Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 126 — The End of Star Wars？

00:00:00.000 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:01:30.000 well well well so uh for folks who couldn't see the opening scroll on there as you may know

00:01:53.540 Today, we are going to be talking about Stupid Wars. 0.74

00:01:59.040 Yes, that's right, Stupid Wars, because Mark Hamill, 0.97

00:02:05.200 the star of the formerly cool franchise known as Star Wars, 0.98

00:02:12.260 decided to go and, I'm just going to say it,

00:02:16.480 he made a post wishing for the death of President Trump.

00:02:19.480 That's what he did, all right?

00:02:20.820 And we can beat around the bush.

00:02:22.320 we could try to you know obscure it it's deleted now but he posted that up on blue sky where by

00:02:27.260 the way that kind of thing is kind of normal on blue sky uh but this is the star of the original

00:02:35.800 star wars movies he was the star uh or at least heavily featured in the disney sequel movies

00:02:42.060 and he is obviously a major fixture not only in american culture and hollywood and disney but

00:02:50.520 also politics now because he just did a video with barack obama calling for the death of president

00:02:58.580 trump ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard it's thought crime thursday blake neff if you can

00:03:04.540 can you uh can you explain to us what for for the uh for the folks that are audio only on the podcast

00:03:10.500 side what that opening scroll was all about that everybody wasn't able to hear oh well the opening

00:03:15.180 scroll is, of course, the fact that

00:03:17.300 we have

00:03:18.880 an unusual crew here, Andrew,

00:03:21.260 even though ThoughtCrime is at the same time

00:03:23.020 every single day and every single week.

00:03:25.480 He's like, I can't make it, guys.

00:03:27.440 I have a scheduling conflict.

00:03:29.700 I have a flight, even though he could

00:03:31.160 have booked a flight at any time.

00:03:33.420 But he chose not to show up.

00:03:36.240 Tyler, as we all know,

00:03:37.440 he's frequently drafted to go

00:03:39.120 fight in the Spice Wars. We don't give him as much

00:03:41.200 of a hard time about it because the Spice Wars 0.99

00:03:42.900 are very demanding. He's got to go, 0.96

00:03:45.780 I think he's in the Florida

00:03:47.080 front of the Spice Wars right now, but I can't remember

00:03:49.240 where. So, he's missing as usual.

00:03:51.680 So, we have

00:03:52.900 our limited crew. We have Jack, we have Russ, we have

00:03:55.120 myself, and then we also have Rich Barris, who

00:03:57.120 is often on our show to talk about the

00:03:59.140 polls. He sometimes tells us when

00:04:01.140 the polls are good. Sometimes he tells us when the polls

00:04:03.040 are bad. Rich,

00:04:05.160 what do you think Luke Skywalker's

00:04:07.520 poll numbers would be in the Star Wars galaxy

00:04:09.320 right now if he was posting

00:04:10.700 images of i don't know who would he be posting images of a dead version of no you know he's not

00:04:16.260 the emperor he'd be like a dead dead admiral akbar dead mon mothma but a dude something like that

00:04:23.640 dead carrie fisher yeah i think look look you know i was uh talking about this earlier today

00:04:28.900 and in our world i i don't think mark hamill is pretty much anything right now right i mean look

00:04:34.260 at who he's playing to in his audience on blue sky those comments like jack i think jack just

00:04:38.160 said it they are common over there but in the greater public blake you know this guy is like

00:04:43.000 it's sad a little bit right i mean he's sad he's i don't even think he ever got as big as he thought

00:04:49.920 him he himself would get there's a whole story there if you're a star wars fan uh you probably

00:04:55.000 know i mean he did have a an a terrible accident that did uh stop or at least halt his career for

00:05:01.260 the time being so he never got past being luke skywalker in our world right and now he's just

00:05:07.600 an angry person and i think i'm repeating this from jack show because i think it bears repeating

00:05:12.460 that a lot of these guys that we see come out and make these comments they're just unhappy people

00:05:17.940 blake right there's something about them they're just whether it's unhappy with their career

00:05:22.620 unhappy with the lives they've led and they're bitter at things and often when they're not often

00:05:28.080 when they're leftists they lash out at right-wing political figures in a way that's reckless that's

00:05:34.220 dangerous and it's they're they're trying to fill this void they have in themselves i mean i don't

00:05:38.980 have to be a psychiatrist to see it they all share this it's it's glaring to me russ i'm trying to i'm

00:05:45.100 looking at uh the list of mark hamill roles that weren't star wars films exactly let me know the

00:05:51.680 first time you've you've actually heard of one of these films corvette summer the big red one

00:05:58.700 the night the lights went out in georgia britannia hospital slipstream fall of the

00:06:07.620 eagles midnight ride not rider just midnight ride the guyver not macgyver the guyver black

00:06:16.500 magic woman sleepwalkers we've gone in through 15 years of films at this point time runner

00:06:22.800 silk degrees that doesn't even have a wikipedia page the raffle also doesn't have a wikipedia

00:06:29.160 page village of the damned laser hawk hamilton not the musical it's apparently an action film

00:06:36.900 interesting watchers reborn walking across egypt thank you good night we are now over 20 years in

00:06:45.800 to mark hamill's non-star wars home career maybe you've heard of this one jay and silent bob

00:06:49.520 straight back yes okay all right 2001 isn't he also playing himself in that movie i don't know

00:06:55.620 he might have yeah he might have i haven't seen it but i have heard of jay and silent bomb then

00:06:59.460 we're back to reese reeseville comic book the movie yeah the only holy crap okay kingsman the

00:07:06.680 secret service 2014 35 years of movies before we get to a star wars film the only man doesn't play

00:07:12.340 himself that i i remember are his voice acting roles that's it that's true he had he was more

00:07:18.200 famous as a voice actor played the joker a very good joker i will say uh although in a fewer

00:07:25.740 fewer episodes than i'd have thought i guess how many episodes do you think he played the joker

00:07:30.240 in batman the animated series probably 15 oh exactly right actually 15 only and so you know

00:07:36.820 it's actually not that much content overall yeah um but yeah no he's uh he messed it up he uh

00:07:43.300 dragged it all into the abyss apparently there was a a joker appearance in spider no that's

00:07:47.720 superman never mind but yeah this but this is a bigger question which was a debated uh heavily

00:07:53.200 on x this week this week it was may the 4th there's that astro church fake holiday may the 4th be with

00:08:00.840 you and i think this year it really sunk in for a lot of people that star wars just seems kind of

00:08:09.140 lame kind of fake kind of sad kind of done here is is star wars done here jack and not just because

00:08:14.440 of Hamill is it just done here forever so so before we before we get into the the meta analysis

00:08:20.180 I want to say we are by the way we are up in chat so what's up to let's see if what's up to some

00:08:24.600 folks in the chat um Duzu's pedals already in with a with a rumble rant here uh she says I was 0.99

00:08:31.680 Princess Leia for two years in a row and how for Halloween I love Star Wars of course the stupid 0.98

00:08:36.360 godless left-wing communist would ruin that too I'm super feisty about this yeah uh this is wild 0.99

00:08:42.140 What's up, Dylan Ivey? He's here all the time. I see Caboose in there. Unfortunately, we can't seem to get him out. That's that's obviously an oversight. MK Bren 28 is here. Sergeant 1978 is here. So so the gang is filling in. The comments are coming in. But folks, here's something that's actually deadly serious.

00:09:06.540 We're living in a time where political violence is running wild.

00:09:10.140 It has been two weeks since a political assassination attempt took place at a White House

00:09:17.340 Correspondents' Dinner where two people associated with this show, this very podcast, were in

00:09:24.400 attendance, right?

00:09:25.180 Andrew and Mikey were right there.

00:09:26.980 And obviously, Erica was there, who is clearly associated as well.

00:09:31.200 There's no question.

00:09:31.780 And even though even though we don't we don't have women on the program, but that's that's a scheduling issue and a and a programming issue as well. 0.94

00:09:40.220 And obviously, Charlie, right, has been the victim of political violence.

00:09:46.060 And so in a time like this, for someone to post something like that is horribly irresponsible. 0.92

00:09:51.140 It is disgusting. And the fact of the matter is, is that Disney fired Gina Carano over a post that was nowhere near as incendiary as this.

