Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 22, 2025


The Unhumans Conduct Street Assassination In Washington DC and Unpacking the Big Beautiful Bill

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Jeff Webb Trump George Floyd Luigi Maggioni Derek Chauvin Liz Collin Katie Blackwell Bill Haggerty Charlie Kirk Gavin Newsom Sarah Milgram Anna Paulina Luna Elizabeth Warren Marsha Blackburn LaMonica McIver Caitlin Collins Carmelo Anthony Yaron Lashinsky Tucker Carlson Taylor Lorenz and 15 more
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Unhuman violence has made its way to street assassinations in Washington D.C. A local judge in Massachusetts is trying to force the U.S. to bring back monsters who present a clear and present threat to the safety of the American people and American victims. A man detained and handcuffed by event security was heard chanting, Free, Free Palestine! No, no, no no. Free, free Palestine.

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00:01:13.620 And now there are calls to maybe expel McIver from Congress.
00:01:17.800 A local judge in Massachusetts is trying to force the United States to bring back these
00:01:22.460 uniquely barbaric monsters who present a clear and present threat to the safety of the American
00:01:28.860 people and American victims.
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00:01:56.300 A deadly shooting in Washington, D.C., happening right outside the Capitol Jewish Museum, where
00:02:01.100 a young diplomat's reception organized by the American Jewish Committee was being held.
00:02:05.520 A man and woman, both staffers at the Israeli embassy, were killed.
00:02:08.420 A man detained and handcuffed by event security was heard chanting,
00:02:12.080 Free, free Palestine.
00:02:13.840 No, no, no.
00:02:17.500 Free, free Palestine!
00:02:20.540 Free, free Palestine!
00:02:23.220 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, here live, Washington, D.C.
00:02:31.680 Today is May 22nd, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:02:35.320 Well, folks, unhuman violence has made its way to street assassinations in Washington, D.C.
00:02:46.020 This comes on the heels of the left embracing Luigi Maggioni, the left endorsing him, supporting
00:02:54.040 him, CNN platforming Luigi Maggioni's fandom, Caitlin Collins sharing out a link for Luigi Maggioni's
00:03:02.060 crowdfund, Taylor Lorenz, formerly of the Washington Post, going on on television and saying that
00:03:09.620 she felt joy when Luigi Maggioni killed a man in cold blood, and the coddling of killers
00:03:18.180 like Carmelo Anthony and killers from Trende Aragua and MS-13.
00:03:23.460 I went to the White House several weeks ago and warned about the rise of the left's embrace
00:03:30.300 of assassination culture and said that there will be more of this specifically in Washington,
00:03:37.660 D.C. if something is not done about it.
00:03:41.460 These unhumans, these people, they hate the world. 1.00
00:03:49.000 They hate humanity. 1.00
00:03:50.920 They hate themselves.
00:03:52.480 And remember, I want to be clear about this.
00:03:55.460 This was not done for the people of Palestine.
00:04:00.420 Luigi Maggioni's shooting was not done over health care rights.
00:04:04.720 BLM was not conducted over racial harmony. 0.89
00:04:08.060 Okay?
00:04:08.780 The violence is the point.
00:04:12.080 The violence is the tactic.
00:04:14.240 Race, communism, race, Marxism is done because they want the violence.
00:04:21.900 Everything else is window dressing.
00:04:24.380 Everything else is just a sales pitch to get you to go along with it, to justify it.
00:04:30.880 And unfortunately, there are so many people in our country.
00:04:34.380 Elizabeth Warren said this is a warning.
00:04:36.880 AOC said she could understand why Luigi Maggioni did it.
00:04:40.280 Well, guess what?
00:04:42.100 It's come now to the nation's capital and two young victims, Yaron Lashinsky and Sarah Lynn Milgram,
00:04:51.740 have lost their lives because of this street assassination. 0.80
00:04:57.280 Absolutely horrible and disgusting.
00:05:00.480 And understand, though, folks, there are people in this country who support this and want to see more of it. 0.53
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00:06:54.960 So, one of the cases of violence that we're talking about and certainly have been talking about for a long time is the rise of BLM,
00:07:06.240 which led to something that has been referred to as the fall of Minneapolis.
00:07:11.380 And the reporter who put together that documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis, joins us now from Alpha News.
00:07:17.980 It is Liz Collin.
00:07:19.380 Liz, how are you?
00:07:20.780 Doing well, Jack.
00:07:21.740 Good to see you.
00:07:22.360 Thanks for having me back.
00:07:23.160 Liz, can you believe it has been five years since the George Floyd moment?
00:07:30.240 You know, I think in so many ways, so much has changed.
00:07:33.560 But then also, I think I've been reminded this week, if you pay any attention to the mainstream news, how little has changed.
