Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 18, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 123 — Doll Moms? Immortal Val Kilmer? Sabrina vs. "Zaghrouta"?


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00:00:00.000 From the age of Big Brother.
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00:00:21.460 Welcome once again to another fascinating, enlightening, elucidating, educating episode.
00:00:30.000 of thought crime it is thought crime thursday and we have gathered yet again in the sight of
00:00:37.240 god and men to commit thought crime and we've got the assembled team before us however there is an
00:00:47.640 issue with one member of our team a dark violation of the only rule that we have here on thought crime
00:00:56.160 Oh, dang it.
00:00:56.960 He did it again.
00:00:58.740 Yes, it is Mr. Andrew yet again.
00:01:01.000 Nobody said anything.
00:01:02.400 Nobody said anything to me.
00:01:03.380 Yeah, because we thought you would realize it.
00:01:05.500 We thought you cared, Andrew.
00:01:07.880 I care about being warm in this studio.
00:01:09.700 There are no, and for those listening, Andrew is yet again wearing a jacket.
00:01:16.260 I'm fine.
00:01:17.320 It's dealt with.
00:01:19.380 It's dealt with, all right?
00:01:20.440 Sounds like you're the one we have to deal with.
00:01:21.500 It has now been dealt with.
00:01:24.080 Fair enough.
00:01:25.120 Okay.
00:01:26.160 I hope none of you watching this
00:01:28.220 or listening are wearing a jacket, by the way.
00:01:30.400 This rule applies to all of you as well.
00:01:33.020 Yeah, you can't be wearing a jacket.
00:01:34.220 You're not actually allowed to wear
00:01:36.060 a men's jacket.
00:01:38.820 You're not allowed to wear a jacket
00:01:39.800 while listening to thought crime.
00:01:42.480 Yeah, if you're jacketed right now,
00:01:44.260 take it off. We're seeing you in the chat.
00:01:46.120 Alright, we're ready.
00:01:47.580 I'm in my NASCAR Monster Mile shirt.
00:01:50.580 I got this at
00:01:52.060 the Dover NASCAR track, and I love it.
00:01:54.180 I thought it was a soccer jersey for a minute there.
00:01:58.480 No, I don't watch soccer.
00:02:00.020 I'm straight.
00:02:00.780 That's good.
00:02:01.380 Yeah, that's fair.
00:02:04.100 Yeah, nothing straighter than NASCAR right now.
00:02:07.760 Yeah, it was not recent.
00:02:11.660 Shall we get into it?
00:02:12.880 We got Andrew Colbert.
00:02:14.020 We got Blake Neff and the great producer, Russ.
00:02:17.540 What's up, guys?
00:02:17.920 Are we adding Tyler?
00:02:19.160 What's up with that?
00:02:20.080 Who knows?
00:02:20.800 Tyler Tyler's you know we do have a massive event uh tomorrow here in Phoenix tomorrow
00:02:27.100 is something going on tomorrow build the red wall is happening here in Phoenix uh 47's making his
00:02:33.000 way out some special guest or something that's coming into coming into town do an event what
00:02:38.540 are you talking about oh look at this Donald J Trump turns out the president of the United
00:02:46.620 states is doing an event with turning point usa and tp action tomorrow at dream city church and
00:02:54.200 if you want to get involved you can go to tpusa.com slash djt it's going to be at noon local time
00:03:00.800 there april 17th wowzers this is amazing andrew what can you tell us about how this came together
00:03:08.360 and and what what we should we expect for tomorrow well the president is making his way out west he's
00:03:13.680 in vegas and then he's coming down to phoenix and we're building the red wall at turning point
00:03:19.220 action so it's a turning point action event uh mostly led by and it's uh listen he's going to
00:03:26.140 make his case for economic stuff that he's doing the president's doing uh you you were there at
00:03:31.700 the white house this uh this week jack when they were talking about the tax returns tax returns
00:03:38.300 record tax returns what's the number actually it's something like 40 percent or something like
00:03:42.160 that of uh because i totally remember the number from the press conference the very important
00:03:47.860 numbers that i that he did but no it's i think it's like 11 higher than usual was the number i
00:03:53.620 saw that i remember correctly like higher higher tax returns than average yeah so exactly so but
00:04:02.720 it's also i think 40 of filers are getting a record return or 45 or something so we're gonna
00:04:08.040 be talking about that but we're also gonna be talking 47 47 47 percent that would work 45 or
00:04:13.320 47 um anyway so real quick yeah pull it up i'm seeing that 11 percent number come in yet like
00:04:19.520 like 11 percent higher refunds uh in just in terms of the dollar amount right so uh very very good
00:04:27.420 news there but yeah there's a whole economic agenda i think this is gonna be like focusing
00:04:30.680 on a lot of domestic policy i'm sure iran will come up i'm sure some of these other things will
00:04:36.020 come up but i mean that's the goal talk about the domestic wins what he's doing for real americans
00:04:40.340 and we're building the red wall turning point action so that the ty i wish tyler was here to
00:04:44.660 talk about it but um you know we've got a whole plan where we're going to be putting ballot chasers
00:04:50.480 out in the ground in specific states arizona nevada new hampshire because if you win those
00:04:56.240 states and you hold the sun belt you basically make it pretty darn hard for a democrat um nigh
00:05:04.120 impossible to uh to win a national election so it's uh it's a good strategy we're putting it
00:05:10.860 putting it into effect so we're calling the event build the red wall it's going to be good we're
00:05:15.380 gonna have uh andy biggs there wants this gamani we're gonna have uh some others so it's gonna be
00:05:20.940 a packed event packed house and we're looking forward to it super duper cool so uh one of the
00:05:29.640 things though that that came out and it isn't it isn't so much of a thought crime but um
00:05:35.600 okay right i think i think taylor uh excuse me tyler is going to fly in in a minute so i'm
00:05:40.980 trying to read and talk at the same time i shouldn't do that and um speaking of tyler's
00:05:46.160 um huge news i know we covered this on our individual shows but just just massive news
00:05:52.820 in the Tyler Robinson case that the ballistics report has come out.
00:05:59.000 And this is, you know, kind of a moment, I guess I would say,
00:06:02.240 for all of us who have been following this and, you know,
00:06:08.280 waiting to see this report, which was done all the way back on September 17th.
00:06:12.660 And, you know, we've made reference to it.
00:06:15.680 We've talked about it.
00:06:17.620 And now it is out.
00:06:20.280 Blake was, you know, standing right there.
00:06:22.820 as we've talked about many times. And this is, you know, obviously something that was very close
00:06:28.360 to all of us. And the fact that now we're starting to see because because we're getting the reason
00:06:33.400 this is coming out now is because we're getting closer and closer to the preliminary hearing
00:06:37.160 for Tyler Robinson, which is it's kind of crazy that that hasn't even happened yet. It's just,
00:06:42.560 you know, compared to, you know, the way some people might be used to seeing things in movies
00:06:46.780 or even just other states that Tyler Robinson hasn't even pled yet. He hasn't even entered a
00:06:52.240 plea of guilty or not guilty just the way you saw systems it system works and so here we are seven
00:06:57.240 months out it'll be eight months when the preliminary hearing takes place but that's why
00:07:01.920 so many of these things are are being unsealed now and yeah i just just kind of wanted to take
00:07:06.640 a moment and recognize that this is out um 30 caliber bullet fragments were recovered in uh
00:07:15.500 charlie's autopsy and look this this is charlie's show as much as it is all of ours in terms of
00:07:23.340 thought crime and you know we want to see justice for what happened to our friend and and there's
00:07:29.640 there's no question about that and so you know we've always called for evidence to be released
00:07:35.000 and now it's coming you know andrew you you know i've obviously have talked about this the most
00:07:39.360 what you know what does it mean to you i think real quick just you know real quick that you know
00:07:43.440 that we're actually seeing this report now yeah i mean i think back to the daily mail headline
00:07:48.080 talked about it on their daily show and blake was part of that but it was you know really annoying
00:07:53.840 actually when that headline came out because it was basically they have a good headline today
00:07:57.420 though they had a good headline today i will give that uh charles sparing i think was the
00:08:01.560 the reporter on that one he he did a he did a an honest report so credit where it's due but yeah
00:08:07.600 i mean they said that bullets don't match the gun or whatever which was not at all what the atf
00:08:11.660 report said but nobody had the atf report so we had to sort of like surmise certain things and we
00:08:17.540 had a ballistics expert uh former prosecutor u.s attorney who's you know looked at hundreds of atf
00:08:24.280 reports and he told us at the time the dog the dog that didn't bark in that defense motion was
00:08:29.900 that the defense attorneys didn't mention the caliber of the round that was used and he was
00:08:35.140 like i guarantee you he's like i'll put money on it that that's going to be a 30 cal and that's why
00:08:39.580 the defense didn't even mention it so fast forward to yesterday we get the atf report that's public
00:08:46.000 the judge moves to make it public and they they confirm yes it is a 30 caliber weapon consistent
00:08:53.280 with the mauser rifle that was used or the suspected murder weapon right the other thing
00:08:58.140 they confirmed was that the spent shell casing also matches the gun so while the bullet itself
00:09:04.340 you know explodes into a number of pieces and it's highly damaged and you can't necessarily
00:09:08.900 do forensics on it because it's too badly damaged the shell casing which was spent from the one
00:09:13.980 fired shot does match the gun not only that the the shell matches all the other unfired rounds
00:09:20.960 as if they were from the same box if you will for when they were when they were made so so there's
00:09:25.720 a ton of evidence not to mention the dna evidence not to mention some of the new uh evidence that
00:09:30.980 was released via that affidavit the handwritten letter well the the the the way just just on this
00:09:35.960 question of the of the fragmentation you know the way that i kind of tried to explain to on on
00:09:41.160 human events i said it's kind of like getting a partial fingerprint you know it's it's like it's
00:09:46.700 like saying that i've got you know a little bit of a fingerprint and it looks a whole lot like
00:09:52.340 this other person's fingerprint but because i don't have enough of the fingerprint i can't
00:09:57.400 conclusively say it's that finger that being said obviously this isn't the only uh piece of evidence
00:10:03.600 in the case and um you know logically speaking and and you know blake i'll just throw that to
00:10:08.080 you real quick and i don't want to beleaguer this too much but yeah i think it makes makes sense for
00:10:11.680 people to kind of go through the you know the evidence so that's understood you know just from
00:10:16.080 a sense of logic right you know you know we can sort of surmise that you know through through
00:10:22.480 the process of elimination right regarding this situation if there's one rifle and there's one
00:10:29.040 spent round and there's one set of fragments found in the autopsy you know it the probabilities just
00:10:36.960 kind of stack up yeah i mean well what really all of the framing as seen in the daily mail article
00:10:42.620 as an example they always use framing in the most mendacious way possible like every single test
00:10:50.300 they're doing could very easily if it was capable of doing so debunk the possibility of tyler
00:10:57.380 robinson being the shooter would have been very easy to come back and say round doesn't match
00:11:01.760 would have been very easy to produce we can conclusively rule out this rifle we can conclusively
00:11:06.380 rule out his dna that could happen at every single step of this and instead at best they're getting
00:11:13.220 it's it's a possibility it's 100 possible for this thing to be there and then sometimes we're
00:11:19.440 just getting outright matches we're getting very direct evidence we're getting these letters we're
00:11:24.680 getting the engravings we're getting eyewitness and of course on top of this something we shouldn't
00:11:30.200 forget we have the fact that his parents literally turned him in and it's happening every step of the
00:11:35.820 way and it's important to see this but it's also important not to ignore what has been going on
00:11:41.740 here which really i think people who know that the evidence in this case is overwhelming are
00:11:48.040 running with this sort of nonsense that the daily mail did to try to introduce skepticism and doubt
00:11:54.640 in order to fuel crazy people
00:11:56.840 because that's the only way
00:11:58.320 that they could get an acquittal
00:12:00.660 or really just a hung jury in this case.
