Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - The United States is Vulnerable to Drone Attack and the Deep State is Escalating Towards World War 3

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.800 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.460 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.540 Christ is here.

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00:01:15.520 President Donald Trump's been working the phones and social media trying to get Republicans

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00:01:46.540 Tensions were high yesterday after the leader of the government's far-right party

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00:01:56.980 Ukraine and Russia today met for the second time in two weeks to discuss peace,

00:02:01.480 but walked away without any progress toward ending the war.

00:02:04.860 The fighting is as intense as ever.

00:02:06.980 And this weekend, Ukraine launched an unprecedented attack, 0.77

00:02:10.800 launching drones deep inside Russia to target Russian bombers.

00:02:16.520 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.

00:02:22.060 Today is June 3rd, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:02:25.280 Another Ukrainian attack on the Kurtz Strait Bridge.

00:02:29.040 This is the key bridge connecting Crimea to the Russian homeland, the Russian mainland.

00:02:39.040 And this bridge has been targeted multiple times throughout the war.

00:02:43.740 Ukrainians this time attacking it with an underwater bomb, we're told.

00:02:47.720 In the past, they used a terrorist-style attack with a truck bomb,

00:02:51.220 killing the trucker that had been smuggled in across essentially the back route into Crimea.

00:03:02.320 This likely employed the use of underwater unmanned vehicles, essentially seaborne drones,

00:03:10.240 in order to get the bomb to where it was.

00:03:12.420 Now, the piling...

00:03:17.720 An emergency drone attack, which took place reportedly on Russian strategic bombers,

00:03:22.760 part of their nuclear cryad, over the weekend.

00:03:26.560 And what we need to understand is separate the fact from fiction here.

00:03:30.980 There are forces within the West, forces within NATO.

00:03:35.380 There are forces, yes, within Western governments to include the United States and United Kingdom

00:03:42.200 that do not want this war and all of these wars to end.

00:03:47.460 Did you think that they would just let you end the war?

00:03:51.680 Did they think that they would just let peace win?

00:03:54.500 There's no money in peace.

00:03:56.060 There's no profit in peace.

00:03:58.880 What big military and big war wants is more.

00:04:02.580 And they don't care if World War III kicks off because they sit back and say,

00:04:07.740 well, guess what?

00:04:08.840 We can sell munitions to both sides.

00:04:11.260 The world just woke up over the weekend to the massive drone vulnerabilities

00:04:16.940 that all of our Air Force fleets now face.

00:04:21.280 It's not just the Russians. 0.52

00:04:23.660 Guess who else is vulnerable to that?

00:04:25.020 I said on Twitter yesterday, what happens when the Chinese drones take off from all of the farmland

00:04:32.620 that they purchased right next to our Air Force bases

00:04:35.480 and the targeting that they have from the balloon that the Chinese flew across our strategic bases?

00:04:42.180 Are you waking up?

00:04:44.000 The United States of America is currently vulnerable, 1.00

00:04:48.040 and these idiots in Washington are escalating us towards World War III. 1.00

00:04:55.020 This is ridiculous. 1.00

00:04:56.720 It is irresponsible. 0.99

00:04:58.400 And they are sitting back and acting like it's a joke,

00:05:02.340 like it's all some kind of game.

00:05:03.880 This isn't a game.

00:05:04.980 This is all of our lives.

00:05:06.620 This is our family's lives.

00:05:08.100 This is our children's lives,

00:05:09.620 the lives of our generation and the generations to come.

00:05:13.960 We will stop this war, 0.87

00:05:17.200 and we're not going to stop talking about it.

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00:05:48.340 The deep state escalating us towards World War III,

00:05:53.580 as the United States is vulnerable,

00:05:56.040 and our fleets are vulnerable to drone swarm attack.

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00:07:01.220 I'm very excited now.

00:07:02.840 We're going to be doing an entire intel briefing on what's going on vis-a-vis Ukraine.

00:07:07.620 And what better way to do that than to bring on one of our best military analysts,

00:07:13.620 at least in terms of guests on the show.

00:07:15.660 We have some hosts around here that are pretty good at the military analysis stuff as well.

00:07:19.080 Folks, it's Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.

00:07:20.640 Hey, Jack.

00:07:22.860 Good to see you.

00:07:24.720 Tony, I've got to ask you.

