Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THE VIOLENT LEFT WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY'RE STOPPED

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.840 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.520 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.580 Christ is King.

00:00:51.160 A-5 of the United Nations General Assembly in New York City.

00:00:55.180 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to speak.

00:00:59.200 This as protests are expected to break out against the war in Gaza.

00:01:03.620 I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank.

00:01:06.800 No, I will not allow it.

00:01:08.500 It's not going to happen.

00:01:09.440 Did you speak with Netanyahu about this directly?

00:01:11.080 Yeah, but I'm not going to allow it.

00:01:12.580 Whether I spoke to him or not, I did.

00:01:14.060 But I'm not allowing Israel to annex the West Bank.

00:01:17.700 There's been enough.

00:01:18.800 It's time to stop now.

00:01:19.940 James Comey is now the first senior government official to face charges in one of President

00:01:25.500 Trump's biggest grievances, the 2016 Russia investigation.

00:01:29.600 The Secretary of War, Pete Hegsath, planning a rare in-person meeting with hundreds of top

00:01:34.560 generals and admirals from around the world.

00:01:37.420 Military sources telling Fox News that this is set for Tuesday at a Marine base in Virginia.

00:01:43.220 The parking lot behind the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Office filled with federal agents early Thursday

00:01:49.260 morning in these pictures posted online by the FBI's Milwaukee office.

00:01:54.120 Officials calling it a joint operation with U.S. Marshals, ICE agents and the Drug Enforcement

00:01:59.780 Association.

00:02:01.140 21 people arrested who the FBI says are in the country illegally.

00:02:05.820 Authorities say nine are suspected of sexual assault and or trafficking young girls.

00:02:10.780 They're anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators, and they get hired

00:02:16.480 by wealthy people, some of whom I know, I guess.

00:02:19.600 You know, I probably know them.

00:02:21.380 And you wouldn't know at dinner with them, everything's nice, and then you find out that 0.98

00:02:25.160 they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. 0.98

00:02:28.120 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. 0.93

00:02:58.100 Welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:03:01.020 I'm here live, Phoenix, Arizona, in the Charlie Kirk studio.

00:03:05.720 Today is September 26, 2025.

00:03:09.340 Well, folks, we have it again.

00:03:11.200 Guys, throw it up.

00:03:12.180 Throw up the videos.

00:03:13.400 Another ICE facility is under attack outside Chicago.

00:03:18.140 The violent Antifa left, as it turns out, has not stopped just because they were asked to.

00:03:25.480 Stop, guys.

00:03:26.720 Just stop.

00:03:27.780 It's not going to work.

00:03:29.560 It will not work.

00:03:30.900 It will never work.

00:03:32.540 The only thing they respond to is action.

00:03:35.600 The only thing they respond to is swift government action with government force behind it, whether

00:03:42.300 state or, in this case, obviously federal.

00:03:45.000 What are we waiting for?

00:03:46.620 What are we doing?

00:03:47.420 We got the Comey indictment last night, which I applaud.

00:03:51.460 I absolutely applaud.

00:03:53.080 A.G.

00:03:53.420 Bondi made the right move.

00:03:55.620 We are now balancing the scales.

00:03:59.100 The scales need to be balanced because if we don't balance the scales, it's like a young 0.60

00:04:04.680 child, right?

00:04:05.580 When you're dealing with your kids and the kid does something and he does something and

00:04:09.600 he does it again and he acts up again and he acts up again.

00:04:12.040 Every once in a while, if you've got to be dad, dad's got to put the foot down.

00:04:16.780 You've got to put the foot down or otherwise they're going to keep doing it.

00:04:21.920 So with the D.C.

00:04:23.520 corruption, absolutely.

00:04:25.480 That means you have to indict.

00:04:28.240 You have to put pressure in the opposite direction.

00:04:32.560 When it comes to the violent left, it's the same thing.

00:04:35.980 They will not stop.

00:04:38.940 They are doing this over and over and over to conservatives, to ICE agents, to Christians, 0.73

00:04:47.140 to Catholics.

00:04:50.200 You think they're just going to give up because you made some good argument or you made some

00:04:55.540 good debate point?

00:04:57.600 You think they're just going to give up?

00:05:00.020 Why don't you come down here to the Charlie Kirk studio and ask that question?

00:05:03.800 Why don't you ask the guy right here?

00:05:05.100 Oh, wait, you can't do that, can you?

00:05:07.920 You can't ask the guy in that chair about that, can you?

00:05:10.940 No.

00:05:12.520 He went out and tried to talk to them.

00:05:14.500 And what happened?

00:05:16.380 Yeah.

00:05:18.180 We saw what happened.

00:05:21.220 This is as serious as it gets.

00:05:24.040 This is serious business.

00:05:27.840 I wake up.

00:05:28.740 There is another leftist attack.

00:05:30.680 I wake up.

00:05:31.980 There is another leftist attack.

00:05:35.100 It's very simple.

00:05:36.720 It's not complicated at all.

00:05:38.560 It's not even a little bit complicated.

00:05:40.660 For every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction.

00:05:45.660 And we need that with the color of law under the federal government.

00:05:52.620 It's very simple.

00:05:53.860 And by the way, this attack on the ice facility today was planned.

00:05:57.980 It was publicized.

00:05:59.680 You could go see it.

00:06:01.220 Conservative media had reporters there.

00:06:03.220 Independent journalists were there.

00:06:04.900 There were press releases.

00:06:06.180 Go look at Georgetown.

00:06:07.060 Andrew put up the thing on Twitter.

00:06:09.580 They're so safe and they are so comfortable that they're more than happy to post violent threats to you on a college campus.

00:06:20.020 And they know the campus isn't going to do anything because all the professors are Antifa.

