THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 123 — Doll Moms？ Immortal Val Kilmer？ Sabrina vs. ＂Zaghrouta＂？
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Summary
On this week's episode of Thought Crime, the boys discuss the latest news and notes from the White House tax filing deadline, the latest in the Trump administration's tax returns, and much more! Thought Crime is brought to you by Cracked and produced by Riley Bray.
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DNSSE specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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Welcome once again to another fascinating, enlightening, elucidating, educating episode.
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of thought crime it is thought crime thursday and we have gathered yet again in the sight of
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god and men to commit thought crime and we've got the assembled team before us however there is an
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issue with one member of our team a dark violation of the only rule that we have here on thought crime
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There are no, and for those listening, Andrew is yet again wearing a jacket.
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Sounds like you're the one we have to deal with.
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I thought it was a soccer jersey for a minute there.
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Yeah, nothing straighter than NASCAR right now.
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We got Blake Neff and the great producer, Russ.
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Tyler Tyler's you know we do have a massive event uh tomorrow here in Phoenix tomorrow
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is something going on tomorrow build the red wall is happening here in Phoenix uh 47's making his
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way out some special guest or something that's coming into coming into town do an event what
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are you talking about oh look at this Donald J Trump turns out the president of the United
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states is doing an event with turning point usa and tp action tomorrow at dream city church and
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if you want to get involved you can go to tpusa.com slash djt it's going to be at noon local time
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there april 17th wowzers this is amazing andrew what can you tell us about how this came together
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and and what what we should we expect for tomorrow well the president is making his way out west he's
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in vegas and then he's coming down to phoenix and we're building the red wall at turning point
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action so it's a turning point action event uh mostly led by and it's uh listen he's going to
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make his case for economic stuff that he's doing the president's doing uh you you were there at
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the white house this uh this week jack when they were talking about the tax returns tax returns
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record tax returns what's the number actually it's something like 40 percent or something like
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that of uh because i totally remember the number from the press conference the very important
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numbers that i that he did but no it's i think it's like 11 higher than usual was the number i
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saw that i remember correctly like higher higher tax returns than average yeah so exactly so but
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it's also i think 40 of filers are getting a record return or 45 or something so we're gonna
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be talking about that but we're also gonna be talking 47 47 47 percent that would work 45 or
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47 um anyway so real quick yeah pull it up i'm seeing that 11 percent number come in yet like
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like 11 percent higher refunds uh in just in terms of the dollar amount right so uh very very good
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news there but yeah there's a whole economic agenda i think this is gonna be like focusing
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on a lot of domestic policy i'm sure iran will come up i'm sure some of these other things will
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come up but i mean that's the goal talk about the domestic wins what he's doing for real americans
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and we're building the red wall turning point action so that the ty i wish tyler was here to
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talk about it but um you know we've got a whole plan where we're going to be putting ballot chasers
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out in the ground in specific states arizona nevada new hampshire because if you win those
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states and you hold the sun belt you basically make it pretty darn hard for a democrat um nigh
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impossible to uh to win a national election so it's uh it's a good strategy we're putting it
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putting it into effect so we're calling the event build the red wall it's going to be good we're
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gonna have uh andy biggs there wants this gamani we're gonna have uh some others so it's gonna be
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a packed event packed house and we're looking forward to it super duper cool so uh one of the
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things though that that came out and it isn't it isn't so much of a thought crime but um
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okay right i think i think taylor uh excuse me tyler is going to fly in in a minute so i'm
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trying to read and talk at the same time i shouldn't do that and um speaking of tyler's
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um huge news i know we covered this on our individual shows but just just massive news
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in the Tyler Robinson case that the ballistics report has come out.
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And this is, you know, kind of a moment, I guess I would say,
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for all of us who have been following this and, you know,
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waiting to see this report, which was done all the way back on September 17th.
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as we've talked about many times. And this is, you know, obviously something that was very close
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to all of us. And the fact that now we're starting to see because because we're getting the reason
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this is coming out now is because we're getting closer and closer to the preliminary hearing
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for Tyler Robinson, which is it's kind of crazy that that hasn't even happened yet. It's just,
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you know, compared to, you know, the way some people might be used to seeing things in movies
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or even just other states that Tyler Robinson hasn't even pled yet. He hasn't even entered a
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plea of guilty or not guilty just the way you saw systems it system works and so here we are seven
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months out it'll be eight months when the preliminary hearing takes place but that's why
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so many of these things are are being unsealed now and yeah i just just kind of wanted to take
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a moment and recognize that this is out um 30 caliber bullet fragments were recovered in uh
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charlie's autopsy and look this this is charlie's show as much as it is all of ours in terms of
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thought crime and you know we want to see justice for what happened to our friend and and there's
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there's no question about that and so you know we've always called for evidence to be released
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and now it's coming you know andrew you you know i've obviously have talked about this the most
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what you know what does it mean to you i think real quick just you know real quick that you know
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that we're actually seeing this report now yeah i mean i think back to the daily mail headline
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talked about it on their daily show and blake was part of that but it was you know really annoying
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actually when that headline came out because it was basically they have a good headline today
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though they had a good headline today i will give that uh charles sparing i think was the
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the reporter on that one he he did a he did a an honest report so credit where it's due but yeah
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i mean they said that bullets don't match the gun or whatever which was not at all what the atf
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report said but nobody had the atf report so we had to sort of like surmise certain things and we
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had a ballistics expert uh former prosecutor u.s attorney who's you know looked at hundreds of atf
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reports and he told us at the time the dog the dog that didn't bark in that defense motion was
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that the defense attorneys didn't mention the caliber of the round that was used and he was
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like i guarantee you he's like i'll put money on it that that's going to be a 30 cal and that's why
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the defense didn't even mention it so fast forward to yesterday we get the atf report that's public
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the judge moves to make it public and they they confirm yes it is a 30 caliber weapon consistent
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with the mauser rifle that was used or the suspected murder weapon right the other thing
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they confirmed was that the spent shell casing also matches the gun so while the bullet itself
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you know explodes into a number of pieces and it's highly damaged and you can't necessarily
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do forensics on it because it's too badly damaged the shell casing which was spent from the one
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fired shot does match the gun not only that the the shell matches all the other unfired rounds
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as if they were from the same box if you will for when they were when they were made so so there's
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a ton of evidence not to mention the dna evidence not to mention some of the new uh evidence that
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was released via that affidavit the handwritten letter well the the the the way just just on this
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question of the of the fragmentation you know the way that i kind of tried to explain to on on
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human events i said it's kind of like getting a partial fingerprint you know it's it's like it's
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like saying that i've got you know a little bit of a fingerprint and it looks a whole lot like
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this other person's fingerprint but because i don't have enough of the fingerprint i can't
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conclusively say it's that finger that being said obviously this isn't the only uh piece of evidence
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in the case and um you know logically speaking and and you know blake i'll just throw that to
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you real quick and i don't want to beleaguer this too much but yeah i think it makes makes sense for
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people to kind of go through the you know the evidence so that's understood you know just from
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a sense of logic right you know you know we can sort of surmise that you know through through
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the process of elimination right regarding this situation if there's one rifle and there's one
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spent round and there's one set of fragments found in the autopsy you know it the probabilities just
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kind of stack up yeah i mean well what really all of the framing as seen in the daily mail article
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as an example they always use framing in the most mendacious way possible like every single test
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they're doing could very easily if it was capable of doing so debunk the possibility of tyler
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robinson being the shooter would have been very easy to come back and say round doesn't match
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would have been very easy to produce we can conclusively rule out this rifle we can conclusively
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rule out his dna that could happen at every single step of this and instead at best they're getting
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it's it's a possibility it's 100 possible for this thing to be there and then sometimes we're
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just getting outright matches we're getting very direct evidence we're getting these letters we're
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getting the engravings we're getting eyewitness and of course on top of this something we shouldn't
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forget we have the fact that his parents literally turned him in and it's happening every step of the
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way and it's important to see this but it's also important not to ignore what has been going on
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here which really i think people who know that the evidence in this case is overwhelming are
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running with this sort of nonsense that the daily mail did to try to introduce skepticism and doubt
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ooh, there's a market for this conspiracy nonsense,
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But one actually the one thing I would like to say, I guess, about the original Daily Mail headline that we're all talking around is that, you know, and Blake, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it's the way to look at it is the bullet does match the gun.