00:07:41.920 And that's sort of been our goal for these last few years, to try to wake people up.
00:07:46.500 Here is the truth about what actually took place in all of this.
00:07:50.760 But, you know, even in your first segment, what you were talking about, just sort of normalizing violence, we still have this, you know, sort of peaceful protest messaging that's being put on us here in Minnesota, despite, you know, 1,500 businesses being damaged or destroyed in the riots.
00:08:07.420 And let's not forget about the homicide rate that has completely skyrocketed in the last few years and crime rate just overall, not just in Minneapolis, but across the state of Minnesota, across the country.
00:08:18.580 And I truly think, Jack, that until people acknowledge this, tell the truth, I'm not sure how this gets better.
00:08:27.500 And, you know, I'm kind of curious what you think there as well.
00:08:29.960 I think we do need truth, and I also think that we need really just a zero-tolerance policy for violence.
00:08:38.680 Violence is never acceptable.
00:08:40.860 It doesn't matter what cause you support or what your opinions are on some far-off conflict or what your opinions are about law enforcement, et cetera.
00:08:51.780 Guess what?
00:08:52.320 We live in a free country.
00:08:53.860 There is a place for things like that.
00:08:56.220 It is called the ballot box.
00:08:57.660 We have the First Amendment.
00:08:58.540 We have bend over backwards to allow people to express their First Amendment rights in this country, which don't exist, by the way, anywhere else in the world.
00:09:07.820 Go to England right now.
00:09:09.160 You get arrested for tweets and memes and posts on Facebook.
00:09:13.540 We have this in the United States.
00:09:15.960 And so when anyone turns to violence, they need to be brought to justice immediately.
00:09:22.060 And unfortunately, there are too many people who have taken this soft position on political violence.
00:09:26.820 And that's why the Flames have fanned, I think, to the point where they are.
00:09:31.880 Now, something I think, though, when it comes to getting to the truth of this also matters as well.
00:09:37.060 I've talked about it for a long time.
00:09:38.500 You've talked about it for a long time.
00:09:40.460 Where are we at and where are you at on your reporting on the case of Derek Chauvin?
00:09:45.160 You know, we actually just put out a recent series over at Alpha News.
00:09:50.660 You can find it on Alpha News MN.
00:09:52.940 That's our YouTube channel.
00:09:54.260 But three different parts.
00:09:55.680 We have a long conversation with Chutau.
00:09:58.440 He's one of the police officers still in prison.
00:10:01.180 He was keeping the crowd back that day.
00:10:03.920 He was given an extra year on his sentence because he was reciting Bible verses during his sentencing.
00:10:10.920 And the far left judge in Hennepin County, Peter Cahill, did not like that, added another year to his sentence.
00:10:17.140 He will be out this coming fall.
00:10:20.840 Our second story in the series focuses on Alex King, the black police officer who arrested George Floyd that the media completely ignored.
00:10:28.600 Because, of course, this was also all about a racial reckoning, despite all of these officers being from a mixed race background.
00:10:36.380 But don't let the, you know, the facts actually get in the way of this divisive narrative that we're trying to push on the public.
00:10:41.740 And then our third part in the series we just released a couple days ago.
00:10:45.880 And that's kind of a behind the scenes of this defamation case that has been dismissed against us now.
00:10:51.000 And how this has really brought more of the truth to light about this testimony involving now Assistant Police Chief Katie Blackwell of the Minneapolis Police Department.
00:10:59.960 And all of these officers coming forward to say that she perjured herself in Derek Chauvin's trial.
00:11:06.760 So those are all available for free to see on our YouTube channel.
00:11:10.200 And this week, though, you'll like this, Jack.
00:11:12.200 I was referred to by Minnesota's largest newspaper there, the Star Tribune, a soulless filmmaker.
00:11:17.840 I'm a political extremist, just in case you were wondering.
00:11:22.360 And they went after us saying George Floyd's story is being rewritten.
00:11:26.940 This narrative is being rewritten.
00:11:28.560 But yet they turned off all of the comments related to that story on all of their social media channels.
00:11:35.120 So that is what we deal with here in Minnesota.
00:11:37.120 And sadly, the public is worse off for it because they're simply just not even getting the truth.
00:11:42.900 Well, Liz, what's going on here is that when we live in a time of lies and when those in power are able to maintain their power because of lies, the most threatening individual to them is the truth teller.
00:11:58.580 And that's what you have been and that's what your reporting has been, simply telling the truth so that these lies that they derive their power base from will be eroded because they rightly view the truth as a threat to their power, a threat to their infrastructure.
00:12:14.900 And that's exactly what it is.
00:12:16.900 By the way, they could easily just come clean and tell the truth and then stand before the voters of the city, the voters of the state.
