Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 105 — Woman-Free Miitary？ End All H-1Bs？ Christmas Decorations？

00:00:00.000 From the age of Big Brother.

00:00:02.680 If they want to get you, they'll get you.

00:00:05.020 DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.

00:00:08.940 They're collecting your communications.

00:00:14.700 All right, welcome to Thursday's Thought Crime.

00:00:23.080 And we have Cliff Maloney in the house.

00:00:25.940 What's up?

00:00:26.220 Not in the big house, but the house, in the studio.

00:00:30.480 You could be in a big house.

00:00:31.700 It's great to be here.

00:00:33.080 We got Mikey McCoy also in studio.

00:00:35.600 A lot of people from Pennsylvania are in a big house. 0.98

00:00:39.040 That is true.

00:00:39.660 It's a national pastime of you Pennsylvanians, but that's fine.

00:00:43.620 We also have Blake Neff.

00:00:46.160 He's in studio in D.C.

00:00:48.100 And then we have Jack Posobiec in an undisclosed bunker.

00:00:53.240 That's about all I'm going to say about that.

00:00:57.000 He's on assignment.

00:00:58.060 Yeah, you're on assignment in an undisclosed location.

00:01:01.340 Jack Posobiec, welcome.

00:01:03.260 You're in an undisclosed location somewhere near California.

00:01:08.500 I'm going to be asking a lot of questions.

00:01:11.260 I want to have them answered immediately.

00:01:13.060 Are you running a bot farm in Eastern Europe?

00:01:15.500 Who is your daddy and what does he do?

00:01:18.000 Yes, I'm not running a bot farm.

00:01:20.160 Don't look at my bot farm.

00:01:21.660 Don't ask questions about the farm of bot.

00:01:24.080 Is this a Romanian thing?

00:01:25.700 That's what I've heard.

00:01:26.340 Don't ask questions about Romania.

00:01:30.860 Well, we have a new time here.

00:01:33.640 So we want to hear from you guys in the audience what you think about the new time.

00:01:38.000 Do you like the new time?

00:01:39.200 Do you hate the new time?

00:01:40.400 Are you more likely to watch in the new time?

00:01:43.000 Or are you less likely to watch?

00:01:44.500 And if you are less likely to watch, we don't actually want to hear that.

00:01:46.860 We just want to hear the positive feedback.

00:01:48.200 No, I'm kidding.

00:01:48.560 We want to hear it all because this time works a lot better for a lot of reasons, especially

00:01:54.800 when Jack is East Coast.

00:01:57.320 We're on mountain time now in Arizona.

00:01:59.940 Mountain time.

00:02:00.940 And you're often on Pacific time, aren't you?

00:02:03.560 Correct.

00:02:04.020 Which is tricky, especially when you have media.

00:02:07.160 Jack, do you want to get us started?

00:02:08.080 Can I just say?

00:02:08.720 Yeah, get us started.

00:02:09.480 Since we're going to bring it up, since we're going to bring it up, East Coast time is the

00:02:15.040 best time, period.

00:02:17.200 There's no question about this.

00:02:19.100 Eastern Standard Time is the best time zone.

00:02:22.040 Look, East Coast is basically like, that's basically like caffeine and Adderall and cocaine

00:02:28.480 and like, you just drive the world.

00:02:31.880 When you live in the East Coast, you're in that New York, Philly, D.C., Florida vector.

00:02:37.180 You're driving the world, right?

00:02:38.800 Not only should East Coast time be the standard time for America, it should be a standard time

00:02:44.460 for the world.

00:02:45.140 Steal at Greenwich Mean Time away from London.

00:02:47.340 London's time is over.

00:02:48.520 It is time for East Coast supremacy.

00:02:50.120 We have a rule at Citizens' Alliance that Eastern Time is the Lord's time. 0.69

00:02:57.080 I don't know about that.

00:02:58.100 I will say, you know, what does not get enough respect is Central Time or Mountain Time, because

00:03:03.040 then you're kind of like splitting the difference.

00:03:04.700 Central Time doesn't deserve any respect.

00:03:06.560 Well, I'm just saying, from a quality of life standpoint, it's not as bad as you'd think,

00:03:10.840 because, you know, at least you are roughly on the same time zone as the East Coast.

00:03:17.100 You're just one hour behind, so it's not like terrible.

00:03:19.220 You have to do East Coast timing things.

00:03:21.720 But if you've got West Coast games when, like, the Dodgers are in the World Series and you're

00:03:26.420 watching the World Series on West Coast time, it doesn't have to be so late at night.

00:03:30.380 Even when they announce it, they say the game's at 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific.

00:03:33.580 They just skip over all the other time zones.

00:03:36.500 Cliff, go with me on this.

00:03:39.140 Imagine if all the West Coast stoners had to wake up before the East Coast.

00:03:44.260 They would have no idea what to do.

00:03:46.940 They would be clueless.

00:03:48.440 They would be rudderless.

00:03:50.360 They need the firm, steely-eyed hand of the East Coast to set the way.

00:03:56.460 With all the, like, bad complexions from, like, never seeing the sun.

00:04:00.540 The best time zone is pretty simple.

00:04:04.360 It's Arizona time because it is the only time zone in America that is never on daylight savings time,

00:04:10.220 which is, you know, this curse and blight upon the peoples of this earth.

00:04:15.920 We could learn a lot from Arizona in that respect.

00:04:17.940 We certainly could.

00:04:19.140 I'm evolved on this issue, as, you know, Barack Obama said about gay marriage.

00:04:24.560 I've evolved on this issue, guys.

00:04:27.000 And I actually do think standard time is probably the right time.

00:04:31.580 Blake convinced me on this.

00:04:33.300 It's a Blake thing.

00:04:34.860 Jack, you have nothing to do with it.

00:04:38.360 No, Blake convinced me first.

00:04:40.020 You know what's funny?

00:04:40.660 Because, like, I had a Politico was, like, writing this up at one point.

00:04:44.660 Did you know there's actually, like, a foundation for keeping us or getting rid of all the daylight savings time?

00:04:51.480 And they were, like, sending stuff to me.

00:04:54.000 And they were, like, retweet our stuff.

00:04:55.660 And I was, like, hey, this is pretty good.

00:04:56.880 And, you know, they were, like, pulling up, like, Bible quotes and different health studies and things.

00:05:02.260 There are political action committees dedicated to this issue.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, and then Politico wrote it up.

00:05:06.900 And they came to me and they were, like, did Donald Trump tell you to start tweeting about getting rid of daylight savings time?

00:05:14.140 And I was, like, no, but someone did.

00:05:16.260 And they're, like, who?

00:05:17.100 Blake Neff.

00:05:17.960 They're, like, who is this Blake Neff?

00:05:22.320 Blake, Blake, now.

00:05:23.300 Funny enough, they didn't report that part.

00:05:24.440 So here's a question for Blake.

00:05:25.820 So you were living on the East Coast.

00:05:27.380 And then you joined the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:05:29.300 And you moved to permanently standard time.

00:05:32.680 What was that transition like for you?

00:05:35.800 Did you like it?

00:05:36.900 Well, I liked it overall.

00:05:39.500 I do like a kind of funny thing, an artifact of me moving out, is I actually still have my computer on Easter.

00:05:47.960 Easter in time, because the show is on Easter in time.

00:05:50.540 Let's go!

00:05:51.100 And it just keeps me from getting messed up.

00:05:53.820 It keeps me from getting messed up.

00:05:55.520 If I fly somewhere.

00:05:57.340 And I just, I always basically intuitively know, you know, let's just pay attention.

00:06:03.120 What time is it in D.C.?

00:06:05.040 Because that's where, you know, most things are going on.

00:06:07.120 That's where the show time is always on.

00:06:08.680 I do like things generally happening earlier in Arizona.

00:06:14.860 I do think there's this, like, psychotic need to keep everything very late at night out East.

00:06:20.260 So I kind of like that the Super Bowl begins as an afternoon event.

00:06:25.300 I like that the NFL basically is rolling as soon as, like, church is over, even if I go early in the morning.

00:06:33.140 Yeah, I'm just kind of becoming a sucker for all these things that happen early in the day, which is accentuated by the fact that it's accentuated by the fact that we don't have devilish daylight savings time in Arizona.

00:06:52.980 So the sun is rising in the morning, as it should, and then it is setting in the evening when we should be preparing to sleep.

00:07:02.460 That's correct.

00:07:02.900 And so all things are in alignment under Arizona time.

00:07:06.620 So as the East Coast goes and they rebel against God because they hate God on the East Coast, and so they keep the sun up later in the day.

00:07:15.320 But that's the East Coast and the West Coast.

00:07:16.060 And then they have dinner.

00:07:17.240 They have dinner at 9 p.m.

00:07:18.860 That's all the coast.

00:07:19.320 One at a time.

00:07:20.720 One at a time.

00:07:21.120 And they want to stay up late.

00:07:22.040 One last thing.

00:07:23.980 They want to stay up late.

00:07:26.000 They want to stay up late on the East Coast because they want to watch late night television shows like Jimmy Kimmel that are on very late at night.

00:07:36.200 And this is just part of their general evil dynamic on the East Coast.

00:07:40.660 And yet Jimmy Kimmel is broadcast from the West Coast, Blake.

00:07:44.880 That's a little flying appointment, isn't it?

00:07:47.100 They air late at night for their East Coast audience.

00:07:50.840 It's not where it is recorded.

00:07:53.060 It's spiritually where is the show base.

00:07:56.100 So many holes in this argument.

00:07:57.200 So many holes in this argument.

00:07:58.380 So many holes in this argument.

00:07:58.400 I will tell you.

00:07:59.040 Swiss cheese argument over here.

00:08:00.260 When I go to, like, New York or D.C., and just the late night of it all is really, like, an adjustment.

00:08:07.880 Like, people on the East Coast stay up way later as a general cultural trend than we do on the West Coast.

00:08:14.040 And I don't love it.

00:08:15.900 I don't love it.

00:08:17.700 No.

00:08:17.920 Like, when you're texting me, it's 9 o'clock your time.

00:08:21.740 It's midnight my time.

00:08:23.140 I'm still up.

00:08:24.720 And then I'm hitting that wake up, pray up, GM, Christ is king.

00:08:28.240 That's 6.45 a.m.

00:08:29.640 You got to roll.

00:08:30.700 You got to roll.

00:08:31.740 Listen, you know what's funny, though?

00:08:33.340 I just looked at our graphic.

00:08:34.540 They're up 3.42.

00:08:35.460 This is hilarious to me.

00:08:37.240 So because, you know, the show graphic was made in Mountain Time, they included 4 p.m. MT.

00:08:43.420 Like, nobody ever includes MT, and I just noticed that.

00:08:47.540 4 p.m. MT.

00:08:48.100 There were people in the comments who were actually, like, correcting it and adding PT, because people are like, why?

00:08:54.940 What is this?

00:08:56.240 Like, who puts MT in the graphic?

00:09:00.180 I don't know who on our team did this.

00:09:01.740 You know, the funny thing.

00:09:02.460 Like, how many states are in MT?

00:09:04.020 A funny thing that's caused quite a few.

00:09:07.720 It's a pretty, you know, there's, like, a lot of states out there.

00:09:10.360 Although, a funny thing that happens with MT, a funny thing, if you really want to be intensely pedantic,

00:09:17.240 and I think it's caused issues before when we schedule things, is, you know, we'll send out those emails when we,

00:09:22.240 for, like, when we're doing the AMA with subscribers, and technically, even when we're on Pacific time,

00:09:29.060 due to daylight savings time being practiced in the heathen lands, we're just always on Mountain Standard Time.

00:09:34.440 That is the official time in Arizona.

00:09:36.040 We're not going back and forth between Mountain and Pacific.

00:09:39.260 It's just we're always on MST, Mountain Standard Time, and this totally bamboozles people.

00:09:45.000 This causes no end of trouble, which could all be eliminated if we eliminated the heathen daylight savings time

00:09:52.580 and its rebellion against God, which is the cause of most natural disasters in the United States.

00:09:58.700 I just have this vision of Blake, like, winning the lottery and spending all of the money on lobbying the U.S. government

00:10:04.480 to make everything like Arizona.

00:10:06.440 But, Blake, you said, I thought Hawaii also doesn't do time change.

00:10:12.420 I think they do.

00:10:13.520 I'm pretty sure Arizona's the only one.

00:10:14.900 No, I think it's Hawaii and Arizona.

00:10:16.940 Did Hawaii change?

00:10:18.600 Did Hawaii, that would explain why Hawaii doesn't have bad things happen to it, even though they're really lit.

00:10:23.180 Wait, it just almost burned down Maui, but that's fine.

00:10:26.640 It basically did.

00:10:28.020 But, hey, throw up this image.

00:10:29.480 Okay, Hawaii doesn't observe it.

00:10:31.640 Hawaii does not. 0.85

00:10:32.320 Hey, you asked a question.

00:10:33.960 You asked a question.

00:10:34.980 We're going to answer it.

00:10:35.680 Look at 343.

00:10:37.640 It's a pretty good map.

00:10:39.540 343.

00:10:40.040 So you got Arizona, which is on Mountain Time, like, part of the time.

00:10:44.260 What we would consider Mountain Time.

00:10:46.260 You got New Mexico.

00:10:47.400 You've even got Western Texas, like, so where El Paso is, is on.

00:10:52.060 And then you've got Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho.

00:10:55.080 Eastern Oregon?

00:10:56.540 I had no idea.

00:10:57.640 Only part of Idaho is on Mountain Time.

00:11:00.380 And then the northern part of Idaho goes back to Pacific Time.

00:11:03.940 All of Montana, southwestern North Dakota, western South Dakota, western Nebraska, and western Kansas.

00:11:12.540 This is a – I had no idea it was this elaborate.

00:11:16.560 Is this, like, news to anybody else?

00:11:18.580 I will say this.

00:11:22.420 Traveling as much as all of us do, it is, you know, it is funny.

00:11:24.780 I'm actually interested.

00:11:25.720 Do you guys all keep your computer in a certain time zone?

00:11:28.300 My rule is my computer stays in Eastern.

00:11:30.380 I keep them in America's time zone, which is Eastern time zone. 0.79

00:11:34.440 Okay.

00:11:34.840 The Lord's time.

00:11:35.820 Okay.

00:11:36.680 Jack.

00:11:37.400 My favorite thing.

00:11:38.420 Your Wawa and your Tasty Cakes and your – don't get me excited.

00:11:41.780 And my Philadelphia Eagles, the United States Super Bowl champions.

00:11:45.340 Is that going to happen again?

00:11:46.600 I hope.

00:11:47.380 Yes.

00:11:47.880 Not bad juju when we come here because they lost here.

00:11:50.040 No, it's not going to happen.

00:11:51.040 No.

00:11:51.300 I will – before we move on, we should move on to our official topic in a second.

00:11:55.540 But I do – just Jess Freedom, we have our live chat now.

00:11:58.620 And just Jess Freedom says that we have daylight savings time to help farmers.

00:12:03.620 And I need to – I need to wage war upon this myth because it is not true.

00:12:09.960 If you've ever talked to a farmer, they can't follow daylight savings time because what do farmers work with?

00:12:18.100 They work with the natural world, which was created by God.

00:12:20.460 And do cows know that the time zone has changed?

00:12:24.940 No.

00:12:25.780 The cows are going to do their cow stuff at the same time. 0.92

00:12:30.440 Solar.

00:12:31.120 The same solar time.

00:12:33.280 So if you have to do something at sunrise, you just have to do something at sunrise.

00:12:37.920 If you have to do something before, you know, the sun goes down, they're just going to do it regardless.

00:12:43.100 So daylight savings time really has, like, no effect on the farmers.

00:12:47.140 It was created during World War I by evil people like Woodrow Wilson. 0.76

00:12:52.380 And then it was brought back by other evil people like Franklin Roosevelt.

00:12:56.660 Wait.

00:12:56.860 And now we just perpetually live in slavery under what they've created.

00:13:01.640 Wait.

00:13:02.020 I had – I did not know that.

00:13:03.420 Woodrow Wilson, it was – daylight savings time originated under –

00:13:06.440 It was – the original idea for it.

00:13:09.020 The original idea for it was during World War I, and they thought it – they thought

00:13:13.940 it could save some energy, and, like, they could – I think it was, like, they thought

00:13:17.340 it would improve wartime production and something like that.

00:13:21.660 I can't remember the exact nature of it, but it originally began in World War I as a wartime

00:13:25.880 measure.

00:13:26.600 And then they brought it back – I'm not making this up – they brought it back during the

00:13:29.560 Great Depression because FDR thought that there would be more shopping if there was more

00:13:35.680 daylight, and this would stimulate the economy.

00:13:39.020 Let me throw out one cool factoid.

