Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 104 — Post-Election Palette Cleanser + Tucker⧸Fuentes Interview Reaction

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00:00:10.680 all right well ladies and gentlemen welcome to thursday night thought crime what's up guys

00:00:27.160 we have the the og crew here for once all in studio all all in studio all in studio one one one on

00:00:34.380 assignment on assignment of course but uh for once it's the whole thought crime crew um all together

00:00:40.540 this is this is great blake you you were missed last week because we had a great um you know we

00:00:46.560 we have a great lineup tonight we had we had or no you were here you were here last week

00:00:50.340 and it was tyler who's missed tyler who's missed oh wait yes we did the halloween debate it was tyler

00:00:54.420 who was missed yes yeah i can't remember what happened you were not here because the vampire

00:00:58.980 got you now i'm confused blake wait i was i was here last week well i was pro i haven't seen blake i

00:01:05.620 haven't seen blake in like a month yeah yeah but he was yeah it was the two i realized that he was at

00:01:11.240 the nunnery but they kicked him out unfortunately not the vatican no he was everywhere did you go to

00:01:15.640 the vatican oh yeah he was in the tunnels no i've never been to the vatican he was in the tunnel

00:01:18.780 tunnels it's space we'll go together it's awesome no but tyler so we we had a whole thing we had a

00:01:24.460 whole thing about how apparently nobody knows what mischief night is if you're not from like the 0.98

00:01:28.860 philadelphia area okay so have you heard of mischief yeah of course that's the east coast thing yeah

00:01:32.740 exactly thank you but he's heard of it don't act like quite a heavy duty thing i know about it

00:01:37.720 lots of outright you know about because your wife i know about it because my wife's from new jersey

00:01:41.580 there you go boom and so mischief that's like a thing 100 don't we don't we have another name for it

00:01:46.820 you're devil's night you're an arizonan and you're a proud western boy and you have no idea 0.98

00:01:51.640 what mischief night is in arizona they didn't celebrate it but i remember when i when because

00:01:57.140 i lived in new jersey for two years i met my wife in junior high yeah and then we moved back to

00:02:01.080 arizona but she's from new jersey but mischief night's like a big freaking deal like like you 0.72

00:02:06.200 like you take it seriously it's like yes it's more serious than halloween it 100 and so what we

00:02:11.980 they don't make movies about mischief night well that's because it's local

00:02:16.800 but what i found out after the show that no one had told me this before that apparently

00:02:22.280 my grandmom used to participate in mischief night that so my aunt was telling us this story she was

00:02:28.320 like oh yeah like we would all we would all go down the low to the cornfield and we'd get a bunch

00:02:33.140 of corn and we'd we'd shuck it and we'd get the kernels and set them up into like bags and throw them

00:02:39.760 at the neighbor's houses up and down the block and i'm like nana was doing mischief night

00:02:44.800 now do you call her grandmom no no i called her nana but is that like another east coast thing

00:02:49.980 grandmom uh i had one i had one was grandmom and one was nana i don't know i just saw the map for

00:02:56.940 this this is crazy i wish i could drop this for you guys well apparently literally we talked about

00:03:01.400 last week that exact map last week oh you did the whole conversation i missed the map hold on we have

00:03:06.360 to go through so we're going to get to some seriously spicy topics today uh but we're going to

00:03:12.320 start with ebt of tiktok then we're going to get no no no no we're starting we're starting no we

00:03:16.220 got to start with we got to start with bollywood did bollywood oh bollywood okay so then but we are

00:03:21.080 going to talk about tucker and then talk about tucker because he's been he's been in the conversation

00:03:25.260 and everybody's asking us well what are you what about tucker what are your thoughts on tucker

00:03:28.840 and you know it's like we had an election all right we're going to focus on the election yep

00:03:33.660 but we have thoughts we have and this is thought crime so you're going to hear him

00:03:37.380 all right so then we're also going to talk about hijabs or bikini or burkini burkini yeah and we're

00:03:45.300 going to talk about mom donnie built nyc all this and more all right so let's get us started on the

00:03:50.500 first topic all right so like uh the let's just let's just start with the clip because so mom donnie

00:03:55.020 wins on on tuesday night and then that speech which i know we all watched i actually did watch it live

00:04:02.940 but there was something at the very end of his speech that happened play clip three three five

00:04:08.140 yeah

00:04:24.440 people are asking me if this is real no this is 100 real yeah 100 real can we hit the song guys

00:04:37.560 hit the song it's apparently a song from a 2004 bollywood movie there we go it's

00:04:44.520 like i feel like this is the the tyler that what could be more american than this

00:04:51.860 right like i have no association with this i have the same amount of association with this as most of

00:04:58.240 america does with mischief night yeah exactly so but blake i feel like you you've been making a lot

00:05:03.260 of points about the third worldism of it all right like how zoran's actual fundamental ideology is a

00:05:10.640 antagonism towards the west and antagonism towards whiteness europeanness whatever you want to call

00:05:16.600 it and this song just felt like a total i i heard it i was like blake's right yeah which is funny because

00:05:22.240 like the song is whatever it's like some bollywood thing no but it's very much is it very much is

00:05:27.620 that mam donnie himself does represent this like how to put i can't i can't think because it's like

00:05:37.640 mind he's the literal avatar of the gimme grins yeah yeah it's like the it's that it's sort of

00:05:43.460 this global ideology it spans ethnic groups it spans national origin to some extent even spans

00:05:50.660 like a lot of different sub-political ideologies it kind of it really is like a line and so

00:05:55.580 so you were talking you've been talking about that we've been talking about it pretty much the entire

00:05:59.860 campaign and that charlie obviously talked about it many times and this was so interesting was

00:06:06.400 zoran mandami talked about it when he got on stage yeah in and there were a lot of people van jones

00:06:12.180 included um who said wow this seems like a different zoran mandami it seems like he went full mask off

00:06:18.540 and it's like van you should just you should just listen to us andrew i know you guys have been

00:06:23.340 chatting a little bit um it's like you guys should literally just listen to us because we called it

00:06:28.880 and then he gets up there and he starts talking about the um was it the ethiopian aunties and the

00:06:34.420 bengali uh mexican line cooks and the abuelas and the the taxi driver and it's like no that's

00:06:41.400 literally what the right has been saying the entire time that he was going to do the entire time and it

00:06:46.800 was angry it was bitter it was resentful and it was just grievance politics for specific groups of

00:06:52.160 people targeted against other groups well you know it's funny aoc did a similar thing where she

00:06:56.120 rattled off all these like minority groups she happened to include i think irish and italians but it was 0.99

00:07:00.940 like it's complete fusionism it's complete it's complete uh intersectionality it's it's let's

00:07:08.400 unite the world's marginalized as they would say to fight whitey that's essentially how i interpret

00:07:13.700 is it true by the way that are are are all forks now banned in new york city has that gone through

00:07:19.020 or does that wait until january well while we talk about it too don't forget that the new lieutenant

00:07:24.300 governor of virginia is also a uh indian descent muslim as well first statewide elected official

00:07:31.960 ever female again first first muslim woman ever elected in the u.s for statewide office where was

00:07:39.820 this for virginia for virginia by the way i want to play this clip from gazala hashmi it's relevant

00:07:44.960 play cut 275 my family is back home in kenya and um how i see how things are going on like

00:07:54.080 um with um families being separated as a human being as a mother separating families especially 0.73

00:08:03.460 children from their mothers or fathers i don't believe in that so that made me come out and

00:08:11.380 also come and vote okay so she votes democrats we have an immigrant what that was jersey

00:08:17.960 yeah uh excuse me that was virginia yes voted for virginia democrat candidate abigail spamburger so 0.52

00:08:24.320 she votes for uh a democrat because she's an immigrant from she's a muslim immigrant from kenya 0.95

00:08:31.040 who doesn't like our immigration policies so then she votes for the democrat and let's let's get in 0.80

00:08:36.520 here because this this is kind of what it all comes down to play clip 274 new york will remain a city

00:08:44.360 of immigrants a city built by immigrants powered by immigrants

00:08:50.820 and as of tonight led by an immigrant

00:08:57.580 so this is the part that we we need to get into and this is this and of all the things here because

00:09:08.560 it's it's a city of immigrants agreed uh powered by immigrants at least today agreed

00:09:13.940 but was new york city built by immigrants wait do we have that picture of the famous um the workers

00:09:22.260 on the side the skyscraper building new york they looked like exactly exactly these that they these

00:09:28.320 are the type of guys that are listening to that music that i want to put that picture up with that

00:09:33.280 music playing because it's like and blake like just just walk me through this was new york city

00:09:38.860 built by immigrants in the way that he's referring i mean the freedom tower kind of was

00:09:44.480 man are you are you talking about whoa are you talking about one world trade center are you are you

00:09:53.340 talking about building wouldn't exist are you talking about the immigrant pilots yeah yeah immigrant 1.00

00:09:57.900 pilots the immigrant pilots of new york city yeah i think you know we have to we have to include all

00:10:04.080 possible you know immigrant sources all the immigrant stories of it's hey we're just telling

00:10:08.360 immigrant stories we're listening to immigrant voices like like like uh great new york immigrants like

00:10:12.840 uh muhammadatta yeah wow who was approved for flight school after he uh after he died yeah one one 0.90

00:10:20.340 flight hey only one flight but it went down in history yes exactly he might be in terms of time spent

00:10:25.260 piloting a plane to infamy he might be the most successful pilot of all time

00:10:31.000 jeez you know i just i just is that for you or for uh muhammadatta um that so i find his speech

00:10:42.640 really really infuriating we have let in so many immigrants and new york city has been the recipient 1.00

00:10:49.880 of so many immigrants that it is it no longer we don't control it americans do not control it 0.97

00:10:57.200 and he's just he's just spiking the football like a total jerk but we do i want to know how many

00:11:04.020 illegals voted in this election probably not i'm sure i need to be honest well new jersey by the way

00:11:09.340 like blake's opinion is like none mine is probably like you know uh percentage you know like the

00:11:16.800 madison square garden full i don't know somewhere it's it's somewhere in between that

00:11:20.320 i don't know i just don't i just don't think it's going to be that many and even if it wasn't

00:11:25.380 how many if you had to guess what about how many and by the way this is illegals but non-citizens

00:11:31.000 yeah not non-citizens and illegals so if you're so visas green cards okay that's fair fair i i should

00:11:36.920 have expanded out to all that that's what i meant yes non-citizens yeah i don't know maybe a few

00:11:41.140 hundred you think if only a few hundred the entire city of new york voted for mom donnie i mean why 0.54

