THOUGHTCRIME: Clash of the Cabinet Edition
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Join us as we discuss the recent cabinet picks, our thoughts on them, and our reactions to them so far. We also talk about our plans for the future of the defense industry, and much more!
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okay everybody uh it is thought crime thursday there's a lot of news happening here i got a
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little news charlie we got jack in the same studio i think it's a first time since our events
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um we also have uh blake and who else do we have we have tyler tyler the boyer the the man
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that show the show him on the camera can you hear us charlie tyler's on a uh he's on a three-day
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water fast how's that going tyler by the time we finish today um i'll be over three days what's
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the longest you've gone this is the first time i've ever fasted i've done seven days three times
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um it's crazy never gone longer than that i have a friend whose wife did a full jesus fast once for
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lent 40 days to water wow that sounds terrifying it's so uh yeah no go ahead blake you could uh we
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can it's a it's a pretty heady experience like have you gotten to the part where like your blood
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pressure drops like going downstairs is difficult i think uh my blood pressure is so high over this
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election cycle that uh i now feel normal okay well that maybe that's good that was my experience i
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lived on the second floor of a building and i would try to go walk down the steps and like you
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kind of have to go i don't know what it is but like it's difficult to that was that's what i always
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associate with long fast is that it's weird to go down steps or even like an escalator going down
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and then seven days is when you start feeling like okay this this might be getting a little
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dramatic so sure charlie how are things looking out there things are looking great uh jack how are
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things looking out here we're doing very very well the future is looking very very bright very very
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bright indeed so i want to get everyone's uh reaction to the cabinet picks so far uh jack what
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are your thoughts um i'm still not tired of winning i we are reaching levels of winning that were
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previously not thought possible i mean you take someone obviously the matt gates pick is is huge
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it's taking up all the attention we'll talk about it but tulsi gabbard at dni is is very subversive and
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i love that because she's someone who went through the entire system of the military having served in
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war having served in combat learned that the intelligence community shape which i learned when i was
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there shapes intelligence to fit their political goals and then goes over and says this is wrong
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this is clear they're clearly lying to policymakers when the intelligence gets to dc it all gets twisted
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to be whatever answer they want and then finally she there served the answer and she can sit there now
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as the head of the entire intelligence community and tell them all to pound sand so i i love it
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notwithstanding of course the thermo nuclear warhead of matt gates yeah so i mean what what is your
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thoughts uh blake on the cabinet selections so far we got tulsi gabbard got matt gates take your pick
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man it's uh i feel like the one that really drives it home to me is actually like it's it's pete hegseth
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for secretary of defense in that you'll have these strong reactions where people are saying like oh this is
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this is shocking no like to me what is shocking is the state of the defense establishment in the united
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states you have these phenomenally experienced people you have people who've been around forever
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and their track record is okay they they invaded iraq that was a disaster they screwed they fought for 20
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years in afghanistan and the taliban got stronger pretty much the entire time and then the government that
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we were propping up collapsed instantaneously they're fighting the houthis in yemen and losing to them
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they can't do basic things like this is the stuff that gets very little coverage in public
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but for example we designed a thing called the literal combat ship it's supposed to operate in
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shallow waters and it's basically a giant failure just the worthless like it is a ship for fighting
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in shallow waters and it can't sail in shallow waters and can't fight it truly cataclysmically bad
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and you'll get these reports we can't really build ships anymore all the guys who know how to do it
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are retiring we're not getting new people in it i think china's shipbuilding capacity at this point
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is is like 100 or 200 times greater than ours we ship we sent five or six years of weapons production
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to the ukraine we can't scale it up we need all of our chips from china still all of these things are
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happening in the defense establishment and then they're mad because we picked a guy who they're like
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oh he's a tv host okay yeah he's also a smart guy who is a veteran of the military
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and he has a pretty good resume all across the board and what you basically need is a wrecking
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ball who's not going into the dod so that he can plan for his five million dollar a year job from
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raytheon afterwards it just drives everything about this home to me and can we get him through we'll
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see uh but i think it definitely shows the intent of the trump administration to dramatically shake
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things up and it says a lot that hegseth is possibly only like the third most uh attention
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getting nomination that trump has made so far uh the gates one very strong reactions to that uh
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we'll definitely see what unfolds with that one uh tulsi gabbard i think it's going to be very
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entertaining to see all these like they're going to they're going to make very deranged attacks on some
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of these guys i think with tulsi they're going to accuse her of being a russian asset and i don't
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think there was much evidence for that at any point but they're going to make very very deranged attacks
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and i think that's going to really show what the battle lines are in dc is who still takes people
