Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 28, 2025


This Is Why Putin Doesn't Want The War To End


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

182.60805

Word Count

7,412

Sentence Count

628

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

This is what happens when the 4th Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobrand shares his thoughts on the street killing of two Israeli embassy workers in Washington D.C. by an alleged street assassin.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:39.220 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.020 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:48.920 Christ is king.
00:00:50.380 I went on a left-leaning podcast and they asked me about my son and I said he was, you know,
00:00:58.420 he's a football player and he wants to be a policeman.
00:01:02.800 And their joke was, about my 15-year-old son, oh, how does he feel about minorities?
00:01:07.280 Like the idea that he wants to be a policeman, therefore he's racist, my son.
00:01:10.600 And I thought to myself, this is why you f***ers are losing elections.
00:01:14.340 Harvard has to understand, the last thing I want to do is hurt them.
00:01:18.640 They're hurting themselves.
00:01:19.660 They're fighting.
00:01:20.100 You know, Columbia has been really, and they were very, very bad what they've done.
00:01:25.580 They're very anti-Semitic and lots of other things.
00:01:28.900 But they're working with us on finding a solution.
00:01:32.600 And, you know, they're taking off that hot seat.
00:01:35.380 But Harvard wants to fight.
00:01:36.680 They want to show how smart they are.
00:01:38.400 President Trump threatening to cut federal funding to California if it continues to permit
00:01:43.960 transgender athletes to compete in women's sports.
00:01:47.220 Secretary of State Marco Rubio signed this cable, directing U.S. embassies to temporarily
00:01:51.920 stop scheduling new student visa appointments as the Trump administration works to expand
00:01:57.560 social media screenings for applicants.
00:01:59.460 Well, remember, just a couple weeks ago, AOC went on social media saying if we put a finger
00:02:03.840 on any of our co-workers, the congresspeople that were at our Newark facility, there'd be
00:02:09.720 consequences.
00:02:11.220 Well, guess what?
00:02:12.120 We did it.
00:02:13.080 I'm waiting on the consequences.
00:02:14.180 President Trump is considering new sanctions on Russia as he warns Vladimir Putin over repeated
00:02:19.040 attacks on Ukraine with no peace deal in sight.
00:02:23.800 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:27.340 We are here live from Budapest, Hungary today.
00:02:31.100 Today is May 28th, 2025.
00:02:34.260 Anno Domini.
00:02:35.820 And by the way, happy birthday, mom.
00:02:38.440 Folks, today, I wish we could just sit here and talk about my mom and all the wonderful
00:02:44.640 love that she brought into the world and to my life.
00:02:48.020 But unfortunately, we have other things, more pressing things to get to.
00:02:53.040 And the text messages of Elias Rodriguez have been leaked.
00:02:59.020 Now, Elias Rodriguez is the main suspect in the street killing of two Israeli embassy staffers
00:03:06.560 from last week in Washington, D.C.
00:03:09.180 This individual can be seen supposedly on video shooting a young woman in the back.
00:03:16.660 And as she attempts to crawl away, she doesn't die.
00:03:20.020 And as she attempts to crawl away from him, he then reloads his handgun and begins firing
00:03:26.200 at her again and again and again, killing her before she is able to get away as she was
00:03:34.720 attempting to while still alive.
00:03:36.140 Well, his text messages have been leaked.
00:03:40.000 And a left-wing blogger has them.
00:03:43.160 Some very interesting reading that people could dig into on this.
00:03:47.600 One of the lines jumped out at me was this.
00:03:50.020 You probably would have to actually genocide white people, he says, to make this America
00:03:57.960 a normal country.
00:03:59.820 Like even a very targeted and selected rehabilitation program would probably have led to the lifetime
00:04:07.100 imprisonment of tens of millions of white people.
00:04:11.320 So for him, white genocide is something that is on the table.
00:04:16.780 This hatred that he has, and people were saying, well, is he anti-Semitic?
00:04:22.360 Did he hate Jewish people?
00:04:24.000 Obviously, he killed two Israeli staffers in cold blood.
00:04:27.680 Well, as it turns out, his direct hatred was of white people.
00:04:33.100 Maybe they just hate white people and want to kill them.
00:04:37.540 We have it now in their own words.
00:04:40.920 In the words of a D.C. street assassin, alleged street assassin, we need to genocide all the
00:04:49.040 white people.
00:04:50.060 And in doing his part, he decided to shoot these two Israeli staffers because apparently that's
00:04:55.740 how he views the conflict in most of the left, views the conflict this way between Israel
00:05:01.160 and Gaza, as white people versus brown people.
00:05:04.640 That's how it's coded.
00:05:06.040 That's how he reacted.
00:05:07.740 He hated them because he hates white people.
00:05:11.800 This is what we wrote about in Unhumans last year.
00:05:15.140 And you're now seeing it play out, unfortunately, on the streets of Washington.
00:05:20.260 D.C.
00:05:20.560 We'll be right back here.
00:05:21.580 We're live from Budapest, Hungary.
00:05:24.620 Human West Daily.
00:05:25.260 To understand what America first truly means.
00:05:28.780 Welcome to the second American revolution.
00:05:35.560 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are very excited to be here live in Budapest, Hungary for this
00:05:42.220 edition of Human Events Daily.
00:05:44.380 CPAC Hungary is kicking off very soon.
00:05:46.880 And we were speaking earlier today at the EU-US forum here in Budapest that was kicking off
00:05:53.860 a little bit earlier to that.
00:05:55.820 So we brought some guests on from that on the show today.
00:05:58.800 And I wanted to bring one of them on right now from the United Kingdom.
