Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 28, 2024


THE UNHMANS THANKSGIVING SPECIAL


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Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lysak, co-author of Unhumans and Bulletproof, join host Jack to talk about what it's like to live in a world where the far-left is still trying to subvert all of the goodness that we see around us.

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00:00:00.000 All right, folks, the election is over and Donald Trump has won in a historic landslide.
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00:01:26.680 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:01:36.540 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:01:47.740 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:50.400 Christ is here.
00:01:51.940 Got the breeze blowing through my hair, ain't got no worries so far.
00:01:56.320 But I got a hankering, yearning deep inside, for this book called Unhumans, I just can't hide.
00:02:06.400 It tells a story of secrets and a mystery.
00:02:14.820 The hidden tales of the communist history.
00:02:20.200 I want to know the truth, what really went down.
00:02:23.600 So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
00:02:28.820 Pre-ordering love to us.
00:02:31.700 Can't wait to get my hands on that book.
00:02:34.720 Going to dive into his pages.
00:02:37.420 Take a closer look.
00:02:39.340 From the Russian Revolution.
00:02:42.340 To the pretty rich skin.
00:02:44.900 This book's gonna take me there.
00:02:47.160 I swear.
00:02:47.920 All right, Jack Posobiec live.
00:02:56.440 Happy Thanksgiving.
00:02:58.580 Yes, today is Thanksgiving.
00:03:01.060 And as you recall, that was the Unhumans theme song. 0.91
00:03:05.820 Because today is an Unhumans Thanksgiving special with Jack and Joshua. 0.98
00:03:13.420 Joshua Lysak, co-author of Unhumans and Bulletproof, joins us.
00:03:17.500 Joshua, how are you?
00:03:19.580 Happy Thanksgiving, Jack.
00:03:20.740 It's good to be here again.
00:03:21.860 Thank you.
00:03:22.260 Happy Thanksgiving.
00:03:23.300 Incredible.
00:03:24.120 And so, we have so much to be thankful for.
00:03:27.080 We've been blessed so much with an abundance of joy and abundance of riches this year.
00:03:34.320 And yet, and yet, the Unhumans are still with us, aren't they? 1.00
00:03:41.680 They're still all around us.
00:03:43.840 They're still plying away and attempting to subvert all of the goodness that they see around them.
00:03:52.680 And so, today, I thought something that could be a little bit of fun as people get ready for their Thanksgiving meal, and maybe they are watching this while they're preparing, maybe if you eat early, you're sitting down already, maybe we could talk a little bit about what Thanksgiving with the Unhumans is all like. 0.92
00:04:12.100 That's right.
00:04:42.100 And then, of course, we saw an increase in dread that the second attempt failed there at West Palm Beach.
00:04:54.280 We've seen people cut off family members, beloved family members, over no good reason whatsoever related to the election.
00:05:01.980 We've seen an increase in accusations in violent rhetoric targeting Trump supporters and Trump voters.
00:05:10.300 And given that Team Kamala and Team Unhumanity, as we like to call them, have lost, they are unhappy and their bitterness has increased, as has the hysteria.
00:05:24.420 And so, the unhumanity that the far left has tended to do over the last quarter millennia, in which they deprive good, normal, innocent people of rights to property, rights to liberty, and rights to life, they are rather unhappy.
00:05:43.920 They are no longer in a position where they're able to do that through the executive branch.
00:05:48.540 And so, they're going to go kicking and screaming into any tactic they can, and that is unhumaning you, if you are a family member, if you are a friend, if you are close to them.
00:06:00.040 And that means that they are going to deprive you of your dignity as a human being, in whatever way they can.
00:06:09.920 And one of those may be to cut you off and blame you for everything and take extreme measures.
00:06:16.080 So, let's, yeah, I know we've got about a minute now until the break, but let's, as we go through this, I want to help people.
00:06:25.260 And I want to help people who may be dealing with someone of these, one of these subversives in their household, one of these subversives at the table.
00:06:32.080 We should provide people with some tips and some strategies for having Thanksgiving with the unhumans. 1.00
00:06:40.080 And so, Jack and Joshua are here to help you navigate this thorny landscape.
00:06:47.200 We were victorious this year, but we should be magnanimous in our victory.
00:06:52.220 We should offer those who lost a seat at the table.
00:06:55.360 We certainly should.
00:06:56.740 But, but, we must remember something.
00:07:00.000 Never, ever accept their frame.
00:07:03.960 Never accept their frame.
00:07:05.300 It's as simple as that.
00:07:07.360 We'll explain what that means and more when we're back.
00:07:09.580 It is the unhumans Thanksgiving special here on Human Events Daily.
00:07:19.920 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:07:22.640 These are influencers.
00:07:24.480 And they're friends of mine.
00:07:26.880 Jack.
00:07:27.640 Where's Jack?
00:07:29.340 Jack.
00:07:30.320 He's done a great job.
00:07:31.760 All right, folks, we're back.
00:07:35.960 It is the unhumans Thanksgiving special here on Human Events Daily with Jack and Joshua.
00:07:42.840 Yes, we have cooked the beautiful unhumans turkey for you.
00:07:46.580 We have the wonderful unhumans mashed potatoes.
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00:10:02.880 All right, so, by the way, Joshua, I was talking about earlier there, so we have the, okay, we have the Unhumans Turkey. 0.86
00:10:10.840 What other, you know, what other, so for the CCP, what should it be for the CCP?