00:12:03.200 They're trying to deliberately fuel cranks
00:12:05.280 because they know that this person is guilty.
00:12:07.900 I think that they're playing the marketplace
00:12:10.160 where they're like,
00:12:11.240 ooh, there's a market for this conspiracy nonsense,
00:12:13.440 so let's write a headline
00:12:14.680 that we know they're going to pick up.
00:12:16.320 And that's Daily Mail's job.
00:12:18.240 At the end of the day,
00:12:19.080 that's all they're trying to be.
00:12:20.180 It's tabloid.
00:12:20.860 That's the thing.
00:12:21.840 But one actually the one thing I would like to say, I guess, about the original Daily Mail headline that we're all talking around is that, you know, and Blake, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it's the way to look at it is the bullet does match the gun.
00:12:36.640 The bullet does. Yes. Yeah.
00:12:38.300 the case because no no the bullet fragments do match the gun right what we're saying is they
00:12:44.600 can't be definitively uh tied to that only that gun right you can't exclude all the other guns
00:12:51.960 but it does include this gun so this actually does count in this gun we're not saying that
00:12:59.520 i think that's an important distinction only gun that could have fired it but it is matched to the
00:13:03.200 gun yeah well because a lot of a lot of people you know say that oh it couldn't have been a 30
00:13:08.460 odd six because that's too big of a round that it would have the damage would have happened there
00:13:12.540 would have been an exit wound whatever what this atf report says is it was a 30 caliber round which
00:13:18.620 is a 30 which is a class so it's matched to this class of gun which includes this gun so it is
00:13:23.660 matched it's just not matched to only this gun get it yeah no exactly and in the other part that
00:13:29.740 people need to understand that there's different types of projectiles i've had to you know learn
00:13:34.860 some of this stuff just in the aftermath but you know there are full metal jackets hunting right
00:13:40.420 i yeah i grew up hunting and all that stuff but you know i'm not i'm not when you're a kid you
00:13:44.580 know dad kind of yeah exactly i'm not like i'm not i'm in no way shape or form a ballistics expert
00:13:49.660 or something like that we you know we bring them on the show because they have interesting things
00:13:53.340 to say and they can add light to this but what i will say is there's different types of of rounds
00:13:58.540 right there's full metal jacket that are that is designed to go straight through things right uh
00:14:03.920 there is hollow point right and which is designed to disperse in the body it's supposed to be for
00:14:09.820 hunting you know you kill an animal quicker right uh and there's usually not it's for it's an ethical
00:14:15.180 kill yeah ethical call so these are things that you kind of learn other things that determine
00:14:19.820 the what happens when a bullet hits uh in this in this case a human body or bone or tissue or
00:14:25.760 something is you know the age of the bullet the grain of the bullet uh these kind of things can
00:14:30.920 determine a lot of different things so um anyways you know the fact that the bullet uh you know
00:14:36.400 broke apart is very telling of what kind of bullet is probably a hollow point i don't i don't know
00:14:40.940 that any report has has confirmed that or excluded that but that would be the assumption i haven't
00:14:45.920 seen that yeah i haven't seen that specifically stated but this again this is just a preliminary
00:14:50.040 report so you know it's a big moment because this is the first time we've seen an official report
00:14:55.820 but this isn't even the full report yet correct so anyways it was nice to at least have the judge
00:15:02.700 uh release uh agree to release this and you know it's it's pretty i mean what we had a guy named
00:15:10.100 jay town on the show and i've seen him on twitter he's really good yeah he's very good and he
00:15:15.940 basically had this comment i wish i could remember maybe you do blake but he was basically saying
00:15:19.680 okay you only have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in trials like this okay he's like but this
00:15:25.020 you you combine all the different pieces together this is not just beyond a reasonable doubt this
00:15:29.620 is beyond statistical probability models like this is yeah that's what i was saying about
00:15:34.580 probably like the probabilities are just stacking upon each other that okay and this person and this
00:15:39.620 one and he was in aurem and and and you know you're you're just you're getting to the point
00:15:44.220 where you know it's it's we had tom sour on um my my friend from um you know eod special operator
00:15:51.420 served together and you know he was saying it's it's just it's statistically impossible that's
00:15:56.620 what he just that's the way he put it it's like it's just statistically impossible because so for
00:16:00.220 tom what what he would do in eod and and you know i was the intel um uh intel analyst and then later
00:16:07.900 intel director in the unit was you know once you once you find like bomb fragments you know so then
00:16:13.820 we would have to tack you know track back okay you know who made this bomb are there fingerprints
00:16:18.860 is there dna is there are there precursors are there specific you know parts of it that we could
00:16:24.780 tie to a specific group or like a you know if it was a rfied which is a radio frequency you know
00:16:30.780 can we tie that to a specific type of casio watch and who uses that watch is a big thing with terrorists
00:16:36.220 and so and on and on and on so it's it's similar work that he's done in the past and he was just
00:16:41.980 saying look you know when you get to this point it's it's just statistically impossible to say
00:16:46.340 that that this wasn't what happened yeah i think i think that's my read on it and there's you know
00:16:53.240 there's a gal named andrea what is it beckhart burkhart oh yeah she's been excellent just the
00:16:58.320 best yeah she's not she's not like on one side or another she's just talking about the case
00:17:02.780 no and she's covered a lot of these trials and she's mocking a lot of like commentators that
00:17:07.820 have no understanding of the legal process which i find enjoyable and in my in my from my perspective
00:17:14.780 so yeah she's been really good she was the one that uh actually i first saw reporting on this
00:17:19.340 and it's since spread far and wide which is good uh russ let me get you in on this because uh we
00:17:24.540 haven't had you in yet before we move uh move topics um yeah i just i think it's it's going
00:17:31.040 to be interesting to see how this all plays out and it's going to be i'm just glad that you know
00:17:36.780 we're covering it as extensively as we are and just trying to bring actually one real quick
00:17:41.860 if you could comment maybe the one thing we haven't talked about is that tomorrow uh tyler's
00:17:46.020 back in court for the hearing on cameras yeah so how important is it you think that you know that
00:17:52.460 this thing is is televised i think i think it's really important that it's televised i think
00:17:58.160 transparency is ultimately key um and the best way for things to be transparent is a live feed
00:18:05.320 um yeah there's secure there can be security issues with that kind of stuff but i think um
00:18:11.880 i don't i don't see that happening here and i think it's a good thing to have it on camera
00:18:16.820 um think about all of the the weird conspiracy conspiracies that come out with other cases that
00:18:25.040 weren't televised or whatever so yeah yeah we need this thing public let it let it out
00:18:31.160 public and and let's get it out no man it's good need the cameras in there get them on turn the
00:18:41.040 cameras on but um sometimes russ you mentioned live feeds speaking of public segue into our next
00:18:47.800 our next segment here because sometimes uh when things are caught on live feed you can catch
00:18:54.240 actors and celebrities and singers doing things that they might not normally say or do and
00:19:02.560 occasionally you catch their authentic reactions isn't that right blake that's right that is and
00:19:08.420 that's why we get to all enjoy the saga of sabrina carpenter versus the however you do that i can't i
00:19:17.400 can't do whatever strange chant these people do no you do do that you do you do that like all the
00:19:21.800 That was a good representation.
00:19:24.960 No, Blake, you've done that multiple times on air,
00:19:27.220 and it's hilarious every time.
00:19:29.000 Well, whatever.
00:19:29.900 Anyway, so this happened.
00:19:31.860 What are you talking about?
00:19:33.120 What happened here with Sabrina Carpenter?
00:19:34.380 I'm told Sabrina Carpenter is a popular musician.
00:19:37.300 I don't listen to any music made after the year 1991,
00:19:41.260 so I can't really say.
00:19:42.800 But I'm told she's a popular musician.
00:19:45.540 She was headlining at Coachella,
00:19:47.580 which I am told is a popular concert.
00:19:49.760 It's a thing.
00:19:50.140 I don't go to concerts.
00:19:51.800 I also don't really go to California, so I'm really not in the sweet spot for this story
00:19:57.660 in the slightest, but this person I'm told is popular went to this concert I'm told is
00:20:02.580 popular, and she got in trouble because one of her fans was making noise, and she didn't
00:20:08.620 like it, and that would normally be okay.
00:20:10.580 Well, we'll get into it.
00:20:11.780 Let's play clip number 10.
00:20:16.920 Is that what you're doing?
00:20:21.800 i don't like it that's your culture is yodeling
00:20:33.000 is this burning man what's going on this is weird
00:20:39.080 man she said she actually said i don't like it yeah oh that's yeah i missed that earlier i don't
00:20:45.480 like it so that's very telling explain who that was in the audience so the who that was in the
00:20:51.160 audience she was apparently someone of maybe middle eastern extraction i'm not sure if we've
00:20:57.180 identified a specific person yet but zagruda she was doing yeah it's called a zagruda which
00:21:03.160 i had no idea there's a name for it and yeah she says it was her culture it's it's an expression
00:21:10.140 of her culture to be really annoying at concerts and if like how's it go again uh well let's see
00:21:16.120 well clip 15 will tell you exactly how yeah yeah i'm gonna defer to the clip here play it 15
00:21:20.280 yeah i don't like it either i only clipped eight seconds of that because i i knew none of us wanted
00:21:34.880 to listen to that any longer uh that is the most annoying thing in the world but like you know
00:21:39.040 what's interesting about it is that the the you know without having any filter she was just like
00:21:44.080 i don't like it and i think that's like a really interesting part of this whole thing she wasn't
00:21:50.000 trying to be bigoted she just was like i don't like you making that noise but so so right so now
00:21:55.500 you know without even having to look but i did look but without even having to know she has of
00:21:59.920 course come out and apologized and i believe i believe she said something along the lines of
00:22:04.040 like i'm really sorry because i thought the person doing it was white no she didn't say that but she
00:22:10.900 probably something along it seriously it was did she say that so she did issue an she issued this
00:22:15.820 apology uh shortly after it happened and she said my apologies i didn't see this person with my
00:22:23.100 i should say she was replying to someone she was replying to someone named poppy said sabrina
00:22:28.760 saying she doesn't like a cultural
00:22:30.640 Arabic cheer. This is insensitive
00:22:32.880 and Islamophobic.