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seriously when the people who failed over and over and over and over again start making these ad
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hominem attacks on people who are any threat at all to shake up how things are normally done
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tyler your thoughts on uh how we're doing so far it's uh it's looking pretty good man i can't wait
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for all the people who are going to quit because matt gates is going to get
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right in there like i just like the immediate thought i had was like people are literally boxing
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up their stuff right now and it's the it's the most incredible thing considering where we've been
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it's incredible i mean i'm thinking like how many documents are they going to destroy
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it'll be like remember the muller guy i can't believe this wasn't a bigger scandal that the
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deputy on the muller investigation where they all erased their phones by forgetting the password and
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then putting in the wrong password 10 times in a row until the phone erased itself and several of
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them did this it was just the most blatant criminal behavior imaginable and no one ever got charged or
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seriously investigated for this i could see that happening just tons of it with the garland people
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i mean going from garland to gates is like the craziest turnaround in the history of human
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no seriously in all of american history merrick garland to matt gates and it's funny because they
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have the same initials they do it which is which is hilarious to me just the whole thing and like the
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guardians posting like on on their front page right now that you know trump picks far right
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congressman matt gates as attorney general like people they're reckless pick lawmakers express doubts
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doj lawyers slam yeah the the this it's like this whole thing is just so funny it's just like it's the
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greatest ever here's here's something that i've i've been looking at if people remember this though
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merrick garland um i don't think is anyone at this point is certainly not someone that anyone would
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describe as a moderate and yet when i went back and looked that the at the confirmation of merrick
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garland he sailed right through he sailed right through even though there were people like ted cruz
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at the time who raised serious uh serious grievances and serious reservations about actually uh approving
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him as the the confirmed attorney general and i've been going through so i went charlie and i pulled
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up the list of all the senators including all the republicans who voted for merrick garland some
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interesting names appear on this list susan collins oh wait charlie what do you think murkowski
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you think murkowski voted yes let's see let's see oh yeah she did and charlie is 100 right murkowski
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said yes look at that how about oh let's check our new senate majority leader thune oh i did yeah
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100 yes so john thune voted for merrick garland john thune merrick garland so okay john thune from
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from blake's home state you know voting for merrick garland there that's and so so how do you defend
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vote and also wait a minute joni ernst because i saw she had a comment out there let's go see
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joni ernst and voted for merrick garland and so all of these people charlie how do you say that
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you voted for merrick garland but you wouldn't vote for matt gates well it's because uh matt gates is
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going to disrupt the department of justice remember matt gates was a target of the illegitimate fourth
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branch of government the department of justice uh with charges they were never able to prove and
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they were never in fact there was a blackmail scheme against matt gates as you might remember i
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remember the whole thing that was was just terrible and and his dad and his dad and matt gates is now
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going to reform the department of justice and do it in a really profound and uh historic way
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langford langford voted for him well langford voted for garland well well let me put you at ease
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let me put you at ease jack i don't think anyone's gonna have to vote for him
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what do you mean so oh so the recess right so this is why this is why trump was pushing so hard and i
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believe charlie had some tweets up as well about recess appointments and so this is something and um
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thomas massey had one of the first responses after the announcement came out that said look you know it
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doesn't the confirmation doesn't matter because he can recess a point and blake why don't you walk us
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through because i know you know the uh the chapter and verse on this regarding recess appointments what
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is a recess appointment how dost thou work yeah so first of all i know that one of the mechanisms
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they're talking about for how this could happen um this has been reported already in article 2 of the
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constitution one of the president's powers is if there is a disagreement between the houses about
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when to recess then the president can say you guys can recess till this like suitable time
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so in general congress is not in session at all times in the past they used to be out of session
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for pretty long periods now they'll just you know they'll time it they'll take an august recess so
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they can go on vacation they'll take a recess so they can go campaign before an election anyway
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obviously vacancies can still happen in the government so the president has the power to
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during a recess of congress appoint an interim person to any of the many positions that he can appoint
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people to uh not like i don't think you can do it for like the supreme court for example but he can
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do it for cabinet agencies and so what you do is in the past presidents have done this during actual
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recesses they've been trying to fill this spot no one's there so they recess appoint a guy to be
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head of this department or even a deputy in a department what they're considering now is a more
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calculated use of it because i think the time limit on a recess appointment is maybe is it two years a
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year and a half it's a span like that and i don't know if they can all but it goes it goes on the
