THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 102 — Roger Goodell LOVES Bad Bunny, NBA Mob Moneyball Scandal, NYC Mayoral Debates
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Jack Posobiec is joined by Andrew Colvett and Tyler Boyer to discuss the latest in sports and politics, including the latest on the NBA playoffs, and the possibility of Big Brother watching your every move.
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to another Thursday edition of Thought Crime.
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It is Thought Crime Thursday, and the Thought Crimes will always continue.
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I am Jack Posobiec, coming to you from the remote studio.
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But back in Phoenix, I believe we've got two of my compatriots in person.
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We got Andrew Colvett and Tyler Boyer, who just made it in by the skin of a seat.
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Yeah, I don't know if you heard, but ASU defeated a top-ten team this week.
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But I'm just saying, it just kind of looks like you got some birthday PJs.
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Because it was Tyler's big 4-0, what, yesterday.
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And then yesterday, for the opener, the Suns defeated the Sacramento Kings.
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He's got the Forkham hat on, which I literally thought said something else.
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I got a high-five Devin Booker last night, so I'm good.
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Yeah, you got to be really careful when you read the Forkham hat.
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It was, I mean, this is kind of thought-crimey.
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Last year, when ASU went to the Peach Bowl, they had stuck the fork inside the Peach.
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This is a perfect time to bring up Cliff Maloney.
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He's streaming in from a remote location as well.
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But traversing all over the world, as you guys know.
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Thank you for all your hard work in New Jersey.
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Give us a quick Cliff's Notes, which is pun intended.
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Yeah, so real quick, in Pennsylvania, we've decided to double down.
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So the Pennsylvania Chase is not going to be a once-every-four-year thing, not every other year.
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And obviously, you guys are, you know, three of the only people in the world that understand that and get what we're trying to do.
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So we're knocking another 500,000 doors in Pennsylvania.
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We've got 118 full-time people on the ground right now.
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But as people do get distracted by shiny objects, New Jersey, we did launch the New Jersey Chase program.
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And so we've got 105 additional folks in New Jersey, 10 Airbnbs throughout the state.
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If you would have asked me six months ago, I would have said, I'm not sure if Jack has a shot.
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The numbers right now tell us we're about 5.5% in a better position than Jack was four years ago when he was running for governor.
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We've been as honest as we can be here when we get out to talk to some of our viewers.
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Jack is going to have to continue to climb with vote-by-mail.
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And then most importantly, he's going to have to do very well with early voting and dominate election day.
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But the good news is that this thing is a race.
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We've got 12 days to try to flip New Jersey, which I didn't think was in my vocabulary until about a couple months ago.
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And by the way, not only to mention that, but your NJ Chase efforts are going to be bolstered because I believe Tyler Boyer made a pretty interesting turning point action first-time-ever announcement yesterday on his birthday.
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We've got two big events, Super Chase events that we're doing in New Jersey.
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I think, Cliff, I think you're going to be there for them.
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And so we're going to be driving as many volunteers as we possibly can because our technology can support getting out people basically in rapid speed, out knocking doors and talking to voters.
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And that's what we're going to need to do in the final week.
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We'll throw it back up here so everyone can see it.
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So you can go to tpaction.com slash superchase slash NJ.
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And if you're in the tri-state area, if you're in the South Jersey, Philadelphia area, Maryland, D.C. area, there it is.
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You can make your way up and come join us for both these events.
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So I literally just made that same mistake like 20 minutes ago when I was talking to Tanya about something.
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Because no announcements, but I'm going to see if I can break away from family stuff because it's like Halloween weekend.
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But I'm going to see if I can break away to come to at least one of those.
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So I figure, you know, sneak over, do something, and then sneak back.
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And by the way, guys, we should also mention, since we're all here right now, I'd love if we could all get together for election night next week.
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My crappy headquarters in Harrisburg, after the big win, we decided to give it a paint job.
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I mean, I think there's very few better ways to honor Charlie Kirk than streaming on election night.
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I mean, it's basically written in stone at this point.
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Not only are we going to be streaming, but I'm going to be sitting right next to you, buddy, out there in Phoenix, right in my apportioned seat where I was one year ago.
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And, Andrew, I'm bringing you another tasty cake.
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Dude, I still got that tasty cake in my backpack.
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I think they sell them at mypatriotsupply.com slash Kirk.
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No, you cannot destroy a tasty cake using conventional methods.
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While we're on the topic of New Jersey and we've got Cliff here, Cliff, do you happen to know—
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Do you happen to know what the Democrat vote advantage was going into Election Day and four years ago?
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I do know it's very different than Pennsylvania.
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The current number, you're going to probably correct me, is what?
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Well, I mean, I'm talking about the actual returns.
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Right now, the return advantage that Democrats have over Republicans is about $175,000, as of I think that was yesterday.
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Um, so that—that may have been today, actually.
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So that's—yeah, that was my question, was if you had handy what the number was heading into Election Day,
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uh, what the advantage was for Democrats four years ago.
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But what I'll tell you that's interesting, and you guys know this because you operate in a bunch of states.
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Like, Pennsylvania, the one thing that we do have is they're very transparent about requests, about returns by party.
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But even more importantly, the votes by method.
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You know, New Jersey's kind of been fascinating because it's much—I mean, you can get to it, but it's much tougher to find.
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I mean, the thing I mentioned earlier, the 5.5 percent, that is this far out from the election.
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If you look at the returns by party, we are 5.5 percent better than we were.
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I'm not sure whether that is on raw, but to me, I like to look at the trends of the percentage because then it's based on,
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OK, not just what Republicans are returning, right, but what are the Democrats doing as well.
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Well, I just sent one in the chat if you guys want to see.
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It's a lot of numbers, so I won't let Tyler do that.
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But I believe the return rate is about neck and neck, and I have that out of Decision Desk.
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So Michael Prusso over on Decision Desk, look, we're already doing the election live stream.
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Decision Desk has it at neck and neck 50-50 with a Dem raw advantage at 174,000.
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And Tyler, I know you were talking about this on the Charlie Kirk show yesterday, but look,
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if Republicans are going to win this, it's going to come down to that day of turnout.