00:06:24.160 The professors are domestic terrorist idolaters.

00:06:29.140 They are the ideologues. 0.88

00:06:30.760 They have turned these colleges into madrasas.

00:06:33.800 They have turned them into madrasas of Antifa domestic terrorism.

00:06:39.300 And we're talking, it's not the video games.

00:06:41.300 It's not discord.

00:06:42.820 It's not the memes.

00:06:44.400 It is a violent leftist ideology.

00:06:46.920 And it has been a violent leftist ideology every single time this happens.

00:06:53.880 Were the Bolsheviks playing too many video games? 0.98

00:06:57.340 I see all these senators out of the video games.

00:06:59.560 Was Lenin playing video games?

00:07:00.980 Was Lenin playing too much Call of Duty and Halo?

00:07:02.880 Really? 0.99

00:07:04.760 Ridiculous. 1.00

00:07:05.640 You should be ashamed. 1.00

00:07:07.180 You shouldn't be up there blubbering in your suits.

00:07:10.060 You should be over demanding action and backing action when action is taken.

00:07:16.440 And let me tell you something.

00:07:18.160 We're going to be taking action.

00:07:20.900 Right back.

00:07:21.440 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Bulls.

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00:10:39.120 Folks, look at what's going on in Chicago right now.

00:10:44.020 Look at the ice situation.

00:10:45.500 This ice facility, it's under attack.

00:10:48.580 It's under siege, right?

00:10:51.360 And it's not just a Steven Seagal movie anymore.

00:10:53.300 It's real.

00:10:54.320 It's happening in real life.

00:10:56.060 The violent left is not going to be stopped.

00:10:59.240 And, folks, it's very simple.

00:11:01.140 If we don't see action here, then the left, the violent left, the Antifa left,

00:11:07.060 will receive a message as well, the same way as an unruly child will.

00:11:12.380 Go ahead and do more.

00:11:14.100 You're allowed.

00:11:16.040 They will declare open season on ICE, on Trump, on Trump supporters,

00:11:22.500 prominent Trump supporters.

00:11:24.100 It's already happening.

00:11:26.060 And I wish that I could talk about something else.

00:11:30.940 I wish that I could get into other situations.

00:11:34.820 But, frankly, folks, this is the topic.

00:11:38.560 This is the story.

00:11:39.900 You have to understand this.

00:11:43.240 They're coming for you.

00:11:45.260 They're coming for ICE agents.

00:11:47.120 And they will not stop.

00:11:48.320 And they will not quit on their own.

00:11:50.060 They will only respond to action.

00:11:52.640 And it's really as simple as that.

00:11:55.720 Action must be taken.

00:11:57.720 I'm talking about, and by the way, they knew, they all knew that this was going to happen.

00:12:03.020 So, let's go, guys.

00:12:06.900 Everyone gets a knock on the door.

00:12:08.680 Here's what it looks like.

00:12:10.280 Everyone gets a knock on the door.

00:12:13.300 Remember, if you're planning one of these things, if you're a member of one of these Antifa domestic terrorist organizations,

00:12:20.220 if you're fanning the flames of violence like our vice president said yesterday,

00:12:25.040 we understand what that looks like.

00:12:26.740 You get a knock on the door.

00:12:28.860 Hey.

00:12:29.180 Hey, we see you.

00:12:33.000 Hey.

00:12:34.340 Keep your nose clean.

00:12:36.600 Hey.

00:12:39.580 We're watching.

00:12:41.640 We're watching your every move.

00:12:44.160 It needs to be persistent.

00:12:46.580 We saw this during COVID.

00:12:48.120 We saw this after J6 when they were arresting patriots by the hundreds.

00:12:52.460 We know what it looks like when the FBI wants to put pressure on networks.

00:12:57.300 And there were so many people who got knocked on the doors after that that weren't even involved with J6. 0.67

00:13:03.060 They were tangentially involved.

00:13:05.180 There were so many people who were called up to Capitol Hill, were forced to testify.

00:13:11.380 Like, oh, by the way, Charlie Kirk used to sit in that chair before they killed him.

00:13:15.720 And even Tyler Boyer, who's under indictment in Arizona.

00:13:20.100 We know what it looks like.

00:13:22.560 You haul them up.

00:13:24.800 Haul them all up.

00:13:25.560 But again and again and again, you have to keep the pressure on.

00:13:31.820 You have to keep the pressure on.

00:13:33.940 And Georgia, by the way, and I know that I know that President Trump and Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, have had their disagreements, to say the least, in the past, though they did patch things up for 2024.

00:13:44.600 But I've always, and go back and watch the shows, I've always praised Governor Kemp for what he did to Antifa and the Antifa networks following the Stop Cop City riots and attacks.

00:13:59.120 Remember we were calling them Treehouse Antifa?

00:14:00.600 Antifa, when they were attacking, they were in the forests, they were laying siege, they were firing, they were violent, they were fatal in some cases.

00:14:08.720 Because in these attacks, it was happening over and over.

00:14:12.400 And what did Brian Kemp do?

00:14:13.340 Not only did the Georgia police arrest all of the people who were involved, they opened up a RICO investigation.

00:14:21.500 They opened up that RICO investigation and they were going after financiers.

00:14:24.900 They were going after people who were involved in the conspiracy.

00:14:27.440 They were going after anyone who was involved, the people who were donating.

00:14:30.880 They rolled it all up.

00:14:32.220 And they continued and pushed further and further and further.

00:14:35.540 That is the blueprint.

00:14:37.200 So you take the Georgia Antifa RICO case and you make that the blueprint nationwide.

00:14:43.680 It's very simple.

00:14:45.060 You make that nationwide and that's your predicate.

