Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec

00:00:00.160 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's edition of Thought Crime.

00:00:04.520 Today, me, Charlie, and the gang talk about Fannie's Fulton Funhouse.

00:00:09.820 Is there a DOJ conspiracy going on?

00:00:12.660 The Maui mayhem.

00:00:14.540 We debate whether or not prohibition was a great idea,

00:00:17.760 and a new polling firm called Ron Polling has appeared.

00:00:21.980 What is going on with that?

00:00:23.480 We also have a discussion of Pizza Hut nationalism.

00:00:27.000 Get ready to commit thought crime.

00:00:32.200 From the age of Big Brother.

00:00:34.800 If they want to get you, they'll get you.

00:00:37.280 DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.

00:00:41.260 They're collecting your communications.

00:00:50.380 Okay, it's Thursday, and we are not yet in federal prison.

00:00:53.960 Welcome, everybody.

00:00:54.960 You'll get us eventually.

00:00:55.980 We have Blake Neff here, Saurabh Sharma, did I say that right?

00:01:00.380 You did.

00:01:01.240 Who is our guest today, and then Jack Posobiec, still learning who he is.

00:01:05.500 Jack, how you doing?

00:01:06.800 I'm really excited that Vivek Jr. was able to join the show today.

00:01:10.800 No, no, no.

00:01:11.320 I'm Sagar and Jetty, a different person.

00:01:13.180 Oh, is that right?

00:01:14.520 I think you're mildly more...

00:01:16.580 No, no, I'm the editor of National Review, actually.

00:01:18.460 Ramesh Panurua.

00:01:19.080 Oh, okay.

00:01:19.540 Are you real?

00:01:20.180 You guys are all the same person.

00:01:21.660 Have you ever been in the room together?

00:01:22.960 Are you guys getting sick of all these Indians in American politics now?

00:01:26.100 It's just about time.

00:01:26.920 It's only going to get worse.

00:01:27.800 You've already taken all the tech jobs.

00:01:29.080 They're here to do the needful for American politics.

00:01:33.000 That's right.

00:01:33.580 This whole green card.

00:01:34.340 Jobs that Americans simply won't do being a nativist.

00:01:37.020 Are you 100% Indian?

00:01:38.240 Is that right?

00:01:38.800 Absolutely.

00:01:39.160 Well, welcome.

00:01:42.500 All right.

00:01:43.040 So what is our first...

00:01:44.520 By the way, who is this guy next to me?

00:01:46.860 It had to go, Charlie, after last week's deep web reveal kind of blew up in my face.

00:01:52.500 Yeah, so Blake does this deep web reveal about some sort of bearded cringe guy.

00:01:58.600 And I was like, Blake, that's a picture of you.

00:02:00.500 Let's get a picture.

00:02:00.900 We got to bring it back.

00:02:01.700 No, no.

00:02:02.320 We're moving on to the first topic right away.

00:02:04.960 And it was one of the great backfires.

00:02:07.360 I'm so glad I did it.

00:02:08.620 By the way, most deep web reveals are a chance to mercilessly mock me, right?

00:02:12.600 That's kind of the whole idea is because I don't really do the internet thing.

00:02:15.560 There was Blake Old.

00:02:17.400 Blake 2.0.

00:02:18.540 How much better does he look, everybody, right?

00:02:20.660 Just so you know, that's not a meme.

00:02:22.060 That's just a picture of Blake from last week.

00:02:24.240 No, that's what I thought.

00:02:25.260 I thought it was like some sort of AI-generated, you know, dear chat GPT, please construct me

00:02:31.100 looking as if I haven't slept in a couple days.

00:02:34.800 Wait, Charlie, a couple?

00:02:36.220 No, Charlie, what would you – we got to rate Blake's looks now, so what do we think?

00:02:41.640 Beard, no beard.

00:02:42.560 Well, in the non-gayest way possible, I think Blake looks great.

00:02:47.020 Okay, what about in the gayest way possible?

00:02:48.460 I was going to say the same thing.

00:02:50.740 The only thing I would say is, Blake, you should have gone – you should have picked the whole head, man.

00:02:55.480 Bicked the entire day.

00:02:56.220 I should have, I should have, I had to get here on time.

00:02:59.260 I was running out of time.

00:02:59.820 I am team no beard.

00:03:00.800 By the way, we are taking active applications.

00:03:02.920 If you want to become Blake's wife, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:03:06.380 He went to Dartmouth.

00:03:07.400 He has an IQ so high you can't count to that number.

00:03:11.040 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:03:12.740 Mike, the Asian.

00:03:14.920 That's right.

00:03:15.420 Yeah, I know, Blake.

00:03:16.120 We have to do a 23andMe genetics test.

00:03:18.280 I've already done it.

00:03:19.480 I've already done it.

00:03:20.180 I'm like 100% German.

00:03:21.960 So you gave your DNA to the CIA.

00:03:23.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:24.440 Or the Mormons.

00:03:25.360 Which one?

00:03:25.580 The ancestry is the Mormons.

00:03:26.840 Yeah, they'll go and like baptize their –

00:03:28.460 You pesky Mormons, Terrell, always collecting our data.

00:03:31.700 It's something else.

00:03:32.620 All right, what is our first topic?

00:03:34.240 Our first topic is, of course – like, we sometimes try to stay away from the breaking news,

00:03:38.640 but this week you just have to.

00:03:40.180 It's Fannie's Fulton Funhouse.

00:03:41.780 Big Fannie Willis.

00:03:42.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:43.440 So, you know, the fourth and maybe final indictment of Trump.

00:03:47.700 I mean, who knows?

00:03:48.380 We'll probably get infinity of them.

00:03:50.220 But we got the fourth indictment of the four they were hyping up all year.

00:03:54.020 Came down from Fulton County.

00:03:55.760 It's probably the most far-reaching of the four.

00:03:58.620 We've got 18 associates of Donald Trump all charged with crimes.

00:04:03.760 They're charged as part of a RICO Act.

00:04:06.580 Oh, is it RICO or RICO?

00:04:07.940 It's RICO.

00:04:08.460 RICO.

00:04:09.460 I don't care.

00:04:09.940 So this is all – is it Fannie or is it Fannie?

00:04:12.360 Is it RICO?

00:04:13.060 Is it RICO?

00:04:14.240 You know, being 100% German, I don't know how to say these.

00:04:17.680 Is it Kiev or Kiev?

00:04:18.460 And then it's Kiev.

00:04:20.440 That's definitively –

00:04:21.740 Oh, see.

00:04:22.260 Okay.

00:04:22.500 So you are big into pronunciations.

00:04:24.100 It matters with Kiev because Kiev is a psyop by the globalists, whereas –

00:04:29.220 So her name is Fannie.

00:04:30.300 This is actually a major point.

00:04:32.100 We're not giving in on this point either.

00:04:33.460 It's big Fannie Willis.

00:04:34.500 Big Fannie Willis.

00:04:35.120 Big Fannie.

00:04:35.400 Yeah.

00:04:35.680 We're in full agreement on this one.

00:04:36.980 That's right.

00:04:37.420 We're drawing a line.

00:04:38.360 Anyway, Fannie Willis is –

00:04:40.240 Her big booty of charges.

00:04:42.300 Her big booty –

00:04:43.500 You've got to be big Fannie, Jack.

00:04:45.080 You can't cross the line, all right?

00:04:47.080 Come on.

00:04:47.820 What do you think this is?

00:04:48.660 So Fannie's pack of charges here has – it's 19 total people, including Trump, and she alleges

00:04:55.760 this big sweeping national conspiracy, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

00:04:59.760 It's all roped in.

00:05:01.820 And the conspiratorial acts include asking for phone numbers.

00:05:07.600 That's right.

00:05:07.920 Mark Meadows asked Scott Perry for a phone number.

00:05:10.140 He asked for a phone number, and that was part of a national conspiracy.

00:05:12.760 I love how they had to repeat it as if for emphasis in the indictment, and this was a

00:05:16.780 furtherance of the conspiracy.

00:05:17.840 Exactly.

00:05:18.260 Everything.

00:05:18.720 And then Trump tweeted about watching OAN, and that was part of the conspiracy.

00:05:24.120 He was watching a legislative hearing on OAN.

00:05:27.280 Maybe he could have watched normal OAN, but watching it with the hearing,

00:05:30.620 you know, it's not colluding.

00:05:32.760 I have to pause.

00:05:33.920 Jack, you've heard of OAN before, right?

00:05:36.300 So I was at OAN when Trump tweeted that people should watch OAN, and no, I wasn't – I have

00:05:46.740 to go back and check, but I don't think I was actually covering that specific, you know,

00:05:51.120 shift when he said to do it.

00:05:53.900 I don't know if I was on.

00:05:54.740 But that being said, you know, the way OAN worked is sometimes you would – you'd record

00:05:58.600 packages or, like, little clips that they would run throughout the day.

00:06:01.840 So it's very possible that Trump has been indicted for telling people to watch me on

00:06:07.480 TV.

00:06:08.420 Amazing.

00:06:09.140 Really amazing.

00:06:09.860 That was the case.

00:06:10.400 Amazing moment in history.

00:06:11.300 Are you an unindicted co-conspirator, Jack Posobiec?

00:06:14.180 Is there something you want to tell us?

00:06:16.040 I think it's a mild miracle he's not already in jail.

00:06:18.560 I mean, it's amazing, right?

00:06:19.900 Like, I came up in the Mueller investigation.

00:06:22.660 I'm in, like, the first section of that.

00:06:24.720 I'm on, like, every other hit list under the sun.

00:06:28.540 It's – I'm actually kind of – I feel like I haven't been trying hard enough, to be

00:06:32.820 honest.

00:06:33.120 The Gen 6 committee was playing my video over and over.

00:06:36.600 I'm not even a co-conspirator.

00:06:38.940 Like, I've been lazy, guys.

00:06:40.280 What can I say?

00:06:41.060 Took a couple years off.

00:06:42.060 Had kids.

00:06:43.120 I don't know.

00:06:43.480 Grew a beard.

00:06:44.420 He's losing his touch.

00:06:45.340 He's losing his touch.

00:06:46.260 He's losing his touch.

00:06:47.040 Really losing his touch.

00:06:47.660 So, Rob, I kind of wrote this as an over-the-top, exaggerated question, but in a weird way, it's

00:06:52.880 really true.

00:06:53.740 Like, is this – like, it's an attempt to basically scuttle a presidential candidate.

00:06:59.180 It's a very direct attack on First Amendment rights of speech and the right to petition the

00:07:05.220 government for redress of grievances, which is usually not in much dispute in America.

00:07:08.640 So, like, where does this rank as, like, an act of aggression against the American constitutional

00:07:13.640 system?

00:07:14.140 It's basically just low-IQ political warfare.

00:07:17.660 I actually am – I lived in Fulton County for, like, six years, and it's one of these

00:07:21.840 classic upper-middle class, you know, centrist suburbs that probably the second this woman

00:07:28.320 got on the ballot thought that she was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

00:07:31.140 This is the state that keeps giving you Stacey Abrams, and this is why we have to deal with

00:07:34.500 Miss Fannie Willis.

00:07:35.940 Democrats have dozens and dozens and dozens of these people across the country, sort of

00:07:41.660 basically lawfare activists in district attorney's offices whose job it is to harass their political

00:07:49.240 opponents.

00:07:49.740 And you see it in states that you don't expect.

00:07:51.620 You see it in red states most of all, especially red states with urban areas.

00:07:54.980 And this woman is, to be entirely clear, a dyed-in-the-wool activist.

00:07:58.360 Her degree is from Howard University, you know –

00:08:02.540 That's an HBCU, right?

00:08:03.480 Yeah, known for –

00:08:04.740 They let Kamala in.

00:08:05.920 Yeah, known for creating many truly, truly excellent prosecutors.

00:08:10.640 And her dad was a Black Panther.

00:08:12.220 And she has basically made it clear that her entire goal in office is to go after the enemies

00:08:19.780 of the Democratic Party.

00:08:21.040 And this rushed, low-IQ indictment is the biggest proof of it.

00:08:25.780 Yeah, when I think of legal excellence, I think of HBCUs.

00:08:29.480 Totally.

00:08:30.180 Yeah, for me, this is like the Spirit Airlines of indictments, the DMV of indictments.

00:08:38.540 It's just – I mean, you could go down the list.

00:08:42.440 It's really endless.

00:08:44.100 The BET image awards of indictments?

00:08:46.760 Yes, exactly, exactly.

00:08:48.340 But when I think – when I read Norm Eisen's report, his op-ed this morning in New York

00:08:55.900 Times, because I've learned that the way to find what the left is doing is just read whatever

00:08:59.980 Norm Eisen is saying, because he's got an IQ that's like two points ahead of the rest

00:09:04.300 of him.

00:09:04.640 So he's like 117, and they – he's sitting there going in the New York Times, and he's

00:09:11.220 just talking about how much he loves this indictment, and it's great because he charged

00:09:14.600 everybody, and they have this really novel legal theories.

00:09:17.500 It's so insane.

00:09:18.460 And he's looking at this thing, and he's like, wow, Norm Eisen is just eyeing up Fannie

00:09:24.420 Willis' big, big booty of charges and saying, I love this.

