Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The Secret History of the US Military in the Ukraine War

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00:02:12.500 Today is March 31st, 2025.

00:02:16.560 Anno Domini.

00:02:17.580 Folks, we've got to look at this massive story.

00:02:20.820 The New York Times has admitted it.

00:02:23.240 And we really have to question why this story is coming out.

00:02:26.080 It's the secret history of the U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war.

00:02:30.940 And, in fact, it's worse.

00:02:34.300 It's even worse than we could have possibly predicted.

00:02:39.180 Because, you see, here's what's going on.

00:02:41.880 Well, we were told all along, unprovoked war, unprovoked war, unprovoked war.

00:02:48.120 But as it turns out, the U.S. military has not only been involved prior to the Ukraine war, but even during the Ukraine war.

00:02:57.900 And there's this huge piece out now in the New York Times.

00:03:01.200 This is actually a huge, it's kind of a CYA piece.

00:03:04.760 Because the big piece of this is that this war is coming to an end.

00:03:11.500 It did not go the way that the globalists wanted.

00:03:14.540 It did not go the way that the neoliberals wanted.

00:03:18.180 Russia looks like they're going to be getting these provinces.

00:03:20.540 And so, all of the things that were said at the beginning were lies, as were called out by us here on Human Events Daily to the posse and others.

00:03:29.640 And so, this is pre-shaping the legacy of the Ukraine war to say, oh, it wasn't our fault.

00:03:36.100 See, we tried to help.

00:03:37.340 But it was Zelensky's fault.

00:03:38.660 It was Illusioni's fault.

00:03:40.080 The Ukrainians' fault. 1.00

00:03:41.020 They just didn't listen.

00:03:42.280 They didn't take our advice.

00:03:43.480 So, what's come out in the New York Times today, this massive story, I don't even know, 10,000 words, 10,000 word story about how the U.S. military, the U.S. intelligence services, and the U.S. government have been directing the Ukraine war from the very start, supplying the coordinates of Russian forces on Russian soil from a U.S. base in Wiesbaden, Germany.

00:04:04.840 So, a U.S. base in Germany, that means U.S. generals, U.S. soldiers, U.S. officials, U.S. officers were giving the targets to the Ukrainians on Russian soil, and then the Russians were the ones who were the recipient of the strikes.

00:04:21.560 That's way more than the material support that we knew that was publicly going on, but it's exactly what we told you.

00:04:28.000 In fact, there's even one point where they talk about how General Milley was specifically involved in planning operations for the Ukrainian military, but that, of course, it was just advising.

00:04:39.040 What do we even find out?

00:04:40.300 That, yes, of course, there were U.S. troops on the ground in Ukraine the entire time.

00:04:49.120 U.S. troops are on the ground in Kiev as well as in forward positions.

00:04:54.240 That's why this thing has gone so far.

00:04:56.740 That's why I've been hearing about all of this, and that's why the negotiations currently are between the United States, Russia, and Ukraine, because the U.S. role in this is larger than anyone has officially confirmed up until this point.

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00:07:20.800 I want to bring in now Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer to break down what's been going on here in this New York Times story.

00:07:27.940 Tony, when I look at this story, you know, it's so long, at least 10,000 words going through all of this.

00:07:35.800 The U.S. military and the U.S. government were, in fact, directly involved every single step of the way.

00:07:42.540 They were running this war hand-in-hand with the Ukrainians. 0.74

00:07:47.540 What does it mean that this story is coming out?

00:07:50.140 And it's interesting, by the way, how even though they put it out, the mainstream media is totally ignoring it.

00:07:54.280 Yeah, ignoring it is because people like you and me and some of the folks over at my network have said this is the fact that the United States has been engaged in this proxy war for years.

00:08:11.540 And they don't like the fact that, I don't know, I don't think we're alternative media.

00:08:15.440 We are the media now.

00:08:16.700 They don't like the fact that the mainstream media got it all wrong because they were taking talking points, not actually seeking facts.

00:08:23.360 And so the fact findings ended, and they don't want to be hit in the face with the facts, Jack.

00:08:30.140 And the fact is, we, the United States, engaged both in the revolution, the Maidan revolution in 2014.

00:08:37.780 Victoria Nuland and USAID, which is now deceased, with CIA, funded all of that, all those shenanigans.

00:08:45.780 And so what has happened now, and I think this is why they're publishing it, Donald Trump is going to shut it all down, one way or another.

00:08:54.300 Marco Rubio confirmed about three weeks ago, this is a quote-unquote proxy war with Russia.

00:09:00.320 It is.

