Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 16 — House Speaker Trump？ Mocking the Dead？ Columbus, Hero or Hero？

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00:00:10.680 okay everybody hello it is thought crimes what episode number is this

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00:00:26.000 incredibly enough wow andrew welcome blake and of course jack posobik

00:00:32.320 welcome ladies and gentlemen we finally found out something that actually makes house republicans

00:00:39.220 upset is it is it the locking up of our own people no no is it sending hundreds of billions of dollars

00:00:45.340 to ukraine in a proxy war no no no no no it's it's it's uh parliamentary changes inside the house

00:00:52.980 apparently that that is what makes them upset so it is sometimes we have to debate of what is the lead

00:00:59.000 it's not even a close question this week there is no speaker of the house jack you and i kind of saw

00:01:07.720 this coming i think it would be helpful for our audience to give a layer deeper that we're not

00:01:11.900 always able to share on our shows jack you and i were on a series of group text messages right when

00:01:17.600 i turned off for you know shabbat i kind of saw this boiling up i was starting to get incoming

00:01:22.840 from you know the gates crew right people that were saying hey this is going in a bad direction we're

00:01:29.500 going to do motion to vacate i remember some of the people i know in mccarthy world said oh he's

00:01:33.500 just bluffing it's not going to happen here we are a week later kevin mccarthy is not speaker

00:01:37.920 jack let's fill in you know some of the the underground chatter that you and i have been privy to

00:01:43.620 as we saw this bubbling up to the surface yeah so a lot of this and and charlie you've done a great

00:01:50.160 job of covering it this week on your show and huge props to you because um you know this is something

00:01:55.860 where it's it's it pays to be super in the weeds on things and that's something where i think you

00:02:02.980 know charlie with your perch not only where you are in politics but having turning point your your ear

00:02:08.140 into a lot of different places it just really lends itself to these situations because it's easy to sit

00:02:14.320 on the outside and i see a lot of people just throwing bombs and saying oh yeah throw the bums

00:02:18.020 out get rid of them get rid of this guy get rid of that guy but you're also missing the intricacies 0.96

00:02:22.240 of how it actually works how it plays out the different interests the different factions and that's

00:02:27.300 something where even myself just listening to the charlie kirk show this week it's like wow this is the

00:02:31.220 one place where you can really get all of it because on some shows you know you'll hear oh gates is a

00:02:35.980 traitor gates is evil gates is the worst and then you go on other shows and it's like gates is the

00:02:40.460 greatest patriot he's the he is the the next george washington is what it's like all right can

00:02:44.900 someone just explain to me what's actually going on and that's what i found with listening to charlie

00:02:50.080 i don't mean that just to blow you up i really do think you did a great job and the reason though

00:02:55.380 that people need to understand this better though is because the situation became as as jack cashel said

00:03:01.120 in his great book recently on a different although on a different subject uh it became untenable

00:03:05.720 right it became untenable because you had the grassroots that were so incensed at the lack

00:03:12.000 of action and so upset that they can see the government uh locking people up the fbi starting

00:03:19.640 in a new a new task force just this week and then bragging about it with their leaking their own story

00:03:25.140 to newsweek uh essentially writing a press release for them saying we've started a new task force to go

00:03:30.180 after maga and then you go to the house and you say what are you guys actually doing about any of this

00:03:34.880 oh we've got a big investigation it's very important press release very important letter

00:03:38.720 that's being written just you wait you know the next letter is coming out and people are just

00:03:43.000 getting fed up people are just getting sick and it's getting worse and worse so we saw essentially

00:03:47.920 this civil war brewing because that being said uh gop leadership still has uh considerable and

00:03:55.140 significant resources that they will be bringing to bear and i don't think that they thought matt

00:04:01.180 gates was willing to go through that turns out that he actually is so gates effectively pressed

00:04:06.280 the nuclear button i call it the nuclear option and now here's the interesting wrinkle on in all of

00:04:11.620 this and we we covered on human events earlier today that anyone who wants to be speaker whether

00:04:15.720 it's scalise whether it's jordan whether it's donald trump etc they're essentially walking into a

00:04:21.080 situation where they know that maga and the grassroots and gates representing the grassroots by proxy

00:04:29.180 is exercising command by negation whereby in there's nothing to stop him from doing this again next week

00:04:37.880 next month six months from now so anyone who has to come in guess what you got to make a deal

00:04:43.220 that's why donald trump is going to congress so so blake let's do this and by the way jack we're

00:04:48.040 going to reconnect your audio we could hear you but it's not as pure as it should be so we're going to

00:04:51.480 work with the team on that but uh blake andrew and i are going to carry this forward right now

00:04:55.200 so so blake you and i were chatting a little bit over the weekend last week and so is andrew andrew

00:04:59.300 you were on a lot of these messages too and because you know we're kind of an intersection

00:05:03.060 of all roads where you know i've been very clear i have you know i've been gotten along with kevin

00:05:08.160 mccarthy for years i disagree with how he's handled the debt ceiling and also the cr but he's treated our

00:05:13.440 turning point students and leaders really really well and this kind of thing was bubbling up and i

00:05:18.020 remember i sent a message to one person in kind of mccarthy world i was like guys this is becoming real

00:05:24.300 like this this and you know either blake or andrew you could take it andrew maybe because

00:05:28.440 you're also getting his message i andrew do you think that they actually believed that this motion

00:05:34.540 to vacate would have been successful i had a private conversation with matt gates on sunday

00:05:38.300 when i reopened my phone i had literally had 682 text messages remember andrew the message i sent

00:05:43.140 i said so what's going on like on sunday afternoon i talked to matt gates on the phone he said oh kevin's

00:05:48.880 gonna get bailed out by the democrats he'll still be speaker but it's still a good message to send

00:05:52.400 andrew is this the dog catching the car yeah i think it was charlie i you know i think they were

00:05:59.740 going to give it their best shot um a lot of people a lot of reporters have been texting me saying is

00:06:03.860 this just about personal animus is this matt gates trying to be you know famous or whatever and i'm

00:06:10.260 like a matt gates is already a media darling i don't care whatever anybody says uh he's been

00:06:16.780 highlighted on conservative media and cnn msnbc all this for years he's very articulate and i think

00:06:24.360 he does not see the end of his career being in congress right a lot of people speculated i think 0.91

00:06:29.940 he's even confirmed that he wants to run for governor eventually in the state of florida but he'll be damned

00:06:35.960 if he's going to leave things the status quo as he found them he's also in a very secure district i think

00:06:41.220 he won 70 30 so he's one of those guys that is not only extremely conservative especially fiscally

00:06:48.280 conservative he's he's not only ballsy the guy has you know guts for days the guy is is totally

00:06:55.960 courageous not like these other squishes on capitol hill um but i don't think he exactly knew how this

00:07:01.780 was going to play out a lot of us who were skeptical said gates your qualms are real the gripes are

00:07:08.720 real washington's out of control 2.2 trillion dollar deficits are not sustainable ukraine what

00:07:13.880 the hell and so it's it kind of left us in this place where i think our base and our audience were

00:07:19.600 looking for us to go yeah go gates and it was kind of like well we get where he's coming from we love

00:07:25.000 the guy we think he's he's fantastic in a lot of ways but what's the end game is is kevin mccarthy

00:07:30.140 the best that we will get uh and and that remains to be seen um but this whole call from newt gingrich

00:07:37.020 uh calling them traitors the eight traitors that is completely out of line yeah and i think we've

00:07:42.480 been very morally clear on our show haven't we andrew i think we've been oh yeah no 100 percent

00:07:46.680 newt is somebody who's come on the charlie kirk show multiple times i like newt i think you wrote

00:07:51.140 he's just yeah you wrote an endorsement for his last book um but yeah i mean i think newt is looking

00:07:56.440 at people like speaker pelosi before uh you know when the house was a democrat majority and saying she

00:08:03.220 ruled with an iron fist nobody crossed her we need to get that on the gop side i think that's 0.98

00:08:07.800 wrong the gop is is is a rowdy group it's an independent-minded group we're not collectivists

00:08:13.500 we're not communists we don't think in a block there are factions and clans within the conservative

00:08:18.680 movement i think yes matt gates is probably surprised this worked out but he's probably overjoyed

00:08:23.840 and here's here i'll leave it with this if we get a jim jordan out of this or a speaker trump