00:12:23.360 But it's quite interesting that they don't seem to want to do that.
00:12:26.960 We actually have a clip, I think, from one of your recent interviews that sort of gets to this that I want to play now.
00:12:34.400 You have the body camera withheld from the public for months.
00:12:38.800 Do you think if they would have just come out and told the truth about everything from the beginning, we'd even be here?
00:12:44.180 Absolutely not.
00:12:45.640 No.
00:12:46.380 I mean, the things would not happen in a way that 100 percent of all that evidence is the autopsy.
00:12:52.880 Some people are, oh, I don't care about the autopsy.
00:12:54.500 How can you not care about the autopsy?
00:12:55.680 It's all part of the evidence of the whole case.
00:12:57.820 You bring all that outlay, it all on the table, let everybody look at it.
00:13:00.860 And no, we're not going to be here.
00:13:02.760 So the truth really mattered here and they didn't tell it?
00:13:05.780 Absolutely.
00:13:06.860 Absolutely.
00:13:09.200 And so give us the context.
00:13:11.380 What was he saying there?
00:13:12.920 Yeah, as part of these stories, we talked to some former Minneapolis police officers that went ahead and did these declarations for our case.
00:13:23.760 They were very courageous to come forward and speak out against the number two in charge of the police department.
00:13:29.200 But they talked about that just, you know, this gutted the Minneapolis police department down about 40 percent still now, you know, five years later.
00:13:37.500 And actually just yesterday, we saw the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, and the current police chief, Brian O'Hara, stand before reporters and talk about, you know, this federal consent decree.
00:13:48.520 They've now said that the DOJ is not going to impose this in Minneapolis, but they are so desperate to have, you know, more oversight on these officers that remain.
00:13:59.660 And they were just talking about how they're moving forward with their own consent decree anyway.
00:14:04.040 It really is crazy.
00:14:06.580 Despite the fact that there is no evidence that these actually work, despite the fact that, again, crime is out of control.
00:14:14.380 Things aren't even tracked anymore.
00:14:16.340 And so we brought a lot of those voices to the table in these stories.
00:14:20.580 And what's really sad is you just don't see these people being interviewed by anyone else.
00:14:26.240 And, you know, we've always said with this story to get as close to the truth as possible.
00:14:31.400 And that's what we've been trying to do.
00:14:33.420 Quick break coming up.
00:14:34.460 By the way, I know that our new DOJ, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, has also been talking about the misuse of these consent degrees.
00:14:44.140 Harmeet Dillon, and it occurs to me that I should probably get the two of you chatting about that.
00:14:51.000 Perhaps you can come all the way to D.C. to give a briefing on just how horrible this has been.
00:14:56.260 Folks, we're putting things into action because this is an action network here on Human Events.
00:15:01.340 You're listening to Jack Posobiec, Bill of America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.
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00:15:13.340 These are influences.
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00:15:19.120 Where's Jack?
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00:15:21.200 He's done a great job.
00:15:22.480 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live, Human Events Daily.
00:15:30.080 We're also here on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Network.
00:15:34.480 We're on with Liz Collin of Alpha News, where she's been putting out just a ton of reports.
00:15:41.480 But, you know, we're looking back on the fifth year of the, quote, unquote, racial reckoning of George Floyd, the anniversary of which I believe is Sunday.
00:15:50.540 And now we're seeing this truth that's come out about the dismissed lawsuit defamation case against herself and Alpha News and also Derek Chauvin's response.
00:16:04.520 Liz, can you walk us through that?
00:16:07.700 Yeah.
00:16:08.380 As I was talking about, Jack, with these three stories that we put out recently, we wanted to do this because we knew that this was going to be what was happening again.
00:16:16.840 We see the corporate media continue to poison the public, just desperately cling to this dangerous narrative that just simply is not true.
00:16:24.900 The facts do not add up in this case.
00:16:27.100 It seems like we've, you know, forgotten about how to actually be reporters, especially in Minnesota.
00:16:32.840 But Derek himself, you hear from him in this story, and he very frankly says that Katie Blackwell committed perjury in his state trial.
00:16:41.900 Katie Blackwell was in charge of the training unit at MPD at the time that Chauvin and the three other officers were charged.
00:16:50.460 She takes the stand and she simply says, I do not recognize this technique.
00:16:54.660 No, I do not recognize this technique.
00:16:56.340 I don't know what kind of improvised technique this is.
00:17:00.100 You also have then former police chief now, Madera Arradondo, who has since resurfaced just this last month or so because he's peddling a book.
00:17:08.780 He's selling a book about his leadership, which is really quite a head scratcher.
00:17:13.840 And he still is focused on all of these racial components to this case, again, that don't exist.
