Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 17 — Hamas-Loving Lefties？ Colonialism = Great？ RFK Hurting Trump？

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time once again for this week's episode of Thought Crime.

00:00:04.860 Tonight, myself, Charlie Kirk, and the boys talk about the BLM connection between Hamas and the left,

00:00:13.000 colonialism, cringe or based, and we debate, big debate here, RFK and his effect on the 2024 race.

00:00:22.160 Is this a shakeup? Does it help Trump or hurt Trump?

00:00:24.820 All this in our head as we prepare to commit thought crime.

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00:00:49.560 All right, everybody. Welcome. Thought Crime. What a week.

00:00:54.460 We are not in our usual location. We're here in sunny South Florida.

00:00:58.020 We're here with Blake. Blake, say hi. Hello.

00:01:00.000 We have Tyler, who is in studio. Tyler, say hello.

00:01:04.200 Holding down the fort here for you, Charlie.

00:01:07.440 That's great. I love the Noble Gold Investments hat.

00:01:10.200 And then we have Jack Posobiec as well.

00:01:12.960 Jack, what a week.

00:01:13.840 Yo, what a week.

00:01:15.540 Charlie, not much going on.

00:01:16.960 Like, I'm not really sure what we're going to talk about, to be honest.

00:01:19.200 It's been kind of quiet.

00:01:20.020 Like, you're watching the baseball playoffs, man.

00:01:22.600 Who you're rooting for.

00:01:23.820 Billy's doing all right.

00:01:24.820 You know, I'm liking that.

00:01:27.860 D-backs.

00:01:28.340 Yeah, wait.

00:01:29.500 You know, Tyler, where are the Diamondbacks in?

00:01:33.500 Are they still in contention?

00:01:34.840 That's how little I care about baseball.

00:01:36.260 Producer Andrew will be happy to know that the Diamondbacks are going to sweep L.A. tonight.

00:01:41.660 Guys, I wasn't serious about that.

00:01:42.800 Oh, wow.

00:01:43.240 So the Diamondbacks...

00:01:43.920 Oh, here we are.

00:01:46.040 So, wait.

00:01:46.740 So...

00:01:47.920 He's got to deal with it now.

00:01:51.320 We're talking about baseball.

00:01:52.160 And they are going to get swept really bad.

00:01:56.580 That's the Dodgers experience.

00:01:58.500 You win 110 games, and then you get swept.

00:02:03.760 So, in other news, Jack, you're kind of our foreign correspondent.

00:02:08.760 Sorry, I'm hearing myself back.

00:02:10.000 That's the only way it can work, I guess.

00:02:11.140 So, when I'm talking or when you're talking, Blake, I'm going to take this thing out.

00:02:13.980 It's all right.

00:02:14.320 Or else Jack won't be able to hear you.

00:02:16.020 Jack, walk us through what has been happening in the Middle East.

00:02:19.240 Israel, walk us through it.

00:02:20.900 Well, Charlie, it's been amazing.

00:02:22.620 And the reason that I bring up the baseball situation is because...

00:02:25.160 So, people know my family's from Philly.

00:02:26.800 And so, it's like in the family chat, we've got this chat where they're giving us,

00:02:31.300 oh, here's the play-by-play of whatever game is going on.

00:02:35.340 Like, oh, somebody got a hit, somebody got it out, et cetera, et cetera.

00:02:38.160 And then every single other channel on my phone, my telegram, my signal,

00:02:43.780 various other apps that I use that I'd rather not talk about on air,

00:02:47.140 I'm just getting full-on war atrocities, complete insanity that's going on in Israel

00:02:54.640 on the back of this attack, this insane terrorist attack from Hamas

00:03:00.720 on civilians living in southern Israel on these farming settlements,

00:03:07.500 these remote farming settlements known as kibitzes.

00:03:10.560 And then also this music festival, this rave that was going on right outside of Hamas

00:03:16.760 where hundreds of people were now being told were completely shot down, cut down,

00:03:22.820 murdered entire families, villages, torn apart.

00:03:25.060 And it's just amazing watching this sort of play out.

00:03:29.980 You know, these are the type of, Charlie, these are the types of killings that,

00:03:33.780 you know, and there was an IDF soldier who said the same thing,

00:03:36.340 that we read about in a historic textbook from the Bronze Age,

00:03:41.620 you know, the slaughtering of an entire village by one group.

00:03:45.440 This is not the kind of stuff, it's very Old Testament, I'll put it that way,

00:03:49.420 it's very Old Testament.

00:03:50.500 And it's happening, of course, in the very land of the Bible itself.

00:03:56.640 I think a lot of people didn't think this would be something that could happen in our modern age.

00:04:01.600 And a lot of those people are called liberals

00:04:03.240 because they don't understand that human nature does not change.

00:04:07.820 And so we find ourselves in this situation.

00:04:09.800 But what's even crazier is that, you know, initially we thought,

00:04:14.380 well, certainly everyone will condemn this.

00:04:16.520 Horrible, though it's so gruesome, these images.

00:04:19.180 And then we had groups here in Washington, D.C., in Chicago, in Dearborn, Michigan,

00:04:26.700 come out and not only start holding rallies that are pro-Hamas,

00:04:31.220 like we saw in Dearborn, Michigan recently,

00:04:33.280 but we've even seen one organization, they're called Black Lives Matter,

00:04:38.780 release statements in full endorsement.

00:04:43.360 Some saying, now some saying we back the Palestinian people,

00:04:46.680 but there was one out of Chicago that actually posted essentially a meme that said,

00:04:53.060 I stand with Palestine and showed this image of a paraglider.

00:04:57.940 The reason being is that paragliders and paratroopers were used to land in this rave

00:05:05.460 and start slaughtering people.

00:05:07.480 So, I mean, this is, people have compared it to Israel's 9-11.

00:05:11.220 I think that's accurate.

00:05:12.460 I mean, it's not, it is not 9-11, but it is like 9-11 for them.

00:05:16.840 I mean, 10-7 might be the new thing we have to say,

00:05:19.700 but they're just straight up supporting a terrorist attack.

00:05:24.900 There's no other way about this.

00:05:26.200 I mean, this is full-on barbarism.

00:05:28.220 And what's interesting for us is that, Carly, in 2020,

00:05:32.940 if you said BLM is a terrorist organization, you would have been fired,

00:05:38.080 you would have lost your job, you would have been canceled,

00:05:40.860 you would have been kicked out of the military,

00:05:42.380 whatever you were part of, you were done.

00:05:44.900 Your children would be kicked out of school,

00:05:47.200 probably taken from you and given off to some other family.

00:05:49.720 But no, no, turns out that BLM, they were terrorists all along.

00:05:54.260 Who knew?