00:10:00.700 she was completely taken out of context with that one it was horrific the way gina carano was

00:10:06.260 treated she's having a major major comeback right now by the way but here's something that isn't

00:10:11.140 going to come back and that's star wars and so i've been going out and this has been it's been

00:10:15.580 trending all day here on thought crime thursday it's also something that i want to keep going

00:10:20.220 because in two weeks time the newest star wars movie is coming out so star wars hasn't had a

00:10:27.840 new movie in russ how long has it been since since uh rise skywalker came out uh i want to say

00:10:35.220 like it came out before covet it's been almost it's been over seven years

00:10:39.500 2019 yeah 2019 so it's been seven years since there was a new star wars movie this is the first

00:10:47.080 time because that tanked so bad and because last jedi tanked so bad the billions upon billions of

00:10:53.320 dollars that they had spent in the star wars uh purchase the acquisition from lucas arts and

00:11:00.040 george lucas into disney fell flat on its face because how how bad that sequel trilogy is in

00:11:06.320 fact there's even a rumor that they may be rebooting it so what they're doing with this

00:11:10.140 new one it's called the mandalorian and grogu which i guess is baby yoda's name and it's all

00:11:16.500 member berries they're just throwing as many member berries as they can at you and like cute

00:11:20.480 stuff and tchotchkes i'm calling for a full-on boycott i'm saying it's fine it's time for

00:11:25.800 conservatives to rip off the band-aid you need to drop the slave mentality of saying oh i like

00:11:34.160 star wars so much that i just need to spend all my money on i need to buy the merch i need to do

00:11:38.560 this i need to get in look in two weeks time this is such bad timing for disney for mark havel to

00:11:44.620 have completely ripped the mask off and shown us his true face here because look he's just telling

00:11:50.940 you straight up he doesn't care about you he doesn't care about your business he doesn't

00:11:54.900 care about your family and in fact he wants president trump dead he wants conservatives 0.79

00:11:59.360 dead all of this and i jack jack i'd be remiss did we did we even see did did he even say anything

00:12:08.280 about charlie at all i don't think so not that i know i actually don't know jack don't you think

00:12:14.360 it's a little low-hanging fruit to call for a boycott of a movie that probably not that many

00:12:18.220 people were going to see anyway yeah well there's a huge i'd say there's a huge audience for star

00:12:22.720 wars there's a huge problem that's this point though i'm saying no no what i'm saying is blake

00:12:27.480 what i'm saying though is that there i still see to this day so even the white house right i love

00:12:32.980 the guys over there but even they on star wars day were posting memes of trump as a jedi and like

00:12:41.340 all this stuff and playing into it it's a cultural it's a it's a cultural fixation in america like

00:12:48.920 that that doesn't have anything to do with that doesn't have anything to do with them promoting

00:12:52.860 the movies it's just it's obviously a promotion it's it's absolutely in the zeitgeist you know

00:12:59.560 Right. So what they need to understand, though, is like, number one, we need to like boycott Star Wars Day.

00:13:04.420 But number two, it's just conservatives need to have a little bit more self-respect that when there are people who literally want to kill you and people who literally want you and your family dead, who want to ruin your family, that we need to stop supporting them with our hard earned dollars. 0.71

00:13:21.560 I mean, I'm saying yes, boycott dumb Star Wars, which I've already been doing for 10 years. 0.84

00:13:26.060 I agree with you. Don't you pirate like every movie you watch? 0.97

00:13:29.560 uh no comment i agree with you on that one one of the things that uh especially with the mark

00:13:37.080 hamill side that's true by the way i saw michael i saw michael at the drive-in theater oh nice dude

00:13:41.560 yeah there's one here really yeah literally talk about it on like all the time on the show okay

00:13:47.660 glendale is might as well be like five hours away it's great i've gone there it's okay i'll

00:13:51.740 keep this in mind um one thing on the mark hamill side of things though too is like it

00:13:56.920 it would be a very different story if disney was willing to recast luke because um even specifically

00:14:06.560 with the mandalorian in one of the earlier seasons they brought in a young luke skywalker and did

00:14:14.440 uh the re-cg uh re-cg face um to make that was obi-wan no it was luke um obi-wan wasn't isn't

00:14:26.100 alive because uh it takes place so no so i'm specifically talking about in the mandalorian

00:14:34.580 uh luke comes to get grogu because he figures out that he's force sensitive and he's going to take

00:14:41.320 him and create his jedi school um and so they were already they're already they won't recast

00:14:50.200 these characters which is if you're if star wars wants to just completely move away from mark hamill

00:14:57.860 they have a way to do that like they could recast mark hamill or recast luke yeah and just move on

00:15:04.740 yeah and then it's so much easier to you know denounce uh mark hamill and actually be able to

00:15:13.020 essentially do what they did to gina carano um after after the after you know in 2020 yeah i

00:15:19.980 i don't think you can get away with recasting luke i just i don't see it you should and they're not

00:15:25.120 going to anyway they're not going this gets at the heart of it though which is why i think i think

00:15:30.620 the meta conversation is the is the most interesting one when we talk about like is star

00:15:36.900 wars dead is star wars alive why do why is it that we could open this with a star wars opening crawl

00:15:41.720 like it really does have a tremendous we haven't we have it has a tremendous pop culture presence

00:15:46.860 yet in american as this tremendous pop culture presence in american life it's it's insanely

00:15:52.660 dominant i don't think there's any other movie series we could have that would like

00:15:57.380 be able to have a day that people just automatically think of it on like we have with

00:16:02.580 this may the fourth nonsense and i think about another thing i saw the other day which was it

00:16:08.780 was just in the comments on i think a youtube video but someone said i am a teacher and none

00:16:14.020 of my kids in grade school, actually, I think it was even middle school. None of the kids in my

00:16:18.780 class are familiar with King Arthur or the King Arthur mythos. I think it was also in discussion

00:16:24.100 of the Odyssey that we actually have ancient myths in Western civilization. We have the Greek

00:16:31.520 poems, Homer. We have King Arthur, Knights of the Roundtable. You have Robin Hood. You have legends

00:16:36.620 like that. And all of these are fading away. And instead, we literally have people who know

00:16:41.360 the star wars canon and i i often wonder do we need star wars to die just because it just seems

00:16:48.740 very dumb to have a film franchise invented in 1977 as a profit-making venture be our our dominant

00:16:56.220 pop culture lingo or if we kill star wars are we just going to end up where it's all the mr beast 0.98

00:17:02.280 extended cinematic universe and and marvel slop or something well so so russ yeah talk to us a

00:17:08.320 little bit about how i'm sure you saw fandom pulse and a few people were talking about how

00:17:14.160 specifically the disney uh star wars movies were seen as so unpopular that disney may be like

00:17:20.360 rebooting them or something yeah so that came out um a couple weeks now ago um the essentially the

00:17:28.640 idea is that yes they're going to essentially just re kind of reboot the universe before the

00:17:36.740 original or the sequel trilogy and kind of move on from there and use essentially probably using

00:17:44.940 mandalorian and grogu since it takes place uh a couple years after episode six as kind of their

00:17:52.280 jumping their jumping point but yeah yeah i mean it would be funny is like it's like a multiverse

00:17:59.380 thing i guess like avengers a little bit we're like apparently they're also going to focus on

00:18:03.820 the original cast so that's the other weird part of this so then we might be getting one of those

00:18:09.440 which even if they don't reboot it that's already happening about the other day actually

00:18:13.980 yeah even if they don't even if they don't reboot it that's already happening so they have star

00:18:18.260 wars stuff at their theme parks and they've scaled back all of the the sequel characters

00:18:23.640 so you're gonna run you run into princess leia there you don't run into ray or finn or whoever

00:18:30.000 these new characters are it's insane too when you think about it that the only characters that are

00:18:34.380 even popular in the sequel series are the droids like yeah like that's it like like disney's that's

00:18:41.060 the only thing disney's got going for them is that everybody likes the droids but it's because they 1.00

00:18:45.060 don't talk yeah or they can talk the same way you can just bring back c-3po and he's not going to

00:18:49.960 age he can be in any movie and c-3po had the best scene in the episode seven so much on galaxy's

00:18:55.500 edge yeah so much and even just to angelo's point in the chat like the star wars hotel was too

00:19:02.140 expensive and they closed they had to close it yeah it'll cost like four thousand dollars to go

00:19:06.500 to and it wasn't that good so it really is it is interesting how huge star wars was i mean you and

00:19:13.080 i are about you know i guess actually you're way younger than me but at least i remember growing up

00:19:17.300 in the 90s the 2000s has this huge pop culture overhang even all three of the prequels were bad

00:19:24.920 and yet the hype for all three of them was absolutely gargantuan.

00:19:28.000 I remember my school announcements was mentioning,

00:19:33.380 like on the day a Star Wars movie would come out,

00:19:34.960 they'd come in for their announcements and at the end the guy would go

00:19:37.400 and may the force be with you.

00:19:39.560 It pervaded so much stuff.

00:19:42.040 It was such a big deal when Disney bought it and everyone thought,

00:19:45.260 oh, now we can get more and they won't be bad because George Lucas is making it.

00:19:48.320 It's just people get so invested in this.

00:19:50.100 You can find threads online on Reddit, of course,

00:19:53.540 where people they'll they'll ask others how can i make sure that my kids grow up to be star wars

00:19:59.360 fans the same way parents might ask how do i make sure my kids stay in church or how do i make sure

00:20:04.940 my kids follow our you know our cultural heritage is that it seems the cultural heritage of normie

00:20:12.780 middle class white guys in america is basically star wars lord of the rings and nfl football

00:20:21.580 are these the things that we actually have kids inherit now yeah i may have something that i can

00:20:27.540 show kind of visually to to illustrate this about how they like and when i say like i'm i'm i'm

00:20:33.920 boycotting star wars and it's like a big deal for me um so my parents were uh my parents were

00:20:41.600 like decluttering downsizing they just moved recently and they they dropped off some some of

00:20:50.000 my stuff and uh they brought my star wars books in the old like i don't know bin that it was i knew

00:20:56.880 it i knew it oh no what a nerd that's so many of them what a nerd no it's all everything in here

00:21:07.360 wait everything in here is a star book literally every single book in this thing did you read all

00:21:14.060 those yes oh no doubt for those who can't for those who can't see that there's about there's

00:21:18.800 There's about 50 books in that box.