00:09:30.280 He can't talk about anything else.

00:09:31.680 The real question that I have left is, can she back it up in court that it?

00:09:37.820 Can she back that up?

00:09:39.720 She has to because we need – reality converges on what's funny.

00:09:44.240 That's one of the reasons Trump became president.

00:09:46.460 And so we are hurtling towards this reality that needs to come into existence, which is

00:09:52.260 Fannie Willis needs to run for Senate or governor of Georgia because when she runs, we'll be

00:09:59.460 able to get fanny pack.

00:10:05.920 And it just needs to happen.

00:10:07.420 That reality needs to come into existence.

00:10:09.280 And so that makes me worry because I feel like in that case, we do need – this case

00:10:14.260 is going to have to get along far enough that she'll be able to run for Senate.

00:10:17.160 So like the laws of reality ordain that this case will be with us for a while.

00:10:20.420 How funny would it be if Fannie Willis becomes like a statewide elected official in Georgia

00:10:24.600 before Stacey Abrams?

00:10:27.720 That would also be really funny.

00:10:29.200 Crap, she's going to be the next governor of Georgia, isn't she?

00:10:31.780 Like it's too funny to not happen.

00:10:34.200 Rule of funny.

00:10:34.940 We're screwed.

00:10:35.760 This stinks.

00:10:36.760 So apparently –

00:10:38.420 I was going to say the clip.

00:10:39.900 I think we do have a clip because like she can't read.

00:10:42.340 Like she literally can't read.

00:10:44.480 I haven't seen this.

00:10:45.540 Well, so let – I don't know if we have that clip, but I do want to make sure everyone

00:10:49.220 is clear because I was educated on Georgia politics today by Colton Moore, who is doing

00:10:54.540 his job as a state representative.

00:10:56.320 Apparently there is a RICO case also pending against Young Thug and Young Blood.

00:11:04.220 Was it Young Blood?

00:11:05.420 Something like that.

00:11:05.980 It was Young Blood Thug?

00:11:06.780 Yeah, Young Blood.

00:11:07.660 Young Thug was one.

00:11:08.960 Young Thug Blood.

00:11:10.520 Something like that.

00:11:11.420 Anyway, what's great about it is it's also a RICO, RICO, I don't care, case, and it's

00:11:16.920 like the largest trial in Georgia history.

00:11:19.980 Like it's jury selections been going on for months or I think almost a year even.

00:11:23.780 But these are actual crimes, right?

00:11:26.040 Yeah, you know, yeah, actual stuff is involved.

00:11:28.540 And it's expected like the trial itself will go on for months.

00:11:31.520 And that's what's really fascinating with this indictment is why they went after 18 people.

00:11:35.400 It's not just a matter of like, oh, we have to get everyone in Trump's orbit, though

00:11:39.020 it is that it's also that they like simply by trying all of these, you know, nearly two

00:11:45.140 dozen people together all at once, they guarantee that this trial just goes on and on and on.

00:11:51.340 And to the extent that this is all partly about 2024, they make Trump be kind of stuck

00:11:57.420 in court or at least obsessed with court happenings for months on end instead of, you

00:12:02.380 know, campaigning for the White House.

00:12:05.000 Partly about 2024?

00:12:05.940 The whole thing is.

00:12:09.160 OK, so let's all right, let's play a piece of tape here.

00:12:12.960 Is this one where Fannie is struggling to read?

00:12:15.820 OK, they're all they're all Fannie's really to read.

00:12:18.080 Play cut 96.

00:12:20.360 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.

00:12:24.820 I am giving the defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon.

00:12:31.860 It's very important for ever.

00:12:36.820 Hmm.

00:12:37.560 Wakanda forever.

00:12:38.460 That's what that sounds like.

00:12:40.060 She might as well.

00:12:41.260 So, Rob, you can get away with the most commentary here.

00:12:43.520 Well, what are your passions?

00:12:45.260 Tell you part of the reason I find her so funny is because she's she's part of this class

00:12:49.580 of people that are trying to basically bring Wakanda forever into American politics.

00:12:56.260 So like she's been profiled before in Time magazine and in it she was talking about how

00:13:00.920 her name is very Afrocentric and that, you know, her middle name, which is Taifa.

00:13:06.120 And I believe her first name as well are Swahili.

00:13:08.960 So there's there's a lot of weird psychological stuff going on here.

00:13:12.760 And I just, you know, I don't I don't have a hard time blaming her because, you know, English

00:13:18.620 isn't her first language.

00:13:19.700 Wakandan is.

00:13:20.480 So it's it's understandable.

00:13:22.920 I didn't realize you guys had the same middle name.

00:13:28.220 OK, I'm told we have to we have to back it up.

00:13:30.760 That's what I'm told.

00:13:32.140 All right.

00:13:32.460 Let's play cut 90.

00:13:36.120 That I am told this is hearsay, but I am told by a reliable source that Friday evening,

00:13:42.480 somebody from Washington called the district attorney in Atlanta and said, you have to

00:13:46.920 indict on Monday.

00:13:48.400 We have to cover up all of the mistakes we just made with Weiss.

00:13:52.740 And she said, apparently, my jurors aren't coming back till Tuesday.

00:13:57.160 And they said, you didn't hear me.

00:13:58.360 You have to indict on Monday.

00:14:01.180 And she said, well, they're not going to get here before noon.

00:14:03.840 They said that doesn't matter.

00:14:05.060 She said, this means it's going to be eight or nine or 10 o'clock at night.

00:14:08.100 She said, it doesn't matter.

00:14:10.340 We need the news.

00:14:11.420 So who made that phone call?

00:14:14.540 We don't know.

00:14:15.720 And I'm telling you up front, this is hearsay.

00:14:18.120 But it's from a person who has remarkably good sources.

00:14:21.040 I totally believe it, though, because that would explain why they leaked and they messed

00:14:24.300 up on the clerk document, why she was exhausted and why they had the 11 p.m.

00:14:28.560 press conference, Mr. Speaker.

00:14:33.580 So, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, take it and run.

00:14:37.860 I was going to say, so this is actually really important.

00:14:40.980 And, you know, kudos to you for the scoop earlier today on this, that we have completely

00:14:48.880 forgotten about the special counsel and Hunter Biden.

00:14:53.140 I don't even think conservative media, anyone on conservative media talked about the Hunter

00:14:59.860 Biden case, the Hunter Biden special counsel anywhere this entire week until you and Newt

00:15:06.240 brought it up.

00:15:07.240 And you know what?

00:15:08.180 The minute that I heard that earlier today, when I saw this clip when I was watching your

00:15:12.640 show, that it just hit me.

00:15:14.920 This is exactly why they did it.

00:15:17.540 That's why they rushed it through.

00:15:18.860 Because, Charlie, you remember, and we try to plan our show out the same way you do.

00:15:22.320 We know that, OK, the grand jury is going to be meeting.

00:15:25.000 They just sat down a new one.

00:15:26.360 They expire at the end of August.

00:15:28.260 So they've got a couple more weeks charges.

00:15:30.300 You know, we've been hearing through our sources.

00:15:32.060 We were told midweek.

00:15:33.480 But then all of a sudden, they come Monday and, oh, by the way, they're making mistakes.

00:15:38.100 They got this clerk down in Fulton County.

00:15:39.940 I thought we were going to have another pipe explosion.

00:15:42.380 No, it wasn't a pipe explosion.

00:15:43.680 She said she hit send instead of hitting save when she was typing up the document, because

00:15:49.020 it turns out that they already knew the charges before the jury even finished.

00:15:53.400 Then the judge holds everyone until midnight, acts like it's totally normal, acts like it's

00:15:57.440 just normal course of business.

00:15:58.700 Oh, we're just, you know, we're just doing going through the motions down here in Fulton

00:16:01.560 County like we would for anybody else.

00:16:03.840 None of them ever steps back and says this is completely insane.

00:16:07.280 This is like indicting an entire football team all at once.

00:16:10.300 Why is the urgency?

00:16:11.640 What's the point of this?

00:16:12.540 It's all about the news cycle.

00:16:14.100 It's all about the news cycle.

00:16:15.740 We have Evita Duffy from The Federalist on, and this has been her thesis from the start,

00:16:21.520 that they keep doing this over and over.

00:16:23.500 Something bad happens to Hunter, you indict Trump.

00:16:25.880 And I hadn't actually connected these two because it had happened on Friday.

00:16:29.520 I think Newt is 100% right.

00:16:32.040 So stepping back in the bigger picture is sort of the debate here is that's really been

00:16:37.380 going on even before any charges were brought, which is, is the entire prosecution of Trump

00:16:44.060 from all these angles, you know, Bragg, D.C., Fulton County, even the, you know, civil cases

00:16:49.620 out of New York.

00:16:50.280 Like, is it at all, like, centrally planned or coordinated, whether this specific version

00:16:55.620 is true or not?

00:16:56.340 Like, is there someone, is there some brain trust, whether it's one person or 10 people

00:17:00.940 or 50 people, where they really at some point strategize, like, okay, we're going to want

00:17:05.600 to roll out these indictments so they're not simultaneous, so that all of our trials are

00:17:09.980 spaced out over the course of 2024 to, you know, maximize the distraction power and really,

00:17:15.580 like, you know, make sure we get the most out of this pot as possible by all working

00:17:19.780 together, and is that what's taking place?

00:17:22.960 And I go back and forth.

00:17:25.140 It does seem like the reaction to Alvin Bragg's one was so muted.

00:17:28.660 I could even, I could buy it as the DOJ and Fulton County were in full collusion, and then

00:17:33.600 Alvin Bragg, like, comes in, like, fat Albert and is like, hey, hey, hey, I got an indictment,

00:17:41.540 and blew the whole thing up, and they all got really annoyed at him.

00:17:44.360 I believe this is centralized.

00:17:47.020 Somebody is harmonizing and conducting this, and I think the evidence was, let's have the

00:17:51.760 weakest indictment with the craziest prosecutor go first, which was Alvin Bragg, move the Overton

00:17:57.820 window to pave the way, right?

00:18:00.460 He's the fullback of indictments so that he could block the linebacker, you know, to use

00:18:05.560 the football analogy, so that then Jack Smith can then follow through, right?

00:18:09.360 Because it went Alvin Bragg, documents, January 6th, Fannie, Fannie Willis, Fannie, big Fannie

00:18:14.540 Willis.

00:18:14.820 Yes, Saurabh.

00:18:15.560 This is also the indictment made to make, designed to make all of the past indictments

00:18:20.580 easier.

00:18:21.220 The wide sweep that they've done with almost anyone who's even tangentially provided the

00:18:27.080 former president legal help over the last few years is designed to send a very clear

00:18:31.220 message.

00:18:32.040 If you give legal services to President Trump to help him with any of these other cases,

00:18:38.000 being a presidential nominee, being a general election candidate, being involved in helping

00:18:42.580 defend him in court at all, you will be attacked.

00:18:45.760 Yes.

00:18:45.860 Your families will be hurt.

00:18:47.080 That's right.

00:18:47.500 There will be protesters in front of your door every single day.

00:18:50.240 There will be nails in your driveway.

00:18:52.120 You will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees.

00:18:54.540 None of that is me inventing anything.

00:18:57.140 That's just what I've heard of what one lawyer is experiencing, John Eastman, and how his family

00:19:02.060 has been harassed.

00:19:02.820 You have decent, normal, patriotic, frankly, dorky academic lawyers who just were providing

00:19:09.280 the president legal counsel and advice who have been sweeped up in this.

00:19:12.800 And the process is the punishment.

00:19:14.000 None of these people are independently wealthy, and it's designed to draw away resources, time,

00:19:19.520 and energy that could be devoted to actually implementing a future conservative administration's

00:19:25.120 agenda or providing the Republican nominee adequate legal representation during what every

00:19:32.200 election is going to be moving forward, which is a contested one.

00:19:34.600 There's always a trillion lawsuits that fly left and right in any presidential election, and

00:19:39.120 this is designed to make sure that the president does not have good legal representation next time.

00:19:44.400 Yeah, I mean, I know a top-tier lawyer that was reached out to by the Trump team, top-tier, former DOJ guy.

00:19:52.240 And I spoke to him off the record about a month and a half ago.

00:19:55.300 I said, hey, I think you'd be great.

00:19:56.460 I mean, he would really help the Trump team.

00:19:58.100 He'd be amazing.

00:19:58.960 And he's like, yeah, I'm not going to do it.

00:20:00.540 I was like, why?

00:20:01.100 He's like, look, I like Trump.

00:20:03.580 He's like, there's some things I really don't like about him.

00:20:05.800 He's like, the money would be good.

00:20:06.900 He's like, but I would get in bar complaints, and my reputation would be destroyed.

00:20:10.720 And he's like, that's, it's just not for me.

00:20:12.880 That's a real thing.

00:20:14.320 I mean, what they've done to really isolate Donald Trump, and I mean, I don't want to say

00:20:18.180 any in particular, but if you talk to any sophisticated lawyer, I don't know a ton, but

00:20:22.700 I know enough to be dangerous.