00:05:54.880 Who knew?

00:05:55.300 You know, it's always the ones you at least expect.

00:05:57.360 Yeah, and Jack, you and I led on this as the Israeli atrocities were being reported.

00:06:02.360 We said, watch closely.

00:06:03.460 BLM and Hamas are going to use similar messaging.

00:06:06.540 Blake, this is something we're exploring on our show.

00:06:08.560 Introduce our audience to Franz Fanon.

00:06:11.180 Did I say that right?

00:06:12.360 I'll just say Fanon because I'm American,

00:06:14.760 so I don't need to worry about the correct way to pronounce it.

00:06:16.680 So, yeah, walk us.

00:06:17.920 Who is this tricky little philosopher?

00:06:20.320 So, Franz Fanon.

00:06:22.500 Whatever.

00:06:22.900 I wish it was Franz Ferdinand, like the group, or the dead Archduke.

00:06:26.900 Anyway, Franz Fanon, he is this Afro-Caribbean left-wing intellectual.

00:06:31.660 He's written a lot of some of those foundational texts that even, you know,

00:06:36.560 the right will often overplay how much leftists actually read some of these works.

00:06:39.780 But this is a guy who's read.

00:06:40.780 He wrote a book called The Wretched of the Earth.

00:06:43.800 It's probably his most famous one.

00:06:45.340 And the opening chapter of that book, The Wretched of the Earth,

00:06:48.960 is called On Violence.

00:06:50.520 And this is the opening line of On Violence.

00:06:55.080 National liberation, national reawakening,

00:06:58.140 restoration of the nation to the people or commonwealth.

00:07:01.400 Whatever the name used, whatever the latest expression,

00:07:05.100 decolonization is always a violent event.

00:07:09.380 A few lines later, it is the, quite simply,

00:07:12.600 the substitution of one species of mankind by another.

00:07:16.880 And it goes on like this for 60 pages.

00:07:19.660 And he's describing how the act of colonization is dehumanizing.

00:07:23.980 It reduces the colonized person to a status that is less than human.

00:07:27.980 And the way you reclaim your humanity, he writes,

00:07:31.060 is to just violently destroy the colonizer.

00:07:34.420 He really relishes in this.

00:07:36.020 And we see people explicitly citing this guy on Twitter,

00:07:40.660 on other social media platforms,

00:07:42.480 saying, yes, this is what he means.

00:07:46.200 Decolonization means not just expelling the colonizer,

00:07:49.280 and that is what they regard all the Israelis as, as colonizers,

00:07:52.160 but it is specifically to do these horrible atrocities,

00:07:56.180 to decapitate children, to rape women,

00:07:59.340 to torture the elderly, to take their cell phones,

00:08:02.540 call their family members, and say,

00:08:04.180 hey, check out your Facebook page.

00:08:05.800 And then when they log in,

00:08:07.180 they see an uploaded video of their loved one being tortured to death,

00:08:10.560 and they cackle about it.

00:08:12.680 This is, people are just saying,

00:08:13.820 yeah, what did you think we meant when we said,

00:08:15.960 you know, decolonize Palestine?

00:08:17.860 This is what we meant.

00:08:20.180 This is a serious academic thinker in certain circles?

00:08:23.780 Yes, this would be,

00:08:25.260 I believe I saw that this guy's works

00:08:27.120 are in the curriculum of Washington State.

00:08:30.340 Wow.

00:08:31.020 As one of those, you know.

00:08:32.680 Pullman, Washington.

00:08:33.900 Yeah.

00:08:34.080 Yeah.

00:08:35.000 And just all sorts of this is,

00:08:37.200 this is a core text of the radical left.

00:08:41.320 This is the sort of thing that they will read and cite to one another.

00:08:44.180 And it's almost like they're shrugging and looking at us,

00:08:46.440 and like, you didn't think we were serious?

00:08:48.200 You thought we were joking the whole time?

00:08:50.020 You thought this was a metaphor?

00:08:51.460 And it's, no, it is very much not a metaphor.

00:08:55.040 And, you know, they're going to put out posters

00:08:57.780 that celebrate paratroopers who go in to kill civilians.

00:09:00.540 It'd be like if they, you know, put out a poster that was like,

00:09:04.000 we stand with Germany,

00:09:05.140 and it has like a train that they would send to one of the camps.

00:09:08.500 Yeah, so, Tyler, I don't know if you'll hear me or not.

00:09:12.940 Tyler, what has been your take on the reaction to the Israel atrocities

00:09:19.480 from the media, from the left, and from the right?

00:09:23.380 Because it seems as if it's creating a lot of chatter

00:09:25.680 amongst the American right and even causing some division.

00:09:29.500 I actually think that the Israel issue is uniting everybody

00:09:35.640 more than anything else.

00:09:37.660 You know, we have the speaker's race.

00:09:39.820 So, you know, you've got, it's like a really odd thing.

00:09:44.240 This is just my perspective right now.

00:09:46.460 I've seen more commentary about bring Trump back

00:09:49.640 after what's happened in Israel than anything else, right?

00:09:53.060 So, you've got this scenario that's playing out

00:09:56.760 where it's like, well, you know, Trump's going to be your guy.

00:10:00.600 And this is not just for Trump and about Trump

00:10:03.680 and Trump connected to Israel,

00:10:05.100 but the Israel issue is now pushing more Trump,

00:10:07.500 like more pro-Trumpism amongst the people who are undecided.

00:10:10.480 And then the undecideds now are realizing like,

00:10:14.140 hey, we don't want to walk into 2024 with people

00:10:16.080 who are like not on the same page with Trump.

00:10:18.860 And by the way, we don't want to mess around

00:10:21.320 with people who are more interested in the Ukraine war

00:10:25.280 than protecting Israel.

00:10:27.880 And so I think that that's starting to be the conversation

00:10:29.760 that's playing out.

00:10:30.500 And I'm seeing actually amongst activists

00:10:32.860 and people who are close to members of Congress

00:10:35.540 and people who are close to other legislators

00:10:37.640 and politicians that are in our states,

00:10:39.920 they're saying, hey, we need people

00:10:41.540 who are absolutely locked in on priorities at this point.

00:10:45.200 And the priority isn't having squabbles

00:10:47.820 in a stupid presidential primary

00:10:51.120 where the frontrunner is up 50 points.

00:10:54.400 And by the way, it'd be really nice to have a speaker

00:10:56.020 that was lockstep with the president.

00:10:58.420 And, you know, can you totally trust

00:11:00.120 that the next guy is going to be,

00:11:03.720 and by the way, is the next guy going to be

00:11:05.940 focused on the right priorities,

00:11:08.000 which are, you know, Republican-centered priorities,

00:11:10.600 putting America first priorities.

