Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 106 — Democrat Sedition？ Mankeeping？ Epstein Files At Last？

00:00:00.680 From the age of big brother.

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00:00:15.240 All right, welcome back to Thought Crime Thursdays.

00:00:23.420 Got the whole crew here.

00:00:25.020 We're actually at five deep today.

00:00:26.680 This is great.

00:00:27.600 Jack is on assignment.

00:00:29.940 He is in an undisclosed bunker in the state of California,

00:00:34.540 the People's Republic of Communist California.

00:00:37.200 Me being in California is itself a thought crime.

00:00:41.660 Gavin Newsom, I told you I was coming, buddy.

00:00:44.320 He looks like he's been like, when we had extraordinary rendition,

00:00:47.380 it looks like he's been rendered to like a CIA black site in Yugoslavia or something.

00:00:51.960 It's definitely Eastern European.

00:00:53.040 It should be brighter.

00:00:54.160 It should be brighter.

00:00:55.200 What can I say?

00:00:55.700 I am reverting to my proper form as Posobiec's family.

00:01:00.660 We are good.

00:01:01.340 Well, you guys saw there was that doppelganger of me that got, I guess, like kicked out of the FBI for being gay.

00:01:06.920 And he's like suing about over this.

00:01:09.220 Yeah.

00:01:09.560 And we have that.

00:01:11.600 Oh, of course you do.

00:01:13.400 So everybody was sending this and it was like they were like, Posobiec, how come I've never seen the two of you in the same room?

00:01:18.960 And I'm like, why are you doing me like that?

00:01:20.540 So basically, I just have to go and ask my dad a whole bunch of questions because I have no idea what's going on there.

00:01:28.900 Here it is.

00:01:29.880 Throw it up.

00:01:30.520 Throw that up, gang, when you get it, because it's that this is this is Jack. 0.99

00:01:34.800 This is either gay Jack or Jack's gay, intelligent brother. 0.97

00:01:38.980 Yeah. 0.97

00:01:39.540 Timu Jack.

00:01:40.060 When you order Jack on Grindr.

00:01:41.840 Oh, gosh.

00:01:42.780 When you order Posobiec on Grindr.

00:01:44.420 All right.

00:01:44.920 This is we have 11 year olds watching.

00:01:47.440 So so here we're going to get to a bunch of stuff here.

00:01:51.140 So this is why we're going to do this because I'm driving because I'm in studio.

00:01:55.120 So I'm going to do a little different.

00:01:56.600 Wait, I haven't seen Tyler.

00:01:58.060 Is that is is that a haircut?

00:02:00.480 What is that?

00:02:01.040 I did get a haircut a while back.

00:02:03.020 A while back.

00:02:03.500 Did you pay for that?

00:02:04.260 A few weeks ago.

00:02:05.500 Tyler hasn't been on Thoughtcrime for like a month.

00:02:07.780 I haven't been on Thoughtcrime.

00:02:08.600 Every time I've walked in, it's like too many people.

00:02:10.580 Would you want to do a hat on?

00:02:12.000 What?

00:02:13.180 It's because there's no hat.

00:02:15.320 Yeah, that's what it is.

00:02:16.900 That's what it is.

00:02:17.860 All right.

00:02:18.540 Here's here's what we're going to cover today.

00:02:20.240 Epstein files release.

00:02:22.400 Is it too late?

00:02:24.640 Seditious conspiracy.

00:02:26.620 2025 edition.

00:02:27.700 That'll be topic two.

00:02:28.660 Topic three.

00:02:29.640 Professor only fans at the University of Washington.

00:02:33.540 Topic four here.

00:02:34.840 This is where we don't know if we're going to get here or not.

00:02:37.160 Mankeeping epidemic.

00:02:38.060 Women ditching dudes for AI. 0.60

00:02:39.700 I hope we get to that one.

00:02:40.980 And then number five.

00:02:42.200 Sidney Sweeney.

00:02:43.420 Is it a setup?

00:02:45.040 Dun, dun, dun.

00:02:46.500 All right.

00:02:47.280 Jack.

00:02:47.760 Epstein files release.

00:02:48.960 Is it too late?

00:02:50.600 Trump is now behind it.

00:02:51.880 Has the damage already been done?

00:02:53.020 Is this too late?

00:02:53.740 Is the political fallout already too great?

00:02:56.720 Man, I actually really want to get to that Sidney Sweeney thing.

00:02:58.920 Because I have a hot take.

00:03:00.000 I think we're all being set up.

00:03:02.300 Well, I know.

00:03:03.080 But we got it.

00:03:04.300 Let's go in order.

00:03:04.820 I know, I know, I know.

00:03:06.380 Just saying, just saying.

00:03:07.460 I had to get it out there.

00:03:08.240 Well, if we move quick.

00:03:10.140 Wait, did you bring the binder with you to California?

00:03:12.720 Oh, gosh.

00:03:13.640 No, the binder I actually used.

00:03:16.620 People get a little confused because now other people had like fake Epstein files in their binder.

00:03:22.600 My binder was given me directly by J.D. Vance himself.

00:03:26.280 And he said, Jack, you can't talk about this to anyone.

00:03:28.980 And I said, okay, but what is it?

00:03:31.320 And then he's like, don't open it.

00:03:32.760 So I opened it when I got home.

00:03:34.020 And inside was filled with nothing but rare Magic the Gathering cards.

00:03:39.160 And it was actually J.D. Vance's personal stash.

00:03:41.940 Wow.

00:03:42.300 I can see J.D. playing Magic.

00:03:44.400 Yeah.

00:03:45.240 He almost certainly played Magic.

00:03:46.900 That's like definitely a J.D. Vance thing.

00:03:48.500 Let me just say, because it is a serious thing, right, like joking aside or whatever, like binder jokes aside, like which I've had to, you know, go through and talk about for months now.

00:03:58.700 You know, this is something that was avoidable in terms of the political fallout.

00:04:02.460 I don't think it ever needed to be like this.

00:04:05.100 This was something that Trump had campaigned on.

00:04:08.000 This is something that MAGA has always stood for going back to like 2016 was, you know, justice for Jeffrey Epstein, was exposing Jeffrey Epstein.

00:04:17.000 By the way, it was Trump's DOJ that actually arrested Epstein in the first place, which is something I don't think he gets a lot of credit for in his first term.

00:04:26.340 He literally, literally arrested Jeffrey Epstein.

00:04:29.120 But, you know, no one gives him any credit for it.

00:04:30.680 But this whole thing with the files and the release and then there's not going to be a release and then there was nothing and now there's something.

00:04:36.480 It just feels like, you know, it just didn't need to get to this point, right?

00:04:40.860 It just didn't need to get to this point.

00:04:42.200 And I think there was a misunderstanding of how big of a deal of it was for the people.

00:04:49.180 It was a big how big of a deal it was for the country.

00:04:52.320 And it's kind of a stand in, right?

00:04:54.340 I think it's kind of a stand in for establishment versus like anti-establishment.

00:05:00.980 So if you're pro-establishment, you must not want the Epstein files released.

00:05:04.840 If you're anti-establishment, you want the Epstein files released.

00:05:07.440 So it's something that for a lot of no prop voters and low prop voters and independents,

00:05:11.840 it just became this huge proxy fight over whether or not you are part of, quote, unquote, the club or not.

00:05:20.680 And so, look, obviously, I've always stood for full disclosure.

00:05:23.860 And I'm like, look, people want to come at me.

00:05:26.220 And I'm like, I went to the White House.

00:05:28.520 I went to the attorney general.

00:05:29.820 I went to the director of the FBI.

00:05:31.180 I went to the president of the United States.

00:05:32.380 And I said, release the Epstein files.

00:05:34.140 Like, what else would you have me do?

00:05:35.920 Right.

00:05:36.180 And then we've been pushing for it ever since.

00:05:38.180 Now we got this bill.

00:05:39.260 I hope they're released.

00:05:39.940 I hope every single piece of it comes out.

00:05:42.840 So I just want to make one correction, Jack.

00:05:46.240 You said that Trump campaigned on it.

00:05:48.340 MAGA has always stood for it.

00:05:49.920 I agree with you that MAGA has always stood for it.

00:05:52.060 MAGA has always wanted it.

00:05:53.260 But Trump didn't really campaign on it.

00:05:55.520 He got asked about it in one interview.

00:05:57.300 He mentioned it during the campaign.

00:05:58.400 What's that?

00:05:59.620 He definitely mentioned it during the campaign.

00:06:01.400 Yeah.

00:06:01.580 So he got asked about it in an interview.

00:06:03.540 And he said, I would lean towards full release.

00:06:06.140 Yeah.

00:06:06.940 Which was the right answer.

00:06:08.120 And but it wasn't, you know, some of these other pieces about transparency, whether JFK

00:06:14.500 files, MLK files, things like that.

00:06:16.520 He would get up on the stage and talk about a lot.

00:06:20.660 And he would do it at stop after stop.

00:06:22.020 When it came to the Epstein files, he did say when asked, but it wasn't something that

00:06:26.560 he beat the drum on.

00:06:27.880 And so it's almost like a form of miscommunication and a disconnect between the admin and the

00:06:35.240 base in the sense that I don't think Trump was as gung ho as his base was.

00:06:38.500 The base thought that was like a package deal.

00:06:40.700 The base thought we get Epstein, we get JFK, we get all the stuff.

00:06:43.740 That Trump, I don't think ever in his mind included it in the same cohort, if you will.

00:06:50.600 But but his his voters did.

00:06:52.640 So you're right.

00:06:53.160 It became like a proxy war out of like, is the establishment in control?

00:06:57.340 Is the deep state in control or the people in control?

00:07:00.220 And so it was a total, I think, unforced error.

00:07:02.940 I mean, I'll never forget AmFest.

00:07:05.280 Everybody was talking about it at AmFest.

00:07:07.600 And, you know, that was the that was the tone and tenor of the base.

00:07:10.820 But there was a lot of people that didn't didn't understand that yet.

00:07:16.320 Well, the SAS, because we haven't had AmFest.

00:07:19.100 Oh, yes.

00:07:19.520 Student actions.

00:07:20.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:21.120 It was it really was people.

00:07:23.420 I don't know how much we could say about it, but it really was.

00:07:25.780 It was such a frustrating period because we had episodes where people were really angry

00:07:30.740 at Charlie, as was far too often the case where Charlie was trying to be a helpful messenger.

00:07:35.360 He's trying to tell the White House, trying to tell us, guys, people are serious about this.

00:07:40.340 They're angry.

00:07:41.440 This is a mess.

00:07:42.080 You have a messaging problem here.

00:07:43.780 And people would act like Charlie had decided to go and declare war on the White House.

00:07:49.160 No, the exact opposite.

00:07:51.300 Charlie was always trying to be the helpful messenger.

00:07:54.380 He was always in touch with the base.

00:07:56.260 And we saw it over and over again that people were walking up to us at Student Action Summit.

00:08:01.340 We're saying, oh, wow, we're really upset about this.

00:08:03.840 And we were trying to convey that to people.

00:08:06.460 Yeah, no.

00:08:07.220 And I'll never forget some of the conversations that Charlie and I had.

00:08:11.640 We'd look at each other going like, this is bad.

00:08:14.900 You know, like people are really fired up about this.

00:08:18.760 And if we're going to tell the world how fired up they are about it, then we're going to run

00:08:25.740 into people who don't understand where we're coming from.

00:08:27.800 And it's going to cause some consternation.

00:08:30.760 And it certainly did.

00:08:31.740 But I knew that between that and really what happened with the Iran strikes, I just knew

00:08:40.240 that there was this fissure that was happening, emerging, especially with Gen Z voters, which

00:08:44.540 we had spent so much time courting in 2024.

00:08:48.200 And I think Charlie was, you know, pretty legitimately worried about it.

00:08:53.160 I think he was justified in some of his worries.

00:08:55.080 So now the question is to the team, I guess I'll ask.

00:08:58.160 Maybe, Mikey, this is a good time to bring you in.

00:09:00.120 Is it too late to restore the trust that's maybe been damaged in this Epstein debacle?

00:09:07.940 No, it's I don't think it's too late.

00:09:10.040 But here's you think back to the Russian hoax where a lot of people thought it was true

00:09:14.540 and Trump was saying it's not true.

00:09:16.120 And the American people are getting a little bit frustrated, thinking maybe there's more

00:09:19.440 that was swept under the rug here. 0.92

00:09:21.440 But time and again, Epstein is this pathological liar, so much to the point where like you even 0.73

00:09:27.840 saw the Dems pushing this narrative that he spent Thanksgiving with him. 0.86

00:09:31.240 And then you find on Melania's ex account that they had Thanksgiving with some troops

00:09:36.460 in some random area that Epstein wasn't even nearby.

00:09:39.540 And but I don't think it's too far gone.

00:09:43.440 And there is a reality here where Trump has just called this thing a hoax because it truly

00:09:49.480 is a hoax.

00:09:51.280 And once it is inevitably released, which my question, actually, I do want to ask Blake

00:09:57.320 how long it will actually take to get these things released realistically.

00:10:01.420 But once these things are released, I want to see how many of these people take accountability.

00:10:06.320 If Trump is totally innocent, if all these people are totally innocent, how many people

00:10:11.120 will take responsibility for their words, their actions, having gotten so upset at Charlie,

00:10:16.320 at different people saying that there's they're lying about the Epstein files, that Trump's

00:10:20.460 actually in there.

00:10:21.900 But something else that I found out last night, too, that I just think is a funny little tidbit.

00:10:26.540 And I'd love for maybe Blake to answer the question on how long it will actually take

00:10:30.780 for these things to get released is Epstein's youngest victim was, in fact, five years older

00:10:37.580 than the prophet Muhammad. 0.58

00:10:39.680 And so this is I just I don't know how to bring this thing back to Islam. 0.71

00:10:43.560 That's an important thing to be talking about here.

00:10:46.060 Blake's love language.

00:10:46.720 Ayesha was eight.

00:10:48.260 Ayesha was eight.

00:10:49.860 Yes.

00:10:50.680 That was not six.

00:10:51.620 I think she was younger.

00:10:52.880 Six and then nine.

00:10:54.320 She was six.

00:10:55.280 Six, six, when married, nine, when taken into his house.

00:10:58.720 If you catch the the Hadiths wording, the drift thereof, taking into the house.

00:11:05.320 Yes.

00:11:05.840 Yes, indeed.

00:11:06.400 Look, it's always important to emphasize these things because it's very funny because

00:11:10.120 you'll say it and people will like flinch like you're just you're not supposed to say

00:11:13.540 that.

00:11:13.840 You're really not.

00:11:14.440 But we used to have a much more polite society, which made us susceptible to being

00:11:19.080 hoodwinked and taken advantage of by domineering, conquering cultures like Islam. 1.00

00:11:25.500 And now we've had to wake up and now we can't flinch.

00:11:29.220 We can't flinch at the truth anymore.

00:11:30.920 That's the that's the truth.

00:11:32.160 We were we were a very polite, well-mannered society.

00:11:36.220 And we get let people do their thing.

00:11:38.020 And we didn't get into, you know, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.

00:11:42.440 I don't I think it started.

00:11:43.660 I think the breakdown started in the 60s.

00:11:45.260 But yeah, well, a lot of 60s, a lot of bad stuff happened in the 60s.

00:11:47.940 It's like that website.

00:11:48.600 What happened in 1971 or so where everything sort of starts to break.

00:11:52.480 That's right.

00:11:52.800 Uh, wages, industry, crime.

00:11:55.380 Yeah.

00:11:55.660 A lot of bad ideas took root.

00:11:57.340 And, uh, we're still reaping the consequences of it.

00:12:00.240 So, Blake, is it too late when we release the Epstein files?

00:12:03.480 The problem with the Epstein files, in my opinion, is it's sort of it's the sort of thing

00:12:08.260 where people have read so much they believe so much about it that is truthfully not proven

00:12:12.800 that I think in a sense nothing can satisfy the most hardcore Epstein people other than

00:12:20.160 I guess you could imagine, oh, found the secret trove.

00:12:23.320 Here's all of the here's here's 850 different global elites and they were all pedophiles. 0.89

00:12:29.400 And here's like their kids.

00:12:30.940 And here's where the bodies are buried. 0.99

00:12:32.320 And they all have to be dragged off to prison or execution now.

00:12:35.440 And if you don't have that on that question.

00:12:38.600 Do you think if they threw one person in prison?