00:08:31.100 i mean that's certainly a possibility as it stands today if we get those two outcomes here

00:08:36.180 this will have proven matt gates to be a absolute genius massive success if we get somebody like an

00:08:42.880 emmer or a even a scalise who's i've heard it described as diet mccarthy i think then we are

00:08:49.940 going to find ourselves in a world of hurt and you know people are going to start pointing the finger

00:08:53.920 even more at gates yeah i i'm i receive angry emails about this i think we will not know whether or

00:08:59.720 matt was right based on whether or not hakeem jeffries becomes speaker in january 25 you must

00:09:04.660 hold on to power in the town of dc right blake exactly i think you know andrew mentions the

00:09:11.120 factions that's very real i mean we've got a republican study committee you've got freedom

00:09:15.740 caucus you have you know random wild cards and every single one of those matters because again

00:09:20.000 we don't have a strong majority we have what is it 222 seats we have a majority of five votes and

00:09:26.640 one of those is george santos who at any time you know could be hauled off to god knows where yeah

00:09:30.860 and so that means everyone you know everyone does get a voice but it does mean everyone gets a voice

00:09:38.340 it means matt gates and five friends can blow up the house speakership but it also means the five most

00:09:44.220 liberal house members could blow up a jordan speakers exactly and they're going to and we have

00:09:48.060 to understand that this the game is on right and there's i think that's why you know i i also disagree

00:09:55.620 with what newt said but you can see the frustration that's boiling over there that there's all these

00:10:00.920 republicans who remember it took us weeks to figure out who our speaker is going to be last january

00:10:05.580 and it was really like only mccarthy can unite them is that a good thing is that a disappointing thing

00:10:12.120 you can definitely argue it's a real thing it's a real thing it took them weeks to do this it was

00:10:18.040 really tough there's no one else there's no obvious plan b if you they've been these republicans

00:10:24.080 have been giving statements where they say there are 15 different options on the table yeah there's

00:10:28.860 scalise yeah there's jordan but there's a lot of secondary players and if anyone claims they know

00:10:34.940 exactly what's going to happen they're kidding themselves that was the deal is there was one guy

00:10:39.440 who could basically unite the caucus and we've just thrown him out and anything's on the table and

00:10:44.840 i agree jim jordan would be a good speaker but i think among other things there's going to be

00:10:50.040 a non-zero number of republicans who are going to say we're not going to reward matt gates

00:10:54.780 by giving him you know a speaker who's more in his direction over this tantrum that he threw that's

00:11:01.240 what they would call it and that just sets up the room for a lot of bitterness we've had these claims

00:11:07.340 that you know they're on the brink of uh you know a fisticuffs that are going to fight each other

00:11:11.280 well that's that's not good yeah yeah get that clip and uh once we have it to clip 72 yeah play

00:11:17.540 rep garrett graves tell cnn's jake tapper there have been fistfights if we didn't recess

00:11:22.700 do you agree with uh congressman mchenry's decision he's the the temporary speaker the

00:11:29.880 speaker potem to put a pause on the week to let tensions uh settle uh jake i'll be really candid i

00:11:36.080 think if we had stayed together uh in the meeting last night i think that you would have seen fist

00:11:41.240 thrown and i'm not being dramatic when i say that there is a lot of raw emotions right now i think

00:11:46.720 it was best to let folks go back home decompress a little bit and then come back together

00:11:50.480 so yeah like that's the situation that we've set up here is we have multiple factions in the house

00:11:58.040 we've essentially politically assassinated the one often disappointing figure who is at the head of it

00:12:04.760 and we're in uncharted territory and i do admit you know we've we've said we like mccarthy's always

00:12:11.120 treated us well but i do think strategically there's certain he made some huge mistakes the

00:12:16.140 most obvious to me is the january 6 footage yeah he said he'd release it what is the story with this

00:12:21.800 i don't know that that could have quelled the rebellion it's just it was always over and over

00:12:25.840 people would complain and that's what always signal the sort of bad like he didn't mean to keep the

00:12:30.920 deal it was always like it's gonna come out let's play this out one second andrew if

00:12:34.460 one second if if mccarthy blake would have called gates into his office the day of the cr and said

00:12:40.480 here's all the footage do you think he'd still be speaker i think it would have made it a lot harder

00:12:45.920 for gates to what do you think andrew let's just play that out what do you think so i i just wanted

00:12:49.860 to give some inside baseball i texted a couple um staffers about the j6 footage and their answer to

00:12:57.020 me was it's already out now i i i i had i pushed back and said i don't think it's all all out and

00:13:04.840 they said they pointed me to this new blaze story and blake i can send it to you so you can throw it

00:13:10.560 up on the screen if you want um there is sort of some some you know breaking you know reporting i it

00:13:17.460 hasn't been uh widely you know covered just yet uh but but it is it is out and i'll pull that up for

00:13:24.740 you in just a sec but i i do want to say you know blake blake you said we we got rid of the guy one

00:13:29.500 guy that can unite the caucus i think the bottom line is mccarthy's mistakes strategically first on

00:13:35.380 the debt ceiling uh secondly on the shutdown fight were just too grievous um and now you you hear a lot

00:13:43.400 of people on either side of that debate say oh he lived up to his promises and then they say no he

00:13:48.300 didn't i mean at the end of the day he caved you know i think if he would i think the one thing that

00:13:54.100 could have saved him the one thing that could have saved him was shut the shut the government down show

00:13:59.400 that you're willing to fight for something real when he chose to sort of capitulate and be the quote

00:14:05.440 unquote adult in the room uh that signal the way the way he said it too i think bothered a lot of

00:14:10.920 people i think you're you're basically inferring that the people who could displace you as a

00:14:16.480 speaker are children for wanting to balance the budget or not even balance the budget not have a

00:14:21.520 two trillion dollar deficit yeah it's there was it sucks because we did get one thing that was good

00:14:28.440 which is they didn't give more money to ukraine but that was the weakest one because we immediately

00:14:32.680 had reports that oh they're gonna stick it back in mccarthy supposedly made these promises

00:14:36.420 and that's the only win we had and so you needed something and again it was if you pair that with

00:14:44.120 okay well now we'll bring up the article that supposedly they did uh release the rest of the

00:14:49.160 footage but if they did they didn't they didn't make a lot of noise about it they they could have 0.93

00:14:53.800 really hyped it up they he handled it badly and man all these stupid pop-ups that happen on these 0.93

00:14:58.400 websites yeah he started well though right when he gave it to tucker carlson and then that i mean 0.97

00:15:04.260 that was a massive massive news story it must have been intercepted by the intel agencies that's

00:15:09.000 the is jack back on jack what what why did kevin mccarthy here we hear how's the audio good yes jack

00:15:15.760 we hear you so so jack what no one told me no you're fine so jack why is it that kevin mccarthy

00:15:21.340 never released the footage i mean what we were saying is a hypothetical the j6 footage kevin mccarthy

00:15:26.100 is going to do this cr he knows that his right flank is coming from he's underestimating that threat

00:15:30.540 what if hypothetical he would have brought gates and good and all these guys in a room and said

00:15:35.360 here's a hard drive guys 45 days keep me a speaker this is a big deal for you right do whatever you

00:15:42.840 want with it do you think he would still be speaker of the house look i think there are so many things

00:15:48.920 like that i think the j6 footage i think even even for me it's it's more than just the j6 footage okay

00:15:55.900 and and i've said this before in terms of where i think we should go from now but uh one of the big

00:16:02.180 things that a lot of us said going into the new house gup before the speakers even even decided was

00:16:09.380 don't close the jan 6 committee keep it open but restructure it so that it becomes under our control and

00:16:17.680 then it's an investigate a real investigation into what happened on jan 6 so it's a more comprehensive

00:16:23.480 answer to the same question because yes then it gets you full access to the video plus investigators

00:16:30.680 you bring in darren beaty you bring in julie kelly you bring in everybody that's involved this whole

00:16:35.920 thing and then what do you start issuing subpoenas you start subpoenaing people that they don't want

00:16:40.680 us to talk to you start bringing people in actually get to the situation where we can have those cross 0.94

00:16:45.620 examinations that didn't happen under pelosi look the democrats understand theater they understand

00:16:52.400 political theatrics they understand now does it persuade our side no but their side loves it

00:16:58.600 their side is enthralled with it and then you know what there were even people like steve bannon who when

00:17:05.100 they refused to speak to that committee then got referred to congress and you had snakes like

