Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lysak celebrate the one year anniversary of the release of their best selling book, Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them. Jack and Joshua discuss the impact of the book and the impact it had on their lives.
00:01:38.320Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's very special edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:02.020And we're calling it The Year of the Unhumans.
00:02:08.240And today is the one year anniversary of the release of the book Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:02:20.860Written by myself and co-authored by Joshua Lysak.
00:02:26.380It went on and we're very honored by the response of all of you in the audience.
00:02:31.380The amount of people who supported this.
00:02:34.100It did become a number one publisher's weekly bestseller.
00:03:52.980The guy who wrote the foreword to the book, Stephen K. Bannon, was sent to jail, federal prison, as a political prisoner just days after the release of the book.
00:04:03.580We even released a special political prisoner edition where he signed several hundred copies of it.
00:04:09.060And then, just a few days after the release of the book, in fact, the same week that the book was released, when we warned.
00:04:18.060And everybody trashed us saying there will be upheavals, there will be violence, and particularly political assassinations.
00:04:25.860Well, New York Times went after us, the entire left wing went after us, the entire media went after us.
00:04:34.680But what happened the same week the book was released?
00:04:38.320On July 13th, Butler, Pennsylvania, an ActBlue donor attempted to kill President Trump up on that stage in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:04:54.980And everything that's happened since has almost been like it's ripped from the pages of this book, arguing that we are in an irregular communist revolution right now.
00:05:12.540And unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, it's not over.
00:12:48.920They're like, wow, that's—we have accomplished our goal here.
00:12:52.840And it just has to be said that—and full credit where it's due—that a thank you to then-Senator J.D. Vance
00:13:02.760for endorsing the book, blurbing it, was mercilessly attacked.
00:13:08.060But then also, which we didn't know, right, in the course of writing the book, we didn't know that later that week, after the same week, remember, that the book came out, Trump gets shot.
00:13:19.360And then the guy who endorsed our book as the top blurb becomes the vice presidential nominee of the entire country.
00:13:28.840So if the Republican Party gets nominated and suddenly this just propels the book into this massive mainstream freakout, you've got MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, and all the rest of it losing their minds at this thing.
00:13:44.640And so I think those two things in combination with the book itself just really put a fire under the whole thing.
00:13:52.700And also the fact that you and I never once backed down because we got the playbook and we go through country by country as case studies over the past 250 years and walk you through how it's the same playbook every time.
00:14:24.000And then when you're questioned on it, you say, well, that wasn't the real one.
00:14:30.140And, of course, we flip it all on its head.
00:14:31.780We flip it on its head because we said, and we've got a minute here until the break, but we said, I think for the first time ever in a major publication like this, they're not doing this for the equality.
00:14:43.180They don't, the communists don't believe in communism.
00:14:48.400The fact it doesn't work is the point because the point of a system is what it does.
00:14:53.540And people will say, well, why do you feel, you know, someone who's operating in good faith might say, well, why do you still support communism, even though it's killed 100 million people?
00:15:02.360Where we come in and say, well, no, the point of the communism was the killing of 100 million people.
00:15:10.180And deep down, the envy and resentment at the heart of it wants them to kill more.
00:15:18.180And it's a hard thought to actually comprehend, but I think we're making a lot of progress.
00:15:54.980And, Joshua, I really have to start to say probably the biggest thing that we've seen since the book has come out has been this wave of assassinations and assassination attempts that have gone on throughout the country since the book's inception.
00:16:11.380Now, one of the first ones that we saw was a school shooting, so not directly tied to an assassination per se, but this, of course, was Audrey Hale.
00:16:23.180Then we saw, of course, the book was released the same week that Thomas Matthew Brooks, another Zoomer, attempted to kill President Trump.
00:16:33.520Of course, Ryan Wesley Routh, another would-be assassin, attempted to kill President Trump.
00:16:38.140We saw the wave of the Tesla bombings, the attacks there.
00:16:43.540And even as we are just talking about this, we're still trying to figure out what exactly happened up in Idaho with this completely insane individual who was set afire as a trap to lure in firefighters and murder them as they arrived.