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the case because no no the bullet fragments do match the gun right what we're saying is they
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can't be definitively uh tied to that only that gun right you can't exclude all the other guns
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but it does include this gun so this actually does count in this gun we're not saying that
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i think that's an important distinction only gun that could have fired it but it is matched to the
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gun yeah well because a lot of a lot of people you know say that oh it couldn't have been a 30
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odd six because that's too big of a round that it would have the damage would have happened there
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would have been an exit wound whatever what this atf report says is it was a 30 caliber round which
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is a 30 which is a class so it's matched to this class of gun which includes this gun so it is
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matched it's just not matched to only this gun get it yeah no exactly and in the other part that
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people need to understand that there's different types of projectiles i've had to you know learn
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some of this stuff just in the aftermath but you know there are full metal jackets hunting right
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i yeah i grew up hunting and all that stuff but you know i'm not i'm not when you're a kid you
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know dad kind of yeah exactly i'm not like i'm not i'm in no way shape or form a ballistics expert
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or something like that we you know we bring them on the show because they have interesting things
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to say and they can add light to this but what i will say is there's different types of of rounds
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right there's full metal jacket that are that is designed to go straight through things right uh
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there is hollow point right and which is designed to disperse in the body it's supposed to be for
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hunting you know you kill an animal quicker right uh and there's usually not it's for it's an ethical
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kill yeah ethical call so these are things that you kind of learn other things that determine
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the what happens when a bullet hits uh in this in this case a human body or bone or tissue or
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something is you know the age of the bullet the grain of the bullet uh these kind of things can
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determine a lot of different things so um anyways you know the fact that the bullet uh you know
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broke apart is very telling of what kind of bullet is probably a hollow point i don't i don't know
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that any report has has confirmed that or excluded that but that would be the assumption i haven't
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seen that yeah i haven't seen that specifically stated but this again this is just a preliminary
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report so you know it's a big moment because this is the first time we've seen an official report
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but this isn't even the full report yet correct so anyways it was nice to at least have the judge
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uh release uh agree to release this and you know it's it's pretty i mean what we had a guy named
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jay town on the show and i've seen him on twitter he's really good yeah he's very good and he
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basically had this comment i wish i could remember maybe you do blake but he was basically saying
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okay you only have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in trials like this okay he's like but this
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you you combine all the different pieces together this is not just beyond a reasonable doubt this
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is beyond statistical probability models like this is yeah that's what i was saying about
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probably like the probabilities are just stacking upon each other that okay and this person and this
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one and he was in aurem and and and you know you're you're just you're getting to the point
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where you know it's it's we had tom sour on um my my friend from um you know eod special operator
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served together and you know he was saying it's it's just it's statistically impossible that's
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what he just that's the way he put it it's like it's just statistically impossible because so for
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tom what what he would do in eod and and you know i was the intel um uh intel analyst and then later
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intel director in the unit was you know once you once you find like bomb fragments you know so then
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we would have to tack you know track back okay you know who made this bomb are there fingerprints
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is there dna is there are there precursors are there specific you know parts of it that we could
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tie to a specific group or like a you know if it was a rfied which is a radio frequency you know
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can we tie that to a specific type of casio watch and who uses that watch is a big thing with terrorists
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and so and on and on and on so it's it's similar work that he's done in the past and he was just
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saying look you know when you get to this point it's it's just statistically impossible to say
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that that this wasn't what happened yeah i think i think that's my read on it and there's you know
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there's a gal named andrea what is it beckhart burkhart oh yeah she's been excellent just the
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best yeah she's not she's not like on one side or another she's just talking about the case
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no and she's covered a lot of these trials and she's mocking a lot of like commentators that
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have no understanding of the legal process which i find enjoyable and in my in my from my perspective
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so yeah she's been really good she was the one that uh actually i first saw reporting on this
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and it's since spread far and wide which is good uh russ let me get you in on this because uh we
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haven't had you in yet before we move uh move topics um yeah i just i think it's it's going
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to be interesting to see how this all plays out and it's going to be i'm just glad that you know
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we're covering it as extensively as we are and just trying to bring actually one real quick
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if you could comment maybe the one thing we haven't talked about is that tomorrow uh tyler's
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back in court for the hearing on cameras yeah so how important is it you think that you know that
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this thing is is televised i think i think it's really important that it's televised i think
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transparency is ultimately key um and the best way for things to be transparent is a live feed
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um yeah there's secure there can be security issues with that kind of stuff but i think um
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i don't i don't see that happening here and i think it's a good thing to have it on camera
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um think about all of the the weird conspiracy conspiracies that come out with other cases that
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weren't televised or whatever so yeah yeah we need this thing public let it let it out
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public and and let's get it out no man it's good need the cameras in there get them on turn the
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cameras on but um sometimes russ you mentioned live feeds speaking of public segue into our next
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our next segment here because sometimes uh when things are caught on live feed you can catch
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actors and celebrities and singers doing things that they might not normally say or do and
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occasionally you catch their authentic reactions isn't that right blake that's right that is and
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that's why we get to all enjoy the saga of sabrina carpenter versus the however you do that i can't i
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can't do whatever strange chant these people do no you do do that you do you do that like all the
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No, Blake, you've done that multiple times on air,
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What happened here with Sabrina Carpenter?