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session so if they declare another session they then the time would end but if the session stays
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open then yeah it could be as long as two years yeah oh in fact uh yes so specifically yeah i actually
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was missing article two the president shall have the power to fill up all vacancies that may happen
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during the recess of the senate by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their
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next session so yes that's what it is is they can go into recess you appoint someone and then
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they're actually in their spot until the end of the following session so if they then return exactly
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so they can then return and as long as they don't recess again which i think even when congress goes
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into recess they often officially don't recess there's a lot of gimmicks they can do on this front
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uh so what he could do is he could get his guys exercising all or almost all of their powers
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right away you get them shooting out of a cannon and then it makes it they can still have confirmation
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hearings but it would only have the power to say like revoke someone who's already doing their stuff
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and especially with trump who has a very bold agenda and an agenda that needs to start taking action right
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away and it's really damaging if you lose a month two months you're going to want guys who can be
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exercising their powers immediately and so i know one of their ideas is basically you could have
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like if mike johnson asks for a recess and there's disagreement the president can say you're in
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recess for even one day two days he can do something like that and then run through all of
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his appointments it would be novel it would be interesting i feel like once it happened it would
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probably be something everyone would rip off from now on at least if they have a congress that's
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willing to go along with them for it right but there there's there's some conditions though so if
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you're a recess appointment um you can only be in there for two years and 200 days so it's not a it's
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not a um you don't have the position for the entire administration right so um and then there's
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also a constitutionality issue of um because obama tried to do this remember and there was some
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technical side of this but look i i think that the the senate has gotten so high in its own supply
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both republican and democrat senates it should be that you should be able to get your cabinet okay like
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you should be able to fill a government shouldn't take you two and a half years to get your people
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and this is why i mean this is that for democrats that's what they all said about garland that's
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exactly what they said but by the way we're not going to get a government if it's not for recess
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appointments one of the reasons why we were pushing for recess appointments so hard this last
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weekend is without recess appointments we're gonna we're gonna have two years before we get
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to get our entire team assembled tyler your thoughts on this yeah i mean i i totally agree i think
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we i mean i think trump's taking the right approach by saying hey look we're not going to wait around
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forever i was president before you know we i was given the runaround a lot by congress so i'm just
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setting the record straight right now that you you can expect that i'm not going to be cool with just
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getting the runaround and so i like the aggressive nature in which you know the winter white house is
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taking uh these appointments you know there's there's clearly no there's no slowing i mean a lot of people
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would say hey you know you just won the election you can kind of wait you know and give it a few
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weeks and and i can't remember how long it took them to start announcing people last time but it was
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not this quickly so i mean this is great to see that there's just like you're just running right
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straight out the gates and no no pun intended and you're just you're you're taking off here and
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congress you know is kind of flat-footed probably caught a little flat-footed here and i i think that
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it's going to be kind of like balls in their court and nothing was going to make the the american
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people more upset with thune than you know throwing up hurdles for donald trump and i think that that's
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what was so great about his press conference today i mean he came out and said we're going to do what
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the president wants to do like there was a mandate and he's i'm glad those words came out of his mouth
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and they recognize that and so hopefully that starts us off on the right foot with with all
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these appointments whether it's recess or it's voted on but yeah this is where we're going to see the
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real test of you know you know just you know just give us this chance give the modders this chance
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right of of proving their worth well the first test that right out of the gate again is going to be
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can you get these appointments done and if they can't you know the american people are going to be very
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was looking through the uh the records because i remember bush and obama both made a lot of recess
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appointments that's when they kind of reached their apex and then a decade ago there was a supreme
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court ruling that was seen as a conservative victory at the time that did limit recess appointments
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because they developed a sort of gimmick where the senate would go into like a very short recess like a
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temporary recess and they would make all these recess appointments at the time and what the ruling
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was in the case if you want to look it up was uh nlrb versus canning was the name of it and i believe
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the the funny thing is i think the majority was like it was a defeat for obama but i think it was
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written by the liberal justices to some extent but basically what they said is it has to be a
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sufficiently real recess to actually make a recess appointment so it has to be like one between
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congressional terms like over the midterms or it has to be one where they actually sought the
