn't worked because Elon has tripped that off and I applaud him

00:31:50.120 for it.

00:31:50.420 I absolutely do.

00:31:51.360 So the next threat is this.

00:31:53.720 We are going to run into a threat of over information.

00:31:57.180 And what do I mean by over information?

00:31:59.140 I mean, if you can't censor information, then what's the best way to combat that?

00:32:03.880 Malinformation, fake information. 0.93

00:32:05.620 And the large majority of this is going to come about because of AI.

00:32:09.440 So you will see AI generated, and I see it all day, I see it every single day, where

00:32:15.100 there are not only AI generated posts and comments and sentiments, but entire AI generated

00:32:22.500 bot networks, where the old bot networks that used to be paid by the likes of Media Matters

00:32:28.260 and David Brock and American Bridge and all these different organizations, they used to

00:32:31.940 be very clumsy and very, very clunky and very obvious when you were when you were dealing

00:32:36.240 with a bot network, because they all talk the same, they all sounded the same.

00:32:39.980 Now what they're doing is people will go out and purchase batch accounts, aged accounts.

00:32:44.820 So usually you could look to one of the easiest checks on a fake account would be to say, okay,

00:32:48.920 well, this account was created five days ago or one week ago.

00:32:52.540 So it's, you know, it's probably not real.

00:32:54.280 What they'll do now is because the internet and social media have been around for a decade

00:32:58.040 plus Facebook is a decade this year, I think.

00:33:00.180 And so they'll buy an aged account of someone who is a former user, and that the account

00:33:06.540 is sitting out there, and there's a whole black market for these.

00:33:09.540 So bad actors, intelligence agents, terrorist networks, whoever you want, will go out and

00:33:14.360 purchase these things.

00:33:15.300 They're not just political, they can use it for anything.

00:33:17.260 I just know more from the political side and the news side, they'll purchase these networks,

00:33:21.480 then you can flash change all of them to make it look like a certain audience.

00:33:26.020 So I could say, I want these people to look like liberals, I want these people to look

00:33:30.620 like conservatives, I want them to look like Trump supporters, veterans, take your pick,

00:33:35.080 and or perhaps some underserved group in the Middle East, and suddenly we're going to make

00:33:39.600 it look like they flooded Twitter to put out some message that then if you're just using

00:33:45.280 Twitter like myself, or you're sitting member of Congress, or you're in the Senate, you're

00:33:49.940 scrolling Twitter, you're saying, oh my gosh, look at all these people, I've got to react.

00:33:53.600 Those people don't even exist.

00:33:56.020 Those people exist at the push of a button, and now using chat GPT, or sometimes even

00:34:00.940 Brock natively, you can generate responses, conversations with people who don't actually

00:34:07.880 exist in reality.

00:34:09.580 And I see this becoming a major threat, because if you are someone, let's say you're someone

00:34:13.180 who's an independent media, or let's say, you know, for somehow that there's an actual

00:34:18.480 truthful, truth-seeking journalist who's out there, wants to be an honest journalist, you're

00:34:23.040 going out trying to understand sentiment in the world, and yet you have no idea how to

00:34:28.100 tell whether or not someone is real, or the person that you're interacting with, a complete

00:34:33.320 phantom that only exists as a deus ex machina creation of the system.

00:34:39.740 And I really see that being a huge threat going forward.

00:34:41.580 What you're saying is the whole thing might just be the matrix.

00:34:45.800 They're creating the matrix before our eyes.

00:34:47.640 And on that note, ladies and gentlemen, give a round of applause to the entire panel.

00:34:51.580 Fantastic job.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 26, 2025

The Power of Alternative Media

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