00:21:20.640 The last time I've seen a bin that big was the Legos.

00:21:23.400 Did you read the Crystal Star, Jack?

00:21:26.000 Did you read the Crystal Star?

00:21:27.280 I think the Crystal Star might be in here.

00:21:28.860 I see Darksaber.

00:21:29.880 Dig for that.

00:21:31.960 Darksaber?

00:21:32.780 Darksaber's bad.

00:21:33.580 We've got Darksaber right here.

00:21:34.580 What are you talking about?

00:21:35.300 Darksaber.

00:21:36.680 We've got the AC Crispin Han Solo trilogy.

00:21:39.440 Gosh, I love that.

00:21:40.520 Oh, that's a good one.

00:21:41.520 The Han Solo one's good.

00:21:42.500 Yeah, the Han Solo trilogy is amazing.

00:21:44.240 Oh, here's Crystal Star right here, Blake.

00:21:46.400 Oh, the Crystal Star is so terrible.

00:21:47.820 that's one of the worst ones for those who don't know in the crystal star luke joins a a cult of 0.89

00:21:54.360 people worshiping like basically a blob of crap from another dimension yeah it's really it's really

00:21:59.780 bad uh vision of the future is this the one that's his own one that was like the last song i think 0.97

00:22:06.140 that's where luke and mara get married no no hold on hold on hold on outbound i think it's outbound

00:22:10.200 flight the timothy's on shoot jack and i were just talking about how he had all the books

00:22:18.300 right here i knew literally right here one of my i have a timothy's on one that's signed

00:22:26.980 somewhere i don't know where it is can i ask you something jack as as a fan and as somebody who

00:22:31.480 like thinks about yeah so i'm like i'm like i'll own it right like i was a big big big star wars

00:22:36.880 fan let me ask you something then if you don't mind jack and i don't want to go out of order but

00:22:41.440 do you doesn't anyone else feel like star wars has lost some of its relevance it's not only just

00:22:46.660 that i mean how disney's managed it since they bought it but also that it's lost it it's relevant

00:22:52.240 so it was like super popular you know when it went at first i'm not even talking about the

00:22:57.200 prequels or what we all remember but before that our parents generation is the chair i can't i

00:23:03.260 can't actually see what they're saying it's clearly it's clearly lost some but rich i think

00:23:07.380 you might have some sense on this it's like the nazis you know that's who they're portraying and

00:23:12.340 we just don't have that yeah but also part of our mindset rich i just had this thought since you're

00:23:17.660 a pollster and you think a lot about how things are portrayed how things look how people react

00:23:22.020 to things a thought i've had is one reason star wars is fading out is the fact that just disney

00:23:28.780 bought it and they released a but they started making spinoff movies and these tv shows

00:23:33.640 and there's a sense to me that even if those were good even if all of them were

00:23:37.960 nine ten out of ten quality that they just took something that was scarce something that there

00:23:43.640 were only a handful of films for if you were a fan you just presumably had seen them and now

00:23:49.340 suddenly there's over there's 12 movies and there's dozens of tv show episodes suddenly even

00:23:56.460 if you're a fan you presumably haven't seen everything it's way too hard to see everything

00:24:00.680 unless you're super diehard and there's like a saturation it's somewhat someone would look at

00:24:05.260 that and go that's too much stuff i'm not getting into that is there anything to that the young

00:24:09.980 adult jedi prince books yeah i i think that i i actually do i i agree with that no i'm not thinking

00:24:16.360 that i have any like data to back this up i'm just saying that there is a saturation of the

00:24:20.780 market that happened with star wars that didn't even exist when we were kids um and i remember

00:24:25.840 I mean, guys, you had the first three movies for years and that was it.

00:24:29.780 And then when we got older and technology got better, they wanted to tell the story, you know, Anakin story, the prequels.

00:24:36.240 Right. Which I know my niece and nephew love, but I was still young, young enough myself to want to see them.

00:24:42.420 And, of course, was dying to go bring them. And I did.

00:24:45.020 And then outside of that, I think you had Saturday morning cartoons and there was a cartoon and it and just blows it up and throw.

00:24:54.080 So we're used to getting something from Star Wars in drips that can last a generation.

00:25:01.420 They just come and dump everything out there.

00:25:04.480 And by the way, I think the quality of them has not been the same, right, that we've seen from the other, whatever you want to call them, you know, basically iterations of this entire story.

00:25:16.560 Yeah, I was actually talking to a lot more quality before.

00:25:20.360 I was talking to

00:25:21.900 and there was Star Wars a lot before

00:25:24.440 there were a couple animated series

00:25:26.260 I was trying to think

00:25:28.060 Rebels something

00:25:29.040 Clone Wars

00:25:31.540 I'm talking about the 80s

00:25:34.160 the 80s

00:25:35.840 there were some Ewok movies

00:25:39.980 there were some

00:25:40.960 there were some extra

00:25:43.800 extras out there

00:25:45.180 Chewbacca had an animation or something too in the 80s

00:25:47.720 there was the Star Wars Holiday Special

00:25:50.200 this isn't even all the Star Wars books that I've read by the way this is just all the ones that I

00:25:54.200 purchased because when I was younger I would do the library a lot so like people are like where

00:25:58.880 are the Thrawn books and like I just always had those from the library even though I've read those

00:26:02.640 many many many times so it's like it's like look guys you know this is this is what it comes down

00:26:08.980 to like if you actually care about and and I haven't by the way I haven't opened one of these

00:26:14.140 books or a star anything with Star Wars on it in 10 years since I originally called for hashtag

00:26:19.200 I dumped Star Wars in 2016 when the writers of Rogue One led a massive anti-Trump Twitter campaign.

00:26:27.740 I've actively campaigned against them since then.

00:26:31.580 And excuse me, no, I've seen the films.

00:26:34.500 I just haven't paid for the, you know, Last Jedi and what was the other one?

00:26:38.200 The Rise of Skywalker.

00:26:39.960 And yes, I did stream those.

00:26:42.020 and it's just it's it's so ridiculous that conservatives will not get involved and my

00:26:52.380 my kids have never seen it um they know what star wars is their friends have like told them

00:26:56.380 all the spoilers at this point so it's like they don't even they're not even and by the way they're

00:27:01.080 not even interested like my kids have zero interest in it at all they just know they just

00:27:07.260 think it's funny but like they know if i bring it up they're like oh daddy says we can't you know

00:27:10.780 have Star Wars in the house. So they just had to like bring it up to like troll me basically,

00:27:14.700 but they don't actually, you know, they're not actually into it. No, I'm not selling these

00:27:19.120 books. I see Zuzu's Petal saying that I should sell these books to collectors. No, absolutely

00:27:23.080 not. I'm, I'm, I'm just holding on to them for now. You know, it's like, it's just, it's, it's

00:27:28.820 like my, it's my burden. And it's the sad thing is Star Wars wanted to come back and actually do

00:27:35.400 the books as a movie series or say that that's like a separate universe of the doing the

00:27:39.660 multiverse thing and retcon like all this stuff and fire mark hamill and apologize maybe no so

00:27:46.380 that's where that's where you go right i haven't read most of those books i read a few in high

00:27:50.280 school but because i have certain tendencies autism uh i what i would do is i in college

00:27:58.260 would waste time by just sitting on wukipedia which is the wikipedia for star wars you see

00:28:03.740 when i was reading these we didn't have no no jack i would just sit on wukipedia and i would

00:28:07.460 read the different summaries of the books and like the different characters and how they all

00:28:11.940 connected and it was really funny and so the thing is people say oh it'd be great if they made those

00:28:16.080 books into movies but once you really look at them with a neutral you with a neutral eye and

00:28:21.240 you're not in middle school anymore you realize a lot of these are just seriously bad like everyone

00:28:26.480 says everyone's saying oh grand admiral thrawn he'd be so cool if he was if they made a star

00:28:32.160 wars movie about admiral thrawn and then you read the books and you go his superpower that he has

00:28:36.460 to defeat the good guys

00:28:38.160 is he has super, super art analysis powers.

00:28:41.860 Like he went to Space Oberlin

00:28:43.240 and got a master's degree in art history.

00:28:46.940 And so he can look at their paintings

00:28:48.340 that are pottery and go,

00:28:50.100 oh, the way this pottery is designed,

00:28:51.980 I can tell this civilization,

00:28:53.620 they'll respond to a superficial act

00:28:55.840 of overwhelming force

00:28:56.900 that doesn't have any depth behind it.

00:28:58.520 And so he'll surprise them really hard

00:29:00.800 and then they'll just surrender instantly

00:29:02.580 with his super art analysis powers.

00:29:04.720 I mean, look, I'm not going to hate on Grand Admiral Throne.

00:29:07.940 He's actually a great character.

00:29:08.980 The point is, though, he actually works in the series.

00:29:11.480 Like, that's why it's actually good.

