Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 121 — Back To the Moon？ Bryon Noem's Bimbo Fix？ Mt. Everest = Lame？

00:00:00.000 all right welcome to this thursday edition of thought crime we are joined by russ blake

00:00:06.880 and cliff hey cliff good to see you man you too you're looking well as always nice hat on your

00:00:14.840 head which uh which one's this you're you're like you're like tyler you guys that's why you

00:00:19.580 you interchange with tyler you guys have lots of hats this is the win poker well world poker tour

00:00:26.980 i think it was uh i think it says on there 2022 yeah look at you man the world poker

00:00:31.940 championship it was gonna be something obscure are you a card shark i didn't realize that cliff

00:00:36.580 we'll get into that sometime blake i don't want to brag too much

00:00:39.820 well you know that's yeah it's a card shark something like that all right all right whatever

00:00:45.440 whatever enough niceties guys guys guys guys we have something extremely important run it clip one

00:00:50.920 why do you want to be here why do you love space why do you love being a part of history we're

00:00:57.480 going back to the moon that's why we're going back to the moon guys hold on all right okay

00:01:06.220 so first of all this is we're going back to the moon and blake does with strong cell too he always

00:01:12.200 jumps the gun all right a couple things we're doing an early thought crime today uh we may

00:01:17.820 get jack in but jack is actually participating in the uh turning point event at george washington

00:01:23.980 university so hopefully he can call in because we want to talk about him going viral with lord

00:01:28.600 of the rings last night i think it's important yeah uh hopefully we get him in anyways by the

00:01:33.280 way you came out smelling roses on that i did i got marked safe by nerd roddick and i did not

00:01:37.660 because apparently i just haven't watched it relatively like sooner even though i said

00:01:41.620 pretty sure it's overtly christian that was my it's true that was your take yeah you guys are

00:01:46.780 always good anyways you're gonna you're gonna call it dei this week that's what

00:01:50.200 I predicted no no he's gonna do it a little bit on the gay side but that's 0.81

00:01:53.380 fine okay here we go we are doing an early thought crime with cliff and yes 0.98

00:01:59.260 our first topic is Artemis too long man you know what play it again why do you

00:02:05.600 want to be here why do you love space why do you love being a part of history

00:02:09.940 We're going back to the moon. That's why oh

00:02:14.440 That kid is awesome

00:02:20.020 Don't tell mom I've taught you that word ah it's so great

00:02:23.740 We're going back to the moon some people are trying to black pill they're trying to be lame about it

00:02:27.180 They're trying to be we went back to the moon 60 years ago. Yeah, but we're going to the moon again

00:02:32.320 Well, did we go to them? Yes?

00:02:34.520 We went to the moon wait does anyone here is anyone here?

00:02:39.940 any of the current conspiracy theories let me have the 60s ones no uh so you're gonna be like

00:02:46.440 that andrew you're just gonna say it and then i want cliff to weigh in this is from 1969

00:02:53.020 allegedly well i guess either way it's from 1969 uh sock four

00:02:58.780 uh very very fine grain as you get close to it it's almost like a powder

00:03:06.280 I'm going to step off the laminate.

00:03:16.580 That's one small step for man.

00:03:21.480 One giant leap for mankind.

00:03:25.640 Oh, that looks beautiful from here now.

00:03:28.020 It has a stark beauty all its own.

00:03:30.460 It does look beautiful, doesn't it?

00:03:33.220 because it was on a soundstage in burbank just kidding uh cliff what's your what's your take

00:03:39.820 of artemis 2 and us allegedly returning to the moon yeah i mean listen this is the one conspiracy

00:03:47.460 i feel like is allowed these days because we've had enough time in between um now i'm not quite

00:03:53.180 there where i don't believe it but i think with everything that's happened in the last 10 15 20

00:03:57.660 years i would not be surprised if a couple years from now we find out hey this this baby was

00:04:03.200 stage but i gotta make one comment the kid reminded me have you guys ever heard the story

00:04:07.920 about the janitor one that we were first trying to go to the moon is this is this folklore or have

00:04:13.360 you heard this one before i'm not familiar with this legend you're going to have to educate so

00:04:18.320 apparently kennedy or some high-level politician was there and ran into a janitor and there was a

00:04:25.520 camera on them and he said to the janitor he said what do you do here and the janitor said i'm

00:04:30.960 working to put a man on the moon and they talk about this at like um you know like ceo or self

00:04:36.880 help type seminars that like you know you want your team fully aligned that kid from that interview

00:04:42.240 he was locked in and ready to go yeah yeah that is actually a cool like leadership story you got

00:04:49.040 the janitor who's like all in to clean the heck out of those toilets because he thinks that he's 1.00

00:04:54.240 helping to send somebody to the moon really we're just trying to win a pr war against the ruskies 0.99

00:05:00.320 yeah but we won it awesomely yeah even if it okay is it more bad well is it is it more cool 0.99

00:05:08.160 sorry 11 year olds this is a pg-13 show is it cooler if we actually went to the moon or if we

00:05:14.980 pulled off an entire like you don't do this no don't do any of it don't do this devil's advocate

00:05:20.600 stuff it's way cooler to go it is the entire world that you went to the no yeah no i want to be honest

00:05:28.120 i believe we went to the moon i'm very proud of that as an american but it is weird that it's

00:05:34.600 been since 1969 and well when was the last time we went to the moon it was like mid-70s like 71

00:05:39.300 or 72 that was like 75 we were going at like one or uh every year or so i think so anyways it's

00:05:45.820 just wild that it you know it's legitimately 50 years ago that we and now we're not even landing

00:05:51.440 on the moon by the way artemis 2 their mission is to slingshot around the moon the moon's gravity

00:05:56.340 come back to earth and then and then by 2028 land somebody yeah i think the current plan is

00:06:01.480 artemis 4 is the one that lands on the moon artemis 3 is going to be testing landing stuff

00:06:06.640 in orbit around earth and then i think artemis 4 is like they actually do it yeah i just think

00:06:12.700 conspiracy theorists have way too much leeway these days well i've made the observation that

00:06:18.140 we went from trust the experts to only trust non-experts that don't know what there's so many

00:06:26.080 non-experts oh the gosh the internet is blake got into some fights with some non-experts oh man

00:06:32.220 last night oh yeah are we going there oh if you guys want no it's just like oh man we've got eight

00:06:37.440 million this is what happens when russ is yes dance there's just dance there's just eight you

00:06:43.220 know oh man yeah i'm sure every single person who is an expert on this at every single university

00:06:48.200 including in multiple countries who'd have reasons to affirm otherwise like they all agree on this

00:06:51.980 thing but no i bet i bet this like podcaster who does mma is like really really on point with this

00:06:57.800 thing he's he's definitely figured it out on the whole moon question oh i see which yeah oh wait

00:07:03.900 i didn't even know that rogan is rogan is a big moon truther no i've even seen tweets like people

00:07:09.100 arguing that like a very real reason we're doing this mission may literally be to like prove to

00:07:14.100 rogan that we can actually do it so i have a family member who be who will remain unidentified

00:07:22.180 um that is is a flat earther like a legit flat earther are they on like no this is like a normal 0.99