00:13:41.280 Florida is not all in Eastern time.

00:13:44.540 Parts of Florida and Central time.

00:13:46.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:46.980 That's how you know because when the polls close –

00:13:48.320 Yeah, we learn that every year during the election.

00:13:50.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:50.520 I figured the election folks would remember this, but they count, obviously, the first

00:13:56.320 half, and then you've got a little piece of the panhandle –

00:13:58.720 Yeah, it's a panhandle.

00:13:59.580 – that covers it, but that's how wide the panhandle is, that it dips in the Central time

00:14:03.600 zone.

00:14:03.760 I knew that because I went to Destin, and I kept showing up an hour late to phone calls.

00:14:09.020 And I had no idea that there was a Central time zone in Florida.

00:14:12.600 You know what?

00:14:13.240 I do feel bad for the states that are like cut in half, right?

00:14:15.940 Because you've got Tennessee – Eastern Tennessee is on Eastern, Western Tennessee is on Central.

00:14:20.340 Eastern Kentucky, Eastern, Western, Central.

00:14:23.280 Idaho, same thing.

00:14:24.080 Indiana has parts of Eastern, parts of Western.

00:14:27.360 And did you know that the farthest West that the East Coast time goes is to the Upper Peninsula,

00:14:33.920 but half of the Upper Peninsula is on East Coast, half of it is on West Coast.

00:14:38.440 Fascinating.

00:14:38.800 Look at that cutout of Idaho.

00:14:40.660 I mean, Idaho is really struggling.

00:14:42.700 I mean, they literally just did loop the loop around.

00:14:44.600 What's going on with Eastern Oregon?

00:14:46.480 I don't understand what's going on with that.

00:14:49.080 Is that the conservative part of the state?

00:14:50.480 Which part of Oregon – that's the conservative part.

00:14:52.220 That's the conservative part.

00:14:53.420 There's literally only one part that's not conservative.

00:14:55.880 It's called Portland.

00:14:57.400 Well, it bend, you know, probably is – but it's the same with Washington.

00:15:00.700 It's like Olympia, Tacoma, Seattle, liberal.

00:15:05.520 Everything else, conservative.

00:15:07.640 Can we just throw that map up again one more time?

00:15:10.820 Can we throw that up?

00:15:11.340 Because I just want to look at my glorious East Coast time zone.

00:15:14.520 Oh, look at it.

00:15:15.620 It's so good.

00:15:16.920 So perfect.

00:15:18.020 So wonderful.

00:15:19.940 It's just –

00:15:21.180 What?

00:15:23.440 What is that even saying?

00:15:25.620 Play the Stephen A. when he went after Andrew.

00:15:27.820 Hell yes.

00:15:31.820 Well, Blake, can I at least get you to agree on this?

00:15:34.400 That if we do start messing around with the times at all,

00:15:37.640 that we should also take GMT away from London

00:15:43.460 and make U.S. East Coast time the sort of international standard for zero.

00:15:50.960 I'm torn on that one because Britain is a benighted country

00:15:55.320 that has become kind of third world.

00:15:58.420 But GMT was created by Britain when it was a great country.

00:16:04.300 And I don't know.

00:16:05.780 It's like –

00:16:07.140 I would rather just like –

00:16:08.760 GMT would still be GMT because it's Greenwich

00:16:11.140 because that's where Greenwich is.

00:16:12.420 It's based on London.

00:16:13.520 But what I'm saying is you make –

00:16:15.320 you just make like AST, American Standard Time,

00:16:19.720 and that's –

00:16:20.880 or American Mean Time,

00:16:22.180 and that's East Coast,

00:16:23.100 and that's zero now.

00:16:24.220 And force everyone else to change their clocks off of us.

00:16:27.900 Wouldn't we just still call it Greenwich Meridian Time

00:16:30.380 and we just set it to like Greenwich, Connecticut?

00:16:32.840 There you go.

00:16:33.980 Now we're thinking.

00:16:34.660 Genius.

00:16:35.520 Genius.

00:16:36.340 Golf of America.

00:16:37.640 This is why we have Blake.

00:16:39.260 This is why we have a Blake.

00:16:43.820 Solomon-like wisdom over here.

00:16:45.560 On tap for anyone.

00:16:46.720 All right, we should get in to the actual topics here.

00:16:50.160 Which one did we want first?

00:16:53.560 H-1B.

00:16:54.360 H-1B.

00:16:55.200 H-1B.

00:16:55.800 H-1B.

00:16:56.460 All right.

00:16:57.060 Okay, we've got to hit the H-1B topic.

00:16:59.900 Okay, so this blew up again.

00:17:02.620 It's kind of blown up cyclically over the past year.

00:17:06.180 But it blew up again this week

00:17:07.320 because President Trump had an interview with Laura Ingraham on Fox,

00:17:13.420 and they hit a lot of different topics.

00:17:15.220 But a big thing that came up was H-1Bs 1.00

00:17:18.340 because a lot of people have said we should have an immigration freeze.

00:17:21.960 We should radically cut back H-1Bs. 1.00

00:17:24.040 For those who can't remember,

00:17:24.960 H-1Bs are kind of the most common skilled worker visa.

00:17:29.980 So a company says there is some skill we can't fill in the U.S. market.

00:17:35.160 We need to bring in someone from overseas.

00:17:37.640 A lot of tech companies do this.

00:17:39.440 Anyway, Laura asked President Trump about H-1B visas,

00:17:43.880 and this came up.

00:17:44.820 Let's play clip 200.

00:17:47.580 There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.

00:17:50.060 And does that mean-

00:17:50.600 The Republicans have to talk about it, Laura.

00:17:52.300 And does that mean the H-1B visa thing

00:17:54.560 will not be a big priority for your administration?

00:17:57.260 Because if you want to raise wages for American workers,

00:17:59.600 you can't flood the country with tens of thousands

00:18:02.360 or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.

00:18:03.320 I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent.

00:18:06.620 Well, we have plenty of talented people here.

00:18:08.360 No, you don't.

00:18:08.640 No, you don't.

00:18:09.860 Ooh.

00:18:10.620 No, you don't.

00:18:11.340 And I love that after that clip saying we don't have talent,

00:18:14.400 it went straight to a full shot of Blake.

00:18:18.920 Imagine Blake being replaced with an Indian 1.00

00:18:21.120 on this stream right now.

00:18:25.980 Yes.

00:18:26.420 This line.

00:18:27.900 We must make America Arizona Mountain Time.

00:18:33.320 H-1B.

00:18:36.140 I like H-1B.

00:18:40.040 You only pay me half.

00:18:42.280 I work for half the dollar.

00:18:46.880 You know, Mikey's got it going on

00:18:48.680 when the whole control room is losing.

00:18:50.260 This was the Mamdami theme song.

00:18:53.440 Remember, this was the theme song

00:18:54.840 that Mamdami walked off of his- 0.74

00:18:58.640 That can't be real.

00:18:59.540 Is that real?

00:19:00.120 Well, don't you know when they-

00:19:01.680 Play the clip.

00:19:02.540 Play the clip if you don't believe me.

00:19:03.900 No, it is.

00:19:04.400 It's true.

00:19:04.920 When we award H-1Bs to Indians- 1.00

00:19:07.100 This is the actual song.

00:19:08.080 Yeah.

00:19:08.340 When we award H-1Bs to Indians, 1.00

00:19:10.440 this is when we hand the piece of paper,

00:19:12.260 that's the song that plays.

00:19:13.940 That's the first song that he heard

00:19:15.280 when he got into America.

00:19:16.000 This is what Mamdami wants for America. 0.76

00:19:18.080 Yeah.

00:19:21.940 We'll get the clip.

00:19:23.020 We'll get the clip.

00:19:23.840 Can we play the song again?

00:19:24.980 How's it go?

00:19:25.860 Oh, I need the song again.

00:19:27.580 How's it go?

00:19:28.440 You should show-

00:19:29.140 No, no.

00:19:29.480 Mikey's got it down.

00:19:30.180 I wanted to hear it.

00:19:34.320 It's the Mamdami theme. 0.82

00:19:35.500 No, you've got to do your Mamdami interpretation.

00:19:38.720 Wow.

00:19:38.820 H-1B.

00:19:40.280 H-1B.

00:19:41.800 Autism alert.

00:19:43.220 Okay.

00:19:43.540 These studios are having so much fun right now.

00:19:48.860 Can you, studios, show my image.

00:19:51.220 So from after that, the screen I have up right now.

00:19:55.540 After that happened, the conservative base lost their minds.

00:20:00.320 After this clip from Laura Ingraham, rather.

00:20:04.500 Now there's ABC saying,

00:20:06.020 Where is my president?

00:20:07.040 Some MAGA supporters are in uproar over Trump's H-1B visa comments.

00:20:12.460 So this is, I would say I got some of that feedback.

00:20:16.300 When we did the show the next day, it was like absolutely an uproar.

00:20:22.260 The emails were ugly for the Trump administration.

00:20:25.320 And I think, like, listen, if there's an opportunity where we could get rid of H-1B altogether and maybe expand the genius visa, but actually ensure that they're geniuses, I'd be more open-minded to that conversation. 0.99

00:20:39.120 But the way that the communication came off, it was kind of rough.

00:20:43.800 It was kind of rough.

00:20:45.480 Saying we don't have talent.

00:20:52.000 Yes.

00:20:53.480 Nobody?

00:20:53.960 Nobody?

00:20:55.320 Yeah, no, we don't.

00:20:56.960 We don't.

00:20:57.680 No.

00:20:58.100 But, you know, it's genuinely interesting because the H-1B has, like, bounced back and forth a lot.

00:21:04.360 And, like, the truth is, is America does have a talent issue.

00:21:08.220 The problem is that it's actually significantly created by H-1Bs. 0.92

00:21:12.680 And, you know, there's a lot of good stuff pointing this out.

00:21:15.200 Like, a reason not as many people are going into STEM fields, as you'd call it, is, like, we lowered the wages for it.

00:21:22.540 Because we brought in so many H-1Bs in certain fields. 1.00

00:21:26.680 And another thing we did is we screwed up the education pipeline.

00:21:29.540 Like, for example, getting a Ph.D. in something like computer science, something like physics, something engineering related.

00:21:36.780 Way fewer Americans are getting Ph.D.s in that.

00:21:39.780 Why is one reason they do that?

00:21:41.200 Well, a huge number of foreigners are willing to do those Ph.D.s for, like, very low pay while you're getting the Ph.D. 0.97

00:21:49.640 Well, why do they do that?

00:21:50.860 Because you can come to the U.S., study to get a Ph.D., and in addition to whatever money you're getting, you can get a visa to live and work in America at the end of it.

00:22:00.160 And so, effectively, they get paid way more while they're studying because they're getting something hugely valuable, which is U.S. citizenship or a path to citizenship as a side effect of it.

00:22:11.240 So, basically, you've made it so you're getting paid way less if you're an American getting a Ph.D. at a school in America.

00:22:19.820 Same thing with the H-1B thing. 0.64

00:22:21.460 And on top of that, you know, we make it lower status because we've kind of signaled, oh, like, certain fields are things tons of immigrants do. 1.00

00:22:29.580 And, you know, being a fresh-off-the-boat immigrant worker is not as high status as, you know, working in various other high-powered fields.

00:22:37.100 So, unsurprisingly, Americans have gone into jobs like finance, like law, like consulting that have fewer immigrants in them.

00:22:45.180 A lot of those jobs, you need to know English a lot more fluently than you do in hard STEM fields.

00:22:49.880 So, we basically just massively borked our own skill pipeline. 0.97

00:22:54.320 And then they turn around and they're like, oh, Americans just don't want to do these jobs or Americans are too dumb to do these jobs. 0.98

00:22:59.920 And it's like, no, we just actively screwed them up. 0.98

00:23:03.580 And if you look at the America that landed a man on the moon, yeah, there were some immigrants who worked at NASA.

00:23:08.520 There were some immigrants who worked on the Manhattan Project.

00:23:10.560 But 95-plus percent of that workforce was grown in America.

00:23:15.940 And we have a perfectly smart population to continue doing that.

00:23:19.280 We just chose not to.

00:23:22.060 Subscribe to my newsletter.

00:23:23.400 Yeah, I actually totally agree with this.

00:23:25.540 But I also, I think it's more like soft incentive structures.

00:23:30.100 So, yeah, you could look at wages.

00:23:31.700 You could look at this and that.

00:23:33.260 But what's probably what I've seen, and I've talked to, one of the things I would do when we'd go on these campus tours, I'd talk to people like, hey, why don't you pursue that?

00:23:42.540 And some of the more honest kids would just be like, well, listen, like, it's all like Indians and Chinese kids that are in those classes.

00:23:48.720 There's something about wanting to be around people that you recognize and that you relate to.

00:23:54.320 And when you want, as you're an American kid now and you want to go be an engineer, you want to be a, you know, go into these STEM fields.

00:24:02.140 And you look around, you're like, none of them are like me.

00:24:04.500 It must not be for me.

00:24:05.480 There's like, it's almost like a subconscious conclusion you reach pretty immediately where like, this is not for me.

00:24:11.580 Yeah, I actually remember touring UC Berkeley as a rower.

00:24:15.020 And I was going around the campus.

00:24:17.180 I remember eating at the dining hall.

00:24:18.860 And it was just like all Chinese students. 0.98

00:24:21.800 And that went through my head.

00:24:23.180 I was like, I don't know if I want to go here.

00:24:24.620 I just, this doesn't resonate with me.

00:24:26.400 Like these are literally all foreign, like Chinese. 1.00

00:24:29.920 It just doesn't feel like me.

00:24:32.300 Yeah.

00:24:32.480 It's just not.

00:24:33.260 It feels un-American.

00:24:34.080 It feels like you have to like, you're studying abroad just at UC Berkeley.

00:24:37.140 Yeah.

00:24:38.840 I think that has more to do with it.

00:24:40.520 Real quick here though.

00:24:42.040 Do you guys know the facts?

00:24:43.700 70% of H-1B visa holders come from which country?

00:24:48.160 Where's the song?

00:24:49.060 70%.

00:24:55.620 Let's cut the number up to 80.

00:25:02.440 I don't know.

00:25:03.120 I don't think we have a song for this one.

00:25:04.360 10 to 15% of H-1Bs come from?

00:25:08.400 China.

00:25:09.080 China.

00:25:10.140 Yep.

00:25:10.660 Where's our, we have any China music?

00:25:13.580 We have like a little.

00:25:15.700 Not quite.

00:25:16.800 Not quite.

00:25:17.780 Thanks, Caboose.

00:25:18.360 And 80%.

00:25:19.840 Let me just, let me just say to, to anyone who thinks that the Chinese have the ability 1.00

00:25:26.700 to take over, they're certainly not taking over this country.

00:25:29.920 They're certainly not taking over this podcast.

00:25:32.700 And another thing, I think they all want to go back to China.

00:25:39.780 And they can tell them what's going on.

00:25:44.920 What is that?

00:25:46.240 Is that one of those soundboard things again?

00:25:50.720 When the control room is laughing, that we can hear them through the glass.

00:25:53.580 The control room is out of control today.

00:25:55.820 Yeah, the soundboard is definitely killing all the bits we're trying to do tonight.

00:25:59.300 It's great.

00:26:01.120 Gauntlet's Road.

00:26:02.620 Music is good, but yeah, like the voices are not.

00:26:07.060 Oh, well, Jack has spoken.

00:26:08.600 It is hard to understand what those sound effects are.

00:26:13.600 So, do we, how about this though?

00:26:17.200 J.D. Vance is, I think he's sounding a better, a better tone, if you will.

00:26:24.040 This is, it's a little bit longer clip.

00:26:26.980 And that's all right.

00:26:28.000 All right.

00:26:28.200 Let's go to clip 186.

00:26:30.820 We let in about a million legal immigrants into the United States of America every single year.

00:26:35.420 And I think the evidence is pretty clear that a lot of those immigrants are actually undercutting the wages of American workers. 1.00

00:26:40.500 It's one of the reasons why the President of the United States, it's one of the reasons why the President of the United States and a lot of us in the administration have encouraged H-1B reform.

00:26:49.600 Because if you look at the H-1B visa, what it's supposed to be, what it's supposed to be is that you have a super genius who's studying at an American university, who's working at a great company.

00:27:01.100 You want that super genius to stay in the United States of America and not go somewhere else.

00:27:05.700 What it's actually used to do is hire an accountant at a 50% discount to an American citizen.

00:27:12.140 Because I don't think that we should be hiring accountants from foreign countries when we've got accountants right here in the United States that would love to work for a good wage.

00:27:22.420 Always on the money.

00:27:23.680 Huge.

00:27:24.840 Let's go.

00:27:25.680 End the scams.

00:27:26.660 Get it out.