00:06:03.120 It's Jim Ferguson and a reporter out there, a journalist, someone who's very up on all
00:06:08.700 of the issues affecting Europe and how it affects the West.
00:06:11.700 Jim, thanks so much for coming on with us.
00:06:13.200 It's my absolute pleasure, Jack.
00:06:14.500 Delighted to be on with you.
00:06:15.300 So when we're here discussing these situations, globalism, nationalism, why is it so important
00:06:24.440 for conservatives, patriots, populists to meet and have this exchange of ideas when we're
00:06:32.260 fighting up against Davos and Brussels and all the rest?
00:06:35.620 Well, because they're very good at organizing against us.
00:06:38.440 And the likes of the US-EU forum is incredibly important to bring conservative voices and patriotic
00:06:43.180 voices together.
00:06:43.960 We saw that very powerfully today.
00:06:45.940 And they are actually tackling the big issues that really matter to our respective countries.
00:06:51.080 The United Kingdom is all sorts of trouble right now with a far-left prime minister called
00:06:55.940 Keir Starmer.
00:06:56.940 He's locking up Christians.
00:06:58.100 He's censoring people.
00:06:59.040 He's putting people in prison just for reporting the news.
00:07:01.180 It really is quite a dystopian nightmare.
00:07:03.780 And we value very much our American friends and allies coming across and showing an interest,
00:07:08.700 not just in the UK, but here in Hungary as well.
00:07:10.860 And previously in Romania as well at the election of George Simeon as the candidate there.
00:07:17.160 So we saw a huge American support come in and we appreciate it.
00:07:20.900 Well, that's incredible.
00:07:21.700 Now, one of the big pieces that I've been meaning to get into on the program here, and
00:07:26.440 since we're, we're, and so folks know the geography, we're here in Budapest.
00:07:30.700 We are only a few miles away from the border with Ukraine, and there's been this huge escalation
00:07:38.320 over the last 24, 48 hours.
00:07:41.820 Ukraine attacking Putin, Putin responding, Ukraine responding, drone strikes, President
00:07:47.180 Trump coming out saying, what happened to the ceasefire?
00:07:50.280 What happened to the peace deal?
00:07:51.900 I have my thoughts on it.
00:07:53.360 Let me get your thoughts on it too.
00:07:54.460 Well, there's a huge number of people within the European elites that don't actually want
00:07:59.900 a peace deal.
00:08:00.720 They have their own reasons for it.
00:08:02.600 President Trump has done a remarkable job since he got into office.
00:08:06.220 He's solved so many problems and issues.
00:08:08.800 But the Ukraine one is still eluding everybody.
00:08:11.660 And it's really primarily because Zelensky doesn't want to leave office.
00:08:16.080 He believes if he leaves office, he's going to become vulnerable.
00:08:18.440 There's a huge amount of money that's come in from the United States taxpayer, British,
00:08:23.540 European taxpayers, that is actually unaccounted for.
00:08:26.500 He's admitted himself there's about 100 billion.
00:08:28.420 He doesn't know where it went.
00:08:29.680 Well, there's that.
00:08:30.820 But I think what Putin is upset about right now, and I'm not a Putin apologist at all,
00:08:35.020 but I think if you look at it historically, there were grievances there.
00:08:39.080 Historically going back, the formation of the Minsk Agreement, which Merkel and Francois
00:08:43.880 Hollande admitted was only a front to allow Zelensky and Ukraine to rearm.
00:08:49.160 So when you do a negotiation at the international level like that and you break your word,
00:08:54.160 you lose respect internationally.
00:08:55.780 It's the same in business.
00:08:56.660 Well, and this is what's caused the situation for President Trump to step into now to say,
00:09:03.380 all right, let's make a deal.
00:09:05.080 And of course, the Russians are saying, well, the last deal was broken.
00:09:08.180 And it seems to me that this escalation has – it's the answer to the first round of negotiations.
00:09:15.540 The answer is no.
00:09:17.060 We don't want the ceasefire.
00:09:18.340 We don't want a frozen conflict from both sides, by the way.
00:09:20.700 Putin and Zelensky both want to keep this going.
00:09:24.100 And it seems to me – and by the way, what was it really that started this initial round of escalation?
00:09:31.740 This initial round, I think it was because Zelensky is looking for more and more money.
00:09:36.620 He's never stopped asking for more and more money, weapons, systems, where in actual fact,
00:09:42.440 if President Trump had been in office at the time, I'd honestly believe the war would never have happened.
00:09:46.620 He does understand how to do a deal.
00:09:48.660 He does understand how to negotiate.
00:09:50.120 And more importantly, Vladimir Putin respects Trump because he sees him as a strongman, which he is.
00:09:55.800 They both actually have a high degree of respect for each other.
00:09:59.120 But you saw what happened with the White House scenario where Zelensky was there acting up with President Trump.
00:10:05.180 Not a good idea.
00:10:05.980 Yes, and I was in the room with Zelensky and Besant about a week prior to that, and it was a similar situation.
00:10:13.300 Yeah.
00:10:13.780 So what we need to see now is I think maybe pressure put on the Europeans in actual fact
00:10:19.160 because they're the ones who are, I suppose, really covering for Zelensky now.
00:10:23.860 And I think what I would like to see is –
00:10:25.760 And when in the midst of all this, Putin goes down and he's taking a helicopter tour of the Kursk region, which is within Russia proper.
00:10:34.700 It's not one of the disputed regions that's currently at common.
00:10:39.020 So he's visiting Russia proper.
00:10:40.820 And then the Ukrainians, they tried to take him out.
00:10:43.840 Well, they put 40 drones in to try and take his helicopter out.
00:10:46.220 So of course he's going to be upset about that.
00:10:47.780 But, I mean, I think that there is a real danger that this escalates.
