Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 26, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 144 — Lesbian Bar Drama? Toys 'R' Us Returns? Elon Musk's Paramount?

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00:00:23.660 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Thought Crime Thursday,
00:00:29.360 where i am as you can see live on location i'm actually in saint louis missouri and we literally
00:00:39.540 as we're recording this just finished the beatification mass of fulton j sheen and you
00:00:47.300 can in fact see the procession i guess right over here behind me over my shoulder and you can see
00:00:54.220 Folks are filing out 1,000 priests were here today, 89 bishops, and about another 1,000 sisters, nuns, religious clergy, so many people here, as well as a cardinal directly from the Vatican.
00:01:10.800 Just an incredible American moment, incredible time to be an American, obviously a huge moment for the church, but a huge moment also for America.
00:01:18.220 and the idea of publicly bringing God and Christ back into the public square.
00:01:25.700 And he is actually the very first American-born bishop to be declared blessed, beatified by the church,
00:01:34.700 which means that's just one step, one step below sainthood.
00:01:39.220 And in fact, so it requires one miracle to be blessed, and just to give the lay of the land here a little bit,
00:01:46.920 and uh it's very hard to to come by these they have a a child who was born with 61 minutes uh
00:01:55.160 his heart heart stopped for 61 minutes they um they couldn't find anything they thought he was
00:02:01.720 done for they prayed for fulton sheen to intercede on his behalf boy started living and just an
00:02:07.600 incredible thing that boy actually walked in the procession here today 16 years old now he presented
00:02:15.100 the relic of blessed fulton sheen on the the stage i believe it's still on the stage it is
00:02:21.060 actually his jawbone is now in a reliquary on stage right here in saint louis minceurian it's
00:02:26.860 gonna be on display as people head out afterwards so just incredible i mean talk about thought
00:02:31.400 crimes right he was the biggest thought criminal of them all fulton sheen if anyone watches his
00:02:36.040 shows his clips just amazing what's up guys so jack that's awesome um how does i'm i'm curious
00:02:43.080 Okay, so let's just state it out at the onset here.
00:02:46.740 I think Fulton Sheen is a mountain of a man, one of the legends.
00:02:50.480 It was him and Billy Graham.
00:02:51.900 Earlier today, I said they were like the double-barrel shotgun of mass Christianity,
00:02:56.240 a major move of God in the United States in the 50s and 60s, and then beyond. 0.59
00:03:02.200 But I'm curious, because I've always had this question.
00:03:04.500 Actually, Cerno explained it to me one time, but I forgot his answer.
00:03:07.960 But I remember thinking, that's pretty good.
00:03:09.100 But when we talk about praying to somebody to intercede, right?
00:03:13.940 So as a Protestant, I was always taught that we have one intercessor, and that is Jesus Christ, right?
00:03:19.300 That's like the book of Hebrews.
00:03:20.980 What's the Catholic theology on that exactly?
00:03:24.540 I was going to ask the same question because I don't know either.
00:03:27.980 Well, so the difference is between mediator and intercessor.
00:03:32.880 So a mediator is, of course, Christ.
00:03:35.480 Christ is the only one who can mediate between the laity, the human beings, and heaven and God.
00:03:43.220 Of course, there's no question.
00:03:44.560 Prayer of intercession is simply going to someone who we believe is already in heaven and saying, hey, can you put in a good word for me?
00:03:52.920 It's the idea of asking them to pray to.
00:03:57.940 A lot of people will say that, oh, Catholics believe that it's praying to that person.
00:04:02.520 But no, it's not praying to them.
00:04:03.980 asking them as a favor hey can you pray for me as well okay yeah i remember thinking it was like
00:04:09.900 not a bad because like okay i think if i'm remembering serno was like basically well
00:04:15.160 you know we believe in life everlasting right so they're still alive so you can you ask somebody
00:04:21.280 who's living to say a prayer for you kind of thing i think that's how i remember i gotta look into it
00:04:25.620 more because i've always you know i admit we're already getting sectional disputes yeah in the
00:04:31.500 rumble chat we have sergeant t 1978 god performed the miracle not the dead archbishop yeah the holy
00:04:39.240 spirit is the intercessor well there's but again that's wait wait wait but that's but there's no
00:04:44.360 that is the obviously god performs the miracle no no one's ever said otherwise there's no question
00:04:50.860 the idea is that you you asked for the intercession of at the time venerable fulton
00:04:57.720 sheen now blessed fulton sheen uh you know to pray for pray for in this case it was the sun
00:05:02.620 and and really at the end of the day the the fact of the matter is that boy did live after his heart
00:05:07.600 not beating for 61 minutes and what's just amazing as an american story that he was here today
00:05:13.800 participating in this 16 years after that happened that is incredible that is wild though you gotta
00:05:20.240 like that's a little wacky why he had he has like veneers is there a reason why why they have his
00:05:25.740 jawbone in that particular form because that's very catholic right it is but usually they're
00:05:30.140 usually they're like dead a longer time right it's a relic a person's bones were more
00:05:34.140 dissectable whereas we yeah that's an interesting question because it is kind of a it feels like an
00:05:40.360 ancient thing right yeah you would bury somebody and then they would bury they did a lot of wacky
00:05:45.300 stuff in the middle ages they would straight up they would just dig up their body and they would
00:05:48.260 just dig up but the body was already magical mystery bits the body was already kind of wacky
00:05:52.620 blake it's not wacky this is our this is catholic tradition it's not you know you know the lot of
00:05:57.160 catholic tradition is super wacky especially you know this is a specially church we are
00:06:01.860 in mexico maxine in mexico maxine look i'm not gonna be i'm not gonna hang out here and and
00:06:08.960 call this kooky while we're literally in the thing i think that would be very disrespectful 0.81
00:06:13.080 yeah listen here's here's what i would tell you uh fulton sheen is the freaking man so why don't
00:06:19.380 we just play some of his his best of uh how about this um here we go stop three 0.62
00:06:27.580 this is the error of western civilization
00:06:33.200 modern western civilization has identified freedom with freedom from constraint
00:06:43.100 and it denies goals and purposes and ends all of our freedoms have certain goals and certain
00:06:50.440 purposes and objectives the result is that our people of our western world simply because they
00:06:57.900 do not know why they are living they've never decided what they're going to do with their
00:07:01.840 freedom find it boring they would like to surrender their responsibility they're full
00:07:09.260 of anxieties and worries and there's nothing in life that is quite as boring as a purposeless
00:07:14.420 existence. Simply because our Western civilization has not found the meaning and the purpose of life
00:07:23.640 simply because it concentrates upon freedom from something, our Western world is strong
00:07:31.320 Only in war
00:07:32.640 And not in peace
00:07:33.960 It's strong only in war
00:07:38.660 Because it has
00:07:39.400 The basic objective
00:07:40.860 At least of defending
00:07:41.860 Our own existence
00:07:42.660 But it is not strong in peace
00:07:44.540 Because it has 0.99
00:07:45.580 No unified faith
00:07:46.780 No universal goal
00:07:49.200 No universally recognized
00:07:51.760 Purpose in life
00:07:53.000 Yes
00:07:54.920 That's powerful
00:07:55.860 Charlie used to talk
00:07:57.540 About that a lot
00:07:57.980 So good
00:07:58.720 I will say it stood out to me
00:07:59.980 When he was talking
00:08:00.880 That his accent felt hard to place
00:08:03.100 And I looked up where he's from
00:08:03.900 It's just El Paso, Illinois
00:08:05.240 Random small town in central Illinois
00:08:07.460 I don't feel like they talk like that anymore
00:08:09.980 No, they don't
00:08:10.720 And it didn't sound Irish
00:08:13.320 It was Irish by descent
00:08:14.680 Yeah, you see
00:08:15.500 It's like
00:08:16.840 It felt a little mid-Atlantic
00:08:19.580 Isn't it that like
00:08:20.920 Yeah, the mid-Atlantic accent
00:08:23.300 It's like FD, FD, ah
00:08:25.920 Kind of had that accent
00:08:27.300 But it is crazy
00:08:30.020 because that is a new you think of new york elites and this guy i'm just looking at his history he
00:08:34.580 went to uh they moved to peoria illinois and then he went to uh university in illinois and then he
00:08:41.620 studied a seminary in st paul minnesota so very midwestern and midwesterners don't talk that way
00:08:47.260 much but he was he was the bishop of new york fair maybe it all just bled over that for about 15
00:08:55.300 years so so it could have just kind of 1895 based yeah uh and and again like that was sort of like
00:09:03.080 and that mid-atlantic accent always was a sort of you know affected way of speaking anyway so it
00:09:10.300 could just be like you say like he just kind of picked it up he was a showman let's be honest
00:09:14.080 the guy was a showman he knew how to capture the camera and he did it he did a good job of that
00:09:20.220 Angelo says we need to play clip four and clip 19, so we're going to do it.
00:09:23.260 Clip four.
00:09:24.620 We have rights and liberties, like freedom of press, freedom of conscience, freedom of association,
00:09:32.460 which do not come from the government, which do not come from the will of a majority,
00:09:38.160 which do not come from a state.
00:09:40.220 These rights and liberties come to us from God.
00:09:43.300 Therefore, the state cannot take them away.
00:09:45.840 That is our principle.
00:09:46.760 Now they have to deny God, because that would be another source of rights than the state
00:09:52.760 or the party.
00:09:53.760 In order to build up this structure of theirs in which the party is supreme, they must hold
00:09:59.640 that any right or liberty which the individual possesses comes to him from the party.
00:10:05.480 Therefore the party can take the rights and liberties away.
00:10:09.940 But if there was a God, then there would be rights not dependent on the party.
