THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 122 — Would You Rather? Musical IQ? 40-Year Single Parties?
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 25 minutes
Harmful content
Misogyny
46
sentences flagged
Toxicity
86
sentences flagged
Hate speech
73
sentences flagged
Summary
On this week's TH13th Thought Crime, we have a new guest on the show, and it's a special guest! Andrew Colvat, AKA Lord of the Rings himself, joins us to talk about all things lord of the rings, including: The Dark Lord, Lord of Chaos, and much more!
Transcript
00:00:05.280
DNSSEC specifically targets the communications of everyone.
00:00:23.460
It's time for another Thursday edition of Thursday Thought Crime.
00:00:27.900
And there are so many thought crimes. Yes, thought crimes are abundant around in our society, in our world, online, offline, wherever you go, you may run into a thought crime.
00:00:40.100
And in fact, when you're getting money out of an ATM late at night in inner city Philadelphia, look over your shoulder because there might be a thought crime creeping up behind you.
00:00:49.300
yes so who we got on deck today i am of course in studio but it looks like we got ak-47 himself
00:00:57.020
andrew colvat what's up andrew what's up jack how's the weather back east yeah and we're waiting
00:01:03.720
on tyler allegedly and tyler tyler is joining tyler's coming he's party as usual he he claims
00:01:11.560
he's coming he's on he's on what we call mormon time okay and uh it's a little a little bit
00:01:18.160
different than you know regular time the same reason that you know they don't go for daylight
00:01:23.500
savings they have different numerology it's it's it's one of those things right blake
00:01:27.320
pretty much yeah uh he always uh he always leaves us on our toes you never know when he'll he'll
00:01:33.820
surface yeah well like jesus i could be right behind me right now team he's like a thought
00:01:40.080
crime the team is ready for him when he enters let me just assure you know they say you know
00:01:45.220
they say that 13 percent of thought crimes cause 50 percent of all the thought crimes what you know
00:01:54.800
it's funny 13 percent of the time they work every time so jack you know it's funny that you actually
00:02:00.500
are onto something probably about 13 percent of the thought crimes that we do on this show end
00:02:04.860
up going viral in one way shape or another but more than 50 percent of that involve lord of the
00:02:09.320
rings jackie still right about that still pagan she's still big overtly pagan don't wait don't
00:02:19.540
we have the line overtly overtly pagan see there it is the pagan that's becoming like a meme now
00:02:30.240
every time i post something they're like oh jack is that overtly pagan too because i was like i
00:02:35.740
went to see like the actually i have it here this isn't branded but i went to see the super mario
00:02:40.880
galaxy with my kids was that pagan the thing they're like they're like super mario galaxy
00:02:46.180
overtly pagan i mean is it is super mario galaxy is it pagan i feel like it's got to be right
00:02:52.960
yeah it is no absolutely obviously i mean it's got it's got wizards turtle wizards i'm on i'm
00:03:00.160
on a set with two catholics right now you guys have me beat on the identifying of pagan on the
00:03:05.720
other hand mario is italian and i feel like him being italian implicitly means well so actually
00:03:12.120
wait so this is wait no there's actually a great uh line about this because the legend of zelda so
00:03:19.240
you know link the main character in the legend of zelda everyone thinks his name is zelda but
00:03:22.540
it's not it's actually link that if you go back i think in the japanese versions of like the original
00:03:27.740
legend of zelda he he is like explicitly catholic and they've got like crosses and
00:03:34.640
on his shield and there's like bibles but it's like the japanese version of the middle ages so
00:03:40.140
it's like it's it's like he has actual magical powers and abilities as well and then in the
00:03:45.320
american version they changed it up yeah they do oh they they definitely have there's uh did you
00:03:51.460
ever play castlevania back in the day do you know that one uh i it's where you have like a whip and
00:03:55.960
you fight dracula and stuff and in in the manual it is it is canonical in the manual that the pope
00:04:01.720
called a crusade against dracula and that's why you have to go kill dracula wow because the
00:04:06.060
ordered you to do it you know we really didn't talk enough on this show about uh because i think
00:04:10.960
we covered in the daily show but the the japanese american connection how strong it is oh it's great
00:04:16.840
we love gave us the like the the twitter purge we all needed we love our japanese yeah i so i have
00:04:21.980
a i need to go to japan you've been to japan yes i have you went with charlie but i i have not gone
00:04:26.680
to japan oh it's a very go-to-able place wow i think i feel like i like really want to though
00:04:32.880
no actually i bet i was in uh when i was in second fleet you know japan obviously was like
00:04:40.220
our headquarters so anything that was you know like conference wise or that i had to go to for
00:04:45.560
whatever reason would be in yukosuka so you know you're coming up you're flying through tokyo and
00:04:49.700
i mean it's just the i'll never forget you know just riding around on the metro in japan
00:04:56.460
and seeing how uh kids it's so safe that they let their kids just ride mass transit to like go to
00:05:03.760
school by themselves like there you go and it's like and it's kind of jarring at first you're
00:05:11.400
like where are the parents for these children and they're just like you know dressed for school and
00:05:14.740
they're going like little kids and they're just like dressed for school and with their uniforms
00:05:18.700
then off they go and it's it's very it's just very neat and orderly i uh that i remember that
00:05:25.000
with some of charlie's selfie videos and like social media videos but that was actually i
00:05:28.660
remember him saying that about south korea actually south korea was the one where he was walking i
00:05:32.800
mean that was where he walked through the park and the people are on like the bubble chairs and
00:05:36.060
those would obviously be like covered with graffiti and graffiti yeah which is sad we don't have to
00:05:42.320
live this way but we've decided to uh import a permanent underclass and though what i will say
0.89
00:05:47.160
korea is the place korea is the dirty version of japan so if korea is clean japan is hyper clean
0.74
00:05:56.060
And China is like 10,000 times worse than Korea.
00:06:03.080
So also, Blake, you remember the trash can thing in Japan?
00:06:19.300
It's Tyler Bowyer late arrival theme song.
0.99
00:06:36.360
This is one of my favorite. If I was going to have
00:06:48.620
would be like, we would, like, find out, like, a few minutes
00:06:52.420
it's like i'm not gonna be there or i'll be late and then we would have to like stall
00:06:55.980
that's you you're the new you're the next four last four weeks i feel like all right well since
00:07:02.160
we have tyler so we were well no i want to i want to hit on this some more so so tyler we were just
00:07:07.120
kind of like uh i don't even remember how we got there but we were sort of loving on japan
00:07:12.600
and talking about how japan and america really need to like be allies now and that was like a
00:07:17.420
big trend on Twitter. Trump met with the prime minister, the new prime minister of Japan in the
00:07:24.880
White House. And, you know, that kind of just and then but at the same time, Twitter like
00:07:29.120
they sort of did this bot purge. I don't know if it's a full bot purge or something, but it just
00:07:33.880
made it so that Americans could see Japanese accounts more. And for people who don't know
00:07:40.380
that for a long time, Japan has been the largest country on Twitter that has the largest daily
00:07:45.500
active users, DAUs, for any country, even more than America. It's just sort of like their main
00:07:51.220
social media there in Japan. And, you know, people didn't realize that the Japanese had so much
00:07:58.020
affection for the United States of America. And, you know, that led to this kind of, you know,
00:08:04.480
rekindling of the bromance or perhaps like, perhaps you could even say like a, you know,
00:08:11.340
blessing of the bromance between america and japan and of course that i came out and said
00:08:17.100
on human events that we need to go a step further and we need to re-militarize japan we need to
00:08:23.660
allow them to have their full navy back let them get nuclear weapons like let's go all in
0.94
00:08:29.580
the memes have been so good though for the record it wouldn't be the first time that we gave japan
0.96
00:08:34.700
nukes oh just you know a different way it's not too soon too soon it's not too soon it's not too
00:08:42.340
soon it's not too soon it's not too soon all right trump trump made the joke about pearl harbor
00:08:45.780
remember because that's kind of what started all this all right now where he goes wait do we have
00:08:51.360
it no we don't we don't we should have oh because i know because he goes just for anyone who hasn't
00:08:55.740
heard it he goes uh they said well you know why didn't you tell us about the uh i guess it was
00:09:00.560
like a japanese um reporter or something like why didn't you tell us about the surprise attack on
00:09:05.780
uh iran he said why didn't you tell us about pearl harbor yeah no we saw it we saw it no but
00:09:11.280
we we speaking of a country that used to be a u.s ally excuse me we have another country so
00:09:16.980
now people are saying japan is our best ally or our best friend hold on now they finally got
00:09:21.720
our greatest ally yeah no should we play a video since we're talking no no no no i i want to we
00:09:27.920
We've got to get to the ex-U.S. ally, the decaying U.S. ally.