00:11:12.340 And that doesn't really include the Ukrainian war

00:11:15.540 at this point.

00:11:16.880 So, you know, that's a good thing, I think, for the party

00:11:20.320 because I think it's actually consolidating more.

00:11:21.980 I think you're going to see Trump's numbers

00:11:23.160 actually continue to go up.

00:11:25.080 And I think that's part of the reason

00:11:26.360 why you're seeing Jim Jordan get such a good look.

00:11:28.380 I mean, it'd be so competitive.

00:11:30.240 I don't think a couple years ago

00:11:31.540 anyone would have ever thought

00:11:32.540 that Jim Jordan even had a shot at becoming speaker.

00:11:35.160 And now, look, he's like right in the mix here

00:11:38.520 against Scalise to take over the speakership.

00:11:43.480 And I think that that's all tied together as one.

00:11:47.780 Jack.

00:11:48.380 You know, what's so disturbing to, I think,

00:11:54.200 a lot of people and to me in general.

00:11:56.220 So when I saw Hamas doing this

00:12:00.860 and I saw the immediate response by these leftists

00:12:03.080 talking about decolonization,

00:12:06.840 and it was amazing because I think

00:12:09.040 we're going to talk about it in a minute here,

00:12:10.220 but when they specifically talked about,

00:12:12.780 you know, it was Christopher Columbus, right?

00:12:15.080 It was Christopher Columbus Day this Monday.

00:12:18.520 And I said, well, look,

00:12:21.820 this is the exact same type of narrative,

00:12:24.720 the rhetoric, the phrasing that they use specifically

00:12:27.320 to talk about white people in the United States.

00:12:30.320 And they say, you are a colonizer.

00:12:32.880 Now, that word didn't originally come from left versus right in the U.S.

00:12:38.780 I've never heard that in the liberal conservative debates

00:12:41.620 during the Trump, or excuse me, during the Bush years, right?

00:12:44.560 This really came up during the Obama years.

00:12:46.600 This came up during the rise of the first,

00:12:49.820 sort of the first Ferguson moment,

00:12:51.420 the first BLM movement in 2014, 2015.

00:12:54.960 And then suddenly with the rise of calling people,

00:13:00.320 of calling out white supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy,

00:13:02.200 and we've all seen those New York Times charts,

00:13:04.320 then sudden where these phrases were not discussed at all

00:13:08.180 prior to the Obama presidency,

00:13:10.200 and then suddenly have this massive hockey stick curve

00:13:12.760 to the right,

00:13:14.760 that instead they started calling people colonizers.

00:13:19.620 And rhetoric and linguistics and linguistic warfare

00:13:22.820 or something that I wrote a whole book on it.

00:13:24.640 I'd look at this, it's called 4D warfare.

00:13:27.480 And so I noticed this term being employed

00:13:29.900 not only by the left in this country,

00:13:33.280 the intersectionalitists,

00:13:34.540 intersectionalitists, if that's a word,

00:13:36.860 and then also by Hamas,

00:13:40.800 essentially over in Israel.

00:13:42.900 And then we know we can see this,

00:13:44.500 because if you go, all right,

00:13:45.440 I'll give you an example, right?

00:13:46.800 If I'm at,

00:13:47.700 if I'm going to speak somewhere on a college,

00:13:49.460 or Charlie, if you're going to speak when you go out,

00:13:51.100 you'll see this, that when Antifa shows up,

00:13:55.340 you'll notice that within that crowd of leftists,

00:13:57.880 you'll see trans flags,

00:13:59.420 you'll see Antifa, the black and red,

00:14:01.560 but then you'll also see some Palestinian flags,

00:14:04.960 you'll see Hamas supporters,

00:14:06.780 and you'll say, wait a minute,

00:14:08.320 what does this have to do with this?

00:14:10.060 These are totally separate things.

00:14:11.360 You'll see BLM flags.

00:14:12.600 This is where the intersectionality

00:14:15.880 meets the radicalization,

00:14:17.540 because at the end of the day,

00:14:19.260 it's all about just kill all the white people, right?

00:14:22.560 Kill whitey.

00:14:23.480 So this idea that,

00:14:25.320 oh, we can have some reason debate with them,

00:14:27.940 and we can defeat them with appeals to reason,

00:14:31.080 and we're going to beat them with facts and logic, right?

00:14:33.920 Yeah, they don't care.

00:14:34.960 They just hate you,

00:14:35.680 and they want to kill you,

00:14:36.480 and they've been radicalized to do so.

00:14:38.600 And so when people are shocked

00:14:40.720 that they're cosigning all of this stuff

00:14:43.000 that's going on in Israel,

00:14:47.040 I say, they've been doing this all along.

00:14:49.660 You guys called us crazy for talking about this.

00:14:52.820 You guys called us insane for calling it out,

00:14:55.120 and this has been the right's worldview now for a decade,

00:14:59.640 because we've told you this was coming.

00:15:02.080 You all just called us conspiracy theorists

00:15:04.200 for accurately noticing and assessing the situation.

00:15:07.400 Well, and Jack, this is the, I think,

00:15:12.600 where Republicans have an opportunity at this point

00:15:16.400 to talk more about how corporatism

00:15:18.940 and these corporations really created this monster.

00:15:23.060 And if we don't make that transition,

00:15:25.480 where it's, hey, all that money you gave to support BLM,

00:15:30.060 which seemed like a really nice thing to do at the time,

00:15:35.180 and then they immediately turned around, burned down cities.

00:15:38.640 Now they're seeing the long-term impacts of that.

00:15:41.320 I mean, they're not funding a pro-black narrative.

00:15:46.300 They're funding, again, like you said,

00:15:48.620 an anti-white, eliminate people,

00:15:52.640 eliminate Jews narrative.

00:15:55.300 This is crazy stuff.

00:15:59.960 No, it's completely insane.

00:16:01.880 It's completely insane.

00:16:02.580 And there was this story, you know, earlier this week about,

00:16:06.360 and people questioned, there was skepticism,

00:16:08.940 this decapitation of babies, beheading of babies.

00:16:12.440 People said it happened.

00:16:13.540 People said it didn't happen.

00:16:14.560 People said that maybe it happened, but it wasn't,

00:16:17.080 you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:16:18.820 So, but the real interesting point of this

00:16:21.240 was that no one on the left seemed to have a real big problem

00:16:25.540 with whether or not babies were decapitated

00:16:27.580 decapitated as long as they were Jewish babies,

00:16:30.460 as long as they were colonizer babies.

00:16:32.920 And I think that, that by and large,

00:16:34.480 most people on the left look at this situation

00:16:37.240 and they just see brown people fighting white people.