00:10:52.360 And the last thing anybody wants – America doesn't want it.
00:10:55.240 I don't think Russia wants it either – is a third world war because if that happens, it could be casual.
00:11:01.020 And this is the big threat.
00:11:01.960 And, you know, there are people on the left who they try to take me out of – kind of say,
00:11:06.080 oh, you care about Poland so much, and I just spoke in Poland.
00:11:09.880 So, you know, if you care about Poland so much, why is it that you're not wanting to increase the war in Ukraine?
00:11:17.500 I said, it's because I care about Poland.
00:11:19.260 And I want to make sure that, you know, everyone knows you're listening right now on the Salem Radio Network.
00:11:24.500 You're watching live on Real America's Voice.
00:11:26.980 We are here live in Hungary, Budapest, Hungary, only miles away from the Ukrainian border
00:11:32.160 and also miles away from the Polish border.
00:11:34.420 That was Slovakia, you know, sort of sandwiched in between there in the mountains.
00:11:37.200 But the point is, is that this region is so small, and it can be such a powder keg
00:11:42.100 and historically has been such a powder keg for World War I, for World War II, and hopefully not World War III.
00:11:51.280 So the goal is to take a step further and say, you know, are you for this side, are you for that side?
00:11:57.380 No, I'm against World War III.
00:11:59.040 And so if I'm against World War III, that doesn't mean I have to agree or justify anything that Russia has done.
00:12:05.620 I certainly don't.
00:12:06.780 And at the same time, I don't have to be a Zelensky supporter either, is to say we all need to pull back.
00:12:13.100 And I think that's generally where Trump's at.
00:12:15.380 I would absolutely agree with that.
00:12:16.740 I think it's a very accurate, very good assessment.
00:12:18.420 And I think we're starting to see evidence of that playing out.
00:12:21.620 We need cooler heads to prevail.
00:12:23.560 Unfortunately, I don't believe Zelensky is a cool head at all.
00:12:25.920 I think he has other invested interests in there that would like to see it continue.
00:12:29.460 And he's desperate to bring Europe in, and he's desperate to engage with Article 5.
00:12:34.120 If he could try to trigger that, then it would bring in the other NATO members.
00:12:37.900 And, of course, Zelensky and Sarkozy, Sarkozy and Zavrov, the foreign minister, has made it very clear.
00:12:46.360 Well, Sarkozy's running around too.
00:12:47.740 Sarkozy is actually, it was a Freudian slip there, Jack.
00:12:50.160 He has been running around.
00:12:50.940 He has been running around doing things in Romania, which he shouldn't have been doing either.
00:12:55.020 Taking money from the Chinese too, by the way.
00:12:57.280 There's a lot to uncover here.
00:12:58.740 But I think, really, we have a real opportunity with Trump in the White House.
00:13:02.460 He wants peace.
00:13:03.340 He has the skills to do it.
00:13:04.880 But we need to make sure that those people within Europe, those that are globalists, that are pursuing this particular agenda, are reined in.
00:13:13.000 And I think Trump is the man to do it.
00:13:15.040 If he speaks to them and puts the cards on the table and gets them to prevail, we might see peace.
00:13:20.440 But the alternative isn't worth considering.
00:13:22.600 I was on Steve Bannon's program, War Room, earlier today.
00:13:26.680 And he brought up this question.
00:13:28.540 And I said, it's the reason that Russia is not accepting the ceasefire.
00:13:33.320 You have to understand the reasons for why Russia went to war in the first place.
00:13:37.520 A ceasefire isn't enough for them.
00:13:39.120 They want the big deal.
00:13:41.180 They want a big deal normalizing relations between at least the United States and Russia, if not, as you say, the rest of Europe.
00:13:48.160 Because they know that Trump's only going to be there for another three and a half years.
00:13:52.600 He's gone.
00:13:53.700 Who's to say that the next person isn't going to immediately start up all of these problems yet again,
00:13:58.880 talking about putting Ukraine back into NATO, putting NATO forces back into Ukraine,
00:14:04.060 doing all of these things that the Russian military and the Russian intelligentsia have said that they view as a threat.
00:14:10.880 And even the liberals in Russia, as their politics runs, you know, liberal to conserve, still view that as a threat.
00:14:17.400 The same way I've likened it to, you know, if we found out in America that the Chinese Communist Party were putting troops in Canada or Mexico,
00:14:26.700 of course we would take that as a threat.
00:14:28.320 Obviously we would take that as a threat.
00:14:30.120 We're coming up on our first or second break here, rather, I should say.
00:14:33.280 So you're on with human events daily.
00:14:36.760 You've got Jack Posobiec.
00:14:37.940 You've got Jim Ferguson from the UK.
00:14:40.820 We're breaking down everything that's happening here in Europe.
00:14:43.760 The fight against the globalists, the fight for God, the fight for country, the fight for sovereignty.
00:14:50.420 Sovereignists, nationalists, populists.
00:14:53.600 Do you put your people first or do you put your transnational government first?
00:15:02.380 We think we know which one it is.
00:15:04.040 So you're live on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Network.
00:15:07.320 We'll be right back.
00:15:13.740 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:15:16.360 These are influencers.
00:15:18.280 And they're friends of mine.
00:15:20.620 Jack Posobiec.
00:15:22.120 Where's Jack?
00:15:23.080 Jack.
00:15:24.100 He's done a great job.
00:15:25.560 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:15:30.200 We are back.
00:15:31.120 Real America's Voice and live on the Salem Radio Network.
00:15:34.840 Hour 3, Charlie Kirk.
00:15:36.000 We're here coming to you live from Budapest, Hungary.