00:09:34.780
Now it's more just very special in that special way, which is the U.K.
00:09:40.160
The U.K. is banning travel from America to Japan, at least if you are one specific person.
00:10:15.540
What do they call it, the world stage that he was using
00:10:24.320
on it but dude look at this is this not the coolest stage you've ever seen it really is
00:10:30.240
i'm sorry it's the coolest stage i've ever seen stages i've also never that is a cool stage i
00:10:35.340
also think that that was the widest crowd that kanye has ever had look at this where was this
00:10:40.080
look at this i think that was in uh in california at the uh at the intuit yeah that's sick was it
00:10:46.020
oh i see i thought that was sphere i thought that was one of those sphere things oh was it
00:10:50.160
I thought he did his concert at the Intuit Dome.
00:10:58.080
I just found out that, oh wait, I don't want to say this.
00:11:04.480
I'm not going to say that because it might be a surprise for Tanya.
00:11:19.580
at kanye's concert well and again i think i think kanye's appealed to a lot of that thing a lot of
00:11:28.660
people of different diverse backgrounds but it was definitely there was definitely he's definitely
00:11:35.960
gained a lot of new whiter fans probably probably is that just a way of saying that he's because
00:11:42.260
he's embraced certain controversial yeah are you saying because he went anti-semitic that he
00:11:49.020
I would expect him to have a less white audience if he does that.
0.96
00:11:56.680
But what's interesting about this, though, is he's been on this apology tour
0.86
00:11:59.960
trying to say, hey, he's going with the Jewish rabbis, saying sorry,
00:12:11.080
Why would the UK go out of their way to block Kanye?
00:12:30.260
One, I don't know why we're supposed to care that much about what Kanye West says.
00:12:36.000
And I thought it was weird when we had that episode, especially a couple years ago.
00:12:41.800
Like, why do people care what Kanye West has to say?
00:12:45.080
As far as I'm concerned, rap is not really music.
00:12:49.100
Rap is not really music, and on top of that, when they say insane things,
00:12:54.380
it's really just barely a step above a crazy guy on the subway saying insane things.
00:12:59.480
And I don't feel that Kanye is that far away from that.
00:13:01.960
Caboose, can we get some Kanye tracks that you actually like, or are you against Kanye?
00:13:09.720
One of the most popular, again, I don't like this song,
00:13:14.360
was his collaboration that he did for American Boy.
00:13:28.380
What was that song that Kanye did last year, though?
00:13:32.040
It's about a British girl being into an American guy.
00:13:42.880
and now he can't go to the uk my my favorite thing that is full circle my uh favorite thing
00:13:50.220
that kanye sort of had a hand in doing was you remember when he did that uh music video with
00:13:55.060
kim kardashian on the motorcycle no you don't no i i don't really know kanye okay until until
00:14:02.700
he started running for president i couldn't have told you that's the video uh so bound to so it's
00:14:09.900
just super weird the whole music video is like them on a motorcycle and it's like gyrating like
00:14:17.300
i don't know and kim kardashian is not wearing a whole lot or anything at all and then anyways but
00:14:22.520
the point is seth rogan and james franco did a whole mock like parody of it where where seth
00:14:31.860
rogan's writing on we should get this we should get this um oh i think estelle that did that song
00:14:42.200
showed up as one of his, because he had a bunch of
00:16:06.380
What if America banned popular British people from coming to America?
00:16:30.040
I mean, I don't know if you could compare Kanye now to peak Beatles.
00:16:34.460
Well, I mean, there was that time that George Harrison wrote a song titled Heil Hitler.
00:16:42.040
It was John Lennon who had the Hitler stuff.
1.00
00:16:44.980
Yeah, I mean, John Lennon, I guess that's a good point.
0.99
00:16:47.760
Like, you could probably compare Kanye West and John Lennon.
00:16:52.340
And, like, if we would have banned John Lennon.
00:16:58.580
Yeah, he said tons of controversial political stuff.
00:17:00.960
To be fair, I think Nixon did try to ban John Lennon.
00:17:07.700
No, but I mean, I think he did actually try to do it.
00:17:10.200
Like they were trying to pull his immigration or something.
00:17:22.960
Again, like he's, there's a lot of like provocative people
00:17:26.500
on the Sgt. Pepper's album, if you look closely.
00:17:30.260
like a whole array of you know dead celebrity famous people etc here's which includes mccartney
00:17:37.760
who died in between the filming or the recording of revolver and sergeant pepper and was secretly
00:17:43.420
replaced by a guy by the name of billy shears um and because as we know paul mccartney actually
00:17:49.760
died and in a car crash and there's like secrets hidden in the lyrics okay so but here's the i
00:17:55.620
hadn't even heard this here's the thought just let go you didn't know that he died in 1966 and
00:18:00.360
was never heard of the paul is dead conspiracy no no you're even behind mike huckabee on that
00:18:06.000
one i remember huckabee actually did a whole paul is dead thing while running for president
00:18:09.980
you think it's real you actually believe it jay that paul is dead i mean i it's you just you have
00:18:17.100
to believe the the the songs it's all there it's all there it's wait which song do they say which
00:18:22.860
song do they say reveals this that has the hidden oh there's a song in uh like all of them there's
00:18:28.300
a song in the white album that is titled paul mccartney is dead but don't talk about this song
00:18:33.200
and don't tell anyone about it and just pretend this doesn't exist but it's on this album he's
00:18:37.260
dead and he was replaced by this guy so it's on the track listing i'm so tired it's the song i'm
00:18:42.240
so tired ellen uh on revolver has that at the end of it it's uh where it's like if you play it
00:18:48.020
backwards you hear you hear missing missing missing paul is dead um and and there's a bunch
00:18:55.180
of like hidden clues within the sergeant pepper album um for example on the cover of sergeant
00:19:01.840
pepper someone has like an open hand over paul mccartney's head and they say that that in like
00:19:07.420
eastern religions like um like hinduism that we know that the beatles were like heavily into
00:19:12.760
around this time they'd gone and hung out in India and um they were like tight with Robbie
00:19:18.460
Shankar George Harrison was and whose daughter is Nora Jones funny enough you know so much about
00:19:23.500
this so I guess it's really convenient in this version of the story and so that's like a sign
00:19:28.320
of death basically okay so is it really convenient in this story then that they found a guy who not
00:19:34.200
only looked like Paul McCartney but was also a transcendentally good songwriter because Paul
00:19:39.360
mccartney continued to or his imposter has continued to write songs and they've maybe
00:19:43.520
they've been well received maybe they just went through some of the like recorded tracks that were
00:19:47.840
never released and he just started releasing yeah or but if you had to explain why there'd
00:19:52.100
be a talented songwriter with the beatles what if john lennon was actually still alive secretly
00:19:57.300
and he was writing the music attributed to paul mccartney even after yeah he was so so john was
00:20:03.140
alive for a decade after the Beatles um so yeah you can see like a lot like young McCartney
00:20:10.560
so you see the hand over the head um there's stuff you know over Paul um you can see there's
00:20:18.180
what is it like with the with the doll on the far right you know there's supposed it's like a
00:20:22.980
Freddy Krueger kind of like like shears like like uh scissors I think there's something what is the
00:20:28.780
thing where's the there's like a car on the kid's um knee and that's supposed to be a reference to
00:20:35.020
the uh you know the death of paul mccartney in a car crash and and there's that song on the um
00:20:42.260
on the white album um that ringo sings where they it talks about you you know i'm so you know you
00:20:49.020
wait hold on it's um you were in a car crash and you lost your hair and you're forgetting
00:20:53.740
forgetting the big one jack you're forgetting the big one which is the cover of abbey road which is
00:20:57.920
paul mccartney is one he has his right foot in front of him instead of his left yeah so i can
00:21:02.680
walk through that i'm secretly dead so he's barefoot and yeah and he's barefoot so so the
00:21:08.680
cover of abbey road is actually a funeral procession and so uh you have john lennon is there
00:21:16.220
as the you know like the angel then and that's why he's all white then ringo star is is in all
00:21:22.920
black so he's like the the priest then paul is the uh the one being buried and then george of
00:21:29.860
course is the grave digger so him being barefoot while he's on uh on asphalt on a sunny day when
00:21:36.140
it's hot that signifies death the fact that he has his cigarette in his right hand even though
00:21:40.840
everybody knows that paul mccartney was left-handed um you know shows that it's an imposter uh man
00:21:47.100
there was something with the license plate as well that i forget um of the beetle that you can
00:21:57.940
Are you faking that you don't know because the Mormon Church was involved?