00:29:13.400 It talks about the fact that he understands everything about that culture

00:29:18.100 to the point of like having it's kind of like, you know,

00:29:21.340 I thought it was kind of similar to like Thomas Jefferson

00:29:24.340 having a copy of the Koran when he got into the Barbary Pirates Wars.

00:29:27.820 So I want he wants to understand his adversary.

00:29:30.640 And the point was that Throne was actually winning like for a long, long time.

00:29:34.080 I mean, this is this is going to be sacrilege to Jack because I actually like Rogue One.

00:29:41.000 But the reason I mean, if you like girl boss, feminist movies, I liked it for other reasons.

00:29:46.860 No, I didn't. I I'm curious what those reasons are.

00:29:50.160 Here's the thing. I looked at it as and this is where I looked at the Mandalorian as well.

00:29:56.400 One of the things that the Mandalorian did was show that Star Wars could be a universe.

00:30:01.640 right and so you could you could have other stories in the universe and i think that's where

00:30:06.560 for me that's one of the reasons i didn't like the uh the sequel series on top of just how badly

00:30:13.820 it was written was the fact that we kept going back to the skywalker family it was like the

00:30:18.780 only jedis that could exist had to have the last name skywalker and i was like why like it's a

00:30:26.500 galaxy like why can we not do other things you know when they had branches of other stories that

00:30:35.060 they were telling showing that it wasn't limited to that that's exactly yeah they can contradicted

00:30:39.720 themselves or greatly limited themselves i agree with that 100 percent like there's a whole civil

00:30:44.980 war with the corellian system at one point right there's stuff with like you know the x-wing pilots

00:30:51.780 obviously which is what rogue one is based on so there's a whole series called rogue squadron at

00:30:55.720 one point there are other species jack that could be a jet it doesn't even have to be a human there

00:31:01.180 could be other species uh they could have went in a lot of different i would even say that i would

00:31:06.040 even say that it's not just star wars even though star wars is just the largest one it's it's it's

00:31:12.260 so much of this has been done to every like cultural artifact that's been passed down in

00:31:18.600 that people have just sort of like yeah you know i mean this is doing the same thing to marvel

00:31:22.960 they're doing the same thing to marvel right now jones so so stop paying for it that's it's it's

00:31:30.360 really as simple as that we just have to stop paying for it yeah in the same way that jones

00:31:34.940 in the same way that blake was on wikipedia i was on marvelpedia looking up all the different

00:31:40.500 stuff i didn't want to be i wanted to be an archaeologist like indiana jones that was

00:31:46.400 they actually would sell

00:31:50.440 they would sell

00:31:51.660 what do you call it

00:31:53.700 like encyclopedia style books

00:31:56.640 like reference guides for Star Wars

00:31:58.480 I remember those

00:31:59.380 those are Barnes and Noble

00:32:01.300 just sit in the middle of the section

00:32:04.960 it's like they'd have the planets

00:32:06.020 they'd have the starships

00:32:07.940 they had the technology

00:32:10.240 I had that stuff memorized

00:32:12.140 I had that stuff down pat

00:32:13.720 I could tell you the companies

00:32:15.060 i could tell you who made everything um which which i mean later when i joined the navy it

00:32:20.280 was kind of like it was kind of like uh in navy intel was like oh yes i i remember these types

00:32:25.740 of things man because it was laid out in the same format right it was it was the same idea yeah

00:32:33.020 same way yeah yep yeah yes yeah so i'd be studying like a chinese you know defense firm and i'd be

00:32:39.120 like oh yes this is like the kuat drive yards or whatever oh yeah i know do we have do we 0.70

00:32:45.040 have the kathleen kennedy clip about her making everything lame and gay because i think i guess

00:32:53.260 we don't but anyway the i think i'm glad about it dying for the for the reason i said which is it

00:32:59.900 did exert this huge pull over people but when i do think about the fact that as as you say jack

00:33:05.740 there's a lot of people out there who have memorized a lot of guys our age who have memorized

00:33:10.280 every single fact about every Star Wars ship ever,

00:33:14.140 which is all just stuff,

00:33:14.980 all stuff that was just churned out

00:33:16.380 as mass slop in the 90s, early 2000s.

00:33:19.740 And that usually means it's been at the expense

00:33:22.920 of basically anything else you could memorize

00:33:26.260 would probably be better than Star Wars Arcana.

00:33:28.700 You could know more about a useful,

00:33:30.920 like a hobby that actually requires skill.

00:33:33.800 So learn a lot about how to fly fish,

00:33:36.220 learn a lot about how to make stuff out of wood,

00:33:38.780 learn a lot or even just learn a lot about your country's history be one of those guys who

00:33:43.020 curates infinite information about the american revolution or the civil war or you know the

00:33:49.060 chinese dynasties or something any form of let's just call it male autism is better than memorizing

00:33:55.720 star wars information male autism that's a great point to that extent i think it's probably a good 0.78

00:34:01.300 thing if we can have star wars put out to pasture even if it just means get into other cultural

00:34:07.740 artifacts i think it is really sad that we've had cultural lineages that have lasted for hundreds

00:34:12.880 of years that might be just getting broken because everyone spent 20 years being obsessed

00:34:17.000 with star wars until disney ruined it i mean that gets that gets back to the idea that like when you

00:34:22.960 go to the movies it's either something from a franchise something for something something that's

00:34:30.420 a sequel yeah something that's a prequel there's everything wants to be a new star wars yeah there's

00:34:34.420 There's no original IPs anymore.

00:34:36.100 I really like this comment from

00:34:38.040 who says

00:34:42.180 the fall of Star Wars is like the fall

00:34:44.040 of a false prophet. 0.96

00:34:46.320 Amen. Which makes sense 0.99

00:34:48.000 because the Jedi literally dress like they're prophets.

00:34:50.480 But they are false prophets.

00:34:52.640 Isn't that true of all the humanities

00:34:54.380 now though? We said the same thing that was

00:34:56.160 just said about movies is also true

00:34:58.240 of music or has been

00:35:00.080 for years. We're always getting, you know,

00:35:01.980 I'm not picking on one genre.

00:35:03.960 I'm just saying, you know, for a good five years, it felt like every new rap song was really just an old R&B song or an old rock song retooled, put with a different drum beat.

00:35:14.820 Then there was great remakes that were here and there.

00:35:18.300 And some people, they had their own collection of music, their own collection of art.

00:35:22.940 And then maybe in their fourth album or something, they would remake a classic.

00:35:26.680 And it was actually kind of good.

00:35:28.560 You know, for instance, I was in Guns N' Roses did that three albums later and remade a song that people loved and still played to this day incessantly on the radio.

00:35:37.280 But they had their own collection of music.

00:35:39.620 And it feels like the humanities are just exhausted now and everyone's just kind of recycling.

00:35:44.900 I'm not saying I'm not picking on, you know, the all artists, but there is definitely a decline in original everything, original thinking, original art.

00:35:53.780 and it's i was actually just talking about this with my wife the other day because our kids were

00:35:58.380 asking about various things and we're trying to explain because now when they do these remakes

00:36:03.580 in a movie there'll be a gender swap or there'll be a race swap or something and we'll have to

00:36:09.500 explain oh this is how they did this in the new one in the original one right marvel did it too

00:36:16.300 by the way the marvel series they did this as well um you know if you're a witcher fan some

00:36:21.700 people might be star wars fans others might be witcher fans witcher fans which of which i am one

00:36:26.600 uh had this big blow up over how that was done so the series by the way what was that was that

00:36:32.200 oh it's great it's a great polish series by the way oh yeah i've got the books i gotta sit down

00:36:36.600 and read them but the games are amazing but but to your point my favorite yes i think a lot of

00:36:41.400 this comes from and i think a lot of the the streamer culture or and streaming culture has

00:36:47.700 kind of allowed for this because and it's it's streaming culture and it's tiktok culture our

00:36:53.680 attention spans have just warped to to almost non-existent and so thus we're not creating

00:37:00.740 anything we're not we're just we're pulling snippets from other things and mashing it together

00:37:05.880 and so we're we're no longer creating actual real well real things yep can i can i add something to

00:37:14.340 that because star wars itself was if you want to talk about it was obviously a a mashed together

00:37:21.820 piece of a lot of different other previous elements uh blake and i were talking on twitter

00:37:27.800 earlier about how the star wars music was you know evocative of a previous film king's row

00:37:33.760 where you know the the main star wars theme is actually like very very very similar uh to that

00:37:40.200 and how the opening scroll comes from other stuff flash gordon akira kurosawa films but here's the

00:37:46.980 here's the key difference and russ here's the difference that i think a lot of people are

00:37:51.200 are are overlooking is that those older pieces and even the original star wars film itself when

00:37:58.460 it was just called star wars before george lucas started lying about having all these other movies

00:38:02.340 made um was that because he didn't have any of it written out any any uh it's such a hack uh at the

00:38:08.860 start was star wars was a good story on it's a story that told a story told a classic hero's

00:38:19.740 journey um you know it has it's a classic tale right it's it's a kid who's a far a peasant who

00:38:27.440 becomes a knight he fights the evil lord in the castle and the old wizard to save the princess

00:38:36.500 Right. Like that's a very classic medieval style just at its core story, which then has other.

00:38:44.740 And, you know, and the one wizard helps him along his way.