00:17:11.340 nancy mace who went along with it and then steve bannon had to go on trial and is now facing

00:17:17.300 four months in jail because he refused to submit to nancy pelosi's committee

00:17:23.100 why didn't we have anything like that on our side we had nothing like that there is this i want to i want

00:17:29.040 to introduce another interesting angle here jack and andrew blake whoever so there's this um talking

00:17:35.160 point jack you've heard it tucker carlson famously said on his program that kevin mccarthy would

00:17:40.100 climb through a sewer of glass just to be speaker of the house right blake he wanted to have his portrait

00:17:45.360 he wanted to be a guy who has you know next to nancy pelosi and then john bainer a little bit over

00:17:49.680 yes kevin mccarthy was a speaker of the united states house just like henry clay and sam rayburn

00:17:56.660 before him he wanted to be speaker i think that he was almost what defined his career was i want to be

00:18:03.320 in charge i want to be student class president right and that was kind of well known right jack in dc

00:18:07.540 circles but is now a new truth that has emerged did kevin was he did he want to not violate that's a

00:18:17.000 double negative how do i how did i word it there was something kevin didn't want to be as much as

00:18:21.740 speaker he didn't want to violate the regime because if he would have shut down the government

00:18:26.260 and released the j6 tapes he would still be speaker maybe maybe he caught the car too it was like you

00:18:32.840 know matt gates caught the car of drumming him out what do you mean by that well so kevin mccarthy

00:18:37.240 wanted to be speaker and then he caught he caught the car he became the speaker he was like i don't

00:18:41.280 want it that way this sucks this is terrible we were joking andrew when he became speaker and we said 0.79

00:18:48.140 yeah sure you want the job right and because it's a four-seat majority and you're ideologically 0.85

00:18:53.900 not necessarily in line with the people that you have to lead right andrew yeah i mean i think the

00:19:00.840 the history when it's written about mccarthy's speakership is that he essentially had to sell

00:19:08.080 away any security that he might have otherwise had in order to attain the speakership in the first

00:19:14.920 place so now the big debate is about this can one member of the house bring about a motion to vacate

00:19:21.600 right and so that's why you have mitch mcconnell going on and saying i want to thank speaker mccarthy

00:19:26.760 you've been a tremendous uh uniparty puppet just like me but you know if i could give one word of

00:19:32.380 advice to the incoming speaker you know you got to change that rule right and then you had you had 0.93

00:19:37.520 jim jordan i saw him on with you know fox and friends and kill me and said are you going to get

00:19:41.900 rid of it and then meanwhile you had matt gates uh saying you know he was asked right after speaker

00:19:48.560 mccarthy was ousted he did a little press gaggle outside of the capitol and one of the questions were

00:19:53.120 were you know will you accept the new speaker without this single member being able to bring

00:19:57.440 up a motion to vacate and he said absolutely not so you've got matt gates saying he will not approve

00:20:02.720 the next speaker without a single member motion to vacate clause meanwhile you have all the

00:20:08.380 establishment voices saying get rid of this thing and jim jordan i think did a good job he said in his

00:20:13.540 answer he said you know listen that's something the conference is going to have to debate and come to

00:20:17.600 an agreement on but i i have a feeling that is going to ultimately be the big sticking point

00:20:22.440 the question is can jim jordan who matt gates defines as his mentor can he well gates to say

00:20:29.340 that you need two members i mean obviously gates has eight people with him right now so why don't

00:20:33.300 you just say well you need eight votes you need eight votes to bring a motion of eight kate if not

00:20:37.740 then yeah here's here's here's the next element sorry to interrupt andrew the establishment the

00:20:44.400 regime they're they're pissed that's what's used thought crime language right i mean you see these

00:20:49.140 messages i see it publicly and privately they're going to want to redefine the congress in their

00:20:53.780 image they're they're not going to do anything that good and gates luna donalds and roy want to do

00:20:59.380 right blake of course not they're they're really at a minimum they're really annoyed that he just

00:21:04.640 went and you know at a minimum we've we'll spend a week on this we could spend many weeks it could

00:21:10.540 just be essentially derail everything they had planned for this fall good or bad and it's all

00:21:17.260 for a guy who as we mentioned you know he's this is not the end of his career he's uh i'm not sure

00:21:22.720 if he's officially announced yet he's running for governor he probably will very heavily rumored at

00:21:27.240 minimum and so you know he sees his career as either a different office or you know hosting you

00:21:34.040 maybe he wants to host a talk show or some other program and that's his future and he sees this

00:21:38.860 essentially as a way to increase his fame and so all of these guys who are in the house for the

00:21:44.160 long haul are like this guy who he's basically using the house as his personal you know bully

00:21:50.800 launching pad his launching pad and well this is a chamber of the united states government that has

00:21:56.680 to pass legislation and it's not just a fox news show it is not just yeah it's not just a fox news

00:22:01.420 show it's not just a bully pulpit so so jack let me ask you a provocative question here since this

00:22:05.560 is thought crimes this never would have happened with boehner this never would have happened with

00:22:09.700 pelosi is there an argument to be had that mccarthy was not machiavellian enough in creating oppo files

00:22:16.480 threatening blackmail and basically telling dissident rebellious members from the beginning i will

00:22:22.000 destroy your life if you walk out of line well i suppose you could say that to an extent if not for

00:22:28.760 the fact that matt gates has already had pretty much all the oppo possible drop that's the irony

00:22:33.820 the last couple of years right so what could you possibly put out in terms of oppo to hang over

00:22:39.760 this guy's head that hasn't already been put out over the i don't even know i don't remember exactly

00:22:45.160 i think 2020 i guess is when it really started 2021 but was the spring of 2021 when they said that he

00:22:50.560 was under doj investigation for sex trafficking it was february or march of 21 yeah and then there's

00:22:56.920 already an ethics investigation open on him currently so all of this stuff is going on and he just keeps

00:23:02.960 not he keeps not going on so yes you could make that argument maybe but with gates it's i don't

00:23:09.680 know what else you could do it's already all out there well jack on that note we have a we have a

00:23:15.220 senator uh mark wayne mullen uh do we want to play it but yeah let's play it no no i just want to say

00:23:22.700 i i'm the matt gates denies all these allegations this is just a flavor of a taste we played it on our

00:23:28.540 show and i felt uncomfortable playing it because it felt like tabloidy crap but this is a u.s senator

00:23:33.800 who by the way is an ally of mcconnell this is not like ran paul right who's so obviously this u.s 0.77

00:23:39.660 senator is just communicating the oppo basically they're coming after matt gates hard they're not

00:23:44.660 going to lay off of this sort of narrative right they're basically going to say matt gates is hugh

00:23:49.440 hefner and they're gonna by the way listen carefully he says underage girl in this video

00:23:54.680 okay what tape is this ryan i thought it was like 30 yeah play that please play it you gotta think

00:24:00.640 about this guy um this is a guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a time of day to after

00:24:05.860 he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl there's a reason why no one and the conference

00:24:11.560 came defended him because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of

00:24:16.580 us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with he'd brag about how he would crush ed medicine

00:24:21.940 and and and chase it with um with an energy drink so he could go all night this is obviously before

00:24:28.300 you got married and so when that accusation came out no one defended him and then no one on the media

00:24:32.840 would give him a time of the day all of a sudden he found fame because he opposed the speaker of the

00:24:37.340 house like it kind of makes me think obviously he denies it although it does make me think of the old

00:24:45.240 uh the alice cooper anecdote where he got he supposedly bit the head off a chicken on stage

00:24:49.980 and he actually did not and denied it uh that he bit a head off a bat and i think he literally did

00:24:56.320 it i can't remember but alice cooper supposedly bit the head off a chicken and then frank zappa calls

00:25:00.940 him he's like i don't care what you actually did don't deny it under any circumstances and that's

00:25:06.460 what alice cooper lived his entire career doing and now it's like so he didn't you know admittedly like

00:25:10.720 the videos he supposedly was sharing which he denies like not with underage girls sort of like

00:25:15.740 do you want to you know if you're doing this all to get famous anyway just sort of like be evasive

00:25:19.640 about everything and just say like people say a lot of things about me a lot of these things are

00:25:23.460 unfair and i mean don't you think it's kind of like gates has a little bit of that trump uh ability

00:25:29.520 where it's kind of baked into the cake that yeah we know you were a bit of a lothario you know you had