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collaboration of the house of representatives for the recess so that's why you start you kind of are
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seeing this discussion where you have to get the formal recess with the house also recessing to do
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this and it's going to cause all sorts of arguments because this supreme court case uh involves it and
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we might we might end up with this like giant ball of litigation over whether trump can do this
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what a great system we have you just have a supreme court case for every single thing the president does
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it's going to be it's going to be a dogfight no matter what and i guess what i'm happy about is
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that clearly the administration is going in ready to have these fights not under the assumption oh
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this is going to be normal we can run a normal administration and it will all work out we know
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from the first time that that's not how it works yeah and also that you can fulfill a mandate from
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the people look some of these people are not going to get confirmed right jack but donald trump
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is setting the tone some some of these people will get through well he's shocking the system you just
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yeah you're you you can't you're like you do not get a mandate for change just do one or two
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you need to overwhelm the system is that right jack yeah so what you're doing is you're overwhelming
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the system and you know so people are saying oh pete hagseth that was shocking and then tulsa
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gabbard that's shocking and then and then matt gates that's shocking and suddenly it's like
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wait a minute you're moving too fast and so it's it's basically a system of where
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your your actions your decision cycle is actually taking place faster than anything charlie is there
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anyone in washington dc who can move this fast anyone no no one can move this fast in washington
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dc the system is not built for that this is the system this this reminds me of like turning point
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by the way turning point moves fast as everybody knows elon musk moves fast as everybody knows
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you've got to be willing to hit the ground running and that's what president trump is clearly
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doing here by the way securing um essentially a statement from thune to say that recess appointments
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would be on the table to make sure that president trump's agenda gets passed so he secures that from
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thune that's why president trump doesn't make an endorsement in the senate majority leader race
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because he got that out as a public statement from thune that he would support the agenda then as
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president trump i believe just as he was wheels up from dc that's when he pushes boom on the truth
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social posts so he it's like he flew out of dc and just dropped a bomb right from trump force one of
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great you guys all agree with me so my appointments are going to be matt gates tulsi gabbard and pete
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hegseth how do you like me now no it's it's it's incredible strategy that we're seeing the timing of this
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you know i i hope that there are some real historians that actually look back on this time
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and and understand the strategy of what's going on right now because what you're seeing
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is actually far more they they want to say it's haphazard they want to say it's not planned out
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they want to say that he's oh he's he's shooting from the hip he's making it up for me as it's all
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going along but charlie you've been there is is this haphazard or no it's not it's actually i think
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very strategic yes if you're going to shock the system you got to shock the system and you understand
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and look so some some of the people get tripped up in confirmation fights okay but look at the
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first administration we had we had people that we nominated that we had to pull i'm trying to think
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it was like an epa administrator or something there's a whole bunch of them there's a whole
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bunch of them it's just part of the process so you got to go big you got to go bold you got to go quick
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and by the way you lose someone you get somebody up it's just a volley of people and eventually
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you're going to get some through and that's how you effectuate change it's not going to be like you go
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all in on one person like oh we're going to change our change agent and that's what we did last time
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last time i really like yeah huge problem like last time we said okay our change agent is going to be a singular
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agency right okay great no it's across the board okay every agency is going to be flooded we occupy
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the entire federal government and we know that the senate is going to say no to some people however
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whoa charlie kirk supports the occupy movement oh i support it uh and we occupy dc occupy dc i will say
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this though that that senate republicans are going to have a hard time saying no to everything and
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that's the issue and that's the strategy okay they'll say no once they'll say no twice and three
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all of a sudden you say no to the sixth time right and the constituents are going to be like
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excuse me you you are are you on board with president trump's agenda or not you said you were
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you said to his face you were you said to all of us that you were and people and you got some of that
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a lot of these senators cornyn's in cycle a lot of people are getting in cycle now and they are not
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going to forget those states are not going to forget that donald j trump won them by what 64 in some
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cases uh 55 in some cases huge huge mandates all over the place and if president trump is going to
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put them on blast now suddenly that's a huge issue the plus you know i don't know how confirmed this
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is but there's a rumor floating around charlie i don't know if you've seen this rumor kind of on
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twitter kind of in the media that elon musk has subtly been suggesting funding primaries to against
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people who do not support the agenda no i can't confirm that but certainly gotten involved in the
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back overwhelm the system let's play cut 393 here the thing that hasn't come up yet that concerns me
