THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 115 — Immortal AI Actors？ Relooted Artifacts？ Kill the Christians？
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Summary
On this week's episode of Thought Crime Thursday, the guys discuss the All-American halftime show, the incredible outpouring of support for Kid Rock's rendition of the hit song Rock With The Ball, and whether or not it should have been called Kid Rock .
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's edition of Thought Crime.
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thursday here we are we're back hugely successful all-american halftime show tp usa
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number one u.s live stream of all time number two worldwide live stream on youtube of all time and
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it's it's you have to just be humbled by god's grace you have to go with jesus you lead you have
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have to you have to follow the lead i should say of our lord and it's it's it's amazing it's been
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incredible to see we talked about it last week and obviously we're going to get into it this week now
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you know kind of the aftermath the uh the incredible outpouring of support this thing
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broke containment absolutely broke containment and i believe we have uh blake and mikey here
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today what's up guys how we doing we're doing lovely Tyler's supposed to be here but he's
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doing that thing where he like flies in late he'll probably have some just kind of t-shirt
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so Mike you were you weren't here last week so I want to I want to get your take on this you know
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why was it that the all-american halftime show went as big as it did I think part of it was
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that families could confidently have their children sit in the living room and watch
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something knowing confidently that booty cheeks or debauchery wouldn't be on the screen and that
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they wouldn't have to say kids go in the other room this is not good close your eyes plug your
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ears and it was a breath of fresh air one it was just exciting it celebrated america
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but also it uplifted values and it uplifted christ and it uplifted the fact that a lot of
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people have that bible that's on the shelf that needs a little bit of dusting off um but jack i
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thought you did a great job introing it um the artist did amazing it was just overall such a
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massive success i just remember watching it and i was like oh man i just wish that we add this one
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thing and then you know one minute later it happens you're like this is so great but how
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about when kid rock jumps out from the stage that intro was one of the greatest so as cool as that
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was by the way and i saw you tweeting up a storm about that when we were when we were there um on
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the set and i heard that he had like the jump spring for that like the trap door i was like so
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um so so can i test that like you know i gotta gotta make sure that it's uh perfectly safe for
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mr rock so if you guys if you guys need someone to test maybe uh and they're like me like they're
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like no jack you cannot i was like well i was like we already said i couldn't play with the
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fireball so you know come on guys they really should have do they always call him mr rock
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like that like mr kid has he has he legally change his name usually usually um usually you hear bob
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or like mr richie okay all right it'd be funny if he got you know like an honorary doctorate and
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they're like dr rock dr rock dr rock that'll be his next iteration but blake i know such a great
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it's funny you mentioned that real quick that tanya said that my wife tanya said the same thing
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that um she said for the first time here we are watching this real halftime show and i don't have
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to have like my my thumb over hovering over the remote you know having to click off because
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something is there that we don't want to see and she was like it was like good clean fun and actually
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funny enough she didn't actually like ask me for many you know spoilers in terms of any of that
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stuff i think she just kind of trusted if it's tp usa like it's going to be good to go that's so
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great that's so great so i know i've heard so much feedback from different people with that
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exact same thing they just knew that it was tpsa so they knew it would be fine for their kids
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um which i just think is so cool but blake do you have like a kid rock impersonation with when he
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you're in your rock voice no i don't i can't i'm not about your saxon my saxon voice i mean if i
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want to be this lake's rock if i want to be like a british chav rock star like what would it sound
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like if if if uh sebastian bach was was singing ball with the ball yeah can you please you're
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really you're imposing a lot of a lot of when he does my name intensity the problem is i don't
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the problem among other things is i don't know the word the words to bau with the ball oh dude
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that was so literally i had never heard of bau with the ball until my name is kid rock yeah i
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had never heard of bau with the ball until this halftime show came upon us yeah yeah that is my
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level of detached lived on planet earth come on like in the last couple decades no it's literally
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look i am music wise as far as i'm concerned music ended in the year 1991 in that one week
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gap between when guns and roses use your illusion came out and then never mind by nirvana now for
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that okay there was kind of no more music i grew up thinking i just didn't like music
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the true story i just didn't like music because i didn't like anything that was on the radio i
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didn't like any of these rap people i didn't like this new metal i didn't like this hip-hop and
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it's like all that was or this alt rock yeah never mind ghastly things like radiohead i was a very
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bad white person and then i as i aged into you know middle school i discovered wait there were
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these musical albums and songs that were released prior to my birth and they are the the true music
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of my people the midwestern white guy and so i listened to my midwestern white guy music
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and occasionally my imported british heavy metal music and you know we have our alternative
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half times and i'm very happy we put it on and a lot of people liked it but as i've repeatedly
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said it's it's a bunch of acts that i've never crossed my playlist in my life uh same here
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that didn't stop me from loving it but then but then okay so that being said what is your sense
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and just put up the incredible numbers that it did?