00:09:01.140 And last time I checked, we weren't asked about this.

00:09:03.440 We, the American people, weren't asked, do we want to go back to war with Russia?

00:09:06.520 So ask yourself, Jack, who would have pushed for us to be the world policemen and engaged in this?

00:09:15.340 Well, it's the World Economic Forum, it's Soros and the Europeans. 0.90

00:09:19.520 They wanted Ukraine, for their own purposes, to be part of the EU utopian, whatever you want to call whatever they're doing right now,

00:09:27.560 with suppressing democracy and trying to get people to not talk about certain things.

00:09:32.580 They wanted Ukraine to become part of the EU.

00:09:35.940 That's what this is all about.

00:09:37.620 And that means the resources, gas and oil and everything else becomes part of the EU.

00:09:41.840 And they wanted to dismantle Russia.

00:09:43.860 So we didn't get to vote on it.

00:09:45.360 We, the United States and the American people, didn't vote on it.

00:09:48.080 This was all about the progressive left, the other Democrats, using our military and our intelligence community

00:09:55.160 as an extension of their policies which support the World Economic Forum and the EU.

00:10:01.180 So that's why we're here.

00:10:03.040 Right now, they're about to be found out behind the curtain.

00:10:07.740 And President Trump, I think, is going to make it abundantly clear who caused all of this.

00:10:13.240 Well, that's really what it comes down to.

00:10:15.000 And we're talking about the pre-shaped, this is a pre-shaped narrative.

00:10:18.400 So the narrative that you get through all of this is the U.S. was there.

00:10:21.620 The intel community was there.

00:10:23.220 We did what we had to do.

00:10:24.800 We helped them every step of the way.

00:10:26.320 But they just wouldn't listen.

00:10:27.500 And, by the way, what's really interesting, Tony, and I know you'll appreciate this,

00:10:31.580 because you and I talked about this in real time two years ago in 2023, going into that summer counteroffensive.

00:10:40.520 Bakhmut, we said this is a bad idea.

00:10:42.660 This isn't going to go well.

00:10:44.100 Apparently, in real time, we were calling this while the rest of the media said,

00:10:47.960 oh, this is great, this is genius.

00:10:49.660 And apparently, there was a huge breakdown where even General Milley was telling the Ukrainians,

00:10:55.420 yeah, guys, don't do this.

00:10:56.620 The Russians are dug in over in these positions.

00:10:58.780 This is a really bad move.

00:11:01.940 It's actually kind of funny, because it says that they hung up on General Milley on the call,

00:11:07.040 and then he kept trying to call them back, and they wouldn't answer.

00:11:10.220 Well, you know, Mark is, I think, is, by the way, just on a personal note, you and I were in the military.

00:11:18.820 There's no senior officer I know that looks better in high heels than Mark Milley.

00:11:24.500 Oh, no.

00:11:26.300 He's the best.

00:11:27.040 He's the best.

00:11:27.600 Anyway, but I digress.

00:11:29.540 But, no, look, I know Mark Milley.

00:11:32.640 I know Lloyd Austin.

00:11:33.860 You could not pick two more incompetent people, and then you add Tony Blinken.

00:11:40.480 You know, his college nickname was Spanky Banana.

00:11:43.480 Did you know that?

00:11:44.000 Because he was in a band.

00:11:44.980 Just, it could be true.

00:11:46.440 I don't know if that's true, but it could be.

00:11:47.880 Anyway, and then, of course, Jake Sullivan.

00:11:51.140 These people could not lead a high school debating team,

00:11:55.720 let alone trying to use the resources of the greatest republic on the planet.

00:12:01.380 There's no, this was doomed from day one.

00:12:04.800 And, Jack, you and I suffered the barbs and arrows,

00:12:07.620 the outrageous barbs and arrows of fortune to be right about this ahead of time,

00:12:12.460 way ahead of time, and people didn't like it.

00:12:14.440 So, it is what it is.

00:12:15.500 We're right.

00:12:16.080 They're wrong.

00:12:16.900 End of story.

00:12:18.420 I have a good buddy of mine.

00:12:20.360 He likes to say sometimes that it's better to be right late than wrong early

00:12:24.740 because, you know, when you're right early, everybody comes down at you,

00:12:29.860 you know, comes hard to me, and that's what they did.

00:12:31.500 But, look, you know, say we got a Cassandra complex or whatever it is.

00:12:34.640 Look, I'm going to call it like it is.

00:12:36.800 And, you know, if people want to deny reality, they can try for as much as they can.

00:12:40.700 But reality is reality.