00:17:04.280And, of course, the quintessential one that we all know about, which happened in December after the book came out, was Luigi Maggioni.
00:17:14.160Joshua, were you shocked or surprised at all to see leftists reverting to this type of behavior, specifically that of Luigi Maggioni?
00:17:26.300This is what they do every single time, like we say in the book.
00:17:32.500The first attempt at seeking power that the far left has always done is using manipulation, coercion, sleight of hand, trickery.
00:17:45.600One such preferred tactic is called, that Lenin figured out, Vladimir Lenin during the Bolshevik Revolution, was called the dual power strategy,
00:17:52.520where you start a separate, independent, seemingly grassroots organization while you try to infiltrate the mainstream or democratic institution.
00:18:02.480And then once you have enough power in both of them and the so-called grassroots one is powerful enough,
00:18:09.500you combine them together and then you make your ideology the law of the land and vote yourself the stuff of citizens that you don't like.
00:18:16.740That's the sort of the coercive, manipulative, sneaky way.
00:18:22.320And then there's just straight up ditches and pistols.
00:18:27.900There are the random street killings, the assassination attempts of the opposition.
00:18:34.640And so we have seen all of the above in the form of domestic terrorism from far leftists,
00:18:40.000from Thomas Matthew Crooks, the act blue donor, to the Biden and Kamala Harris supporter, Ryan Wesley-Roth,
00:18:46.600who made it very clear why he wanted to attempt to assassinate President Donald J. Trump.
00:18:51.820And he wrote up his manifesto, which sort of, in my opinion, read a bit like what you'll see commentators on MSNBC say.
00:19:00.940It's very similar sort of rhetoric that's violent and seems to be desiring to take it to violence because we just have to do it.
00:19:25.780And when it comes to when it comes to Maggioni, does it surprise you that he sparked this massive public following this fandom of his across really across the country?
00:19:39.740I'm in the D.C. area and I see I see Luigi bumper stickers.
00:19:45.760You had mainstream comedians like Bill Burr call for Luigi to be freed, even though his, you know, I mean, he's on trial,
00:19:54.480but he's he's on video and has not really, you know, put up much of a defense saying that it wasn't him on the video who conducted this street assassination of a health care CEO.
00:20:09.600Here's what is so interesting about it is within the left wing.
00:20:12.460And this is also this talked about in the book on humans during the French Revolution, during the Russian Revolution, during every overthrow of established order by far leftists.
00:20:24.160There is a sort of a quiet civil war between the radicals and the normies on the far left and the case of the Russian Revolution.
00:20:34.540This was the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks.
00:20:37.420It was the socialists versus the communists.
00:20:39.960And so you have, let's say, a contrast between Luigi Mangione, a Bolshevik and Bernie Sanders, a Menshevik, where the idea is, you know, it's not fair that health care companies have so much profit and there's so much suffering.
00:21:55.100You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:21:56.480We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:21:58.800But we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:22:02.260All right, Jack Posovic, here we are back live.
00:22:08.440Unhumans, the one year anniversary of the New York Times bestseller that they're still mad about, still mad at us.
00:22:17.680I still get, I can type in a Twitter box every day the words Unhumans, and it's just people blasting me from the left.
00:22:24.860But also people cheering us from the right.
00:22:28.380And obviously just common sense, regular people who say, you know what, I didn't understand why communism is popular until I read this book.
00:22:39.900One of the reasons is they don't call it communism until much later.
00:22:43.120By the way, we actually printed a secret speech that was given in Cambodia by Pol Pot himself, basically admitting that this is exactly what they do.
00:22:57.440That they went in and they were like, well, yeah, we couldn't call it communism at first, but we infiltrated the academia.
00:23:14.720It's one of the first times you'll find in English this secret speech printed in a publication from Pol Pot to the people of the party, which was now known as the Khmer Rouge or the Communist Party of Cambodia.
00:23:29.960But Joshua, you were talking about the fandom of Luigi Maggioni.
