THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 16 — House Speaker Trump? Mocking the Dead? Columbus, Hero or Hero?
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1 hour and 10 minutes
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193.83171
Summary
This week, the House of Commons is without a speaker of the house, and we finally find out what s actually making House republicans upset, and it's not just the locking up of our own people by the government, it's the use of the nuclear option.
Transcript
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from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you
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dnsa specifically targets the communications of everyone
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okay everybody hello it is thought crimes what episode number is this
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incredibly enough wow andrew welcome blake and of course jack posobik
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welcome ladies and gentlemen we finally found out something that actually makes house republicans
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upset is it is it the locking up of our own people no no is it sending hundreds of billions of dollars
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to ukraine in a proxy war no no no no no it's it's it's uh parliamentary changes inside the house
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apparently that that is what makes them upset so it is sometimes we have to debate of what is the lead
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it's not even a close question this week there is no speaker of the house jack you and i kind of saw
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this coming i think it would be helpful for our audience to give a layer deeper that we're not
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always able to share on our shows jack you and i were on a series of group text messages right when
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i turned off for you know shabbat i kind of saw this boiling up i was starting to get incoming
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from you know the gates crew right people that were saying hey this is going in a bad direction we're
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going to do motion to vacate i remember some of the people i know in mccarthy world said oh he's
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just bluffing it's not going to happen here we are a week later kevin mccarthy is not speaker
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jack let's fill in you know some of the the underground chatter that you and i have been privy to
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as we saw this bubbling up to the surface yeah so a lot of this and and charlie you've done a great
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job of covering it this week on your show and huge props to you because um you know this is something
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where it's it's it pays to be super in the weeds on things and that's something where i think you
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know charlie with your perch not only where you are in politics but having turning point your your ear
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into a lot of different places it just really lends itself to these situations because it's easy to sit
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on the outside and i see a lot of people just throwing bombs and saying oh yeah throw the bums
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out get rid of them get rid of this guy get rid of that guy but you're also missing the intricacies
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of how it actually works how it plays out the different interests the different factions and that's
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something where even myself just listening to the charlie kirk show this week it's like wow this is the
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one place where you can really get all of it because on some shows you know you'll hear oh gates is a
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traitor gates is evil gates is the worst and then you go on other shows and it's like gates is the
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greatest patriot he's the he is the the next george washington is what it's like all right can
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someone just explain to me what's actually going on and that's what i found with listening to charlie
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i don't mean that just to blow you up i really do think you did a great job and the reason though
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that people need to understand this better though is because the situation became as as jack cashel said
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in his great book recently on a different although on a different subject uh it became untenable
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right it became untenable because you had the grassroots that were so incensed at the lack
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of action and so upset that they can see the government uh locking people up the fbi starting
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in a new a new task force just this week and then bragging about it with their leaking their own story
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to newsweek uh essentially writing a press release for them saying we've started a new task force to go
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after maga and then you go to the house and you say what are you guys actually doing about any of this
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oh we've got a big investigation it's very important press release very important letter
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that's being written just you wait you know the next letter is coming out and people are just
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getting fed up people are just getting sick and it's getting worse and worse so we saw essentially
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this civil war brewing because that being said uh gop leadership still has uh considerable and
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significant resources that they will be bringing to bear and i don't think that they thought matt
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gates was willing to go through that turns out that he actually is so gates effectively pressed
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the nuclear button i call it the nuclear option and now here's the interesting wrinkle on in all of
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this and we we covered on human events earlier today that anyone who wants to be speaker whether
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it's scalise whether it's jordan whether it's donald trump etc they're essentially walking into a
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situation where they know that maga and the grassroots and gates representing the grassroots by proxy
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is exercising command by negation whereby in there's nothing to stop him from doing this again next week
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next month six months from now so anyone who has to come in guess what you got to make a deal
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that's why donald trump is going to congress so so blake let's do this and by the way jack we're
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going to reconnect your audio we could hear you but it's not as pure as it should be so we're going to
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work with the team on that but uh blake andrew and i are going to carry this forward right now
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so so blake you and i were chatting a little bit over the weekend last week and so is andrew andrew
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you were on a lot of these messages too and because you know we're kind of an intersection
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of all roads where you know i've been very clear i have you know i've been gotten along with kevin
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mccarthy for years i disagree with how he's handled the debt ceiling and also the cr but he's treated our
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turning point students and leaders really really well and this kind of thing was bubbling up and i
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remember i sent a message to one person in kind of mccarthy world i was like guys this is becoming real
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like this this and you know either blake or andrew you could take it andrew maybe because
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you're also getting his message i andrew do you think that they actually believed that this motion
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to vacate would have been successful i had a private conversation with matt gates on sunday
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when i reopened my phone i had literally had 682 text messages remember andrew the message i sent
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i said so what's going on like on sunday afternoon i talked to matt gates on the phone he said oh kevin's
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gonna get bailed out by the democrats he'll still be speaker but it's still a good message to send
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andrew is this the dog catching the car yeah i think it was charlie i you know i think they were
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going to give it their best shot um a lot of people a lot of reporters have been texting me saying is
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this just about personal animus is this matt gates trying to be you know famous or whatever and i'm
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like a matt gates is already a media darling i don't care whatever anybody says uh he's been
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highlighted on conservative media and cnn msnbc all this for years he's very articulate and i think
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he does not see the end of his career being in congress right a lot of people speculated i think
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he's even confirmed that he wants to run for governor eventually in the state of florida but he'll be damned