00:12:42.880 And the U.S. has been far more involved in the Ukraine war than anyone has ever let on.

00:12:48.960 Now it's starting to publicly come out.

00:12:50.800 And there are, by the way, these are, there are key targeting and, you know,

00:12:54.900 talking about not only, by the way, the attacks in the Black Sea,

00:12:58.040 so the sinking of the Moskva, this huge cruiser, coordinating drone swarms,

00:13:02.840 even the attacks in Russia itself providing those.

00:13:06.460 I mean, Tony, it's actually kind of a testament to the fact that Russia didn't 0.99

00:13:11.460 declare the U.S. to be a party to this war when clearly we were.

00:13:16.940 Yeah, they figured it out.

00:13:18.000 They knew.

00:13:18.660 And I think the restraint of Putin is notable.

00:13:20.720 And by the way, I think Putin's had to fight his own extreme pro-war guys to hold him back.

00:13:29.640 And let me be clear on this.

00:13:30.940 I have said on your show and other networks, Putin's a thug.

00:13:34.600 I have no love for Putin.

00:13:36.220 With that said, he is the leader of Russia, whether you like it or not.

00:13:41.280 And he has been, by all accounts now, especially with The New York Times admitting it,

00:13:47.220 at war with us.

00:13:48.160 The United States has been at war with him, whether he wanted to or not,

00:13:51.940 wanted to admit it or not.

00:13:53.820 And now we're forced to kind of come to terms with that.

00:13:56.520 And that's why President Trump is negotiating directly with the Russians.

00:14:00.460 This is going back to the 80s, back to Gorbachev and Reagan.

00:14:04.980 And it's the way it's going to have to be resolved.

00:14:06.820 And by the way, Zelensky is an actor, a bad one at that.

00:14:10.300 And I think he will not survive this transition from war to peace because he is so adamant.

00:14:17.280 He is such a puppet of the EU, of UK and NATO.

00:14:21.800 He will not.

00:14:22.740 That's why he's so far on their team trying to essentially do everything he can to stop the peace process from happening.

00:14:30.960 I think we're going to see a framework soon.

00:14:33.600 I don't think Zelensky makes it through to the end.

00:14:35.520 Wow. That's that's actually a big huge prediction there from Tony Schaefer.

00:14:42.000 But you know what? He's been right so far, folks.

00:14:44.600 Stay tuned. We'll come right back with more on this.

00:14:47.220 The secret history of the U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war.

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00:16:45.340 I want to get back here with Tony Schaefer.

00:16:47.740 So, Tony, this thing is winding down.

00:16:50.360 The whole deal is coming down.

00:16:52.340 But what's – so is that the reason?

00:16:55.160 We're pre-shaping the narrative.

00:16:56.840 Do you agree with my take there that that's what this New York Times piece – which, again, the sources of this are all intelligence officials, all generals on the U.S. side, some on the Ukraine side as well.

00:17:08.080 And I guess the real question that they're going to be asking is, who lost Ukraine?

00:17:13.780 Well, the Biden administration and the Obama administration.

00:17:18.620 It was never going to be won.

00:17:20.220 This was all about creating havoc and chaos, Jack.

00:17:23.000 And these aspirations they had to bring Ukraine into the EU was totally insane.

00:17:30.160 They had set off on a false set of assumptions, command assumptions, which were completely incorrect, not supported by facts.

00:17:39.620 And I don't know how they fail to recognize Russia doesn't give things up.

00:17:45.080 There's a book I read as a kid called The Russians by – I think it was Frederick Smith.

00:17:50.220 And the lesson – the key – and the book's about that thing.

00:17:53.880 And the key lesson is what – the Russians are very consistent.

00:17:58.320 What's ours is ours.

00:17:59.940 What's yours is negotiable.

00:18:01.080 And they will do whatever they can to hang on to what they have.

00:18:04.640 And this was the final point.

00:18:07.040 In 2009, Putin said, hey, no more NATO moving east.

00:18:13.460 It was very clear.

00:18:14.800 And yet, NATO kept coming.

00:18:17.020 So this whole thing was preventable as well as, I think, predicted by many.

00:18:26.740 So where does that leave us?

00:18:27.700 That leaves us with the special military operation.

00:18:30.700 The Russians are engaged at this very moment in about eight sectors of combat.

00:18:35.820 The four provinces, whatever you want to call them, the areas where they're engaged, plus Kursk.

00:18:45.440 And out of these eight, they're winning.

00:18:50.120 They've taken up about 80 percent of the oblasts that they're seeking, of the four.