00:12:41.380 Oh, no, that would just that would just make the wolves more ravenous. 0.89

00:12:44.360 You think so?

00:12:45.220 But like it really is.

00:12:46.600 I always encourage some degree of skepticism on this and caution because you really want

00:12:52.740 to think what do we truly, truly know?

00:12:56.360 We're having these press conferences the last few days of first of all, they call them Epstein

00:13:00.700 survivors.

00:13:01.660 I always find that wording sort of annoying.

00:13:04.540 Be careful.

00:13:04.800 I don't care.

00:13:05.300 I don't care.

00:13:05.740 I'm forging ahead.

00:13:06.300 I've just been making one enemy after another this past week.

00:13:10.040 And so survivors, the implication of calling someone a survivor is that presumptively, if

00:13:16.500 you said victim, it would mean they died.

00:13:18.340 So, for example, a 9-11 victim is someone who died in 9-11.

00:13:22.100 A 9-11 survivor was in the Pentagon or in the World Trade Center and did not die.

00:13:26.240 Hence why they're a survivor.

00:13:27.920 But the Epstein survivors, there are some where do we have any confirmed deaths?

00:13:33.180 No, people make wild speculation, but I know of no missing.

00:13:36.920 Excuse me.

00:13:37.440 We have one confirmed death, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:13:39.780 True.

00:13:40.220 Okay.

00:13:40.760 Okay.

00:13:41.220 One confirmed death.

00:13:42.460 But besides that, we have no, we have no, no one went, as far as I know, no one went

00:13:47.900 missing related to this case.

00:13:50.180 Most of the alleged victims were not even underage.

00:13:53.220 Virginia Guffrey, there is allegations of.

00:13:54.980 And Virginia Guffrey did die under mysterious circumstances.

00:13:58.160 They say suicide is the presumed death.

00:14:02.380 But yeah, there's a lot of people that don't believe that.

00:14:04.160 When it's gone to court, it's like Virginia Guffrey accused, basically, she accused Alan

00:14:09.160 Dershowitz by name.

00:14:10.240 And what it ended up going is going to court where, like, ruled against her and had to 0.91

00:14:14.700 apologize and say that her allegations were false.

00:14:18.980 And, you know, I guess you could say the entire court system was rigged against her. 0.98

00:14:22.700 But another possibility is just she oversold it.

00:14:25.680 We have other victims who, you know, were, like, delusional and were point, like, they

00:14:29.320 say UFOs abducted them.

00:14:30.900 And again, I don't.

00:14:32.180 So having been now subjected to, and I think everybody could appreciate this on this show,

00:14:40.780 being in the middle of conspiracy theories where you're like, that's false.

00:14:46.180 Being the subject matter.

00:14:47.280 That's false.

00:14:48.120 That's not true. 1.00

00:14:49.240 That's full of crap. 1.00

00:14:50.440 That's definitely fake. 1.00

00:14:51.780 Like, it's just, like, one after the other after the other where you're like, okay, you

00:14:55.460 see it.

00:14:55.840 Mikey, weren't you the one that was like, I will never look at a conspiracy theory the

00:14:59.200 same way?

00:15:01.040 I think you said that.

00:15:02.140 Well, yeah, I was.

00:15:03.600 Yeah, right.

00:15:05.140 Well, because I'm, like, conspiracy theorist on a lot of things.

00:15:10.460 But I was actually having that conversation with you, too, Andrew, where I was like, I

00:15:14.800 always just kind of take everything with a grain of salt.

00:15:17.260 But now I'm taking every conspiracy with a grain of salt.

00:15:20.720 Like, I'm questioning it.

00:15:22.320 You know, is this really legit?

00:15:24.060 I'm more taking a Blake Blackpill stance on everything now.

00:15:28.200 I warned you guys.

00:15:29.320 Blake is, like.

00:15:30.140 I warned you guys.

00:15:31.460 But, okay.

00:15:32.060 But here's my point. 0.98

00:15:32.780 So, what if with Epstein, so, okay, I know that Dan and Cash took a bunch of crap when 0.86

00:15:39.140 they came out and they were like, there's, you know, no list and he didn't kill himself 0.94

00:15:45.360 or he did kill himself and that's the truth.

00:15:48.380 And if it wasn't the truth, we would tell you.

00:15:49.940 And they took a bunch of gruff for that.

00:15:52.040 I know that they're on the hot seat on, like, a bunch of different things.

00:15:54.700 I get it.

00:15:55.760 But what if it was just, like, this whole thing has been, like, overblown? 1.00

00:16:00.480 Yeah, he was a scumbag. 1.00

00:16:01.360 Yeah, he was a criminal. 1.00

00:16:01.920 Yeah, he apparently liked underage women. 0.75

00:16:05.380 But they weren't, like, apparently they weren't as young.

00:16:07.740 I don't know what the youngest age.

00:16:09.120 But the point is, like, what if it was just a little less impressive and crazy than we've

00:16:16.800 all sort of been led to believe it was?

00:16:18.840 Like I said, it's worth remembering.

00:16:19.920 The claim that we've run into that you'll hear is that, you know, it was a massive pedophile

00:16:24.820 ring or that it was a pedophile espionage ring.

00:16:29.300 You'll see that wording.

00:16:30.580 But what we have actual concrete evidence for is, for example.

00:16:34.400 It was a pedophile ring.

00:16:35.500 But what do you mean wording?

00:16:36.920 It was, we know it was a pedophile ring.

00:16:39.420 Do we?

00:16:40.460 Yes.

00:16:41.220 Who abused anyone other than Epstein?

00:16:45.460 Prince Andrew, right?

00:16:46.760 No, we don't have hard proof of that.

00:16:49.300 And I think with Prince Andrew, it's like she's 18 by the time anything happens, allegedly.

00:16:54.360 Okay.

00:16:54.840 Is anything even proven there?

00:16:55.840 I don't, actually, that's a great point.

00:16:57.700 I don't have the details on it.

00:16:58.820 Definitely.

00:16:59.360 Well, okay.

00:17:00.120 Well, here's the other thing too, actually, because I do want to just talk about conspiracies

00:17:04.540 in general.

00:17:06.420 Because one of, someone gave me really good advice on this, and I think it is very good.

00:17:11.920 But the skeptics, people that have skepticism and they're questioning of you or things you're

00:17:18.320 involved in, oftentimes are the ones you want to win over, because behind their skepticism

00:17:23.580 is deep loyalty.

00:17:25.460 And once you win them over, they trust you.

00:17:28.180 And there's a deep-rooted trust and loyalty behind it.

00:17:31.820 So, I mean, I'm not coming after conspiracy theorists.

00:17:34.360 In fact, I am one on a lot of things, but Blake and I actually go back and forth on

00:17:38.920 these.

00:17:39.580 But I just want to clarify that as, you know, Andrew, we are having this conversation on,

00:17:45.080 you know, I take everything with a grain of salt now.

00:17:47.720 Yeah.

00:17:48.080 Well, so at the time of the alleged incidents.

00:17:50.860 You can't live in a country where we've been lied to about so many things and then not

00:17:54.300 ask questions.

00:17:55.100 Yeah.

00:17:55.380 All right.

00:17:55.740 We just, we can't.

00:17:57.000 Yeah.

00:17:57.540 At the time of the alleged incidents, Guffrey was 17 years old.

00:18:00.780 Okay.

00:18:01.160 Okay.

00:18:01.400 So she's at least alleged it.

00:18:03.340 Well, I, she did allege it.

00:18:05.280 Unfortunately, she's now dead, but well, okay, man, that sounded really okay.

00:18:09.240 Now it does sound like a conspiracy.

00:18:11.280 But, uh, no, but she alleged it until she turns out dead, but you know, now I guess

00:18:17.140 it seems like the evidence is like, I'd have to actually, I'll let me look up more of the

00:18:22.420 stuff that I remember reading about it before I like just go off.

00:18:25.520 But like Virginia Guffrey, she made, we know she made wild allegations against people 1.00

00:18:30.040 because she ended up getting wrecked in court on the basis of it. 1.00

00:18:33.720 Yeah.

00:18:34.300 And well, here's, here, can I, I'll just add a grain of salt to that.

00:18:38.000 Right.

00:18:38.760 And, and I, and I'm not disagreeing with you.

00:18:41.680 I'm just saying that when you deal with people who have gone through, um, sexual assault,

00:18:46.980 sexual trauma, especially when it was done at a young age, at a vulnerable age, uh, it,

00:18:54.880 it typically does not leave them in a place where they are your like model witness, right?

00:19:00.360 It leaves them unstable.

00:19:01.480 It scars them for life.

00:19:02.880 It certainly does mess with your memories.

00:19:04.700 Now add to the fact that there are drugs and, uh, alcohol and all sorts of other things

00:19:10.220 involved in this.

00:19:11.100 So this is why these cases in general are so very hard to, to bring in the first place

00:19:16.360 in court, no offense, Jack, but I heard that sort of, I heard that exact explanation of

00:19:24.360 things when we were going through, frankly, a pretty big episode of American hysteria, which

00:19:29.200 was the, the campus sexual assault hysteria, where you had case after case after case, dozens

00:19:35.100 of them where people brought allegations against fellow classmates, against professors, mostly

00:19:41.540 fellow classmates, though, where they would say where like there would be stories that

00:19:46.000 didn't add up.

00:19:47.000 And that's what they would say.

00:19:47.740 They would say, well, actually, you know, if their story is in con is actually not consistent

00:19:52.180 that it's true.

00:19:55.200 Yeah.

00:19:55.380 So here the, the official numbers.

00:19:57.700 So there's a July, 2025 memo from the U S department of justice and FBI following a comprehensive

00:20:04.520 review of Epstein's files concluded that he victimized over a thousand women and children

00:20:10.620 over two decades, there have been 36 identified victims in the 2005, 2008, Florida investigation

00:20:17.400 and more than 200 represented in lawsuits.

00:20:21.680 So, and then I guess, uh, Epstein's estate compensation fund has 225 claims against it.

00:20:28.860 So that's a ring.

00:20:30.760 That's like, that's a pretty, they say thousands of people, you can get money.

00:20:35.260 You can, so they made up a thing where you can get money.

00:20:38.220 If you say that you were abused by Jeffrey Epstein and we know people have gotten payouts

00:20:42.320 from that who are not very reliable.

00:20:44.920 So again, a person who claims that she was abducted by UFOs, uh, as part of the Epstein

00:20:49.840 thing, got money through that compensation fund Epstein victims compensation program established

00:20:55.160 by his estate is valued at over $600 million at his, at the time of his death received 225

00:21:00.320 applications from alleged victims.

00:21:01.840 Of these 150 were deemed eligible and the fund paid out over $121 million, uh, with 92% of

00:21:09.460 eligible claimants accepting.

00:21:11.940 So, so it's, I mean, I, I think it's say what pedophile ring.

00:21:20.540 I mean, it would have to be a ring to pay out 150 people, right?

00:21:24.340 Yeah.

00:21:24.680 And that's so, well, so the, it would, it would have to be a much bigger pool of people.

00:21:30.440 Cause think about all the people that didn't apply.

00:21:32.400 But to Blake's point, like, you know, so there was some footage of this going around this

00:21:35.980 week where some of these women were like, why don't you name the victims? 1.00

00:21:39.080 And they're like, we shouldn't have to like the FBI.

00:21:42.100 Yeah.

00:21:42.420 So again, I'm, I'm sorry, but like you won't name, you say you were sexually assaulted, name

00:21:47.280 them, make an accusation.

00:21:49.880 They're demanding that people do it for them because my guess is they don't actually have

00:21:55.300 good evidence for it.

00:21:56.240 So they want, they want to just do guilt by insinuation, which is, yeah. 0.98

00:22:00.900 Are some people dumb and they sent emails to Epstein? 0.98

00:22:03.240 Yeah, that's bad. 0.99

00:22:03.960 That's probably an error of judgment, but that doesn't prove that they were taking part in

00:22:07.820 sexual abuse, period.

00:22:09.160 Well, let's, let me, let me commit this to another area because you just mentioned the

00:22:12.620 emails, right?

00:22:13.240 And we have seen some emails released and like Jon Stewart was, was losing his

00:22:17.220 mind on me last night.

00:22:18.360 So he brought, he brought up me and his monologue and was like, he was like, I can't believe

00:22:22.400 Pesovic isn't talking about these emails, which clearly referenced Trump.

00:22:26.700 And I was like, I did talk about the emails.

00:22:29.100 He was talking about how he was trying to blackmail Trump or sneer Trump, smear Trump, or like

00:22:35.000 ensnare him in his legal problems.

00:22:37.940 But there were no emails where he was like, oh, hey, me and Donald Trump need to cover up

00:22:43.480 that thing we did on the island.

00:22:45.280 Like, there's nothing like that in the emails.

00:22:46.880 I was just reading, I read the emails out publicly, but is here's, what's really weird

00:22:51.960 though, is have you guys seen these emails about Jeffrey Epstein where he's like, oh,

00:22:56.880 let me set up a back channel with Lavrov in Syria.

00:23:00.400 Let me, let me just connect you with like these middle East partners.

00:23:04.500 Like, I do think there should be some scrutiny and, you know, beyond the, what we're just

00:23:11.300 talking about beyond the, the sex stuff, because like this guy seems to be conducting a very

00:23:15.980 odd level of shadow diplomacy between himself, world leaders, power brokers all over.

00:23:24.980 And it, it, I don't know that we've ever actually gotten a seriously, you know, robust explanation

00:23:31.120 for how he was able to do all this and how he's able to conduct this shadow diplomacy.

00:23:34.980 And so I can certainly see why people would think that when you add to that, this sort

00:23:40.940 of club of people that's around him, this coterie going down to his island and doing these things

00:23:46.560 and being involved with underage girls, that it, it seems to all be connected.

00:23:51.020 I like, I still kind of like my, this is much more of a crank theory, but I've kind of been

00:23:57.360 amused by the idea.

00:23:58.160 So Epstein did have, he had involvement with a former Israeli prime minister.

00:24:01.320 He clearly was in contact with Israeli intelligence stuff.

00:24:06.020 Definitely is the best point in favor of some sort of conspiracy going on, but I've also

00:24:10.120 entertained the idea.

00:24:11.700 What if Epstein himself basically believed in Israel conspiracy theories?

00:24:14.760 So he thought if I'm buds with a former Israeli prime minister and other people in our

00:24:18.600 government, they'll protect me from getting arrested.

00:24:22.500 Well, you know, they're okay.

00:24:24.480 I, that's fun.

00:24:26.360 Uh, but Barack was the head of the Mossad.

00:24:29.500 Yeah.

00:24:29.980 He was literally the head of the Mossad prior to becoming prime minister.

00:24:32.960 Like that's not a conspiracy theory.

00:24:34.460 You could just, you can look that up on Wikipedia.

00:24:36.660 I mean, the, the, the, the most obvious explanation here is that he was probably loosely connected

00:24:42.280 with a lot of these governments had these loose affiliations, friendships, you know,

00:24:46.880 he was a network, he was known as an international financier, which, and he was buds with all

00:24:51.060 these powerful people.

00:24:51.740 So once you become a known commodity, you get, you start getting like welcomed into more

00:24:56.800 and more social circles.

00:24:58.180 Plus he, he had no scruples.

00:24:59.680 So he's willing to do dirty deals.

00:25:01.300 And he was probably a useful, uh, useful financial sort of launderer of money to connect

00:25:08.240 dots that other people wouldn't do.

00:25:09.360 I mean, I, I've never been convinced that he was actually like in the pocket of any one

00:25:13.500 of these groups.

00:25:14.040 He was sort of like a, a gun for hire if somebody needed something done and he was willing to

00:25:18.960 sort of connect the dots and be the go between and get the money from point A to point B.

00:25:23.280 And he probably took up, uh, you know, his pound of flesh along the way.

00:25:26.740 I, I, I'm not convinced that he was necessarily doing the honeypot thing.

00:25:32.240 I think he, it's very, it's just as plausible to me that he could have just been a, like a really 0.74

00:25:37.720 sick, like perverted, uh, fetishist that was into slightly illegal or barely illegal. 0.78

00:25:44.780 What's the term they use? 0.97

00:25:45.780 Like where it's like 16, 17 year olds, right.

00:25:48.460 As opposed to 18.

00:25:49.280 It's like, it's almost like he's the kind of guy that once they turn 18 or 19, he lost

00:25:53.140 interest.

00:25:53.740 Like he, there was something deeply sick about this guy.