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I'm told Sabrina Carpenter is a popular musician.
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I don't listen to any music made after the year 1991,
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I also don't really go to California, so I'm really not in the sweet spot for this story
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in the slightest, but this person I'm told is popular went to this concert I'm told is
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popular, and she got in trouble because one of her fans was making noise, and she didn't
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i don't like it that's your culture is yodeling
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is this burning man what's going on this is weird
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man she said she actually said i don't like it yeah oh that's yeah i missed that earlier i don't
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like it so that's very telling explain who that was in the audience so the who that was in the
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audience she was apparently someone of maybe middle eastern extraction i'm not sure if we've
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identified a specific person yet but zagruda she was doing yeah it's called a zagruda which
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i had no idea there's a name for it and yeah she says it was her culture it's it's an expression
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of her culture to be really annoying at concerts and if like how's it go again uh well let's see
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well clip 15 will tell you exactly how yeah yeah i'm gonna defer to the clip here play it 15
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yeah i don't like it either i only clipped eight seconds of that because i i knew none of us wanted
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to listen to that any longer uh that is the most annoying thing in the world but like you know
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what's interesting about it is that the the you know without having any filter she was just like
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i don't like it and i think that's like a really interesting part of this whole thing she wasn't
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trying to be bigoted she just was like i don't like you making that noise but so so right so now
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you know without even having to look but i did look but without even having to know she has of
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course come out and apologized and i believe i believe she said something along the lines of
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like i'm really sorry because i thought the person doing it was white no she didn't say that but she
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probably something along it seriously it was did she say that so she did issue an she issued this
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apology uh shortly after it happened and she said my apologies i didn't see this person with my
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i should say she was replying to someone she was replying to someone named poppy said sabrina
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she couldn't see that she was part of, you know, a group
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that it's not okay to make fun of. That clearly means
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what is a gruda is unspoken and i can hate it with every fiber of my being i welcome all cheers
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and yodels from here on out yeah yodels i uh let's go around the corner do you think she
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means race there because i'm saying i'm saying she thinks she means race i did when she says
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that i couldn't see the person yeah i think she's inferring like yeah i couldn't see that it was
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it's definitely if it had been i i couldn't see that it was somebody that came from a different
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white people imposing their loudness on the dignified silence of other cultures why white
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people need to shut up and sit so funny enough um so sabrina carpenter is from like not too far away
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from me in uh in pennsylvania she's also pretty close to where um uh taylor swift is from and
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like i swear like we're all from this like one corner of southeast pa and um just a few miles
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down the road from quaker town pa is of course newtown pa where we got to find out recently that
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there is an isis cell that was like bombing gracie mansion in new york so it's like i don't know like
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30 miles or something and it so it's like it may not be part of your culture but it is coming soon
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to your town sabrina carpenter it's coming soon very very very quickly and like that's i don't
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know there's just something about that tied myself and just the area is changing right but but i guess
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the thought crime here is like i'm just going to come out and say it i'm on sabrina's carpenter's
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i'm on sabrina carpenter's side on this one i think it's weird i i think it it sounds odd i
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think it's off-putting um it's it's just not part of our culture and you know it's shrill it's just
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shrill and sounds kind of nasty and i think it's totally fine for sabrina carpenter to have that
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reaction that was her honest reaction okay we have a great follow-up to that then now i'm a
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little annoyed i have to play this because i've actually gone through this entire story and my
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entire life i don't actually know what genre of music sabrina carpenter plays i i don't know a
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single song and i don't know anything but apparently we're about to learn it because
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this is a sabrina carpenter music video that i'm told will be very educational about you're not
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You're not going to play the Catholic one, are you?
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What Catholic church let her shoot this in there?
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No, this was a whole thing where, like, the priest got in big trouble for giving approval to this.
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And, like, you know, they kind of approached, like, through, you know, surreptitious means
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and, like, didn't explain what they were planning to do.
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It's crazy that she goes through her whole apology for yodeling.
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So it says in the thing that it's a murder fantasy
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I did see the sort of kind of movie caskets in the background,
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I've never knowingly listened to a Sabrina Carpenter song.
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that this church actually had to be re-consecrated after this?
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Yeah, and the Monsignor got stripped of his duties
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at Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Church in Williamsburg.
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This one tweet, though, like, look at how these people react to this.
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i used to be a huge sabrina carpenter fan and now she's mocking my culture and calling me weird
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this is so racist and inappropriate and it made me feel uncomfortable this white blonde racist
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woman should be canceled that sounds like a satire maybe i'm not sure that's a real one i mean
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i didn't know that's how those people talk we know yeah well yeah even if it is satire it's
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like kind of funny but it does sound too on the note we have we have a bigger thing that we should
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hit though which is if going is a culture is that just objectively yeah no that's what i was
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gonna say is that it's weird and it's okay to think that it's weird because it's totally weird
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no it's not weird i'm not saying it's weird i'm saying it's bad yeah it yeah i think it's a i
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think it's like sort of reflect reflection of the entire culture but we do weird and bad things too
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and intrusive of others you know personal space while you're in public it's just that's that's a
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total third worldism and i'm not saying there aren't americans that don't do that but i'm saying
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that the vast majority of people from third world don't have any problem with this reminds me of
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like reminds me of like getting on a bus in china um and you know i so i used to ride the bus to
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work in china and i you know would would go on and when you're getting on they don't do like
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lines like like the concept of getting on a line is very western and in china you get on you get
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the doors open and then you just push there's a massive people yeah yeah and and it this could
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be like little old ladies or whoever and they just they just they will just start pushing you
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and i'm like whoa the first time it happened i'm like what are you doing like excuse me i'm standing
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here like and i could say it in chinese as well uh well and i'm like wow wow seriously and that's
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our culture and just be loud with and then eventually eventually i learned you just gotta
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you just gotta kind of like they push you and you just gotta like fend them off like you just gotta
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fend them off and get on the bus or they will push you until you don't make it you know well
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and it's like that's just how they run their country it's an interesting social tech thing
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Like if you go to, for example, I mean, actually in the U.S., we're pretty good about when you get to a station on train, for example, the people get off and then other people get on.