00:20:24.160 Donald Trump's team is made fun of constantly.

00:20:27.040 Is that fair to say, Blake?

00:20:28.340 Like, in serious legal minds, they're like, a better legal team could crush these indictments.

00:20:33.840 Like, if you had 10 out of 10 lawyers, you could come in, and you could counter-sue, and you'd

00:20:39.560 be taken seriously.

00:20:40.380 There is a, that's an interesting thing I want to explore, Blake.

00:20:43.780 One of the reasons why Donald Trump is in such legal jeopardy is because he does not have

00:20:48.060 the highest quality legal counsel.

00:20:50.200 Is that fair?

00:20:50.840 It's very fair.

00:20:51.940 And, you know, it's a mix of this really intense aggression.

00:20:55.640 I think one big episode in 2020 was, I can't remember the firm off the top of my head, but

00:21:00.880 they did retain, you know, one of the elite white shoe firms for some of their election cases,

00:21:06.080 and the backlash was so intense.

00:21:07.600 The firm comes out and announces, we're not going to do any more, you know, cases contesting

00:21:12.000 an election from here on out.

00:21:13.460 And, of course, I imagine they'll be perfectly happy to do so if the DNC pays them to do it

00:21:17.800 in 24 or 28.

00:21:20.300 And, you know, so that really active aggression, all these bar complaints, and even it's one

00:21:25.560 of the less commented on parts of the Fulton case, is part of the conspiracy claim, and

00:21:30.880 I think actually it's one of the direct charges, one of the, like, false statements, is they

00:21:34.740 just straight up say, like, you know, these attorneys for Trump filed a legal case that

00:21:39.860 made false statements.

00:21:41.960 You know, any lawsuit is going to involve two competing versions of the truth.

00:21:45.480 We don't traditionally, you know, sacrifice the losers like they're a losing Mesoamerican

00:21:51.080 ball sport team.

00:21:53.320 And, but now apparently we do if they're related to Trump, and they're really sending the message

00:21:59.300 of if you're a lawyer and anywhere in the orbit, anywhere in the universe of, you know,

00:22:05.180 the Trump world, like, you're just not going to have a career ever again.

00:22:08.020 So, Jack, let's build this out.

00:22:09.680 You and I both know several of the people involved in this, you know, Rudy Giuliani,

00:22:14.620 John Eastman, and they will tell you privately and publicly that they have to be told, they're

00:22:21.180 told no 40 times before they find a lawyer.

00:22:24.640 And the blue chip law firms want nothing to do.

00:22:28.460 So I'll just give you an example, right?

00:22:30.100 So Andrew Gillum was indicted by the federal government on all sorts of different types

00:22:34.820 of stuff.

00:22:35.660 Mark Elias came in and represented him, who is a great lawyer.

00:22:39.680 And he had a great supporting cast and Andrew Gillum beat the charges and the DOJ is probably

00:22:45.180 not going to retry them.

00:22:46.940 And so you can win, especially when it's political and it depends on the venue.

00:22:51.420 But there's this thing called the 65 project, which is a bipartisan effort to make sure that

00:22:56.260 Donald Trump or anyone around Donald Trump does not have legal representation.

00:23:00.500 This is the buried lead here, Jack.

00:23:02.460 They have awful indictments on top of lawyers that they're not as good as gets.

00:23:09.080 And now this is interesting because I'll just finish the point.

00:23:11.700 The audience might say, how big of a difference is a good lawyer, a bad lawyer as someone who's

00:23:15.420 been around for 11 years?

00:23:16.640 It makes a whole difference.

00:23:17.480 OK, it's like the whole ballgame.

00:23:19.860 I mean, having if you've ever fought the government or had to ever contest anything, the quality

00:23:24.860 of a lawyer is everything.

00:23:26.600 Jack Posobiec.

00:23:27.520 Real quick.

00:23:27.960 You can bring up the 65 project website here just so they can.

00:23:31.080 Jack, I want to man, I want to say something.

00:23:34.900 So I've sat through all of the so-called Trump indictment that have gone to trial in Washington,

00:23:44.000 D.C. that have led to this.

00:23:45.580 And when I say the Trump indictment, I mean, the indictments of everyone who's been in the

00:23:49.600 Trump that going back to Paul Manafort, I sat through the Paul Manafort case.

00:23:53.540 I sat through Flynn's hearings.

00:23:57.040 He didn't actually go to trial.

00:23:58.500 Roger Stone, Steve Bannon.

00:24:00.420 I went I was at the George Papadopoulos hearings.

00:24:03.920 Probably a bunch that I'm not even thinking of at this point.

00:24:05.880 So who can even keep track of that crap?

00:24:07.800 And the the point is that I've seen lawyers who seem like they're absolutely fantastic,

00:24:14.840 who really bring things that are totally just just well put together, well structured.

00:24:21.540 They've got because people understand that you've got to do a ton of work just to show

00:24:25.700 up in court.

00:24:26.900 It's not a movie.

00:24:28.160 This isn't the Lincoln lawyer where you can just like operate out of the backseat of your

00:24:32.500 car and go in and win cases against the government.

00:24:35.340 It's not like that.

00:24:36.840 OK, and, you know, no with with all apologies to Michael Connolly, who I'm a huge fan of

00:24:42.300 his work, that in the in the Fed, when you're going up against the federal government

00:24:47.160 that has literally unlimited resources and, you know, you sort of got the federal government

00:24:52.340 junior in the case of New York District, as well as Fulton County here, because, you

00:24:58.300 know, that they're all they basically all said publicly at this point that they're all

00:25:02.780 sharing information.

00:25:03.620 So Fannie Willis is getting information from Jack Smith and they're all polluting.

00:25:08.640 It's a Jack.

00:25:09.360 I got I got to interrupt you.

00:25:10.820 We have some.

00:25:11.580 Yes, go ahead.

00:25:12.080 Finish with some breaking.

00:25:13.600 I'm just going to say I've seen both.

00:25:15.940 And when you're on the wrong side of a bad lawyer, it's like it's just be guilty.

00:25:21.560 Like maybe just maybe you'll get a better a better sentence out of it.

00:25:24.260 I don't know.

00:25:24.640 So breaking news, as if the DOJ is not completely compromised, judges and all breaking in the

00:25:32.020 last couple seconds, federal judge in Delaware has now dismissed without prejudice for venue

00:25:40.560 reasons, the tax charges against Hunter Biden might not be as bad as it looks.

00:25:45.260 It looks like this is a motion from the union.

00:25:47.800 Of course, it looks bad.

00:25:48.960 OK, it's but it's a motion from the United States.

00:25:51.400 And it states the United States has moved, quote, to voluntarily dismiss the information

00:25:56.500 filed in the above captioned matter without prejudice.

00:25:59.220 That means it can be brought again so that the United States can bring tax charges in

00:26:03.520 a district where venue lies.

00:26:05.460 Venue is where you're charging a person.

00:26:07.900 So the immediate reading might be that they just plan to charge Hunter with tax violations

00:26:12.340 in a different.

00:26:13.220 Why did they file it in Delaware then originally?

00:26:15.340 I don't know.

00:26:15.740 Was it his residence?

00:26:16.500 I mean, I don't know.

00:26:17.720 I know.

00:26:18.080 I don't know enough about this case.

00:26:19.340 You have to file it because that's where the crime took place.

00:26:22.880 But go ahead, Jack.

00:26:23.780 I think the reason that it started in Delaware was because Barr had initially assigned it

00:26:27.640 there to this is where Weiss came from, that who at the time was the U.S.

00:26:32.560 attorney for Delaware, that specific district.

00:26:36.020 And now now he has been made a special counsel because this all this remember, this all came

00:26:41.540 to a head when that sweetheart plea deal was completely blown up in court.

00:26:45.660 And essentially, the judge said, well, no, this doesn't cover future charges.

00:26:51.240 So, Blake, to your point about prejudice being very important as to whether or not the charges

00:26:56.420 can be re-brought in another district or even that district, what's really going on here

00:27:01.500 is jurisdiction shopping and judge shopping because a special counsel has the ability to

00:27:08.480 bring these in different areas.

00:27:10.100 This was actually, by the way, one of the things that the IRS whistleblowers brought

00:27:15.160 up way back when we had those hearings was because the fact that they were they wanted

00:27:20.880 Weiss to be a special counsel because they thought they would be it would be about bringing

00:27:24.840 more charges against Hunter.

00:27:26.740 Now it turns out that it's not about that.

00:27:28.480 It's about taking this sweetheart deal and bringing it to either a jurisdiction or a different

00:27:33.400 judge that will basically rubber stamp.

00:27:36.420 Yeah, this this is bad.

00:27:40.220 This is that we'll see.

00:27:42.120 But so then therefore, Blake, it will take the DOJ to refile charges in a different venue.

00:27:46.780 Yeah.

00:27:47.260 And I'm not sure where that would be.

00:27:48.640 Probably D.C.

00:27:49.320 If it could be D.C.

00:27:50.240 It could be New York.

00:27:51.060 It could be any.

00:27:52.480 I mean, it could even be that they decide you were living in California when you did it.

00:27:57.400 He does have a good.

00:27:58.420 I remember looking this up when I was trying to see if we could charge Hunter in any random

00:28:02.280 place.

00:28:02.620 And he does, unfortunately, have a habit of committing his crimes in blue states almost

00:28:06.980 intentionally.

00:28:08.080 Maybe he received a wire when he was in Arkansas.

00:28:10.660 Don't hold your breath, though.

00:28:12.220 That's so anyway, that was some breaking news here.

00:28:13.920 What is the we'll keep our eyes on that.

00:28:16.780 So Rob, do you have any comments on any of this?

00:28:18.740 I just think it's worth comparing the quality of legal representation that Hunter Biden gets

00:28:23.780 and that the president gets riff on that.

00:28:25.620 Um, the worst thing that's going on in the legal profession right now for the right of

00:28:31.500 center is that if you are someone at the top of your profession, you're a partner at

00:28:36.580 one of these big firms, whether it's Sullivan and Cromwell or Paul Weiss or Cooper and Kirk

00:28:41.260 or Jones Day, whatever it might be on the left of center, the left of center partners

00:28:46.120 could represent the worst, most heinous, rapist, terrorist, pedophile the world has ever seen.

00:28:52.580 And they will get showered with legal accolades and glory for being part of ensuring that we

00:28:59.120 have a proper system of justice in this country.

00:29:02.640 In fact, they were all through the 2000s and early 2010s.

00:29:05.360 You would see these, uh, you know, these lawyers who are getting paid millions and millions

00:29:10.020 of dollars at their firm get awarded plenty of time to do pro bono hours to support the

00:29:15.460 people who blew up the twin towers, basically.

00:29:18.520 Um, now if you are someone who is a lawyer and let's be honest, most lawyers are risk averse

00:29:25.620 people who went into that profession for its stability and consistency, it has been made

00:29:31.960 very clear to you that you cannot be involved on the right of center.

00:29:34.440 That's correct.

00:29:35.600 But if it's to defend the basket case son of the former president, if anything, it is

00:29:39.360 a career bonus.

00:29:40.740 No, I mean, look, let's even be more specific.

00:29:43.280 Ted Kaczynski received better legal help than Donald Trump will.

00:29:48.380 I mean, your average like BLM store looter got better legal help than Trump did.

00:29:52.980 They're all getting like million dollar payouts from New York City now.

00:29:55.940 No doubt.

00:29:56.620 Your average illegal alien gets better legal representation than Donald Trump does because

00:30:00.680 of the nonprofits on the border.

00:30:02.220 That's right, Jack.

00:30:02.800 When I was when I was at Guantanamo Bay, so this this came up frequently where we would

00:30:07.820 have lawyers traveling down to meet with their defendants who are the detainees.

00:30:13.240 These were some of the most high powered lawyers.

00:30:15.120 They were making cases out of it.

00:30:16.860 Some of the ones who have been released have gone on to write books.

00:30:21.020 Jordan Peterson interviewed this one just absolute fabulous storyteller detainee who got

00:30:26.000 out and just made up a ton of stuff in his book and was was able to be out there.

00:30:31.920 And these these were people and the media would repeat everything they said about brands in

00:30:37.860 the toilet and sharing Harry Potter book.

00:30:40.340 Then actually, they did read Harry Potter books.

00:30:42.220 But Twilight books was a big lie that they spread at one point.

00:30:45.240 And so I remember seeing this going like, did did these guys know what these people are

00:30:52.180 here for?

00:30:52.840 Like, they're totally cool with that.

00:30:54.060 Like, and I get you.

00:30:54.840 Everybody deserves a defense.

00:30:55.900 I get that.

00:30:56.400 But but really made me ask that question.

00:30:59.220 And OK, I say, all right, everyone, you know, deserves a defense.

00:31:02.100 But then you realize that for a lot of these lawyers, it's about getting a career by saying,

00:31:07.180 oh, I beat the the U.S. government.

00:31:09.520 And now we're at a point where I think I just saw earlier today that there's a plea deal in

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00:32:52.940 Now, somebody just paid $20 on a rumble rants.

00:32:58.420 They said, I'm chipping in $20 for extra batteries for the smoke alarms.

00:33:02.500 Smoke alarms?