00:11:47.560 are they going to want to like conceivably take that risk just so they can vote for ma'am donnie

00:11:51.700 because they don't care they don't care they've been told that they're totally fine

00:11:55.160 no plus voting for mom donnie they're not going to want like the trump administration to come in

00:11:59.980 and potentially arrest them for that that's the reason why they voted that's the reason why the

00:12:04.120 thing about it is a lot of illegal immigrants just don't even care about u.s elections that's a big 0.99

00:12:08.220 thing about them like even you know people who just are here from foreign countries very briefly

00:12:13.280 don't they're just not invested in american politics for the most part i feel like i feel

00:12:17.700 like this is a great task for the civil rights division at the doj 100 to identify i think yeah

00:12:26.120 i mean that's the thing you can do while we're talking about bollywood send in the doj and feel

00:12:30.120 free to indict every single person who illegally voted because who voted as a public record

00:12:33.980 i think harmeet dylan is the is the right woman for the job she should move forward on identify 0.85

00:12:39.900 how many 100 we should arrest everyone who votes illegally we should indict and arrest everyone

00:12:44.900 who votes illegally all right especially because they're the sort of community that you know when 0.63

00:12:48.940 you go after james comey james comey is going to be able to have like a ton of lawyers and he's

00:12:54.180 ready to like fight a big legal throwdown but if if you're correct and thousands of people cast

00:12:59.880 illegal ballots you can totally indict a huge number of them and it's both expensive to try

00:13:05.480 to defend all of them and it will like put the fear of god in these immigrant communities who mostly 0.65

00:13:10.660 like again the pr campaign of that would be huge the pr campaign if you could highlight it yeah would

00:13:16.620 be like don't do this and and again even if it's hundreds to your point which is like i you're in like

00:13:23.360 the the most conservative position on that right probably not like conservative big c but like

00:13:29.760 little c yeah is that it's hundreds hundreds of people getting in big trouble for this is a big

00:13:35.560 deal so i would i would say go ahead and do that if that's the case but i don't i get i guess i get

00:13:40.760 annoyed because it's often a sort of automatic take from the right that they just assume this is

00:13:45.220 happening and i would just say if it is that obvious you also can't assume that it's not the

00:13:49.160 automatic take from the right is that it's enough to flip the election i agree with your sentiment

00:13:54.200 it's probably not this election not enough to flip this election but how many down ballot races does

00:13:59.340 this type of thing end up impacting in other elections before we get too far off topic so yes

00:14:05.220 investigate it but i do want to i do want to get back on topic a little bit and guys i want to throw

00:14:11.500 a picture and andrew i want to get your sense of this throw a picture 337

00:14:15.420 these are the people the studio loves this yeah these are the guys who build america and no they

00:14:26.020 weren't listening to this type of music they might have been certainly they might have been

00:14:30.380 and certainly the here's here's what i want to explain though they were certainly the people

00:14:35.960 who built new york city and the skyscrapers there is a fundamental difference between the people who

00:14:42.060 came as settlers the people who came as colonists and the people who are coming to use blake's phrase

00:14:48.320 as the gimmigrants as the people who are coming to take from the society that mamdani specifically 0.97

00:14:56.560 stated was and is his political agenda which will be the next political agenda going forward

00:15:01.940 and i'm not gonna by the way if if new york wasn't built by european settlers why is it called that

00:15:08.080 why is it called that yeah like it's literally called new york which and and blake i believe york at

00:15:14.100 one point was the capital of england uh it was the capital of one of the kingdoms i think one of

00:15:18.840 the king northumbria yeah yeah so but like london wasn't always the capital it got sacked by the

00:15:23.780 vikings and they uh took the king and they carved a blood eagle on him that was the normans right

00:15:27.820 uh no no the vikings did this is way back in like viking aging okay so the norman conquest wasn't

00:15:33.240 1066 okay the vikings came as early in the 1700s 700s yeah yeah yeah okay so but anyways listen

00:15:40.800 here's the deal uh my take on this is you know and actually blake i think you circulated this it

00:15:46.880 was a sub stack it was really interesting and if you really want the full picture america was settled

00:15:53.940 by mostly anglos right and there was a lot of pushback to some of the immigrant classes that came

00:16:03.300 the poles the italians the irish all this stuff and they there was concern and actually

00:16:10.420 there are movies about this a lot of the mystique of america being built uh being a nation of

00:16:15.820 immigrants came out of that wave and it actually changed the way the nation talked about itself 1.00

00:16:20.840 and there was concern even about letting in those cultures now we know in retrospect they

00:16:26.480 assimilated very well because they happen to be mostly european mostly christian no even then

00:16:30.840 even then it actually like it needed a big lift to do it so what the lift was world war one

00:16:36.740 and in the aftermath we basically quite aggressively cracked down on vestigial uh non-assimilated elements

00:16:45.820 of a lot of european immigrants to the u.s so there used to be a lot of german language newspapers a lot

00:16:51.460 of german language stuff i was gonna say and we had the anti-german frenzy in world war one and

00:16:56.240 stamped that out and so you know i grew up in a place with a lot of germans no one knows german in

00:17:01.060 the dakotas and then you would have people like it didn't and the british royal family actually like

00:17:05.200 changed their name they changed their name they were they were pretty fully assimilated but they

00:17:09.200 it was german this substack basically makes the case that it's semi-miraculous that we were able to

00:17:14.980 to assimilate these people because of the greatness of america but also these huge cataclysmic events

00:17:21.620 like world war one and world war two but it did end up creating this narrative that america is a nation

00:17:27.500 of immigrants which made way for the 19th the heart cell uh uh yeah yeah exactly so which which then 1.00

00:17:34.060 gave them a a foothold to say hey we're just a nation of immigrants and so it doesn't matter where

00:17:39.200 you're from well that's not at all how we got from point a to point b point a was we're anglo we don't

00:17:43.960 want italians and irish and poles then it was like well we just defeated the nazis and saved the

00:17:49.480 western world so i guess they're cool now and we're all one nation and everybody's like well we did it

00:17:54.700 once we can do it again but here's the thing you went you that's like three standard deviations from

00:17:58.920 like assimilating european christians and catholics to oh we can have somebody like zoramandani who's

00:18:05.760 a muslim from uganda slash indian descent yeah hit the song to me the most important thing about it is

00:18:11.720 just that he ran pretty aggressively on and overtly on what you might call you know race communism where

00:18:20.040 he's going to say the objective of my administration is to target people who are white

00:18:25.980 you can't leave out the fact that where did he hold his i mean i don't know if these were rallies but

00:18:31.300 they were his last public appearances right before the election that on saturday night and sunday night

00:18:36.180 in new york city what what were those clubs again by the way those those clubs that he was appearing at

00:18:41.100 the alf what did he go a gay club the abc club yes that's pretty funny okay yeah like one here it is 0.96

00:18:46.700 campaigning at gay clubs yeah here it is b rolls up uh this is zoran at the gay club at one one o'clock

00:18:54.740 gosh yeah that is i have a two you know we do bring it up but like you know it's it's an important

00:19:00.100 thing where we bring up that you know we'll call him the you know foreign the muslim socialist but like

00:19:07.040 the islam part is actually not a core part of his identity no way this is not part of like the way

00:19:12.540 it was part of muhammad this is why yeah this is why calling him a jihadist is kind of washed but i

00:19:17.180 mean yeah it's kind of played out is that really obviously not yes it is he identifies as muslim to

00:19:23.700 the extent that he wants to show he is basically not american right he's not american using it as an

00:19:28.700 i'm not american part of his ideology and he says this on stage he's like he's like he's like i am a

00:19:34.460 muslim and make sure it's like make sure to pronounce it that way uh rob finnerty and i

00:19:39.060 it's like the old snl skit where anytime you talk about like whenever we're talking about latin america

00:19:43.520 they suddenly have to have these weird fake accents no no yeah finnerty was just talking about this

00:19:48.780 the other night and i came on and i was like i was like uh yeah uh yeah it's broadcasting from

00:19:55.300 managua yeah yeah it's yeah it's cool and i'm like and he's like you know and it's just like it's

00:20:01.940 it's ridiculous it's completely ridiculous so so yeah that's that's new york city and i think we

00:20:07.600 need to and just to just to put a pin on this because i do want to get to some of these other

00:20:11.400 topics and we did promise a little bit of a spicy topic that we do need to fight for the story of

00:20:16.800 who actually built america's cities and who actually built america's greatness and no it was not like

00:20:24.180 just this sort of vague all immigrants built america story like that's just it's just wrong and it's

00:20:31.720 led to bad policy exactly that's why i brought up bad outcomes that's why i brought up that sub

00:20:36.660 stack is because we changed the myth the story that we told ourselves as a nation after that first

00:20:44.140 wave of early it was late 19th but mostly early 20th century uh wave of of immigrants so spot on and 0.86

00:20:51.500 when we did that we fundamentally changed the the character of the country now we were able to

00:20:56.240 assimilate but but listen that is one thing this is entirely another and to just continually say to

00:21:02.620 ourselves we can keep assimilating and and keep a nation i think is a is a is a fool's errand but

00:21:09.480 this is what this is when you talk about the myths that we tell the story reclaiming the story this is

00:21:13.620 jennifer welch to metty hassan at zoran's victory party saying you know if it was all white people in

00:21:19.700 here right now it would be boring and americans have no culture except multiculturalism yeah show

00:21:23.640 play it 338

00:21:25.200 it's actually like that's actually a truly

00:21:54.840 despicable thing and they say this a lot yeah like white people have no culture no like screw

00:22:00.040 you i could say a stronger word here except you know the spirit of charlie would smite me

00:22:03.660 like screw you for saying that no europeans actually have a tremendous amount of culture

00:22:08.280 americans have a tremendous amount of culture to the extent that they say this it's because like

00:22:14.100 these awful people come in and like demean them deny they like have any sort of cultural status

00:22:20.920 as a way to justify dispossessing and displacing them hey guess what there's culture that isn't 0.81

00:22:26.640 just like whatever slop you guys eat that you call like your national cuisine that was probably

00:22:30.880 still invented by a freaking european anyway a lot of it was yeah yeah chicken tikka masala

00:22:36.040 chicken tikka masala invented in edinburgh salmon sushi invented by norwegians actually i saw like it's

00:22:41.360 really good so many of these things like oh wow like it just it's disgusting it's actively

00:22:45.740 disgusting and not the least yes it was yeah and not the least i want to go to edinburgh now

00:22:50.500 yeah i mean it's just you know it's like they do this a lot where austria has the best

00:22:59.740 middle eastern cuisine all right hold on and beyond that and beyond that it's like the united states of