0.54
00:22:05.160
Like, I'm so disinterested in that time period.
00:22:07.640
Did the Mormon Church condemn the Beatles when they came out?
00:22:13.100
There will never be a band more popular than the Beatles.
00:22:18.900
So these are Paul McCartney's post-Beatles career.
00:22:21.600
spanning solo work and wings produced numerous hits critically acclaimed tracks check this out
00:22:27.000
band on the run the beatle maybe i'm amazed that's a huge song but here's here's the deal uh the
00:22:32.760
beatles were live and let dot 11 live and let die jet coming up the beatles did so much damage to
00:22:39.180
american the american youth how so i i just think their influence was so negative at a time that
00:22:48.000
that was an outlet for people that like were turning away from like basic
00:22:57.280
but you won't say that about Lord of the Rings,
00:23:02.720
I don't want to cause you more problems than you already have with Lord of
00:23:10.100
The same group of people in the 1960s loved Lord of the Rings.
0.62
00:23:13.900
Lord of the Rings was like the hippie Bible.
0.93
00:23:25.300
The Beatles were subverting American culture at the time.
00:23:34.080
They turned young hearts and minds away from pro-American values,
00:23:42.720
so you're saying that you know that there was a plot against paul and could be yeah he's kind of
00:23:51.840
playing into your stereotype here okay so so what's interesting is i i heard this one time
00:24:00.440
it was a cultural critic about the beatles and he was saying you know everybody wanted to hear
00:24:06.500
what the beatles had to say the only problem with the beatles is they said nothing and i think that's
00:24:13.520
kind of interesting it was sort of they said stuff obviously but they didn't really have like
00:24:18.540
something they were we're complaining that the beatles don't have like a hard-hitting political
00:24:22.940
message i feel i feel like we've got plenty of hard-hitting political messages well nowadays we
00:24:27.500
do but yeah now we have tyler's point maybe like if you have this whole sort of malaise with the
00:24:32.140
youth and turning away from traditional values and they're kind of emblematic of that into this like
00:24:38.360
ethereal nothingness that they were leading everybody yeah i would agree with that i actually
00:24:43.140
think the beatles entire vibe was like uh it was almost like don't care about things except for
00:24:50.380
your own emotions like like very self-centered think about they don't they don't really have
00:24:55.460
like you think back some of their lyrics they didn't really have anything to say they didn't
00:24:59.160
And I remember thinking that, like, some of their biggest tracks, I mean, like, I Want to Hold Your Hand, okay, that was, like, one of the originals, like, okay, it's a love song.
00:25:07.780
But, like, you keep going down as they got more, like, eclectic and more experimental.
00:25:18.260
No, there doesn't need to be, but I think it's, like, in the cultural context of the time, yeah, it kind of makes sense that they were leading everybody nowhere.
00:25:25.600
So you're saying we should have banned the Beatles from America?
00:25:28.520
a thousand percent yeah no i don't know like i don't really have strong opinions i don't think
00:25:32.900
that art needs to have a message like that i think it's it's just gonna just stand on its own
00:25:36.680
i think maybe maybe i mean i i don't think that strong of thoughts about any of this stuff to be
00:25:42.580
honest but i mean listen i i think they're very talented i think to who said it whose point there
00:25:48.760
will never be another beatles that has that sort of like cultural dominance and you know beetle
00:25:54.660
mania and all of this stuff and just the the song the songs that they have there's so many huge hits
00:26:02.640
like i just don't think we'll ever see anything like it again i just i don't know it just does
00:26:06.620
i kind of resonate with what tyler's saying on some level because it was as was a time when
00:26:10.740
kids were turning their backs on traditional values and going to nowhere it was a road to
00:26:15.220
nowhere i think lord of the rings i think lord of the rings was their favorite novel i think most
00:26:19.420
importantly was that and yes it is go look it up the hippies loved lord of the rings lord of the
00:26:25.260
rings was they they viewed the hobbits as like the pot smokers they viewed the hobbits as like
00:26:31.180
the shire was like a commune that was like communistic they viewed the mordor was like
00:26:36.540
the military industrial complex and corporate society and they had to fight against that
00:26:41.680
and it was always seen up until the movies came out as a vehicle of the left it was totally
00:26:47.460
embraced by the hippie counterculture movement yeah but then they made the movie and it was
00:26:51.460
awesome so now it's straight and right wing and awesome Zuzu's pedals donated one dollar and says
00:26:56.800
sadly the Beatles became dirty hippies that's true also Zuzu pedal earlier she said she would
00:27:02.900
she should uh we would ban Adele from the U.S. is what she said I think I think that the I like
0.74
00:27:08.380
Adele I'm pointing out everyone's hypocrisy here that if we're going to talk about the Beatles
00:27:13.800
impact on culture we should talk about lord of the rings impact on the 60s hold on hold on
00:27:18.520
can you name me jack the the drummer before uh pete best ringo ringo who pete best yeah you got
00:27:28.020
did you know that no ringo ringo ended up being there was also stew sutcliffe
00:27:33.320
huh wow i didn't know you were such a fan yeah did you know that the beatles like performed all
00:27:40.820
over europe for like years just being a kind of a journey yeah uh the cavern in hamburg germany
00:27:46.700
played in hamburg yeah lunch and that's how they got good that's how they got played every night
00:27:50.420
in hamburg every night like for hours at least that's the that's the theory from malcolm there's
00:27:54.820
actually a couple versions of like i want to hold your hand in german come give me that guy in their
00:28:00.060
hand come give me guy in their hand that you can actually get with the beetle singing it
00:28:06.700
much about the beetle did you engineer this kanye topic just so we could talk about the beetle what
0.99
00:28:11.460
is it what was the one uh uh she loves you is like she leaped dick or something like she leaped
0.99
00:28:17.820
dick yeah yeah yeah yeah okay we're gonna something like that as a clip too uh i she leaped
0.99
00:28:25.880
all right well hold on just to put a final like you know i guess point fine point on this topic
00:28:43.940
The big picture idea is, does the music you like
00:29:04.880
that was made uh it's now it's going to be able to read it i suppose but it's someone like did a
00:29:09.380
big i think they compared what your sat score your sat score average would be versus the band
00:29:15.220
you list as your favorite so where's the where the beatles at oh let's go check this one uh it's i
0.67
00:29:20.720
don't think scrolling by here you can see some of the dumb ones so you the most the most famous
00:29:26.060
most impactful band in in the history was not on this no the beatles are on that right they have
0.62
00:29:38.300
The highest IQ, the highest SAT score by a mile, actually, is Beethoven.
00:29:43.720
Some other bands that finish high is Counting Crows.
00:29:50.840
I mean, I've heard of them, but I couldn't have told you the genre.
00:30:28.080
The Beatles look like they're about 75th, 80th percentile
00:30:59.000
keep the b-roll scrolling so the listeners can see it
00:31:05.880
Argumemnon, which is an amazing username, I must say.
00:31:10.480
says that Counting Crows equals complaining rock.
00:31:37.960
I do not agree that if you like Switchfoot,
1.00
00:31:54.680
This is much clearer than the thing I was looking at.