00:07:30.940 good person like in a lot of ways this is why and and not dumb actually no they're they're dumb 0.94

00:07:37.740 about this they are cliff laughing about this they are wrong like do they fly in planes 0.70

00:07:45.820 what's that do they fly in planes well so that i've had this conversation i was like can you

00:07:52.360 not see the curvature like if you're if you're if you fly for example from seattle to london

00:07:57.720 which i did one time many years ago i remember because it goes up towards the arctic and comes

00:08:02.080 down it's the shortest route and you could see the curve of the earth very clearly and and then

00:08:08.780 you think about artemis like how many things would they have had to engineer and just pre-plan

00:08:14.840 to fool people about the curvature of the earth because that thing was up there how many people

00:08:18.860 are in on five minutes it was in you could see every single commercial pilot is in on it because

00:08:23.860 they plot out their courses apparently on the assumption the world is around they'd have to

00:08:28.460 do it quite differently if it wasn't so like one of their points that they make is that you don't

00:08:33.120 go like a lot of people fly over the arctic but nobody flies over antarctica or yeah where would

00:08:41.520 you be flying to i don't know like maybe you were going from australia new zealand to uh south

00:08:47.060 america yeah and also there's probably no like airports you can land on there if anything goes

00:08:51.920 wrong yeah but you couldn't land at an airport in the arctic yeah there's closer ones there's

00:08:55.740 like places you could like yeah i mean like usually when you fly over i don't think you're

00:08:59.380 usually going over the north north pole usually you're like doing more of a great i don't know

00:09:04.260 i'm not sure but before we in general like look at a map there's nothing in the south pole area

00:09:10.040 like antarctica is really far away even from the southern tip of like south america or australia

00:09:17.400 also i just can't imagine there's that many flights from australia to santiago chile or

00:09:22.500 whatever what's the expected time on this is it like two weeks i mean what are they it's about

00:09:27.880 10 days 10 days it takes you like five days to get to the moon didn't we hear that like the

00:09:32.240 bathroom malfunctioned yeah they fixed it but you did have to worry about that because there's there's 1.00

00:09:38.920 two i believe there's two women on this on this ship and you know women need a lot of time in 1.00

00:09:43.980 the bathroom should have sent mark wayne mullen up there he'd have been able to fix the bathroom 1.00

00:09:47.920 pretty quickly plumber we should have sent aerosmith on this mission because they were

00:09:53.000 really good in the movie armageddon oh you're right there you go it says however a few long

00:09:58.460 haul routes in the southern hemisphere fly close enough to skirt or briefly enter antarctic air

00:10:04.300 space especially depending on winds and exact routing these typically offer distant views of

00:10:09.800 the continent's edge or ice but this plays into their conspiracy theory ice wall because it's

00:10:14.980 like yeah it's like a whole ice ring and so if you're flying close enough you're just touching

00:10:20.580 you you could see the ice but you don't fly over it so what's their explanation for like

00:10:26.600 some flights go east and some go west to get to the same spot you that you're going around

00:10:35.720 like it's all a big flat disc yeah you're you're the the disc spins i i don't know this perfectly

00:10:41.600 well i'm not the best guy but the disc spins and they're flying around a disc and why do they

00:10:46.180 believe this which is why it makes sense to go over the north pole because it shortens the distance 0.98

00:10:49.900 everything uh just because the internet told them yeah that's yeah i'm gonna go if they're dumb

00:10:55.840 i got three reasons here grok's telling me why people don't fly over antarctica one no demand

00:11:02.660 for direct routes which is pretty obvious uh safety and practical challenges and then the

00:11:07.840 Lack of infrastructure.

00:11:09.580 There's only a handful of research military airstrips,

00:11:11.980 mostly on ice, seasonal, and not equipped for large commercial jets.

00:11:17.160 Did you mention extreme conditions?

00:11:20.720 Yeah, I was going to say.

00:11:21.240 Antarctica has way more extreme weather.

00:11:23.240 Antarctica is way colder than the North Pole.

00:11:24.960 We sat in a plane for an hour waiting to get de-iced just in Minneapolis.

00:11:31.220 So God forbid we're going to the North Pole.

00:11:35.080 We have all these conspiracy theories about flat Earth,

00:11:36.660 we have a lot of cool stuff we could do with antarctica we could go with at the mountains of

00:11:40.680 madness is actually a true account from h.p lovecraft and if you fly over it you'll unleash the cthulhu

00:11:45.420 horrors that will overrun humanity we could also say the thing we could say the thing was the dot

00:11:51.420 was a documentary and that if we were to send planes to south the south pole they could crash 0.98

00:11:57.940 and allow the thing to escape and consume all of humanity with its assimilative powers no idea 0.89

00:12:02.200 you have you haven't seen the thing wait the thing the thing you don't even know what i'm

00:12:08.360 talking about he doesn't even know about the thing cliff you know what the thing is right

00:12:13.140 uh-oh oh uh i don't you don't no one has anyone okay okay rumble chat like back me up on this

00:12:21.460 you guys have watched the movie the thing right come on are you appealing to the chat yes i'm

00:12:27.180 who wrote it the thing movie 1982 whore yeah the thing man it's where like it's where you can't

00:12:35.380 trust anyone because any of them kurt russell's in it yeah kurt russell and it's the alien and

00:12:39.760 it assimilates and like it poses as people and then they like antarctica yeah it's not an

00:12:45.500 antarctic base antarctica a group of american research scientists are disturbed at their base

00:12:50.960 camp by a helicopter shooting at a sled dog when they take in the dog it brutally attacks both

00:12:57.020 human beings and canines in the

00:12:59.120 camp and they discover that the beast

00:13:00.960 can assume the shape of its victims

00:13:03.160 a resourceful helicopter pilot

00:13:05.040 and the camp doctor lead the camp crew

00:13:07.180 in a desperate gory battle

00:13:08.920 against a vicious creature before it picks them

00:13:11.060 all off one by one

00:13:12.860 Andrew you should do voice over work

00:13:14.600 it's very passionate

00:13:15.400 it's the movie that came out it was the cooler movie that came out

00:13:18.720 at the same time as E.T.

00:13:20.040 in a world

00:13:20.940 you can't trust anyone

00:13:24.620 in Antarctica

00:13:25.580 In 1982, Kurt Russell leads a crew desperately attempting to fight back

00:13:31.600 against an alien canine force.

00:13:33.900 Oh, wow.

00:13:34.880 That is pretty good.

00:13:35.700 Thank you.

00:13:36.260 What did you do?

00:13:38.140 You guys ever?

00:13:39.660 That wasn't scary.

00:13:41.120 It was beautiful.

00:13:43.060 You guys ever hear the,

00:13:44.420 I'm now diving deep into the Antarctica conspiracies,

00:13:48.080 and I had not heard this one before.

00:13:51.100 They're really secret Nazi bases, and that's where Hitler escaped to.

