Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - This Is Why Putin Doesn't Want The War To End

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.220 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.020 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:48.920 Christ is king.

00:00:50.380 I went on a left-leaning podcast and they asked me about my son and I said he was, you know,

00:00:58.420 he's a football player and he wants to be a policeman.

00:01:02.800 And their joke was, about my 15-year-old son, oh, how does he feel about minorities?

00:01:07.280 Like the idea that he wants to be a policeman, therefore he's racist, my son. 0.99

00:01:10.600 And I thought to myself, this is why you f***ers are losing elections. 0.99

00:01:14.340 Harvard has to understand, the last thing I want to do is hurt them. 0.99

00:01:18.640 They're hurting themselves.

00:01:19.660 They're fighting.

00:01:20.100 You know, Columbia has been really, and they were very, very bad what they've done.

00:01:25.580 They're very anti-Semitic and lots of other things.

00:01:28.900 But they're working with us on finding a solution.

00:01:32.600 And, you know, they're taking off that hot seat.

00:01:35.380 But Harvard wants to fight.

00:01:36.680 They want to show how smart they are.

00:01:38.400 President Trump threatening to cut federal funding to California if it continues to permit

00:01:43.960 transgender athletes to compete in women's sports. 0.69

00:01:47.220 Secretary of State Marco Rubio signed this cable, directing U.S. embassies to temporarily

00:01:51.920 stop scheduling new student visa appointments as the Trump administration works to expand

00:01:57.560 social media screenings for applicants.

00:01:59.460 Well, remember, just a couple weeks ago, AOC went on social media saying if we put a finger

00:02:03.840 on any of our co-workers, the congresspeople that were at our Newark facility, there'd be

00:02:09.720 consequences.

00:02:11.220 Well, guess what?

00:02:12.120 We did it.

00:02:13.080 I'm waiting on the consequences.

00:02:14.180 President Trump is considering new sanctions on Russia as he warns Vladimir Putin over repeated

00:02:19.040 attacks on Ukraine with no peace deal in sight.

00:02:23.800 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:27.340 We are here live from Budapest, Hungary today.

00:02:31.100 Today is May 28th, 2025.

00:02:34.260 Anno Domini.

00:02:35.820 And by the way, happy birthday, mom.

00:02:38.440 Folks, today, I wish we could just sit here and talk about my mom and all the wonderful

00:02:44.640 love that she brought into the world and to my life.

00:02:48.020 But unfortunately, we have other things, more pressing things to get to.

00:02:53.040 And the text messages of Elias Rodriguez have been leaked.

00:02:59.020 Now, Elias Rodriguez is the main suspect in the street killing of two Israeli embassy staffers

00:03:06.560 from last week in Washington, D.C.

00:03:09.180 This individual can be seen supposedly on video shooting a young woman in the back.

00:03:16.660 And as she attempts to crawl away, she doesn't die.

00:03:20.020 And as she attempts to crawl away from him, he then reloads his handgun and begins firing

00:03:26.200 at her again and again and again, killing her before she is able to get away as she was

00:03:34.720 attempting to while still alive.

00:03:36.140 Well, his text messages have been leaked.

00:03:40.000 And a left-wing blogger has them.

00:03:43.160 Some very interesting reading that people could dig into on this.

00:03:47.600 One of the lines jumped out at me was this.

00:03:50.020 You probably would have to actually genocide white people, he says, to make this America 0.97

00:03:57.960 a normal country. 0.83

00:03:59.820 Like even a very targeted and selected rehabilitation program would probably have led to the lifetime

00:04:07.100 imprisonment of tens of millions of white people.

00:04:11.320 So for him, white genocide is something that is on the table. 0.56

00:04:16.780 This hatred that he has, and people were saying, well, is he anti-Semitic? 0.94

00:04:22.360 Did he hate Jewish people?

00:04:24.000 Obviously, he killed two Israeli staffers in cold blood. 0.98

00:04:27.680 Well, as it turns out, his direct hatred was of white people. 1.00

00:04:33.100 Maybe they just hate white people and want to kill them. 1.00

00:04:37.540 We have it now in their own words. 1.00

00:04:40.920 In the words of a D.C. street assassin, alleged street assassin, we need to genocide all the 0.99

00:04:49.040 white people. 0.99

00:04:50.060 And in doing his part, he decided to shoot these two Israeli staffers because apparently that's 0.97

00:04:55.740 how he views the conflict in most of the left, views the conflict this way between Israel 0.95

00:05:01.160 and Gaza, as white people versus brown people.

00:05:04.640 That's how it's coded.

00:05:06.040 That's how he reacted. 1.00

00:05:07.740 He hated them because he hates white people. 0.98

00:05:11.800 This is what we wrote about in Unhumans last year. 0.97

00:05:15.140 And you're now seeing it play out, unfortunately, on the streets of Washington.

00:05:20.260 D.C.

00:05:20.560 We'll be right back here.

00:05:21.580 We're live from Budapest, Hungary.

00:05:24.620 Human West Daily.

00:05:25.260 To understand what America first truly means.

00:05:28.780 Welcome to the second American revolution.

00:05:35.560 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are very excited to be here live in Budapest, Hungary for this

00:05:42.220 edition of Human Events Daily.

00:05:44.380 CPAC Hungary is kicking off very soon.

00:05:46.880 And we were speaking earlier today at the EU-US forum here in Budapest that was kicking off

00:05:53.860 a little bit earlier to that.

00:05:55.820 So we brought some guests on from that on the show today.

00:05:58.800 And I wanted to bring one of them on right now from the United Kingdom.

00:06:03.120 It's Jim Ferguson and a reporter out there, a journalist, someone who's very up on all

00:06:08.700 of the issues affecting Europe and how it affects the West.