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if he's going to leave things the status quo as he found them he's also in a very secure district i think
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he won 70 30 so he's one of those guys that is not only extremely conservative especially fiscally
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conservative he's he's not only ballsy the guy has you know guts for days the guy is is totally
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courageous not like these other squishes on capitol hill um but i don't think he exactly knew how this
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was going to play out a lot of us who were skeptical said gates your qualms are real the gripes are
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real washington's out of control 2.2 trillion dollar deficits are not sustainable ukraine what
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the hell and so it's it kind of left us in this place where i think our base and our audience were
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looking for us to go yeah go gates and it was kind of like well we get where he's coming from we love
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the guy we think he's he's fantastic in a lot of ways but what's the end game is is kevin mccarthy
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the best that we will get uh and and that remains to be seen um but this whole call from newt gingrich
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uh calling them traitors the eight traitors that is completely out of line yeah and i think we've
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been very morally clear on our show haven't we andrew i think we've been oh yeah no 100 percent
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newt is somebody who's come on the charlie kirk show multiple times i like newt i think you wrote
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he's just yeah you wrote an endorsement for his last book um but yeah i mean i think newt is looking
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at people like speaker pelosi before uh you know when the house was a democrat majority and saying she
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ruled with an iron fist nobody crossed her we need to get that on the gop side i think that's
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wrong the gop is is is a rowdy group it's an independent-minded group we're not collectivists
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we're not communists we don't think in a block there are factions and clans within the conservative
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movement i think yes matt gates is probably surprised this worked out but he's probably overjoyed
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and here's here i'll leave it with this if we get a jim jordan out of this or a speaker trump
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i mean that's certainly a possibility as it stands today if we get those two outcomes here
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this will have proven matt gates to be a absolute genius massive success if we get somebody like an
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emmer or a even a scalise who's i've heard it described as diet mccarthy i think then we are
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going to find ourselves in a world of hurt and you know people are going to start pointing the finger
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even more at gates yeah i i'm i receive angry emails about this i think we will not know whether or
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matt was right based on whether or not hakeem jeffries becomes speaker in january 25 you must
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hold on to power in the town of dc right blake exactly i think you know andrew mentions the
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factions that's very real i mean we've got a republican study committee you've got freedom
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caucus you have you know random wild cards and every single one of those matters because again
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we don't have a strong majority we have what is it 222 seats we have a majority of five votes and
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one of those is george santos who at any time you know could be hauled off to god knows where yeah
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and so that means everyone you know everyone does get a voice but it does mean everyone gets a voice
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it means matt gates and five friends can blow up the house speakership but it also means the five most
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liberal house members could blow up a jordan speakers exactly and they're going to and we have
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to understand that this the game is on right and there's i think that's why you know i i also disagree
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with what newt said but you can see the frustration that's boiling over there that there's all these
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republicans who remember it took us weeks to figure out who our speaker is going to be last january
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and it was really like only mccarthy can unite them is that a good thing is that a disappointing thing
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you can definitely argue it's a real thing it's a real thing it took them weeks to do this it was
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really tough there's no one else there's no obvious plan b if you they've been these republicans
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have been giving statements where they say there are 15 different options on the table yeah there's
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scalise yeah there's jordan but there's a lot of secondary players and if anyone claims they know
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exactly what's going to happen they're kidding themselves that was the deal is there was one guy
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who could basically unite the caucus and we've just thrown him out and anything's on the table and
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i agree jim jordan would be a good speaker but i think among other things there's going to be
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a non-zero number of republicans who are going to say we're not going to reward matt gates
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by giving him you know a speaker who's more in his direction over this tantrum that he threw that's
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what they would call it and that just sets up the room for a lot of bitterness we've had these claims
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that you know they're on the brink of uh you know a fisticuffs that are going to fight each other
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well that's that's not good yeah yeah get that clip and uh once we have it to clip 72 yeah play
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rep garrett graves tell cnn's jake tapper there have been fistfights if we didn't recess
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do you agree with uh congressman mchenry's decision he's the the temporary speaker the
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speaker potem to put a pause on the week to let tensions uh settle uh jake i'll be really candid i
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think if we had stayed together uh in the meeting last night i think that you would have seen fist
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thrown and i'm not being dramatic when i say that there is a lot of raw emotions right now i think
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it was best to let folks go back home decompress a little bit and then come back together
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so yeah like that's the situation that we've set up here is we have multiple factions in the house
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we've essentially politically assassinated the one often disappointing figure who is at the head of it
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and we're in uncharted territory and i do admit you know we've we've said we like mccarthy's always
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treated us well but i do think strategically there's certain he made some huge mistakes the
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most obvious to me is the january 6 footage yeah he said he'd release it what is the story with this
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i don't know that that could have quelled the rebellion it's just it was always over and over
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people would complain and that's what always signal the sort of bad like he didn't mean to keep the
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deal it was always like it's gonna come out let's play this out one second andrew if
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one second if if mccarthy blake would have called gates into his office the day of the cr and said
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here's all the footage do you think he'd still be speaker i think it would have made it a lot harder
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for gates to what do you think andrew let's just play that out what do you think so i i just wanted
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to give some inside baseball i texted a couple um staffers about the j6 footage and their answer to
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me was it's already out now i i i i had i pushed back and said i don't think it's all all out and
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they said they pointed me to this new blaze story and blake i can send it to you so you can throw it
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up on the screen if you want um there is sort of some some you know breaking you know reporting i it
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hasn't been uh widely you know covered just yet uh but but it is it is out and i'll pull that up for
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you in just a sec but i i do want to say you know blake blake you said we we got rid of the guy one
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guy that can unite the caucus i think the bottom line is mccarthy's mistakes strategically first on