00:13:54.740 i hadn't heard that before like oh yeah there's like a fun name for it too it slows down the

00:14:00.600 aging process he's the batman villain known as mr freeze yeah well that too yeah they had like a

00:14:06.380 name of it it's like what was it like new bism yeah new swabia new swab and land they would call

00:14:11.720 it and i i believe in the moon landing i just want to be very clear because

00:14:18.280 okay so accepting that the moon landing is real is it you know we're all very excited for that kid

00:14:25.720 but is it sufficient that we are going back to the moon 60 years after we went for the first time

00:14:31.280 we have way better film production now so we do prove anything everybody's just gonna be like

00:14:35.920 it's a hologram it's is the mission tainted ai is the mission tainted by us bringing a canadian

00:14:42.720 on this mission and not leaving him on the thousand percent yeah we call it maple syrup

00:14:47.980 americans yeah what's that cliff it's a complete disgrace complete disgrace i don't know how we

00:14:53.500 let that pass does he does he have an american flag on his on his shoulder look at and there's 0.70

00:14:58.580 a woman which got yeah but let me let me say this though i think the whole landing part is like

00:15:05.820 that's what's impressive i mean obviously you know i'm not saying that getting to the moon is

00:15:10.300 obviously impressive but like you know what was it the ballpoint pen and the whole story you know

00:15:14.540 of what happened and then getting off the moon like that to me is what you know you think you

00:15:20.040 think what was the movie we were just saying armageddon like you think about the landing

00:15:23.600 part i do think that discounts the whole trip that they're not actually landing well you build up to

00:15:29.820 it you build up to it it's still the first time so weird is that we've already done it before

00:15:34.520 yeah we haven't done it for like seven really that's what's tragic is that america abandoned 0.96

00:15:39.780 this and we know why because america went all in on brought it back dumber stuff you know trump

00:15:44.500 brought it back and then biden shelved it and trump you know who really brought it back of 0.85

00:15:49.940 amusingly it was bush remember bush got really into like we should go to the moon and land on

00:15:55.960 mars and stuff and then trump's really moved very slowly we should we should land on mars this should

00:16:00.980 be this should be step one towards us going to mars and we should also well now we're in a race 0.99

00:16:06.280 against china because that's the whole reason right yeah yeah yeah so so china wants to 1.00

00:16:11.180 essentially own the moon and we're like we're gonna do it first i don't know what kind of 0.92

00:16:15.920 minerals are on the moon like could you mine the moon oh 100 percent what's on the moon i think

00:16:20.460 everything i think anything that would have created minerals on earth would have made them

00:16:23.800 on the moon too so there is a there's an amazing show that i love on amazon prime or not amazon

00:16:30.680 on prime apple tv called for all mankind and it literally the whole point is like what if the

00:16:36.840 united states had won or lost the space race back in the 70s and then you kind of go through them

00:16:43.540 landing on the moon them putting a uh a permanent base on the moon then the race for mars and

00:16:51.400 there's a whole like the cold war actually has a full-on kinetic war on the moon wow that's kind 0.93

00:16:58.660 what if we were right soon if we were losing the space race to china and they were taking over the 0.78

00:17:05.620 moon would it be justified for us to blow up the moon pretty sure that would have some down yeah 0.92

00:17:15.440 that would have some serious consequences okay okay you guys can all be like oh no don't blow

00:17:20.140 up the moon there was did you know there was an actual college professor who was obsessed with

00:17:23.860 pushing the idea that we should blow up the moon really yes this is this is obscure uh cliff what

00:17:30.360 were you gonna say no i was just looking at the bush stuff because i'd never heard that blake

00:17:33.880 and you're right his moon this is uh w bush his moon goal was to return by 2020 and then his mars

00:17:40.560 goal which this is such a simple thing for w to say was to use the moon quote use the moon as a

00:17:47.560 stepping stone to get to mars um which you know i get it but like uh yeah that was in 2004

00:17:54.520 vision for space exploration yeah that was the program name we're executing on bush's vision

00:18:00.720 in a variety of ways right now there you go uh yes it was an iowa state mathematics professor

00:18:05.720 alexander abian spent uh much of his career advocating that we destroy the moon which he

00:18:10.420 said would eliminate seasons the wobble of the earth and it would delete all associated events

00:18:15.780 like heat waves snow storms and hurricanes and he said that those who dismissed him were like those

00:18:20.640 who dismissed Galileo so he said we should explode the mood and he was a mathematics professor so he's

00:18:27.220 smarter than all of us but speaking of things that are kind of cool but also possibly lame

00:18:31.980 we also have very fascinating news out of another extreme part of our universe Mount Everest so

00:18:40.260 Mount Everest, the tallest mountain in the world, is in the news because Nepalese police have discovered a sinister Sherpa plot to poison Mount Everest climbers.

00:18:53.540 Apparently, they were spiking their food with baking powder or other things, causing them to fall ill so that they would then request a helicopter evacuation off of Mount Everest.

00:19:07.620 Extraordinarily daunting.

00:19:08.760 they would get a helicopter evac off mount everest which is really expensive and it was a way to

00:19:13.240 basically scam people into expensive helicopter evacuations off of mount everest stream that is

00:19:20.180 apparently it involved over 20 people and it may have cost over 20 million dollars worth of

00:19:25.600 expensive helicopter evacuations guaranteed it's like american insurance companies paying for it

00:19:29.820 oh 100 oh totally totally yeah we're like somehow the somalians figure out a way to defraud us and 0.95

00:19:36.200 the Nepalese it really is sinister like you think of what a cash cow just having Mount Everest is 0.99

00:19:42.700 for the Nepalese economy and then these guys are like no it's not enough we have to do this insane 1.00

00:19:47.920 scam on the people coming here to get money well on top of it too like most what a great culture

00:19:52.400 most of these people going up Mount Everest are rich people who are bored anyways so it's like

00:19:59.500 oh so you're gonna scam them out of even more money got it yeah so the reason I wanted to bring

00:20:03.880 this up is similar thoughts so okay they're scamming the people who climb mount everest but

00:20:07.420 the bigger idea the thought crime idea is climbing mount everest actually cool still or is it actually

00:20:14.180 kind of lame like let's be let's be frank here the first guy to climb mount everest did it in

00:20:22.360 the 50s and he had to figure it out edmund hillary and tenzing norgay they had to figure out how to

00:20:27.400 get to the top of the mountain and you know they were gonna die if they failed and they had to do

00:20:32.620 all the work but now you can just be a rich person and go climb Mount Everest you just

00:20:37.780 and it's the Sherpas the local Nepalese they do all of the hard work of figuring out they

00:20:42.360 basically create the route up there you just they guide you up the whole way and yeah you can die

00:20:48.820 but a lot of people die every year yeah but you can also die in like a normal car crash too and

00:20:54.520 I'm not a hero or brave for driving my car around Phoenix I think it's not exactly the same but it

00:20:59.880 It's much deadlier.

00:21:01.040 Have you seen the Phoenix Drivers? 1.00

00:21:02.360 It's bad.

00:21:03.240 It's bad. 1.00

00:21:03.880 The Nepalese. 1.00

00:21:04.840 Am I saying that right?

00:21:06.000 Nepal. 1.00

00:21:06.780 Say it however you want. 0.91

00:21:07.580 Nepalese.

00:21:08.600 I mean, they are really impressive. 1.00

00:21:10.700 The fact that these guys go up and down, up and down, up and down.