00:10:15.580 Well, the CCB will probably, I hate to say it, CCP, what did we learn in the Chinese Cultural Revolution? 0.52
00:10:22.100 That is where, in Guangzhou province and Guizhou province, they delved into a little bit of cannibalism.
00:10:29.820 So, the cannibal cranberries.
00:10:31.520 Yes, it's the cannibal cranberry sauce from the CCP.
00:10:35.020 I'm so sorry.
00:10:35.620 What other ones can you think of?
00:10:36.680 What are we getting from Spain?
00:10:39.260 Well, it's certainly not vegetarian-friendly.
00:10:42.460 We could put it that way.
00:10:43.620 But, I guess, in Spain, I guess you could say it's the unhuman gazpacho, certainly, if we have your unhuman stroganoff, if it's out of Russia. 0.86
00:10:55.880 But, that would be a little bit for Thanksgiving.
00:11:00.060 We have the Bolshevik Beats and the Bolshevik Beats. 0.85
00:11:03.500 Eat your beats, you'll be a very strong communist.
00:11:06.860 Eat your beats.
00:11:09.160 And what is Uncle Franco? 0.60
00:11:10.260 It's going to be a Russian to eat you. 1.00
00:11:11.500 What is Uncle Franco bringing?
00:11:14.120 What about Uncle Frank?
00:11:15.340 What is Uncle Frank bringing for dinner?
00:11:17.840 He brings a side dish of reciprocity.
00:11:22.660 Oh, yes.
00:11:24.920 Reciprocity desserts.
00:11:26.400 And, by the way, Uncle Frank brings just desserts.
00:11:31.400 He always brings just desserts.
00:11:34.360 Indeed.
00:11:36.960 Oh, man.
00:11:37.700 I hate when you talk about this.
00:11:38.440 But, we want to go through – oh, wait.
00:11:41.200 We've got to do the pumpkin pie.
00:11:42.740 I'm thinking the pumpkin pie.
00:11:45.020 And, of course, as we know.
00:11:47.300 Pinochet's pumpkin.
00:11:48.300 Pinochet's pumpkin.
00:11:49.260 But, what about France?
00:11:50.180 Because we know France is famous for their desserts.
00:11:52.880 Right?
00:11:53.160 What about the French?
00:11:53.960 So, the guillotine souffle?
00:11:56.460 That's an idea.
00:12:00.920 But, then you have the idea that it's going to be best served cold.
00:12:06.060 Oh, there you go.
00:12:07.980 There you go.
00:12:08.680 There we go.
00:12:10.840 And, of course, and, of course, Napoleon's pork skewers.
00:12:16.120 Because, what does Napoleon do?
00:12:17.840 We know he's going to skewer it.
00:12:19.160 So, yes.
00:12:19.820 Napoleon Bonaparte will be coming by later.
00:12:22.200 Oh, Uncle Nap with his pork skewers.
00:12:25.420 We could do this all day.
00:12:27.120 We didn't plan this, folks.
00:12:28.140 Obviously, that's why the puns are so incredibly bad.
00:12:31.340 But, that's all right.
00:12:32.460 But, something that's even worse.
00:12:34.160 See, by the way, we're having a good time.
00:12:36.380 We're fun.
00:12:37.260 We are not some sitting there like we're going to go crazy.
00:12:40.560 I love reading the descriptions that have come out after us.
00:12:43.560 And, actually, Joshua, we should take a second.
00:12:45.460 Because, I don't know if we've ever actually just said thank you to everyone.
00:12:48.780 And, I'd like to do that.
00:12:50.000 Thank you for the success of Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:12:57.820 When Joshua and I put together this book, it seemed crazy.
00:13:02.120 I had people telling me that it would never work.
00:13:05.160 I had publishers, who shall remain nameless, telling me that we'd never get it out in time and we wouldn't sell it.
00:13:11.280 And, who would want to buy such a book about communist revolutions that nobody even talks about anymore?
00:13:18.260 And, not only did it go to New York Times bestseller, number one publisher weekly bestseller, USA Today bestseller, all over Amazon.
00:13:27.400 It's just taken on a life of its own.
00:13:29.260 And, I see people quoting it everywhere.
00:13:31.880 I see people citing it all the time.
00:13:33.960 This is what they do has become just a total catchphrase all over the internet.
00:13:39.060 And, so, you know, just thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart.
00:13:43.300 Thank you for supporting this work and for taking it to levels far beyond what we ever dreamed.
00:13:52.080 I mean, Joshua, could you have ever imagined when we first started talking about this that it would be as successful as it was?
00:13:59.440 I did not anticipate this, no, because when we began, the anticipation was, this is a historical non-fiction book about communist revolutions over the past 250 years.
00:14:13.320 And, so, that has a niche market.
00:14:15.840 Now, it's relevant to both of our audiences, certainly.
00:14:18.500 But, in the context of a presidential election year, all the culture war issues that are going on, it doesn't seem obvious that it would fit.
00:14:26.800 But, when we were doing the research, we found something interesting, didn't we, Jack, that tied it all together and made it the most consequential book of the year, didn't we?
00:14:37.440 I mean, and that's what it was, and it really has been, it feels weird saying it, right?
00:14:45.500 It feels a little weird saying it, but, yeah, it really was the most consequential conservative, or, it's not even conservative, but just a book about what it is that we're all living through.
00:14:55.540 And, I think there's something, I mean, you can't take it out of the context of the Trump movement, the fact that, of course, J.D. Vance, who is now the vice president-elect, was one of the blurbs on the back of it, which, by the way, they went after him like crazy for, and happy to report that J.D. never once gave it a second of thought.