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you have four months to learn to speak spanish or else and then i'm gonna and then the actual
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show starts and i don't know if you guys have seen it it's some it's something that would be
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inflicted on gitmo detainees i'm sure where it's this baffling thing he just kind of babbles in
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spanish you don't know what he's doing and apparently it was really terrible if you were
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a fan at the stadium they got so addicted to the the cinema of it being on air so if you were in
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the lower bowl of levi's stadium everyone just didn't know what was going on and yep it's amazing
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too to see this aspect of it where the people who are trying to get positive reviews and it's stuff
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like in that skit they're doing someone is like asleep on two chairs and someone's like oh someone
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asleep on two chairs bad bunny totally gets the hispanic experience which is this very real thing
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everyone's going viral this was going viral yeah exactly exactly like one of course so this is so
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latino this is latino culture and it's like okay latino culture we have this we have this tradition
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we call it dinner and you eat with other people in your family because in our culture every day
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food is important my favorite is jack we're texting about this is like
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like the actual the the translation of his song is there's this guy his video went viral
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wait do we have the english one do we have the guy oh my gosh do we have it literally tanya tay
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was has been playing that like 10 times a day since that came out we've done we we have to
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pull it now we've done a horrible job of show prep as usual but it's like when you actually
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hear it in yeah english it's like that's what he said like it wasn't even that because like
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there's good spanish music out there right like j-lo performed before and like shakira okay hold
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on hold on there's good spanish music and it's yeah you know yeah it's great it's great
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imagine if they played this at the superbowl that's kind of what they used to running through
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have you ever seen what they used to have you ever seen what they used to uh what they used to do at
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the superbowl like i think literally the first superbowl halftime show was a straight up marching
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band just doing like that was what they had at the packers chiefs first one was acceptable yeah
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i think it's literally like my auntie asked me how many girlfriends i had and it's like i can't
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let me see if i yeah muchas novias many girlfriends so he just keeps singing about
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how many girlfriends he has as god yeah it's like i have a girlfriend one week and then i have a
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different one the next week and we have these brainless guy and you have a girlfriend like you
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know the never trump the never trump like cuck con congress like those guys they're doing these
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comments and they're trying to say among other things this is a very like pro this is like a
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traditional values pro-family halftime show and they just don't know the lyrics to the songs at
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all because no one does and no but i'm but i'm like i'm making a criticism of it from from a
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musical perspective right like not even beyond the lyrics beyond the obvious like open borders
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globalism display all of like the ridiculous like oh we sleep on chairs sometimes at weddings when
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we're kids like you you mean like literally all kids um would do but no it's it's like it's not
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catchy there's no hooks there's no chorus like i'm not gonna sit here and say that like i listen
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to shakira but like people could probably name a couple shakira songs they could probably hung
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hum a chorus you know mikey of course you know is actually a big mike people don't know this
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about mikey mccoy he has a giant shakira tattoo all the way across his back um that he received
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in tijuana you know we can't show it on air because again family show but um you know it's
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something that he's really proud of wait oh shakira did the waka waka song for the south africa world
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cup yeah yeah yeah i i know that song it is a song i've listened to i think it's kind of funny
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that they got shakira to make their like crypto african but everybody at least knows who shakira
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is you know i didn't know that she was the waka waka singer until now here's here's the thing i
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brought this up on pierce morgan this week because we got into it and he was all he was doing this
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whole like well you guys just did that because he's hispanic and blah blah blah and i was like
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and i was like uh actually no people got mad at him because he was disrespecting the american
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people because he politicized things and i can prove this and he's like okay prove it i said
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all right is this i was like okay is this the first time that bad bunny has performed at a
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super bowl and everyone on the panel was like uh i said no it's not the first time it's the second
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time he's performed at the super bowl everybody forgets that when shakira performed back in 2020
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the guy who got up on stage to rap with her during the one spanish song was actually bad bunny and
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you know what there was no like backlash there was no controversy about it because he just stuck to
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music and nobody really cared but obviously that was before this big push to politicize him and
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politicize everything and before he was being disrespectful to americans and so he didn't get
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the headlines he's an attention seeker that's what all of this was about so no it wasn't about
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his music or his language you know i mean a little bit about the language but that's different
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it was because of the disrespect but again like ricky martin sang in spanish and nobody cared
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because ricky martin's actually a good singer so yeah i don't know any ricky martin songs by the
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way zuzu's pedals donated two dollars and says they should have chosen tito puente for decent
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latino music i don't know who that is no idea what that is maybe it's amazing what are you
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talking about he did the song when uh when mr burns died i don't know who tt puente is i don't
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know any of these jack i had a similar scenario happen where people were like why are you guys
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doing this i was like look i could make an argument that it's he's anti-american you know
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he he wants a bunch of foreigners in our country yada yada yada you know dresses up like a
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transvestite in his music videos and anti-president trump all these things but ultimately and i said
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this there was like 20 people there i said ultimately let me ask you guys a question
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open-ended to everybody in this room can you name me one bad bunny song just one that's your favorite
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and if you can can you also name just one portion of the lyrics that you can sing and not a single
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person in the room who is arguing against me could do that i said so maybe i can sing it i i can do
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hey hey hey hey okay okay okay but look that's the whole maybe we just did it because that's
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how people hear the song yeah maybe people don't know who he is and they they're pretending they
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do a bunch of people i'm like i it's just funny because i feel like you know people are like oh
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like obviously i was like you know introing the halftime show for tpsa and then like had the
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tweets about it last year but i was like i was like i feel like i actually know more about bad
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bunny than like the average person in this too because yeah i would be pointing out that the
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reason i knew about him before it wasn't the shakira thing i had no idea i had to look that up
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but then i had i i um i knew that he was they inserted him as this the caddy like the sidekick
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character with this huge subplot in happy gilmore 2 and so when they did that i was like who's this
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random like spanish character that they're adding like why is he there instead of you know like the
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actual uh cast of happy gilmore 1 and they're giving him all the screen time and like why is
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netflix doing this and then i found out it was bad bunny it's like oh so that's you know another
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another corporate edition we're just trying to just like jam him you know into the whole thing
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it was so ridiculous i think we have that clip yeah i think is it is it loaded guys is it it is
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not loaded we're all dying to see this i really want to see this because i actually saw it but
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i didn't listen to it i just kind of i'm i'm kidding you i'm not even joking that tanya tay
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has played this over and over she thinks it's the funniest thing that she's ever heard
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we'll be sitting because she was playing it and i was like oh yeah that's really funny she was like
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no but you have to listen to it i'm like no i actually heard it this morning no but you have
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listen to it now and then and then i walked away and i was like doing something in the other room
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and i just hear i just hear coming from her it's like she's just playing it over and over
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it's loaded racking up all right we've got it we've got it all right yeah play 520
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the english version hey so my ntsb why got so many girlfriends hey a lot of girlfriends today
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I got one and tomorrow got another one, but I never marry you.