00:07:26.220 So these attacks that Ukraine has been conducting in what would be considered non-battlefield targets,

00:07:32.480 I think, back in the Russian, deep within Russian lines, behind Russian lines,

00:07:38.660 the Kerch Strait Bridge, I believe this is the third time it's been attacked since the war has commenced,

00:07:44.600 these Russian bombers.

00:07:45.940 Now, here's an interesting question.

00:07:48.540 The attacks get a lot of headlines, but as an intel officer or even back when I was a junior intel analyst,

00:07:54.360 the first question that I have after I see a strike like this is BDA.

00:07:58.040 What's the BDA?

00:07:59.120 That was the training that I always received.

00:08:00.920 What is the battle damage assessment?

00:08:03.280 Is this operational?

00:08:04.460 Is it inoperational?

00:08:05.820 Is it repairable?

00:08:07.220 Is it still at full capacity?

00:08:08.700 Is that diminished capacity?

00:08:09.880 How long is it going to take to get it back online?

00:08:11.820 Or do we have total destruction?

00:08:13.100 And in some of these cases, it feels like the headlines are a little bit separated from the reality that's actually on the ground.

00:08:21.260 Tony, what's your read on it?

00:08:23.100 Well, the first thing you have to do to get to the BDA is get through the propaganda.

00:08:28.720 And so what you've seen is, no doubt, this was a masterful attack.

00:08:34.740 I'm not going to diminish the amount of gumption and planning it took to get those drones into those targets all the way to Siberia.

00:08:44.300 But with that said, we have to evaluate what we see.

00:08:50.940 A lot of the footage we've been given is from dates not relevant to this one.

00:08:56.640 That is to say, the videos of the strikes aren't necessarily related to the spiderweb project.

00:09:05.880 They're old or from different locations from different times.

00:09:09.160 And what I'm seeing is an amplification primarily by the British media to make everybody believe there was something like $7 to $9 billion of damage done.

00:09:22.620 I've seen that figure.

00:09:23.680 It's like, yeah, that's not relevant.

00:09:26.640 Was there significant damage done?

00:09:28.140 Yeah, they hit a significant number of Tu-95 Barabombers, which are part of the strategic nuclear force of the Russian nuclear triad.

00:09:42.420 So was that significant?

00:09:43.440 Yeah.

00:09:44.240 But it wasn't anywhere near as significant as we were being led to believe.

00:09:49.280 So we can't even get to the BDA until we figure out what exactly the damage was, because we're not really being told what it was.

00:09:59.680 And secondly, why are we not being told?

00:10:01.880 Well, the amplification here, Jack, is because we are supposed to buy into this idea as Americans that the Ukrainians, oh, yeah, they can still beat the Russians.

00:10:13.120 They're not licked.

00:10:15.060 And if they can do this with $40 million, imagine what they could do with several more billion.

00:10:21.300 In other words, they're trying to both disrupt the peace process, which we know they're doing openly, and trying to eventually convince us, the United States, that the Biden policy was the correct policy to give them unlimited money.

00:10:35.620 And I do a lot of research.

00:10:37.300 You know that.

00:10:37.840 I do a lot of show prep.

00:10:38.840 But there's constant videos on YouTube talking about how brave the Ukrainian soldiers are and how they've adapted technology.

00:10:49.120 So there's a full-blown charm campaign against us, focused on us.

00:10:55.740 So this fifth-generation warfare, it's being directed on us.

00:11:00.220 Lindsey Graham's part of it.

00:11:01.480 I just don't think it's going to work.

00:11:02.800 Yeah, once again, we see that one side is winning in the information narrative.

00:11:12.800 One side is winning the information war.

00:11:15.460 And another side is winning the actual war on the ground.

00:11:19.040 Right.

00:11:19.300 Because when I go and look at the front lines over in eastern Ukraine, when I look at Donetsk, Lugansk, or some of these areas of Sumay or around Kharkov, other areas that have been under dispute between the Russians and the Ukrainians, I don't see the Ukrainians making advances on the battlefield.

00:11:36.140 I see the Russians making advances and, and by the way, not in these huge, you know, the, the, the barrel runs, the blitzkrieg attacks that you would see from an American military perspective or NATO perspective.

00:11:49.000 It is slow encirclement operations and slowly and slowly grinding them down.

00:11:54.340 So let me hit that because I see this constant, um, demunition by certain voices within conservative media about how effective the Russians are.

00:12:07.060 Jack Keene was on the other day talking about almost dismissive.

00:12:10.240 Oh, they've, uh, they've been fighting to take Ukraine for the past three years and it's, and they're still not doing it.