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It's going to come down to really needing to just blow out.
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That was the same thing we did last year, right?
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Republicans won on day of, but the difference was we came into Election Day with a bank of votes
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That was the point of turning point action all across the targeted states, the swing states.
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And so the seven swing states, we all remember them.
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And the entire point was that if you come into Election Day with a bank of votes already,
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Whereas before, we weren't banking those votes.
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We didn't have Cliff Maloney and the Maloney method to come out there.
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It's like Maloney ball over here where he's coming in and putting it all, you know, putting
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it all in bank so that we have something to actually springboard into.
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And this is what Charlie talked about all the time in 2022.
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He said, and he could see it happening in real time that the Dems just kept dipping into that
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And, and, and this is what was the separator with us here in Arizona and why we felt so
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comfortable going into Election Day was we were trending about five to 6% ahead of the
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That was our goal was we wanted to remain upwards of 5% better than Democrats and early returns.
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And I mean, that's, that's the name of the game, right?
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Is get out ahead of the Democrats as, as on return percentage.
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Which, you know, you just mentioned, Jack, that, that, you know, the Democrat return
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percentage is, is reflecting very similar numbers to what the Republican return
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The Republicans have actually been out ahead of the Democrats up to this point.
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They just, they just closed that gap and matched it up.
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Which is really interesting, but that's, that's, I mean, name of the game moving forward,
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especially in these states, these, these states that we have to win, if President Trump isn't
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successful at eliminating mail-in ballots in, in, in totality, you're going to have to
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chase them to stay out ahead of them in order to give ourselves the best chance possible
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on election day, especially when, again, inclement weather can happen, or, you know,
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just people wake up on the wrong side of the bed that day, you know, national tragedy
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could happen, you know, just, there's lots of things that can impact.
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One election day, which again, I, for, you know, everybody that's listening here, I'm
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in full support of going back to how things used to run, which is, you know, one big election
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day, you know, ballots, we support the president completely on that.
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But if the, if it's not eliminated, you know, we have to unfortunately play by these stupid
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rules that have been put into place by, you know, leftists, they have been trying to manipulate
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our elections now for decades. So that's what we're up against in New Jersey.
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Well, and here's that Michael, that's a Michael Pruser tweet. I just put it in the chat here,
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guys. It says, New Jersey vote by mail file is in for 1023. Democrats flip the return rate
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margin, picking up 54 basis points and adding nearly 9,500 votes to their raw turnout lead.
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So now you can see that Republican return rate is at 50.20%. Democrat return rate just slightly
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higher at 50.26%. And so the raw vote edge is 100, about 175,000 for the Dems. So he goes
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on to explain that the day of the day we all expected has arrived, Democrats have now returned
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a higher rate of ballots and are likely to expand their lead to something around approximately
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3% when all votes have been counted, including those that show up after election day. Return
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pace will continue to slow as roughly 70% of all expected absentee ballots have been returned.
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So, but that doesn't mean, so it's all going to come down to election day then, Jack.
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And, and that's why these super chase events, getting the rah-rah out, getting people aware,
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making some, making some noise, making some stink. So that's going to be huge, well-timed,
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because that's really going to be where, where, where it's all determined.
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Yeah. And hopefully we can also get some messages out to all the voters,
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you know, in, in the name of turning point, letting people know and reminding people to vote.
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Election reminders are really important. That's the work that, you know, Cliff's doing on the
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ground with njchase.org. Go to njchase.org to follow what Cliff's doing and what his organization's
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doing there. But vote reminders are what is the most necessary thing.
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Phone calls, texts. You can go, you can download the turning point action application right now.
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You can, you can join under make calls, uh, and send texts, uh, to do that and help with that.
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And so, uh, everybody that's within the sound of our voice, I know that we've, we beat this thing
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like a drum and it feels like 2024 all over again. When we say these things, you know, we didn't get
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the job done enough in Wisconsin with the Supreme court race. We had put thousands of people on the
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ground doing this work. It still wasn't enough. The left has literally tens of thousands of people
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doing this work leftover from Obama era where they have all these systems in place. And so you have to
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get used to just doing this work and spending a little bit of time. I call it like going to church
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every week. You got to spend a few hours every week, just doing the activist work as part of
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your lifestyle in America. If you don't want the left to take over and it's the same as going to
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church, not the same as going to church. Church is more important, but it's the same, not to the
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left. It's not, it's the same type of commitment, which is that you have to the left, to the left,
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you know, and this, this is one of the reasons, no, I do want to actually hit that because this is
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maybe a thought crime and I know it's on the list, but who cares? All right. This is what we do.
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Going to, so like the no Kings protests and you know, the phrase no Kings of course comes from
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the French revolution, no Kings because they wanted to behead the King. That was the point
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of saying it that for the right going to church is your theological experience of the week. That's
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where you get your emotion. That's where you get your connection to God, your connection to community
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for the left participating in mass protests is their way of going to church. It is their theological
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activity of the week there. It is religious. They have a religious fervor for doing so.
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They believe that by taking part in it, that they are doing something for their religion. And in fact,
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they are because that is exactly what their belief system is that this, their commitment to
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progressivism is not beyond ideological. It is in fact, a theology, religious movement. And they believe
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Jack, are you, are you suggesting that leftists, uh, their ideology is beyond common sense or it's
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nonsensical at times they're willing to bend the truth to fit into their ideology?
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Well, it's a, it's a pagan religion. It's a neo-pagan religion. And you see this, uh, certainly
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you see this certainly with, um, with their worship of the earth, which goes back, you know,
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to Gaia worship and, and old religion, old pagan religions. You see it with their worship of again,
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all earthly things because they don't actually believe in eternity. So they have these pagan
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belief systems. Uh, they also believe in crazy things that you can't see. So they'll say like,
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oh, you know, they'll say, oh, how come you can prove you, you say you believe in God and Jesus,
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but you can't see God and Jesus and angels. And I say, okay, well, you guys say you believe in
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things like systemic racism and the wage gap and none of those things exist in reality either.