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My auntie asked me why I got so many girlfriends.
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Today I got one and tomorrow got another one.
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Man, I think I want to take them all to the VIP, to the VIP.
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Ay, well, they can be my auntie and we're going to take a selfie and say cheese.
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They smile if they've already been with me in the VIP, in the VIP.
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Ay, well, they can be my auntie and we're going to take a selfie and say cheese.
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this is just so low quality music like any tiktoker who makes music could make something
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just like that like how is this any different from like a soundcloud mumble rapper that's
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exactly what it is it literally is i like to like one of the one of the tweets i saw during the
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super bowl was if i was running for president of a latin country my platform would be to bring
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latin music a second drum beat dang dang and you know i thought that was just a funny joke and then
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i looked it up latin drum beat and there's literally a wikipedia article for the drum beat
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that they use in like all latin american music it's called the trecillo and it's this sound
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thing like kind of a kick kick snare kind of nice that's all bad bunny i mean it's kind of true i
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gotta say it's it's just it's just legit i'm just gonna you want real thought wow look at this
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incredible comment when jack introduced the all-american halftime show he looks so good
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peak american and masculinity thank you mk brand 28 wow i completely agree wow that's crazy i didn't
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know jack had a second account on rumble no i'm not even signed in i was literally just signing
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into the chat and then they're also saying wakanda is iconic and also that shakira got in trouble for
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tax evasion no pardon shapira shakira pardon shakira pardon shakira pardon her pardon shakira
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she can still get imprisoned for invading US taxes
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I think I would have to go with the death penalty for Shakira
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President Trump should pardon her for a Spanish crime.
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So is she not allowed to step foot in Spain or she's arrested?
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Well, they just legalized all the, what, 500,000 illegal aliens in Spain.
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So, you know, I guess you can just commit whatever crime you want.
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Guys, they got us another excellent clip of the halftime show.
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This is every time Bad Bunny says, eh, in the halftime show.
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That was 51 ois over the course of that 20-minute show.
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That's actually impressive because I think he was only on stage
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So 51 divided by 14, that's almost four ois a minute.
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Because they had to bring the whole set into the stadium during the half.
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So for every Super Bowl halftime, you have to set up
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So you can't set up during the game because the game is being played.
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so that setup and breakdown time goes into how long your performance is where obviously we didn't
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have that issue because we were not in the middle of a football game and so I think ours was probably
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twice as long as theirs give or take or maybe a little bit I think they were like 14 minutes and
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we were like 22 minutes so not quite twice as long but but getting there and you know I you know
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next year I mean gosh the the sky is the limit for next year I've had people pitching like you
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know you guys could do an hour you guys could do an entire day and like the finale is the halftime
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show i mean it's it's it's it's kind of crazy yeah but you know the the because you have to
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understand we had like we had three months but it wasn't even really three months because we had
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amfest in the middle and then we had christmas and new years and so it was really more like two
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months you know of time other than just reaching out to venues casting that wide net and look we
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we talked about this a little bit when I was on with Andrew, you know,
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but we had a lot of pressure against us from, you know,
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elements of the industry elements of, you know, different, different,
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I think probably money and sponsors that were, you know,
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if we support someone or work with someone who's going to be going up against
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the NFL, then that's like putting a black mark on us.
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So that's why, for me, I just, I'm so grateful to all the musicians that came out and took the chance and, you know, Kid Rock as well for, you know, bringing his incredible star power, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, Gabby Barrett, who's, you know, I think really become the breakout star of all this, fellow Pennsylvanian like myself, by the way.