00:15:18.080 And, in fact, I received no message from his team whatsoever about ever, you know, saying, hey, can you guys, you know, take my name off there?
00:15:25.760 So, there's nothing like that.
00:15:26.940 There's nothing like that at all.
00:15:28.020 Why?
00:15:28.320 Because they understood what we were talking about.
00:15:30.660 They didn't accept the frame.
00:15:32.500 We'll get into that in a little bit.
00:15:34.080 But, you know, just really caught the zeitgeist at, I think, the perfect time where, and we saw this reflected in the election results, that people were just kind of sick.
00:15:44.900 People were sick of it.
00:15:45.680 They'd had enough.
00:15:46.360 And, Joshua, I know you and I are both affectionate devotees of the morning sip, the simultaneous sip with Scott Adams, and he always talks about, you know, people have said, too far, too far.
00:16:01.380 It's all gone too far.
00:16:02.560 It's all gone too far.
00:16:04.140 And, you know, you and I putting out this book, and actually, the one word that I heard so much in response when people read the book that I hadn't expected, that was surprising to me,
00:16:16.360 was they said it's scary.
00:16:18.520 And they said it's scary.
00:16:19.500 I said, really, it's scary.
00:16:20.560 Because to me, it's, you know, I don't know.
00:16:22.240 I don't get emotional about this stuff, really.
00:16:24.140 It's just that, other than anger.
00:16:26.360 But the, I don't think of it as scary.
00:16:31.020 I just think of this is what's going to happen.
00:16:32.500 This is what's going to happen.
00:16:33.880 And I think, though, that the reason it became scary for people was because they could turn on their TV news.
00:16:41.900 They could open up a newspaper and see things that were eerily similar to that which we were writing about.
00:16:49.160 Exactly, yes.
00:16:52.940 That's why, likely, the book took off, is because in doing the research, we found that there is a template for far-left subversion of a society.
00:17:03.360 It's been used for more than 250 years in country after country, France, China, Russia, Spain, Central and South America, Africa, Southern Africa, even as recently as South Africa in the 1990s.
00:17:19.360 And, of course, here in the United States, where the economic doctrine associated with the Communist Manifesto, Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx, was mutated into a cultural, intersectional force that we like to call cultural Marxism.
00:17:38.240 And the hypothesis that the book ends with is that the United States, for almost three-quarters of a century, has been enduring an irregular communist revolution.
00:17:51.080 And that provided an entirely new urgency to the presidential election.
00:17:59.240 And we had, and we heard, lines directly from the book being quoted on the campaign trail.
00:18:06.600 This idea that he was Trump or...
00:18:08.600 We seriously did. We seriously did.
00:18:10.720 It was...
00:18:11.440 You remember Trump or communism?
00:18:14.100 Yeah, Trump or communism.
00:18:15.960 And I'm telling you, I had people in, like, Scranton, Pennsylvania, Lackawanna, PA, Greeley, PA, up in the north, past the Poconos, come up to me and they said,
00:18:24.560 Yeah, we need to come out and vote for Trump or we're going to be...
00:18:27.580 And not just comments, they said they would say Marxist.
00:18:29.700 They would use the word, we are going to go Marxist.
00:18:32.600 And, of course, President Trump himself started using the phrase over and over that we are going Marxist.
00:18:38.800 And I think that what we did with this book was shift the conversation so far, right, shift the window so far that we could actually open up discussion about what was really going on in the country.
00:18:52.400 Because we made the case.
00:18:53.800 We simply made the case that we've seen this before.
00:18:57.020 All of this has happened before.
00:18:58.720 And all of this can happen again.
00:19:00.980 And stay tuned, it's Jack and Joshua's Thanksgiving with the Unhumans. 0.96
00:19:13.280 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:19:17.380 All right, Jack Posobiec here, back live.
00:19:21.880 This is the Unhumans Thanksgiving special. 0.79
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00:20:54.380 So, I want to play this clip now from Joy Ann Weave on, I guess this was on her TikTok or some such thing the other day,
00:21:04.920 talking about Thanksgiving with Trump-supporting relatives.
00:21:08.740 Let's play that, folks.
00:21:10.300 People are rightfully alarmed.
00:21:12.060 They have a reason to be alarmed.
00:21:13.060 And if you would vote for that, people may not feel so confident that they're safe with you.
00:21:24.420 This is not crazy.
00:21:26.440 This is legitimate feelings of fear of you and a feeling that you might not be someone they could trust.
00:21:33.320 If this thing goes way south, autocracies go south real fast and things get ugly and people get asked to do things and turn people in and point people out and turn on them.
00:21:47.900 And if you're voting affirmatively, gleefully for this, people might, I don't know, may not feel so confident in you anymore.
00:21:59.920 That's real and you kind of have to live with it.
00:22:02.240 So, if you think that you can vote for what people see as their destruction and then demand that they still are cool with you and kiki with you and have Thanksgiving with you,
00:22:13.180 like, I think you're kind of missing the point of what people are upset about.
00:22:18.040 They're afraid.
00:22:19.500 And autocracy and fascism are things that are legitimate to be afraid of.
00:22:24.600 So, you may want to step back.
00:22:28.200 I just really want to step back.
00:22:30.420 I mean, this is just weird.
00:22:42.040 Well, that being said, though, is it weird or is it exactly what you would expect?