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Well, I was trying to, I was about to do the, the Harry Sisson head Bob for you just because,
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you know, because, you know, because, uh, yeah, he's been sending me the bobble meme like 10 times
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a day. I love the bobble meme. Just Harry Sisson going, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jack, uh, Jack. And, um,
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show me on the meme, the bobble head doll, um, show me on the doll, the bobble head doll,
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where the meme heard you guys, when he was doing that. And I was like, like I was, you know,
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and Isabel Brown, the great Isabel Brown, um, was just going through chapter and verse. Cause I,
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I was like, well, Kamala Harris did. And he goes, when she's reading it off and I see him doing
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this. And I, I honestly, and I mean this in all sincerity, I thought he was having some kind of
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medical episode and I'm sitting there thinking like, is this guy okay? Like I, I hope he is.
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Honestly, I hope he is because I have, I have no idea what just happened.
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We have to do the same thing. When we don't, we have the one with the same thing.
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Destiny did the same thing. I didn't see that. No, he had like a, he had this weird,
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like Twitch kind of thing where he was like looking off boneless, posted the tweet of both
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of them together. And you could see, there's just this very strange behavior. I don't even know.
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Yeah. The way, the way I, I describe it from a lot of people.
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A lot of people on the left, I find this thing where when they don't actually debate people that
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are bright on the right or that are articulate, you know, when they're just kind of in their echo
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chamber and then they have to have a conversation, they just go to these weird emotions, right?
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You like watch them in some of these interviews where they're just like, they don't know how to
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articulate, right? Cause they're used to just getting a free pass and they're used to just hearing
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people praising them from their side that when somebody just calmly presents facts, they have a
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complete meltdown. They don't know how to react. Hold on. You can tell that he might be a,
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he might've been having a medical episode, uh, play, play kit clip.
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I love it. Anyways, that's not what I was trying to give you an off ramp to though.
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I don't like hearing, I don't like seeing his face and hearing the, the boing sound.
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So, so hold on. So, uh, that was a good moment, Jack. You, you, you got the better of Harry's
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system there, uh, big time, but here, I was trying to give you an off ramp to Stephen A.
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Smith. I was trying to give you the off ramp to Stephen A. Smith talking about how when you bend
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reality to fit your ideology, you sound like a cuckoo bird. And this is, this is, uh, this is the,
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Well, so it is. And you're right. Stephen A. Smith did say that, but so I want to go back because
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we've got an update. Everyone knows that we made the huge announcement, all American halftime show
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turning point USA. Oh, we're going to have announcements of lineup. I know there's been a lot of like fake news
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and fake set lists and fake rumors about who's coming up and showing up. And I may have participated
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in spreading some of that, um, through, through, uh, through, but I, you know, I don't have any
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burner accounts. I don't know what those things are, but, uh, we did mention this and I want to go
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back because the Genesis of this, and I wanted to point out that the reason I mentioned something
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about the halftime show wasn't in a vacuum because there is someone who used to talk about the Super
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halftime shows every single year. Play clip three, four, eight. People say it's a spicy program.
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Okay. Listen, spicy. It's supposed to be boundary pushing. When you have the most televised event,
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this is true. Most televised event for the entire year. One of the most televised events on the planet,
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by the way, that should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody.
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We should say, we should say Jack that the, all the fake, you know, there's, I've seen a bunch
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of lineups for the halftime show. Talks are ongoing. There are no official. Yeah. We haven't
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made any announcements. Yes. So I just want to reiterate underscore bold italic, but we're,
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but we're talking about, there was an announcement that came out about the Superbowl halftime show from
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Roger Goodell. Let's go to, uh, 324 decision to choose bad money as your Superbowl halftime performer.
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He's one of the leading and most popular entertainers in the world. Uh, that's,
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that's what we try to achieve. It's an important stage for us. Uh, it's important element to the
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entertainment value. Um, it's carefully thought through. Uh, I would say that I'm not sure we've
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ever selected an artist where we didn't have some blowback or criticism. Uh, it's pretty hard to do
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it when you have literally hundreds of millions of people that are watching. Um, but I, we're
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confident it's going to be a great show and that, uh, he understands the platform that he's on. And,
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um, I think it's going to be exciting and a united moment.
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A uniting moment, a uniting moment. So there's Roger Goodell, the great, everybody loves him so
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much saying that bad bunny is going to be uniting. And so again, I don't have the clip sheet, but
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there's a bad bunny clipped. I wasn't even aware of this until we were doing the show prep for
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thought crime tonight. This is the, this is the bad bunny. Andrew, if you have the list, um, go for
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it because this is the bad bunny statue of Liberty. Oh yeah. Did you guys even know about this?
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I made a mistake. I want to apologize to the immigrants in America. I'm in the United States.
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I know America is the whole continent. I want to say that this country is nothing
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without the immigrants. This country is nothing without Mexicans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans,
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So that's a bad bunny video slash stunt that he put out just three months ago. Um, where,
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and for those of you who are just listening, when that starts out, there's an image of the statue of
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Liberty with the, with, I guess it's bad bunny up there. Like he's ghostbusters too. And he's putting
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the, uh, Puerto Rican flag over the statue of Liberty. And then it cuts smash cuts to, um, a bunch
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of guys sitting around a radio and listening as if it's like the 1980s, again, ghostbusters too,
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um, in, you know, like in Brooklyn or something or the Bronx. And it's like this AI Trump apologizing
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to Mexicans and his, it, this is just bizarre. No, it's so bizarre that immigrants, this guy's
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nothing without Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and all this stuff. And by the way, Puerto Ricans are
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American. It should be said. I mean, they, we, it's a territory. Well, they're American citizens.
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They're American citizens. Yeah. They speak Spanish, but a lot, most of them do speak English.
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Let's have some real thought crimes, boys. But I mean, here it is kind of annoying. The biggest
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thing I think it's like when he says it's going to be unifying, well, I mean, okay, but you probably
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should have talked to bad bunny about that first, Roger, you buffoon, because you know, he came out
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and he instantly was like, I don't, I'm not going to speak English. And you guys all have four months
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to learn Spanish. So, I mean, I think the message is pretty clear, you know?