00:25:35.120 a relationship with what is it cassidy hutchinson she denies it like like you know gates is married

00:25:41.400 though now even even senator mark wayne mullin said you know he admitted he's like obviously this

00:25:45.800 was before he was married i think you know listen i think we're socially conservative uh on the show

00:25:52.220 safe to say however it's also baked into the cake with matt gates that he's not as socially

00:25:57.800 conservative and this was just the way he was before he was married i think everybody knows that about

00:26:02.940 him um do we excuse it what's that he's like silvio berlusconi in italy where silvio berlusconi

00:26:11.020 is this you know right wing leader in italy he'll even you know support all of these or the argentinian

00:26:16.180 guy yeah he'll even support socially conservative policies as does the argentine guy the guy's like

00:26:19.860 yeah i'm very pro-life anti-abortion and he's a polygamist he yeah he's like a polygamist who uh

00:26:26.200 i think he's pro-drug and yeah and he does he does like weird um daoist stuff yes very all very

00:26:33.620 strange and same with berlusconi and you just you lean into it i'm a colorful character and it's like

00:26:37.940 what i personally do is not the same as the policies that i support and you just build the legend up i

00:26:42.980 mean and that's gates in a nutshell it's just kind of like like can we stop acting like a bunch of

00:26:50.160 losers all the time like i'm sick of this whole like oh we're the republicans we're the ned flanders

00:26:55.980 party hi didlarino uh neighborino did you get the game did you see the you know what happened what the 0.99

00:27:03.020 was going on with the church moms this week like like hand the mic over to martin shkreli hand the

00:27:09.560 mic over to donald trump hand the mic over to matt gates a little bit and you guys you'll sit there

00:27:14.640 and you'll say you know mark wayne mullen he's a guy from oklahoma it's the first time he's ever

00:27:18.100 caught a promo in his life i think the last time he did anything uh that he actually stood up for

00:27:22.920 was regulating ufc if you guys remember that bill he was trying to push a while back it's like oh let's

00:27:27.620 let's get in there and regulate ufc because this is too too dangerous you know remember when uh john 0.99

00:27:32.640 mccain used to say that crap too it's like these guys are such losers and they wonder why they 0.99

00:27:37.600 completely lost the culture they wonder why nobody takes them seriously they wonder why they just sit 1.00

00:27:43.120 and they hector you like a bunch of school marms seriously i'm sick of this party 1.00

00:27:47.980 this is why i got out of politics and totally quit politics a long time ago before the trump 0.97

00:27:52.760 movement so i didn't vote for romney so i didn't vote for mccain it's just ridiculous i'm sick of 0.96

00:27:57.740 the old gop i'm sick of this crap so let's let's close this up then do we like trump as speaker jack 0.80

00:28:03.480 posobic i mean it's more kind of a fun topic of what this would look like dan crenshaw is not going 0.94

00:28:09.720 to vote for trump as speaker okay let's just be honest right uh i mean dusty johnson don bacon right

00:28:15.580 but it's a fun thought exercise right blake the way it happens the way it happens there it is right

00:28:22.120 there yeah trump yeah just the way it happens is they they bring it up and it starts voting and

00:28:26.820 then they're halfway through and then some of the the democrats just say yeah i vote i vote trump as

00:28:31.520 speaker i want to see what happens when that occurs and they lean into it and they're like yeah

00:28:35.540 full chaos mode and admittedly i can imagine a lot of funny imagery one you buy him a gavel that's two or

00:28:41.460 three times as big as a normal one just give him the you just gavel ever two just imagine imagine

00:28:46.340 we're getting uh you know every time they hold a vote vote trump's like let's have a nice clean fair

00:28:52.080 vote unlike the 2020 election which was rigged and then you have the speaker of the house election

00:28:58.400 uh or that's that's the state of the union address he could either just cancel he has to invite biden to

00:29:04.720 give the speech he would just give it himself he could give it himself he could say here's the real

00:29:08.560 state of the union up up yours biden and i apologize for my terrible trump accent by the way

00:29:13.680 or we get the normal state of the union and he's seated right next to kamala behind biden you're

00:29:19.420 making all of his facial expressions during during the speech there's a lot of potential here and i

00:29:25.220 admit it is so ridiculous to imagine but i wanted to occur hold on i won't hold on a second jack this

00:29:32.300 obviously plays to all of trump's strengths right parliamentarian issues detail you know sitting

00:29:38.260 in rooms for six to seven hours on end organizing people you disagree with to try to have concessions

00:29:45.020 on micro policy debates about the abstractions of corporate tax cuts these obviously all those

00:29:51.640 things obviously play to trump's strengths no see what i what i think trump is actually doing here

00:29:56.760 is this is classic art of the deal right it's a threat so he's threatening that he'll put himself

00:30:02.620 up for speaker and oh by the way threatening that he'll reach out to his entire army right as as

00:30:10.220 newsweek calls it and the fbi call apparently army of trump supporters through email and text messages

00:30:15.580 can you imagine the text messages right your member of congress is refusing to support me for speaker

00:30:21.960 here's their phone number you need to call them immediately you need to get them on the horn why do you

00:30:28.040 refuse imagine that in every single republican district in this country going no so what he's

00:30:33.060 doing is he's threatening them and then he's basically coming back to saying all right i'll

00:30:37.340 remove the threat if you agree to maga terms and you have to agree to those terms number one to get the

00:30:43.960 trump threat to go away but then number two also to help him with with the election endorsements etc

00:30:50.080 there's so many things he can use with this and then number three you still have matt gates out

00:30:54.240 there with the potential of the mega nuclear option the command by negation he could do this

00:30:59.500 whenever he wants the real thing that's very interesting by the way is the fact that not a

00:31:04.480 single person has asked what's ron de santis's opinion on the on the situation opinion on the speaker

00:31:09.780 question and that is because the governor has reduced himself into complete political irrelevancy

00:31:14.900 so andrew trump for speaker you know i gotta admit i there's a part of me that really loves it i think

00:31:25.240 to blake's point i can just see the i mean let's be honest dc is a complete circus it's clown show

00:31:30.760 uh and he can be the barnum and bailey of all of it and i think you know there's a part of me that

00:31:37.180 that that would enjoy the chaos just because how how could it get any worse and actually maybe he would

00:31:43.240 be surprisingly good at it when you talk about the art of the deal getting people

00:31:47.020 together on the same page that disagree with each other he's actually pretty good at that

00:31:52.460 some of his i would say worst outcomes as president were probably because he actually enjoys you know

00:31:59.300 making friends with schumer and things like that so that's maybe you could look at it as a weakness

00:32:03.680 or a strength um i think when you talk about detail um when you talk about parliamentary i'm kidding

00:32:10.780 i'm just saying speaker of the house is an awful job let's just be honest like yeah no i completely

00:32:14.660 agree you have to sit in subcommittee meetings and you have to get like yelled at by bow tie guy because

00:32:19.980 page 84 has you know a section three has some sort of regulatory issue and trump would be like 0.99

00:32:28.740 forget it you're the worst i used to like you take that stupid bow tie off now you're it's just like 0.97

00:32:34.420 not exactly it's not exactly he's a macro guy can we all agree trump is macro right um 1.00

00:32:40.620 and this the speaker of the house is both macro and micro where you have to you it's babysitting

00:32:46.300 217 people right blake exactly exactly just imagine him trying to corral them you know for

00:32:51.740 the caucus meetings even just like the basic fact the house will now meet at bedminster yeah he's

00:32:57.480 just he's gonna either force him to leave dc or he'd have to go to dc which he probably doesn't

00:33:01.360 want to do he barely doesn't even have a hotel anymore yeah and it's all right i wonder if there's

00:33:07.080 any other non-house speakers like you could name anyone you could alert you could elect to talker

00:33:11.540 you could elect elon musk you could zeldin is a name that people the legend of zeldin zeldin would

00:33:16.680 be great zeldin would be terrific you could anyone zeldin could unite the tribes zeldin could unite

00:33:23.320 the tribes speaker charlie kirk oh yeah you know what's you know it's so funny someone actually

00:33:26.940 recommended that in the chat am i old enough to be speaker i don't think there's any rules i think

00:33:31.080 you could elect a child speaker wow charlie turns 30 next week i would be a real bad speaker let me

00:33:37.740 tell you that would last charlie charlie's on the last gasp of uh 20s i know i'm retiring charlie