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It's like that in South Korea when I went there.
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And this element of social technology just didn't take.
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And it's just, OK, everyone run into each other.
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and just try to push past each other there's absolutely no upside to doing this whatsoever
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and it leads to people being unable to get on or it takes extra time but no we're just not going to
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have people get off and then others get on that's really interesting i haven't appreciated that about
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our culture and i i do appreciate it well i've got another thing for you to appreciate about our
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culture uh so we're talking about whether it's deafening or has appreciation for being quiet
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during the concert or during the movie for instance
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yeah that headline's trying to like make us feel bad about liking quiet things and i i'm wondering
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what the is it just because this person is obviously has an affinity for her own louder
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culture that she's upset with white culture basically is that what i'm yeah basically i'm
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scanning through it because she's talking about her uh dei uh enabled journey to an ivy league
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college. And she's, she's experiencing culture shock there because she shows up and people don't
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want her making tons of noise all the time. But actually you guys should debate this. Cause I
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want to read through this and find like the best quote. And I'd forgotten from it. Uh, one day when
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I accidentally sat down to study in the library's absolutely quiet room, fellow students shh'd me
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into shame for putting on my Discman with our Discman. I don't know how you ever say these
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things my her walkman basically with rare exceptions like saturday nights during rush
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silence like blanketed the campus in the library yes she she was she was upset that she was told to
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not make loud noise in the library i soon realized that silence was more than the absence of noise
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it was an aesthetic to be revered yet it was an aesthetic at odds with who i was who a lot of us
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were it's actually kind of funny i noticed this with um and i'm not gonna say like it's like
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younger people but speaker leaving their phone on speaker with no headphones like walking around
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the house and like talking on speaker and then telling you like i was like with my old roommate
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like i would be literally in the living room watching tv and he's walking around the house
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with speaker and then all of a sudden it's like
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I guess I'm not sure if this is a woman because
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I don't know what the gender of Hokito is but I assume
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it's a woman. Within a few weeks the comfort that
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at a time. The passive-aggressive signals to wind our gatherings down were replaced by point-blank
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requests to make less noise, have less fun, do our living somewhere else, even though these rooms
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belong to us too. A boisterous conversation would lead to a classmate knocking on the door with a
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please quiet down. A laugh that went a bit too loud or long in a computer cluster would be met
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with an admonishment yes she's right this you are sharing a common space that's called that's why
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you should pipe down yeah that's why we call it common decency common consideration that's really
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annoying i i already think i probably don't like this person it took me years to understand that
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in demanding my friends and i quiet down these students were implying that their comfort
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What do you mean? I think it correlates with whether you have
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noise or sound like white noise fans apps rain sounds or music to fall asleep and so but like
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that wasn't around you know earlier like like before we had phones or before or like before
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we had like the phones that had music on them and all of that like i also think people just get used
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to what they get used to i don't think you have to ask like i don't know that i read too much
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I was gonna say you actually set the sleep timer
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he lives his life one quarter episode at a time
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so no reason, don't worry, there was probably never
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ever make a comment about the Sabrina Carpenter
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he's commenting on everything else, so he probably
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ought to but i don't believe it did and i think that video did that video come out under the
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previous pope yeah i think i think it did you know what came out before the previous came out
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what you know what else came out before the previous uh during the previous pope that would
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be muslim on christian violence that's true there is a lot of that that was that debuted a whole
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1400 years ago yeah so and it's been going strong ever since sure has and you know pope francis did
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It came out right around the election, actually.
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you know what a lot of them were probably doing?
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do it again. I don't like that. I myself am doing it.
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overtly pagan. I think you need to get t-shirts made.
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wearing a t-shirt, though, is that when you wear
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yourself with the slogan. So if I wore a t-shirt
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would mean like you are pagan if you're wearing it which means i could just like so you just need
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the shirt to say overtly that's all you needed to say yeah maybe that's your new like brand jack
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overtly i don't know i don't know just change it overtly christian there you go christian would be
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great yeah there you go yeah because if anybody reads the shirt then they could jack is it true
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that you've considered legally changing your middle name to overtly is it true i've considered
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So I wasn't going to change my middle name because I'm the third, and so I don't want to break the chain there.
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But I did consider changing my confirmation name to St. Overtly.
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And unfortunately, we don't have a St. Overtly yet, so it's something I'm working on submitting to the Pope.
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I'm just going to say you don't want to change it because you're a third, but I don't think there's any name police making sure that you're actually the third of anything.
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to i'm a fourth mexican he's my family my heritage and my son by the way because i
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didn't break it yeah you could you could name wait a minute your son wait a minute
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jack wait a minute so back the 10th speaking of children and speaking of our progeny and our
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heritage i feel a segue coming on here folks there's a new trend so we actually got i think
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it's the first time that so tanya tay who's an avid uh thought crime fan and for the record she
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listens every she has listened to every single show of thought crime which i don't think she's
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something she could say for uh human events daily but that's okay um because we do that show every
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single day but she loves this show she loves thought crime she's listening to every episode
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um there's a lot of people that love thought crime by the way that i don't know what it is
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but this show always like we saw that at invest last year yeah and that we have a lot of uh we
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have a lot of people that watch just this show which is not because you should know that was
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a star wars that was i was just like yeah star wars is fake and gay next question um um and
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and so tiny tay was listening to our gosh what was it last week the the fake wedding right we're
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doing the fake weddings oh yeah the 40 year old woman that it was single 40 year old wedding or
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something it's like the birthday wedding to nobody so she told me something that she saw
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that that reminded her of that's actually i'm going to say it i think this is even worse than
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that it's called doll moms have you guys heard about this now i have yeah i only did because
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yeah blake had heard of it and then we started looking up some some stuff um apparently it's
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it's just that it's it's doll moms it's it's women in like their i guess i'm in their 20s
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in their 30s maybe maybe higher than that where yeah they um they don't have kids so they have
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these dolls which is like something they used to do in home ec right remember they used to like
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make you bring the doll home and for like young girls and then like you have to feed it and give
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it the bottle etc etc to kind of like teach you how to have a baby um probably probably don't do
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that anymore and if they did they'd probably make the guys do it too and now they do the same thing
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with like an interactive doll let's play clip 18.
