THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 15 — Cancel All Debates？ Shoot Looters？ Boycott the NFL？
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On this week's edition of Thought Crime, the boys discuss the aftermath of the Republican Debates, the Philadelphia RNC debate, and a question about whether or not looters should be shot in the streets of the city.
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ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to another week's edition of thought crime on this week
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myself charlie kirk and the boys get into the aftermath of the republican debate what a absolute
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clown show are they going to continue to hold these or can we just get over with it at this
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point next we have a question about the philadelphia riots and we get into a debate about
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whether or not looters should be shot is it legal is it morable or does it help with civilization
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and finally taylor swift is taylor swift a psyop i say yes all this and more on this week's edition
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ladies and gentlemen get ready to commit thought crimes from the age of big brother
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if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically targets the communications of
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everyone they're collecting your communications
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welcome to this edition of thought crime is it thought crimes or thought crime it's whatever
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you want it to crime it's singular it's actually singular it's so in all of the whole thing is one
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massive like well it's it's 1984 we could change it and say it's always been right we've always
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eurasia has always been at war with oceana exactly oceana has always been at war with eurasia jack
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hello so we commit thought crimes on the thought crime podcast so this is the point so in this sense
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this is using crime in its plural term so crime as the concept so the concept is thought crime
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therefore the title even though it does not have the s it is all encompassing of the concept of thought
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crime i will say i will say there is a growing loyal audience to this program i get so many messages
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of people right tyler i get so many people that talk to me about that they come up to me and
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they they always they're like i just love thought crimes oh it's thought crime andrew's really blowing
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me up it's like welcome back fan favorite 10 out of 10 everyone loves blake we like we have a growing
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disloyal audience to the show too i bet oh no they there are some people that really send me a lot
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of messages they won't even send you all of the line the the amount of blake feedback is really
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something get the bald man off i don't like him or why do you have blake on your show you can never
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have disagreement only uniformity on the thought crime show exactly all right everyone must agree
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so speaking about everybody that agrees uh let's talk about the rnc debate which really wasn't much
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of a debate so tyler i want you to start with this one because you kind of know how the debates are
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structured but first tyler you have to try to make sense of exactly what is being said here let me
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try to find this here boy ryan we have more cuts than i've ever seen before okay let's go to one
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no the best one is which is the best there's this really good one okay yeah 144
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these these are good people who are tainted by a broken system and it's not the fault of anybody
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who's involved some of us are tainted excuse me excuse me thank you for speaking while i'm interrupting
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literally what tyler what was this all about i don't even know because i didn't watch
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yeah i mean i watched clips i didn't either blake did you watch oh no i was i was the only one that
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watch look one of us has to take a shot for the team you know i'm saying and it might as well be
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posto leave it to the polack to pick up the shift right it was a very it was a very christ-like
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sacrifice i gotta tell you i mean this was like i i almost the psychic violence that i had to go
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through just the absolute sheer psychic torture and keep in mind like i did a term at guantanamo bay
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all right i did one tour down there this was actually as a prisoner or as a guard jack jack
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but it was sort of a 50 50 kind of split thing 50 50 is you guard yourself down there jack do we show
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i do show do they show rnc debate clips at at guantanamo bay like to the prisoners i torment
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them i still know some guys that are right i still know some guys down in the interrogation cell there
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um so what i've actually been doing all night is taking the clips from last night's debate and
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sending them down but then of course the response that i got back was whoa jack wait we're trying to
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get the intel out we're not trying to kill these guys come on do they call it haley boarding
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they're kids haley boarding yeah we're gonna be haley boarding nikki boarding we're gonna be we're
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gonna be nikki boarding uh we're gonna be ron boarding now ron to say this of course well familiar
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with that as a as a former uh guantanamo water boarder himself so so jack you watched the whole
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thing you know hard to navigate i mean every minute man was there any takeaway was there any sort of
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philosophical or political you know breakthrough or disagreement and why on earth within 10 seconds
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do we have someone speak in spanish jack explain all of that so yeah charlie honestly the univision part
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i still am am just flabbergasted about um they're they're opening this whole thing in spanish i don't
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know why there's a univision host there especially when all she did was spread anti-american hate like
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say things that gun violence is unique to the united states i'm sorry you're from mexico have you seen
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tijuana like there's entire swaths of that country that are controlled by the cartels such a good point and
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you're gonna tell us that gun violence by the way there unfortunately there was a mass shooting today
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in the netherlands right in rotherham at some uh university hospital so so but at the same time
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why is a univision uh host there anyway why are we talking about trans issues why are we talking about