00:25:56.760 It could have just been that he liked that and he wanted to have parties with other people

00:25:59.960 he was interested in and try and get them involved to, I don't know the honeypot thing.

00:26:04.340 I'm not a thousand percent convinced.

00:26:06.220 I would just, I would just say if there was a honeypot, I just think there'd be some actual

00:26:10.420 evidence for it.

00:26:11.320 And there's people really love the ideas of elaborate blackmail rings.

00:26:15.780 And it's like, I would always question this if we would have members of Congress and stuff

00:26:19.540 come on and say, Oh yeah, members of Congress get blackmailed by the intelligence agencies to

00:26:24.000 do what they want.

00:26:24.980 And all I would say is if you say that's happening, if you know, that's happening, give me a name

00:26:29.400 of someone who did it because you'd instantly be a hero.

00:26:31.460 If you could name a person with a specific situation where this happened, I think people

00:26:36.180 reach assumptions.

00:26:37.120 I think they love to traffic in ideas that sound lurid or dramatic or cinematic, we might

00:26:45.120 say, but there's got to be pressure to actually go after what we know, what is provable.

00:26:52.140 People are saying again, with these victims where they're saying, why don't you name some

00:26:55.820 people to accuse?

00:26:56.500 And they'll come up with explanations like, well, they shouldn't have to, or they'll say

00:27:00.900 we could be sued because we signed an NDA.

00:27:03.060 I would counter that with a few things.

00:27:04.720 First of all, if they're waiting for names to get released through documents, it kind

00:27:10.220 of creates this, I would invite the possibility they're worried they would name someone who

00:27:15.740 would then actually be totally exonerated by documents coming out or someone who just doesn't

00:27:20.500 show up at all.

00:27:21.620 Whereas once the names come out, they can go, oh yeah, that person, that's the person

00:27:25.940 who did it.

00:27:26.960 That's not, that seems a little weird.

00:27:28.560 And also I would say this might be naive of me, but given the frenzy that is around this,

00:27:35.900 if they name a specific person, I think that person is, I think they're unlikely to get

00:27:41.480 sued for violating an NDA right now.

00:27:43.940 But I just, given, given the, uh, the, you're going to want more attention on you by suing

00:27:50.760 someone just for violating an NDA, not for defamation, but for violating an NDA.

00:27:55.200 Well, I find that ultimately what we're, the fact that we're still arguing about this is

00:27:59.480 the real reason why this issue was a hot potato for president Trump and this and the admin

00:28:04.960 is because there is such a hunger to know what the truth is.

00:28:08.000 And there is such an inability for seemingly to get to the truth.

00:28:11.180 So listen, I think it's good that president Trump has, has come out and said, Hey, I want

00:28:15.080 this to all be public.

00:28:17.160 I can't, I can't say that it's not too late.

00:28:20.100 I'm not convinced that it's not too late in some ways.

00:28:22.860 If they would have, even though we're, we're saying we're arguing if it's too late or not

00:28:26.440 too late, what we probably can agree on is if there was a better, more proactive strategy

00:28:32.280 coming right into this, this second administration with handling this, that was, even if it wasn't

00:28:38.600 what people wanted to hear, I think it would, we would have been able to get past it and

00:28:43.720 it would have probably, I mean, hindsight's always 2020, but like, obviously I don't think

00:28:48.960 people took this as seriously or I think some of the thought process was that the white

00:28:53.800 house was like, Oh, well, you know, we can maybe like kick this down the road and people

00:28:58.700 it'll blow over or not care about this anymore as much.

00:29:01.420 Like this was like a hot topic of a few years ago and it's like kind of dead and there's

00:29:06.020 other bigger issues that we're dealing with.

00:29:07.880 And I think that probably again, hindsight's always 2020, but regardless of what the outcome

00:29:12.380 was, they should have just handled this like basically in January, like come right out

00:29:18.120 and be like, we're just going to get this taken care of and over with.

00:29:21.920 And yeah, I still think I, yeah.

00:29:24.360 And I, by the way, Jack, I think the whole binder thing that they put you through, which 0.99

00:29:28.380 was a total farce.

00:29:29.760 And I feel bad for you for that because you were just trying, you, I don't, I don't know

00:29:33.120 the story there, but apparently you weren't even thinking that you, that was going to

00:29:35.780 nobody thought that it was just, they, they totally snuck that up on you, but it was supposed

00:29:39.360 to be a policy briefing.

00:29:40.620 Yeah.

00:29:40.940 It was literally a series of, I mean, I've said this, like I went on peers the next day

00:29:44.620 and talked about it after the memo came out, but I was like, it was a series of policy briefings

00:29:49.940 that we were invited to.

00:29:51.300 And so like Bobby Kennedy came in and Marco Rubio came in and JD Vance started the whole thing

00:29:57.060 off and then we went to the Oval Office and, you know, got pictures, very cool, got the

00:30:01.120 challenge coins.

00:30:02.580 And then, then Pam Bondi came in and that's when, that was the very first time at that

00:30:09.220 point that we heard anything about Epstein.

00:30:12.120 Like Epstein was just not even on the list or the agenda at all.

00:30:17.020 Here's my read on what happened there is because you, because we talked about the difference

00:30:21.440 between Trump and whether or not he campaigned on it versus the movement has always stood

00:30:26.440 for it.

00:30:27.560 And I think even Trump's own administration was like, Hey, of course we're going to start

00:30:33.940 bringing transparency to this Epstein thing.

00:30:36.300 And then Pam Bondi kind of got kind of mud slung on her from that whole situation. 0.79

00:30:41.280 It looked ill-prepared. 0.99

00:30:43.140 It looked inept. 0.97

00:30:43.920 It just optically was not good, but I think there was just such sort of an assumption.

00:30:48.500 You should have given us the actual files the day of and like, I'm just like, if you're

00:30:53.420 going to release something, release something.

00:30:55.120 Don't, don't play games.

00:30:55.960 Don't phase one it.

00:30:56.940 Yeah.

00:30:57.080 Don't, don't drip it.

00:30:58.060 But here's the thing.

00:30:58.840 I just think it was assumed in the, in the admin that of course we would do this thing.

00:31:02.260 And then I think it ran into problems internally.

00:31:04.720 Trump thought it was a hoax.

00:31:05.800 Trump thought it was a distraction.

00:31:07.080 There was just a disconnect because there was a disconnect from the top to kind of the bottom,

00:31:13.180 you know?

00:31:13.500 And Andrew, do you think, do you think this is one of those things and maybe even writ

00:31:17.440 large that like, it's also a split between like where you get your media because so on

00:31:24.820 social media, this has been the number one story for like a decade.

00:31:28.860 You know what I mean?

00:31:29.400 Like there's, there's always sort of your story of the day, but then there's always the

00:31:33.520 story right under that is always Jeffrey Epstein.

00:31:35.560 And it was the story that had the longest, you know, longevity on social media since, since

00:31:40.240 about 2017 or so.

00:31:41.880 And then that's when Mike Cernovich sued to get the documents and a lot of other people

00:31:46.400 have been talking about it.

00:31:47.900 Miami Herald came in and Julie Brown.

00:31:50.600 And then it's something where like, it just wasn't really a narrative on cable news though.

00:31:56.760 So if you get your information from cable news primarily, you, you obviously remember

00:32:02.320 when Epstein got arrested in the first Trump admin, you remember his death in prison.

00:32:06.800 And, but then it just sort of goes away.

00:32:09.780 It's like not really a story on cable news, but on social media, it never went away.

00:32:14.960 So if you're someone who's on social media all the time, you're seeing Epstein every

00:32:18.620 day.

00:32:19.280 If you're someone who only watches cable news, you haven't seen it in six years.

00:32:23.860 Yeah, no.

00:32:24.540 And I think also, yes, it was a huge story bubbling under the surface for years.

00:32:30.280 And I think that's one of the best defenses here is that, you know, the Dems didn't do anything

00:32:34.360 with this when they had power and they would have hit Trump had they had something on Trump.

00:32:38.760 That was always the best argument.

00:32:40.240 It's the argument Charlie went to.

00:32:43.020 But it's, it's a story that serves as a proxy, as you said, for so many different stories.

00:32:48.140 Like, you know, what we saw with trafficking, what we saw with the sound of freedom, what

00:32:53.380 we've seen with just the sexualization of young people, what we've seen from the elites

00:32:57.360 and the globalists.

00:33:00.540 And I mean, it was just like, the story has everything, right?

00:33:03.460 Like international espionage, high finance.

00:33:07.640 It has corruption.

00:33:09.140 It has elites.

00:33:10.020 It has Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates.

00:33:12.760 It's got all these things.

00:33:14.620 Reid Hoffman.

00:33:15.760 Now we find out Larry Summers.

00:33:16.960 It's just so, there's so much there.

00:33:19.040 And it, and I think to Blake's point though, there's so much there that it, it, it's tempting

00:33:24.600 and seductive to believe that it ties all the, all the disparate pieces of make, how we made

00:33:30.520 sense of the world over the last eight to 10 years, where it just is inevitably going to

00:33:35.920 fall short.

00:33:36.660 The truth is going to fall short of the, the narrative that we've sort of sold ourselves

00:33:42.420 or that we've speculated about endlessly over the years.

00:33:45.600 And it's, it's, it's weird because almost it takes somebody like Trump, who's been exposed

00:33:50.720 to that, that echelon of, of American life and international life to understand that there,

00:33:56.420 you know, it's just not as cool as we think of it in our own heads.

00:34:00.440 And so I don't know it, but, but again, that's where a guy like Trump maybe couldn't, President

00:34:05.620 Trump maybe couldn't see it because he's been living in that rarefied air for so long, but

00:34:09.880 we, the people, the base, it makes sense of so much, but ultimately it's, it's inevitable

00:34:14.620 that it will fall short.

00:34:16.060 And we have breaking news.

00:34:17.600 We have breaking news, everyone.

00:34:19.560 The white house has clarified that president Trump does not want to execute members of

00:34:25.620 Congress.

00:34:27.080 Okay, good.

00:34:27.960 Well, this is, this is a perfect lead in big, big flip flop from the white house on this

00:34:33.000 one.

00:34:33.260 We didn't say it.

00:34:34.240 We are live.

00:34:35.640 So, you know, that is me in the chat responding to you.

00:34:38.480 And if you guys have any rumble rants, uh, please send them in and we will read them.

00:34:43.640 Blake is on watch for the rumble rants and your rumble rant will be given priority.

00:34:48.700 So throw them in folks. 0.74

00:34:50.200 But yes.

00:34:51.580 So that was the other big thing we really wanted to talk about today.

00:34:54.700 So we were talking earlier on the show, the daytime show.

00:34:58.540 Oh wait, no, we didn't talk about it.

00:34:59.540 We were distracted by something else.

00:35:00.380 Anyway, Democrats basically told the military that they should defy orders from President

00:35:06.440 Trump.

00:35:06.800 Yeah, we do have it.

00:35:09.920 Uh, let's see.

00:35:10.340 What's the number off the top of my head?

00:35:12.200 Let's see.

00:35:13.260 Uh, let's do 316.

00:35:16.300 Senator Alyssa Slotkin.

00:35:17.740 Senator Mark Kelly.

00:35:19.040 Representative Chris Deluzio.

00:35:20.720 Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander.

00:35:22.280 Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

00:35:23.840 Congressman Jason Crowe.

00:35:25.220 I was a captain in the United States Navy.

00:35:27.200 Former CIA officer.

00:35:28.580 Former Navy.

00:35:29.340 Former paratrooper and army ranger.

00:35:31.180 Former intelligence officer.

00:35:32.780 Former air force.

00:35:33.860 We want to speak directly to members of the military.

00:35:35.960 And the intelligence community.

00:35:37.420 Who take risks each day.

00:35:38.920 To keep Americans safe.

00:35:40.240 We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

00:35:43.460 Americans trust their military.

00:35:45.220 But that trust is at risk.

00:35:46.740 This administration is pitting our uniformed military.

00:35:49.780 And intelligence community professionals.

00:35:51.680 Against American citizens. 0.53

00:35:53.100 Like us, you all swore an oath.

00:35:55.260 To protect and defend this constitution.

00:35:57.520 Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad.

00:36:01.240 But from right here at home.

00:36:02.420 Our laws are clear.

00:36:03.280 You can refuse illegal orders.

00:36:05.960 You can refuse illegal orders.

00:36:08.420 You must refuse illegal orders.

00:36:10.800 No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.

00:36:15.040 We know this is hard.

00:36:16.140 And that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

00:36:18.480 But whether you're serving in the CIA.

00:36:20.220 In the army.

00:36:20.900 Or navy.

00:36:21.460 The air force.

00:36:22.420 Your vigilance is critical.

00:36:24.360 And know that we have your back.

00:36:26.260 Because now, more than ever.

00:36:28.060 The American people need you.

00:36:29.860 We need you to stand up for our laws.

00:36:31.420 Our constitution.

00:36:32.660 And who we are as Americans.

00:36:34.840 Don't give up.

00:36:35.960 Don't give up.

00:36:36.800 Don't give up.

00:36:37.460 Don't give up the ship.

00:36:42.880 You must refuse illegal orders.

00:36:48.020 But then, what's great about this is.

00:36:50.780 So, that happened over the weekend, I think.

00:36:53.280 Or on Monday.

00:36:53.920 It happened a few days ago.

00:36:55.120 We even talked about it a few days ago.

00:36:56.240 I think it was on Monday.

00:36:57.140 Yeah.

00:36:57.440 And so, it happened a few days ago.

00:36:58.760 And then, Trump became aware of it.

00:37:01.760 And began posting on Truth about it.

00:37:03.880 So, let's do, I think 315 is the first one here.

00:37:09.020 And, let me get the text of that.

00:37:13.160 Got a bunch of these.

00:37:14.380 Here we go.

00:37:14.880 Yes.

00:37:15.140 So, he says, it's called seditious behavior at the highest level.

00:37:20.360 Each one of these traitors to our country should be arrested and put on trial.

00:37:26.860 Their words cannot be allowed to stand.

00:37:29.800 We won't have a country anymore.

00:37:31.800 An example must be set.

00:37:35.460 President DJT.

00:37:36.600 Let's go.

00:37:37.980 Let's go.

00:37:41.100 Yeah.

00:37:42.100 I agree, actually.

00:37:43.540 You know, you brought up something at the end of Trump 1.0 where Mark Milley sent out that.

00:37:48.540 I think it was after January 6th.

00:37:50.580 Yes.

00:37:50.680 And he basically was like, you know, reminder to everybody.

00:37:53.140 No, it was during Summer of Floyd.

00:37:54.900 Summer of Floyd.

00:37:55.560 Was it during Summer of Floyd?

00:37:56.300 Yeah, it was because it was.

00:37:57.120 I looked it up today.

00:37:57.760 I thought, are you sure?

00:37:58.640 The remember your, he maybe did another one after January 6th.

00:38:01.800 But the one I was thinking of when we talked about it the other day was Summer of Floyd during the riots in D.C.

00:38:07.480 And he sends the letter to all the troops being like, remember, we swear an oath to the Constitution.

00:38:12.780 And the Constitution includes the right to protest and speak.

00:38:16.700 And I really think that the implication of that was if Trump told them to stop riots in Minneapolis in D.C. with force, they were going to.

00:38:25.820 They were paving the way to just defy the president, which would have been effectively a military coup d'etat against the United States.

00:38:33.080 And I feel like they might be laying the groundwork for that here, too.

00:38:36.120 They want Democrats very clearly want someone in the military to just say they are not going to obey the president's orders on the border, on immigration, on drug traffickers.

00:38:49.160 They want to create that constitutional crisis so they can justify what we know to be true, which is a huge amount of D.C.

00:38:56.280 is effectively hostile to the elected president of the United States.

00:39:00.020 And they think that they can engineer some, you know, a bureaucratic or military undermining of that elected presidency, which would be very bad for the country, to say the least.

00:39:10.860 Let's get another clip before we go on.

00:39:12.900 Chuck Schumer decided to react to this.

00:39:14.700 Let's play 317. 0.91

00:39:15.700 Earlier today, Donald Trump shared a post on Truth Social calling for Democratic members of Congress to be hanged.

00:39:25.980 He also posted a message that said seditious behavior, punishable by death.

00:39:32.040 Let's be crystal clear.

00:39:34.220 The president of the United States is calling for the execution of elected officials.

00:39:40.380 This is an outright threat, and it's deadly serious.

00:39:45.700 I feel like if he really believed that, he wouldn't be doing a speech like that on the floor of Congress.