00:21:14.800 Yeah, they're impressive.

00:21:16.360 They're impressive.

00:21:16.960 They're impressive.

00:21:17.820 Not the rich white dude.

00:21:19.140 The rich white dude from the West.

00:21:20.420 Not so much.

00:21:21.440 I remember about, this was when I was in high school or so.

00:21:24.940 You didn't have to have technical training.

00:21:25.920 this guy became the first blind person to climb to the top of mount everest and yeah you can say

00:21:31.520 that's amazing he's blind but the other way you could phrase it is okay a blind person can do this

00:21:37.360 it does sort of degrade the accomplishment for everybody else yeah and you know what's interesting 0.83

00:21:41.600 about mount everest is that there's like a bunch of uh there's a bunch of like trash everywhere

00:21:47.920 it's become really like dirty the route because so many people do it well and the standard thing

00:21:52.720 is you use oxygen tanks and then you just chuck the metal tank it's there for the rest of eternity

00:21:58.120 you you're climbing with your climbing buddy and he gets tired so you chuck him his entire body

00:22:04.720 exactly to the side to get to the top and abandon him and they do throw up the b-roll of it it's

00:22:10.440 it's a content warning here but there's a lot of corpses on mount everest and in fact some of them

00:22:17.460 are important landmarks there's a canadian flag yeah all right and like this is what will happen

00:22:22.640 you will get tired you'll be in the death zone and you just get tired and now the guides will

00:22:27.660 say like you need to get up or you're gonna die you have to keep moving but if you can't keep

00:22:32.560 moving they just ditch you there and if you're high up enough you can't get that scam helicopter

00:22:36.940 rescue now you're making it sound cool to hike mount ever like if you it's impressive if you

00:22:41.280 hike mount ever yeah but it's also again it's that combo where the sherpas are doing all the hard

00:22:47.160 work so if you go out there and you just die and you're not doing the hard work to climb you're

00:22:52.080 sort of hazarding high altitude and you might get altitude sickness and keel over it just sort of

00:22:58.240 feels dumb to me it's the mountain climbing equivalent of getting into a cage and swimming

00:23:05.600 with sharks like it's not i got the numbers here what do you what do you guys think how many people

00:23:11.280 die per year yeah how many people died per year i'm not sure i'm sold on this analogy yet i think

00:23:17.120 i actually thought it was much higher go ahead take a guess before you look it up i got the

00:23:20.400 the numbers thank you guys blake yeah i mean i would say i want to say it's like it comes in

00:23:24.480 bursts like there will be years where no one dies or one dies and then there will be a bad storm

00:23:28.340 and maybe like 10 people last year i would i would say average of one or two last year was five which

00:23:34.960 is a pretty low number uh eight deaths in 2024 2023 had 18 deaths holy moly and then the notable

00:23:41.620 one was 2015 there was a huge avalanche around base camp uh 19 people died wow it's lower than

00:23:49.140 thought i thought it would be much higher that's the worst of all you go to everest and you just

00:23:54.740 die in an avalanche at base camp right that sucks i hadn't thought about it that way

00:24:01.860 womp womp yeah did i mean but i wonder how many of those were hikers and sherpas or did

00:24:06.820 the sherpas that were like we know how to avoid this it varies there are there are definitely

00:24:10.500 accidents that will take out a lot of sherpas really it's just some girl named stephanie just

00:24:15.220 doing the check-in list and what the sherpa 20 2014 there were 16 sherpas because there was some

00:24:23.420 sort of like that was there were the only people that died that year there was some sort of ice

00:24:27.360 fall collapse that was 2014 they're just getting back for all these sherpa deaths that have 0.93

00:24:32.620 happened throughout the year they're getting they're getting back at uh at whitey yeah yeah

00:24:37.840 i can kind of see that it's a dark story yeah this is it's very dark but no we need uh comments

00:24:42.860 if anyone has thoughts is it lame to climb mount everest let's see i don't think it's quite as lame

00:24:49.100 as you know or like it's more harrowing than floating in a shark tank completely protected

00:24:54.600 because the only way you die that way is if you have some sort of like i mean have you seen the

00:24:58.760 videos of sharks getting stuck in there and and really people literally like up against the back

00:25:04.660 of the cage because the face got stuck in there oh no but i mean i guess that makes some sense but

00:25:09.700 it's not like if you're a small enough shark to get through a cage and a shark tank you're probably

00:25:14.120 not like a man eater kind of andrew's the kind of guy he watches jaws and the guy gets in the cage

00:25:18.240 he's like i could do that it doesn't look scary he watches the meg and he's like jason statham

00:25:25.020 has nothing on me but at least the meg is a fictional shark jaws is a real shark and just

00:25:29.460 jaws is not a conspiracy yeah yeah it's not it's not a conspiracy because the moon landing's fake

00:25:35.440 yeah andrew andrew's just watching jaws and he's like they don't need a bigger boat

00:25:40.100 i could take that out on a jet ski no i definitely don't you know jaws jaws rocked me to my core as a

00:25:45.620 kid because uh one of the behind the scenes shows spielberg when they put the oxygen tank in the

00:25:51.840 shark and then they shoot it and then obviously the shark explodes and apparently somebody

00:25:56.200 technical on scene was like well steven if you shoot an oxygen tank it's not necessarily going

00:26:00.880 to explode and he was just like they'll believe that it explodes that was like his whole line

00:26:06.660 for doing that like there's no if you shoot an oxygen tank it's not going to explode

00:26:10.800 but by the way the the fact that he was just like they'll believe it explodes

00:26:16.320 goes back to the moon landing good director knows what the audience will believe

00:26:22.900 mr kubrick they'll never think this is real they'll believe we landed on it

00:26:26.900 honestly the least convinced the reason all the kubrick conspiracy theories about the moon landing

00:26:32.000 don't work is that knowing what we do about stanley kubrick he would have made them redo the landing

00:26:36.700 about 50 times before he'd be satisfied with the take so that's probably the best argument against

00:26:41.800 that particular weird conspiracy well i actually again i believe the moon landing happened i just

00:26:46.640 understand why someday okay shall we i've been waiting for this then we shall all right all right

00:26:54.380 uh cliff we have to start with you here since you weren't a part of this conversation

00:26:58.580 do you believe the lord of the rings to be overtly pagan or not so let me give my political answer

00:27:07.980 first you'll be you'll be very disappointed in me so in a past life i think andrew might know this

00:27:15.780 but i was a math teacher and i taught in new zealand and so i got to go to hobbiton

00:27:21.000 uh it was an interesting trip i have never seen the series so talk about being a bad guest

00:27:26.480 and somebody who cannot comment i have no clue um i've obviously seen clips but i did not feel the

00:27:34.100 lord jesus christ when i was at hobbiton that is my thought for this conversation score one for

00:27:40.480 jack right yeah yep i just i don't get these takes where it's like it's pagan unless like

00:27:45.320 frodo collapses on his knees and confesses jesus as his lord and savior but admittedly that's it

00:27:51.480 went quite viral i got sent i have friends in europe who also don't know that i work on this

00:27:58.220 like program who were sending me that clip so let's let's remind people what it was uh let's