00:33:45.660 kirk next saturday i'm done i made a promise i'd do it till i'm 30 you have to retire because

00:33:50.900 he's hanging up i know now because i'm gonna go i'm gonna go become a college football coach i gave

00:33:55.960 it 12 years guys see you later amen it's not a joke i'm gonna start my college football coaching

00:34:01.160 career and i will go to colorado you want to prime time i will not coach for deon sanders that would

00:34:07.200 that would not go well that would last about an afternoon

00:34:10.360 yeah i'll let everyone kind of just that pause of people wonder why prime time

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00:35:50.140 take a backseat role in this one because i have honestly had a very long and interesting week and 0.93

00:35:56.280 you guys have been blowing up our feeds about white liberals that are being stopped stabbed by black 0.98

00:36:00.680 criminals so i'm not really following this as closely it's it's so jack educate me right so you've got 0.97

00:36:06.180 this is the the the the love story of antifa betty the tragic love story of antifa betty and her antifa

00:36:13.660 soy friend and uh what what we have here is we have here is a failure to communicate no it's it's a

00:36:20.820 4 a.m in the morning two essentially antifa members supporters and this this you know is is immaterial

00:36:31.380 people would say to the video itself but i disagree because they encounter and and before we play the

00:36:39.140 video full guys just just pause there for a second before we encounter what actually happens to them 0.88

00:36:47.060 they're sitting on a bus you know bus stop bench uh brooklyn new york a crazed black psychopath 0.90

00:36:55.400 wielding a knife at 4 a.m walks past them 4 a.m yeah it's like 3 51 the time stamp is there

00:37:01.480 he walks past them in the video you can see the guy get up off the bench with his girlfriend walk

00:37:09.600 towards the maniac engage him start speaking with him then he gets threatened with the knife and finally

00:37:19.020 at that point freaks out and runs away he trips over the bench he is stabbed to death there's no

00:37:26.780 reaction whatsoever during this at any point from the girlfriend um then after they leave she refuses

00:37:35.800 to give the police a description of the assailant so i think we have the uncensored video and because

00:37:43.000 this is rumble i say we let it fly yeah let's let it fly and that's actually not unusual i'm going to

00:37:47.760 give an anecdote at a journey germany that uh actually fits this that you may or may not know

00:37:52.860 about because i actually got very little coverage okay let's let's play it

00:37:55.960 full disclosure i hate watching this video so i'm not gonna hold disclosure this is graphic

00:38:04.200 yeah i'm gonna check some email i'm totally desensitized to this at this point that's nice

00:38:09.600 yeah if you have young kids take their uh take them away from this park

00:38:22.420 포인ette please please please�� break it please

00:38:30.760 하니까

00:38:32.060 ready

00:38:35.720 comezyka

00:38:37.580 so over under how long that guy's going to be back on the streets probably less than a decade

00:38:46.640 um crime of passion he'll just say yeah crime of passion uh i'm sorry not a you know what i mean

00:38:54.900 a crime of excitement not premeditated they'll say he was on drugs systemic racism way more

00:39:00.160 simple we'll just have you know the structural racism act of 2028 and those kind of like saw

00:39:04.560 75 off of all of the prison sentences yeah so but this gets weird jack or noteworthy because

00:39:12.440 this person was a super left-wing activist right and this is happening in a bizarre like this is a

00:39:17.740 well it's very strange what's happening right now right jack it's in philadelphia here

00:39:23.980 baltimore there are these pro blm white liberals that are getting hunted down by blacks at an 0.97

00:39:30.140 alarming rate right jack it's it's it's the bides war genocide it's the bides war genocide 0.96

00:39:34.880 the bides war means it means white left in chinese on chinese internet they like to call

00:39:39.460 white liberals the white left bides war i i don't i can't say it right but it's not just

00:39:44.100 whites right we got uh where they are the democrat congressman who was car jack you've got this

00:39:49.660 shivanti south and nondon a minnesota democrat who got car jack um and then yeah you have this philly

00:39:57.560 guy who was like obsessed with larry krasner he was shot seven times and killed in his home

00:40:03.980 and then and you know and then he's a larry krasner supporter he's a larry krasner supporter

00:40:10.040 yep um guy who my brother actually knew by the way what's that guy's name i don't have it listed

00:40:14.860 here josh kruger yeah yeah say it again josh kruger and i don't think we know specifically if that was

00:40:22.180 he might have been shot by someone he knew he was in like the drug world no no there is a person

00:40:26.200 there is a person of interest in that uh however that person was so uh we're told that it was a

00:40:32.480 former lover um also similar to the matthew shepherd situation where he was killed by a former lover

00:40:37.480 despite what the media will tell you and uh in this case that the same former lover who killed josh

00:40:43.720 kruger shot him seven times in the chest uh police also say that it would this person of interest and

00:40:49.360 again person of interest not suspect not arrested yet so all the caveats there but they do say that

00:40:54.280 there are text messages that were seemed very alarming to them from this individual and that

00:40:59.220 it was the same individual who had essentially broken into his house uh recently after getting

00:41:03.940 out of prison just some months prior so it seems to be a to your point it wasn't like a random killing

00:41:09.580 so so blake let's take a step back what what talk about the macro here okay so macro just to kind

00:41:14.920 of put it on display put up uh cut 90 uh this is a cartoon that actually pre-existed it was before the

00:41:20.280 last few weeks it's a kind of a cartoon where it's you know this uh mother and her her child

00:41:26.880 walking and they see kind of this like angry looking kind of white homeless guy and she's like 1.00

00:41:31.600 let's do that and then at least we're still alive and then same thing with a you know different race 0.96

00:41:36.680 where they're like let's keep going and well at least we're not racist r.i.p and you know that

00:41:41.540 definitely is kind of a dynamic that probably plays out for example in the brooklyn case not in every

00:41:47.300 case but the big picture here is you know a lot of like elite liberals sort of they'll say all the

00:41:53.000 right things but they know the score they don't live in the dangerous cities that they promote they

00:41:57.660 live in you know they either live in a gated community or they live in their nice little like

00:42:01.960 leafy suburb where it still looks like 1978 and you know they know what's going on in their cities and

00:42:08.280 they don't take part in it but you do have these kind of young more uh radical ideologues who will

00:42:13.360 very proudly say like it's all slander you know krasner is a great da this city's awesome everyone 0.98

00:42:18.220 who says it's dangerous is full of crap and they die and then some of them end up dying they pay the 0.96

00:42:22.920 toll as it were but but this is where it gets sick and jack i don't want to bury the lead here the most 0.99

00:42:26.680 important part of the story you just kind of said quickly and i don't think everyone caught it

00:42:29.800 that the young lady they were dating or whatever she watches her boyfriend get murdered in the street

00:42:36.320 with a knife and then when the police ask her she refuses to disclose the race of the victim right

00:42:42.800 thereby disclosing the race no but yeah again it's not exactly rocket science no no i am what blake

00:42:48.600 what blake is saying that is that the if it was a white uh assailant then she would have been

00:42:54.100 easily likely to yeah but but this this is why i tell people this is a very cynical black pill moment

00:43:00.400 i hope everyone understands this this is a very this is not funny in the sense of civilizational 0.87

00:43:06.820 stuff because some people are saying oh you know they deserve to die i i don't like that stuff you

00:43:09.820 guys could disagree you could i i there there's an element of you know awfully dark irony here but

00:43:15.080 no hold on this is where i get really blackpilled this is a young lady who watched someone she cared

00:43:20.520 about get slit in the throat and when the police come to find out who did it she refuses to give the

00:43:27.280 information because she's more afraid of being called a racist than finding the justice for who 0.99

00:43:33.300 killed her boyfriend i'm going to give you another example in germany recently a young lady was gang 0.97

00:43:38.700 raped by a you know the story by a bunch of muslims and a bunch of arabs she goes to the police and 1.00

00:43:44.580 said i was gang raped by a bunch of white germans lied about the race i remember remember this this is a 0.98

00:43:49.880 real story so that the police right i don't know the timeline prager just told it to me and if prager 0.87

00:43:54.800 says that means he's vetted it because he's very he's a stickler for this stuff and i could find the

00:43:59.720 time so the the police go and try to find a group of white germans that raped this girl she was willing 0.95

00:44:06.240 to protect her rapists when asked she said i did not want to increase the anti-immigrant sentiment 0.99