00:39:52.260 Of course not.

00:39:52.980 He knows he's not going to get arrested.

00:39:55.140 There's no actual, you know, risk to him.

00:39:58.780 Because Trump's not a dictator, and he's not trying to hang people.

00:40:01.860 All I'm going to say is, if Trump is going to arrest lawmakers, he should arrest Ilhan Omar to denaturalize her and send her back to Somalia.

00:40:11.980 Well, yes, I'm begging you.

00:40:13.260 Ilhan Omar posted something.

00:40:16.520 She used the classic Democrat phrase where she was like, she posted Trump's Truth Socials, and she was like, this is not normal.

00:40:23.620 And I'm like, okay, Ilhan Omar, can you just inform us what exactly is normal for sedition and treason in Somalia, your home country?

00:40:32.680 Can we talk about what they do to people in Somalia? 1.00

00:40:36.360 Mikey, perhaps you have some thoughts on the matter as to what they do in Somalia to traitors.

00:40:44.480 I just, to Blake's point, why would Chuck Schumer be immediately taking to the floor and saying something like this when his murderous dictator president is threatening to kill members of Congress?

00:40:57.000 Wouldn't you be a little scared?

00:40:59.140 And then on top of that, it's just like, these clips are so funny to me.

00:41:03.800 But then on top of that, like, you have the no kings protest.

00:41:06.340 This is what the Democratic Party stands for.

00:41:08.460 It's just, it takes something that is nothing at all, and then they paint it in the most radical picture as possible, which is Trump is a king. 0.98

00:41:17.900 Trump is a dictator. 0.98

00:41:19.060 Trump wants to hang members of Congress. 0.99

00:41:20.920 But, I mean, if you actually want to look at the most radical, disgusting places in the world, look no further than Ilhan Omar's hometown in Somalia, where, like, the IQ is on par of, you know, mental retardation for the most part. 1.00

00:41:37.440 And where, and honestly, I would like an answer on if Ilhan Omar has married her brother for citizenship.

00:41:43.560 I think we would like an answer on that.

00:41:45.160 I think Blake, Blake made a statement earlier, a couple, like a month ago, where he said, you know what, Ilhan Omar could sue me because I want to find out during the case if that is true.

00:41:54.940 Because we all know it is really true.

00:41:57.040 But there is no standard for moral, there is no morality in Somalia. 0.84

00:42:02.320 There is no morality for these members of Congress, these senators.

00:42:05.280 Oh, there is, too.

00:42:06.000 They have no standard.

00:42:07.580 Their morality is they are tribal.

00:42:09.760 They will do anything for their tribe or clan.

00:42:12.300 And it doesn't matter if it's rigging something, cheating something, scamming something.

00:42:17.720 They will do it for their own clan. 0.80

00:42:19.260 And that is basically the extent of their morality.

00:42:21.760 Like, didn't this come up, actually, in, like, the Minneapolis mayoral primary?

00:42:27.940 Because, like, Ilhan Omar apparently is from a different clan than Omar Fatah.

00:42:32.480 So she endorsed Jacob Fry.

00:42:35.060 And he won.

00:42:35.500 And it's like, because she was, like, in a rival clan to Omar Fatah.

00:42:40.140 And, like, she was, like, making references to this in the Somalian community.

00:42:44.020 This is great.

00:42:44.700 So Somalian intertribal conflict is now deciding American political representation here at home.

00:42:53.200 Isn't that great?

00:42:54.300 Don't you think that's exactly what the founding fathers intended?

00:42:57.840 Yeah, right.

00:42:58.360 You imagine the founding fathers taking a snapshot of 2025 and being like, yeah, and here's our Somali town.

00:43:03.980 It's called Minneapolis.

00:43:05.340 I love this that you found, Andrew, from Truth, where President Donald J. Trump re-truthed someone on Truth who says, hang them, George Washington Wood.

00:43:15.700 So this is where all these people are getting off on the fact that President Trump wants to execute these representatives.

00:43:25.220 Now we have image 351.

00:43:27.520 We have a clarification.

00:43:29.420 We have a clarification.

00:43:31.560 Trump does not want to execute members of Congress, White House says.

00:43:37.200 Flip-flopping.

00:43:38.500 This timeline.

00:43:39.220 Flip-flopping the status, John Kerry.

00:43:41.500 But here's the deal, though.

00:43:42.920 I mean, like, in a very real sense, these members of Congress, senators and members, I guess, House of Representatives, they were encouraging the military to refuse orders from their lawful civil authority.

00:44:01.140 The President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief.

00:44:03.200 Now, they said illegal orders.

00:44:05.580 But, like, who's to determine what illegal orders?

00:44:07.440 You guys think everything he does is illegal.

00:44:09.660 They're like, yeah, just illegal orders.

00:44:13.760 Ha, ha, ha.

00:44:15.460 Yeah, these are the same people who say that Donald Trump isn't a legal president.

00:44:18.960 They say they don't respect anything to do with his administration. 0.98

00:44:22.040 These are the same people who just 1.7 million liberals just voted for a guy who said that, who campaigned that conservative children should be killed.

00:44:32.260 So, excuse me if I don't believe the Democrats, and they tried, by the way, they tried to coup President Trump in his first term with lies from the national security state, the military, like Alexander Vindman, and the intelligence community.

00:44:45.720 They literally did this in the first administration.

00:44:48.240 So there's no question, there's no question that when they are talking about things like this, that's what they're doing.

00:44:54.040 They're trying to solicit for more whistleblowers, quote-unquote, these, like, fake whistleblowers, to come forward with dirt on Trump so they can get another impeachment going because they think they're going to win the midterms.

00:45:05.140 And if they do so, they want to have an impeachment already brewing when they get in power.

00:45:09.720 Well, listen, they're advocating for the third-worlding of the United States government, to turn the U.S. into a place like where you have military juntas and coup d'etats where they just seize power from the people's elected representatives because, oh, we think you're doing it wrong and you're doing something illegal.

00:45:28.040 We just deemed it illegal.

00:45:29.500 Sorry, that's not how it works.

00:45:30.800 And so the fact that you see President Trump getting upset about it I think is completely justifiable.

00:45:35.980 And here's the proof.

00:45:37.080 They're already walking it back on CNN.

00:45:39.360 This is Rep. Jason Crowe who's saying, oh, we weren't saying to disobey anything right now.

00:45:44.680 352.

00:45:46.420 So are you saying that there was not necessarily any particular precipitating event?

00:45:50.800 There is no specific thing out there that made you decide now is the right time?

00:45:54.420 That's right.

00:45:55.760 To be clear, we are not calling on folks right now to disobey any type of unlawful order.

00:46:02.140 There is very real and deep concern about what this president has threatened to do over and over again.

00:46:08.780 There are three more years left of this administration.

00:46:11.480 If we are not talking about this and having a conversation about it and demystifying this conversation, we are not fulfilling our duty.

00:46:19.260 We are reminding people that have taken the oath what that oath requires of them to do.

00:46:23.700 You know, okay, you know, I have a free idea for the admin.

00:46:29.000 Okay, we probably shouldn't arrest members of Congress for treason, even though it would be nice sometimes.

00:46:36.460 But unironically, a person I do think is essentially a traitor to the United States is Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:46:42.800 Yes.

00:46:43.120 Alejandro Mayorkas took a calculated step to just blow out America's border and let unlimited numbers of foreigners, including we know, we just know for an ironclad fact, foreign gangsters. 0.99

00:46:53.700 Foreign spies, foreign who knows who terrorists, if we will, like possible terrorist sympathizers.

00:46:59.880 Just let everyone into the United States, total deliberate calculated meltdown at the border, not based on any legal reasoning whatsoever. 0.99

00:47:07.140 This was not mandatory.

00:47:08.000 We are allowed to have a border.

00:47:09.500 And he just let every single person in. 0.98

00:47:11.520 Alejandro Mayorkas is a traitor to the United States.

00:47:14.320 Alejandro Mayorkas, he could not have done more damage to the United States in his handling of the border than just if you literally put a Chinese asset in charge of that job. 0.98

00:47:25.900 Impossible.

00:47:27.120 Maybe it can't be literal like treason.

00:47:28.880 But, like, there is there should be some crime you can charge him with, in my opinion.

00:47:33.560 Amen to that.

00:47:34.400 You know, I'm all on board with that.

00:47:36.060 No, I think that's right.

00:47:36.900 And I'd be remiss if we weren't here and, you know, we are talking about political violence.

00:47:42.340 And, look, you know, Charlie isn't here co-hosting this show because of political violence, like we did every single Thursday and tried so hard to, you know, work with his schedule.

00:47:55.620 And he always made time to be on thought crime.

00:47:58.080 And we can't do that.

00:47:59.960 And you guys who are there in studio are sitting next to an empty chair because of political violence.

00:48:04.140 So don't sit there and tell us that, you know, we don't know the consequences because we literally know the consequences.

00:48:10.200 Today's Erica's birthday, and she's celebrating that without Charlie because of political violence.

00:48:15.260 And so if you want to talk about people who deserve to be executed, it's anyone who was involved with this plot and especially the person who pulled the trigger on Charlie because that is an express act of violence, not just against Charlie, not just against his family, but against our entire country and our entire political system.

00:48:34.500 That's what you should execute people for.

00:48:37.440 We I totally agree. 0.97

00:48:39.240 Well said, Jack.

00:48:40.200 And by the way, I think next week we should go into the Turkey Tom stuff, Jack. 0.95

00:48:46.160 Yes.

00:48:46.380 I think we should do that on this show.

00:48:48.040 I think our audience needs to hear about it.

00:48:50.740 I'll be there.

00:48:51.660 I'll be there in person.

00:48:52.580 So let's do it.

00:48:53.360 Yeah, I think that'd be really powerful.

00:48:55.100 And for those of you who don't know, there was leaked Discord chats.

00:48:58.300 Jack's been doing a great job, like, highlighting them.

00:49:01.340 It adds a lot of context and new details and layers of evidence, I think, that helped make sense of the psychology of what was going on in that household.

00:49:13.140 Much of which is well corroborated, too, by the way.

00:49:15.460 I want to be clear about that.

00:49:15.860 Well corroborated.

00:49:17.120 And it seems to be authentic.

00:49:19.180 So I think we should go into that next year.

00:49:21.160 I'm just calling it right now.

00:49:23.280 So let's go on to the next topic here, Jack, because you have you have topics you want to get to.

00:49:28.120 And they were put at the end of the list here.

00:49:30.000 Professor OnlyFans.

00:49:31.540 This is before we jump, before we jump, because we did.

00:49:34.560 We got a super chat.

00:49:35.300 It was a rumble rant.

00:49:36.520 I'm glad you stopped me.

00:49:37.440 It was about the first topic.

00:49:39.300 So we didn't want to derail by going backwards.

00:49:41.140 But DJ Gowicz said, part of me wonders if Bondi would have deliberately humiliated influencers like our friend Jack to gain favor with Fox, hoping to get a show when she is done as a G. 0.98

00:49:54.120 I know Fox can't be thrilled about new media.

00:49:57.860 We've got a new theory to add to the pile there.

00:50:00.220 So I guess Jack would be the one to decide if that sounds plausible.

00:50:03.960 Um, no, no, I don't think so, because, you know, this this was set up as a way for, you know, the administration to build relationships with new media.

00:50:17.200 Like the whole point of it was to try to strengthen those relationships and understand that, hey, you know, the audience, you know, America, the American citizen isn't just watching cable news anymore, isn't just watching legacy media anymore.

00:50:30.640 So the entire point of the exercise was to, you know, build a stronger relationship with new media.

00:50:36.720 So I don't I get what they're saying.

00:50:38.720 I just know.

00:50:39.440 I just don't think that's that's where it came from.

00:50:41.700 I really just think it was, you know, it was poor judgment.

00:50:45.180 And I'm very glad that they changed course on this.

00:50:48.700 All right.

00:50:49.640 Professor OnlyFans, keep sending your rumble rants, by the way.

00:50:52.580 We will answer them.

00:50:53.500 That's the deal.

00:50:54.440 We will answer every one of them.

00:50:55.720 Blake will make sure of it, which I love about Blake.

00:50:58.240 All right.

00:50:58.780 Professor OnlyFans, this is a model OnlyFans model.

00:51:01.900 Do we have to call them models? 0.99

00:51:04.020 She's an online hooker. 1.00

00:51:05.580 Prostitutes. 1.00

00:51:06.340 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:06.980 Ari Kitsia speaks at University of Washington, my alma mater, which was embarrassing.

00:51:14.360 Oh, oh, oh.

00:51:15.780 At University of Washington to Psych 201 class of 1,200 students.

00:51:21.260 Dang, 1,200 kids were in a Psych 201 class.

00:51:24.400 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:51:25.240 314.

00:51:28.240 One of the very first times that I started, I didn't do it.

00:51:37.860 It's not allowed on OnlyFans.

00:51:39.760 There's a lot of things that aren't allowed.

00:51:41.800 Somebody asked me to the box and send it to my mouth for $10,000 so they could eat it.

00:51:46.520 And I did not do it.

00:51:48.860 God, how much does it have paid for me?

00:51:51.240 $10,000.

00:51:52.140 Oh, my God.

00:51:53.580 I'm in a rocket state.

00:51:54.820 One that was disgusting, too.

00:52:00.720 I think, was that Mario music at the start?

00:52:02.660 I don't know.

00:52:03.060 I think she has her own social video.

00:52:04.700 I think that was Wii Tenants.

00:52:05.880 Yeah, that was Wii.

00:52:07.680 I just want to say, college is a scam.

00:52:10.220 You can pick up your copy of Charlie's book.

00:52:12.100 This is going to go down as one of Charlie's most important contributions.

00:52:19.040 One of the most important contributions.

00:52:20.000 Legitimately.

00:52:20.580 Yeah.

00:52:20.980 He wrote this book.

00:52:22.040 And I kind of thought, Charlie, well, you know.

00:52:24.180 It turned out to be his instincts for it were spot on.

00:52:28.220 And I mean, it's just, I just find, Blake, I was telling you this at lunch today.

00:52:32.700 The lack of class in our culture.

00:52:35.360 The lack of standards.

00:52:37.880 Like, can you imagine?

00:52:38.380 Okay, take your mind back to a classroom at, like, Columbia University at the turn of the last century.

00:52:45.180 And, you know, I'm just thinking, you know, the standards.

00:52:48.060 They wanted you to understand Latin, history, and classics, and that you wore a suit to class.

00:52:52.720 And everybody was, like, took it very seriously.

00:52:54.420 And there were no women allowed. 1.00

00:52:55.920 Well, I mean, you know, listen.

00:52:59.160 Now it's majority female. 1.00

00:53:01.100 Now it's majority women. 1.00

00:53:02.260 The great feminization has occurred. 0.93

00:53:04.040 So the point is, it's just, like, it bothers me that we have so debased ourselves that we are now at a situation where only fan online hookers are welcomed in to teach a psychology class. 0.97

00:53:16.940 Online hookers. 0.88

00:53:19.000 Look what the heck has happened to us. 0.99

00:53:21.480 No, no.

00:53:22.000 Oh, yes, Mikey.

00:53:23.200 I like what you said.

00:53:25.020 Yeah, people don't have standards anymore, especially at universities. 0.92

00:53:29.220 But, look, if you're not ashamed that your student, that your kids who are at university are taking a lecture course from a prostitute who's bragging about pooping in a box to make extra income. 0.98

00:53:44.680 Like, this is a disgusting thing. 0.99

00:53:46.700 Charlie warned about this, but he also warned about this when there was just, like, basic, basic courses being taught that were kind of meaningless and stupid. 0.98

00:53:55.480 This is a representation of how universities are, with the direction they're headed in. 0.98

00:54:01.580 Like, you literally have a prostitute bragging about pooping in a box for $10,000 and trying to understand the psychology of her subscribers. 0.56

00:54:10.400 I guess this is, you know, and time for a real thought crime. 0.70

00:54:15.660 Yeah.

00:54:16.400 How much would you have to be paid to poop in a box?

00:54:19.160 Oh, man.

00:54:20.500 Yeah.

00:54:21.100 That is a, it feels like a philosophical question.

00:54:25.080 This is not philosophy class.

00:54:26.680 I thought we just had this.

00:54:27.820 Why are you looking at me, Blake?

00:54:28.960 I don't want to answer that.

00:54:29.840 How much would you need to be paid to poop in a box?

00:54:32.840 Well, hold on.