00:15:39.120 Because, folks, we are fighting the globalists all over the planet.
00:15:43.600 And as it turns out, there are allies in our fight to be found all around the world as well.
00:15:50.080 I was in Poland yesterday.
00:15:52.220 Now we're here in Hungary.
00:15:54.000 But we're also talking to friends from the United Kingdom.
00:15:57.480 And we've got Jim Ferguson here.
00:15:59.100 Now, Jim, one of the things that was spoken of at the EU-U.S. forum earlier today,
00:16:04.540 and J.D. Vance has made a huge issue of this.
00:16:06.780 Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, just released a huge missive saying that
00:16:10.840 visas will no longer be allowed for foreign officials who violate the ideals of freedom of speech.
00:16:19.460 Now, for Americans, he said this for Americans, but that you can actually have your visa canceled,
00:16:25.020 denied access to the United States if you violate freedom of speech.
00:16:29.920 Why is the Secretary of State targeting this so much for foreign officials?
00:16:34.120 Because Marco Rubio understands fully, as does J.D. Vance, vice president,
00:16:37.760 that there is a huge problem of free speech and censorship going on across the European nations and the U.K. itself.
00:16:45.000 We are being censored.
00:16:46.060 Journalists are being locked up.
00:16:47.500 We are not allowed to say what we think.
00:16:49.480 We're not even allowed to.
00:16:50.460 The last I saw is that stay-at-home moms and housewives are getting locked up for two and a half years over tweets that have been deleted.
00:16:59.840 Whilst child rapists get out on much lighter sentences.
00:17:03.420 Horrifying.
00:17:04.060 It is absolutely horrifying.
00:17:05.340 And I think our friends in America understand the importance of freedom of speech.
00:17:08.900 The Bill of Rights, the Constitution is enshrined in your laws.
00:17:13.060 And even in the United Kingdom, we have the Magna Carta, of course, as well.
00:17:16.580 And we are sometimes referred to as the mother of all parliaments because we took democracy out in many different ways.
00:17:21.980 But the problem is we have globalists now.
00:17:24.300 And you're right to mention that.
00:17:26.000 It is a fight against globalism.
00:17:27.460 And the only way we're going to combat it, Jack, is to unite around the world, all of our nations together as patriots.
00:17:33.520 When I had a long layover at Heathrow a couple of weeks ago, I was coming back from the conclave.
00:17:39.720 And while I was there, I was on, you know, in the international terminal, but I'm on, you know, British soil.
00:17:44.240 And I said, I wonder what things I can post without Keir Starmer coming to arrest me.
00:17:49.200 So I was going and finding all of the choice Bible quotes from the Old Testament and some stuff from the New as well.
00:17:56.680 I said, surely, surely I can't get in trouble for just Bible quotes, right?
00:18:01.440 And then I said, and then I thought, well, you know, if I'm going to post from the Bible, I might as well post from other holy books that are accepted here in the UK.
00:18:09.700 So I started posting from the Koran.
00:18:14.580 And boy, did I get in trouble for that one.
00:18:17.160 I bet you did.
00:18:17.740 I said, what, I'm just posting from the religious texts of the large, there's no problem with that.
00:18:23.800 And just some basic guidelines for how to deal with marriage from the Koran.
00:18:27.960 I don't see what the problem with that is, Keir Starmer, right?
00:18:31.320 Right.
00:18:31.700 Well, he doesn't want too many people knowing what that message is about.
00:18:35.460 But there are preachers, street preachers being arrested, taken away in handcuffs by police officers here in the United Kingdom.
00:18:42.220 It's gone beyond dystopian.
00:18:43.680 And that's really what prompted me.
00:18:45.220 And priests for praying silently.
00:18:49.380 Yeah, in their minds.
00:18:50.800 Yes.
00:18:50.960 So it's becoming a thought crime now, Jack.
00:18:52.820 An actual, literal thought crime.
00:18:54.100 An actual, literal thought crime.
00:18:55.720 So he's praying in his mind, even though he's physically just standing there.
00:18:59.100 Yeah.
00:18:59.600 How do you even prove that in Koran?
00:19:00.760 Well, they asked them, were you praying?
00:19:03.660 Yeah.
00:19:04.020 In your mind?
00:19:04.840 Yes.
00:19:05.380 Well, they admitted it.
00:19:06.060 Okay, well, you've broken the law.
00:19:07.800 How does that break the law?
00:19:09.000 It's crazy.
00:19:10.720 It's completely upside down, the idea that.
00:19:13.260 And what J.D. Vance, I think, said in just our last few minutes.
00:19:16.060 Actually, let me ask you this.
00:19:16.940 What J.D. Vance said, though, I think is so important because Europe was the cradle of these values.
00:19:23.080 They came to the United States from Europe.
00:19:25.200 The founders came from Europe, et cetera.
00:19:26.960 And so to see Europe walk away from them, it is mind-boggling to us.
00:19:32.880 So thank you for doing what you do, standing up your fight.
00:19:36.100 We've got about a minute and a half left.
00:19:37.740 Tell people about what your operation is and how they can get involved.
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00:19:49.280 which I spent a long time creating.
00:19:51.000 We're a period of 15 months reaching out to many American friends, Canadian friends.
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00:20:15.280 In fact, it's had so much success.
00:20:17.020 We've got ambassadors now appointed in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Germany, and many other nations.
00:20:22.780 And President Trump has been posting your tweets as well on Truth Social.
00:20:26.740 President Trump has reposted my tweets on Truth Social.
00:20:30.440 And Elon Musk has reposted some of my tweets just quite recently as well.
00:20:34.520 It's amazing the way the world – the world actually is flat right now,
00:20:38.460 but not in the way the Thomas Friedman thought that it would be.