00:06:11.700 Jim, thanks so much for coming on with us.

00:06:13.200 It's my absolute pleasure, Jack.

00:06:14.500 Delighted to be on with you.

00:06:15.300 So when we're here discussing these situations, globalism, nationalism, why is it so important

00:06:24.440 for conservatives, patriots, populists to meet and have this exchange of ideas when we're

00:06:32.260 fighting up against Davos and Brussels and all the rest?

00:06:35.620 Well, because they're very good at organizing against us.

00:06:38.440 And the likes of the US-EU forum is incredibly important to bring conservative voices and patriotic

00:06:43.180 voices together.

00:06:43.960 We saw that very powerfully today.

00:06:45.940 And they are actually tackling the big issues that really matter to our respective countries.

00:06:51.080 The United Kingdom is all sorts of trouble right now with a far-left prime minister called

00:06:55.940 Keir Starmer.

00:06:56.940 He's locking up Christians.

00:06:58.100 He's censoring people.

00:06:59.040 He's putting people in prison just for reporting the news.

00:07:01.180 It really is quite a dystopian nightmare.

00:07:03.780 And we value very much our American friends and allies coming across and showing an interest,

00:07:08.700 not just in the UK, but here in Hungary as well.

00:07:10.860 And previously in Romania as well at the election of George Simeon as the candidate there.

00:07:17.160 So we saw a huge American support come in and we appreciate it.

00:07:20.900 Well, that's incredible.

00:07:21.700 Now, one of the big pieces that I've been meaning to get into on the program here, and

00:07:26.440 since we're, we're, and so folks know the geography, we're here in Budapest.

00:07:30.700 We are only a few miles away from the border with Ukraine, and there's been this huge escalation

00:07:38.320 over the last 24, 48 hours.

00:07:41.820 Ukraine attacking Putin, Putin responding, Ukraine responding, drone strikes, President

00:07:47.180 Trump coming out saying, what happened to the ceasefire?

00:07:50.280 What happened to the peace deal?

00:07:51.900 I have my thoughts on it.

00:07:53.360 Let me get your thoughts on it too.

00:07:54.460 Well, there's a huge number of people within the European elites that don't actually want

00:07:59.900 a peace deal.

00:08:00.720 They have their own reasons for it.

00:08:02.600 President Trump has done a remarkable job since he got into office.

00:08:06.220 He's solved so many problems and issues.

00:08:08.800 But the Ukraine one is still eluding everybody.

00:08:11.660 And it's really primarily because Zelensky doesn't want to leave office.

00:08:16.080 He believes if he leaves office, he's going to become vulnerable.

00:08:18.440 There's a huge amount of money that's come in from the United States taxpayer, British,

00:08:23.540 European taxpayers, that is actually unaccounted for.

00:08:26.500 He's admitted himself there's about 100 billion.

00:08:28.420 He doesn't know where it went.

00:08:29.680 Well, there's that.

00:08:30.820 But I think what Putin is upset about right now, and I'm not a Putin apologist at all,

00:08:35.020 but I think if you look at it historically, there were grievances there.

00:08:39.080 Historically going back, the formation of the Minsk Agreement, which Merkel and Francois

00:08:43.880 Hollande admitted was only a front to allow Zelensky and Ukraine to rearm.

00:08:49.160 So when you do a negotiation at the international level like that and you break your word,

00:08:54.160 you lose respect internationally.

00:08:55.780 It's the same in business.

00:08:56.660 Well, and this is what's caused the situation for President Trump to step into now to say,

00:09:03.380 all right, let's make a deal.

00:09:05.080 And of course, the Russians are saying, well, the last deal was broken.

00:09:08.180 And it seems to me that this escalation has – it's the answer to the first round of negotiations.

00:09:15.540 The answer is no.

00:09:17.060 We don't want the ceasefire.

00:09:18.340 We don't want a frozen conflict from both sides, by the way.

00:09:20.700 Putin and Zelensky both want to keep this going.

00:09:24.100 And it seems to me – and by the way, what was it really that started this initial round of escalation?

00:09:31.740 This initial round, I think it was because Zelensky is looking for more and more money.

00:09:36.620 He's never stopped asking for more and more money, weapons, systems, where in actual fact,

00:09:42.440 if President Trump had been in office at the time, I'd honestly believe the war would never have happened.

00:09:46.620 He does understand how to do a deal.

00:09:48.660 He does understand how to negotiate.

00:09:50.120 And more importantly, Vladimir Putin respects Trump because he sees him as a strongman, which he is.

00:09:55.800 They both actually have a high degree of respect for each other.

00:09:59.120 But you saw what happened with the White House scenario where Zelensky was there acting up with President Trump.

00:10:05.180 Not a good idea.

00:10:05.980 Yes, and I was in the room with Zelensky and Besant about a week prior to that, and it was a similar situation.

00:10:13.300 Yeah.

00:10:13.780 So what we need to see now is I think maybe pressure put on the Europeans in actual fact

00:10:19.160 because they're the ones who are, I suppose, really covering for Zelensky now.

00:10:23.860 And I think what I would like to see is –

00:10:25.760 And when in the midst of all this, Putin goes down and he's taking a helicopter tour of the Kursk region, which is within Russia proper.

00:10:34.700 It's not one of the disputed regions that's currently at common.

00:10:39.020 So he's visiting Russia proper.

00:10:40.820 And then the Ukrainians, they tried to take him out. 0.98

00:10:43.840 Well, they put 40 drones in to try and take his helicopter out.

00:10:46.220 So of course he's going to be upset about that.

00:10:47.780 But, I mean, I think that there is a real danger that this escalates.

00:10:52.360 And the last thing anybody wants – America doesn't want it.