00:18:55.160 And they're winning in Kursk about the same amount.

00:18:58.020 So they could – if they chose their mind to it, they could be done with this militarily within two months.

00:19:03.480 And that's – they're already planning for an offensive.

00:19:06.220 So if we do nothing more, which we don't plan to do, all the weapons that are on the way to Ukraine, whatever military personnel is still there, which I would predict at this point, very few, was all from the Obama administration.

00:19:19.440 The Trump folks have pulled out – they're going to continue to pull out.

00:19:22.700 So it's all on the fact that Obama and Biden set off on this completely insane mission.

00:19:31.000 And I said on your show, back when the invasion first started, the numbers were never there.

00:19:35.940 There is no way Russia would ever lose this based on the fact that they have more people and more material and more political will than Ukraine.

00:19:43.100 And here we are all these years later.

00:19:49.580 You know, it's – I would say it was crazy.

00:19:53.480 I would say it was awful if it wasn't typical.

00:19:56.600 Because this has become typical in Washington, D.C.

00:20:00.240 It's become typical for the course of things over the last 14, 15 years for those of us who have been paying attention.

00:20:06.080 Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, where can people go to follow you and get more access to everything that you're doing?

00:20:10.120 Yeah, ProjectSentinel.com as well as XTSpooky.

00:20:14.900 So, Jack, I always enjoy our conversations.

00:20:16.740 Thanks for having me.

00:20:17.580 And I'm glad we were right about all of this, despite the fallout.

00:20:23.580 All right.

00:20:24.460 There he is, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.

00:20:26.260 Follow him to find out what's going to be happening tomorrow and the next day and a year from then and even a year from then.

00:20:32.200 We'll be right back here at Human Events Daily as the day continues.

00:20:40.120 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:20:52.740 Where is Jack?

00:20:55.020 Where is he?

00:20:56.320 Jack, I want to see you.

00:20:59.960 Great job, Jack.

00:21:01.400 Thank you.

00:21:02.140 What a job you do.

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00:21:12.540 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:21:13.800 We are back live.

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00:23:05.580 Tanya Tay, by the way, loved the app, loved the website.

00:23:09.620 She was clicking through.

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00:23:12.980 You can find out what trees or various other plants, bushes, et cetera.

00:23:17.440 Something didn't make it through a storm.

00:23:18.760 Something didn't make it through the winter.

00:23:21.420 FastGrowingTrees.com will be.

00:23:23.500 It's just a great site.

00:23:24.540 I really like it.

00:23:25.820 By the way, for those asking, I don't know if you guys can see this.

00:23:29.040 Can we drop the lower third for a second?

00:23:30.620 Because I've got my J.D. Vance right there.

00:23:33.760 Got the J.D. Vance shirt on.

00:23:36.180 Got that up today.

00:23:37.380 So finally came in the mail.

00:23:39.400 So we have our J.D. Vance shirt up.

00:23:44.120 You guys can get that.

00:23:45.480 You go to the PostMillennial.com.

00:23:46.700 You can check that out as well.

00:23:48.240 But speaking of human events, I wanted to bring on the human events opinion editor himself,

00:23:53.320 Kenny Cody, here to the program.

00:23:55.020 What's up, Kenny?

00:23:56.160 Hey, Jack.

00:23:56.880 How are you doing, brother?

00:23:58.920 So, Kenny, this new piece you've got up called The Brutal Americans.

00:24:04.280 And this sort of, you're playing off of a piece that Ann Applebaum wrote in The Atlantic last week,

00:24:08.900 in the midst, by the way, of all, or a piece I would say that was going viral in the wake of SignalGate all last week,

00:24:15.860 when you were saying that brutal Americans, that this is a phrase, by the way,

00:24:21.080 not only that should we embrace, but we should embrace as a badge of honor.

00:24:26.740 And look, you've got President Trump coming out last night, saying that not only are the tariffs going tomorrow,

00:24:32.000 or I should say Wednesday, for a few select countries, it's going to be the entire world.

00:24:38.680 So frame it for me, brother.

00:24:40.220 Brutal Americans versus the world. 1.00

00:24:43.040 Yeah, I mean, I think that the left, the more they try to make us look evil,

00:24:47.040 and the more they try to make us look like we're these uncaring beings, the cooler they make us look.

00:24:51.520 I mean, I think that this attitude is exactly what people in America want the MAGA movement to be.

00:24:56.540 We want to be these fighters, these people that are going against cultural Marxism, progressivism,

00:25:02.000 and are going against this European view of the world.