00:23:04.540 america the nation that gave us rock music hollywood the nation that gave us mark twain the nation that

00:23:13.200 gave us you know stories like paul bunyan the nation that gave us daniel boone the nation that

00:23:18.120 gave us davy crockett the alamo infinity number things we don't have a culture nation that gave us

00:23:23.860 country music the blues the blues jazz and we just have this song where white people don't have a 0.96

00:23:30.360 culture no like flip the bird to those people go off king absolutely absolutely violent but guys no

00:23:36.560 it's not really a culture unless i can make some like obnoxious like instagram post about being

00:23:42.300 immersed in like blake it's not really a culture unless you have a different name for your

00:23:45.600 grandmother that's like not an english word it's not really a culture unless you have an abuela or

00:23:51.740 whatever like no i mean so so let's let's let's just look at this guys because i know we i know we

00:23:56.380 got a segue into our spicy topics but it's it's it's really simple as this we can have god bless america

00:24:02.040 we could have god bless the usa or we can have

00:24:05.600 i thought you were gonna go with like ala akbar or something yeah yeah i mean it's really disgusting

00:24:13.600 i mean the the amount of self-loathing that uh liberal white america has 1.4 billion people i

00:24:19.280 mean written one song and made one movie but this is really simple though this is just like that you

00:24:23.860 talk about the cities that were built in america the ingenuity the actual cultures that that came

00:24:31.260 together to build what was initial they don't care about any of that they're just going to knock it

00:24:36.040 all down and start over and replace it with the fall of rome i mean it's just like you go through

00:24:40.960 these european cities you see it like these and again i just brought up austria like you go to vienna

00:24:46.080 vienna is a beautiful city has a ton of historic nature to it uh but you can tell very rapidly the places

00:24:52.620 that have been defaced and replaced with middle eastern uh influence that they've completely rebuilt

00:25:00.460 over the top and all the austrians have moved out and that those are the cultures that have moved in

00:25:06.780 and they don't care and obviously they're going to eliminate and eradicate all the historic elements

00:25:12.840 that were there that and that's going to be just tread underneath their feet yeah that's what's

00:25:16.560 going to happen and new york is and by the way there's way more preservation of history in my opinion

00:25:21.740 in these european cities than america has america has no culture of of historic of historic

00:25:27.840 preservation in fact we've eradicated our own history in most cases with gothic architecture

00:25:34.520 and everything else we have some art deco we have some no but we like he's talking about like new york

00:25:40.140 city tearing down no not even new york city i'm talking about like the midwest the terminal think

00:25:44.200 about some of the places in the midwest kansas city yes they they leveled all of the originating

00:25:50.820 architecture that was there chicago had a ton of this it was eliminated milwaukee actually still has some

00:25:57.480 up that you can but like so you can see some of this in milwaukee like when we had the rnc last

00:26:02.000 year tanya and the kids went over to like them it's just like the milwaukee library yeah and it's

00:26:07.340 just this it's like a cathedral gothic it's gothic it's amazing you know we can puncture we can like

00:26:12.840 and it's like go through the elephant in the room a lot of american urban culture was wiped out because

00:26:16.940 we had white flight in the 60s because of the last time libs got like total cultural domination 1.00

00:26:22.200 and they decided to quadruple the crime rate overnight and have riots run everywhere so

00:26:27.280 people had to leave you know when it happens in other countries it's called ethnic cleansing when

00:26:32.480 that happens but i guess in america it was just like i guess the people who left were bad because

00:26:36.720 they didn't want to be murdered like we've literally we've literally done an entire podcast

00:26:40.180 yeah like you go to you go to detroit and it's just like oh there's all these beautiful abandoned

00:26:43.260 homes and all the people just had to leave i guess so i mean i i experienced this in in a very

00:26:49.020 small way in my hometown where you know you know ethnic whites you know italian irish and polish

00:26:55.640 like myself and section eight came in and crime came in and then it became a sanctuary city which

00:27:01.400 they still want to do remember big left-wing idea and this is you know right outside philadelphia

00:27:06.140 and they just they blockbusting obviously was a huge part of that and that's that's almost exactly

00:27:12.280 what happened to my family where this this tight-knit not like a working-class area but tight-knit

00:27:18.000 great great architecture yeah wait and while we're on this topic because i think you're gonna

00:27:21.460 have one of the largest jewish populations in the united states if i was king of the world i would

00:27:26.460 force america to have to you only had three options for architectural styles art deco in the

00:27:33.820 major cities neoclassical or gothic that's it colonial no no you can have more there's there's other

00:27:41.580 styles and houses every how every town should have its queen and revival those like the fun like

00:27:47.380 houses that have like the little turrets and stuff but that being said blake's got a point though

00:27:51.240 because if you you just keep importing people from parts of the world that have no care about that

00:27:57.520 whatsoever you're just going to get the extended favela so what's interesting of india or um like

00:28:03.900 brazil or whatever all right we have to commit to going to the next topic here but i will say what's

00:28:09.280 interesting and i've never thought about it i have thought about it but i've never articulated before

00:28:12.800 is that even white flight blake have you ever noticed that they it's been it's your whole life

00:28:18.360 it's been talked about as if it was like the white people's like they get judged yeah it's their

00:28:22.300 white people are bad everything everything i know it was all things are white so and and by the way 0.90

00:28:27.060 as a great as a great segue um when i appeared on tucker's tour last year in pennsylvania he specifically

00:28:34.500 asked me to tell my story and where we did that in writing pennsylvania which was pretty much you know

00:28:40.600 like 20 25 minutes from where i grew up so the whole you know everyone in the area is we're in

00:28:45.360 the northeast and everyone in the area knew what i was talking about and knew about these different

00:28:48.860 um these different trends and these different pressures that we were all experiencing about how

00:28:53.960 we completely just blew up these communities and like i lived in a town where the people on my block

00:29:01.560 were uh were all the you know all the adults on my block were the people that my father had played

00:29:07.580 with his kids when he grew up on the same block so like i grew up in the same house that my father

00:29:11.960 grew up in and and that his sisters grew up in and that we had had for it was built in 1901 and this

00:29:19.700 was like beautiful wood architecture uh tyler we had stained glass sliding doors in our dining room so

00:29:26.380 cool and that was like i still want to go back and buy them actually because i drive by the house a lot

00:29:30.640 and tucker brought this up to say hey look you know this is not like a an approved topic but it's

00:29:38.580 something that happened to a lot of people and it's like and i've talked like jeremy carl like i've talked

00:29:44.620 to jeremy carl about this and he's like i totally get where you're coming from with your politics because

00:29:49.880 you just want to get your hometown back like that's and that's really all it boils down to for me yeah it's

00:29:55.360 like they took from me some like i always define success as like you know not like the amount of

00:30:00.900 dollars in my bank account or whatever it was just like having a nicer house in the in my hometown

00:30:06.240 like you know what i mean like that was being successful yeah the amount of cultural displacement

00:30:10.720 that's happened uh you know it's interesting if you get a city that gentrifies right a lot of money

00:30:16.800 comes in this happened in the 90s early 2000s because oh we got tough on crime and so investment came

00:30:23.100 back in money came back in prices went up there was a there was so much ink spilled books written

00:30:29.640 about cultural displacement for urban the urban minorities right during that time yeah but when

00:30:34.620 the shoe was on the other foot and white communities get displaced because of crime that is expanding 0.84

00:30:40.740 outward into uh white neighborhoods or ethnic white neighborhoods like you grew up in philly 0.85

00:30:45.320 there's zero compassion on that cultural experience there's zero acknowledgement that bad policy has led to

00:30:52.900 more violent neighborhoods and and run down uh degraded neighborhoods and and i think it's a shame

00:30:58.600 but anyways tucker carlson tucker and so yeah so tucker so yeah i'll set the stage so so and and look

00:31:05.280 you know that that was kind of my segue point was that was that of all the things that you know i was

00:31:09.540 expecting to talk about on you know on a live it was a live podcast but also a live show uh huge stadium

00:31:16.340 uh santander arena in in redding absolutely sold out and tucker's like i just want you to talk about

00:31:21.620 your hometown i'm like really i'm okay sure you know and and um and so i did and so getting into

00:31:29.220 the tucker question um you know i think that's what tucker is all about and and he's obviously you know

00:31:35.420 always wants to get in find new stories and find new things to talk about and he obviously has been

00:31:41.300 no stranger to controversy and he has had a lot of controversy this week or i should say there's been

00:31:46.880 controversy about him uh because of a particular interview um he had nick fuentes on a couple i guess

00:31:53.880 it's a couple of weeks ago at this point or it was last week um i'm not sure exactly recently and um

00:31:58.620 and a lot of people have been saying should he have had him on is he ruining the world is the sky

00:32:03.160 falling because he did an interview uh tucker's had obviously people who are considered controversial

00:32:07.700 before he's had vladimir putin on he's had uh i think um lavrov on as well he's in just it's kind

00:32:14.980 of his job so um you know this was going around and a lot of people were saying oh you guys got a

00:32:19.620 comment you guys got a comment and i was like no there's an election actually i'm going to focus on

00:32:23.540 that we should probably explain to people what we're reacting to and and and but no no well this is

00:32:28.480 my setup to say okay but now the election is over and so let's talk about it so blake you what are

00:32:34.700 we talking about so blake as a former you know what is the thought crime statement no no not even

00:32:38.920 what's the thought crime statement but like i'm not sure everyone even knows what we're referring

00:32:42.200 to with tucker necessarily why don't you explain it blake what i just mentioned i've got to explain

00:32:45.680 it oh wouldn't you you're good at explaining how about tyler explains it wait you're you're like is

00:32:52.040 there is there i'm not i'm is there i'm preparing for this topic no i'm serious is there something

00:32:57.740 other than him having nick on like that's well it's the way the interview was conducted i will tell

00:33:02.300 you that that's part of it right that's part of it a lot of people feel it was too soft a lot of

00:33:07.740 people are upset okay so just for those who aren't paying attention and now we're going to break because

00:33:12.040 tucker carlson had nicholas fuentes on his show he had him out to maine uh obviously fuentes had a

00:33:19.280 quite long and uh one-sided obsession with our boss i believe our you know our late boss and so that's

00:33:28.780 colored it a lot and it's also just colored another way so it's actually for those who aren't

00:33:33.120 following it online it's had this sort of thunderous aftermath i can give some background here sure with

00:33:38.760 that to like lean into that i mean the reality is nick has a bunch of followers that they call

00:33:43.660 themselves gripers they uh largely are young men if we could say that it's not all men but it's

00:33:51.320 largely young men uh many have had some kind of interaction with turning point in a negative way