00:10:55.240 I don't think Russia wants it either – is a third world war because if that happens, it could be casual. 0.90

00:11:01.020 And this is the big threat.

00:11:01.960 And, you know, there are people on the left who they try to take me out of – kind of say,

00:11:06.080 oh, you care about Poland so much, and I just spoke in Poland.

00:11:09.880 So, you know, if you care about Poland so much, why is it that you're not wanting to increase the war in Ukraine?

00:11:17.500 I said, it's because I care about Poland.

00:11:19.260 And I want to make sure that, you know, everyone knows you're listening right now on the Salem Radio Network.

00:11:24.500 You're watching live on Real America's Voice.

00:11:26.980 We are here live in Hungary, Budapest, Hungary, only miles away from the Ukrainian border

00:11:32.160 and also miles away from the Polish border.

00:11:34.420 That was Slovakia, you know, sort of sandwiched in between there in the mountains.

00:11:37.200 But the point is, is that this region is so small, and it can be such a powder keg

00:11:42.100 and historically has been such a powder keg for World War I, for World War II, and hopefully not World War III.

00:11:51.280 So the goal is to take a step further and say, you know, are you for this side, are you for that side?

00:11:57.380 No, I'm against World War III.

00:11:59.040 And so if I'm against World War III, that doesn't mean I have to agree or justify anything that Russia has done. 0.64

00:12:05.620 I certainly don't.

00:12:06.780 And at the same time, I don't have to be a Zelensky supporter either, is to say we all need to pull back.

00:12:13.100 And I think that's generally where Trump's at.

00:12:15.380 I would absolutely agree with that.

00:12:16.740 I think it's a very accurate, very good assessment.

00:12:18.420 And I think we're starting to see evidence of that playing out.

00:12:21.620 We need cooler heads to prevail.

00:12:23.560 Unfortunately, I don't believe Zelensky is a cool head at all.

00:12:25.920 I think he has other invested interests in there that would like to see it continue.

00:12:29.460 And he's desperate to bring Europe in, and he's desperate to engage with Article 5.

00:12:34.120 If he could try to trigger that, then it would bring in the other NATO members.

00:12:37.900 And, of course, Zelensky and Sarkozy, Sarkozy and Zavrov, the foreign minister, has made it very clear.

00:12:46.360 Well, Sarkozy's running around too.

00:12:47.740 Sarkozy is actually, it was a Freudian slip there, Jack.

00:12:50.160 He has been running around.

00:12:50.940 He has been running around doing things in Romania, which he shouldn't have been doing either.

00:12:55.020 Taking money from the Chinese too, by the way.

00:12:57.280 There's a lot to uncover here.

00:12:58.740 But I think, really, we have a real opportunity with Trump in the White House.

00:13:02.460 He wants peace.

00:13:03.340 He has the skills to do it.

00:13:04.880 But we need to make sure that those people within Europe, those that are globalists, that are pursuing this particular agenda, are reined in.

00:13:13.000 And I think Trump is the man to do it.

00:13:15.040 If he speaks to them and puts the cards on the table and gets them to prevail, we might see peace.

00:13:20.440 But the alternative isn't worth considering.

00:13:22.600 I was on Steve Bannon's program, War Room, earlier today.

00:13:26.680 And he brought up this question.

00:13:28.540 And I said, it's the reason that Russia is not accepting the ceasefire.

00:13:33.320 You have to understand the reasons for why Russia went to war in the first place.

00:13:37.520 A ceasefire isn't enough for them.

00:13:39.120 They want the big deal.

00:13:41.180 They want a big deal normalizing relations between at least the United States and Russia, if not, as you say, the rest of Europe.

00:13:48.160 Because they know that Trump's only going to be there for another three and a half years.

00:13:52.600 He's gone.

00:13:53.700 Who's to say that the next person isn't going to immediately start up all of these problems yet again,

00:13:58.880 talking about putting Ukraine back into NATO, putting NATO forces back into Ukraine,

00:14:04.060 doing all of these things that the Russian military and the Russian intelligentsia have said that they view as a threat.

00:14:10.880 And even the liberals in Russia, as their politics runs, you know, liberal to conserve, still view that as a threat.

00:14:17.400 The same way I've likened it to, you know, if we found out in America that the Chinese Communist Party were putting troops in Canada or Mexico,

00:14:26.700 of course we would take that as a threat.

00:14:28.320 Obviously we would take that as a threat.

00:14:30.120 We're coming up on our first or second break here, rather, I should say.

00:14:33.280 So you're on with human events daily.

00:14:36.760 You've got Jack Posobiec.

00:14:37.940 You've got Jim Ferguson from the UK.

00:14:40.820 We're breaking down everything that's happening here in Europe.

00:14:43.760 The fight against the globalists, the fight for God, the fight for country, the fight for sovereignty.

00:14:50.420 Sovereignists, nationalists, populists.

00:14:53.600 Do you put your people first or do you put your transnational government first?

00:15:02.380 We think we know which one it is.

00:15:04.040 So you're live on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Network.

00:15:07.320 We'll be right back.

00:15:13.740 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:15:16.360 These are influencers.

00:15:18.280 And they're friends of mine.

00:15:20.620 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:22.120 Where's Jack?

00:15:23.080 Jack.

00:15:24.100 He's done a great job.

00:15:25.560 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:15:30.200 We are back.

00:15:31.120 Real America's Voice and live on the Salem Radio Network.

00:15:34.840 Hour 3, Charlie Kirk.

00:15:36.000 We're here coming to you live from Budapest, Hungary.

00:15:39.120 Because, folks, we are fighting the globalists all over the planet.

00:15:43.600 And as it turns out, there are allies in our fight to be found all around the world as well.

00:15:50.080 I was in Poland yesterday.

00:15:52.220 Now we're here in Hungary.