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the debt ceiling uh secondly on the shutdown fight were just too grievous um and now you you hear a lot
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of people on either side of that debate say oh he lived up to his promises and then they say no he
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didn't i mean at the end of the day he caved you know i think if he would i think the one thing that
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could have saved him the one thing that could have saved him was shut the shut the government down show
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that you're willing to fight for something real when he chose to sort of capitulate and be the quote
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unquote adult in the room uh that signal the way the way he said it too i think bothered a lot of
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people i think you're you're basically inferring that the people who could displace you as a
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speaker are children for wanting to balance the budget or not even balance the budget not have a
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two trillion dollar deficit yeah it's there was it sucks because we did get one thing that was good
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which is they didn't give more money to ukraine but that was the weakest one because we immediately
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had reports that oh they're gonna stick it back in mccarthy supposedly made these promises
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and that's the only win we had and so you needed something and again it was if you pair that with
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okay well now we'll bring up the article that supposedly they did uh release the rest of the
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footage but if they did they didn't they didn't make a lot of noise about it they they could have
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really hyped it up they he handled it badly and man all these stupid pop-ups that happen on these
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websites yeah he started well though right when he gave it to tucker carlson and then that i mean
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that was a massive massive news story it must have been intercepted by the intel agencies that's
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the is jack back on jack what what why did kevin mccarthy here we hear how's the audio good yes jack
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we hear you so so jack what no one told me no you're fine so jack why is it that kevin mccarthy
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never released the footage i mean what we were saying is a hypothetical the j6 footage kevin mccarthy
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is going to do this cr he knows that his right flank is coming from he's underestimating that threat
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what if hypothetical he would have brought gates and good and all these guys in a room and said
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here's a hard drive guys 45 days keep me a speaker this is a big deal for you right do whatever you
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want with it do you think he would still be speaker of the house look i think there are so many things
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like that i think the j6 footage i think even even for me it's it's more than just the j6 footage okay
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and and i've said this before in terms of where i think we should go from now but uh one of the big
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things that a lot of us said going into the new house gup before the speakers even even decided was
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don't close the jan 6 committee keep it open but restructure it so that it becomes under our control and
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then it's an investigate a real investigation into what happened on jan 6 so it's a more comprehensive
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answer to the same question because yes then it gets you full access to the video plus investigators
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you bring in darren beaty you bring in julie kelly you bring in everybody that's involved this whole
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thing and then what do you start issuing subpoenas you start subpoenaing people that they don't want
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us to talk to you start bringing people in actually get to the situation where we can have those cross
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examinations that didn't happen under pelosi look the democrats understand theater they understand
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political theatrics they understand now does it persuade our side no but their side loves it
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their side is enthralled with it and then you know what there were even people like steve bannon who when
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they refused to speak to that committee then got referred to congress and you had snakes like
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nancy mace who went along with it and then steve bannon had to go on trial and is now facing
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four months in jail because he refused to submit to nancy pelosi's committee
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why didn't we have anything like that on our side we had nothing like that there is this i want to i want
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to introduce another interesting angle here jack and andrew blake whoever so there's this um talking
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point jack you've heard it tucker carlson famously said on his program that kevin mccarthy would
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climb through a sewer of glass just to be speaker of the house right blake he wanted to have his portrait
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he wanted to be a guy who has you know next to nancy pelosi and then john bainer a little bit over
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yes kevin mccarthy was a speaker of the united states house just like henry clay and sam rayburn
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before him he wanted to be speaker i think that he was almost what defined his career was i want to be
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in charge i want to be student class president right and that was kind of well known right jack in dc
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circles but is now a new truth that has emerged did kevin was he did he want to not violate that's a
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double negative how do i how did i word it there was something kevin didn't want to be as much as
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speaker he didn't want to violate the regime because if he would have shut down the government
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and released the j6 tapes he would still be speaker maybe maybe he caught the car too it was like you
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know matt gates caught the car of drumming him out what do you mean by that well so kevin mccarthy
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wanted to be speaker and then he caught he caught the car he became the speaker he was like i don't
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want it that way this sucks this is terrible we were joking andrew when he became speaker and we said
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yeah sure you want the job right and because it's a four-seat majority and you're ideologically
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not necessarily in line with the people that you have to lead right andrew yeah i mean i think the
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the history when it's written about mccarthy's speakership is that he essentially had to sell
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away any security that he might have otherwise had in order to attain the speakership in the first
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place so now the big debate is about this can one member of the house bring about a motion to vacate
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right and so that's why you have mitch mcconnell going on and saying i want to thank speaker mccarthy
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you've been a tremendous uh uniparty puppet just like me but you know if i could give one word of
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advice to the incoming speaker you know you got to change that rule right and then you had you had
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jim jordan i saw him on with you know fox and friends and kill me and said are you going to get
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rid of it and then meanwhile you had matt gates uh saying you know he was asked right after speaker
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mccarthy was ousted he did a little press gaggle outside of the capitol and one of the questions were
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were you know will you accept the new speaker without this single member being able to bring
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up a motion to vacate and he said absolutely not so you've got matt gates saying he will not approve
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the next speaker without a single member motion to vacate clause meanwhile you have all the
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establishment voices saying get rid of this thing and jim jordan i think did a good job he said in his
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answer he said you know listen that's something the conference is going to have to debate and come to
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an agreement on but i i have a feeling that is going to ultimately be the big sticking point
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the question is can jim jordan who matt gates defines as his mentor can he well gates to say
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that you need two members i mean obviously gates has eight people with him right now so why don't
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you just say well you need eight votes you need eight votes to bring a motion of eight kate if not