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gun control they're playing ronald reagan amnesty clip saying we need to be more like reagan i'm very
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confused about how this entire debate was put together there was a question about survivor like who are you
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gonna vote off the island herder i'm sorry that was fitting we are we are turning into a third world
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nation and these guys are up there at one point they're arguing about curtains um they're acting
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though honestly charlie like it's the 1980s and i tweeted at one point that the greatest trick the
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republican party ever pulled was to just repeat the same 10 ronald reagan lines over and over and act
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like nothing has changed yeah so so tyler may you you know this better than anybody what's going on
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here i mean the rnc has completely screwed up this debate format so that uh and to revisit all this
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the rnc had a huge opportunity because we pulled out the republican party pulled out of the leftist
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controlled c3 that managed debates remember this there's a commission right there's a commission
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i thought that was only for the general no it's for presidential debates that right handle
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everything and so the rnc this is the first time the rnc is hosting all this stuff and i have some
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insider information here they don't have a lot of debates planned out ahead because these two these
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first two have been such an absolute disaster they're they're really struggling with getting
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that's breaking news that that's that's breaking so that's insider they're nobody like they're not
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doing a great job at this and they're struggling because they don't have a good product if this
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is a good product right which is what people want which is again that populist versus you know nobody
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wants to watch a bunch of you know uh insider technocrats argue and debate this entire time and
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that's ultimately like the best case scenario vivek is like a technocrat trying to like come off the
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pedestal right like so like everybody else on that stage is a technocrat so we have a terrible
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product that exists a huge opportunity and they're not they're not taking it how are you going to win
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the presidency when you have a republican national committee a republican party that can't even put
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together debates how are you going to go out and chase down the 100 million ballots that we need to be
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identifying how are you gonna do it you're just not it's not gonna happen so what you're touching on
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is interesting there's actually a unique opportunity to have a robust conversation blake of what does the
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republican party stand for right so trump doesn't show up okay fine there still would be a pretty
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fruitful window to say okay like what do we stand on war like let's let's re-challenge all these tired
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dogmas right but we're not getting that that's what i think is really irritating those of us that i don't
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know have been awake and paying attention the last seven years that's really why the hosting you know some of the
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hosting decisions are so painful like yeah having this universe vision person come because you're
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you're pandering to the i hate to use the term like the mainstream media but what you're going to do is
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you're surrendering to them the ability to set the narrative and what they're going to want to do is
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they even if they're like trying to be fair very often they're going to essentially have the progressive
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frame on things and so yeah they're going to ask you about amnesty where they're like well you know
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reagan did amnesty when we had one tenth as many illegals and when we hadn't said it was his
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biggest mistake yeah and also you know we hadn't been scammed by it yet like now we know oh when
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you do amnesty it's a scam and they just that's like doing lockdowns now after we've learned you
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know what i mean it's so if you're going to do this sort of internal party debate you just need you
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just need to actually have a more partisan republican actor like that's why having like tucker carlson
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hosted gop debate would be a great idea because he's kind of good at those uh you know let's hash out
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the ideological split within the party you don't necessarily need to have you know for a party
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debate you don't necessarily need to have this neutral journalist doing uh doing the questioning
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and it's not actually that interesting but this is why your your sponsors of the debate matter so
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much are you ever going to criticize ronald reagan in the ronald reagan presidential library i
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don't know the ronald reagan presidential library does all the time you want they they go the
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yeah there's a lot there they're they're kind of conservative but are you ever going to have like
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an honest primary base debate where you're criticizing ron reagan this is why it's stupid
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like you listen to the base you do things at the base you get the right you know analysts to to come
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in and ask the questions and you have the right media partners and fox by the way which is your best
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opportunity it's only downhill from here like the the rnc is going to get real desperate and it's going to
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be nbc and cbs news and a bunch of other really crappy uh idiotic right to the left of the reagan
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library which is already way too far to the left and we're never going to have a conversation about
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what voters actually are interested in so they're just not going to tune in so here's an example
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okay um this is just one of many and quite honestly you know we have all been agreement that
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de santis is not good at this running for president thing but but he's just not maybe campaigning
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period but he's actually running for anything actually jack hold on i i knew jack would just
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if we could have santis jack has to just throw a dart okay but he's actually excellent on this
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education black history stuff he's i think he's handled it terrific okay but listen to this play cut 141
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florida's new black history curriculum says quote slaves develop skills which in some instances
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could be applied for their personal benefit you have said slaves develop skills in spite of slavery