00:10:15.740 they have to deny god so good yeah i mean that feels like writing writing message with the
00:10:23.400 founders which is right we consider these truths to be unalienable or these rights to be inalienable
00:10:29.540 self-evident exactly what am i saying exactly we hold these truths to be self-evident and they
00:10:34.280 are endowed with their creator with certain inalienable rights gosh i got my uh brain my
00:10:37.880 brain got to study one of those hillsdale courses yeah exactly no but the point is and then charlie
00:10:41.960 would always say that we we have freedom but in the western world we use it as freedom to be
00:10:47.440 licentious right as opposed to we have freedom to be virtuous right and uh the founders didn't
00:10:53.960 believe in licentiousness that was not the freedom that they were ascribing anyways continue on i'm
00:11:00.040 just looking at other stuff that's just interesting about him apparently his show had to get taken off
00:11:05.380 the air because he had a beef with a cardinal over paying for uh powdered milk that they received
00:11:13.240 this isn't saying this is from raymond arroyo wrote a book and it was this was why life is
00:11:16.860 worth living went off the air in the 1950s the government donated millions of dollars of powdered
00:11:21.460 milk to the new york archdiocese cardinal spellman of that archdiocese handed that milk over to the
00:11:27.800 society for the propagation of the faith to distribute it to the world's poor on at least
00:11:31.940 one occasion he asked that the director of the society bishop fulton sheen pay the archdiocese
00:11:37.300 for the milk he wanted millions of dollars despite cardinal spellman's considerable powers of
00:11:41.880 persuasion sheen refused and then apparently spellman said i may take six months or ten years
00:11:48.940 but i will get even with you everyone will know what you are like and apparently he like froze
00:11:55.960 bishop sheen out of parishes in new york city and then he got the pope to appoint him the bishop
00:12:02.940 of rochester new york to get him out of the city and so no no beef like a new york clerical beef
00:12:10.320 i guess also on the more uh upside things i didn't realize martin sheen his uh stage name of course
00:12:15.960 this was also i was gonna say this is um this is also because that keep in mind that that a lot of
00:12:24.240 the other bishops didn't like the fact that he had so much influence and so much renown.
00:12:31.600 And, you know, this was all kind of happening in the context of Vatican II, which was the
00:12:37.780 liberal side of the church gaining more primacy.
00:12:40.720 So, of course, they were working together to take down one of the most obviously conservative
00:12:46.760 bishops that was publicly out there.
00:12:49.080 So I think it's probably a little bit more than just the powdered milk.
00:12:54.240 yeah i mean you're probably right i mean the church is not immune from petty squabbles or
00:13:02.200 turf wars we we certainly are aware of that uh but in general do we did we play 19 we have not
00:13:08.100 okay let's play uh let's play this i feel like jack this is your your favorite sheen
00:13:13.100 this is your favorite uh sheen here uh 19.
00:13:16.860 I mean, it's a right and saying this world needs a revolution, but not their cheap kind, 0.87
00:13:22.280 which merely transferred booty and loot out of one man's pocket into another.
00:13:28.140 We need the kind of a revolution in the United States and in the rest of the world
00:13:32.560 that will purge out of a man's heart, pride and covetousness and lust and anger and envy and gluttony and self.
00:13:39.680 In other words, the true battle against communism begins within the heart of every single America.
00:13:48.500 It means the recovery of our own great traditions, of our belief in God, of an affirmation in politics and in economic life,
00:13:56.380 and among our politicians of the things that are right and true before God.
00:14:01.820 Then we need not fear communism, for if God is with us, then who can be against us?
00:14:09.680 it's really so good i'm just i'm getting amazed reading more of stuff apparently that was so good
00:14:17.220 his uh when life was worth living life is worth living to butte it was competing directly with
00:14:22.160 the frank sinatra show on cbs and it defeated the frank sinatra show which was canceled competing
00:14:29.820 in a time slot against a bishop giving people dude the guy had swag he had some swag that's
00:14:37.060 what i'm saying i'm not surprised to see the veneers he was like i i'm a showman so i know
00:14:41.840 that um i know that uh that uh we don't do jackets but i did want to show so uh on thought
00:14:48.820 crime but i did want to show so they're they're giving out these nice pins here uh where you can
00:14:53.420 get uh for your jacket so it's right there a little lapel pin of jmj uh and this is what he
00:14:59.640 would write at the top of every single one of his chalkboard talks when he would do the chalk talks
00:15:05.260 He may have been the first guy on television to ever do that.
00:15:07.960 He would always write at the top, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, JMJ.
00:15:11.420 He was the original Karl Rove.
00:15:13.900 Is that what you're saying?
00:15:15.080 Or Glenn Beck.
00:15:16.420 Glenn Beck does the chalkboard, too.
00:15:19.360 I remember, actually, one AmFest, Glenn Beck was basically,
00:15:24.800 hey, I need a chalkboard, you know?
00:15:26.460 He couldn't find one, so he had to go with the whiteboard.
00:15:29.620 I'm just getting amazed.
00:15:30.580 Other stuff, the fifth Primetime Emmy Awards.
00:15:33.360 So this is only the fifth Emmys ever held.
00:15:35.960 They had a category, most outstanding personality as a host.
00:15:40.400 Fulton Sheen wins, and he defeats in this category some of the names.
00:15:44.880 Lucille Ball, Edward R. Murrow, Adlai Stevenson, a few others.
00:15:49.060 Jimmy Durante, like all of these legendary people in television.
00:15:52.460 And also Adlai Stevenson for some reason.
00:15:54.740 Is there an image of this, of him accepting the...
00:15:59.040 That would be quite the image if they have that.
00:16:01.140 uh i'm sure i'm sure there's an image of it somewhere but but do you guys know wait blake
00:16:06.360 does it say uh the story goes that when he when he received the emmy he got up there and said
00:16:12.860 well i of course i'd like to thank the uh you know the academy for choosing me here on this
00:16:18.140 and and i'd also like to thank my writers matthew mark luke and john oh that's amazing did he really
00:16:25.340 Did he say that?
00:16:27.360 That's awesome.
00:16:28.180 Or is that a joke?
00:16:29.400 It certainly sounds incredible.
00:16:31.020 I mean, he does have...
00:16:32.220 It sounds true.
00:16:32.940 It sounds true.
00:16:33.660 It does sound true.
00:16:35.500 Is this him?
00:16:36.420 Yeah.
00:16:38.540 Yeah.
00:16:40.280 That's wild.
00:16:41.300 I'm trying to see.
00:16:42.000 Is this him holding...
00:16:43.180 No, that's not him.
00:16:43.840 I think we only have meme images of him holding it
00:16:46.280 rather than...
00:16:47.100 I don't know if they broadcast that all live back then.
00:16:50.260 That's crazy.
00:16:50.520 There were only like five TV stations out back in the day.
00:16:52.860 A lot of I was I've been so I've been I've been talking to a lot of the funny enough, a lot of the guys here sort of about the the the records and the archives of the Fulton Sheen show.
00:17:05.940 And while I think there's 280 hours of it that exists that are known to exist in terms of the footage, but only about 80 hours of it have ever been digitized.
00:17:15.500 So there's like another 200 hours of Fulton Sheen's show that just hasn't been released yet.
00:17:20.500 And it wouldn't surprise me that that's part of it because a lot of it, it's like ABC or CBS have it in their archives.
00:17:26.400 There's also a radio show that, believe it or not, he started his radio show in 1926, so 100 years ago.
00:17:35.360 This guy started on the radio, and he went all the way through World War II.
00:17:41.140 Sorry.
00:17:41.720 I know we got a delay because you're remote right now.
00:17:43.800 but it'd be interesting to see like how he handled you know the wall street crash you know uh 29 you
00:17:51.080 know or the great depression that'd be really interesting to kind of hear even even world war
00:17:55.160 ii as well yeah certainly you hear him talk about communism it'd be really interesting to hear him
00:17:59.760 talk about well that that was what was interesting he was talking about we are only mighty in war
00:18:04.120 because at least we have a gathering principle at least we have something that sort of like
00:18:07.380 gives us a goal and a purpose and so so but that is the military industrial complex that's what like
00:18:14.380 all of us have been raging against the neocons for it's like we can't just be happy and peace
00:18:18.900 we've got no gathering principle we got no which is why then we just keep moving on and on with
00:18:23.520 forever it's almost like it fills some empty vapid void within the hearts of our politicians
00:18:28.500 because of what fulton sheen said go ahead jack sorry sorry brother no so so i was going to say
00:18:35.700 You mentioned about what Russ was just saying about communism. So he not only did he decry communism and he would he went so hard that even after the United States publicly allied, of course, with the Soviet Union in the in World War Two, that J. Edgar Hoover went so far as to open up an investigation on Fulton Sheen.
00:18:59.320 and he had him tailed by an FBI agent and they found that, uh, Hoover. And he found, he said
00:19:07.620 that, that, you know, they couldn't find anything on him that he had never done. And he obviously
00:19:11.780 it was, was against the war effort, but that he just wouldn't stop condemning communism,
00:19:16.700 even regardless of, of us allying with them in the war. So the FBI literally investigated him.
00:19:21.460 But one cool thing though happened is that after the war ends and the cold war begins
00:19:27.460 that Fulton Sheen's anti-communism actually became very beneficial to the FBI.