00:22:34.940 I am very disappointed at her. And then
00:22:36.840 Sabrina responds to that.
00:22:39.020 My apologies. I didn't see this person
00:22:40.880 with my eyes. So, you know,
00:22:42.740 she couldn't see that she was part of, you know, a group
00:22:44.720 that it's not okay to make fun of. That clearly means
00:22:46.680 race. That clearly means race.
00:22:48.620 And I couldn't hear clearly.
00:22:50.560 My reaction was pure confusion,
00:22:52.860 sarcasm, and not
00:22:54.160 ill-intended. I could have
00:22:56.700 handled it better. Now I know
00:22:58.380 what is a gruda is unspoken and i can hate it with every fiber of my being i welcome all cheers
00:23:04.640 and yodels from here on out yeah yodels i uh let's go around the corner do you think she
00:23:12.120 means race there because i'm saying i'm saying she thinks she means race i did when she says
00:23:15.620 that i couldn't see the person yeah i think she's inferring like yeah i couldn't see that it was
00:23:20.260 it's definitely if it had been i i couldn't see that it was somebody that came from a different
00:23:24.680 culture that could have
00:23:26.360 if it had been a white
00:23:28.460 if it had been like a white SEC sorority
00:23:30.920 girl who did a kind of yodel
00:23:32.700 type chat we would have a new story
00:23:34.900 that is you know
00:23:36.180 yodel yodel Karen or something like that
00:23:38.940 and she wouldn't have apologized
00:23:39.880 it would have been popular
00:23:41.420 Sabrina Carpenter
00:23:44.760 shuts down
00:23:45.480 we would have gotten think pieces about
00:23:48.580 like screaming while
00:23:50.780 white at concerts and 0.99
00:23:52.640 white people imposing their loudness on the dignified silence of other cultures why white 0.98
00:23:57.600 people need to shut up and sit so funny enough um so sabrina carpenter is from like not too far away 0.96
00:24:04.400 from me in uh in pennsylvania she's also pretty close to where um uh taylor swift is from and
00:24:12.320 like i swear like we're all from this like one corner of southeast pa and um just a few miles
00:24:19.120 down the road from quaker town pa is of course newtown pa where we got to find out recently that
00:24:24.000 there is an isis cell that was like bombing gracie mansion in new york so it's like i don't know like
00:24:30.820 30 miles or something and it so it's like it may not be part of your culture but it is coming soon
00:24:37.140 to your town sabrina carpenter it's coming soon very very very quickly and like that's i don't
00:24:43.620 know there's just something about that tied myself and just the area is changing right but but i guess
00:24:50.340 the thought crime here is like i'm just going to come out and say it i'm on sabrina's carpenter's
00:24:55.040 i'm on sabrina carpenter's side on this one i think it's weird i i think it it sounds odd i
00:25:01.720 think it's off-putting um it's it's just not part of our culture and you know it's shrill it's just
00:25:07.980 shrill and sounds kind of nasty and i think it's totally fine for sabrina carpenter to have that
00:25:13.440 reaction that was her honest reaction okay we have a great follow-up to that then now i'm a
00:25:17.480 little annoyed i have to play this because i've actually gone through this entire story and my
00:25:20.900 entire life i don't actually know what genre of music sabrina carpenter plays i i don't know a
00:25:26.700 single song and i don't know anything but apparently we're about to learn it because
00:25:30.680 this is a sabrina carpenter music video that i'm told will be very educational about you're not
00:25:36.180 You're not going to play the Catholic one, are you?
00:25:37.460 Number 12.
00:25:42.860 Yep.
00:25:44.420 Yep.
00:25:47.180 Play the Catholic one for those on audio.
00:25:51.640 What Catholic church let her shoot this in there?
00:25:54.660 No, this was a whole thing where, like, the priest got in big trouble for giving approval to this.
00:26:00.320 And, like, you know, they kind of approached, like, through, you know, surreptitious means
00:26:04.980 and, like, didn't explain what they were planning to do.
00:26:08.580 It's just sacrilegious.
00:26:11.640 It's crazy that she goes through her whole apology for yodeling.
00:26:15.620 Never apologize to Catholic Church.
00:26:17.580 She ain't never apologized.
00:26:18.780 So it says in the thing that it's a murder fantasy 0.98
00:26:21.080 about killing men in a church.
00:26:22.640 I did see the sort of kind of movie caskets in the background,
00:26:27.800 but does it show anything else?
00:26:29.800 I don't know.
00:26:30.700 I have no idea.
00:26:32.120 I can honestly say I did not.
00:26:33.740 I've never knowingly listened to a Sabrina Carpenter song.
00:26:36.640 Okay, it was Annunciation.
00:26:37.720 If I remember correctly from that controversy,
00:26:39.440 that this church actually had to be re-consecrated after this?
00:26:42.820 Yeah, and the Monsignor got stripped of his duties
00:26:45.940 at Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Church in Williamsburg.
00:26:49.820 Ooh.
00:26:51.340 This one tweet, though, like, look at how these people react to this.
00:26:54.920 This is Kevin, but it seems to be a female?
00:26:58.480 I don't know.
00:26:59.680 I'm in complete shock.
00:27:02.280 i used to be a huge sabrina carpenter fan and now she's mocking my culture and calling me weird 0.97
00:27:08.940 this is so racist and inappropriate and it made me feel uncomfortable this white blonde racist 0.89
00:27:14.840 woman should be canceled that sounds like a satire maybe i'm not sure that's a real one i mean 0.96
00:27:19.940 i didn't know that's how those people talk we know yeah well yeah even if it is satire it's
00:27:27.080 like kind of funny but it does sound too on the note we have we have a bigger thing that we should
00:27:31.120 hit though which is if going is a culture is that just objectively yeah no that's what i was
00:27:39.160 gonna say is that it's weird and it's okay to think that it's weird because it's totally weird
00:27:43.240 no it's not weird i'm not saying it's weird i'm saying it's bad yeah it yeah i think it's a i
00:27:50.040 think it's like sort of reflect reflection of the entire culture but we do weird and bad things too
00:27:56.120 to be perfectly fair.
00:27:57.700 But I just think it's interesting
00:27:58.560 that it strikes a Western ear instantly.
00:28:02.000 You say, let's go.
00:28:03.500 As I don't like it.
00:28:04.880 She says, I don't like it.
00:28:06.520 And I think that's kind of,
00:28:08.600 on some sort of fundamental level,
00:28:10.660 what we're dealing with
00:28:11.420 with a lot of the mass immigration stuff
00:28:13.560 where it's just like a lot of Westerners
00:28:15.600 kind of just go, we don't like it.
00:28:17.740 And that doesn't make me,
00:28:18.520 I just like my own culture.
00:28:19.740 I like their culture
00:28:20.540 if it's in their context, that's all.
00:28:22.660 One of the most important cultural traits
00:28:24.440 of the West that we are losing
00:28:26.300 is our appreciation of not being
00:28:28.620 deafeningly loud at all times.
00:28:30.980 True.
00:28:32.100 As anyone can discover by writing on a subway.
00:28:34.720 Especially being loud in public,
00:28:36.480 I'm sorry, that's just third-world behavior.
00:28:38.560 That's absolutely third-world behavior.
00:28:40.900 The entire lack of respect
00:28:44.160 for other people's
00:28:47.020 personal space,
00:28:48.880 for being loud,
00:28:50.420 for being obtrusive
00:28:51.600 and intrusive of others you know personal space while you're in public it's just that's that's a
00:28:57.600 total third worldism and i'm not saying there aren't americans that don't do that but i'm saying
00:29:01.980 that the vast majority of people from third world don't have any problem with this reminds me of
00:29:06.060 like reminds me of like getting on a bus in china um and you know i so i used to ride the bus to
00:29:11.820 work in china and i you know would would go on and when you're getting on they don't do like
00:29:18.340 lines like like the concept of getting on a line is very western and in china you get on you get
00:29:24.640 the doors open and then you just push there's a massive people yeah yeah and and it this could
00:29:31.040 be like little old ladies or whoever and they just they just they will just start pushing you
00:29:36.860 and i'm like whoa the first time it happened i'm like what are you doing like excuse me i'm standing
00:29:41.120 here like and i could say it in chinese as well uh well and i'm like wow wow seriously and that's
00:29:50.600 our culture and just be loud with and then eventually eventually i learned you just gotta
00:29:55.660 you just gotta kind of like they push you and you just gotta like fend them off like you just gotta
00:29:59.600 fend them off and get on the bus or they will push you until you don't make it you know well
00:30:04.220 and it's like that's just how they run their country it's an interesting social tech thing
00:30:07.840 Like if you go to, for example, I mean, actually in the U.S., we're pretty good about when you get to a station on train, for example, the people get off and then other people get on.
00:30:18.680 Yeah, exactly.
00:30:19.680 It's like that in Japan.
00:30:21.040 It's like that in South Korea when I went there.
00:30:22.960 And I've been to countries.
00:30:24.540 I recall Egypt being this way.
00:30:27.340 And this element of social technology just didn't take.
00:30:32.480 And so it'll get there.
00:30:34.400 And it's just, OK, everyone run into each other.
00:30:37.840 and just try to push past each other there's absolutely no upside to doing this whatsoever
00:30:43.780 and it leads to people being unable to get on or it takes extra time but no we're just not going to
00:30:49.380 have people get off and then others get on that's really interesting i haven't appreciated that about
00:30:53.900 our culture and i i do appreciate it well i've got another thing for you to appreciate about our
00:30:58.440 culture uh so we're talking about whether it's deafening or has appreciation for being quiet
00:31:04.040 during the concert or during the movie for instance
00:31:06.240 this is a headline in the
00:31:08.060 Atlantic in 2022
00:31:09.820 but it's always fun to go back to
00:31:11.880 why do rich people love quiet
00:31:14.160 the sound of gentrification
00:31:16.340 is silence
00:31:17.740 by
00:31:18.560 Jokito Gonzalez
00:31:21.260 not sure how to say that one
00:31:24.040 but it's all about
00:31:26.240 how you know
00:31:27.400 the sound of gentrification is
00:31:29.600 not having it be deafening at all times
00:31:32.460 yeah I feel like that
00:31:33.860 yeah that headline's trying to like make us feel bad about liking quiet things and i i'm wondering
00:31:40.560 what the is it just because this person is obviously has an affinity for her own louder
00:31:47.660 culture that she's upset with white culture basically is that what i'm yeah basically i'm
00:31:55.000 scanning through it because she's talking about her uh dei uh enabled journey to an ivy league
00:32:02.620 college. And she's, she's experiencing culture shock there because she shows up and people don't
00:32:10.500 want her making tons of noise all the time. But actually you guys should debate this. Cause I
00:32:14.660 want to read through this and find like the best quote. And I'd forgotten from it. Uh, one day when
00:32:18.860 I accidentally sat down to study in the library's absolutely quiet room, fellow students shh'd me
00:32:24.460 into shame for putting on my Discman with our Discman. I don't know how you ever say these
00:32:29.120 things my her walkman basically with rare exceptions like saturday nights during rush
00:32:33.000 silence like blanketed the campus in the library yes she she was she was upset that she was told to
00:32:39.140 not make loud noise in the library i soon realized that silence was more than the absence of noise
00:32:46.000 it was an aesthetic to be revered yet it was an aesthetic at odds with who i was who a lot of us
00:32:52.860 were it's actually kind of funny i noticed this with um and i'm not gonna say like it's like
00:33:00.420 younger people but speaker leaving their phone on speaker with no headphones like walking around
00:33:07.520 the house and like talking on speaker and then telling you like i was like with my old roommate
00:33:12.820 like i would be literally in the living room watching tv and he's walking around the house
00:33:17.900 with speaker and then all of a sudden it's like
00:33:19.900 hey man can you turn the TV
00:33:22.040 down? I'm like no go to your bedroom or
00:33:23.940 put your headphones in.