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so for those listening this is a doll she's she's putting a diaper she woke the doll up when it
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cried she's putting a diaper on the doll i'm just putting it on a onesie
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these are like really oddly lifelike dolls like that's actually kind of one of the weirdest parts
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of this what are those things made is that like a rubber yeah it's like a silicone it's it's i'm
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like if you told me that was a real baby i'd probably just say okay yeah okay
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this is this is the this is like a horror movie this is straight up isn't there a movie called
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chucky like like like my goodness but it's not it's not just chucky though because it's like
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this is the heart that you know the horror here is that these women are treating these dolls like
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they're real and the dolls not also i have so many questions i don't know who knows the most
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about this topic but is this woman like somebody that wanted to be a mom and has never been able
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to is she infertile is she unmarried and like what's the backstory here what drove this no
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i don't think so i don't yeah it's just they're treating there's more there's more
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clip nine we have another one clip 19. is this a different lady
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clip 20 clip 20 is the other one too with the morning routine look at this goodness yeah this
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is insane she's got so wait a minute she's got like four dolls in this one that's oh my gosh yeah
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Yeah, she has like actually for ages different age dolls. That's real food. She's giving the dolls. Yep
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My goodness that she was packing the she was packing the school bag teeth
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To brushing their teeth. I love you mom. They have words
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I think I couldn't figure out with that clip if she was saying I love you mom like in her own voice
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okay I couldn't tell it's crazy horror film stuff I'm gonna tell you something
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right now if you find a guy who has one of these things just arrest him right
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away yeah pedo man oh they're posing with him to make it look like he's
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walking up they were like fake walking him why would you produce real I mean if
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The cat was like, I don't want to be around this thing.
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And then later in the clip, we had to cut it just for time's sake.
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But she put him in a bassinet and went on a jog with a baby stroller and everything.
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Our team is saying, this woman should not be trusted around real children.
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This woman should also not be trusted around real children.
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To be clear, by the way, we were taking clips from two different women.
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I could have some grace on this it would still be weird
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not something I would recommend but like okay
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if one of these ladies maybe had a child die okay like that's weird but i would at least be like not
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want to be cruel like this is like i hear you on that but keep in mind andrew they're not this
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isn't something that they're just doing for like simple like like like emotional coping they're
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filming this and putting it on tiktok for the specific person it depends so some people do
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just buy them although it would still bother me kind of in the same way that like when people
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would propose the you know creating an ai version of of charlie for instance like you can't you
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shouldn't make an artificial version of a person so you still it might be understandable if that
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was the case but yeah all of this yeah in this case this i think the second woman in particular
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she does a bunch of these and she makes apparently two hundred thousand dollars a year posting tiktoks
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of herself with fake children now at least uh she apparently has five adult children so maybe she
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just decided to keep being a mom once those kids left so maybe it's kind of like one of those
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empty nester things like because and jack you probably i mean you when your kids start growing
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up it happens really fast and you're like you know this is it's really fast like should you
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have another one or something but if you're past that point in your life where you can't have more
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kids you may just want to keep the like youthful interactions going by dolls i guess would be the
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psychology i make more money now than i've ever made she told the new york post uh late last year
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more than my husband and i have ever made combined and it's all through my doll videos
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dang man the incentive structure of social media is like it's truly causing that actually you know
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that raises a worthwhile question because at that point it's more that
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So it seems more disturbing that there's an audience for audiences than
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So some of it honestly could just be being done because she's making
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And, you know, other, other social media is like the Instagram, whatever.
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So, you know, she could just be doing this for the money.
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Would you, if someone approached you, let's just say Elon Musk came in.
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I will pay you a million dollars a year to make that reborn doll content.
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Full-time you wouldn't do it. No, what about ten million dollars a year? Well, I mean
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Married by the way, you know what pay off my mortgage, you know, it sounds great
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Here's the thing though with content like this. I don't maybe it's just women but
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But when they post content like this, most people, if they think it's weird, just keep swiping.
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It doesn't turn into a big cultural point or anything.
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But then one dude starts posting about Pokemon cards or video games or an unhealthy obsession with movies, and all of a sudden it's a culture point.
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so it's like what's the where's the why is why is there a double standard on this because it is
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weird it's like we need to be calling these people out for this man for their mental illness i so i
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i'm now i'm going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole so right now i'm on the subreddit
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somebody there's a subreddit there's a subreddit well hold on there's a subreddit devoted i'm
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telling you there's a baked in audience here that she's it's a subreddit reborn dolls it has uh
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they have a mental illness and can't get a partner
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my reborn not only helps ease the pain of not being able
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the people who have dumb emotional support animals so like emotional support this is worse
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snakes or something that they bring on this is worse because it's it's trying to it's it's trying
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to be something that it's not whereas it's if it's a snake it's still a live animal so there's like
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there could be quote-unquote therapeutic look at this one uh this is so i went to reddit
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this is terrifying hi i am bringing home a sweet little boy this weekend he is made from vinyl
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has a cloth body and weighs four pounds four ounces and my spouse and i are adopting him
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from a vetted artist from reborn.com and he is lovely she's a local artist and she is the
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sweetest woman i told her our story grieving parents of many among other physical health
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issues that left me extremely early onset premenopausal i'm not even 24 yet and she is
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letting us make a deposit on him and letting us pay the rest next week so i can have a baby
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love to hold because i'm going through it and it's bad so it is a like it's basically like
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emotional support uh i want to know that leads to mental but listen to this next question i want to
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know what is the best way to keep him safe how to sleep at night how can i warm a bottle up when i
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plan to use cornstarch and lotion or what or lotion or water do i have to mix it every time
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i'm gonna warm my menstruation crustacean a bit to let him be not cold is that gonna hurt him
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chat help i want out i want out this is this is all wrong this is all wrong and i'm gonna tell
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you something right now this is this is not how you get over something emotionally because you're
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not getting over it you're not actually dealing with it you are wallowing in the despair you're
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it's great i think it's and you're you're yeah you're you're not dealing with it and you're
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acting as if like it didn't happen and it's imagine imagine i hate to say this i really
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hate to say this but i'm gonna say it that imagine if you have other kids right real kids
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and they see mom spending all this time with the doll what does that do to them what does that do
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to them there's a dickens novel i think it's great expectations and where there's a subplot
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Yeah, there's an older woman, and she was abandoned.
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I think she was basically abandoned on the day of her wedding,
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and there's a twist, basically, where she's kept this room
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that's now covered in dust exactly as it was the day she was going to get married.
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Like, she has the dress, and I think she even gets dressed in it.
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Oh, yeah, doesn't she even make Pip, like, dress up the way the man would have?
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But same phenomenon that is attachment to something that is not real
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And, oh, this is really giving me the key to G.