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then yeah here's here's here's the next element sorry to interrupt andrew the establishment the
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regime they're they're pissed that's what's used thought crime language right i mean you see these
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messages i see it publicly and privately they're going to want to redefine the congress in their
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image they're they're not going to do anything that good and gates luna donalds and roy want to do
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right blake of course not they're they're really at a minimum they're really annoyed that he just
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went and you know at a minimum we've we'll spend a week on this we could spend many weeks it could
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just be essentially derail everything they had planned for this fall good or bad and it's all
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for a guy who as we mentioned you know he's this is not the end of his career he's uh i'm not sure
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if he's officially announced yet he's running for governor he probably will very heavily rumored at
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minimum and so you know he sees his career as either a different office or you know hosting you
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maybe he wants to host a talk show or some other program and that's his future and he sees this
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essentially as a way to increase his fame and so all of these guys who are in the house for the
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long haul are like this guy who he's basically using the house as his personal you know bully
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launching pad his launching pad and well this is a chamber of the united states government that has
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to pass legislation and it's not just a fox news show it is not just yeah it's not just a fox news
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show it's not just a bully pulpit so so jack let me ask you a provocative question here since this
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is thought crimes this never would have happened with boehner this never would have happened with
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pelosi is there an argument to be had that mccarthy was not machiavellian enough in creating oppo files
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threatening blackmail and basically telling dissident rebellious members from the beginning i will
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destroy your life if you walk out of line well i suppose you could say that to an extent if not for
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the fact that matt gates has already had pretty much all the oppo possible drop that's the irony
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the last couple of years right so what could you possibly put out in terms of oppo to hang over
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this guy's head that hasn't already been put out over the i don't even know i don't remember exactly
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i think 2020 i guess is when it really started 2021 but was the spring of 2021 when they said that he
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was under doj investigation for sex trafficking it was february or march of 21 yeah and then there's
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already an ethics investigation open on him currently so all of this stuff is going on and he just keeps
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not he keeps not going on so yes you could make that argument maybe but with gates it's i don't
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know what else you could do it's already all out there well jack on that note we have a we have a
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senator uh mark wayne mullen uh do we want to play it but yeah let's play it no no i just want to say
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i i'm the matt gates denies all these allegations this is just a flavor of a taste we played it on our
00:23:28.540
show and i felt uncomfortable playing it because it felt like tabloidy crap but this is a u.s senator
00:23:33.800
who by the way is an ally of mcconnell this is not like ran paul right who's so obviously this u.s
00:23:39.660
senator is just communicating the oppo basically they're coming after matt gates hard they're not
00:23:44.660
going to lay off of this sort of narrative right they're basically going to say matt gates is hugh
00:23:49.440
hefner and they're gonna by the way listen carefully he says underage girl in this video
00:23:54.680
okay what tape is this ryan i thought it was like 30 yeah play that please play it you gotta think
00:24:00.640
about this guy um this is a guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a time of day to after
00:24:05.860
he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl there's a reason why no one and the conference
00:24:11.560
came defended him because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of
00:24:16.580
us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with he'd brag about how he would crush ed medicine
00:24:21.940
and and and chase it with um with an energy drink so he could go all night this is obviously before
00:24:28.300
you got married and so when that accusation came out no one defended him and then no one on the media
00:24:32.840
would give him a time of the day all of a sudden he found fame because he opposed the speaker of the
00:24:37.340
house like it kind of makes me think obviously he denies it although it does make me think of the old
00:24:45.240
uh the alice cooper anecdote where he got he supposedly bit the head off a chicken on stage
00:24:49.980
and he actually did not and denied it uh that he bit a head off a bat and i think he literally did
00:24:56.320
it i can't remember but alice cooper supposedly bit the head off a chicken and then frank zappa calls
00:25:00.940
him he's like i don't care what you actually did don't deny it under any circumstances and that's
00:25:06.460
what alice cooper lived his entire career doing and now it's like so he didn't you know admittedly like
00:25:10.720
the videos he supposedly was sharing which he denies like not with underage girls sort of like
00:25:15.740
do you want to you know if you're doing this all to get famous anyway just sort of like be evasive
00:25:19.640
about everything and just say like people say a lot of things about me a lot of these things are
00:25:23.460
unfair and i mean don't you think it's kind of like gates has a little bit of that trump uh ability
00:25:29.520
where it's kind of baked into the cake that yeah we know you were a bit of a lothario you know you had
00:25:35.120
a relationship with what is it cassidy hutchinson she denies it like like you know gates is married
00:25:41.400
though now even even senator mark wayne mullin said you know he admitted he's like obviously this
00:25:45.800
was before he was married i think you know listen i think we're socially conservative uh on the show
00:25:52.220
safe to say however it's also baked into the cake with matt gates that he's not as socially
00:25:57.800
conservative and this was just the way he was before he was married i think everybody knows that about
00:26:02.940
him um do we excuse it what's that he's like silvio berlusconi in italy where silvio berlusconi
00:26:11.020
is this you know right wing leader in italy he'll even you know support all of these or the argentinian
00:26:16.180
guy yeah he'll even support socially conservative policies as does the argentine guy the guy's like
00:26:19.860
yeah i'm very pro-life anti-abortion and he's a polygamist he yeah he's like a polygamist who uh
00:26:26.200
i think he's pro-drug and yeah and he does he does like weird um daoist stuff yes very all very
00:26:33.620
strange and same with berlusconi and you just you lean into it i'm a colorful character and it's like
00:26:37.940
what i personally do is not the same as the policies that i support and you just build the legend up i
00:26:42.980
mean and that's gates in a nutshell it's just kind of like like can we stop acting like a bunch of
00:26:50.160
losers all the time like i'm sick of this whole like oh we're the republicans we're the ned flanders
00:26:55.980
party hi didlarino uh neighborino did you get the game did you see the you know what happened what the
00:27:03.020
was going on with the church moms this week like like hand the mic over to martin shkreli hand the
00:27:09.560
mic over to donald trump hand the mic over to matt gates a little bit and you guys you'll sit there
00:27:14.640
and you'll say you know mark wayne mullen he's a guy from oklahoma it's the first time he's ever
00:27:18.100
caught a promo in his life i think the last time he did anything uh that he actually stood up for
00:27:22.920
was regulating ufc if you guys remember that bill he was trying to push a while back it's like oh let's
00:27:27.620
let's get in there and regulate ufc because this is too too dangerous you know remember when uh john
00:27:32.640
mccain used to say that crap too it's like these guys are such losers and they wonder why they
00:27:37.600
completely lost the culture they wonder why nobody takes them seriously they wonder why they just sit
00:27:43.120
and they hector you like a bunch of school marms seriously i'm sick of this party
00:27:47.980
this is why i got out of politics and totally quit politics a long time ago before the trump
00:27:52.760
movement so i didn't vote for romney so i didn't vote for mccain it's just ridiculous i'm sick of
00:27:57.740
the old gop i'm sick of this crap so let's let's close this up then do we like trump as speaker jack
00:28:03.480
posobic i mean it's more kind of a fun topic of what this would look like dan crenshaw is not going
00:28:09.720
to vote for trump as speaker okay let's just be honest right uh i mean dusty johnson don bacon right
00:28:15.580
but it's a fun thought exercise right blake the way it happens the way it happens there it is right
00:28:22.120
there yeah trump yeah just the way it happens is they they bring it up and it starts voting and
00:28:26.820
then they're halfway through and then some of the the democrats just say yeah i vote i vote trump as
00:28:31.520
speaker i want to see what happens when that occurs and they lean into it and they're like yeah
00:28:35.540
full chaos mode and admittedly i can imagine a lot of funny imagery one you buy him a gavel that's two or
00:28:41.460
three times as big as a normal one just give him the you just gavel ever two just imagine imagine
00:28:46.340
we're getting uh you know every time they hold a vote vote trump's like let's have a nice clean fair