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not because of it but many are still hurt for the sentence of slaves this is personal what is your
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message to them so first of all that's a hoax that was perpetrated by kamala harris
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we are not going to be doing that second of all that was written by descendants of slaves these are
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great black history scholars so we need to stop playing these games i mean what is this what is
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this woman's name great answer ilia calderon this why in a republican debate i'm gonna stand up for
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ron de santis does ron de santis have to endure that from a woman who can barely speak english like
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honestly like it's an aoc lookalike who's asking like an msnbc type talking point that does no good for
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us to understand where the republican party is jack yeah look charlie a couple of weeks ago
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we on this show were i think one of the only shows in conservative media that came out in support of
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ron de santis on this textbook situation no that's right that's a bunch of people that were running
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around attacking them were were just wrong and the textbooks were i mean de santis distanced himself
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initially from the textbooks uh saying that he wasn't involved in the decision but i i say look
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it's very clear what was being said right it is a lie that they were saying i'm just gonna i'll i'll
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clean it up for him even even today right they didn't say that slavery was beneficial it said that
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people used things they had known from slavery to go into business for themselves that's all it said
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it wasn't saying anything about slavery being good it was just talking about the actual history of the
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country and what is this person's name like i mean yeah people people are still hurt no they're not
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you think that like black america is like wringing their hands in their living room like oh yeah i'm
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really hurt over a line in a textbook for an eighth grader in florida and people are still hurt
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and they're crying covering the santis they're crying like shut up they call their abuela and they
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shed them in the interior hey charlie my name is alilia caldero they're charlie what's the number
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one what's the number one condiment in america salsa why because people like saying salsa
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because people like to say because people like to say salsa you can put salsa on so much stuff get
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get that clip ryan it is legendary okay here is more i don't want to is she technically a foreigner i
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think she's an american so i want to be i want to be truthful but she certainly acts like a foreigner
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play cut 174 the department of homeland security warns that violence against lgbtq plus people is on
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the rise and intensifying according to a recent study members of that community are nine times more
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likely to be victims of violence hate crimes as president how would you protect this community
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from violent attacks and discrimination am i watching like rachel maddow with like a heavy
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south american accent i mean this is supposed to be a republic tyler this should make people repulsed
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it doesn't have to be this way if you want that then go on cnn right you oh the number one attack is
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attacks against lgbtq people like first of all no it's not second of all like what kind of framing is
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this the number the number one attack right now and again i i grew up here in arizona you know i i
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understand i don't speak fluent spanish i have many members of my family who do but the number i have
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many friends who are first and second third generation you know mexican immigrants who this is the number
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one this is the number one thing right the biggest attack on on their families right now is the attack
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on their family's small business they all run small businesses it whatever varying types stores
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uh service industry businesses they all run their own businesses the their life has been almost utterly
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destroyed in the past three years utterly that's it and all they talk about on univision and telemundo
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is the lgbtq like i ask a single mexican business owner here in arizona we can walk down the street
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go to a taco truck and say hey is it how are lgbtq issues affecting your taco truck business
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it's not or you're cleaning los lgbt's or your landscaping business or whatever your small
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business your store whatever it is how does that impact you they're like you'll no say i don't i
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don't i don't know what you're talking about bro let's just i remember when i live more thought
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crime go ahead i just remember in dc i lived uh i lived near a burger king r.i.p i guess we're
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boycotting burger king now poison king i i did get food poisoning the one time i went there but
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it had it has it had a television at it and it was in a neighborhood that was mostly hispanic and i
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remember a big moment was i think 2019 or 2020 they had the tvs there and the only guys who were
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there kind of in the evening were these like working class hispanic guys who just got off their jobs
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and they got the management to change the television channel from fox uh from cnn to fox news because
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they wanted to watch tucker carlson but he came on at 7 a.m hey i say put on the tucker man hey i say
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i want to see him oh i like i like what tucker i like what those guys say hey hey that's good
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stuff you can't put you can't put salsa on an impossible burger okay that's like no no this is
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any place that serves an impossible burger they should be deported immediately hispanics watching
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tucker there should be a country we send these people back to like impossible land only thing left
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at night again heavily hispanic grocery store in dc only thing left during covid when they cleaned it
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all out was the impossible burgers and the turkey burgers i think that's great but by the by the way
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this this woman elia calderon someone should ask like hey what percentage of your people that watch
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univision think men can give birth like i mean it's lgbt issues no hispanics are actually vehemently