00:19:32.920 And believe it or not, he actually used to work to convert public socialists and communists in
00:19:38.680 the United States, like Bella Dodd, who was the head of the teachers union. He converts her to
00:19:43.580 Catholicism. And then she starts working for the FBI as an informant against the Soviet Union
00:19:50.760 and against like Soviet cells within the United States. So, I mean, it's just this whole part of
00:19:56.460 our story from the 1950s that we've been like you know it's just been completely denied from
00:20:01.880 our history that's that's that's to make this incredible patriot beyond beyond the obvious
00:20:06.240 also an incredible patriot you know what that makes me think of though jack since this you
00:20:11.560 know is a show that we love to remember charlie is that uh charlie i'll never forget you said
00:20:17.100 mlk he was investigated by the fbi right well so was mlk and that's a man that they did find
00:20:23.500 some things on i mean it's just i'm just saying you know not all reverence uh oh man follow follow
00:20:32.120 the scriptures the same way uh but that you know that's we don't have to make it about that but i
00:20:38.360 i would say that that came actually actually they did i will say though i will say there was one
00:20:43.700 thing that he found uh apparently in the report now i guess they got the file later they did find
00:20:48.560 that he talked his way out of getting a speeding ticket or a parking ticket or something good man
00:20:53.360 good man well that's just because he had the gift of gab he was a great salesman oh man that's fun
00:21:00.380 that's why his jawbone is up there that's why the jawbone is up there all right jawbone it's
00:21:05.360 just very weird that is a good point he had the gift of gab they they actually explicitly say
00:21:10.020 that's why it's um here we got to play false compassion and i think we got to go on to
00:21:16.020 lesbians uh here we go that's not one false compassion which is gradually growing in this 0.68
00:21:23.880 country is a pity that is shown not to the mugged but to the mugger 0.79
00:21:32.200 not to the family of the murdered
00:21:37.680 but to the murderer there are the social slobberers who insist on compassion being
00:21:48.180 shown to the muggers to the dope fiends to the throat slashers to the beatniks to the 0.96
00:21:55.540 prostitutes to the homosexuals to the punks so that today the decent man is practically 0.99
00:22:05.240 off the reservation this is the false compassion reject all compassion for beatniks destroy the 1.00
00:22:16.920 beatniks bring bring back the words there's also social slobber yes social slobber is great
00:22:23.260 there's a really um there's a really good uh in the extended version of that he starts going off
00:22:31.260 and he says it came from literature
00:22:33.440 and in fact it came from the books
00:22:35.540 he starts writing up some
00:22:36.900 names of authors and he goes
00:22:39.640 and John Seinbeck 0.99
00:22:41.640 that slob 1.00
00:22:43.160 you know I mean what's 1.00
00:22:47.580 interesting when is the last
00:22:49.660 time anybody in the mainstream
00:22:51.500 said anything about the homosexual
00:22:53.400 lifestyle like that
00:22:55.180 I mean that's talk about thought
00:22:57.600 crime that was I mean
00:22:59.280 wow okay all right let's go all right now let's speak anyway we're going to decry this we are 0.97
00:23:07.320 going to decry the lifestyle because we need to talk about the lesbian bar in western massachusetts
00:23:11.600 i insisted upon this because it is the funniest article if our audience ever written i hope there
00:23:18.000 are people in the audience that are completely unawares of this because it is absolute gold it
00:23:24.400 is it is so this is an article by the boston globe and their magazine section i'm actually
00:23:29.080 not as familiar with it so please you're not all right so this dropped a couple days ago as of
00:23:33.400 this recording i've seen the headline out of nowhere by annalisa quinn and it's an article
00:23:36.700 about it's so great because it basically has a very anodyne headline it's like a western
00:23:42.660 massachusetts lesbian bar required kn95 masks when it changed the rules all hell broke loose
00:23:49.340 very dry very dry it's like last ditch bar in greenfield wanted to build community they got
00:23:54.620 a firestorm instead and then if you go past that dry headline you start reading the content of it
00:24:00.820 and you get it you really all of you should find this article find an archived version of it so
00:24:06.860 you can read the full thing or you know what subscribe to the boston globe for at least a
00:24:10.560 month to read it they deserve it because every paragraph of this article is stupendous i'm just
00:24:16.080 going to read the start of it but we should get through all of the contents of it seriously the
00:24:19.720 august 31st instagram post from last ditch bar and arts venue a lesbian bar in greenfield was
00:24:26.480 upbeat teasing a new dj lineup and a volunteer meetup but part way down the rainbow hued post
00:24:33.200 labeled updates was a sentence that would splinter the queer community of this small pioneer valley 0.78
00:24:39.320 city and beyond it is with love we inform our immunocompromised disabled divas that we will 0.87
00:24:47.840 be opening saturday nights as mask optional wrote last ditch previously patrons were required to wear 1.00
00:24:56.940 a well-fitted kn95 mask or better at all times you get a new approve the new policy was not received
00:25:06.300 with love just say you're being complicit in a mass disabling event and get over it wrote one
00:25:13.040 commenter people people like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and 0.99
00:25:19.460 convenience posted another i hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow immunocompromised 0.98
00:25:28.560 people of their saturday plans just to scrape extra revenue from ableists wrote a third
00:25:34.840 oh oh and it goes from there listen the thread grew to 442 comments some supportive but many
00:25:41.780 furious the people running their the bar were accused of being ableist eugenicist even for
00:25:47.960 relaxing their signature policy in the face of what commenters consider an ongoing pandemic
00:25:53.680 parenthesis greenfield hasn't reported any covet cases more than two months no it's so perfect
00:25:58.580 like it's it's so great they are literally they are literally covid dead enders they're still
00:26:04.840 requiring masks they're still having people lose their minds because they were in an ongoing
00:26:09.420 pandemic that everyone else moved on from five years exactly well it's it's kind of like that
00:26:14.900 story of the japanese guy in world war ii that like was on that island and then like 20 years
00:26:20.800 later he still thought we were fighting it i've been there i've been there to guam yes what was
00:26:25.760 there were a bunch all over i think the last one was in the philippines and he went 30 years or
00:26:31.460 something 30 years yeah these people are going to be like buried in the masks the one in the one in
00:26:37.640 guam they had to um they had to like dig up his commanding officer because he didn't believe that
00:26:45.600 the war had ended he because he said japan would never surrender and so he said he said this is a
00:26:51.160 a trick of the western devils and he actually started shooting at people who tried to come in
00:26:55.940 and get and like get him out of there yeah and they had to go find his commanding officer from
00:27:00.120 japan and then bring him back to order him to come out and lay down his sword yeah this one it just
00:27:05.740 it's so great the bar posts an apology you can read that one so they they posted an apology we
00:27:11.700 are so sorry for our passive and dismissive tone of our change in norms and schedule impacting the
00:27:18.480 most intersectional of us the most intersectional on instagram they instead of diffusing the
00:27:24.840 situation the apology seemed to make things worse the bar had aired it posted an instagram card
00:27:31.260 without providing alt text for the visually impaired without providing a fresh round of
00:27:37.920 accusations of ableism without providing alt text for the visually impaired this is basically this
00:27:44.740 is not an this is basically a genocide so let me explain in broader terms like how this story
00:27:51.300 plays out right so these three friends uh faz if you can yeah get them up um oh we have a rumble
00:27:57.720 rant let's start there zuzu's petals maybe they wanted to keep the masks because they weren't
00:28:02.540 pretty enough to show their faces and flirt successfully well you'd be the judge okay 1.00
00:28:09.140 one of the better parts about this article is you cannot tell how many of the lesbians are
00:28:13.660 lesbian and how many of the women are women because yes the answer may be zero or are they 0.86
00:28:18.020 all or are they all they are are they all carnies and here's the funny part is one of these three 0.91
00:28:25.320 gals or whatever they are uh who started this bar together ended up leaving the venture to go to
00:28:32.160 clown school yeah just what's missing from my life and they see like a little clown go by yes so
00:28:37.780 here's what's here's here's the broad strokes of what happened so the bar apologizes instead of
00:28:42.580 quelling the rebellion it makes it worse and it gets really out of hand uh the i think it's the
00:28:50.100 gal on the left there of your screen the one that actually looks like a woman oh wow let's let's 0.79
00:28:54.920 be in general i mean of all of them that one on the left is definitely she's the only one without
00:28:59.640 facial hair yeah this this is one of those moments where you want the beau french uh language he's
00:29:06.480 like dear god it's worse than we thought right just looking at the picture anyway so uh anyway
00:29:12.960 so they try and make it uh apologize it makes it worse they all gather for a like a zoom call and
00:29:19.540 an in-person call some of the people wouldn't come in person some of them only would join by zoom
00:29:24.080 uh because they were that upset and at this point two of the people had left i believe the gal on 0.98
00:29:29.800 the left that does appear to be a female um was the last one remaining she was living in her truck 0.99
00:29:35.360 working four jobs $50,000 in debt and she was just trying to hold on to this place and pay the rent
00:29:41.380 in order to keep the bar alive for the communal aspect of it all and then Blake they bring in a
00:29:47.600 mediator who's a white therapist yeah white therapist oh man let's get into the mediator
00:29:52.780 all right so uh two designated mediators were there to facilitate conversations
00:29:58.540 da da da and then they take the zoom attendees speculated that the mediator's license status
00:30:07.980 made her a mandated reporter an agent of the state akin to police one person going by moss
00:30:15.820 asked the mediator if they could have them hospitalized against their will adding that
00:30:20.620 the mediator's presence was quote wildly unsafe yeah but then they basically say that it's all
00:30:28.740 racist so somehow it becomes a racist uh party here and that the therapist because it's a white
00:30:36.300 therapist isn't able to speak a lot of people are calling for an acknowledgement of harm and i'm
00:30:41.980 hearing a white therapist centering the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff
00:30:48.600 writes noir who is black someone it's someone going by their like drag name too their name is
00:30:54.020 something noir and it's not their real name it's their performer name uh you chose to use your
00:31:00.660 time to spill tears and center your feelings noir posted in the chat this is incredibly racist and
00:31:07.100 deflecting behavior eventually after three and a half hours of discussion the meeting wrapped up
00:31:12.100 noir had more to say but when someone suggested he come to the next community meeting he refused
00:31:17.020 there's a lot of emotional and physical labor that goes into this so for you as a white person
00:31:22.200 that asks for me to stay for another meeting for free he said is incredibly disingenuous and racist
00:31:29.460 i'm not doing that yeah i mean this is i i don't know but here a couple things the the reporter
00:31:37.780 did such a good job of just telling it straight yes when your subjects are so insane when they
00:31:43.920 are so bananas so bizarre so off the reservation just tell it straight yeah just tell it straight
00:31:50.220 this is crazy insanity just bleeds through straight tell it straight tell it straight
00:31:54.840 um but these people are existing in a subculture that is so insular and is so foreign to most of
00:32:03.720 us that it's like going to the zoo reading this it's really getting that what what should the
00:32:07.640 business model be if you're a fading newspaper like the boston globe which hasn't kept up with
00:32:12.180 the new york times la you know the ones that have really become national papers honestly this
00:32:17.140 apparently they got over a thousand new subscribers just out this article went massively viral by far
00:32:23.820 their most read article in ages liberal newspapers in liberal areas you've got to provide freak show
00:32:32.200 content of your local libs because this sort of thing is happening all the time noir i just love
00:32:38.980 they're describing this green field is both physically and spiritually sometimes referred
00:32:43.240 to as lesbianville usa in the pioneer valley quote every bar is a lesbian bar nevertheless 0.97
00:32:50.100 last ditch which opened last year as a bar for quote dykes transsexuals gender freaks workers 0.90
00:32:57.100 and their friends is struggling yeah so that's the whole point is that basically it was doing 1.00
00:33:03.040 really well business is good then they do this whole mask optional thing you know six years after
00:33:08.780 covid started and it everybody leaves it they bail on it it becomes this huge controversy within
00:33:14.820 this community i i genuinely can't imagine i mean this feels like blue sky on steroids it's the same
00:33:21.760 spirit as blue sky in real life i just love this like one wondered if they could have a lady gaga
00:33:27.900 themed night to like revive the bar's fortunes and mixy one of the people here demurs gaga is
00:33:34.680 canceled she says gaga is zionist well and this and this reporter goes on to talk to this noir
00:33:41.900 person and these these quotes are stuff that we've been hearing for the last year and a half
00:33:49.300 i'm not going to give grace spreading rhetoric that can and will get people hurt
00:33:54.240 he's referring to the fact that the bar account had liked a few comments supporting the relaxed
00:33:59.760 rule yeah i'm telling you this is like when we talk about peak woke we're gonna look back at
00:34:05.400 this and be like there's these little outposts in guam in the philippines are these people still
00:34:09.700 fighting their world war still 20 it's still 2020 in terms of how woke they are and how they
00:34:15.200 approach covid but insane mass frenzy this is why people freak out when they see the inner workings
00:34:20.500 of like a dsa meeting and they're like point of personal privilege they're always like this and
00:34:24.480 they're like here's my privilege card i get every live organization out of campus is like this this
00:34:28.680 is the the culmination this is the the obvious conclusion of these people in their insanity left
00:34:34.080 unabated left unaddressed one of the things that is is really interesting about this to me by the 0.99
00:34:39.900 way that's underappreciated and it's kind of a big picture thing it gets at how lesbians are very
00:34:46.080 different from gay men have you have you ever noticed that and like yeah okay they're men and
00:34:50.960 women of course but well most of the time anyway and but on top of but on top of that like they 1.00
00:34:57.420 have radically different 1.00
00:34:59.140 cultural practices in a way 1.00
00:35:01.260 that I think... Don't lesbians and gay guys
00:35:03.160 not really mix too much? They don't. 1.00
00:35:05.260 And even think about this as an example.