00:16:40.520 So they take the side of the brown people, right?

00:16:42.640 They're not actually going in and deciphering all the knowledge.

00:16:46.420 And then, yeah, the, you know,

00:16:47.500 Mia Khalifa will come up and show,

00:16:49.140 well, she shows a lot,

00:16:50.460 but she'll come up and she'll post some graph or whatever,

00:16:54.880 but she doesn't actually understand any of these things.

00:16:57.440 She just wants to come.

00:16:58.360 By the way, Mia Khalifa,

00:16:59.380 who was a fatwa issued against her

00:17:01.080 because she did hardcore porn while wearing a hijab.

00:17:03.820 Now, suddenly she's going to come in

00:17:05.280 and act like she's all pro-Islam, excuse me.

00:17:07.180 No, I don't think so.

00:17:08.160 No, she's trying to get back in the good graces.

00:17:10.260 But what you really see here is a mass support

00:17:15.580 for violence, for expulsion, for ethnic cleansing,

00:17:20.540 for genocide.

00:17:21.640 It's completely insane.

00:17:24.520 And yet, and I'll throw this out there as well,

00:17:27.180 that I haven't actually seen the ADL,

00:17:30.800 Jonathan Greenblatt, say a single word

00:17:33.320 about the fact that BLM has come out in full support,

00:17:36.900 not just to the Palestine, right?

00:17:38.180 Or like the Palestinian people, Palestine's not real,

00:17:42.380 but Hamas and Hamas attacks.

00:17:44.960 The ADL who goes after all of us on a regular basis

00:17:48.240 can't find a single problem with someone

00:17:50.580 who's like actually supporting the deaths of Jewish families.

00:17:54.500 Just want to point that out there.

00:17:56.920 Well, Mia Khalifa is a perfect example

00:17:59.580 of the tables turning on hipster racism.

00:18:05.480 You know, you brought up Kill YD.

00:18:07.300 You remember the, what was it, Tommy Boy?

00:18:10.320 It was a Tommy Boy where Chris Farley

00:18:15.820 gets the Kill YD, the Kill YD scene.

00:18:18.100 Anyways, all that came from like the hipster racism,

00:18:19.860 which was that goofy appropriation of white people

00:18:24.260 pretending to be black.

00:18:25.440 And, you know, that's where kind of like

00:18:27.440 a lot of this stuff actually started,

00:18:30.300 even amongst white people about the white guilt

00:18:32.800 and then turning into white guilt.

00:18:34.540 Mia Khalifa is actually the opposite.

00:18:35.960 She's participating in hipster racism,

00:18:38.940 you know, appropriating, you know,

00:18:41.820 you know, American and white culture.

00:18:45.280 And then, you know, the guilt of what she's done

00:18:49.880 and doing the exact same thing,

00:18:51.540 just on the opposite side.

00:18:53.240 And the result though is, is that people are dying.

00:18:56.580 And this is insane stuff.

00:18:58.880 And literally there's nobody calling it out at all

00:19:02.300 in the media on the left

00:19:03.340 and anything like that at all.

00:19:04.980 And it's like literally you have a porn star

00:19:06.580 appropriating this stuff.

00:19:09.240 It's, it's really tells you

00:19:11.100 where the state of the country is at right now.

00:19:13.700 So, so Blake, talk more about decolonization

00:19:16.040 and then also is colonization good?

00:19:19.580 That, that'll be a big, that's a good topic.

00:19:21.800 Yeah.

00:19:22.000 So the decolonization thing, you know,

00:19:24.440 this is the, actually the root,

00:19:26.320 we could actually play number 22 here.

00:19:28.780 Call for it.

00:19:29.420 Let's play 22.

00:19:33.340 So they're saying there,

00:19:57.260 settler, settler, you will learn.

00:19:59.080 By the millions will return.

00:20:00.500 And that's actually been sort of the central sticking point

00:20:04.380 of like Israel-Palestine conflict

00:20:06.260 for the entire history of it.

00:20:08.000 We will return.

00:20:09.280 That slogan they use,

00:20:10.740 from the river to the sea,

00:20:12.160 which is from the Jordan River

00:20:13.280 to the Mediterranean Sea.

00:20:14.700 That's the elimination of Israel

00:20:16.060 is what they're saying.

00:20:16.640 It is the elimination of Israel.

00:20:17.020 That's not an exaggeration.

00:20:18.300 Or at least when they say,

00:20:20.100 you'll sometimes hear them say the right of return.

00:20:22.280 And what that essentially is,

00:20:23.180 is it's a demand for at minimum,

00:20:24.940 like an open border with Palestine,

00:20:26.680 which is they all have the right to move back

00:20:28.460 into the rest of Israel proper.

00:20:31.700 And that is the idea of decolonization to them,

00:20:34.480 that to remove any of the Jewish portions of Israel

00:20:37.860 from being the Jewish portions of it.

00:20:40.420 And especially in the past,

00:20:42.680 that was really big,

00:20:43.280 because if they did that,

00:20:44.060 they would outnumber them.

00:20:44.880 At this point,

00:20:45.340 that would no longer be the case.

00:20:46.720 And so that introduces a different dynamic,

00:20:48.820 where sometimes you'll even see

00:20:49.960 very pro-Israel people say,

00:20:51.800 like the solution to this

00:20:52.800 is they should just forcibly annex Gaza

00:20:55.420 and the West Strip,

00:20:56.620 and the West Bank,

00:20:58.460 and say,

00:20:59.720 you know,

00:21:00.160 you guys are all in our country now,

00:21:01.940 and we're still the majority deal with it.

00:21:03.980 It's a very strange thing.

00:21:05.720 But that actually might be

00:21:06.820 what the best outcome is,

00:21:07.660 because if we want to talk about colonialism,

00:21:09.780 like what is the best thing

00:21:10.820 to have happened to

00:21:12.040 the Eastern Mediterranean

00:21:13.480 in the last thousand years?

00:21:16.200 It's the fact that now

00:21:17.400 there is a Jewish majority country there

00:21:20.460 that has made it a first-world place to live.

00:21:22.920 Was this area of the world

00:21:24.900 ever that nice to live in before then?

00:21:26.880 Not really since the Romans

00:21:28.000 bulldozed it 2,000 years ago.

00:21:29.940 It was war.

00:21:30.820 It was often war-torn.

00:21:32.340 It was backwards.

00:21:33.480 It was like a desert place.

00:21:34.660 It was certainly not prosperous.

00:21:36.400 And now it's the exact difference.

00:21:38.660 It's one of the richest countries in the world.

00:21:40.240 It's a huge agricultural producer.

00:21:42.260 It has industry.

00:21:44.020 It has a high-tech industry.