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in terms of his policies is that he's if he's not a christian nationalist he's one of their best
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warriors i mean he sees the military at this point as a flaming sword for christ one of the other things
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that he sort of pushes on outside of misogyny and dei is is anti-muslim bigotry
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what how much did he fit into that one statement right that's it he just ran the whole gamut there
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that was like they're not taking this last one by the way i can't tell you again it's not about the
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individual someone's at text charlie what do you think about gates i love gates by the well i think
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it's amazing what do you think i said no no no look at does it not the forest from the trees
00:23:57.140
right you you are seeing an occupy movement you are seeing an overwhelm the system blake do you
00:24:01.640
understand the argument i'm making here and can you contextualize it it's more about the vibe it's
00:24:06.020
more about like hey we got a mandate some of these are not going to work some of these guys are going
00:24:10.600
to get you know put up in a committee but we're not good we're going to just throw the entire kitchen
00:24:15.160
sink at this thing blake yeah exactly it's you know a thing you often heard about trump's campaign
00:24:22.540
way back when he first started 2015 people would talk about the ab testing aspect of the trump
00:24:28.280
campaign which is a term from tech tech it's where ab testing is very quickly do we know what's going
00:24:33.580
to work oh no we actually have no idea what's going to work so do several different things and literally
00:24:38.660
see what actually does better than others and i think you see this with the the musk involvement
00:24:46.660
this very much defines everything elon musk does is there's a value all its own in being really
00:24:52.560
aggressive and just trying things out knowing in advance that not everything will get through and
00:24:59.360
if something doesn't get through you just you know you wipe your hands off and you try again so one of
00:25:04.680
these guys gets shot down okay bam you already have your backup ready to go you put them forward you
00:25:09.320
don't act surprised about it and when you go in with that attitude when you're so maximally aggressive
00:25:15.540
dc is it's full of easy people that's right slow people it's full of people who love going on vacation
00:25:21.640
if you can just overwhelm these people with your energy if you overwhelm your will we have an idea
00:25:28.560
we are going to get this done they're going to what are they going to do about it they can only
00:25:33.080
keep people angry about so many things at once and this is how you run boom this is how you run a
00:25:39.080
military operation by the way this is this is normandy right so normandy wasn't just one day normandy was
00:25:44.420
you you had days prior to normandy when there was action taking shock the system obviously people know
00:25:51.040
every first invasion is followed by what the air assault so air assault hits command and control
00:25:56.040
take out their communications take out their ability to think take out their ability to talk
00:25:59.720
then the waves start hitting the beach the waves start hitting the beach you know there's artillery
00:26:03.680
going to be uh going to be shooting at the planes you know there's going to be the pill boxes that
00:26:07.300
are coming but you just keep sending people you just keep sending people up and guess what what
00:26:12.820
does maga have charlie we've got people well that's right and but think about it though i mean
00:26:16.700
what are what is that what is the nightly news going to folk by the way wait till they get to
00:26:20.180
the other agency heads what are they what are they going to cover are they going to cover pete
00:26:27.060
hegseth at dod are they going to cover whatever bobby kennedy has to getting are they going to cover
00:26:30.780
tulsi gabbard at dni uh are they going to cover they probably won't cover marco rubia at state i love
00:26:35.680
marco to death but you know that's probably yeah marco he's kind of a known quantity they're not
00:26:38.880
are they going to cover matt gates at the department of justice are they going to cover the fbi whoever
00:26:43.940
end up getting that i mean there's only so much wait wait you know it'd be so funny too is is what
00:26:48.580
if what if they like what if they they they block someone for something and trump says okay and then
00:26:54.160
he nominates that person for something else so but let me also say this though which i think is very
00:26:58.280
important this is what's so smart what trump's doing the left is the weakest the most on defense
00:27:03.400
and the most disorganized and demoralized too and demoralized yeah he is going for the final
00:27:08.080
knockout punch what they were hoping is for just a bunch of moderates and business as usual and in some
00:27:13.520
ways this might invigorate the left a little bit but invigorate them in what direction but i mean
00:27:18.140
for example if they're going to be like oh do you guys go protest like kavanaugh for pete hegseth or
00:27:23.380
for matt gates right or do you go protest like kavanaugh for tulsi gabbard which one is it right
00:27:27.960
or is it lee zeldon lee zeldon's gonna have like he's gonna dance through the ep oh yeah fine but the
00:27:32.100
point is is that there are limitations to the energy of dc because these people haven't done anything
00:27:37.440
for a long time and uh tyler can you can you add some context to this please yeah i mean i i totally
00:27:45.540
the exciting part of what we've seen in alternative media is we know what their limitations are and one
00:27:53.140
of the greatest reports that happened this week was talking about how uh mbc msnbc and cnn viewership is
00:28:00.700
down like 30 percent or like 40 it's like disastrous they're firing everybody allegedly they're firing
00:28:06.740
anderson cooper they're firing literally uh uh scott presler who works over there no i'm kidding
00:28:11.680
it's not scott presler that works over there it's caitlin collins but they're firing everybody because
00:28:17.000
they can't give up dylan mulvaney not dylan mulvaney yeah that's over there so it the the funny part about
00:28:24.200
this is is that not only are they going to be completely overwhelmed by by trump and i actually
00:28:28.640
think that this is part of the reason why the media hates him so much it actually causes them to have
00:28:32.760
to work harder they have to work more in unfriendly territory than they ever had to work before in the
00:28:39.680
last trump administration they now have to work basically overtime to keep up with everything
00:28:44.400
happening that trump does and now their viewership and their readership is down so significantly much
00:28:51.300
they can't keep up this this is the the epitome of the death knell uh for the mainstream media this is
00:29:01.280
it and they know it they sense it coming they can't keep up no one believes them anymore the harder they
00:29:07.140
press against it because they have to because they're told to uh the fewer people actually follow what
00:29:11.680
they're doing and and it's just an overwhelming barrage uh and and i applaud uh suzy everybody that's
00:29:20.340
running the transition right now uh charlie you know this closer than anybody else what they're
00:29:26.340
doing is the exact right thing to do the exact i'm right there in front row seat and i mean look the
00:29:31.560
whole mantra is this which is we did not win a mandate election to just go play patty cake patty
00:29:36.380
cake what baker's hand or whatever the heck they call it there's man right with uh with with the
00:29:41.200
central intelligence agency you can tell charlie has toddlers i know i'm learning i'm relearning
00:29:45.340
makers man no i'm relearning i'll give me two years i'll know every single song do you know
00:29:49.600
the muffin man no not yet um and so but this was a mandate election and blake i know that you know
00:29:56.320
the counter argument is oh this is going to be clumsy and all this but yes however it's i would
00:30:02.540
rather err on the side of max aggression blake than what we did in 2016 would you understand do you
00:30:09.420
agree with that exactly and i think one thing they should keep in mind actually because they have
00:30:13.600
they have a couple months to think about this is what stuff with your bold picks that they can do
00:30:20.540