00:28:52.080
vote unlike the 2020 election which was rigged and then you have the speaker of the house election
00:28:58.400
uh or that's that's the state of the union address he could either just cancel he has to invite biden to
00:29:04.720
give the speech he would just give it himself he could give it himself he could say here's the real
00:29:08.560
state of the union up up yours biden and i apologize for my terrible trump accent by the way
00:29:13.680
or we get the normal state of the union and he's seated right next to kamala behind biden you're
00:29:19.420
making all of his facial expressions during during the speech there's a lot of potential here and i
00:29:25.220
admit it is so ridiculous to imagine but i wanted to occur hold on i won't hold on a second jack this
00:29:32.300
obviously plays to all of trump's strengths right parliamentarian issues detail you know sitting
00:29:38.260
in rooms for six to seven hours on end organizing people you disagree with to try to have concessions
00:29:45.020
on micro policy debates about the abstractions of corporate tax cuts these obviously all those
00:29:51.640
things obviously play to trump's strengths no see what i what i think trump is actually doing here
00:29:56.760
is this is classic art of the deal right it's a threat so he's threatening that he'll put himself
00:30:02.620
up for speaker and oh by the way threatening that he'll reach out to his entire army right as as
00:30:10.220
newsweek calls it and the fbi call apparently army of trump supporters through email and text messages
00:30:15.580
can you imagine the text messages right your member of congress is refusing to support me for speaker
00:30:21.960
here's their phone number you need to call them immediately you need to get them on the horn why do you
00:30:28.040
refuse imagine that in every single republican district in this country going no so what he's
00:30:33.060
doing is he's threatening them and then he's basically coming back to saying all right i'll
00:30:37.340
remove the threat if you agree to maga terms and you have to agree to those terms number one to get the
00:30:43.960
trump threat to go away but then number two also to help him with with the election endorsements etc
00:30:50.080
there's so many things he can use with this and then number three you still have matt gates out
00:30:54.240
there with the potential of the mega nuclear option the command by negation he could do this
00:30:59.500
whenever he wants the real thing that's very interesting by the way is the fact that not a
00:31:04.480
single person has asked what's ron de santis's opinion on the on the situation opinion on the speaker
00:31:09.780
question and that is because the governor has reduced himself into complete political irrelevancy
00:31:14.900
so andrew trump for speaker you know i gotta admit i there's a part of me that really loves it i think
00:31:25.240
to blake's point i can just see the i mean let's be honest dc is a complete circus it's clown show
00:31:30.760
uh and he can be the barnum and bailey of all of it and i think you know there's a part of me that
00:31:37.180
that that would enjoy the chaos just because how how could it get any worse and actually maybe he would
00:31:43.240
be surprisingly good at it when you talk about the art of the deal getting people
00:31:47.020
together on the same page that disagree with each other he's actually pretty good at that
00:31:52.460
some of his i would say worst outcomes as president were probably because he actually enjoys you know
00:31:59.300
making friends with schumer and things like that so that's maybe you could look at it as a weakness
00:32:03.680
or a strength um i think when you talk about detail um when you talk about parliamentary i'm kidding
00:32:10.780
i'm just saying speaker of the house is an awful job let's just be honest like yeah no i completely
00:32:14.660
agree you have to sit in subcommittee meetings and you have to get like yelled at by bow tie guy because
00:32:19.980
page 84 has you know a section three has some sort of regulatory issue and trump would be like
00:32:28.740
forget it you're the worst i used to like you take that stupid bow tie off now you're it's just like
00:32:34.420
not exactly it's not exactly he's a macro guy can we all agree trump is macro right um
00:32:40.620
and this the speaker of the house is both macro and micro where you have to you it's babysitting
00:32:46.300
217 people right blake exactly exactly just imagine him trying to corral them you know for
00:32:51.740
the caucus meetings even just like the basic fact the house will now meet at bedminster yeah he's
00:32:57.480
just he's gonna either force him to leave dc or he'd have to go to dc which he probably doesn't
00:33:01.360
want to do he barely doesn't even have a hotel anymore yeah and it's all right i wonder if there's
00:33:07.080
any other non-house speakers like you could name anyone you could alert you could elect to talker
00:33:11.540
you could elect elon musk you could zeldin is a name that people the legend of zeldin zeldin would
00:33:16.680
be great zeldin would be terrific you could anyone zeldin could unite the tribes zeldin could unite
00:33:23.320
the tribes speaker charlie kirk oh yeah you know what's you know it's so funny someone actually
00:33:26.940
recommended that in the chat am i old enough to be speaker i don't think there's any rules i think
00:33:31.080
you could elect a child speaker wow charlie turns 30 next week i would be a real bad speaker let me
00:33:37.740
tell you that would last charlie charlie's on the last gasp of uh 20s i know i'm retiring charlie
00:33:45.660
kirk next saturday i'm done i made a promise i'd do it till i'm 30 you have to retire because
00:33:50.900
he's hanging up i know now because i'm gonna go i'm gonna go become a college football coach i gave
00:33:55.960
it 12 years guys see you later amen it's not a joke i'm gonna start my college football coaching
00:34:01.160
career and i will go to colorado you want to prime time i will not coach for deon sanders that would
00:34:07.200
that would not go well that would last about an afternoon
00:34:10.360
yeah i'll let everyone kind of just that pause of people wonder why prime time
00:34:17.800
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take a backseat role in this one because i have honestly had a very long and interesting week and
00:35:56.280
you guys have been blowing up our feeds about white liberals that are being stopped stabbed by black
00:36:00.680
criminals so i'm not really following this as closely it's it's so jack educate me right so you've got
00:36:06.180
this is the the the the love story of antifa betty the tragic love story of antifa betty and her antifa
00:36:13.660
soy friend and uh what what we have here is we have here is a failure to communicate no it's it's a
00:36:20.820
4 a.m in the morning two essentially antifa members supporters and this this you know is is immaterial
00:36:31.380
people would say to the video itself but i disagree because they encounter and and before we play the
00:36:39.140
video full guys just just pause there for a second before we encounter what actually happens to them
00:36:47.060
they're sitting on a bus you know bus stop bench uh brooklyn new york a crazed black psychopath
00:36:55.400
wielding a knife at 4 a.m walks past them 4 a.m yeah it's like 3 51 the time stamp is there
00:37:01.480
he walks past them in the video you can see the guy get up off the bench with his girlfriend walk
00:37:09.600
towards the maniac engage him start speaking with him then he gets threatened with the knife and finally
00:37:19.020
at that point freaks out and runs away he trips over the bench he is stabbed to death there's no
00:37:26.780
reaction whatsoever during this at any point from the girlfriend um then after they leave she refuses
00:37:35.800
to give the police a description of the assailant so i think we have the uncensored video and because
00:37:43.000
this is rumble i say we let it fly yeah let's let it fly and that's actually not unusual i'm going to
00:37:47.760
give an anecdote at a journey germany that uh actually fits this that you may or may not know
00:37:52.860
about because i actually got very little coverage okay let's let's play it
00:37:55.960
full disclosure i hate watching this video so i'm not gonna hold disclosure this is graphic
00:38:04.200
yeah i'm gonna check some email i'm totally desensitized to this at this point that's nice
00:38:09.600
yeah if you have young kids take their uh take them away from this park
00:38:37.580
so over under how long that guy's going to be back on the streets probably less than a decade
00:38:46.640
um crime of passion he'll just say yeah crime of passion uh i'm sorry not a you know what i mean
00:38:54.900
a crime of excitement not premeditated they'll say he was on drugs systemic racism way more
00:39:00.160
simple we'll just have you know the structural racism act of 2028 and those kind of like saw
00:39:04.560
75 off of all of the prison sentences yeah so but this gets weird jack or noteworthy because
00:39:12.440
this person was a super left-wing activist right and this is happening in a bizarre like this is a
00:39:17.740
well it's very strange what's happening right now right jack it's in philadelphia here
00:39:23.980
baltimore there are these pro blm white liberals that are getting hunted down by blacks at an
00:39:30.140
alarming rate right jack it's it's it's the bides war genocide it's the bides war genocide
00:39:34.880
the bides war means it means white left in chinese on chinese internet they like to call
00:39:39.460
white liberals the white left bides war i i don't i can't say it right but it's not just
00:39:44.100
whites right we got uh where they are the democrat congressman who was car jack you've got this
00:39:49.660
shivanti south and nondon a minnesota democrat who got car jack um and then yeah you have this philly
00:39:57.560
guy who was like obsessed with larry krasner he was shot seven times and killed in his home
00:40:03.980
and then and you know and then he's a larry krasner supporter he's a larry krasner supporter
00:40:10.040
yep um guy who my brother actually knew by the way what's that guy's name i don't have it listed
00:40:14.860
here josh kruger yeah yeah say it again josh kruger and i don't think we know specifically if that was
00:40:22.180
he might have been shot by someone he knew he was in like the drug world no no there is a person
00:40:26.200
there is a person of interest in that uh however that person was so uh we're told that it was a
00:40:32.480
former lover um also similar to the matthew shepherd situation where he was killed by a former lover
00:40:37.480
despite what the media will tell you and uh in this case that the same former lover who killed josh
00:40:43.720
kruger shot him seven times in the chest uh police also say that it would this person of interest and
00:40:49.360
again person of interest not suspect not arrested yet so all the caveats there but they do say that
00:40:54.280