00:21:45.620 And the portions of the Near East

00:21:48.080 that are not owned by Israel

00:21:49.920 are basically terrible.

00:21:51.100 And probably the single best thing

00:21:52.340 that could happen

00:21:52.860 is if they actually were running

00:21:54.360 the West Bank and Gaza

00:21:55.900 to the same extent

00:21:56.620 they're running everywhere else.

00:21:57.040 Isn't it the root of

00:21:58.400 the defense of civilization

00:22:00.300 which was made possible

00:22:01.360 thanks to colonialism,

00:22:02.780 this idea that

00:22:03.700 some ideas are better than others

00:22:07.080 and some form of civilization

00:22:08.500 is more preferable for humanity?

00:22:11.480 And they don't like that.

00:22:12.740 They believe,

00:22:13.580 and they don't even believe it,

00:22:14.600 what they say they believe

00:22:15.920 is this fake egalitarianism

00:22:18.600 that all cultures are equal.

00:22:20.380 Who are you to say

00:22:21.300 that Western society

00:22:22.820 is better than Huma?

00:22:24.920 Exactly.

00:22:25.520 It really is.

00:22:26.560 And I think a lot of it

00:22:27.520 is ultimately rooted in envy.

00:22:29.720 It's very traumatic

00:22:30.520 if you're in a culture

00:22:32.080 to look around and say

00:22:33.340 we're starving half the time,

00:22:36.760 we've not created any,

00:22:38.580 we're poor,

00:22:39.840 we've not created any art

00:22:41.200 that other people aspire to,

00:22:42.600 and then other cultures

00:22:44.040 are just throwing it out constantly.

00:22:46.380 Like, even if you're a European,

00:22:48.080 you look at what's accomplished

00:22:48.940 in a country like England

00:22:50.040 and you're just filled

00:22:51.080 with seething envy

00:22:52.440 at what they've done.

00:22:53.500 They launched

00:22:54.480 the Industrial Revolution

00:22:55.460 and you could be like,

00:22:56.160 oh, well, they're just,

00:22:57.120 you know,

00:22:57.300 they're only worried about money

00:22:58.220 except they also write

00:22:59.460 the best books

00:23:00.600 and they've produced

00:23:01.600 many of the best painters.

00:23:03.040 That's right.

00:23:03.500 They just dominate like crazy.

00:23:05.980 And this causes

00:23:07.080 so much seething resentment

00:23:08.420 and often the way

00:23:09.800 this manifests is

00:23:10.860 the only way they can cope

00:23:12.020 is they just want to smash

00:23:13.220 at all the pieces.

00:23:14.900 You know,

00:23:15.140 after they decolonized

00:23:17.380 parts of Africa,

00:23:18.320 in Kenya, for example,

00:23:19.260 there were these kind of estates

00:23:20.880 that the Europeans had in Kenya

00:23:22.200 and they didn't just

00:23:23.560 take them over.

00:23:24.800 They actually sent in bulldozers

00:23:27.340 and they destroyed

00:23:28.440 what was already there.

00:23:30.080 And the reasoning was

00:23:31.180 that these were estates,

00:23:32.540 you know,

00:23:32.680 for just a handful of Englishmen

00:23:33.860 and we're going to let

00:23:34.540 thousands of Kenyans survive

00:23:36.360 and, you know,

00:23:37.120 make these rich plantations

00:23:38.540 there and such.

00:23:39.680 But instead,

00:23:40.580 often they just fell into ruins

00:23:42.000 after they did that.

00:23:43.320 And that's often what

00:23:44.280 decolonization looks like

00:23:45.600 in practice.

00:23:46.280 It's kill a ton of people,

00:23:47.860 destroy,

00:23:48.540 burn everything down,

00:23:49.860 you know,

00:23:50.780 plunder the wine cellar

00:23:51.840 and drink all of it

00:23:52.540 even though that's not

00:23:53.220 allowed in Islam.

00:23:54.540 And then you look around

00:23:55.720 afterwards and you're like,

00:23:56.500 well, we did it.

00:23:57.340 You're smiling over

00:23:58.360 a smoldering ruin.

00:24:00.300 Kind of like what we saw

00:24:01.100 in Baltimore and Minneapolis,

00:24:02.480 doesn't it?

00:24:03.780 So,

00:24:04.180 Tyler or Jack,

00:24:06.900 whichever one wants to take it.

00:24:10.060 Colonization.

00:24:11.340 Sorry,

00:24:11.700 I was hearing somebody talk

00:24:12.640 to some news report

00:24:13.560 in my ear.

00:24:14.040 It's very strange.

00:24:15.800 Yeah,

00:24:16.380 someone's on the side

00:24:17.380 of the street or something.

00:24:19.180 Jack or Tyler,

00:24:20.060 just start talking.

00:24:22.140 Well,

00:24:22.480 you know,

00:24:23.380 I think

00:24:23.700 one of the most interesting

00:24:25.900 parts of this debate

00:24:26.880 is,

00:24:28.780 you know,

00:24:29.140 and I think

00:24:29.680 this is really

00:24:30.180 going to expose it

00:24:31.180 in Europe

00:24:31.800 and I think

00:24:32.200 this is where

00:24:32.540 you're going to see

00:24:33.020 the,

00:24:34.340 and again,

00:24:35.460 I don't know,

00:24:36.120 Jack,

00:24:36.360 if you want to go

00:24:36.760 down this road at all

00:24:37.620 and talk about this,

00:24:39.020 but I think

00:24:40.440 that rhetoric

00:24:41.580 that they're using

00:24:43.260 in Israel,

00:24:44.780 you know,

00:24:45.640 a lot of Europeans

00:24:46.380 start going,

00:24:46.860 wait a minute,

00:24:47.820 you're taking over

00:24:48.600 our country

00:24:49.240 and there's a lot,

00:24:50.960 Islam is taking over

00:24:51.980 our country

00:24:52.600 and so

00:24:53.140 if you believe that,

00:24:54.720 then you need to get out

00:24:55.940 of our country

00:24:57.060 in Europe

00:24:57.460 and,

00:24:58.720 you know,

00:24:58.860 we're seeing

00:24:59.380 this wave,

00:25:00.320 you know,

00:25:00.500 particularly in the

00:25:01.320 northern parts of Europe

00:25:02.600 that have been just like,

00:25:03.920 kind of just like,

00:25:04.560 oh,

00:25:04.800 you're welcome to come here

00:25:05.860 and now they're going,

00:25:07.620 wait a minute,

00:25:08.060 in Norway and Sweden

00:25:09.160 and other places,

00:25:10.640 now they're starting

00:25:11.060 to get really uncomfortable

00:25:11.800 because it looks like

00:25:13.700 Muslims are going to be

00:25:15.260 the,

00:25:16.640 that's going to be

00:25:17.280 the number one religion

00:25:18.080 very quickly

00:25:18.860 in many of those countries

00:25:20.940 and so it's like

00:25:21.800 if it,

00:25:22.100 if it,

00:25:22.780 if it makes sense,

00:25:24.700 if that argument

00:25:25.740 makes sense

00:25:26.440 for Palestinians

00:25:27.140 and Israel,

00:25:28.100 what is the argument

00:25:29.180 in Europe?