00:35:07.120 I don't think... I would say
00:35:09.220 as an example, that's interesting. Gay men 0.96
00:35:11.120 actually hang out with women all the time. 0.99
00:35:13.260 Gay male hairdresser, gay male drama 0.99
00:35:15.120 stuff. They go into female spaces. 0.99
00:35:17.060 Lesbian women don't mix with men. 1.00
00:35:20.020 Everyone's got... 1.00
00:35:21.040 Gay male hairdresser. There's not lesbian 1.00
00:35:23.160 barbers. They hang out 1.00
00:35:25.380 with other women. Other lesbian women.
00:35:27.420 hold on. All right. You want to have some real thought crimes? Let's have some real thought 1.00
00:35:31.080 crimes. Yeah. So Blake, so, all right. So Blake, for example, you mentioned a certain type of gay
00:35:37.820 man, but there are two types of gay men. So yes, there's a lot of misogynist lesbians. There's no 0.96
00:35:43.160 question. We all get that. We all know we're very familiar with it. Unfortunately, uh, we,
00:35:47.600 we can't seem to be away from it, but there's two types of gay men. All right. There's, there's, 1.00
00:35:52.760 there's the type that you mentioned but then there's also the gay men who hate women all 1.00
00:35:58.500 right there's there's also the misandrist gay men who are like i can't stand them i don't want 0.99
00:36:04.480 anything to do with them and that makes him go off in the other direction those are two different 0.95
00:36:10.400 teams those are definitely i feel like almost i don't i feel like i don't encounter the uh the
00:36:15.140 misogynist gay men like they exist but they seem very rare i'm thinking in general like you think
00:36:22.260 that gay men are very artsy as it were musical something it feels true i mean not that's fair 0.92
00:36:29.500 not all women but like that a lot of that is another thing i think about that's interesting
00:36:34.000 notice literally just even stuff beyond even stuff beyond just lifestyle stuff think about
00:36:39.280 the fact that this bar this lesbian bar is very obviously also a political project oh we're gonna 0.99
00:36:44.100 ban police from this bar we're going to talk about lady gaga and like they welcome oh yeah 0.95
00:36:49.660 They care about Zionism and Palestine. 0.95
00:36:52.560 They allow homeless people to go in there. 0.98
00:36:54.580 In comparison, does any gay bar have a political ideology? 0.99
00:36:58.560 They'll have the gay flag, and they would allow cops in 0.93
00:37:01.200 because they want their strippers to be dressed like cops or whatever. 0.82
00:37:03.800 They just feel much more good time boys.
00:37:06.300 Yeah, exactly. 1.00
00:37:06.980 I mean, a gay bar is much more likely to cause a new pandemic 1.00
00:37:10.860 than to be a never-ending bitter end against the last one. 1.00
00:37:16.320 A gay bar is also a key word there. 0.91
00:37:18.360 It is. 1.00
00:37:19.060 be very like lesbians are very resentful like they're they're kind of ideologies like they're 1.00
00:37:23.160 you know gays are gay you know they're we're we're not gay i mean is that what where is that 0.99
00:37:28.760 why we started calling gay men gay because they're sort of i think i think it kind of did start from 0.95
00:37:33.560 that like as a euphemism sort of thing like musical is a british euphemism for uh for gay
00:37:38.920 and whereas in comparison there's an actual lesbian line that's like we're not gay we're angry
00:37:44.600 really yeah that was like a lesbian protest thing and all of that and they're called yeah
00:37:50.960 it's interesting i'm looking at a chart there's an amazing called gay because the word transitioned
00:37:55.380 over centuries from meaning joyful describing a lifestyle outside of conventional social norms
00:37:59.480 okay i'm looking at free or there's an amazing chart by our friend uh steve sailor where he has
00:38:04.820 why lesbians aren't gay and he has a big chart that's contrasting them so for example uh
00:38:10.180 cultural tastes uh gay men arts women lesbian women crafts
00:38:15.960 uh gay men they like uh they like classical they like actually like classical art they like the
00:38:22.520 ancient greeks they like the ancient romans they actually love the you know classical music opera 0.98
00:38:27.380 and all of that whereas lesbian women they resent dead white men they want to overthrow the canon i 0.96
00:38:32.480 feel like lesbians listen to like folk music yeah uh no well it says gay men music lesbian women 0.96
00:38:38.820 lyrics uh gay men unpolitical and hedonistic lesbian women political and very activist
00:38:47.080 yes yes well i mean this boils that down another interesting one this is really interesting 0.65
00:38:53.060 gay men don't claim to speak for all men whereas lesbian women routinely will like speak what
00:38:58.760 women want they're speaking for all women lesbian form yes it is because women even if they're gay
00:39:05.480 think that they have
00:39:07.160 they think that they're like norm enforcers
00:39:09.080 this one is funny 0.72
00:39:10.860 gay men frequently persecuted 0.75
00:39:12.840 lesbian women frequently ignored 0.52
00:39:15.360 so for example 1.00
00:39:16.460 in Nazi Germany they actually did persecute 0.54
00:39:19.040 gay men that you could get sent to a camp for that 0.92
00:39:20.960 lesbianism was legal in Nazi Germany 0.99
00:39:22.920 not even didn't even care 0.66
00:39:24.940 interesting so get this by the 0.97
00:39:26.860 17th and 18th centuries gay developed
00:39:29.160 a secondary risque 0.63
00:39:30.500 connotation implying sexual immorality
00:39:33.240 uninhibited behavior
00:39:35.180 or promiscuity such as gay houses which referred to brothels oh all right and then by the early to
00:39:43.040 mid 20th century the word was used underground within queer subcultures as a discrete way to
00:39:48.660 identify one another without using clinical terms and then during the 60s and the 70s a reclamation
00:39:55.060 of the word ensued activists actively championing the word as a positive self-chosen alternative to
00:40:01.180 medicalized and stigmatized label of homosexual and then in the 90s we started using it as a
00:40:06.740 derogatory term towards our friends. And then there was elementary school. We started calling our
00:40:13.480 buddies gay. I'm just thinking about it. I'm just thinking about it. The kids are going to do all
00:40:17.660 right. I just keep thinking of more comparisons like the fact that you know gays they all go to 1.00
00:40:22.940 the big city they want to be you know a lot of gay guys and then these women went to their lesbian
00:40:28.020 in rural massachusetts to set up their their lesbian bar in a town of 10 000 people pioneer
00:40:33.760 valley this part of massachusetts i can't say i have yeah jack's our resident east coast
00:40:39.000 say again like we're asking about when was your last visit to this part of massachusetts because
00:40:47.080 you're from the east coast have you ever been to western mass where this this you're aware that
00:40:52.000 massachusetts is not next to philadelphia right i mean it seems pretty close by to me it's all
00:40:58.540 it's all close yeah it is all close have you seen arizona on a map it's a very large state
00:41:03.660 largest where you are from yeah go ahead jack so you've never been there okay fine
00:41:08.720 jack what is your general perception no no no i mean why are you guys trying to go
00:41:15.700 i just wonder what it's like one of my interesting what am i interesting sense on that is that people
00:41:23.740 have to remember that when you talk about like domestic abuse for example domestic violence
00:41:27.900 and the perpetration of domestic violence i think we've said this on the program before
00:41:32.060 is that you will actually find higher incidence of domestic violence if you count women because
00:41:39.620 Obviously, men are more forceful when they're violent, but women actually commit domestic violence more, and men just don't usually, like, respond to it or care.
00:41:51.900 They see it as de minimis in many cases. 0.50
00:41:54.080 But the highest instance of domestic violence in any couple, whether it's gay, straight, heterosexual, et cetera, or homosexual, is within lesbians.
00:42:05.320 It's the highest rate of domestic violence.
00:42:07.460 i was looking this up butch i'm looking it up they get back checking you because i was although
00:42:14.820 i wonder how often it's actual domestic violence and how often i mean you see how political they
00:42:19.100 are they're like your emotional tone was highly abusive and unacceptable you yelled at me but
00:42:24.060 like reading this article you can completely see why they think they're so victimized all the time 0.84
00:42:28.620 jack's right data from the center for disease control and prevention indicates that lesbian
00:42:33.660 women report the highest lifetime rates of but they don't call it domestic violence they call
00:42:39.220 it intimate partner violence ipv which is not apparently an std it is not a venereal
00:42:46.080 ipv it's just intimate partner violence gosh i just love that story fun every detail in this
00:42:56.740 story like you just go to any random paragraph and read it and it's just so fun wow you know
00:43:02.280 who has the lowest
00:43:03.540 reported rate? 0.63
00:43:04.540 Gay men. 0.58
00:43:05.760 Yeah. 0.86
00:43:06.300 I mean,
00:43:06.840 I guess it's just like
00:43:07.680 lack of testosterone.