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against the radical gay agenda we should have a she's colombian we should have a debate but she's a
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colombian born i don't i don't know where she was raised yeah but she's colombian so this is this
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is the point guys we got to stop listening and i know this is really hard to hear we have we have some
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really great people on our team at turning point action uh actually diana who's awesome she's cuban
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she's terrific she's wonderful but like the the number one group that we have to speak to we have
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to connect with right now in america is the mexican american community this is like all that matters
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and this is like where like there's the left the far left you have these crazy radical leftists that
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are born in south america and central america and you have these crazy right wing right you're not
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changing their minds you know who you're changing the minds of all the people who are like wait the
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muscular class the ordinary ordinary class which are mexican americans who have been here for three
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or four generations that are like i have a connection or two or one right here in arizona we have a lot
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of that but that all they care about is their small business they have a mexican heritage we all we
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eat mexican food i got i'm a mex i can't survive without mexican food right nobody's talking about
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mexican food any of these today nobody's the closest we ever got the best taco salad the top
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best taco bowls are made at trump tower we need to talk about that and that's all he talked about
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for a week was the taco salad that's not even real mexican food like like we we should be talking about
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who like real stuff that mexican americans and mexicans care all right more from card card
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play cut 175 colombian univision poll found that mass shootings and gun safety are one of the most
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important issue for latino voters mental health concerns are not unique to the united states but
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gun violence is what is your specific plan to curb gun violence wait wait so you brought up the point
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of mexico that's the one that brought up earlier yeah but cartels you talk about this she's from
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colombia you want to talk about cartels you think cartels are bad in juarez pablo escobar much
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we're talking about colombia literally you can't even go there we've had years where bogota has more
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murders than chicago that's really hard to do that's really really hard to do i think it's
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bogota i don't care how they pronounce it i'm american i pronounce it the american way bojota
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bojota bojota cartagena medellin all right okay if you're from venezuela if you're from colombia
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if you're from literally rio like you don't you can't tell us about gun violence all right you just
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can't talk about it and like by the way those three places make juarez look walkable all right
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like they just make they make see you dad juarez hold on juarez is still really bad but compared to
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like rio have you seen the crime stats in rio juarez goes up and down we don't need to go deep
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into the lower on juarez uh hey look my dad goes and gets his teeth fixed in juarez on periscope a
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couple years ago uh we did we did a whole thing on it we're like tanya and i walked over and um we
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were with like dc drano and everybody in el paso and we were like come on let's go walk into juarez
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and nobody wanted to do it so we just walked over and everyone else was too scared we were fine we
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went in the middle of the day of course but we we were perfectly fine we had tacos juarez had oh
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tuana oh tuana had 2052 murders in 2022 yeah that's not merely more than chicago that is three times more
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than chicago that's the place you go for medical procedure and murder it's the the two m's the two
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big m's acapulco used to be this huge thing um down in mexico it's like a resort town um jfk and
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jackie oh went on went there on their honeymoon back in the 60s and now it's like totally cartel
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controlled like there used to be movies shot down there hollywood would do stuff and now it's it's
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all just like cartel land you don't go there three big three big m's medical procedures murder and
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mexican food that's why you go to tijuana okay our producers yelling at us we have to say who won
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or lost the debate jack you actually watched did anybody win i donald trump yes but come on did anyone
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win um honestly so i was handicapping this during the uh during the thing right and that's what
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people understand like we do this you know we're supposed to be like the political strategist here
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is like trying to explain what's going on so nikki haley was having a really good night was all right
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for like 80 to 85 percent of the debate until that crap came up about the curtains which could have been
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funny there's like curtains in the un ambassador's office that that tim scott brought up and there
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was this big uh new york times hit piece on it and he tries to bring it up as like his gotcha on nikki
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haley and instead of like brushing it off she decided to get in this like shrill nasty arguing debate and
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like totally engage him on the issue it got really personal and it sounded like the two of them were just
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throwing estrogen at each other and it was awful it was absolutely disgusting and so she destroyed
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everything that she had built up prior to that point in that moment um so that was a really really bad
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uh moment for her and it really destroyed all the momentum she had built up until that point
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then the other big winner of the night other than of course we can say trump won was joe biden
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um and this was because ron de santis decided to to give joe biden the biggest gift they could think
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of with a giant bow on it by blaming donald trump for the inflation in america this is a huge deal
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uh one that joe biden's team online picked up immediately by the next morning they had already had
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an entire you know campaign video cut on this this is going to be run in swing states this is going to