00:27:27.460 End the scams.

00:27:28.140 I think that's where we all kind of come on this issue because you had Trump kind of sounding a different tone.

00:27:33.080 But that was connected to this 600,000 Chinese student visa holders also.

00:27:39.720 And I have to read into this a little bit.

00:27:42.520 So the timing of this interview, and then you have this press conference with Kash Patel, basically was it the next day or two days after, saying that China has agreed to cut off all these precursors to fentanyl.

00:27:54.860 So the sympathetic reading here is that Trump was trying not to scuttle a deal that was in the process of happening and wanted to send friendly vibes to President Xi.

00:28:05.500 Yeah, but I think you've got two different problems here, and that is the argument about, hey, do we want to have immigration for manual labor jobs, the jobs that actual Americans likely do not want to do, right? 0.56

00:28:18.880 Now, will they adjust if they have to?

00:28:20.560 Maybe.

00:28:21.400 But I think J.D.'s point, like, if we're talking about accountants, like, that's a good-paying job that Americans would be very happy to have.

00:28:30.640 I just think they're two very different conversations, and I think J.D. understands how to package that in a way.

00:28:36.000 Because when people hear that, it's not, oh, hotel workers.

00:28:38.920 It's not sanitation.

00:28:40.140 It's not landscapers or farmers.

00:28:43.360 It's legitimately, you know, somebody that's making close to six figures a year as an accountant.

00:28:47.760 Well, but I think the base, and maybe Blake, Jack, you guys have a different take on this.

00:28:52.740 I think the base is so sick of immigration that they just want, like, moratorium.

00:28:57.260 Full.

00:28:57.480 Full moratorium.

00:28:58.540 They want H-1Bs gone. 1.00

00:29:00.100 Even if I say genius visas. 0.98

00:29:01.840 That's a big part of it.

00:29:03.720 It's that, like, yes, you can come up with a justification for almost everything they do.

00:29:08.400 Yet we've heard these explanations for decades, and the clear long-run result is basically great replacement and tons of scams

00:29:17.020 and just this general displacement of the American people.

00:29:21.000 And as I was saying, a lot of where we're dependent on immigration or immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't do, 1.00

00:29:28.280 it's, like, actively because we brought in so many immigrants.

00:29:31.800 Like, there's a recent, I saw a recent article where a ski resort is claiming they need to bring in foreign workers,

00:29:37.880 I think guest workers in this case, to be ski bums at a ski mountain, 0.99

00:29:41.480 because no one in America is willing to ski, spend the winter skiing to be a ski bum.

00:29:47.260 No one in America, like, they'll probably do this for lifeguards at, like, nice beaches,

00:29:50.840 because no one in America is willing to work as a lifeguard.

00:29:53.320 We've never had a super popular TV show about Americans doing exactly that.

00:29:58.180 Like, we have actively messed up so many pipelines into work.

00:30:04.160 Like, you know, people will complain Americans don't do summer jobs anymore,

00:30:07.460 and yet we've actively kind of foreignized all of the jobs that young workers would do.

00:30:15.720 And we just, we, like, messed everything up.

00:30:19.760 And also, we changed our college admissions, so they require all this BS,

00:30:23.000 and you're not supposed to be working a job, you're supposed to be doing your BS for college admissions.

00:30:26.860 It's just absolute lunacy.

00:30:28.760 And, like, you look at that and say, yeah, sorry, we've gotten addicted to this bad thing.

00:30:32.760 The way you fix the addiction is you go cold turkey.

00:30:35.120 We got hooked on the heroin of, the heroin of Hindus, I guess, in the case of H-1Bs. 1.00

00:30:41.880 Yeah, and it's literally like, it's, well, I guess you would say Poppy in that case.

00:30:48.640 But it's literally just like, we've become worshipers of the GDP.

00:30:53.760 Like, do conservatives actually care about conserving anything other than the GDP?

00:30:59.840 Like, the social order, or the social fabric, or patriotism, or our Christian background,

00:31:06.060 or our heritage, or any of these things.

00:31:08.080 Like, you talk to some of these guys, it's literally, they're like, oh, GDP, GDP, GDP.

00:31:13.260 First of all, the GDP doesn't even exist.

00:31:14.800 It's like, it's like an economic model.

00:31:16.800 It's not like a theory.

00:31:17.820 You can't go out and, like, take your portion of the GDP and invest it in the stock exchange.

00:31:22.240 The GDP is not a real thing.

00:31:24.220 Like, it's, it's literally, it's literally not real, bro.

00:31:27.820 So, you know, what is real is economic conditions.

00:31:30.120 You know, what else is real is quality of life and cost of living.

00:31:33.840 And all of these things are real.

00:31:35.860 And the GDP is not.

00:31:38.420 There are certain businesses that are doing well.

00:31:40.240 There are certain segments of the population that are doing well, typically older segments.

00:31:46.400 But no, it is not good for everybody out there.

00:31:49.620 And worship of the GDP is going to destroy the Republican Party, the conservative movement,

00:31:54.660 the MAGA movement, and ultimately the United States of America.

00:31:57.720 And I just want to be very clear about this.

00:31:59.920 我不在乎经济失负崩溃。

00:32:02.860 So, I just want to make sure everyone understands that.

00:32:06.840 Yeah, but I think the question is, do we really want.

00:32:08.700 I don't understand a word of it.

00:32:09.660 Do we really want a full moratorium?

00:32:11.860 And are people ready for the growing pains that are going to come from that?

00:32:14.920 Yeah, there's going to be a lot of economic disruption if we did a full moratorium.

00:32:17.460 Oh, the libertarian's coming out now.

00:32:19.340 Cliff's libertarian's coming out.

00:32:20.620 Listen, I've been radicalized on this in a good way.

00:32:22.440 You guys would be proud of me.

00:32:23.660 But no, I think, I think those growing pains would be a little tougher than people think.

00:32:27.720 Oh, they'd be.

00:32:28.540 We don't.

00:32:28.980 Here it comes.

00:32:29.720 Here it comes.

00:32:30.520 We don't know.

00:32:30.940 We don't have.

00:32:31.720 According to Ayn Rand.

00:32:34.700 We don't have the intestinal fortitude as a country to put up with it.

00:32:38.680 And the reason is, is that our media landscape would absolutely revolt.

00:32:42.420 So everybody, everybody, this is half the problem with our current dynamic.

00:32:46.420 We can't have nice things because the media tells us that everything's in disarray.

00:32:50.320 Trump is screwing everything up.

00:32:52.160 Ah, all hell's breaking loose.

00:32:54.080 And really, like, if you're just, like, driving to work and driving home, hanging out with your kids,

00:32:57.180 you have no idea what the heck they're talking about.

00:32:58.780 But then you get on social media and you're just like, everything's crazy and everything's awful.

00:33:03.100 Oh.

00:33:03.760 And we would instantly reverse course.

00:33:06.020 And then weak Republicans in the House and, you know, Rand Paul would start saying we need to pass a law to make it so that, you know, people can't do X, Y, Z.

00:33:14.260 I mean, that is the truth.

00:33:15.800 We do not have the ability to take dramatic action, it seems, in very many ways at all, actually.

00:33:22.560 And it takes essentially a decade to shut the border down.

00:33:25.560 That's what it is.

00:33:26.240 It took a decade of us having one of the most dramatic political fights of Trump's 1.0, his exile, and Trump 2.0 for us to finally, as a country, go,

00:33:38.400 OK, we probably don't like this.

00:33:39.800 We're going to actually shut it down.

00:33:40.960 Otherwise, we can't have nice things.

00:33:42.700 So you can't do H-1B reform, you can't do actual legal immigration reform without building a consensus over about a decade.

00:33:50.720 Because if not, then the media will just tell you everything's awful.

00:33:53.580 And people will believe it.

00:33:54.460 Well, and this debate reminds me of the big Trump moment at the first debate against Hillary, or one of them, in 2016, where he says, you know, the famous line,

00:34:05.660 well, you've been in office for 40 years, and you know how I know you're not going to change the tax code?

00:34:11.800 Because of your donors.

00:34:13.580 Your donors do very well.

00:34:16.120 Yes, that's why I do well in the tax code, too.

00:34:18.360 But he does this whole thing, and Dave Chappelle, there's a whole bit about how he was like, what did Trump just say?

00:34:24.880 Like, that's speaking for the people.

00:34:27.060 That's the battle right now, which is you're going to have tons of CEOs, business owners, different people that are going to be pushing the president and the administration to actually come out and say, listen, we need workers at our hotels.

00:34:39.820 We need workers in the farms. 0.98

00:34:42.580 And then you have the base of America First saying, no, we want no more of this immigration stuff. 1.00

00:34:49.740 We want to pause it.

00:34:50.940 And I think those are the two forces.

00:34:52.700 Yeah.

00:34:53.600 I think it's corporations.

00:34:55.160 Corporations are the ones that, yeah.

00:34:57.700 It's easy to blame the corporations, but, you know, kind of an interesting thing I was reading just a few days ago that got pointed out.

00:35:04.460 It's another way that H-1B stuff actually has screwed everything up. 0.98

00:35:07.920 And it's if you look at, it actually squares with some of the economic turbulence people have talked about lately, where if you look at the economic data, things are still pretty good if you're an older worker, like an established professional.

00:35:22.360 The economy is kind of humming along fine.

00:35:24.120 There's actually a good number of job openings.

00:35:25.760 Where it's really bad is entry-level workers, the workers just out of college.

00:35:31.040 And yet they're still saying we need to bring in a bunch of foreign workers because they can't fill jobs.

00:35:34.680 And it's kind of true because where we have a bottleneck is specifically entry-level jobs.

00:35:40.580 And this is partly a product of what Charlie would love to talk about, which is college being a scam.

00:35:44.740 You don't learn useful things in college.

00:35:48.600 Even if you're studying a technical field, you don't really learn how to do the jobs in that field getting that degree.

00:35:54.880 You learn those by getting entry-level jobs in that field.

00:35:57.980 You learn to be a programmer by being a programmer.

00:36:01.020 You learn to be an engineer by being an engineer.

00:36:02.780 You learn to work in media by working in media.

00:36:04.940 All of those things.

00:36:05.720 You need to get an entry-level job.

00:36:07.480 And those are bad.

00:36:08.940 And the availability of those is bad.

00:36:13.140 But yet it's almost a meme that there's infinite jobs out there that require five years experience in something.

00:36:19.540 And what we've gotten ourselves into here is we've gotten ourselves into this H-1B situation 0.88

00:36:24.640 where companies have very little incentive to provide training, to provide that sort of thankless, on-the-job training for people

00:36:32.260 because then an employee can just leave.

00:36:36.000 And so they just decide everyone should just already know how to do the job when we're going to hire them.

00:36:39.340 Oh, no Americans know how to do this. 1.00

00:36:40.900 Let's just bring in more H-1Bs. 1.00

00:36:42.460 So an actual policy thing we need to do is we need to make it so a company has an incentive to just train new people to do their job.

00:36:50.540 And it's not like we're unable to do this because we actually have a pretty big institution in America

00:36:54.320 that is able to train Americans to do jobs. 0.98

00:36:56.840 Even kind of dumb Americans, even Americans who, like, might only have a high school education 0.98

00:37:01.720 and we still need to train them to do technical things. 0.99

00:37:04.040 And it's called the U.S. military.

00:37:05.900 The U.S. military trains random people of below-average intelligence all the time to do complex stuff.

00:37:13.280 And honestly, I suspect the reason is just because they can sign you up for four years and you just can't leave.

00:37:18.180 You can't quit.

00:37:19.040 You get in trouble if you leave.

00:37:20.080 Blake, you know there's an IQ test when you join the military, right?

00:37:24.100 Yeah, but is that demanding, Jack?

00:37:26.840 Well, yeah.

00:37:29.120 There's literally nuclear engineers in the military.

00:37:32.840 Yes, but there's also, like, guys with no college degree.

00:37:36.260 I bet not every single guy on a submarine needs to be that smart to work on the nuclear submarine.

00:37:42.860 Well, you are if you're working in the nuclear power plant.

00:37:48.620 Maybe, but it's probably not as smart as you need to be to get a Ph.D. in nuclear engineering.

00:37:53.060 There are people with Ph.D.s in nuclear engineering in the military, Blake.

00:37:56.840 There are.

00:37:57.700 There are.

00:37:58.300 But I bet you don't need to have one to work on the nuclear submarine, including in the nuclear stuff.

00:38:04.920 Military trains people do complex stuff all the time.

00:38:07.460 The point that I'm making is that actually there is a sorting process when you join the military so that they test people's intelligence, which is kind of like illegal in like every other field.

00:38:18.520 I know we've talked about this before, where they actually can, you know, they do sort people by intelligence.

00:38:24.300 And they say, OK, you know, you're this type of age range called the ASVAP on the enlisted side.

00:38:29.500 So you're you're in this age range, IQ range.

00:38:33.400 So we're going to put you here.

00:38:34.540 You're going to be over here.

00:38:35.660 You're here, et cetera, et cetera.

00:38:37.240 And it's something that actually works.

00:38:38.920 You know, when it's done with the right, you know, when you take like the DEI quotients and all that randomness out of it, it actually can be used really, really well because you can find like certain people just don't have what it takes to be a nuclear engineer.

00:38:52.040 And in fact, you can test that while while testing someone's intelligence, you don't have to just like put them through the pipeline and see what happens.

00:38:59.540 And so I think it's actually something that we should look to as, you know, probably a pretty good model for, you know, just the rest of these things that we're talking about.

00:39:08.240 Like, for example, I don't know the workforce.

00:39:10.420 You know, what's interesting as well is that this is brought up brought back up Vivek Ramaswamy's Christmas Saved by the Bell infamous tweet.

00:39:24.880 And you know what I didn't realize is that that tweet, that original one that caused all that kerfuffle in December, has 125 million engagements.

00:39:38.860 What?

00:39:39.700 On X and Twitter.

00:39:42.100 Huge.

00:39:43.000 Throw up image, throw up image 345.

00:39:48.400 And this is a, this was a snippet of it.

00:39:53.260 He says, the reason top tech companies often hire foreign born and first generation engineers over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation.

00:40:03.580 I don't know who was suggesting that it was an IQ deficit.

00:40:06.400 So that was interesting.

00:40:07.780 A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture.

00:40:11.300 Tough questions demand tough answers.

00:40:13.180 And if we're really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth, all caps.

00:40:18.460 I mean, do we think that the American culture, Blake, you're saying that the H-1B problem is self-perpetuating, that it creates its own problem.

00:40:29.020 When we, when we drown out certain industries with foreign born workers, American workers either get priced out or they no longer go into those fields because they're looked at as foreign based fields.

00:40:40.120 Is there an innate culture problem that we have?

00:40:46.720 I think like culture to some extent is created by, it's almost an unintended side effect of a bunch of choices we make.

00:40:55.560 And, you know, it's often commented, one of the issues, one of the things people complain about with H-1Bs is they will say, like, a company will let in a few H-1Bs, maybe a lot of them are from specifically India, and then over time, it just gets more and more foreign, and eventually it's like a foreign shop.

00:41:12.400 Well, that's a real cultural issue, because, you know, you probably reach a tipping point there, where if it's 75% people of foreign origin, now it's like, why would I want to go work there, where a lot of the guys, maybe they don't even talk in English when they're in the office, they prefer to speak a different language. 0.99

00:41:29.400 It's just very alienating. They may sort of see you in a hostile way. There's all of these dynamics that go on, and then when that happens at a society-wide level, you eventually have a different country, and when you're doing this to important skilled fields, which a lot of the stuff that we do with H-1Bs is important stuff that's important for our most, like, sophisticated and advanced and technical companies, you're messing up the whole country. 0.93

00:41:56.580 And we have, because we've made it so easy to bring in foreigners for those highly technical fields, we've basically de-skilled the American population in a way that's really damaging. 0.86

00:42:09.840 And I think, you know, we're focusing on the H-1Bs a lot, because that's been the meme, that's what people talk about, but I think, you know, we also have that other Trump clip with the 600,000 Chinese students.

00:42:20.180 I think it's as bad there. The fact that we've made it so easy for colleges to bring in more foreigners to fill their PhD programs, I think is a huge issue.

00:42:30.380 And a big reason the colleges do it is just so they can pay PhDs less to be adjunct professors.

00:42:37.440 It's absolutely insane to me that we would devalue PhDs for Americans, like, super highly skilled work, just so that, you know, freaking Tufts University can pay an adjunct professor $40,000 a year instead of $55,000 a year, or whatever amount it is.

00:42:55.860 I think you just hit on something that's actually, it's the college scam that's behind a lot of this, because the universities can't pay full, native-born students don't pay full freight.