there are text messages that were seemed very alarming to them from this individual and that
00:40:59.220
it was the same individual who had essentially broken into his house uh recently after getting
00:41:03.940
out of prison just some months prior so it seems to be a to your point it wasn't like a random killing
00:41:09.580
so so blake let's take a step back what what talk about the macro here okay so macro just to kind
00:41:14.920
of put it on display put up uh cut 90 uh this is a cartoon that actually pre-existed it was before the
00:41:20.280
last few weeks it's a kind of a cartoon where it's you know this uh mother and her her child
00:41:26.880
walking and they see kind of this like angry looking kind of white homeless guy and she's like
00:41:31.600
let's do that and then at least we're still alive and then same thing with a you know different race
00:41:36.680
where they're like let's keep going and well at least we're not racist r.i.p and you know that
00:41:41.540
definitely is kind of a dynamic that probably plays out for example in the brooklyn case not in every
00:41:47.300
case but the big picture here is you know a lot of like elite liberals sort of they'll say all the
00:41:53.000
right things but they know the score they don't live in the dangerous cities that they promote they
00:41:57.660
live in you know they either live in a gated community or they live in their nice little like
00:42:01.960
leafy suburb where it still looks like 1978 and you know they know what's going on in their cities and
00:42:08.280
they don't take part in it but you do have these kind of young more uh radical ideologues who will
00:42:13.360
very proudly say like it's all slander you know krasner is a great da this city's awesome everyone
00:42:18.220
who says it's dangerous is full of crap and they die and then some of them end up dying they pay the
00:42:22.920
toll as it were but but this is where it gets sick and jack i don't want to bury the lead here the most
00:42:26.680
important part of the story you just kind of said quickly and i don't think everyone caught it
00:42:29.800
that the young lady they were dating or whatever she watches her boyfriend get murdered in the street
00:42:36.320
with a knife and then when the police ask her she refuses to disclose the race of the victim right
00:42:42.800
thereby disclosing the race no but yeah again it's not exactly rocket science no no i am what blake
00:42:48.600
what blake is saying that is that the if it was a white uh assailant then she would have been
00:42:54.100
easily likely to yeah but but this this is why i tell people this is a very cynical black pill moment
00:43:00.400
i hope everyone understands this this is a very this is not funny in the sense of civilizational
00:43:06.820
stuff because some people are saying oh you know they deserve to die i i don't like that stuff you
00:43:09.820
guys could disagree you could i i there there's an element of you know awfully dark irony here but
00:43:15.080
no hold on this is where i get really blackpilled this is a young lady who watched someone she cared
00:43:20.520
about get slit in the throat and when the police come to find out who did it she refuses to give the
00:43:27.280
information because she's more afraid of being called a racist than finding the justice for who
00:43:33.300
killed her boyfriend i'm going to give you another example in germany recently a young lady was gang
00:43:38.700
raped by a you know the story by a bunch of muslims and a bunch of arabs she goes to the police and
00:43:44.580
said i was gang raped by a bunch of white germans lied about the race i remember remember this this is a
00:43:49.880
real story so that the police right i don't know the timeline prager just told it to me and if prager
00:43:54.800
says that means he's vetted it because he's very he's a stickler for this stuff and i could find the
00:43:59.720
time so the the police go and try to find a group of white germans that raped this girl she was willing
00:44:06.240
to protect her rapists when asked she said i did not want to increase the anti-immigrant sentiment
00:44:12.200
this is a girl that was gang raped and she was more concerned about protecting her rapists
00:44:19.540
in pursuit of a racial revolution there is no saving these people because you know the talking
00:44:26.600
point is you know they're going to turn into right-wingers as soon as their friends get murdered
00:44:30.140
and their storefronts get bashed jack what did the friends of this guy say the friends came out and
00:44:36.020
they said he would have felt sorry for them for this black maniac because he had a lack of stuff
00:44:43.360
because he was under resource lack of resources and a victim of society and a press member and this
00:44:49.620
is why to black pills i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna i'm gonna say this and and i and i say this
00:44:55.580
with love i do say this with love okay for the people out there who think all you need to say
00:45:01.180
is that uh facts don't care about your feelings it's actually backwards because these people know that
00:45:08.120
it's very smart you're exactly will never never uh accept appeals to reason appeals to reason will
00:45:16.100
never work on them specifically for liberal women but liberals in general it's because they're they
00:45:21.680
are rooted in empathy their politics are rooted in victimization in empathy in emotion in emotional
00:45:28.560
resonance particularly for liberal women i tweeted this the other day that what leftism has done is
00:45:33.980
taken the natural maternal instinct and then reprogrammed that for the marginalized and depressed
00:45:41.660
and victim classes of society it's completely marxian where they've taken this innate um instinct that
00:45:48.960
all women have to protect their children and they've sort of gotten them to latch it on to these
00:45:53.340
different you know these different groups of society and it by the way this doesn't only mean
00:45:59.080
childless millennials or childless women you could have kids and still believe this stuff too
00:46:02.960
uh it just means that they are playing on those natural emotional tendencies and so if you're if
00:46:09.060
you're sitting there citing statistics and logic and you know facts and reason and all this like this
00:46:13.780
is not even logic this is not this this is what's so amazing jack you're making a smart point but
00:46:18.860
when you see a murder happen in front of you that defies let's let's let's let's scarring that this
00:46:24.440
feeling that's what's so amazing is that it's ideology even over feeling because that's what's in
00:46:31.240
because yes that that's the point that's what we're getting at there's a phenomenology of spirit
00:46:36.780
here where this woman here on screen i want you all this is not isolated we have like tons of
00:46:41.840
examples she was more concerned right blake remember that guy in atlanta that called the cops
00:46:47.820
on the black guy terrorizing his family and he starts like yeah and he starts crying
00:46:51.300
i didn't want this he was black and all this so blake i mean again i i'm not blackpilled on
00:46:57.820
everything but i there is this talking point that i hear all the time once it gets bad enough people
00:47:02.620
are going to come to the right i don't see that i see that they will only be like you know it's a
00:47:08.040
damn shame that my best friend got slit his throat slit in front of me but let the revolution
00:47:13.380
continue the one that the one that i sometimes think of is um i believe it was molly tibbets was the
00:47:19.860
iowa girl no that's another good one right where her 2017 her stepfather or whatever came out
00:47:24.540
university of iowa he says what he said was like i you know she was very pro-immigrant yeah she was
00:47:30.300
very pro-immigrant and then he you know after she gets murdered by an illegal immigrant he says you
00:47:34.540
know mexicans he just says mexicans he's like they're just iowans with better food which if you
00:47:39.240
want to interpret that literally it is they are strictly speaking superior to us they are exactly the
00:47:45.740
same as us or better in all ways very smart and you do like you will hear this you'll just be like
00:47:51.060
oh man we're getting a lot of uh you know refugees in this town what does that mean we're gonna get a
00:47:55.340
bunch of great restaurants and otherwise nothing will change i want to read this headline here
00:47:59.220
there's actually i was gonna say there's actually a little more to this go ahead okay um they
00:48:06.060
his friends have launched a gofundme uh for this they say the beneficiary of this
00:48:12.800
is claudia morales the girl the girlfriend they've currently raised 67 000 this is not for
00:48:20.620
funeral costs this is not for memorial it specifically says the money is for them we've
00:48:27.320
got it here bring it up on screen we can uh we can take a look at what do you mean for them is that
00:48:31.080
like is that like a trans thing they them no no no it says immediate needs are to offset the costs
00:48:37.980
of working class people taking time off of work and essentially says that they're just they're just
00:48:46.100
raising money like they're just taking money and exploiting this guy's death to put it in their own
00:48:51.020
pockets to give it to her and and here's what's so crazy charlie is that i've so there's comments on
00:48:55.800
this current there's currently 39 as i look right now because when you when you donate money you can
00:48:59.820
comment not a single one of the comments that i've seen so far have mentioned the fact that he was
00:49:05.760
murdered have mentioned the murderer have called for justice have called for accountability um
00:49:11.320
someone saying uh you'll love this one actually the reaction by some to ryan's passing jarred me out
00:49:20.640
of a deep nihilistic right-wing abyss in which i was leave living reading about ryan and his work
00:49:26.920
reminded me that each of us has a story we love we laugh we have goals i will probably think about ryan
00:49:33.940
every day andrew you you haven't you haven't chimed in yet what the hell is going on here i mean this
00:49:39.940
is i mean this is really sick i i was i'm personally super disgusted by this whole story and i i think
00:49:48.500
my reaction is similar to yours charlie that when we say it has to get bad enough in some of these
00:49:55.300
blue hell holes for it to finally get better i mean i think that's true to an extent i mean you see
00:50:01.360
eric adams is down in mexico he's saying it's ruining immigration is ruining the new york city
00:50:08.980
you see this gang rape story uh out of bemidji minnesota which is like and the cops going sleepiest
00:50:15.720
town in the midwest yeah it's a it's a completely all the migrants to the whitest areas of america
00:50:20.720
why is that yeah well minnesota takes in more uh refugees and asylum seekers i think than any
00:50:27.440
other state last i checked or at least it's uh proportionally more than any other state