00:22:48.640 Joshua, can we apply the unhumans filter to everything joy and weave just said there? 0.73
00:22:55.320 Yes, taking it all as literal declarations, everything that she said would happen, happened after Biden-Harris were elected,
00:23:06.780 where people were turning on family members and reporting one another and betraying and there were secret lists, so on and so forth.
00:23:14.480 There would have been political prisoners over the past four years.
00:23:19.140 Everything that is the unhumans playbook, they accuse normal, everyday, center-right conservative people of doing and then calling it right-wing extremism.
00:23:32.480 And one of the reasons they do this, they project and accuse.
00:23:38.860 Of course, it's right out of the Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, where if you accuse other people of doing what it is that you're doing, then they are stuck defending themselves.
00:23:49.300 So all the attention is on them and them having to prove, no, no, no, I'm really not an extremist.
00:23:55.880 Look at all of my liberal positions.
00:23:57.540 Look at all of the liberal values I hold.
00:23:59.660 Please stop accusing me.
00:24:01.860 That's the sort of, that's the expectation.
00:24:04.160 So if you pull a J.D. Vance and just don't play that game, shrug it off, no comment.
00:24:09.260 Or what I've been doing with my social circle of liberals online, when they post three novel-length comments to my Facebook wall, I simply reply, betterhelp.com.
00:24:24.140 By the way, you're still on Facebook?
00:24:28.120 You mean for like your professional business page, right?
00:24:31.620 You don't mean like you personally use Facebook, do you?
00:24:35.040 Only on occasion, yes.
00:24:37.100 And it's only because I use it for so many years.
00:24:39.020 Oh, that's a yes.
00:24:40.060 That's a yes, folks.
00:24:41.220 That's a yes.
00:24:42.280 That's right.
00:24:42.800 You know, that's okay.
00:24:43.620 You know, Tanya still uses it, to be honest.
00:24:46.320 She uses it because she like keeps in touch with people back home and stuff like that.
00:24:50.860 I just, I don't know, man.
00:24:51.780 I haven't used it.
00:24:52.680 But yeah, you're right.
00:24:53.420 Facebook is one of the places where people will go.
00:24:55.940 And so, Joshua, what is it then?
00:24:58.320 And we have to get into this.
00:24:59.500 So let's say you encounter someone who, all right, let's say they've decided to not go
00:25:04.840 the full, you know, I'm just going to say it.
00:25:07.620 It's cult-like.
00:25:08.460 It is cult-like behavior to do this, to cut off people and say we can only be with those
00:25:14.180 who share our ideology.
00:25:16.500 We can only commune with those.
00:25:19.380 We can only meet with those, break bread. 0.83
00:25:22.160 By the way, the, I'm going to, I'm going to drop something here.
00:25:26.020 I'm going to drop something here right now.
00:25:27.660 You ready for this?
00:25:29.440 Oh, yeah.
00:25:29.820 The, the central, central core of Christianity is to break bread, to break bread.
00:25:41.540 The breaking of bread is central to the mass.
00:25:44.880 In fact, it is the bread of the Last Supper, which then becomes the Eucharist.
00:25:52.300 This is the, this is the central core of every mass.
00:25:55.080 When Christ breaks bread, that means to commune, to be with his people.
00:26:01.740 And in, in fact, in colloquial phraseology, we use the term breaking bread to actually mean
00:26:08.820 sitting down with people that we don't always agree with.
00:26:11.100 That's the literal meaning, or, you know, at least the implication of that phrase is,
00:26:15.740 oh, we're going to break bread.
00:26:16.620 Hey, we're going to break bread.
00:26:17.600 Yeah, we've been, you know, believe me, there's been a bunch of people that, you know, I'm
00:26:22.020 probably going to have to break bread with after this year, but I'll do so.
00:26:25.340 I will absolutely do so.
00:26:27.580 And so that's Christian, but the communist does not want the breaking of bread.
00:26:32.600 The communists wants the opposite.
00:26:34.140 The communist does not want to find common ground.
00:26:36.480 The communist and communism, which, which by the way, and I'll just say this as well.
00:26:41.260 I spoke with Father Ripperger about this when he came down to Mar-a-Lago and we had a beautiful
00:26:46.540 Latin mass and he did, and just, just an incredible blessing to myself and Tanya Tay, a personal
00:26:53.420 blessing for us, which was just fantastic.
00:26:55.700 And he was giving a little talk afterwards, and I'm not going to get into everything he
00:27:01.340 said because it was private, but one thing that he mentioned was if, which I think is
00:27:06.980 germane for what we're talking about, he said, if the devil himself were to design a political
00:27:12.280 ideology, it would be communism.
00:27:16.360 Wow.
00:27:18.800 So, so Joshua, let's, let's go through this then.
00:27:21.640 Let's say, okay, that's them.
00:27:23.340 That's them.
00:27:23.760 That's one side, put a pause in that.
00:27:26.160 We promised people we would do this.
00:27:27.560 Let's say that you do though.
00:27:29.140 You, you encounter someone who says, I want to convert you.
00:27:34.060 I want you to walk away from your Trump support, or I want you to, to see the error of your ways.
00:27:42.280 And you, you, you people, we understand you're upset because, oh, whites are becoming a minority 0.85
00:27:48.960 or you're upset because, uh, trans are out of the bathroom now and into the other bathroom.
00:27:56.080 And you're upset because there's so much acceptance and so much, but that's all this is.
00:28:00.840 It's just a response to all the progress and all the changes.
00:28:04.100 But, but you'll eventually get with the program.