00:17:20.840 And these officers have spoken with me very candidly about his, you know, so-called leadership, never once talking to any of these officers involved.
00:17:28.360 And he also admits he never even watched the body camera footage of this case.
00:17:33.100 He made, he says in his own words, the decision right there to fire Derek and the other officers,
00:17:39.180 not actually knowing then that you had George Floyd talking about how he couldn't breathe long before he was on the ground long before.
00:17:47.960 You know, George Floyd himself has to be laid, laid on the ground.
00:17:51.320 He didn't know, obviously, that Thomas Lane called for an ambulance 36 seconds after that took place.
00:17:56.700 That two tau, another officer, was asking, where is that ambulance and sort of upping their, their response.
00:18:03.940 So it's, it's, it's truly amazing to me how so many people choose at this point to remain in the dark about what happened that day back in 2020.
00:18:12.600 Well, and, and, and the officers, the response, and again, psychologically, it's, it's one of these things where people would much rather believe their narratives and a narrative that is repeated ad infinitum and certainly was in 2020.
00:18:30.480 But because it was so polarized at the time, nobody wanted to hear the truth.
00:18:36.440 Now, here we are five years later, and I think people are finally starting to be able to hear it.
00:18:41.580 But unfortunately for Derek Chauvin, it hasn't been, you know, it's, it comes as perhaps good news, but he's actually borne the brunt of it.
00:18:50.660 So while society can move on, he cannot because he's still behind bars.
00:18:54.560 Yeah, and at this point, um, he will remain behind bars for, for more than a decade to, to come.
00:19:02.740 Uh, there were some rumors circulating recently that we, you know, chose not to, to report on, um, because again, it, it seemed almost as a, something being, being stirred by, by the left.
00:19:13.300 But that, uh, President Trump would grant him a federal pardon, um, complicates things a bit as well, because he would still be brought back to Minnesota.
00:19:22.120 And, uh, our governor, Tim Walz, and our attorney general, Keith Ellison, uh, couldn't say enough when those rumors were circulating, how, no, he's going to come back here and, and serve every last, uh, second in prison, in a, in a state prison.
00:19:34.440 Um, but you do see, you know, Jack, and I'm sure you see this as well, just the, the comments and how the tide, I think, has turned quite a bit when it came to this situation.
00:19:44.040 Because I think simply before, uh, people weren't exactly aware of, of what, uh, took place.
00:19:50.640 Um, and so that's what we've been trying to do is, is counter this.
00:19:54.040 And at least there are facts now, and there's no excuse really, you know, not to know.
00:19:58.760 And, and that's always been, been my message all along, you know, question this, uh, information, think for yourself, uh, think critically rather than, um, you know, just, just taking, you know, what, what these people are, are saying for, for the truth.
00:20:12.900 Because see what's in it for them.
00:20:14.660 It's as simple as that.
00:20:15.080 Um, and that's what I think is quite telling.
00:20:17.740 Amen.
00:20:18.520 Liz Collin, we're just about out of time here.
00:20:20.960 Human events.
00:20:21.860 Where can people go to follow you and get access to these new reports?
00:20:25.540 Yeah, you'll find me, uh, Liz Collin on X, uh, and you'll see them, them there.
00:20:30.700 But Alpha News MN on our YouTube channel, or alphanews.org.
00:20:34.540 It's, it's all there, but really appreciate your support.
00:20:36.460 Always, Jack.
00:20:37.060 Thanks for fighting the good fight.
00:20:39.120 Folks, one day they are going to be naming journalism rewards.
00:20:42.900 After Liz Collin, if we are able to actually win this thing, if we're able to win, that's what victory conditions look like.
00:20:52.380 Folks, we'll be right back here at human events.
00:20:54.400 Going to have a deep dive on the big, beautiful bill when we return.
00:20:59.840 Real America's voice and the Salem radio network.
00:21:02.500 Jack was over.
00:21:02.960 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:21:13.540 Where is Jack?
00:21:15.860 Where is he?
00:21:17.140 Jack, I want to see you.
00:21:20.800 Great job, Jack.
00:21:22.220 Thank you.
00:21:22.980 What a job you do.
00:21:24.400 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:21:25.780 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:21:27.880 But we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
00:21:33.040 All right, Jack.
00:21:33.880 So we are back live here, Washington, D.C.
00:21:37.860 You're on Real America's Voice, as well as live on the Salem radio network.
00:21:43.600 Our three Charlie Kirk audience want to welcome them in.
00:21:47.900 We've got a big treat for you guys because there's a lot going on in Washington, D.C.
00:21:52.140 So we had to put this together.
00:21:54.780 Of course, we saw that the big, beautiful bill, President Trump's bill, passed the House
00:22:00.720 last night.