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And this is the problem. I mean, Roger Goodell is trying to take both sides. It's either A,
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he's tone deaf or B, he's an idiot. It's 2025, right? We just had this major referendum in the
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country. You have to research these artists and understand that if they're going to take certain
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positions, you know, you're going to have to deal with that blowback. So you can't act like this is
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not a political thing when the guys put out videos like that, put out statements like that. But I mean,
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to me, it's, it's, they just always play to the mob of never wanting to offend anybody except the
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American right. I mean, why are we always the ones that have to kind of be offended or they have to
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push us? It doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the only thing unifying about Roger Goodell is that
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everybody hates Roger Goodell and that's the most unifying thing in America. And so Roger Goodell being
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a teammate with bad bunny just like villainizes the halftime show even more. And so I'm like all
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about it. Like we need more Roger Goodell go out in public and saying how much he endorsed his bad
00:26:18.560
money. The more you talk, Roger, please, the better it gets for the all-American halftime show.
00:26:24.480
Think about this. Think about this. He had to come out and give a statement about bad bunny because of
00:26:31.360
TPUSA. And that just shows the power and the strength of TPUSA and what Charlie and, and what,
00:26:38.320
what Tyler and, and then, you know, Andrew tried to clean up some of the messes here and there,
00:26:43.280
you know, obviously wasn't able to clean up much on his own part. But that's okay. No one's perfect.
00:26:48.760
And, and, you know, it just shows the power of what Charlie built, right? It shows the power of this
00:26:54.760
movement and shows the power of what TPUSA is because you've got the, you've got the commissioner of
00:26:59.640
the NFL has to come out and give a statement saying that we're going to stick with bad bunny
00:27:03.820
because legitimately people are just don't like this guy. He's not a uniter. He's obviously there
00:27:09.420
because they signed this George Floyd era contract with Jay-Z who's Barack Obama's best friend.
00:27:14.900
And that's why bad bunny gets put into, you know, these top Netflix movies, like happy Gilmore too.
00:27:20.560
All of a sudden he's happy Gilmore's caddy and not the guy who was in the original movie.
00:27:25.440
And then suddenly he's also at the NFL's halftime show. It's like, this is just such an obvious
00:27:31.520
corporate play and it looks really, really bad. And, and no, people are going to be sick of it
00:27:36.820
and they're going to tune out and they're going to tune in to TPUSA. And you know what? I say,
00:27:43.920
Jack, that's not true. Cause I'm on Tik TOK. If you look at Tik TOK, there's a bunch of people
00:27:48.220
that say like, I just can't even like with turning point. Okay. I just can't even three 46.
00:27:56.300
Wait, you guys, I just saw the alternative halftime show thing. I'm not kidding. I thought it was a
00:28:01.640
joke. Cause I kind of saw it on Tik TOK and was like, Oh, they're trolling like whatever. I didn't
00:28:05.720
know they're actually having an alternative halftime show for people who are racist. That is, can you
00:28:10.820
imagine the people watching that? Not only racist and like hateful, but could not catch a vibe if
00:28:17.420
their life depended on it. The most vanilla unseasoned losers on the planet.
00:28:29.900
Are there more of those? There are more like Tik TOK videos. Yeah, absolutely. You want to
00:28:34.440
live Karen can't function. I never want to learn Spanish more. This is so three 44.
00:28:42.860
Charlie Kirk's network just announced that they're going to have a rival
00:28:47.360
halftime show. And all American rival halftime show.
00:29:02.540
Puerto Rico is a United States territory. Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
00:29:19.200
Wait, Cliff, that's what you just said that they don't actually, uh, use articulation and logic.
00:29:25.480
They just have this like weird emotional theatrical performances. Cliff Maloney just said it a minute
00:29:31.080
ago. She just did it. Yeah. And listen, I mean, she takes that video. She loves it. It goes viral.
00:29:36.780
And then what does she do with it? You know, she goes to her other liberal women in the area. They
00:29:40.680
sip on their wine and they talk about how they're, you know, they're the virtuous ones. I mean, that's
00:29:45.820
what these folks actually believe. It is a sickness. I mean, it is a deep, deep mental problem that these
00:29:51.800
folks have. And I don't know how you fix it. I mean, they believe what they're saying that there is
00:29:56.500
conviction in what she's saying. I think she's looney tunes. Um, but that's, you know, this is a deeper
00:30:01.500
problem that we want to give you credit for. And by the way, I'm going to have a little bit of a
00:30:04.280
pickle here, guys. I made a promise. I made a pact that I would be at every Eagle Superbowl. So
00:30:09.300
if the Eagles get to the Superbowl, we might have a problem where I've got to just, you know,
00:30:14.220
this, just decide where my allegiances are. So we'll see. Didn't they have to, so it's like,
00:30:19.360
by the way, so like, um, you know, I might be Polish, but I did play Bernardo in West ride story.
00:30:26.140
So I think I know a little bit about Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rico, but the,
00:30:38.240
the, there's a whole song in West side story about like Puerto Ricans coming to the whole musical is
00:30:43.840
literally about Puerto Ricans coming to America and they're like dumping on Puerto Rico. And I think
00:30:49.820
for the movie, they had to like sanitize the lyrics. I think, is that, is that Ariana Grande? She
00:30:54.700
plays the, uh, I can't remember in, in the movie, they had to totally change it because they were
00:30:59.940
like, okay, this goes a little, I think it's Rogers and Hammerstein is the original. And they're like,
00:31:03.720
this goes a little bit too hard on Puerto Rico. Like you, you, you lousy Island and everything.
00:31:10.360
Puerto Rico. I want to pull up the lyrics to that actually. And they're like dumping on it. So it's
00:31:15.440
like, like the question of is Puerto Rico American is a legitimate question, right? Yes. We know that
00:31:21.280
they're U S citizens. We get that, but I don't think it's illegitimate. And by the way,
00:31:25.440
we are not saying that either. Like that's when we say all American, we just mean all American.