00:28:08.200 What are some tips that people can use to, uh, interact with these people?
00:28:13.480 And I'm not going to say you're going to turn them into a Trump supporter, but just in general,
00:28:17.660 what can we do?
00:28:18.380 Yes, besides ghostwriting and writing books, scaring avowed socialists into hiding with
00:28:28.760 some of the books that I do, I also have a background in professional hypnosis.
00:28:32.320 So I'm going to use the hypnosis filter onto this.
00:28:35.720 When you look at the mental and social environment of the leftist liberals, and even your garden
00:28:42.200 variety Democrats, their world has enforced rules, morals, and social shaming is part of
00:28:52.240 that to enforce that this sort of internally and externally enforced system of shame, where
00:28:59.260 you can't say these things unless you're, um, willing to be ostracized.
00:29:04.780 Cancel culture is a uniquely left-wing phenomenon.
00:29:07.460 And so if we want to think about changing people's minds, at least going from antagonizing us over
00:29:14.960 a turkey leg, uh, going from negative to neutral, we have to think about what allows the liberal
00:29:23.180 to shame-free change their mind.
00:29:27.080 And that is not throwing in lots of evidence and facts, data.
00:29:32.240 Facts don't care about your feelings.
00:29:33.680 And on humans, we say, no, feelings don't care about your facts.
00:29:38.500 The feelings of the left do not care about the facts of the right.
00:29:42.000 So if you come out and say, well, almost two thirds of Native Americans voted for Donald
00:29:46.660 Trump, that, that it's like speaking a different language. 0.94
00:29:50.880 They're just going to interpret what you said as, oh, so Trump hates Indians.
00:29:54.620 Is that what you just said?
00:29:55.620 What?
00:29:56.320 What?
00:29:56.680 How did you get the opposite of what I said?
00:29:58.660 Right?
00:29:59.000 So facts are, are useless because they will take it and twist it into the exact opposite.
00:30:02.580 So here's what you can do.
00:30:04.380 You can do what's called pacing and leading comes directly from the hypnosis, uh, in practice,
00:30:10.840 working with clients privately.
00:30:12.400 And what you do is you radically agree and maximally agree with what it is that they said
00:30:20.660 that you believe that you can agree with.
00:30:23.380 So, for example, let's say they come out with some bomb about, uh, Trump or one of his affiliates
00:30:29.980 or nominees, maybe it's RFK jr.
00:30:32.520 And they say something about RFK jr.
00:30:34.940 That is frankly a horrific insult, even a lie.
00:30:38.880 And you can say, yeah, a lot of people think that about RFK jr.
00:30:43.240 A lot of people feel that way about him and Nicole Shanahan and the Make America Healthy
00:30:49.220 Again movement.
00:30:50.080 A lot of people feel that way.
00:30:51.860 And then that will allow them to feel comfortable sharing their feelings.
00:30:56.320 Do this enough times.
00:30:58.160 And it's not probably going to be over Thanksgiving dinner, but this will diffuse the intensity.
00:31:03.300 So the agreeing with the feeling.
00:31:05.720 Yeah.
00:31:05.900 A lot of people feel that.
00:31:07.460 A lot of people agree with that.
00:31:08.920 Yeah.
00:31:09.040 A lot of people think that.
00:31:10.020 Yeah.
00:31:10.240 And just do that continually.
00:31:12.160 It might take months.
00:31:14.460 It might even take years.
00:31:17.140 But if that's your stance of being magnanimous.
00:31:21.660 Yes.
00:31:22.260 With friends, family, and relatives.
00:31:24.180 And we should be.
00:31:24.780 We should be.
00:31:25.620 With them.
00:31:26.520 Yeah.
00:31:27.720 Be magnanimous.
00:31:29.360 Be that way.
00:31:30.980 Hold that thought.
00:31:31.560 Quick break.
00:31:32.080 Right back.
00:31:32.740 The Thanksgiving Unhuman Special continues.
00:31:40.240 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:31:43.520 Where is Jack?
00:31:45.640 Where is he?
00:31:46.920 Jack, I want to see you.
00:31:50.560 Great job, Jack.
00:31:51.980 Thank you.
00:31:52.740 What a job you do.
00:31:54.180 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:31:55.580 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:31:57.880 But we have guys.
00:31:59.340 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:32:01.360 All right, Jack, we're so big back.
00:32:04.920 Here we are.
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00:34:16.540 Joshua Lysak, co-author of Unhumans and another book, which I want to mention in a minute here.
00:34:22.540 You were in the middle of telling us all about, so you walked through and unpacked the psychology of a leftist.
00:34:31.700 And the fact that they actually tend to get more triggered when they are faced with someone who's being polite and happy and fun.
00:34:41.280 You know, maybe, by the way, you could even prepare a little one of, everyone should do this, by the way, for leftists out there and say, look, I'm very sorry that you lost.
00:34:51.060 And I'm very sorry that you're not going to be living under communism, but we're going to do something for you.
00:34:56.720 So I want to give you a little taste of what it would be like if communism had won and just hand them an empty bowl and say, there you go.
00:35:05.280 There you go.
00:35:06.200 You can taste exactly what it would have been like to live in Chairman Mao's China with Mao's iron rice bowl of absolutely nothing.
00:35:14.240 OK, no, no, that's probably not going to work, Joshua, is it?
00:35:17.120 No, no, it certainly wouldn't.
00:35:20.380 You know, we like to we like to joke that your typical liberal here in America, they're NPR Americans, meaning they they listen to national public radio, NPR, which, of course, takes federal federal money, despite their insistence that they don't.