00:20:41.680 Jim, thanks so much for joining us.
00:20:42.840 It's a pleasure to be here with you, Jim.
00:20:43.920 All right, go follow him, folks.
00:20:45.260 That's Jim Ferguson.
00:20:46.480 UK, you'll see him on X.
00:20:48.100 You'll see Elon's posting him.
00:20:49.800 Trump is posting.
00:20:50.800 Everybody's posting this guy.
00:20:52.180 We'll be right back here.
00:20:53.640 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network.
00:20:57.600 Quick break.
00:20:58.060 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:21:06.080 Where is Jack?
00:21:08.380 Where is he?
00:21:09.660 Jack, I want to see you.
00:21:13.320 Great job, Jack.
00:21:14.720 Thank you.
00:21:15.500 What a job you do.
00:21:16.940 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:21:18.120 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.
00:21:22.200 And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:21:24.100 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're back here.
00:21:28.240 Budapest, Hungary, Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network, Hour 3.
00:21:32.060 Charlie Kirk.
00:21:33.220 I want to cut now.
00:21:34.160 We have an interview with Matt Maurer's founding board member of the EU-U.S. Forum.
00:21:41.240 Really excited to be here in Budapest, Hungary.
00:21:44.840 Many times visited this city and this country to see the incredible accomplishments of Prime Minister Viktor Orban
00:21:52.820 and what he's done from a conservative perspective.
00:21:56.040 And a new organization has been founded to really explain and shore up that relationship between the United States and the EU.
00:22:05.440 That's the EU-U.S. Forum.
00:22:07.740 And we're very excited to be here with Matt Maurers, who is a founding board member of the forum.
00:22:13.020 What's going on, Matt?
00:22:13.820 Hey, Jack.
00:22:14.500 Thanks for being in Budapest with us.
00:22:15.980 Well, this is incredible.
00:22:16.820 And so, you know, you were in Trump's State Department.
00:22:19.360 Tell me a little bit about the forum.
00:22:20.980 What was the impetus for putting it up together and what is the plan?
00:22:25.240 Sure.
00:22:25.520 So we started the forum early part of last year.
00:22:27.800 We did a big kickoff event in Rome.
00:22:29.780 We had Vivek Ramaswamy come out for it.
00:22:31.540 We did it with the ID party here in the EU.
00:22:34.840 And a lot of the reason we started it, you know, the other board members are also Trump alumni from the first administration,
00:22:40.500 whether it's Joe Grogan, who is director of domestic policy council under President Trump,
00:22:44.860 John Stefano, who is counselor at the White House.
00:22:46.580 Because what we needed to do was provide a forum, an outlet for the type of conversation on policies, both good and bad,
00:22:54.540 that were coming out of both sides of the Atlantic.
00:22:56.900 And I think one of the things we saw, because we had worked in the Trump administration,
00:23:00.520 I had served in the State Department, was that a lot of the bad ideas that were coming out of the progressive left,
00:23:05.720 the AOCs of the world in the U.S., emanated out of the European Union.
00:23:09.540 Right.
00:23:09.820 Radical environmentalism.
00:23:10.680 You see a lot of these types of forums on the left.
00:23:13.960 Yeah, exactly right.
00:23:15.240 We probably couldn't name all of them.
00:23:17.060 There's endless amounts.
00:23:17.820 I think we do a poor job as populist conservatives of actually engaging others, populist conservatives in other countries.
00:23:24.860 I mean, look, we all believe in sovereignty.
00:23:26.340 We all believe in national identity.
00:23:27.760 We believe that it's part of the fabric of what makes a strong country.
00:23:30.700 But it doesn't mean we shouldn't be talking and engaging around the world.
00:23:34.140 The Democrats do it because it's part of their – and the left do it because it's part of their identity,
00:23:38.380 the global citizen of the world.
00:23:40.160 For us, it's about how do we make sure that we are advocating for our own national interests
00:23:44.740 and doing so around the world.
00:23:46.400 And so if we're all going to push back on these encroachments on free speech,
00:23:49.600 whether it's the types of things we're seeing out of the U.K. and Germany
00:23:53.560 where they can crack down on speech that they deem as hate speech,
00:23:56.640 even if it's just a difference of opinion,
00:23:58.640 whether we're seeing the weaponization of the judicial system that we see in France going after Marine Le Pen,
00:24:04.020 or what we saw in the United States,
00:24:05.700 whether it's the radical environmental policies that are hamstringing countries
00:24:10.020 around their energy security issues,
00:24:12.000 shutting down family farming because of the radical environmental policies,
00:24:15.580 the unchecked migration that we're seeing,
00:24:17.820 the same issues were emanating on both sides of the Atlantic.
00:24:20.340 And we had to provide an outlet for populist conservatives to know who each other were,
00:24:25.080 understand better policies, and also talk about how we can fight back.
00:24:27.900 I've said that there's sort of an irony to it,
00:24:30.660 that in order to combat the encroachment of transnational globalism,
00:24:35.820 it requires an international alliance of anti-globalists,
00:24:40.140 which is sort of the paradox.
00:24:42.320 Yeah.
00:24:42.620 No, no, you're exactly right.
00:24:43.780 I mean, because it's funny, I remember our first event, too.
00:24:46.920 We had a lot of members of the EU parliament,
00:24:48.880 and they said it took an American to come here and say nationalism is okay.
00:24:53.820 Right?
00:24:54.100 Because they kind of, you know, we tend to get a little insular and sometimes dispirited.
00:24:57.880 I mean, when we kicked this off in March of last year,
00:25:00.140 I mean, you had Joe Biden as president or, you know,
00:25:02.740 an auto pen or whoever the hell was actually the president, right?