00:14:47.600 That's your probable cause right there.

00:14:50.780 It needs to be done.

00:14:52.700 Because they're going to keep killing people.

00:14:54.700 All right? 0.95

00:14:55.320 They just are.

00:14:57.360 I hate it.

00:14:59.060 Wish I didn't have to do this.

00:15:00.600 But guess what?

00:15:02.220 It's all real, folks.

00:15:04.380 And we don't have to ask anymore.

00:15:13.460 We don't have to ask anymore.

00:15:14.740 How bad could it get?

00:15:16.560 We don't.

00:15:18.600 Because we know what happens.

00:15:21.440 They will show up on your way to work on top of a roof.

00:15:26.420 And they will etch anti-ice into their bullets.

00:15:31.260 And they'll wait.

00:15:33.080 And they'll wait.

00:15:34.940 And once they have you in their crosshairs, they'll open fire.

00:15:38.500 And they might miss and hit detainees like happened in that situation.

00:15:41.740 But do you really want to roll those dice?

00:15:46.380 Do you really want to wait until more bullets are flying?

00:15:50.900 Or they'll wait until you have a campus event?

00:15:53.440 And they'll let you take a few questions.

00:15:59.400 Let you get comfortable.

00:16:01.500 Let you wait in.

00:16:03.780 And then, that's it.

00:16:06.940 It's a real situation.

00:16:10.580 And our federal law enforcement do not need to face this.

00:16:15.100 It is a crime, what is going on.

00:16:17.380 An absolute crime.

00:16:19.740 And this is the issue that we're fighting back against.

00:16:22.480 This is the issue that we need to stand strong on.

00:16:27.600 Not just for federal law enforcement.

00:16:29.880 But by the way, there were detainees who were even killed, by the way.

00:16:33.660 I don't see anyone on the left talking about that.

00:16:35.580 Jimmy Kimmel say anything about them?

00:16:38.460 A violent leftist killed a bunch of detainees.

00:16:43.380 It wasn't the right.

00:16:44.640 It wasn't MAGA.

00:16:45.600 Remember he was trying to blame MAGA?

00:16:47.840 No.

00:16:48.920 No.

00:16:50.280 But I don't see anyone on the left who cares.

00:16:53.060 They'll go all the way down to El Salvador for a Brego Garcia, this human trafficker.

00:16:57.560 But when it comes to a couple of detainees who get killed in cold blood, by a leftist, silence.

00:17:04.380 Absolute silence.

00:17:08.460 And it's very horrific.

00:17:10.960 We do have Tricia McLaughlin now joining us here from the Department of Homeland Security. 0.93

00:17:17.280 Tricia, how are you?

00:17:18.840 Jack, it's great to be with you.

00:17:20.260 Thank you for having me.

00:17:22.520 I appreciate you coming on.

00:17:24.100 Obviously, everything that your department has gone under, and specifically the ICE agency this week, is absolutely horrific.

00:17:33.000 And what can you tell us as to how the department, and we just have a minute until the break, but I'll hold you if I can,

00:17:40.040 is dealing with this wave of violence against ICE agents?

00:17:43.080 Well, Secretary Noem has ordered for all facilities, whether it be ICE or CBP, just DHS in general, facilities across the nation to be hardened in the security.

00:17:54.340 Our officers have to be vigilant.

00:17:55.780 I mean, we just saw, and we actually just announced that earlier today, about 30 minutes ago, we confiscated a firearm from a riot that's happening right now at our Broadview facility in Chicago.

00:18:10.220 And this is just two days after what just happened with this deranged individual opening fire indiscriminately on our ICE facility and the vans down there that led to the killing of one of the detainees and the serious injury of two of them.

00:18:24.920 And thank God that our law enforcement was not injured and everyone's alive, but we're fearful we're going to see more of this.

00:18:32.480 And so we're certainly going to be hardening security, but also, I mean, you've done such a great job, Jack, of pointing out the dehumanization and the demonization of our law enforcement from these media pundits and from the political left.

00:18:46.080 And it has to stop now.

00:18:47.300 We keep on saying, I can't tell you how many times we've had this same conversation, and yet we're just seeing more and more bloodshed.

00:18:53.300 No, it's absolutely horrific.

00:18:56.520 Tricia, let me, we have to take that break.

00:18:59.000 It's a hard break.

00:18:59.780 But if we can, I'd love to get you on the flip side of this, because we do need to delve into that topic, as well as these threats that are ongoing against federal law enforcement who are just doing their job enforcing the laws of the United States of America.

00:19:15.920 And yet they don't need to face this.

00:19:18.260 No.

00:19:19.160 We are a nation of laws.

00:19:20.220 We are a nation of freedom of speech and values, and that is all what's under attack.

00:19:26.120 You talk about influences.

00:19:27.640 These are influences.

00:19:29.560 And they're friends of mine.

00:19:31.900 Jack Posobiec.

00:19:33.380 Where's Jack?

00:19:34.360 Jack.

00:19:35.340 He's done a great job.

00:19:37.280 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:19:41.180 We are back live here.

00:19:42.620 Human Events Daily.

00:19:44.040 Real America's Voice.

00:19:45.040 We're on with the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin.

00:19:48.780 Tricia, you were telling us in the previous segment about this firearm that was confiscated at this siege, this violent protest that's going on outside an ICE facility, which is near Chicago.

00:20:03.000 Can you tell us, do we know if this was a long gun, handgun, anything like that?

00:20:07.140 I'm still getting details, Jack, on what that firearm was.

00:20:10.440 But what we do know is that there's about 200 protesters, 200 rioters around this Broadview facility that's in Chicago.

00:20:18.940 Within that facility is child predators, drug traffickers, those who have committed violent assaults, including against police officers.