00:35:32.940 And they believe what's on the radio.
00:35:36.700 And so people who believe whatever they're told by their mainstream media news sources, they do, in fact, believe that very bad, very scary, very unsafe people are calling all the shots now and that we are teetering into a totalitarian dictatorship and there's nothing they can do about it.
00:35:56.140 So imagine that that almost childish understanding of reality that that that worldview possesses, the filter of reality that that worldview is.
00:36:07.840 Now, imagine you have this image, very scary, very bad people.
00:36:13.420 Now, imagine you over Thanksgiving, over the Thanksgiving meal or any other time, really, you come along and imagine you have all these facts and studies and data and statistics and department this and Elon Musk this.
00:36:25.380 And Vivek Ramaswamy that and Hegseth and Vance and you go through all of these different characters.
00:36:31.740 As I understand the vibe of that, the vibe is the very bad, very scary people have all the facts on their side.
00:36:39.020 What just happened?
00:36:40.340 Their anxiety goes up.
00:36:42.380 The resistance to you goes up.
00:36:44.480 All persuasion is self persuasion.
00:36:47.700 Persuasion cannot happen in a state of defensiveness.
00:36:51.600 The more facts you bring, the scarier you become, the higher the wall between you and them gets.
00:36:58.760 That's why we recommend agreeing with their emotional state.
00:37:02.600 Yeah, a lot of people are afraid of Donald Trump.
00:37:05.380 Yeah, a lot of people feel like Hegg says this, Vance this, Vivek that, Elon this.
00:37:10.480 A lot of people really feel that way.
00:37:11.880 You're right.
00:37:12.620 Yeah.
00:37:12.780 And what can happen over time, Jack?
00:37:16.920 I'm sure over time you've seen how people can soften it up, warm up, and of their own volition, go from TDS, Trump derangement syndrome, to, you know, did you see this?
00:37:30.540 I just saw this amazing thing that this guy did.
00:37:32.700 Like, Trump, wow, I guess that's cool.
00:37:35.500 And they won't come out and say, I was wrong, because, again, in the social shaming frame, they can't admit to being wrong emotionally, but they have to, almost like a cat, think of, and I believe this is why, metaphorically, liberals tend to be like the cat, the cat ladies, right?
00:37:52.740 It's because they almost have the countenance of a cat, where it comes around when it feels safe.
00:37:59.440 Allow them to come around to you.
00:38:00.940 I think that's all we're asking for, right, Jack?
00:38:04.200 Yeah, I mean, it's simple, right?
00:38:05.980 And so you have this ability to kind of sit there and say, look, it's like, I know we're not going to, because you have to understand, all right, for a lot of these people, especially millennials, but also a lot of Gen Xers, Gen Xers had the biggest swing, but there's a lot of Gen Xers that have not swung.
00:38:21.160 And they thought for the last 15 years that Barack Obama was the coolest person in the world, that they were the smart ones, that they were the cool ones, that they were the best and the brightest.
00:38:37.520 Of course, I'm the best.
00:38:38.720 Of course, I'm the most educated.
00:38:40.260 Of course, I'm the most informed.
00:38:41.500 I read the New York Times cover to cover every day, and I only listen to NPR when I'm in my car.
00:38:45.760 And to them, that's what being well-informed is, which what they don't realize is, of course, that they are living in a bubble.
00:38:53.680 They were the ones in the echo chamber, and those people just found out, they just found out that they're not the majority anymore, that they are, in fact, the minority.
00:39:03.620 And so you'll get, there's that book, When Prophecy Fails, that describes a lot of what they're going through right now.
00:39:11.580 And, you know, it's sort of like, now, typically, with Joy Reid, you'll get doubling down.
00:39:18.280 And so that's what you saw from her.
00:39:19.680 She's doubling down. 1.00
00:39:20.480 She's saying, just shun them.
00:39:21.600 They're wrong.
00:39:22.600 Rachel Maddow says, you have marching orders.
00:39:25.100 What did Rachel Maddow say?
00:39:25.840 You have marching orders from the universe.
00:39:28.220 You must resist.
00:39:29.720 You must resist.
00:39:31.240 You must resist.
00:39:32.400 Just over and over and over.
00:39:33.920 This is what we must do in our time.
00:39:35.720 And she's, you know, playing it out like she's some sort of, you know, I don't know, resistance.
00:39:40.400 Like she's in the Polish resistance in World War II or something.
00:39:43.940 Please.
00:39:44.660 Please.
00:39:45.160 By the way, you'd be the one.
00:39:46.580 All right.
00:39:46.780 I'm not going to go there.
00:39:48.040 I'm not going to go there.
00:39:49.000 But we saw how people acted during COVID.
00:39:50.820 That's all I'm going to say.
00:39:51.780 That's all I'm going to say.
00:39:53.060 All right.
00:39:53.420 We saw how people acted during COVID.
00:39:55.140 And that's all I'm going to say about that.
00:39:57.740 But Joshua, no, I think what it is with these people, you've got to find, you've got to find
00:40:03.180 an end point, right?
00:40:04.060 You've got to, and you can talk around it.
00:40:06.120 You could say, oh, I didn't expect this to happen or yeah, things went really well for
00:40:10.480 us.
00:40:11.140 And honestly, I've seen a lot of them.
00:40:13.100 I will say this.
00:40:14.080 I've seen a lot of them look at inflation and say, you know what?