00:43:09.160 I kind of get,
00:43:10.020 what would they be doing?
00:43:12.380 I just feel like
00:43:12.940 our attachment is.
00:43:14.480 Because two men
00:43:15.040 are like,
00:43:15.480 they're in a fight
00:43:16.140 and they're like,
00:43:16.660 all right,
00:43:16.900 fine,
00:43:17.180 I'm just going to leave.
00:43:18.140 Well,
00:43:18.260 they probably fight,
00:43:19.100 they just don't report it.
00:43:20.100 They just walk away.
00:43:21.220 Yeah.
00:43:21.920 Like,
00:43:22.460 I don't know.
00:43:23.240 I feel like I,
00:43:23.940 I go through a lot in life
00:43:25.440 and I,
00:43:25.800 oh man,
00:43:26.220 now I'm going to get
00:43:26.760 in big trouble if I,
00:43:28.020 go for it,
00:43:28.840 Jack.
00:43:29.200 Say it,
00:43:29.500 stop crying.
00:43:29.940 man no because because guys know how to guys go because you can tell all right fine i'm just
00:43:36.220 gonna put it this way because you can tell a guy to calm down and he will right just try that with
00:43:41.920 a woman it's like that m&m song by the way i was trying to i was trying to uh show the team here
00:43:47.380 some of the younger kids like a little tupac yeah i was gonna say you're trying to show tupac
00:43:51.720 but the reason it came up the reason it came up is that because there's this video of tupac
00:43:56.260 speaking of gay where he's there the internet is accusing tupac of being like a gay actor i
00:44:01.100 sent you that video oh yeah yeah yeah and it's like before he was famous and he got out of his
00:44:05.660 like pizza job to go do this interview because he's like i'm an actor and he kept doing like
00:44:10.420 the limp wrist thing it's very interesting anyway so i was like to the team do you guys ever heard
00:44:15.120 of tupac anyway eminem this will be my last rap reference of the week uh when i was in high school
00:44:19.840 i had bad musical taste uh but anyway so eminem was uh he has that one line where he goes what's
00:44:26.100 little fight tomorrow we'll be bros again and i've always thought about that going like that is very
00:44:30.220 dude that is slim shady is a bad musical taste come on now well i just think rap in general is
00:44:35.920 degenerate when it first opened last ditch did fairly well customers fondly remember a raucous 0.97
00:44:41.480 opening at night with a clothed simulation of a lesbian sex act masks in place on the dance floor 0.82
00:44:49.440 no condoms just masks masks everywhere just hey wait wait wait andrew andrew wait can i can i ask 0.77
00:44:55.840 a question about it's a little bit tangent but this thing has been going kind of viral lately
00:45:00.660 where people are saying that like and i think i saw you tweet something about it that uh rap is
00:45:05.900 like not in the top 40 anymore after we defunded usa is that true it's totally true tweeted that
00:45:12.120 i mean i can't i'm not saying causation what is going on with that it's a fun it's a fun
00:45:15.940 correlation correlation but but yeah it was uh john doyle he was like you know what's your favorite
00:45:22.340 reason we're going to win in the midterms and i was like because we defunded usaid and there's no
00:45:27.640 no and now there's no more uh rap songs in the billboard top 40 which is true it's been like
00:45:33.120 a total desert for a number of months i looked it up before i tweeted it well it's a lot of it is
00:45:38.780 to the the artists who are like known for rap have like started going into other genres well
00:45:46.460 like post malone was there and then he got booted but he was like he was like at 41 actually good
00:45:52.560 music yeah but he's popular so uh but there's really just like raps falling off it's not it's
00:45:58.080 not a good art form i mean how many it was never where else are you gonna go with rap it is what
00:46:02.680 it is into the garbage i i think i think rap is starting to fill more of a messaging uh bubble
00:46:11.080 again like with tom mcdonald and like people who are actually trying yeah well yeah it's like a 0.97
00:46:17.020 whole different genre but white rap is infinitely better than than black rap says the white guy but
00:46:22.580 yeah yes i do think it's like generally more thoughtful yes but that's kind of i think that's
00:46:27.780 the point i think you're starting to see the it's starting to become more lyrical and actually like
00:46:32.140 people are trying to actually use it to promote like promote messaging rather than just mumble 0.79
00:46:37.980 garbage like nonsense yeah like gangster rap was all about i'm gonna shoot like the billy corgan
00:46:45.340 did you guys see the billy corgan thing that he said about about rap music like how it got started 0.98
00:46:51.580 no so billy was telling he was he he has this podcast the magnificent magnificent others it's
00:46:59.040 really good and um i'm a huge smashing pumpkins guy in general i've always been a fan of billy
00:47:03.880 and um so he was saying that but actually he was on another podcast where he was he was being
00:47:11.160 interviewed and they asked him about this and i don't know exactly how it came up but he said
00:47:15.160 that he remembered it was like there was this one day in the late 90s where he like he's like we
00:47:20.060 just showed up to mtv and suddenly everything was different suddenly all the standard even like
00:47:26.560 basic stuff like the standards of things that you're allowed to show in videos like when he
00:47:31.680 would do a music video they would say hey you can't show guns or like hey you can't show uh
00:47:36.060 alcohol or like something like that um and they would just allow it all of a sudden for rap and
00:47:41.500 he was like it was a complete changeover you know overnight where rock had been this huge thing for
00:47:48.160 like the early part of the 90s and then at some point it's like they came in and suddenly boom
00:47:53.160 It's like, oh, rap is just going to be the one that gets pushed now.
00:47:57.260 So to your point, here's a guy who was at the highest levels of the music industry who was also kind of saying that he felt like there was a sort of artificial push to give rap this standing that it had.
00:48:11.640 I'm not saying there are any fans, but he was pointing out that it was very clearly pushed really hard by Hollywood, by the entertainment leaders.
00:48:22.020 and that he felt like rock was just kind of pushed away i've heard this a lot but i i think
00:48:27.140 it can be overblown because one thing that really hurt us actually is once they started getting
00:48:32.440 sound scan or whatever to track what was selling it kind of made the top it changed the top 40
00:48:39.560 very aggressively when that started to happen because what was a top 40 hit was much more
00:48:45.080 before they actually could scan it it was like vibes based it was like they're like oh yeah we're
00:48:48.740 totally hearing all about this thing and that could be 100% gamed oh we're pushing this new
00:48:52.860 artist they have a new thing so the churn in the top 40 was much more rapid that's wild and then
00:48:57.440 what if the truth is the opposite as soon as the opposite is true the CIA was pushing all those
00:49:02.280 bands and then as soon as it went to something more like as soon as as soon as it was they could
00:49:07.100 track it actually like with real numbers we're deciding the top 40 one hit started to stick
00:49:12.200 around a lot longer because it turned out a number one hit had a longer lifespan than people thought
00:49:15.960 and then the other thing is we did see a big explosion in rap and hip-hop because i think
00:49:20.500 they kind of tamped down britney spears they tamped down on for lack of a better word ghetto
00:49:25.380 stuff ghetto music and then it turned out they couldn't hide that a lot of people liked that
00:49:29.940 and then i wouldn't be surprised maybe we got the corgan thing of they over corrected of
00:49:33.980 oh this stuff is actually really popular let's all embrace this new thing rock is out rap is in
00:49:40.440 I just exposed that we all have crappy music tastes. 0.99
00:49:43.940 All of you are sinners. 0.99
00:49:46.720 All of you are sinners who listen to rap.
00:49:49.100 So critics and pop culture historians, Jack,
00:49:51.460 point out that MTV's focus at the time
00:49:53.540 actually pivoted heavily toward teen pop acts
00:49:56.760 like Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys
00:49:59.140 or nu metal and pop punk
00:50:00.620 rather than a direct overnight swap to rap.
00:50:03.680 So I saw that.
00:50:04.540 But yeah, he kind of suggests maybe the CIA was involved.
00:50:07.740 So what's interesting about this USAID
00:50:10.180 uh thing and blake and i have kind of joked about it a couple times is that the other theory is that
00:50:14.820 that's why all of these right wingers are getting elected in south america because we defunded usa
00:50:20.380 which actually does probably sound at least somewhat plausible you know on some level because
00:50:27.640 you imagine all these government cutouts and these ngos and these grants that are actually
00:50:31.920 sort of like you know black budget you know cia cutouts i i think that could be like a an actual
00:50:37.840 think i can't prove it but it is a weird correlation well speaking of adults who like toys
00:50:43.360 we should go to our next topic is that in reference to the opening night
00:50:48.260 don't worry they wore masks
00:50:53.840 okay well you guys want to talk about toys just went to mass okay i literally just went to mass
00:51:02.000 all i'm gonna say all i'm gonna say is jack is the one who wanted the topic about toys man
00:51:07.940 it's true he knew dude okay segway kids toys kids toys he loves toys
00:51:15.140 you love adult toys toys rs is about adult toys now jack jack let me tie this these two together
00:51:22.240 for you so the kids that grew up not on rock music and bill corgan they grew up on britney
00:51:30.220 spears backstreet boys and pop punk and rap these kids have grown up and they love toys rs
00:51:38.620 coincidence causation or correlation jack
00:51:42.280 well so it's it's it's a really amazing thing because you know the the next the next topic
00:51:50.900 that we're going to get into is that so toys r us is like coming back and actually i can i can
00:51:57.320 actually explain what's really going on with this it's similar to what you said but not exactly
00:52:02.300 because you're missing a big piece of it it is the return of toys r us but the focus of toys r
00:52:08.560 us now is going to be on adults not kids yeah where's the where's the scary music come on
00:52:16.140 the scream failing that they could play the indian music yeah
00:52:20.620 There you go. 0.98
00:52:22.540 That's what I wanted.
00:52:24.520 All right.
00:52:25.280 We got to get back, though.
00:52:26.500 We got to take ourselves back in time to a kindler, gentler era where we still had a country.
00:52:32.880 We had self-respect.