00:38:47.160 It again, it all fits together within the archetype of stories that have been told for thousands of years.

00:38:54.920 But the problem with so much stuff today is they've totally lost that because it's just slop on top of slop on top of slop.

00:39:01.340 jack can i ask you a question then because you just went through that that storyline and

00:39:07.800 immediately i had like three different uh i mean we we view them as they make nursery rhymes they

00:39:14.500 make bedtime stories right speaking of disney they used to master in this right the cinderellas all

00:39:19.600 this where where are the origins of these stories come from i mean everything we just said everything

00:39:24.720 we just talked about right there these are european stories you're white culture rich it's

00:39:29.580 called white culture can i just put you blatantly say what i want to say here which is maybe disney

00:39:35.740 is having a hard time finding the the spirit of these stories because culturally it's completely

00:39:44.080 foreign to who works at disney now and now we're getting in this thought crime territory ladies

00:39:48.760 and gentlemen i love it thought crime territory well this is no this is when i said this before

00:39:54.240 about game of thrones that game of thrones is white culture and when the new one came out um the

00:40:00.020 duncan egg uh prequel series came out people liked it so much because again it was just a solid story

00:40:07.480 which follows that archetype again and that there's no you know princess in that one but again

00:40:11.920 it's a peasant who becomes a knight and he gets a squire who turns out to be a prince and he goes

00:40:17.740 on to fight for valor and honor and people loved it and it was really simple white culture and

00:40:23.060 guys all of these stories they have you know roots in whether it's polish or germanic or

00:40:31.100 you know all the way to england king arthur obviously that is what disney used to do and

00:40:35.960 nobody did it better than disney and who originally ran that company jack we were just talking about

00:40:41.780 this guy was an american patriot through and through right he allowed him he allowed mickey

00:40:47.300 mouse, the product of his company to be used to push American anti-communism propaganda all over

00:40:53.400 the world. Now look at the company. Now look at what it stands for. Now look at who runs it.

00:40:58.400 It's like if I was going to, you know, if the roles were reversed and let me just pick like

00:41:04.320 something that's foreign to me. Right. And I was going to write a story about Mohammed or something.

00:41:10.480 I wouldn't know where to start. And it's not I'm not ashamed to say that while I can read a few 0.99

00:41:15.400 books. It's not my culture. It's not the spirit of my own worldview and my own belief. So I'd have

00:41:20.780 a very difficult time trying to capture it. I could try to write a story about a djinn and get 0.99

00:41:26.800 super creative. And it may seem very, very common to people in the East, but to me, it is a foreign 0.99

00:41:33.240 way of thinking. So I would have a very difficult time capturing the essence of that story. How on

00:41:37.740 earth are we supposed to expect people who don't even believe in that Western view? They don't

00:41:45.060 believe in so many of, you know, it could be religions, it could be historical worldviews,

00:41:52.360 and they just don't have it. They don't like it. In fact, they might even detest it. They're

00:41:57.140 actively working every day to try to stamp that out of our current culture. So why would we ever

00:42:01.960 expect them to redo Cinderella and get it right? Or to redo Snow White, which they bombed and get

00:42:08.800 it right? I mean, they couldn't even redo Little Mermaid. I mean, this is like, they're just not

00:42:14.080 understanding what made those stories great or special or appealing and to the beginning what

00:42:19.640 what is the what was their audience at the time and still is largely today right i mean whether

00:42:25.740 we want to admit it or not it's still very much a white white european culture and that's falling

00:42:31.800 on deaf ears and that gets to the core of what disney has been doing with star wars with marvel

00:42:37.240 is they've taken two boy brands

00:42:39.440 that are very much lifting boys up.

00:42:43.280 Like, perfect example,

00:42:44.520 the original trilogy is very much,

00:42:46.280 just to Jack's point,

00:42:48.080 it's a kid who rises up and becomes a hero,

00:42:54.040 and they're turning it into girl brands.

00:42:55.740 And they're throwing in everything that they can 1.00

00:42:59.180 because they want to destroy masculinity. 0.60

00:43:02.400 They want to destroy manhood. 0.97

00:43:04.640 That's right.

00:43:05.020 And so that's the plan.

00:43:07.240 We have a comment. Dan, the man, 1961 argues Disney star Wars is not star Wars. I have bad

00:43:13.780 news for you, Dan. It is actually, this is, this is part of freeing yourself is freeing. Like the

00:43:20.420 true freedom is not, I reject the new stuff. The true freedom comes from, I reject the strange

00:43:27.300 hold that this ephemeral pop cultural artifact had over me. Because in the end, in the end,

00:43:34.060 Star Wars is just a reasonably well-made 70s movie

00:43:37.860 that was so well-made,

00:43:39.620 it got some sequels that were also popular

00:43:41.600 and some prequels that were popular

00:43:43.680 or at least made very good memetic content

00:43:46.620 if you were a millennial.

00:43:48.240 And then they just got a ton of spinoff content

00:43:50.080 because that's how you do things.

00:43:52.560 You make video games and books and all these things.

00:43:55.060 That's all it is.

00:43:55.900 Let me tell you something right now.

00:43:57.520 I think of Star Wars like an ex-girlfriend.

00:44:00.240 Get him out of here.

00:44:02.140 Every one of those books, Jack,

00:44:04.060 Imagine if instead of reading that book, you read literally anything else.

00:44:09.260 U.S. history and U.S. history, crisis and foreign policy.

00:44:12.820 You could have read every single Flashman novel, Jack, and it would have been awesome.

00:44:16.000 And then I could talk about Flashman with somebody.

00:44:19.300 I mean, I mean, I did spend time learning like a foreign language and like.

00:44:22.620 No one cares. Now, LLMs can just do that foreign language.

00:44:26.680 Technology overtaketh. 1.00

00:44:30.040 But no, you're exactly right.

00:44:31.720 you're exactly right that it's it's something where it's like you you need to have the I don't

00:44:39.380 think we should get rid of culture right I don't think we should we should say that good culture

00:44:44.560 is something that we should see the ground on but I do think that we should use our force for good

00:44:52.260 the way that we can the same way by the way that we led a massive brought a boycott of the Super

00:44:58.720 halftime show and bad bunny right we we were very successful very successful with that and they did

00:45:05.200 not like to talk about it because and rich you you remember like this reminds me of the bad bunny

00:45:09.820 situation that bad bunny was a guy who was popular with a certain very popular with a certain

00:45:16.200 demographic but not with the broad culture and by the way why what i'm gonna get in trouble here but

00:45:24.280 this is what the show's all about isn't it why was the halftime show super popular compared to

00:45:30.040 bad bunnies but i mean we they were even polls on this you could see the downloads after the you

00:45:34.800 know i mean after the uh the the super bowl what were you guys showcasing versus what they they're

00:45:41.780 trying to ram something else what jack said is true they're trying to ram an artist who represents

00:45:46.320 and is peeling to a sliver of the population down the throat of the entire population all right who

00:45:52.600 probably you know 70 percent of would not agree with half the things that come out of his mouth

00:45:56.540 and then tp usa was just showcasing americana the artist that headlined it is somebody who has been

00:46:03.740 widely popular and again not to get into this but i think that the masculinity impact of this is it

00:46:09.160 can't be understated either we can't even use this with star wars the prequels were successful they

00:46:13.800 didn't strip out the masculinity of star wars and the prequels did they no one of the greatest scene

00:46:18.380 out of all three of those anakin and obi-wan is one of the most masculine scenes ever right i got

00:46:23.720 the high ground but getting to it right but getting to it but am i wrong right wait we have

00:46:29.140 we have good scenes okay well let's make the masculinity show showcase like what was uh people

00:46:34.700 wanted to feel good at that time they didn't want somebody cramming something down their throat they

00:46:38.380 just wanted to celebrate americanism have a good time for a half hour and enjoy themselves we have

00:46:43.540 we have a good masculine scene much more successful we have a good masculine scene from the prequels

00:46:48.540 let's play let's play okay let's go i don't think the system works no god how would you have it work

00:46:55.160 we need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem agree what's in the best

00:47:02.540 interest of all the people and then do it that's exactly what we do the the trouble is that people

00:47:08.800 don't always agree well then they should be made to by whom who's gonna make them i don't know

00:47:14.460 someone you of course not me but someone someone wise sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me

00:47:23.040 well if it works

00:47:27.860 you know ceasur's gotta cross the rubicon he's gotta cross the rubicon what's great about it

00:47:38.360 what's so masculine about it is that in a lot of star wars prequels really understand women

00:47:43.640 because anakin says he supports a fascist dictatorship uh murders a bunch of women

00:47:48.740 and children as part of a massive war crime atrocity goes on psychotic megalomaniacal rants 0.93

00:47:53.940 uh does a bunch of insane things like that and is also like a weird pouty guy a lot of the time

00:47:58.180 but because he's hot she just falls in love with him and marries him instantly after knowing him

00:48:02.780 for maybe a week and so this is a highly accurate portrayal of male female relationships keep in

00:48:09.140 mind keep in mind like she was also like his former babysitter yeah also weird like creepy

00:48:15.120 grooming like like the first movie he was like 10 years younger than her yeah for no reason

00:48:21.140 whatsoever so funny no reason that's a 90s woman hey well listen there was some weird stuff in the