00:25:04.540 We're starting to learn that, in fact, it wasn't.
00:25:06.980 It may not have been Joe Biden as president.
00:25:08.460 You had, you know.
00:25:10.260 I don't know if there's a login list on that auto pen, by the way.
00:25:13.380 Yeah.
00:25:13.800 And so you had the, you know, left-wing leadership across the continent in the European Union.
00:25:18.440 And so people were kind of dispirited.
00:25:20.020 I mean, we knew we had our work cut out for us.
00:25:21.820 You know, you look at the reaction since then.
00:25:24.380 Last June, you had record number of support for conservative parties,
00:25:27.300 record number of decrease in support for the most left-wing parties.
00:25:30.900 You had, in France, what should have been a great resounding victory for conservatives,
00:25:36.040 but you had Macron's party ally with the far left to try to prevent Marine Le Pen's party
00:25:41.360 from gaining any ground in their national assembly.
00:25:43.500 You had increase in support for conservatives in Germany.
00:25:46.040 You had increased support for conservatives in Italy.
00:25:49.040 And, of course, we had the election of President Trump.
00:25:51.820 And so we've now been able to see a lot of the ideas we were talking about now get put into action here.
00:25:57.340 The key thing, of course, is making sure, especially in Europe, they actually honor the word of their citizens.
00:26:01.960 I mean, what we're seeing is, you're seeing in Germany right now, they'll label the AFD an extremist group.
00:26:06.560 They won't cooperate to put them into the government.
00:26:09.360 You'll see...
00:26:10.200 Oh, and I think the report leaked, and it was because they said some things about,
00:26:15.520 we want to secure our borders, and we don't want George Soros controlling our country.
00:26:19.340 And these were the extremist...
00:26:21.760 Oh, crazy ideas.
00:26:22.620 ...you know, ideas that would, again, as you say, differences of opinion.
00:26:27.100 Right.
00:26:27.300 And that's the problem, right?
00:26:29.020 So we talked, we had a great event this morning with Jason Miller, a panel discussion here in Budapest.
00:26:34.260 And a lot of it focused around free speech because that's the first thing they go after, right?
00:26:39.400 They start trying to encroach on free speech.
00:26:41.100 Then they start trying to go after political parties.
00:26:43.260 Then they start going after political candidates.
00:26:45.400 And it's incredible how the left says they want to protect democracy,
00:26:48.260 only if democracy votes the way they want them to.
00:26:50.840 Well, this was incredible because, and obviously we just saw the situation in Romania regarding that,
00:26:56.660 but Jason mentioned something at the discussion this morning, the panel discussion,
00:27:03.460 as well as something that I think J.D. Vance sort of touched on when he spoke in Munich,
00:27:08.060 another event I attended a few months ago here in Europe,
00:27:11.880 where there's this idea of these new, so there's the tariffs are on, the tariffs are off between the EU,
00:27:16.480 but there's all these questions about trade deals.
00:27:18.140 Jason mentioned that there is a growing sense that the U.S. is going to want to see real commitments to freedom of speech tied to trade.
00:27:30.100 And this is a radical idea, something that I don't think any president has ever tried before.
00:27:35.700 First Amendment, of course, doesn't exist in European constitutions.
00:27:39.620 You won't find things.
00:27:41.180 I personally was detained at the World Economic Forum for doing this show just a couple of years ago.
00:27:47.700 And just speaking, you know, you know, out.
00:27:51.600 And so and I don't get to turn back to the First Amendment and say, oh, well, you can't do this because it doesn't exist.
00:27:57.780 So are you hearing that sense as well about this tie between the First Amendment and these trade deals?
00:28:04.480 Yeah, no, you're seeing the Trump administration say that if we're going to have a real relationship with Europe and look,
00:28:10.440 the Trump administration values the relationship with Europe.
00:28:12.620 I think the left likes to say, oh, well, he's deteriorating the relationship.
00:28:15.620 No, he believes in the relationship.
00:28:17.840 It should be so strong.
00:28:19.040 It has to be based upon truth and honesty.
00:28:21.420 I think that's what J.D. Vance was talking about in his speech at the Munich Security Conference,
00:28:24.560 which is if we're going to have a real dialogue, a real relationship, we have to be honest with each other.
00:28:28.500 We have to have those tough conversations.
00:28:30.440 If we're going to say we're this beacon for, you know, democracy and the cradle of civilization and all these things,
00:28:36.360 you've got to act that way.
00:28:37.640 And he kept pointing out that all of these values come from Europe originally.
00:28:42.260 Exactly.
00:28:42.600 They were transposing that.
00:28:43.980 It didn't exist as a country.
00:28:45.840 And so I think President Trump and his team with Marco Rubio and others, Scott Besson and Jameson Greer,
00:28:52.140 are saying we have to fundamentally reset the European relationship.
00:28:57.060 And so, yes, it's about trade.
00:28:58.520 You know, it's ridiculous that there's as many Audis being driven in the U.S., but no Ford's being driven in Europe.
00:29:03.260 Right?
00:29:03.580 Like, we should fix that.
00:29:04.640 But then we also have to fix the fundamentals.
00:29:07.600 You know, we're going to truly have this relationship moving forward and not just talk about it in the rearview mirror.
00:29:12.740 We have to actually have an honest discussion about what Europe is doing to its own citizens.
00:29:18.160 You know, and you're seeing this crackdown on political parties.
00:29:21.600 You're seeing the crackdown on free speech.
00:29:23.040 You're seeing censorship.
00:29:24.300 You're seeing what they're doing with the Digital Markets Act,
00:29:26.400 which is essentially hamstringing U.S. companies that are trying to provide the platforms
00:29:30.640 and the technology to provide for open dialogue in Europe.