00:22:01.780 Ton of debate passes with one vote actually in at 6 a.m. in the morning.
00:22:07.780 This thing passed.
00:22:08.720 They were held overnight holding these debates.
00:22:13.140 And yet it will soon head over to the Senate.
00:22:16.760 There will be a process of reconciliation, and we're going to see how this all shakes out.
00:22:23.500 And so I wanted to, and because this is a money fight, this is a budget bill, and I wanted
00:22:28.360 to bring on someone who wasn't a politician, someone who doesn't have an R or a D or a representative
00:22:36.040 of a certain place and isn't standing for election, but someone who actually understands
00:22:39.740 the business world and understands the economy in a way that will help us understand what
00:22:46.900 this bill does, doesn't do, could perhaps be made better.
00:22:51.360 And that is Jeff Webb.
00:22:52.740 He's the CEO of the Human Events Media Group and a business entrepreneur in his own right.
00:22:58.540 Jeff, how are you?
00:23:00.660 Jack, great to see you.
00:23:02.640 Yeah, thanks for coming on, man.
00:23:03.500 So when you look at the bill, just give me your sense, you know, just from the hip, do
00:23:08.960 you like it, do you not like it, some parts, other parts?
00:23:12.320 What's your sense of it?
00:23:14.500 The answer is yes.
00:23:16.480 The, you know, it's a start.
00:23:20.280 And if you look at the alternative, which would be to let the, you know, the original tax
00:23:24.640 cuts expire and begin negotiating line by line different bills to try to get them through,
00:23:30.620 which would never happen, I think, I think it's better than that.
00:23:35.280 Is it flawed?
00:23:36.320 Does it have some things that I think could be a lot better?
00:23:38.780 Of course.
00:23:39.720 But, you know, again, this, this is the problem, Jack, with having a very, very slim majority
00:23:46.320 in the House.
00:23:48.220 Individual congressmen, and I'm not even talking about Democrats, Republicans, have a disproportionate
00:23:53.660 say in what a final bill looks like, because just a few of them, as we saw almost happen,
00:23:58.740 could take a particular issue, focus on that, threaten to completely blow up the whole legislation.
00:24:06.520 So they end up getting certain provisions that, that we may not like.
00:24:10.780 And that's, that's what's happened here.
00:24:12.420 You're right about, it's going to be interesting to see what happens when the bill gets to the
00:24:16.220 Senate.
00:24:16.420 But, but I think, you know what, I think it's a start and it does beat the alternative of
00:24:22.200 having nothing.
00:24:22.780 Well, what we know that one of the big pieces of this that came up and social media was,
00:24:28.800 was really firing off on this was the question of the SALT deduction and the SALT cap.
00:24:35.420 And that's something for a lot of my readers and listeners were saying, what is this?
00:24:41.760 You know, why does this matter?
00:24:42.860 Is this a big deal?
00:24:43.740 So I was wondering if I could ask you if you could walk us through the SALT deduction and
00:24:49.200 why it does matter.
00:24:50.160 Sure, well, if you live in a blue state where you have high personal income tax in particular,
00:24:57.940 and you're a high income earner, this is a big day for you, because you're on the way
00:25:05.380 to a payday.
00:25:06.580 If you're in a red state, and in particular, one of the few red states that has no federal
00:25:12.220 income tax, and maybe you're not a high earner.
00:25:15.440 This is really a bad part of the legislation.
00:25:20.620 You know, SALT stands for state and local taxes, and it's designed, it's a carve out,
00:25:28.180 and it's designed to allow individuals in these high income tax states, take New York, New
00:25:34.540 Jersey, California, to deduct from their taxes a good percentage of what they pay in state
00:25:42.680 and local taxes.
00:25:43.680 So if you're in New Jersey, and, you know, you've got high state income taxes, you can
00:25:49.360 take a good percentage of that and deduct whatever you're paying New Jersey from your income at
00:25:56.100 the federal level.
00:25:57.420 Now, if you're not in one of those states, and you don't get that benefit, then in effect,
00:26:03.600 you're kind of subsidizing those people that do.
00:26:05.740 So I think it's a terrible thing.
00:26:08.160 I think anything that pits, I mean, the income tax itself is bad enough as far as just pitting
00:26:13.780 people against each other.
00:26:15.460 But when you get to this level of, you know, of, you know, these issues that are just so
00:26:22.720 targeted to certain individuals, I think it's just suspicable.
00:26:27.060 Hopefully the Senate, I know I've written to my two senators, Bill Haggerty and Marsha Blackburn,
00:26:32.040 to try to reverse this to some extent.
00:26:35.120 But again, you have these congressmen from New York, New Jersey, California, who are threatening
00:26:40.940 to blow up the entire legislation if they didn't get their way here.