00:48:28.480 first three as well i mean luke almost fell in love with his sister all right i mean let's get

00:48:32.900 that was that's because they didn't have it written out to begin with that's because it

00:48:36.960 was originally supposed to be that's true but they did it it was really supposed to be a love

00:48:41.800 triangle and then lee beckett who was one of the actual main writers of the series because george

00:48:47.900 lucas is a you know a hack and a liar um had she died i think like in the process uh you know in

00:48:54.960 between empire and and jedi and and so they were lucas was like her sister and just kind of like 0.95

00:49:04.580 threw it out threw it out there and like clearly clearly knew that there would be like this huge

00:49:09.960 issue with the kiss scene but just like didn't care didn't care and and by the way we can't

00:49:15.440 skip with with the han solo thing like even his character because this got away from us when we

00:49:20.320 were talking about this even his character was really really american right here you have this

00:49:25.840 guy he's not you know he's a borderline bad guy he's a thief he's a he's a um a smuggler and he

00:49:31.960 gets a second chance and he does right like like wyatt earp was a criminal guys and before he was

00:49:37.940 the most famous lawman ever wyatt earp was a criminal you know but he turned his life and

00:49:42.980 rich to your point to your point so this is part uh before the prequels there was something known

00:49:48.120 as the special editions yeah yeah and the biggest um controversy of that and this was even in the

00:49:56.520 late 90s the biggest controversy there was that george lucas didn't understand why it made han

00:50:03.640 solo's character so cool to shoot greedo first and this was like this huge thing in the 90s

00:50:10.960 where george lucas is um edited it edited that famous scene in the cantina where han solo realizes

00:50:19.200 this guy's about to shoot him and he just shoots him first and changed it to make the uh the bounty

00:50:25.820 hunter shoot first and then han like dodges and then fires in self-defense which just totally 0.99

00:50:31.820 changes the character but again because george lucas is a liar and a hack he didn't understand

00:50:36.380 why that made such of a big difference oh i thought you were gonna play that scene um yeah

00:50:44.280 i you know look i maybe you guys are star wars fans you can tell me but i don't know if it's

00:50:48.760 true or not but um i thought we were gonna get a han solo movie after disney purchased it but

00:50:54.760 we did we did and it was so bad so bad it's actually really funny because that's the only

00:51:00.420 one that i that's the only disney star wars movie that i will defend so bad yeah but but is it the

00:51:06.220 The nerds don't like it because it's just like a comedy. 0.73

00:51:09.760 Yeah, but it was supposed to be a comedy, and then they wussed out.

00:51:14.000 It was supposed to be a comedy.

00:51:15.700 It was supposed to have the directors of Lord and Miller, the Lego movie.

00:51:20.720 21 Jump.

00:51:21.300 I thought it was hilarious.

00:51:22.400 They wanted Ford to do something else, but he was like, no, I'm going to do King of the Crystal Skulls instead.

00:51:28.540 Oh, you're saying to have him in it, as you were saying.

00:51:30.680 Yeah, it was supposed to be.

00:51:32.420 He was going to do it, and it was going to be something totally different.

00:51:35.340 Yeah, no, I think I know what you're talking about, but yeah, they never, they never did.

00:51:38.660 He did.

00:51:38.980 Well, maybe, you know, maybe that's something that's, potentially they could be discussing

00:51:43.260 if they do this, uh, like Russ was talking about the alternate universe, um, you know,

00:51:48.400 timeline.

00:51:49.120 Yeah.

00:51:49.740 Yeah. 0.98

00:51:50.220 We're going to, we'll probably get a recast.

00:51:52.020 Who knows?

00:51:53.580 Uh, but I'm saying like, but I'm saying with, with Han Solo, you could, if there stands

00:51:59.340 a reason i'm just saying that if you do a different uh universe and he's still alive both in the

00:52:06.560 universe and in real life you could have harrison ford back as han solo oh yes oh yes i just feel

00:52:13.920 like that's a terrible idea it's it's a lot it's a lot especially because you already have you

00:52:21.060 already have like leia is already like both carrie fisher and leia like like carrie fisher's dead so

00:52:27.720 So unless you're going to just CG her entire character or AI, like we talked about a couple weeks ago, you've got to recast her character.

00:52:38.840 And so that also gives you an opportunity to recast all of the characters, go back to maybe right after episode six and start telling those stories rather than having old versions of these characters.

00:52:53.520 because we have to because Mark Hamill's old and decrepit,

00:52:58.820 and so is Harrison Ford.

00:53:00.720 I think Harrison Ford's a deal breaker for me at this point anyway

00:53:03.640 because of what he did with the last Indiana Jones,

00:53:06.340 which is, to me, unforgivable.

00:53:08.700 Again, but that's Disney's fault, though.

00:53:10.860 So to be fair, the last Indiana Jones is Disney's fault.

00:53:15.880 I have always been the proponent they should have recast Indiana Jones,

00:53:19.160 pretended it was just like James Bond where you just recast a character.

00:53:22.720 just keep making it they could have had 20 indiana jones movies yeah with a young guy

00:53:26.620 keep it keep doing period pieces they just they replace him with whatever actor is hot that like

00:53:33.380 in the zeitgeist so at the time when they were they were talking about it they'd been talking

00:53:37.500 about chris pratt would have been a perfect 100 oh that would have been good it would have been

00:53:41.800 fantastic so chris pratt in the jurassic uh world series literally just is indiana

00:53:49.440 that's his uh that's that's him doing the audition right there yeah that yeah now we didn't get this

00:53:57.860 yeah and so we just got an old man indian jones we got that and then i heard and i don't know

00:54:03.800 this is really the way that we're gonna go but shia labeouf was going to like branch off and

00:54:09.000 basically take over and do something i love shia labeouf i would have loved i would have

00:54:15.240 He's unstable, though, if they would have he's not stable, but I would have loved if they had done that because I like Shia LaBeouf.

00:54:21.200 I thought when he did it, when he played the role he played in Crystal Skulls, I could see it.

00:54:26.580 And I'm like, this could work.

00:54:27.720 This I actually I'll even I'll even like just to be fair.

00:54:31.880 Right.

00:54:32.980 You know, I don't show Indiana Jones four and five to my kids, but I actually thought that the the nothing that with execution,

00:54:41.220 but i thought the plot like just the way it was laid out and sort of the mystery and the

00:54:46.240 artifact in dial of destiny was actually kind of cool it's yeah it wasn't a bad it wasn't a

00:54:52.300 bad plot point you just had a character you just had an actor who couldn't move because he's again

00:54:57.180 a hundred years old so then you're trying to have him play a character that's supposed to be

00:55:01.620 kicking ass and taking names and he's just not doing that while you feel and i liked how they

00:55:07.360 the way that they brought in operate they used the nazis in the 60s and they brought they brought 0.99

00:55:13.380 in like operation paperclip yeah and how that you know showed in mad was it mads mickinson right

00:55:19.820 was the was the main guy yes um who's just phenomenal there's no question there perfect

00:55:23.920 and and like he was going to go back so he was going to go back in time to you know a certain

00:55:29.780 point in world war ii to like win the war for the nazis i was like that's not bad that's that i'm

00:55:35.760 sorry that's not a bad plot that's just not a bad plot yeah which would undo half of what the

00:55:40.020 original indiana jones movies exactly no but that that that raises the stakes a little bit not only

00:55:45.880 for like our world but also for the actual series itself so it makes sense that like indiana jones

00:55:51.980 would you know would have like a personal stake in it i don't know i'm trying to think i'm an 80s

00:55:57.200 baby i was i'm an 81 baby i'm trying to think how many raiders of the lost ark slash indiana jones

00:56:04.260 themed birthday parties i must have had i'm telling you he was it

00:56:09.800 the last crusade is also just so good that's that's my favorite it's an easter movie by the

00:56:17.860 way it is it's a hundred percent an easter movie i was i saw it and i was still kind of young when

00:56:22.720 it came out i mean i wasn't a little kid but i was getting older but uh i went and i saw that

00:56:27.140 movie i can't believe i just remembered this it popped in my head but i just remembered this i

00:56:31.300 got home saw the movie in the theater which i'm not sure my dad wanted to wanted to have my mother

00:56:37.240 take me to but she did and then i come back and i'm like sleep this movie had such a huge impression

00:56:42.760 i loved it i wasn't scared of it at all but i had such a huge impression i was sleepwalking and

00:56:48.720 doing the three trials in my sleep and went to the top of the steps and my mother and aunt almost

00:56:55.060 had a heart attack because of course i'm ready to do a leap of faith off the top of the stairs

00:56:59.220 and if you guys don't know what it's talking about guys there's what i'm talking about it's

00:57:02.340 incredible the chat actually has this this like sort of side combo that's going on that's

00:57:07.060 interesting that i think we should we should bring up um and everybody dylan's who's everybody's

00:57:12.480 talking about it is okay so remember a couple weeks ago we were talking about ai val kilmer

00:57:19.740 so they made the ai val kilmer you know obviously passed away but they put him in

00:57:23.560 so what if they got rid of the oh and dylan is asking what's my favorite shy film obviously

00:57:30.460 holes like it's not even a question and not if they made ai sorry he made a padre pio movie