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and uh oh by the way that one of the controversies that and blake i'm sure you've seen this and as
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well as the number of like there's like the ratings controversy but the the lip sync controversy have
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you guys seen that they're accusing him of lip syncing yeah i saw that not true not true guys
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i'm telling you i was right there he's and i have footage from the set and i guess we have like
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master footage too that we could probably um you know see if they really wanted us to like go to
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that level which is crazy he's not lip syncing it was it was a sync issue on the stream it was
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literally we had so many people watching that it just it was like you know just a glitch on the
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stream where everything was out of sync the video and audio which is and also it's like at least he
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can still and as a result it means he can still perform unlike uh have you ever heard bad bunny
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when his uh auto tune adjuster went out and he just is that true i saw that one going around but
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i didn't know if that was that was a real incident that was grok said it was real and i've gotten
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lazy to the point have i fallen victim to another fake i mean maybe it's fake but i choose to
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believe it anyway that should be a thought crime topic you want my thought crime all this has
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taught me i'm ready for i'm ready for my thought crime like there are not even not even just like
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sweden itself but like there are probably i would say specific provinces of sweden that have produced
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more good music than all of latin america and and specific probably specific parts probably
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specific cities let's say specific cities in the uk like liverpool has produced more great music
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for humanity than every single city from tijuana to tierra del fuego can you name people are saying
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we need the all-american pre-game show for 2027 as well as the all-american halftime show
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we might even have to have like an all all-american festival or something i don't know
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the all-american music festival i like this this is a good you guys have some good ideas
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that was uh no we were i was actually on with tim pool last night on his show and he was saying
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guys you could do it like with numbers like that you could put on an entire day long festival and
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here is here is his idea which was really good because one of the issues that we would have then
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if we were doing um the live festival that way is we would also have that same issue of setup and
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breakdown between bands but his idea was two stages right you do two stages one you know one
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like stage a stage b yeah and then you know stage a has a band they play whatever blah blah then they
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go to break down and a band kicks off on stage b so throughout the day you could have it switching
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back and forth and then there's no it's you know it's just seamless i like this i like this idea
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so let's get if you guys are in the chat especially super chat you know who who would
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you like to see um one thing though you know ask us who'd you like to see it for next year but at
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the same time and email 1776 at human events.com or freedom charlie kirk.com about who you'd like
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to see but i will say though that this was definitely a crash course i think for and a
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learning curve for a lot of us that it's it's not even up to the artist sometimes regarding songs
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regarding um the rights regarding like things they can do people they can play with there's so
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many contracts there's so many labels there's so many just different like layers of complexity to
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whether or not you can perform one of these things like we we lost the x live stream just a couple of
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hours before we went live and you know i think though in a sense that that was actually kind of
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maybe a godsend like that was actually maybe part of god's plan because when we tweeted out that we
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lost x that drove more people to youtube and rumble and perhaps we wouldn't have hit the record
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if that hadn't happened you never know right do we have tyler do we yeah we have tyler tyler has
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has shown up we were discussing i i gave my guys we're still talking the halftime show
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and we were talking we we here's the highlight so far uh bad bunny about he averages about four
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a minute during his super bowl show uh i'm not trying to be like charlie kirk here because
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charlie would totally do this he'd be like what is this like yeah what is it he would have leaned
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like way i legitimately went back and was watching it and i was like this is a very bad performance
00:26:28.480
i don't know it's it's no question why people in the stands weren't moving at all and i know
00:26:33.700
we have to be careful you know exactly how we talk about this but like any any that in this
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it reminded me a few years ago i was watching it because like old school halftime shows were like
00:26:47.340
it was like janet jackson someone big like middle of the stage like everybody's into it everything
00:26:53.060
gets dark i just was watching this whole thing it was like it was like bright lights you know
00:26:59.520
because it was the sun hadn't gone down and it was just weird and awkward and like nobody was
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feeling it nope and they just have to be honest about it you know it's like no one was feeling it
00:27:09.700
nobody was feeling and that's what i was nervous about was our all-american halftime show when we
00:27:14.820
flipped over i was worried that it would look like less um like less production quality than like a
00:27:22.160
like a multi like tens of millions of dollars that they spend on on you know normal halftime
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stuff yeah and it's like no ours actually looked way better yes ours looked more like a real
00:27:32.560
halftime show big time like so i that's what everybody was saying was like everybody like
00:27:37.520
felt it felt normal yes it wasn't just that it felt american it felt normal like what it's
00:27:44.080
supposed to be yeah we actually have some b-roll of this can we play clip uh 280 guys i think this
00:27:51.240
back up what tyler's saying so this is uh amanda van amanda vance and she's um watching our
00:28:01.800
halftime show while at the actual halftime show at the actual super and she's moving more than
00:28:07.880
everybody else around and look at all the people around her look at and there's so many videos
00:28:12.840
like this where it's going viral that people were just standing around totally disconnected
00:28:18.360
and like you can't even really see the show either like it's tyler so this speaks to what
00:28:24.900
you're saying that the people in the stands couldn't even tell what was going on down there
00:28:29.080
because it just looks like this weird thicket of grasses it looked like no it's like when the
00:28:33.780
velociraptors come out during jurassic park and you just see like the grass moving like i don't
00:28:38.600
know like that's that's it and i i have a piece of me that's like i i kind of appreciate a little
00:28:43.540
hood rap music every once in a while like i've like i've you know again i've been around for
00:28:48.260
i have friends that like that's like their music preference of choice it's not my black friends
00:28:53.620
but like yeah i've had a cool i've i've had a few you know uh friends and so like like i can
00:29:02.040
appreciate when music's good right like and it's a little bit too this legitimately was not good
00:29:18.140
Tyler's saying, I enjoy a little hood rap music
00:29:21.360
every once in a while, it reminds me of the post
00:29:24.320
with you and James O'Keefe, you're like, God forbid
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God forbid a couple of white boys get a little
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yeah exactly great time and there was a singer nacho from venezuela he was phenomenal and he
00:29:46.160
was playing live and he's got like you know millions and millions of fans around the world
00:29:50.880
and it's like this is music that has a beat it's catchy it's got a hook to it it's got a chorus
00:29:58.140
he's like an actually talented singer he's not a mumble rapper i mean i just don't understand
00:30:03.660
where people get around they're saying mumbling is something that you want when it comes to
00:30:08.500
music um where where's what this was and and yeah tyler like i guess the issue now is that they
00:30:15.460
they make these halftime shows they did this last year as well where they make it for the tv audience
00:30:21.180
only and they don't care about the audience that's actually there so the people in the stands are like
00:30:26.820
yeah it's it's dumb because it's not the spectacle that you would expect it's more like
00:30:33.180
a tv show or like a music video kind of shoot it's just not the big super bowl halftime spectacle
00:30:40.600
that i think people are used to you know like a stage dancers fireworks i'm very i'm upset and i
00:30:46.980
could be totally wrong about this i could be misremembering but this is how i felt i felt
00:30:50.820
like the like the halftime show that was during the big game was always geared towards my parents
00:30:58.260
yeah when i was growing up like you're right it was always geared towards my parents and now i'm
00:31:02.700
a parent and it's not geared towards me it's geared towards international international like
00:31:08.060
uh yeah globalism yeah and non-american globalist like non-american truly and again i again
00:31:15.820
puerto rico puerto rican he doesn't seem to think so yeah here's a thought he wasn't puerto rico
00:31:21.720
was america why did they have their flag next to the american flag at that show here's the point
00:31:26.460
puerto rico is not a state so it's not america so that's just number one number two is that
00:31:31.280
the the words in his songs are talking about women from lots of different countries
00:31:36.780
he was yeah he's using he's appropriating his sub-american culture as puerto rican
00:31:43.420
to try to hook up with all these other south american and central american women
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00:31:48.740
it's in the words it's right there in the words he's he's a colonization hooker upper
1.00
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that's right he's calling guys putter here to hear the translation i think i think we might
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have to go and play the translation for tyler again just so that he knows what what he's
00:32:06.060
actually commenting on i think i think we have to hit it again it's high quality music all right
00:32:11.200
play it again the english version hey so my ntsb why i got so many girlfriends hey a lot of
00:32:19.520
I can get on board if this guy would have performed in English.