00:31:29.640
It's like USA baby. Um, but at the same deal with like, like, like I served in Guam a couple of times
00:31:35.360
and Guam is a U S territory, but it's got its own unique culture. And I'm just saying there's a
00:31:39.680
difference when you're born in the, the, you know, an actual part of the United States that is
00:31:46.540
connected to other parts of the United States when there's not, but, but, but hold on. I just
00:31:52.040
have to do it. You speak the language. Well, but yeah, but she's trying right here. Yeah. 360.
00:31:57.660
Puerto Rico. Play that again. Puerto Rico. One more time. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico.
00:32:06.880
I give her an A for effort and a C minus for delivery. I, uh, I have a, I have a new bet for you,
00:32:15.660
Cliff. If the Eagles don't go to the, to the Superbowl, I think you should still have to go
00:32:20.380
to the Superbowl, but you have to wear a Puerto Rican jumpsuit. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico.
00:32:27.580
Um, I might be there with you, man. I don't know. Oh, come on, Jack. This whole thing is your fault.
00:32:36.620
This is all Jack's fault. He had to, he memed this thing into, into existence. Next thing I know,
00:32:41.740
I'm getting, I'm getting emails from legitimate press outlets going like, is turning point USA
00:32:47.060
really planning its own halftime show? And I was like, wow, shoot. And then our inbox flooded.
00:32:53.720
Our inbox flooded. No, if, if the Eagles don't go to the, to the Superbowl, we're all going to enjoy
00:33:00.200
the alternative halftime show together. And you guys have to go to the Superbowl. You have to pay
00:33:06.140
for the tickets and you have to celebrate bad bunny. That's like the, you have to dress up in
00:33:11.220
drag. You have to dress up in Puerto Rican drag. Actually, in the real, even in the movie version,
00:33:20.280
the Steven's, uh, even in the, uh, uh, the Spielberg film, she does actually saying Puerto
00:33:26.500
Rico, my heart's devotion, let it sink back in the ocean. So that's in the 2021 woke era version.
00:33:33.420
And that, that's still pretty hard. Cause the whole point is like, they don't like
00:33:37.740
the Island and they want to be in America. There's a whole song about this. Like you're the libs.
00:33:43.500
This is your Broadway. This is your God. This is your temple. I know your lyrics. I was the guy
00:33:51.180
at Shakespeare in the park. Okay. I know how this works. You have a whole musical about hating
00:33:57.660
Puerto Rico. We have a, we have a, uh, rumble rant. Oh, from Zuzu's pedals, which again,
00:34:07.180
we love Zuzu's pedals. Uh, I want to talk about a great movie. I want jelly roll and Brandon Lake
00:34:13.340
singing hard fought hallelujah at the all American halftime show request. Jelly roll lost a ton of
00:34:19.420
weight. Have you guys seen that? Yeah, I have. He's a, he's a good Christian guy too. No,
00:34:24.860
I saw Jerry jelly roll last year at SummerSlam because he performed at WWE SummerSlam. And I
00:34:32.060
was there in Cleveland. True story. All right. We'll say, I want to talk about this. Steven
00:34:37.020
A Smith. I've been chomping at the bit to get to it. So can I, should I give the, should I give
00:34:41.900
the primer and then we dive into it a little bit? So explain. Yeah. So explain this because there
00:34:47.820
was this, you know, I guess we're doing sports today and this is with like such a Charlie story.
00:34:52.540
Kash Patel pops up in New York city today and he gives this, I love what you said about it too,
00:34:57.900
Andrew earlier, where it's like, this is just like a story that you think would happen in like
00:35:02.700
normal America, like pre insanity America. Yep. It was exactly, that's exactly what it felt like. It
00:35:09.900
was like, Oh, we're, you know, there's mafia ties. There's, there's a legal, uh, throwing of games.
00:35:16.940
Like, so this one guy from the Miami heat was in 2023 was basically, if you don't know, it's a prop
00:35:23.580
bet that you can make on some of these platforms, whatever a prop bet is an individual, uh, you're
00:35:28.460
betting on the individual's performance, right? How many points he's going to score over under how
00:35:32.700
many assists, how many steals, whatever. And so basically he says that his ankle is hurt. He goes
00:35:40.300
out after the first 10 minutes. So of course, if you bet the under on his performance and he only played
00:35:45.180
10 minutes, you're probably going to win that bet. But then there was also like Chauncey Billups,
00:35:49.260
who's the head coach of the Portland trailblazers. He's apparently been implicated in an, an illegal
00:35:56.620
poker scheme that's been coordinated with the mafia. And they're using like x-ray and high tech devices
00:36:03.500
to cheat at poker, these high stakes game. And they were using Chauncey Billups hall of famer,
00:36:08.220
now current coach as the, the, the fishing expedition to bring in the big, the, the high net worth people.
00:36:14.780
Cause if you hear, Oh, NBA hall of famers involved in this must be legit. It's going to be good,
00:36:19.500
good games. And so, you know, all in there's 34 people that have been implicated and arrested
00:36:25.900
by the FBI in this. And, and here's, here's the funny part, Jack, the investigation started in 2023.
00:36:34.140
Who was the president in 2023? Joe Biden. Well, the correct answer is the auto pen.
00:36:41.680
Excuse me. I'm sorry. It was the auto pen. You missed that one. That's fine. I said,
00:36:46.000
I totally missed that one. So, but fix it, fix it on the post, fix it in post. It was the auto pen,
00:36:51.520
Andrew. Yeah, exactly. So like, listen, let's even take, let's even take cash Patel out of this.
00:36:56.480
This is the New York FBI assistant director, Chris, Christopher Raya, uh, talking about this 311.
00:37:04.000
Victims were attracted to play alongside well-known professional athletes and coaches
00:37:08.800
like Chauncey Billups only to be unknowingly deceived through rigged shuffling machines,
00:37:15.920
fixing the odds in their favor as alleged. And as you just heard from the U S attorney's office,
00:37:23.440
this alleged scheme wreaked havoc across the nation, exploiting the notoriety of some and the wallets
00:37:31.200
of many to fund the Italian crime families. Yeah. And so, so here, here's, what's crazy.
00:37:38.720
You got the Bonanno crime family, the Gambino crime family, the Genovese crime family, the
00:37:44.000
Chase state crime family. So this is like a whole like mafia. They use like Rico statutes to do this.