00:50:31.600
they deliberately send them to the whitest areas oh yeah no of course and but you see this for folks
00:50:38.040
who don't know this story i mean it's it's in the same vein as as brooklyn is philly baltimore which
00:50:44.300
we haven't touched on yet where you've got a white enclave the cops go this 11 year old girl was
00:50:51.160
with an aunt apparently the aunt took her out she gets plastered says let's hop in this car as soon
00:50:59.320
as they get in the car bags are put over their head i don't i think they kick the aunt out at some
00:51:04.600
point they take the 11 year old girl back to this home and inside the home she's tied up
00:51:11.180
in in between two other girls who are also tied up four men took turns gang raping all three of them
00:51:19.880
one of the girls untied the 11 year old girl she manages to escape and they take her to a hospital
00:51:27.000
and she reports the gang rape the cops execute a search warrant at the home and lo and behold there's
00:51:35.920
11 illegals just chilling in that home where these girls were getting gang raped
00:51:40.280
they've arrested one man who's actually native born texan but he's hispanic um and the 11 others
00:51:47.900
were put in the custody of border patrol um what's to happen to them i have i have no idea i mean every
00:51:54.460
single one of them if they were complicit in any way shape or form of this crime should be freaking
00:52:00.420
taken out on the corner of the street and shot point blank and and the fact that uh we're just we're
00:52:06.680
just like unleashing hell onto the streets of america i think that's how your tweet said it
00:52:10.420
charlie and we we are not more outraged and and yes we are but the fact that democrats and these blue
00:52:17.560
cities are not outraged at what they are unleashing onto america i think is the most morally repulsive
00:52:24.680
and blackpilling event of at least the last five years for me um i'm so disgusted but i know this trend
00:52:32.900
in the media and we should show image 101 and it's a it's a side-by-side because not only would
00:52:39.560
this girlfriend not back to the new york brooklyn poet not only would the girlfriend not describe
00:52:46.060
the victim or the the assailant now he he actually police get this guy and cbs blurs out his face
00:52:54.300
and so we were having a debate and blake was like is that common i was like i don't think so i've never
00:52:59.060
seen that before except for with children it's because it's a black person who has privilege in
00:53:03.840
america no of course so that side by side with daniel penny also cbs news there we see his face real
00:53:11.560
clear now he's infamous now he'll never live a normal life again for defending people on a subway car
00:53:17.080
from a crazy man but yet this guy stabs a poet the the girlfriend won't describe what he looks like
00:53:23.540
they get him cbs won't even show him and and so it's so endemic it's so like saturated through and
00:53:31.640
through both the media complex as well as their little puppets and on the street at 4 a.m i i mean
00:53:39.020
i i don't know how you fix it i the the brainwashing is so thorough and you can't you can't fix it and
00:53:45.160
this is this is what and i had the long private conversation with prager and i asked him this because
00:53:50.320
i really respect his moral clarity on this and he said charlie i was of the belief for a couple
00:53:55.120
decades that you hit rock bottom then all of a sudden people start to wake up and it's not it's
00:54:00.360
what alexander solzhenitsyn wrote in the gulag archipelago this is all thanks to ideology ideology
00:54:05.960
will trump reality yes that's what's so unbelievable yes most americans and the most american right there
00:54:11.940
is this inevitability there's this hey it's going to get bad and then all of a sudden people will come
00:54:17.820
to their senses like no it's just going to get worse it's a vision i think a lot of it's sort of
00:54:25.000
a very common fantasy is probably the best word a lot of i used to believe it a lot of conservatives
00:54:30.540
like the idea that people aren't listening to me but there will be this day where there's this big
00:54:35.620
cataclysm and everyone turns to you and it's like you were right charlie why didn't i listen to you oh i
00:54:41.740
was so wrong and then they like sob and then you rebuild america it's like it's sort of like the
00:54:46.180
fantasy of you know there's an apocalypse and then you're the one who was prepared for it and all of
00:54:51.160
that but yeah the sad truth is is people can persist in ideological insanity to incredible depths the
00:54:58.940
mind is is so unbelievably powerful there are people who just fanatically believed in adolf hitler all
00:55:05.820
the way to the point where you know the soviets were in berlin and gang raping everyone there and
00:55:11.060
they had just completely destroyed their country and they still believed in him secretly afterwards
00:55:15.220
and you know there were diehards for every regime it it makes me think of two things one you know
00:55:22.820
i've always wondered why you know in the bible story of exodus trump didn't let the uh original
00:55:28.840
generation get to the promised land he let them all die off except except caleb and joshua
00:55:34.800
were only two that got in honestly for some reason that's what i'm thinking of right now it's like
00:55:39.120
how do you how do you get to the promised land with these types of people in your ranks i don't
00:55:42.780
know it's depressing secondly it makes me think of the fact you know this debate of what to do on the
00:55:48.020
border you know all these all these groups and uh you know texas and florida shipping migrants
00:55:54.600
illegals uh to to blue cities i mean we're just gonna get stuck with them forever i mean these people
00:56:00.180
will accept them so this this is this is where conservatives get it wrong um they think that they can just
00:56:08.280
let things collapse things will get worse and fall apart and then we can come in and sweep things up
00:56:13.580
no uh that will not work because these people have been presented in ideology that persuades them
00:56:18.840
the only response to this is an organized response an organized vision for a way out
00:56:25.780
an organized system um and a coalition of coalitions if you will whatever you want to call it you have to
00:56:32.060
actually prevent present excuse me present a vision for what's coming forward you must articulate that
00:56:38.580
vision you must organize your ranks you have to go around the country it'd be amazing if we had a
00:56:43.120
an organization that was going around organizing youth hey we should start we should start one at
00:56:47.980
some point someone should do chapters you're trying to change the direction of america it's like
00:56:53.480
you're trying to reach there's almost a point of turning point of we'll think of a name jack sorry
00:56:59.300
continue and then and then you turn usa love it turn around turn turn you turn you how about this
00:57:07.800
180 america i love it 180 no it's and it's and the thing is is is people just assume that you it's it's
00:57:16.400
going to happen by itself it won't this is why the trump movement existed because people finally got
00:57:22.340
off their butts they found a leader that people could rally behind someone who had a clear articulate
00:57:27.800
vision for the way forward someone who wasn't a loser like one of these ned flanders old right
00:57:33.140
republican conserva dorks and was actually going to go forward and say we're going to make america great
00:57:38.140
again we're going to be rich we're going to be awesome we're going to put people on the moon and
00:57:41.560
we're going to tell commies to shut up and we're going to send them back to trotsky and it's basically
00:57:46.420
a situation like that where it needs to come up again and if you don't have someone actually out
00:57:51.260
there articulating it and organizations building it up you are going to lose and this ideology and
00:57:56.700
by the way thanks to the internet right this crap isn't just stuck in like san francisco and the
00:58:01.060
inner city and stuff no it's it's it's in every single school board of the entire country and then
00:58:06.600
thanks to the migration policies you've got illegal alien pedophile gang rape gangs running through
00:58:13.380
midgy minnesota so if you think that like oh it's just something i don't have to worry about
00:58:18.840
yeah just wait until the migrants show up in your neighborhood and start gang raping your children
00:58:23.480
then you're going to worry about it so in in if you go deep into mexico i mean deep right and the
00:58:30.000
cartels control everything there was a story recently i heard from someone that works for us who has
00:58:34.200
family in mexico where a guy uh raped a nine-year-old and the police you know get their hand on this uh
00:58:42.060
pedophile and he's in the police house this happens all the time in mexico and the cartels just came into
00:58:46.880
the police house it was like no we're taking them and yeah they cut that guy's nuts off strung them
00:58:52.240
up and killed them in the public square and left them there for a week taliban started as pedophile
00:58:56.540
killers too no and i'm not saying that's what that's actually why they got so popular but i'm not saying
00:59:00.720
that's what we do here but what the point is that white liberals that go to college is like well we must
00:59:05.980
feel sorry for the pedophile and you look at it like you must be taught this is what i'm saying is that
00:59:11.940
at the most fundamental like existence the third world they don't put up with this stuff right
00:59:16.380
they're this is not something that is considered normal or acceptable you look at what is the
00:59:23.000
commonality of every single one of these people right now the blogger in philly the young lady that
00:59:27.400
got raped is it true that that young lady who is the tech ceo forbes 30 under 30 or whatever
00:59:32.040
that she held the elevator for her killer is that right in her building she let him she also had
00:59:37.280
and let him in her elevator and she had you know so so if she was racist she was probably still alive
00:59:42.900
think about this if she would have been racist she'd still be living number number 95 show it again
00:59:47.500
and if she would have charlie is pattern 100 yeah there you go no no no this is a this is a thought
00:59:52.240
crime if she would have been a bigot she'd still be breathing yeah got it but remember just like in
00:59:58.980
just like in brooklyn to cross the street is racist lack of no but think about it so those two people on
01:00:04.140
the street well it was obama criticized his grandmother i believe for being someone who
01:00:08.440
would cross the street he did he saw an ominous looking person that's exactly right i remember
01:00:14.280
there was like a radio interview don't believe you're lying eyes she was a typical white person