00:25:05.020 You know, formerly under the Bush administration, under the Obama administration,

00:25:08.460 we were always these neocons, neoliberals that were kowtowing to a global government,

00:25:14.280 or kowtowing to a globalist movement.

00:25:17.380 And I think now that we have this America first concentration, 0.94

00:25:21.220 we're able to be brutal Americans because we're America first. 0.65

00:25:24.620 Europeans should view us as brutal, as tough negotiators, as people who think that we are the intimidators.

00:25:31.880 We are people that, you know, are going to dictate policy.

00:25:35.340 We're not going to be ran over by a foreign policy that's going to, you know,

00:25:38.420 go off the backs of American workers and crush on the backs of American workers. 0.94

00:25:41.820 We're going to put the American worker first, not corporations that are overseas,

00:25:45.220 not corporations that are in our own country trying to dictate our own economic policy.

00:25:49.320 But we're going to be putting the workers first.

00:25:51.840 And I think through these reciprocal tariffs, and I think for this, you know, trade war that we're seeing going on in America

00:25:57.660 and with foreign countries like Canada and Mexico and others,

00:26:00.620 I think you're finally seeing the right kind of policy that is putting American citizens before anything else. 0.69

00:26:07.260 And that's what brutal means to the Europeans. 0.56

00:26:09.380 You know, this – Ann Applebaum wrote this piece basically about her European travels.

00:26:13.700 Like we've changed a personality.

00:26:15.380 We used to be so caring and so charitable, and now we're not.

00:26:19.520 That's not it.

00:26:20.380 It's not that we're not being nice to these people.

00:26:21.860 We're just not going to be run over anymore.

00:26:23.280 We're not going to be kowtow to the EU.

00:26:25.920 We're not going to kowtow to the United Nations.

00:26:27.520 And we're certainly not going to kowtow to the presidents or prime ministers of countries

00:26:31.080 that could care less about us and give no benefit to us.

00:26:33.460 So all brutal American means is brutally honest and brutally reliant and loyal to the American people, 0.72

00:26:41.680 and we're going to fight these battles brutally.

00:26:46.760 And that really is it.

00:26:48.320 You know, it's – and it's going to – by the way, and some of that pain, I understand.

00:26:52.100 It's going to be through the economy, and there's going to – let's be clear.

00:26:55.640 Let's be clear.

00:26:56.720 This is going to be one of those things where you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

00:27:00.940 And I see the Daily Mail is coming out there.

00:27:03.820 Senator Rand Paul has come out, you know, in opposition to the tariffs.

00:27:07.540 A number of other people have come out against the tariffs on the MAGA side of the aisle.

00:27:11.860 And understand, okay, understand that we – and what President Trump is doing,

00:27:16.440 what we're talking about that we support through human events,

00:27:19.240 is this idea of restructuring the global order where, yes, it's not going to be GDP first.

00:27:25.200 It's actually going to be people first. 0.92

00:27:26.640 And the people that we're putting first are the American people and the American worker.

00:27:32.800 Kenny, you're writing right there in Appalachia.

00:27:35.400 Talk to me about how the global economy has devastated that area.

00:27:40.600 I mean, it 100 percent has.

00:27:42.600 I mean, factories and the working class is the backbone of Appalachia.

00:27:46.800 It's the backbone of Cock County, where I live.

00:27:48.300 It's the backbone of the First Congressional District of Tennessee.

00:27:50.380 We rely on workers, factory workers, those that are in trade, to have the backbone here.

00:27:56.920 And for far too long, these foreign countries that, you know, abused the imports, 0.99

00:28:01.080 the exports, have taken control and made these companies fail economically during the 2008 crisis.

00:28:06.360 And throughout the last 10 or 12 years, it's not the companies that are, you know,

00:28:10.500 reliant on American cities that are affected the most.

00:28:13.340 You know, American cities can recycle workers. 0.96

00:28:15.680 They can hire anybody.

00:28:16.760 They can say, if this person's not doing the work or if they're not happy with the work, they're getting paid.

00:28:20.340 We can bring in migrants.

00:28:21.380 We can bring in, you know, anybody else from the other cities.

00:28:24.120 We can, you know, drain from another city and have people come in from a mobility rate standpoint, come in and work.

00:28:30.000 In rural Appalachia, these jobs are what makes our economy.

00:28:34.780 They are what runs small towns.

00:28:37.180 And when you have countries and corporations overseas that are taking advantage of these small towns in America,

00:28:43.900 such as those in Appalachia and such as those in small towns in, you know, states like Ohio and Pennsylvania,

00:28:49.700 it can drain these communities.