00:44:12.200 this is a girl that was gang raped and she was more concerned about protecting her rapists

00:44:19.540 in pursuit of a racial revolution there is no saving these people because you know the talking 0.90

00:44:26.600 point is you know they're going to turn into right-wingers as soon as their friends get murdered

00:44:30.140 and their storefronts get bashed jack what did the friends of this guy say the friends came out and 0.99

00:44:36.020 they said he would have felt sorry for them for this black maniac because he had a lack of stuff 0.91

00:44:43.360 because he was under resource lack of resources and a victim of society and a press member and this 0.97

00:44:49.620 is why to black pills i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna i'm gonna say this and and i and i say this

00:44:55.580 with love i do say this with love okay for the people out there who think all you need to say

00:45:01.180 is that uh facts don't care about your feelings it's actually backwards because these people know that

00:45:08.120 it's very smart you're exactly will never never uh accept appeals to reason appeals to reason will

00:45:16.100 never work on them specifically for liberal women but liberals in general it's because they're they 1.00

00:45:21.680 are rooted in empathy their politics are rooted in victimization in empathy in emotion in emotional

00:45:28.560 resonance particularly for liberal women i tweeted this the other day that what leftism has done is

00:45:33.980 taken the natural maternal instinct and then reprogrammed that for the marginalized and depressed

00:45:41.660 and victim classes of society it's completely marxian where they've taken this innate um instinct that 0.97

00:45:48.960 all women have to protect their children and they've sort of gotten them to latch it on to these 1.00

00:45:53.340 different you know these different groups of society and it by the way this doesn't only mean

00:45:59.080 childless millennials or childless women you could have kids and still believe this stuff too 0.61

00:46:02.960 uh it just means that they are playing on those natural emotional tendencies and so if you're if

00:46:09.060 you're sitting there citing statistics and logic and you know facts and reason and all this like this

00:46:13.780 is not even logic this is not this this is what's so amazing jack you're making a smart point but

00:46:18.860 when you see a murder happen in front of you that defies let's let's let's let's scarring that this

00:46:24.440 feeling that's what's so amazing is that it's ideology even over feeling because that's what's in

00:46:31.240 because yes that that's the point that's what we're getting at there's a phenomenology of spirit

00:46:36.780 here where this woman here on screen i want you all this is not isolated we have like tons of

00:46:41.840 examples she was more concerned right blake remember that guy in atlanta that called the cops

00:46:47.820 on the black guy terrorizing his family and he starts like yeah and he starts crying

00:46:51.300 i didn't want this he was black and all this so blake i mean again i i'm not blackpilled on 0.77

00:46:57.820 everything but i there is this talking point that i hear all the time once it gets bad enough people

00:47:02.620 are going to come to the right i don't see that i see that they will only be like you know it's a

00:47:08.040 damn shame that my best friend got slit his throat slit in front of me but let the revolution

00:47:13.380 continue the one that the one that i sometimes think of is um i believe it was molly tibbets was the 0.99

00:47:19.860 iowa girl no that's another good one right where her 2017 her stepfather or whatever came out 0.93

00:47:24.540 university of iowa he says what he said was like i you know she was very pro-immigrant yeah she was

00:47:30.300 very pro-immigrant and then he you know after she gets murdered by an illegal immigrant he says you 1.00

00:47:34.540 know mexicans he just says mexicans he's like they're just iowans with better food which if you

00:47:39.240 want to interpret that literally it is they are strictly speaking superior to us they are exactly the

00:47:45.740 same as us or better in all ways very smart and you do like you will hear this you'll just be like

00:47:51.060 oh man we're getting a lot of uh you know refugees in this town what does that mean we're gonna get a

00:47:55.340 bunch of great restaurants and otherwise nothing will change i want to read this headline here

00:47:59.220 there's actually i was gonna say there's actually a little more to this go ahead okay um they

00:48:06.060 his friends have launched a gofundme uh for this they say the beneficiary of this

00:48:12.800 is claudia morales the girl the girlfriend they've currently raised 67 000 this is not for

00:48:20.620 funeral costs this is not for memorial it specifically says the money is for them we've

00:48:27.320 got it here bring it up on screen we can uh we can take a look at what do you mean for them is that

00:48:31.080 like is that like a trans thing they them no no no it says immediate needs are to offset the costs

00:48:37.980 of working class people taking time off of work and essentially says that they're just they're just 0.98

00:48:46.100 raising money like they're just taking money and exploiting this guy's death to put it in their own

00:48:51.020 pockets to give it to her and and here's what's so crazy charlie is that i've so there's comments on

00:48:55.800 this current there's currently 39 as i look right now because when you when you donate money you can

00:48:59.820 comment not a single one of the comments that i've seen so far have mentioned the fact that he was

00:49:05.760 murdered have mentioned the murderer have called for justice have called for accountability um

00:49:11.320 someone saying uh you'll love this one actually the reaction by some to ryan's passing jarred me out

00:49:20.640 of a deep nihilistic right-wing abyss in which i was leave living reading about ryan and his work

00:49:26.920 reminded me that each of us has a story we love we laugh we have goals i will probably think about ryan

00:49:33.940 every day andrew you you haven't you haven't chimed in yet what the hell is going on here i mean this

00:49:39.940 is i mean this is really sick i i was i'm personally super disgusted by this whole story and i i think

00:49:48.500 my reaction is similar to yours charlie that when we say it has to get bad enough in some of these

00:49:55.300 blue hell holes for it to finally get better i mean i think that's true to an extent i mean you see

00:50:01.360 eric adams is down in mexico he's saying it's ruining immigration is ruining the new york city

00:50:08.980 you see this gang rape story uh out of bemidji minnesota which is like and the cops going sleepiest

00:50:15.720 town in the midwest yeah it's a it's a completely all the migrants to the whitest areas of america 1.00

00:50:20.720 why is that yeah well minnesota takes in more uh refugees and asylum seekers i think than any

00:50:27.440 other state last i checked or at least it's uh proportionally more than any other state

00:50:31.600 they deliberately send them to the whitest areas oh yeah no of course and but you see this for folks

00:50:38.040 who don't know this story i mean it's it's in the same vein as as brooklyn is philly baltimore which

00:50:44.300 we haven't touched on yet where you've got a white enclave the cops go this 11 year old girl was 1.00

00:50:51.160 with an aunt apparently the aunt took her out she gets plastered says let's hop in this car as soon 0.54

00:50:59.320 as they get in the car bags are put over their head i don't i think they kick the aunt out at some

00:51:04.600 point they take the 11 year old girl back to this home and inside the home she's tied up

00:51:11.180 in in between two other girls who are also tied up four men took turns gang raping all three of them 0.95

00:51:19.880 one of the girls untied the 11 year old girl she manages to escape and they take her to a hospital

00:51:27.000 and she reports the gang rape the cops execute a search warrant at the home and lo and behold there's

00:51:35.920 11 illegals just chilling in that home where these girls were getting gang raped

00:51:40.280 they've arrested one man who's actually native born texan but he's hispanic um and the 11 others

00:51:47.900 were put in the custody of border patrol um what's to happen to them i have i have no idea i mean every

00:51:54.460 single one of them if they were complicit in any way shape or form of this crime should be freaking

00:52:00.420 taken out on the corner of the street and shot point blank and and the fact that uh we're just we're 0.92

00:52:06.680 just like unleashing hell onto the streets of america i think that's how your tweet said it

00:52:10.420 charlie and we we are not more outraged and and yes we are but the fact that democrats and these blue

00:52:17.560 cities are not outraged at what they are unleashing onto america i think is the most morally repulsive

00:52:24.680 and blackpilling event of at least the last five years for me um i'm so disgusted but i know this trend

00:52:32.900 in the media and we should show image 101 and it's a it's a side-by-side because not only would

00:52:39.560 this girlfriend not back to the new york brooklyn poet not only would the girlfriend not describe

00:52:46.060 the victim or the the assailant now he he actually police get this guy and cbs blurs out his face

00:52:54.300 and so we were having a debate and blake was like is that common i was like i don't think so i've never

00:52:59.060 seen that before except for with children it's because it's a black person who has privilege in 0.98

00:53:03.840 america no of course so that side by side with daniel penny also cbs news there we see his face real

00:53:11.560 clear now he's infamous now he'll never live a normal life again for defending people on a subway car