00:32:00.300
that's weird well it's not low i think it's just like it matters on the left to right axis the the
00:32:06.320
y-axis here does not mean that's what i'm saying like why is it so left look at beyonce beyonce
00:32:10.900
is for dumb it's confirmed but anyway we did have everyone sign off their list so let's uh let's go
00:32:16.780
through it how about we do let's do tyler first because he was last getting in and you know they
0.64
00:32:21.240
say the last shall be first so we've got tyler's list what are what are his top five let me see
00:32:27.920
something corporate jimmy eat world system of a down that's not mine that's not mine it's not
00:32:34.280
no that that wasn't those aren't the ones i i didn't have the ones you circled it was something
00:32:39.040
corporate jimmy world yellow yellow card counting crows and i can't remember oh we have an inaccurate
00:32:47.220
tyler top five that's not going to cut it yeah it's it was that was all right on to the next
00:32:53.480
one all right let's go to let's go to jack's what what's jack's top five we have radiohead
00:32:58.220
the beatles okay so he loves this hippie pagan band let it be noted it's overtly pagan overtly
00:33:05.080
band david bowie definitely we've seen labyrinth that's a big movie uh david bowie i i'm into
00:33:12.860
these we have nirvana i like your list i like your list nirvana is that this is my list out of like
00:33:19.420
what's on here yeah exactly i'm a huge i'm a huge smashing pumpkins fan and i don't see the pump i
00:33:24.820
didn't see the pumpkins anywhere on there so that would be my so far to the left jack that you must
00:33:30.060
have missed it no actually they were so far to the right right they're off they're off the chart
00:33:34.540
beyond they just blew the bell curve yeah um i okay so i like radiohead i i i like some of the
00:33:41.700
beatles song i'm not like a beatles like fanatic uh david bowie i like his movies better than his
00:33:46.800
music nirvana like that metallica like that bowie's phenomenal bowie's i i got to see him
00:33:52.540
you know the thing is i just i never really i never really have absorbed david bowie but maybe
00:33:57.120
i'll have to go back and yeah all right i'm sure that's pretty high score i've heard i've heard i've
00:34:02.320
heard david bowie song all right do we have do we have an andrew list did andrew make one
00:34:06.560
all right andrew we've got bob dylan do you just love band like singers who are out of key
00:34:19.340
The guy who married me is a guy named Don Williams, me and my wife.
00:34:25.460
The pastor who married my wife and I wrote a book about Bob Dylan and his Christian faith.
00:34:33.100
That sent me down a whole rabbit trail where I started listening to Bob Dylan songs.
00:34:40.080
So I became a really big Bob Dylan song, just lyrically.
00:34:48.100
By the way, and then I ended up dating a girl when I was, I don't know, like 25, I think.
00:34:55.400
And her family house was right next to where Bob Dylan's house was in Point Doom in Malibu.
00:35:05.180
And so it's very, anyway, I just got into Bob Dylan.
00:35:44.420
I might want to revise mine. Probably because your musical choices
00:35:53.940
You literally have a lot of the same bands as me
00:35:59.500
and I listened to tons of that. You can just circle classic rock
00:36:24.620
is they did just do an updated version of the study today
00:36:36.460
you don't have it i sent it to you guys oh you guys are killing me well i'm gonna have to hold
00:36:42.320
you guys in suspense and filibuster until they have it ready to go five are the lowest iq of
00:36:47.280
all they are but there's a new number one iq spot isn't that weird though that you are you
00:36:53.160
are kind of viewed as the smartest person here and you have the lowest iq uh list i actually do
00:36:59.380
genuinely kind of like slightly dumb music i must say you like you like uh beyonce like you probably
00:37:06.220
do have the highest iq out of all of us that's probably true okay finally all right they got it
0.57
00:37:10.420
so breaking new science came in and actually the highest iq band by a long shot is megadeth
00:37:17.280
featuring dave mustaine did you we have that we have songs like he sells but who's buying
00:37:22.820
we have rust in peace can we get some megadeth yeah do uh do like symphony of destruction or
00:37:29.640
tornado of souls or something those are those are both good ones dave mustaine baby this is
00:37:35.440
shocking stuff yeah so that's like by far all the way to the right it's to the right of beethoven
00:37:40.840
even the highest iq band by a mile is holy wash metal pioneers who did that study because
00:37:47.980
okay blake is now doing air guitar well it's like there was a classic uh article in the onion which
00:37:58.780
pointed out uh humanity humanity still producing new art as though megadeth's rust in peace doesn't
00:38:04.720
already exist like really we could have stopped music like you guys are liking all these 90s
00:38:09.280
bands oh i love radio head i love pearl jam here's what happened in 1990 megadeth released
00:38:14.940
rust in peace it had rust in peace polaris holy wars the punishment do hanger 18 tornado of souls
00:38:22.020
it had all of those on one album this feels we really didn't need any more music after that
00:38:26.440
no but andrew fairly self-indulgent did you know that um do you know that the so dave mustane was
00:38:32.420
from megadeth was the original guitarist of metallica i didn't know that yes that's cool
0.96
00:38:38.340
so that is actually cool specifically if you listen to the um their first album uh kill them
00:38:43.940
all um a lot of those like songs the rips the solos um even though it's kirk hammett i believe
00:38:50.920
who actually plays on the album a lot of that was written by dave mustaine so like the early
00:38:56.360
metallica stuff and megadeth like kind of have the same origin basically but he was fired by
00:39:00.580
metallica why uh because he was kind of crazy uh drinking kind of crazy a lot of drinking
00:39:06.360
yeah i guess i guess why do bands break apart it's also why when yoko ono i bet you know all
00:39:12.060
the yoko ono lore let's see we've got i do but you know i think a lot of it's highly exaggerated
00:39:18.620
honestly i really do i think they were just burned out man they went hard for like what was it what
00:40:04.960
heard of... But Blink and Yellow Card really pull me down.
00:40:06.840
I have never heard of something corporate in my life.
00:40:20.800
I'm thinking Jack's Mannequin, because it turned into
00:40:24.820
jacks mannequin either it was something corporate chances are if i've heard any of these bands i'll
00:40:29.280
only have heard them because they were on a tony hawks pro skater soundtrack were any of these guys
00:40:33.260
on tony hawks pro skater soundtrack i don't know if any of these were i i know someone who was
00:40:37.340
yellow card my primus jerry was a race car driver yeah hold on i don't know this is all like punk
00:40:44.520
this is all punk emo corporate postal service is very where's primus how come primus isn't on the
0.73
00:40:50.240
primus sucks and it really i picked rock princess i picked yeah punk rock oh geez
0.91
00:40:56.860
uh-oh oh just blast me a punk rock wait a minute wait a minute garage band king i'm getting hit by
0.98
00:41:05.360
ads i'm just trying just getting wrecked by ads wait a minute wait a minute uh-oh i woke up in a
00:41:26.800
More to the point, I have avoided California my entire life
00:41:41.960
Actually, something corporate is actually what my wife and I danced to as our song.
00:42:04.020
so i have a theory about all these all these iqs i actually think it's more based off of
00:42:15.620
that the the time so the more popular someone was in a certain era probably made you more smart
00:42:24.180
go on so some of that 90s so some of that 90s music like pearl jam was pretty up there wasn't
00:42:32.800
it i would i would i would say it's the opposite i think that's a lagging indicator i think that
00:42:40.120
a smarter population likes smarter music so the the popularity getting of dumb music getting better
00:42:48.460
means you have more dumb people i think it could be a combination of both so you have eras of
1.00
00:42:53.780
smarter people like people were really stupid in the 60s i will say like and people were stupid but
1.00
00:42:59.900
actually the population was still like closer to a to the traditional values the things that made
0.99
00:43:05.760
america great they had like remnant smarts um so if you listen to the lyrics of like classic rock
00:43:12.400
or it you know rock in the 60s i mean it was elevated more so it was more musically complex
00:43:19.680
do you know about that they had more key changes more uh time signature changes there's more musical
00:43:28.940
variety there's more dynamic range like you'll have music that is quiet and then loud it'll have
00:43:33.180
a wider range for some reason they compress all their music like music is very refined and
00:43:38.600
simplified it's almost like it's actually kind of like what they do with drugs or fast food they
00:43:43.480
figure out how to make it more addictive and catchy yet as a result it's extremely simplified
00:43:47.480
and you don't get truly transcendent now yes now yeah yeah well it's because it's it's the
00:43:53.060
walmartification yeah of it's the big boxification of american music and it's going to be even worse
00:43:59.500
because now we can write catchy pop beats with ai and there's already hit ai music on spotify and
00:44:06.320
all of that but i think eventually we're just gonna it's just gonna be a matter of course that
00:44:09.260
the pop star is just maybe going to be a brand and you'll have a lot of ai generated fluff for
00:44:15.400
the songs on their albums because who cares like i bet i bet there's tons of ai going into k-pop
00:44:20.980
music right now but if you like caboose play to blake's point play the chain by fleetwood mac
00:44:27.960
1977 there's the dynamic range that you're talking about all over the place i think there's uh i do
00:44:35.280
think there is like sort of uh timing changes in it as well like that if you compare the chain by
00:44:42.020
fleetwood mac 1977 yeah but but i mean we're not gonna have time to listen to this like eight
00:45:06.040
Okay, so, but then there's different parts of the song is what I'm saying.