00:20:27.780 So these are truly heinous individuals, and there are these rioters outside who are trying to obstruct our law enforcement from entering that facility, and they're trying to cause chaos to operations.

00:20:38.900 But among them was one of those rioters who did have that firearm.

00:20:42.320 He has been arrested and that firearm confiscated.

00:20:45.140 But, of course, this is increasingly alarming, Jack, after what we just saw out of our Dallas ICE field office, where that deranged individual opened fire and tried to hunt down our law enforcement.

00:20:58.340 Again, one individual was killed, and two others are in critical condition.

00:21:03.100 Those individuals are detainees, or excuse me, were detainees, and we do pray for them today.

00:21:08.060 But what we know with that deranged individual from the Dallas ICE field office, he was doing this because he was hellbent on killing our law enforcement.

00:21:18.400 As much as the media tries to spin this and say otherwise, we know the motivation.

00:21:24.040 We saw those shell casings that had anti-ICE messages on them.

00:21:27.620 He left behind handwritten notes that said he wanted to terrorize ICE agents and bring the ultimate violence to them.

00:21:34.680 We also saw that he was largely inspired by the murder of your friend and so many of our heroes, Charlie Kirk, his murder.

00:21:44.480 He used a similar firearm as well.

00:21:47.700 The format of the attack itself was similar as far as from a rooftop, from a roof that was adjacent to the ICE facility.

00:21:55.640 That's where he was trying to snipe down and rain down these bullets on our law enforcement.

00:22:01.260 And farther, this was very premeditated.

00:22:03.360 He did a lot of research on the Charlie Kirk murder, and we believe that it was very much an inspiration for him.

00:22:11.400 And we are, gosh, Jack, God forbid we see more copycats of this.

00:22:15.720 And that's something that I think we're starting to piece out that, you know, because when I first saw the photo, when FBI Director Patel released the photos of those bullets, I have to say myself, like I'm sure so many others, the very first thing we thought of was,

00:22:34.280 my gosh, my gosh, that looks exactly like the bullets that were used in Charlie's assassination.

00:22:41.600 And, you know, you wonder just off the first glance, was this meant to be some kind of copycat message?

00:22:51.360 And then, as you say, the fact that it was a Mauser, the fact that it was a bolt-action rifle, the fact that it was, you know, similar brand, similar make, slightly different setup.

00:23:04.040 But, again, all of these pieces that come together that really seem to show that this was a, you know, perhaps meant as an homage or something like that in terms of this type of violent act.

00:23:17.060 And, of course, then a call for more, a call for expansion.

00:23:21.520 And, unfortunately, and studies have shown that when these types of attacks do happen, they can inspire copycats.

00:23:28.740 I hate to say this, but are you tracking more, is the department tracking more threats like this?

00:23:34.640 We're certainly tracking more threats like this across the country.

00:23:38.780 I mean, we've seen, of course, at this ICE facility in Chicago that that is a potential sticking point there.

00:23:46.260 Portland has had very violent riots as well.

00:23:50.460 Los Angeles.

00:23:51.300 And there seems to be widespread coordination on this.

00:23:54.540 As the president, he ordered an executive order to be tracking down the funding.

00:23:58.800 What are the funding streams that is fueling this violence and this chaos?

00:24:02.880 So this is a whole-of-government approach.

00:24:04.880 Homeland Security Investigations is working with the FBI.

00:24:07.820 We're working with the Treasury Department to see where this money is coming from.

00:24:11.580 Is it foreign money?

00:24:12.660 Is it domestic?

00:24:13.620 Are there multiple streams at this?

00:24:15.260 But that's what it has to come down to.

00:24:17.560 And we're also working closely with the Department of Justice.

00:24:20.760 How can we be preventing this?

00:24:22.080 And how do we prosecute these individuals to the fullest extent of the law?

00:24:25.480 And so when you talk about coordination, and of course the president signed several EOs, can you tell us, if you can, I mean, I understand if there are current things that you want to get into because of investigations, but are you able to tell us, is this something the DHS is now able to bring certain authorities to bear because of those EOs?

00:24:47.180 I think definitely to a certain extent.

00:24:52.180 I think that's something that's something that's been more important than even some of those EOs is that President Trump and his cabinet secretaries have really done a fantastic job of breaking down silos in the intelligence community.

00:25:03.580 It used to be when we started 250 days ago, that left hand didn't know what right hand was doing.

00:25:09.580 They didn't have certain targets or certain intelligence information that would have been helpful to track down these perpetrators and track down those who are trying to harm Americans.

00:25:19.160 And so that's been incredibly helpful to both Homeland Security, to the FBI, and to other agencies that a lot of Americans won't even consider part of the intelligence apparatus like the Treasury Department.

00:25:32.540 Well, that's exactly right.

00:25:33.920 And going after finances is absolutely key.

00:25:36.240 In fact, we interviewed Secretary Besson a few weeks ago, and he said that 50 percent of his portfolio is national security or criminal related.

00:25:45.780 And in fact, I know from having done previous investigations and work into this that, you know, it always seems that there's there's some guy in the back of a you talk about the silos, some some investigator in the back of one of those joint terrorism task forces, the JTTFs that are across all the major cities, who has done in many cases, a lot of the tracking of the information of these individuals in these networks.

00:26:07.000 And yet it's siloed and they can't share it with people because they don't stay in one AOR.

00:26:11.780 They don't stay in one city.

00:26:12.980 They do other things and they don't share it with other agencies who could then bring those investigative those investigative prowess and the and potentially prosecution forward.

00:26:23.980 So I absolutely applaud the fact that that you've done that.

00:26:27.500 I hope the JTTFs can be a resource here as well.