00:57:38.860 i mean i haven't seen it but holes is just amazing and so what if they had all right so

00:57:45.440 what if they had ai versions of the young characters but the actual actors have nothing

00:57:52.120 to do with it so it's all ai but like just like the val kilmer one it was good remember it was

00:57:58.160 like really good really realistic looks exactly like them would we be okay with it in that sense

00:58:05.020 i mean i think that's different yeah i think it gets to a deeper thing where i think currently

00:58:12.320 we can't write good movies right now because everybody wants to put their own their biases

00:58:18.420 into their scripts and into their stories so yeah we're not gonna be able to have actual deep

00:58:25.420 uh filmography from in these universes because because we're just gonna have some blue-haired

00:58:32.380 people can sense people can sense the decline in their civilization they know the old stuff

00:58:37.680 was better and they desperately try to grasp at it by making retreads of it yeah it's not gonna

00:58:43.120 people are people in chat are asking who's the guy with the beard those classics and that's like

00:58:48.780 that's what's so sad it's a you because you you find yourself trying to appreciate the original

00:58:53.440 you know a form of art the original idea the original story and it you can't do that with

00:58:59.220 these rewrites because whether they know it or they don't know it they are like perverting it

00:59:04.760 with these new age ideas that they're or they're new age they're old ideas but they think they're

00:59:09.840 new they think they're progressive and they just destroy it that gets to the core of of it is that

00:59:15.280 we we grab on to old actors and old movies and our and this is a weird phenomenon that we have 0.90

00:59:24.640 is where our instant response to oh all of this all of this star wars is crap let's go back and

00:59:32.780 the first thought in our brain is oh we got to bring back the old actors it's like no no no no 0.92

00:59:37.520 no no it has nothing to do with the actors it has everything to do with the writing it has

00:59:41.820 everything to do with how the story is told it wouldn't fix it like it's still not going to fix

00:59:48.820 no it's not going to fix it no i mean but it's not even if mark wasn't old he'd still be the

00:59:53.180 same mark he was just yeah he was exactly it was hit who he is hidden better in a better story

00:59:59.020 i think mark hamill's a terrible actor other than being a voice actor so that's yeah andrew

01:00:05.520 was saying that earlier on

01:00:07.140 He's not a good actor. By the way, Andrew

01:00:09.480 has Hantavirus, I heard,

01:00:11.460 so I heard that's why he's not on today.

01:00:13.880 He was on that cruise.

01:00:15.420 Amen. Angelo agrees with me. Thank God.

01:00:18.880 Terrible.

01:00:19.800 We should...

01:00:21.080 Man.

01:00:23.560 You know what? We're almost out of time.

01:00:24.600 I know none of you guys

01:00:26.460 followed the instructions to do it. We were all supposed to watch

01:00:28.560 Animal Farm so we could talk about it, but

01:00:30.300 no one did. Oh my gosh.

01:00:33.020 Man, if we're talking about things they can't make

01:00:34.640 good movies out of excuse me so wait wait you actually watched it uh i mean suffered through

01:00:41.760 it endured it suffered suffered so oh that's that's see this is so what was it i feel bad i

01:00:48.960 want to say like i will note it was distributed by angel studios angel studios has made good

01:00:53.040 films that we like i thought king of kings yeah it was great i think they've done good stuff they'll

01:00:57.440 do good stuff in the future they did not write this movie they distributed it it was directed

01:01:01.940 by Gollum, Andy

01:01:04.140 Serkis, and

01:01:05.700 it's really jarring

01:01:08.260 how much they could mess it up, because

01:01:10.160 it's a pretty simple story, like

01:01:11.860 okay, if you're adapting a

01:01:13.800 1,000 page book, or this big long

01:01:16.060 series, it's hard to think, how do we cut this

01:01:18.140 down to 90 minutes? Animal Farm

01:01:20.100 you can read in an hour, maybe two hours

01:01:22.260 It's true, it's not a long book

01:01:23.900 It's a very short book, it's a very basic book

01:01:25.900 It's extremely obvious what

01:01:28.040 they intend with it, you could basically do a

01:01:30.040 100% literal

01:01:31.520 word-by-word, scene-by-scene adaptation

01:01:33.740 of Animal Farm, it would be good, it would be

01:01:35.640 easy, and people would watch it.

01:01:37.540 And instead, they just totally

01:01:39.920 mess it up. So, first of all,

01:01:42.420 they take all the hard edge

01:01:43.680 out of it, because they want it to be a friendly kids movie.

01:01:45.800 So, almost nobody dies

01:01:47.640 in the new Animal Farm.

01:01:49.340 So Boxer does not die? Yeah, they don't do that.

01:01:51.620 They don't have, in the book, it's actually

01:01:53.460 really gruesome, because they have, the dogs are ripping

01:01:55.540 animals' throats out, after they confess,

01:01:58.040 you know, because of the show trials.

01:01:58.940 in this one and like they even stuff that where someone doesn't die so like snowball is chased

01:02:03.560 out of the farm and you know it's kind of implied he probably would have been killed but they don't

01:02:07.000 show it they keep him as the enemy forever in this one they just sort of like they just kind

01:02:11.440 of bully side him out of they like make him leave he just moves away he's like oh i'm not

01:02:15.860 welcome an animal farm i'm gonna leave they don't play to sort of force him out uh and then the

01:02:22.280 other big thing which people noted is it's now it's now about capitalism like the the threat to

01:02:28.500 the farm is that it's going to get foreclosed on by the bank there's an evil bank there's an evil

01:02:35.220 bank in the socialism movie this is basically blasphemy uh but and point out that in the old

01:02:43.840 white european culture disney movies people died you had to be taught as a child in these stories

01:02:50.700 these fables people died that's life there's a there's tragic consequences for for bad actions

01:02:57.680 and sometimes people bad people do very bad things uh and animal farm it just sounds like

01:03:03.980 you're gonna take all you just described a different story i mean you base that's really

01:03:09.820 the truth so again i really think that's what it comes down to we're just um there are different

01:03:15.420 we're trying to take stories from certain cultures that recognize certain truths and twist them into

01:03:22.360 a different kind of form that maybe is what they feel is more acceptable to this time or a new

01:03:28.780 worldview and it it's not that makes it a different story that makes it some this that's

01:03:35.420 tragic for me i was looking forward to watching this and now i guess it's probably not even worth

01:03:40.800 watching if they do this did we say by the way blake do you know speaking of the distribution

01:03:46.640 of the new movie was angel do you do you know offhand who it was who like funded and distributed

01:03:52.880 the 1950s animal farm the cartoon the cartoon was better than 1950s animal farm distributor

01:03:59.680 is it gonna be walt disney so i don't know exactly which company it was but famously um

01:04:06.400 a lot of the funding for that actually came from the cia oh that's great the cia used to be great

01:04:12.540 And it was seen as this like Cold War propaganda piece against the Soviets.

01:04:18.080 Oh, you're totally right.

01:04:19.280 The actual CIA was behind it.

01:04:21.380 He's totally right.

01:04:22.300 It was produced by produced by John Hallis and Joy Batchelor and funded in large part by the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:04:30.380 Let's go.

01:04:31.840 The CIA actually did one thing.

01:04:33.960 Oh, I forgot another funny thing about the new animal farm.

01:04:36.120 And so in the original story, they just straight up, they just have like a communist revolution against a farm and it's a normal farm.

01:04:41.840 And so, you know, the old pig, old major gives the speech where he lays out animal communism.

01:04:46.900 And they just they just overthrow that in this one. 0.81

01:04:49.660 The actual peril is at the start that basically the evil megacorporation is going to buy the farm and then just kind of kill all the animals.

01:04:57.720 They're going to go to a laughter house slaughterhouse.

01:05:00.040 And then that's what makes them revolt is they're all going to die.

01:05:04.200 But then they just overthrow it.

01:05:05.780 And then then the more the evil mortgage comes in.

01:05:08.060 It kind of makes me think of the way angry commie Redditors

01:05:13.600 think it's unjust for them to ever pay rent

01:05:15.880 because the mortgage on the farm that is oppressive,

01:05:18.840 I think it was literally $1,000.

01:05:22.160 And so it's like you could just picture the rhetoric like,

01:05:25.400 oh, they make me pay $1,000 for my apartment.

01:05:29.400 Nobody's ever been more oppressed than me.