00:45:11.800
The complexity of that song will be anything modern music.
00:45:19.220
Yeah, but that actually supports the Bob Dylan theory.
00:45:27.780
What I would say is interesting, if you think of the standard song,
00:45:35.100
so many songs are basically verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge,
00:45:42.420
When you think of the songs that are most likely to top a list
00:46:02.940
All three of those are irregular progressive songs.
00:46:06.780
Progressive in terms of they just change throughout.
00:46:15.100
or it's going to be popular because like go look at like Tool for example like nothing nothing that
00:46:20.500
Tool puts out you know fits that and has tons of time changes Danny Carey you know on drums like
00:46:27.180
is known for time changes but it you know that's not like quote-unquote super popular but but
00:46:32.480
Blake's point is actually a really good one because I and I've never really thought about
00:46:36.140
it this some of my favorite songs of my favorite artists it's a good non-traditional I haven't
00:46:42.440
thought about this but it's a really like jimmy world one of my favorite songs ever is goodbye
00:46:46.280
sky harbor and it follows it's that same same thing something like top guns and roses songs
00:46:54.040
november rain has an irregular structure hammers and strings sweet child of mine has an irregular
00:46:57.940
structure now the year my favorites i'm thinking about it is still verse chorus it's just really
00:47:02.940
long some of my favorite some of my favorite songs ever have been totally right i mean that
00:47:06.800
the fact that it's really long though breaks sort of like so speaking of well like i think
00:47:11.800
it lends to longer songs do you follow that like so the irregularity creates longer songs because
00:47:17.820
they have different yeah we've got a good flow to this so to get into our third topic so you
00:47:24.560
mentioned was something corporate your dance song at your wedding or what was your first dance song
00:47:27.800
okay and was so that was that what was your first dance song something corporate hurricane
00:47:45.100
and all this stuff but I think our first dance song was like
00:48:23.880
May I Have This Stance for the Rest of My Life
0.53
00:48:29.940
weddings we have so we have to we ask that we're going to the dirty underbelly of this which is
00:48:35.660
story in the new york times where the new york times loves to write about trends that are oh
00:48:40.180
wait actually it was people mag never mind i just like to be up in the new york times anyway so what
00:48:44.840
it is is there is a new trend that they're profiling because they want it to happen just
00:48:50.160
like polyamory and it's women throwing wedding parties for themselves when they turn 40 when
00:48:56.700
they are not actually getting married so it's a fake wedding level blowout what we're turning 40
00:49:02.920
and this trend is if not sweeping america it's at least sweeping the pages of people magazine
00:49:09.480
and sweeping your timeline on x to propagandize you to prove you don't need a partner to celebrate
00:49:16.380
yourself man what you know so you're throwing like like 40th birthday parties that are that
00:49:28.300
These women devoted themselves to like corporate ladder climbing.
1.00
00:49:33.920
but they probably have enough money to throw a very extravagant,
00:49:54.200
We actually have a lot, but I think people get on me for saying that we need, you know,
00:49:59.980
I've never actually said that we need a new Franco, but man, you see stuff like this and
00:50:14.760
This weekend, I'm throwing myself a wedding birthday.
00:50:19.060
Son's husband had a manor in the British countryside for my 40th.
00:50:24.180
So I was like, how do I celebrate the biggest way possible?
0.99
00:50:43.620
Something tells me that she shouldn't be in white.
00:50:49.060
and we'll party in the living room like an aristocrat
00:51:12.160
wait why did it end with like a gay dance party
0.99
00:51:15.020
for all of her gay friends i guess wouldn't happen in a normal way i really genuinely don't
00:51:22.240
know what to make of that like if you got invited to a party like that do you go no no i mean listen
0.83
00:51:31.040
i mean it just shows where we're at culturally it just shows the you know the lack i mean this
00:51:36.000
i think we all know what charlie would say about this you know i mean it just it just shows where
00:51:41.760
at as a society and you you would wish and that people have this fulfillment that is being unmet
00:51:50.160
this this desire that's being unmet because of their own choices because they eschewed family
00:51:57.440
and marriage and child rearing and yet they still want those feelings and so they've created for
00:52:04.060
themselves this false reality of it's like the participation trophy right like you didn't
00:52:10.960
actually achieve or commit to a wedding which is supposed to be you know a union between two
00:52:17.580
individuals in the sight of man and in the sight of god and instead you are just two individuals
00:52:22.820
to be specific oh yeah obviously yes but you know two souls is what i'm trying to say and
00:52:28.320
the idea here is that it's like there's no unity there's no union at the part of this other than
00:52:34.740
like you and yourself right like that's what this is you notice there's no like there isn't even a
00:52:40.380
boyfriend there isn't even a stand-in for a husband here there's no sign of god at all it's
00:52:44.980
all just a celebration of the self well that headline from people magazine where it says you
00:52:49.580
don't need a partner to celebrate yourself yeah and it turns out there was a new york times when
00:52:53.520
we had both uh the new york times one is a wedding party no husband required yeah that is a so is it
00:53:00.200
just this gal or is this a trend it's like it's like that that movie what's the the the housemaid
00:53:06.140
right where it's just it's anti-marriage it's anti-husband it's it's all this like hyper
0.64
00:53:11.300
feminist um gobbledygook you know gaga that's just everywhere today and you know it's like
0.58
00:53:19.520
you don't need a man you could like i said you that you know going back where do we hear that
1.00
00:53:24.300
you don't need a man frozen it was a disney movie it was a lesbian making it about frozen again
00:53:29.820
lesbian propaganda here we go here we go again all i know is that um there's something about
0.73
00:53:38.220
this that i find a little bit uh like disrespectful it's almost sacrilegious because the wedding in
00:53:45.680
white 100 as you mentioned jack it's like you it's something you do have to achieve but just
00:53:51.820
basically saying to the world i don't have to achieve this to still wear white and be the
00:53:56.320
center of attention and everybody's there for me it's really narcissistic but it's and it's
00:54:01.300
self-serving but it's also just disrespectful to the institution of marriage it's everyone gets a
00:54:07.540
trophy type stuff well it's sort of like it's just anti-tradition it's it's like we feel so bad for
00:54:14.820
you uh or for ourselves that we're just going to give ourselves the things that we feel like
00:54:21.060
and again it feels very similar to also like the disney adult thing where it's like people like
00:54:28.200
living out yeah it does that's exactly right people like i don't know why that like like this
00:54:32.580
like triggered that for me but it's like people no yeah that's 100 it's the same wavelength
00:54:36.620
like the exact same way they didn't get to do it when they were kids or whatever and so like now
00:54:42.660
they're fulfilling out this like fantasy of like being a kid because what is that right that's
00:54:48.880
that's the you know millennials with disposable income who haven't achieved those life wickets
00:54:54.820
those life benchmarks and milestones that you're supposed to hit by certain ages so by that age
00:55:01.000
you you typically do have like children and you are then starting to want to bring your kids to
00:55:07.980
uh to you know do family stuff and yet you don't have that so it's this infantilization which of
00:55:13.840
course charlie also talked about the extended adolescence where where people don't leave it
00:55:19.180
and so it's like we're going to infantilize ourselves and act like we're children and go
00:55:24.180
to disney by ourselves we have a great so this 40th birthday party is very similar where it's
00:55:30.460
like you're doing something right and it's this fantasy of something that you should have probably
00:55:35.360
done at an earlier time period in your life but we've got we've got a great still omitting just
00:55:39.780
like disney like you don't have the kids with you you're doing it it makes you feel good stroking
00:55:44.580
something in your ego i i haven't seen this clip but i can tell it's going to be great and it's a
00:55:49.740
broken generation let's uh let's do number eight okay i'm about to walk down the aisle and this
00:55:56.900
moment is for every little girl and every 20 something and every 30 something that waited
00:56:02.720
their whole lives to get married and maybe it didn't work out and they still wanted to have
00:56:09.220