00:26:30.180 Obviously, DHS plays a huge, huge role there.

00:26:34.480 Trisha McLaughlin, thank you so much.

00:26:35.720 Where can people go to get more information about what you're putting out and the department?

00:26:41.400 Absolutely.

00:26:42.000 If you are on X, go to at DHS gov.

00:26:45.400 And I'm also on X at Trisha Ohio.

00:26:49.600 All right.

00:26:50.260 Assistant Secretary Homeland Security, Trisha McLaughlin.

00:26:53.520 She's been so open with us.

00:26:55.600 She's been so available, even even in the midst of all this heinous chaos and violence that her own department is dealing with.

00:27:02.940 God bless you, Trisha.

00:27:03.900 Thank you for being there, folks.

00:27:05.500 It's very simple.

00:27:06.920 The JTTFs have the information.

00:27:09.340 The information is out there breaking down the silos.

00:27:11.780 I love hearing this because as a guy who used to be stuck in one of those silos, hoping for some kind of action in the intelligence community, this is exactly the moves that need to be made.

00:27:22.800 Right back.

00:27:23.440 Human Events Daily with Marker's Voice.

00:27:24.660 Where is Jack?

00:27:25.660 Where is Jack?

00:27:27.880 Where is Jack?

00:27:30.060 Where is he?

00:27:31.340 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:35.000 Great job, Jack.

00:27:36.400 Thank you.

00:27:37.140 What a job you do.

00:27:38.600 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:27:39.980 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:27:42.060 But we have guys and these are the guys who should be getting policies.

00:27:45.680 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back here live.

00:27:52.740 Human Events Daily.

00:27:54.360 We've got Joe Lavernia.

00:27:55.580 He's the senior counselor to the secretary of the Treasury.

00:27:59.100 He joins us now.

00:28:00.360 Joe, how are you?

00:28:01.640 Good, Jack.

00:28:02.320 Good to be with you.

00:28:03.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:28:07.060 Absolutely.

00:28:07.460 So, you know, as you know, as we go through these these weeks and we're talking about the the Charlie Kirk legacy and we're talking about and we're here in Charlie's studio.

00:28:17.040 I'm next to his his chair here.

00:28:19.640 And one of the things that Charlie really went in on was no tax on tips.

00:28:25.980 And he really was so focused on and not just that issue, but among others, he was so focused on the working class.

00:28:36.900 And but he didn't call it that, of course, he called it the muscular class.

00:28:40.160 He would say those guys who have to take a shower before work and after work, you know, and he had so much love for for this group of people that had really been given the short end of the stick for so many years in this country and and wanted to help them.

00:28:55.980 Economically, to achieve that wage growth, the home ownership and really just just fought for it as much as he could.

00:29:04.640 So we wanted to bring you on today because I know we have some numbers to report.

00:29:08.700 And I just know that, you know, Charlie is he's on assignment with God right now, but I'm sure he's I'm sure he's looking down and smiling at some of the the wins that have really been coming out that he fought so hard for.

00:29:20.160 Yeah. Well, absolutely. And, you know, when you talk about the working folks, you know, President Trump is a builder and he understands that because when he built buildings, he he he worked with all the people that that were part of it.

00:29:33.820 That's who he was comfortable with without naming names.

00:29:35.680 As I actually know, a gentleman who worked with Trump organization for years and he always said that the president was a huge patriot and it was the common folk who he bonded with, which is kind of interesting.

00:29:45.880 Right. You don't think someone successful as a billionaire is like that.

00:29:48.560 And the same thing with Secretary Besson, if you read his history and how he was working as a kid at a very early age hustling.

00:29:55.360 And, you know, so the president clearly understands how important it is, as Charlie did, to do what we can to lift the after tax wage rates for for U.S. workers, the backbone of the economy.

00:30:07.020 We like to call the the blue collar workers.

00:30:09.580 And under President Trump, we're seeing now through the first eight months of administration now is actually the fastest growth in real wages over one percent than any administration in the last 60 years.

00:30:21.000 If you look at the first term and the bill that was passed, as you highlight, the no tax on tips is important, but it also includes no tax on overtime.

00:30:29.220 Jack, that's going to encourage people into the workforce, produce more for people.

00:30:33.100 It's going to lower inflation. And of course, even working seniors, they're going to get a tax break as well.

00:30:38.380 So all these things that Charlie highlighted, the president clearly has those same views.

00:30:44.060 And we're all working in the right direction, which is lifting American wage rates, lowering their cost of living and raising their living standards, especially for the middle and lower income workers.

00:30:55.600 That is central to what President Trump wants to do.

00:30:58.820 Well, you know, it's something that, you know, just I remember last year, Charlie would be telling us, he's I'm in the back of the Uber and I'm telling the Uber driver all about no tax on tips.

00:31:07.900 And I got his I got his address and we're going to send him a ballot and, you know, it'd be out at dinner somewhere.

00:31:14.240 And, you know, he wrote it on all the receipts, you know, Trump, no tax on tips.

00:31:18.160 And of course, he was in Arizona, but wherever he was in his travels that he would whenever he would meet people who were, you know, Uber drivers, waiters, servers, you know, anyone in that, you know, anyone who is in the in an industry where they have tips.

00:31:36.180 Right. He made sure to just be one of the biggest evangelists for that, because it's something that I mean, of course, we held a couple events in in Las Vegas.

00:31:45.940 And of course, Nevada, this is a huge issue. And he would talk about it as much as possible.

00:31:49.960 So, you know, he really made it a high spot of the the efforts in twenty twenty four.

00:31:58.260 And it's so incredible because, you know, we're seeing that take place, but we're also seeing and again, the wage growth that is coming in for the muscular class now.