00:28:03.440 do clip 14 i've heard people try to make the argument that lord of the rings is overtly

00:28:08.560 christian and i hate to burst the bubble guys but you're just wrong there's nothing overtly

00:28:13.560 christian about lord of the rings uh there's no church in it there's no faith in it there's no

00:28:18.660 christ figure there's none of these things and honestly lord of the rings if it's anything

00:28:23.720 lord of the rings is overtly pagan i would like the record to reflect that when i was nodding

00:28:30.780 and smiling it was because i've heard that take before not because i agreed with jack

00:28:34.380 get me that final frame this is my defense give me the final frame my face goes like he goes

00:28:41.020 overtly pagan and i go because he was thinking he agrees with it unless you were trying to hold

00:28:48.060 back a sneeze well that was not what i was trying to do i was like huh all right well everyone got

00:28:54.300 very spirited about it everyone was ganging up on jack they were all going after him and so he

00:28:59.020 i believe he insisted he had to call back in to defend himself so i think we've got him on hold

00:29:04.860 uh jack are you there are they still crying are they still crying they're still crying

00:29:12.300 is that what's going on right now there's the lord of the rings like uh lord of the

00:29:18.380 rings is is catholic people are still crying about this what's that i hear what's this i hear

00:29:26.700 oh it's jack's theme music it's lord of the rings favorite music he listens to this regularly

00:29:32.220 all right jack what's weird is that like is that like really so what's really weird about this is 0.98

00:29:39.140 that like really stupid people who don't have brain cells thought that i was saying that i 0.97

00:29:44.340 didn't like lord of the rings or like that lord of the rings was bad or that i like they hold the 1.00

00:29:51.460 amount of hallucinations and drugs that people were taking kind of like the the earlier lord

00:29:56.760 of the rings fans who are the hippies are uh it was just amazing to see all of these things that

00:30:03.420 people were responding to that i literally didn't say because people forget that we were talking

00:30:07.980 about this because of the stephen colbert sequel to lord of the rings and the whole point of it

00:30:13.740 was me trying to explain why someone who's like an arch liberal would like lord of the rings but

00:30:19.240 then someone who's you know like a arch conservative like jd vance would also like the same series

00:30:25.280 And it's amazing to me that, man, not only did I burst the bubble, I burst it so bad that they're still crying about it.

00:30:32.800 And I've also realized that people don't know what the word overt means, where, yes, overt means on the surface level, which is actually something that was said by, wait for it, J.R.R. Tolkien, the writer of the series,

00:30:49.180 who said that he eliminated religion from the series

00:30:52.420 and it is not found until you review it further.

00:30:56.300 All right.

00:30:57.460 Do you buy this?

00:30:59.220 Do you buy his defense here?

00:31:01.520 I don't know.

00:31:04.080 What do you mean do I buy it?

00:31:05.080 It's just true.

00:31:06.860 It's just true.

00:31:07.580 Fair enough.

00:31:08.040 I don't know.

00:31:08.460 I just feel like this is –

00:31:09.920 I don't know.

00:31:11.120 I just think he's picking a fight.

00:31:12.220 He's picking a fight over the wrong thing with the wrong people.

00:31:15.960 I want to get the original one that went –

00:31:17.700 write about that i want to get the i send me the original like uh post from human events

00:31:24.180 roger that i want to because some people brought up some good points jack and i want to give you

00:31:30.480 a chance it's amazing go ahead i mean i'm happy to respond to all the incorrect points that people

00:31:36.360 were making you know there was a couple there were some people who came to your defense as well

00:31:41.160 like uh joshua lysic he he had your back let me see here i can't find the original

00:31:47.760 new york times multiple best-selling author joshua lysic

00:31:50.780 um there it is okay all right communist it's like communist it's okay so let's just deal with

00:31:59.500 the community note jack it says in letter 142 to father robert murray jrr tolkien describes

00:32:06.340 lord of the rings as a fundamentally religious and catholic work so in that letter they clipped

00:32:12.780 off the end of what he said he said it's foundational fundamental in the sense that

00:32:17.800 it's at the lower level but he also says that he eliminated religion from the series itself

00:32:24.600 and that you do not you don't encounter it until you go into the lower level like until until upon

00:32:31.160 the revision so he removed all of the overt elements of religion so all of the lord of the

00:32:37.060 ring stans like got really really mad and decided to take their own favorite author out of context

00:32:45.980 it's really sad actually like why are you guys twisting the words of tolkien if you love him so

00:32:49.940 much this is interesting so tom roswell uh you can find him at on x at tom underscore ros

00:32:58.180 rosell sorry rosell r-o-w-s-e-l-l he says pagan here tolkien was catholic and lord of the rings

00:33:06.180 is pagan mythology repurposed and imbued with christian morality it isn't actually pagan so

00:33:13.300 it's kind of like a quasi which is what kind of what i think you were saying actually um and a

00:33:20.740 lot of people made the point jack that since it you know middle earth and the whole theme is what

00:33:27.240 10 000 years before our current moment or something like that it was like some mythological and

00:33:32.580 antiquity that it couldn't have christ had not come yet at that point so it had to be pre-christian

00:33:38.880 but it was imbued with christian morality uh pagan mythology imbued with christian morality

00:33:44.700 would you agree with that presentation from this pagan i certainly would because again the pagan

00:33:50.000 here is not understanding what i'm saying i didn't say anything about the morality of the series

00:33:56.360 I was talking about the overt, surface-level elements of the story.

00:34:02.180 Dwarves, elves, knights, dragons, wizards.

00:34:07.600 Again, this is all pagan mythology.

00:34:10.540 Gandalf is basically a version of Odin.

00:34:13.860 You have a pantheon of gods and one higher god.

00:34:18.460 Again, this is all just pagan mythology.

00:34:21.200 As Tolkien himself said many times.

00:34:24.140 Gandalf is a guide.

00:34:25.340 He's not Odin.

00:34:26.360 he's an angel that's that's that's more of what tolkien was saying but i did have to like gandalf

00:34:31.980 is so so tolkien himself well don't don't lie don't don't twist tolkien tolkien himself said

00:34:37.540 that gandalf is based on odin in the in the sense of wandering not in the sense of like actually

00:34:44.780 like odin but the the core of it is that you know as with christianity he wrote that he was based

00:34:52.800 on earth it's absolute truth like lord of the rings is is written with at its core absolute

00:35:00.520 truth as in as good versus evil whereas in paganism there is no like absolute truth there's

00:35:07.680 just it's there's relative morality if that's the right word that i'm thinking of uh somebody this

00:35:13.760 one got some play here it says it's not like norse mythology okay but that's that's a morality

00:35:19.400 that's the morality that's not that's not we're just talking overt that's that's that's again i

00:35:25.000 didn't say anything about the morality oh i think he's gonna delay still overtly yeah that's still

00:35:30.620 overtly uh the morality part is both overtly christian i know what overtly means uh okay

00:35:38.520 but again that's a different it's explicit but that's a different okay but you're you're just

00:35:43.920 making a different argument than i was making okay fair enough i feel like if something's pagan

00:35:48.700 it's got to have actual pagan gods in it and there's only one god in lord of the rings and