00:12:17.700 It's like, uh, Jack, that's not what they're trying to do.

00:12:20.440 This is, this is not a war of maneuver.

00:12:22.320 This is not a war of blitzkrieg, it's a war of attrition.

00:12:26.160 And the Russian objective is to degrade and de, uh, de, uh, um, basically, uh, uh, this, uh, um, demilitarize Ukraine and the West. 0.51

00:12:40.560 So that's what they're doing.

00:12:42.140 Uh, they're doing it slow and methodic because the Ukrainians keep throwing stuff against their defenses and degrade and, and lose it. 1.00

00:12:49.180 So why?

00:12:49.900 It's, it's attrition warfare.

00:12:51.440 And we don't, we don't understand attrition warfare because we don't practice that.

00:12:55.500 So when Jack says they're not winning, it's like, you don't understand what they're doing if you say that.

00:13:00.020 And that, that's a bad sign.

00:13:01.120 Right.

00:13:02.120 So they've created, they've created essentially a position where they, they can take, take up, um, strong, strong positions in the East.

00:13:12.700 And rather than focus on taking land, the focus is actually on detriting and attriting the Ukrainian military.

00:13:21.780 Exactly.

00:13:22.380 Because they know that it doesn't matter how much, uh, how many weapons and artillery and ammunition and the rest of it.

00:13:29.480 And I would look, I was just in the region.

00:13:30.960 I was in Jezhov, Poland, which is right on the border.

00:13:32.900 My family lives right on the Ukrainian border with Poland.

00:13:36.360 We were just there a week ago.

00:13:38.400 And, and all of that ammunition, the NATO, the, the NATO supplies that are running through Jezhov and then also through Romania and other spots into, uh, into Ukraine.

00:13:48.260 That's that.

00:13:49.200 Okay.

00:13:49.480 Even if that didn't stop.

00:13:50.680 And of course, that's another piece of this as well with president regarding president Trump.

00:13:54.120 On the other side of it is that doesn't matter if you don't have the soldiers because it requires soldiers to hold land.

00:14:01.040 There is, there are no amount of drones that can actually hold territory and occupy territory.

00:14:07.380 That's not how that works.

00:14:08.620 There's incredible things you can do with technology, but it doesn't matter how many Starlinks you have or how many drones you have.

00:14:14.020 You cannot hold territory without soldiers.

00:14:17.300 And so what the Russian military is doing is saying, well, we may not have the technological advantage, but we do have the, not the battlefield advantage in terms of numbers.

00:14:28.400 So that's what our focus is on.

00:14:30.320 We're not going to fight the technology.

00:14:31.740 We're going to fight the soldiers.

00:14:34.420 Tony Schaefer, we've got a quick break coming up, but I want to hold you over because this is so important and people need to understand the danger of the escalation here.

00:14:44.040 If we climb up that escalatory ladder with the Russians and walk away from these, this peace deal, which I think is it's in the works, but I keep saying this, this is not going to break. 1.00

00:14:56.680 The deadlock will not be broken.

00:14:58.380 The loggerheads are the situation right now until president Trump and president Putin are able to hash this out together.

00:15:06.320 Quick break, right back.

00:15:07.680 Jack Posobiec, Salem Radio Network, Real America's Voice.

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00:15:32.920 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.

00:15:36.000 We're on with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.

00:15:37.700 We're talking about the war of attrition in Ukraine and the propaganda war that is being waged across the information outlets right now.

00:15:47.700 Ukraine is currently winning the information war.

00:15:50.880 But the question is, are they winning the war of attrition?

00:15:53.860 And the war of attrition works like this.

00:15:56.360 It's not about taking land.

00:15:58.440 It's about taking lives.

00:16:01.340 And so when people look at the map on a day-to-day basis, they'll say, wait a minute, Russia can't be winning.

00:16:06.200 Look, Ukraine has held them to this pocket in the east. 0.75

00:16:10.920 Well, the question on the other side is, perhaps, but which side has more lives?

00:16:16.080 One side has many more than the other.

00:16:19.800 I'm going to bring Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer on here.

00:16:21.780 Tony, is this what the Russians' goal has been all along when they talk about demilitarization?

00:16:29.080 Yes, they want these provinces, but they're also not sending, and we saw this, by the way, with some strategic drawdowns in places like Kherson switching to the other side of the river where the resupply is more advantageous to them because, obviously, it just shares the land border with Russia.