00:40:17.520 You know, inflation was really bad and that really did hurt people.
00:40:20.880 And I think that's something where, I don't know, Joshua, have you seen that?
00:40:23.020 Yes, yes, I have.
00:40:26.020 Yes.
00:40:27.440 And so do you think that there's a way by talking about inflation, that there's a way to kind
00:40:32.180 of explain to people that, you know, or at least get them to open up about, hey, maybe
00:40:36.160 this is why some of these other issues didn't matter so much.
00:40:38.600 I ironically, no, I don't think so, because I tested that once to see if it would work.
00:40:45.700 You know what the response was, Jack?
00:40:48.000 What was the response?
00:40:48.720 What was the response?
00:40:50.200 Well, CNN says that inflation has never been low.
00:40:53.560 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:40:56.100 Oh, man.
00:40:56.980 Wait, was that before or after the election?
00:40:58.960 Was that before or after?
00:41:00.620 After.
00:41:00.980 Oh, yes.
00:41:04.900 Without irony and not as a joke.
00:41:07.500 Now, I think that to plug our second book, Bulletproof, a little bit, I think a more reasonable
00:41:16.000 way to bring the person into a state of suggestibility to you is to talk about the attempted assassination
00:41:23.880 of Donald Trump with a question like, can you imagine how his wife Melania must have felt
00:41:29.500 when she saw that?
00:41:31.180 Because we know from liberals, liberals are focused on safety, security, almost like maternal
00:41:36.620 instinct, unfortunately.
00:41:37.820 Just the fact that the story makes no sense.
00:41:40.300 The fact that the story makes no sense doesn't add up at all.
00:41:43.200 And it's like, look, we can all agree on this.
00:41:45.040 JFK, the story doesn't make any sense.
00:41:46.600 Trump and Butler, the story makes no sense whatsoever.
00:41:50.300 These are great and perfect examples of ways to just, you know, you talk about the elephant
00:41:55.500 in the room, but you don't argue about it.
00:41:58.700 We can do this.
00:41:59.380 We can do this.
00:42:07.960 Jack is a great guy.
00:42:09.540 He's written a fantastic book.
00:42:11.220 Everybody's talking about it.
00:42:12.400 Go get it.
00:42:13.500 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:42:17.020 And we're going to turn it around and make sure it's actually quite a good deal.
00:42:20.760 Amen.
00:42:24.300 Well, that was the perfect bumper for the segment here because we were just going to
00:42:29.060 talk about a subject that could be used to start a conversation about Trump that isn't
00:42:36.380 necessarily one that's going to hopefully lead to some, you know, crazed debate.
00:42:40.860 And that's these swirling questions about not one, but two assassination attempts that took
00:42:47.480 place on Donald Trump throughout the course of this election.
00:42:51.620 One of which in Butler, Pennsylvania, July 13th, another one, September 15th in West Palm
00:42:57.700 Beach.
00:42:58.280 The individual, by the way, goes on trial in February.
00:43:01.580 That was pushed back.
00:43:02.660 It was initially supposed to be starting last week, I believe.
00:43:05.520 And they did push that back because and Joshua, you and I haven't even chatted about this
00:43:11.260 yet because I've been I've been running around doing the Game of Thrones stuff down at Mar-a-Lago.
00:43:15.660 But it's the I did actually get a data dump on Ryan Wesley Ralph while I was down there
00:43:23.660 that one of the reasons that they have had to push back the court date is because there
00:43:28.460 is so much information on this guy and only information on him, but information on what
00:43:34.300 he was up to in Ukraine.
00:43:36.620 Remember, the CIA had that file that was on him that they passed over to DHS right before
00:43:43.180 he came back into the country, into Honolulu.
00:43:46.660 And of course, DHS let him pass anyway without actually digging into it.
00:43:50.240 So what's in the file?
00:43:52.520 What's in the file?
00:43:54.600 And by the way, I fully expect that whatever whatever really, really dark stuff was in there
00:44:00.280 is going to be completely shredded by the time Trump and his administration and his cabinet
00:44:05.800 and Tulsi Gabbard and everyone else get up there in the administration. 1.00
00:44:09.000 But still, this guy's got some really shady context.
00:44:13.400 So, Joshua, just, you know, kind of open ended question.
00:44:16.960 Are there ways for people to go?
00:44:18.820 And of course, everyone's going to have to get themselves a copy of Bulletproof.
00:44:21.840 By the way, the the audio book for Bulletproof is completed.
00:44:26.180 It is in post-production and it will be available very, very soon.
00:44:31.380 We're shooting to have it available by Christmas or certainly, you know, certainly prior to Christmas.
00:44:37.040 And so so, Joshua, how can people use the strange questions about the Trump assassination
00:44:43.540 attempts to maybe open up a conversation with liberals?
00:44:46.040 Yes. So Bulletproof, the book, is written like a whodunit mystery.
00:44:51.780 But of course, it's entirely nonfiction and everybody loves a good mystery.
00:44:56.520 That is what part of that's a part of it that is apolitical.
00:44:59.620 And the fact that the story doesn't seem to make sense.
00:45:01.600 How could this guy have gotten that close?
00:45:03.680 So just like you said, Jack, it's not about Trump.
00:45:07.160 It's about the story about Trump.
00:45:10.240 So it is disassociated from the negative feelings about Trump personally.
00:45:17.420 And it's reassociating with a parallel story, which is about the assassination attempt, all
00:45:22.580 the mysteries behind it.