00:28:51.160 It can drain these economies. 0.94

00:28:53.100 There not only are these people's pockets emptying.

00:28:55.980 These towns and these states and these regions are being depleted economically because we don't have the same opportunity

00:29:02.520 because we are kowtowing to foreign nations and to depleting these American workers for us.

00:29:07.640 Look, nobody's saying that these corporations that employ these American workers, we need to let them run roughshod over us. 0.99

00:29:13.200 But we need to be prioritizing employing Americans, employing those from the region that build the backbone

00:29:19.500 and build the back that these regions are based upon and allow that economy to thrive.

00:29:25.420 Because if we don't allow our local economies to thrive in these small towns like the one that I live in,

00:29:30.860 America itself is going to vanish.

00:29:32.900 And we have to be able to prioritize the people that literally elected this president.

00:29:37.360 The working class in this country are the ones that elected Donald Trump to two non-consecutive terms

00:29:43.160 and have ventilated change throughout congressional districts, throughout senate races, and legislative races throughout the country.

00:29:49.420 So we have to be able to put the American worker first, put the auto industry, those that work in the auto industry,

00:29:55.080 those who work in metal, steel, whatever else, and the working class put those workers first 0.99

00:29:59.940 before they put the corporations and foreign countries first.

00:30:02.140 And that's what these tariffs are going to be able to be doing and putting us first in trade negotiations.

00:30:08.960 And look, this is going to be a fight.

00:30:11.180 It's going to be a brutal fight, and it's going to take brutal Americans to do this.

00:30:15.060 You know, President Trump, he's also talking – people have said,

00:30:17.680 whoa, whoa, whoa, this means car prices are going up, this means –

00:30:20.600 and by the way, even American cars, because a lot of the auto parts are coming from overseas as well,

00:30:25.840 they're going to get hit by tariffs.

00:30:27.200 So you might see American cars go up, I think 2% was the number that I saw.

00:30:30.980 But President Trump has come out and says, guess what?

00:30:33.720 Your interest rates can be deductible if you buy an American car.

00:30:37.720 I love, by the way, when President Trump also said that, you know,

00:30:41.140 it's typically interest rates or something that – or deductibles or something that the rich usually has,

00:30:46.700 these write-offs, the idea that you can write off something that's something that, you know,

00:30:49.940 that the average working-class person doesn't usually deal with,

00:30:52.760 especially if they're not running their own company or have an S-Corp, an LLC or something like that.

00:30:56.700 And look, it's as simple as this.

00:30:59.020 It really is as simple as this.

00:31:00.580 The greatest generation, the silent generation, they didn't have three cars in their garage. 0.89

00:31:04.860 They had one car.

00:31:05.680 And they drove that car their whole lives.

00:31:07.480 And it worked.

00:31:08.400 They got it fixed.

00:31:09.320 They got it repaired.

00:31:10.360 It worked.

00:31:11.160 They didn't upgrade their TV at Costco every year.

00:31:13.500 They had one TV or one radio and then one TV, and it worked.

00:31:17.240 So is there going to be a pain?

00:31:18.420 You bet.

00:31:19.240 Is it going to be at the cost of your convenience?

00:31:21.440 At first.

00:31:22.460 But it has to hurt first if it's going to heal.

00:31:26.460 And that's what it's all about.

00:31:28.700 That's what it's about when it comes to actually reworking the global system.

00:31:32.780 And Secretary Besson came here on Human Events last week, and he said this.

00:31:36.660 The American dream is not about cheap baubles from overseas, is it, Kenny Cody?

00:31:43.440 No.

00:31:44.440 America is, you know, we always have this debate, right?

00:31:47.240 We're not just an economic tool.

00:31:49.160 We're not.

00:31:49.540 People are not tools for the economy or the GDP. 0.95

00:31:52.820 We are prioritizing American families, prioritizing the American working class, and the voters that

00:31:58.800 voted in this change before we're going to be kowtowing to foreign countries, corporations,

00:32:02.960 or anything else.

00:32:03.700 We are not an idea.

00:32:05.340 We are a nation and we are a people.

00:32:07.800 And those people come first before anything else.

00:32:10.260 And those people mandated this change back in November.

00:32:13.460 So we have to make sure that we are concentrating on prioritizing the right economic policy, the

00:32:18.480 right foreign policy, and the right negotiation tactics to come up with the best result and

00:32:23.940 the best outcome for those workers and their families and their children's futures and their

00:32:28.880 own futures.