00:16:45.900 Rather than have to go across the river, they're sitting on one side of it, and every time the Ukrainians attempt to cross the Dnepr, they are met with a massive onslaught and barrage.

00:16:55.740 This has been their strategy for the last couple of years, and they seem to believe time is on their side.

00:17:00.660 I'll just throw another anecdote.

00:17:02.880 I sat down with Prime Minister Viktor Orban last week in Budapest in his presidential palace and the prime minister's residence, and absolutely honored to be there.

00:17:13.300 And he told me that he went to the Russians and said, will you sue for peace?

00:17:21.080 And the Russians told him, well, we're winning, and we have time on our side. 0.53

00:17:24.900 And then he went to the Ukrainians and said, will you choose peace?

00:17:28.120 And they told him, we're winning, and time is on our side.

00:17:31.900 He said, okay.

00:17:33.000 Tony, which side is right?

00:17:34.060 Well, if they both persist in that attitude, I think it's time for us to decide.

00:17:41.780 Time is time for us to leave.

00:17:44.160 But that's not your question.

00:17:45.480 Your question is, who's winning?

00:17:46.500 I think the Russians are winning, and not by a little, by a lot.

00:17:50.860 To your point, the Russians, and let me phrase it as a question.

00:17:55.620 Why would you expose yourself to extended risk by sending folks forward in offensive operations, which expose you to additional drones, additional, like you point out, doing river crossings, you become vulnerable.

00:18:12.180 Why do that when you're basically facing an enemy who is badly advised, badly led? 0.98

00:18:17.040 Frankly, people like Mark Milley, a rocket scientist, if I ever met one, is telling you stupid things, not giving you the right strategy. 0.93

00:18:27.120 Why would you want to expose yourself to risk if you could just sit back and let them come wave after wave on your strength and lose? 0.96

00:18:36.240 I would argue, by doing this, they're going to basically leave Ukraine a rump state by the fact that it'll be not only demilitarized, it'll be depopulated.

00:18:52.460 The Russians have an order of magnitude more men and resources to throw at this, and they're just sitting there. 0.96

00:18:58.220 And so the more Ukraine throws their stuff in there, they have their time, the more they lose time and lose resources.

00:19:05.540 So I don't think it's close.

00:19:07.560 I think the Russians, should they choose to use, implement a military solution on this, they could be done by July or August.

00:19:17.820 This, and by the way, this is summer, and two summers ago, Ukraine was talking about their massive counteroffensive.

00:19:25.160 Tony, the Russians could be poised for a major breakout right now. 0.99

00:19:29.040 Remember that?

00:19:29.360 We said this is not going to work.

00:19:32.080 Do you think the Russians are poised for a breakout right now? 0.58

00:19:35.540 I think if they choose to break out, absolutely.

00:19:38.520 I don't think they're going to choose to break out.

00:19:40.020 I think they're going to allow the remainder of Biden-approved materiel and equipment to show up over the next 30 days, get to probably the 1st of July.

00:19:51.100 And then once that's done, by the way, the Russians notice already that with less patriot air defense systems, less stuff to stop their drones, they're being more effective.

00:20:04.940 So why risk going at the Ukrainian strength when the Russians know it's just a matter of time before they run out of stuff?

00:20:15.300 The Russians are going to hang back, Jack, and they're going to hit at the time of their choosing. 1.00

00:20:20.620 And I think if things aren't resolved, if President Trump doesn't get Putin and Zelensky into a room and sit them down and try to talk reason with them,

00:20:29.960 the Russians will decide in about 30 days probably to go on a breakout towards mid to late July.

00:20:39.660 And I think they will implement a military solution to this.

00:20:45.180 And I don't think they want all Ukraine. 1.00

00:20:46.920 They want what they have.

00:20:48.480 They want to turn those into Russian provinces and be done with it. 0.84

00:20:51.940 Wow.

00:20:52.600 Lieutenant Colonel Schaefer, we're just about out of time.

00:20:54.820 What a note to end on.

00:20:55.800 Where can people follow you?

00:20:56.600 T-Spooky on Twitter and then ProjectSentinel.com.

00:21:02.780 Thanks, Jack.

00:21:03.320 Always enjoy our conversations.

00:21:05.940 Absolutely incredible.

00:21:07.220 Please come back soon.

00:21:08.740 Quick break.

00:21:09.220 Right back.

00:21:14.720 Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:17.320 Where is Jack?

00:21:19.640 Where is he?