00:26:46.260 So that's, you know, that's one of the main provisions that I think is suspect.
00:26:51.760 Hopefully it'll be changed.
00:26:53.400 And this is something, by the way, so the salt cap is something that President Trump had
00:26:56.980 actually said quite low in the original tax bill back in 2017 when it was passed.
00:27:03.000 Those, of course, people know they are coming up for their expiration date.
00:27:06.580 That's one of the main reasons for this bill.
00:27:08.660 It's not the only reason, but it's another thing that's in this bill to keep the tax cuts
00:27:11.640 going to where they are.
00:27:13.080 But this is one provision specifically on a deduction.
00:27:17.060 And it makes sense with the way you explain that, because I know there were a lot of people
00:27:20.080 saying, how does this work?
00:27:22.360 You know, what is the salt?
00:27:23.920 Is that like, you know, what's like one of those, like, no, no, no, it totally makes
00:27:27.900 sense that if you live in one of those high tax blue states, which I know that, and by
00:27:33.500 the way, believe it or not, Jeff, we do have a lot of listeners in blue states.
00:27:37.220 We have a lot of supporters in blue states, you know, and then you got some folks in, you
00:27:42.320 know, where I'm from in Pennsylvania, where it's a purple state.
00:27:44.760 So, you know, it's a, you know, we do have the state income tax, but we've got a lot of
00:27:49.240 people also in places like Florida and Tennessee and Texas, where the personal income taxes
00:27:55.180 is low or doesn't exist.
00:27:56.680 And so that's what the, that's what makes the difference, because it's actually forcing
00:28:01.960 people to who are paying in to the federal government in those red states that don't
00:28:08.680 have the ability to take any deduction because, you know, you can't deduct from zero.
00:28:14.140 So the deduction from zero is nothing.
00:28:16.420 So all your money is going to the federal government and then any money that the federal
00:28:19.880 government receives from those individuals.
00:28:22.640 Well, guess what?
00:28:23.680 When it goes back to those blue states, then it's all coming from the red states, which is 0.88
00:28:28.240 interesting because this is something you hear.
00:28:30.080 Gavin Newsom talks about this all the time.
00:28:31.720 He says, he says, oh, it's the red states that are taking the money.
00:28:34.680 It's the rare subsidizing the red states.
00:28:36.620 He uses this talking point all the time.
00:28:38.620 But where are you, Gavin Newsom, when it comes to salt deduction?
00:28:41.700 Something tells me that he's all for it, isn't he?
00:28:44.140 I think he is.
00:28:45.460 And by the way, here's an idea if you want to make things fair.
00:28:48.640 Why don't we say that if you're, if you're in a red state, that you can take a deduction
00:28:53.420 since you don't, or let's just say you're in Florida, no state income tax.
00:28:57.240 Let's say then that you say, okay, well, I'll be able to deduct my property taxes.
00:29:02.340 How's that?
00:29:03.480 And that way, that way it'll be fair because those states, the red states, most of them had
00:29:08.960 found a way to handle their budgets to the best of their ability without having high
00:29:14.800 income taxes.
00:29:15.980 They do it in different ways.
00:29:17.880 And again, I believe that what the salt, what salt does, it is encourages these states that
00:29:24.740 are inefficient, that are spending way too much money, way beyond their means.
00:29:28.560 It encourages them to keep doing that.
00:29:30.840 It gives them an advantage.
00:29:32.120 So it really does exactly what we don't need.
00:29:36.740 We need more efficiency at all levels of government.
00:29:39.800 And this doesn't work that way.
00:29:42.560 Well, it doesn't.
00:29:44.220 And you're right.
00:29:45.020 You know, that's a perfect example to say, well, why not deduct your property taxes?
00:29:49.940 Why not deduct this?
00:29:51.060 And it's, it's kind of silly when you think about it, because as everyone knows, state taxes
00:29:55.680 go to state government.
00:29:58.080 Federal taxes go to federal government.
00:30:00.560 So any money that's, or any gap in the state budget, of course, is going to be made up
00:30:06.680 from the federal government.
00:30:08.500 So the idea that you're going to be deducting this from your federal taxes, well, they're
00:30:13.260 going to different, it's different pots of money, right?
00:30:15.400 It's a different place.
00:30:16.760 So there's different programs, there's different levels of government that go through it.
00:30:19.440 And by the way.
00:30:20.000 We're kind of subsidizing the blue state, their budgets.
00:30:24.460 I'm not sure anybody's in favor of that.
00:30:26.020 Well, and in addition, I was just going to add that these are the same blue states that
00:30:30.920 a lot of these, a lot of these people, you voted for this, you voted for these governors,
00:30:35.140 you voted for this government in your state that set it up this way.