00:15:54.000 But we're also talking to friends from the United Kingdom.

00:15:57.480 And we've got Jim Ferguson here.

00:15:59.100 Now, Jim, one of the things that was spoken of at the EU-U.S. forum earlier today,

00:16:04.540 and J.D. Vance has made a huge issue of this.

00:16:06.780 Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, just released a huge missive saying that

00:16:10.840 visas will no longer be allowed for foreign officials who violate the ideals of freedom of speech.

00:16:19.460 Now, for Americans, he said this for Americans, but that you can actually have your visa canceled,

00:16:25.020 denied access to the United States if you violate freedom of speech.

00:16:29.920 Why is the Secretary of State targeting this so much for foreign officials?

00:16:34.120 Because Marco Rubio understands fully, as does J.D. Vance, vice president,

00:16:37.760 that there is a huge problem of free speech and censorship going on across the European nations and the U.K. itself.

00:16:45.000 We are being censored.

00:16:46.060 Journalists are being locked up.

00:16:47.500 We are not allowed to say what we think.

00:16:49.480 We're not even allowed to.

00:16:50.460 The last I saw is that stay-at-home moms and housewives are getting locked up for two and a half years over tweets that have been deleted.

00:16:59.840 Whilst child rapists get out on much lighter sentences.

00:17:03.420 Horrifying.

00:17:04.060 It is absolutely horrifying.

00:17:05.340 And I think our friends in America understand the importance of freedom of speech.

00:17:08.900 The Bill of Rights, the Constitution is enshrined in your laws.

00:17:13.060 And even in the United Kingdom, we have the Magna Carta, of course, as well.

00:17:16.580 And we are sometimes referred to as the mother of all parliaments because we took democracy out in many different ways.

00:17:21.980 But the problem is we have globalists now.

00:17:24.300 And you're right to mention that.

00:17:26.000 It is a fight against globalism.

00:17:27.460 And the only way we're going to combat it, Jack, is to unite around the world, all of our nations together as patriots.

00:17:33.520 When I had a long layover at Heathrow a couple of weeks ago, I was coming back from the conclave.

00:17:39.720 And while I was there, I was on, you know, in the international terminal, but I'm on, you know, British soil.

00:17:44.240 And I said, I wonder what things I can post without Keir Starmer coming to arrest me.

00:17:49.200 So I was going and finding all of the choice Bible quotes from the Old Testament and some stuff from the New as well.

00:17:56.680 I said, surely, surely I can't get in trouble for just Bible quotes, right?

00:18:01.440 And then I said, and then I thought, well, you know, if I'm going to post from the Bible, I might as well post from other holy books that are accepted here in the UK.

00:18:09.700 So I started posting from the Koran.

00:18:14.580 And boy, did I get in trouble for that one.

00:18:17.160 I bet you did.

00:18:17.740 I said, what, I'm just posting from the religious texts of the large, there's no problem with that.

00:18:23.800 And just some basic guidelines for how to deal with marriage from the Koran.

00:18:27.960 I don't see what the problem with that is, Keir Starmer, right?

00:18:31.320 Right.

00:18:31.700 Well, he doesn't want too many people knowing what that message is about.

00:18:35.460 But there are preachers, street preachers being arrested, taken away in handcuffs by police officers here in the United Kingdom.

00:18:42.220 It's gone beyond dystopian.

00:18:43.680 And that's really what prompted me.

00:18:45.220 And priests for praying silently.

00:18:49.380 Yeah, in their minds.

00:18:50.800 Yes.

00:18:50.960 So it's becoming a thought crime now, Jack.

00:18:52.820 An actual, literal thought crime.

00:18:54.100 An actual, literal thought crime.

00:18:55.720 So he's praying in his mind, even though he's physically just standing there.

00:18:59.100 Yeah.

00:18:59.600 How do you even prove that in Koran?

00:19:00.760 Well, they asked them, were you praying?

00:19:03.660 Yeah.

00:19:04.020 In your mind?

00:19:04.840 Yes.

00:19:05.380 Well, they admitted it.

00:19:06.060 Okay, well, you've broken the law.

00:19:07.800 How does that break the law?

00:19:09.000 It's crazy.

00:19:10.720 It's completely upside down, the idea that.

00:19:13.260 And what J.D. Vance, I think, said in just our last few minutes.

00:19:16.060 Actually, let me ask you this.

00:19:16.940 What J.D. Vance said, though, I think is so important because Europe was the cradle of these values.

00:19:23.080 They came to the United States from Europe.

00:19:25.200 The founders came from Europe, et cetera.

00:19:26.960 And so to see Europe walk away from them, it is mind-boggling to us.

00:19:32.880 So thank you for doing what you do, standing up your fight.

00:19:36.100 We've got about a minute and a half left.

00:19:37.740 Tell people about what your operation is and how they can get involved.

00:19:40.820 So if they go to www.freedomtraininternational.org, it is the fastest-growing, largest freedom movement in the world,

00:19:49.280 which I spent a long time creating.

00:19:51.000 We're a period of 15 months reaching out to many American friends, Canadian friends.

00:19:55.100 And we're all about, primary mission is, uniting patriots internationally.

00:19:59.040 We're bringing people together and we're teaching them how to get ready for whatever comes next,

00:20:03.060 from food preservation to water filtration systems, how to get out of debt,

00:20:07.140 how to form networks within your own community.

00:20:09.180 www.freedomtraininternational.org is where people can go to join us.

00:20:15.280 In fact, it's had so much success.

00:20:17.020 We've got ambassadors now appointed in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, and many other nations.

00:20:22.780 And President Trump has been posting your tweets as well on Truth Social.

00:20:26.740 President Trump has reposted my tweets on Truth Social.