this moment so it's my 40th birthday tonight and i decided to throw a wedding birthday in the
00:56:16.280
british countryside in a manor it's this huge estate it's straight out of downton abbey and i
00:56:21.160
had this moment where i thought i am the first woman in 300 years that has rented this house
00:56:28.520
for herself and celebrated herself i'm gonna object in general one probably not two you just
00:56:37.760
shouldn't do a party to celebrate yourself i think in general i think it's self-indulgent
00:56:43.560
i would say probably not even if even if she was married and everything i think it would be
00:56:48.780
incredibly self-indulgent to just throw a party for yourself turning 40 or 50 i think ideally
00:56:54.760
you'd have a spouse and they would organize it and throw it for you or it could be your friends
00:56:58.900
would do it there's there's ways to do it but in general you should not throw parties that are just
00:57:02.760
i am awesome i just like i miss like a an ethic a value system in which people just get old and
00:57:10.000
they don't make it about themselves like old people acting old yeah like just just do something
00:57:17.780
more conventional and it's so refreshing now when you just see like old people becoming adults and
00:57:23.320
then they like think about the image we have of grannies you know loving grammys they still live
0.94
00:57:27.700
on a farm they're making i was thinking about this think about how that's all going to vanish
0.53
00:57:31.120
when your 75 year old grandma has tattoos and like boobs and like social media posts that are
00:57:36.820
still out there of her being a bad girl at 22 i i was thinking about this the other day so when i
1.00
00:57:41.640
was a kid when you we were all kids think about your grandma they had like bobbed hair like some
0.52
00:57:46.280
of them dyed them some of it was just gray and like those women that are now that age now they've
0.93
00:57:51.600
got like long hair it's dyed they're they've got work done they're like trying to look as young as
00:57:57.340
possible our granny our grannies like literally just look like old old ladies and it was great
00:58:03.200
that's like the golden girls thing is like they were like in their 40s and they look like
0.82
00:58:06.260
literally like like they look like this is like i am noticing the golden girls are like literally
1.00
00:58:12.000
in their late 40s and some of those those ladies they're like we thought they were like that is
0.86
00:58:18.520
that true okay so okay the characters were in their 50s and 80s blanche was roughly 53 dorothy
00:58:26.340
and rose were 55 and sophia was 79 oh wow which one was sophia oh was sophia the like really really
00:58:32.140
old one yeah yeah man i was like the mom but she wasn't that old but you know i was thinking about
1.00
00:58:36.960
with this whole thing is like how how offensive it also is to the women who don't do this right
1.00
00:58:42.700
like they have enough self-respect that's like it's almost offensive speaking of golden girls
0.71
00:58:46.960
we have to we have to say the great connection that so you know who do you know who the son
00:58:52.380
of the creator of the golden girls is scott adams close actually it's not scott adams no it's like
00:59:01.280
sam harris oh really okay interesting wait wait i want to finish my thought i want to finish my
00:59:07.700
thought on this though the women who who look at this and it actually i think this is part of the
00:59:13.520
mental illness that makes women feel bad on social media so you have one woman throwing herself a
0.96
00:59:19.420
birthday party that is meant to replicate a wedding there's plenty of women out there that
0.93
00:59:25.380
are unmarried for maybe it's not their own choice maybe they just i mean i know lots of people good
00:59:30.420
people yeah couldn't find the right guy couldn't find the right guy whatever i feel really bad for
00:59:33.640
them um but that person's seen another person do something like this i feel like makes it worse
00:59:41.420
for all those people i don't like to me it's like and this is like this is the same thing with the
00:59:46.340
social media generation this is like the disney adult thing this is about like people who do the
00:59:52.460
you know perfect perfection vacation thing that they put on social media even though you know
00:59:58.560
that's probably not true or the perfect house thing or whatever like do you remember do you
01:00:04.380
remember hanksgiving remember we did that a while back was the hanksgiving that they all had together
01:00:09.840
it was like thanksgiving oh yeah tom hanks yeah the same same thing but it's just like it just
01:00:23.400
there's a bunch of women who follow this woman
1.00
01:00:26.080
she's probably got friends she probably has a
1.00
01:00:28.120
social media following that's part of the reason
0.99
01:00:35.720
right where there's actually shame over something
01:00:38.140
and they're trying to reclaim something that makes
01:00:43.960
tradition and and i'm gonna i'm gonna be loud and proud even in my shame well that's a perfect
01:00:48.120
transition what if one of them does a like wedding level 80 000 party for their abortion
01:00:55.240
that's pretty sick that'd be i bet it's happened actually because because they you gotta understand
0.87
01:01:01.720
like the human condition we have we sin and therefore we have shame and if you don't if
01:01:06.280
you're not a christian there's no there's no mechanism to get rid of that shame and so you
01:01:10.520
try and invent human celebrations or institutions to remove that shame from yourself so that's all
01:01:17.340
this is actually it was interesting I was having this back and forth uh Jack you know Lisa Booth
01:01:22.660
right uh she's yeah Fox News so she was kind of she went on this whole thing about saying that
01:01:27.400
the problem with the right is that we make marriage and family feel like obligatory so if you
01:01:33.020
are not that you you feel ashamed or you feel like you're out of the club and if on the left
01:01:41.840
her point was that there's a bunch of women that don't feel like
1.00
01:01:54.180
by the liberal progressive society they have to feel
01:02:00.740
good things about their family because there's so
1.00
01:02:02.780
many women in culture that aren't experiencing this
0.96
01:02:08.580
But to me, it's like if we don't lift up the ideal, you're going to have a bunch of people like this 40 year old crazy lady that goes flies over and spends one hundred thousand dollars on a fake wedding for herself.
0.94
01:02:18.460
because that's no that's exactly right and and it's like again i mean this i'll like defer to
01:02:25.720
to to the man himself but ck used to talk about this a lot he said it's it's not about like
01:02:30.740
forcing anyone to make any one decision or or another it's just talking about what is the
01:02:37.040
greater societal good and we see through study after study that marriage two-parent households
01:02:44.860
that with a mom and a dad are always the best outcomes for society and so if our government
01:02:51.500
or our political movements are going to push for certain things we should always push for the
01:02:56.940
things that we know are the most beneficial pro-social things and that is a general goal
01:03:03.560
that doesn't mean it's like every person has to fit i have a catholic question for you on that
01:03:07.800
kind of same thought does the catholic church have a a strong position on surrogacy like they
01:03:13.560
don't like it and sir i mean i can't imagine they're for it i would have to check no it's not
01:03:18.400
okay catholics don't even like don't they don't like ivf either do they have a position i'm sure
01:03:22.580
catholics are against ivf to begin with so they would so they would have uh they would have a
01:03:26.740
strong position on like a gay couple adopting a kid too oh 100 against because they're against
01:03:31.660
well they're against every level yeah just double check i didn't want to like speak out of turn but
01:03:35.940
yes the catholic church strictly opposes all forms of surrogacy viewing it as a grave violation of
01:03:41.260
human dignity the integrity of marriage and the procuration process i feel the same i get really
01:03:45.900
weirded out with surrogacy and i can't like and i it's like one of those things where you're like
01:03:50.000
it's like buying a child yeah it's weird there's something weird about like renting a womb
01:03:55.600
i just find it it's weird i mean with ivf the biggest objection is that you basically make
01:04:00.940
10 human lives and throw nine of them away a bunch of them the church would still dislike it
01:04:05.800
in 2024 the church would still dislike it if you could just make one and because they don't like
01:04:11.540
the means what if you were like hey we're going to implant uh 10 embryos fertilized uh embryos
01:04:17.860
and you if you have 10 you have to keep all they still they still what if you commit as a good
01:04:24.320
catholic to saying i'm going to take all of them it's less bad because you're not throwing lives
01:04:28.000
away intentionally uh they still don't like it the the church's position is quite trad where
01:04:32.960
Basically, you should only have kids by, like, the proper natural method.