00:30:38.340 You say, oh, our taxes are too high.
00:30:39.860 Well, then vote against it.
00:30:42.120 You can easily do that.
00:30:43.540 That's exactly the case.
00:30:44.860 But then, of course, you got to feel sorry for those people in those states who didn't
00:30:48.800 vote for those governors or those legislators who voted kind of our way, if you will.
00:30:53.980 And they're kind of stuck with it.
00:30:55.720 But, you know, get more involved, spend more money, do something to change the people who
00:31:01.160 are making those decisions.
00:31:03.420 All right.
00:31:03.920 It's so simple.
00:31:04.540 And so it's a classic example.
00:31:07.800 It sounds cliche, but, you know, do as I say, not as I do, right?
00:31:13.860 So deductions for me, but not for thee.
00:31:17.580 And it's just absolutely classic.
00:31:19.600 And so I do think that that's something.
00:31:21.800 And in fact, I think we're going to make that our question of the day at Human Events.
00:31:25.240 So I want people to go 1776 at humanevents.com, 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:31:31.160 Is the SALT deduction a subsidiary for Democrat governors or blue state governors?
00:31:38.420 So send us your questions, comments, and analysis on that, 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:31:46.300 Jeff, are there any other pieces?
00:31:47.960 Now, I expect this is going to come up in the Senate.
00:31:49.980 Are there any other pieces of the bill do you think that when it gets to the Senate side
00:31:54.640 that they're really going to be getting into the debate over?
00:31:58.840 Well, apparently the kind of the provisions in Medicaid where, you know, able-bodied people
00:32:06.020 are going to be required to work rather than receive the benefit.
00:32:09.980 You know, when you go back and look at the expansion of Medicaid, especially the ramp-up
00:32:16.440 beginning with COVID, where so many people were laid off and out of work and, you know,
00:32:22.360 they kind of game the system and ended up being accepted into Medicaid.
00:32:26.780 I know some examples where there's corruption that involved around that.
00:32:31.780 And, you know, COVID's over, jobs are available, they just haven't gone back.
00:32:39.080 And I've looked up and gone, well, with Medicaid, I've got this, in effect, free insurance.
00:32:43.360 I've got a subsidy.
00:32:45.220 I can probably get a little gig on the side for cash.
00:32:48.280 And then I'll go back to work.
00:32:50.280 I mean, my, this is only anecdotal, but I believe, certainly my experience has been traveling
00:32:55.640 around that in general, people talk about customer service, service industry, jobs, things like
00:33:04.500 it, not what it used to be.
00:33:06.640 And when you talk to many of these establishments, when you say, well, what's happened here?
00:33:11.400 This used to be a place I'd love to come to.
00:33:13.660 There was great service, not only great food or great product or whatever.
00:33:17.240 They all say, we can't get enough people.
00:33:19.160 We can't get people to come back to work.
00:33:22.560 And that's going to have to be, it's going to have to be addressed.
00:33:25.220 Now, in the 11th hour, we've got a heartbreak coming up here in just a couple of seconds.
00:33:32.440 So I want to hold that thought and then get it over to the next side here.
00:33:37.060 You're on with Jeff Webb, business entrepreneur, CEO of Human Events Media Group.
00:33:42.620 We're talking about the big, beautiful bill, the subsidies that are going in and some things
00:33:47.820 that perhaps we wish we weren't funding.
00:33:50.160 Gee, I wonder what else we could do with some of that money.
00:33:51.740 I don't know, build a bridge, fix a road, get people to school, take care of a hospital,
00:33:57.020 just some basic stuff.
00:33:58.640 We'll be right back.
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00:35:31.180 Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.
00:35:33.500 We're on with Jeff Webb, the CEO of the Human Events Media Group, as well as a business
00:35:37.640 entrepreneur.
00:35:38.620 Jeff, one of the things that, and by the way, thank you so much.
00:35:41.720 I'm reading the comments here.
00:35:42.720 People are saying, we had no idea what the SALT deduction was.
00:35:46.120 We didn't understand why it worked.
00:35:47.540 We didn't know if we should be for it or against it.
00:35:49.440 And people are just over the moon about this because they're saying, now I totally get it.
00:35:56.240 This is a joke.
00:35:57.500 And it wasn't until Jeff came on and walked us through that, and he did it in such an
00:36:02.320 expert way that, and in an easy to understand way as well, that people kind of get it now
00:36:07.920 and they say, well, wait a minute.
00:36:08.900 No, I like it the old way where it was, you know, set very, very low.