00:32:32.020
I actually think people would have been moving.
00:32:39.520
Our alternate halftime show should have been this guy.
00:32:47.520
We have an all-American halftime show and then we have an Americanized version of their
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And next year, if they get some really awful, like one of those rappers who just raps about
00:33:03.340
all the felonies he does, we do a version that's like same beat, but he's rapping about
00:33:15.300
yeah i go on the freeway and clean up trash yeah i drive a toyota avalon it's a responsible
00:33:22.300
middle class car i get my oil change every 3 000 miles coffee and donuts at the library
1.00
00:33:33.440
so good yeah i got five kids all with my wife
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but that's that that's the old chris rock bit where he's like yeah he's like i ain't never been
00:33:47.180
to prison to prison to prison he's like you're not supposed to go to prison because i take care
00:33:53.320
of my kids you're not you're supposed to take care of your kids like why do you want credit
00:33:57.500
for stuff you're supposed to do it's back when chris rock was actually oh we got another we got
00:34:01.560
another dono from zuzu's pedals five this time thank you very much zuzu let's go remember when
00:34:06.120
whitney houston sang the national anthem at the super bowl back when it was patriotic no i don't
00:34:11.080
because i believe i was zero years old when that happened but it is a great video it's a great
00:34:17.000
uh national anthem and yes that is that's actually like iconic it's iconic it's about
00:34:22.620
when i feel the super bowl probably be okay but guys charlie pooth did okay he did he did good
00:34:28.320
he did a great job again nobody this is the sad part nobody's talking about that nobody's talking
00:34:33.680
nobody's talking about that he did he crushed the national anthem he did yeah yeah he did like
00:34:38.840
that's where america should be centering on right it's like okay maybe a guy probably not
00:34:44.200
yeah a conservative not you know whatever right but crushes the national anthem wait you weren't
00:34:50.600
you weren't alive in 1991 hell yeah oh i was alive i was zero years old oh you were zero yeah i was
00:34:56.460
negative negative years yeah i was definitely alive jack and i were you even born when like
00:35:03.940
9-11 happened no oh my gosh i will never see anyone a few weeks after i will never see anyone
00:35:10.780
born after 9-11 as an adult like even when i'm 70 and there are like 60 year old post 9-11 they
00:35:17.140
will still be children to me yeah my friend growing up just summarily reject it my friend
00:35:22.380
growing up was born on 9-11 oh wow oh my so you're saying there's a connection
00:35:26.800
yeah you're really suspicious there's thousands of days he could have been born on and he was
00:35:35.080
born on that day huh really weird yeah it's weird i don't like it huh i've never heard a story of
00:35:41.240
somebody that was supposed to uh go to work that day though there that really birth i've never
00:35:47.540
heard that story yeah i've heard a lot of stories people that didn't go to work but
00:35:51.080
give me birthday day that's weird uh all right they didn't happen to give birth in like ward
00:35:57.420
seven of that hospital did they oh gosh no the the weirdest 9-11 story i know um not weirdest
00:36:04.480
but just like i think most in a sense unique is um i knew a guy who was in a motorcycle accident
00:36:11.460
like the day before on 9 10 um 2011 or excuse me 2001 and i'm thinking 11 and so he was in
00:36:21.460
like a medical coma on 9 11 and then he wakes up on 9 12 and is like hey so did i miss anything
00:36:31.180
and everyone's like uh and they had to go to him and tell him and like he didn't believe anyone
00:36:38.180
obviously and then they show him the footage and he was like there's no way dude but it was so
00:36:44.200
weird because like he didn't have that emotional response to it because everyone else had gone
00:36:48.820
through the trauma of that day and you know not knowing whether or not um you know something else
00:36:54.100
like people everybody thought there was going to be more attacks right everybody thought there's
00:36:57.900
more going on whereas he's just walking around seeing flags everywhere like sort of confused
00:37:03.480
about how that happened it's kind of wild very very like 28 days later like the whole world
00:37:08.240
changes and you wake up all right what's our uh what's our next topic all righty well we have a
00:37:14.500
few options we could talk i really like i wanted to get tyler's take on next year no no no i think
00:37:23.280
tyler's getting exhausted and we have to make sure we hit it do you want to talk more about
00:37:26.280
i already said what we went next year next year we go twice as three times four times harder
00:37:31.080
way way more uh way more awareness i think you get a much bigger audience i think it continues
00:37:39.320
to grow like there's nothing here that says you should slow down no everything everything here
00:37:45.560
says pedals of the metal make it bigger make it better the logo is great the branding was great
00:37:50.820
everything worked everything was great everything everything was great like you have to do this
00:37:55.020
bigger and better and you have to scare everybody and then because if you do it in enough advance
00:38:00.780
now now i mean again like advertisers and things like that are really going to be
00:38:07.020
you know twisting the screws here so yeah i'll just say tyler i don't know if you caught i know
00:38:13.460
we we chatted a little bit but if you go back and watch when i did tim cast last night i mean he was
00:38:17.960
just couldn't be more praiseworthy and he was like just all in just all in and i've heard from a lot
00:38:24.580
of people you know who are you know other hosts of shows and different things where people are
00:38:30.720
people are just honestly shocked just absolutely shocked that it was record-breaking uh viewing
00:38:36.900
where can i can i can i speed and the production quality can i uh pump up turning point usa too
00:38:42.720
again i'm on the turning point action side please do turning point usa this was a turning point usa
00:38:46.760
event i got a lot of credit for doing nothing other than just helping organize years worth
00:38:53.520
turning point but i did nothing with this this was our entire team at turning point usa uh the
00:38:59.100
the entire team at turning point usa lauren tonsish's team the events marina we just had the
00:39:04.500
baby days before uh and the entire media which i guess we're talking about publicly now did she
00:39:10.640
is it true that she named her baby all-american halftime show minas kid rock it was kid rock yeah
00:39:26.820
And she was like, yeah, you get a problem with that.