00:29:34.640 You know, Europe's now trying to smack them around.
00:29:36.740 So we need to have an administration that says we're going to reset the dialogue here.
00:29:40.740 We're going to reset the relationship.
00:29:42.080 It's going to be based upon the actual free speech that we talk about, the actual values we talk about.
00:29:47.940 And if we can get that right, we can get the trade right, too.
00:29:50.240 Well, and it all ties together.
00:29:52.740 I mean, there's an obvious connection between the U.S. and Europe.
00:29:56.940 There's obvious reasons to want to have that healthy relationship vis-a-vis so many things.
00:30:02.340 Obviously, the peace deal, which we're certainly hopeful that goes through.
00:30:06.780 We're not very far away from the Ukrainian border right now as we sit.
00:30:10.700 And that's something that Viktor Orban, I think, is obviously not in direct lockstep with the rest of his EU leaders,
00:30:19.080 to say the least, on when it comes to it.
00:30:21.020 But it's also something that is a very salient issue in this part of the world.
00:30:24.760 And so I think listening to these various voices, and that's also something that the forum has done,
00:30:30.200 to come back to the United States and explain, hey, these are real security issues that they have, that goes back to NATO.
00:30:36.720 Yeah, and I remember when I was in the State Department in 2017, 2018.
00:30:41.700 Donald Trump had just won.
00:30:43.280 It was a sea change in the United States.
00:30:45.440 We had to remind the State Department bureaucrats, the career foreign service officers,
00:30:50.720 that there was going to be a new relationship with Hungary and like-minded leaders around the world
00:30:55.280 who were doing things that were so crazy, they said, like secure their borders.
00:30:59.420 So crazy, like saying, like, we should actually have Hungarians determine Hungarian outcomes.
00:31:03.640 Far right.
00:31:04.460 You know, Soros and the rest of them to dump in millions of dollars every year to dictate the outcomes of elections.
00:31:09.820 You know, these were common sense things.
00:31:11.820 And it's amazing, eight years later, we're the ones who have the movement now.
00:31:16.400 We're the ones who actually have, across the world, the understanding from folks that this isn't some fringe idea.
00:31:22.680 This is just common sense.
00:31:23.940 People want safe streets.
00:31:25.000 They want secure borders.
00:31:26.100 They want good jobs.
00:31:27.400 They want economic freedom.
00:31:29.360 These are the fundamental values we need to be talking about on both sides of the Atlantic.
00:31:32.820 And I think those are the types of issues that we're talking about and bringing a spotlight to at the EU-U.S. Forum.
00:31:37.120 Where can people go to get more info of the EU-U.S. Forum, follow the panel and everything that's going on?
00:31:41.820 They can go to euusforum.com.
00:31:43.700 They can follow us on X.
00:31:45.240 They can follow us on other social media channels.
00:31:47.720 And they can find out all the information.
00:31:49.440 Get involved.
00:31:50.020 I mean, we're going to be doing a lot more events on both sides of the Atlantic.
00:31:53.160 We'll have a couple coming up in D.C.
00:31:54.980 We're going to be back here in Europe at some point soon, too.
00:31:58.100 It's really important for us as populist conservatives to actually continue working on this because it's not going to fix itself.
00:32:04.020 Matt Mowers, thank you so much.
00:32:05.220 Thanks so much, Jack.
00:32:07.260 We're back.
00:32:07.980 Jack Posobiec, Budapest, Hungary.
00:32:10.220 You just saw my conversation with Matt Mowers.
00:32:12.460 We've got another special guest of honor here, though, right now.
00:32:17.000 We've got Kevin Posobiec in the household.
00:32:18.900 What's up, K-Poso?
00:32:20.140 What's going on, Posobiec?
00:32:20.880 What's going on?
00:32:21.540 So we've just got a couple of minutes until the break, but we'll bring Kevin back on.
00:32:24.380 Yeah, so Kevin's been running around today doing some man-on-the-street interviews.
00:32:29.480 He's been meeting some people.
00:32:31.680 You've got actually some interesting stories about a NATO referendum that's being held here in Hungary.
00:32:40.160 Yeah, I have.
00:32:42.040 I'll get more into it after the break here.
00:32:44.180 But, yeah, as we were coming in, there's just billboard after billboard of Zelensky on this billboard.
00:32:52.660 And it's Vox 2025, which means vote 2025 in Hungarian.
00:32:58.200 And Orban and the government put forth this, yeah, this national consensus, if you will.
00:33:06.080 So it's a national referendum.
00:33:07.480 A referendum.
00:33:08.020 Sort of a ballot test.
00:33:09.860 Yes.
00:33:10.020 And it's all about Ukraine and NATO.
00:33:11.880 This is huge stuff.
00:33:12.860 See, folks, this is huge because these are stories that affect us in the United States, and yet we don't hear about them because we're not here.
00:33:19.980 I didn't even know about this until Kevin saw these billboards and said, I'm going to track this down because this seems interesting, folks.
00:33:26.940 We will be right back.
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00:35:03.480 All right.
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00:35:13.600 Kev, so we were talking just before in the last segment.
00:35:17.220 I want to correct something I just said.
00:35:18.540 There's a referendum that's going on in Hungary that's coming up very soon regarding whether or not Ukraine should be allowed into the EU.
00:35:29.420 I actually said NATO.
00:35:30.240 Yes.
00:35:30.620 The EU.
00:35:31.000 Yes, EU.
00:35:31.800 Whether or not they should be allowed in.
00:35:34.140 Walk me through this.
00:35:35.500 What are you learning?
00:35:36.540 You're seeing these billboards up all over town.
00:35:39.100 Victor Orban's got them up.