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saying, hey, make sure you get it from the authentic site,
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For sleeping at night, make sure his limbs are covered.
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The creepiest thing on this Reborn Dolls subreddit is they aren't saying my doll.
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For sleeping at night, make sure his limbs are fully covered.
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A sleeper with footies and fold-over mitts or regular scratch mitts will do.
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Avoid dark colors and dark blankets and sheets as they will stain the vinyl.
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she has transfer in common unless you take pre precautions i guess look before we go before we
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go to the next the next yeah i need out of the matrix on this one topic here i'm just gonna say
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it right i'm just gonna say it we we talked about it at the at the top of the show you know there's
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a guy who's supposed to be co-hosting the show who's not here you know and all of us have
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experienced that loss directly and i'm gonna tell you right now like you you can't fall down that
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hole of trying to pretend like charlie's still here in you know a physical sense at least that
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he's still you know a part of everything oh and we could do that we could have made a charlie kirk
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ai and and had to do a show every day based on whatever the news of the day was and and you know
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blake could have prompted the you know something and written it up or whatever and and we're not
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going to do that we're just not going to do that like that that would be completely wrong to to
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charlie's memory and and also it would be unhealthy it would be unhealthy for all of us
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to to try to play along like that to it's you got to get over things and and don't get me wrong like
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there's there's always going to be a big part of me that never gets over that that never like it's
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never going to leave you you know it changes you like not it's grief or something like that but
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you have to accept it because if you don't accept it you are going to be living in anxiety and grief
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forever yeah the only way through is through yep yeah look at this though there's so many
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comments on the side of going through hell keep going here's a here's a question to that point
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now like like what does that mean for ai and the use of movies entertainment and so forth
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we have the story i'm trying man we're segway so aggressively i teated i mean i thought i teated
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i caught it there's a new movie coming out it is called as deep as the grave and it is a movie
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that stars a person who has not been with us for over a year at this point it stars the late and
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ai de-aged val kilmer aged him too i i believe so uh he definitely doesn't look like this was
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gone let's play the trailer before he died 21. no full ai wait wait
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so this what we're watching right now is ai val kilmer it's not it's not being released
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They go, some stories are too hidden to be found.
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don't fear the dead and don't fear me that was val kilmer at the end that was
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don't fear the dead and don't fear me i don't like it i i don't like it caboose is very anti
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uh ai so that's why no i will say he had apparently agreed to do this movie
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back when they first began production in 2020 or so and then he was diagnosed with cancer so i think
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he had to pull out yeah as you can see if you saw top gun he had the cancer there that it actually
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had to ai generate his voice in that didn't he get cancer like before that because anyways well
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yeah i mean he got they were filming this movie in 2020 during covid jack hold on a sec and then
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he died in yeah a year ago almost exactly uh and filming took place in new mexico and arizona
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likeness of val kilmer as father fintan hmm it's barely based on the truth can we throw the shot
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up again though because i just want to explain this for the audio uh the benefit not not not
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the top gun the actual the ai one um and i want to explain this for the audio only audience if
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you're listening on the podcast it looks exactly like him it doesn't look like ai at all there's
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no artifacts here you would have if you hadn't you know known you know i break the fourth wall
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etc like if you had never heard that val kilmer died you would have no idea it looks exactly like
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val kilmer it is 100 perfect so i don't know at a glance did they how much ai is it like did they
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do kind of the green screen like they had a different person play him yeah i don't i don't
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know i know like when when we were looking it up is like the whole film is is normal it's just
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Val Kilmer that's being AI'd but it's kind of funny if you when like watching the trailer
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the trailer does look very AI like it was one of those things like the very front half if we want
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to play it as just b-roll the very front half of that trailer uh looks very much like I had to do
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a double take because I was like is this just an AI film um so yeah yeah I had that thought I I saw
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the new Mario movie last weekend because I was dumb and during the film before the film they
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played a trailer i guess they're making a he-man and the masters of the universe yeah and i literally
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had to google and i was not the first person to search this because it auto-completed is the new
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he-man movie ai because the trailer was so aggressively disorienting and kind of fast
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paced and bad it looked like an ai generated because so there's a there's a there's a difference
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that i'm not sure even has a distinction here because we're talking about cgi and cgi has been
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around for a long time and so and cgi has started to look just more and more terrible as the years
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have gone by too well not this this i mean that's why i'm saying is like the first the start of this
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and i don't know if they put it under like an ai i'm just talking i'm just talking about no this
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looks amazing you're right it looks amazing and that that is it is just a form of cgi so ai
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generated is what i'm saying is it's just a form of a computer generated image so it's not and i'm
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just saying that it's not the first time that we've seen computer generated images in film it's
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probably just the most you know the stark um you know uh uh example of this but russ wasn't they
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didn't they do this with princess leia in one of the um disney star wars movies yeah she died uh
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carrie fisher died she died midway through the last jedi yeah she died right after trump got
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elected and we had to go through that whole thing where they were like nah how can we face this
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but that is absolutely cgi like that is cgi i'm saying but it's not but star wars didn't use
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star wars only used cgi they didn't use they weren't using ai the way i think i don't i don't
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so what like that doesn't that doesn't make much of a difference the whole idea is i argue that's
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not making a difference it's just a different tool but the the real question here is okay
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val kilmer passed away we know that val kilmer intended to perform in this film they
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um you know i think we can infer that they would have used the de-aging on him because it's like a
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movie that takes place in two timelines so you know what do we think about i'd love to throw
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this to the chat do you know what do you think about that i'm gonna say right now um i i don't
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have as much of a problem with it as i thought i would i think it looks cool well it helps that
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that his he wanted to be a part of the film that he was already cast in it and his daughter
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his daughter's blessing it and said that val kilmer was always into emerging technology and
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thought the story was really important let me throw let me throw another variable in this bruce
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willis i mean they got a lot of content of that guy too so so are you familiar with the status of
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bruce willis uh i know he he is bruce willis yeah bruce willis is still alive but he had to leave
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public he's still alive he has like a degenerative mental condition and so he can't make movies
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anymore and yet his family's you know taking good care of him etc but you know he can't do
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he can't do any films but what if you made another diehard with like a completely healthy
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bruce willis that was made using this process i mean it's one thing if bruce willis sort of
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i don't know if he's cognizant is he is he i don't think he is not based on i think he's gone
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i think he's gone gone yeah he's kind of gone i i think that in that sense he does if maybe he's
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made some decisions but when he was of sound mind mind to say that you can do this and his family
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could follow through that but i think that's the linchpin here for me the not feeling i think he
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did actually now that i think about it um i mean so we're starting he did in 2021 sorry he did
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actually um in 2021 bruce willis worked with ai firm deep cake to create a digital twin uh for a
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commercial and used images to superimpose his likeness and you know it so so he did it for a
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he did it for a commercial before he you know it's aphasia is what he has and this was before he had
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succumbed to it and so there haven't been any agreements beyond that commercial but he did
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agree to it for one commercial at least here's what i'm gonna say on that on the using deep fake