00:33:26.220 You can tell
00:33:28.360 reading between the lines
00:33:29.920 how incredibly annoying this woman
00:33:31.960 must be. Within a few weeks
00:33:33.640 I guess I'm not sure if this is a woman because
00:33:35.700 I don't know what the gender of Hokito is but I assume
00:33:37.860 it's a woman. Within a few weeks the comfort that
00:33:39.920 I and many of my fellow minority
00:33:41.700 students had felt during the early
00:33:44.040 cacophonous days had been
00:33:45.960 eroded. One chastisement
00:33:47.740 at a time. The passive-aggressive signals to wind our gatherings down were replaced by point-blank
00:33:54.260 requests to make less noise, have less fun, do our living somewhere else, even though these rooms
00:34:01.080 belong to us too. A boisterous conversation would lead to a classmate knocking on the door with a
00:34:07.080 please quiet down. A laugh that went a bit too loud or long in a computer cluster would be met
00:34:14.080 with an admonishment yes she's right this you are sharing a common space that's called that's why
00:34:21.280 you should pipe down yeah that's why we call it common decency common consideration that's really
00:34:27.180 annoying i i already think i probably don't like this person it took me years to understand that
00:34:32.120 in demanding my friends and i quiet down these students were implying that their comfort
00:34:37.480 superseded our joy.
00:34:40.080 We are. We are, in fact.
00:34:41.740 Yes, we are. Shut up. 1.00
00:34:43.560 Yes, it does. 0.99
00:34:45.200 Do we think this has a correlation
00:34:47.400 with ADD or ADHD?
00:34:49.760 What do you mean? I think it correlates with whether you have
00:34:51.560 an inner monologue. I mean, well,
00:34:53.340 fair, but like, I mean,
00:34:55.320 Angela just threw in the chat, according to a
00:34:57.200 2024 survey, a thousand
00:34:59.480 Americans conducted,
00:35:01.420 38%
00:35:03.480 of Americans rely on some sort of background
00:35:05.500 noise or sound like white noise fans apps rain sounds or music to fall asleep and so but like
00:35:13.200 that wasn't around you know earlier like like before we had phones or before or like before
00:35:21.840 we had like the phones that had music on them and all of that like i also think people just get used
00:35:27.500 to what they get used to i don't think you have to ask like i don't know that i read too much
00:35:31.380 into that that steady because like
00:35:33.160 sometimes I like to fall asleep to like
00:35:35.040 a show I just set
00:35:37.100 the sleep timer
00:35:37.980 oh you actually he's a quarter mexican
00:35:41.320 I was gonna say you actually set the sleep timer
00:35:43.260 you don't just
00:35:45.180 fall asleep and actually leave it
00:35:47.160 yeah no I set a
00:35:49.260 sleep timer I'm gonna do it
00:35:50.860 I do like two comments
00:35:53.120 maybe one in four nights
00:35:54.220 maybe one every four nights I fall asleep
00:35:56.940 a quarter of the time
00:35:58.060 he lives his life one quarter episode at a time
00:36:01.780 we got two comments from Zuzu
00:36:03.480 she's a warrior, she's here every week
00:36:05.600 she said, first she was ready
00:36:07.780 to buy any one of Sabrina Carpenter's
00:36:09.880 songs, but now she apologized
00:36:11.160 so no reason, don't worry, there was probably never
00:36:13.660 a reason to listen to a Sabrina Carpenter song
00:36:15.660 based on the 30 seconds of song
00:36:18.140 that I heard earlier
00:36:19.260 and she also asked, did the Pope
00:36:21.980 ever make a comment about the Sabrina Carpenter
00:36:24.220 video, and I feel like
00:36:25.960 he's commenting on everything else, so he probably
00:36:27.800 ought to but i don't believe it did and i think that video did that video come out under the
00:36:32.740 previous pope yeah i think i think it did you know what came out before the previous came out
00:36:38.960 what you know what else came out before the previous uh during the previous pope that would
00:36:43.600 be muslim on christian violence that's true there is a lot of that that was that debuted a whole
00:36:48.640 1400 years ago yeah so and it's been going strong ever since sure has and you know pope francis did
00:36:55.060 not publicly comment on
00:36:56.420 Sabrina Carpenter's music video.
00:36:58.960 It didn't come out before he was Pope?
00:37:00.980 No, it was Pope Francis.
00:37:02.880 I'm sure he did.
00:37:04.020 It came out right around the election, actually.
00:37:06.820 So around November 2024.
00:37:09.120 But you know, by the way, all of those 0.98
00:37:11.040 violent Muslims, 0.97
00:37:13.360 you know what a lot of them were probably doing? 1.00
00:37:18.320 It is really annoying.
00:37:21.620 Why am I doing it? I don't like it.
00:37:23.560 do it again. I don't like that. I myself am doing it.
00:37:25.580 I don't like it. Hit that comment again.
00:37:27.600 I don't like it. Wait, guys, is that
00:37:29.500 possibly overtly
00:37:31.480 something? Overtly
00:37:33.420 pagan.
00:37:35.640 It might be. It might be
00:37:37.500 overtly pagan. Probably is
00:37:39.600 overtly pagan. I think you need to get t-shirts made.
00:37:41.840 It's definitely overtly sacrilege.
00:37:44.060 No, but the problem with
00:37:44.700 wearing a t-shirt, though, is that when you wear
00:37:47.440 a t-shirt with a slogan, you're associating
00:37:49.500 yourself with the slogan. So if I wore a t-shirt
00:37:51.480 that said overtly pagan, then that
00:37:53.380 would mean like you are pagan if you're wearing it which means i could just like so you just need
00:37:58.180 the shirt to say overtly that's all you needed to say yeah maybe that's your new like brand jack
00:38:03.520 overtly i don't know i don't know just change it overtly christian there you go christian would be
00:38:09.500 great yeah there you go yeah because if anybody reads the shirt then they could jack is it true
00:38:15.760 that you've considered legally changing your middle name to overtly is it true i've considered
00:38:22.180 So I wasn't going to change my middle name because I'm the third, and so I don't want to break the chain there.
00:38:28.900 But I did consider changing my confirmation name to St. Overtly.
00:38:33.960 And unfortunately, we don't have a St. Overtly yet, so it's something I'm working on submitting to the Pope.
00:38:40.860 I'm just going to say you don't want to change it because you're a third, but I don't think there's any name police making sure that you're actually the third of anything.
00:38:48.540 You could even change your name.
00:38:50.340 to i'm a fourth mexican he's my family my heritage and my son by the way because i
00:38:57.020 didn't break it yeah you could you could name wait a minute your son wait a minute
00:39:01.380 jack wait a minute so back the 10th speaking of children and speaking of our progeny and our
00:39:12.580 heritage i feel a segue coming on here folks there's a new trend so we actually got i think
00:39:19.800 it's the first time that so tanya tay who's an avid uh thought crime fan and for the record she
00:39:25.260 listens every she has listened to every single show of thought crime which i don't think she's
00:39:29.360 something she could say for uh human events daily but that's okay um because we do that show every
00:39:34.040 single day but she loves this show she loves thought crime she's listening to every episode
00:39:37.880 um there's a lot of people that love thought crime by the way that i don't know what it is
00:39:42.740 but this show always like we saw that at invest last year yeah and that we have a lot of uh we
00:39:48.760 have a lot of people that watch just this show which is not because you should know that was
00:39:51.940 a star wars that was i was just like yeah star wars is fake and gay next question um um and
00:39:58.060 and so tiny tay was listening to our gosh what was it last week the the fake wedding right we're
00:40:05.300 doing the fake weddings oh yeah the 40 year old woman that it was single 40 year old wedding or
00:40:10.560 something it's like the birthday wedding to nobody so she told me something that she saw
00:40:16.740 that that reminded her of that's actually i'm going to say it i think this is even worse than
00:40:21.080 that it's called doll moms have you guys heard about this now i have yeah i only did because
00:40:28.380 yeah blake had heard of it and then we started looking up some some stuff um apparently it's
00:40:36.100 it's just that it's it's doll moms it's it's women in like their i guess i'm in their 20s
00:40:41.260 in their 30s maybe maybe higher than that where yeah they um they don't have kids so they have
00:40:49.100 these dolls which is like something they used to do in home ec right remember they used to like
00:40:52.780 make you bring the doll home and for like young girls and then like you have to feed it and give
00:40:57.340 it the bottle etc etc to kind of like teach you how to have a baby um probably probably don't do
00:41:02.140 that anymore and if they did they'd probably make the guys do it too and now they do the same thing
00:41:07.900 with like an interactive doll let's play clip 18.
00:41:18.540 so for those listening this is a doll she's she's putting a diaper she woke the doll up when it
00:41:24.060 cried she's putting a diaper on the doll i'm just putting it on a onesie
00:41:32.380 these are like really oddly lifelike dolls like that's actually kind of one of the weirdest parts
00:41:46.640 of this what are those things made is that like a rubber yeah it's like a silicone it's it's i'm
00:42:10.160 like if you told me that was a real baby i'd probably just say okay yeah okay
00:42:16.640 this is this is the this is like a horror movie this is straight up isn't there a movie called
00:42:21.220 chucky like like like my goodness but it's not it's not just chucky though because it's like
00:42:27.400 this is the heart that you know the horror here is that these women are treating these dolls like
00:42:34.740 they're real and the dolls not also i have so many questions i don't know who knows the most
00:42:39.480 about this topic but is this woman like somebody that wanted to be a mom and has never been able
00:42:45.320 to is she infertile is she unmarried and like what's the backstory here what drove this no
00:42:51.080 i don't think so i don't yeah it's just they're treating there's more there's more
00:42:57.880 clip nine we have another one clip 19. is this a different lady
00:43:01.160 clip 20 clip 20 is the other one too with the morning routine look at this goodness yeah this
00:43:07.640 is insane she's got so wait a minute she's got like four dolls in this one that's oh my gosh yeah
00:43:13.960 Yeah, she has like actually for ages different age dolls. That's real food. She's giving the dolls. Yep
00:43:24.100 My goodness that she was packing the she was packing the school bag teeth
00:43:29.420 To brushing their teeth. I love you mom. They have words
00:43:32.820 I think I couldn't figure out with that clip if she was saying I love you mom like in her own voice
00:43:39.720 okay I couldn't tell it's crazy horror film stuff I'm gonna tell you something
00:43:47.280 right now if you find a guy who has one of these things just arrest him right
00:43:51.780 away yeah pedo man oh they're posing with him to make it look like he's
00:43:56.460 walking up they were like fake walking him why would you produce real I mean if
00:44:06.220 If you want something scary.