00:35:40.520 He used to put up billboards with George Soros all over town as well when he was running those various operations.
00:35:46.800 Right now he's got these Zelensky ones up tying him to Ursula von der Leiden and these other globalists.
00:35:53.040 So what are you hearing on the ground here?
00:35:54.800 So these are actual billboards now.
00:35:58.580 They're not as modern and whatnot, but he's definitely taking a page from Trump's book and getting involved with the people, as Trump does on X and whatnot.
00:36:10.300 But this is a referendum for Hungarian citizens to participate in a vote.
00:36:15.540 It's uncertified, I think, but it's still a Vox Papouli kind of vote where you can go online, put in your address, and then vote in favor or against Ukraine joining the EU.
00:36:32.880 So when you were out there—
00:36:34.140 So I saw Zelensky's face on the billboard.
00:36:36.000 You went out there to—and we've got some of these images that you sent in.
00:36:39.920 Well, you went out there to the streets today, and I wish we had some of this video for the show, but we'll post it later on social media, so make sure you're following X.
00:36:48.220 Make sure you're following Human Events daily on Twitter as well and following Kevin, at Kevin Posobiec.
00:36:55.060 What were people on the street telling you?
00:36:57.540 Well, believe it or not, I faced some stone walls from a lot of people.
00:37:02.340 Right, right, of course.
00:37:03.340 I did look—I researched a little bit between yesterday and today, and about a million people have voted already.
00:37:10.260 It started about a month ago exactly, and it'll end at the end of June, so there's still a bit of time.
00:37:16.060 So about a million people voted already, and apparently two-thirds have voted against Ukraine joining.
00:37:23.580 So two-thirds of Hungarians have voted against Ukraine being allowed into the EU.
00:37:28.280 Yes, and there's—so there's some sentiment.
00:37:30.900 I got good footage of this guy who's on a moped, whatever, who's in this park.
00:37:36.500 So I went to the parks earlier.
00:37:38.780 Kevin goes to the park.
00:37:40.300 Well, that's where the locals would be at, as opposed to where we're at.
00:37:43.580 It was more touristy, and, you know, you get people from all around the world.
00:37:46.880 Right, right, right.
00:37:46.900 We're down by the river.
00:37:47.960 So, yeah, so I don't know if it was the suit or the locals don't really like tourists, but I got a couple people to open up,
00:37:56.480 and the best I was to get was that the ones that are in favor are in favor, but when?
00:38:04.020 When is the right time?
00:38:05.420 Because they're aware, and it seems that, you know, hopefully the war ends first.
00:38:13.000 We were hoping for peace negotiations when you were there with Besson.
00:38:17.980 Well, you can't have a country that's at war in—
00:38:21.580 No, no.
00:38:22.320 You know, in—
00:38:23.020 You can't have a country that's still actively at war.
00:38:25.920 Also, because with the conversation with Jim earlier, him and I were talking about there's an idea to create an EU military, to imagine—
00:38:36.560 I mean, I think everybody kind of understands that being accepted into the EU would certainly avow itself of security relationships.
00:38:44.360 Maybe not the NATO guarantee, but a security relationship where European countries then would come and fight for Ukraine rather than the U.S. having that full trigger.
00:38:55.340 Orban knows of the corruption from the Biden regime and whatnot amongst any other crimes in Ukraine.
00:39:04.780 We want to see these—
00:39:06.120 Yeah, he doesn't want Hungarian citizens taxed to get funneled through Brussels to, you know, go away from Hungarians.
00:39:15.640 Yeah, well, people definitely want to see this footage, so where can people go to find the footage?
00:39:20.520 I know you're working on producing it right now.
00:39:22.700 You're going to get out.
00:39:23.440 Where can they go to find it?
00:39:24.260 We're clipping it.
00:39:24.960 We're editing it at Kevin Posobiec.
00:39:27.440 Kevin Posobiec.
00:39:28.680 Got the American flag bandana at X.
00:39:31.560 And Instagram are my most active accounts.
00:39:34.040 X and Instagram.
00:39:35.200 He's always up on the gram, ladies.
00:39:37.100 If you want to follow this guy.
00:39:38.180 So, Kev, what are you getting into?
00:39:39.620 Are you going to find some Hungarian lasses this evening?
00:39:42.860 Is that the plan?
00:39:43.300 That's true.
00:39:43.940 I got some looks.
00:39:45.420 Oh, some looks.
00:39:46.700 I see.
00:39:47.260 You see, folks.
00:39:47.920 I see what's going on.
00:39:48.800 I bring him over.
00:39:50.080 He's like, I'm going to do man on the street interviews.
00:39:52.820 Yeah, he's talking to all the cute Hungarian girls.
00:39:55.300 Oh, you look like you got some opinions.
00:39:57.820 You want to go viral?
00:39:59.180 That's the plan, huh, Kev?
00:40:00.340 You got a couple nods and winks.
00:40:02.060 Oh, a couple nods and winks.
00:40:03.720 Oh, well, I understand.
00:40:04.480 They say Americans are, like, TV ready, but not so much over here.
00:40:10.120 So, I think there are a little, maybe there's a little thirst.
00:40:13.200 Oh, you got to, you got to coax the, she's playing hard to get, Kev.
00:40:16.160 She's playing hard to get.
00:40:16.760 I think there was a little thirst for Americans.
00:40:19.660 Oh, watch out for those green card traps, man.
00:40:22.640 They'll get you every time.
00:40:23.840 I know.
00:40:24.540 Folks, Jack Posobiec, Kevin Posobiec, we are out here.
00:40:28.160 Budapest, Hungary.
00:40:29.060 Thank you so much for watching Human Events Daily yet again.
00:40:33.320 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.