00:32:29.480 We have to be able to prioritize that before we concentrate on any other economic, you know,

00:32:33.880 GDP scale or anything to brag on on MSNBC.

00:32:37.560 We need to be able to ensure that American workers are safe, their savings accounts are funded,

00:32:42.720 and their children can go to school, their children can be safe, stay alive, and ensure

00:32:47.860 that these families are facilitated throughout the next generation and create the next great

00:32:52.560 generation as those that came before them.

00:32:55.000 We are creating the next great generation.

00:33:01.080 I love that.

00:33:02.460 That is so perfect.

00:33:04.440 Kenny, I think you might have your next column right there, man.

00:33:09.940 Creating the next great generation.

00:33:13.580 That is the positive vision for the future that we're all about here at Human Events.

00:33:18.500 We'll be right back with more from Kenny Cody.

00:33:20.040 Jack is a great guy.

00:33:46.320 He's written a fantastic book.

00:33:48.060 Everybody's talking about it.

00:33:49.300 Go get it.

00:33:50.520 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:33:54.420 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.

00:33:57.620 Amen.

00:33:59.360 I just spoke with John Thune about.

00:34:02.480 I just spoke to Mike Johnson about, speaker.

00:34:06.060 We're going to do something that has never been done in this country before.

00:34:09.660 I'm very proud to say it was my idea.

00:34:11.380 And so sometimes a simple idea, they say, how did you think of that one?

00:34:15.160 It's so simple.

00:34:15.900 It was never done.

00:34:16.980 If you buy a car in the United States that's made in the United States, if it's manufactured here, when you borrow money, if you borrow money, you have interest payments.

00:34:26.320 We're going to let you deduct the interest payment for income tax reasons.

00:34:29.720 And I think that's going to more than pay for itself.

00:34:32.800 I think people are going to be they've never had a deduction.

00:34:36.200 You know, deductions are supposed to be for like rich people.

00:34:38.980 And it's unfair to have that.

00:34:41.060 But rich people are I think I know more about deductions than any human being on Earth.

00:34:46.600 But, you know, the truth is that people that are middle income people that buy a car and actually have to borrow money, they're going to now get an interest deduction on their car if it's made in the United States.

00:34:58.340 All right, Jack, we're back live here.

00:35:00.460 Human Events Daily.

00:35:01.480 Kenny Cody, we're on.

00:35:02.680 He's the new opinion editor at Human Events.

00:35:05.160 Hails from Appalachia.

00:35:06.160 Kenny, let me let's talk some more about that.

00:35:08.000 Let's actually tease this out, what you're talking about here.

00:35:10.600 President Trump isn't just remembering the greatest generation.

00:35:15.060 He's creating the next greatest generation, the next great generation.

00:35:19.840 So Gen Z, Gen Alpha, this is what he's offering. 0.62

00:35:23.680 He's not sitting there saying, oh, you need to worship the great generation.

00:35:26.400 You need to worship the baby boomers. 1.00

00:35:27.700 You need to worship the World War II past, et cetera, et cetera. 0.89

00:35:30.060 He's saying, look, look, look, we have our past.

00:35:32.960 We honor our past.

00:35:33.840 We honor our heritage.

00:35:34.720 But at the same time, we actually have to deliver for the future.

00:35:39.280 So, hey, how about you?

00:35:40.980 Do you want to be rich?

00:35:43.140 That's what it's all about.

00:35:44.340 It's about restoring American economic prosperity.

00:35:47.400 Of course, that comes through trade.

00:35:49.480 Of course, that comes through immigration.

00:35:50.900 Of course, that comes through ending the foreign wars.

00:35:54.240 How is President Trump going to create and what is he doing already to create the next

00:35:59.220 great generation?

00:36:00.020 Well, I think just this priority of the trade and the priority of the American worker.

00:36:06.060 I mean, it's no longer cool to be – I mean, I'm not saying anything negative about these

00:36:10.500 professions, but to be in law and to be in health or to be in any of those priority fields,

00:36:17.280 even in politics.

00:36:18.460 Like, Trump's made it cool to be a working class citizen, a blue-colored person.

00:36:23.400 He's made it cool.

00:36:24.620 Like, when he goes out and worked in a McDonald's, he goes out and rides the garbage truck.

00:36:29.460 He goes out to these auto worker planes.

00:36:31.480 He knows that people idolize those who are bringing home the bacon, people who are providing

00:36:37.440 for their families.

00:36:39.020 And, Kenny, you know, to your point, just this last weekend, you know, we were railing

00:36:43.360 on Snow White all last week.

00:36:45.600 What's the number one movie that beat Snow White at the box office this weekend?