00:37:50.720
You know, we've talked a lot about how Rico statutes are out of date. If you're going to go
00:37:53.680
after Antifa because they're decentralized. Well, the mafia has a hierarchy. Rico statutes can apply.
00:37:58.880
Yeah. So then. Oh, okay. Go ahead. No, I was just going to throw in, we, we really got to talk
00:38:07.200
about some of the, some of the ways that they were cheating, right? Uh, you know, especially some of
00:38:12.400
the game cheating, the, the, you know, the, the, the x-ray poker tables. I mean, we all know Cliff
00:38:18.880
Maloney is a world poker champion. I don't know if he's ever used x-ray poker tables. Maybe he's got
00:38:23.840
some kind of like x-ray reflector in his hat. That's why he always wears a hat. Um, so he's able
00:38:29.280
to, oh gosh, guys, why you got to do that to Cliff? Why you got to do that to Cliff? Look at Cliff.
00:38:33.920
Oh, come on, come on. Look, you're, you're letting all my vices show here. So look, here's my advice
00:38:39.200
to any poker players out there. And there are a bunch on the right. It's kind of interesting
00:38:43.040
community, but my advice is this, do not play any type of high-end home games. So you have tournaments
00:38:49.200
that are, you know, overseen by casinos, professionals. They've obviously got regulations
00:38:53.920
and then you've got these home games. I know a lot of really good players that find themselves
00:38:57.440
in some of these home games. And of course, I mean, when you're talking tens of thousands
00:39:01.360
of dollars, they're going to rig some of these games. I mean, they're so profitable. Um, but that
00:39:06.480
photo there was a world poker tour event I won in 2022. Uh, I don't, I don't talk about it too often
00:39:12.880
because I'm knocking too many doors, but that is my vice. I love the competition of poker,
00:39:17.040
uh, tournament poker specifically. Uh, it's an even game. Everybody starts, but it's, uh,
00:39:22.160
do not play home games unless you know the folks running them. Yeah. Because apparently you get
00:39:26.960
x-ray tables that can see the cards that you're putting down. Well, that's amazing.
00:39:31.680
If you watch it, if you, if you watch it, any of the television tables now, so I've been at the TV
00:39:36.400
table maybe two or three times. The way it works is literally, and that's the same stuff I guarantee
00:39:41.040
you they were using is when you put your cards face down, it's able to read them through the table.
00:39:46.480
So like, as you're on the TV table, you have to wear the microphone, but one of the rules is
00:39:50.800
you have to place your cards on like this four inch by four inch, uh, area. And it's reading
00:39:57.200
your cards through x-rays or through some sort of sensors. So it's not like this is new technology.
00:40:02.480
It's just that obviously that's very regulated, but that's what these folks are using to go out
00:40:07.360
and swindle these people out of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
00:40:11.040
Well, this, this is, I mean, that would be one thing if that was it, but then ESPN, ESPN's own
00:40:21.040
Stephen A. Smith felt just, I don't know, emboldened to bend the facts to fit an ideology,
00:40:31.600
Jack, just to full circle it for you and literally gave one of the dumbest takes I have ever heard in
00:40:41.120
the history. Uh, let's just say modern politics. Cause I'm sure, you know, I'm not going back to
00:40:46.080
the civil war, but in the modern politics, this is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
00:40:51.120
Three 52. Don't be Trump is coming. He's coming. It's not hyperbolic. It's not hyperbole. I'm dead
00:40:58.320
serious. He's coming. I'm just giving you the message. I'm telling you what I know, meaning what
00:41:06.320
has been told to me not by him. Cause I don't talk to him and I don't agree with him and I didn't vote
00:41:12.240
for, but you must understand this is the climate. He ain't messing around.
00:41:22.060
So he goes on this diatribe, basically saying, does that even mean? No, he's saying that Trump
00:41:27.280
is coming for the league. He he's saying that because the NBA is filled with black men that
00:41:32.300
typically, I guess, don't like him or that have been activists against him, that this is all a
00:41:37.980
revenge tour. This is Trump coming for the FBI and the FBI sticking his FBI on the NBA out of
00:41:46.020
revenge. He's coming for sports. This was Trump revenge. Like literally nothing to do with president
00:41:52.260
Trump. The FBI started this investigation in 2023 when this, uh, guy from the Miami heat went down
00:42:01.060
and there was tweets about it online that, Hey, I heard he's going to go down with, with an ankle
00:42:04.760
injury, like take the, take the under on the prop bet. And so then that got out. And so they start
00:42:11.220
looking into it and they realized there's a lot going on in the NBA and there's all these people
00:42:16.020
indicted and you know, it's, it's one of those things. And, and Angelo just pointed out, there's
00:42:22.760
a guy named Damon Jones, an unofficial assistant coach of the Lakers in 2022, the time of the incident,
00:42:29.120
he's since retired, but probably committed the most egregious of the, all these violations.
00:42:34.880
He allegedly sold at one of the games, the information that LeBron James wouldn't be playing
00:42:40.280
the following day, which then led to big bets and big wins for some of the players at the game.