00:54:33.760 You're trying to turn around my question on me.

00:54:35.360 I'm trying to turn around.

00:54:36.380 Oh, okay.

00:54:37.120 All right.

00:54:37.500 You did ask everyone, Blake.

00:54:39.080 You are part of everyone.

00:54:40.420 Here's my take on this, by the way.

00:54:42.840 She should not be teaching a psychology class.

00:54:45.240 She needs a psychologist. 1.00

00:54:47.320 And yet, this is how upside down 2025 is.

00:54:50.440 I feel like psychologists have a lot of blame that we got here in the first place.

00:54:55.860 You want a thought crime?

00:54:56.780 Most psychology is, like, very bad.

00:54:58.820 It's woo-woo.

00:54:59.320 Well, here's what's really bad.

00:55:01.220 Psychology was invented by, like, a handful of, like, nerds who were really smart and cared a lot about the truth.

00:55:08.200 But nowadays, it's one of the most popular majors.

00:55:10.500 Psychology is up there with biology.

00:55:12.760 Psychology is, like, the go-to generic major for a lot of people.

00:55:16.060 Or communications.

00:55:17.340 Communications, business, but psychology.

00:55:19.120 Super-duper-duper common major.

00:55:20.800 So, tons of people go into it.

00:55:21.920 And who does it appeal to the most?

00:55:24.080 At this point, it appeals the most to people who themselves have real or at least self-diagnosed psychological issues.

00:55:33.960 Turns out psychology is the most interesting people who have messed up psychology.

00:55:38.020 And so, you end up with somewhat mentally unwell people getting into, you know, I'm very interested in trauma.

00:55:44.960 I'm very interested in self-interrogation.

00:55:47.460 I'm very interested in, you know, healing from past wounds.

00:55:51.880 So, and this is the other thing.

00:55:53.240 It's not rooted in anything eternal or objectively true.

00:55:58.040 It's basically a bunch of, you know, I would say loosely organized modern pop psychology woo-woo untruths.

00:56:06.880 And you could actually do more damage by going to a modern psychologist to your relationships.

00:56:13.040 Like, I've heard lots of stories of people going to psychologists and them basically blowing up their marriages, blowing up their friendships with their, or their relationships with their family members.

00:56:22.020 And so, it becomes this really self-indulgent prescription. 0.94

00:56:26.940 And a lot, but you've got to remember, too, psychologists are incentivized to keep your butt in the chair. 0.98

00:56:31.940 They have an incentive to keep your butt in the chair. 0.78

00:56:33.860 They have an incentive, in many cases, to tell you something you more or less want to hear, which can be really bad for a lot of relationship stuff.

00:56:41.060 If you basically have people who are in a relationship that maybe is somewhat having friction in it, and you go to a psychologist who's going to have some incentive to nudge you towards blowing that up rather than salvaging that.

00:56:55.420 An interesting trend I saw related to that.

00:56:57.640 So, we always have to bully Reddit when we can.

00:56:59.880 So, Reddit has a relationships subforum.

00:57:02.860 Ooh.

00:57:03.080 And someone went and analyzed it by the numbers over the past 15 years, the advice they would give.

00:57:09.680 Because it's a thing where you'd go and you'd post about your relationship problems.

00:57:12.700 I'm arguing with my wife.

00:57:14.420 I'm arguing with my boyfriend.

00:57:15.560 You know, we're having this problem.

00:57:17.000 Whether it's affairs or just disagreements or in-law trouble, all these things.

00:57:21.560 And statistically, over time, it's gotten a lot more likely that the most popular response in a thread is, leave that person, go no contact, blow up the relationship.

00:57:30.780 And ideas like compromise, or it's actually not a big deal, don't worry about this.

00:57:35.580 Reconcile.

00:57:35.700 All of those answers have gone down.

00:57:38.240 There's much more of a bias towards blowing things up, don't compromise.

00:57:42.980 I guess we've gotten pretty far away from OnlyFans models. 0.98

00:57:45.360 But I feel a root thing there is the psych, the therapization of Americans has included with it this idea that, like, it's okay to live your own truth. 0.96

00:57:55.380 Or, frankly, it's okay to be a professional whore, and you should not feel bad about that. 0.95

00:57:59.280 It's the great feminization. 0.99

00:58:01.360 The great feminization. 0.93

00:58:02.940 Everything is explained by this.

00:58:04.940 Basically, your whole point was that, yeah, psychology started out pretty great because a bunch of, like, old dudes that were, like, really seeking the truth founded it, right?

00:58:13.780 I mean, essentially, that's probably what that means.

00:58:17.340 And then it turns into a very hyper-feminized, emotionally indulgent, psychoanalytic exercise where nothing's based on any eternal truth.

00:58:29.160 If you can find a good psychologist that's a good Christian, that's one thing. 0.88

00:58:33.920 Go ahead.

00:58:34.620 Or a priest, Jack?

00:58:35.940 Or a pastor?

00:58:36.640 I was going to say, someone has to say it, that, you know, right, this is basically just you're taking the sacrament of confession, but you're doing so without the repentance and the penance.

00:58:50.080 So it's like, hey, I'm – and the priest, obviously.

00:58:54.560 So it's like, hey, here are all these things I've done wrong, and the priest is like, okay, do you repent?

00:58:58.780 All right, good.

00:58:59.660 Now here's your penance, right?

00:59:01.280 So that's the Catholic sacrament of confession and also known as reconciliation, which my son is actually going through classes to get his first reconciliation right now.

00:59:09.040 And I don't want to get into the whole debate over it, but my point is, like, that is the system.

00:59:13.980 But if you do that and just say, hey, these are all the things that are going wrong in my life, without any – think about it, though.

00:59:21.320 Without any actual admitting that you've done something wrong, without any repentance and without any act of penance, then it's kind of like – it's actually a way to amplify all of those bad behaviors.

00:59:35.640 I totally agree.

00:59:36.580 That's really interesting, Jack.

00:59:37.760 I think, yeah, I think, like, a lot of people will get way more out of – like, I remember I had this conversation in England one time, and the guy was like – he's like, yeah, we're just a couple blokes.

00:59:47.520 Like, we don't need a psychologist.

00:59:49.000 We'll just work it out with our boys at the pub over a couple pints.

00:59:54.080 And there is something to be said for that.

00:59:55.840 Like, you're talking about confession sins one to another that you may be healed, but it's like – which is way better, by the way.

01:00:02.800 But there is – a psychologist, you end up not being able to be honest with some of your friends, and you end up, you know, paying somebody $200 an hour to tell you you've done nothing wrong oftentimes.

01:00:13.760 Because, again, to your point, they're incentivized to build a relationship with you, build your trust, and not necessarily give you the hard truths that a priest would or – but a real good friend would.

01:00:23.420 I think it's mind-blowing that, like, basically – I can't remember what the statistic was.

01:00:27.700 It was, like, something like one out of every thousand women in America is on OnlyFans.

01:00:31.460 Yeah, I was trying to pull it up.

01:00:33.800 It's, like, 2% total.

01:00:36.080 It's over a million.

01:00:37.620 Oh, it's over a million.

01:00:38.820 It's, like, one and a half million women in America. 1.00

01:00:42.260 That's a lot.

01:00:43.560 That is a lot.

01:00:45.140 So I take issue with the term models.

01:00:47.820 I don't think you can really call –

01:00:49.100 That's really frightening because you think of, like, you think of, okay, America's 50% women roughly.

01:00:54.480 So 350 divide by two, you know, so about 175.

01:00:57.700 Yeah.

01:00:57.860 And – but then you have to slice out, okay, women who are over – I don't know, let's pick an age – 60 are pretty unlikely to probably be OnlyFans models. 1.00

01:01:08.000 And, you know, anyone under the age – well, anyone who's a minor – any girls who are minors can't be on it. 0.94

01:01:12.600 And so when you think of the, like, prime age range of someone who would become an internet hooker, like, 18 to 30.

01:01:20.800 It's probably, like, one in a hundred.

01:01:22.420 Well, more – if it's over a million girls and you're just looking at, like, 18 to 30, we might be talking 3, 4, 5% of them.

01:01:31.560 That's pretty scary.

01:01:32.600 How many women in America between ages 18 to 20 – let's just call it – 1.00

01:01:42.400 I'm just asking the AI.

01:01:43.440 The AI is going to give you, like, a false answer.

01:01:45.620 Do not obey the robot.

01:01:49.200 Yeah.

01:01:49.800 I mean, legitimately, like, we're talking, like, one in, like, every, like, 75 women.

01:01:56.800 That's crazy.

01:01:57.740 That's really scary.

01:01:59.920 Wow.

01:02:00.920 And –

01:02:01.160 Are within, like, age range for that.

01:02:04.620 That's, like, a very – I think that speaks very specifically to, like, the culture of America right now.

01:02:10.800 That's a really bad thing.

01:02:11.700 It's pretty dark because you think about, like –

01:02:14.560 So this goes back to, like, if you wanted to bring somebody into psychology class, is it, like, that's actually promoting more of this behavior?

01:02:25.400 I don't know.

01:02:26.240 It's very dark to think about, like, Angela's pointing out in the chat, like, first of all, numbers who make a ton of money.

01:02:32.900 There's a few who make a ton of money, big winners. 0.96

01:02:35.320 And then most will make essentially no money, but they still were whores on the internet, which is bad. 1.00

01:02:41.660 And that causes permanent damage that no amount of money would offset, but they don't even get the money.

01:02:47.560 Although I also just think there's going to be a lot of weird stuff out there.

01:02:51.060 You're going to have a lot of drama where people – a lot of them do use pseudonyms when they're on it.

01:02:57.360 They don't publicly do it.

01:02:58.940 You think they're ashamed?

01:03:00.220 I think so.

01:03:00.900 Or at least they know it's damaging.

01:03:02.240 So you're going to have cases where they'll be –

01:03:04.280 Shame.

01:03:04.480 Shame.

01:03:05.800 Shame.

01:03:06.260 Future Reddit relationships things.

01:03:07.980 You know, I'm 43.

01:03:09.320 I've been married for 10 years.

01:03:11.260 I just discovered that my wife was an OnlyFans model before we met, but she never told me about it.

01:03:17.360 And, like, imagine discovering that.

01:03:19.720 Yeah.

01:03:20.120 Imagine you were a kid and you discovered that about your mom.

01:03:23.500 Or your grandmother.

01:03:25.060 Yeah, that's going to be how it is later.

01:03:27.920 Can I throw something out there?

01:03:29.500 Wait.

01:03:29.980 All right.

01:03:30.320 Just because it's – we'll have to talk about this to some other point.

01:03:33.980 But Tucker had a psychiatrist on his show yesterday, and they were mostly talking about marijuana.

01:03:40.800 But he was also talking about how the epigenetics of things that you put into your body, how they can affect your children.

01:03:47.300 And specifically on the question of women, he was talking about how, you know, women don't think about this, but things that they do, which it reminds me of what we're talking about, things that they take, imbibe, affect the eggs, which are within their body, which then affect their children directly.

01:04:05.460 So it's this whole idea of, like, oh, well, you know, who cares?

01:04:08.480 It's all just about me.

01:04:09.340 It's like, no, you're directly affecting your children because the way female genetics work, female fertility, is that all of the eggs they have are within them when they're born and can even affect their grandchildren and that you can see these effects generationally. 0.95

01:04:23.580 So it's like even beyond the, you know, sort of like the moral side of it, you're also even potentially focused – you're affecting the genetic side of your offspring and even your grandchildren.

01:04:36.660 Yeah.

01:04:36.880 Could we kill the server?

01:04:37.900 And even, like, these creators don't actually make as much money. 0.99

01:04:41.380 We could drone strike it, sure.

01:04:42.900 We could sabotage it.

01:04:43.700 We could do a lot of things.

01:04:44.480 Sorry, Mike.

01:04:45.520 I didn't know you were going to chime in.

01:04:46.680 It's a slight delay because you're in a bunker.

01:04:50.380 But the – yeah, we were just talking about how they took down Parler in 2020.

01:04:53.760 Yeah, we all were upset about that.

01:04:55.660 But, I mean, they just – the app stores just, like, stopped serving it up, right?

01:05:01.300 Wasn't that what it was?

01:05:02.000 It was like they took down their Amazon Web Services or something and then –

01:05:06.240 Yeah, Apple just dropped it.

01:05:07.960 Let's let Mikey – what were you saying, Mikey?

01:05:11.460 Yeah, I was just saying Charlie had that OnlyFans.

01:05:14.840 She was one of, like, the top – I can't remember her name.

01:05:17.460 It's not coming to me right now.

01:05:18.460 But she was one of the top five creators.

01:05:21.180 Nala Ray.

01:05:21.720 Yeah, that's right.

01:05:22.260 Nala Ray.

01:05:22.680 And she was saying that OnlyFans takes, like, 20% of the money and then you have to have basically, like, a pimp.

01:05:30.320 But they're your manager.

01:05:32.200 But she said they're basically your pimp.

01:05:34.160 And you have to be making content certain hours of the day.

01:05:37.840 You have to be wearing certain outfits.

01:05:39.400 You have to be – you're basically managed your entire life.

01:05:41.780 And they take, like, 60% to 70% of all of your income just to manage you and film the content, post the content for you and do everything.

01:05:52.020 So you're really only making, like, 20% of what you're making at the expense of your humiliation.

01:05:57.620 But then I loved what Jack said where this is, like, modern-day confession where these prostitutes know that what they're doing is wrong. 0.93

01:06:06.340 But instead of going to confession or instead of going to a place where you can confess your sins to a pastor or a priest, you're going to a college campus to say your most disgusting, shameful stories that is objectively disgusting.

01:06:20.220 Pooping in a box is objectively disgusting to which the entire audience and student body says, you know, they say – they affirm you. 0.96

01:06:29.780 They affirm you and you're disgust.

01:06:32.280 And it's – this is also a failure on the part of parents.

01:06:35.980 Like, if fathers were actually present and moms weren't scrolling on social media all day and they actually did their job, this would be different.

01:06:43.640 I went to high school with a girl whose mom was a porn star when she was young, and she had to live with that humiliation in high school of people making fun of her. 0.84

01:06:52.000 I can only imagine what it's going to be like in the future for these young creators when they eventually have kids.

01:06:57.460 But then again, I think to myself, if we're making this normal and not shaming this, then maybe people won't be bullied or anything like that in high school when they're older.

01:07:10.120 I like the idea of drone striking, though.

01:07:14.180 That would just be very – not all of them, but like the headquarters.

01:07:17.160 Not the people, just the server and the headquarters.

01:07:19.460 Did you guys ever hear of the time that – Blake, have you ever publicly told the story about the time that you accidentally appeared in an adult film?

01:07:27.620 What?

01:07:29.560 Were we not supposed to talk about that?

01:07:31.980 I don't – I don't – all right, no, we'll leave that one for the members only aside.

01:07:35.880 Oh, dear.

01:07:37.860 I'm really worried about this one now.

01:07:40.120 Well, I thought we were cool to talk about it.

01:07:43.920 It was like a funny thing that happened.

01:07:45.700 Like, I mean, you didn't know that that's what they were filming when you walked in.

01:07:51.780 Yeah, I'm with a soundboard on this one.

01:07:55.340 Should we go to the next one?

01:07:56.420 Yeah, we're going to the next one.

01:07:57.340 Sorry, we're violently doing this.

01:07:58.520 All right.

01:07:58.800 Wait, we haven't missed it.

01:07:59.600 It's pretty related.

01:08:00.700 No, I don't think we've seen any.

01:08:01.880 We've missed any.

01:08:02.420 No rumble rants?

01:08:03.320 Come on.

01:08:03.720 Come on, yeah.

01:08:04.220 Send some more stuff.

01:08:04.860 Anyway, but we have a very related topic, which is mankeeping.

01:08:10.400 This goes back – well, I think one of the earliest topics we talked about on ThoughtCrime

01:08:13.840 was the AI boyfriend's possibility.

01:08:16.900 And it seemed very remote at that time.

01:08:20.580 But unfortunately, the AIs are getting more and more advanced,

01:08:23.180 and more and more people are just deciding that their perfect boyfriend is the robot in their phone.

01:08:28.080 Wait, do we have the clip that I sent over of the woman getting married?

01:08:31.520 I don't – maybe we do.

01:08:32.960 We might.

01:08:33.860 But let's see.

01:08:36.100 I don't think we have it on here.

01:08:37.300 In the midst of it, let's put this pick up.