00:23:36.020And these things arise when you come into a situation where, you know, you do have these massive dispersals of, and we're just going to call it, right?
00:23:46.600We point out many times in the book when people say, well, it's inequality, it's inequality, it's inequality.
00:23:52.660And there are inequalities, by the way.
00:23:55.760And it's something that conservatives get wrong all the time, and they say, oh, well, there's inequality, so you should just not worry about it, or you should just pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
00:24:06.140But what happens when those disparities become so huge, when people can't afford rent in New York City, and yet they see Jeff Bezos is able to rent out all of Venice for his massive star-studded wedding, and people start to get upset.
00:24:23.480And eventually, emotionally, along comes Luigi Maggioni or, I don't know, say, an enterprising young immigrant from Uganda, although of Indian extraction, and says, perhaps we can just vote to take those people's stuff away and redistribute it to you yourselves.
00:24:50.200That's the exact same city that is now cheering, many, many people in that city cheering Luigi Maggioni, who was shot just a few miles away.
00:25:01.560Or, excuse me, conducted his killing just a few miles away, where he killed his victim.
00:25:05.340So, you know, you see these same forces and same pressures brought to bear.
00:25:11.160And Steve Bannon, of course, famously said at one of the speeches he was giving, one of these talks to media, and he was explaining populism.
00:25:21.480And he said, look, there's—and he was basically preaching the gospel of unhuman, saying, look, you either get us with MAGA or you get Luigi Maggioni.
00:25:31.740And now you've got a guy who very well may be the next mayor of New York City, who's saying what?
00:25:38.960Redistribute the wealth, who's saying put higher taxes on white neighborhoods, who's saying that we need to seize the means of production, who wants government-run food centers.
00:26:11.800Yes, a phrase that I'm liking to call him Kami Mamdani that he has been using is class consciousness, which, of course, is an expression that was popularized by Karl Marx in the very first—over the very first communists.
00:26:25.820And if we're going to look at that phrase, well, what does it mean to be class conscious?
00:26:30.560It means that there is the rich and there is the poor, and there's not a whole lot of separation between them.
00:26:36.300During the Industrial Revolution, Europe and other Western countries saw this quite a bit, where there were those who owned the factories, who owned the manufacturing supply chains, who were sitting high and large as sort of a self-appointed aristocracy, and they had great power and privilege.
00:26:52.760And then there were the working poor, who couldn't afford good homes, who couldn't afford good education for their kids, who couldn't afford, frankly, nutrition.
00:27:01.500And they were working the modern equivalent of basically two, three or more jobs.
00:27:07.420And you had this severe, true inequality during the Industrial Revolution.
00:27:13.400And class consciousness is this idea that that is the most important aspect of society, is that there are the haves and the have-nots.
00:27:23.240And the haves only have by exploiting perpetually the have-nots.
00:27:30.720And so, because this is unfair, we need to make it equal.
00:27:36.920Now, what happens often in this equalizing situation is we need to get revenge.
00:27:44.420We need to make the powerful and the privileged feel what we have.
00:27:49.660We need to make them suffer, which is why those participants of the Haitian Revolution, the Communist Revolution, when they were later interviewed, following the success of the Revolution, they would say things like, in English, for example,
00:29:41.500But then what they did was, exactly as you say, they allowed all of the communist groups, what we would call the Antifa of today or the BLM groups of the area, to be essentially deputized as a form of law enforcement and a form of a people's court system, taken directly from the French Revolution verbatim, by the way,
00:30:06.700where the people's court now got to decide who would live, who would die, who would be in charge of the parish, who would be in charge of society.
00:30:15.380And they started killing, oh, who, the priests and the nuns, exactly as what happened in the French Revolution 200 years prior, because this is what they do.
00:30:25.800So, Joshua, to your point is exactly right.
00:30:28.220They use this thin veneer of moderation to take power, and then they empower the Maggionis and the extremists and the worst elements of their side.
00:30:40.060This is also why in France, or excuse me, in Russia, by the way, you have the two revolutions.