00:25:33.940 Jack?

00:25:36.500 Well,

00:25:36.980 and of course,

00:25:37.580 you know,

00:25:37.880 you look at all this,

00:25:39.040 right,

00:25:39.680 so,

00:25:40.120 and you can say

00:25:40.980 this writ large,

00:25:41.720 so this is,

00:25:42.380 it's communism

00:25:43.160 but it's also,

00:25:44.200 which is sort of morphed

00:25:45.580 into a sort of

00:25:46.360 third worldism

00:25:47.320 from a historic perspective,

00:25:49.020 I think we really need

00:25:49.960 to point out

00:25:50.380 that what we're dealing

00:25:51.420 with here

00:25:51.980 in all of this

00:25:52.760 is just the detritus

00:25:54.180 of the breakup

00:25:54.960 of the Soviet Union,

00:25:56.440 so the PLO

00:25:58.320 was set up

00:25:59.640 originally

00:26:00.100 by the KGB,

00:26:01.340 I mean,

00:26:01.500 this is pretty well known,

00:26:03.240 the first leaders

00:26:04.060 of the Palestinian,

00:26:05.660 was it the National Congress

00:26:06.860 or whatever they tried

00:26:07.640 to say,

00:26:08.480 they were basically

00:26:09.320 picked directly

00:26:10.600 by Moscow,

00:26:11.420 this is back

00:26:11.940 in the 1960s,

00:26:13.020 and this was part

00:26:13.820 of that whole process

00:26:14.980 of you sort of had

00:26:15.700 like the US-backed group,

00:26:17.560 the Western-backed groups,

00:26:18.620 and it's Cold War era stuff,

00:26:19.980 it's all Cold War era stuff,

00:26:21.120 right,

00:26:21.240 that's the way to put it,

00:26:21.880 so these groups

00:26:23.400 and then Hamas,

00:26:24.360 which is sort of

00:26:24.740 like the successor

00:26:25.420 organization to the PLO,

00:26:27.580 all have these

00:26:28.920 proto-Soviet connections

00:26:31.520 because of the way

00:26:32.420 they were founded,

00:26:33.020 there's Ojalon

00:26:34.340 down in Kurdistan

00:26:36.020 with the Kurds

00:26:36.680 is the exact same way,

00:26:37.800 what do you call it,

00:26:38.620 like democratic,

00:26:39.960 you know,

00:26:40.600 inter-socialism

00:26:41.680 or something,

00:26:43.060 there's basically

00:26:44.140 there's a reason

00:26:44.720 that you see

00:26:45.160 all these groups

00:26:45.940 flying their sort of,

00:26:47.840 you know,

00:26:48.060 third world nationalist flag

00:26:49.900 along with the hammer

00:26:51.440 and sickle

00:26:52.180 and then they stand

00:26:53.040 in solidarity

00:26:53.560 with all the other

00:26:54.700 Marxist groups

00:26:56.060 like BLM,

00:26:57.200 which they perfectly said

00:26:58.380 are a Marxist group

00:27:00.460 and so,

00:27:02.360 and you get obviously

00:27:03.240 this mix of Islam

00:27:04.400 is kind of in there as well,

00:27:05.920 but,

00:27:06.460 you know,

00:27:06.660 when they're chanting

00:27:08.120 Allah Akbar,

00:27:09.360 they're not actually praying

00:27:11.160 when they're saying that,

00:27:12.200 they just know

00:27:12.780 that's something

00:27:13.220 that you say

00:27:13.880 when you kill somebody

00:27:14.960 and I think

00:27:16.160 that most Americans

00:27:16.960 were probably right

00:27:17.820 about that

00:27:18.380 at the end of,

00:27:20.060 at the end of 9-11,

00:27:23.780 when 9-11 happened

00:27:24.420 and so,

00:27:25.800 when you're trying

00:27:26.680 to actually have

00:27:27.740 a serious conversation

00:27:29.140 about any of this,

00:27:30.160 you run into this problem

00:27:31.960 where you're just,

00:27:32.660 you're starting

00:27:33.260 to take these people seriously

00:27:34.520 and starting to take

00:27:35.600 the ideology seriously,

00:27:36.580 but it's not

00:27:37.180 and Blake is 100% right

00:27:38.480 and,

00:27:39.760 and,

00:27:40.200 you know,

00:27:40.660 you know,

00:27:41.000 right down the date

00:27:41.660 because you're not

00:27:42.120 going to hear me

00:27:42.420 say that often,

00:27:42.960 but Blake's 100% right,

00:27:44.680 that these guys,

00:27:46.060 it's all envy,

00:27:46.940 it's envy,

00:27:47.820 it's greed,

00:27:48.860 it's jealousy

00:27:49.700 and,

00:27:50.800 and then ultimately

00:27:51.740 compounds

00:27:52.980 with the other

00:27:54.260 and as Charlie,

00:27:55.080 you know,

00:27:55.380 this is sinful,

00:27:56.180 this is part playing

00:27:57.220 on our sinful nature

00:27:58.440 and there's a reason

00:28:00.020 that we have

00:28:00.660 two commandments

00:28:02.200 against what?

00:28:03.940 Against covetousness,

00:28:05.600 right?

00:28:05.880 Two commandments

00:28:06.600 about this

00:28:07.240 because it was that strong

00:28:09.200 that covetousness

00:28:10.380 was so bad

00:28:11.580 for the human spirit

00:28:13.320 and human nature

00:28:14.060 that we have

00:28:14.540 two commandments

00:28:15.400 specifically about

00:28:16.360 different types

00:28:17.120 of covetousness,

00:28:18.240 one on,

00:28:19.380 one on goods,

00:28:21.380 one on women's spouses

00:28:23.420 that if you come up

00:28:26.700 with some sort

00:28:27.360 of ideology,

00:28:28.440 some sort of rationalization

00:28:29.860 or justification

00:28:30.820 to turn envy

00:28:32.660 into a political movement,

00:28:34.240 it will always

00:28:35.320 turn out this way

00:28:36.240 and it's always

00:28:37.160 going to turn out

00:28:38.000 this way,

00:28:38.580 it always has

00:28:39.400 turned out this way,

00:28:40.440 whether it's Rwanda,

00:28:41.800 whether it's

00:28:42.840 the Palestinians,

00:28:44.580 whether it's Russia,

00:28:45.940 whether it's China,

00:28:47.000 whether it's France,

00:28:48.680 again and again

00:28:49.820 and again,

00:28:50.580 this will play out

00:28:51.540 if you feed

00:28:52.900 into these negative emotions

00:28:54.860 and when I,

00:28:57.980 I guess what I'm trying

00:28:59.900 to say is that

00:29:00.660 you can make

00:29:02.700 a lot of money

00:29:03.300 running around

00:29:04.600 and walking people

00:29:06.040 through all this stuff,

00:29:06.760 but at the end of the day,

00:29:07.280 you're just going

00:29:07.640 to come back

00:29:07.940 to what Blake said.