00:35:52.040 it's explicitly like the christian god so that's yeah but that's not true there are there are

00:35:57.660 powerful creatures called the velar that operate as sort of a pantheon of god okay but like a

00:36:03.020 velociraptor is a powerful creature it's not a pagan god no but it's obviously like to his point

00:36:07.860 it's magical or holds powers well so is narnia so is narnia has narnia has yeah is a supposedly a

00:36:14.960 it's an allegory right right narnia is an allegory of the bible has centaurs oh here comes the one

00:36:19.960 about it here has minotards what about ism not even just that but no but but that's that's your

00:36:26.700 point jack it has magical creatures but it it's in your in your own words it is a direct allegory

00:36:34.820 of the bible because it has christ in it well actually in narnia christ is a a lion i don't

00:36:41.480 know that christ is a lion in our world but there's magical creatures in narnia unlike

00:36:49.400 and unlike you would have to you would have to take that up with jr well you would you find

00:36:55.880 yourself in disagreement with jr tolkien then because jr tolkien said that narnia is a direct

00:37:00.920 allegory of the bible okay so okay here here's here's an interesting one jack uh this is from

00:37:08.200 octoboyo uh it says it pulls most heavily from norse norse mythology take the volsunga saga for

00:37:17.420 example which revolves around loki stealing a ring from a dwarf which is then cursed to bring

00:37:23.100 death and destruction to whoever owns it this also inspired richard wagner's famous ring cycle opera

00:37:28.780 that's kind of an interesting one you know i'm just i'm just still getting hung up on this point

00:37:33.780 it has powerful creatures okay well the bible has those angels who fall to earth it's got the

00:37:38.720 nephilim yep it's got the devil and his angels are popping up in revelations we have demons

00:37:45.660 possessing people and yeah god has power over them but they are portrayed as existing

00:37:51.740 look look we can we can go around and around and and split hairs on all this like all day long

00:38:00.600 And believe me, I'd love to.

00:38:01.840 I love this stuff way more than politics, as you can tell.

00:38:06.400 Obviously, we're all into it.

00:38:08.300 I like Tolkien.

00:38:09.500 I like Lord of the Rings.

00:38:11.000 I saw people accusing me of saying that I didn't like it.

00:38:13.300 I didn't say that at all, actually.

00:38:15.440 And what I was trying to get at, I guess, if anything, was that I think that for the current moment that we do need things that are more explicitly Christian.

00:38:26.640 Because we live in such a fallen society right now that we need things that aren't just Christian morality below the surface.

00:38:35.340 I'm talking about over outward displays of Christianity and the Christian symbology.

00:38:44.100 I think that's really important.

00:38:46.060 And you see a lot of that in society today where people are bringing back those Christian symbols.

00:38:51.600 So I'm talking about, like, what should we use as a tool to evangelize? 0.63

00:38:58.200 And as great as Lord of the Rings is, I just don't think it's great of a tool if you're explicitly trying to bring people to the cross. 0.90

00:39:05.940 I mean, it might be good as like a really, really outward gateway drug, but it has spawned so many pagans and neo-pagans and Wiccans and elvish otherkin. 0.60

00:39:17.460 In fact, the word otherkin itself comes from Lord of the Rings fans who originally were like the hippies and the counterculture left.

00:39:26.840 So, you know, it's kind of a work that can be taken multiple ways.

00:39:31.320 And I've thought, as great as it is, you know, it's just not something that I would use for that function. 0.56

00:39:36.240 I mean, Stephen Colbert is a Catholic. 1.00

00:39:38.940 I mean, I'm not saying he's a good. 1.00

00:39:40.120 We're going to go wrong with that.

00:39:41.840 No, I think I feel like the best.

00:39:44.520 Oh, like Joe Biden?

00:39:45.880 Come on.

00:39:46.260 I'm just saying it's not like

00:39:49.260 Colbert is distinctly self-professing

00:39:52.040 Well, okay, so we have one more topic we want to get so I want to make one more final argument to Jack, and it's this

00:40:06.420 Yeah, yeah, it's great. I have to say though real quick

00:40:12.060 Well talking about you got me there Blake you got you got me there

00:40:16.260 I have to say, though, like specifically when it comes to evangelizing, I don't know any of my friends that are not Christian who would.

00:40:30.000 Who whose eyes don't glaze over the minute I start talking about anything that is fundamentally like like in your face, spoon fed, like here's the gospel message right off.

00:40:41.480 because growing up my mom used to have these movies from pure flicks and every single one

00:40:48.580 is poorly made but it's just the bible thrown in your face and it just didn't it just isn't work

00:40:56.120 but something with like lord of the rings is like you still have the opportunity to take something

00:41:02.480 that is good material good it's a good book it's a good movie and you're able to walk through

00:41:09.120 the elements of the gospel and the elements of christianity with something like lord of the

00:41:16.060 rings that a non-christian can get behind because they're not being just pummeled over the head with

00:41:23.060 the gospel like we're supposed to be salt and light we're supposed to be out there we're supposed

00:41:27.400 to be all of that and i agree with that but at the same time most christian most non-christians

00:41:33.740 do not care to listen to the the gospel message right off the bat you have to tease them in you

00:41:42.840 have to bring them in in some way shape or form and that's what lord of the rings has done for

00:41:49.160 generations even just with the books but then once the movies came out so that's that's all

00:41:54.800 i'm gonna say that's my final word on it i think my argument was a bit better yeah i'm not gonna i

00:42:00.220 I mean, I'm not going to say it doesn't lead to conversions.

00:42:05.900 I mean, J.D. Vance, of course, is a great example of that, you know, to steal my in your argument that, you know, here's – and, of course, J.D.'s got a book coming out as well about his conversion and his, like, return to the faith.

00:42:18.900 And we know that he has talked about Lord of the Rings in this context before.

00:42:24.280 uh i and so i i'm not going to discount anything of that and i'll point out that obviously that's

00:42:30.300 a great example but at the same time jd vance is a unicorn and we do not have a lot of jd vances

00:42:36.000 that you will not run across a lot of them so i wouldn't uh i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't want

00:42:41.340 to say that the unicorn is always the best way but you're right yeah obviously the pure flicks

00:42:44.940 stuff and i'm not knocking those guys at all but i i get what you're saying in terms of the

00:42:48.880 criticism there and no i would also not hold up that stuff either all right a lot of the a lot

00:42:53.100 of the comments by the way were that tolkien never said that narnia was too overtly christian

00:42:58.560 that wasn't the problem the problem was that it was too allegorical and he preferred uh more

00:43:04.640 sophisticated or more vague less on the nose yeah whatever you know all of that symbolism he was all

00:43:10.520 there all butthurt because tolkien was an anglican and everything i mean that's splitting that's

00:43:14.840 semantics we're talking we're talking about the same thing like overt allegorical overtly it's

00:43:22.220 again it's it's you're splitting here that's semantics it's the same thing all right well

00:43:26.700 jack we should be talking we should be talking about veggie tales and whether that went woke

00:43:30.660 or not i'm looking for that opinion i'm not gonna watch any oh it did it 100 did as somebody who

00:43:35.320 grew up on veggie tales i'm sure it did but everything okay i just don't watch veggie