00:39:31.040
The full name was Kid Rock All-American Halftime Show.
00:39:44.380
But here's the point I was getting around to making.
00:39:46.620
turning point usa could have probably raised and charged millions and millions of dollars to do a
00:39:55.160
bunch of ads sponsorships all that stuff and intentionally did not do that this was a this was
00:40:01.960
a uh did not make any kind of revenue did not turn this into a revenue thing when it was very clear
00:40:08.620
that this could be easily be a revenue thing because that wasn't what the purpose was the
00:40:12.820
purpose of this was to live up to the expectations things that charlie jack you had you had verbalized
00:40:18.540
this very well things that charlie had said that really bothered him that he would want to see done
00:40:23.200
and make it really cleanly just about that just about giving america's alternative in the first
00:40:28.740
place that's what i was thinking of like i just had so i applaud it's like i could hear charlie
00:40:33.400
in my head just going off just the way he had all the years prior and i you know we had joked about
00:40:41.700
maybe doing something like this and i just i just kind of typed it up and tweet went the way it went
00:40:48.160
and then we talked about it on the show and that that went pretty on on this show right here on
00:40:52.620
thought crime and that went that's super viral too and yeah but but here's the point is that
00:40:57.220
people looked at this and went like you guys would be crazy not to monetize this or do things or raise
00:41:01.920
money for turning point that that would go back to the the 501c3 to help operations do all that
00:41:07.520
but this was so much bigger than that yeah and culturally and so for anybody that's like looks
00:41:13.180
at this and goes oh you know turning points trying to just raise money all the time it's like no
00:41:17.640
guys like the biggest things that we there was no lower third with the qr code and all that there
00:41:23.380
was not this was cleanly just give americans an alternative and prove a point and they did that
00:41:29.860
uh the entire team did that i thought that was really classy i thought that was really important
00:41:35.040
that nobody felt like they were being uh nobody looked at this as like oh well this is just
00:41:42.000
another play and i saw a few people that no hard sales a lot of haters that were like
00:41:46.900
these people that are like oh well yeah i didn't follow that buddy but i don't watch that either
00:41:52.320
because although tyler you did have an idea and perhaps we should still do it um of doing like
00:41:58.520
maybe like a t-shirt or something like like like make it like a concert shirt that people could
00:42:04.060
get a tp usa shirt where it's got like the you know the bands the axe on the front and then on
00:42:10.160
the back it's got like that you know like it's like a classic t-shirt like a list of of everyone
00:42:14.640
who performed and you could have like i you know the all-american halftime show and then put the
00:42:19.660
year and then every year we could do a new shirt yeah my i i still think we need a shirt that says
00:42:25.640
i switched the channel on whatever last sunday was put that on the back i switched the channel
00:42:31.180
or whatever yeah no boomers would love that boomers would definitely boomers would love a
00:42:36.280
shirt they would wear a t-shirt to home depot that was like i switched the channel and then like
00:42:42.100
like walking around you know with like when you guys tyler don't you mean like a true man a true
00:42:47.440
man doesn't get a car so you have like light bulbs in one arm you're gonna drop them and like you're
00:42:52.640
getting like packs of screws and another hand and you got like a two random two by four you're like
00:42:57.280
trying to keep your pants up and you're walking around home i don't think our guys have trouble
00:43:01.720
with their pants fitting no i know no you watch home depot there's no man gets ready and goes to
00:43:07.320
home depot and remembers to put on a belt watch just watch i i do the same i know because i'm a
00:43:11.500
dad this is what happens and you're like walking around you got your arms full and then guys are
00:43:16.780
just high-fiving each other because like i love your shirt everything go wear a turning point
00:43:51.340
But because, by the way, and this is something that, OK, I do have like so there were there's this argument that keeps getting made about like the ratings and all the rest.
00:44:00.160
And everyone's always like, oh, well, you guys didn't beat the Super Bowl.
00:44:02.780
Like we never said we were going to beat the Super Bowl.
00:44:04.400
We said we were going to do something that would that would rival, that would take a chunk away, et cetera, which we did, obviously.
00:44:10.880
But then when you look at all of those sort of ephemeral cases of, OK, well, what are other data points we can look at to see what the impact was?
00:44:21.220
And again, it's Kid Rock on the top of the U.S. charts.
00:44:24.560
Gabby Barrett was right there, like number four, number five, a couple of songs up because she was such a breakout star in terms of this.
00:44:31.240
By the way, 25 years old, married at 19, three kids already.