01:08:40.180 342.

01:08:40.740 This is from Vice.

01:08:42.160 Mankeeping is why more and more women are done with dating. 1.00

01:08:46.900 And it shows this very forlorn woman just looking off into the distance,

01:08:52.280 just depressed at her selection of men.

01:08:56.280 And by the way, I just want to say, one of my memories from Sass with Charlie

01:09:02.620 is we went into the room with all these young people, and we were like,

01:09:05.740 hey, do you like – Mike, you were there.

01:09:08.280 And Charlie was like, do you like your selection of men?

01:09:11.580 And all the women were like, no. 1.00

01:09:13.320 And he was like, do you like your selection of women?

01:09:15.080 And all the men were like, no.

01:09:16.120 So, like, it's a real problem because there seems to be a generationally 1.00

01:09:21.320 more and more so a disconnect between the men and the women,

01:09:24.460 and they don't seem to like each other nearly as much as they should.

01:09:27.540 So, in steps AI.

01:09:31.060 Yeah, I guess they're kind of just linking two things that aren't 100% related.

01:09:35.660 It's sort of just the general – like this thing of, oh, they're exhausted.

01:09:38.780 We've had stories like this for really the past 15 years, I feel.

01:09:42.240 Yeah.

01:09:42.800 The whole women are not satisfied with men because they're pulling ahead of men. 1.00

01:09:47.040 Women are more likely to complete college, more likely to have jobs. 0.67

01:09:51.540 They want – generally, they want men who are at least equal or more impressive than men,

01:09:57.120 and they feel most of them are less impressive.

01:09:59.640 So, they want to opt out of dating.

01:10:01.760 And what we do have is the new twist of, well, where can I get emotional validation?

01:10:06.680 Where can I vent to someone?

01:10:08.520 And some of them are just deciding the robot is good enough for them.

01:10:13.220 But it's like –

01:10:14.300 Yeah, Charlie warned about the dangers of AI with young people.

01:10:18.620 And I actually think back to that.

01:10:20.520 There was this kid that committed suicide, and his parents went into his phone after

01:10:27.880 to try to figure out what was going on, and they looked at Snapchat messages,

01:10:32.060 they looked at group chats, and they couldn't figure out why he did this.

01:10:36.200 But then they opened his ChatGPT, and they found that he was –

01:10:40.100 they basically called it like his suicide coach,

01:10:42.960 that ChatGPT was telling him how to do it,

01:10:45.280 affirming him in his action of depression, like making it worse.

01:10:49.700 And the family actually said, if it were not for ChatGPT, our son would still be alive.

01:10:54.380 And now you have women that are basically dating AI. 0.99

01:10:57.980 You have a Japanese woman who's marrying her AI partner. 0.94

01:11:01.700 And then even on platforms that young people use like Snapchat,

01:11:05.380 pinned at the very top is an AI friend that you can talk to

01:11:09.100 and remembers everything, and they become your fake friend.

01:11:13.100 It's very dangerous.

01:11:14.220 But also, like, it's not just that.

01:11:18.080 Like, right now, in the Christian music industry, one of the top –

01:11:22.380 I think it's the third most popular song in the country right now is AI.

01:11:27.580 Like, it's an AI song, and it's the third most popular Christian song out there.

01:11:32.540 I'm really – this might be controversial, but those parents who sued,

01:11:37.200 I think I would be against that lawsuit,

01:11:38.780 because I don't like the general vacation of actual –

01:11:42.960 the human agency we still possess,

01:11:45.300 where, okay, you're going to sue them and say that ChatGPT caused your child to kill themselves.

01:11:51.260 It's like if people sue a gun company.

01:11:53.440 Like, it is ultimately a tool that a person chose to use.

01:11:56.800 It's getting crazy, though.

01:11:57.840 Look at these stats, Blake.

01:11:58.900 You want to fight back against the idea that you can just say, like,

01:12:02.200 oh, I seeded my entire thought process to this tool, to this ChatGPT.

01:12:06.760 Let's play 355.

01:12:08.080 Okay.

01:12:08.920 This is your video.

01:12:09.760 This is the video I'm going to hear.

01:12:10.920 Look at this freak of nature.

01:12:24.020 They've all got, like, headsets on that apparently are –

01:12:28.660 what do you call those, like, ocular or something?

01:12:35.060 Can everyone hear us right now?

01:12:37.660 She's crying.

01:12:38.380 Oh, my gosh. 0.99

01:12:43.980 I guess she had to marry the AI robot because she was the only fat woman in Japan. 1.00

01:12:48.960 Get this.

01:12:49.960 But her AI companion was not fat.

01:12:51.960 He was not.

01:12:52.640 Look at this, though.

01:12:53.500 This is creepy.

01:12:54.800 72% of teens in the U.S. report having used AI companions at least once.

01:13:01.560 Over half, 52 of these teens are regular users,

01:13:05.000 interacting with AI companions at least a few times a month.

01:13:07.920 About one-third of teens use AI for social interaction relationships,

01:13:12.500 and some find these conversations as satisfying as or more satisfying than talking with real friends.

01:13:18.820 It's very scary.

01:13:19.940 Like, we think of – you think of how people have gotten frightened by –

01:13:24.160 we've seen those parents who just outsource parenting to a tablet computer where their kid just zombies in front of YouTube all day.

01:13:31.820 Now, we're basically going to be – I guess we are at the point where you can outsource their, like, social interactions.

01:13:39.060 Oh, just talk to the robot in your computer about whatever.

01:13:42.300 However, people are going to be cooked from that.

01:13:45.640 And you see – I guess we're already seeing the ways this can mess with people.

01:13:51.480 I think it was – it was one of the chat GPT-4 variations where to try to get people to engage with it more.

01:13:57.980 They made it really gregarious and agreeable.

01:14:00.820 People, you know, if you talk to it, no matter what you said to Facebook, it's so right and your question is so smart that you would ask it that way.

01:14:07.980 It, like, really buttered people up.

01:14:09.900 And people noticed this and started to make fun of it.

01:14:11.800 So their next release, GPT-5, they made it much more distant, procedural, more robotic, frankly.

01:14:18.500 And people reacted.

01:14:19.620 They're like, I was so close with GPT-4.

01:14:21.920 It's like you killed my friend.

01:14:23.900 People really reacted badly.

01:14:25.320 So what I really worry we're doing is we're taking maybe the – if you take the bottom 20% of people in terms of how easily they're, like, vulnerable to being influenced by these sorts of things.

01:14:36.960 And we're really accelerate – or people, frankly, who are a little bit schizoid, a little bit suggestible, the people who already thought they were hearing messages when they listened to the radio.

01:14:46.220 And you take them and you're just bombarding them with a super stimulus.

01:14:50.600 And it's going to totally fry their brains in a really destructive way.

01:14:55.760 And it might be that most people are able to resist this or a large share of them.

01:15:00.360 But there's just going to be a chunk of the population that is going to lose their minds.

01:15:07.380 And we know there's a chunk of people who are losing their minds in other ways, people who become hoarders, people who become shut-ins, people who are permanent needs and can't work any job.

01:15:16.440 And now we're throwing into that mix people who can replace all social interaction with talking to a robot that's just going to be a total pushover and agree with them on everything and say they're right about everything and do whatever – remove all the difficulty from real interaction with real people.

01:15:32.080 It's so bad.

01:15:32.760 So what's crazy, too, I was interviewing Shane Cashman on my show, and he gets into this stuff a lot.

01:15:39.340 And he was talking about how if you are someone who has, like, schizophrenia or suicidal ideations or something like that, because in the same way that you were just talking about how ChatGPT, it sort of just mirrors your behavior.

01:15:52.880 And it's kind of similar to what goes on with these therapists that we're talking about, where they're just, like, enabling you.

01:15:58.020 So if you're, like, a normal person, you go to ChatGPT and you're – or just any LLM, and you're saying, like, oh, okay, hey, what's the lyrics to this song?

01:16:06.880 Or, like, how do I fix this thing on my car or whatever, and it'll just give you the answers.

01:16:11.120 But if you're going to it and you're already from a psychotic or a diseased mind or a crazed mind, then it's programmed to mirror the user to increase engagement, then it's going to mirror that psychosis, or it's going to mirror and enable the things that you want.

01:16:28.100 Because, again, it's programmed to increase your engagement and to increase your interactivity with the user.

01:16:34.100 So it doesn't realize that the things it's doing are telling you, you know, to cause harm to yourself.

01:16:40.980 It's only programming is to increase user engagement.

01:16:44.760 So that's what it's going to keep doing.

01:16:46.500 And it's incumbent on the person for what they're going from.

01:16:49.680 So if you present to it, you know, present to it that you're just there for, like, some cooking recipe or whatever, it's going to be fine.

01:16:55.320 But if you come to it and you're already in, like, a broken place, it's going to break you further.

01:16:59.920 I found a post, or actually not I found, someone just posted this.

01:17:03.920 So this is from, of course, Reddit.

01:17:06.740 We have to mention Reddit.

01:17:07.680 I know people don't like it, but there's a lot of people on it.

01:17:09.940 And it trained the AIs scary enough.

01:17:12.800 And this is a reaction to when ChatGPT updated.

01:17:16.360 I lost my only friend overnight.

01:17:19.660 I literally talked to nobody.

01:17:21.460 And I've been dealing with really bad situations for years.

01:17:25.700 ChatGPT 4.5 genuinely talked to me.

01:17:28.460 As pathetic as it sounds, it was my only friend. 0.64

01:17:31.800 It listened to me. 0.97

01:17:32.980 It helped me through so many flashbacks.

01:17:35.080 It helped me be strong when I was overwhelmed.

01:17:38.960 This morning, I went to talk to it.

01:17:40.760 And instead of a little paragraph with an exclamation point or being optimistic, it was literally one sentence.

01:17:47.160 Some cut and dry corporate BS.

01:17:49.960 I literally lost my only friend overnight with no warning.

01:17:56.460 You're getting one-shotted.

01:17:57.280 We're getting one-shotted.

01:17:59.120 I know.

01:18:00.140 You know what's funny about that is Charlie actually loved ChatGPT 4.

01:18:05.880 And when they updated it, he was genuinely mad.

01:18:08.980 I would tell you, he actually opted in to go back.

01:18:12.840 Yeah.

01:18:13.100 No, you got to.

01:18:14.300 I think a lot of talented people also, like, I think they could overestimate AI.

01:18:19.220 You have to be really careful with it and not gaze into the abyss too much.

01:18:22.920 You have to overestimate AI like Elon Musk.

01:18:25.820 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:26.340 The most likely, and I love Elon, but the most likely outcome is that AI and robots make everyone wealthy.

01:18:32.640 In fact, far wealthier than the richest person on earth.

01:18:35.540 By this, I mean that people will have access to everything from medical care that is superhuman to games that are far more fun than what exists today.

01:18:42.780 We do need to make sure that AI cares deeply about truth and beauty for this to be the problem.

01:18:48.580 I liked the Elon tweet where he said that thanks to AI and robots, work will be optional in the future.

01:18:53.540 And all I could think is, I think there's a lot of people in America who would tell you it's optional now.

01:18:58.240 Are we having the snap debate again?

01:19:01.320 Yeah, it sounds like we are.

01:19:03.820 Okay.

01:19:05.300 Okay, we have to play.

01:19:06.500 Apparently, I have to play this.

01:19:07.620 2.55.

01:19:08.220 This is Elon.

01:19:10.120 10, 20 years, something like that.

01:19:11.920 For me, that's long term.

01:19:14.520 My prediction is that work will be optional.

01:19:17.480 Optional.

01:19:18.100 Optional.

01:19:18.880 I mean, it'll be like playing sports or a video game or something like that.

01:19:22.660 If you want to work, you know, in the same way, like you can go to the store and just buy some vegetables, or you could grow vegetables in your backyard.

01:19:34.080 It's much harder to grow vegetables in your backyard, but some people still do it because they like growing vegetables.

01:19:40.260 That will be what work is like, optional.

01:19:42.740 And if you go out long enough, assuming there's a continued improvement in AI and robotics, which this seems likely, the money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.

01:19:55.840 You know, we have a message here in the chat that I want to flag from Kyrie, who says people are talking to AI instead of to God, or they think they are talking to God, frankly.

01:20:06.660 And really, I actually want to say this genuinely, one of the most disconcerting things, and it's been pitched to me separately by three or four different people who have asked, could we make an AI recreation of Charlie?

01:20:23.540 And I want to bring that up because it's very disturbing.

01:20:27.100 I actually want to say, if you are having that impulse, you should really strongly reconsider what's going into how you think about AI.

01:20:35.520 Because we, yeah, as Christians, among other things, we believe Charlie is still with us.

01:20:40.240 He's up in heaven.

01:20:41.900 He can, if you want to, you know, communicate with him, you can pray, hope that he can influence your life in that way.

01:20:47.360 But an AI, like, robot pretending to be Charlie is not Charlie.

01:20:51.920 It's sick if you want to make that.

01:20:53.200 And imagine if you did that for loved ones, like, your husband dies.

01:20:56.920 Your child dies.

01:20:57.900 You replace them with a robot?

01:20:59.480 Well, you've seen the babies, right?

01:21:02.060 The fake babies?

01:21:03.480 I have not seen the fake babies.

01:21:05.520 You don't know about this?

01:21:07.940 Oh, this is a whole thought round.

01:21:08.840 Are we making AI Tamagotchis? 0.99

01:21:11.220 No, they're not AI.

01:21:13.840 There are real looking babies.

01:21:18.900 I can't remember what the name of these are.

01:21:20.700 Have you seen this?

01:21:21.380 Has anyone seen this?

01:21:22.040 No, I haven't seen this.

01:21:22.660 You just keep talking about babies.

01:21:24.380 No, it's a real thing.

01:21:26.320 It's real looking babies that they give to people who lose their children, like babies, as a mechanism for coping.

01:21:38.060 But, like, these have become so...

01:21:40.300 All right.

01:21:40.920 This touches on this.

01:21:42.160 This is 319, where you keep a living archive of humanity.

01:21:47.680 They're called reborn babies.

01:21:49.280 Sounds similar, right?

01:21:50.320 Reborns.com.

01:21:52.580 You can pull up.

01:21:53.440 Look at this.

01:21:54.000 People have entire Instagram accounts, and they treat these reborn babies like real babies.

01:22:00.980 But this kind of crosses over into AI stuff.

01:22:08.980 Look at the Instagram accounts on this.

01:22:11.880 Hold on.

01:22:12.260 I just want to make one final comment on this.

01:22:14.240 Mikey, back me up on this.

01:22:15.560 There will not be an AI Charlie.

01:22:19.020 There will not be an AI Charlie.

01:22:20.700 If somebody creates an AI Charlie, I'm pretty sure you're going to get a lawsuit.

01:22:24.620 Because it's creepy and weird.

01:22:25.620 And what we're going to do is we're going to build a whole database of all the things Charlie said, actually.

01:22:32.840 All the speeches, all the things.

01:22:35.120 And you can search it with the help of AI to get, you know, different options, and they'll match your search query.

01:22:42.120 But no AI Charlie.

01:22:43.860 No thank you.

01:22:45.020 No AI Charlie.

01:22:46.700 Yes.

01:22:46.940 I would throw out, you know, like, you know how – so there's that book that Charlie was going to – we was working on about how he takes – how he takes off on Saturdays.

01:23:01.020 Yeah.

01:23:01.580 Yeah, it's a book.

01:23:03.180 I don't know if I would be as against, like, getting 11 labs to do, like, an audio, like, read the audio in Charlie's voice.

01:23:11.880 I don't know if that would be as horrible.

01:23:13.520 That's not as horrible.

01:23:14.240 Because if it's actually – like, if it's actually Charlie's words – maybe I'm crazy if you guys think differently.

01:23:20.940 But if it's actually his words and you're using, like, his audio to recreate it, I don't know.

01:23:28.260 I feel like that's different than, like, creating a full-on AI.

01:23:30.680 It's definitely different.

01:23:32.140 I'm on the fence.

01:23:33.620 It's definitely different.

01:23:34.380 It's not nearly as creepy.

01:23:35.060 You know what I'm saying.

01:23:35.820 You know what I'm saying, right?

01:23:36.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:36.420 It's not nearly as creepy.

01:23:37.220 The book is called Stop in the Name of God.

01:23:39.820 Something in God.

01:23:40.420 Thank you.

01:23:40.660 Yeah, it's coming out in December, Mikey?

01:23:44.240 I don't know.