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ai or cgi for actors if it is purely ai i think it takes away some of the
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the specialness of creativity and um and art yeah of course um and so in my i still would rather
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a actor be recast i a perfect example the hunt for golem they just announced that they're
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recasting vigo mortensen as aragorn with a younger actor um i would still rather give amen uh give a
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i would still rather give an actor an opportunity to act rather than just being like hey we're
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gonna have die hard die hardest with ai's you know bruce willett die yet harder still
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die in the matrix no i'm so torn on this pause uh because like i get russ i get what you're
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saying because if like if you freeze all of society um actually uh uh if i remember correctly
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there was a um like i don't know if you remember there was a star wars eu novel about this where
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like everyone on the planet was a clone they decided to like freeze their society at one
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point in time and then everyone was a clone of someone who had been born in that generation
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so i'd be meeting like blake 82 and like you'd be talking to jack 51 okay you know and you just
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like added the number at the end i don't know that one that sounds almost like a star trek episode
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but i want to say it was star wars i could be wrong i thought it was a star wars eu episode
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or eu novel and and the problem with the society was like as much as they loved their people right
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it was that to russ's point they it was frozen like it was it was like frozen in time and so
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there was no innovation there was no continuation there was no personal growth there was no striving
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it was like this you know this worship of everything needs to be the same all the time
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and that that's a problem too i think there's also like there's a biblical there's a biblical
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aspect to it as well as that you know god created the heavens and the earth in seven days he created
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everything and then he gave us as humanity the drive to create and so then if we're just leaving
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it up to computer generation there's no creation and to your point life gets stagnant society gets
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stagnant and then we don't continue to grow yeah you know like the thing is to your point when i
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look at that trailer with val kilmer just like knowing it's not actually him does take something
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out of it for me it really does but what if you didn't know yeah i mean but then that's just
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deception to be fair it's kind of an interesting thing i'm not talking about from them i'm talking
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about what if you didn't know and what if just just you're watching tv and you know this comes
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on and you see the trailer and you're like oh cool doc kilmer movie you know yeah but it's kind of
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i'm thinking of so many deception weird ways this could go like for example what if everyone decided
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you know there's too much dispute they keep trying to make james bond a woman or a black guy
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or whatever what if the studio said guys we are cutting the gordian knot the next james bond film
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stars sean connery as he was 1965 1965 sean connery is the star of this movie and we just get a that
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version of james bond i didn't realize i was this anti i'm now getting to a point where i'm anti we
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starting us starting to use cgi to de-age people in movies like guardians of the galaxy when they
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brought uh russell um crow not russell crow uh kurt russell oh and brought him back as like his
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old self um i and this is just happening live but like yeah i'm to the point where i'm just like
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heroes. That's why all of our action stars are 75
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okay we're just going to bring back the golden age
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They already did that in one of the Terminators,
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Russell getting the two famous Russells confused is gold.
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I do think there needs to be rules of the road.
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I don't think that it should be done without the family's consent.
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for sure i think that that that should 100 always be a choice here um i'm just saying like i would
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watch that movie i think it's cool is it more defensible if it's similar to this where an actor
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was going to make the film and they die part way or just before production begins like let's say
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let's say i think it's definitely more like let's say the dark knight heath ledger died right after
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they'd finished filming let's say they were 60 finished filming would it be better to film
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Because you have a script, he agreed to the script,
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I'm going to make it harder for you. Now let's say
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Or let's say Harry Potter. Let's say they made the first
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harry potter movie and then the kid who's gonna yeah i know they're making it and then the kid
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who plays harry in the first movie dies in an accident can you ai that kid for the rest of the
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harry potter movies not for the rest of them i wouldn't say that the rest you could probably
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find a lookalike you just have to get somebody new and everybody would understand and but here's
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here's what's going to happen can that hot take here when you just mentioned james bond that's
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what i wanted to actually respond to because hot take what we're going to get is like choose your
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own movies so we're going to get to the point now where movies are going to come out and then like
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you at home the same way that you'd like make a character in a video game you're going to be able
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to say you know if you're blm like i want the blm james bond which actually wouldn't have a problem
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with idris elba as james as james bond i think you'd be a good one and i also just think i also
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think that they should just change it to that um that they establish the fan theory that james bond
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the next Bond movie should just be 100% a period piece
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just keep bond with his actual character biography that makes sense otherwise you might as well just
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say james bond is this incredibly thin thing where already been proven to be completely not the case
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they have recast bond time and time again but they always kept him the same like he looked
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basically the same are you talking about idris elba and yeah they're trying there oh let's make
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black bond let's make i don't love black immigrant bond we're gonna get jamaican bond he's a great
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actor it's just james james bond is a white scottish guy who has a background and you can't
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just blow that up and say james bond is any british spy and like i don't think people would tolerate
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that with other characters like we don't really make batman movies where we say oh batman is any
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person who happens to find the bat cave and they just have lots of super different you can tweak
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it on the margins but it's always going to be bruce wayne who has these canonical character
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beats and if you subvert those it's very willful and you're doing a special spin on the character
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or something this is why i was so interested in the idea of recasting indiana jones as chris pratt
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back in the day before they did dial of destiny instead of instead of like moving on from harrison
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ford oh yeah but just keeping it as indiana jones the same guy he already did yeah he already did
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the uh jurassic park and he looked and he was great kind of looked the exact same but like to
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that point i think that's the best indiana jones obviously world series oh obviously
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zuzu's back she says the movie terminator answered this question ai will kill us all
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no ai only movies what if that is the way they did it like they order it like you told the ai
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ai make a do do a movie and it's going to have clint eastwood and uh charlton heston at the
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realizes that it can never recreate that perfection
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we we're done can i point something out about that yeah is that like so when when i first had kids
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i remember we were like you know just walking through the store and we went to like the video
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game aisle and i was looking at like okay what games they have for kids and and i was looking
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i was like okay they have sonic they have mario they have like ninja turtles they have pokemon
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and i was like okay well where are like the new games like those are all games like when i was a
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where the new characters and the new games and they don't exist because there aren't any yeah
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yeah i mean that's why i mean that's why we live in an era of hollywood that's all um reboots and
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prequels and sequels and no actually new no actual new ip's and that's and that's a problem
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that's a big problem it's a it's a big problem they're like oh yeah oh and the next star wars
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here's your next star wars i'm like what do you mean like but where's the next like the next thing
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like star wars is super old the biggest problem is that caboose is never going to leave his living
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room because he has physical media and nothing new is any is at all good enough that he's never
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going to leave his living room he's just going to keep re-watching all of the old films he was
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literally watching lord of the rings in the studio the other day that was really special i was like
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My kids don't even know what physical media is.