00:44:38.380
You know, that is the Charlie Kirk motto, get married, have kids, be successful.
00:44:45.700
Great person to work with, like super down to earth.
00:44:48.600
Like, like literally one of the nicest people I've ever met.
00:44:51.200
Not like the diva that, you know, people seem to think that like all musician, you know, musical acts are going to be.
00:44:58.500
And, but then the way the Nielsen ratings get computed, that's like, I feel like, Tyler, I kind of feel like they're, you know,
00:45:06.940
they're doing this apples to oranges thing because our streaming numbers are based off of
00:45:13.360
devices so the number of tvs the number of screens the number of um the number of of accounts whatever
00:45:21.140
but nielsen they don't do households they do the household number and then they multiply it by three
00:45:27.060
right did you guys know this no i didn't know yeah yeah it's it's i've seen everything from
00:45:32.680
2.4 to 3.4 yeah right so like rightfully said like i think that's true though because you know most
00:45:38.640
people don't watch the super bowl alone you're probably going to be in a room with like a number
00:45:42.080
of people so you average that out and you say like okay we'll take some multiple and call it okay it's
00:45:47.540
three so if you had 50 million households they'll say it was 150 million right just to use that
00:45:52.120
but they don't do that to our numbers right for our numbers it's it's only what goes by device
00:45:57.820
so they'll say oh well you had 25 million like well if we used your metric then wouldn't it be
00:46:02.720
75 million right or if we had 30 million would it be 90 million because they we don't do that
00:46:08.620
with our numbers and like that's and i just don't think that's true i mean here's the reality when
00:46:13.160
i watched it i was in a room with like 30 people here's the reality the numbers are much bigger
00:46:18.700
than what people were trying to report it as right because when you actually start calculating the
00:46:25.880
number of views with that metric because i have friends that are in the marketing world that have
00:46:32.000
put on these these types of events that have done ads on the big game days yeah and uh he told me
00:46:40.300
specifically because he's he's funded these entire big ads that the conservative estimates a 2.4
00:46:47.040
multiplier views um realistically it's probably closer to like three to four person so i mean
00:46:55.240
we're talking i mean we're talking if that's the case we're talking that there's a real possibility
00:47:00.780
that um this production took like literally half the viewership we i mean it totally broke
00:47:10.440
containment it's crazy it really did and that's that's how you know god was involved that's how
00:47:15.260
you know it's it's god because it's not us this was being brought up the biggest events outside
00:47:20.520
of the big game like the biggest events like they're on tv like yeah dancing with the stars
00:47:25.600
and american idol and all those things those things get like five six seven million views
00:47:31.020
like we're talking like this was probably like five to eight times bigger than that
00:47:38.620
as a brand as an outside organization with no capitalization from the major media
00:47:44.120
networks like that's insane guys like it just doesn't happen so anyways we could talk about
00:47:49.380
it for hours by the way yeah like like like there were no like quickly yeah we had with the same
00:47:56.000
with the same team that we used to do the events it wasn't like some we had some like extra director
00:48:01.240
coming in or like anything like that like literally the same team i've i saw people somebody
00:48:07.180
called me i won't say who it was but they're an important person and they're like after watching
00:48:12.060
what the turning point team was able to do with charlie's memorial which was like you you have to
00:48:18.520
believe that that was god's hand just making that you know successful because it was so huge and so
00:48:24.240
many people and it was so hard to do so quickly and everybody was so emotional during that time
00:48:29.080
but like watching everybody pull together and do this thing then too people are like wow this is
00:48:35.780
actually like a very scary unit here that we're up against yeah and what scares when people even
00:48:42.060
more is when they start realizing the funny part is it's like i can understand now why there's
00:48:47.380
conspiracy theories that think that we have all the support from like places that we don't because
00:48:54.000
it almost is it doesn't make sense how capable this team is does that make sense like so i
00:49:00.880
actually have a soft spot people were saying that we it was botted and i'm like okay if that's botted
00:49:05.700
traffic then you guys do it right you guys you guys just go buy a bunch of bots and run a live
00:49:11.040
stream and see if you get you know number one u.s live stream of all time go right ahead the the most
00:49:15.840
powerful company in this world is getting botted yeah i can promise you something i can promise
00:49:22.480
you the most powerful company in this world is not thrilled about turning point usa having the
00:49:28.880
number one streamed event ever in american history i just i'm gonna promise you they they did not see
00:49:34.440
that coming yeah it was this and that's the whole funny part of this whole thing this is a sneak
00:49:38.160
attack this whole thing if they would have had more time they would have figured out how to stop
00:49:43.040
us i'm i'm telling you this is a company just five years ago that was kicking all of us off
00:49:48.360
the internet coming they didn't see it coming at all this entire this company was kicking us
00:49:51.960
off the internet and demonetizing every single one of us yep and like by name sending lobbyists
00:49:57.900
into washington dc to to work with their tech friends to debank us i mean i'm telling you
00:50:03.580
this is literally these are not anyone's friends here at turning point usa
00:50:07.940
no and and kudos and by the way shout out of course to the rumble team as well for just just
00:50:14.720
being there being so supportive uh chris pavlovsky he and i were chatting like right before it went
00:50:20.200
live and talking about how he was going to see it and then i did a little bit of the rav uh pre-show
00:50:27.040
and i was just looking at the rumble numbers and that was sort of the first indication that i had
00:50:31.980
i was like wait a minute like this this isn't just big this is this is way beyond anything that even
00:50:40.920
we were projecting well yeah to your point here at least officially i will say though that and
00:50:47.400
andrew's not here but he and i had like a phone call that morning and we were like could you
00:50:53.120
imagine if we get to like we were like could you imagine if we get to 10 million wow that'd be
00:50:58.720
crazy and to your point with chris and and again kudos to rumble if it wasn't for rumble we may
00:51:04.120
not be here today for those numbers to exist yeah you see i'm saying like like rumble was the rumble
00:51:10.180
was a huge portion of what made a lot of this possible and it's not just that that one provider
00:51:17.260
there's all these other providers that were out there all of the major mainstream networks uh
00:51:22.720
rumble helped reset everything because they they had they had competition rumble is is massive now
00:51:30.200
and if they don't compete then rumble gets all of that business yep right today so
00:51:37.340
that was even before elon got x that was even before elon came in for x chris totally yeah it
00:51:43.720
was it was all chris it was rumble it was the entire team at rumble so we're very very grateful
00:51:49.040
because Rumble is the unsung hero in most of Americans
00:51:55.660
being able to consume even middle-of-the-road content now
00:52:07.460
That's the phrase that I keep just rattling through my head.