00:29:08.800 So let's continue

00:29:09.480 this kind of colonization talk.

00:29:11.060 Blake,

00:29:11.320 some of them will say

00:29:11.840 but it displaces

00:29:12.680 native tribes

00:29:13.380 and it destroys

00:29:14.000 their original culture.

00:29:16.180 How would you respond

00:29:17.120 to that, Blake?

00:29:18.060 Well, first of all,

00:29:19.040 not being colonized

00:29:20.100 also is constant displacement,

00:29:21.840 constant warfare.

00:29:22.660 Like, humanity is,

00:29:24.220 you know,

00:29:24.420 before modern civilization,

00:29:26.620 humanity is like

00:29:27.500 almost a Hobbesian state

00:29:28.680 of war of all against all

00:29:29.900 or at least

00:29:30.280 war of my group

00:29:32.420 against your group.

00:29:33.260 It's not a very fun way

00:29:35.180 to live for a lot of people.

00:29:36.320 It certainly is devoid

00:29:38.180 of a lot of the things

00:29:39.080 we take for granted today.

00:29:40.820 You know,

00:29:40.940 a thing you said

00:29:41.420 on Twitter the other day

00:29:42.340 is that, you know,

00:29:43.160 overall colonization

00:29:44.340 has been a net positive

00:29:45.680 to the world.

00:29:46.560 I've got the tweet

00:29:47.640 in front of me.

00:29:48.720 Colonizers brought

00:29:49.520 superior values,

00:29:51.120 institutions,

00:29:52.180 philosophy,

00:29:53.120 technology,

00:29:54.240 and norms

00:29:55.000 to the rest of the world.

00:29:56.760 Colonialism brought order

00:29:57.860 to a world of chaos

00:29:58.700 and it dragged

00:29:59.200 a world of darkness

00:30:00.220 into the light.

00:30:01.920 And is that true

00:30:02.960 in every single case?

00:30:04.320 Absolutely not.

00:30:05.100 There are certainly

00:30:06.140 a lot of wars,

00:30:07.200 certainly a lot of atrocities

00:30:08.300 associated with colonialism.

00:30:10.540 But, you know,

00:30:11.460 the end result is

00:30:12.360 like if you live

00:30:13.440 in a country

00:30:13.980 that was part

00:30:14.480 of the British Empire,

00:30:15.780 you're better now.

00:30:16.680 You are better now.

00:30:17.520 I mean, so I'll give you

00:30:18.240 an example.

00:30:18.700 I mean, if you go

00:30:19.060 through the Caribbean,

00:30:19.820 the Caribbean's

00:30:20.280 a really interesting

00:30:20.940 test case, right?

00:30:22.140 The wealthiest islands,

00:30:24.100 because they're basically

00:30:24.920 very similar cultures,

00:30:26.120 not all of them.

00:30:26.960 The wealthiest islands

00:30:28.060 are by far the ones

00:30:29.660 that embraced

00:30:30.700 British colonialism, right?

00:30:32.140 Like Grand Cayman,

00:30:34.040 Turks and Caicos,

00:30:34.980 the ones that are

00:30:35.520 the poorest,

00:30:36.760 like Haiti, for example,

00:30:38.340 which had, you know,

00:30:39.400 French-type roots

00:30:40.140 and they kicked them out,

00:30:41.180 didn't do too well, actually.

00:30:43.120 You know, and yeah,

00:30:43.780 Haiti, I mean,

00:30:44.600 you can understand

00:30:45.340 how Haiti came about the way

00:30:46.440 because Haiti was

00:30:47.220 a very grim slave colony.

00:30:49.180 No, I'm not defending

00:30:50.380 what was their prior,

00:30:51.360 but they're the poorest

00:30:52.960 by far nation

00:30:54.660 in the Caribbean.

00:30:55.200 The most fatal thing

00:30:56.220 they did is they launched

00:30:57.480 their slave revolution,

00:30:58.820 which succeeded.

00:30:59.640 Which was a moral thing

00:31:00.420 to do.

00:31:00.800 Very moral and understandable.

00:31:02.860 But then after that,

00:31:03.820 what their second leader did,

00:31:06.040 Dessalines,

00:31:06.740 I believe was his name,

00:31:07.940 he killed all the white people

00:31:09.960 on the island.

00:31:10.860 After they'd won,

00:31:11.860 they basically did

00:31:12.760 gruesome massacres.

00:31:14.000 Wait, so that's not

00:31:14.420 insignificant.

00:31:15.340 So let's actually

00:31:15.840 talk about Haiti.

00:31:16.700 So Haiti embraced

00:31:17.820 decolonization

00:31:18.780 as that Franz lunatic

00:31:20.380 would have written it.

00:31:21.360 How did it work out

00:31:22.160 for Haiti?

00:31:22.580 Well, they have been

00:31:24.100 the world's poorest country.

00:31:26.000 Like one of the poorest countries,

00:31:27.040 yes.

00:31:27.180 Pretty much the world's

00:31:27.720 poorest country ever since.

00:31:29.000 But the slaves overthrew

00:31:30.580 the masters.

00:31:31.560 It's so bad

00:31:33.660 at this point.

00:31:34.940 It's so bad

00:31:35.800 at this point

00:31:36.420 that you can't even do

00:31:37.980 the agriculture

00:31:39.260 that once made

00:31:40.140 Haiti prosperous

00:31:41.520 as a slave colony,

00:31:42.560 unfortunately.

00:31:43.180 But they can't even

00:31:43.840 imitate that as a free country

00:31:45.040 because the topsoil

00:31:46.680 has eroded away

00:31:47.440 so badly.

00:31:49.220 And, you know,

00:31:50.300 now it's...

00:31:50.640 So is it fair to say

00:31:51.500 that Haiti is a test case

00:31:52.880 in decolonization

00:31:54.060 the same way

00:31:54.620 that South Africa

00:31:55.260 is a test case

00:31:56.000 in critical race theory

00:31:57.360 like as an ideology

00:31:58.720 of your government?