00:32:07.360 Yeah, I mean, I think unfortunately, I didn't get to know Charlie. I wish I had.

00:32:12.940 But he believed that ideas mattered. And if you had a better idea, he was going to listen to it.

00:32:18.720 And President Trump, with the no tax on tips, knew that was a real important development.

00:32:24.240 And what was a great novel idea that made it jack into the legislation is you talk about waiters and waitresses and other people that depend on tips for their livelihood.

00:32:33.080 But digital asset creators, content creators are also now part of this bill because that's how they earn their money through voluntary paid tips or what we call qualified tips.

00:32:45.300 So the YouTube, the YouTubers, the live streamers, the podcasters, all the people that you knew and grew up with, they also now get the benefit of this.

00:32:53.660 So not only is President Trump helping the interior of the economy, the backbone of the economy, he's also gotten legislation passed that take us into and through the 21st century in a way that's going to benefit the U.S. uniquely to everywhere else in the world.

00:33:08.940 Well, and I certainly appreciate that as a as a content creator, streamer type person myself, you know, that that's really something that that is fantastic.

00:33:22.120 And I know that Charlie was a huge part of that behind the scenes to get that included in there and something that, you know, he was always fighting for because he was always thinking about different pieces of legislation and different ways that he could help.

00:33:37.300 And by the way, not just people on his political side of the aisle or people who agreed with him on every issue, but actual American citizens.

00:33:44.920 And that was the entire point. And I think that's something that gets lost many times in, you know, these framings, not just of Charlie, but in his legacy, but also the president and the administration in general, that these are wins, not only for, you know, if you're someone who wears a red hat, if you wear a blue hat, if you are a camo hat, if you wear a construction hat, you know, construction helmet to work.

00:34:06.540 Guess what? These policies are going to help you. And in fact, they're kicking in now and already helping you.

00:34:13.240 And some of the numbers that we're seeing, the job growth that we're seeing, you and I talked before about the new capital investment, investitures that businesses are doing into the United States.

00:34:22.020 And President Trump talks about it every single chance he gets. He says, America is so hot right now. America is so hot. The money's all coming in.

00:34:28.940 And it's actually true. It's actually happening. It's not just a marketing pitch, even though he is the best salesman there is, but it's it's actually coming to fruition.

00:34:37.080 Well, you know, you need optimism. The animal spirits, as a famous economic quote would say.

00:34:41.500 So the president is a builder, knows how the economy works, knows how the private sector works.

00:34:45.620 You're exactly right. One of our earlier conversations, we talked way back about the blue collar boom that was starting pretty much the minute that the president took office.

00:34:54.280 But we also see much stronger CapEx, Jack, as you allude to. We're at almost a 15 year high or close to it in terms of capital spending.

00:35:02.780 We've yet to benefit fully from the full expensing of capital equipment that is going to continue to engineer much faster investment by companies.

00:35:10.940 When companies invest more, they could produce more.

00:35:13.340 They make more profits and they could pay their workers more. In addition, because President Trump's a builder and he wants to make things and factories and reindustrializing and reinvigorating the manufacturing base,

00:35:25.360 which was really depleted and exhausted under both Democrats and Republicans, this revival, this golden age, if you will, now can start because of the president's forward looking policies such that companies are going to make and build things here.

00:35:40.060 And they will be they'll be made by American workers. They will be employed by American workers. 0.66

00:35:45.700 And Secretary Besson, as well, has made this point. What will that mean? It will mean rising wages for everyday Americans.

00:35:52.100 As the secretary has said many times, you know, Wall Street has done well and we'd like Wall Street to do well.

00:35:56.820 But this is mainstream turn. They need to do well. That was the overriding, unique characteristic of the first Trump administration, where middle and lower class families outperformed the upper end.

00:36:08.920 They had the biggest wage gains, real wage gains they had essentially in history.

00:36:14.660 And basically the first three years of President Trump's first term, he was something like two to three times the cumulative gain in the prior 16 years.

00:36:23.000 So the president knows what makes the economy work.

00:36:25.960 And he's got great people like Secretary Besson to put his policies in place.

00:36:30.980 And, Jack, the best news is still ahead. Four percent GDP nearly last quarter looks looking maybe at four percent this quarter.

00:36:38.140 However, I'm just super optimistic on the outlook.

00:36:42.120 And and quick, quick question, Joe, the I have to ask as well, the interest rate cuts that, you know, we finally see the you know, this this the situation with Powell, something the president had been pushing for so long.

00:36:54.220 So just before we break, go to the break, I know we have about a minute left and I know you have to run.

00:36:58.500 And what what do you do we expect to see from finally getting these interest rate cuts?

00:37:03.480 The Fed finally is cutting rates or cutting rates, Jack, because the labor market's weak.

00:37:07.960 We find out after the fact that we had about a million and a half fewer jobs than what the prior administration thought we had.

00:37:14.280 So it wasn't like the president hired and inherited a good job market.

00:37:17.700 Quite the opposite. We're upbeat, though, that all the capital spending in the building will lead to to much higher growth.

00:37:23.440 But there are pockets of the economy that could certainly benefit from lower rates.

00:37:27.480 Housing won certain areas of manufacturing.

00:37:30.420 And we know from the first Trump term you could have fast growth and low inflation.

00:37:34.380 So why hold the economy back with high rates? The Fed has cut.

00:37:38.300 The good news is they're signaling in their projections they they need to cut more.

00:37:43.480 Understandably, the president has been frustrated with the slow pace of the cuts.

00:37:47.340 But I think finally they're moving in that direction and that will just give the economy an added prop.

00:37:52.780 We'll be able to produce more and that will mean actually lower inflation, faster growth.