00:52:10.160
It's just the perfect storm between all the years of pent-up demand.
00:52:15.060
Which, by the way, country music in and of itself,
00:52:17.140
It is the most listened-to genre of music in the country.
00:52:24.600
It gets the most attendance if you go state by state.
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And yet for 30 years, there has not been a headliner of country music at the Super Bowl.
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For 23 years, there has not been a single country artist since Shania Twain.
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Rock music as well has been completely shunted off for 16 years.
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And it's like, you guys are just cutting off this massive market demographic market, which is, you know, very, very obviously the same demographics of people who watch the NFL.
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And in many cases are the people who vote for Donald Trump.
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Well, what's what's so offensive about all that?
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Like they like exploited Hank Williams Jr. for years with his theme, the Monday Night Football theme song.
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So every football-themed song that's existed for Sunday Night Football
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and Monday Night Football has always been country.
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This is what's so offensive about this entire thing.
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I'm not even a country guy, but I will come to the defense of country.
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They've exploited for marketing purposes country music
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to actually sell something, what do they go to?
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drag some boomer artifact out from the 60s like no yeah you know like let's get another who song
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that we use to market csi episodes uh it was and then hank after hank williams then they uh
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they i mean it's everybody everyone every when everyone thinks of monday night football you
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think of hank william williams jr is well did you hear so don't forget they canceled hank williams
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jr and i would so i was on glenn beck this week and he told me the backstory that hank williams
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jr was listening to glenn beck that's how he found out he got canceled they didn't even call him
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like the nfl didn't even reach out to him directly and he was listening to glenn and he had these
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and this is the story that glenn told me that he had these 10 monday night football guitars like
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acoustic guitars in his house and he got so mad and so upset at the way that they treated him
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that he smashed them he was just grabbing them and smashing them and smashing them and smashing
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them and he finally came to the very last one and he stopped himself and he said I'm not going to
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smash this I'm going to give it to Glenn Beck and that way at least one of them and he has it in
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like that museum that glenn has and and i said wait a minute so he he doesn't have any of the
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he doesn't have a single one in his house anymore not a single one in his possession he's like i'm
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i'm cutting them out like a cancer this is wild wow but that's the story that's the anger that led
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to the pent-up demand that's the anger of middle america that's the anger of the average american
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who just wants to be able to turn on something that isn't disrespecting them for being an American,
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for liking his country, for caring about Jesus Christ, for saluting the red, white, and blue
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that there's so many people have been crapped on for years just because, oh, you know, you're some
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redneck American. And it's like, no, actually, that's like a huge, massive chunk of this country.
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and you know what that anger i think turned and and god used all of that to turn it into something
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positive which led to and we haven't really talked about that much yet but the like kid rock sharing
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the gospel and his own salvation story which is just just crazy when you think of like the kid
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rock when we first met him to who he is today all right well we have a lot of ideas for next year
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when it was announced but then just every single
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to be honest no that was the english guy oh really okay yeah that was oh wait that that was
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ruben gallego that's my auntie she asked me a while for some of the girlfriends dude ruben
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that was ruben gallego did an excellent job at the halftime show ruben gallego was over there like
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he was he was tweeting all about it the entire time it's like oh man i can't wait to use that
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Nobody has ever had a barbecue outside the way my culture does.
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we'll see it is i mean i think it legitimately was just look that halftime show the genesis of
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that was in many ways thought crime because this is where we would talk about halftime shows with
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charlie this is where we would hash things out this is where you know we really kind of came
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up with the genesis that led to the show and you look at it number one u.s stream on youtube of
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all time however number two worldwide wait just real quick before we go did you guys uh did anyone
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see what was the actual number one worldwide it was some like indian space landing wasn't it
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yeah so it was when india landed a lunar uh probe on the moon and so so so hold on guys i've got
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this figured out i've got this figured out so if next year if we want to beat it i already know
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what the venue is call up elon musk we're gonna do it on the moon and then we're gonna invite
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modi there so you know whatever portion of the 1.8 billion in the subcontinent are gonna watch
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tune in this is how we do it this is how we do it that would be amazing i want i want to get
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elon's dream is to be doing stuff on mars so we got to do mars stuff halftime show on mars
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the moon is on the way okay is it wait can we play that indian music again we can do it as we
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do it as we close out we can do it as we close out no no we got to close out on vip we got to
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close out on vip good to see you all modi on mars oh my gosh that could be a great i could keep going
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but but unfortunately unfortunately that is all the time we have for the criminality the cognitive
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criminality on this thursday so to everyone out there thank you thank you to god thank you to
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jesus thank you to the holy spirit we continue to be humbled by god's grace and i hope charlie
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was up there looking down saying you guys did good so ladies and gentlemen as always