00:44:06.980 The cat went away from it.
00:44:08.340 You see, the cat knew.
00:44:09.380 The cat was like, I don't want to be around this thing.
00:44:12.480 And then later in the clip, we had to cut it just for time's sake.
00:44:15.700 But she put him in a bassinet and went on a jog with a baby stroller and everything.
00:44:24.540 Our team is saying, this woman should not be trusted around real children.
00:44:29.000 This woman should also not be trusted around real children.
00:44:32.400 To be clear, by the way, we were taking clips from two different women.
00:44:36.220 I'm reading more about these so first of all
00:44:38.200 I'm getting more
00:44:40.420 info on this the really realistic
00:44:42.620 dolls I guess they're made out of they must be
00:44:44.520 made out of silicone kind of or maybe like
00:44:46.400 ballistics gel something like that
00:44:48.460 similar consistency
00:44:50.520 weight to human flesh and then apparently
00:44:52.640 they're called reborn dolls
00:44:54.740 which is specifically
00:44:56.500 they're trying to make them as lifelike as
00:44:58.500 possible okay so here's here's where
00:45:00.480 I could have some grace on this it would still be weird
00:45:02.360 not something I would recommend but like okay
00:45:04.420 if one of these ladies maybe had a child die okay like that's weird but i would at least be like not
00:45:10.700 want to be cruel like this is like i hear you on that but keep in mind andrew they're not this
00:45:17.460 isn't something that they're just doing for like simple like like like emotional coping they're
00:45:22.380 filming this and putting it on tiktok for the specific person it depends so some people do
00:45:27.580 just buy them although it would still bother me kind of in the same way that like when people
00:45:32.960 would propose the you know creating an ai version of of charlie for instance like you can't you
00:45:39.300 shouldn't make an artificial version of a person so you still it might be understandable if that
00:45:45.000 was the case but yeah all of this yeah in this case this i think the second woman in particular
00:45:50.560 she does a bunch of these and she makes apparently two hundred thousand dollars a year posting tiktoks
00:45:56.460 of herself with fake children now at least uh she apparently has five adult children so maybe she
00:46:05.860 just decided to keep being a mom once those kids left so maybe it's kind of like one of those
00:46:11.140 empty nester things like because and jack you probably i mean you when your kids start growing
00:46:16.060 up it happens really fast and you're like you know this is it's really fast like should you
00:46:21.260 have another one or something but if you're past that point in your life where you can't have more
00:46:24.340 kids you may just want to keep the like youthful interactions going by dolls i guess would be the
00:46:31.120 psychology i make more money now than i've ever made she told the new york post uh late last year
00:46:37.120 more than my husband and i have ever made combined and it's all through my doll videos
00:46:43.800 dang man the incentive structure of social media is like it's truly causing that actually you know
00:46:51.700 that raises a worthwhile question because at that point it's more that
00:46:54.960 people watch like,
00:46:55.760 okay,
00:46:55.980 she's making,
00:46:56.620 she's making money.
00:46:57.820 She has an audience for this.
00:46:58.980 So it seems more disturbing that there's an audience for audiences than
00:47:02.940 that.
00:47:03.100 She does it.
00:47:03.800 Like,
00:47:03.980 I don't like,
00:47:05.300 I'm sorry.
00:47:05.840 Like there's,
00:47:07.100 you know,
00:47:08.060 this is about,
00:47:09.100 you know,
00:47:09.460 it could even be,
00:47:10.600 I mean,
00:47:10.740 I'm not going to say it's sympathy farming,
00:47:11.960 but you know,
00:47:13.100 it's,
00:47:13.500 it's clearly being done.
00:47:14.980 So some of it honestly could just be being done because she's making
00:47:18.540 money.
00:47:18.820 There's huge payouts on Tik TOK.
00:47:21.700 And, you know, other, other social media is like the Instagram, whatever.
00:47:27.960 So, you know, she could just be doing this for the money.
00:47:30.400 Like, like I'm not.
00:47:33.100 Yeah, well, it's okay.
00:47:34.200 Russ, like who watches this?
00:47:35.900 Would you, if someone approached you, let's just say Elon Musk came in.
00:47:39.400 He said, Russ, I'm a huge fan of yours.
00:47:41.980 Big fan.
00:47:42.640 I will pay you a million dollars a year to make that reborn doll content.
00:47:51.700 Full-time you wouldn't do it. No, what about ten million dollars a year? Well, I mean
00:48:03.860 Here's the thing
00:48:05.860 Married by the way, you know what pay off my mortgage, you know, it sounds great
00:48:12.860 Here's the thing though with content like this. I don't maybe it's just women but
00:48:18.720 But when they post content like this, most people, if they think it's weird, just keep swiping.
00:48:25.200 It doesn't turn into a big cultural point or anything.
00:48:29.000 But then one dude starts posting about Pokemon cards or video games or an unhealthy obsession with movies, and all of a sudden it's a culture point.
00:48:43.700 so it's like what's the where's the why is why is there a double standard on this because it is
00:48:49.520 weird it's like we need to be calling these people out for this man for their mental illness i so i
00:48:54.160 i'm now i'm going deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole so right now i'm on the subreddit
00:48:59.380 somebody there's a subreddit there's a subreddit well hold on there's a subreddit devoted i'm
00:49:06.960 telling you there's a baked in audience here that she's it's a subreddit reborn dolls it has uh
00:49:12.480 almost 10,000 weekly visitors.
00:49:15.260 Oh, sweet Jesus.
00:49:17.040 And I will say, it looks here, so for example,
00:49:18.960 this is a thread I found where
00:49:20.640 they're reacting to hostile
00:49:22.820 takes on this trend.
00:49:25.100 And one of them says, people are
00:49:26.640 so cruel about Reborns.
00:49:28.620 That's the type of doll again. I think
00:49:30.640 part of it is they say, why don't
00:49:32.880 you have a real child then?
00:49:34.520 While actively ignoring, most
00:49:36.480 of us effing can't, hence
00:49:38.280 the dolls. Rude. So I think that's getting
00:49:40.480 back. A lot of these people
00:49:42.160 they are compensating
00:49:44.260 for that although 0.99
00:49:45.700 they have a mental illness and can't get a partner 0.83
00:49:48.500 this is very 0.99
00:49:50.340 very troubling
00:49:51.400 it's insane
00:49:53.160 my reborn not only helps ease the pain of not being able
00:49:56.480 to have another child
00:49:57.640 she helps greatly with my anxiety
00:50:00.000 I wish more people understood that
00:50:02.380 okay here's another question
00:50:03.620 is this healthier
00:50:06.160 or less healthy
00:50:07.240 is this better or worse
00:50:10.840 than 0.99
00:50:12.040 the people who have dumb emotional support animals so like emotional support this is worse 0.99
00:50:18.280 snakes or something that they bring on this is worse because it's it's trying to it's it's trying 0.99
00:50:24.640 to be something that it's not whereas it's if it's a snake it's still a live animal so there's like
00:50:29.280 there could be quote-unquote therapeutic look at this one uh this is so i went to reddit
00:50:35.640 this is terrifying hi i am bringing home a sweet little boy this weekend he is made from vinyl
00:50:42.140 has a cloth body and weighs four pounds four ounces and my spouse and i are adopting him
00:50:47.020 from a vetted artist from reborn.com and he is lovely she's a local artist and she is the
00:50:53.260 sweetest woman i told her our story grieving parents of many among other physical health
00:50:58.640 issues that left me extremely early onset premenopausal i'm not even 24 yet and she is
00:51:04.280 letting us make a deposit on him and letting us pay the rest next week so i can have a baby
00:51:08.280 love to hold because i'm going through it and it's bad so it is a like it's basically like
00:51:14.800 emotional support uh i want to know that leads to mental but listen to this next question i want to
00:51:20.880 know what is the best way to keep him safe how to sleep at night how can i warm a bottle up when i
00:51:26.220 plan to use cornstarch and lotion or what or lotion or water do i have to mix it every time
00:51:31.440 i'm gonna warm my menstruation crustacean a bit to let him be not cold is that gonna hurt him
00:51:39.880 chat help i want out i want out this is this is all wrong this is all wrong and i'm gonna tell
00:51:45.780 you something right now this is this is not how you get over something emotionally because you're
00:51:52.360 not getting over it you're not actually dealing with it you are wallowing in the despair you're
00:51:58.580 it's great i think it's and you're you're yeah you're you're not dealing with it and you're
00:52:03.580 acting as if like it didn't happen and it's imagine imagine i hate to say this i really
00:52:08.320 hate to say this but i'm gonna say it that imagine if you have other kids right real kids
00:52:14.740 and they see mom spending all this time with the doll what does that do to them what does that do
00:52:20.260 to them there's a dickens novel i think it's great expectations and where there's a subplot
00:52:25.820 Yeah, there's an older woman, and she was abandoned.
00:52:29.500 I think she was basically abandoned on the day of her wedding,
00:52:31.760 and there's a twist, basically, where she's kept this room
00:52:35.660 that's now covered in dust exactly as it was the day she was going to get married.
00:52:39.780 Like, she has the dress, and I think she even gets dressed in it.
00:52:42.240 Yeah, that's great expectations.
00:52:43.260 Oh, yeah, doesn't she even make Pip, like, dress up the way the man would have?
00:52:47.200 I can't remember all the details.
00:52:48.440 Something like that, yeah.
00:52:48.880 But same phenomenon that is attachment to something that is not real
00:52:54.380 or not moving on beyond something,
00:52:57.100 which that's an important part of life.
00:52:59.480 It's an important part of maturity.
00:53:01.660 And, oh, this is really giving me the key to G.
00:53:04.620 So, like, literally, somebody comes in
00:53:07.100 and tries to give, like, advice,
00:53:09.280 saying, hey, make sure you get it from the authentic site,
00:53:11.220 not the inauthentic one.
00:53:12.340 There's apparently two different sites.
00:53:14.280 For sleeping at night, make sure his limbs are covered.
00:53:19.240 None of them are authentic.
00:53:21.340 No, but, like, apparently one's a scam site,
00:53:23.200 is what she's saying.