00:37:57.540 It's a fantastic story. And again, very consistent with why voters put the president back in office because of the successes he had in his first term.

00:38:07.460 Joe Lavernia, Counselor 2, Secretary of the Treasury.

00:38:11.460 Thank you so much, Joe, for being here and for your kind words about Charlie.

00:38:14.760 God bless. We'll be right back.

00:38:16.600 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily at the Charlie Kirk Studio.

00:38:20.220 Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.

00:38:29.480 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:33.440 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you. Amen.

00:38:37.020 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec here at Human Events Daily.

00:38:44.040 We're in the Charlie Kirk Studio on the show today.

00:38:48.940 And we have a very special guest joining us now.

00:38:52.820 She is the acting CEO of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.

00:38:58.060 But even, I think, more important than that, she's family.

00:39:01.920 Carrie Lake joins us now. Carrie, how are you?

00:39:04.700 Thank you. Thank you, Jack.

00:39:06.180 What a sweet thing to say.

00:39:07.820 And I consider you family as well.

00:39:09.820 We're really this kind of hurting family that's been through trauma.

00:39:15.480 And the healing process now begins.

00:39:18.320 But we also are in the process of trying to make our kids understand what's going on,

00:39:22.780 why the world has become so violent.

00:39:24.580 So as a parent, I know it's a long road ahead for a lot of us.

00:39:30.680 How have your kids been taking it?

00:39:32.480 You know, interesting, my kids are, my son's about 21.

00:39:37.540 He's turning 21 here in about a week.

00:39:39.360 And my daughter's 22.

00:39:40.840 So they are right there at the age of the young assassin.

00:39:45.540 And we've talked a lot about it.

00:39:47.580 You know, it's interesting because my daughter worked for Charlie.

00:39:50.120 She worked at Turning Point.

00:39:51.000 She still works there part-time.

00:39:52.200 And so she's taken it really hard.

00:39:54.340 She, of course, went to many of these college campus events.

00:39:57.420 So it's very real to her.

00:39:59.360 She could imagine what it was like to be there that day.

00:40:02.820 She knows how much Charlie loved his family and cared about his personal security as well.

00:40:07.840 So he didn't take that lightly.

00:40:08.920 And she just can't grasp the fact that he's gone.

00:40:12.480 But both of my kids said to me,

00:40:14.880 Mom, we're not surprised that kids our age are, you know, demented like this because of what we've been through.

00:40:21.920 You know, they were seeing, and I tried to send them to schools, Jack,

00:40:24.400 where they didn't have a bunch of leftist teachers.

00:40:27.800 But they still experience in their growing up at school a constant barrage of leftist ideology.

00:40:35.120 And they experience it.

00:40:36.880 My son's at college right now.

00:40:38.700 He said the leftist professors and teachers are out of control.

00:40:43.440 I asked him, well, surely, Leo, you have at least a couple of conservative professors, right?

00:40:48.560 He said, no, zero.

00:40:50.160 So this generation has been through hardcore brainwashing their whole life.

00:40:55.820 And it's a miracle any of them could come out of that halfway normal.

00:41:00.540 And if they have, you've got to give a little bit of good parenting on one side of that.

00:41:05.780 No, and I agree with you.

00:41:07.760 And, of course, you know, I know your daughter from Turning Point.

00:41:10.780 I met your daughter through Charlie.

00:41:13.080 I met you through Charlie and Turning Point.

00:41:15.500 And she's always been so helpful with, you know, when I was doing events.

00:41:19.060 And she'd be, you know, working on logistics or whatever it was.

00:41:23.160 And just so committed to the mission.

00:41:27.540 And when you think about how this affects that generation, and I've been thinking about my children as well.

00:41:37.280 And, you know, this is going to be something that it is a it's a mass trauma.

00:41:43.160 You know, it's a mass trauma where it's different from, say, a military attack or a, you know, something that just happens on the news because it's personal.

00:41:55.000 It was so personal for so many kids in this generation.

00:41:58.540 And I keep hearing kids down to, you know, 10 years old.

00:42:02.080 Someone told me the other day that that they were a huge fan of Charlie and my own kids.

00:42:07.700 They were sort of they're sort of too young to have been fans of Charlie, even though they knew him personally and had met him.

00:42:14.720 But they just sort of know him as like Uncle Charlie or, you know, and they don't quite understand the scope and the scale.

00:42:20.640 And they were at the memorial.

00:42:21.640 But they they're not just they don't get it yet.

00:42:24.340 I don't think one day they will.

00:42:26.060 But the question is, Carrie.

00:42:27.260 You know, do you think that for the ones that do and you mentioned that they that they are seeing what it is when it comes to the media, when it comes to the professors?

00:42:39.400 Do you think that they are really going to start turning against them?

00:42:45.000 Because unfortunately, in the wake of this, what do we see from the media?

00:42:48.980 More demonization, demonization of ICE agents, continued demonization of Charlie himself, even in death.

00:42:55.040 And it just doesn't stop.

00:42:57.600 And here's this this guy who's beloved by this generation, this younger generation.

00:43:02.520 And they won't stop attacking him.

00:43:05.620 Oh, they're attacking Erica.

00:43:07.560 I mean, when I heard that, I just.

00:43:09.100 Yes, yes, of course. 1.00

00:43:10.580 It's just garbage. 1.00

00:43:11.700 And she was literally just here. 0.99

00:43:13.580 I think our kids are really going to turn away from that and start start speaking out.

00:43:18.660 And for kids who didn't know who Charlie was, I mean, there were kids out there who didn't.

00:43:22.000 Now they're seeing that he was a calm force.

00:43:25.160 He had great ideas.

00:43:26.880 He cared deeply.