00:21:20.920 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:24.580 Great job, Jack.

00:21:25.980 Thank you.

00:21:26.840 What a job you do.

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00:21:33.440 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:21:35.460 All right, Jack, we're so big back.

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00:23:07.280 I talked about being in Hungary last week and meeting with Prime Minister Orban.

00:23:12.520 It was an incredible event.

00:23:14.180 We were honored to be there.

00:23:15.100 I was certainly honored to be there.

00:23:16.540 But Kevin Posobiec was also there because he was doing some on-the-ground reporting.

00:23:21.920 Turns out that in Hungary, there's now a referendum going on nationwide should Ukraine be allowed into the European Union.

00:23:32.620 And this vote is going to be taking place very soon here in Hungary.

00:23:37.180 Kevin Posobiec was on the scene to collect some interviews.

00:23:41.160 Here's what we got.

00:23:41.740 Hey, it's Kevin Posobiec, live in Budapest, Hungary.

00:23:45.600 And we're here at the park today to see if we can get a couple people on screen for Vox 2025.

00:23:53.500 It's the Hungarian consensus to see whether or not Ukraine should or shouldn't join the EU.

00:23:59.000 Let's see what we can get into.

00:24:06.720 You don't, you can't agree with me because you don't know.

00:24:09.920 Ah, communism.

00:24:10.840 Basically, I'm not against Ukraine joining the EU, but the question is that when?

00:24:21.260 Well, I'm rather against.

00:24:24.100 Okay.

00:24:24.480 And on what conditions, you know?

00:24:27.900 That's a smart answer.

00:24:28.500 I think that's the most important question now.

00:24:31.860 Not the yes or no alone, but the conditions.

00:24:35.940 He doesn't have a very good reputation anymore, Zelensky.

00:24:38.440 I would happen to agree with you.

00:24:39.560 Is now the right time?

00:24:48.340 Should Ukraine join or should we let them join or wait a little longer?

00:24:53.640 That seems to be the consensus that we've gathered so far.

00:24:56.540 You know, we're just getting through COVID.

00:24:58.640 We're still getting through the war with Russia.

00:25:01.040 I don't think they should join or be allowed to join.

00:25:03.760 The people here in Budapest seem to have spoken and we'd like to see an end to the war.

00:25:10.100 We'd like to see peace treaties and we'd like Zelensky to really grow up. 1.00

00:25:14.800 And if anything, learn how to wear a suit before he does any negotiations in the future.

00:25:21.780 All right, there you have it.

00:25:23.040 That's Kevin Posobiec finding out that the people of Hungary are actually not interested

00:25:27.400 in having Ukraine join the EU and obviously talking about NATO as well.

00:25:33.240 We saw the win of the huge nationalist victory in Poland just a few days ago, where the candidate

00:25:40.800 Nowrowski, who won, also campaigned on not allowing Ukraine into NATO or the EU.

00:25:46.440 Dr. Steve Turley joins us now to discuss this and all things geopolitical.

00:25:52.100 Dr. Turley, we've seen these escalations over the past 24, 48 hours regarding these attacks

00:26:01.780 in Russia by Ukraine on strategic bombers, as well as this key transportation node, obviously

00:26:09.980 a civilian node of the Kerch Strait Bridge.

00:26:12.840 But flipping back to it and looking at the situation, the huge push is against Ukraine

00:26:18.560 being in NATO and really a push for peace talks.

00:26:22.240 Where does this all shake out?

00:26:24.700 Why are we still seeing a massive push for World War III?

00:26:29.580 Oh my, yeah.

00:26:31.880 Wow, you just have so much in that question.

00:26:35.160 Why are we seeing the push in the end?

00:26:37.220 Because we are seeing neocons mourn over the prospect of their dying liberal international

00:26:44.760 order.

00:26:46.080 And NATO is intrinsic to that order.

00:26:49.780 NATO is more or less the globalist police force that enforces the order that comes from

00:26:58.320 the three major globalist institutions of the IMF, the WTO, the World Bank.

00:27:04.580 That's what gave us our kind of rules-based order.

00:27:08.320 And when all is said and done, I think we could make the argument.

00:27:12.700 Certainly, it seems that the people that were interviewed would agree with this.

00:27:17.040 But Ukraine more or less became a proxy for that order.

00:27:21.140 They became a proxy for this Victoria Nuland State Department, particularly after 2014 and

00:27:29.220 the overthrow of the Yanukovych government with the Maidan Revolution.