01:04:38.540
They're still okay with adoption, but, you know.
01:04:40.860
I think part of the theory with that is that there's so much, isn't it just, like, the holiness of the system that God gave us and playing God with these things?
01:04:57.440
Well, and it's also, that's part of it too, but it's also about how the church has always positioned that the procreative act should take place within the confines of marriage, that the point of marriage is procreation and children and that act of the bringing together of the mother and the father through marriage and through procreation.
01:05:20.460
And so whenever you're, you know, abrogating that process somehow or, you know, sidestepping it or whatever it may be.
01:05:29.920
So you're telling me, Jack, you could have a 40th birthday party, pretend to get married and then have a kid without ever having sex.
01:05:44.880
Before we abandon this topic, I'm looking at the New York Times article and there's something very funny I see,
01:05:48.760
which they talked to some woman who does consulting
01:05:59.440
the planning process is more streamlined than a wedding,
01:06:12.840
but you tell them it's either a 40th birthday fake wedding
01:06:18.360
get all the stuff for wedding related things but you get it cheaper because you didn't say the w
01:06:24.520
word that doubles the price of everything and then bam oh switcheroo you have a clergyman there
01:06:30.240
and you bring a guy you actually do the thing yeah you bring you bring a guy do you want to
01:06:35.980
know it's weird you want to create i don't know why this didn't make it to thought what are you
01:06:39.380
accidentally wait wait no like can i you know funny i know i was gonna say it'd be funny is
01:06:44.800
is uh what if you're having one of these like fake marriage parties but you hire the guy
01:06:48.640
right who's but it turns out the guy's like actually ordained in the state that you're
01:06:52.400
having the party in and you accidentally get actually married at like the fake the fake
01:06:58.420
marriage party and you're like wait a minute that sounds like a terrible 90s i was gonna say it
01:07:03.140
sounds like rom-com sounds like yeah like jason bateman in this like it was getting recently
01:07:08.260
convoluted and for like some dumb reason they are required to also live together for a while
01:07:13.140
okay hold on i have to take this it's gonna oh you have something i have a real i have a really
01:07:17.260
important point i'm sure and i'm sorry to offend all the women that i'm saying right now
0.57
01:07:21.660
but no man would ever do this no of course not oh wait a gay man would okay okay well no
01:07:29.420
no street be a different type of party yeah i mean speaking of which but did you know this
0.65
01:07:34.840
but but this is like but that's also it's like what's feeding the egos of women in america today
1.00
01:07:41.380
where they like feminism it's the feminism it's social media boss babe you can have it all even
01:07:47.460
if you don't have it all hey so did you guys know that minneapolis is thinking about bringing back
01:07:53.160
bath houses for the first time after a 40 nearly 40 year ban oh you really wanted to get into this
01:07:59.040
no i mean like this well it kind of made me think about we started talking about gay couples
01:08:02.580
getting uh doing adoptions they're okay so just to put this like in perspective they believe in
01:08:38.160
all u.s urban areas imagine that yeah in 1988 minneapolis passed an ordinance to ban bath
01:08:45.980
houses there were three bath houses that existed in the city hennepin baths locker room baths and
01:08:51.480
big daddy's bath house big daddy's bath all of them closed prior to the to the bad locker room
01:08:58.020
baths was known as the 315 health club at the time of closure why were they banned after the
01:09:04.920
first positive hiv test in minneapolis in 1982 concern grew about the spread of the virus so um
01:09:11.440
wait so so let me let me get this straight so bathhouses were pretty much the only place you
01:09:17.480
could go because it was so it was gay men just had sexual encounters at the back but but being
01:09:23.740
gay back in those days was like it was very taboo like by cultures cultural standards part of the
01:09:31.720
reason why bathhouses existed was because it was so taboo within the community to like just like go
01:09:36.600
like be gay in public well this yeah i don't think that's why they had those well i think it's part
01:09:41.720
of it i mean i think it's a i think they also have them met men yeah well like men met men and
0.96
01:09:46.640
then also they would have those parties and they would have sex with them five minutes after meeting
01:09:50.680
sure yeah of course behavior well that's that true but that's also like pretty pretty common
0.88
01:09:56.500
in the gay community but like like they just meet and hook up and it's a big hookup culture
01:10:01.080
but here's my question is because they have so many uh immigrants coming to minneapolis
0.85
01:10:08.360
is that the reason why they're reintroducing bathhouses because it's so uh it's it's so
01:10:14.780
taboo within these immigrant cultures to be gay that they need the bathhouses i don't know i think
01:10:20.240
it's just they're going so far left and like hiv is not the fear that it once was right um although
0.98
01:10:27.780
you know then it's going to be uh monkey pox so just to make sure people get angry did you know
01:10:33.700
that the a lot of doctors so do you guys know about antibiotic resistance yeah like we're not
01:10:38.760
supposed to just take antibiotics all the time it's a really serious thing resistant to them
01:10:42.680
and then we're going to get new super bugs and that's why we have tb that resists it did you
01:10:46.220
know that a lot of doctors will just kind of put gay men on antibiotics just a regular dose of them
01:10:53.320
like it's you know taking a daily aspirin because yeah because you know they're they're prone to
01:10:58.280
getting a lot of diseases and you know we wouldn't want them to get diseases we so we'll just uh we'll
01:11:01.760
just chip away at our antibiotic resistance so they can keep going to clubs another thing did
1.00
01:11:06.220
you know that the federal government will find like gay prostitute drug addicts and stuff who
1.00
01:11:12.600
We're at high risk of contracting HIV and we'll give them free prep,
1.00
01:11:16.200
which is the AIDS kind of HIV blocker prophylactic keeps it from developing
01:11:21.780
which costs many thousands of dollars a year to take.
01:11:37.240
it makes it a manageable chronic condition instead of a death sentence.
01:11:40.520
but they will just find people vulnerable to this
01:11:44.960
that many thousands of dollars to give it to them for free
01:12:08.600
things that happen in Lord of the Rings with that.
01:12:18.660
prescription drug coverage. So these guys are just like
01:12:38.840
It says, adult bathhouses are community spaces historically frequented by gay men
01:12:43.420
where people could also engage in sexual activity or relax after going out to the bars.
01:12:54.760
Is there a difference, Jack, between a European, Eastern European bathhouse
01:13:04.440
so i've been i've been a bathhouse in budapest yeah but it's isn't it different in the culture
01:13:09.860
surrounding it is is different or is it the same it depends some some are gay stuff and some are
01:13:15.980
i mean this is like when you go to budapest like bathhouses and um you know the ancient
0.65
01:13:22.340
it's like a hot springs yeah it's like a hot spring thing so like you go in and it's you know
01:13:28.200
it's co-ed so like i went with tanya and it's i don't know it's kind of like going to like a
01:14:28.720
and so is that the one that's like the out like it has a big outdoor pool and so if it's cold
01:14:34.360
it's still open it's still i know what you're talking about it's still 105 degrees or whatever
01:14:39.360
the temperature is of a hot spring and it's just steaming like crazy the whole time because it's
01:14:44.620
cold out and just spraying it out everywhere like a resort in the bahamas or something it's more of
01:14:49.580
like a again that that culture of eastern europe is it's it's more of like a public pool yeah this
01:14:56.360
It's more like public pools and like – and it's almost like –
01:15:02.360
We have to transition even though this is – this has been weird.
01:15:09.280
This has been weird, but we have to try something.
01:15:10.760
This could be awful, so we apologize in advance,
01:15:15.780
because we want to bring you guys into the culture of the office actually.
01:15:20.100
and Blake often comes up with random, bizarre, obscene would-you-rathers.
01:15:44.020
You know, I have one I'm just making up off the fly.