00:43:27.740 He was he was doing this for this young generation.

00:43:30.800 He was putting himself out there for this young generation, for his future.

00:43:34.840 And and of course, he had the the old folks like me.

00:43:37.880 He had the middle agers with them as well.

00:43:39.840 I mean, I know a lot of people who are in their 50s and 60s and 70s who love Turning Point.

00:43:43.580 So it's a big loss.

00:43:45.200 But I think Charlie's legacy is going to be that he brought a lot of people over to common

00:43:49.980 sense, conservative ideology and more importantly, to Christ, to his savior and our savior.

00:43:57.980 I am blown away by the number of young people now who are telling their parents they want

00:44:03.640 to start going to church, picking up a Bible, doing Bible study.

00:44:07.800 So it's the impact is absolutely massive.

00:44:10.360 It's just going to take some time to get over the shock of it all.

00:44:14.820 And and, you know, he was just a friend to all the true connector.

00:44:19.560 I met you.

00:44:20.520 I could probably count right now about 50 people without even having thinking of it, of that

00:44:26.040 because of Charlie, because of Turning Point, they are now in my lives.

00:44:30.120 And I used to tell Charlie, you need to start a dating app or dating, you know, some sort

00:44:36.020 of a dating department, because so many people through turning I remember you saying that.

00:44:40.480 I remember you saying that I definitely remember you saying that.

00:44:44.360 And we and yes, we have had marriages here.

00:44:46.900 We've had couples to get together.

00:44:48.720 And I think they did actually do some kind of it was like a Gen Z singles something.

00:44:55.340 I forget exactly one of the one of the America Fests.

00:44:57.880 And we'll have to bring that back because the marriages that have happened because of 0.98

00:45:01.560 him, all the children that are and the children, it's really the children.

00:45:04.500 Oh, yeah.

00:45:05.960 So we're praying for Erica and the children.

00:45:08.520 And we know that God, God said to Charlie, you know, we got I've got a bigger mission for

00:45:14.680 you, but this one's going to require a big sacrifice that I need to start bringing people

00:45:18.160 over to me, to God.

00:45:19.820 And are you up for the mission?

00:45:21.920 And I think that Charlie said, yes, yes, Lord.

00:45:24.740 So, you know, as difficult as it is not to have him here, he's one heck of a guardian angel.

00:45:30.500 I will tell one quick story.

00:45:31.640 I was looking back at text messages because I, too, got those like Bible verses from Charlie,

00:45:36.000 which always came like when I needed him most, to be honest.

00:45:40.600 And I look at some of the things he had sent me about my daughter because she worked there

00:45:45.440 and really kind words about her work ethic and what she meant to Turning Point.

00:45:52.220 And I shared those with her and it meant the world to her.

00:45:55.400 He just was a very thoughtful person.

00:45:57.640 And so when I hear people saying, oh, you've got to tone down the rhetoric, you've got to

00:46:02.680 be, no, don't be so hateful.

00:46:04.000 Oh, he was divisive.

00:46:05.240 He actually wasn't.

00:46:06.660 He did tone down the rhetoric.

00:46:08.120 He did listen to people who had vastly different ideologies and ideas and people who you would

00:46:14.580 normally just walk away from.

00:46:15.880 They sound so crazy.

00:46:17.180 He would sit and respectfully listen and have a debate with them.

00:46:20.840 And many times you'd see the light bulb go off.

00:46:23.640 I just think that our side doesn't need to turn down the rhetoric.

00:46:28.800 I don't believe that we are inciting people to violence.

00:46:32.500 And at the time for talk, frankly, it's now time for action, frankly.

00:46:36.620 I want to see President Trump dismantle these political agitators who are, frankly, some of

00:46:43.380 them part of the Antifa terror group and dismantle this, this killing group to make this kind 0.81

00:46:49.680 of political violence come to an end.

00:46:54.260 Well, Kerry, it's really as simple as that.

00:46:56.520 And like I started off the show saying it, this isn't going to stop until it's stopped.

00:47:01.020 It's like when you're dealing with unruly children.

00:47:03.260 At some point, you just, you got to put them on time out.

00:47:05.580 You got to put the foot down.

00:47:06.860 You can't ask them.

00:47:07.900 They're beyond that point.

00:47:08.760 And so you have to, you have to act.

00:47:10.620 You simply have to act.

00:47:12.960 Kerry Lake, where can people go to follow you?

00:47:15.340 And thank you again for just, just being here and for your kind words about Charlie.

00:47:19.020 Well, I wish I missed my beautiful state of Arizona.

00:47:22.140 I'm here in the swamp working with President Trump and we're working really hard to put

00:47:26.660 the American taxpayer first and make sure their tax dollars are not being misspent, which

00:47:31.700 believe me, they are right now.

00:47:33.800 But President Trump's working really hard and I'm working hard as well to be mindful

00:47:37.760 of the American taxpayer.

00:47:39.100 They can, you can find me on Twitter.

00:47:40.620 I guess it's called X now at Kerry Lake, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E. 0.91

00:47:45.040 I'm also on Facebook and Getter and, you know, all of the Instagram and all of that at Kerry

00:47:50.600 Lake.

00:47:52.460 Thank you, Kerry Lake.

00:47:53.560 God bless.

00:47:54.440 All right, folks, we are signing off now from the Charlie Kirk studio.

00:47:59.960 I can't even put the last couple of weeks into, into words.

00:48:06.040 It's been a blur.

00:48:07.980 Well, thank you for your support, for being here.

00:48:10.300 And I'll just always say, we will never quit.

00:48:13.840 We will never surrender because Charlie never surrendered.

00:48:18.840 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 26, 2025

THE VIOLENT LEFT WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY'RE STOPPED

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