00:43:05.480 Like, guess who does? The Chinese students. And they'll pay full freight, not at the top universities, they'll pay it at the B and the C list universities. 1.00

00:43:12.940 So that's happening a lot. A lot of these student visa problems, when you talk about this clip, 600,000 Chinese students, they're coming over and they're basically keeping the lights on at a lot of these universities.

00:43:24.600 Yeah, yeah, excellent take. And then on top of that, just to defend Trump a little bit, the president, our universities are failing our students here in America.

00:43:33.040 Like, we're just not producing the type of students that can qualify for jobs like this.

00:43:38.940 And instead of it actually being like an in-depth PhD or degree, it would be, you know, the sociology and understanding of accounting for lesbians.

00:43:50.000 And these are like the degrees that you're getting instead of actually like producing good students or trade schools, which is what Charlie used to advocate for.

00:43:58.240 Let me make, I don't think I've ever talked about this. Before I got in politics, I was a math teacher. Do you guys know that?

00:44:04.220 I don't know if I've said that on the air.

00:44:05.080 I don't know if you have, actually.

00:44:05.880 Mr. Maloney. I was with a daze.

00:44:07.520 You would be a great math teacher.

00:44:09.060 It was a lot of fun.

00:44:09.920 I'd listen.

00:44:10.700 Here's a really interesting thing. I was teaching in like central western Pennsylvania, and I had one Chinese student.

00:44:16.760 Now, he has since graduated.

00:44:17.780 Wait a minute. That's not true. They don't teach math in Pennsylvania public schools.

00:44:22.560 Okay, let me get to the punchline.

00:44:24.320 So, this is fifth grade, and I just always remember this cultural moment where, and this is such a bad stereotype.

00:44:32.440 His family owned like the one Chinese restaurant in town.

00:44:36.120 It's a very white town, yes.

00:44:37.420 And I went there one time for dinner after school, a couple buddies of mine from college, and I walk in, and he's literally in my fifth grade class, and, you know, he comes running up, says, hello, hey, Mr. Maloney, and his parents were very happy to see me,

00:44:56.520 but they made it very clear that he was not to be interrupted until his homework was done, and he had to finish the homework before he could eat, and I just, that was such a cultural moment for me.

00:45:05.900 I know it's like very much like the stereotype moment, but you think that's happening with any type of American-born student.

00:45:13.200 I mean, yeah, there are some great parents out there doing good things, but the cultural difference is just, you can see it, and I think the discipline that a lot of these cultures have, we just, we don't have it as a whole.

00:45:24.680 We really don't, and by the way, they're poor of the poor.

00:45:28.180 They're not like, you know, people that are very well-to-do sending their kids to some great school.

00:45:32.180 So I don't look at it like that, because if you look at it like that with, you know, let's say white Americans, or, you know, your everyday blue-collar American,

00:45:40.380 I think it's even worse the lower you go in the socioeconomic statuses, because there's just no, it's such a lack of discipline that the other cultures have. 1.00

00:45:49.420 Well, to your point, it's kind of depressing.

00:45:51.800 If you throw up image 239, this is UCSD's Math 2 course teaches grade school math, that's grades 1 through 8, to freshmen.

00:46:00.660 So UCSD, UCSD is ranked as the nation's fifth best public university.

00:46:09.020 And so 25 per student's got this problem wrong.

00:46:12.900 7 plus 2 equals blank plus 6.

00:46:15.940 What is that?

00:46:16.660 What is that, Cliff?

00:46:18.040 What is it?

00:46:18.620 I'm not a biologist.

00:46:20.100 So 7 plus 2 equals blank plus 6.

00:46:23.160 Let me see the box.

00:46:24.000 Let me zoom in here.

00:46:26.120 Is it 3?

00:46:27.540 Dude, seriously?

00:46:28.480 No, he's a math teacher.

00:46:29.960 There he goes.

00:46:31.200 Is it 3?

00:46:32.140 61% of students, a large majority, couldn't round 374,518 to the nearest 100.

00:46:42.820 That would be 374,500.

00:46:46.240 It's been many years since Mr. Maloney's Math teaching day.

00:46:48.860 37% of students.

00:46:50.080 Hold on, for the record.

00:46:51.040 I was kidding.

00:46:51.780 I knew the answer was 3.

00:46:53.080 They're going to clip that and I'm going to lose my license.

00:46:56.160 Zoom in.

00:46:56.760 It was, you didn't have your spectacles on.

00:46:59.320 There you go.

00:46:59.840 37% of students couldn't subtract fractions.

00:47:03.560 So this is like, you know, I mean, I look at this and I have no problem.

00:47:08.620 I can subtract fractions.

00:47:10.000 But that does suggest at a top five public university in the country that majorities of students couldn't round to the nearest hundred.

00:47:21.280 Yeah.

00:47:21.400 And listen, math is going to be our biggest problem because if you miss a couple history lessons, but you, you know, get engaged later in life.

00:47:27.720 This suggests that the problem is arising in high school, in middle school, in elementary school.

00:47:33.120 Well, the problem, I mean, the problem is it's so many levels and especially with the UC schools.

00:47:38.820 What's not kind of being talked about with this going viral, but we 100% know it happened.

00:47:43.260 So California bans race-based affirmative action officially under their law due to that thing in the 90s.

00:47:51.120 They tried to get rid of it in 2020 and in the same election where, you know, they went for Joe Biden by 30 points or whatever, they failed.

00:47:57.880 They failed to repeal that.

00:47:58.980 It was very funny.

00:47:59.820 They tried, they tried to ram it through and everyone was like, no, I don't like racial discrimination.

00:48:04.480 So the UC system, what they do is they just try to scam this system because what they do is they have the data for who goes to different high schools and they just start letting people in who are totally not qualified for certain schools if they go to the right high schools.

00:48:21.120 And a big reason they do this is they, I'll just say it.

00:48:24.020 They want to increase the Hispanic percentage at a lot of the UC schools.

00:48:27.680 So UC San Diego has just been caught where they're freezing out.

00:48:33.380 Ole! 1.00

00:48:35.720 Jack is totally checked out.

00:48:38.700 No, I actually think Cliff is wrong.

00:48:44.020 I am wrong?

00:48:45.940 Yeah, no, put that question back up.

00:48:49.140 The original one.

00:48:51.120 No, it's not the right answer.

00:48:53.180 Seven plus two?

00:48:54.180 Yeah, it's not the right answer.

00:48:55.040 It's not the right answer.

00:48:56.040 Throw it up.

00:48:56.600 Throw it up, studio. 0.93

00:48:57.640 Not the right answer.

00:49:00.160 Nine equals what plus six?

00:49:01.420 It's very obvious.

00:49:02.440 It's very obvious that the right answer is.

00:49:05.820 I can't believe you guys can't see it.

00:49:07.820 It's right in front of your faces.

00:49:09.960 Fill in the box.

00:49:11.120 Oh, is it 15?

00:49:12.680 I can't even see the screen.

00:49:13.700 The correct answer is obviously, the correct answer is obviously six, seven.

00:49:19.660 Six, seven.

00:49:20.580 Right there.

00:49:21.400 Let's get into PEMDAS. 0.87

00:49:23.220 Dive in.

00:49:23.760 Six, seven.

00:49:24.620 Let's go.

00:49:25.460 Shame.

00:49:28.460 Shame.

00:49:29.400 I really thought my career was over.

00:49:30.940 I was literally like, I was like, we're going to have to edit this whole thing out, aren't we?

00:49:34.660 We're going to just take the stream down to save Cliff Maloney's career.

00:49:38.440 Mikey, they don't, Mikey, these boomers don't get it. 0.88

00:49:41.020 They don't get it.

00:49:41.660 Six, seven.

00:49:42.440 Six, seven.

00:49:43.100 Oh, I have a seven-year-old.

00:49:45.060 Stop saying six, seven.

00:49:46.740 He's only six, two.

00:49:48.820 It's not funny.

00:49:51.660 Oh, man.

00:49:52.540 Okay.

00:49:54.420 But Angela goes, it's live.

00:49:56.260 You can't edit it out.

00:49:58.260 Thanks, Angela.

00:50:01.380 Andrew's like, I'm revealing too much.

00:50:04.700 He pops a smoke grenade and disappears.

00:50:07.920 So, Angela brings up a really good point.

00:50:10.020 This is, I think, the crux of the argument.

00:50:11.660 Here, philosophically, it feels like the base is at an inflection point, right?

00:50:19.460 Are we going to burn down the institutions, or is it still worth trying to reform them?

00:50:24.400 You can reform them.

00:50:25.740 Maybe.

00:50:28.380 By the way, half the chat is saying, I knew he was going to say six, seven.

00:50:32.440 And the other half is like, what is six, seven?

00:50:34.380 Accurate.

00:50:37.080 Very accurate.

00:50:38.200 Six, seven.

00:50:38.940 Six, seven.

00:50:39.820 Six, seven.

00:50:40.960 Mikey, you need to explain to everybody.

00:50:43.140 Mikey, it's not funny.

00:50:44.060 He's only six, two.

00:50:45.140 I'll explain, guys.

00:50:47.140 Six, seven.

00:50:48.560 Six, seven.

00:50:49.900 That's literally all right.

00:50:52.480 Why did they?

00:50:53.080 I don't understand how that even caught.

00:50:54.600 It means six, seven.

00:50:55.260 I now no longer support helping Gen Z turn itself around after this meeting. 1.00

00:51:04.780 Because I have spent time with Mikey.

00:51:06.940 All right.

00:51:12.900 Shall we?

00:51:13.400 I think we've hit the, we've, I don't know if we want to answer that question.

00:51:16.960 Can we save the institutions, Blake?

00:51:18.900 Maybe that's a Blake question. 0.98

00:51:20.560 I would, I would probably burn them to the ground. 0.99

00:51:22.380 Like when Trump says half our colleges would close if we, if we cut off the Chinese students. 1.00

00:51:27.360 Good.

00:51:28.280 Good.

00:51:28.760 A large number of universities and colleges just should be obliterated. 0.99

00:51:33.620 They have become an absolute parasite upon the American body politic. 0.94

00:51:38.300 We're just, we're making it where to have a normal life, you have to divert four years

00:51:42.940 into a school that we know at this point doesn't teach you many important things.

00:51:48.820 Yet it's like socially required to get married or to have good dating prospects or just to be

00:51:55.380 clubbable.

00:51:55.920 It just, it's clearly become this bizarre thing that has greatly metastasized beyond what

00:52:01.940 it was useful for.

00:52:02.760 It costs a ton of money.

00:52:04.580 It's sucking up actually a lot of talented people who could work in a real field to work

00:52:09.320 instead at places that kind of produce not a lot and just, no, we need to obliterate these

00:52:14.860 things, blow them to smithereens, be like merit-based, have people get actual jobs again that actually

00:52:20.840 make things that teach useful skills.

00:52:23.180 And just, we need to, we need a cleansing of this country.

00:52:28.700 A great cleansing.

00:52:29.740 A great purge, if you will.

00:52:31.820 Wait, I'm starting, I'm getting a message in now that's pro soundboard.

00:52:36.740 Throw it out to the chat.

00:52:38.000 I am in the chat, by the way.

00:52:41.520 What does the chat think about the soundboard?

00:52:44.160 Can you understand it?

00:52:45.240 Do you think it's funny?

00:52:46.500 Six, seven.

00:52:47.240 Oh, yes.

00:52:49.360 Still my favorite.

00:52:50.460 Yeah.

00:52:50.780 All right.

00:52:51.220 No, that one is good because it's established.

00:52:53.280 The Sobrero is established.

00:52:55.380 The Bollywood is established.

00:52:57.600 Established sounds are good.

00:52:59.040 Jack's part of the establishment.

00:53:00.400 You got to watch him.

00:53:00.920 I disagree with, I agree with Blake that I want them to.

00:53:04.880 Yeah.

00:53:05.120 Okay.

00:53:05.480 I ran, I ran boy.

00:53:06.840 Here we go.

00:53:08.940 You, these things are never going to end until they stop getting funded.

00:53:14.100 The money is going to be the problem.

00:53:15.840 And this is not just Democrat problem.

00:53:17.560 This is Republicans as well.

00:53:18.740 We keep funding these higher ed institutions.

00:53:21.480 And Charlie always said this, and I never realized how accurate he was about the donor class.

00:53:26.120 You ask the donor class, are colleges indoctrinating their students?

00:53:30.740 100% of them say yes.

00:53:33.000 Then you ask them, are you still giving money to your alma mater?

00:53:36.300 And they all say the same thing.

00:53:37.880 Yeah.

00:53:38.100 Well, my school, there's a sentimental connection.

00:53:41.640 You see, it's different.

00:53:42.320 It's just like Congress.

00:53:43.520 Everybody hates Congress, but not their congressman, right?

00:53:46.560 They're different.

00:53:47.200 We know him.

00:53:48.020 He's a nice guy.

00:53:49.400 It will not implode if we keep funding it with federal dollars, state dollars.

00:53:54.940 That's the only way you end kind of the charade.

00:53:57.060 The only industry where the cost of the product goes like this, and the value of what you're

00:54:02.580 getting goes like this.

00:54:04.440 It's just, it's unsustainable.

00:54:06.200 And we keep funding it.

00:54:07.400 Excellent.

00:54:08.520 So you guys don't disagree.

00:54:09.120 The chat is completely against me.

00:54:11.020 The chat is completely pro soundboard.

00:54:13.660 I have been destroyed.

00:54:14.820 It's over.

00:54:15.600 It's over for Poso.

00:54:17.920 Poso is done.

00:54:20.380 It's the end of Poso, guys.

00:54:21.980 This is, I'm checking out.

00:54:24.560 Checking out.

00:54:25.440 Also, nobody yelled at Andrew for wearing a suit on ThoughtCrime.

00:54:28.720 It's breaking our rules.

00:54:29.680 Breaking all the rules.

00:54:30.560 You know what it is?

00:54:30.900 He's wearing a suit on ThoughtCrime?

00:54:33.180 I didn't even know that was a rule.

00:54:34.280 I know, right?

00:54:35.420 It's really tiny.

00:54:36.780 I can't see it.

00:54:37.520 Okay, so this whole Arizona, we talk about time zones.

00:54:40.520 Here's the thing with Arizona is that everybody over air conditions everything.

00:54:45.300 And so I'm constantly cold.

00:54:47.320 And it's a problem.

00:54:48.860 Okay?

00:54:49.180 It's cold because you're in a studio.

00:54:52.340 Are you saying you're a little chilly, Andrew?

00:54:53.960 Do you need a blanket?

00:54:55.280 Andrew is a little chilly.

00:54:56.900 He's coming after Cliff.

00:54:58.740 He's coming after the soundboard.

00:55:00.300 He's coming after me.

00:55:01.400 Andrew is a little bit chilly, Widowdy. 1.00

00:55:05.120 Andrew is just a little bit cold in the studio.

00:55:08.680 It is very cold in here, though.

00:55:10.260 It's cold.

00:55:11.040 Can someone get Andrew some hot cocoa?

00:55:13.300 Do you want the little marshmallows?

00:55:15.200 All right.

00:55:15.820 It is cold, though.

00:55:17.000 All right, listen.

00:55:17.720 I think this is a good time to go to the next topic, which is women in the military.

00:55:25.260 Oh, we're back on the military again.

00:55:28.060 Oh, boy.

00:55:28.480 Speaking of room temperature.

00:55:30.100 Speaking of people, we're not talking about your IQ, Jack.

00:55:34.740 It's very simple.

00:55:35.060 Come on.

00:55:35.200 Let's get up.

00:55:36.480 It's very simple.

00:55:37.360 Women are wrong about the temperature. 1.00

00:55:41.300 Men need the cool. 1.00

00:55:43.560 Men need cool. 1.00

00:55:44.380 What's the thermostat at in your house, Jack?

00:55:46.260 Temperature.

00:55:47.360 Temperature.

00:55:48.000 It is at 68 when I'm home.

00:55:51.640 That's cold.

00:55:52.520 But something interesting happens when I go to work and come back because I see 70 and above.

00:56:01.520 I see 72s.

00:56:03.000 I see 73s.

00:56:04.640 I, on occasion, see 75s.

00:56:07.520 And that simply will not do.

00:56:10.740 That simply will not do.

00:56:13.780 We usually keep the studio temperature around 6, 7.

00:56:17.620 Yeah, keep it right around 6, 7.

00:56:20.980 I think that's the sweet spot.

00:56:22.780 I keep my apartment at, like, 78.

00:56:25.880 I actually keep it pretty warm.

00:56:27.580 And Jack's reaction.

00:56:32.800 Don't they say that if it's easy.

00:56:34.500 I need to see Chad's evaluation of this.

00:56:37.420 Don't they say that in night, everyone ACs need to keep it cool for the production of testosterone?