00:42:45.820
So that was, that was one. So you could, and you start wondering about this and Cliff, you probably
00:42:51.340
know this as well. And, and actually you follow the NBA with your sons, but there's a new concept in
00:42:56.600
the NBA called like, what is it? Load sharing or something like working, you know, you, you
00:43:01.860
reduce their load. So you're constantly load management. That's the expression. So load
00:43:07.460
management. So they're, they're, they, they've got this whole concept where, well, we got this
00:43:10.860
load management cause you know, we want to save LeBron's legs. So he's fresh in the playoffs
00:43:14.760
or whatever. How much load management is going on? That's actually just illicit gambling over
00:43:21.680
unders on prop bets. Yeah. Cause you're going to sit your best players to keep them fresh
00:43:27.740
for the, you know, for the playoffs or the tougher, or maybe you're actually just working
00:43:34.600
a side angle and there's a side hustle and you know, something that other people don't
00:43:37.860
know. And you know, you're only going to play LeBron James about 15 minutes that night
00:43:40.900
and you're going to take the under and a guy that usually is like a triple double. Well,
00:43:45.680
you could take the under on that pretty well. Nope. So, I mean, I'm just saying the NBA is
00:43:50.700
obviously the most shoddy and corrupt of all the sports leagues. You could make an argument
00:43:55.540
about any of them. Sure. But this is like really damning to the NBA. And here you got
00:44:00.300
Stephen a Smith coming out and making a completely deranged argument. This is Trump's vengeance
00:44:07.380
tour against the black man or something. I don't know what, where he's getting off on
00:44:11.460
this, but it's completely unhinged. Well, it's twofold. So one, I think there's
00:44:15.660
the racist attack against Trump, which is the obvious one. The second though, that's
00:44:20.140
the least less obvious one is if you remember back in the election, the president had kind
00:44:27.500
of some, some really fierce words for the owners, the NBA owners. Yeah. And for a lot
00:44:33.020
of the big sports, it wasn't just NBA, it was all the major sports because there's a, I
00:44:37.680
believe there's a belief that exists, which is true that the sports franchises, which a lot
00:44:44.520
of them are conservatives that run them. A lot of them are alleged conservatives are
00:44:49.500
scared of their player base and some of their fan base. And they initiated all this really
00:44:57.820
anti vicious, anti-Trump rhetoric throughout the years that the president served in this
00:45:02.760
first administration. And in the years during the, the whole, you know, fake auto pin, uh,
00:45:08.920
presidency. Right. So you had coming into 2024, I think there were some statements off to
00:45:14.400
pull them, but there were some statements that the president made. There was like, yeah,
00:45:17.100
well, you know, basically the sports owners are going to have to pay their, their, their
00:45:23.360
dues, uh, somewhere along the lines. So there's not a ton of love lost, I think in the sports
00:45:29.920
owner. So you're saying there is credence to what Stephen A. Smith is saying. No, I'm
00:45:34.600
not saying there's credence. I'm saying that the angle that I think he's speaking to is
00:45:40.240
the one that you're mentioning, which is that Trump is racist. I think he's speaking to what
00:45:44.680
you're talking about, that there's like some, there's some like Trump vengeance to it. And
00:45:49.580
No, here's the best part. Yeah. The best part is that he's not really making any point. Right. He
00:45:56.860
reminds me kind of of Mark Cuban when Mark Cuban would come out and like, you know, always feel
00:46:01.380
like he had to have some hot take just to be edgy and to kind of always have this rumor of like a
00:46:06.240
third party presidency or the celebrity running for president. Just, you don't have to have a hot
00:46:11.100
take on every single issue, right? Everything is not about racism. Everything is not about being
00:46:15.820
the guy that has the cool takes that you can get the clicks. And you listen to what he said. He's
00:46:20.240
like saying six different things at once, but as long as he can take a stand against Trump,
00:46:24.760
he's trying to tap into some weird base. So I just, I love when these people feel that they
00:46:29.160
always have to talk. Sometimes what they have to say is not interesting. And this is one of those
00:46:33.600
cases with Stephen A. Well, so my take on it is that he, he has been floating a political run
00:46:39.680
of some type, right? It's like, is he going to go for president or something? And he got a little
00:46:45.060
Trump friendly in the 2024 race. He got a little like, Hey, Democrats, you, you're, you're being
00:46:52.440
stupid, all this lawfare, it's going to come back to bite you. And then, you know, with the
00:46:56.620
assassination, I think he saw the writing on the wall, kind of, kind of, kind of cozied up to a
00:47:02.140
centrist common sense position, took a bunch of flack. And now he's, he's flexing his progressive
00:47:08.800
bona fides by coming after Trump. I think you're totally right. So the, the, the, well, okay. So
00:47:17.100
here's, here's my next point though. I'm so excited to go after Stephen A. Smith and I'll
00:47:21.840
tell you why. And Jack, you know, this clip, I was at this news nation town hall event.
00:47:28.900
Chris Cuomo invited me. I was like, he was like, it's going to be this really peaceful thing. It's
00:47:33.480
going to be conversation is the cure. We're going to just, it's just going to be a discussion. It's not
00:47:37.540
going to be high intensity or whatever. Next thing I know, I get there and they're like,
00:47:41.940
Hey, we had to move some things around. You're with this Midas touch kit. I was like, what's his
00:47:45.040
name? Never heard of him. Guess his name's Adam. So I have to go sit there. And next, within like
00:47:50.700
a minute of being on stage, come back from a commercial break, a minute on stage. They gave
00:47:56.660
me the first word. I'm like, Hey, progressives are prone to political violence. All the polls show
00:48:01.160
it. Boom. He comes at me and goes, he goes, well, do you disavow the young Republican
00:48:07.440
group chat? And I was like, Whoa, hold on, Mr. Energy. You're like, your energy is making
00:48:12.660
my skin crawl. Like this, like this is not constructive. I'm not going to do your disavow
00:48:16.920
Olympics. And then he looks over to the panel, which was Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo, and like
00:48:21.980
Stephen A. Smith. I think Joe Manchin was there. Maybe I can't remember. He looks over
00:48:26.080
and Stephen A goes, hell yes. And like, just totally throws me under the bus. So I'm very excited
00:48:31.520
to show this clip now that Stephen A is proving himself and his showing his true colors. Play
00:48:37.740
cut three 63. There has been a trend of, I think you, you know, let's just say, let's
00:48:44.940
be gracious and say in the era of Trump, maybe it's a reaction to Trump. I'm open to those
00:48:50.080
discussions, but there is a justification for political violence. It shows up in every
00:48:55.180
poll and it's coming from progressive. And just think about this. We saw these Nazi group
00:48:59.420
chats, which I'm sure you condemn, right? This Nazi group chat. Well, we can talk about
00:49:02.420
it. Do you condemn it? I want to talk about it. Wait. So when they said gas chambers,
00:49:06.640
disavow when they say gas chambers, you won't. So you're like J.D. Vance. You just won't
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condemn this. Well, I actually had J.D. on the show today. We had a whole conversation.
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You guys can all condemn this, right? Hell yes. Thank you. Oh, look at that. Stephen A.