00:53:17.080 from a crazy man but yet this guy stabs a poet the the girlfriend won't describe what he looks like

00:53:23.540 they get him cbs won't even show him and and so it's so endemic it's so like saturated through and

00:53:31.640 through both the media complex as well as their little puppets and on the street at 4 a.m i i mean

00:53:39.020 i i don't know how you fix it i the the brainwashing is so thorough and you can't you can't fix it and

00:53:45.160 this is this is what and i had the long private conversation with prager and i asked him this because

00:53:50.320 i really respect his moral clarity on this and he said charlie i was of the belief for a couple

00:53:55.120 decades that you hit rock bottom then all of a sudden people start to wake up and it's not it's

00:54:00.360 what alexander solzhenitsyn wrote in the gulag archipelago this is all thanks to ideology ideology

00:54:05.960 will trump reality yes that's what's so unbelievable yes most americans and the most american right there

00:54:11.940 is this inevitability there's this hey it's going to get bad and then all of a sudden people will come

00:54:17.820 to their senses like no it's just going to get worse it's a vision i think a lot of it's sort of

00:54:25.000 a very common fantasy is probably the best word a lot of i used to believe it a lot of conservatives

00:54:30.540 like the idea that people aren't listening to me but there will be this day where there's this big

00:54:35.620 cataclysm and everyone turns to you and it's like you were right charlie why didn't i listen to you oh i

00:54:41.740 was so wrong and then they like sob and then you rebuild america it's like it's sort of like the

00:54:46.180 fantasy of you know there's an apocalypse and then you're the one who was prepared for it and all of

00:54:51.160 that but yeah the sad truth is is people can persist in ideological insanity to incredible depths the

00:54:58.940 mind is is so unbelievably powerful there are people who just fanatically believed in adolf hitler all

00:55:05.820 the way to the point where you know the soviets were in berlin and gang raping everyone there and 0.91

00:55:11.060 they had just completely destroyed their country and they still believed in him secretly afterwards

00:55:15.220 and you know there were diehards for every regime it it makes me think of two things one you know

00:55:22.820 i've always wondered why you know in the bible story of exodus trump didn't let the uh original

00:55:28.840 generation get to the promised land he let them all die off except except caleb and joshua

00:55:34.800 were only two that got in honestly for some reason that's what i'm thinking of right now it's like

00:55:39.120 how do you how do you get to the promised land with these types of people in your ranks i don't

00:55:42.780 know it's depressing secondly it makes me think of the fact you know this debate of what to do on the

00:55:48.020 border you know all these all these groups and uh you know texas and florida shipping migrants

00:55:54.600 illegals uh to to blue cities i mean we're just gonna get stuck with them forever i mean these people 1.00

00:56:00.180 will accept them so this this is this is where conservatives get it wrong um they think that they can just

00:56:08.280 let things collapse things will get worse and fall apart and then we can come in and sweep things up

00:56:13.580 no uh that will not work because these people have been presented in ideology that persuades them

00:56:18.840 the only response to this is an organized response an organized vision for a way out

00:56:25.780 an organized system um and a coalition of coalitions if you will whatever you want to call it you have to

00:56:32.060 actually prevent present excuse me present a vision for what's coming forward you must articulate that

00:56:38.580 vision you must organize your ranks you have to go around the country it'd be amazing if we had a

00:56:43.120 an organization that was going around organizing youth hey we should start we should start one at

00:56:47.980 some point someone should do chapters you're trying to change the direction of america it's like

00:56:53.480 you're trying to reach there's almost a point of turning point of we'll think of a name jack sorry

00:56:59.300 continue and then and then you turn usa love it turn around turn turn you turn you how about this

00:57:07.800 180 america i love it 180 no it's and it's and the thing is is is people just assume that you it's it's

00:57:16.400 going to happen by itself it won't this is why the trump movement existed because people finally got

00:57:22.340 off their butts they found a leader that people could rally behind someone who had a clear articulate 0.58

00:57:27.800 vision for the way forward someone who wasn't a loser like one of these ned flanders old right 0.98

00:57:33.140 republican conserva dorks and was actually going to go forward and say we're going to make america great

00:57:38.140 again we're going to be rich we're going to be awesome we're going to put people on the moon and 0.63

00:57:41.560 we're going to tell commies to shut up and we're going to send them back to trotsky and it's basically 0.92

00:57:46.420 a situation like that where it needs to come up again and if you don't have someone actually out

00:57:51.260 there articulating it and organizations building it up you are going to lose and this ideology and

00:57:56.700 by the way thanks to the internet right this crap isn't just stuck in like san francisco and the

00:58:01.060 inner city and stuff no it's it's it's in every single school board of the entire country and then 0.99

00:58:06.600 thanks to the migration policies you've got illegal alien pedophile gang rape gangs running through 0.95

00:58:13.380 midgy minnesota so if you think that like oh it's just something i don't have to worry about 1.00

00:58:18.840 yeah just wait until the migrants show up in your neighborhood and start gang raping your children 1.00

00:58:23.480 then you're going to worry about it so in in if you go deep into mexico i mean deep right and the 0.97

00:58:30.000 cartels control everything there was a story recently i heard from someone that works for us who has

00:58:34.200 family in mexico where a guy uh raped a nine-year-old and the police you know get their hand on this uh

00:58:42.060 pedophile and he's in the police house this happens all the time in mexico and the cartels just came into 0.93

00:58:46.880 the police house it was like no we're taking them and yeah they cut that guy's nuts off strung them 0.93

00:58:52.240 up and killed them in the public square and left them there for a week taliban started as pedophile 0.91

00:58:56.540 killers too no and i'm not saying that's what that's actually why they got so popular but i'm not saying 0.95

00:59:00.720 that's what we do here but what the point is that white liberals that go to college is like well we must 0.93

00:59:05.980 feel sorry for the pedophile and you look at it like you must be taught this is what i'm saying is that

00:59:11.940 at the most fundamental like existence the third world they don't put up with this stuff right 0.99

00:59:16.380 they're this is not something that is considered normal or acceptable you look at what is the

00:59:23.000 commonality of every single one of these people right now the blogger in philly the young lady that

00:59:27.400 got raped is it true that that young lady who is the tech ceo forbes 30 under 30 or whatever 1.00

00:59:32.040 that she held the elevator for her killer is that right in her building she let him she also had 0.95

00:59:37.280 and let him in her elevator and she had you know so so if she was racist she was probably still alive 1.00

00:59:42.900 think about this if she would have been racist she'd still be living number number 95 show it again 0.98

00:59:47.500 and if she would have charlie is pattern 100 yeah there you go no no no this is a this is a thought

00:59:52.240 crime if she would have been a bigot she'd still be breathing yeah got it but remember just like in

00:59:58.980 just like in brooklyn to cross the street is racist lack of no but think about it so those two people on

01:00:04.140 the street well it was obama criticized his grandmother i believe for being someone who

01:00:08.440 would cross the street he did he saw an ominous looking person that's exactly right i remember

01:00:14.280 there was like a radio interview don't believe you're lying eyes she was a typical white person

01:00:18.820 i think is what he said she was a typical i'm not making a defense for bigotry or racism i'm just

01:00:23.000 what i am saying though is that there's worse crimes where's worse things than bigotry or racism

01:00:26.980 fear of strange black men 1.00

01:00:28.360 okay charlie what you're touching on is actually deeply profound to the american psyche how i'll

01:00:37.540 never forget i was at a bar it was like a cigar lounge in la i'll leave the name off the guy the

01:00:43.840 guy's a cuban guy who owns it uh actually michael knolls had been in there i found that out that night

01:00:48.140 but the point is um he it was beloved this this guy everybody loved this guy and i was talking to him

01:00:55.640 and he was he was making fun of how much americans care about racism he's like oh in cuba we just call

01:01:02.020 a spade a spade about all this stuff but the american psyche is so conditioned to put you know this

01:01:10.220 accusation of racism and why it's been such an effective cudgel against those uh of us on the

01:01:15.440 right for years is that if you call somebody a a racist it's you know like a death sentence i think

01:01:21.180 that that era is changing slowly but yeah i mean nobody's defending it let me let me let me just

01:01:27.240 like interrupt like if you're a single white female in an urban area and you see a 22 year old black guy

01:01:32.520 that wants to get into your building and you have like maybe a pattern recognition honestly god bless