00:56:41.680 Did you know Taylor Swift keeps her thermostat at 80 degrees?

00:56:46.040 Checked out.

00:56:47.180 Checked out.

00:56:47.780 Where did you find that information?

00:56:49.440 Is that before it?

00:56:50.180 You just asked Gronk, what does Taylor Swift mean?

00:56:54.980 No, I was trying to think. 0.89

00:56:55.940 What's that crazy former Washington Post journalist, the lizard lady? 1.00

00:56:59.860 Taylor Lorenz. 0.96

00:57:00.760 What?

00:57:01.320 Taylor Lorenz.

00:57:02.320 Yeah, she keeps her thermostat at, like, 86.

00:57:06.100 I can't believe I'm going to admit this on air.

00:57:08.400 So I've been up and down about 100 pounds over my last couple, like, five years, like, gaining and losing.

00:57:14.560 And I'm probably the lower of where I've been.

00:57:17.560 When I was, like, a big, big boy.

00:57:20.060 Yeah, a lot of tasty cakes.

00:57:21.460 A lot of sugar in the Wawa iced tea.

00:57:24.700 When I was a big boy, I mean, I would keep it very, very cold.

00:57:27.660 But it's funny.

00:57:28.280 Like, the more weight I lose, like, in the hotel rooms, like, I used to be, like, a 67, 6 to 7 type guy.

00:57:35.300 I don't mind it sometimes with a 70 or 71.

00:57:37.940 It's not too bad.

00:57:38.760 I get cold.

00:57:39.620 Like, I got less on me.

00:57:40.820 72 and sunny is literally the ideal human temperature.

00:57:44.180 I don't understand.

00:57:45.500 Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:46.820 Listen.

00:57:47.160 High temperature.

00:57:47.780 No.

00:57:48.100 High temperature is low-tea behavior.

00:57:49.740 Correct.

00:57:50.420 High temperature is low-tea behavior.

00:57:51.920 Yes.

00:57:52.660 72 is not hot.

00:57:55.460 That's California.

00:57:56.360 You're just every...

00:57:57.340 No, it's expansive.

00:57:59.180 It's expansive.

00:57:59.600 So the hotter you go, the lower the tea.

00:58:03.560 Well, I'm...

00:58:05.020 I don't know.

00:58:05.720 I feel like I have a lot of tea in some hot countries.

00:58:07.180 When did this become hot?

00:58:08.640 I reject the premise.

00:58:10.140 You're, like, setting the benchmark it like this obscenely cold...

00:58:13.640 Are you saying temperature has no effect on testosterone?

00:58:16.620 I'm saying that 72 versus 68 is four degrees, and it's not that much.

00:58:21.400 Jack, what do you have to say about hot tubs?

00:58:25.920 I mean, for a limited time only.

00:58:28.040 Like, you set it, you go in, then you get out.

00:58:32.340 Do you like hot tubs, Andrew?

00:58:34.880 Yeah.

00:58:35.400 I'm very pro hot tubs.

00:58:36.720 I literally have the search feature on Airbnb.

00:58:39.020 That's, like, the one thing I put in.

00:58:40.400 If I'm, like, going to get an Airbnb, I'd love just that 15 minutes in the hot tub.

00:58:43.720 This is new to me, because you came, and you're like, Arizona doesn't have hot tubs.

00:58:47.420 That's the one thing I miss about California.

00:58:49.460 Yeah.

00:58:49.740 No, it's weird.

00:58:51.300 Everywhere's got a pool, but no hot tubs.

00:58:53.300 But what's funny is that nobody has heating for the pool.

00:58:57.020 And, like, right now, what is it?

00:58:58.520 November 13th?

00:58:59.540 What are we at right now?

00:59:00.120 And it's too cold to go in the pools without heated pools, in my opinion, unless you want to go...

00:59:05.860 You're saying in Arizona?

00:59:06.780 Yeah, Arizona.

00:59:07.440 So you really only use your pool during, like, when it's 120 up or 110 up.

00:59:11.980 Yeah.

00:59:12.700 That's basically the culture around it.

00:59:14.280 Yeah.

00:59:15.100 Everybody's got pools, but nobody uses them during this time of year, and there's no hot tubs to use.

00:59:18.900 I do a cold plunge.

00:59:21.060 Charlie used to get addicted to cold plunge.

00:59:23.060 Charlie was big on cold plunges.

00:59:24.540 But...

00:59:24.780 And then he stopped.

00:59:25.500 No, he stopped because it screwed up his central nervous system.

00:59:28.640 Yeah, he was like, it spikes cortisone levels if you don't do it right.

00:59:33.960 So it was actually...

00:59:35.500 He was doing it too much, right?

00:59:36.820 He was doing it a little too much.

00:59:38.280 Who inspired him?

00:59:39.580 Tony...

00:59:40.060 Robbins?

00:59:40.800 Tony Robbins.

00:59:41.640 Tony Robbins.

00:59:42.300 Tony Robbins inspired him.

00:59:43.520 So he met with Tony, and Tony told him, you should do this.

00:59:46.720 It's really good.

00:59:47.320 So he got really into it.

00:59:49.020 And then, all of a sudden, he started having this medical condition where he couldn't...

00:59:52.760 Remember, he was like...

00:59:53.480 It was almost like vertigo.

00:59:55.740 And the doctor...

00:59:57.040 So he goes to all these specialists.

00:59:58.200 What's wrong with you?

00:59:58.960 What's wrong with you?

00:59:59.560 Because, you know, Charlie's got a very active life.

01:00:01.300 He's speaking.

01:00:02.300 He's doing this.

01:00:03.200 He's got to do this and that.

01:00:05.020 And then, all of a sudden, he couldn't stand up.

01:00:06.420 And he just had to basically sit down.

01:00:08.580 And it was...

01:00:09.300 They identified that it was probably, most likely, the cold plunges that were screwing up.

01:00:13.600 Do you remember this?

01:00:15.020 Yeah.

01:00:15.800 Yeah.

01:00:16.620 All right.

01:00:17.000 Maybe it was something else.

01:00:18.040 Yeah.

01:00:18.320 No, you're right.

01:00:20.000 Anyway, so I've never even delved into the cold plunge because, A, it sounds terrible.

01:00:24.200 But, B, when Charlie had those issues.

01:00:26.680 Because he was starting to tempt me.

01:00:28.140 I was like, oh, man.

01:00:28.780 Maybe I need to start with cold showers or something in the morning.

01:00:31.300 Do you guys do cold showers in the morning?

01:00:33.180 Everybody says you've got to do cold showers in the morning.

01:00:35.340 No.

01:00:35.720 No.

01:00:36.060 No.

01:00:36.360 I don't do that.

01:00:36.760 No.

01:00:37.500 All of these things...

01:00:38.480 I'm going to go back to where I was.

01:00:39.900 Almost all of these things are memes because people...

01:00:42.400 Yeah.

01:00:42.540 They're woo-woo.

01:00:43.060 Just people want to think there's more super hacks that they can do.

01:00:47.560 And so they come up with strange nonsense where, like, yeah, cold plunges, they just

01:00:53.080 don't...

01:00:53.540 If you like a cold plunge, I guess go for it.

01:00:55.540 But they don't do that much.

01:00:57.360 Cold showers...

01:00:58.220 No.

01:00:58.980 Mikey's disagreeing over here, Blake.

01:01:00.400 Black pill Blake at it again.

01:01:03.460 Blake used to disagree with Charlie about all this stuff.

01:01:06.560 Like supplements.

01:01:07.940 Yeah.

01:01:08.620 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:01:09.100 I told him the cold plunges were dumb. 0.88

01:01:11.020 And then Charlie had to quit doing the cold plunges. 0.97

01:01:12.880 And I told him...

01:01:13.480 Charlie was so healthy.

01:01:14.780 Charlie was literally the most healthy.

01:01:16.220 Charlie had all this weird health...

01:01:17.660 You know this is true.

01:01:18.880 Charlie was always complaining about weird stuff.

01:01:20.680 He got vertigo for, like, two weeks one time.

01:01:23.420 Well, that's what we're talking about.

01:01:24.620 He had, like, some, like, back issue or whatever.

01:01:26.460 Charlie had, like, endless weird minor health issues.

01:01:28.300 Because he worked harder than anybody else.

01:01:30.880 Well, you know where he actually got the back problems from?

01:01:32.980 Yeah, but you did.

01:01:33.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:34.440 You know where he got the back problems from?

01:01:35.880 I was actually with him in Los Angeles when his back, like, gave out.

01:01:40.220 But what it was, he was running, like, 10 or 12 miles.

01:01:44.160 This might have been before your time.

01:01:45.280 He just slipped on black ice, guys.

01:01:46.840 Well, so...

01:01:47.340 So he was running, like, 10 to 12 miles a day.

01:01:50.240 Regularly?

01:01:50.820 And then he was flying commercial, like, all across the country, across the country.

01:01:54.500 He would have, like, four commercial flights a day, every single day, like, every single

01:01:58.340 day of the year.

01:01:58.400 And then run, find a way to run 10 to 12 miles in a day.

01:02:01.440 Yeah.

01:02:01.760 And it was just too much.

01:02:02.640 And eventually his back just gave out.

01:02:04.400 At, like, 27, his back was toast.

01:02:08.680 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:09.560 He was the most healthy person.

01:02:11.220 I'm telling you.

01:02:11.840 How tall?

01:02:11.900 Period, end stop.

01:02:13.460 Almost 6'5".

01:02:14.300 Yeah, we're the same height.

01:02:15.800 I didn't know that.

01:02:17.180 I don't think people understand.

01:02:18.640 This is such a first world problem.

01:02:20.480 But being 6'5", and having to fly, I did not fly four flights a day.

01:02:25.000 But I probably fly, like, four or five flights, you know, every week, depending on what I'm

01:02:28.620 doing.

01:02:29.780 It is so taxing.

01:02:30.980 And, like, you can't complain to people that are not 6'5", because they just think, like,

01:02:34.540 I'm just being a pain.

01:02:35.820 But it's, like, when my legs are lodged into the seat in front of me, flying across the

01:02:40.720 country, like, it is miserable.

01:02:42.280 And, like, you can't.

01:02:43.040 Even today, flying here, I can't sit up straight, because the cushion, like, for your head,

01:02:48.680 where it breaks, you can pull it up a little bit.

01:02:51.100 But, like, it's on my shoulder blades.

01:02:53.900 So you have to sit hunched.

01:02:55.620 It's just horrendous.

01:02:56.160 You got those Viking genes, bro.

01:02:59.080 So this is something that happens, by the way, Cliff.

01:03:02.960 I know about this, because producer Foz, people know he used to, you know, we don't talk about

01:03:09.200 a ton, but he used to work with a lot of pro wrestlers.

01:03:13.880 And a lot of those pro wrestlers end up with that, like, bow-legged sort of odd walk where

01:03:22.140 they're doing that.

01:03:22.800 And people assume it's because of the wrestling, but it's actually because of the flying, is

01:03:27.500 according to our producer.

01:03:30.560 That it's because they're flying so much.

01:03:33.040 Yeah, he's here in the chat.

01:03:34.220 And he's just saying that, like, so you would see Hulk Hogan right before he died.

01:03:38.840 Obviously, a lot of heart issues there.

01:03:40.680 But, you know, all the flying, all the driving.

01:03:44.260 And you're exactly right.

01:03:45.420 It's that cramped up.

01:03:46.640 Yeah, there's a photo of, like, Andre the Giant, I think, you know, flying.

01:03:51.240 And he's, like, taking up the whole row, basically.

01:03:53.880 And it's just, it's, yeah, when you're that big, cramped up for so long, for so many hours,

01:03:58.620 it does mess you up.

01:03:59.740 Yeah.

01:04:00.500 Back to Charlie.

01:04:01.520 He was a million miler on every single airline.

01:04:04.560 He was always in a car.

01:04:05.760 He was always driving across the country.

01:04:07.560 He was always.

01:04:08.140 So you want to wonder why he had back problems?

01:04:10.240 That's why.

01:04:11.520 Wow.

01:04:11.860 Did you know, so Foz is kind of, like, going off in the chat right now.

01:04:15.360 Throw up this image, Studio.

01:04:17.260 This is one of those cryo.

01:04:19.720 Cryo freeze chambers.

01:04:20.980 Freeze cryotherapy.

01:04:22.240 Those are great.

01:04:23.160 So it burns three minutes of cryotherapy will burn 800 to 1,000 calories.

01:04:28.720 That's right.

01:04:29.320 Because of the energy your body expends trying to get you back to a normal temperature.

01:04:36.920 So is that woo-woo, Blake?

01:04:39.980 Yeah, it kind of sounds like woo-woo to me.

01:04:41.540 I mean, I'm going to guess it's probably fair.

01:04:42.560 Blake's going to say anything's woo-woo.

01:04:43.980 You can literally ask anything.

01:04:45.960 So the thing that always, like, strikes me about Charlie's health regimen, though,

01:04:49.700 was all the hot sauce.

01:04:52.620 Like, that can't beat them.

01:04:54.380 Too much hot sauce.

01:04:55.320 Charlie loved sauces.

01:04:57.180 He put sauces on everything.

01:04:59.420 Yeah.

01:04:59.820 He had, like, a sauce collection that he traveled with everywhere he went,

01:05:05.460 and it was in a separate bag, and it was, I'm not even kidding,

01:05:09.220 like 15 different sauces.

01:05:10.780 And he knew the different combinations.

01:05:12.820 He's like, with my chicken, I do two green, one red.

01:05:16.600 And it was good, too.

01:05:18.460 Charlie was like, wait, hold on, hold on.

01:05:20.720 Okay, hold on.

01:05:21.640 I'm now on the cryo bar cryotherapy.

01:05:25.080 This is a blog post they made from 2020.

01:05:28.540 Does cryotherapy burn calories?

01:05:30.900 And they say the burning of calories is unfortunately one of the lightly

01:05:35.300 researched benefits of cryotherapy.

01:05:38.880 So they basically say, you know, it might happen, maybe.

01:05:42.420 You guys big on hot sauce?

01:05:43.360 Yeah, I, for one, love hot sauce.

01:05:48.200 So I was, like, the most Irish, meat, potatoes, like, plain guy, no spices.

01:05:54.220 And then I got COVID in Florida, which COVID didn't really happen in Florida,

01:05:58.020 but I did get it.

01:05:59.540 That's where I got COVID.

01:06:00.280 I lost all of my, like, you know, I couldn't taste anything.

01:06:04.040 And so the only thing I could get a reaction from, this is how you know I'm an eater,

01:06:07.080 I'm a fat boy, was using hot sauce.

01:06:09.900 Because the hot sauce would at least give you something where you could get, you know,

01:06:12.740 something out of the food.

01:06:14.080 I eat a lot of hot sauce.

01:06:15.600 So apparently I'm low T because I like the thermostat at 72.

01:06:19.620 But I'm high T because I can eat a lot of hot sauce.

01:06:22.880 I can, I can, I can, I can, I can hang.

01:06:24.640 I know, it's, it's the Mexican. 0.99

01:06:25.860 You know what, it's so funny, like, ever since, like, everything happened and, like,

01:06:29.100 I have to be on TV more or whatever, and it's, like, all these people are, like,

01:06:32.120 he's, he looks Jewish, he looks super Jewish.

01:06:34.560 And then the other ones are, like, because of this show, they're always, like,

01:06:37.940 oh, he's quarter Mexican, so, you know.

01:06:40.680 Yeah.

01:06:42.420 There it is.

01:06:44.960 How does that make you feel?

01:06:46.060 Blake is in the chat just saying, woo, woo.

01:06:48.980 It's all, everyone just, they all want, they all want to come up with these,

01:06:54.380 like, weird, expensive medical hacks that they'll say, solve everything,

01:06:59.460 do these, like, extreme benefits.

01:07:01.580 It's the same thing they do with food where you're, like, oh,

01:07:04.120 I have to go to this special grocery store where all my food costs twice as much,

01:07:09.000 and then it gives me, like, super health, and I'm going to live forever.

01:07:12.960 All nonsense.

01:07:13.960 You just have to do the basics.

01:07:15.020 It's all the basics.

01:07:16.180 I love this.

01:07:16.900 Just do, like, you'll eat a box of 12 Krispy Kreme donuts.

01:07:22.300 Yeah, and it's great. 0.95

01:07:25.720 Yeah, just hit your freaking, hit your freaking protein thresholds, lift weights. 0.90

01:07:31.080 Yeah, like, what's your bench, Mikey? 0.96

01:07:33.240 What is it?

01:07:33.700 Blake, get out of here.

01:07:35.200 He's born after everybody.

01:07:37.880 Yeah, but who looks better?

01:07:39.400 Okay, we're discussing testosterone levels, and you know what causes male pattern baldness?