00:43:39.040 made after 2003 or whatever just watch the old ones all right so um the final topic is something

00:43:46.480 well we got it jack's got a bounce we know jack jack you have to bounce jack yeah jack's got a

00:43:51.540 intro an event that's going on soon does he have to bounce now because i believe so i mean i can

00:43:57.540 hang for i can hang i can hang for a little bit actually because we we have like here i'm backstage

00:44:05.360 age of george washington and the event is filling up i see a ton of kids i've got like a camera feed

00:44:11.480 ton of kids are coming in um erica the team are here carolyn levitt's going to be here i mean

00:44:17.480 this is going to be a huge event it's the kickoff of this is the turning point i get i can hang for

00:44:22.600 like a couple more maybe one more topic all right well then you're very lucky because we have great

00:44:28.540 imagery christian or pagan to overtly something all righty we're going to talk about we're going

00:44:34.840 talk about the most famous person from South Dakota we have to talk about the

00:44:39.880 most famous person from South Dakota right now and that is oh no I'm a big

00:44:50.400 fan we gave you the option to bounce I'm a fan of my home state but there have

00:44:55.340 been strange reportings and rumblings from it in the past week so many of us

00:45:01.960 i myself included felt a lot of sympathy for the husband of christy noem because of the widespread

00:45:08.320 rumors about her amorous activities with another person and he was at her hearing testifying before

00:45:15.780 congress when they were grilling her about this it was all very strange everyone felt very bad

00:45:20.340 but someone didn't feel bad instead they just went and they leaked his entire private life to

00:45:24.960 the daily mail there are reports that she had been talking about this behind the scenes for a while

00:45:30.960 It's very possible. I don't know what the reports are, but apparently, just to catch people up on it, Brian Noem has some sort of hobby, and that hobby is, look, we should be clear, which of us hasn't inflated a balloon and then shoved it down our shirt to pretend that it's a cartoonishly large pair of breasts so that we can then send a bunch of money to strippers because we have a bimbo-fication finish?

00:46:00.360 I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting notification. 0.88

00:46:04.540 It turns out I actually do have to go.

00:46:08.540 Run Jack, run.

00:46:13.100 You guys, man, you, you, you guys have a, have a great time.

00:46:17.260 I'm about here with turning point USA.

00:46:19.240 I don't know if you heard of them.

00:46:20.160 Great organization.

00:46:21.000 I'm just going to, it's going to be with those guys tonight.

00:46:23.960 Have fun with.

00:46:25.080 I understand.

00:46:25.980 I understand.

00:46:26.980 All right.

00:46:27.540 I wish I could run.

00:46:28.680 Yeah.

00:46:28.840 Well, you're trapped.

00:46:29.660 You're trapped.

00:46:30.140 you can't get away so this is actually this is kind of man why do you feel bad for him like well 1.00

00:46:36.820 i guess what i would say is it's very bad it is very bad it's gross it's basically transgenderism 0.79

00:46:42.580 adjacent like we should honestly be happy he hasn't already truned out as it were uh but at 0.66

00:46:48.400 the same time my understanding is he basically he was never leaking anything against his wife he was

00:46:55.200 never doing anything publicly to humiliate her and there's something off about me that this is

00:47:01.840 bad this is 100 bad and he should not do it but he also was not a public figure he didn't hold

00:47:06.900 any office he was an insurance salesman in uh i think castlewood south dakota i can't remember

00:47:11.940 the name because i've never been to it it's that small that's who he is and he just like blasted

00:47:17.740 on the daily mail and in some sense it's almost like blasting any random person for doing that

00:47:23.300 And if this guy is not publicly putting himself out there, if he's not a lawmaker himself, something feels very dark about just leaking all of that. But that said, it is very gross.

00:47:35.060 So this is what Ryan James Gerdeski was reporting. He said, I mentioned on my podcast months ago that one of Trump's cabinet members was telling reporters off the record that her husband was gay. I didn't name name by name out of respect for privacy, but to say she had no idea really flies in the face of what she was saying. 0.97

00:47:53.300 uh and ryan this is a little bit different from being gay so ryan well it could just be

00:48:01.580 i don't know what it is part of the same sort of well it is what it is is based on what it is 0.57

00:48:06.640 it's autogynephilia like that's what's going on with cross-dressers it's that his kink is like 0.70

00:48:12.540 be that himself becoming the woman he is attracted to so it's a particularly messed up form well she 0.96

00:48:18.660 being straight what he's what he's saying is in the report uh she's like a spokesman

00:48:25.620 foreknown basically says she's devastated she had no idea please respect their privacy kind of thing

00:48:31.780 uh saying she's devastated the family is blindsided by this they're asking privacy and prayer which is

00:48:37.700 a funny way to put it blindsided maybe you could you could say that she was telling the truth that

00:48:42.100 she's blindsided by the fact that the report went public okay uh or she's blindsided by this 0.99

00:48:48.500 revelation that her husband is dressing up with fake huge boobs or she could just be not telling 0.99

00:48:53.260 the truth or she could just be come on guys we can't we can't justify this this is demonic this 0.98

00:48:58.560 is wild who's just and what gets me no no i don't i mean like when we talk about it it's like all

00:49:04.480 right well why would he do this it's weird and i gotta say this i am always so impressed with how

00:49:12.500 i always think oh you know i've seen it all and there is something about political power and look

00:49:17.760 yeah he might not be a public figure but his wife's a cabinet member there's just something

00:49:22.040 in the political world where these sexual deviants come out and it's like they're challenging or

00:49:27.720 trying to do what is not allowed it's almost like they're attracted to do things that are deemed

00:49:33.040 not appropriate but seeing this story i mean i couldn't even look at the photos the guy is weird

00:49:38.780 he's got a problem and it's just to me it's almost hilarious that some of this stuff comes out

00:49:44.800 because any normal person looks at this and is like what the hell is going on in the political

00:49:50.120 world in america well just talk for context because we're gonna have we're gonna have libs

00:49:54.140 bully brian know about this and yet we had to pretend for years on end that uh what's her name

00:50:00.360 in the biden administration uh rachel levine that rachel levine was like a totally normal person

00:50:05.400 and totally a real woman richard whatever well and then on top of that sam brinton totally normal

00:50:11.880 dude while he's i mean at least what we'll say brian gnome nobody at least so far private no

00:50:17.920 one so far has accused him of stealing anyone's luggage i don't really want to take any poly

00:50:24.080 market bets on what he might have been doing with his wife's clothes but and if cliff hates those

00:50:28.780 photos he's gonna hate the ones coming up next this oh gosh wait what hold on what uh you know

00:50:36.100 what i do my job well that's all i'm gonna say i was asked and i asked by whom i you know i'm

00:50:43.140 gonna throw angelo under the bus on this one he was like hey this would be funny i agree i thought

00:50:47.520 it was funny um yeah let's pull up photo uh 18 but wait what what are we about to see here oh

00:50:54.660 just wait it'll be it's a great there it is there it is and 19 hold on what oh oh uh 20 that's

00:51:04.300 disgusting oh 21 22 why did why did cliff get such a cliff this is way more

00:51:17.680 low-key yeah and 22 weird and then of course all right okay so that's that's

00:51:24.580 Marco Rubio auditioning for the job of Christine Ohm's next husband I suppose

00:51:28.480 you're welcome welcome back drive you know if you're only listening to this on

00:51:32.740 a podcast episode you're lucky and we're not gonna we're not gonna tell you what you

00:51:36.800 missed the jack one was really funny yeah throw that one back up that was funny jack

00:51:42.600 is here with us in spirit the reason that's so funny is it looks like one of those uh 0.86

00:51:47.480 pagan it was like uh adult uh you know female books that's like you know it's like porn 0.96

00:51:54.620 for women you know the the no i don't know you're you're digging yourself a hole in this 0.68

00:51:59.800 You're going to have to describe these books to me.