00:33:03.640 What do you mean?

00:33:04.440 What's the smoke alarm thing?

00:33:06.620 I mean, I think someone made a certain funny video of Fanny Willis speaking with the fire

00:33:13.020 alarm going off.

00:33:14.340 Wouldn't know who would say that.

00:33:15.180 I thought that was Joy Roy Reed's living room.

00:33:17.640 I didn't notice that.

00:33:19.360 Can we play that clip again?

00:33:21.260 Because I just, I just, I didn't notice that.

00:33:26.640 Nah, we, we unfortunately have to, have to move on.

00:33:29.220 We have to rush on to a very important topic.

00:33:31.080 We're going to talk about Maui.

00:33:32.520 We have to talk about Maui.

00:33:33.620 Maui, the Maui maelstrom.

00:33:35.220 So very tragically, of course, there was this big fire in Maui.

00:33:39.240 Oh, wait, no, the team says we have to play it.

00:33:40.960 Play 96.

00:33:42.500 Fine.

00:33:43.760 The grand jury issued arrest warrants for those who are charged.

00:33:47.300 I am giving the defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender no later than noon.

00:33:56.260 Okay.

00:33:56.780 Maui.

00:33:57.360 Maui.

00:33:57.880 All right.

00:33:58.180 Yeah.

00:33:58.300 I don't, I don't hear it in the clip, by the way.

00:33:59.840 I think that's our own clip.

00:34:01.160 Uh-oh.

00:34:01.980 Well, so Maui had a tragic fire this past, this past week.

00:34:05.880 It's very bad.

00:34:06.520 It's 111 confirmed dead last I checked.

00:34:09.320 And there's like 1,000 people still missing.

00:34:11.900 So we could end up in a situation where this is like a 9-11 level catastrophe.

00:34:16.800 So very tragic.

00:34:18.020 We're very respectful of that.

00:34:20.420 But obviously, any disaster gets immediately politicized in often disturbing ways.

00:34:26.480 And so naturally, the one that comes to mind with any natural disaster is global warming

00:34:31.300 was related to it somehow.

00:34:32.500 So a lot of people claimed this.

00:34:33.760 The governor of Hawaii said that climate change was driving this because it caused the fire

00:34:39.500 hurricane to take place.

00:34:41.200 Even ABC News was unimpressed by that.

00:34:43.220 They did a little article that said fire hurricanes aren't real.

00:34:46.800 But they still asserted that.

00:34:48.780 But what's becoming more worrisome is it seems that whatever the natural causes of the fire,

00:34:55.040 it was definitely exacerbated by what seems to be ideology and incompetence within Maui's

00:35:02.260 government.

00:35:02.560 So first of all, the chief emergency management officer of Maui, Herman Ndaya, is a guy with

00:35:08.520 a law degree and a political science degree.

00:35:11.200 And as a guy who has a political science degree, they're not impressive.

00:35:15.840 Even from Dartmouth?

00:35:16.700 Even from Dartmouth.

00:35:17.820 They call it a government degree.

00:35:18.800 You went to some school.

00:35:19.700 You went to UT, right?

00:35:20.660 I did.

00:35:21.040 I went to state school.

00:35:21.880 Not as fancy as Mr. Neff here.

00:35:23.560 At Dartmouth, they call it a government degree, which kind of obscures how stupid they are.

00:35:28.260 But they are still stupid.

00:35:29.560 They do that at UT also.

00:35:30.540 You ruling class people with your pieces of paper.

00:35:33.860 It's ghastly.

00:35:34.500 It's ghastly.

00:35:35.160 Anyway, he has a political science degree and a law degree.

00:35:38.260 And then he somehow is Maui's emergency manager.

00:35:40.940 He assured us that he watched many online FEMA trainings and workshops.

00:35:47.500 Ah.

00:35:47.940 And so he was the guy in charge of their big emergency response.

00:35:51.320 He's the guy who made the call to not, you know, sound their warning sirens.

00:35:55.680 Which, in all fairness, I could see both sides of the argument.

00:35:57.980 I've heard from locals he's not totally on.

00:35:59.780 There's an argument both ways.

00:36:00.900 So we won't drag him too much for that.

00:36:02.480 But there's probably other stuff we don't know about.

00:36:05.160 The other big thing is their water resources division.

00:36:08.800 Yeah, this went viral, my whole take on this.

00:36:11.040 This went viral, yes.

00:36:12.180 So we have the Hawaii Department of Land and Natural Resources.

00:36:15.080 You know, they have limited water in Hawaii.

00:36:16.500 They have to manage it a bit.

00:36:17.860 And as these fires are breaking out, these landowners are begging the land department,

00:36:21.760 hey, can we take some of the water that we have, you know, stockpiled and use it to fight this fire?

00:36:26.180 And the state water official in question that they spoke to, according to local media reporting on this,

00:36:30.780 was a guy, M. Kaleo Manuel.

00:36:33.420 He has a degree in Hawaiian studies.

00:36:38.220 And he has very interesting ideas about water.

00:36:42.680 Which, do we still have that clip available?

00:36:44.840 I think it was clip 80.

00:36:45.740 Oh, yeah.

00:36:46.120 No, these are pagan earth worshippers.

00:36:48.740 Play cut 80.

00:36:49.700 The commission is responsible, per our authorizing statute, to protect and manage all water resources in the state.

00:36:59.560 One water is, like, taking it and looking at it from a holistic system perspective.

00:37:03.560 You know, in essence, we treated, Native Hawaiians treated water as one of the earthly manifestations of agad and akua kane.

00:37:11.420 We've become used to looking at water as, like, something which we use and not necessarily something that we revere as that thing that gives us life, right?

00:37:22.540 I mean, to me, it's a shift in value set.

00:37:24.880 So, really, my motto is always, like, let water connect us and not divide us.

00:37:28.860 Like, we can share it, but it requires true conversations about equity.

00:37:35.500 That's just a bunch of pagan crap.

00:37:36.900 Now, we highlighted this.

00:37:38.140 This guy highlighted on Media Matters.

00:37:39.680 You can bring it up on the laptop here.

00:37:40.900 Because I went all out.

00:37:42.020 Yeah, we just went, like, okay, this guy is saying, like, you know, water is a manifestation of the deity, and we need to revere the water, not use the water.

00:37:51.140 And, you know, he revered the water all the way until 106 people died, it turns out, because he turned down the request for the water, and then this fire ended up exploding out of control, killing a ton of people.

00:38:03.540 And it doesn't even stop there.

00:38:04.860 The Hawaiian Electric, the local power company, they've known for years that they have these invasive grasses that are growing all over Hawaii.

00:38:13.040 They're very much a fire hazard.

00:38:15.420 And everyone kind of knows about it.

00:38:16.660 They've been having years of warnings, like, this is going to burn up, and they're growing a lot around our electric wires, which spark and will cause fires.

00:38:22.560 And over the last few years, Hawaiian Electric spent a grand total of maybe, like, $225,000 on fire mitigation.

00:38:31.680 And they spent a lot more than that on what Hawaii really cares about, which is they're one of the first states to pass a decree that all electricity has to be renewable by, you know, some distant date in the future.

00:38:43.040 I think, 2045, in Hawaii's case.

00:38:45.980 And so they spent a lot of money on that, because the Hawaiian lawmakers are very concerned with that.

00:38:50.280 And the good news for them is, is they're apparently going to need a lot less electrical power now, because they have screwed up massively enough that they burned down much of the island of Maui.

00:38:59.400 Yeah, I mean, this feels like government incompetency and ideology.

00:39:03.200 So, Rob, your reaction?

00:39:04.680 This is what it's like to live in a country that is getting worse.

00:39:07.960 You know, we had 50 years of highly competent young men who served in a couple of wars who came back to the country and just wanted to have a middle-class income and help maintain our basic infrastructure, whether it was our electricity, our sewage, our cities, towns, et cetera.

00:39:24.820 Now those people are retiring, and they're passing away, and they're being replaced by people like that very fruity-sounding gentleman we just heard from.

00:39:32.180 And everything is going to get much, much worse.

00:39:35.700 It's going to get slower.

00:39:36.580 It's going to get less consistent, and the task of building Western civilization becomes impossible when you have incompetent people like this running around.

00:39:45.660 The ideologization of energy, it can sound like a normie Republican issue at some point, but it is actually a big problem, because without stable, consistent energy, none of this works.

00:39:56.060 Human civilization is not possible, certainly not on a tiny island, a six-hour flight away from the mainland continent.

00:40:01.500 If anything, I'd be much more precious if I was Hawaii with having really competent infrastructure in place.

00:40:08.060 I'm sure it's possible to attract really high-quality engineers.

00:40:11.000 They can get a nice house on the beach, whatever.

00:40:12.920 Put the competent guys in charge of that, as opposed to dumb ideologues who majored in Hawaiian studies.

00:40:19.300 It's very much going under the radar, but, for example, I just brought up an article because I remembered reading it, and in the 12 years from 2012 to 2022, power outages went up 64% in the United States.

00:40:32.860 Our population did not go up 64%, but power outages did.

00:40:36.140 Yeah, that style, baby.

00:40:36.800 Yeah, and it's not super bad yet.

00:40:39.740 Most of us, we're not in South Africa where it's out eight hours a day or more, but we used to be able to take for granted that certain services would just impeccably run, just perfectly.

00:40:51.640 It was a freak incident if the lights went out, and now it's just here and there, there's problems, and a lot of things are running on these old boomers and Gen X types who are just highly capable of fading out.

00:41:03.660 So there's something, and you're familiar with this, Saurabh, because you've run in some of these circles.

00:41:07.560 Jack, you've heard this.

00:41:08.760 What is it?

00:41:09.300 Eric Weinstein, not Brett Weinstein, has a thing called the ego, the embedded growth obligation.

00:41:13.480 You've heard this, Saurabh?

00:41:14.500 Definitely.

00:41:14.900 Yeah, it's in a lot of those kind of like new right circles.

00:41:17.720 And I think it's actually really smart, which is a lot of boomers had the ego, which is that everything just automatically gets better because we're in America.

00:41:24.380 And it's almost Hegelian in some ways, actually, that kind of like arc of history, and eventually it's just going to keep getting better.

00:41:31.560 But, Jack, that's actually not a guarantee.

00:41:33.940 It's like thesis, power, antithesis, darkness.

00:41:37.760 And we mash it together, and the synthesis is South Africa, rolling blackouts, Maui, and trans kids.

00:41:45.700 So, Jack, there's so much, Saurabh makes the smartest point here, which I think I want to explore, which is it's actually really hard for some of our older listeners.

00:41:53.640 It's not hard, but I have to fight to kind of get this to be to a place of agreement.

00:41:59.660 And I think, Saurabh, you know what I'm going to say, which is people don't like to hear that the country is actually getting worse.

00:42:04.420 Jack Posobiec.

00:42:05.720 Well, so I'll bring up two things.

00:42:07.640 One is just to go back to what you said about water that I don't know if a lot of people have seen this.

00:42:12.680 I retweeted it earlier because Tulsi Gabbard is there.

00:42:16.160 Now, she represented Maui in Congress.

00:42:19.500 She was there for four terms, so eight years.

00:42:21.940 Maui was always, I don't know if it was redistricted, et cetera.

00:42:24.520 But basically, this was her area.

00:42:26.580 And she's actually on the ground.

00:42:28.760 She was interviewing a guy who was saying that when he first went to fight the fire, he said, well, the fire wasn't big.

00:42:36.300 And it had just gotten to my backyard, so I went to grab my hose, and I thought I'd put the hose on the fire if I were to go out.

00:42:43.300 Turned the hose on, hose didn't work.

00:42:45.620 I think, oh, my gosh, so what am I going to do?

00:42:47.120 Go inside, fill up a bucket.

00:42:48.800 Try to do that.

00:42:49.520 Now, that doesn't work.

00:42:50.840 Bathtub, et cetera, doesn't work.

00:42:52.020 So he says, okay, finally, I see a fire truck.

00:42:54.100 Fire truck goes to the fire hydrant.

00:42:55.880 We all see fire hydrants.

00:42:57.380 We all have them around.

00:42:58.420 We all just assume that that will work if there's a fire, right?

00:43:01.620 You know, this is basic stuff that, you know, going back to, you know, Charlie, you're from Chicago.

00:43:07.260 This has always been around, right?

00:43:09.620 You know, fires have always been around.

00:43:11.280 John Adams and the great fire of the colony, et cetera.

00:43:13.700 It did destroy the Chicagoland area, the entire Chicago.

00:43:17.560 Well, that's what I mean.

00:43:18.060 This isn't a new problem.

00:43:20.440 A phenomenon, yes.

00:43:21.720 It's a new phenomenon that we're trying to solve here.

00:43:25.580 The fire truck went to the fire hydrant.

00:43:27.640 No water pressure.

00:43:28.800 The water didn't come out.

00:43:29.920 Just imagine that happening in the United States in the current moment.

00:43:35.200 And so what I mean to say is that, yeah, you can believe in this sort of like, you know, full on, always upward trajectory of history.

00:43:44.580 This art history always bending towards moral justice, kind of like Obama and Mulcahy sort of thing.