00:36:50.060 It's literally called A Working Man, and it's Jason Statham starring him as a construction 0.95

00:36:57.980 worker.

00:36:59.040 I think it's his son or his daughter gets taken, you know, a Liam Neeson-esque story.

00:37:03.420 But, again, just a blue-collar thriller.

00:37:06.240 Jason Statham, a construction worker, defeats Disney, defeats Snow White.

00:37:10.600 They drop 66%.

00:37:12.300 And guess what?

00:37:13.220 America went to go see A Working Man, and they went to go see The Chosen's doing The Last

00:37:17.980 Supper.

00:37:18.220 So you got Easter, and you got the construction worker are leading the box office.

00:37:23.680 Well, exactly.

00:37:24.600 And I think that that's the kind of idolization that a lot of Americans really have in their

00:37:28.360 hearts.

00:37:29.120 You know, but here in Tennessee, when you go out and campaign for governor, you go out

00:37:33.080 and campaign for a political position, people don't want to see you dressed in a shirt and

00:37:36.820 tie and a blazer.

00:37:37.660 They want to see you in overalls.

00:37:39.300 They want to see you in plaid.

00:37:40.500 They want to see you in a flannel.

00:37:41.940 They want to see a working person that can relate to them, that can relate to their families

00:37:46.020 and relate to their friends, people that they've seen growing up.

00:37:49.200 They don't want some utsy-tutsy person from Nashville or Knoxville or Memphis or Chattanooga.

00:37:54.440 They want to see the working man leading their state, leading their district, leading their

00:37:59.340 region.

00:37:59.980 And I think that's the same case for all across America.

00:38:02.780 They idolize people who are going to go in, get their hands dirty, and actually contribute

00:38:08.000 to their families instead of just going and sitting in an office somewhere.

00:38:11.180 And like I said, no offense to get those professions whatsoever, but Trump has made it cool to be

00:38:16.840 blue-collar again.

00:38:17.840 He's made it cool to be working class again.

00:38:20.140 And I think that next great generation is going to become from idolizing those people

00:38:25.120 and putting those people first and putting America first through foreign policy, economic

00:38:29.340 policy, and trade policy.

00:38:30.700 And this really does show reworking of our society.

00:38:35.460 It's reworking it away from these fantasy values, these affluent values, right?

00:38:43.260 These, like the limousine liberal type values of saying, oh, you know, I care so much about

00:38:48.560 DEI, I care so much about CRT and wokeness and all this.

00:38:51.900 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:38:53.320 People are people.

00:38:55.100 Human nature is immutable.

00:38:57.320 You like a movie where Jason Statham is beating up people.

00:39:00.320 He's a construction worker.

00:39:01.720 He's got his boots on.

00:39:02.920 He's getting his hands dirty.

00:39:04.180 People like that kind of movie.

00:39:06.240 It's simple.

00:39:07.480 Everybody gets it.

00:39:08.960 Then what else is banging up the box office?

00:39:11.180 And this is why I talk about this so much, because the box office is a sort of a way to

00:39:17.440 kind of show where the flow of American people are going in American opinion.

00:39:20.640 And you look at it, they're moving away from the liberal coded movies and moving back towards

00:39:25.380 the conservative movies.

00:39:26.840 It is a tangible litmus test for the American people, better than, you know, any of these

00:39:31.660 opinion polls that are coming out there.

00:39:33.560 Why?

00:39:34.060 Because it's dollars that people actually have to put up themselves.

00:39:37.520 Kenny Cody, where can people find your work, man?

00:39:39.940 You can find me on at Kenny Cody 10 on Twitter and follow the Human Events Twitter page, of

00:39:44.960 course, for all of our opinion pieces coming out.

00:39:46.800 And Jack, it's always great to join you.

00:39:48.520 And I hope you have a great rest of your Monday, brother.

00:39:51.620 You as well, my brother.

00:39:53.160 Take care.

00:39:54.000 Working man.

00:39:54.820 Go check it out at the box office.

00:39:56.300 By the way, in the interest of full disclosure, the author of the Working Man book series

00:40:01.860 was also the writer for longtime listeners and longtime followers.

00:40:05.940 Also the writer of the Agent Poso graphic novel task force, Aegis, back in 2019, 2020.

00:40:13.600 The great Chuck Dixon, the creator of Bane.

00:40:16.040 So congratulations, Chuck.

00:40:17.620 All the best to you.

00:40:18.860 You absolutely deserve it.

00:40:20.560 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.

00:40:23.980 Pleasure.

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