00:52:33.940 Kids were kids.
00:52:35.280 Adults were adults.
00:52:37.360 Let's play SOT 11.
00:52:40.760 I don't want to grow up.
00:52:42.540 I'm a Toys Ruckin.
00:52:44.060 The guy with a million toys and toys that I can play with.
00:52:46.880 I don't want to grow up.
00:52:48.780 I'm a Toys Ruckin.
00:52:50.060 We got the best for so much less, you really flippin' lip.
00:52:53.700 From bikes to trains to video games, it's the biggest toy store there is.
00:52:59.140 Gee whiz!
00:52:59.980 I don't want to grow up, cause baby if I did, I couldn't be a Toys R Us kid. 1.00
00:53:05.540 More gay, more toys, oh boy, I want to be a Toys R Us kid. 0.98
00:53:10.720 Did he say so gay for toys? 0.99
00:53:13.140 No. 0.98
00:53:13.660 Oh, okay. 1.00
00:53:14.440 I think the word at that point was not, that had been reclaimed by the gays. 0.87
00:53:19.960 no no at that point um but you know what's funny about this whole topic is that line in the song
00:53:26.000 that i forgot like i don't want to grow up because if i did then i couldn't be a toys r us kid except
00:53:31.260 you can now jack you could be a toys r us adult much much like its worst cousin this is bad it's
00:53:38.620 so bad but i can't explain this i can't explain this so so it's it's bad it's sad it's it's awful 0.53
00:53:49.840 But I'll tell you why it's happening.
00:53:52.080 And the answer, of course, as usual, is communism.
00:53:56.540 And so what I really mean is going on is that, unfortunately, it comes down to this idea that we live in a K-shaped economy.
00:54:06.580 And there are some people who are doing really, really well and some people who are really not.
00:54:12.020 And for a lot of the country that are living below the median income line, you've been living in a recession or a silent recession since 2008, since the financial crisis.
00:54:26.620 And this has caused what? Specifically, a lack of homeownership.
00:54:31.100 And Charlie, of course, our dear friend, talked about this so many times, the lack of homeownership, which creates a lack of what? Family formation.
00:54:38.720 So then if you have all these people who aren't starting families, who aren't having kids, then they're realizing internally that, hey, I'm missing all these milestones that I'm supposed to be having in my life.
00:54:51.720 And maybe they see others who do have those things. They think, I want to almost regress to a time where life felt more simple, where life felt, as Andrew said, kinder and gentler, like when I was a Toys R Us kid.
00:55:07.600 and and so they throw themselves into pokemon cards and toys r us and all these other things
00:55:14.500 as collectors the funko pops etc uh you mentioned disney adults that's another one star wars adults 0.81
00:55:20.100 obviously star wars is fake and gay and that that's where this is coming from actually it's
00:55:25.860 because you have uh millennials and elder millennials a number of gen x as well not as 0.51
00:55:31.040 many but you see some genetics do this uh that have just completely like been been checked out
00:55:37.460 of these life milestones and so they they do have disposable income in some cases and that's what
00:55:43.600 they're spending it on rather than kids and houses i think it definitely is people doing that stuff
00:55:50.340 as an alternative to kids but i don't know if it's a if it's a downwardly mobile thing i think
00:55:54.640 that actually might invert it which is we've had a decline of families it's yeah it stinks
00:56:00.160 is we've had a decline of the family enough
00:56:02.080 that now it's just utterly dominant
00:56:04.380 how much spending power,
00:56:07.280 especially leisure spending, consumer spending,
00:56:11.460 that's so heavily linked to people
00:56:14.020 who don't have kids and essentials to spend on.
00:56:16.300 They have a ton of disposable income 0.80
00:56:17.480 and they're going to blow it on stuff.
00:56:19.900 And especially due to the same value decay
00:56:22.240 that's causing them to not marry
00:56:23.660 and have kids in the first place,
00:56:25.320 they have almost these very childlike interests
00:56:29.700 and desires they have never outgrown i love action figures i love and also we have better
00:56:36.560 manufacturing these days as an example and so it's even easier to target these people so let's say
00:56:41.540 let's say you're a kid who liked star wars you're now maybe you're an adult you're a computer
00:56:45.840 programmer you're 40 years old you make a good amount of money maybe a six-figure income maybe
00:56:51.100 even high six figures ton of money to blow they don't even just get you oh i want to buy those
00:56:55.180 kid toys they could go here's an amazing set of all the star wars toys and you can get all the
00:57:02.100 collectible versions of it and they're probably yeah they're more adult they're they're much well
00:57:06.600 they're higher quality than a kid would probably demand yeah you'll get the better painting maybe
00:57:11.060 they'll have more joints and again you can get a whole big set of them that's the thing that
00:57:15.640 stands out to me you can really soak people for lots of product go ahead russ it's a maturity
00:57:21.220 issue no when you grow up you're supposed to graduate like when you write you you grow up
00:57:27.140 riding a bike so you start with training wheels then you graduate to a bike then you get to a
00:57:31.740 certain age and you graduate to a dirt bike and then you graduate and you get to another certain
00:57:36.160 age and you get a motorcycle it's it's about finding toys that is a representative of your
00:57:43.540 age group your your class right i've found myself like grow like even when i was in college like
00:57:51.600 you'd go through walmart right you like hey i'm just gonna check out what these kids what kids
00:57:55.880 have for toys nowadays right and you'd be like you'd see the legos and as a lego kid as somebody
00:58:00.460 who grew up i would still buy legos our neighbor gave us this huge bucket of legos right i would
00:58:07.220 walk through and go man it's sick to be a kid now yeah like you can have legos that are marvel and
00:58:13.260 like as a marvel nerd i'm like yeah i totally marvel nerd i'd be down for a spider-man like
00:58:18.440 yeah i get it but but like now now we have like to his point we're not creating families so now
00:58:26.880 we have all this exposed like disposable income and so now it's like hey you know what i'm gonna
00:58:33.260 buy that lego set that i'm that i couldn't buy back when i was a kid and now but then now that's
00:58:38.660 also now adding to the effect of why toys are now getting more expensive more expensive more
00:58:43.480 expensive it's so perfect like the lego thing is a perfect example where there's legos there's so
00:58:47.820 much more obviously not meant to be played with yeah by five-year-olds who just mash whatever
00:58:52.880 together more instead it's much more oh it's going to be much it's more it's more based on
00:58:57.180 franchises oh that thing you like and then it's a puzzle you put together and you display it you
00:59:01.380 never take it apart you never mess around here's the directions you must yeah i used to take them
00:59:06.620 apart and make my own stuff and that was the best fun my brother and i got a massive like
00:59:12.180 16 gallon bucket full of legos from our uh from our uh neighbor neighbor that went to college
00:59:20.880 my brother and i like every weekend we'd end up dumping it on the floor spend an entire day
00:59:26.360 building bases and houses yeah and then take rocks and chuck at them and destroy it all and
00:59:32.540 then put it all back in the bucket, and then do that again the next weekend.
00:59:35.160 So Blake hit on the key here, though, is that you have dinks, disposable income,
00:59:40.440 even not dinks, but you don't have enough money to buy a home or start a family,
00:59:44.420 but you have more money because you don't have kids, so you have money to blow still.
00:59:48.720 So it's actually like sort of this cut.
00:59:51.380 You get stuck in this in-between zone.
00:59:52.900 So instead of spending money on useful things or on your kids' toys,
00:59:56.380 you're spending money on your own toys,
00:59:58.620 and you still don't have enough to really retire or build wealth.
01:00:01.900 i don't even i don't even know that it's that i think a lot of these i think it's just a straight
01:00:05.300 value decision they think it's actually more fun to buy all of these things and having kids sounds
01:00:10.300 like a drag there's a lot of having kids stinks propaganda out there like they it's not that they
01:00:15.920 can't afford kids or they'll say it's because i can't afford kids but it's an excuse in the sense
01:00:21.660 that even if they made a million dollars it's a cop-out they would need a comical amount i will 1.00
01:00:25.940 tell you that mexicans prove that you can have kids without any money a lot of people you will 1.00
01:00:30.180 never have enough money it's never a convenient time you always you just have to go when people 0.99
01:00:34.280 a lot of people when they say we can't afford kids their definition is i would not believe i
01:00:39.000 can afford kids until i could have a child with absolutely zero sacrifice of any other kind to my
01:00:44.340 entire lifestyle yeah that's just that's the value set they hold and that's a common one
01:00:49.260 and getting more common it's really bad and it's more glaring now because so much more of the world
01:00:55.660 is built to cater to these people so in the past family friendly was the way to was the norm in so
01:01:02.800 many things so now there's way more things that are actually family unfriendly just oh you shouldn't
01:01:10.300 go yeah it's only adults are allowed at this thing this thing is way better if you're an adult so
01:01:14.680 then as a result oh it feels like i'm giving up more stuff if i were to have kids that's also
01:01:20.300 where like something like the like Pokemon cards have blown up yeah it's become huge that's one
01:01:28.160 where it's like on one end I'm like guys like this is a part like the Pokemon revolution or whatever
01:01:34.300 you want to call it is a part of this but I will also give the caveat that the the dads who were
01:01:42.160 Pokemon fans and have kids and have gotten their kids into Pokemon so that they're now doing it
01:01:48.380 with their kid that's where i think and that's that's the right that's the point of toys it's
01:01:55.720 for parents to how to to play with their kid or and to play there and we should work jack in here
01:02:02.240 because i know he was really passionate about this topic he's unfortunately jack is at a mass
01:02:06.620 and he's you know the feed is delayed so jack jump in here but you know another thing occurs to me
01:02:11.800 is when we were kids remember like golden girls and stuff they actually let their hair be in a bob
01:02:17.240 it was like they they let themselves look old but as the years have gone by like older people
01:02:22.640 want to stay young yeah and i think that same that same spirit is affecting like us into our
01:02:28.400 adulthood where we want to sort of not grow up and not you know just assume the mantle of adulthood
01:02:33.900 i don't know that that that strikes me as something that might be playing into this jack
01:02:37.820 your thoughts man no that's that's such a good uh topic to ping off of as well and and i mean
01:02:47.180 I couldn't agree more. It's like we can't allow ourselves to be older anymore. It's like we don't
01:02:55.800 want to grow up. Nobody wants to grow up. Nobody wants to, because it's also taking off the
01:03:00.040 responsibility. The thing that I do want to bring it back to, though, and I'm going to keep bringing
01:03:03.280 it back to, is the economy and is the fact that, look, I mean, guys, we know the midterms are going
01:03:10.560 to be what they are in a couple of weeks here. And we know what the headwinds are. And so much
01:03:15.460 of this is economically driven. And I think so much of what's happening in culture is also
01:03:20.520 downstream of the economy. And it's downstream of these tough economic times that we find
01:03:26.960 ourselves in. In the same way, by the way, that so much of the loss of morality and God in the
01:03:33.880 public square in the 1960s was because there was so much of an abundance of the economy where
01:03:40.700 people were sort of like like like they had it too well they didn't feel any of those pressures at 0.51
01:03:45.720 all and so suddenly it was like hey go do whatever you want go have sex with whoever you want go
01:03:51.120 smoke whatever you want you know and it's it it just became this this huge you basically this
01:03:57.460 this like the free love movement of the 1960s huge cultural revolution and this what you know
01:04:02.000 come back to fulton sheen that's what he was warning about and the idea then that you would
01:04:07.460 have these, these adolescents who, what are they called perpetual adolescents, right? Where, you
01:04:12.840 know, you have kids having kids and then never actually, you know, this is where you get to the
01:04:18.620 problems of, you know, you hear these like parents doing free range kids, or I let my kids parent
01:04:24.120 themselves and I don't tell them to not, uh, you know, pick up after themselves and I let them do
01:04:29.640 what they want and I'm not going to send them to school and all this. And it's, this is what
01:04:33.440 happens when you have a society without standards and yes that means standards for ourselves
01:04:39.560 individually as well as when we get older and and all the rest of it yeah other things that i love
01:04:45.880 enjoying with my kids that i enjoyed when i was a kid a hundred percent there's no question about
01:04:50.640 it we're actually watching uh animaniacs right now it's like my kids love it they love watching
01:04:55.560 animaniacs we like watching scooby-doo um you know we just find stuff that we liked from when
01:05:01.520 We were younger. That's great. My son is I'll give him a shout out here.