00:43:51.120 This is German philosophic trash.

00:43:53.560 There's also a great theory out there, a great theory out there called the theory of the fourth turning.

00:43:59.920 And I have, and it's, it's, it's actually, I mean, you can go into older belief cycles that, that talk about this and people have laid it out in different ways.

00:44:12.120 But it's basically a secular view of history where basically societies, empires, civilizations have always been playing out in these, these cycles.

00:44:23.240 And yeah, technology gets better, et cetera.

00:44:24.920 But it's more so that just like we have the four seasons, essentially, that you will, times will not always be getting better, that there will come a cycle where things get worse.

00:44:36.460 And there comes a cycle where things are falling apart.

00:44:40.100 And typically, we've seen in the United States, these seem to happen in 80-year increments.

00:44:45.420 We're now going through the parallel of the Great Depression, and we're rapidly approaching the parallel of World War II, if you go back here.

00:44:53.740 This is very similar to Ecclesiastes 3, which is the final book written by King Solomon, where it actually, it's really, the first line of Ecclesiastes is King Solomon basically acting like he's a, like a teenager.

00:45:07.840 Life is meaningless.

00:45:09.160 Life is meaningless.

00:45:10.220 He gets to actually, it's a lot deeper than that.

00:45:12.500 But he, literally, the first line in Hebrew is meaningless, meaningless.

00:45:14.900 But you're right, Jack.

00:45:15.880 You ever, you ever heard the song, I think the Eagles, To Everything There's a Season?

00:45:19.040 Is that, is that, did they write that song?

00:45:21.240 To Everything There's a Season?

00:45:22.300 The birds.

00:45:22.860 Oh, is it the birds?

00:45:23.720 Okay.

00:45:24.140 Well, I'm not that far off.

00:45:25.380 Eagles, birds, that's the same.

00:45:27.100 They both fly.

00:45:27.580 One is a species.

00:45:29.380 Okay.

00:45:29.980 But it says, To Everything There is a Season and a Time and Purpose under heaven.

00:45:32.620 A Time to be born.

00:45:33.180 A Time to die.

00:45:33.580 A Time to plant.

00:45:34.060 A Time to pluck out that which is planted.

00:45:35.520 A Time to kill.

00:45:36.240 A Time to heal.

00:45:36.760 A Time to break down.

00:45:37.520 A Time to build up.

00:45:38.200 A Time to weep.

00:45:38.760 A Time to laugh.

00:45:39.260 A Time to mourn.

00:45:39.680 A Time to dance.

00:45:40.160 A Time to cast away stones.

00:45:41.760 A Time to gather stones together.

00:45:43.420 A Time to embrace.

00:45:44.060 A Time to refrain from embracing.

00:45:45.140 A Time to get.

00:45:45.620 A Time to lose.

00:45:46.120 A Time to cast away.

00:45:47.820 A Time to rend.

00:45:48.380 A Time to sow.

00:45:48.880 A Time to keep silence.

00:45:50.160 A Time to speak.

00:45:50.820 A Time to love.

00:45:51.300 A Time to hate.

00:45:51.780 A Time of war.

00:45:52.340 A Time of peace.

00:45:53.680 Nothing quite like Ecclesiastes.

00:45:55.920 Remember what they took from us.

00:45:57.420 This was when our country was a respectable country.

00:46:00.060 Play Cut 107.

00:46:00.900 A Time to break down.

00:46:30.900 As a proud sponsor of Little League Baseball, Pizza Hut welcomes all the kids who make it

00:46:58.700 great.

00:46:59.400 Making it great.

00:47:01.400 So, just the music to the joyful storytelling, you contrast that with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:47:09.320 I just...

00:47:10.320 I mean, that's what first comes...

00:47:11.420 Has Pizza Hut given him a deal yet?

00:47:12.580 No, but you get the point, right?

00:47:13.800 I mean, Dylan Mulvaney, who obviously needs to be on very heavy psychiatric medication and

00:47:18.420 out of all public life, right?

00:47:19.940 Who is like promoting ads and is a sick puppy versus this beautiful anthem.

00:47:24.700 Let's just...

00:47:26.700 Just another piece here.

00:47:28.580 Let's just play Cut 109.

00:47:30.160 I miss the country I grew up in.

00:47:31.880 I miss this country.

00:47:33.220 It was a de-radicalized country.

00:47:34.900 Used to talk about family, neighbors, sports.

00:47:38.120 I didn't care if my neighbors were Democrats.

00:47:39.800 I have a funny story about that in a second.

00:47:41.180 Play Cut 108.

00:47:41.760 Oh, Jerome, a birthday party at Pizza Hut.

00:47:48.060 What fun.

00:47:49.000 You bet, Mom.

00:47:51.060 Okay, sweetie.

00:47:52.820 Have a good time.

00:47:54.140 Cheer well.

00:47:54.860 You look so cute.

00:47:57.460 Remember to say hello to Mrs. Miller.

00:47:59.560 Hello.

00:48:00.300 And don't forget everything I told you.

00:48:02.340 Okay.

00:48:03.280 Have fun.

00:48:05.500 Hello, Jerome.

00:48:06.900 Hi, Mrs. Miller.

00:48:07.880 Wish Jessica a happy birthday.

00:48:09.680 Hi, Mrs. Miller.

00:48:10.680 Hi, Mrs. Miller.

00:48:10.820 And remember, polite little boys always use their napkins.

00:48:24.560 We're gonna party, party right now.

00:48:27.800 Well, how do we choose?

00:48:29.220 With our mouths closed.

00:48:31.920 We're gonna party, party right now.

00:48:32.940 Don't forget to share.

00:48:34.920 Share, share.

00:48:36.500 Use your silverware.

00:48:38.220 And, sweetie, I don't care what the other little boys do.

00:48:43.720 You keep your apples off the table.

00:48:46.280 And, Jerome, please.

00:48:48.000 Goodbye, Jerome.

00:48:49.600 Be nice to the little girls.

00:48:51.960 Honey, did you have a good time?

00:48:54.480 I did everything you said.

00:48:56.040 I was even nice to a girl.

00:48:58.300 Oh, my little angel.

00:49:00.960 Yeah.

00:49:01.420 Yeah.

00:49:01.580 Okay, I have three reactions.

00:49:07.480 First of all, if there were that many white kids in a commercial, you'd be thrown in a gulag, like, immediately.

00:49:12.260 If that aired into the audience.

00:49:13.160 The suffocating whiteness of the Pizza Hut commercial.

00:49:15.000 Number two, do you notice that the kind of subtext is order, manners, right?

00:49:21.180 There are rules for life.

00:49:23.180 Exactly.

00:49:23.580 That's white supremacist.

00:49:25.000 Bow ties, suspenders.

00:49:25.500 Keep your elbows off the table.

00:49:27.100 Number three, there's no gay anything.

00:49:28.940 The girl and the boy have this kind of romantic tension.

00:49:32.600 That is a beautiful advertisement.

00:49:35.540 Jack, you're kind of into this abstract internet culture stuff.

00:49:39.820 You spend way too much time on your phone.

00:49:41.300 So, yeah, go ahead.

00:49:43.000 Pizza Hut nationalism is something that I've talked about a lot.

00:49:46.760 I did a whole podcast with Lou Dobbs talking about Pizza Hut nationalism.

00:49:51.940 Tim Pool and I talk about opening up, finding one of those abandoned pizza shops.

00:49:57.300 They're getting a bunch of them across the country.

00:50:00.040 And we're going to call it Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.

00:50:02.240 And it's so much more than just sitting down and having a meal, right?

00:50:10.140 It's about the feeling that you get when you watch these videos.

00:50:13.900 And I just got to say, there are times where I watch these videos and I get happy because

00:50:21.380 I remember how amazing America was.

00:50:22.980 But honestly, there's times where I get mad because I look at these things and I become

00:50:28.120 furious about the fact that my kids, my two little boys are growing up in a country where

00:50:35.240 they can't just find this at the corner where, like when I was growing up in the Philadelphia

00:50:40.960 area, you could go right down to the corner and you'd see all your friends there.

00:50:45.140 All your buddies from school would be there.

00:50:47.100 You could go play baseball.

00:50:48.420 And it was all within walking distance.

00:50:50.780 You could just go right in.

00:50:52.360 And it was about a meeting place.

00:50:54.920 And so, no, it's not about pizza.

00:50:56.480 It's not even necessarily about Pizza Hut.

00:50:57.800 But Pizza Hut understood that by tapping into that ether, that tapping into that energy,

00:51:06.580 that vibe of America in the 1990s.

00:51:09.360 By the way, these were the pizza commercials that used to play before the Nintendo, not Nintendo,

00:51:15.020 Nickelodeon VHS movies.

00:51:16.840 So, like, I think one was like New Turtles, one was like Land Before Time, even though

00:51:22.620 that was Nickelodeon, I think it was Dan Bluth or whatever, that this and at the same

00:51:28.620 time, Netflix, right, Netflix right now, right, the movie on Netflix right now that they're

00:51:32.780 all pushing for kids is like the two gay nights and they're transgender fluid, whatever.

00:51:39.420 And it's like big, bold, you know, I didn't believe it.

00:51:42.300 So, you know, somebody showed me on their Netflix account.

00:51:44.280 I did not believe, I have no idea what it's called.

00:51:48.480 And it's just two gay nights.

00:51:50.740 And this is set up for kids.

00:51:52.560 It was actually, Slate Magazine actually called it two gay for Disney.

00:51:54.120 We've got it on the screen here.

00:51:55.180 Bring it up.

00:51:56.540 Two gay for Disney.

00:51:58.280 The more, the older I get, the simpler the explanations I find for this.

00:52:03.440 The left is largely just weaponized mental illness on the rest of the country.

00:52:06.800 Is that unfair, Sir Rob?

00:52:08.180 No, not at all.

00:52:08.860 And the thing that I kept on thinking as I was watching that commercial is that back

00:52:13.100 then, Pizza Hut was a place that you went to with your family and your children and all

00:52:19.280 the other people from your neighborhood.

00:52:21.420 Now, the Pizza Hut advertisement you're likely to see, putting aside the ideological content

00:52:26.240 is order this extra, extra large pizza that's 1,800 to 3,000 calories that you're going to

00:52:32.780 shove in your face or shove a couple in your face while you're at home, you know, doing

00:52:36.400 your Zoom date because you have to put on the mask and sit inside because of COVID or whatever

00:52:41.780 the other excuse they're going to come up with for shutting everyone inside.

00:52:44.840 Yeah, and also just the aesthetic of new Pizza Hut is really corporate and utilitarian, right?

00:52:50.080 A friend of mine was just there the last week and he said, like, I went there with my wife because

00:52:53.600 I, you know, I remember going when I was a kid in the 80s and he was like, it crushed me to see it.

00:52:59.140 He says it was literally like going to eat at like a cubicle office.

00:53:04.040 Man.

00:53:05.240 There's one near us now and I went in.

00:53:09.160 So I had a tweet thread about this that went pretty viral.

00:53:11.540 I don't know, maybe like eight months ago or so that really kicked off this whole Pizza Hut

00:53:15.100 nationalism thing because I went to one that still actually was in one of the original,

00:53:19.840 like, it's not the corporate one that you're talking about, Blake.

00:53:21.740 It was one of the older ones that, you know, had the regular Pizza Hut design, you know,

00:53:28.500 that sort of like hut, I don't know what you call it, the roof.

00:53:31.360 My brother's the architect, not me.

00:53:33.200 And we went in and it was after COVID and yet the floors were filthy.

00:53:39.600 Um, it was, half the place was filled with like unmade pizza boxes.

00:53:45.660 Um, there were a bunch of like DoorDash drivers and, and, um, Uber Eats people just like waiting,

00:53:50.900 you know, the gig, gig slaves waiting for like to pick up their, their order for it to be,

00:53:56.020 um, you know, to get ready.

00:53:57.660 And then I sat down and I said, oh, I want to order a couple of wings and a personal pizza

00:54:01.880 from our, from my son here.

00:54:03.440 Do you guys, you guys still do book it?

00:54:05.580 And, and the guy's just looking at me with like bug eyes, like there's no clue what I'm

00:54:09.720 talking about or why I would even deem to like set foot in the store all because I'm

00:54:16.000 thinking, Hey, it's a pizza hut.

00:54:17.040 I can go take my kid.

00:54:17.920 I remember, I remember it from when I was, I was younger and it took off like wildfire

00:54:23.560 on the internet.

00:54:25.120 Um, no pun intended, but that it, it, so many people saying this was absolutely something

00:54:31.660 that we all shared, that we all loved and is, um, I think equitously taken from, from

00:54:39.320 no matter where you are in the country, this has all been taken.

00:54:41.820 And it's this whole idea.

00:54:42.760 And Saurabh, you were hitting it a little bit too, this idea of third spaces, that third

00:54:46.440 spaces don't exist.

00:54:47.260 A few things I want to hit before we move on is one, a funny thing with the second ad

00:54:54.320 is it's actually a nostalgic ad itself.

00:54:56.460 Like kids did not wear bow ties in the 1980s.

00:54:59.460 He's actually basically looking like he's from leave it to beaver.