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be set on the debate stage in 2024 where a republican governor has decided to just completely adopt
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joe biden's white house narrative that donald trump is responsible for inflation i think it was
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i mean number one just a a complete uh backstab by de santis and in in in the pro wrestling world they
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call it scumbagging by the way so he scumbagged him and then what it what it really is was a kamikaze
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kind of move from a failing and desperate campaign to to say that well if we can't win then we're
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going to try to sabotage trump and that's exactly what they did well okay but i mean the trump
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campaign has done that to de santis too like the de santis campaign doesn't have any chance of
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winning blake are you paying attention to like how politics works in america or are you just kind
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of like paying attention to blake well okay but you know i'm not on trump's payroll here so
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none of us are are any of us on trump's payroll i don't know sometimes i wonder i wish i was on
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trump's payroll nobody's on trump's payroll i will tell you that like there's literally very there's
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only a few and you will know who they are that the u.s murder rate in 2021 was 6.9 homicides per
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hundred thousand people columbia is 27.48 so anyway sorry go back okay let's play another piece
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of tape here let's go to uh where's oh yeah from the debate here oh yeah arguing about the curtains
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really fruitful play con 150 i think look i i appreciate tim we've known each other a long time
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but he's been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that he hasn't they've only given four budgets
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on time in 40 years he was part of that he increased the national debt he voted for the
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spending you voted for you you actually asked for a gas tax increase in south carolina 12 years where
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have you been where have you been tim 12 years we've waited and nothing has happened here's what
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you've done here's the thing that i just find interesting ron ron let me finish all these guys
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have said here's the fact and i appreciate a lot of the things they're saying i'm the only one up here
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who's gotten in the big fights and has delivered big victories for the people of florida and that's
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what it's all about like it's just so lame like is anyone going to care about this in like two days
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i just can't imagine it like they didn't care to begin with as they did yeah no one's gonna watch
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no one's gonna care no one knows you need to have like watch fox news all day to have any idea what
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anyone's talking about with the curtains thing nor will it just ever ever matter it's like what do we
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even remember from the democrat ones like four years ago it was like kamala harris like something
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about she was like a girl on a bus or something and it didn't matter no one cares no one cares i was a
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little girl and then joe biden came and he personally and that little girl was me yeah and
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then joe biden personally came in and resegregated the schools and she still became his vice president
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all right so uh this is the supposed to be the line of the night he rehearsed it five times he
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looked in the mirror his consultants whispered him and did he stick the landing well that's really rich
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asking if chris christie could stick a landing play cut 143 and i want to look at that camera right
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now and tell you donald i know you're watching you can't help yourself i know you're watching okay
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and you're not here tonight not because of polls and not because of your indictments you're not
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here tonight because you're afraid of being on this stage and defending your record you're ducking
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these things and let me tell you what's going to happen you keep doing that no one up here is going
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to call you donald trump anymore we're going to call you donald duck all right i want to ask
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boom whoa whoa how it's a pun ever he's done he's just i mean guys this how will trump recover
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losing all my trump paychecks after this easy check
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so the the question that a lot of our audience has tyler is that those people that did watch it
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watched clips and we got this question before is who's in the audience because not very many
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what what yeah first i just let me just mean in person or on on on in person i don't well
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yeah i mean online not very many people are or whatever the the viewer numbers we don't know what
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they are but i bet they're sub 10 million would you agree blake i think based on online chatter sub
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10 million which would be a disaster okay tyler but who's actually physically in the audience
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because when chris christie starts taunting trump there was not a smattering but i'd say a fractional
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applause like about half the room enjoyed it so what do you think he actually goes to these yeah so
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again so the reagan library is not very big so if i was going to i logistically know the property
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pretty well if yeah so charlie's been there a bunch of times i i've been there i think one time
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it's beautiful i love it it's in a very beautiful spot it is very palatious it's very very cool it
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used to be very conservative it's now like a very purplish area it's gonna get worse so simi valley
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yeah uh so thanks to ronald reagan's policies by the way yeah thanks thanks to just the utter
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destruction of california it's the ultimate irony right so so a lot of people don't realize that so
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if we were going to host a debate charlie at turning point action which we could do you know if the
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rnc actually wanted to work with conservatives we would probably make it open and try to invite the
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whole world because why not like why wouldn't you try to get like do this in a swing state
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where you invite people in to 25 000 people yeah to hear people like like give it the public general
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public a chance to actually hear from who's going to be president of the united states
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they decided to do this at the ronald reagan library which can seat comfortably 250 people max