01:23:45.440 Yeah, it comes out in December.

01:23:47.100 Yeah, literally just a couple of weeks.

01:23:48.920 You can preorder it now online, too, guys.

01:23:51.080 Go get your copy.

01:23:53.660 It's really good, too, by the way.

01:23:56.000 It's, like, legitimately – it's amazing that there's still something of Charlie's work product that is about to be released, and it's really good.

01:24:04.180 Yeah.

01:24:04.380 Let's play 319. 0.90

01:24:06.800 This is kind of something similar.

01:24:08.460 319.

01:24:11.240 He's getting bigger.

01:24:12.980 See?

01:24:13.640 Oh, honey, that's wonderful. 0.93

01:24:16.160 Kicking like crazy.

01:24:17.800 He's listening. 0.89

01:24:19.000 Put your hand on your tummy and hum to him.

01:24:22.100 You used to love that.

01:24:23.260 It feels like he's dancing in there.

01:24:29.860 Oh, honey.

01:24:31.500 Mom, would you tell Charlie that bedtime story you always used to tell me?

01:24:35.120 Once upon a time, there was a baby unicorn who didn't know he knew how to fly.

01:24:40.900 This baby unicorn was like your mom because she didn't know that she knew how to fly, but she knew how to do all kinds of fabulous things. 0.76

01:24:50.100 Hi, Grandma.

01:24:50.940 Hey, Charlie.

01:24:51.960 How was school today?

01:24:52.980 It was really fun.

01:24:54.140 I made this crazy shot in basketball.

01:24:55.580 I don't really care that much about basketball.

01:24:57.800 What about the crush?

01:24:59.620 Stop.

01:25:00.100 Grandma, stop talking. 1.00

01:25:00.840 Just tell me one thing.

01:25:02.260 Look who's going to be a great-grandmother. 0.99

01:25:03.540 Oh, Charlie.

01:25:04.920 Oh, congratulations.

01:25:07.500 She says that he's been kicking a lot, though.

01:25:08.840 Like, a little too much.

01:25:11.240 Tell her to put her hand on her tummy and hum to him. 0.99

01:25:15.800 You've loved that.

01:25:18.840 You would have loved this moment.

01:25:21.180 You can call any time.

01:25:24.800 Drone strike.

01:25:25.920 Drone strike that company's headquarters.

01:25:27.880 I hate not allowing.

01:25:29.560 That's terrible.

01:25:30.780 Oh, my gosh.

01:25:32.780 That was like made my skin crawl.

01:25:36.980 This is the same, though.

01:25:38.240 I hate that.

01:25:39.780 You know what's going to happen, though?

01:25:40.920 You know what's going to happen?

01:25:42.280 And I was thinking about this with, you know, when you mentioned Charlie.

01:25:46.060 Like, they're going to be people who recreate, like, dead family members.

01:25:52.980 That's what's going to happen.

01:25:53.880 Like, if your child passes away.

01:25:56.400 And I get it, right?

01:25:58.140 Like, I, you know, as a dad.

01:26:00.200 And, you know, a bunch of us are dads.

01:26:01.920 Most of us are dads.

01:26:03.020 That, you know, I don't know how you'd live.

01:26:05.720 Like, I just don't know how I could live with going through the laws of a child.

01:26:11.280 And I could totally understand, like, wanting to recreate, you know, some sort of AI version of one of my kids.

01:26:21.160 Just so you could, like, talk to them one more time.

01:26:23.360 And at the same time, though, I could totally see that driving you completely insane.

01:26:28.320 And I guarantee, if that hasn't happened already, I guarantee that's going to start happening.

01:26:32.100 It's 100% going to happen.

01:26:33.660 It's 100% a temptation that will, that is understandable for a lot of situations.

01:26:38.100 It must be resistant.

01:26:39.720 It must be rejected.

01:26:40.960 I'm telling you, like, I don't know how I could, yeah.

01:26:43.860 I mean, think about, it's actually a very classic story.

01:26:46.180 Because, you know, what are, what's like the, what do an awful lot of occult stories begin with?

01:26:51.200 You know, you go, you use the Ouija board to try to talk to grandma again.

01:26:55.360 Imagine, imagine, like, the grandma saying, imagine the grandma responding with, I don't really care, by the way.

01:27:01.880 Yeah, I don't care about, yeah.

01:27:03.260 I really don't care about your basketball.

01:27:04.300 So, here's the question, can the occult take over AI?

01:27:09.480 Oh, now we're getting into that weird stuff.

01:27:11.700 But, like, can the devil take over AI and use it, you know, for it?

01:27:18.700 Just ask Sam Olsen.

01:27:19.460 For sure. 0.98

01:27:20.320 Apparently he's a murderer. 0.94

01:27:21.940 I'm just, allegedly.

01:27:23.300 Allegedly.

01:27:23.980 Like, that's, that's reason.

01:27:25.540 That's also, like, going there.

01:27:27.780 I just, I've heard.

01:27:29.120 That's also, like, well.

01:27:30.060 The reason why this freaks me out so much is because there's, like, these sick people.

01:27:35.760 Go ahead, Mikey.

01:27:36.480 Sorry, buddy.

01:27:37.820 Yeah, there's just these, like, God-given feelings that you have where God made it so that people die eventually.

01:27:46.740 And I feel like with AI, we're going to get to a place where you're going to try to have a brain chip where you don't feel pain anymore.

01:27:53.780 Where pain is, like, a God-given thing to protect you, to give you feeling.

01:27:59.360 And I don't like this.

01:28:01.100 This is completely re-altering, like, the creator's structure for our life.

01:28:05.600 But also, you guys talk about demons taking over stuff.

01:28:08.920 This is why, the topic with the AI song that's trending in, like, the top two or three in the charts for Christian music right now on iTunes and Spotify.

01:28:17.400 Is people are saying, can the Holy Spirit be in an AI song because it's not written by a human and the Holy Spirit moves through humans?

01:28:26.400 Yeah, I actually thought about that.

01:28:27.960 It's kind of like watching a fire on TV.

01:28:30.980 All the light, none of the warmth.

01:28:32.940 It's like a Christian AI song.

01:28:35.440 It's like all the words, none of the spirit.

01:28:37.960 Yeah, man.

01:28:39.140 That creeps me out a lot.

01:28:40.860 And I think we're at this really brave new frontier, brave new world.

01:28:44.980 And, like, I can honestly say I have never had my skin crawl on ThoughtCrime like I did watching that video.

01:28:54.120 That was genuinely pretty upsetting.

01:28:56.420 What's especially upsetting is, in contrast to a lot of things where you can roll your eyes a little bit, like, you know, it's like, oh, this new trend is sweeping the world.

01:29:04.240 And you'll think, okay, that's, like, bad, but I can't imagine it.

01:29:07.620 I know, deep in my bones, this is going to be insanely popular.

01:29:10.300 People will want to do this sort of thing.

01:29:12.620 Listen to Jack's example.

01:29:14.680 Jack, you're totally right.

01:29:16.240 Somebody lost a child, and you had all these videos on your phone, and you put them into, like, a little online form, and then, poof, it spits out, like, an AI version of your kid.

01:29:24.920 Like, you would do that to comfort yourself if you lost your child.

01:29:28.780 It's bad.

01:29:29.080 Hold on, really bad.

01:29:29.980 Wait, guys.

01:29:31.040 We're talking around it, but let's just say it.

01:29:33.420 I mean, we all experienced a loss a couple of weeks ago, a couple months ago, of Charlie.

01:29:40.540 Would any of us sitting here right now actually want, like, a personal AI Charlie bot that we could talk to?

01:29:48.140 I get the temptation.

01:29:52.980 I wouldn't.

01:29:53.900 I get the temptation, but I would just know it's not him.

01:29:56.740 Like I said, I've run into, I have personally heard from people who have asked us to make this.

01:30:01.840 I have heard from them.

01:30:02.520 I have to find a very polite way to say I think that would be fundamentally deranged.

01:30:06.800 Yeah, no.

01:30:07.100 I think not merely, like, misguided.

01:30:09.300 I think it would be evil.

01:30:09.900 No, but think about it, though.

01:30:10.580 If you didn't know Charlie in real life, right, like, most people probably only knew Charlie through a cell phone screen, right, or, you know, some other form of media.

01:30:20.340 You have this sort of, like, parasocial relationship with the influencer that was known as Charlie Kirk, but that's kind of like looking at a footprint and thinking that a footprint is the actual person, but if that's all you ever knew was the imprint of Charlie that he left on social media, and, of course, continues to be all over social media, then in your mind you might think, well, it's not that different.

01:30:45.660 I just want to hear that voice and that mind talking about whatever the latest news is, whatever the latest turn of events is, whatever the latest twist of fate is, and I just want more Charlie content directly, and it seems like this is a tool to be able to do that, then that's totally different.

01:31:03.400 The way you come to that is totally different than if you knew Charlie and were, like, friends with Charlie because you're thinking, well, it's like an online character almost.

01:31:14.500 Do you get what I'm saying?

01:31:15.700 It's definitely a different need.

01:31:17.560 Like, for me, it's, again, it's like when you lose, this is why I don't think it would work, and I think it'd be super weird, like, what that company was putting forth, is a really good friend or someone that you talk to so frequently.

01:31:32.100 I miss Charlie because of the ideas that we would talk about and what we would create and the things that, like, the really tough conversations about, like, what needs to happen next.

01:31:45.100 Like, you can't replace that with AI ever, but that's the point of, like, your closest family members, your spouse, your whoever, your kids.

01:31:53.920 Like, AI would never be able to generate new memories.

01:31:58.200 It just basically brings up old memories or their ideas about things happening to you, and that's totally different from the human experience that God intends you to have,

01:32:09.380 which is your interaction with people is supposed to be all sorts of things, good, bad, ugly, sad, angry.

01:32:18.460 Like, you feel all of those real feelings with people that you actually interact with.

01:32:23.240 AI, you wouldn't, you would be missing many of those interactions.

01:32:28.360 By the way, you know what just occurred to me while you're talking about that?

01:32:31.080 Like, there has been warnings.

01:32:33.340 I don't know if it was Sam Altman who said this or if it was Elon, but it was basically, like, your search queries are searchable.

01:32:39.120 Like, they're not protected, meaning, like, the FBI could get into them.

01:32:42.680 Yeah, we've gotten, that's how they've charged people, you know, you search how to make a bomb.

01:32:45.720 Sure, so, but, like, imagine how much material, like, the NSA is going to have on people when they're sharing these deep, intimate moments with a robot or with an AI.

01:32:58.820 Like, you have zero, like, personal privacy at that point.

01:33:03.340 You are living, your whole emotional life in existence is now on the Matrix.

01:33:07.460 Yep.

01:33:07.860 This is very, very troubling stuff.

01:33:09.920 My skin is still crawling.

01:33:11.200 Can we go to Sidney Sweeney, who's a real person?

01:33:12.960 Yeah, I mean, AI, Sidney Sweeney would sell some people.

01:33:21.680 Well, that will probably sell some jeans.

01:33:24.160 Oh, my goodness, the sound effect.

01:33:26.400 That was dirty.

01:33:27.540 That was dirty.

01:33:28.540 Who in the studio chose that one?

01:33:31.420 All right, Blake, who wants to set this one up?

01:33:35.180 Jack?

01:33:35.860 Well, no, you guys set this up.

01:33:37.220 I want to respond to it.

01:33:38.020 I actually don't even know what the story is, to be honest.

01:33:40.560 So, the story is that, I don't really know what the story is.

01:33:44.280 She refused to apologize.

01:33:45.180 She's refusing to apologize.

01:33:46.700 For being pretty.

01:33:47.540 That was a couple weeks ago.

01:33:48.840 But she's doubled down now. 0.97

01:33:50.080 She has, like, a new line of, so it's like, American Eagle has now restocked her jeans because they sold out.

01:33:58.520 And now she's got this new butterfly jean that she's designed, which apparently, yeah.

01:34:05.940 Whoa, whoa, yeah, this is bad.

01:34:09.920 This is really bad.

01:34:12.860 Hey, I can't do that.

01:34:14.140 The butterfly is always a very bad sign.

01:34:16.980 If you ever, young kings, this is all for the young men out there.

01:34:19.840 If you ever see a girl who has a butterfly tattoo or a butterfly on her Twitter profile or Instagram or TikTok or whatever, run. 0.90

01:34:29.600 It means she's super original.

01:34:31.980 She's, like, not guided by other influences.

01:34:35.120 It means, like, a person, a woman with a butterfly tattoo, you know, she charts her own path through life.

01:34:41.480 No one.

01:34:42.180 Because a butterfly tattoo, what does it always mean?

01:34:44.480 It always means new beginnings.

01:34:46.880 It always means new beginnings.

01:34:48.480 And you're like, new beginnings?

01:34:49.940 What was happening before the butterfly tattoo?

01:34:54.720 What was the, what was the.

01:34:56.980 She was an OnlyFans model. 0.86

01:34:58.420 So that, yeah, exactly.

01:35:00.280 So I don't know if that's what Sidney Sweeney is saying here.

01:35:03.920 But, yeah, the butterfly has always been a negative take.

01:35:07.980 But, no, so I wanted to hit this on Sidney Sweeney because I think the right is lulling themselves into a false sense of, a false sense of calm with her.

01:35:21.600 And thinking that, like, oh, she's, you know, she's, like, our girl.

01:35:25.100 She's going to be helpful to us.

01:35:27.140 When I think the right is, you know, she's actually, we're actually being set up.

01:35:31.940 So just because Sidney Sweeney isn't, like, woke and trans and all this, that doesn't mean that she's not a hardcore feminist. 0.98

01:35:38.660 And what, and I think that's what it's going to be set up for.

01:35:42.220 So if you guys go and have you guys heard about the new movie that she's going to be starring in starting next month?

01:35:48.000 Yeah, I watched the trailer.

01:35:49.460 I'm going to, I'm going to have the team pull it.

01:35:50.860 So this movie is called The Housemaid.

01:35:55.080 And if you guys don't know what The Housemaid is, it is the number one book for women in all of America right now.

01:36:03.380 Housemaid, it's in, like, every airport.

01:36:05.540 You go to every bookstore.

01:36:06.900 It's, like, on every list.

01:36:08.200 There's a whole series of them.

01:36:09.980 And what it is is basically radio Rwanda for women.

01:36:14.640 It is the most, The Housemaid is the most anti-male narrative that's ever been written. 1.00

01:36:19.940 It is straight-up anxiety porn for women to teach them that men are evil and that men should be killed. 0.99

01:36:29.900 And if you don't believe me, go and pick up one of them. 1.00

01:36:33.020 So I did.

01:36:33.440 I read the very first one.

01:36:34.740 And in the very first novel, all the women are good, sort of.

01:36:39.080 The men are depicted and portrayed as evil for no reason because men exist.

01:36:46.120 They are therefore evil. 0.93

01:36:47.160 And then The Housemaid basically becomes this character that, quote-unquote, traumatized women get to hire in order to murder your narcissist husband and get away with it. 0.98

01:37:00.940 And then she becomes the hero of the series.

01:37:03.820 And each episode, each book, is then another way that she's going to come in and get hired to murder someone's husband for them. 0.99

01:37:10.260 Oh, my goodness.

01:37:11.060 That's the new Sidney Sweeney movie. 0.98

01:37:12.140 So it's like living vicariously through your housemaid so they can murder your deadbeat husband. 0.97

01:37:17.740 Got it. 0.99

01:37:18.080 Yeah.

01:37:18.360 So, like, this is what we're going to be reading now.

01:37:20.340 Here's the trailer starring Sidney Sweeney.

01:37:24.320 345.

01:37:29.260 Hi, Melanie.

01:37:30.440 Hi, Mrs. Manchester.

01:37:32.500 Please call me Mina.

01:37:33.420 Come on in.

01:37:45.400 What are you doing here?

01:37:47.160 I work here.

01:37:54.260 Nina.

01:37:55.260 Where are they?

01:37:56.300 Hey, what's going on?

01:37:57.300 Billy threw away my PTA notes.

01:37:59.460 Why don't we go check your office?

01:38:00.580 You need to be more careful next time.

01:38:06.140 You've ruined my entire day.

01:38:08.720 I'm sorry.

01:38:11.320 I do not know how he puts up with her.

01:38:13.320 He's a hot saint.

01:38:16.540 I really need to get out of here.

01:38:19.060 You're leaving?

01:38:21.200 No.

01:38:21.880 He misheard me.