00:55:01.800 Yeah.

00:55:02.260 So it's nineties nostalgia for fifties sitcoms.

00:55:05.740 That's right.

00:55:06.260 And so 70 year reversion.

00:55:08.040 Even they had a sense like, Oh, we've, we've fallen.

00:55:10.520 It's over.

00:55:11.200 It's, you know, and also, you know, we can focus on like the pizza community aspect, but

00:55:15.700 like who actually does a little league anymore?

00:55:18.760 Like little league teams.

00:55:19.940 Now, even sports kind of are terrible that you have to pay now.

00:55:23.980 I totally agree.

00:55:24.780 Childhood sports.

00:55:25.680 They do.

00:55:26.220 They do.

00:55:27.440 They do.

00:55:27.680 But the essence of childhood sports.

00:55:29.720 Blake's about to make a really deep point.

00:55:30.960 I'll piggyback it.

00:55:31.780 The essence of childhood sports now is instead of, you know, pay $300.

00:55:35.900 So your kids in a league with other kids in his neighborhood with local friends.

00:55:39.540 Now it's like, you'll pay $4,000 to be on a travel team.

00:55:42.660 This is the point.

00:55:43.300 The travel team to train, get a college scholarship, maybe long shot, you can go pro.

00:55:48.520 And that's what everything is towards.

00:55:49.860 It is the professionalization of youth sports has destroyed social bonds.

00:55:54.200 I mean, I was at the kind of beginning edge of this.

00:55:56.680 I'm not that great of a basketball player, but I'm tall and, you know, I love the, I love

00:56:00.340 the sport.

00:56:01.000 So I was, AAU was just coming onto the scene.

00:56:03.240 I don't know if you're familiar with it.

00:56:04.560 AAU basketball has destroyed the sport, right?

00:56:07.340 And the kind of AAUification of sports has gone everywhere in baseball and softball.

00:56:13.020 So you'll have, I mean, I know someone really well here and they're like, yeah, you know,

00:56:17.140 my nine-year-old is on a travel team and we're going to Vegas and we're going to LA.

00:56:21.260 I'm like, well, who's on his team?

00:56:22.140 They're like, well, someone from Wickenburg and someone from Chandler and Scottsdale.

00:56:25.680 I'm like, that's not, that's not what local sports is about.

00:56:28.960 Usually it's just like, oh, there's Johnny and, you know, a person on the street.

00:56:31.420 It's actually about none of us are going to go play for the Oakland A's.

00:56:35.680 We know that, but it's actually about character development and local bonds are up.

00:56:39.600 Well, and let's think through why that happens.

00:56:42.400 On the upper end of the income spectrum, it's happening because status anxious people want

00:56:47.480 to make sure that their kids preserve or increase the level of status they have in society.

00:56:51.660 And so, you know, if the kid isn't necessarily going to cut it to get into Dartmouth or Harvard

00:56:56.320 or something, well, the second they exhibit any aptitude in baseball, they're going to spend

00:57:00.200 the ages of three to 23 playing as much baseball as humanly possible to the point that they hate

00:57:05.040 it. And if you're lower middle class or working class, it feels like the only ticket into the

00:57:10.160 middle class or any prosperity for your kids, because it's not like we have a thriving blue

00:57:14.340 collar economy for people who don't want to go to college. That's the only way out of poverty

00:57:19.600 for so many people. So it's ruined what childhood is. Kids are expected to perform at the level of

00:57:25.480 adults starting at very, very young ages. You don't get a childhood anymore unless you have

00:57:30.160 parents that are trying to very intentionally give you a very different kind of life, usually

00:57:35.120 through homeschooling or in some cases, some of these classical schools.

00:57:38.680 So, Saurabh, you set a frame which is class anxious, status anxious.

00:57:42.680 Yeah.

00:57:42.940 Well, what is this?

00:57:44.000 Well, it's basically the reason why every single, you know, two income upper middle class

00:57:50.160 family is utterly insane because they're mortally terrified at the thought of their children

00:57:57.060 being perceived as lower on the status hierarchy as they are. It's why people will dump tens of

00:58:03.180 thousands of dollars into test prep or college prep. I went to high school in one of these suburbs in

00:58:09.020 the Dallas area where basically every family that thought this way was expected to spend tens of

00:58:14.940 thousands of dollars to maximize the kind of school that their kids could get into because,

00:58:19.260 God forbid, your son turned out to be an HVAC repairman and make more money than you probably

00:58:23.600 with less debt.

00:58:24.620 I'm a class trader from where I come from, the suburbs of Chicago. I mean, it's all worked out,

00:58:29.340 but originally when I said I wasn't going to college, it would have been easier to say I was a meth addict.

00:58:34.640 Yeah. And that's unfortunately the situation that so many parents find themselves in is that the

00:58:39.100 cultural milieu that they're in, their fellow peers, their parents, and in some cases,

00:58:43.320 even their family members will tell them that you have failed as a parent if your kid doesn't,

00:58:48.820 you know, spend quarter million dollars to go to the private school in the state that isn't even

00:58:56.060 really churning out people who can support themselves on their income because, again,

00:59:01.480 God forbid if they become an electrician or an HVAC salesman or something like that.

00:59:04.760 It's not just that. I mean, it is, to circle all the way back to, you know, the decay of,

00:59:09.260 you know, basic things. It is, it's not just loss of status, but I think a lot of people do

00:59:14.720 cosmically grasp that you need to move heaven and earth to essentially marry, have two to three kids,

00:59:21.540 and have them grow up in the same general environment that you could just kind of automatically

00:59:26.340 grow up in, in a 1980s suburb. Now that 1980s suburb costs, you know, the housing costs are three

00:59:31.940 times what they were. Every single activity costs way more. You now need to save from birth to pay for a

00:59:38.120 college if they want to go to college. And even the sports teams are now several thousand dollars

00:59:43.680 a year. So it's, you spend three times as much to get a sort of creepy, uncanny valley facsimile of

00:59:51.160 the life that they once had in the 1980s. And I think the desire to imitate this is what really

00:59:56.300 is driving a ton of people insane. Yeah. I mean, I've, I've lived it. I, I'm not a card carrying member

01:00:04.180 of the ruling class because I didn't go to college, which in some ways I think actually is the, you

01:00:08.840 really want to stand out. You really, it's not a Harvard or a Dartmouth degree. It's don't go to

01:00:13.080 college, but, but Jack it's. Oliver Anthony didn't even finish high school. Oh yeah. The redheaded,

01:00:19.140 the red beard guy. So tell us about that, Jack. Well, no, just, he posted something earlier today

01:00:26.340 about basically telling his life story and, you know, people had been trying to dox him and say,

01:00:31.600 Hey, your name's not really Oliver. Your name's Christopher. What's up with that? Et cetera,

01:00:36.000 et cetera. Who are you? Where are you coming from? It's, it's the internet, right? So we,

01:00:40.420 we must demand all of the information possible about someone. What are you watching? You know,

01:00:44.960 they were like, why is he watching a very naughty Patrick, but David interviews on YouTube and things

01:00:51.380 like this. I think he actually had such a chirp video. He made, he tweeted about it. Wow. You know,

01:00:56.140 how come nobody checked out the chirp video I was watching, you know, like his YouTube playlist or

01:01:00.260 whatever. And, uh, he pointed out that, you know, so the guy's got number one song in the country,

01:01:04.900 definitely hit a vein that, um, you know, I, I think kind of like, we're talking about this sort

01:01:10.500 of energy that that's been out there, this emotion that basically, I think this air, this is really

01:01:16.160 doesn't go through, doesn't go to college. Doesn't basically said that he dropped out of high school

01:01:21.520 when he was 17, got a GED. He's basically been working blue collar ever since then. I think he's 30,

01:01:27.580 31 now. So, you know, do the math almost 15 years. And, uh, he just basically poured that

01:01:33.740 into some, some music playing out his backyard. So, I mean, we're going to play the song in a

01:01:38.140 second. I'll be honest. Song's not really for me, but I, I, I, I don't go out of my way to try to

01:01:43.700 make somebody unsuccessful. This is a really effed up thing happening in our country. And you see it,

01:01:52.220 Saurabh, if you have any level of virality or success, it's, we must crush you. We must dox you.

01:02:00.440 We must destroy you. It's really sick. And as someone who experiences it every day, I could just

01:02:06.020 like say, screw you. You know, it's been 11 years of that, but it's, it's a, it's a real thing,

01:02:11.140 isn't it, Jack? Where it's like you have any, any micron of breakthrough and the incentive

01:02:19.220 structure is how quickly can we crush you, Jack? Well, look what they did to the plane lady where,

01:02:26.520 um, not even making a political point, not even, uh, I think trying to go viral. And they basically,

01:02:36.300 they doctor, they ran a, in China, they call these a human flesh mob against her. Just this,

01:02:42.000 this huge volley of the horde of people online trying to track her down. I think 4chan had her

01:02:48.200 name within like 30 seconds or something. It was a, you know, pretty, pretty much the average for

01:02:52.420 those guys. And, um, autism strikes again. Exactly. The autism will save us, Saurabh.

01:02:58.800 And, um, they literally called in a drone strike on ISIS once in Syria. Um, and the, the,

01:03:07.060 the point is though, is that people were trying to say, okay, well, is she, you know,

01:03:10.420 is she tied to the government? Is she tied to what she tied to? What is she part of? And she's like,

01:03:14.740 she's clearly just some lady on a plane. And now she's stuck in the middle of this viral clip.

01:03:19.960 And that actually is part of the problem with the incentive structure, Charlie, that you're

01:03:23.900 talking about where the United States now, I would argue that we've, you know, obviously we're far

01:03:28.800 beyond the constitution and laws. We're actually now ruled by viral videos and the characters who

01:03:35.400 animate those viral videos. And so in order to try to defeat one of those viral videos,

01:03:41.720 you must then either impugn the character of that person. You must find out if they're lying.

01:03:47.300 You have to find out if it's been taken out of context or you let the viral video win and you

01:03:52.580 just go with it. We are now, United States government is now viral. Here's what it is.

01:03:56.820 It's a bunch of resentful, jealous people that have miserable lives that want to see other people

01:04:01.840 be destroyed. And that is the, that is largely the left. So the final time, this will probably be the

01:04:06.860 final time. Oh no, we have deep web reveal because we have to go to Ron polling. We have to, we have two

01:04:11.000 things left. Whoa, whoa, don't get away. Don't get away. Okay. Okay. I want, I want, I want. So

01:04:15.380 Andrew comes into the chat and usually these kinds of messages are like, Hey guys, you know,

01:04:22.580 just letting you know, these are some potential advertisers. And usually it's like thumbs up.

01:04:27.560 Sounds great. Everything's terrific, whatever. And so then Andrew, and again, probably a really great

01:04:32.520 company, sweet people that run it, but I was the one that led the charge and Andrew was like, Hey,

01:04:37.460 here's one of them. And it's, it was an alcohol company, right? Again, nice website, sweet people

01:04:41.520 value line. And I was like, yeah, I don't feel comfortable promoting alcohol. That's not going

01:04:44.940 to happen. And so then it kind of 400 messages later, we are now at the place of, which is a

01:04:51.340 thought crime, which is actually prohibition worked and was probably a good idea. And it's

01:04:56.020 been whitewashed by the distillery companies. Blake Neff. It's kind of weirdly true. Like if you look,

01:05:01.700 if you go back, it's true. If you go back to, you know, what, you know, why were people deciding

01:05:05.960 to ban? That's the most important question. And you look at it and it's like, if you took

01:05:09.820 fentanyl and every other drug in America, all the problems caused by it, like it was all kind of

01:05:16.660 condensed into one single source. So, you know, these days we have fatherless homes because of crime and

01:05:22.440 because of drugs and because just people, you know, value decay back then, almost all of this was

01:05:28.820 related to alcohol. So you would have broken homes because the dad just went and drank himself all

01:05:33.380 the time. This is what caused domestic violence. Dad drinks, hits his wife, hits his kids. And it was

01:05:38.680 just causing tons of crime, tons of violence. And the truth, which is not often honestly remarked

01:05:45.440 upon is, you know, once we passed prohibition, we did get rid of it 15 years later, but it actually

01:05:50.420 worked. Like all the problems related to alcohol have never risen back to where they were before

01:05:56.500 they did prohibition. And whether that means you'd want to ban it today, I'm not going to

01:06:02.220 assert that, but it is, it is interesting to think about. Well, and this is what's the most

01:06:08.160 important question because the people use prohibition as like a smart guy argument. Like, oh, you want to

01:06:13.740 keep weed illegal? What about prohibition? Like, calm down, Patsy. Okay. Let's, let's actually ask the

01:06:20.000 question how bad it must've been to want to pass a constitutional amendment. There was probably a

01:06:27.060 good reason for that, right? Blake, it's, this was a country at the time that was not, you know, blitzing

01:06:33.580 into constitutional amendments. So something was going on where they were saying, wait a second,

01:06:39.060 we need a constitutional amendment. And so there, what was, it was actually led by women. Most people

01:06:46.400 don't know that by moms and wives that were outraged at their drunk, good for nothing,

01:06:53.460 alcoholic husbands and fathers that were seeing a massive moral problem. By the way, there's some

01:07:02.320 amazing thought crime books on prohibition. You have one of them, right? Blake, it was what I read.