01:05:05.800 He's working on doing the entire Yakko's Nations of the World song for his upcoming school talent show at at grade three.
01:05:15.060 He currently has the entire song memorized. There's just a couple like country pronunciations we're working on.
01:05:22.140 And so it's just a great thing. And it goes to show you how good some of those things used to be.
01:05:27.440 But the problem is, is that when you get older, you should want to to have those things.
01:05:34.060 You should want to get married. You should want to have kids. You should want to own a home and all of this.
01:05:38.100 And the problem, I think, though, is that these people deep down actually do want those things as well.
01:05:45.280 And either one, they're having trouble getting them or number two, they're getting distracted by so many other glittering things out there.
01:05:53.120 Kind of reminds me of that one story we covered where the 40-year-old women were throwing themselves these, like, lavish weddings for themselves.
01:06:01.120 Yeah.
01:06:01.780 It's like, yes.
01:06:02.960 Oh, gosh.
01:06:03.660 Yes.
01:06:04.220 Yes.
01:06:04.920 Yes.
01:06:06.040 It's like they deep down want them, but they want them on their terms.
01:06:09.900 And if they can't have them, then, you know, like, it's, you know, you get what I'm saying?
01:06:13.740 It's almost like they're trying to reclaim something or without the responsibility.
01:06:21.000 I don't know.
01:06:21.440 There's something there.
01:06:22.220 but it's basically kind of what we're getting around this prolonged adolescence this arrested
01:06:26.360 development and well and it also doesn't help that and economy have a broken system when it 0.99
01:06:32.140 comes to the family unit right now yeah because we've got more single moms we've got more you 0.99
01:06:38.280 know broken families and so that's not helping either um yeah i agree yeah should we hit paramount 0.99
01:06:45.520 deal yeah if you want we can do it real quick real quick we're getting tight on time here yeah
01:06:49.700 of course we are we of course we are but we can hit it because uh paramount of course is buying
01:06:53.600 everything at wb and it's a gigantic deal but it's gotten so big that they are apparently trying to
01:06:59.680 recruit elon musk as a potential co-investor in the spy out which is amazing which would be amazing
01:07:06.360 on a few ways you wouldn't have full control over it but remember this is going to give them control
01:07:11.020 of her among other things cnn jake tappa and they've done a lot of articles hostile to elon
01:07:18.400 yeah that would be really fascinating they would definitely have some there would be
01:07:23.440 listen you know what's crazy is that these people are already threatening to leave
01:07:26.480 oh no yeah i know what's it what's the gal that goes with scott galloway i don't know i don't
01:07:31.740 watch cnn no no my license plate i have to stick by a principle here hold on what is your license 0.97
01:07:36.700 My license plate is CNN sucks. 0.98
01:07:38.620 Did you not know that? 0.99
01:07:39.420 No, I've never seen you drive a car.
01:07:41.020 Oh, that's true.
01:07:41.760 I walk across, yes.
01:07:42.560 Kara Swisher. 0.99
01:07:43.260 For those who do not know, my license plate is literally CNN sucks. 0.98
01:07:45.780 I've literally never seen you drive a car once. 1.00
01:07:48.000 Yeah, he has CNN sucks. 0.98
01:07:49.340 It's great. 0.99
01:07:49.820 I got it in Virginia, and I got it in Arizona again.
01:07:51.480 Thank you, Oliver Darcy.
01:07:53.000 Up yours.
01:07:54.040 It actually, believe it or not, I had that license plate before the CNN docs.
01:07:57.940 But then it just became even better.
01:07:59.100 It was well chosen.
01:08:00.480 Maybe that's why he did it.
01:08:01.240 That's perfect. 0.96
01:08:01.620 Yeah, Kara Swisher's already saying she's going to quit from CNN. 0.83
01:08:06.460 think she's a contributor uh but anyway she's gonna quit if uh if this merger goes wait yeah
01:08:14.620 or no i'm wait wait no actually correction this is more of a rust thing russ i just realized
01:08:19.580 if if elon gets control of paramount that means he gets control of wb and if he gets control of wb
01:08:28.700 we can fire james gun fire james gun because he's he has he is destroying the dc brand all right
01:08:39.260 kaboos i'm in currently good he is no no no bad currently he has been destroying um green lantern 0.58
01:08:48.140 good to the point that it's like green lantern oh i like green lantern is a great character it's all
01:08:54.380 of it all of it no it's all of it but currently green lantern currently man all of it all of it
01:09:00.580 all of it but currently he is destroying green lantern i don't know the dc looney tunes no even
01:09:06.040 looney tunes the last looney tunes movie was awful the looney tunes movie was so bad well also the
01:09:13.560 um looney tunes had a movie yeah they also did a space jam even the space jam 2 movie with lebron
01:09:18.980 sucked space jam was awful all right no so so for folks who don't know that that when when oh go
01:09:26.080 ahead i was gonna call in caboose because i know he's got a thought here caboose what are is this
01:09:31.060 is this the real reason that elon needs to come in do we have any indication that elon doesn't
01:09:35.440 like james gun um personally i don't think elon needs to step in i think either way just uh
01:09:42.960 warner brothers paramount the deal needs to happen uh you got a lot of people's jobs on the line
01:09:48.420 which Mark Ruffalo is trying to get a bunch of people to lose their jobs
01:09:53.640 for the sake of pandering to the left.
01:09:55.520 True.
01:09:57.040 What's the backstory there?
01:09:58.120 I think in terms of James Gunn, he's going to lose his job either way.
01:10:01.460 The dude's not making money for them.
01:10:02.640 Yeah, he's hemorrhaging money right now.
01:10:04.780 But will he be catapulted into a volcano, perhaps?
01:10:09.700 No, but we could try to work something else.
01:10:13.660 What I will say, Elon Musk getting a big personal stake in WB
01:10:17.740 would excite me in that I think it's an opportunity for us.
01:10:24.760 I feel like so much reason we don't get good content
01:10:27.360 is we kind of just need a billionaire who cares enough about movies.
01:10:30.040 He's just going to grok it all, though.
01:10:31.240 Yeah, he might.
01:10:31.920 That's the problem.
01:10:32.560 These guys will be like, let's make an AI movie.
01:10:34.640 It'll make an AI Odyssey he said he was going to make.
01:10:36.860 Terrible idea.
01:10:37.460 But like, I just kind of wish, you think a movie's expensive to make,
01:10:42.080 but when you're at these
01:10:43.160 he's worth a trillion dollars
01:10:44.440 they're like not that expensive to make
01:10:46.300 he could trivially allocate
01:10:48.620 a 500 million dollars a year
01:10:51.600 to make like one
01:10:53.060 or like make five
01:10:54.540 really awesome
01:10:55.660 cool
01:10:56.540 historical movies
01:10:57.940 dramatic ones
01:10:58.780 like new adaptations of properties
01:11:00.440 that everyone has said would get it
01:11:01.500 and you give him 100 million dollars
01:11:03.240 such that
01:11:03.740 you'll release it
01:11:04.760 and if it makes money
01:11:06.200 that's great
01:11:06.840 but it at least keeps it
01:11:07.940 so it will not be a total bomb
01:11:09.140 he just needs to bankroll Mel Gibson
01:11:11.040 at this point
01:11:11.960 is what he needs to do um so you know what's interesting to me about this deal though okay
01:11:16.520 jack go ahead go ahead jack can i no i just want to tell no by the way the reason i'm saying this
01:11:21.560 again is because folks don't know the backstory that james gunn after he had been the the creator
01:11:26.600 of uh not creator but like the guy who did the movie of guardians of the galaxy i was doing a
01:11:31.960 bunch of other stuff for uh for disney on the marvel side that in 2018 he was fired by disney
01:11:39.280 Um, number one, because of going after, uh, Trump supporters, but then number two, me and Mike Cernovich dug up all of James Gunn's old tweets where he was making horrific jokes, quote unquote jokes about pedophilia, about child rape, about, um, things that would happen on his sets.
01:12:02.420 And so it was actually, yeah, it was like me and Cernovich just dug up his old blog and all these tweets.
01:12:09.520 And that's why he got fired in the first line.