01:15:45.880
Would you rather go to one of those newly opened Minneapolis bathhouses and you don't have to do anything?
01:15:51.600
You can just kind of sit there, but you have to sit there for the whole evening.
1.00
01:15:55.320
Or go to one of these 40-year-old single woman weddings?
0.86
01:16:01.500
I'm going to go to the 40-year-old single wedding.
01:16:04.480
What if she's like insanely unwell and desolate?
01:16:11.180
There's probably free food at the wedding, so that is a good point.
01:16:20.720
There's that classic one people have asked
0.95
01:16:23.500
That's like would you rather have a gay son
0.96
01:16:48.840
I would say that's a loser behavior for both, by the way.
01:17:19.740
I would actually say loser son because I feel like that would be easier to fix than having a thought daughter.
0.97
01:17:34.800
would you rather have a canadian daughter or a i don't know where i'm going with this after
01:17:41.300
i'm just thinking about the what was it the wwi ggb oh yeah yeah yeah uh you know we had gosh
01:17:48.760
mmi oh we can't worry about that one later no so we got to split the chat one someone in the chat
01:17:54.420
says they would take the loser son uh someone says i was the loser son okay so that's that's
01:18:00.180
a good point towards getting better see you can't get better but tyler looked at me and goes
0.96
01:18:03.920
should never get scared all right all right you can't look the loser son the failed son can be
01:18:09.720
fixed i mean look at tyler like he's he's he's come so far totally a related one and this is
0.97
01:18:15.300
this one i think is really interesting would you rather have your daughter marry a muslim but it's
01:18:20.740
like a totally normal marriage they have their kids in wedlock all of that but she is married
0.99
01:18:24.860
to a muslim man or pump and dump trashy single mom you know three kids three different dads
0.99
01:18:31.200
what your daughter is the yeah this is your daughter and both of them and one of them
0.99
01:18:37.500
or we don't even we don't even need to say three it could just be what's like she's just she gets
01:18:40.880
knocked up and abandoned by the dad baby daddies or even just one she gets knocked up and abandoned
01:18:45.180
by the dad and she's a single mom or marries a guy and has kids normally but is a muslim
01:18:50.380
practicing muslim yes yeah avid muslim you go first on this one oh man
01:18:57.300
uh uh uh is she a good evangelist i'll say i'll say in this in my in my case because i feel like
01:19:08.580
the gender doesn't matter on this one you could say like son and then you know multiple women or
01:19:13.460
you know it definitely makes it worse if it's like a woman i mean it makes it it makes it worse
0.64
01:19:18.280
obviously um so wait in in this sense are the single uh are they all are they all christian
0.98
01:19:26.860
the the single relationships or whatever well i would say i i would say if she's the single mom
01:19:33.000
you can assume she is either yeah she's either christian but not following the rule as well
01:19:37.120
or maybe non-religious but the other she's she's converting to islam and oh she's converting to
01:19:41.760
islam oh then i'll do i'll do the the singles single every time singles all right or at least
01:19:46.400
or would it make a difference if she wasn't muslim but he did raise the kids muslim that's
01:19:51.020
still still single yeah i think i i definitely got to go for that one uh and did you have a
01:19:57.460
pirate a couple i had a one uh oh man what was that oh i guess is that is that not i can't
01:20:03.080
remember what the brian gnome one was it was a good one anyways this is this is uh i don't know
01:20:07.900
if do you guys want us to keep doing would you rather i can do a weirder one i can do a weirder
01:20:11.840
one no would you rather is a good in fact what we should do is we should open the would you
01:20:15.820
rathers up to like the rumble rants and so have we should what we should do going forward is have
01:20:21.980
people like when we start the uh send your best show others yes you know send us your would you
01:20:28.560
rathers and then in the last segment we'll you know we'll do them we've done a lot of musical
01:20:33.720
themed ones so i do want to do one on that on that front because we talked about this would you
01:20:37.180
rather see how he does this would you rather get a new album from your all-time favorite band and
01:20:43.640
just for the hypothetical it's it comes out it's at the peak of their quality from your point of
01:20:49.260
view and it's a 10 out of 10 album so it's new content yeah so yeah it's new so like let's say
01:20:53.120
your favorite band was guns and roses it comes out 1989 and it's 10 out of 10 and it's 12 new
01:20:59.380
songs that are as good as any guns and rose songs ever or just get rid of your least favorite genre
01:21:05.100
of music completely so like rap disappears forever i would definitely get rid of the worst
01:21:10.000
genre you would get rid of the you don't need to listen to the worst genre yeah but it's terrible
01:21:13.900
for culture there's so many bad genres though that's like just getting rid of one doesn't really
01:21:18.780
yeah like you might get rid of rap and then we just get the you know it's all r&b everywhere
01:21:23.160
or something r&b is actually great i'll take r&b over rap r&b is phenomenal i would take rap
01:21:29.820
any day of the week no way yeah rap well i'm thinking like gangster rap i'm thinking like
01:21:40.060
but maybe only gangster rap or drill rap or something?
01:21:43.640
Canadian, MMI2LGBTQIA+, or whatever it is,
0.99
01:22:06.120
Oh, you'd get over it if your Lib daughter became the president?
1.00
01:22:11.520
I'm so proud of my daughter who joined Congress and ran for president to pursue evil.
01:22:18.840
It's a deeper question than you probably intended.
01:22:25.120
I'm going to vote against having a Canadian daughter in general.
0.87
01:22:28.240
It would be funny to say, what about, like, what if you switch it up and you say,
01:22:31.700
um okay this doesn't really make sense but like what a conservative child who is not successful
01:22:41.240
but a liberal child who is successful at like liberal politics i'm gonna go conservative child
01:22:47.640
not successful that kind of took me to like i was actually right before you said that i thought you
01:22:53.380
were gonna say this is would you rather have gay child who's conservative or straight child who is
01:23:00.600
like ultra ultra ultra lib how many yeah grandchildren do they give me they both give
01:23:06.140
you the same amount wait you said gay conservative no i was asking how many the gay child who's
01:23:12.800
ultra conservative or a straight child who is ultra lib and they never change but i could get
01:23:19.020
their grandkids i could convince the grandkids they both have grandkids no no i mean i'm saying
01:23:23.580
i could even if you have a lib child you could get the the grandkids if they're married and have
01:23:29.060
kids and stuff like that you could get them to be conservative all their kids are exactly what
0.99
01:23:32.820
they are wait so the gay guy has kids they're all gay they're all gay there's a bunch of scott
0.99
01:23:40.560
presslers i'll take the lib and then the lib the lib kids are all the super lib scott pressler's
0.99
01:23:45.980
done done a lot of good things you know that's what i'm saying like there's a lot of people who
01:23:50.220
love like the the gay conservatives i don't know i don't know that's tricky this has been fun do
01:23:56.580
guys like it do you want us to keep doing it that's the question i can come up with infinity
01:24:00.780
hypos so like there's something weird about blake's autistic like hey like uh dartmouth brain that he
0.51
01:24:07.840
just like this is what he does would you rather get every single quarter anywhere in the world
0.92
01:24:11.900
that's put into a teenage mutant ninja turtles arcade game machine of which there are several
01:24:16.540
or would you rather have the teenage mutant ninja turtles be real real autism alert
01:24:23.120
yeah i feel like i feel like you don't have a soul if you don't want the turtles to be real
01:24:29.160
fighting evildoers in in new york city listen what does it profit a man to gain the whole world
01:24:33.780
but to lose the ninja turtles exactly yeah a lot of people i know they just pick the they just pick
01:24:38.960
the money i love ninja turtles because they're the only real legitimate superheroes that aren't
01:24:44.000
from a major uh company like comic wing that have survived in america oh that's interesting
01:24:52.320
They're like the only ones that actually are celebrated and been loved.
01:24:56.000
You understand the Ninja Turtles like Jack understands the Beatles.
01:25:02.880
However, though, weren't the Turtles technically, supposedly based off of Daredevil?
01:25:12.260
It was the same mutagen that gave Matt Murdock his powers
01:25:17.840
was also the accident that led to them, you know, converting into turtles or whatever.
01:25:23.040
It started as a parody, so that would make sense.
01:25:33.400
Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.
0.58