01:07:07.980 The one, the one I read, there was one called the alcoholic Republic, and it's not so much about

01:07:13.280 prohibition, but it's about how much alcohol America drank before prohibition. And it just,

01:07:17.760 it makes your eyes water. It was something like the average American was drinking just

01:07:21.440 gallons and gallons of alcohol. Yeah. And if, if I were to be honest, Jack,

01:07:25.080 I think that the conservative movement has an alcohol problem. Am I right, Jack Posobiec?

01:07:31.100 Well, I, I'll, I'll just say this from personal, um, my personal standpoint. So I'm 17 years sober.

01:07:38.920 Uh, I will hit 18 years at the end of next month. Um, I don't think alcohol is something

01:07:46.620 that provides, uh, it makes people productive. I don't think it's something that, uh, people derive

01:07:53.300 value from. I think it's some, it's also something where if anything, it, it, it just sort of degrades

01:08:00.520 our culture in general because it gets us to a place where we, we push alcoholism so much in this

01:08:07.120 country. And it's a huge problem, by the way, in Eastern Europe, some of the other former Soviet

01:08:10.400 countries, um, where, but even in the United States, where we don't have the economic issues

01:08:15.900 that those areas do, uh, we have this whole pervasive belief system where, you know, if

01:08:20.860 you're going to go out, you've got to be drinking. You can't enjoy that, uh, uh, you know, sporting

01:08:26.340 engagement. If you're going to watch baseball, football, whatever, you got to have a drink in your

01:08:29.440 hand. You can't go out and meet somebody. If you're not drinking, where do you go to meet people?

01:08:32.960 You go to the bar. Um, where do you, you know, if you're going to have a party, well, you're not,

01:08:36.940 you're not really partying if you're not drinking and keep in mind, this is someone I went through

01:08:41.280 eight years in the Navy without having a drink. So, you know, we pull into work somewhere. Oh,

01:08:46.160 where's everybody going? Let's go get wasted. Let's go get wasted. That's you're not going out

01:08:49.400 to have fun. You are, you're going out for the purpose of getting wasted. Not only that, Carly,

01:08:54.080 but if you look at the, the gender difference between who's doing more binge drinking these days,

01:08:59.980 women have actually, and we talk about the wage gap, they've actually closed the binge drinking

01:09:04.900 gap when it comes to, uh, when it comes to men. And so, look, I, I see this in the conservative

01:09:09.880 movement, just like anybody else, you know, and, and, you know, you could say as, you know,

01:09:14.820 in, in Christianity, we have praise, um, you know, be in the world, not of the world. And I would

01:09:19.060 hope that for conservatives, look, I'm not going to say you have to be a full on teetotaler or something.

01:09:24.200 I'm, I'm not, I got, I wouldn't say that I'm currently, you know, for prohibition, but I do

01:09:28.880 think that we should actually talk about it honestly. And we should talk about the fact that

01:09:33.680 it was actually good. It benefited the country. Like the results of it were positive, positive.

01:09:39.580 Well, first of all, yeah. I mean, women are closing the alcohol gap. They're also mixing

01:09:42.880 with benzos and Xanax. And so we have to be honest about that. But Rob, does the right have a drinking

01:09:48.060 problem? Yeah. I'm not going to beat around the bush like Jack did. Yes. 100,000%. I live in

01:09:53.440 Washington, DC, where functional alcoholism is present in probably over half of congressional

01:10:00.540 staff. So the people advising your bosses, uh, or your, your, your representatives in Congress

01:10:06.700 on, on how to vote on legislation. And frequently those representatives themselves are drunk as

01:10:13.200 can be while they're making those choices. Um, so at a, at a sort of interpersonal level,

01:10:18.380 um, I grew up watching people get trashed at every conservative conference there was. And I started

01:10:25.260 in politics pretty young and I sort of created a rule for myself that I wasn't going to, uh, drink at

01:10:29.780 these public events until I was 21, uh, if at all. Um, and, uh, and then even after that, I've, I've tried

01:10:36.000 to keep pretty temperate myself and you just see that people, uh, end up destroying their lives,

01:10:41.320 drinking like crazy when they were young. And this is a civilizational problem as well. Um, you know,

01:10:46.500 there's a very interesting line of thought that, um, it is the overall decrease in alcohol consumption

01:10:52.460 over the last few centuries that caused most of the technological and civilizational progress

01:10:56.920 that we saw. The idea behind this being that, um, before we had really good water treatment

01:11:02.640 technology, the only potable, uh, water that you could carry wasn't water exactly. It was water

01:11:09.080 with a little bit of extra stuff, i.e. beer and wine. And so people were rocking a day buzz basically

01:11:13.380 all day, every day for millennia, basically. And as, uh, water technology got better, we started

01:11:20.820 seeing, uh, people actually drink less and that's where you got a lot of technological progress.

01:11:26.020 Right around the same time, you saw the proliferation of coffee and there's people who make the argument

01:11:30.340 that the transition from, uh, you know, alcohol, which is a depressant to coffee, which is a stimulant

01:11:35.720 caused the enlightenment. And yes, there's some problems with the enlightenment, but in terms of

01:11:39.520 the technological progress that makes human flourishing possible, it was certainly great.

01:11:43.600 So, um, again, I don't necessarily want to see prohibition today. I think most people who drink

01:11:49.000 a lot should drink significantly less. And the statistics are pretty clear that if you drink at

01:11:53.820 all, most of the people who drink at all drink way too much. And, um, I certainly have no patience

01:12:00.100 for the argument. Again, what you said, the smart guy argument, which is that, oh, teehee, we,

01:12:04.660 we had prohibition that didn't work out. That means you have to allow heroin to suffuse your streets

01:12:09.700 because that's the enlightened thing to do. Absolutely not. Um, drug wars work, prohibition

01:12:15.180 worked, uh, turns out if the government says you can't do something and actually tries even a little

01:12:19.660 bit to enforce it, rates of that thing happening fall off a cliff. It's called basic law and order.

01:12:24.420 Yeah. And so, so Blake, should we bring back prohibition?

01:12:27.500 I don't know if we should, but I do, I do like the point about heroin there at the end,

01:12:31.740 which is just, uh, I think Ross Douthat of the New York times, uh, had an article.

01:12:36.140 Oh, this must've been a decade ago by now. I'm old. Uh, he made a great point, which is,

01:12:41.560 you know, alcohol is bad. If we were to pick, you know, if we had, if we were setting our society

01:12:46.340 from a blank slate and we were like, what should we legalize? Even if we were picking among the

01:12:50.520 drugs that exist, we probably wouldn't pick alcohol as the one to have exist because it's

01:12:54.420 addictive, it's harmful, has all these big problems. And, but it is, you know, it's been around a long

01:13:00.620 time, has a lot of cultural legacy. It would be difficult to completely stamp it out, but you

01:13:05.360 can have this understanding of recognizing how harmful it is. Maybe it's the only one we should

01:13:10.720 have be legal and everything else we should just keep banned and not let it get normalized. Because

01:13:15.040 what is really making alcohol worse these days, as he pointed out, is not just that people drink a

01:13:21.020 lot, but it's that now you're, now you're crushing your prescription drugs into your, into your

01:13:25.340 alcoholic drink. That's what I'm saying.

01:13:26.720 It's the combination of pharmacological agents. You have another point to make.

01:13:30.560 No one's on one, no one's on one drug. Everyone who's on any drugs is on like 10 of them and

01:13:35.060 they just go totally loopy. Now the argument in favor of prohibition, I would say, is, as

01:13:41.960 he pointed out, anyone who does drink, drinks too much. It is an industry that it's kind of

01:13:46.000 like, it's kind of like gambling, I would say. It is fundamentally dependent on the addict to

01:13:51.060 make it as an industry. That something like 15% of drinkers do 80% of the drinking, the old

01:13:57.680 Pareto principle. And within, you know, that 15%, it's like five, you know, this 5% of people who

01:14:04.300 are alcoholics and 1% who are just drinking themselves to death. And the amount, the amount

01:14:09.960 of alcohol that those people drink is like truly staggering and kind of horrifying because it does

01:14:16.180 kill you over time. The industry calls those people whales. Whales. Really gross stuff. It's

01:14:21.240 a lot like other, a lot of industries are like this, like mobile games. Mobile games are all

01:14:25.160 designed to be addictive so that you can hook a tiny handful of people who will blow thousands

01:14:30.440 of dollars on this. Casinos are designed to rope in people who blow their entire Medicare or their

01:14:35.520 entire social security check every single month on the slot machines. And I think it's valid

01:14:40.220 to ask, is it really licit for us to sanction industries whose entire existence is dependent

01:14:47.160 on people who are addicted to it?

01:14:49.200 Yeah. And so look, I mean, first of all, prohibition will never get, will happen in our

01:14:53.160 lifetime. And I'm not even saying it's a good thing or a bad thing. I think it's interesting.

01:14:56.480 And I mean, that's where I also push back where someone's like, what are you going to ban

01:14:59.660 alcohol? I'm like, well, interesting. If you're going to start from base zero to your point,

01:15:03.880 you have 2,500 alcohol poisoned deaths a year. You have tens of thousands of auto-related

01:15:12.200 fatalities, serious injuries, or deaths every single year. You have kidney issues. You have

01:15:16.660 obesity issues. Not to mention, ask any cop, and the data supports this, anything, any crime

01:15:23.040 after 10 p.m., 80% of them have drugs or alcohol involved. Like 80%, right? Domestic abuse, gang

01:15:28.680 fights, murders, rape, all that sort of stuff. And so you combine all that together and you

01:15:35.480 say, is this, does the substance increase the virtue of the society? And the answer is,

01:15:42.120 of course not. Now you could do it in moderation. And look, the Bible does not explicitly say

01:15:46.160 you shouldn't drink, but there are repeated warnings against drunkenness and the wine that

01:15:51.600 Jesus, that in Jesus' time was way more watered down than the wine in our time. There's all sorts

01:15:56.300 of things. But is it virtuous, Saurabh? No. And ultimately, civilization, and specifically

01:16:03.920 Republican government, requires citizens that are capable of reasoning. And this drug, like any

01:16:10.840 other drug, heavily erodes people's ability to reason. Just to put some numbers on the consumption,

01:16:16.200 in the United States, if you are any of the six first deciles of alcohol consumption, that is to say,

01:16:23.220 the bottom 60% of the population, you functionally don't drink at all. Less than one drink per week.

01:16:28.660 The seventh decile, you get to 2.17 drinks per week. The eighth decile, you get to 6.25 drinks

01:16:34.180 a week. So, you know, one glass of wine at night. Let's bring that chart up on the computer screen

01:16:38.360 here. I've got it here. And then the ninth decile, you're at 15.28 drinks a week. That is to say,

01:16:44.300 two, maybe three drinks every night of the week. And then the top decile is 73.85. So 10% of Americans

01:16:51.140 consume an average of 73.85 drinks a week. And imagine what our society would look like,

01:16:58.620 how it might look different if that weren't happening. And that's 73 across the top 10%.

01:17:03.620 So now imagine the top five, the top one, like top 1%. You're telling me that's people who just

01:17:09.060 only drink. Yeah. 30 million people.

01:17:14.100 are drinking almost 75 drinks a week. And 90% of them run our politics, our government,

01:17:19.520 and our finance. Jack, you know what the thought you want to make?

01:17:21.580 Yeah. Well, not all of them.

01:17:22.660 Yeah, no. Just a lot. Yeah. High percentage. Look, I'll just throw this out there because I

01:17:27.800 always do. Sobriety works. If anybody out there is considering it, if you're thinking about it,

01:17:36.700 if you're anywhere near, I don't care if you've tried it before and it hasn't worked, feel free

01:17:40.740 to reach out. I always make myself available for anybody once. Yeah. And look, I'm not trying to

01:17:46.980 be like overly moralizing here. It's not as if I've never had a drink. I've spent a long time since

01:17:51.240 I have. But seeing a couple of things. The people that are undisciplined with alcohol live in perpetual

01:17:59.980 suffering. The people that are undisciplined with alcohol, they go from rolling scandal to rolling

01:18:06.480 issue. And if someone says they're disciplined with alcohol, I've seen it very rarely, very rarely.

01:18:15.200 It's almost always abused because it happens like that. It happens very quickly. A man who drinks

01:18:20.660 forgets the law, as it says in Proverbs. Sobri. Well, my bias on this is particularly funny because

01:18:25.340 anyone who knows me or even follows me on social media will see that I'm really into craft cocktails.

01:18:29.900 Like, I love making nice cocktails for my friends. And I think that, like anything, if you enjoy it,

01:18:39.360 sustain your ability to enjoy it in the long term by making sure you put an extraordinary premium on

01:18:44.020 moderation. And I'll say it to the young conservatives that listen to you, Charlie, that listen to you,

01:18:48.720 Jack, that listen to you, Blake. Like, be willing to speak into your friends' lives about this

01:18:53.680 because there is so much social pressure to just drink yourself into a stupor every night of your

01:19:00.100 20s. And I'll chill out when I'm in my 30s. God knows how much we're frying people's brains doing

01:19:04.920 that.