00:27:34.940 And so there really isn't an independent Kiev responding to the will of the people.

00:27:41.020 It's just a puppet of this larger globalist matrix that Trump is basically shattering as

00:27:48.560 we speak.

00:27:49.220 He's called repeatedly NATO obsolete.

00:27:52.180 He's consigning the WTO to total obsolescence with the emergence of his bilateral trade agreements

00:28:00.580 and tariff policies and the like.

00:28:02.780 The IMF isn't playing much of a role anymore.

00:28:05.160 The World Bank isn't playing much of a role.

00:28:06.840 So by what's the only way you could try to resurrect the relevance of these institutions,

00:28:14.140 trigger Article 5.

00:28:15.660 That will somehow get NATO and supposedly the world at guards, this liberal international

00:28:22.280 order, back resurrected.

00:28:25.360 And so I think they're trying to goad Putin into bombing a NATO country and at least putting

00:28:32.940 Article 5 on the table.

00:28:34.840 I don't think he's going to bite.

00:28:36.040 I don't think he's going to take it.

00:28:37.220 And I don't think most Europeans buy into this.

00:28:41.260 I think they recognize, as you just demonstrated there, I think they recognize that when they're

00:28:47.400 dealing with Zelensky and Ukraine, they're not dealing with an actual democratic country.

00:28:52.740 Heck, I don't even, when's the last time they had an election?

00:28:54.760 What, 2019?

00:28:55.860 They're not dealing with a democratic country.

00:28:57.360 They're dealing with a proxy for globalist interests.

00:29:00.700 And this is what it's all about, because we've seen this rejection of globalism now in Poland,

00:29:09.340 huge rejections of globalism in Hungary, obviously here in the United States, a massive

00:29:15.180 rejection of globalism.

00:29:16.560 But President Trump's election was also predicated on this idea of ending the march towards World

00:29:22.580 War III, and yet we still see many of these elements within, whether it be the intelligence

00:29:27.680 community, whether it be elements of the military industrial complex in the United States, or

00:29:32.960 really the Five Eyes community writ large, which, you know, and I'm going viral now for

00:29:39.000 a clip I did on War Room yesterday with Steve Bannon saying that there's no way that Ukraine

00:29:44.080 would be able to carry out these bombing campaigns, especially these deep targets within Russia

00:29:50.000 without the knowledge or perhaps and likely the coordination of the Five Eyes intelligence

00:29:55.460 apparatus, because that's the only way you could get the strategic real-time targeting

00:29:59.920 information that you would need only provided by satellites.

00:30:03.400 And only the US and the UK have access to that and capability of that kind of technology,

00:30:09.520 you know, unless Starlink is, they all secretly have cameras on them.

00:30:13.140 And maybe Elon's just helping them on the side.

00:30:14.920 I don't think so.

00:30:16.280 But Dr. Turley, do you view this as a potential wedge and attempt to break down these peace

00:30:23.940 talks?

00:30:25.780 Absolutely.

00:30:26.560 As a matter of fact, I saw that spot on the War Room.

00:30:29.580 I think I even retweeted it.

00:30:30.920 It was brilliant.

00:30:32.580 Yeah, I do.

00:30:34.040 Because the peace talks mean the end of the liberal international order.

00:30:37.820 Because these peace talks, I think we all recognize, these are going to be settled on Russia's 0.91

00:30:42.140 terms.

00:30:43.160 Russia is going to keep 20% of the territory. 0.90

00:30:45.940 There's no way around.

00:30:46.600 They've got the Donbass.

00:30:47.780 They've got Kherson.

00:30:48.760 They've got Zaporozhia. 0.77

00:30:50.020 And of course, they've got Crimea.

00:30:51.400 That's not going away.

00:30:54.020 And the European leaders from, well, originally Boris Johnson, now to Keir Starmer,

00:31:01.620 they're, Macron, they're all saying, no, you know, at the beginning, they were all saying,

00:31:05.120 no, we could even get Crimea.

00:31:06.280 We're going to take Crimea back. 0.62

00:31:08.000 It's all nonsense.

00:31:09.220 It's all, I mean, Russia has fortified itself in 20% of Ukraine for right or for wrong. 0.77

00:31:17.540 I'm being purely descriptive, not prescriptive.

00:31:20.260 That is just the reality of it.

00:31:22.000 If we're conservatives, we want to deal with reality, right?

00:31:24.480 And so I think that Trump has made exactly what you said.