00:33:58.500 and in in most cases i would say uh do not feel warmly invited mainly around the israel issue because

00:34:08.560 turning point historically has been a pro-israel organization and a lot of these young men their

00:34:13.980 single issue if if you could say there's a single issue is you know their uh distrust or just outright

00:34:23.140 hatred for the state of israel is that that that's like yeah yeah that's basically and then and then

00:34:29.020 you have a number of other layered things on top of that which are you know some some issues on uh

00:34:35.560 on race well i mean things like that that nick has been it's been vitriolic towards charlie he's been

00:34:40.740 very open about it he said nasty things about erica he's been really nasty about um yeah israel he's

00:34:48.260 been nasty to tucker actually they've they've gotten to their own spat and i think people were expecting

00:34:53.480 njd i think they were i think they were expecting uh this to be a much more contentious interview is is

00:35:00.860 is one of the main i wasn't expecting that because that's just not what tucker would do i wanted to pull

00:35:05.420 up um and i i didn't want to i know we didn't pull it because but i i know charlie wasn't talked

00:35:11.100 about a lot but i do think they mentioned him a little bit in the you know in there and then the

00:35:17.140 other thing i think i think we're in the context of violence and and i do want to make this clear

00:35:21.080 there was a lot of pushback because tucker said essentially that he just i think the exact quote

00:35:29.280 was he despised christian zionist and then so that was a huge a huge bone of contention for

00:35:36.760 the evangelical community especially the dispensationalists that uh believe that you

00:35:42.860 know the current nation state of israel is you know prophetically foretold of in scriptures and that

00:35:49.160 they do represent sort of a um a very important prophetic you know timeline piece the the current

00:35:56.660 nation state of israel to you know god's ultimate plan for humanity right so so so you've got this

00:36:02.380 whole dynamic going on i want to say that tucker ended up going on dave smith's podcast and walked

00:36:07.000 that back the his just that he despises christians walk it back he apologized he apologized he said i

00:36:12.800 apologize what i was upset about what he said was he was upset that there was bombings of christian

00:36:18.660 churches in gaza and that people did not apologize that he feels they were intentional um and obviously

00:36:25.080 israel i think he said that he he i'm just not like i'm not taking this i don't i'm just trying

00:36:30.500 to quote it that he was saying that he thought that christian leaders weren't outspoken about that

00:36:35.260 enough yeah and i'm gonna i'm gonna i think i have the exact quote it says but at the same time he

00:36:40.700 did fully apologize i really regret saying that i didn't fully mean it i said it because i was mad

00:36:46.800 which is when i say i don't really mean when i get pissed my wife's tell always telling me this i was

00:36:53.880 snippy and i didn't explain it and i said something to the effect that i despise christian zionists and

00:36:58.900 i'm just sorry that i said that because i don't uh i was just mad at a certain kind of thinking some

00:37:03.800 of the nicest people i know are christian zionists actually you know if you're in a car crash they 1.00

00:37:07.760 would save you if you needed someone to watch your bank account they wouldn't steal from you

00:37:11.200 there were like really good people and sweet people so he tried to do it and then he clarifies

00:37:15.520 that he was upset about the church bombings in gaza that more christian leaders weren't calling it out

00:37:19.120 yeah so i mean blake i think you said it really well and i hate to keep putting you on the spot

00:37:26.340 here but you you have a you have a history with tucker and that's why i think there's you know i

00:37:32.520 don't want to say you're being cynical or something but you're just you didn't have high hopes for it

00:37:36.140 no so it's like i mean when you watch it you kind of it basically went as i about expected it to

00:37:44.280 it wasn't 100 friendly he does if you watch the whole interview it's about two hours long i think

00:37:50.960 uh he does at some point you know he questions nick like okay you seem to sort of have a

00:37:56.320 somewhat hate-based ideology or like he he kind of paints entire groups all the same way uh

00:38:05.380 and you know he pushes him a bit on that but at the same time it's nick he has a pretty long history

00:38:11.580 he's been online a long time there's a lot of clips as they might say and you don't need to like

00:38:16.840 nitpick every single thing because it is true some of what he says is clearly just attempting to be

00:38:22.060 transgressive comedic funny actually some of the wildest stuff people obsess about when he says like

00:38:28.480 he loves hitler or whatever a lot of that is even in that vein but there's still a lot of stuff that

00:38:34.920 you know you could you could talk about so you're having nick fuentes on who among other things is

00:38:39.220 famous for this long-running feud with charlie kirk well nick fuentes within the past month

00:38:44.560 basically said you know everyone's thinking this you know erica kirk looks extremely happy that her 0.96

00:38:49.640 husband's dead this is what everyone's thinking everyone's talking about it okay i i know erica i

00:38:56.300 don't think she's happy that her husband died i think that's a pretty i think it's a pretty

00:38:59.680 hurtful thing terrible thing to say i think that's a hurtful thing to say and i'm a little i'm a

00:39:05.200 little disappointed tucker didn't bring that up or push him on that you know why why did you say

00:39:09.600 that nick why why did you say that about a woman whose husband was just murdered why did you yeah

00:39:15.600 and i think he just didn't he didn't ask about that he didn't ask about some of the stuff he said

00:39:20.580 about jd vance and i think more broadly he let especially in the early part he definitely just

00:39:27.660 seeded the stage for nick to give his narrative of his life where basically i'm just a normal america

00:39:34.800 first guy and then the jews just were constantly messing with me and sabotaging me whether it was 0.99

00:39:40.180 ben shapiro or various other people which several of those people came out and said his narrative

00:39:44.560 was a misleading self-aggrandizing lie i don't know the truth about it i'm not obsessed with his history

00:39:50.300 but he basically just kind of let him tell that and it's clear tucker approved of that narrative that

00:39:56.180 basically he was buying into oh yeah those darn jews just came in and messed with nick because he you know 0.77

00:40:03.740 wanted to have america first foreign policy okay i i think there's probably a few other things he did

00:40:10.080 that made people not like nick or dig into okay nick you have a lot of burned former colleagues who

00:40:18.160 don't like you for this reason there's like weird things where people say he has like a lot of

00:40:21.840 associations with like outright sex predators and stuff you could get into a lot of that you could get

00:40:26.880 into well even like the stalin clip i a lot of yeah or the stalin thing he just says he kind of

00:40:32.600 throws out like oh i love stalin the stalin why don't we pause and pick at that you know tucker you 0.98

00:40:36.940 picked at ted cruz because he didn't know enough he didn't know enough facts about iran that could we

00:40:42.700 pick at nicolas for saying he loves a guy who killed tens of millions of people possibly millions of 0.93

00:40:49.180 christians including them when we care about the fate of christians here or do they only matter when

00:40:54.380 they're in gaza the stalin thing really bothered me because i think that accentuated that there was

00:40:58.440 like a overlooking of like it created the look of the scene when it happens is that he had an

00:41:06.560 environment where he wanted to only mildly question fuentes and then he was caught off guard when fuentes

00:41:11.860 said something that was really freaking out and he's like i listened to the whole uh both this

00:41:17.900 interview and when tucker was on dave smith and and i think tucker also mentions this on dave smith and

00:41:23.280 just and he i'm trying to remember this from memory but he sort of said like i was caught so off guard

00:41:28.220 that i i wish i had said something and and that he didn't so he did actually yeah but i've seen but

00:41:33.500 we've all seen tucker on yeah no i'm not disputing that i'm just saying that we've seen tucker and

00:41:39.880 again maybe his frame of mind was he was being his friend i can totally buy that his frame of mind is

00:41:44.800 like he's giving this guy a shot and he really believes he's extremely talented and that maybe his

00:41:50.760 outreach can guide him to a better more tucker like version of nick fuentes and honestly yeah i

00:41:58.960 hate even spending this much time on on it but i and there's a part of me that thinks that that was

00:42:05.280 like his goal and i'm not agreeing with that i'm just saying i think that that that was kind of the

00:42:09.200 goal because i'm because of that whole stalin situation and again i'm not i'm not saying

00:42:15.200 that's okay i'm not saying that like that's what i would have done charlie wouldn't have done that

00:42:19.040 yeah like you want the tucker who's like excuse me stalin yeah like what yeah like what are you 0.84

00:42:24.460 talking about like i would kill tens of millions of people including millions of christians like how 0.95

00:42:27.920 could how could you ideological christian priests how could your how could your ideological centering

00:42:33.400 be around stalin and explain that to us like where the point you come from because i think actually

00:42:38.700 that uh epitomizes and i i think if if if the guy was here right now he would tell you the same thing

00:42:44.640 part of his ideology is he agrees with an authoritarian you know slightly communist version of whatever his

00:42:54.640 current worldview is and that's part of the reason why he thinks so greatly of him and and again that

00:43:00.240 and again i know that that's not that's not tucker's worldview i know that that's not his

00:43:05.840 position tucker and i actually do buy that he was probably so caught off guard by that and his head

00:43:10.460 space was in another place entirely probably what you were saying that he was trying to but it shows

00:43:15.300 that he doesn't really know who this guy is and what that that movement is we've gotten to know that

00:43:19.260 movement and again like we know they exist in the aura of whatever right but we totally disagree

00:43:26.360 with like the whole there's a whole communist faction that's underlying with a lot of these guys

00:43:31.540 that are outright communists that think that like the 1917 revolution is great and we saw elements of

00:43:37.880 this come out which by the way um uh what's his name and by the way that's hassan piker said that at

00:43:44.240 the mondani um uh victory party he was talking about how he actually said i wish the united states had

00:43:50.900 not defeated the soviet union and so we i do we know that although i don't i don't think that all

00:43:58.240 kids realize they're signing up for that when they follow these guys and again i think that there's an

00:44:02.900 element here where maybe like maybe tucker's not totally aware of that existence but i think he is

00:44:07.780 now i think people should be now they should be aware that there's a whole communist angle to that

00:44:14.740 entire movement that we totally disagree with and that there's nothing there that you could possibly

00:44:20.160 ever commend well and i do want to also that's the reality of for me like ideologically is that

00:44:25.660 i mean i studied i mean that's our connection i studied soviet era politics there's so much

00:44:31.280 intrinsically evil and communist ideology that it to me it's like kind of messing with ghosts yeah it's

00:44:37.780 like was that a joke it's like it's like messing with the ouija board to me really mean that it's

00:44:41.540 like you messing with communist ideology is like messing with the ouija board because it's a it's a hard

00:44:46.260 in the interest in the interest of just fairness um so the only time that i think charlie came up at

00:44:53.020 all a few time which which were a few times three or four times in it and i'm going through the