00:52:02.840 Whoa, whoa, you're throwing me under the bus now.

00:52:04.140 Yes, I am.

00:52:04.760 Oh, you're suddenly getting attacked by Andrew.

00:52:06.740 His stare kind of going, you know, it just, it worked.

00:52:11.120 Oh, like that facial expression you had last week with Jack

00:52:14.780 when he was talking about the Paganism?

00:52:16.320 You were defending yourself with your facial expression.

00:52:17.920 Yeah, that's what you should have done, Rush.

00:52:18.840 You should have put, you should have done the prosthetics

00:52:21.660 with that face rather.

00:52:23.640 Oh, you know, it was already hard to try to get Grok

00:52:26.460 to add chesticles to all y'all, but.

00:52:29.040 um disgusting so here's a thought what if brian noma just come out and just said that's an ai pick

00:52:33.400 and it's all fake i thought about a bit of defense you but you can run it through ai software you can 0.69

00:52:41.520 run it through ai software and find out if it actually is and they you know guaranteed reporters

00:52:45.860 would have been like we ran the photo through ai and it is not ai yeah and he could just be like

00:52:49.760 they're full of it now so what you do especially with x's algorithm right now you take that the

00:52:55.940 actual photo you throw it into ai make a bunch of ai photos of it and then just get a bunch of people

00:53:01.440 to circulate it around x and then all of a sudden you don't know what's what and what's this is

00:53:06.540 full on we are cooked aren't we the ai well i'll tell you who is cooked none of us can run for

00:53:12.920 political office now that we all just laughed at those photos with the screenshots i mean i was

00:53:20.500 disgusted for the record yeah but good thing i wasn't planning to run for political office

00:53:24.780 it's fair enough. Oh man. Although I do, I do see a Russ, uh, Russ congressional seat at some

00:53:30.640 point. Oh yeah. No, that ain't happening. Yeah. Especially after you ace the, uh, the Lord of

00:53:35.680 the Rings question. You're stuck. Hey, you know what? I got, I got marked safe by nerdronic and

00:53:41.480 the guys. Uh, I'm, I'm fully okay with that. I don't understand why I didn't get marked safe.

00:53:45.860 Why was I not marked safe? Cause you hadn't watched it. You, you, the, the problem was,

00:53:50.140 you explained that you hadn't seen it in like 10 years i mean that's probably human well that's

00:53:56.900 like nothing like i saw them when they came out and when they were like you know fair enough on

00:54:02.300 the streamers at first what if every member of the fellowship had the brian gnome look oh no

00:54:08.420 i i don't want to do that i i clock out you still don't have those photos i don't know all the orcs

00:54:15.100 just like grok is gonna start being like what is wrong with you we're turning you off yeah 0.78

00:54:20.160 there'd be a lot of subtle political commentary if you bimboed up the the orcs 0.72

00:54:24.860 that kind of resented they really would just basically well rings of power kind of already

00:54:29.160 did that yeah so i've heard i actually sort of i just to wrap it up put a fine point on it

00:54:33.820 it feels like some people are alleging that uh potentially our ex cabinet secretary was aware

00:54:40.780 of this maybe helped leak it we have no knowledge of that being the truth but we do have reporting

00:54:45.720 that says she was aware of it and not blindsided by it be hard to not be aware either or it is a

00:54:51.300 sad story because they do have kids and i feel bad for them so uh hopefully you know they can

00:54:58.920 pick up something like that yeah destroys the family yeah hopefully they can pick up the pieces

00:55:03.300 and i don't know what the future for i don't know how she didn't know as big as those prosthetics

00:55:10.180 or whatever you call them.

00:55:11.120 What did you call them?

00:55:11.860 Male?

00:55:12.400 What did you call them? 0.94

00:55:14.020 Chesticles.

00:55:15.060 Yeah, chesticles.

00:55:16.180 As big as they were,

00:55:17.780 I don't know where you're hiding those now.

00:55:19.220 They were a balloon.

00:55:20.320 It was a balloon.

00:55:21.140 That's tough.

00:55:22.020 Yeah, it's a balloon.

00:55:22.860 Yeah.

00:55:23.160 Oh, really?

00:55:23.860 You caught the balloon, yeah.

00:55:25.160 That's why they were so wonky.

00:55:26.720 Yeah.

00:55:27.660 You guys have a lot of experience

00:55:29.280 and detail on this.

00:55:30.200 I'm very impressed.

00:55:31.920 Russ is the one with all these.

00:55:33.100 I'm new.

00:55:33.720 I'm new.

00:55:34.260 I just got here last week.

00:55:36.680 You're not new.

00:55:37.620 You've seen all this.

00:55:38.460 Yeah, that's true.

00:55:39.420 Carnage.

00:55:39.780 That's true.

00:55:40.180 uh any final thoughts lord of the rings is christian culture thank you and good night

00:55:45.700 i'm gonna have to agree with you on that one but if you're a dude dressing up like a woman 0.87

00:55:51.520 that is not christian culture thanks andrew let me give a quick shout out erica came out

00:55:59.140 with tyler to open up the las vegas headquarters want to say congrats really excited about the

00:56:04.460 partnership between my group citizens alliance and turning point we got a lot of swing states

00:56:08.920 we're going to be battling. Obviously, as Charlie's vision worked backwards from 2028

00:56:13.400 with the presidential and in 2026, I think it's going to be a tough year. But I think we're

00:56:19.300 obviously going to do the work, do the ground game, and really excited about that partnership.

00:56:23.340 We'll have a lot more details over the next couple of months as we roll things out.

00:56:27.420 Yeah, that was a big, a big development. Nevada is key to building the red wall along with New

00:56:33.580 Hampshire and Arizona. So we're, by the way, if you guys want to get involved with what we're

00:56:37.540 doing there turning point action turningpointaction.com um obviously uh there's also

00:56:42.860 cliff's work citizens alliance but uh it's a great partnership so congrats as well cliff i know you're

00:56:48.480 central to that whole whole vision so big big moves and like i said there's so much i i sometimes

00:56:54.600 i wonder if anybody else is doing anything as much like media interest as there always is i mean i'm

00:57:01.720 i'm about at the point where it's just gonna say like you know no comment leave us alone like

00:57:07.140 legit is anybody else doing anything because we seem to be the topic of conversation 24 7

00:57:13.300 um thank you guys all for joining

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 04, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 121 — Back To the Moon？ Bryon Noem's Bimbo Fix？ Mt. Everest = Lame？

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