01:07:47.120 That's right.

01:07:48.580 And only one of us has this blinding paint here.

01:07:51.780 Only one of us has one of these.

01:07:52.740 You do look good, Blake.

01:07:53.960 Yeah.

01:07:55.380 Cliff is coming in.

01:07:56.960 Yeah, Cliff, I'll listen to that.

01:07:58.240 Blake, you weren't on when Jack called me out on live television saying that I need to shave my head.

01:08:03.980 Very nice friend to Jack.

01:08:05.060 You should.

01:08:05.640 You should.

01:08:06.660 Increase your power level.

01:08:08.320 However, I also took Blake to a bar, and we met that nice Mexican cop, and he was telling Blake that he should go to Tijuana to get a hair transplant.

01:08:20.200 Wait, where's the music?

01:08:20.920 He did.

01:08:21.520 Oh, man, I forgot about that guy.

01:08:23.480 That was really funny.

01:08:25.020 Blake, what do you guys think?

01:08:26.800 Send Blake and Cliff down to TJ for the hair transplant.

01:08:30.400 We filmed the whole thing.

01:08:32.180 Guys, we're sitting on money here.

01:08:35.680 That's a bunch of woo-woo. 1.00

01:08:38.140 It probably is.

01:08:39.380 It probably is.

01:08:40.340 I refuse to believe.

01:08:41.540 He took his hat off, and he showed his giant full head of hair, and he's like, yeah, I used to look like you until I went down to Tijuana, and there, now I look like this.

01:08:55.840 Blake, you could benefit from this.

01:08:57.440 And oddly enough, he looked exactly like Andrew.

01:09:00.700 Everyone's trying to rag on me for various things that I'll eat anything, and I don't do all their health woo-woo, and I just feel like I'm really healthy, and I don't have all these weird other problems that people complain about.

01:09:14.120 My main problem is I somehow got tennis elbow while I was in South Korea, and I don't know how that one happened.

01:09:20.600 Body inflammation.

01:09:21.140 Such is life.

01:09:21.760 Because you're not eating enough.

01:09:22.940 Yeah.

01:09:23.720 Yeah.

01:09:24.600 Okay.

01:09:25.360 Good things.

01:09:26.120 Someone in the chat is saying, I wonder what Charlie is thinking of your topic.

01:09:29.580 I'm not even sure where our topic is right now.

01:09:32.060 No women in the military. 1.00

01:09:33.200 Yeah, we were supposed to talk about women in the military, which they shouldn't be. 1.00

01:09:37.460 Just kick them out of the military.

01:09:42.280 Have them clip that up on Patriot takes or whatever.

01:09:45.240 I feel like Libertarian Cliff is going to – are you – wait, can I ask you a question on that?

01:09:51.920 Are you – do you still consider yourself Libertarian?

01:09:53.300 No, Libertarians don't want us to have a military at all.

01:09:54.740 Well, so it's funny.

01:09:57.960 Charlie – I always used to tell people that Charlie would actually be one of the – I think I said this on ThoughtCrime a couple weeks ago.

01:10:04.560 But Charlie, when you would go on, he actually would be tough at interviews, especially when I'd do his show when it was one-on-one, you know, where he'd just be like, what's going on in PA?

01:10:11.820 Like digging in on the numbers.

01:10:13.640 I don't know when it was.

01:10:14.740 It might have been election night.

01:10:15.800 I mean, we were on for, what, eight hours.

01:10:18.380 But he asked me at one point, he said, you know, how does a Ron Paul Libertarian go from that to running a ballot chase effort for Donald Trump?

01:10:28.920 And he got mad at my answer, so maybe I shouldn't say it in terms of he thought maybe we'd get demonetized or delisted, whatever it is.

01:10:35.060 But I said, yeah, I'm still a hardcore libertarian.

01:10:39.760 I have my own definition of what that is, small l.

01:10:42.780 But things change when they start to chop the private parts off of our 12-year-old boys and girls and consider it normal.

01:10:53.060 There became a breaking point where, like, the things that – do I believe in free markets?

01:10:57.460 Do I believe in free trade?

01:10:58.480 Yes.

01:10:58.720 But, like, you have to look at things in reality, not theory.

01:11:02.020 This is where Jack will be proud of me for being okay with certain protections that Ayn Rand would not be.

01:11:10.580 But I think a lot of the culture stuff just made it where it was like, we got to be in this fight.

01:11:15.080 Like, there's so many libertarians I know out there that want to sit on the sidelines.

01:11:17.820 They want to complain.

01:11:18.560 They want to say, hey, you know, that doesn't pass our purity test.

01:11:23.660 Do you want to save the country or not?

01:11:25.060 And so, yeah, I have a lot of beliefs that, you know, a lot of Republicans in Congress, you know, a lot of this spending stuff, I got a lot of problems with it.

01:11:35.400 But I think 2024 was like the country was on the brink.

01:11:39.520 And I still feel that way.

01:11:40.780 That's why I'm still doing a lot of America first candidates.

01:11:43.100 And, you know, I would define myself as America first.

01:11:46.300 That's probably the best label I would use.

01:11:48.800 But I just think the people that sat out in 2024, it's like you got to open your eyes.

01:11:52.420 Like, that was the battle.

01:11:53.980 And we have the battle now, I feel like, every single year moving forward.

01:11:58.660 Did that suffice?

01:11:59.680 Yeah, that well said.

01:12:00.420 No, that's helpful.

01:12:01.840 Although it doesn't answer the question about women in the military. 0.99

01:12:04.620 Well, let's play clip 282 and it'll kick us off.

01:12:07.160 282. 0.95

01:12:07.560 No more social justice, no more political correctness, no more toxic ideological garbage that infected the department.

01:12:16.480 No more identity months, no more DEI offices, no more dudes in dresses. 0.76

01:12:21.940 No more climate change worship, no more division, no more delusions, gender delusions or quotas, no more distraction.

01:12:28.440 As the chairman of the Joint Chiefs puts it, Pete, you're clearing out the debris.

01:12:32.160 And then CNN reacting, 283.

01:12:38.200 What Pete Hegseth has done, he has pushed women almost completely out of the top ranks of the military. 0.99

01:12:45.560 He has.

01:12:45.960 Point blank.

01:12:46.660 Women are 18% of the U.S. military right now. 1.00

01:12:49.320 There are now no members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who are women.

01:12:52.160 Despite the fact that women are the majority of the population and 18% of the U.S. military,

01:12:56.260 there are zero women on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:12:58.580 In fact, every member of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff right now is a white male.

01:13:02.460 White men are 29% of the population.

01:13:04.800 Is it possible that white men are the only people in the world, in this country, 0.56

01:13:09.220 who are qualified to be on the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

01:13:12.320 That's the assumption, I guess, that Pete Hegseth wants us to believe.

01:13:18.820 Hmm.

01:13:20.020 Mm-hmm.

01:13:20.660 Man, I make him sound awesome.

01:13:22.680 So, okay.

01:13:23.560 Jack, you first.

01:13:24.260 For the record, that's not what Pete said at all.

01:13:27.800 It's just not what he said.

01:13:29.760 That's a really good point.

01:13:30.560 He's talking, when he says gender delusions, he's talking about transgenderism.

01:13:35.300 He's not talking about getting rid of women.

01:13:37.720 Just, and that's just, that's just accurate, right?

01:13:40.400 That's just accurate to what he's saying.

01:13:42.000 That, so, you know, you have to, you have to set the frame here.

01:13:45.160 And the frame is that they're just lying about what Secretary Hegseth said.

01:13:49.340 He's talking about getting rid of the political nonsense in the military, pitting genders against each other, gender quotas, just, just all of this nonsense. 0.52

01:14:01.640 And so, it's the idea here, right?

01:14:04.520 The idea here is, you know, make it so.

01:14:07.900 Now, that being said, that being said, I would say it's simple as this.

01:14:14.060 Why do we have male-female standards for combat, for combat MOSs, for combat jobs, for combat duties? 1.00

01:14:23.580 Why do we have male-female standards for different, you know, in those critical capacities? 0.93

01:14:29.360 Why do we have those?

01:14:30.320 If you are going to be in a, you know, in the infantry, if you're going to be in special forces, if you're going to be in EOD, any of these capacities, right, any of these serious combat capacities, combat units, you've got to have the same standards.

01:14:45.480 It's as simple as that.

01:14:46.400 Because guess what, right?

01:14:48.200 If you've got to pull your buddy out from under fire and you can't lift a 200-pound male with, you know, who's loaded with another 100 pounds of gear, then guess what?

01:15:02.720 You're a liability.

01:15:03.780 You're a liability to your unit. 0.92

01:15:05.600 You're a liability to the fight.

01:15:07.580 You're a liability to the mission.

01:15:09.000 You're a liability to the country.

01:15:10.760 And that's something that, by the way, doesn't just cover gender.

01:15:14.420 That's something that would cover people with various health conditions, people – but all sorts of – there's all sorts of reasons that people are denied for certain jobs and certain positions or even entry into the United States military.

01:15:29.920 You know, a lot of people know, I think, if you had, like, childhood asthma and you tell the recruiters that, you pretty much can't get into the military.

01:15:36.000 So, I mean, there's lots of reasons that we preclude people from the military or certain positions within the military.

01:15:42.040 And I think, at the end of the day, what it comes down to is we need to make this – we just need to go back to what is the most important point of the military?

01:15:50.480 Is it getting the mission done or is it social engineering?

01:15:54.000 Simple as that.

01:15:55.100 Well, hold on.

01:15:56.080 We have a donation from BigManS17.

01:16:00.020 I want to read it.

01:16:00.560 He gave us $5.

01:16:01.820 It says, hot take.

01:16:02.720 We protect women.

01:16:04.920 Women don't protect us. 1.00

01:16:07.000 And I'm going to use that to go from there.

01:16:08.560 I like – in general, Jack, I would agree it would be an improvement to just say you need to hit a certain minimum standard, whether you are male or female, even if that means it's going to be 95% men, 99% men, 100% men.

01:16:23.340 But I might go further and I might say I do think there's actually probably something wrong with having women in the military generally outside of, like, truly auxiliary roles, kind of like how we did it in World War II. 0.89

01:16:37.700 Like, you had WACs.

01:16:39.400 You had certain sort of supplementary roles that you just had lots of women work in. 1.00

01:16:43.840 But I do think there's actually something – I think you do lose something once you have women in the infantry, women in the armor, women in, like, direct, immediate combat situations, even if they can pass a certain physical qualification. 0.96

01:17:00.760 I just think there's actually a historical reason these roles in every, you know, advanced society, every advanced civilization were basically, for all intents and purposes, 100% male.

01:17:12.880 And I think 100% male institutions and, like, groups have – like, they have certain – they have a certain dynamic to them that you lose once you're introducing women to them.

01:17:25.360 And I think we've seen the side effects of that in our own military.

01:17:28.860 Once you add women into a group, like, you're introducing a certain competitiveness element for the men that's not there otherwise, you're just changing what kind of –

01:17:40.880 you're changing what the team is doing, what – the way the team works.

01:17:44.200 And I kind of think it's impossible for us to divorce the way the U.S. military has clearly become less effective as a war-winning organization from the fact that we treat it as, like, a egalitarian gender organization, even if we set the same standards for the sexes.

01:18:02.780 But I also have never been in the military, so I'm probably over my skis a bit.

01:18:07.500 But I know – who is that Virginia senator, the Democrat – is it Jim Webb?

01:18:12.960 I think Jim Webb has actually commented on that.

01:18:15.160 He also said he supported hazing in the military for that reason.

01:18:18.000 He said once he got rid of hazing, it actually made the military worse.

01:18:19.780 Yeah, Jim Webb has said a lot of big stuff about the military.

01:18:21.500 He's a Marine.

01:18:22.920 Yeah.

01:18:23.180 I'm going to try to find it.

01:18:25.380 I'm going to try to find it while one of you weighs in.

01:18:27.660 Let me comment.

01:18:28.560 I think Jack thinks I'm going to be anti-military.

01:18:30.780 I believe in a strong –

01:18:31.880 Here it comes.

01:18:32.500 – military power.

01:18:34.020 I agree with Jack.

01:18:35.080 Merit-based 100%.

01:18:36.160 Why do we have different standards? 1.00

01:18:37.380 It's stupid. 1.00

01:18:38.140 This isn't about Title IX in sports. 1.00

01:18:39.760 This isn't something we're trying to carve out, something to make it fair for women. 0.99

01:18:43.980 We're trying to protect the republic.

01:18:48.260 We're trying to save America.

01:18:49.540 If you think the biggest fear is China, which I would say if we look at other superpowers,

01:18:55.420 who has the potential to really take out America?

01:18:58.760 It's China. 0.90

01:18:59.660 Guess what percentage of Chinese military are women? 1.00

01:19:03.540 Four and a half percent.

01:19:05.460 What did we say?

01:19:06.040 What is the clip?

01:19:06.560 18% here in the U.S.?

01:19:07.980 Four and a half in China.

01:19:10.860 Think about that.

01:19:11.980 Merit-based is 100% the right answer.

01:19:14.920 And I agree.

01:19:15.400 Pete didn't say that. 0.98

01:19:16.240 He's talking about the transgenders and these people that have mental delusions. 1.00

01:19:19.540 about what sex or gender they are. 0.99

01:19:21.540 They should not be in the military.

01:19:22.820 100% full stop.

01:19:24.540 But this is about winning the war.

01:19:26.360 And if it's merit-based and if it's about skill sets, you don't break that down by gender.

01:19:30.680 You break that down by skills.

01:19:32.580 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:33.120 And look, Pete Hegseth, he's amazing.

01:19:36.960 But also, I had an opportunity to talk with him at the White House a couple weeks ago.

01:19:40.220 And I just told him, I was like, it's a top-down thing.

01:19:43.700 When there's a man in a position like that, that's talking like that, it inspires all of the under, you know, like my brothers in the military.

01:19:53.400 He had to see under the Biden administration, there was a gay pride flag on the ship that he was on. 0.92

01:19:59.420 And then on top of that, there was a transvestite that was on his ship with him. 0.77

01:20:05.560 And so I told these stories to Pete.

01:20:07.620 And he was like, look, when I came in, I saw that they were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on recruiting for the military.

01:20:14.600 And when I saw where they were spending this money, they were spending it on The View and these crazy, crazy leftist television shows and programs.

01:20:25.900 It's like, what do you think that produces?

01:20:28.060 What do you think that produces?

01:20:29.100 And he's like, I shut that down immediately. 0.96

01:20:31.460 It produces transvestites that are on ships. 1.00

01:20:35.180 This is not, if China's not doing it, why are we doing it?

01:20:38.680 But it's bigger than just women in the military. 1.00

01:20:40.920 Like, there are legit gender deluded, yeah, deluded transvestites. 1.00

01:20:46.860 Delulu. 0.80

01:20:47.360 Delulu's.

01:20:49.080 Yeah, and then on top of that, too, I mean, back to the H-1B thing, and we talked about this on the show.

01:20:54.780 Americans are resilient.

01:20:55.920 Like, we figure it out.

01:20:57.500 And to women in the military, during World War II, women were making tanks and bullets. 1.00

01:21:02.760 And maybe that's a role for women in the military. 1.00

01:21:05.760 I just see.

01:21:06.580 I'm with, I agree with everything you just said.

01:21:09.180 I'm glad.

01:21:09.780 I support Pete Hegseth.

01:21:12.160 Jack, you're totally right.

01:21:13.300 What's getting lost in this argument is that's not at all what Pete Hegseth said.

01:21:17.380 So, first of all, it's much ado about nothing.

01:21:19.300 It's a fake conspiracy, fake hoax.

01:21:21.440 Secondly, Blake is right.

01:21:23.540 Male-only, like, fraternities are really powerful.

01:21:27.200 There's something culturally that happens.

01:21:28.720 This is what they did to the Boy Scouts.

01:21:29.940 They ruined that.

01:21:31.340 If you're around all boys and you're trying to learn how to climb the rope, guess what?

01:21:36.420 You're going to fail, fail, fail, fail, fail until you get that right.

01:21:39.360 Women come in. 0.99

01:21:40.340 The Boy Scouts, you don't want to fail because you don't want to embarrass yourself in front

01:21:44.140 of the girls.

01:21:44.660 There's just things, like, a lot of things like that happen.

01:21:47.200 Now, are there roles for women in the military that make a lot of sense? 1.00

01:21:50.280 Yeah.

01:21:50.480 I think you could look at the military, the different jobs, the different functions and

01:21:54.300 roles, and find a bunch of good jobs for them, okay?

01:21:56.860 When it comes to combat troops, when it comes to special ops, special forces, I mean, these

01:22:02.100 are going to be predominantly male anyways, even if you had just a merit-based system.