01:01:37.960 you for not letting that guy into the building okay he has to wait for the next person you're still alive

01:01:41.620 but no instead she's like well i don't want to be called a racist let the revolution continue oh he 0.71

01:01:47.320 comes in and rapes you and kills you maybe a little bit of noticing would have been good 0.99

01:01:51.580 you'd still be alive pattern recognition saves lives what i'm getting at though is they're so 0.96

01:01:59.300 afraid of violating the the on what it's almost like the unforgivable sin of america right it's not

01:02:07.100 blaspheming the holy spirit or taking the lord's name in vain it is thou shalt not have a racist thought

01:02:12.140 right and it's uniquely american i mean i'm not saying that australia that's correct britain

01:02:17.220 don't have similar sort of things or whatever built into their society ethics but america because

01:02:22.780 of the civil war because of slavery and and you know what's funny is that so much of that is astroturf

01:02:28.660 if you want to flip everything on its head how about we say it like this no america sacrificed 600 000

01:02:35.160 people to writing that wrong yes no you know what america uh you know the west in general

01:02:41.840 ended slavery right i mean there's some serious slavery was endemic until the british empire got

01:02:47.520 rid of it well they're still selling slaves in africa they're still selling slaves in africa so i'm just

01:02:53.220 saying it's like we have been so conditioned and brainwashed from from the from a very young age to

01:02:59.980 think this way and it's actually all bs i'm not saying that racism isn't wrong it's not real sure but

01:03:06.660 like the vast majority of this what we call racism is what you know what we just diagnosed as

01:03:11.400 pattern recognition you know god help us for for wanting to protect our family from something

01:03:16.300 and also it's just not even close three percent of the population does 60 of the murders it's three

01:03:21.500 percent yeah because it's you know it's not even just you know the usual one is that you know black 0.98

01:03:27.180 americans commit more murders but it's even narrower than that it's you know if you take black men like 1.00

01:03:32.780 15 to 26 or so that is the range where the huge proportion of america's you know murders robberies 0.97

01:03:41.460 everything you know if you're women mostly don't commit too many crimes and just like when you're 1.00

01:03:45.700 old you mellow out you stop committing crimes or you're in jail for crimes you've already committed

01:03:49.420 so jack i'll be very honest i do not have the spirit the gusto or the interest in columbus day why

01:03:55.160 should i care the floor is yours well charlie do you do you care about a little something called the

01:04:00.680 united states of america do you care about a little something called the west do you care about a

01:04:05.420 little bit something called the country in which we live that we are trying to save every day well

01:04:10.000 none of that would exist if it wasn't for the man himself christopher columbus and the real question

01:04:15.520 that i have is christopher columbus was he a hero or a superhero personally for me i'm gonna go in the

01:04:23.540 superhero column the man who was trying to find gold in order to fund another crusade to win over

01:04:31.820 the holy land the same way that king ferdinand had just kicked the moors out of spain in the

01:04:37.160 reconquista they were eventually trying to kick the moors and their brethren out of the holy land

01:04:42.680 in the same year by the way the reconquista ended blake what year 1492 what else happened that year blake

01:04:49.600 columbus sailed the ocean blue every it's amazing right see it all it all fits it right but how many

01:04:56.240 people told you that it was directly tied to the reconquista of spain uh the re-christianization of

01:05:03.540 spain of bringing christianity to the new world which they later found out it was the new world and then

01:05:08.980 hopefully the create the finding of gold in order to fund a new crusade against the holy land which i mean

01:05:15.120 there's so many different things that are tied into this that just get completely taken out and look

01:05:21.200 look at how many cities in this country we've got named after columbus look at how many statues uh there

01:05:26.600 our capital city is called the district of columbia based on columbus here's it here's one for a pop

01:05:32.620 pop quiz for anybody out there what is the statue on top of the united states capitol building

01:05:37.240 it's probably christopher columbus and it's probably some woman named columbia

01:05:42.080 well it's it's the woman columbia who is the stylized you know sort of goddess of america

01:05:47.880 based on britannia who was the you know sort of the stylized goddess of great britain and then so

01:05:54.800 this is but again based on columbus because the original name for america which was very highly

01:06:01.900 favored among even a number of the founding fathers was to call our country columbia uh based on the on

01:06:08.060 the heroism and the exploits of christopher columbus and so and i see people will say like

01:06:12.900 what about eric the red what about you know uh you know what about the fact that he just got lost and

01:06:18.220 it's like you're you're completely you're completely missing the actual impact of the man's accomplishments

01:06:27.300 in life and the absolute world historic change that it had on basically the entire planet and

01:06:35.560 the trajectory of humanity all right if you like that that's the italian propaganda blake why is he

01:06:40.280 right i mean here's the counter because columbus day columbus day is just the 1800s version of

01:06:45.460 juneteenth which is america had a ton of italian immigrants they were a controversial addition to the 0.91

01:06:51.960 united states they were sometimes associated with urban you know urban crime problems and such

01:06:57.540 and you know they were like okay we need to placate them with a holiday and so in a way columbus day is

01:07:04.940 just the 1800s version of june juneteenth like do people really celebrate columbus day founding fathers

01:07:10.840 confirmed i mean those founding fathers if you can point to me towards the founding fathers celebrating

01:07:16.900 columbus day as a federal holiday i'll i'm not sure i'm celebrating columbus day i'm talking about

01:07:20.740 celebrating columbus and columbus's accomplishment which is very so what i will say is that the the

01:07:26.160 columbus was a deeply faithful man some of the writings uh some of the writings from columbus

01:07:32.760 you know people i don't know i think they would criticize him as a you know you know genocide against

01:07:39.600 the natives these are some like you know i want to ask about that yeah some of the comments that people

01:07:44.560 will make this way and that way if you read his writings and you are a believing spirit-filled christian

01:07:50.280 and you read columbus's writings you will instantly know that his faith was authentic

01:07:55.300 his faith was almost spirit-filled so profound and i believe god absolutely providentially um led

01:08:03.440 columbus i have zero doubt in my mind just about three minutes blake is there any truth to the blanket

01:08:08.120 thing the blanket thing not by columbus uh that was allegedly done as a war tactic in the 1700s uh it

01:08:14.600 was uh lord jeffrey amherst namesake of amherst college they're very upset about that one today of

01:08:19.260 course uh but he's allegedly the one who did it during the french and indian war i believe

01:08:23.660 oh columbia university there's another one yeah columbia there's columbia stuff yeah i mean overall

01:08:28.020 obviously it's fun to say you know it's 1800s juneteenth but yes like we should you know celebrate

01:08:33.820 columbus because ultimately columbus discovering america was it was a good thing if only because it

01:08:38.920 led to the creation of the united states of america the greatest country in the history of the world of

01:08:43.880 course and it created the modern world that we just we cannot comprehend the world that is as it

01:08:50.120 exists without columbus being the guy who decided to uh miscalculate the size of the world think he

01:08:55.320 could sail to china in less time than it would actually take and he you know ran into america

01:09:00.180 and you know it created the modern world we're all going to eat the foods that created we're going to live

01:09:06.700 under the uh society and just he created he actually created the global world essentially

01:09:13.760 before that it was just a bunch of uh continents far separated and it is because of columbus's legacy

01:09:20.360 that we live in a world that is fully interconnected and is western in orientation not eastern not middle

01:09:26.680 eastern not anything else all right closing thoughts guys we have lots to get to uh got to hit the road

01:09:33.320 head to florida any closing thoughts jack christopher columbus was a brave italian explorer

01:09:40.280 and in this house christopher columbus is a hero and the story

01:09:44.480 great everybody email us freedom at charlie kirk.com subscribe to our podcast that was a really

01:09:53.240 great episode i got to say we got into some some pretty good stuff there and we're gonna have some

01:09:58.520 guests coming up on the charlie kirk show c taylor that is going to uh help fill in

01:10:03.160 the blanks of noticing god bless keep committing thought crimes

01:10:09.640 thought crime is death

01:10:33.160 yeah

01:10:41.640 everyone is

01:10:43.980 having

01:10:44.100 we're still doing

01:10:46.700 again

01:10:48.120 yesterday

01:10:48.480 we're going to tired of preaching

01:10:50.380 not

01:10:52.380 mic

01:10:53.640 i'm

01:10:55.720 certainly

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 07, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 16 — House Speaker Trump？ Mocking the Dead？ Columbus, Hero or Hero？

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