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Yeah, so for the sake of physical media and Caboose leaving his living room,
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other than books, I have no idea what physical media is.
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Andrew, do your kids know what physical media is?
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Like the next generation like doesn't even have any relationship with physical media.
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When you give your kids a book, do they like freak out?
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They also won't have the attention span to watch the movies because they're used to watching clips of a movie on TikTok.
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Well, I watched the Swiss Family Robinson with them.
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you know when they get on the they get on the beach and they all like the father's like ready
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to go get to work and she goes not yet you know it's first and they get down and they pray yeah
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i'm like man that was the movie that got me interested in indiana jones you know and got
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me interested in those type of films wow andrew so you mean that when they put overtly christian
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things into movies it's actually cool it's amazing the whole movie okay hold on the whole movie of
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swiss family robinson is not overtly christian it is it is there's elements of christianity
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it's not overtly but it's not overtly they're not overtly pagan exactly i like it
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i like it i love the sound effect like a little like situation mentions is the overtly christian
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element just saying that it's what i like i feel my resolve weakening i think i'm a slightly less
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ai than most people like there's films that were that should have been made with specific actors
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that just never got thank you yes yeah so for example one that i've always thought about
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we were supposed to get i don't know if anyone else has read this have you ever read a confederacy
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of dunces great novel they were supposed to make a movie out of confederacy of dunces which is this
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comedy novel um i can't remember the name of the author but comedy novel set in new orleans by this
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like weird shut in catholic guy who i've been compared to occasionally but he's way fatter
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than me and named ignatius riley and they were supposed to make a film adaptation of it with
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john candy and that would have been amazing he would have been the perfect person for this role
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but it was cursed and never made and he died unfortunately in his 40s we can rebuild him
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i've always said that it's it's an absolute crime that we didn't get the chance to see
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philip seymour hoffman play steve bannon yeah or or a really bad general losing philip seymour
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a really bad one a really bad one yeah mission he lost uh chris farley before he could play
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uh that the ford guy the the guy was the mayor of toronto the guy who had plenty to eat at home
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can't you just imagine chris farley or just doing the snl skit yeah yeah just you know which you
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know which one i never got speaking of snl was belushi that belushi was originally going to be
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in ghostbusters and i feel like having belushi there would have totally just totally changed
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the vibe of that film yeah i actually watched didn't i tell you i watched that for the first
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time and like i don't know since i was a little kid would he have been would he have been bill
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murray's character i think he would have been venkman yeah which is like it just i don't i'm
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like i don't like it nothing sleep at the wheel sleep at the button there it is i think that
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means it's time to wrap actually they're falling by the way before we wrap i do want to say uh i
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want to throw in the chat that i thought that if you have children and are enjoying one a good
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kids movie that the kid my kids loved super mario galaxy and thought it was great the new one huh
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we saw the drive-in yeah i think my kids went that movie was really bad my wife said it wasn't
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as good again like like like you're like it's not meant to be like dissected as high art
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yeah it is literally a chill a movie for five-year-olds and i i went to it i'm not making
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this up i went to it because about once every two years i decide to go play poker at gila river
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and then i play until i get some like bad beat and lose my starting amount of money and i'm not
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a gambler so then i just walk away so that is literally what happened i was like i'm annoyed
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i lost on a bad beat on the river i'm gonna go watch the dumb mario movie for some dumb fun
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and i was about 10 minutes in i just realized what have i done this is going to be terrible
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and it was yeah i just sat there you don't have kids for 90 minutes clapping and cheering i don't
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know um i i think the new michael jackson movie looks good uh michael which by the way you know
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what's what's what's really cool about the new michael jackson movie is it's not ai or cgi they
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got his nephew that's remarkable i just like that they didn't bring up any of his like sexual stuff
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huh right i read something about this well that's good because i don't think he's innocent i don't
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think he did anything wrong substantiated so i do want to i do want to be clear that we are in
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thought crime and we are not accusing him of anything because none of that's been substantiated
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and um and thought crime i don't think i don't think michael did it no i think he's innocent i
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think uh you know uh but it's like the people have been closest to him i think i honestly i
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think actually the argument of uh uh what's his name dave chappelle is actually one of the most
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compelling ones which is he spent a bunch of time with macaulay culkin when macaulay culkin was
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the most famous child in the world and like macaulay culkin for example has always said
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michael jackson never did anything wrong i never saw anything wrong like there's anyone who didn't
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have a direct incentive like a monetary incentive to go after michael jackson has always insisted
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nothing wrong ever happened it is kind of weird though that he hung out it's weird he was weird
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like under oath that that uh michael jackson did nothing well but they didn't even bring up any of
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the allegations in the film or something they shouldn't they shouldn't i think it's a year on
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i just that's the only reason i heard about the film no because it's it's early it's like the
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it's like the early part of his career okay all right i think it's like the early part of his
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career am i frozen no you're there my wi-fi pick up there you're good uh yeah i don't really like
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those types of movies other than elvis really loved elvis the other ones that they did kind
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of like that the biopic uh was the um biopic no biopic no biopic biopic because it's a biography
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and a picture did you say biopic i did i think you've done that before i've done that but thanks
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i didn't like it i liked it but and i read the book i liked the book um so we did like a double
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feature we did um mario galaxy and then project hail mary was the next one so i saw the big screen
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so i just got the book i thought it was good i thought it was a solid movie i like sci-fi
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i give it like a b plus because it's it just wasn't that original uh like you say it's an
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original film but it's very derivative it's very it's like interstellar plus the arrival
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Matt Damon. The same author. Yeah, same author.
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or horrible book in the middle, like really, really bad.
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yeah that was that was all you dude blake started doing i was like well shoot maybe
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everyone's a critic and i gotta say the val kill i i'm gonna see that val kilmer movie
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um i'm i'm gonna see it you know i think i think it looks good doesn't bother me
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uh all right jack you want to take us home ladies and gentlemen as always go out there