00:44:56.900 transcript right now um you know it's it's it's them speaking out against violence it's it's nick

00:45:04.560 saying that never should have happened that that charlie was a conservative guy relative moderate he's not

00:45:09.780 a politician you know he he got shot and then a hundred thousand liberals went on tiktok and

00:45:14.360 celebrated and then how can you you know integrate or harmonize with that so i mean he was talking

00:45:19.140 about violence which is what said that was it that was nick okay and then so you hear you know so

00:45:24.680 which does make the solid thing like you're like wait what does that mean and he even said that um

00:45:29.720 they they actually had a really good part where they were talking about and you know i say good in

00:45:36.780 relative terms but i i thought it was it was good that this narrative got out that when they were

00:45:41.640 talking about tyler robinson and talking about some of these new revelations which we haven't even

00:45:45.660 done on thought crime yet of the discord messages and um some of the there's like this leaker now in

00:45:51.660 the tyler robinson um you know yeah you sent that link where and and they mentioned this so they're

00:45:57.220 mentioning the lsd use they're mentioning the the weed use the drug use um the discords the uh chat gpt

00:46:04.560 uh obsession of the roommate in this this is the transgender boyfriend um in in all of it and so

00:46:12.740 they you know it wasn't like a long time they were talking about it but um you know he what did he say

00:46:18.620 so i got the transcript again here you know this this psychoactive substances make believe reality of

00:46:23.560 the internet totally disconnected from the real world and i think they enter into this delusional state

00:46:28.240 i think that's where the shooter in minneapolis i think that if tyler and and if tyler robinson is found

00:46:32.840 guilty there's these interesting screenshots about him and his transgender boyfriend it's the same

00:46:37.360 story there if that's true i'd imagine it's not dissimilar with the guy who showed up and um you

00:46:42.220 know and he's talking about the time there was a guy who tried to uh you know allegedly tried to kill

00:46:46.780 nick as well was you know was in kind of one of these like almost fugue states and was talking so they

00:46:51.720 were talking about political violence right they were talking about political violence and being

00:46:54.620 extremely against it and you know obviously that's what you know makes the solemn comment weird but

00:47:00.040 that was the only time they brought up charlie directly in the whole interview yeah well

00:47:04.500 listen i times yeah i mean sorry were you okay good i'm not i'm not cutting anybody off but there

00:47:10.280 was i just want to point out that they did actually discuss tyler robinson kind of in depth yeah and i

00:47:14.660 just want to say something as well though too is that the and we should talk more about that because

00:47:21.160 the radicalization elements and the drug use and this leaker is like actually a big development

00:47:24.920 but i i would say that you know here you know i saw a lot of people like on social media but

00:47:30.340 basically sharing a speaker graphic from before charlie even died of amfest is the amfest one yeah

00:47:37.240 yeah because charlie's still on it with tucker and charlie's still on it and and everybody's like

00:47:41.260 you know all these people that now hate tucker are like you're disgrace you you what you have done

00:47:46.660 what you've done is disgrace and i'm like you how are we disgracing charlie's like this is charlie's

00:47:51.740 graphic that he published when he was alive and you're acting like we've somehow done something

00:47:57.880 to disgrace charlie and i will tell you one other thing though charlie i'm sure would have been

00:48:02.680 disappointed with aspects of that interview probably that it even happened okay but i will tell you this

00:48:08.400 if if you put charlie against a corner and you tried to back him up against a wall he would defy any

00:48:16.060 any moral blackmail that you can imagine it was the one thing that i saw time and time and time again

00:48:21.720 from charlie especially in the last couple of years like when you tried to coerce him or control him or

00:48:26.640 emotionally manipulate him like he would have defied the heck out of you just to defy you and not be

00:48:32.400 controlled by 100 and i cannot reiterate what what andrew is saying enough and i know we all agree with

00:48:38.400 this but i just want to reiterate this i don't always agree with any i mean you're you get married

00:48:45.720 to people you don't always agree with them right like you're clearly not always going to agree with

00:48:48.900 everything that comes out of tucker's mouth we don't agree with everything that comes out of

00:48:52.560 everyone's mouth that we invite to america fest and that speak or that work with us that doesn't mean

00:48:58.260 that they're not they still can't be your friend and tucker was a friend to charlie charlie was a friend

00:49:04.360 to tucker and you know where it goes from here you know tucker could change his entire mantra and

00:49:13.040 everything else right but there is still always going to exist a friendship and a memory that exists

00:49:19.880 with those two gentlemen and we are way too close to the death of charlie kirk to be flying off the

00:49:28.800 handles and and and and and making you know preconceived notions about people and where

00:49:37.220 their heads at and again that that's not to say that you're not going to disagree with him more

00:49:42.120 later on or you're not going to or that you're always going to be in the same place that you were

00:49:47.540 the day that charlie was taken off this earth it was taken from us but you're always going to have

00:49:53.140 that same bond that exists there and that respect that everyone should have mutually respecting

00:49:59.860 anyone that loved charlie that much and that charlie loved you know equally because again blake's

00:50:06.360 worked for the man has vocally disagreed with him in in this segment that we're talking about

00:50:12.360 you could still have all that exist yeah i think you're the only one who worked for both actually

00:50:16.580 and i want to say this is just in this finish with this is just he might be the only one exists you

00:50:20.960 can honor charlie's life by honoring that relationship and it doesn't necessarily mean

00:50:27.480 you have to agree we've gotten questions we get emails about this and i respond to some of them

00:50:31.460 where i just say like i mean charlie faced a lot of pressure to de-platform tucker a lot and he

00:50:38.560 consistently pushed back on that and i don't know how charlie would have reacted to this nick interview

00:50:44.160 in this world where it happens while he's still around which could plausibly have happened i think

00:50:49.720 uh i don't know how he would have reacted to that but we know how he responded to other things that

00:50:54.100 made people pressure him and i'll be honest i think charlie probably would not have liked this

00:50:58.700 interview no that took her i think i would agree quite annoyed with it yeah he would have been

00:51:02.360 annoyed with it on several levels um there's no there's actually really no doubt about it yeah

00:51:07.320 yeah basically yeah no doubt he would have been really upset about yeah he had been annoyed that

00:51:10.580 it happened and a bit more annoyed at like the nature of how it unfolded yeah less less so that it

00:51:14.940 happened probably than than than the the tone and tenor of it yeah exactly but but then the question

00:51:20.280 the the second aspect of this is would it have risen to the level of what all of these you know this

00:51:29.080 this like you know caterwauling cacophony of whatever you know greek choir saying now turning

00:51:35.660 point must do this now turning point must do this this is a good point because it kind of reminds me of

00:51:41.980 the underlying issue itself which is israel and i say this time and again it's like the world wants

00:51:47.160 to force you into one of two buckets pro or anti in my opinion there is about a hundred iterations

00:51:55.260 between those two polar extremes and yes i think i expressed this the first time we talked about it

00:52:00.940 blake you could be disappointed in the way somebody talks about it but to or conducts an interview

00:52:05.960 but to tyler's point while respecting the relationship and the friendship that is authentic

00:52:12.980 and by the way i have a friendship with tucker i'm sure many of us do and and it's like you know i i have

00:52:19.160 a personal you know friendship with him i actually really like the guy on a personal level and so you

00:52:24.640 got to contend with that and beyond that is to understand that we exactly tyler charlie has barely

00:52:31.760 been gone from us and and to think that we are in a position where that feels morally right to sort of

00:52:38.180 to sort of upset the apple cart and change uh something that was so fundamental and so publicly

00:52:44.600 expressed multiple times and privately expressed about his wishes these are his wishes this is his

00:52:49.580 organization he built this and if somebody thinks that you're going to emotionally coerce us

00:52:54.840 or morally blackmail us to do something especially this soon afterwards like you know go pound sand

00:53:01.980 honestly yeah and we're also look where we are but but here's the thing i i i also love those people

00:53:08.100 that that are are frustrated about that and so it's like listen we are you when when the whole movement

00:53:15.200 is fighting against itself then we're not gonna win elections we're not gonna be focused on on taking

00:53:20.960 ground or or taking territory it's just gonna be all some giant distraction and i just i reject the

00:53:26.200 premise uh in a general sense no i was just gonna say look i mean guys let's let's zoom out for a

00:53:31.520 second we know where we are look where we're sitting right now this is the charlie kirk studio

00:53:35.640 this is the charlie kirk chair it's the bitcoin.com charlie kirk studio hey gotta get back to that

00:53:41.180 but you know it's it's it's charlie's chair and and we leave the chair empty for a reason all right

00:53:46.340 we leave the chair empty out of honor for our friend and that's the reason that it's there and

00:53:54.580 what it was it sick not even not even two months yet it's not even two months and we're sitting here

00:54:01.180 going through all of this and then people are coming in trying to make demands and trying to

00:54:05.760 make people say oh you know this is about you know this is about what are you going to do it's like

00:54:11.300 well how about we're just going to honor charlie's wishes how about yeah we're going to try our best

00:54:15.980 not even that we're just going to do our best to try our best our best of course because it's like

00:54:21.320 that's that's what that's the world in which we're living in right now is like everyone literally just

00:54:25.720 trying to do their best to not speak for charlie you know you just don't do that to the to the dead

00:54:32.000 you don't do that to those who have moved on that's right you try to live up to the standard that

00:54:37.520 they left the the the expectations that you know that he had for you and that you have for yourself

00:54:44.680 because by the way what how about this how about you pick up a phone and you call people instead of

00:54:50.180 instead of trying to just tweeting at them or even get or even better get to work do something

00:54:55.720 productive yeah that's what i've said back to people it's like do something productive but here's

00:54:58.720 the thing again i had this old pastor friend he actually uh married my wife and i at our wedding

00:55:05.760 but he used to say the meaning of life is relationship relationship with god relationship

00:55:10.260 with one another and i so believe that actually because you know and when when we talk about this

00:55:17.140 we're talking about it in in in the context of like i said i have a friendship with tucker

00:55:22.400 charlie has a friendship with had a friendship with tucker jack you have a friendship with tucker

00:55:27.060 blake you have a friendship that has not precluded any of us to say wish the interview would have

00:55:31.120 maybe been a little bit different but the point is is that these things are done in the context

00:55:36.080 context of a relationship and we also like forgive us our trespasses you know lord you know as we

00:55:42.660 forgive those who trespass against us forgive us first yeah and by the way and by the way like i don't

00:55:48.560 have a relationship with nick fuentes i've never met the guy i so and by the way it's always been

00:55:53.820 contentious but i do have one with some of these people that we're talking about and that means

00:55:57.600 something to me so listen and and by the way that means something to me when i'm talking about some