01:22:05.620 But I think there's something about the male fraternity order that just, from a cultural

01:22:10.600 standpoint, just is absolutely, without a doubt, a thousand percent better if it's all

01:22:15.460 men.

01:22:15.640 And I think it's such a lazy argument they made on CNN that was like, all of Trump's

01:22:21.480 cabinet, or, you know, he was saying the top military leaders are all white men.

01:22:25.500 Who cares what race they are? 1.00

01:22:27.780 Who cares what gender they are? 1.00

01:22:29.820 Like, I just love that they imagine these quotas, and then they compare it to the rest of the

01:22:33.960 United States.

01:22:35.080 We are trying to win wars.

01:22:36.960 We're trying to promote peace.

01:22:38.700 We're trying to have a strong military.

01:22:40.720 But it's just, it's almost sad to me that in 2025, they can still go back to those random

01:22:44.740 talking points of, you see, you know, these blocking people, or he's trying to get every

01:22:49.260 woman out. 1.00

01:22:50.740 How about we just hire the best people?

01:22:53.360 Well, I mean, the quota system, you know, good for you. 0.90

01:22:57.080 So, okay, but then we might have to, we have to throw it up, Angelo, throw up what we're

01:23:03.100 going to have to do if we've sent our best people.

01:23:05.760 Are we going to send Emma and Daisy back to war?

01:23:09.300 We discussed this almost two years ago, I think, the draft, the draft our daughters episode

01:23:16.940 where we were like, well, you know, if we're going to add women to the, to the selective 0.99

01:23:21.640 service, we may just have to send our women out. 1.00

01:23:24.680 And Daisy would fit in even more now because she's pregnant. 1.00

01:23:26.980 She could wear that pregnant flight suit that they made for the Air Force. 0.99

01:23:30.660 But I did find it.

01:23:32.020 I found the Jim Webb article, which is from 1979, and it's awesome.

01:23:36.620 It's titled, Women Can't Fight. 1.00

01:23:39.200 That's the name of it.

01:23:40.180 And I just want to read a little bit of it because it's really evocative.

01:23:42.860 He just opens this way.

01:23:43.860 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:23:44.300 Jim Webb fought.

01:23:44.840 Women definitely argue, though. 1.00

01:23:47.280 They can fight.

01:23:48.360 They can argue.

01:23:49.720 They can definitely argue.

01:23:50.480 But can they fight?

01:23:51.340 And so this is Jim Webb.

01:23:52.400 Jim Webb fought in Vietnam, for those who don't know him.

01:23:54.420 Uh, he goes, we would go months without bathing, except when we could stand naked among each

01:24:01.200 other next to a village well, or in a stream, or in the muddy water of a bomb crater.

01:24:05.920 It was nothing to begin walking at midnight, laden with packs and weapons and ammunition

01:24:11.060 and supplies, 70 pounds or more of gear, and still be walking when the sun broke over mud

01:24:16.540 slick paddies that had sucked our boots out all night.

01:24:19.480 We carried our own gear, and when we took casualties, we carried the weapons of the ones who had

01:24:24.640 been fit.

01:24:25.700 Hit.

01:24:26.340 When we stopped moving, we started digging, furiously throwing out the heavy soil until

01:24:30.860 we made chest-deep fighting holes.

01:24:32.720 When we needed to make a call of nature, we squatted off a trail, or we straddled a slit

01:24:37.340 trench that had been dug between fighting holes, always by necessity, always in public view.

01:24:42.240 We swept in makeshift hooches made out of ponchos, or simply wrapped up in a poncho, sometimes

01:24:48.040 so exhausted that we did not feel the rain fall on our own faces.

01:24:52.220 We caught hookworm, dysentery, malaria, or yaws, and some of us had all of them.

01:24:57.720 And it actually gets more visceral from here.

01:25:00.400 I don't want to read it forever.

01:25:01.380 It's a quite long piece.

01:25:02.940 But he's just saying this is a purely, it is a very, very male environment.

01:25:08.740 And I'm going to skip ahead here, and then I'll let you guys react.

01:25:11.180 And what he says is, he says, let me get it here, men fight better without women around. 1.00

01:25:19.680 Men treat women differently than they do men, and vice versa. 0.97

01:25:23.200 Some of this is induced by society.

01:25:25.340 Some of this is innate because of the desire to pair off and have sexual relations.

01:25:30.780 These tendencies can be controlled in an eight-hour workday.

01:25:33.540 They cannot be suppressed in a 24-hour, seven-days-a-week combat situation.

01:25:40.120 Introducing women into combat units would confuse an already confusing environment, 1.00

01:25:44.680 and it would lessen the aggressive tendencies of the units.

01:25:48.660 As many aggressions would be directed inward, towards sex, rather than outward, toward violence.

01:25:55.960 A close look at what has already happened at the Naval Academy

01:25:58.960 during the three years women have attended that institution are testimony to this.

01:26:04.340 It's an amazing piece.

01:26:05.500 It goes on quite long.

01:26:07.500 It looks like it's almost like 10,000 words long.

01:26:10.340 But it's interesting.

01:26:12.020 I just think we've gotten so used to it.

01:26:14.100 We've gotten so used to the rhetoric of, yeah, we should just have an equal standard,

01:26:18.740 but men and women are different, that we're almost unable to conceptualize what used to be obvious,

01:26:23.280 which is just men and women are so different, and men are so much more suited for military stuff,

01:26:29.520 and men are so different from women that they operate differently with no women around, 0.96

01:26:34.140 that we sort of removed our ability to conceptualize what used to be obvious,

01:26:38.080 which is just the military should be an all-male institution for the most part.

01:26:45.940 Based.

01:26:46.460 So, Blake, let's get to the real thought crime now, because I think we've hit this one out.

01:26:56.880 We've talked about women in the military, but what about female police officers? 1.00

01:27:04.060 Ooh.

01:27:05.800 You know, like, kind of the same thing, I think.

01:27:08.860 Like, there's a lot of jobs in the police force that are effectively paperwork-based,

01:27:15.100 but yeah, similar thing.

01:27:16.460 I think it's probably a problem.

01:27:17.500 It's a problem when you have cops who can't, yeah, dispatches, all that.

01:27:22.600 But the average beat cop, a beat cop should basically be able to beat up

01:27:28.680 maybe, like, at least at the 85th percentile of the people they're going to encounter,

01:27:36.700 and you get real problems when you have officers out there who are encountering violent,

01:27:43.080 psychotic, dangerous people, and they basically have no way, you know, if they're at the 10th percentile

01:27:49.780 of physical ability or the 5th percentile or less compared to men, and let's be real,

01:27:54.960 the vast majority of people that they're dealing with are men, and they have nothing to deal with them 0.96

01:27:59.860 except tasers or their gun.

01:28:01.880 And I don't have the data in front of me, but I believe female officers are more likely 1.00

01:28:06.380 to end up shooting the people they're trying to corral because they have to.

01:28:11.440 And if you have an 80-foot, a normal tall cop who's strong, you know, they can just tackle them.

01:28:17.280 They can just use the baton.

01:28:18.740 They can beat them down in other ways. 0.69

01:28:20.640 They don't need to shoot them.

01:28:21.960 But we have this fantasy, probably encouraged by television, where, you know, you have kung fu 1.00

01:28:27.980 women cops who can weigh 115 pounds and take down anyone. 1.00

01:28:33.040 That is a fantasy.

01:28:33.820 That is not reality.

01:28:35.060 That is a fake world.

01:28:37.000 And it's the same thing that makes people, when they have juries, where someone does a shooting

01:28:41.520 that's fatal, and, you know, the jury's like, why didn't they shoot them in the leg?

01:28:44.980 Because that's not real life.

01:28:47.500 In real life, you can't just micro-aim at specific body parts to disable someone.

01:28:52.940 And in real life, a 115-pound woman cop is not taking down a, you know, 6'2 crazy guy 1.00

01:29:01.740 on PCP.

01:29:03.220 Ever.

01:29:04.740 I have a very simple answer.

01:29:07.200 A woman that is not able to physically, you know, arrest somebody or pass the standard, 1.00

01:29:12.020 like Blake said, should not be a cop.

01:29:14.000 But just like a fat guy, a man who's overweight and is not able to patrol or to catch somebody 0.98

01:29:20.600 should also not be a cop.

01:29:22.120 It's just having a standard.

01:29:24.220 They love the donuts.

01:29:25.580 They love them.

01:29:26.640 Like Blake.

01:29:29.180 Well. 0.91

01:29:29.840 Blake is a fat cop or Blake loves donuts? 0.96

01:29:31.840 He loves the donuts, but he's not a man. 1.00

01:29:33.080 I can eat as many donuts as I want if I'm not a tubster.

01:29:37.260 We actually may have some breaking news.

01:29:42.180 I want to see if they can pull this tweet up.

01:29:43.840 I just, uh, I just threw it in there because it involves us.

01:29:48.680 But.

01:29:50.440 So the, just as we were going live, the, or during the show, FBI San Francisco just posted

01:29:56.200 a tweet saying, the FBI is seeking the public's help in obtaining any video or images of acts

01:30:03.960 of violence that have may have occurred during the November 10th, 2025 turning point USA event

01:30:10.000 in Berkeley, California video or images can be submitted online FBI.gov slash Berkeley TP USA.

01:30:18.560 And if you click it, um, they've created a tip website specifically for this event.

01:30:24.180 So this is incredible.

01:30:26.120 The FBI, I mean, I just want to step back here for a second.

01:30:29.660 And as horrific, as horrific and insane as the violence was, the FBI has gone from investigating

01:30:35.260 conservatives like a year ago today with Arctic frost and turning point and Charlie were definitely

01:30:43.540 targets of that to now actually investigating people who are attacking turning point members

01:30:50.860 on camera.

01:30:53.100 Just what, what does he change?

01:30:54.500 And by the way, please, if anyone, um, you know, if anyone can identify, there's the website

01:30:58.920 FBI.gov slash Berkeley TP USA.

01:31:01.340 This is huge.

01:31:02.320 Andrew, this is huge.

01:31:03.300 Yeah, no.

01:31:03.580 And, and, and I already retweeted the FBI one and, uh, Harmeet Dillon, assistant attorney general

01:31:08.700 said, were you at or around the TP USA Berkeley event Monday, November 10th?

01:31:12.960 And she says the FBI, San Francisco is seeking digital evidence to support the federal investigation.

01:31:18.080 FBI seeking information on acts of violence at the turning point USA event.

01:31:21.900 And she linked to that same thing.

01:31:24.100 So I actually, during our show, I'd gotten that sent to us.

01:31:27.640 I was going to bring it up, but yeah, it's, this is a, this is a sea change because I think,

01:31:31.700 you know, kind of on a, on a, on a little bit of a different wave length, Jack, and I think

01:31:37.740 you'd appreciate this.

01:31:38.620 There's been a lot of consternation.

01:31:40.120 We talked about the H1B, the 600,000, you know, uh, Chinese visa holders, student visa

01:31:46.340 holders.

01:31:47.340 And it kind of, there's been this disconnect it feels with the administration.

01:31:51.820 And what you're seeing is you saw, you saw a clip today from JD Vance saying that we're

01:31:57.000 going to be surging housing supply, uh, and we're going to be deport, mass deportations

01:32:02.300 are going to reduce the overall, uh, demand side on, on housing in the United States.

01:32:07.880 So you've got them messaging now on housing and doing this Gen Z economic revival plan

01:32:12.680 to get people to buy into the, to the economy.

01:32:14.940 And then simultaneously, there was a lot of pushback after the UC Berkeley event.

01:32:19.840 You saw some of our friends like, uh, Cernovich basically poking, poking the admin right in

01:32:25.740 the eye saying like, Hey, are you guys going to step up?

01:32:27.860 Are you, are you, is this all talk?

01:32:29.600 And, you know, I think the base was saying like, we want action.

01:32:32.720 And here you got, you got the, the administration coming through and, and doing active, uh, taking

01:32:39.080 action to defend our students and to stand up against Antifa.

01:32:43.000 So I, and then Marco Rubio has been messaging on it.

01:32:45.680 So there's, there's, there's good things happening.

01:32:48.080 That's all I'm saying.

01:32:48.920 The administration is, is, is showing the, the ability and the flexibility to, to listen

01:32:53.740 to the base.

01:32:54.260 Very good.

01:33:02.060 So what do you guys think about Christmas lights?

01:33:04.280 Yeah.

01:33:05.600 Jack Christmas lights, Christmas lights before December are unacceptable.

01:33:12.620 Uh, what Christmas lights before Advent, Advent can sometimes start.

01:33:19.020 Yes.

01:33:19.440 It can.

01:33:20.100 Okay.

01:33:20.500 So I will say that this year, Advent is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

01:33:24.260 is, uh, I think November 27th.

01:33:26.460 So Fahs and I were talking about how there's just way more people.

01:33:31.340 There's way more people this year putting up Christmas lights on.

01:33:34.520 Oh gosh.

01:33:34.660 That's what I'm talking about.

01:33:35.500 That's what I'm talking about.

01:33:37.040 Here we go.

01:33:37.660 That's what I'm talking about.

01:33:38.940 November 30th.

01:33:39.380 Get some spirit in here.

01:33:40.740 Oh my gosh.

01:33:41.800 Yeah.

01:33:42.940 Here comes pregnant Daisy. 1.00

01:33:45.320 Well done.

01:33:46.180 No, no.

01:33:46.700 This is going to be wrong.

01:33:47.060 Yes.

01:33:47.740 Terrible.

01:33:48.020 No, this is good.

01:33:49.140 No.

01:33:49.940 This is good.

01:33:51.000 No, this is completely and utterly wrong.

01:33:53.060 No, this is great.

01:33:54.060 Plug it in.

01:33:55.880 Reject.

01:33:57.440 Reject.

01:33:57.960 No, completely reject.

01:33:58.720 You guys, you are erasing, you are erasing Thanksgiving.

01:34:01.980 I'm upset about this.

01:34:03.100 No, this is great.

01:34:04.660 Thanksgiving will not stand.

01:34:06.900 Oh, the lights too.

01:34:07.360 We need Thanksgiving.

01:34:08.280 This is great.

01:34:09.160 I have a confession though.

01:34:11.400 Um, I set up for Christmas November 1st.

01:34:16.060 Oh wow.

01:34:17.540 No, this is, what?

01:34:18.960 That's disease.

01:34:20.200 That's depraved. 0.82

01:34:21.860 Well, that's what I'm talking about.

01:34:24.660 That is great.

01:34:25.100 Everybody needs a little joy in their life.

01:34:28.040 There you go. 0.91

01:34:28.360 This is disgusting.

01:34:29.320 Thank you, dude.

01:34:29.920 No, it's great.

01:34:30.980 99.99 in Phoenix, Arizona is already playing Christmas music.

01:34:36.100 Look, everybody needs a little joy in their life, especially at times like this.

01:34:39.980 There's been a lot of chaos for us.

01:34:41.640 And look.

01:34:42.000 You mean like a Thanksgiving?

01:34:42.960 I will not apologize.

01:34:44.280 If everyone needs joy in your life, why are you taking the joy out of my life with this

01:34:48.880 crime against Christmas?

01:34:50.860 I will not apologize.

01:34:52.020 This year we've seen a lot more people set up in October.

01:34:55.540 Or after Halloween.

01:34:57.420 It's literally a marketing strategy.

01:34:59.660 It's just marketing for people to buy more stuff earlier, to buy presents earlier, which

01:35:05.340 of course the libertarian probably loves.

01:35:06.920 I wonder if this is as hot of a topic as Halloween.

01:35:13.460 We should ask people to email freedom at Charlie Kirk.

01:35:15.400 When do you set up for Christmas?

01:35:16.760 I mean, to me, the standard is after Thanksgiving.

01:35:20.600 I mean, is that not?

01:35:21.100 Christmas was never a pagan holiday.

01:35:22.660 It was always after Thanksgiving.

01:35:24.240 It is not based on Saturnalia.

01:35:25.760 Thanksgiving's over, and then you start setting up for Christmas.

01:35:28.820 I think that is the normal.

01:35:29.860 We have an American culture, and the American culture said after Thanksgiving, you set up

01:35:33.320 your Christmas lights, and you can do all that stuff.

01:35:34.940 I'm with Andrew.

01:35:36.320 Christmas is after Thanksgiving.

01:35:39.000 Also, Advent is the start of the Christmas season.

01:35:42.240 In our house, we keep the tree up from the first Sunday of Advent through Epiphany, basically.

01:35:50.480 Which is usually early January, correct?

01:35:53.200 January 6th.

01:35:55.140 J6.

01:35:55.800 The big J6. 1.00

01:35:56.360 Is Epiphany fixed, or is it shift year by year?