00:53:24.020 You know what I'm saying?
00:53:24.900 It's not authentic.
00:53:25.800 Of course.
00:53:26.680 The creepiest thing on this Reborn Dolls subreddit is they aren't saying my doll.
00:53:32.000 They're repeatedly saying, like, my girl.
00:53:34.480 My sweet little boy.
00:53:35.380 My baby.
00:53:36.120 My first baby. 0.53
00:53:37.080 You're messing with yourself in the head.
00:53:38.020 No, look at this.
00:53:38.660 Look at this.
00:53:39.020 For sleeping at night, make sure his limbs are fully covered.
00:53:42.440 A sleeper with footies and fold-over mitts or regular scratch mitts will do.
00:53:47.080 Also put a hat on him.
00:53:48.640 Avoid dark colors and dark blankets and sheets as they will stain the vinyl.
00:53:52.520 she has transfer in common unless you take pre precautions i guess look before we go before we
00:53:59.040 go to the next the next yeah i need out of the matrix on this one topic here i'm just gonna say
00:54:04.100 it right i'm just gonna say it we we talked about it at the at the top of the show you know there's
00:54:08.860 a guy who's supposed to be co-hosting the show who's not here you know and all of us have
00:54:14.480 experienced that loss directly and i'm gonna tell you right now like you you can't fall down that
00:54:21.800 hole of trying to pretend like charlie's still here in you know a physical sense at least that
00:54:28.900 he's still you know a part of everything oh and we could do that we could have made a charlie kirk
00:54:34.480 ai and and had to do a show every day based on whatever the news of the day was and and you know
00:54:40.320 blake could have prompted the you know something and written it up or whatever and and we're not
00:54:45.360 going to do that we're just not going to do that like that that would be completely wrong to to
00:54:50.160 charlie's memory and and also it would be unhealthy it would be unhealthy for all of us
00:54:56.500 to to try to play along like that to it's you got to get over things and and don't get me wrong like
00:55:03.980 there's there's always going to be a big part of me that never gets over that that never like it's
00:55:09.580 never going to leave you you know it changes you like not it's grief or something like that but
00:55:14.460 you have to accept it because if you don't accept it you are going to be living in anxiety and grief
00:55:20.860 forever yeah the only way through is through yep yeah look at this though there's so many
00:55:27.720 comments on the side of going through hell keep going here's a here's a question to that point
00:55:32.920 now like like what does that mean for ai and the use of movies entertainment and so forth
00:55:42.020 we have the story i'm trying man we're segway so aggressively i teated i mean i thought i teated
00:55:51.140 i caught it there's a new movie coming out it is called as deep as the grave and it is a movie
00:55:58.700 that stars a person who has not been with us for over a year at this point it stars the late and
00:56:05.420 ai de-aged val kilmer aged him too i i believe so uh he definitely doesn't look like this was
00:56:11.660 gone let's play the trailer before he died 21. no full ai wait wait
00:56:19.180 so this what we're watching right now is ai val kilmer it's not it's not being released
00:56:35.420 Some stories were too hidden to be found.
00:56:38.480 Have we found this one?
00:56:41.360 Oh, wow.
00:56:42.080 Was that him?
00:56:44.260 No, you'll see it.
00:56:50.360 That's literally hilarious.
00:56:51.680 They go, some stories are too hidden to be found.
00:56:53.960 Discover the untold story.
00:56:55.500 There he is.
00:56:59.720 Wow.
00:57:05.420 don't fear the dead and don't fear me that was val kilmer at the end that was
00:57:15.600 don't fear the dead and don't fear me i don't like it i i don't like it caboose is very anti
00:57:24.980 uh ai so that's why no i will say he had apparently agreed to do this movie
00:57:31.440 back when they first began production in 2020 or so and then he was diagnosed with cancer so i think
00:57:37.780 he had to pull out yeah as you can see if you saw top gun he had the cancer there that it actually
00:57:42.260 had to ai generate his voice in that didn't he get cancer like before that because anyways well
00:57:48.020 yeah i mean he got they were filming this movie in 2020 during covid jack hold on a sec and then
00:57:53.380 he died in yeah a year ago almost exactly uh and filming took place in new mexico and arizona
00:57:59.780 after his death, Kilmer's likeness
00:58:02.240 and voice were generated exclusively using
00:58:04.120 generative AI as he had not
00:58:06.180 filmed any scenes
00:58:07.980 at the time of his
00:58:10.200 death. So this is a fully
00:58:11.920 AI-generated Val Kilmer
00:58:13.780 and
00:58:15.060 he's in the film. Apparently he plays
00:58:18.160 it's even weird to read like the
00:58:19.880 cast. It says, I'm reading like the
00:58:22.080 Wikipedia page for it. Abigail Laurie
00:58:24.040 as Annex Del Morris. Tom Felton
00:58:26.180 as Earl Morris. AI-generated
00:58:28.240 likeness of val kilmer as father fintan hmm it's barely based on the truth can we throw the shot
00:58:34.560 up again though because i just want to explain this for the audio uh the benefit not not not
00:58:38.800 the top gun the actual the ai one um and i want to explain this for the audio only audience if
00:58:45.040 you're listening on the podcast it looks exactly like him it doesn't look like ai at all there's
00:58:49.680 no artifacts here you would have if you hadn't you know known you know i break the fourth wall
00:58:56.000 etc like if you had never heard that val kilmer died you would have no idea it looks exactly like
00:59:01.640 val kilmer it is 100 perfect so i don't know at a glance did they how much ai is it like did they
00:59:09.420 do kind of the green screen like they had a different person play him yeah i don't i don't
00:59:15.200 know i know like when when we were looking it up is like the whole film is is normal it's just
00:59:21.340 Val Kilmer that's being AI'd but it's kind of funny if you when like watching the trailer
00:59:25.380 the trailer does look very AI like it was one of those things like the very front half if we want
00:59:31.840 to play it as just b-roll the very front half of that trailer uh looks very much like I had to do
00:59:38.200 a double take because I was like is this just an AI film um so yeah yeah I had that thought I I saw
00:59:44.880 the new Mario movie last weekend because I was dumb and during the film before the film they
00:59:51.000 played a trailer i guess they're making a he-man and the masters of the universe yeah and i literally
00:59:55.960 had to google and i was not the first person to search this because it auto-completed is the new
01:00:01.100 he-man movie ai because the trailer was so aggressively disorienting and kind of fast
01:00:06.920 paced and bad it looked like an ai generated because so there's a there's a there's a difference
01:00:15.760 that i'm not sure even has a distinction here because we're talking about cgi and cgi has been
01:00:20.520 around for a long time and so and cgi has started to look just more and more terrible as the years
01:00:26.100 have gone by too well not this this i mean that's why i'm saying is like the first the start of this
01:00:33.320 and i don't know if they put it under like an ai i'm just talking i'm just talking about no this
01:00:37.800 looks amazing you're right it looks amazing and that that is it is just a form of cgi so ai
01:00:44.300 generated is what i'm saying is it's just a form of a computer generated image so it's not and i'm
01:00:50.280 just saying that it's not the first time that we've seen computer generated images in film it's
01:00:55.160 probably just the most you know the stark um you know uh uh example of this but russ wasn't they
01:01:02.900 didn't they do this with princess leia in one of the um disney star wars movies yeah she died uh
01:01:08.300 carrie fisher died she died midway through the last jedi yeah she died right after trump got
01:01:15.660 elected and we had to go through that whole thing where they were like nah how can we face this
01:01:19.660 without Carrie Fisher.
01:01:21.120 She was the one
01:01:22.640 holding back the darkness,
01:01:24.020 I guess.
01:01:24.680 Some Trump had her git mode.
01:01:25.740 Don't we remember
01:01:26.420 how Carrie Fisher
01:01:27.240 is this moral leader
01:01:28.420 in our society
01:01:29.240 and not a person
01:01:30.560 who just died prematurely
01:01:32.400 because she did lots of drugs?
01:01:33.620 Which I think,
01:01:35.440 if I remember correctly,
01:01:36.340 from Last Jedi,
01:01:37.520 specifically that scene
01:01:38.980 where she's like
01:01:39.940 force-pulling herself
01:01:41.080 out of space
01:01:41.840 is a CGI.
01:01:44.680 The weirdest thing
01:01:45.240 was they managed to get her
01:01:46.220 into episode nine.
01:01:47.060 Isn't she in Rogue One
01:01:47.960 as well, though?