00:31:29.520 He was not voted in to escalate this conflict.

00:31:33.960 He was voted in to de-escalate it.

00:31:36.220 And, unfortunately, I think there's so many neocon Cold War mentality, you know, forces

00:31:46.660 within the deep state and within the military-industrial complex to basically do what they can to try

00:31:55.940 to prevent that from happening.

00:31:57.740 If they could stretch this out another four years and maybe get a Democrat in, maybe they

00:32:02.480 can reignite or try to reignite this liberal international order.

00:32:06.500 But as far as I see it, it's over.

00:32:08.320 It's dead.

00:32:09.120 It's gone.

00:32:09.820 It's gone from the hearts and minds of the vast majority of Westerners.

00:32:14.460 It's certainly gone as far as China is concerned, Russia is concerned, India is concerned, increasingly

00:32:19.840 Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates.

00:32:24.400 And I think it's just a matter of time before it'll be gone in Washington, D.C.

00:32:28.320 But until then, how much damage are they going to do in the meantime?

00:32:33.580 Well, I think that's right.

00:32:34.200 And we're up against a quick break here.

00:32:35.560 But one of the interesting, and we'll talk about this in the next segment, one of the

00:32:38.140 interesting takeaways I think I have from President Trump's recent dust-up with the South Africans

00:32:43.880 is that Trump, I think, instinctively understands.

00:32:47.560 Obviously, he cares about the specific issue of the genocide that's taking place in South

00:32:52.280 Africa, but also he's looking at the world through the new lens of multipolarity.

00:32:57.860 Who is the greatest potential parallel structure to the West?

00:33:01.980 Well, it's BRICS. 0.87

00:33:03.060 And who is, of course, the weakest link in BRICS?

00:33:06.180 It's South Africa.

00:33:07.620 So that's why he's targeting them.

00:33:10.200 There's a key geostrategic element to all of this that I think everyone's missing, that

00:33:16.040 this is a way for him to, now, is he going as hard as he could?

00:33:20.660 No, but he's certainly picking at a wound that he knows will create issues for the Chinese, 0.98

00:33:28.540 will create issues for the Russians as well.

00:33:31.560 Why?

00:33:32.100 Because he's locked in negotiations with both of them.

00:33:35.780 People don't look at these things in multiple dimensions, but that's always been one of President

00:33:41.320 Trump's strengths, multidimensional thinking.

00:33:44.460 That if you target the South Africans and put pressure on them, that it indirectly puts, 0.67

00:33:51.620 creates leverage on China and Russia as well.

00:33:54.400 Because remember, the S in BRICS is South Africa.

00:33:58.920 Jack Posobiec, Dr. Steve Turley, breaking down everything, hopefully, that's going on in the

00:34:05.200 world and having some fun while we do it.

00:34:07.920 Quick break.

00:34:08.400 We'll be right back.

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00:35:41.140 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:35:47.440 Jack Posobiec, we're back live here at Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.

00:35:51.000 We're on with Dr. Steve Turley, and we're the host of Turley Talks.

00:35:55.540 And we're also going through how President Trump is guiding the United States through the lens of not just the Ukraine war,

00:36:04.380 but also the Israel-Gaza conflict where the administration, and I posted a video yesterday on X,

00:36:12.120 has been involved with sending aid to the people of Gaza, but also working with both sides there.

00:36:19.740 Of course, we had been pushing for ceasefire early on, the return of the hostages.

00:36:24.940 But, Dr. Turley, what we're seeing, though, and you just mentioned, you hit the nail on the head,

00:36:29.240 these peace talks represent the end of the international liberal order.

00:36:35.740 President Trump, I believe, understands this and is guiding the United States through this thicket,

00:36:42.800 this jungle, and setting us up to be in a position where we do have Fortress America,

00:36:48.120 where we are strengthened in this new international multipolarity world,

00:36:54.200 where we are economically strong, we are no longer dependent on the system of globalization,

00:36:59.820 and we can stand on our own two feet.

00:37:03.960 And if you look at his various moves, it seems to be that he's what he's setting up the United States for.

00:37:10.640 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you'll notice what's so different from what he's doing,

00:37:14.680 what other his predecessors have done.

00:37:16.540 He's not going through the UN. He's not going through the IMF.

00:37:20.000 He's not going through the WTO.

00:37:21.340 He's not going through the world, but he's not going through any international mediary institution.