00:20:30.440 And Elon Musk has reposted some of my tweets just quite recently as well.

00:20:34.520 It's amazing the way the world – the world actually is flat right now,

00:20:38.460 but not in the way the Thomas Friedman thought that it would be.

00:20:41.680 Jim, thanks so much for joining us.

00:20:42.840 It's a pleasure to be here with you, Jim.

00:20:43.920 All right, go follow him, folks.

00:20:45.260 That's Jim Ferguson.

00:20:46.480 UK, you'll see him on X.

00:20:48.100 You'll see Elon's posting him.

00:20:49.800 Trump is posting.

00:20:50.800 Everybody's posting this guy.

00:20:52.180 We'll be right back here.

00:20:53.640 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network.

00:20:57.600 Quick break.

00:20:58.060 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:06.080 Where is Jack?

00:21:08.380 Where is he?

00:21:09.660 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:13.320 Great job, Jack.

00:21:14.720 Thank you.

00:21:15.500 What a job you do.

00:21:16.940 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:21:18.120 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.

00:21:22.200 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:21:24.100 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're back here.

00:21:28.240 Budapest, Hungary, Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network, Hour 3.

00:21:32.060 Charlie Kirk.

00:21:33.220 I want to cut now.

00:21:34.160 We have an interview with Matt Maurer's founding board member of the EU-U.S. Forum.

00:21:41.240 Really excited to be here in Budapest, Hungary.

00:21:44.840 Many times visited this city and this country to see the incredible accomplishments of Prime Minister Viktor Orban

00:21:52.820 and what he's done from a conservative perspective.

00:21:56.040 And a new organization has been founded to really explain and shore up that relationship between the United States and the EU.

00:22:05.440 That's the EU-U.S. Forum.

00:22:07.740 And we're very excited to be here with Matt Maurers, who is a founding board member of the forum.

00:22:13.020 What's going on, Matt?

00:22:13.820 Hey, Jack.

00:22:14.500 Thanks for being in Budapest with us.

00:22:15.980 Well, this is incredible.

00:22:16.820 And so, you know, you were in Trump's State Department.

00:22:19.360 Tell me a little bit about the forum.

00:22:20.980 What was the impetus for putting it up together and what is the plan?

00:22:25.240 Sure.

00:22:25.520 So we started the forum early part of last year.

00:22:27.800 We did a big kickoff event in Rome.

00:22:29.780 We had Vivek Ramaswamy come out for it.

00:22:31.540 We did it with the ID party here in the EU. 0.93

00:22:34.840 And a lot of the reason we started it, you know, the other board members are also Trump alumni from the first administration,

00:22:40.500 whether it's Joe Grogan, who is director of domestic policy council under President Trump,

00:22:44.860 John Stefano, who is counselor at the White House.

00:22:46.580 Because what we needed to do was provide a forum, an outlet for the type of conversation on policies, both good and bad,

00:22:54.540 that were coming out of both sides of the Atlantic.

00:22:56.900 And I think one of the things we saw, because we had worked in the Trump administration,

00:23:00.520 I had served in the State Department, was that a lot of the bad ideas that were coming out of the progressive left,

00:23:05.720 the AOCs of the world in the U.S., emanated out of the European Union.

00:23:09.540 Right.

00:23:09.820 Radical environmentalism.

00:23:10.680 You see a lot of these types of forums on the left.

00:23:13.960 Yeah, exactly right.

00:23:15.240 We probably couldn't name all of them.

00:23:17.060 There's endless amounts.

00:23:17.820 I think we do a poor job as populist conservatives of actually engaging others, populist conservatives in other countries.

00:23:24.860 I mean, look, we all believe in sovereignty.

00:23:26.340 We all believe in national identity.

00:23:27.760 We believe that it's part of the fabric of what makes a strong country.

00:23:30.700 But it doesn't mean we shouldn't be talking and engaging around the world.

00:23:34.140 The Democrats do it because it's part of their – and the left do it because it's part of their identity,

00:23:38.380 the global citizen of the world.

00:23:40.160 For us, it's about how do we make sure that we are advocating for our own national interests

00:23:44.740 and doing so around the world.

00:23:46.400 And so if we're all going to push back on these encroachments on free speech,

00:23:49.600 whether it's the types of things we're seeing out of the U.K. and Germany

00:23:53.560 where they can crack down on speech that they deem as hate speech,

00:23:56.640 even if it's just a difference of opinion,

00:23:58.640 whether we're seeing the weaponization of the judicial system that we see in France going after Marine Le Pen,

00:24:04.020 or what we saw in the United States,

00:24:05.700 whether it's the radical environmental policies that are hamstringing countries

00:24:10.020 around their energy security issues,

00:24:12.000 shutting down family farming because of the radical environmental policies,

00:24:15.580 the unchecked migration that we're seeing,

00:24:17.820 the same issues were emanating on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:24:20.340 And we had to provide an outlet for populist conservatives to know who each other were,

00:24:25.080 understand better policies, and also talk about how we can fight back.

00:24:27.900 I've said that there's sort of an irony to it,

00:24:30.660 that in order to combat the encroachment of transnational globalism,

00:24:35.820 it requires an international alliance of anti-globalists,

00:24:40.140 which is sort of the paradox.

00:24:42.320 Yeah.

00:24:42.620 No, no, you're exactly right.

00:24:43.780 I mean, because it's funny, I remember our first event, too.

00:24:46.920 We had a lot of members of the EU parliament,

00:24:48.880 and they said it took an American to come here and say nationalism is okay.

00:24:53.820 Right?

00:24:54.100 Because they kind of, you know, we tend to get a little insular and sometimes dispirited.

00:24:57.880 I mean, when we kicked this off in March of last year,

00:25:00.140 I mean, you had Joe Biden as president or, you know,

00:25:02.740 an auto pen or whoever the hell was actually the president, right?