early on that is hard to attack but it's like aggressive and would be received well so i can
00:30:27.480
imagine you come in let's either he gets approved or you get the recess appointment through so you have
00:30:33.440
sec def hegseth what can he do day one i bet he could say day one yeah all like here's our order
00:30:40.240
where all of the you know trans stuff that's not a military priority anymore have that written and
00:30:46.220
have it be serious don't have it be a meme thing think about what the real policy should be or dni you
00:30:52.820
have tulsi goes in and it could be here's some old cia we're releasing old cia stuff because we
00:30:59.640
promised greater transparency or we're rolling back this you know domestic spying operation do that
00:31:06.460
right away stuff like that where it's very difficult for anyone to attack it without sounding
00:31:12.700
like a psycho is going to be good and that's how you i think can get the big change agenda to have a
00:31:18.960
positive reception and you don't have to make it that long i feel if you can make a good impression
00:31:24.680
early and also show you're not screwing things up dramatically their ability to remain volcanically
00:31:30.720
angry about it is going to decline or at least it's going to stop working with the public
00:31:35.360
they can you know if the press tells them that oh you know matt gates is a deranged pick for attorney
00:31:41.420
general they can push that for a while but if matt gates is attorney general for a few months and the
00:31:47.380
world hasn't fallen and the stuff he's done so far actually seems like it was a good idea
00:31:51.560
what are they going to do they can't keep staying outraged about it and if they try they'll just look
00:31:56.640
ridiculous yep so yeah i just i think i guess bill i want to get to one of our partners here really
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unstoppable uh so just it's really funny uh it's you know i i've lost like 10 pounds since the election
00:32:57.000
ended and you know you know why why because i'm not as stressed yeah were you stressed eating
00:33:02.100
were you not stressed eating no even not stress eating you get you keep weight on when you're
00:33:05.740
stressed even if you have the same diet because your body thinks that you're in a time of panic
00:33:09.740
so yeah so it's where you're like hold it's like holding on exactly all of a sudden i'm like i'm
00:33:14.200
sleeping well i don't have like this pit in my stomach tyler are you feeling the uh you pit in your
00:33:19.540
stomach charlie i used to read were you jonesing it a little bit i thought we were gonna lose at
00:33:23.680
some point i i am aware no we knew we were gonna just well we did just well we did just fine we
00:33:31.400
we knew we were gonna uplift this thing but yeah i produce producer faz says he says he says i'm
00:33:36.040
having dreams again yeah that's uh oh you guys look i remember i sat down election night and i was
00:33:44.160
like we should talk about election a little bit just how it you know it's been what a week and a half
00:33:48.300
i guess since then i remember i you know everyone's like oh we don't know we don't know what i said and
00:33:52.620
and oh no because last week we were saying last maga rally remember we were saying last maga rally
00:33:56.540
was it was it one week ago that we were saying it was the last maga rally and i remember i sat down
00:34:01.400
and said yeah this is the last one until until the victory tour and january 20th 2025 when donald
00:34:08.320
j trump takes his oath of office and everyone's like oh i don't know about that jack i was like no
00:34:13.420
no he got this 100 100 i just i'm reading twitter i can't this gates thing is just so smart it's
00:34:21.680
like i'm mad about pete head exact never mind i'm mad about it's like yeah tulsi grabber's
00:34:26.100
it makes the left looks complete by the way this is it's so smart because they lost an election
00:34:30.360
and like they don't have trust oh by the way can we play this tape here of uh the attorney general
00:34:35.200
giving me a ride oh my was it today it was recently it was recently it was last day or two
00:34:40.420
i'll pull it off you got you got to put it in the chat um it's gone totally viral by the way
00:34:44.320
um hilarious yeah so uh the uh yeah it's it's it's reporters are texting me being like what's he
00:34:51.780
saying in the car he told me to put on my seat but here's the here's the thing though right is
00:34:55.180
at some point though it's like isn't this what the american people voted for they're like we want
00:35:02.500
change we want to see the people on tv on those channels freaking out and crying and hysterical
00:35:10.440
and it's like you're literally playing into their hands every single time you do this and it just
00:35:16.660
reinforces that trump should actually do more of it yes because the more he does it the more they react
00:35:22.440
and the more popular it gets and in fact the more runway it gives him to go like what's further than
00:35:29.040
matt gates's ag you know like you know who can we have a point to head the space force who can we
00:35:34.260
appoint to head you know nuclear agencies who can we appoint to head all sorts of things that are still
00:35:39.760
out there on the table folks and and just which names are going to drive them more insane you're
00:35:45.220
you're actually creating a um an incentive structure here that's actually quite favorable to people who
00:35:50.880
i don't know care about the country and patriotism and all of these things so it's it's really it's
00:35:55.580
it's genius because the more up he's put them in a situation where the more upset they get
00:35:59.920
the better his cabinet gets yeah that's and it's just blake can you comment on this the left is not
00:36:05.900
in fight mode right now right that's why this is so smart it is it is it's and like the only
00:36:12.360
downside is they will have i guess a couple months just because that's when the inauguration is to
00:36:17.580
maybe collect their bearings but right now they are really they're in a bit of shock i think they
00:36:23.100
probably expected the trump transition to be similar to the last one where it took longer to announce some
00:36:29.140
key picks there was more disorganization around it it was a slower process whereas this one
00:36:35.200
chief of staffs decided pretty quick key cabinet jobs decided decided pretty quick it's going fast
00:36:41.060
fast fast fast and that means more time to for people to get over it they can't keep the hate as
00:36:48.060
high for two months and more time for the trump world to figure out their strategy of okay we've decided
00:36:53.680
who we want in what are we going to do with them i think uh obviously you're there charlie you see it
00:36:58.980
up firsthand and you're playing your role in it but i think we've already seen that this transition is
00:37:04.380
better than the first one was and i think that's a good harbinger for hopefully how the entire second
00:37:09.580
trump term will be and as you say democrats they're not in fight mode they're they are in one fight mode
00:37:15.820
they're fighting each other we're getting all of the recriminations about the election which uh if we want
00:37:21.280
to take a sec to talk about that we can it's all very funny stuff uh they're they're arguing over who
00:37:26.680
you know did did biden sabotage harris did harris sabotage harris did pelosi sabotage harris they all
00:37:34.160
agree there was some sabotage but you know who's to blame for it yep okay so let's uh we haven't done
00:37:41.020
a really good election diagnosis tyler uh a lot of our audience is probably wondering what the heck
00:37:45.520
happened with cary lake arizona on this program because we had to kind of had that going last week
00:37:49.960
tyler can you take the time we have remaining here i mean we have a little bit of time we got
00:37:53.500
15 or 20 minutes just to kind of give us what happened because and the the the final drops were
00:38:00.160
actually far bluer like way bluer than any of our modeling would have suggested so so please tell us
00:38:06.300
yeah i mean yeah charlie i mean you kind of you know throughout the the line here that's that's most
00:38:12.820
critical uh the the way that elections now that democrats run are operated they basically go
00:38:21.880
through step by step slow roll i mean this is the california model this is why california is still
00:38:27.120
counting ballots we still don't have answers on some of these races or we're just barely getting them
00:38:32.020
now and this is the same in arizona they go through with each vote block at a time finally ending
00:38:39.200
with the the the the late early ballot drop-offs that happen on election day uh basically what was
00:38:47.540