00:37:26.460 He is dealing with nations one-on-one, quite literally, in the Oval Office.

00:37:32.520 One of our subscribers said, you know,

00:37:35.080 would it be cool for Trump to do fireside chats like FDR used to do or something?

00:37:40.620 And another one remarked, he already is.

00:37:43.620 It's called Zelensky sitting in the other chair, Ramaphosa sitting in the other chair.

00:37:48.320 Those are his fireside chats.

00:37:49.840 He is dealing with nations bilaterally, one-by-one.

00:37:54.120 But the two major ones, the two other poles in this multipolar world, of course, is Russia and China.

00:38:01.400 And this is great power politics.

00:38:03.400 Again, there's no mediators or anything like this.

00:38:05.700 It's one-on-one.

00:38:06.620 But at the same time, and you hit the nail on the head in this one, he's also doing his best to pick off any kind of allies that they might get in their sort of parallel world, their parallel structure that's being formed in BRICS, which is basically a parallel G7.

00:38:24.080 And about 50% of the world's energy is coming from BRICS countries right now.

00:38:28.360 One country that was supposed to join was Saudi Arabia.

00:38:32.120 But somehow Trump was very effective in telling Mohammed bin Salman, hey, why don't we do business together?

00:38:39.840 We're going to be far more prosperous together with you having unlimited access, the number one mark in the world, than if you're working with Russia and China. 0.71

00:38:47.760 And so many people were saying he did it.

00:38:50.320 And the media was criticizing him for, why are you going to the Middle East?

00:38:54.720 Why are you going to the Saudis?

00:38:55.960 Why are you talking to the Qataris?

00:38:57.400 Why are you doing all this?

00:38:58.200 Because they don't understand the moves that he is making because he's so far ahead of them on this chessboard.

00:39:05.100 And they are totally still locked into this mindset of the unipolar moment.

00:39:11.220 By the way, you're going to love this.

00:39:13.160 I don't know if you caught this.

00:39:14.200 But so I went and I spoke in Poland.

00:39:16.240 I gave this speech.

00:39:16.960 But a few weeks prior to me, they had sent Obama over, as well as Valerie Jarrett and Huma Abedin, Junior Soros.

00:39:24.540 But do you know who else they actually sent over with them?

00:39:27.020 I kid you not.

00:39:28.080 Francis Fukuyama himself.

00:39:30.080 No.

00:39:30.880 Himself was actually on the ground.

00:39:33.420 Mr. The End of History, the United States is won, and the International Order.

00:39:37.960 Can you believe it?

00:39:38.920 Can you believe it?

00:39:40.540 Also, the author of Second Thoughts.

00:39:43.200 He did write Second Thoughts afterwards.

00:39:45.600 Yeah, I mean, you couldn't have scripted that.

00:39:49.500 Talk about the Addams Family of globalism.

00:39:52.180 I mean, there you have it.

00:39:53.420 Wow.

00:39:54.360 Dang, dude.

00:39:55.740 And it's so funny because the way I've heard the term progressive realism used for the media.

00:40:02.440 I love that connection you make.

00:40:03.780 Progressive realism is this notion that, you know, progressivism is just, it's the wave of the future.

00:40:13.100 The arc of history inevitably bends to liberal definitions of justice.

00:40:19.340 So, we in the media who operate by progressive realism, all we have to do is expose how people like Jack Posobiec and Steve Bannon and so forth, how they're obscurantists, how they're trying to stop history.

00:40:33.320 That's all we have to do.

00:40:34.660 And we're just going to have this wonderful, happy, clappy consensus of progressive liberalism as far as I can see.

00:40:40.640 And the argument that scholars have made is that progressive realism is based on Frank Fukuyama's thesis.

00:40:48.160 Precisely.

00:40:48.700 I want to get more, but unfortunately, we are just about out of time.

00:40:51.480 Where can people go to find your long-form unpacking of all of this?

00:40:56.340 Oh, just punch my name into either Rumble or YouTube.

00:40:59.580 Dr. Steve Turley.

00:41:00.600 You'll find my channels there.

00:41:02.520 You'll find them there.

00:41:03.420 You'll get the books.

00:41:04.100 A couple of guitar videos, too, every once in a while.

00:41:07.200 You never know what you're going to find when you Google Dr. Steve Turley.

00:41:11.380 Same, same, it's a problem I know all too well myself.

00:41:14.700 Folks, ladies and gentlemen, we will, ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.

00:41:19.440 Ladies and gentlemen.

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