00:30:44.400You have the February Revolution followed by the October Revolution, where the February Revolution took out the Tsar, but then they had the Russian Republic for about five minutes.
00:30:54.780And the October Revolution was when the Bolsheviks came up and said, no, this isn't going fast enough.
00:30:59.440We're just going to kill all you guys.
00:31:03.820And sometimes it's a little more targeted, not obvious, so that there's not a military response, which is what we talk about in the book Unhumans,
00:31:11.040that the United States has gone through a low-intensity conflict of an irregular communist revolutionary war,
00:31:18.440meaning it's been below the point of military reaction or response being, or even, let's say, significant nationwide policing being necessary with the infiltration of academia and entertainment and government,
00:31:34.380where it sort of slowly happens without people realizing it.
00:31:38.020And this is the same sort of warfare that belligerents against the United States have been using after the Cold War because they do not want to draw the ire and fire of the United States military.
00:31:49.900It's the same concept here with an irregular revolution.
00:31:52.760If we can make it happen slow enough, the people won't notice what's happening.
00:31:57.880And then those of us who call out what's happening, they attack and say, no, that's not happening.
00:32:02.880And then when it does, they say, no, that's not happening, and it's good that it is.
00:32:08.280Well, this is also why we see the same tactic of the softening up, what we call anarcho-tyranny, where one of these other tactics that they do is rather than have police for the violent elements of society,
00:32:23.260they allow those violent elements of society to be released into the general populace so that they can terrorize essentially the middle class.
00:32:34.180I believe I saw a headline recently that there was going back to New York again.
00:32:39.160And New York City is a perfect example of this because it is America's greatest city.
00:32:43.720And the health of America's greatest city absolutely portends the trajectory and direction of our country.
00:32:50.320And so why are we talking about this so much when we talk about unhumans?
00:32:54.240Because you can see all of these things playing out within just a few, you know, a couple mile radius of each other, these same forces on America's greatest city streets.
00:33:04.320And so when you look at the release of violent criminals, this, again, is a tactic to terrorize the middle class, to terrorize the populace, to terrorize you tourists and you regular folks who would be law-abiding.
00:33:23.020You are the ones who are the targets because you always are.
00:33:29.420Yes, and what we have often seen throughout these communist revolutions, we talk about this in the book as well, is they often happen within cities, within cities.
00:33:42.060Because when you take over a city, you can infiltrate that government, you can distribute it from there.
00:33:47.360That can become sort of your nerve center for the revolution.
00:33:50.760And a video that has just gone viral as of this recording depicts our New York commie, Mamdani.
00:34:00.200He is giving an interview and he's eating rice rather messingly with his hands, with his fingertips, which is something that is known to do in the third world.
00:34:15.160Having come from, actually coming from a position of power and privilege with his mother being an acclaimed film director and his father having been an Ivy League professor, he's not eating with his hands.
00:34:26.520He's doing it for the same reason that Joseph Stalin would wear the simple party dress, the same reason that Mao Zedong would dress as a pauper, as a peasant, as a farm worker.
00:38:31.160And what lesson they took from the 2024 election loss was not we need to be more moderate.
00:38:37.920They said, no, we need to be more radical.
00:38:40.420We need to use not just veiled Marxist talking points.
00:38:44.920We need to quote Marxism, quote the Communist Manifesto, quote and use these exact expressions like class consciousness.
00:38:54.360And so the lesson they took was the left, we simply need to become more radical.
00:38:58.560And there is a significant percentage of the population, maybe even some of your neighbors, certainly your fellow voters, who when they hear what the Mensheviks or the Bolsheviks are saying or doing, they say, oh, I support that.
00:39:14.760Remember, the same sort of people who sent those love letters in fan mail to the street assassin, Luigi Mangione, those are the same populations who voted for Kami Mamdani in the New York City Democratic primary.
00:39:32.140And what's key here, and we only have a couple of minutes left.
00:39:36.480I wish we had another hour, but I have to get you back on, Joshua, because this book tells you how to disrupt this type of behavior.