00:25:04.540 We're starting to learn that, in fact, it wasn't.

00:25:06.980 It may not have been Joe Biden as president.

00:25:08.460 You had, you know.

00:25:10.260 I don't know if there's a login list on that auto pen, by the way.

00:25:13.380 Yeah.

00:25:13.800 And so you had the, you know, left-wing leadership across the continent in the European Union.

00:25:18.440 And so people were kind of dispirited.

00:25:20.020 I mean, we knew we had our work cut out for us.

00:25:21.820 You know, you look at the reaction since then.

00:25:24.380 Last June, you had record number of support for conservative parties,

00:25:27.300 record number of decrease in support for the most left-wing parties.

00:25:30.900 You had, in France, what should have been a great resounding victory for conservatives,

00:25:36.040 but you had Macron's party ally with the far left to try to prevent Marine Le Pen's party

00:25:41.360 from gaining any ground in their national assembly.

00:25:43.500 You had increase in support for conservatives in Germany.

00:25:46.040 You had increased support for conservatives in Italy.

00:25:49.040 And, of course, we had the election of President Trump.

00:25:51.820 And so we've now been able to see a lot of the ideas we were talking about now get put into action here.

00:25:57.340 The key thing, of course, is making sure, especially in Europe, they actually honor the word of their citizens.

00:26:01.960 I mean, what we're seeing is, you're seeing in Germany right now, they'll label the AFD an extremist group.

00:26:06.560 They won't cooperate to put them into the government.

00:26:09.360 You'll see...

00:26:10.200 Oh, and I think the report leaked, and it was because they said some things about,

00:26:15.520 we want to secure our borders, and we don't want George Soros controlling our country.

00:26:19.340 And these were the extremist...

00:26:21.760 Oh, crazy ideas.

00:26:22.620 ...you know, ideas that would, again, as you say, differences of opinion.

00:26:27.100 Right.

00:26:27.300 And that's the problem, right?

00:26:29.020 So we talked, we had a great event this morning with Jason Miller, a panel discussion here in Budapest.

00:26:34.260 And a lot of it focused around free speech because that's the first thing they go after, right?

00:26:39.400 They start trying to encroach on free speech.

00:26:41.100 Then they start trying to go after political parties.

00:26:43.260 Then they start going after political candidates.

00:26:45.400 And it's incredible how the left says they want to protect democracy,

00:26:48.260 only if democracy votes the way they want them to.

00:26:50.840 Well, this was incredible because, and obviously we just saw the situation in Romania regarding that,

00:26:56.660 but Jason mentioned something at the discussion this morning, the panel discussion,

00:27:03.460 as well as something that I think J.D. Vance sort of touched on when he spoke in Munich,

00:27:08.060 another event I attended a few months ago here in Europe,

00:27:11.880 where there's this idea of these new, so there's the tariffs are on, the tariffs are off between the EU,

00:27:16.480 but there's all these questions about trade deals.

00:27:18.140 Jason mentioned that there is a growing sense that the U.S. is going to want to see real commitments to freedom of speech tied to trade.

00:27:30.100 And this is a radical idea, something that I don't think any president has ever tried before.

00:27:35.700 First Amendment, of course, doesn't exist in European constitutions.

00:27:39.620 You won't find things.

00:27:41.180 I personally was detained at the World Economic Forum for doing this show just a couple of years ago.

00:27:47.700 And just speaking, you know, you know, out.

00:27:51.600 And so and I don't get to turn back to the First Amendment and say, oh, well, you can't do this because it doesn't exist.

00:27:57.780 So are you hearing that sense as well about this tie between the First Amendment and these trade deals?

00:28:04.480 Yeah, no, you're seeing the Trump administration say that if we're going to have a real relationship with Europe and look,

00:28:10.440 the Trump administration values the relationship with Europe.

00:28:12.620 I think the left likes to say, oh, well, he's deteriorating the relationship.

00:28:15.620 No, he believes in the relationship.

00:28:17.840 It should be so strong.

00:28:19.040 It has to be based upon truth and honesty.

00:28:21.420 I think that's what J.D. Vance was talking about in his speech at the Munich Security Conference,

00:28:24.560 which is if we're going to have a real dialogue, a real relationship, we have to be honest with each other.

00:28:28.500 We have to have those tough conversations.

00:28:30.440 If we're going to say we're this beacon for, you know, democracy and the cradle of civilization and all these things,

00:28:36.360 you've got to act that way.

00:28:37.640 And he kept pointing out that all of these values come from Europe originally.

00:28:42.260 Exactly.

00:28:42.600 They were transposing that.

00:28:43.980 It didn't exist as a country.

00:28:45.840 And so I think President Trump and his team with Marco Rubio and others, Scott Besson and Jameson Greer,

00:28:52.140 are saying we have to fundamentally reset the European relationship.

00:28:57.060 And so, yes, it's about trade.

00:28:58.520 You know, it's ridiculous that there's as many Audis being driven in the U.S., but no Ford's being driven in Europe.

00:29:03.260 Right?

00:29:03.580 Like, we should fix that.

00:29:04.640 But then we also have to fix the fundamentals.

00:29:07.600 You know, we're going to truly have this relationship moving forward and not just talk about it in the rearview mirror.

00:29:12.740 We have to actually have an honest discussion about what Europe is doing to its own citizens.

00:29:18.160 You know, and you're seeing this crackdown on political parties.

00:29:21.600 You're seeing the crackdown on free speech.

00:29:23.040 You're seeing censorship.

00:29:24.300 You're seeing what they're doing with the Digital Markets Act,

00:29:26.400 which is essentially hamstringing U.S. companies that are trying to provide the platforms

00:29:30.640 and the technology to provide for open dialogue in Europe.