00:56:02.020 of the evangelicals that are upset or some of the jewish uh friends that are upset i get it this is

00:56:06.800 contentious stuff but like instead of just going for the you know yeah yeah you can't even say that

00:56:12.460 i can't even say it i know it's like i was about to say it too and then it's like oh right

00:56:16.400 going for the the clickbait clickbait instead of going for cheap clicks or or or blowing up

00:56:24.380 relationships or blowing up coalitions i talked about this all the time with charlie

00:56:28.440 and actually i didn't talk about it all the time it was it became a very very important conversation

00:56:33.980 probably two weeks before he died charlie and i had like an hour-long conversation about this i'll

00:56:38.920 never forget it and it was based off of a bunch of texts we sent back and forth to each other

00:56:44.000 and then we talked about it and it was basically putting a hierarchy of the virtues as the greeks

00:56:50.080 had them and he was basically saying like listen anybody can tear down anybody can anybody can can

00:56:56.740 you know be an ankle biter anybody for performative clickbait measures just say crazy stuff okay and 0.66

00:57:04.580 but what no what is much rarer in the higher of the virtues is being a philosopher being a statesman

00:57:10.520 being a coalition builder and he was very very clear that the mission of turning point is to not

00:57:15.700 be ankle biters not to be performative like social media artists is none of that stuff it's to be 0.98

00:57:20.980 coalition builders and statesmen and philosophers and um and and by god we are by god's grace we are

00:57:27.740 going to pursue that mission on charlie's behalf and on turning points behalf and for the country's

00:57:32.360 behalf because listen like there's a lot of people that want to tear each other down and i'm just like

00:57:37.540 again i'm going to say i'm going to reject the premise i'm rejecting the premise and we're going to

00:57:41.440 try and keep the darn coalition together if it's the last darn thing any of us do and there's there's

00:57:46.000 something that tyler said that it just has to be brought up the timing of this is they launched all

00:57:51.240 of this at the time we were having an election at the time that we were having a contentious election

00:57:56.760 a couple of key races so we just talked about mondami in new york city we just talked about jersey

00:58:01.880 well i mean we've been talking about jersey we've been talking about virginia etc jay jones uh by the way

00:58:06.800 talking about political violence right what is it 1.5 million people just voted for a guy who said

00:58:11.660 he wants to kill our kids so that's yeah that's great so we're supposed to unite with those people

00:58:15.100 now we're supposed to we're supposed to harmonize with them and all of these people spent their time

00:58:21.240 infighting spent their time ankle biting attacking um you know you know attacking one another and doing

00:58:28.280 this infighting what were they not doing talking to their followers about going out and getting

00:58:34.700 involved in the race some talking about some were telling their followers to actively not vote

00:58:38.920 i mean it's just it's just like it's ridiculous it's ridiculous and guys we've seen this before

00:58:44.340 i mean we've been tracking this for a long time we just went through an entire election cycle

00:58:48.400 where there are people that were adjacent i'm not going to say gripers in in total in totality here but

00:58:56.580 adjacent to to gripers but there were many of these people too that are nick followers who were telling

00:59:02.780 people actively not to vote this is not a new thing this is and it's weird it's not weird to me

00:59:08.360 everything happens for a reason but isn't it weird that this happened just a few weeks before this you

00:59:14.820 know this election that every that i i mean i'm just going to tell you i'm not going to be the

00:59:19.400 conspiracy theorist here but i do believe there's a lot of funding a lot of pushing and pulling and

00:59:25.860 some of this is organic some of it is not organic where there is actual pushing to try to harm

00:59:32.340 republicans in elections leading up to elections on this stuff i don't i don't disagree uh let's get

00:59:37.800 to i think we've we've we've really done that one and i don't know how much time we have left uh

00:59:42.620 maybe faz can get it i think we're way over time but way over time can we just i want to at least play

00:59:47.120 the ebt videos yeah let's do ebt we got to do ebt this has been this has been one that we've been

00:59:54.080 talking about doing for a long time a topic that we wanted to hit and drive you know it's like so

01:00:01.200 blake what is ebt's of tiktok so obviously we already have libs of tiktok she chaya raychik was a 0.95

01:00:07.940 big pioneer of highlighting however you say it i don't i don't know these names uh yeah anyway so

01:00:15.460 haya higher it whatever it's like chanica chana look i don't i am not from new york to say the least

01:00:24.380 anyway is it hebrew right all right go ahead go ahead anyway she pioneered people will post

01:00:33.480 shockingly bad videos of themselves on tiktok being insane and also just social media has been

01:00:39.300 great i think people have learned a lot about the true nature of like crime in america just from

01:00:43.980 social media they've learned a lot about what life is really like in a lot of parts of american society

01:00:48.600 they're not part of and what we've had with the freak out over snap funding over ebt possibly being

01:00:54.280 well i guess actually being suspended now with the government shutdown ongoing is people have gotten a

01:00:59.500 direct encounter with how some americans who are on government programs basically relate to these

01:01:06.640 government programs uh both you know snap supplementary nutritional assistance program the

01:01:12.560 idea you know food stamps the idea you know you're using these to get what you need to survive and what

01:01:17.360 people are learning is there's a lot of people who are on snap who don't work and don't really want

01:01:22.880 to work and feel entitled to not work there are people who have figured out the not exceptionally

01:01:28.160 difficult task of converting food stamps into literally anything else you want to buy stamps

01:01:33.820 and all of that and we have amazing clips of them doing this and they're on tiktok and then they're

01:01:38.760 uploaded to x so that those of us who aren't on tiktok to watch them to your point though by the way um

01:01:42.720 this isn't just something that we're talking about because this is something that charlie talked

01:01:46.280 about let's play clip 323 the number one objective of any social welfare program should be how do we keep 0.51

01:01:52.860 the family together and put dads back in the family unfortunately in the black community dads are 0.74

01:01:58.520 the most absent of any community about two-thirds of all black youth will be raised without a stable

01:02:03.420 father around and i know it's crazy right um and that that little precious angel of yours deserves to 0.92

01:02:11.060 have a father around and unfortunately as we've removed dads from families government has come in and

01:02:17.680 has taken the place so some people need help and they need social assistance all of that should be

01:02:23.400 about incentivizing the dad staying around not the dad leaving okay that was charlie now we have

01:02:32.980 the video so let's see so that's charlie so that's charlie telling us what what we should want in like a

01:02:40.040 a country that has of course our christian values and we don't want people to be left behind etc we all

01:02:46.460 agree with that so let's go see the people now that have been using snap benefits and ebt brought to

01:02:53.800 us courtesy of ebt's of tiktok blake let's do a poison man there's so many of these and i actually

01:03:00.320 haven't watched most of them yet how about we just go with let's just go in order three two seven

01:03:04.860 let's do three two seven yeah you just can't get your hair done this month you can't get your nails

01:03:09.940 done this month and them lashes that you have look like windshield wipers yeah you got to try to glue

01:03:14.840 them on yourself so you can feed them little ragged kids to y'all that's right that's right but that's 0.84

01:03:19.680 just being responsible that's being responsible but when you do that bring your id because then i'm

01:03:25.800 gonna be seeing the real you and i've never seen the real you so i can know who you are so i need you

01:03:31.840 to have some id because i'm a car because of all that i don't know y'all i don't know none of y'all

01:03:36.620 because i got a car and two people today and i was like miss v it's me like who the f*** are you 0.97

01:03:40.580 talicia

01:03:41.460 oh that's the real you

01:03:46.880 so i can't tell is she on ebt or is she just making fun of people who are

01:03:52.220 she's making fun of them i think we book her on the show 1.00

01:03:55.620 immediately i want her on right now do we have some i want three two eight let's try three two 1.00

01:04:00.780 eight and i just really want to know why these restaurants and why these supermarkets aren't

01:04:07.080 giving out free food during this government shutdown like they have food that was not in there

01:04:13.360 there's very obviously they have food to spare they have food that they could give away to people

01:04:20.320 that's affected by this government shutdown then when are stealing then it's gonna be an issue

01:04:26.460 i really don't get why these companies aren't doing more to help during this government shutdown

01:04:36.540 it's really it's really doing something to me it's really really doing something to me

01:04:42.780 uh i i want to skip this do uh three two one

01:04:47.980 and people are gonna start i'm telling you this is gonna be a thing people are gonna start

01:04:55.120 instead of stealing groceries from the stores they're gonna start watching people go to their

01:05:01.000 cars and they're gonna take all of their groceries and you know what the store gonna do 0.68

01:05:05.760 not our problem oh my gosh so instead of stealing straight from the grocery stores people are gonna

01:05:14.260 start to the parking lots the parking lot which by the way blake that gets us back to

01:05:21.400 the shopping cart theory oh no yes i had some brutal shopping cart moments uh you have moments

01:05:28.020 of shopping carts no like i was does everyone remember you guys remember the shopping cart theory

01:05:31.400 the the cultural the citizen puts back the cart the citizen puts back the cart have you seen the guy

01:05:37.840 that goes around and he slaps magnets on their doors when they don't put their car yeah he's like he's

01:05:42.500 like shaming them yeah i've seen some brutal cart abandonment in in some grocery stores lately

01:05:48.800 like in the phoenix area here yeah in the phoenix area and just so this guy does videos and he goes

01:05:54.560 around and he and he's the cart police or he calls them something and so he waits he waits and they

01:06:01.060 when they don't put their car away he it's like a big magnet and he slaps down their car when they're

01:06:05.600 driving away this is like that you should should put your cart away and people get this is like

01:06:09.740 angry it's like those guys who are just sticks to their car that just says like you you are a like

01:06:16.000 it's like a basically a bad citizen for not putting your cart away amazing and they get out of the car

01:06:20.200 they start screaming like every time like every one of they worked that hard at being a human being

01:06:24.400 no they spend more energy yelling at this guy than to put in the carways just and he just runs away

01:06:28.740 from it's not even like citizenship versus non-citizen it's like if you do not put the cart away you are no

01:06:33.460 better than a mere beast wait there's there's one separates us from the animals wait guys there's

01:06:39.360 another there's another clip in here it says so so three two one is like double printed on the clip

01:06:44.460 sheet but there's one that says complaint someone's complaining about having to use their own money

01:06:49.080 that's three three one okay hit that one yeah them people really didn't give us our sims

01:06:55.900 what it's like day two you know i'm saying i get my on the first you know i'm i'm i'm first

01:07:03.060 out of my around this but it's the second and i just went to go peek and i'm like you know maybe

01:07:09.560 they would have gave a little sprinkle sprinkle a little sprinkle 1.00