00:45:24.120 So knowing that so many of the liberals that are going to be in your lives, those of you
00:45:27.960 watching right now, they are afraid.
00:45:30.960 They're terrified.
00:45:31.800 Many of them are petrified.
00:45:33.820 He's going to take all your rights away is what the frame is that has been presented to
00:45:38.060 them.
00:45:38.280 And so to talk about Trump directly and throw fact, back, back, back, back, ah, big, scary
00:45:43.600 Trump supporter has all the facts on their side.
00:45:45.440 That's even worse.
00:45:46.300 Wall go up.
00:45:47.280 Defensiveness gets stronger, right?
00:45:49.220 We want to instead disassociated from those triggers to talk directly about the mystery
00:45:54.140 of this.
00:45:54.480 How could that guy have gotten so close?
00:45:56.500 And if you know some of the details, you can speak to that.
00:45:59.060 Now, there's a tip that we can repurpose from my fellow hypnotist, Scott Adams of the
00:46:05.220 simultaneous SIP fame every day.
00:46:06.960 What he suggests that you, a line that you use with your liberal family members this
00:46:12.600 Thanksgiving, and those of you who are on the East Coast, you still got a couple hours
00:46:16.020 to the big Thanksgiving dinner.
00:46:17.260 Make sure you use this one.
00:46:18.920 It is, have you heard the counter argument?
00:46:22.300 Well, have you heard the counter to that?
00:46:23.900 Rather than just saying, for example, they'll say, well, Thomas Matthew Crooks, the Butler
00:46:27.760 Schroeder, he was a registered Republican.
00:46:31.400 So obviously, if his own team, his own side hates him that much, well, then just that just
00:46:36.340 tells me everything I need to know.
00:46:37.780 This is what they're going to say, right?
00:46:39.360 So then instead of saying, actually, no, and then you get defensive.
00:46:42.540 That's not true.
00:46:43.920 Instead, you can say, have you heard the counter to that?
00:46:46.180 Because if you're more informed than they are, well, then your higher status, it's a perpetual
00:47:14.780 status game the NPR Americans are playing.
00:47:17.380 And so it is an invitation to have a conversation.
00:47:20.920 And you can say, well, Thomas Matthew Crooks was a donor for Act Blue.
00:47:26.240 I'm a donor for Act Blue.
00:47:29.360 Because the likelihood that they will, in fact, be donors for Act Blue is surprisingly high.
00:47:34.620 Well, wait a second.
00:47:35.680 And then now you can, you've got them off guard a little bit.
00:47:38.580 Well, or what do you call it?
00:47:41.280 The Smurfs for Act Mule, for the Smurfs and Mules for Act Blue.
00:47:44.880 But we can, we can talk about that some other time.
00:47:48.200 Indeed.
00:47:49.020 Oh, yes.
00:47:49.580 All the, the, the, the shenanigans associated with Act Blue.
00:47:52.180 Yeah, the James O'Keefe has been digging into that.
00:47:55.620 Yes.
00:47:55.980 Yes.
00:47:56.220 And so facts about the case, about how suspicious, especially suspicious it is, it allows you
00:48:02.260 to disassociate from their negative emotions around it and let them run wild.
00:48:06.520 And then you will use the same tip that we had earlier in this show, which was anything
00:48:11.400 that they say that is just bonkers or frankly insulting.
00:48:15.460 Again, give maximum emotional agreement and validation for the feeling.
00:48:19.820 Oh, yeah.
00:48:20.440 Yeah.
00:48:20.780 A lot of people feel like that rhetoric has gotten out of control.
00:48:23.860 Yeah.
00:48:24.500 A lot of people feel like that the rhetoric is, it's causing real violence in this country.
00:48:28.080 Yeah.
00:48:28.260 Isn't that terrible?
00:48:29.120 I mean, look, they shot Trump over it.
00:48:31.060 Maybe, you know, multiple times.
00:48:33.040 Oh, then they might say, what do you mean they?
00:48:35.860 What do you mean they?
00:48:36.900 Yeah.
00:48:37.340 Yeah.
00:48:37.540 Right.
00:48:38.000 Yeah.
00:48:38.600 And then you talk about, oh, you know.
00:48:39.980 Who are they?
00:48:40.620 Who are they?
00:48:41.480 Yeah.
00:48:42.600 And then in the book, we equip you early on in Bulletproof, we equip you with quote after
00:48:47.420 quote after quote of Democrat leaders and celebrities wishing death upon Donald J.
00:48:52.740 Trump. 0.99
00:48:53.860 Wishing death. 0.99
00:48:54.740 Look, look, this is the book.
00:48:57.920 This book is the perfect compendium to go down the rabbit hole of the whodunit of answering
00:49:03.540 those questions about and asking more questions that people, you know, presenting information
00:49:08.080 that people don't even realize.
00:49:10.220 Look, just in our final minute here, you know, I want to say to everybody out there, I hope
00:49:14.780 you have a great Thanksgiving.
00:49:15.800 And just just from a personal perspective, I hope that people who have been living for
00:49:22.300 the last 15 years or so in this world can come back and say, you know what?
00:49:25.900 There's more to life than politics and there's human companionship and there's relationships
00:49:30.860 and there's families.
00:49:31.920 And maybe that's more important.
00:49:33.420 Joshua, what do you say?
00:49:34.160 Give thanks for the opportunity to emotionally validate your NPR American family so that you
00:49:41.780 can deescalate and eventually persuade them to wear MAGDA hat.
00:49:47.040 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay ashore.