00:29:34.640 You know, Europe's now trying to smack them around.

00:29:36.740 So we need to have an administration that says we're going to reset the dialogue here.

00:29:40.740 We're going to reset the relationship.

00:29:42.080 It's going to be based upon the actual free speech that we talk about, the actual values we talk about.

00:29:47.940 And if we can get that right, we can get the trade right, too.

00:29:50.240 Well, and it all ties together.

00:29:52.740 I mean, there's an obvious connection between the U.S. and Europe.

00:29:56.940 There's obvious reasons to want to have that healthy relationship vis-a-vis so many things.

00:30:02.340 Obviously, the peace deal, which we're certainly hopeful that goes through.

00:30:06.780 We're not very far away from the Ukrainian border right now as we sit.

00:30:10.700 And that's something that Viktor Orban, I think, is obviously not in direct lockstep with the rest of his EU leaders,

00:30:19.080 to say the least, on when it comes to it.

00:30:21.020 But it's also something that is a very salient issue in this part of the world.

00:30:24.760 And so I think listening to these various voices, and that's also something that the forum has done,

00:30:30.200 to come back to the United States and explain, hey, these are real security issues that they have, that goes back to NATO.

00:30:36.720 Yeah, and I remember when I was in the State Department in 2017, 2018.

00:30:41.700 Donald Trump had just won.

00:30:43.280 It was a sea change in the United States.

00:30:45.440 We had to remind the State Department bureaucrats, the career foreign service officers,

00:30:50.720 that there was going to be a new relationship with Hungary and like-minded leaders around the world

00:30:55.280 who were doing things that were so crazy, they said, like secure their borders.

00:30:59.420 So crazy, like saying, like, we should actually have Hungarians determine Hungarian outcomes.

00:31:03.640 Far right.

00:31:04.460 You know, Soros and the rest of them to dump in millions of dollars every year to dictate the outcomes of elections.

00:31:09.820 You know, these were common sense things.

00:31:11.820 And it's amazing, eight years later, we're the ones who have the movement now.

00:31:16.400 We're the ones who actually have, across the world, the understanding from folks that this isn't some fringe idea.

00:31:22.680 This is just common sense.

00:31:23.940 People want safe streets.

00:31:25.000 They want secure borders.

00:31:26.100 They want good jobs.

00:31:27.400 They want economic freedom.

00:31:29.360 These are the fundamental values we need to be talking about on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:31:32.820 And I think those are the types of issues that we're talking about and bringing a spotlight to at the EU-U.S. Forum.

00:31:37.120 Where can people go to get more info of the EU-U.S. Forum, follow the panel and everything that's going on?

00:31:41.820 They can go to euusforum.com.

00:31:43.700 They can follow us on X.

00:31:45.240 They can follow us on other social media channels.

00:31:47.720 And they can find out all the information.

00:31:49.440 Get involved.

00:31:50.020 I mean, we're going to be doing a lot more events on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:31:53.160 We'll have a couple coming up in D.C.

00:31:54.980 We're going to be back here in Europe at some point soon, too.

00:31:58.100 It's really important for us as populist conservatives to actually continue working on this because it's not going to fix itself.

00:32:04.020 Matt Mowers, thank you so much.

00:32:05.220 Thanks so much, Jack.

00:32:07.260 We're back.

00:32:07.980 Jack Posobiec, Budapest, Hungary.

00:32:10.220 You just saw my conversation with Matt Mowers.

00:32:12.460 We've got another special guest of honor here, though, right now.

00:32:17.000 We've got Kevin Posobiec in the household.

00:32:18.900 What's up, K-Poso?

00:32:20.140 What's going on, Posobiec?

00:32:20.880 What's going on?

00:32:21.540 So we've just got a couple of minutes until the break, but we'll bring Kevin back on.

00:32:24.380 Yeah, so Kevin's been running around today doing some man-on-the-street interviews.

00:32:29.480 He's been meeting some people.

00:32:31.680 You've got actually some interesting stories about a NATO referendum that's being held here in Hungary.

00:32:40.160 Yeah, I have.

00:32:42.040 I'll get more into it after the break here.

00:32:44.180 But, yeah, as we were coming in, there's just billboard after billboard of Zelensky on this billboard.

00:32:52.660 And it's Vox 2025, which means vote 2025 in Hungarian.

00:32:58.200 And Orban and the government put forth this, yeah, this national consensus, if you will.

00:33:06.080 So it's a national referendum.

00:33:07.480 A referendum.

00:33:08.020 Sort of a ballot test.

00:33:09.860 Yes.

00:33:10.020 And it's all about Ukraine and NATO.

00:33:11.880 This is huge stuff.

00:33:12.860 See, folks, this is huge because these are stories that affect us in the United States, and yet we don't hear about them because we're not here.

00:33:19.980 I didn't even know about this until Kevin saw these billboards and said, I'm going to track this down because this seems interesting, folks.

00:33:26.940 We will be right back.

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00:33:43.000 Quick break.

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00:35:03.480 All right.

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00:35:13.600 Kev, so we were talking just before in the last segment.

00:35:17.220 I want to correct something I just said.

00:35:18.540 There's a referendum that's going on in Hungary that's coming up very soon regarding whether or not Ukraine should be allowed into the EU.

00:35:29.420 I actually said NATO.

00:35:30.240 Yes.

00:35:30.620 The EU.

00:35:31.000 Yes, EU.

00:35:31.800 Whether or not they should be allowed in.

00:35:34.140 Walk me through this.

00:35:35.500 What are you learning?

00:35:36.540 You're seeing these billboards up all over town.

00:35:39.100 Victor Orban's got them up.

00:35:40.520 He used to put up billboards with George Soros all over town as well when he was running those various operations.