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Smith. Hell yes. Oh, yeah. That was your finest moment. Andrew, that, that was your finest
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moment. Could have been, you know, I would almost give you an A, but it's got to be an
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A minus. I have notes for myself. It's got to be an A minus because I have notes. It could
00:49:33.520
have been a little bit more. Well, you could have shut him down a little more because it's
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like, I don't answer to you. I'm not going to play your little struggle session game.
00:49:41.200
Well, again, it's really simple as that. Chris Cuomo reeled me in saying it was going to be
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this peaceful, sweet thing. And next thing I know, this kid's coming at me. Oh, he totally
00:49:50.240
did. And to be fair to Chris, Chris ended up having him. I think Chris was offended for
00:49:55.040
me. He sent me a nice note afterwards. And then he had the kid on his show the next
00:49:58.760
night. And he basically was like, you know what you were doing. You were trying to get
00:50:02.460
that clip and you trying to call him a Nazi. And I don't think the Midas touch guys are
00:50:06.620
very happy with Chris. Oh, yes. Yes, exactly. Why is that like, why is that like boom? Why
00:50:13.260
is it like echoey boomer? Anyways. So it was a funny, like unspoken thing that happened in
00:50:18.560
that moment where I was like, freaking Stephen A. Smith just like chimes in out of nowhere.
00:50:24.240
Like he's got a role to play in this exchange. Hell yes. And I just remember going like,
00:50:29.760
man, screw that guy. Like what? Come on. And I'm sure Stephen A. Smith is also has also
00:50:35.580
condemned Jay Jones, right? Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. Not just rhetoric, but specific
00:50:41.880
descriptions of violence to Republican children. Yeah. Well, I'm sure he's called him, called
00:50:47.200
him to drop out of the race. I'm sure of it. I'm sure we can find that. Yeah, I'm sure.
00:50:50.260
I mean, honestly, for all I know, he has. I mean, I just like, but the point is I had
00:50:56.440
a bone to pick with Stephen A. Smith. So when he's coming in here with this vast conspiracy,
00:51:01.460
34 arrests, and they say it's just the tip of the iceberg. It's an ongoing investigation.
00:51:05.520
We all can see the flops. We can all see the like the calls, the five steps, no, no traveling
00:51:11.220
calls. We can. I mean, excuse me. The NBA is a complete S show. I mean, the whole thing is
00:51:19.320
just a total mess. And for him to come out and not say, you know what? I'm ashamed of
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this coach. I'm ashamed of these players for throwing games and faking injuries for bets
00:51:29.060
that you have disgraced the league. You've tarnished a reputation. It's a league I love.
00:51:33.080
No, instead of that, instead of trying to hold them accountable, he takes it and turns
00:51:38.780
it on Trump. All these people are doing all these illegal things, swindling millions and
00:51:42.960
millions and millions of dollars out of people's pockets, innocent people. And that's
00:51:47.460
his take that it's Trump's fault. Truly mind blowing.
00:51:50.480
Hey, hey, hey, it do be like that, Mr. Colvett.
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Why is it like the Stephen A. Smith voice of God echo?
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I don't know. Because it's probably more appropriate to his actual ego. So yeah, that's about right.
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I suppose. Look, guys, I know I know some of you guys have hard outs. Cliff, Tyler, shout out your
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shout outs, man. I'll jump in and just say New Jersey is the play right now. NJ chase dot org.
00:52:25.880
Y'all can follow me on X. Appreciate the thought crime crew. Excited for election day coverage.
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Love you guys. Back at you, brother. Same. Tyler. Shout out. Tyler. Tell us about the super chases again.
00:52:38.000
We're rocking and rolling both in Arizona. We have folks down in Georgia who are working their butts off as well for a smaller election down there. And then also in New Jersey, like we mentioned, those nationally that want to get involved.
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If you're not in any one of those states, just download the Turning Point Action application. It's tpaction.com slash app for easy access to that and get involved. You can tap the arrows in the top left hand corner and then input your info and then you'll be right away be able to knock doors, make phone calls, write text messages or help with sending postcards to voters who need to hear it.
00:53:18.880
So please jump in there and get used to it. Just a few hours a month can go a whole long way with helping save the country. So we appreciate that.
00:53:27.520
Save New Jersey. Gosh, that would be a wonderful win, to be honest.
00:53:33.160
We are going to be back at the Charlie Kirk show tomorrow. We've got the AMA Ask Me Anything Fridays. So be a part of that.
00:53:42.940
I'll be there for that. Yep. Tyler's going to be there for that. And so we often get a lot of Turning Point Action questions, so it'll be good.
00:53:51.780
And then that's freedom at charliekirk.com or join themembers.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk.com, and you can become a member. Ask Me Anything.
00:53:59.960
That's going to be our show tomorrow. And yeah, Jack, it's up to you. You're the final throw.
00:54:04.580
Yeah, and just a program note, as we know, Blake is on assignment in Italy. Reports are that he has joined a nunnery.
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So we're not really sure if that's taking. Obviously, the Catholic Church has rejected male nuns for a long time.
00:54:24.700
But hey, I guess times change. So female priests and Blake is trying to break the barrier and be the first male nun.
00:54:32.300
So, you know, yes. Hats off to Blake and I, you know, just really pray for him.
00:54:42.560
Hats off. I mean, speaking of hats off, can we get that Cliff Maloney poker?
00:54:45.980
No. You're doing Cliff dirty. You're doing him dirty.
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That's a terrible Photoshop. Who Photoshopped that?
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Cliff, you should pick it. You should just pick it like Blake does, man. Just pick it straight up.
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Blake is very proud of his bald... I think Blake went bald. Like, started going bald when he was, like, a teenager.
00:55:14.720
Well, then we met that guy from Tijuana, and he was like, he was like, he was like, you must come to Tijuana.
00:55:22.120
And he, like, was pointing his hair that one night.
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I don't remember this, but I, but I'm sure, I'm sure...
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Hold on. We'll give it, we'll give it two more months.
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Don't let anybody, don't really, uh, make fun of that. That's, you're hanging in. You're hanging in.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.