01:12:11.460 In fact, I just looked it up in Grok, and it says right here,
01:12:14.620 the posts were unearthed and amplified by conservative commentators and outlets such as Mike Cernovich and Jack Posobiec
01:12:19.940 after gone a vocal critic of then-President Trump engaged in political arguments with them on Twitter.
01:12:27.980 That's fun.
01:12:28.640 so this that's that's one interesting aspect of this but the so you got the cnn aspect you got
01:12:35.260 i guess dc but what's also interesting is that they're trying to move paramount out of los
01:12:43.140 angeles it's also true which which basically is like the death knell for it's the beginning of
01:12:48.460 the end the beginning of the end because they're moving a bunch of these uh projects are already
01:12:53.280 moving from la to like atlanta or nashville it's crazy i mean this could be the great exodus the
01:13:01.020 beginning of the great exodus of the studio system out of la do you think that because paramount is
01:13:07.240 moving out of la it makes it more um tantalizing to musk to try to to work out something i would
01:13:19.320 say so okay yeah like american idol is moving its production out of los angeles after 25 years
01:13:25.020 relocating to atlantic georgia the mass singer moved its production from los angeles to new jersey
01:13:30.720 earlier this year paramount david ellison's paramount recently floated plans to move
01:13:35.460 operations out of california emitted antitrust battle with bonta so which is the attorney
01:13:41.460 general of california so bonta is trying to get in there block this deal but it's backfiring on
01:13:46.320 so wait you used to work in hollywood show business what have you what does it substantively
01:13:52.740 mean if a studio is just going to move all the way across the country because like the studio
01:13:57.000 doesn't move with it or do it does it would all these people move would we get yeah i mean there's
01:14:02.000 there's corporate offices certainly i mean it's it's interesting to see what would happen if it
01:14:06.480 was like you know you got accounting you've got all that like boring stuff that every corporation
01:14:11.700 has right um but really the question is the decision makers right the the guys that are
01:14:17.980 green lighting deals would that move out of la because then you still have there's a whole
01:14:22.400 ecosystem that's there right you've got the agents and they can just go down the road like
01:14:27.040 that all has to the actor you can you can have meetings with actors with directors that's that's
01:14:31.720 why it's all in la is because while you're developing projects you're just constantly
01:14:36.820 meeting with all these different players to see what can happen but you got zoom now you got
01:14:41.800 everybody's got airplanes you know uh if you really need to meet face to face so i i don't
01:14:46.800 know that there's it's the question is production physical production deal making is one thing
01:14:51.500 physical production has moved out of la a long time ago yeah i was gonna say yeah it does turn
01:14:56.000 into a giant hub for that yeah it's so but you still had the studios right so they're still
01:15:01.280 filming things like american idol the voice uh survivor all these things have big production
01:15:07.640 facilities where you go to the lot and i've been to them you know where you go into the lot
01:15:10.800 and they have a big the studio is just basically a big old open you know looks like an airplane
01:15:16.300 carrier it's huge um and then you film it there and then you've got the union guys and you got
01:15:20.940 all this but the prop the problem is that the prices have you know shot up over the years
01:15:25.380 extremely high and then you've got competition in places like atlanta that are building massive
01:15:29.500 studios venues right so you have the space it's probably cheaper and then they give you these tax
01:15:34.560 credits so i don't really know what the benefit is of having physical production in la anymore
01:15:39.540 the reason that physical production was in los angeles to begin with was that it had this is
01:15:46.260 actually a true story when when hollywood was starting out they had the ability to shoot in
01:15:50.940 mountains desert uh tropical looking scenery beaches you had all the the different like looks
01:15:57.800 and now you can do all of that with a green screen yeah you can do exactly but that's why go outside
01:16:01.880 and the other reason that it that it uh started in la is because of the weather actually because
01:16:07.040 they they so much of it was outside they had to be able to have predictable weather and predictable
01:16:11.020 rain patterns yeah so that was a big thing just for production like just keeping cameras dry and
01:16:15.960 film dry and things like that but all of this stuff has gradually become less important so i
01:16:20.600 don't really know what the point of it you know my favorite reason though that it went to california
01:16:23.800 besides all that is that edison thomas uh edison's motion picture he had the patent on the motion
01:16:30.280 picture camera and they were huge jerks about enforcing the patent on it and they thought
01:16:35.500 this is when you had to get places by train they there's like it was hard for his agents to enforce
01:16:41.840 his patent way out in california so they moved because he was in new jersey of course menlo park
01:16:46.640 and they just moved all the way across the country where it was difficult for the patent guys to get
01:16:51.500 them but then what happened was then you got into the studio system where an actor and a director
01:16:56.740 and screenwriters would all sign deals with the studios right so you had that's and they still
01:17:01.740 kind of have that it's called the first look deal where if you come up with a project you have to
01:17:05.760 first look again what the studios do is they essentially give you a retainer so you're you're
01:17:11.000 funding your you know people development and all this stuff on an ongoing basis and they get the
01:17:15.680 first right to buy your ideas your your ip but back in those days if you were an actor that signed
01:17:21.040 with warner brothers or paramount then you had to basically you could only act in paramount's
01:17:26.140 pictures you could only act in warner brothers pictures so again you had to be present in los
01:17:30.700 angeles because all of it was filming all the time in la and you just had to be there that's
01:17:35.240 why hollywood became such a magnet and such a center of gravity for the whole industry so
01:17:41.280 part of this too american idol has just announced that it's leaving la american idol still exists
01:17:46.880 yes yes yes but apparently singer the mass singer i just read this yeah apparently the tv production
01:17:52.300 activity in la region is that was down 27 in the second quarter compared to the last it's not just
01:17:58.700 that it's commercials all this stuff because remember the first thing that sucked all the
01:18:02.520 business out of la was vancouver oh connect canada yeah and that was like a quick plane flight up the
01:18:09.040 coast right so atlanta's a little farther new york had some production of course but that was the
01:18:13.660 first thing then atlanta came on board i remember a big yeah before atlanta i remember like every
01:18:17.400 movie in the early 2000s they would use toronto as this discount new york so you have all these
01:18:22.240 action scenes in new york and people would be like that is clearly toronto they would use
01:18:25.860 originally they were using downtown la as the discount like blake blake blake dark knight used
01:18:30.380 detroit like all three blocks i think they used chicago oh okay chicago i thought dark dark night
01:18:36.800 i thought dark they had some of pittsburgh too actually no blake i was gonna say this last season 0.56
01:18:40.740 of um the one show even though the guy is a massive libtard that the one show that that we
01:18:46.500 will still watch is reacher and uh so this last season was set in philadelphia and i was telling 0.83
01:18:53.980 um i was telling russ about it that it's it's set in philly but it's very obviously toronto
01:18:59.700 and so they split between like oh now we're in new york or excuse me now we're in washington now
01:19:05.140 we're in baltimore now we're back in philly all throughout the season but it's very obviously the
01:19:08.820 same city over and over and they make some like really ridiculous mistakes like they refer to the
01:19:15.040 um the train station in philadelphia as um as penn station even though the philly train station is
01:19:21.220 30th street station penn station is new york but it's like very clearly just toronto they just
01:19:26.400 kind of like change the logo that's on the police car or whatever it's hilarious um well that's been
01:19:32.220 happening for years but i've always keep production expenses i've always wondered because of texas's
01:19:37.040 large like private land like it's a lot of private land why do you think that texas hasn't turned
01:19:45.700 into kind of a production well they tried i mean there was a bunch of states that offered 0.94
01:19:51.300 new mexico has them what's that too many h1bs well the other thing about texas is it just doesn't
01:20:01.560 have a lot of like land variability actually you've got like gotcha forest flat forest you 0.97
01:20:06.240 got flat desert well yeah what made california so good is literally you get that radical change
01:20:11.340 in climate you can drive two hours and you go from the coast to yosemite true yeah well and
01:20:17.060 and you could have snow you could have desert you could have mountains you could have joshua tree
01:20:21.640 you know true it just has everything in california but the point is none of that really matters but
01:20:26.340 there was a bunch of states that did tax incentives like new mexico had a tax incentive i think texas
01:20:30.460 had a tax incentive um but there was a bunch of like random ones too um it just what happened
01:20:37.020 with atlanta is it just it they built like even the um the guys that will so for where we filmed
01:20:44.180 our um our super bowl our halftime show jack and i were there was at the was at those uh big huge
01:20:50.080 facilities out there that's where superman was done chick-fil-a guys built a big studio system
01:20:54.520 out there so all of a sudden there was infrastructure and then there and then once
01:20:57.800 you kind of gather all those people and you have a you have a um like a tipping point almost where
01:21:03.460 there's enough industry draw there people just like move there and then you got then you got
01:21:06.980 skilled you know artisans and craftsmen and and filmmakers what's interesting though is about that
01:21:13.060 is that georgia is now blue so that's at least quasi blue wah wah thanks that's what happens
01:21:18.300 this happens a lot happens a lot texas might do that they'll just do it oh oh probably well
01:21:24.180 I don't think it's going to be tech that turns
01:21:26.180 Texas blue. Or Indians. 1.00
01:21:28.540 People always want to blame the Indians. Guys,
01:21:30.160 there's a very obvious reason Texas has become a
01:21:32.180 blue state. It's because it is now a plurality
01:21:34.340 Mexican state. That's what I just said.
01:21:36.260 I said Mexican. 1.00
01:21:40.360 Well, that's a fun place 1.00
01:21:42.400 to... Why do we have Prince Caspian?
01:21:44.440 Is that Warner Brothers? Chronicles of Narnia?
01:21:47.200 Anyways, alright.
01:21:48.440 That wraps us up. That's Netflix.
01:21:50.360 Yeah, that was B-roll. Totally wrong, studio.
01:21:52.260 Totally wrong, guys.
01:21:53.800 Jack, why don't you take us home?
01:21:55.820 And, you know, one last word to the Blessed Sheen.
01:22:02.460 Yeah, guys, check him out.
01:22:04.500 You know, Fulton Sheen has great stuff out there.
01:22:06.700 You can go and find his reels all over the place, super viral, and dig deeper.
01:22:12.320 Dig deeper to find out what he was all about and use this as a way to further your relationship with the Lord.
01:22:18.540 Use its way to further your relationships in reality and further your relationships with one another and your relationship, of course, with God.
01:22:26.740 And as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.
01:22:32.800 Thought crime is death.