00:35:46.800 Right now he's got these Zelensky ones up tying him to Ursula von der Leiden and these other globalists.

00:35:53.040 So what are you hearing on the ground here?

00:35:54.800 So these are actual billboards now.

00:35:58.580 They're not as modern and whatnot, but he's definitely taking a page from Trump's book and getting involved with the people, as Trump does on X and whatnot.

00:36:10.300 But this is a referendum for Hungarian citizens to participate in a vote.

00:36:15.540 It's uncertified, I think, but it's still a Vox Papouli kind of vote where you can go online, put in your address, and then vote in favor or against Ukraine joining the EU.

00:36:32.880 So when you were out there—

00:36:34.140 So I saw Zelensky's face on the billboard.

00:36:36.000 You went out there to—and we've got some of these images that you sent in.

00:36:39.920 Well, you went out there to the streets today, and I wish we had some of this video for the show, but we'll post it later on social media, so make sure you're following X.

00:36:48.220 Make sure you're following Human Events daily on Twitter as well and following Kevin, at Kevin Posobiec.

00:36:55.060 What were people on the street telling you?

00:36:57.540 Well, believe it or not, I faced some stone walls from a lot of people.

00:37:02.340 Right, right, of course.

00:37:03.340 I did look—I researched a little bit between yesterday and today, and about a million people have voted already.

00:37:10.260 It started about a month ago exactly, and it'll end at the end of June, so there's still a bit of time.

00:37:16.060 So about a million people voted already, and apparently two-thirds have voted against Ukraine joining.

00:37:23.580 So two-thirds of Hungarians have voted against Ukraine being allowed into the EU.

00:37:28.280 Yes, and there's—so there's some sentiment.

00:37:30.900 I got good footage of this guy who's on a moped, whatever, who's in this park.

00:37:36.500 So I went to the parks earlier.

00:37:38.780 Kevin goes to the park.

00:37:40.300 Well, that's where the locals would be at, as opposed to where we're at.

00:37:43.580 It was more touristy, and, you know, you get people from all around the world.

00:37:46.880 Right, right, right.

00:37:46.900 We're down by the river.

00:37:47.960 So, yeah, so I don't know if it was the suit or the locals don't really like tourists, but I got a couple people to open up,

00:37:56.480 and the best I was to get was that the ones that are in favor are in favor, but when?

00:38:04.020 When is the right time?

00:38:05.420 Because they're aware, and it seems that, you know, hopefully the war ends first. 0.67

00:38:13.000 We were hoping for peace negotiations when you were there with Besson.

00:38:17.980 Well, you can't have a country that's at war in—

00:38:21.580 No, no.

00:38:22.320 You know, in—

00:38:23.020 You can't have a country that's still actively at war.

00:38:25.920 Also, because with the conversation with Jim earlier, him and I were talking about there's an idea to create an EU military, to imagine—

00:38:36.560 I mean, I think everybody kind of understands that being accepted into the EU would certainly avow itself of security relationships.

00:38:44.360 Maybe not the NATO guarantee, but a security relationship where European countries then would come and fight for Ukraine rather than the U.S. having that full trigger.

00:38:55.340 Orban knows of the corruption from the Biden regime and whatnot amongst any other crimes in Ukraine.

00:39:04.780 We want to see these—

00:39:06.120 Yeah, he doesn't want Hungarian citizens taxed to get funneled through Brussels to, you know, go away from Hungarians.

00:39:15.640 Yeah, well, people definitely want to see this footage, so where can people go to find the footage?

00:39:20.520 I know you're working on producing it right now.

00:39:22.700 You're going to get out.

00:39:23.440 Where can they go to find it?

00:39:24.260 We're clipping it.

00:39:24.960 We're editing it at Kevin Posobiec.

00:39:27.440 Kevin Posobiec.

00:39:28.680 Got the American flag bandana at X.

00:39:31.560 And Instagram are my most active accounts.

00:39:34.040 X and Instagram.

00:39:35.200 He's always up on the gram, ladies.

00:39:37.100 If you want to follow this guy.

00:39:38.180 So, Kev, what are you getting into?

00:39:39.620 Are you going to find some Hungarian lasses this evening? 1.00

00:39:42.860 Is that the plan?

00:39:43.300 That's true.

00:39:43.940 I got some looks.

00:39:45.420 Oh, some looks.

00:39:46.700 I see.

00:39:47.260 You see, folks.

00:39:47.920 I see what's going on.

00:39:48.800 I bring him over.

00:39:50.080 He's like, I'm going to do man on the street interviews.

00:39:52.820 Yeah, he's talking to all the cute Hungarian girls.

00:39:55.300 Oh, you look like you got some opinions.

00:39:57.820 You want to go viral?

00:39:59.180 That's the plan, huh, Kev?

00:40:00.340 You got a couple nods and winks.

00:40:02.060 Oh, a couple nods and winks.

00:40:03.720 Oh, well, I understand.

00:40:04.480 They say Americans are, like, TV ready, but not so much over here.

00:40:10.120 So, I think there are a little, maybe there's a little thirst.

00:40:13.200 Oh, you got to, you got to coax the, she's playing hard to get, Kev. 0.98

00:40:16.160 She's playing hard to get. 0.90

00:40:16.760 I think there was a little thirst for Americans.

00:40:19.660 Oh, watch out for those green card traps, man. 0.99

00:40:22.640 They'll get you every time.

00:40:23.840 I know.

00:40:24.540 Folks, Jack Posobiec, Kevin Posobiec, we are out here.

00:40:28.160 Budapest, Hungary.

00:40:29.060 Thank you so much for watching Human Events Daily yet again.

00:40:33.320 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

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This Is Why Putin Doesn't Want The War To End

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