01:36:02.160 It's neutered. 0.91

01:36:02.920 Pretty sure it's always Gen 6.

01:36:05.120 Okay.

01:36:05.700 Point is, we now have this abomination in our studio.

01:36:09.540 Because it's 12 days after Christmas, so it's always January 6th.

01:36:13.660 This comment said, Christmas is up November 1st.

01:36:17.460 I'm with Mikey.

01:36:20.020 Yes, you just hate America.

01:36:22.180 I mean, if you just hate America.

01:36:24.320 I actually think Mikey's on to something.

01:36:26.580 I think a lot of people have been just really rocked by this year with what happened to Charlie.

01:36:30.460 People just want something that they like, and so they're throwing up the Christmas lights early.

01:36:35.800 Let's get some joy.

01:36:36.820 No, no.

01:36:37.220 I'm not saying that Christmas is bad.

01:36:39.580 Don't get me wrong.

01:36:40.500 But I am saying that we shouldn't just give away Thanksgiving.

01:36:45.220 I know.

01:36:45.820 Why are we doing that?

01:36:47.320 Why would you just throw away one of America's greatest holidays?

01:36:49.920 People like Christmas.

01:36:51.200 I love Thanksgiving.

01:36:52.300 Yeah.

01:36:52.480 I love Thanksgiving, and I will listen to Christmas jazz in the background as I celebrate Thanksgiving.

01:37:00.100 Actually, I think I know what the problem is here.

01:37:01.780 I think I know what the problem is here, is that you guys live in a desert where people are not supposed to live.

01:37:06.760 And so you don't have seasons, which is what normal people have.

01:37:10.680 So if you live in a place where there's seasons, it doesn't make sense to have Christmas stuff up when the leaves are changing colors.

01:37:18.960 I agree with this 100%.

01:37:20.400 There's a bunch of woo-woo, as Blake says. 1.00

01:37:25.200 Thanksgiving is associated with the fall because it's the harvest.

01:37:28.800 And then Christmas is associated with winter, which is another thing that we have in normal parts of the world.

01:37:34.940 And that's when it's cold and there are no leaves on the tree.

01:37:37.960 So it wouldn't make any sense for Christmas to be up at that time.

01:37:41.220 But since you guys live in an artificially created space like the Sun Valley, where humanity was never supposed to live,

01:37:48.620 God did not intend people to live there.

01:37:50.640 He first flooded it with an ocean.

01:37:53.060 He then put dinosaurs there.

01:37:55.040 He then turned it into a desert.

01:37:56.420 Like, he's begging you, do not live in this place.

01:37:59.720 And you guys just don't want to listen.

01:38:01.900 Well, let me now look.

01:38:03.800 Which are based around God's nature don't make any sense when you apply them to a place like that.

01:38:09.100 This person said, Thanksgiving is okay, but Christmas is king.

01:38:13.600 Team Mikey.

01:38:15.100 Way to hate America.

01:38:16.700 Way to just hate America.

01:38:18.280 Now, let me actually back jack up on this.

01:38:20.800 I think there's some nostalgia, especially growing up in Pennsylvania.

01:38:23.680 Like, it's cold for Christmas, right?

01:38:25.600 There is the winter.

01:38:26.740 Exactly.

01:38:27.700 There is that nostalgia of like, and I hadn't thought about that since I landed here and it's so hot here.

01:38:34.100 No, I got off the plane.

01:38:35.380 No, I mean, it's turning, but it's not like.

01:38:37.860 If the definition for Christmas is cold, there's a lot of places that have Christmas in the U.S. right now.

01:38:42.800 Yeah, but I think that's what Jack's saying I agree with, is that it kind of connects in a weird way that's like,

01:38:48.320 I don't know, like when I get off the plane here, how hot is it here right now?

01:38:51.860 He's on fire!

01:38:53.180 Yeah, exactly.

01:38:55.500 I just think there's something about that.

01:38:57.560 We're agreeing, though, that the normal timeline across the country is after Thanksgiving.

01:39:02.580 It gets very cold here.

01:39:04.200 At nighttime, it reaches like.

01:39:06.540 That is the traditional timeline.

01:39:08.800 After Thanksgiving, you set up for Christmas.

01:39:11.180 You're just admitting that you're not agreeing.

01:39:13.460 No, actually, I disagree.

01:39:14.920 In fact, since I was like 17, my tradition in life has always been.

01:39:21.320 How old are you now?

01:39:22.320 October 31st at midnight, I play all I want for Christmas.

01:39:29.060 And I continue the tradition to this day.

01:39:31.640 Please stop playing that song.

01:39:33.120 This is also un-American just from a secular perspective because of Black Friday.

01:39:39.620 So Black Friday is Black Friday because it is traditionally seen as the first day of the Christmas shopping season.

01:39:46.020 That's why Black Friday exists.

01:39:48.120 You guys have a lot of talk.

01:39:49.520 That might be a Black Friday.

01:39:50.160 But so like, like Mikey-nomics are an affront to reality and Mikey-nomics are something that we should completely oppose. 0.98

01:39:59.320 Can I be the great peacemaker here?

01:40:01.080 Our heart, body and soul because pretty much everything from Mikey we should oppose.

01:40:06.320 And it's Black Friday exists, again, because it's the first day of the Christmas shopping season.

01:40:11.680 Yeah, but here's the difference.

01:40:13.480 Mikey, I think what Mikey is saying is that you can still celebrate Thanksgiving while you're setting up, while you're celebrating Christmas.

01:40:20.180 And Jack, you're saying that no, if you start setting up for Christmas, you're pretty much blunting out Thanksgiving and not giving it its full value.

01:40:26.880 It's Thanksgiving eraser.

01:40:27.860 It's totally Thanksgiving eraser.

01:40:29.560 The great pacification.

01:40:30.660 I will go to Starbucks tomorrow and enjoy a peppermint mocha.

01:40:34.160 Yeah, and red food died.

01:40:36.320 No, see, it's still pumpkin spice season.

01:40:37.960 Okay, I'm just going to argue with this back to the other way.

01:40:41.120 This is an example.

01:40:41.640 I'm taking this back to the other way.

01:40:43.600 If Christmas is so great, it is pumpkin spice season.

01:40:46.740 If Christmas is so great, why don't you just have the Christmas decorations up all year?

01:40:52.700 Yeah.

01:40:53.240 Okay, fun story though.

01:40:55.240 So, on New Year's Eve last year, Charlie and I flew straight to Florida for the transition team stuff and then straight to D.C.

01:41:05.820 So, I wasn't able to take down my Christmas decorations outside.

01:41:10.340 And I didn't come back from the East Coast.

01:41:12.520 So, I basically was on the East Coast with Charlie for a month and a half, almost two months.

01:41:17.040 So, I didn't take down my Christmas lights until late February this year.

01:41:24.160 Hold on.

01:41:25.720 Yeah, it is shameful.

01:41:27.380 This is, so you set up.

01:41:29.140 No, that's not shameful.

01:41:30.120 That's not shameful because Candlemas is February 2nd.

01:41:33.360 No, give me the full timeline of you having your Christmas decorations up last year.

01:41:38.660 So, some people keep it up until about February 2nd, the Feast of the Presentation of Jesus in the Temple.

01:41:43.900 See, Jack's got my back.

01:41:45.880 Thank you, Jack.

01:41:47.200 Hey, but I'm okay with you having it up for a longer time.

01:41:50.420 No, Jack, you got to hear it.

01:41:51.260 He's got to answer this, Jack.

01:41:52.540 He's got to answer this.

01:41:53.280 He had my back.

01:41:54.220 What was your full timeline, Mikey, of Christmas decorations?

01:41:56.440 About November 10th through February.

01:42:00.940 Got him.

01:42:01.640 Wait, so this is basically...

01:42:02.980 Wait, hold on.

01:42:03.600 Mikey, I just realized something.

01:42:06.040 Wait, wait, guys.

01:42:07.640 Mikey's been cuffing.

01:42:08.840 That's what he's doing.

01:42:09.920 This is cuffing season that he's talking about.

01:42:13.140 I'm married.

01:42:13.840 Do you guys not know about cuffing season?

01:42:15.600 Are you serious?

01:42:16.420 Oh, gosh.

01:42:17.360 October through March?

01:42:19.820 No.

01:42:20.560 Yes, I do know cuffing season.

01:42:22.300 6-7.

01:42:23.940 No, cuffing season 6-7.

01:42:25.680 Wait, Mikey, you know cuffing season, right?

01:42:27.100 Yes, of course.

01:42:28.740 Yeah, these guys, the boomers don't know it again. 0.95

01:42:30.820 Cuffing season is because during the winter, like during the winter holidays...

01:42:35.660 Mistletoe, baby.

01:42:37.400 ...people hook up and start like a relationship just so that they can have a date for all these various holidays,

01:42:43.880 so they can sit together in the cold and stream stuff together, stream movies or whatever TV series is.

01:42:50.520 And it's basically like, yeah, it's like October through Valentine's Day, give or take.

01:42:56.260 And then, so it means you're handcuffed together.

01:42:59.640 That's the whole point.

01:43:00.220 You're handcuffed together through all the holidays during this time.

01:43:04.800 And then, the guys who don't know that they were just being cuffed, they realize that after Valentine's Day, they get cut loose and they have no idea.

01:43:14.360 This reminds me of Baby, It's Cold Outside, the Christmas song.

01:43:18.420 So watch out, boys and girls.

01:43:19.580 Watch out, young kids. 0.96

01:43:21.260 I really can't stay.

01:43:22.520 Baby, it's cold outside.

01:43:24.140 Here's a question.

01:43:24.900 My mother will worry.

01:43:26.360 Thanksgiving.

01:43:27.260 Do you guys have Thanksgiving parades where you're from?

01:43:29.400 Yeah.

01:43:29.840 Was Santa in the Thanksgiving parade?

01:43:33.140 That was a start.

01:43:33.580 No, that's Thanksgiving.

01:43:34.800 The day of Thanksgiving.

01:43:35.620 So you can play Christmas music on Thanksgiving.

01:43:39.460 You can watch Christmas movies on Thanksgiving because it's like you're ushering in the season.

01:43:44.860 No, you should watch Thanksgiving movies on Thanksgiving.

01:43:47.000 It's a quarter of the year.

01:43:49.580 I mean, listen, the reason you don't do enough.

01:43:51.960 Guys, before we wrap.

01:43:53.700 Hold on, Blake.

01:43:54.460 I got to answer your question.

01:43:54.940 I want to flag this.

01:43:56.760 Man.

01:43:57.240 Go ahead.

01:43:57.800 Go ahead.

01:43:58.400 Go ahead.

01:43:59.620 Well, I was just going to say, we got another donation from BigManS17.

01:44:03.460 He says, guys, y'all don't even know how much joy this show brings to my night.

01:44:08.340 I am working almost every day until 1 a.m.

01:44:12.540 It makes my week.

01:44:13.740 All I can say is thank you.

01:44:15.600 My name is Cade, but I can't change my name, he says.

01:44:20.040 Thank you, Cade.

01:44:21.440 Cade, you're a patriot.

01:44:22.480 We appreciate you.

01:44:23.080 So here's why you don't keep Christmas decorations up all year, even if you're going to be a weirdo

01:44:28.860 like Mikey and do it after Halloween.

01:44:32.100 Here's why.

01:44:32.780 Because variety is the spice of life.

01:44:35.820 It's special because it's a limited time offering only.

01:44:39.940 So to Jack's point, I like to limit that.

01:44:45.100 If you make yourself wait even longer, it gets even more special, I think.

01:44:49.820 You condense the specialness into a more higher octane of Christmas specialness.

01:44:55.960 That's fine.

01:44:56.720 That's fine, Mikey, if you disagree.

01:44:58.400 I disagree.

01:44:59.280 Do you have Christmas decorations up right now in your house?

01:45:01.860 Yes.

01:45:02.720 Yeah, but that's from last year.

01:45:03.960 We're still up.

01:45:05.680 That's great.

01:45:08.900 It's great.

01:45:09.560 And lights are outside, too.

01:45:12.260 Oh, I forgot about the Baby It's Cold Outside went through all that criticism.

01:45:15.580 The rape undertones.

01:45:16.520 The rape undertones.

01:45:18.000 There's a stand-up comedian that does this bit where he talks about how that song got

01:45:23.500 all this fire for the undertones, and then it was, I can't say this on air, W-A-P, WAP, 0.99

01:45:31.940 that song, and he read the lyrics to WAP and then read the lyrics to that and saying it's

01:45:38.300 hilarious that we allow wet to whatever.

01:45:40.920 Should we do that right now?

01:45:42.260 I don't think so.

01:45:43.160 We should rap before Mikey pulls up the lyrics.

01:45:47.680 Jack, you want to take us home?

01:45:51.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're dealing with something wet and wet.

01:45:55.640 Bring a bucket and a mop.

01:45:58.820 Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet and... 0.93

01:46:01.180 Disgusting. 0.73

01:46:01.660 No, no, no. 1.00

01:46:03.520 Give me everything you got.

01:46:04.840 I really can't.

01:46:05.380 It's dead.

01:46:06.540 Baby, it's cold outside.

01:46:08.100 No, baby, it's wet on the floor.

01:46:10.280 Okay.

01:46:10.660 It's disgusting.

01:46:11.440 Oh, gosh.

01:46:12.260 See, Mack Truck.

01:46:14.240 Yeah, you did.

01:46:14.980 Mack Truck reference.

01:46:16.840 It actually, maybe WAP is a Thanksgiving song because it does have the word gobbled in

01:46:23.540 it.

01:46:23.900 All right.

01:46:24.480 Well, that's good.

01:46:27.540 This would be right around the time where Charlie would be like...

01:46:29.960 Would you tweet that?

01:46:30.700 If I were to see a Christmas movie, WAP could be a Thanksgiving movie.

01:46:34.080 You should tweet that, Jack.

01:46:36.540 Why not?

01:46:36.940 That's a good take.

01:46:37.780 I'll tweet it right now.

01:46:39.160 You think I'm scared?

01:46:40.180 I'll tweet it right now.

01:46:43.900 I mean...

01:46:45.180 WAP should be a Thanksgiving song since...

01:46:52.200 Gobble, gobble.

01:46:53.060 Hashtag it.

01:46:53.920 Word.

01:46:54.760 No, just one gobble.

01:46:55.740 There's only one gobble.

01:46:57.220 Oh, this is...

01:46:58.200 Oh! 0.60

01:46:59.140 This is why lyrics imply coercion or pressure to stay, especially the line, say, what's

01:47:05.940 in this drink?

01:47:07.180 I forgot that line in it.

01:47:08.820 I mean...

01:47:09.700 Bring a bucket and a mop.

01:47:10.700 It was the 1940s.

01:47:11.980 There wasn't roofies in the 1940s, was there?

01:47:15.000 Anyways.

01:47:15.720 All right.

01:47:16.440 Jack?

01:47:16.800 No, it's just a guy.

01:47:18.120 He's wooing her.

01:47:19.240 He's wooing her.

01:47:20.980 Yes.

01:47:21.420 He's wooing her WAP. 0.99

01:47:23.160 He's just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:47:24.200 Oh, gosh.

01:47:25.620 He's just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:47:26.700 Just cut the feed, please.

01:47:30.300 All right.

01:47:31.600 Just wooing her WAP. 1.00

01:47:32.640 That's all it is.

01:47:33.380 All right.

01:47:33.860 We're going to go.

01:47:34.460 It is Thursday in our new time.

01:47:38.900 I'm going to take us home because somebody has to.

01:47:40.940 Please.

01:47:41.200 We're counting on you.

01:47:41.660 Remember, keep committing thought crimes.

01:47:44.960 Thought crime is death.

01:47:48.800 I don't want a lot for Christmas.

01:47:57.020 There is just one thing I need.

01:48:00.320 And I don't care about the present.

01:48:03.780 Underneath the Christmas tree.

01:48:06.900 I don't need to end my stockings.

01:48:10.240 We're upon the fireplace.

01:48:12.560 All right.

01:48:12.860 Okay?

01:48:13.000 Bye.

01:48:13.580 Bye.

01:48:14.060 Bye.

01:48:15.180 Bye.

01:48:15.460 Bye.

01:48:15.740 Bye.

01:48:16.420 Bye.

01:48:24.880 Bye.

01:48:30.060 Bye.

01:48:31.240 Bye.

01:48:34.020 Bye.

01:48:36.300 Bye.

01:48:36.660 Bye.

01:48:38.440 Bye.

01:48:38.840 Bye.

01:48:39.740 Bye.

01:48:40.360 Bye.

01:48:40.420 Bye.

01:48:40.800 Bye.

01:48:41.540 Bye.

01:48:42.480 Bye.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 15, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 105 — Woman-Free Miitary？ End All H-1Bs？ Christmas Decorations？

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