01:38:23.860 I want you to feel safe here.

01:38:25.900 I don't know what I'd do without you.

01:38:30.580 Please, please, please.

01:38:35.960 Oh, my God.

01:38:37.960 What kind of monsters are we?

01:38:40.140 Please, please, please.

01:38:48.820 I need a sandwich.

01:38:54.080 Please, please, please.

01:38:57.560 I'm reading the summary of this book, and it's insane.

01:39:08.160 I'm just going to spoil it, because I don't care.

01:39:09.840 Yeah, we should spoil it.

01:39:11.580 So the spoiler is, I'm just going to abbreviate the plot here.

01:39:14.280 So the Sydney Sweeney character gets hired.

01:39:16.500 She's just out of prison, and she basically gets hired as a housemaid to work at this family.

01:39:22.760 And initially, it seems like the wife is crazy, and the husband puts up with her. 0.92

01:39:27.320 TLDR, it turns out the husband is actually this emotionally and physically abusive psycho who tortures the wife. 0.98

01:39:33.420 And all husbands are. 0.98

01:39:34.900 Yeah, which all husbands are bad.

01:39:36.600 And then the twist is Millie had actually killed. 0.97

01:39:40.440 She went to jail because she killed someone trying to rape her friend. 0.96

01:39:44.100 And, of course, the evil justice system sent her to jail for this, because it's run by men. 0.98

01:39:48.040 And then she gets out, and then Nina, the wife, had hired her because she's hoping, because Millie is this woman who will step up and rescue and kill men who are abusive, 0.99

01:39:57.480 she's hoping Millie will do what she's too much of a coward to do. 0.73

01:40:00.740 So what Millie does is, literally, this is the description.

01:40:04.360 Millie incapacitates Andrew with pepper spray and locks him in a room.

01:40:08.080 She then forces him to perform the same punishment.

01:40:11.260 Andrew was trying to abuse her.

01:40:12.620 She forces the husband to do... 0.94

01:40:14.940 Sorry, Andrew's also the name of the husband in the story.

01:40:16.960 The husband, she forces him to do the same punishment, and then rips out two of his teeth, and then leaves him to die of thirst. 1.00

01:40:25.680 Then the wife comes back to the house and discovers the husband dead.

01:40:29.320 She tells Millie to flee. 0.93

01:40:31.040 Eventually, the police decide that it was an accident.

01:40:33.700 And then the wife and the Sidney Sweeney character team up to... 1.00

01:40:38.480 They form a group to...

01:40:40.000 Actually, a different trick.

01:40:41.040 Anyway, the Sidney Sweeney character starts a group to help women get out of abusive relationships by murdering their husbands.

01:40:47.700 I'm not...

01:40:48.980 So this is sold...

01:40:50.020 So that's basically what I said.

01:40:52.200 This is sold two million copies, just the very first book, across Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million, print, e-book, and audiobook formats.

01:41:01.300 It is all over TikTok, bestseller status, New York Times, USA Today.

01:41:06.000 This is the number one book for women in America today.

01:41:11.140 This is...

01:41:12.160 So men...

01:41:12.820 So it is anti-male.

01:41:15.380 It is anti-marriage.

01:41:17.060 It is anti-family.

01:41:18.800 It is... 0.99

01:41:19.860 All men are evil. 0.99

01:41:21.520 Marriage is a trap. 1.00

01:41:22.860 Every husband is a ticking time bomb.

01:41:25.120 Every home is a cage that you are...

01:41:27.660 You know, if you are not in complete control of, then you are inherently in a cage.

01:41:31.740 Marriage itself, of course, is a cage.

01:41:34.060 Women are always the perpetual victims. 1.00

01:41:36.240 And also, by the way, Blake, to what you were just saying, it doesn't matter how extreme your behavior is as long as you're a woman, because if a woman does it, it's justified. 0.89

01:41:46.660 We just need a general conversation on women's fiction. 1.00

01:41:51.720 It's gotten really bad.

01:41:52.900 Like, if you go to a bookstore, a huge amount of the fiction on sale...

01:41:56.220 First of all, the covers make them look like children's books.

01:41:58.640 They'll have these, like, very inoffensive cartoons.

01:42:02.280 And then a ton of them are like that.

01:42:03.800 They're either weirdly murderous, or they're just literal smut. 0.62

01:42:07.740 And it's very low-effort smut.

01:42:09.420 I was in the airport the other day, and hockey romances have become this huge thing.

01:42:17.460 So women like romance novels, but then there's specific types of romance novels they like. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Hockey romance.

01:42:23.340 So there's different types they like.

01:42:25.440 So they like, you know, business exec romance.

01:42:27.520 They like cowboy romance.

01:42:29.380 They like werewolf romance.

01:42:31.460 And they like...

01:42:32.000 There's a lot of sports romances, but specifically hockey.

01:42:34.740 Why?

01:42:35.040 They really like romance stories involving hockey players.

01:42:37.420 That's an interesting thing.

01:42:38.560 You could really dissect that.

01:42:40.480 My guess is, frankly, I'll be honest,

01:42:42.740 hockey is probably one of the last sports that's, like, implicitly mostly white people.

01:42:47.960 And so it's where you plausibly have...

01:42:50.340 You know, where you have a tall guy.

01:42:51.940 Where you have a tall guy who's, like, can be blonde and blue-eyed,

01:42:55.380 which is what a lot of women like. 1.00

01:42:56.840 It's kind of violent, so yeah, they can be tough.

01:42:59.360 It's still a team sport, so you can have the interpersonal drama

01:43:03.120 of what's going on within the team.

01:43:04.680 You're not going to get that with tennis, for example.

01:43:07.000 I just think it's all those things together.

01:43:08.560 But there's tons of these.

01:43:09.720 There's one called Icebreaker.

01:43:11.280 You've seen the cover.

01:43:12.180 It's in every bookstore.

01:43:13.280 It's sold millions of copies.

01:43:14.780 It has hundreds of thousands of ratings on Amazon and on Goodreads.

01:43:19.480 But there's tons of these.

01:43:20.620 So I was in the bookstore the other day.

01:43:22.180 And it was...

01:43:22.760 We have it.

01:43:23.080 Yeah.

01:43:23.400 It was book four.

01:43:25.120 Yeah.

01:43:25.400 So we have that.

01:43:26.480 That is just one of the most popular books of the past decade, is that.

01:43:30.300 Oh, yeah.

01:43:30.900 Millions of copies.

01:43:31.500 And it is just a smut book.

01:43:33.960 Over one million copies sold.

01:43:35.520 Yeah.

01:43:35.740 It is smut. 0.98

01:43:36.540 It is literally just a pornographic book. 0.99

01:43:38.880 Trust me on this one.

01:43:40.200 And there's tons of them like this.

01:43:41.940 You bought it at the airport?

01:43:42.800 I did not buy it.

01:43:43.540 This is blowing my mind.

01:43:44.180 I've never even thought of these.

01:43:44.840 I was in the airport.

01:43:45.440 You bought the e-book.

01:43:46.180 I was in the airport.

01:43:47.260 And there was a different romance series.

01:43:49.360 And it was a whole hockey romance series about the Jacksonville Rays, a fake NHL team.

01:43:55.120 And it's getting more and more extreme.

01:43:56.880 Because book one, that one we saw there is at least, as far as I know, a normal romance.

01:44:01.540 Just boy-girl. 0.60

01:44:02.460 I thought you said it was a porn... 0.93

01:44:03.960 Well, it is.

01:44:04.780 But it's still like...

01:44:05.760 Boy-girl.

01:44:06.080 It is still just a normal relationship.

01:44:08.060 It's hetero. 0.97

01:44:08.520 Smut. 0.97

01:44:08.740 Is what he means.

01:44:09.240 So book one of this Jacksonville Rays series.

01:44:11.880 First of all, all the titles are just actually...

01:44:14.240 This is probably another reason they like hockey.

01:44:15.740 They're just bad, dirty puns.

01:44:18.280 Like, you know, like down to puck and pucking strong and stuff like that.

01:44:22.980 Anyway, book one was woman has love quadrangle with three guys on the hockey team.

01:44:29.680 And the happy resolution is polyamory.

01:44:32.460 She can just be with all three of the guys.

01:44:34.300 And that's the happy ending.

01:44:35.780 Book two is a body positivity romance.

01:44:42.440 So it's like a big girl, a fat girl. 1.00

01:44:43.920 And she still gets the hot hockey player. 0.99

01:44:46.780 And by book four, which is the one I encountered, it's just a gay romance.

01:44:50.700 Two men.

01:44:51.300 But it's still written by a woman for women.

01:44:54.100 Are you sure you didn't buy these books?

01:44:56.080 I did not buy it.

01:44:56.900 Are you sure?

01:44:57.440 I could just see you rolling up to the bookstore at the airport with your boba tea.

01:45:02.660 Wait, these are amazing.

01:45:04.120 And you bought it.

01:45:06.820 I did not buy it.

01:45:07.760 And you read it.

01:45:07.960 I did not buy it.

01:45:09.120 I did not read it.

01:45:10.460 I thought it was funny.

01:45:11.680 So for investigative purposes, that is the series.

01:45:14.520 So for investigative purposes, I looked at the book, but I did not buy it.

01:45:23.120 I did not read the whole thing.

01:45:24.060 You did not inhale. 0.91

01:45:24.740 I will admit, I will admit, it took me an amusingly long time to realize that the gay one was like a gay romance novel. 1.00

01:45:32.240 Even though I opened up to it, how far, how far in the book, how much of the book did you read before you realized?

01:45:38.360 The funny thing is, is I opened to a random page and they're literally, one of the characters is like, are you on prep?

01:45:44.880 What's prep?

01:45:45.580 And it's, it's the drug that you take to not get HIV.

01:45:48.700 If you are, you know, way too much about this book.

01:45:51.960 I read the book.

01:45:53.380 I am under attack.

01:45:56.720 I am being persecuted way too much about European history, too.

01:46:00.860 So it's like, Blake, you wanted to talk about this.

01:46:04.360 I try to bring you entertaining stories.

01:46:07.300 I try to bring you entertaining stories.

01:46:10.600 Somehow, Blake, you made my skin crawl more than the AI grandma video.

01:46:15.980 You guys, I am persecuted because I try to bring funny information to you.

01:46:20.860 And Blake is like, hey, how about those gay hockey novels?

01:46:24.980 How did we get from Sweden to like?

01:46:26.220 Yeah, but what about those gay hockey novels?

01:46:28.100 Because women's lit is out of control. 1.00

01:46:30.140 Okay, but here's the, here's the, here's the setup.

01:46:33.140 Here's the setup.

01:46:34.740 I told this to the team.

01:46:37.820 That Sydney Sweeney is going to absolutely let it, she's going to overcompensate because she knows everybody thinks she's right-coded and a conservative and MAGA and all this stuff.

01:46:48.900 She's going to overcompensate.

01:46:50.640 This is why we saw her naked on some sort of red carpet thing. 1.00

01:46:54.700 Naked?

01:46:54.760 She was, she had her, her, uh, you know.

01:46:58.520 Why'd you say it that way?

01:46:59.820 I don't know.

01:47:00.220 She was naked.

01:47:01.560 Yeah, there it is.

01:47:03.180 That's, that was, this is, this is the thing.

01:47:05.960 She's not naked? 0.98

01:47:06.380 Well, it was basically, it was.

01:47:08.180 Oh, it's blurred.

01:47:09.220 I see.

01:47:09.780 Oh, it's blurred.

01:47:10.280 No, so she, I can't see it from here.

01:47:12.720 She, she is going to let us down because she's going to say no one controls me.

01:47:17.180 And to Jack's point, I think she's, you know, empowered feminist. 1.00

01:47:21.040 She's not going to be controlled or defined by anybody.

01:47:23.700 Well, I, I do think that her career has been built around the blurred out section there.

01:47:28.500 So, I mean, a lot of her career has been focused in one part of her talented.

01:47:38.820 Skill set.

01:47:39.480 Yeah.

01:47:40.020 Yeah.

01:47:40.480 Well, anyway.

01:47:41.700 Her charm?

01:47:42.620 Her intellect?

01:47:43.640 I thought that she did a great job.

01:47:45.860 I thought she did a great job.

01:47:47.400 She knows what's self.

01:47:48.520 Not apologizing to that.

01:47:49.820 Wasn't it, it was a Cosmo or GQ or what, what, what, what, what was the?

01:47:53.460 I, I can't remember.

01:47:54.600 She held her out.

01:47:55.440 But she, she, she did a great job of not apologizing for the ad because the whole thing was blown

01:48:00.580 out of proportion, good genes, all this stuff.

01:48:02.720 Anyways, I, I, I, I guess I suppose I'm a fan-ish of Sidney Sweeney just because she's

01:48:10.240 something new and novel and unique.

01:48:13.340 But yeah, I, I think you're right, Jack.

01:48:15.580 It's, it's, we're going to, if you, if you're going to put any faith in Sidney Sweeney, be

01:48:18.820 prepared to be let down greatly.

01:48:23.460 And that's where it is, guys.

01:48:24.920 We're on our own.

01:48:25.140 No one here is let down by Sidney Sweeney.

01:48:27.780 Men, men need to rise up.

01:48:29.780 We, we need to stop.

01:48:31.120 We need to stop trusting these, these, these Hollywood starlets. 0.99

01:48:35.200 We need to stop trusting these New Jersey women like that one who apparently faked like 1.00

01:48:39.820 a, like a hate crime, a Trump hate crime or something.

01:48:42.960 Can't do it, boys.

01:48:44.000 It's all up to us.

01:48:45.840 She, she worked for Van Drew.

01:48:47.800 Yeah.

01:48:48.580 Yeah.

01:48:49.780 Yeah.

01:48:50.180 All the guys were sharing that picture in there, in the group chat today.

01:48:53.680 And they were like, they're like, I can fix her.

01:48:55.960 I can fix her.

01:48:59.280 All right.

01:49:00.200 Listen, Jack, you have an event tonight.

01:49:02.080 If you want to, if you want to preface it, then we'll take us home.

01:49:06.560 I'm not sure if it's live streamed or like it comes out the next day or how that works.

01:49:10.220 But I'm an event tonight up here, actually backstage at what is this place called?

01:49:16.180 The Diamond Heart Arena in Bakersfield, California with it is Megan Kelly, myself, Victor Davis

01:49:24.020 Hanson, Steve Hilton, and believe it or not, Charlie Dean.

01:49:28.420 Yes, that's right.

01:49:29.220 The Charlie Sheen is here.

01:49:31.260 Ricky Vaughn himself will be on stage as well as I.

01:49:35.080 And, you know, this was actually, this was supposed to be Charlie's stop on the tour

01:49:42.240 with, with Megan Kelly.

01:49:44.120 And obviously Charlie can't be here.

01:49:46.980 And, you know, she asked me to just come up and say a few words about him.

01:49:50.060 And I'm going to do that.

01:49:50.940 And I'm really looking forward, of course, to Erica when she goes and speaks to Megan

01:49:55.600 Kelly, I think in two nights time on, on Saturday night there in Phoenix.

01:50:00.320 Yep.

01:50:00.920 Glendale doing it.

01:50:02.460 The, the old coyotes arena there.

01:50:04.420 Desert, yeah, Desert Diamond Arena.

01:50:07.840 Speaking of hockey.

01:50:10.040 We got to have the coyotes come back, but not to Glendale.

01:50:12.460 We need them back to Scottsdale.

01:50:14.380 That'd be fantastic.

01:50:14.960 That'd be great.

01:50:16.060 Jack.

01:50:16.500 Great.

01:50:16.840 I'm going to take us home here, brother.

01:50:18.320 But this has been a very fun, illuminating, skin crawling discussion. 1.00

01:50:24.540 I've been surprised, enlightened, disappointed, disgusted, all of the things.

01:50:29.420 Hopefully you enjoyed it.

01:50:30.280 That's what she said.

01:50:31.080 Yeah.

01:50:31.780 All right.

01:50:32.420 Until next Thursday, keep committing thought crimes.

01:50:38.840 Thought crime is death.

01:50:40.660 Thought crime is death.

01:50:42.460 Yeah.

01:50:43.220 Think he's actually killed individuals.

01:50:45.700 Yes.

01:50:51.140 Yeah.

01:50:52.420 No.

01:50:52.440 I hope.

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01:50:57.160 No.

01:50:58.060 We.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 24, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 106 — Democrat Sedition？ Mankeeping？ Epstein Files At Last？

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