01:01:48.960 Yes,
01:01:49.300 but that is absolutely cgi like that is cgi i'm saying but it's not but star wars didn't use
01:01:55.800 star wars only used cgi they didn't use they weren't using ai the way i think i don't i don't
01:02:01.860 so what like that doesn't that doesn't make much of a difference the whole idea is i argue that's
01:02:07.980 not making a difference it's just a different tool but the the real question here is okay
01:02:12.320 val kilmer passed away we know that val kilmer intended to perform in this film they
01:02:18.860 um you know i think we can infer that they would have used the de-aging on him because it's like a
01:02:24.460 movie that takes place in two timelines so you know what do we think about i'd love to throw
01:02:31.440 this to the chat do you know what do you think about that i'm gonna say right now um i i don't
01:02:37.400 have as much of a problem with it as i thought i would i think it looks cool well it helps that
01:02:41.640 that his he wanted to be a part of the film that he was already cast in it and his daughter
01:02:46.220 his daughter's blessing it and said that val kilmer was always into emerging technology and
01:02:51.900 thought the story was really important let me throw let me throw another variable in this bruce
01:02:56.780 willis i mean they got a lot of content of that guy too so so are you familiar with the status of
01:03:05.180 bruce willis uh i know he he is bruce willis yeah bruce willis is still alive but he had to leave
01:03:10.480 public he's still alive he has like a degenerative mental condition and so he can't make movies
01:03:16.940 anymore and yet his family's you know taking good care of him etc but you know he can't do
01:03:23.140 he can't do any films but what if you made another diehard with like a completely healthy
01:03:29.120 bruce willis that was made using this process i mean it's one thing if bruce willis sort of
01:03:35.440 i don't know if he's cognizant is he is he i don't think he is not based on i think he's gone
01:03:42.340 i think he's gone gone yeah he's kind of gone i i think that in that sense he does if maybe he's
01:03:50.340 made some decisions but when he was of sound mind mind to say that you can do this and his family
01:03:54.920 could follow through that but i think that's the linchpin here for me the not feeling i think he
01:03:58.260 did actually now that i think about it um i mean so we're starting he did in 2021 sorry he did
01:04:07.400 actually um in 2021 bruce willis worked with ai firm deep cake to create a digital twin uh for a
01:04:14.720 commercial and used images to superimpose his likeness and you know it so so he did it for a
01:04:25.600 he did it for a commercial before he you know it's aphasia is what he has and this was before he had
01:04:32.520 succumbed to it and so there haven't been any agreements beyond that commercial but he did
01:04:39.180 agree to it for one commercial at least here's what i'm gonna say on that on the using deep fake
01:04:45.840 ai or cgi for actors if it is purely ai i think it takes away some of the
01:04:56.440 the specialness of creativity and um and art yeah of course um and so in my i still would rather
01:05:10.140 a actor be recast i a perfect example the hunt for golem they just announced that they're
01:05:17.880 recasting vigo mortensen as aragorn with a younger actor um i would still rather give amen uh give a
01:05:28.080 i would still rather give an actor an opportunity to act rather than just being like hey we're
01:05:35.880 gonna have die hard die hardest with ai's you know bruce willett die yet harder still
01:05:44.060 die in the matrix no i'm so torn on this pause uh because like i get russ i get what you're
01:05:51.880 saying because if like if you freeze all of society um actually uh uh if i remember correctly
01:05:59.540 there was a um like i don't know if you remember there was a star wars eu novel about this where
01:06:04.840 like everyone on the planet was a clone they decided to like freeze their society at one
01:06:09.640 point in time and then everyone was a clone of someone who had been born in that generation
01:06:13.340 so i'd be meeting like blake 82 and like you'd be talking to jack 51 okay you know and you just
01:06:19.600 like added the number at the end i don't know that one that sounds almost like a star trek episode
01:06:23.260 but i want to say it was star wars i could be wrong i thought it was a star wars eu episode
01:06:27.480 or eu novel and and the problem with the society was like as much as they loved their people right
01:06:34.420 it was that to russ's point they it was frozen like it was it was like frozen in time and so
01:06:40.060 there was no innovation there was no continuation there was no personal growth there was no striving
01:06:46.220 it was like this you know this worship of everything needs to be the same all the time
01:06:51.480 and that that's a problem too i think there's also like there's a biblical there's a biblical
01:06:55.740 aspect to it as well as that you know god created the heavens and the earth in seven days he created
01:07:02.240 everything and then he gave us as humanity the drive to create and so then if we're just leaving
01:07:10.820 it up to computer generation there's no creation and to your point life gets stagnant society gets
01:07:17.080 stagnant and then we don't continue to grow yeah you know like the thing is to your point when i
01:07:22.100 look at that trailer with val kilmer just like knowing it's not actually him does take something
01:07:27.040 out of it for me it really does but what if you didn't know yeah i mean but then that's just
01:07:34.980 deception to be fair it's kind of an interesting thing i'm not talking about from them i'm talking
01:07:39.920 about what if you didn't know and what if just just you're watching tv and you know this comes
01:07:46.140 on and you see the trailer and you're like oh cool doc kilmer movie you know yeah but it's kind of
01:07:52.900 i'm thinking of so many deception weird ways this could go like for example what if everyone decided
01:08:00.500 you know there's too much dispute they keep trying to make james bond a woman or a black guy
01:08:05.120 or whatever what if the studio said guys we are cutting the gordian knot the next james bond film
01:08:11.060 stars sean connery as he was 1965 1965 sean connery is the star of this movie and we just get a that
01:08:20.240 version of james bond i didn't realize i was this anti i'm now getting to a point where i'm anti we
01:08:27.140 starting us starting to use cgi to de-age people in movies like guardians of the galaxy when they
01:08:34.720 brought uh russell um crow not russell crow uh kurt russell oh and brought him back as like his
01:08:41.840 old self um i and this is just happening live but like yeah i'm to the point where i'm just like
01:08:47.620 actually can we
01:08:49.340 rewind? I don't want to do that anymore.
01:08:51.740 I just want to
01:08:52.220 There's so many ways I can see this.
01:08:56.100 It's often pointed out we never get new action
01:08:57.800 heroes. That's why all of our action stars are 75
01:08:59.780 years old. Who's the youngest action star?
01:09:02.000 We have Jason Statham and he's 50
01:09:03.740 or something.
01:09:06.340 Arnold's really old. What if they said
01:09:07.820 okay we're just going to bring back the golden age
01:09:09.920 of action movies and we're just going
01:09:11.920 to have AI
01:09:13.800 Arnold Schwarzenegger maximally jacked
01:09:16.240 and he's going to make new
01:09:17.260 I mean, it's going to happen.
01:09:18.840 They did that with one of the Terminators.
01:09:21.320 They already did that in one of the Terminators,
01:09:22.920 the one with Christian Bale.
01:09:24.020 Oh, yes.
01:09:24.700 They brought back the younger.
01:09:26.460 This is awesome.
01:09:27.760 Russell getting the two famous Russells confused is gold.
01:09:32.060 I mean, yes.
01:09:33.400 It's all the Russes.
01:09:35.280 No, but that's to the point.
01:09:37.020 So I think, look, we're entering a new era.
01:09:39.660 I do think there needs to be rules of the road.
01:09:41.580 I don't think that it should be done without the family's consent.
01:09:46.580 for sure i think that that that should 100 always be a choice here um i'm just saying like i would
01:09:52.840 watch that movie i think it's cool is it more defensible if it's similar to this where an actor
01:09:58.300 was going to make the film and they die part way or just before production begins like let's say
01:10:04.140 let's say i think it's definitely more like let's say the dark knight heath ledger died right after
01:10:09.260 they'd finished filming let's say they were 60 finished filming would it be better to film
01:10:16.400 those scenes with a
01:10:18.060 stand-in person, or
01:10:20.080 recast the role, or AI
01:10:22.260 that stuff?
01:10:25.220 I think AI
01:10:26.280 at that point is pretty defensible
01:10:27.880 for most people.
01:10:30.320 Because you have a script, he agreed to the script,
01:10:32.620 he was doing the script.
01:10:34.620 You know what I mean?
01:10:35.580 I'm going to make it harder for you. Now let's say
01:10:37.860 we're making
01:10:39.240 the Lord of the Rings movies again.
01:10:41.920 You'd have to get the familial...
01:10:43.080 Or let's say Harry Potter. Let's say they made the first
01:10:46.200 harry potter movie and then the kid who's gonna yeah i know they're making it and then the kid
01:10:50.700 who plays harry in the first movie dies in an accident can you ai that kid for the rest of the
01:10:56.920 harry potter movies not for the rest of them i wouldn't say that the rest you could probably
01:11:01.300 find a lookalike you just have to get somebody new and everybody would understand and but here's
01:11:06.060 here's what's going to happen can that hot take here when you just mentioned james bond that's
01:11:09.880 what i wanted to actually respond to because hot take what we're going to get is like choose your
01:11:14.760 own movies so we're going to get to the point now where movies are going to come out and then like
01:11:20.360 you at home the same way that you'd like make a character in a video game you're going to be able
01:11:24.160 to say you know if you're blm like i want the blm james bond which actually wouldn't have a problem
01:11:30.520 with idris elba as james as james bond i think you'd be a good one and i also just think i also
01:11:35.180 think that they should just change it to that um that they establish the fan theory that james bond
01:11:39.860 is a codename, just like 007
01:11:41.900 is a codename, so that each
01:11:43.720 James Bond, like, who gets to 0.99
01:11:45.820 be an asshole, takes the name 1.00
01:11:47.780 I reject this version of Bond 1.00
01:11:50.080 No, no, just like Q
01:11:51.620 Bond is a person, he has a background
01:11:53.860 No, they change
01:11:55.880 the background in different films
01:11:57.560 No, they shouldn't do that
01:11:59.840 James Bond, he has decayed
01:12:01.940 British aristocracy
01:12:02.820 He is a Scotsman
01:12:04.760 We're not doing any of this nonsense
01:12:07.160 Nope, bring it back, we're bringing it back
01:12:09.360 James Bond is one guy
01:12:11.940 with a canonical character
01:12:13.180 he's not just any random guy
01:12:16.320 with this codename
01:12:17.380 I reject this version
01:12:19.820 there's a rights dispute
01:12:21.560 over the movies
01:12:23.400 the next Bond movie should just be 100% a period piece
01:12:26.360 which is moving back to the non-canonical
01:12:28.060 Sean Connery James Bond movie
01:12:29.500 post Cold War James Bond
01:12:31.800 was a mistake other than Goldeneye was okay
01:12:34.200 but other than that
01:12:36.320 we should just keep Bond in the Cold War
01:12:38.200 just keep bond with his actual character biography that makes sense otherwise you might as well just
01:12:43.580 say james bond is this incredibly thin thing where already been proven to be completely not the case
01:12:49.780 they have recast bond time and time again but they always kept him the same like he looked
01:12:54.360 basically the same are you talking about idris elba and yeah they're trying there oh let's make
01:12:58.920 black bond let's make i don't love black immigrant bond we're gonna get jamaican bond he's a great
01:13:03.720 actor it's just james james bond is a white scottish guy who has a background and you can't
01:13:10.580 just blow that up and say james bond is any british spy and like i don't think people would tolerate
01:13:15.980 that with other characters like we don't really make batman movies where we say oh batman is any
01:13:22.100 person who happens to find the bat cave and they just have lots of super different you can tweak
01:13:27.940 it on the margins but it's always going to be bruce wayne who has these canonical character
01:13:33.160 beats and if you subvert those it's very willful and you're doing a special spin on the character
01:13:37.900 or something this is why i was so interested in the idea of recasting indiana jones as chris pratt
01:13:43.720 back in the day before they did dial of destiny instead of instead of like moving on from harrison
01:13:49.580 ford oh yeah but just keeping it as indiana jones the same guy he already did yeah he already did
01:13:54.660 the uh jurassic park and he looked and he was great kind of looked the exact same but like to
01:13:58.160 that point i think that's the best indiana jones obviously world series oh obviously
01:14:02.960 zuzu's back she says the movie terminator answered this question ai will kill us all
01:14:09.960 no ai only movies what if that is the way they did it like they order it like you told the ai
01:14:15.240 ai make a do do a movie and it's going to have clint eastwood and uh charlton heston at the
01:14:24.500 peak of their powers as
01:14:26.480 AI and just do it
01:14:28.420 however you need to do it and the AI
01:14:30.180 realizes that it can never recreate that perfection
01:14:32.540 and so it just nukes the planet
01:14:34.360 but it also gets back to the
01:14:36.520 doesn't it also get back to the idea
01:14:38.340 that like we just can't create
01:14:40.380 anything new that's good
01:14:42.020 like it
01:14:43.080 essentially we doom our society
01:14:45.380 we literally are just like we're writing
01:14:48.200 off all entertainment
01:14:50.560 as well it's just gonna be 1.00
01:14:52.020 fake and gay 0.98
01:14:53.020 we we're done can i point something out about that yeah is that like so when when i first had kids 0.91
01:15:00.220 i remember we were like you know just walking through the store and we went to like the video
01:15:04.840 game aisle and i was looking at like okay what games they have for kids and and i was looking
01:15:10.420 i was like okay they have sonic they have mario they have like ninja turtles they have pokemon
01:15:16.160 and i was like okay well where are like the new games like those are all games like when i was a
01:15:21.000 where the new characters and the new games and they don't exist because there aren't any yeah
01:15:26.100 yeah i mean that's why i mean that's why we live in an era of hollywood that's all um reboots and
01:15:34.400 prequels and sequels and no actually new no actual new ip's and that's and that's a problem
01:15:43.200 that's a big problem it's a it's a big problem they're like oh yeah oh and the next star wars
01:15:49.060 here's your next star wars i'm like what do you mean like but where's the next like the next thing
01:15:54.760 like star wars is super old the biggest problem is that caboose is never going to leave his living
01:16:00.080 room because he has physical media and nothing new is any is at all good enough that he's never
01:16:06.180 going to leave his living room he's just going to keep re-watching all of the old films he was
01:16:10.700 literally watching lord of the rings in the studio the other day that was really special i was like
01:16:16.300 Am I hearing the Shire theme right now?