what we've seen over the course of the last number of days because a ton of people have been asking
00:38:51.000
is what's going on in arizona you know what happened with with cary lake uh yeah the the remaining votes
00:38:59.280
that got counted in the last wee hours of this election uh were heavily lean democrat like unexpectedly so
00:39:07.860
yeah i mean like remarkably so remarkably so like two to one democrat which we've never seen before
00:39:15.900
on election day drops uh there's a lot of speculation as to why that is uh you know we definitely know
00:39:23.060
that the democrats spiked uh at the last hour uh try to get out the vote operations trying to catch up
00:39:30.600
because they knew they were so far behind that definitely played a role into it in arizona
00:39:35.060
uh they they they told everyone they knocked something like 700 000 doors in the last week
00:39:40.300
um i don't think they actually did that but i do think that they did spike uh money into the state
00:39:46.440
and they were really worried uh the left had spent millions and millions of dollars on uh senate and
00:39:51.760
house races thinking that they were going to take over the arizona state senate and the state house
00:39:56.080
they failed uh yeah in in really miraculous form at doing that uh and so i think they got really
00:40:03.800
nervous and really worried about that uh but there's also some some speculation that there
00:40:08.960
was a lot of really questionable drop-offs that happened in the last couple days and so you know
00:40:15.840
as we know in arizona it's illegal to ballot harvest it's illegal in most states to ballot harvest
00:40:20.920
california it's not but arizona it is and there was a lot of drop-offs in fact in maricopa
00:40:28.320
county there was 229 000 drop-offs so there's a little bit of a surge in drop-offs and a in a drop-off
00:40:34.360
in election day voting so based off modeling and the votes that remained out there a lot of people
00:40:40.260
speculated and and we you know based off the data analysis that we were pulling in our own office was
00:40:45.740
that we were going to see an uptick in republicans who dropped off ballots uh this this did not pan out
00:40:53.340
we will be looking at every single person who dropped off an early ballot on election day to
00:40:59.580
give a full a full deeper analysis of what really happened uh in that 229 000 but the trajectory that
00:41:07.300
that carry was on what with you know it being the reverse situation which was high republican turnout on
00:41:14.480
election day was actually at one point really good uh looking really good but again what we saw was a
00:41:22.420
huge surge in democrat turnout an unexpected surge in democrat turnout on uh the days preceding
00:41:30.340
election day and on election day with drop-offs
00:41:32.320
so we're seeing something similar in pennsylvania by the way where um bob casey has enlisted the aid
00:41:44.140
of mark alias everyone's favorite steel dossier russiagate lawyer and his lawyers are now clogging up the
00:41:52.340
courtrooms in every single collar county of philadelphia in philadelphia county itself
00:41:58.180
because they are just running around everywhere demanding just like you're saying tyler they're
00:42:02.300
going for you know oh you know but but sort of in the opposite direction right so they're saying oh
00:42:08.120
you need to count every single possible vote that could be for casey oh this one is crumpled and the
00:42:14.020
sea is has like a bend in it that means that person was trying to vote for casey and didn't work in
00:42:19.360
it's it's nonsense and yet we have a situation where dave mccormick has begun senate orientation
00:42:27.040
and yet he hasn't actually gone up against an opponent who will drop out of the race and josh
00:42:33.360
shapiro is sitting there sort of presiding all over it by the way i think latest i heard in pennsylvania
00:42:38.720
is that it's actually going to a recount even as dave mccormick has already um has already been
00:42:45.340
involved in the house or the senate orientation i believe he actually voted in the leadership uh in
00:42:52.780
the leadership race because the incoming we don't know how he voted but we don't know how he voted
00:42:55.980
but leadership does get a the incoming incoming member does actually get a vote
00:43:02.780
yeah so tyler i want to ask you uh really quick in the time again this is another thing people are
00:43:07.020
asking i want to just say very factual non-speculative uh blake's eye roll will be enough to
00:43:11.340
to cause a solar eclipse um which is eric eric hovde okay yep there can we get the clip of hovde
00:43:19.900
on twitter it's very compelling it's very very compelling this guy's legit he's not he's not an
00:43:26.620
unproven guy and we we have to pursue the truth wherever it leads us right jack we do let's play cut
00:43:32.460
397 this this stinks like a skunk play cut 397 like many of my supporters i was shocked by what unfolded on
00:43:40.940
election night at 1am i was receiving calls of congratulations and based on the models
00:43:47.740
it appeared i would win the senate race then at 4am milwaukee reported approximately 108 000 absentee
00:43:56.220
ballots with senator baldwin receiving nearly 90 of those ballots statistically this outcome seems improbable
00:44:05.500
okay tyler what's going on here yeah i mean so we have the same issue going on in pima county
00:44:14.700
there's been some data analysis that's happened in arizona as well that seems that the democrat
00:44:19.660
opponent to cary lake in the similar fashion that eric hovde is mentioning received close to 90 of the
00:44:26.700
ballots and again this is where people kind of lost their minds last time was you had middle of the night
00:44:33.340
very late in the game all of a sudden statistical anomalies with returns come in and so you know i i
00:44:40.940
think this is this is where people have real issues with the election because the elections are not
00:44:46.540
transparent they're not reporting these things on an hourly basis they're waiting days in some cases to
00:44:51.900
report results uh you know there's some really simple solutions here which is that you know things need to
00:44:59.500
be significantly more transparent that allow disallow for you know uh speculation uh i think that the
00:45:08.220
candidates have a right to know hour by hour in my opinion that they what the results look like in
00:45:15.340
arizona we have a law that that forces the recorders to count through the night they have to keep counting
00:45:22.220
in order and so there's nothing that prevents them from just reporting
00:45:26.540
in a much more frequent basis and like i said hourly it makes the most sense to me so that you
00:45:31.980
don't see big drops happen at one time so you can see these things happen i think part of the reason
00:45:37.340
why people have such concerns is that you know you don't get you don't hear or see anything for
00:45:43.180
hours or days and then they'll have things happen like here in arizona they found
00:45:48.700
uh thousands of ballots in a safe like way after the deadline in yuma uh you know they had an issue
00:45:57.260
where they said they couldn't process you know tens of thousands of ballots correctly in milwaukee
00:46:03.180
so we're tracking all these different things the most critical part here is like who are these people
00:46:08.700
who are these late the late people and guess what a simple foia allows us to get the information for
00:46:17.660
the voters identify who these people are and start you know walking this backwards and saying you know
00:46:24.140
how did this how does a anomaly like 90 democrats show up in a ballot drop because even in the places
00:46:33.580
like milwaukee which is heavily democrat you don't have 90 democrat turnout this isn't you know dc uh
00:46:41.820
you know with that compared compared to 10 republican and how do you you know start to analyze that data
00:46:48.860
you know i feel really really bad for the hovdi campaigns for the late campaigns for many that have
00:46:54.940
gone through this because these close races like this are absolutely uh it is it is heartbreaking to
00:47:03.740
watch these people lose sleep over the course of a week when these election administrators slow walk
00:47:09.820
everything and they don't give answers they're non-responsive they don't respond to lawyers even
00:47:15.980
uh you know in a fast fashion and what it does is it just makes the public trust the process less
00:47:24.860
and this is part of the reason why people are so committed to the idea of one day one ballot one
00:47:30.140
vote uh you know kind of old school or at least moving to a system that's more like florida where
00:47:36.700
it's limited uh you excuse only mail-in ballots and they have to be in by a certain time for them to count