01:19:05.140 Well, it does poison your brain, 100%. It's proven.

01:19:07.760 And so I would just encourage people that, look, if you want alcohol to be a small, moderate part of

01:19:14.200 your life, that doesn't start when you turn 35. It starts the day you have your first drink.

01:19:19.640 It's a depressant. And I'll say this, Jack, you and I would agree. It's also a competitive edge.

01:19:25.200 You don't drink. You get up earlier. You have no hangovers. You're able to allow them for more

01:19:30.100 calories. And every single person that I see that has stopped drinking, their career explodes.

01:19:36.020 Tucker Carlson, right? You, Jack. I mean, I see it across the board. I'm not trying to moralize.

01:19:41.960 I'm not trying to judge people. But yeah, go ahead.

01:19:44.420 I've had people within the movement. And this is maybe why I didn't come down so forcefully

01:19:49.420 when you asked me the question originally, because I'm not going to say these names publicly,

01:19:53.500 but I have had people that we all know who are huge names in the movement just in the last 12

01:19:59.760 months reach out to me person after person after person saying, hey, man, I just want to let you

01:20:04.660 know I haven't had a drink in five months. Hey, man, I just want to let you know I haven't had a drink

01:20:08.480 in whatever period of time it's been. I feel great. It feels good. It's not like an anti-alcohol

01:20:15.840 thing. I think it's just more like people are paying attention to their health more.

01:20:19.540 They're listening to Huberman more, trying to know your big Huberman guy.

01:20:22.000 I love Huberman. It's amazing.

01:20:23.380 That, you know, they're thinking about the alcohol's effect on your brain. And by the way,

01:20:26.580 his episode on alcohol, if you just want to learn the neuroscience behind that, it ain't pretty.

01:20:32.760 It ain't pretty.

01:20:33.560 The distillery industry would not be happy with Huberman's truth there. Just do your research,

01:20:38.880 everybody. And by the way, if you're dealing with depression and anxiety, alcohol does not help.

01:20:43.380 It is a depressant. It is neurologically proven to increase depression, increase suicidal ideation.

01:20:52.060 Okay, let's get to the final topic of the night, which is one of my favorite stories.

01:20:57.960 It's almost too good to be true. Blake, it came from you. Walk us through it. And,

01:21:01.800 Saurabh, you have time?

01:21:02.720 Yeah.

01:21:02.880 You have 10 minutes? Is that okay?

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:04.300 Ish? Okay, Blake.

01:21:05.600 So this all came up. A friend of mine who's in the DeSantis camp, which is fine,

01:21:11.340 but I do think he's in a little bit of denial about Ron's overall prospects for winning the

01:21:17.660 nomination. And he was like, look, Blake, there's polls. We'll bring it up here. We have to build it

01:21:23.500 up. He's like, Blake, there's new polls. There's new polls. And they show Ron, you know, he's actually

01:21:28.240 ahead of Trump in New Hampshire. And he sent it to me. And I was like, okay, that's interesting.

01:21:34.680 And then I started taking a look. And there were a few other polls. And I don't have the New

01:21:39.880 Hampshire one, unfortunately, because I'm not logged into Twitter on my thing right now. But I do

01:21:44.280 have their poll for-

01:21:45.300 Okay, you got to read it off.

01:21:46.120 Iowa. Their poll for Iowa. Actually, let's go for their national poll.

01:21:49.180 Yes.

01:21:50.000 This poll is a national Republican primary poll. First place, it says, Ron DeSantis, 47%. You put 100

01:21:57.580 Republicans in a room, 47 of them are pulling the lever for Ron. Second place, Vivek,

01:22:03.400 Ramaswamy, 23%. Third place, at 15%, Donald Trump. No, Chris Christie. And then at 10%, Donald

01:22:14.900 Trump. 10% Republican voters, according to this poll, are ready to vote for Trump. And

01:22:20.400 they have another poll. We've got it up on the screen here. Can we zoom in a bit? There

01:22:24.340 we go. Yeah, there we go. And who produced this poll for us to read it? It is none other

01:22:31.360 than an outfit named Ron Polain Incorporated.

01:22:39.220 So I had this texted to me from multiple people, one of them, a DeSantis shill, who just, you

01:22:44.360 know, is as delusional as a trans activist, right? Like out of control. And they're like,

01:22:49.540 we're gaining steam. And I was like, okay, who conduct, by the way, you know what the tell,

01:22:54.260 they said that they had 5,000 respondents. 5,600. No way you get, you'll get 5,000 respondents

01:22:59.740 in an Emerson Siena poll before a general election in Pennsylvania, like 5,000 respondents. And so

01:23:06.140 Jack, this thing started to travel on Twitter and DeSantis shills on Twitter were like, we

01:23:10.760 got him. Trump's in fourth place, according to Ron Poling.

01:23:15.160 So what's, what's really going on here is this is without a doubt the greatest polling

01:23:24.420 firm in contemporary America, 21st century America, Ron Poling. And look, I say this as

01:23:31.360 a guy, look, people know I'm a Trump guy and I feel dejected when I look at these numbers,

01:23:36.540 but I'm aware of Ron Poling's fantastic track record, their history. And I would be, I would

01:23:42.980 go so far as to say they are the gold standard in the industry. We must always trust Ron Poling

01:23:50.900 and really only trust Ron Poling for all polling endeavors going forward.

01:23:55.000 Here's another great one. I've got their 20, you can look at it here, their 2024 Iowa Republican

01:24:00.240 primary poll. They usually would say caucus poll in the polls, but they're ahead of the curve.

01:24:04.960 And I think, you know, okay, we've got DeSantis in first again, then Vivek, then Christie again,

01:24:09.960 Trump's at 12, but the best part is Chuck Grassley is polling at 5%. And Chuck Grassley is not running

01:24:18.120 for president. Best polling company ranked by People Magazine. What is the best part about this

01:24:24.040 is people believed it. Why wouldn't you? They're the gold standard. Look, I I'm unaffiliated in the

01:24:30.340 presidential primary. I want a great Republican president to get elected and help staff them with

01:24:35.540 the best people we have to make sure that we actually implement the agenda that the people

01:24:39.480 keep voting for. However, what I've said to my friends on the DeSantis campaign or affiliated with

01:24:44.160 it for a long time is it is entirely reasonable for Ron DeSantis and his supporters to think that he

01:24:52.820 should be president of the United States, but you have to operate in reality, like at the end of the

01:24:57.120 day. And so if you're, if you're operating in fantasy land where there is a set of facts where

01:25:01.100 Trump is in fourth in Iowa and fourth in New Hampshire, that's fine. I'm just not going to

01:25:06.980 come to your imaginary fantasy land with you. You're welcome to enjoy your, your treehouse where,

01:25:12.760 where, where this is the reality, but acknowledging what's actually going on in the electorate might

01:25:18.280 help you give better advice to your candidate who honestly deserves better advice than he's often

01:25:24.040 getting. Are you some kind of wrong polling denier right now? Is that what's going on? You're just

01:25:28.440 denying, denying the efficacy of wrong polling. Here's the thing. This is the wrong polling

01:25:33.480 truth. After this video, it's entirely conceivable that Ron DeSantis' poll numbers skyrocketed.

01:25:39.460 Play cut 97.

01:25:40.140 We're just here for the eggs. And then you do, like, fry them sometimes, or what are you doing?

01:25:51.160 Thank you.

01:25:52.160 Thank you.

01:25:52.200 Thank you.

01:25:53.420 Can I come here again?

01:25:55.320 I'm going to be a bacon, egg dog, egg dog.

01:25:58.700 Wow.

01:25:59.920 Where, Chris, you go? You want one?

01:26:01.920 Yeah.

01:26:02.240 Okay.

01:26:02.740 Thank you.

01:26:04.060 Whatever consultant thought this was a good idea should be sent to Gitmo. Jack, you could

01:26:20.880 probably arrange that. I mean, this, you know, here's what we're going to do. We're going

01:26:23.900 to have you put eggs in. Feel the desantimentum. I mean, this is where, look, you got to understand

01:26:33.660 that Ron Polling's methodology includes diverse sampling, rigorous data analysis, and a keen

01:26:42.320 understanding of regional political dynamic. You might think that this video of Ron DeSantis

01:26:48.980 not making eye contact with anyone, simply staring at hard-boiled eggs and, you know,

01:26:56.480 sticking them with little pencil sticks, little Popsicle sticks, is wrong or something.

01:27:03.320 But much like the Tibetan greeting of sticking your tongue out, in Iowa, this is actually considered

01:27:11.780 a regional and traditional bestowing of not only respect, but blessing.

01:27:16.140 Yeah. If anyone questions Ron Polling, you're an election denier.

01:27:21.340 We will fight them.

01:27:21.980 And Big Fannie Willis will indict you.

01:27:23.380 I will find you and fight you in real life at your house.

01:27:27.200 Okay, Blake, do we have something else we need to cover?

01:27:30.560 We just have the, I guess, no, we're scuttling that.

01:27:33.940 Final thoughts, Rob. Tell us about American Moment, what you're doing. Give us a nice little

01:27:37.580 plug here.

01:27:38.280 Sure. American Moment's job is to make sure that after we're done with this presidential food

01:27:42.600 fight, that we actually get an administration full of the people that we need in order to

01:27:47.580 implement the agenda that the American people keep voting for. Basically, we're trying to build up

01:27:51.780 the legion of, you know, 15,000 or so people you need to actually run politics. These are the

01:27:56.940 staffers that staff the congressmen that people keep electing. These are the 4,000 or so political

01:28:01.860 appointments that every president gets to make. It's the other people in D.C., the policymaker,

01:28:05.940 the policy entrepreneurs, the think tank people, et cetera. Basically, you need a couple thousand

01:28:10.500 people in order to run the country. We don't have them right now. The ones we have are incompetent.

01:28:14.720 The ones that are competent are parts of the establishment. It's American Moment's job to

01:28:19.800 build up that population.

01:28:20.920 Yeah, so, I mean, do you think we're prepared if something miraculous happens and a Republican wins?

01:28:26.240 I think we're getting more so. Look, I can't do everything, but I think that there is a

01:28:30.720 coalition of groups that are thinking heavily about these questions that are putting in the work

01:28:35.120 now. We're much more organized than we were prior to 2016. I can say that having looked at the

01:28:39.900 history, even though I wasn't there. So I think we're poised to have a better answer to that

01:28:45.640 question of personnel next time. But ultimately, there's only so much that the people who are

01:28:51.440 already in politics can do what we need. This is part of the reason I get so hopping mad when I see

01:28:56.260 stuff like the 65 project and what they're doing to President Trump's lawyers. What we need is people

01:29:00.780 to step into the arena and say, I'm going to dedicate my life or at least a portion of my career

01:29:05.080 to being a competent America first person who will help staff the next administration or staff

01:29:09.960 these congressional offices. And the left is doing everything they can to make sure that it is as

01:29:14.420 risky as possible to do that. That's okay. We'll still find brave people. But if you want to get

01:29:18.760 involved, you can go to AmericanMoment.org. And it's fair to say you guys are the based staffing

01:29:23.420 arm of the conservative movement? Look, we have a statement of priorities that goes through everything

01:29:27.860 you could ask. It goes through how immigration has to be restricted, how our foreign policy has to be

01:29:32.360 restrained, how we need to have protectionist trade policies, how the family is the bedrock

01:29:37.900 of American society. So when it comes to those core issues that define the America first agenda,

01:29:43.260 we are the only organization as far as I've ever seen that put it in as explicit terms. So I guess

01:29:49.440 you could say that. Very good. Jack, final thoughts before we send Saurab back to where he came from.

01:29:56.080 Yes, Saurab, you have to go back. Well, I just want to let everybody know that this t-shirt that I'm

01:30:01.980 wearing is 20 years old. This is the summer sanitarium t-shirt. This is a bootleg that I bought

01:30:07.840 in the parking lot outside of Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia, which no longer exists. This was

01:30:12.320 Metallica, Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit all at the same show. Very good. And I do want to say everyone

01:30:19.000 support AmericanMoment.org. It is excellent and necessary. Blake, final thoughts. By the way, we're

01:30:25.140 taking standing applications for the Blake Neff marriage carousel. Get Blake Neff married. And

01:30:30.780 Saurab, maybe, I don't know if you're married or dating anybody. I'm good. You're good. Okay. Not

01:30:35.980 interested. So Blake Neff, top urgency. He shaved his beard. So it's this whole new dynamic. And in the

01:30:43.240 least way gay possible, I think you look great, Blake. Final thoughts are, we're going to cut

01:30:49.180 aid to Ukraine and we're going to channel it towards opening a new Pizza Hut with only 80s

01:30:54.320 and early 90s arcade games in every city in America. And it would be a better use of the

01:30:59.580 money. That's central planning at its best. Till next time, hoping we're not in federal prison

01:31:04.480 or indicted by Fannie Willis. God bless you guys and keep committing thought crimes.

01:31:07.980 Thought crime is death.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 19, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 10

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