01:00:18.820
i think is what he said she was a typical i'm not making a defense for bigotry or racism i'm just
01:00:23.000
what i am saying though is that there's worse crimes where's worse things than bigotry or racism
01:00:28.360
okay charlie what you're touching on is actually deeply profound to the american psyche how i'll
01:00:37.540
never forget i was at a bar it was like a cigar lounge in la i'll leave the name off the guy the
01:00:43.840
guy's a cuban guy who owns it uh actually michael knolls had been in there i found that out that night
01:00:48.140
but the point is um he it was beloved this this guy everybody loved this guy and i was talking to him
01:00:55.640
and he was he was making fun of how much americans care about racism he's like oh in cuba we just call
01:01:02.020
a spade a spade about all this stuff but the american psyche is so conditioned to put you know this
01:01:10.220
accusation of racism and why it's been such an effective cudgel against those uh of us on the
01:01:15.440
right for years is that if you call somebody a a racist it's you know like a death sentence i think
01:01:21.180
that that era is changing slowly but yeah i mean nobody's defending it let me let me let me just
01:01:27.240
like interrupt like if you're a single white female in an urban area and you see a 22 year old black guy
01:01:32.520
that wants to get into your building and you have like maybe a pattern recognition honestly god bless
01:01:37.960
you for not letting that guy into the building okay he has to wait for the next person you're still alive
01:01:41.620
but no instead she's like well i don't want to be called a racist let the revolution continue oh he
01:01:47.320
comes in and rapes you and kills you maybe a little bit of noticing would have been good
01:01:51.580
you'd still be alive pattern recognition saves lives what i'm getting at though is they're so
01:01:59.300
afraid of violating the the on what it's almost like the unforgivable sin of america right it's not
01:02:07.100
blaspheming the holy spirit or taking the lord's name in vain it is thou shalt not have a racist thought
01:02:12.140
right and it's uniquely american i mean i'm not saying that australia that's correct britain
01:02:17.220
don't have similar sort of things or whatever built into their society ethics but america because
01:02:22.780
of the civil war because of slavery and and you know what's funny is that so much of that is astroturf
01:02:28.660
if you want to flip everything on its head how about we say it like this no america sacrificed 600 000
01:02:35.160
people to writing that wrong yes no you know what america uh you know the west in general
01:02:41.840
ended slavery right i mean there's some serious slavery was endemic until the british empire got
01:02:47.520
rid of it well they're still selling slaves in africa they're still selling slaves in africa so i'm just
01:02:53.220
saying it's like we have been so conditioned and brainwashed from from the from a very young age to
01:02:59.980
think this way and it's actually all bs i'm not saying that racism isn't wrong it's not real sure but
01:03:06.660
like the vast majority of this what we call racism is what you know what we just diagnosed as
01:03:11.400
pattern recognition you know god help us for for wanting to protect our family from something
01:03:16.300
and also it's just not even close three percent of the population does 60 of the murders it's three
01:03:21.500
percent yeah because it's you know it's not even just you know the usual one is that you know black
01:03:27.180
americans commit more murders but it's even narrower than that it's you know if you take black men like
01:03:32.780
15 to 26 or so that is the range where the huge proportion of america's you know murders robberies
01:03:41.460
everything you know if you're women mostly don't commit too many crimes and just like when you're
01:03:45.700
old you mellow out you stop committing crimes or you're in jail for crimes you've already committed
01:03:49.420
so jack i'll be very honest i do not have the spirit the gusto or the interest in columbus day why
01:03:55.160
should i care the floor is yours well charlie do you do you care about a little something called the
01:04:00.680
united states of america do you care about a little something called the west do you care about a
01:04:05.420
little bit something called the country in which we live that we are trying to save every day well
01:04:10.000
none of that would exist if it wasn't for the man himself christopher columbus and the real question
01:04:15.520
that i have is christopher columbus was he a hero or a superhero personally for me i'm gonna go in the
01:04:23.540
superhero column the man who was trying to find gold in order to fund another crusade to win over
01:04:31.820
the holy land the same way that king ferdinand had just kicked the moors out of spain in the
01:04:37.160
reconquista they were eventually trying to kick the moors and their brethren out of the holy land
01:04:42.680
in the same year by the way the reconquista ended blake what year 1492 what else happened that year blake
01:04:49.600
columbus sailed the ocean blue every it's amazing right see it all it all fits it right but how many
01:04:56.240
people told you that it was directly tied to the reconquista of spain uh the re-christianization of
01:05:03.540
spain of bringing christianity to the new world which they later found out it was the new world and then
01:05:08.980
hopefully the create the finding of gold in order to fund a new crusade against the holy land which i mean
01:05:15.120
there's so many different things that are tied into this that just get completely taken out and look
01:05:21.200
look at how many cities in this country we've got named after columbus look at how many statues uh there
01:05:26.600
our capital city is called the district of columbia based on columbus here's it here's one for a pop
01:05:32.620
pop quiz for anybody out there what is the statue on top of the united states capitol building
01:05:37.240
it's probably christopher columbus and it's probably some woman named columbia
01:05:42.080
well it's it's the woman columbia who is the stylized you know sort of goddess of america
01:05:47.880
based on britannia who was the you know sort of the stylized goddess of great britain and then so
01:05:54.800
this is but again based on columbus because the original name for america which was very highly
01:06:01.900
favored among even a number of the founding fathers was to call our country columbia uh based on the on
01:06:08.060
the heroism and the exploits of christopher columbus and so and i see people will say like
01:06:12.900
what about eric the red what about you know uh you know what about the fact that he just got lost and
01:06:18.220
it's like you're you're completely you're completely missing the actual impact of the man's accomplishments
01:06:27.300
in life and the absolute world historic change that it had on basically the entire planet and
01:06:35.560
the trajectory of humanity all right if you like that that's the italian propaganda blake why is he
01:06:40.280
right i mean here's the counter because columbus day columbus day is just the 1800s version of
01:06:45.460
juneteenth which is america had a ton of italian immigrants they were a controversial addition to the
01:06:51.960
united states they were sometimes associated with urban you know urban crime problems and such
01:06:57.540
and you know they were like okay we need to placate them with a holiday and so in a way columbus day is
01:07:04.940
just the 1800s version of june juneteenth like do people really celebrate columbus day founding fathers
01:07:10.840
confirmed i mean those founding fathers if you can point to me towards the founding fathers celebrating
01:07:16.900
columbus day as a federal holiday i'll i'm not sure i'm celebrating columbus day i'm talking about
01:07:20.740
celebrating columbus and columbus's accomplishment which is very so what i will say is that the the
01:07:26.160
columbus was a deeply faithful man some of the writings uh some of the writings from columbus
01:07:32.760
you know people i don't know i think they would criticize him as a you know you know genocide against
01:07:39.600
the natives these are some like you know i want to ask about that yeah some of the comments that people
01:07:44.560
will make this way and that way if you read his writings and you are a believing spirit-filled christian
01:07:50.280
and you read columbus's writings you will instantly know that his faith was authentic
01:07:55.300
his faith was almost spirit-filled so profound and i believe god absolutely providentially um led
01:08:03.440
columbus i have zero doubt in my mind just about three minutes blake is there any truth to the blanket
01:08:08.120
thing the blanket thing not by columbus uh that was allegedly done as a war tactic in the 1700s uh it
01:08:14.600
was uh lord jeffrey amherst namesake of amherst college they're very upset about that one today of
01:08:19.260
course uh but he's allegedly the one who did it during the french and indian war i believe
01:08:23.660
oh columbia university there's another one yeah columbia there's columbia stuff yeah i mean overall
01:08:28.020
obviously it's fun to say you know it's 1800s juneteenth but yes like we should you know celebrate
01:08:33.820
columbus because ultimately columbus discovering america was it was a good thing if only because it
01:08:38.920
led to the creation of the united states of america the greatest country in the history of the world of
01:08:43.880
course and it created the modern world that we just we cannot comprehend the world that is as it
01:08:50.120
exists without columbus being the guy who decided to uh miscalculate the size of the world think he
01:08:55.320
could sail to china in less time than it would actually take and he you know ran into america
01:09:00.180
and you know it created the modern world we're all going to eat the foods that created we're going to live
01:09:06.700
under the uh society and just he created he actually created the global world essentially
01:09:13.760
before that it was just a bunch of uh continents far separated and it is because of columbus's legacy
01:09:20.360
that we live in a world that is fully interconnected and is western in orientation not eastern not middle
01:09:26.680
eastern not anything else all right closing thoughts guys we have lots to get to uh got to hit the road
01:09:33.320
head to florida any closing thoughts jack christopher columbus was a brave italian explorer
01:09:40.280
and in this house christopher columbus is a hero and the story
01:09:44.480
great everybody email us freedom at charlie kirk.com subscribe to our podcast that was a really
01:09:53.240
great episode i got to say we got into some some pretty good stuff there and we're gonna have some
01:09:58.520
guests coming up on the charlie kirk show c taylor that is going to uh help fill in
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the blanks of noticing god bless keep committing thought crimes