00:36:13.460 One of the other pieces of this, though, that I know a lot of people have gotten into, Scott
00:36:18.000 Adams has been talking about this on his show, is that unfortunately this will add to the
00:36:23.480 debt, and the debt issue has become a ticking time bomb and really is a debt bomb where we've
00:36:31.360 been spending money, we've been printing money, we've been borrowing money from the Chinese 0.94
00:36:35.760 and the Saudis and others, and unfortunately, there are huge concerns that a lot of people
00:36:41.020 have with the debt.
00:36:44.360 Well, you're right, and I think I wrote a book about this a few years ago, and it's been
00:36:49.660 frustrating because I think people have not focused on the national debt like it needs
00:36:54.800 to be focused on, and Jack, you're exactly right, perfect words, ticking time bomb, and
00:37:01.120 especially for those in the younger generations, you know, people like me, the boomers are going
00:37:06.840 to time out on this, and you're going to be left with this huge nut to crack, and there's
00:37:13.740 not a happy ending there, and unfortunately, this bill does add to the deficit, and how
00:37:21.940 does that, what does that mean?
00:37:23.360 Well, it means interest rates are higher, means who's going to pay, I mean, if you're, if you
00:37:28.440 own a home, and you're spending money, and you're, and you're, or you're, you're running
00:37:32.880 your credit cards up, I mean, you're getting that interest, eventually you have to pay the
00:37:36.900 principal back too, and there aren't very many pleasant ways to do that, and I'm hoping,
00:37:43.400 I'm hoping, President Trump has talked about it, I'm hoping once we get this bill in, and
00:37:48.080 if we get it passed, that we're going to put some things in place that also begin to address
00:37:53.380 that debt, because again, it reflects itself in highest interest rates, you know, the whole
00:37:59.760 generation of young people who are having a hard time buying a home, getting a loan with
00:38:06.300 an interest rate that, that makes it attractive, this is one of the things that reflects this,
00:38:12.020 this large net, national debt, that's getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger, so I'm glad
00:38:16.980 you bring it up, it's, it's something that has to be addressed, it has to.
00:38:23.360 Jeff, let people know while you're on here, and we've got you coast to coast on the Salem
00:38:27.360 Radio Network, let people know, by the way, you mentioned the book, tell people the name
00:38:31.560 of the book, and where they can get it.
00:38:32.800 Well, it's, it, it, the, the book, well, you can, you can find it on Amazon, in fact,
00:38:38.340 let me, let me, let me, let me hold the copy up right here, if you gave me the chance,
00:38:43.080 it's called American Restoration, and the, the subtitle is How to Unshackle the Great Middle 1.00
00:38:48.460 Class, and it talks about, I grew up in the middle class, and, um, probably lower middle
00:38:54.020 class, and it talks about the things, the everyday issues that people need to be focusing on
00:38:59.240 that have an impact on the middle class. One of the things that has set this country,
00:39:03.380 Jeff, hold it, hold it up again, by the way, hold it up real quick.
00:39:05.620 Okay, yep, hold the book up. Yep.
00:39:08.840 The book, yeah, you want to see, so people can see it, there it is, American Restoration,
00:39:13.480 Unshackle the Great Middle, and, and Jeff, you wrote this even before President Trump returned
00:39:18.180 to office, and now it, would you say that he's pursuing the right kind of policies to actually
00:39:23.220 do that? I think in general, he is. Uh, it also, it, it also addresses things, I know,
00:39:29.420 near and dear to your heart, like, uh, endless foreign wars, and how we have sent generations
00:39:35.020 of young people off to die in these, in the, in the sands of the Middle East and other places
00:39:39.320 for nothing, and I think we're really beginning to get our arms around that now, but in general,
00:39:44.240 I think, I think on most of these issues, President Trump's on the right track.
00:39:47.940 Well, I, I think that's fantastic, and, and, and this is amazing because it's, it, it's
00:39:54.160 populism, what we're talking about. This is the, this is, it's, it's conservative ideals,
00:39:58.320 but understanding that the conservative ideals don't mean anything if they're not actually
00:40:03.420 helping people. If that, none of this stuff means anything. If you're not actually helping
00:40:07.560 the people of the country, they're the ones who make the country work, they're the ones who
00:40:13.320 make our companies run, that make our, that work in our enterprises, and that are ultimately
00:40:17.640 served by it. Jeff, if people want more information, is there a place they can go
00:40:22.000 to follow you, or just to get the book? Uh, you know, well, go to Amazon to get the
00:40:26.740 book, and they can reach me at jwebb at humanevents.com. There you go. All right,
00:40:32.060 folks, he's putting his email out. Jeff Webb walking us through the ticking time
00:40:37.140 bombs, but also the potential opportunities in the big, beautiful bill. Ladies and 1.00
00:40:43.260 gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.
00:40:47.640 Have a great day.
00:41:02.580 Have a great day.