01:07:13.620 i ain't got no yamps i just spent cash money on five items at the store

01:07:22.960 mind you it was only twenty dollars but i still got bills to pay i still got bills to pay

01:07:28.160 i'm not trying to spend it on that i'm supposed to be getting food stamps for it

01:07:32.740 yeah apparently only about one third of food stamp houses have children and part of that is

01:07:41.820 that there's more elderly people on food stamps yeah so there's part of that but i think there

01:07:47.160 is also just we kind of have a robust pool of americans who don't really want to work i guess

01:07:54.920 or or try to work well this is this is the whole thing with and you see this with the obamacare

01:07:59.560 subsidies and health care too once you put subsidies in in an economy into a marketplace

01:08:04.000 removing those is almost impossible it's like an atrocity people they adjust their spending habits

01:08:10.960 to this new reality right so if they're if and they're entitled and their sense of entitlement yeah

01:08:16.460 but they've they've gotten a more expensive place to rent or they've they've got more uh

01:08:20.580 subscriptions per month or they're you know new tvs or whatever the thing is that they their monthly

01:08:25.340 budget now so so so you can't pull it back without them feeling like the government and

01:08:30.820 the republicans and trump are hurting me this is essentially what it is and it it's rough because

01:08:34.980 you can basically eventually you know eventually you actually go broke and the whole thing falls

01:08:40.920 apart it's some and there's so many different versions and we should be clear there's versions

01:08:43.980 of this we can talk about snap here but there's also a ton of people it's like a way of life to get

01:08:50.020 on social security disability that you don't need to be elderly for you get yourself basically

01:08:54.100 classed as disabled you live on whatever they pay out to you which it doesn't have to be that much 0.95

01:08:58.580 but if you you know live with a family member and you're okay not doing much with your life you can

01:09:04.580 make 15k go pretty far and so there's people who live on that there's uh especially in like states

01:09:11.940 like california and new york there's all these additional state programs you can milk along oh yeah

01:09:16.740 and by the way i'll never forget so so i actually are in california had had our uh daughter

01:09:23.580 so and a guy that uh apparently i didn't realize this so he was one of the workers

01:09:30.780 that uh that was working next door on a construction so on a house a renovation next door 0.80

01:09:36.980 and i i would see him kind of because this renovation went on for like six months so i would

01:09:41.260 see him next door i'd say hey you know here and there anyway so we're at the hospital

01:09:45.640 and we have our kid and down the hall is this mexican dude who doesn't really speak much english

01:09:53.280 also at the hospital having his own kid and so my wife knowing that these guys are you know

01:10:00.600 probably a little bit poor she said you should go offer to buy them like some meals or something like

01:10:06.220 that we should be good neighbors right so i go out and i start talking to this guy because my wife

01:10:10.960 thinks i speak really good spanish and i lived in spain in college study abroad so i start talking

01:10:15.720 to him and i say hey andrew song hit the andrew song are you guys doing okay can we help you my

01:10:20.880 wife wants to help since we saw you at the hospital and the guy goes oh no no like my wife's an 1.00

01:10:26.660 american citizen but since i'm like an immigrant that uh the state of california has paid for all of

01:10:33.360 our hospital bills and they've given us a monthly stipend and so like we're doing great my wife took

01:10:38.200 care of all of it and i was like so wait there's this immigrant here that's here illegally apparently

01:10:42.880 but he's married to an american so it's like it's pretty you know this was their first kid right it

01:10:48.260 all happened yes yes and that's my the andrew thing i love that that's the andrew thing so so this guy

01:10:56.560 he's getting all these government subsidies and benefits for simply having a kid and being an illegal 0.72

01:11:01.620 and you know and here we are trying to do a good christian thing trying to help him out

01:11:07.560 and that my tax dollars were already going to this this gentleman and his newborn american citizen kid

01:11:15.060 it was pretty shocking actually because i just thought you know that's kind of frustrating pretty

01:11:20.580 frustrating that our labor and our toil is going to this guy he's a nice guy whatever it's just but

01:11:25.820 the whole system's pretty frustrating like that blake it's just you articulate it well we you know 1.00

01:11:31.860 they sometimes they'll just do like the the two americas thing and there is there's a lot of people

01:11:38.380 in america who kind of like it's become a lifestyle to find different ways of being on the dole and it's like

01:11:47.440 people don't even occur like obvious things so you can like people will take they like there's a pretty

01:11:55.660 well-developed economy for swapping snap swapping ebt benefits for monetary equivalent things that

01:12:02.440 you know some small rate of depreciation on it and or like underground economies for selling

01:12:09.480 shoplifted goods there's places where it's just routine like oh i can get this good cheaper because

01:12:14.600 someone is going to shoplift it for me people will make requests they'll make requests for something

01:12:17.640 to be shoplifted for them and then they'll buy it more cheaply and there's this whole you know in the

01:12:24.140 kind of the underclass of american life where this happens and having a nicer country you can't just

01:12:28.740 write off the underclass because everything's on a spectrum how nice your city is to live in is heavily

01:12:34.880 dependent on how quality or low quality like your bottom five percent of people are are they just you

01:12:43.020 know do they have lower end jobs or do they have no jobs at all are they basically like are the criminal

01:12:48.820 people locked up or are they kind of allowed to roam freely and attack people all of these things

01:12:53.740 make a difference in how quality your life is and you know the snap ebt stuff does matter it matters a lot

01:12:58.740 whether people on the lower end are purely kind of just living off government money or if they are

01:13:05.400 working some kind of job well and in and in in uh in the vein of that let's play clip 329

01:13:11.460 it's so crazy that the president have a felony your baby daddy had a felony but he can't have no job

01:13:19.620 and that's how people gotta be on food stamps because baby daddy can't get no job because he got felonies

01:13:27.220 and you know that requires you to go get on food stamps right

01:13:30.940 hmm wait felons wait felons can get food stamps i'm sure well she's getting the food stamps it 1.00

01:13:40.700 sounds like she was getting them she's saying that her baby daddy can't get a job or some hypothetical

01:13:45.640 baby dad i'm not sure if it was her specifically but lots of well we saw this after night uh after

01:13:52.560 covet because covet it's just all subsidies galore uh and and by the way and that was another that

01:13:58.620 was another feeding frenzy thing where it was oh we'll help your small business and it pretty quickly

01:14:03.580 the word got around of no one's seriously checking this make your super basic business that's you know

01:14:11.680 a limo service or something you know some sort of job that's like easy to have one employee in

01:14:15.820 and you can get ten thousand dollars and it'll be written off later some of these guys and we see

01:14:21.340 this immigration is so full of that you know the word got out circa 2020 again with tiktok and 0.99

01:14:26.960 everything do these things and you can get past the border patrol in the u.s you know say you're

01:14:32.240 under 18 even if you're over we have tons of accounts of 30 year olds ending up in high schools

01:14:36.500 uh you know you can say one of these five stories will make you have a credible asylum claim and then

01:14:43.400 you'll get a court hearing it'll be a while from now and no one will follow up if you don't show up to

01:14:47.140 it so the word gets out on how to exploit the system and in far too many things we have a system

01:14:54.540 that was basically the honor system and you know it might have worked when honor was it was a had a

01:15:00.440 lot of currency in america and now it doesn't yeah this is also by the way um it gets us it gets us

01:15:05.860 back to the mandami right it gets us because if we're gonna import gimagrins to this country 1.00

01:15:11.760 there's the song then and who don't have that same sense of honor in their home cultures who

01:15:18.400 don't even have this the concept of earning in their culture because they only have a concept of

01:15:23.800 obtaining and receiving and having well and or or you know a grievance based or taking right you know

01:15:32.820 taking because someone europeans have have been such a vile scourge upon the world for so many 1.00

01:15:38.340 centuries now that we have to take back what was then all of these systems completely fall apart

01:15:43.560 however however there may be a little bit of a silver lining here perhaps some hope because this

01:15:49.800 is going to flip the entire conversation around play clip 122 this program is keeping a lot of people

01:15:56.480 unmarried uneducated don't want to you know do anything that will hinder the opportunity

01:16:03.320 they're with that chance to lose their benefits only in america do we have people that have

01:16:10.180 twelve hundred dollar iphones checking to see if their snap benefits hit anyone who's on welfare not

01:16:17.520 for a disability but because they can't provide for themselves should not have the ability to vote 0.99

01:16:21.580 in our society i don't have kids but there's no way that i have kids and i'm waiting on somebody else to feed

01:16:32.840 so there you go perhaps perhaps there's a silver lining that some people are actually pointing out that

01:16:41.580 no these programs are big problems and we've and how many times did charlie point out that

01:16:46.820 went that the great society program which goes back to his much maligned criticism of lbj's 1960s

01:16:54.140 programs um has completely destroyed certain communities in this country by bringing in 1.00

01:16:59.660 big government which goes back to the original turning point slogan of big gov sucks that you know big

01:17:05.220 government becomes dad and therefore you don't need dad it destroys the families because it destroys

01:17:11.280 your it kind of destroys your ability or your incentive to behave responsibly right so if if

01:17:17.160 the government's going to come in and backstop you on everything then it creates moral hazard right

01:17:20.900 why would you behave responsibly if you know the government's just going to give you everything

01:17:24.160 yeah and they're all on iphones and i'm just gonna and by the way can i just say this

01:17:28.040 those oh man okay i'm just gonna say it i'm just gonna say it none of them look particularly hungry

01:17:35.080 to me they don't they don't look particularly needy that's you know what i'm saying you want a

01:17:39.600 glowy brain thing no one in america is actually like no one starves to death in america which is

01:17:45.080 nice starvation was a thing that happened i'm glad we don't live in many countries in the past

01:17:49.240 america's main problem among many young people is extreme obesity many of those countries by the way

01:17:55.700 embrace the same policies of like i don't know zora mondani or joseph stalin yeah and you know we don't

01:18:02.120 have starvation and so like they always have to define it down so now now they call it hunger and

01:18:07.140 if you dig into what they label as you know hunger they'll talk about food insecurity and it'll be

01:18:12.200 things like a lot of people they don't know where their next meal will come from i don't know where

01:18:17.560 my next meal is going to come from my fridge is empty right now well that's a particular blake yeah 0.99

01:18:22.460 that's that's me being a weirdo but tell i want this is this i think this is a good place to wrap up

01:18:27.100 because if you insert this stuff into the culture it's so difficult to extract it and one of the

01:18:33.540 things that i love when you talk about is the you probably got some of this during the great depression

01:18:38.960 and the the new deal right democrats but then in the 60s again you had this new wave of government