01:16:20.320 And yes, I was hearing the Shire theme.
01:16:21.820 My kids don't even know what physical media is.
01:16:23.700 That's what's so funny.
01:16:24.400 Yeah, so for the sake of physical media and Caboose leaving his living room,
01:16:29.100 other than books, I have no idea what physical media is.
01:16:33.560 Andrew, do your kids know what physical media is?
01:16:36.940 No.
01:16:38.380 Yeah.
01:16:39.840 It just doesn't exist.
01:16:41.900 No, I don't think so.
01:16:44.060 So guys, that's what I'm saying.
01:16:45.160 Like the next generation like doesn't even have any relationship with physical media.
01:16:48.960 We have books.
01:16:49.820 When you give your kids a book, do they like freak out?
01:16:52.760 And they're like, how do I?
01:16:54.100 No, not books.
01:16:54.740 Other than books.
01:16:55.940 They also won't have the attention span to watch the movies because they're used to watching clips of a movie on TikTok.
01:17:02.940 Well, I watched the Swiss Family Robinson with them.
01:17:06.940 Oh, such a good movie.
01:17:08.340 They loved it.
01:17:09.340 Such a good movie.
01:17:09.960 Like the original.
01:17:10.980 Yeah, the original.
01:17:12.040 Yeah.
01:17:12.380 So good.
01:17:12.900 Which was a Disney movie.
01:17:13.860 you know when they get on the they get on the beach and they all like the father's like ready
01:17:17.960 to go get to work and she goes not yet you know it's first and they get down and they pray yeah
01:17:22.820 i'm like man that was the movie that got me interested in indiana jones you know and got
01:17:28.340 me interested in those type of films wow andrew so you mean that when they put overtly christian
01:17:32.500 things into movies it's actually cool it's amazing the whole movie okay hold on the whole movie of
01:17:38.780 swiss family robinson is not overtly christian it is it is there's elements of christianity
01:17:45.040 it's not overtly but it's not overtly they're not overtly pagan exactly i like it
01:17:52.560 i like it i love the sound effect like a little like situation mentions is the overtly christian
01:18:01.040 element just saying that it's what i like i feel my resolve weakening i think i'm a slightly less
01:18:06.920 ai than most people like there's films that were that should have been made with specific actors
01:18:13.320 that just never got thank you yes yeah so for example one that i've always thought about
01:18:18.420 we were supposed to get i don't know if anyone else has read this have you ever read a confederacy
01:18:22.760 of dunces great novel they were supposed to make a movie out of confederacy of dunces which is this
01:18:29.260 comedy novel um i can't remember the name of the author but comedy novel set in new orleans by this
01:18:35.100 like weird shut in catholic guy who i've been compared to occasionally but he's way fatter
01:18:40.220 than me and named ignatius riley and they were supposed to make a film adaptation of it with
01:18:45.100 john candy and that would have been amazing he would have been the perfect person for this role
01:18:50.920 but it was cursed and never made and he died unfortunately in his 40s we can rebuild him
01:18:58.280 i've always said that it's it's an absolute crime that we didn't get the chance to see
01:19:04.880 philip seymour hoffman play steve bannon yeah or or a really bad general losing philip seymour
01:19:12.300 a really bad one a really bad one yeah mission he lost uh chris farley before he could play
01:19:18.380 uh that the ford guy the the guy was the mayor of toronto the guy who had plenty to eat at home
01:19:24.040 can't you just imagine chris farley or just doing the snl skit yeah yeah just you know which you
01:19:29.380 know which one i never got speaking of snl was belushi that belushi was originally going to be
01:19:33.980 in ghostbusters and i feel like having belushi there would have totally just totally changed
01:19:40.120 the vibe of that film yeah i actually watched didn't i tell you i watched that for the first
01:19:43.980 time and like i don't know since i was a little kid would he have been would he have been bill
01:19:47.000 murray's character i think he would have been venkman yeah which is like it just i don't i'm
01:19:53.540 like i don't like it nothing sleep at the wheel sleep at the button there it is i think that
01:20:04.440 means it's time to wrap actually they're falling by the way before we wrap i do want to say uh i
01:20:09.820 want to throw in the chat that i thought that if you have children and are enjoying one a good
01:20:15.240 kids movie that the kid my kids loved super mario galaxy and thought it was great the new one huh
01:20:21.640 we saw the drive-in yeah i think my kids went that movie was really bad my wife said it wasn't
01:20:27.480 as good again like like like you're like it's not meant to be like dissected as high art
01:20:31.960 yeah it is literally a chill a movie for five-year-olds and i i went to it i'm not making
01:20:37.200 this up i went to it because about once every two years i decide to go play poker at gila river
01:20:43.600 and then i play until i get some like bad beat and lose my starting amount of money and i'm not
01:20:48.400 a gambler so then i just walk away so that is literally what happened i was like i'm annoyed 0.86
01:20:52.400 i lost on a bad beat on the river i'm gonna go watch the dumb mario movie for some dumb fun 0.78
01:20:57.360 and i was about 10 minutes in i just realized what have i done this is going to be terrible 0.84
01:21:03.500 and it was yeah i just sat there you don't have kids for 90 minutes clapping and cheering i don't
01:21:08.960 know um i i think the new michael jackson movie looks good uh michael which by the way you know
01:21:15.060 what's what's what's really cool about the new michael jackson movie is it's not ai or cgi they
01:21:20.740 got his nephew that's remarkable i just like that they didn't bring up any of his like sexual stuff
01:21:25.840 huh right i read something about this well that's good because i don't think he's innocent i don't
01:21:29.600 think he did anything wrong substantiated so i do want to i do want to be clear that we are in
01:21:33.640 thought crime and we are not accusing him of anything because none of that's been substantiated
01:21:38.220 and um and thought crime i don't think i don't think michael did it no i think he's innocent i
01:21:43.800 think uh you know uh but it's like the people have been closest to him i think i honestly i
01:21:49.360 think actually the argument of uh uh what's his name dave chappelle is actually one of the most
01:21:54.060 compelling ones which is he spent a bunch of time with macaulay culkin when macaulay culkin was
01:21:58.920 the most famous child in the world and like macaulay culkin for example has always said
01:22:04.180 michael jackson never did anything wrong i never saw anything wrong like there's anyone who didn't
01:22:08.580 have a direct incentive like a monetary incentive to go after michael jackson has always insisted
01:22:14.720 nothing wrong ever happened it is kind of weird though that he hung out it's weird he was weird
01:22:19.560 like under oath that that uh michael jackson did nothing well but they didn't even bring up any of
01:22:27.480 the allegations in the film or something they shouldn't they shouldn't i think it's a year on
01:22:31.020 i just that's the only reason i heard about the film no because it's it's early it's like the
01:22:35.120 it's like the early part of his career okay all right i think it's like the early part of his
01:22:39.640 career am i frozen no you're there my wi-fi pick up there you're good uh yeah i don't really like
01:22:46.900 those types of movies other than elvis really loved elvis the other ones that they did kind
01:22:51.640 of like that the biopic uh was the um biopic no biopic no biopic biopic because it's a biography
01:22:58.660 and a picture did you say biopic i did i think you've done that before i've done that but thanks
01:23:03.460 for correcting me
01:23:04.040 the last time
01:23:04.620 so I couldn't
01:23:05.020 save myself 0.96
01:23:05.640 making a fool of myself 0.95
01:23:06.480 no the biopic 0.98
01:23:07.760 the biopic
01:23:08.520 the last time
01:23:09.140 but I was like
01:23:09.580 he didn't say that
01:23:10.320 Bohemian Rhapsody
01:23:10.920 they did one
01:23:11.460 Bohemian Rhapsody
01:23:11.980 that's what I'm seeing
01:23:12.580 oh that one was
01:23:13.360 really bad
01:23:14.320 that's what I heard
01:23:15.200 that was hard to watch
01:23:16.580 they gave it like
01:23:16.980 a cinematography award
01:23:18.220 and it's jarringly bad
01:23:19.900 like the cuts
01:23:20.560 are really strange
01:23:21.640 hot take
01:23:22.700 Project Hail Mary
01:23:23.480 is a little bit overrated
01:23:24.720 no overhyped
01:23:26.020 it's actually making money
01:23:27.140 though because it's not being
01:23:28.340 it's an original movie
01:23:29.140 I'm not going to
01:23:29.920 harsh it too bad
01:23:30.680 yeah
01:23:31.100 I liked it
01:23:32.100 I'm not saying
01:23:32.960 i didn't like it i liked it but and i read the book i liked the book um so we did like a double
01:23:38.220 feature we did um mario galaxy and then project hail mary was the next one so i saw the big screen
01:23:43.600 so i just got the book i thought it was good i thought it was a solid movie i like sci-fi
01:23:47.320 i give it like a b plus because it's it just wasn't that original uh like you say it's an
01:23:53.220 original film but it's very derivative it's very it's like interstellar plus the arrival
01:23:57.460 supposed to be a children's book? Wasn't there
01:23:59.700 the Mars film? No, no. It's like an
01:24:01.640 adult novel. What's the Mars film?
01:24:03.360 The Martian. The Martian, yeah, with
01:24:05.040 Matt Damon. The same author. Yeah, same author.
01:24:07.240 Okay, okay. Alright, let's wrap it up.
01:24:08.820 They did this horrible movie
01:24:10.720 or horrible book in the middle, like really, really bad.
01:24:13.920 We have
01:24:14.720 yeah,
01:24:16.640 we are over time, but this was
01:24:18.840 fun, especially if it was a great episode.
01:24:21.260 I'm really disturbed, actually, because
01:24:22.800 of the doll thing still, but the doll mom
01:24:24.880 thing. I shouldn't have gone on the sub-lines.
01:24:26.200 yeah that was that was all you dude blake started doing i was like well shoot maybe
01:24:32.420 everyone's a critic and i gotta say the val kill i i'm gonna see that val kilmer movie
01:24:37.360 um i'm i'm gonna see it you know i think i think it looks good doesn't bother me
01:24:42.580 faz says never go on the subreddits
01:24:45.220 uh all right jack you want to take us home ladies and gentlemen as always go out there
01:24:53.200 and commit more thought crime.
01:25:23.200 Thank you.
01:25:53.200 You