00:47:43.500
and so that that we can know by the end of the day on election day what the heck is going on here
00:47:47.820
because if if that was the case in arizona and in mil in wisconsin you would have a lot more trust in
00:47:55.340
the system they are they're asking for people to trust the system less because in the middle of the
00:48:00.380
night when one candidate's up all of a sudden you have a drop like this happen and whether it's an
00:48:05.660
anomaly or not right whether it's a it's legit or not people are going to question the system moving
00:48:12.860
forward all the time okay blake uh what do you find wrong with that all right well so thankfully
00:48:20.860
we already have the graphic for uh for my my eyes causing the solar eclipse if they want to put that
00:48:25.580
up but uh uh so so i understand people being really it's burning my red nose yeah and as i've said it's
00:48:33.900
100 bad regardless of whether the votes are legit to have a 90 thing drop at 3 a.m because it
00:48:42.780
fries people's brains they get really upset about it yeah what i will say about it is
00:48:48.700
like i've looked at the county results for milwaukee and like are they wildly out of range from
00:48:57.660
what the rest of the state is doing i don't think so uh milwaukee was more republican this election
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than it was in 2020 no but it's the batches that came in late that well okay but that were 90 10
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90 10 it's not about the county itself is 70 30 and if your early vote is going to be more democratic
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if it's like mail-in voting in wisconsin's case uh it doesn't sound insane to me that would that
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would be the case if especially if they had like a good mail-in harvesting operation in wisconsin um
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i think if they did anything shady it would have to be something that they did identically last time
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and maybe it was but you know as you say we can check the names of these people we can if there's
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someone who's dead we should be able to detect this if it happened at scale we should uh and
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another thing i would point out is like they're getting fewer democrat votes than they did in
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2012 in 2008 when they had no need to steal anything at all because obama was kicking butt like you can
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look at it uh they have i think about the same population now as they did in 2012 it's not a
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growing place but it's not really shrinking in 2012 it was uh like 67 obama 31 romney and but they got
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332 000 votes for for romney for uh obama 154 000 for romney 2024 it's almost the exact same number
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it's about 68 again but it's only 310 000 votes for uh harris and then you're having slightly you
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have uh i think slightly more votes which you can probably attribute to people who vote trump but then
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for uh baldwin which those people exist uh yeah that that's the big thing that that really chaps
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people and i'll just use the arizona example in arizona the one weird very strange difference
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between the presidential and the senate race and and this this happens from time to time but
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the senate race garnered like four times as many almost five times as many green party votes
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than the u.s presidential race and people ask the question well that's really strange too that's like
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very very very strange because you know typically if you're a green party member that's like or a
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person that wants to vote green party and you're like really excited to vote green party for the u.s
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senate race you're probably going to be excited about that for president and so you know again those it
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happens when there's a disparity the strange part about arizona and i'll give this case
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there was half as many green party votes for president than this time than there were in 2016
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and you could equate a lot of similarities between this election 2016 where with a really unlikable
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you know democrat candidate and you know jill stein coming out being super vocal
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but there were significantly more votes but they were still less than the year that mccain ran in 2016.
00:51:57.420
well mccain funded a lot people don't realize this in the background funded a lot of green party
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activity for sure carrie's campaign was not doing that these were all organic and natural but it is
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really strange that you have that that that situation happen while at the same time you start seeing
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again voter drops that are heavily democrat yeah where that just historically hasn't been the case or even in
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areas where that hasn't been the case and that's we saw a ton of that in the in the the final counts
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the last days and for for sure with the very very final uh day of election drops so we have any more
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the trump campaign is doing but i'm excited about it i think it shows a strong intent to deliver on
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what they care about i think it shows that the right people are getting input on this administration
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and doesn't mean every we have to say in advance it doesn't mean everything is going to work some
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things are going to fail some nominees will probably get rejected but going in knowing that will be the case
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being ready for that outcome being ready to move on after it happens that shows the right attitude
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it's taking the mentality of the trump 2024 presidential campaign and bringing it into the
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trump 2025 through 2028 presidency so i am excited to see how it plays out i'm excited for the political
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battles that are to come and i'm excited that we'll be right in the middle of it final thoughts jack
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we need to keep going i don't think we've been aggressive enough yet i need we need to double
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down on our aggression we need to double down on our belligerentness we need to absolutely take over
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everything i i've even got a bit in to take over msnbc by the way uh we're talking to some investors we'll
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see how that goes and i i just don't know i mean the price you know it's just they're quoting us it's so
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high but look no it's it's you need complete and total domination not just of the political space but of
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have dominated in new spaces and new media we're going to continue to do that throughout the entire
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government in all areas of american life until the american people have their country given back to
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them by the way i'll also throw out just it's so funny right because donald trump and i tweeted this
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government keeps trying to screw over trump's cabinet picks they will not be focused on
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