01:05:32.960 It's just, oh, and there's also bad,

01:05:35.160 they just try to make it like a

01:05:37.140 you know it's not funny

01:05:39.060 there's like fart jokes in it and stuff

01:05:40.680 they should just make a dark

01:05:43.360 animal farm movie in fact I think the 50's one

01:05:45.180 is basically dark animal farm it doesn't

01:05:46.960 go well for old boxer in that one

01:05:48.940 no it's not

01:05:50.280 they should just re-release that one

01:05:53.200 actually they should just take that movie and re-release it

01:05:55.240 I mean we're showing b-roll right now

01:05:57.340 the 90's one was pretty good

01:05:58.960 I was hoping

01:06:01.260 that all they were going to do was make

01:06:03.220 a higher tech version of this

01:06:05.140 because this this is actually good i mean that there was no there's no reason to do what blake

01:06:11.500 is explaining they did that's terrible and you know the um scene where they uh where snowball

01:06:16.820 gets it um who is it is it trotsky but like see the thing the thing is they're like we don't do

01:06:24.560 this anymore we they were they were trying to emulate a real event to teach a real lesson

01:06:29.540 and draw a parallel and we're just we we have this i don't want to say it's a it's the problem

01:06:36.480 is like the humans were like the white army kind of yes they're drawing parallels to a real thing

01:06:42.820 and you're not you don't want to lose that jack so why would you sugarcoat it or tone it down or 0.64

01:06:49.160 make it softer yeah i just i i just don't agree with that version of it at all of course it's too

01:06:54.340 late for us to fully explore this topic

01:06:56.180 but what was the last

01:06:57.960 100% pure kids movie

01:07:00.000 this is not

01:07:00.900 PG-13 but truly aimed

01:07:04.000 at children

01:07:04.840 film that went really hard

01:07:07.980 in terms of has death, doesn't

01:07:10.040 shy away from dark

01:07:12.060 concepts

01:07:12.800 because kids actually can handle it

01:07:15.640 the way the old animal farm did

01:07:17.940 well go ahead

01:07:22.140 does somebody else have any ideas?

01:07:23.200 because i don't have a good answer i'm trying to think of one well like i'm gonna show my age here

01:07:28.780 i'm gonna show my age here but oh go ahead watership down oh yeah watership down when

01:07:33.380 did that come out that was 1978 1978 that one yeah see i'm gonna go back i'm gonna go back to

01:07:38.820 the 70s and maybe some in the 80s maybe but you know rankin and bass who i thought maybe produced

01:07:43.920 the original line of more farm and they didn't they used to do a lot of others including holiday

01:07:48.140 specials one of them like uh nestor the long-eared christmas donkey his mother dies it's a horribly

01:07:54.380 tragic scene you have to just deal with it and go through it um you know and there's a whole lot of

01:07:59.560 honest things about the roman empire and about the human nature uh recent i don't know my girl

01:08:08.620 it's talks in the house my girl in the house my girl was 81 my girl yeah and that that's not super

01:08:14.460 and the hound that's not super grim and graphic actually if you want to be horrified read the

01:08:18.660 plot summary of the of the book the fox and the hound well it was really messed up finding nemo

01:08:23.840 well does it does it have to be on screen because he does lose his mind i was thinking i'm thinking

01:08:28.360 on screen because there's a lot of there's a lot of children's lit that's better it took longer

01:08:31.580 for children's lit to get really bad because i was going to say um the uh the uh bridge to

01:08:37.640 terabithia which is oh i mean the movie adaptation of bridge to terabithia here's a movie

01:08:44.320 yeah there's a movie yeah 2007 um i think it's um how do you say her name say rc ronan

01:08:51.200 uh is the is the main i think and um i think she dies spoiler alert yeah she does

01:08:59.040 the novel is old the novel is from 77 but the the book is a straight adaptation of it

01:09:05.860 the movie is a straight adaptation of the book that is a lot of that's anna sofia rob

01:09:12.080 yeah okay the book so the book is from 77 the movie does 100 straight adapt it with with the

01:09:18.680 death uh kept to the same and it's it's hilarious you can find a lot of gen z kids deeply traumatized

01:09:24.940 by watching bridge terabithia i actually did read the book when i was a kid up i don't feel

01:09:29.660 it has a sad opening but i think the rest of it is a very light-hearted thing i'm kind of thinking

01:09:36.220 what stands out to me the reason i like the fox and the house his brother dies baymax his brother

01:09:41.580 big hero six it's not just that there can be a death what stands out to me about for example

01:09:49.220 the fox and the hound is that i don't even know if anyone specifically does die in the fox and

01:09:53.440 the hound but it's that the whole thing is pervaded it is like a kind of terrifying movie

01:09:57.760 at times like the bear is actually really scary in that movie and it has a bleak ending like

01:10:03.440 it's true they don't they don't reconcile they don't they don't they realize they're just

01:10:07.780 innately going to be apart and it's doesn't it's not a super depressing ending but it's much more

01:10:13.380 muted that you're going to grow up and grow apart from people yeah that's actually there is a bigger

01:10:19.180 i think topic there to just you know we don't have time tonight to get into it but how in those

01:10:24.940 especially walt disney era films and just in a lot of kids lit and kids uh content from that time

01:10:31.280 period there was a lot more like the happily ever after wasn't always required you know happily ever

01:10:38.960 after and everyone lives and everything's fine you know that wasn't always guaranteed and in fact

01:10:46.240 some of these stories worked out in such a way where it was like no we're going to teach you

01:10:50.540 that bad things happen and you're going to deal with it and you're going to be okay old yeller

01:10:54.780 right he has to shoot the dog old yeller yeah that's a great one i mean you know there's there's 0.88

01:10:58.940 other lessons to be learned but i think blake the point in the world that you're getting that 0.85

01:11:03.180 grows isn't necessarily where the red fern grows um it's it's not just about the fact that

01:11:09.760 whenever the you know the cutoff was it's the fact that that's gone now it's totally gone yeah

01:11:16.240 it's because yeah yeah and i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that like we've just lost

01:11:21.060 the ability to to tell deep stories without you know pandering to one side or the other like

01:11:29.600 yeah you can you can portray themes that you know 40 50 think of any of the walt disney films like

01:11:38.480 they all hold up today like the old disney animated films all hold up today why is that

01:11:44.400 because because they were all based on white culture well that ancient stories that but it

01:11:49.920 And that's also because the themes of those animated stories hold true to today.

01:11:57.760 And they'll hold true once we're all dead and gone.

01:12:02.220 Like, they'll continue to hold true.

01:12:03.800 And the problem is we no longer write stories that hold on to those anchors of culture, of society, of theme, right?

01:12:17.500 so aren't we isn't that because we're projecting what we want to be instead of what that that old

01:12:25.120 you know that ancient culture uh that conveyed what is you know like absolute truth this is

01:12:32.320 though these are the realities of life maybe we want to make them better maybe we fight to make

01:12:37.120 them better and god knows we hope for them to be better but we don't ignore that this is how it is

01:12:42.660 Rebby Doe. Yeah, go ahead, Jack. I was going to say Rebby Doe in the chat had a great, a great example of what Blake's talking about.

01:12:50.800 Pinocchio. Yeah. Pinocchio is really dark scenes in it. Oh, my. Oh, my God.

01:12:56.860 Even their Christmas special was dark. I mean, and it ends, you know, to some degree better.

01:13:02.700 But yeah, it didn't end with total tragedy. But you don't always get what you want.

01:13:08.040 Pinocchio is a great example that Jiminy Cricket bounces on him and he's like, look, you're just going to learn.

01:13:12.660 And you're going to have one catastrophe after another.

01:13:15.220 And you're going to learn the hard way, kid.

01:13:17.640 And that's what he does.

01:13:18.860 That's a great one.

01:13:19.720 Who said that?

01:13:20.360 Good for you.

01:13:21.480 That's a great example.

01:13:22.740 We're hitting our heart out time, but this is a very fun topic.

01:13:25.580 We did get one last donation from Zuzu's Petals.

01:13:28.160 Thank you very much, Zuzu, for being such a supporter.

01:13:30.340 She says, we need another Frank Capra and a conservative to go to film school and make great movies.

01:13:36.160 That is, in the end, the only substitute. 0.99

01:13:37.720 we can't we can't beg hollywood and we can't beg a bunch of libs to please make

01:13:42.180 good movie slop for us we must make our own slop and unslopify it isn't that right well said

01:13:47.900 well said well said no and that's that's and just to bring it up again that's why we did

01:13:53.480 that's why we did the halftime show that we did that's why we dialed it in to the type of americana

01:14:01.340 rock country music that people in middle america who are totally underrepresented

01:14:08.280 and certainly underrepresented when it comes to super bowls that they want to listen to and

01:14:14.040 something that wasn't pandering to them and condescending to them and something that celebrated

01:14:18.220 that part of america too rather than and you notice if you go watch we didn't attack anybody

01:14:24.640 we very deliberately did not mention bad bunny uh believe me i wanted to um and and i was like you

01:14:32.300 know what and nobody told me not to i said but i just made the decision i said you know what

01:14:35.580 i'm not even going to mention his name i want to keep it positive and that's what one positive

01:14:40.420 good alternative culture but it's got to be good right it's if we didn't you notice there wasn't

01:14:45.960 anything political about it it wasn't political it wasn't like here's a conservative message like

01:14:50.820 No, no. Obviously, yeah, we, you know, we talked about turning point, but there was no overarching, like, go vote for Donald Trump or something like that. No, no, it was good American culture. And that's how people responded to it. That's why I got the numbers did number two largest YouTube live stream in history up till, you know, up till now. And the sky's the limit. I think the market is absolutely there for that.

01:15:17.580 yeah all right well we've hit against our time limit thanks for guiding along everyone we hit

01:15:23.420 a lot of fun a lot of fun stuff but we have to head out it's late in the evening even here in

01:15:29.680 phoenix and so all of you go home keep committing thought crimes

01:15:36.120 Don't cry me as death. 0.98

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 09, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 126 — The End of Star Wars？

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