01:18:46.660 subsidies and handouts and welfare programs explain the difference between before and after the american

01:18:53.480 psychology of what it meant to take welfare and the and the honor and the dishonor that that was and

01:18:59.000 then after how long did that one of the saddest things one of the saddest things in hindsight to read

01:19:04.340 is when they're rolling out the great society which is lbj's big welfare state thing they would run into

01:19:11.140 the problem that a lot of americans would out of pride refuse to sign up for government programs

01:19:18.600 they it was considered shameful to go on the dole and when you think of how immensely successful

01:19:26.080 america was for so long you've got to think a society where it is shameful to go on the dole

01:19:33.080 is probably going to be more successful than one where there is no shame that when there's no shame

01:19:39.200 about being dependent on other people's to be dependent on the collective then people are more

01:19:44.820 likely to do it and when you do that it you know it's a habit that you sink into and one of the

01:19:51.980 most important parts of maturity and that a lot of people realize when they grow up is you kind of you

01:19:56.440 become what you are based on what your habits are what you do every single day and if it is a habit

01:20:03.780 if it is a habit to take advantage of every way of getting free money if it then it can become a habit

01:20:09.100 to exploit this or to you know get as much of it as possible and to avoid other like more

01:20:17.100 socially beneficial ways of making money like in the long run you just have a worse society a worse

01:20:23.900 country but i'm just gonna like it still comes back though to mass immigration because there are parts

01:20:30.960 of the world where what we would consider scamming what we would consider uh gaming the system uh lying

01:20:37.880 for benefit are not necessarily considered shameful at all yeah or at least certainly when abstracted out

01:20:43.500 a big thing in uh that is not universal is this sort of sense of general obligations towards all of

01:20:51.320 society or like the state apparatus there are a lot of people who come from societies that are

01:20:55.500 that are insular and clannish and so you couldn't cheat your brother your cousin or tribal your yeah your

01:21:01.960 person who's in your this came up a ton in but you can do anything to someone who's outside of that group

01:21:08.060 and that's that's the historical norm that's how probably everybody was 10 000 years ago one of my it was

01:21:12.940 a rough process to change one of my buddies um who who was deployed to afghanistan um i remember we were

01:21:19.640 having this conversation just talking about the cultural differences eastern western and he was saying

01:21:23.760 that in america it's considered corrupt for you to like hire your family and give you know from a government

01:21:30.720 position and give them contracts and do and take care of your family that's considered corrupt in

01:21:36.260 afghanistan if you don't hire your family and give them public contracts and public uh public funds

01:21:44.660 you'd be considered corrupt well this this is this is you're totally right about immigration 1.00

01:21:49.660 because america you talk about her historic levels of excellence and success as a society and we

01:21:57.180 basically either it was hubris or it was ideological rot that was creeping in and you talk about this

01:22:03.160 with the what do you call it the blue banana and maybe you can explain this but essentially most of

01:22:08.620 the world's progress and innovation has come from a very a very tiny slice very tiny slice of civilization

01:22:15.640 yeah i think the blue banana is specifically like an area of high urbanization but you don't need to

01:22:19.940 zoom it out a lot and it's yeah it's basically london this is the london yeah it's like london to london to

01:22:25.000 london to london you can you can track most of the good things in the world from this region a lot

01:22:31.160 yeah just a huge amount of huge but but basically instead of instead of going with with with respect

01:22:36.440 we're not going to screw these places up because they're too precious to humanity we go let's just

01:22:41.860 import a bunch of people that have no idea what the heck that culture is or where it came from

01:22:45.700 some of this is self-inflicted because one of the traits of sort of that is like a universalizing

01:22:50.440 outlook on life sure a persistent a persistent arrogance of a lot of uh it's arrogance that's

01:22:56.500 what it is of like you know historically like english german like european peoples is sort of

01:23:02.240 the assumption that everyone is innately like them there's still a critique we make of liberals they

01:23:06.480 like assume everyone in the world is sort of a uh you know brooklyn liberal waiting to like come out

01:23:14.320 after you like chip away at everything yeah well and that that that is kind of the liberal assumption

01:23:20.080 that people are inherently good people are inherently good but that is not actually biblical

01:23:24.880 biblical is that we were made good and that we fell and that there's evil in the world and then we need

01:23:29.440 to sort of repent from the evil you know you know that is actually the biblical view of human nature

01:23:34.720 is that we were made good made in god's image but then there is a fall evil is inserted in the world so

01:23:39.620 you have to deal with evil this is why we have police this is why we have locks on our door this is why

01:23:43.360 the two-way crowd is is um is is ascendant really but here here's the point though america is kind of

01:23:51.480 like in the 20th century maybe even the 19th century is the blue banana writ large it is it is it's sort

01:23:57.560 of like the innovation came from this country and instead of having a respect for the primordial goo 0.92

01:24:05.100 that makes up this country that the foundational elements the societal core the the culture and the

01:24:09.580 character it's we we've just said oh screw it we're going to open the doors and throw open the

01:24:13.260 doors there's a line i think from some french leftist but i can't remember for sure that

01:24:17.140 is like behind any great fortune is a great crime and this is basically a very third world outlook

01:24:23.560 that's so left it's a world it's so it's a world that is zero sum is a world where there is not like

01:24:29.560 progress and industry and right modern stuff and it kind of is a world that often makes sense if you're

01:24:34.380 from a backward society yeah if you're from a society where everyone is kind of roughly equally leveled

01:24:40.000 and all of your wealth just sort of probably this is um being a renter a rentier like an owner like

01:24:45.360 yeah you might have to do something pretty bad to get a great fortune this is like that idiotic book

01:24:49.260 guns germs and steel yeah was it jared diamond jared diamond jared that is so stupid but in real life

01:24:54.080 it's like okay actually no if you wanted to behind a great fortune if you're if you're in america in

01:24:59.380 1955 what's behind your fortune probably that you or someone in your family developed and created

01:25:06.680 something of enormous value to millions of people so you enhance the besomer process for developing

01:25:14.660 steel you figured out a way to sell ice cream to millions of people and you could make it in a

01:25:18.800 factory uh there's the blue banana by the way it's innately that like wealth coming from value

01:25:24.540 creation and the more value you create the more benefits that accrue to you and that is the winning

01:25:30.700 combination that worked in america at its peak that worked in the uk at its peak that worked in a lot

01:25:35.920 of countries when they're peaking and it's actually why you know china is rising now well and china's

01:25:40.060 gotten better at adding value to things that's why charlie loved elon musk candidly because instead

01:25:44.720 of making wealth selling financial instruments and pieces of paper and finding a way to exploit or

01:25:50.180 predict the market he's actually making physical objects he developed an incredibly innovative electric

01:25:55.540 car i have one developed incredibly innovative you know he is like i'm going to build rockets and i'm

01:26:01.320 going to make them affordable and i'm going to put the internet in space as like i it was almost

01:26:05.500 an accident a side effect a oh we need to figure out how to make money off of this that he puts

01:26:10.120 thousands of satellites in orbit and now oh you can actually just get wi-fi anywhere i need you to

01:26:14.280 explain this to me apparently now there's a yellow and green banana oh they're making new bananas all

01:26:20.140 the time this feels very leftist yeah yeah where they have to be because of the incorporating no no

01:26:25.240 because it's it's it's because industrialization and urbanization has spread across europe now from the

01:26:30.680 original blue banana all right blake do you have an answer here are you still well i'm looking now my

01:26:35.680 screen is i have one of the original definition of the blue banana was throw it up when you have it

01:26:40.360 studio but we should we should wrap it yeah well so part of this by the way the reason i flag that is

01:26:44.960 the blue banana is actually mostly historically like urbanized zone that's always been very high

01:26:48.980 density and so now you have these other big cities is what's going on there but it also that

01:26:54.300 historical blue banana is also just if you look at you you know you can read the history of european

01:26:59.620 science and industry and philosophy and all the big innovations and they just come it's not even

01:27:04.840 they come from europe they come from a remarkably narrow slice of why isn't like why isn't not many

01:27:10.140 why isn't rome in it i mean rome actually hasn't been that great since rome is where the church is

01:27:16.020 northern italy back innovation northern italy is where like all the the really dynamic scientist types are

01:27:22.820 coming from and yeah like gal has anyone here actually he works in pisa i think has anyone

01:27:29.260 here actually had a real blue banana though those things are supposed to be delicious that's a thing

01:27:34.060 no i think i may have in guam it's called a blue java banana yeah i think when i was in galileo

01:27:38.900 born in pisa wait time out time out this is really important i want to talk about my time in asia more

01:27:42.720 and all the the things i experienced it allegedly tastes like vanilla ice cream i really want they're

01:27:48.140 really expensive the one that i had in guam did not taste like vanilla ice cream i've never heard of this

01:27:51.020 no they're called look it up a blue java banana all right the one it's more of like maroon a blue

01:27:55.880 java and you keep talking about bananas we have to wrap now the blue java bananas here's the deal

01:28:01.420 here's the deal we had to do this thought crime to cleanse ourselves of many things including the 0.69

01:28:09.100 election some of the some of the controversies except for arizona except for arizona well done turning

01:28:15.060 point action and in new hampshire um you want to take us home no i think i think we learned a lot

01:28:21.300 i think uh tonight was a good conversation i think tonight we had some important conversations ebt is

01:28:25.780 a tiktok by the way that's on twitter so give them i have no idea who runs it give them a follow

01:28:29.920 um that looks like a great account i i love these like and carton arcs archive carton arcs that was

01:28:35.520 it called yeah oh carton i love that name um and but oh by the way throw it up three four two for uh for

01:28:40.960 tyler there we go there she is arizona rhino patrolled dorian taylor is now on the mesa city

01:28:52.920 council yeah that's great that's great job it's a big win it's a big win because guess what yeah if

01:28:58.200 if if that if she wouldn't have won do you have any idea we had politico new york times all these

01:29:03.940 people they would have they would have stopped all over and new york times is following our

01:29:07.960 they were making a referendum on turning point actions they would they absolutely would have

01:29:13.500 used it as an opportunity to tarnish charlie so god god was watching out and guys if we could play

01:29:18.440 the um and as as we go out could we just play the new theme song of thought crime i need it louder i

01:29:25.480 need louder i need more i need more let's get it up charlie would would uh would force us to go out 0.97

01:29:32.120 on classical music you know he will i think charlie liked taking this all i think

01:29:36.300 everybody likes taking this all it's an export it's an export from the blue banana ladies and

01:29:42.600 gentlemen as always go out there and commit more thought crime

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 08, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 104 — Post-Election Palette Cleanser + Tucker⧸Fuentes Interview Reaction

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