00:31:59.760 Meaning like

00:32:00.200 we now know

00:32:00.820 what happens

00:32:01.340 if you try to decolonize.

00:32:02.560 It certainly shows

00:32:03.500 that if you go

00:32:04.180 maximum decolonization,

00:32:05.980 you're probably not going

00:32:06.780 to get the best outcome.

00:32:07.960 Whereas, yeah,

00:32:08.440 as you say,

00:32:09.120 states that lean into it.

00:32:10.860 Or another great example

00:32:11.840 to be honest

00:32:12.440 is let's take a look

00:32:13.940 at China.

00:32:14.840 Hong Kong is a British colony

00:32:16.540 up until the end

00:32:17.720 of the 20th century.

00:32:18.620 And what is the richest

00:32:19.820 part of China

00:32:20.520 in the People's Republic?

00:32:22.540 It's Hong Kong

00:32:23.220 because Hong Kong

00:32:24.380 has the strongest legacy

00:32:25.780 of a colonial institution

00:32:26.940 compared to

00:32:27.660 everywhere else in China

00:32:29.000 which, you know,

00:32:30.760 is under the People's Republic

00:32:31.900 practicing Marxism

00:32:33.000 or, you know,

00:32:34.260 was under this, like,

00:32:35.140 imperial regime

00:32:36.140 that they had before that.

00:32:38.240 And, you know,

00:32:38.760 Singapore,

00:32:39.680 also a British colony,

00:32:40.740 also amazingly successful

00:32:42.100 relative even to the rest

00:32:43.660 of Southeast Asia.

00:32:44.940 Yeah, but finish your thought

00:32:46.340 then.

00:32:47.080 India was a British colony.

00:32:48.380 India was a British colony

00:32:49.360 and, you know,

00:32:50.080 again, this is a good example.

00:32:51.100 It's not always good.

00:32:51.880 There were major wars

00:32:53.000 in India

00:32:53.420 that the British

00:32:54.040 had to go through

00:32:54.780 to establish themselves

00:32:56.060 but it grows enormously.

00:32:58.400 And then here's

00:32:58.820 the really telling thing

00:32:59.660 is after they become

00:33:00.660 independent,

00:33:01.640 they react against

00:33:03.040 much of this.

00:33:03.740 They embrace a lot

00:33:04.340 of Soviet economic theory

00:33:05.640 and India's very stagnant

00:33:07.960 for decades

00:33:08.980 before they kind of learn,

00:33:11.480 you know,

00:33:12.000 those guys had a point

00:33:12.960 and they embrace

00:33:13.820 a lot of more

00:33:15.000 free market norms,

00:33:16.160 stuff that we would regard

00:33:17.080 as more overall

00:33:18.320 Western

00:33:18.640 and then they're finally

00:33:19.580 growing to reach

00:33:20.840 the potential

00:33:21.380 that everyone knew

00:33:22.140 they had a century ago

00:33:23.360 but they had kind of

00:33:24.720 a lost half century

00:33:25.720 in between those times.

00:33:27.840 So I want to zero in

00:33:29.360 on just one element

00:33:30.240 of this

00:33:30.600 that you mentioned.

00:33:32.320 The inheritance

00:33:33.000 of colonization

00:33:33.940 can be common law,

00:33:35.540 the respect

00:33:36.100 of private property.

00:33:37.460 We know

00:33:38.140 that if you have that

00:33:39.300 as an inheritance,

00:33:40.420 your country

00:33:41.060 will be far better off

00:33:42.180 than witch doctors

00:33:43.540 in Haiti.

00:33:44.560 For sure,

00:33:44.980 for sure.

00:33:45.480 You get laws,

00:33:47.280 institutions.

00:33:48.080 I mean,

00:33:48.880 often colonialism,

00:33:51.300 you know,

00:33:51.940 them setting up

00:33:52.940 a native parliament

00:33:53.880 to run the government

00:33:54.640 on the way out

00:33:55.160 is the first time

00:33:55.720 they have a democratic

00:33:56.980 government of any sort.

00:33:58.940 And all of these,

00:34:01.040 so many things

00:34:01.900 that we would take

00:34:02.620 as granted,

00:34:03.400 constitutional rights,

00:34:04.640 freedom of speech,

00:34:05.360 a lot of these

00:34:06.820 are just inherently

00:34:08.040 a Western legacy

00:34:08.960 which we learned

00:34:10.440 at a grave price.

00:34:12.140 It was very difficult

00:34:12.840 for us to learn

00:34:14.420 these lessons ourselves.

00:34:15.980 And to an extent,

00:34:17.480 places that got colonized,

00:34:18.680 even if it was traumatic,

00:34:19.940 were essentially

00:34:20.380 given an opportunity

00:34:21.440 to be brought up

00:34:22.740 to Europe's level

00:34:24.300 far faster

00:34:25.240 than Europe itself

00:34:26.160 was able to get

00:34:26.820 to that point initially.

00:34:28.700 And places that lean

00:34:29.860 into that legacy

00:34:30.660 do very well.

00:34:32.460 Places that actively

00:34:33.580 reject that legacy

00:34:34.640 wherever they are

00:34:36.440 don't do as well.

00:34:38.180 And, you know,

00:34:38.560 what's one of the most

00:34:39.400 Westernized countries

00:34:40.540 in Asia?

00:34:41.360 It's Japan

00:34:41.880 because they actively

00:34:44.240 decided to embrace it

00:34:45.300 after, you know,

00:34:46.020 the United States

00:34:46.600 opened up Japan.

00:34:47.560 They almost go insane

00:34:49.040 trying to imitate us.

00:34:49.900 They start dressing

00:34:50.780 the same way we do,

00:34:51.900 like it's magical.

00:34:53.820 They copy, you know,

00:34:56.060 the uniforms

00:34:56.660 that their soldiers wear,

00:34:57.760 they copy from Europeans

00:34:59.700 because they're just like,

00:35:00.440 there's something,

00:35:01.240 they have something.

00:35:02.300 And the result is

00:35:02.980 they grow enormously

00:35:03.940 after World War II.

00:35:05.360 They copy us even more.

00:35:06.440 They get a Western-style

00:35:07.480 parliamentary government.

00:35:08.940 Which is great.

00:35:09.480 You should copy Western ideas.

00:35:11.000 Copy us.

00:35:11.660 The West is the best.

00:35:13.320 Jack, your thoughts on this.

00:35:14.460 West is the best.

00:35:15.280 We should be

00:35:15.920 not just clear,

00:35:18.420 but unapologetic.

00:35:19.740 We should be proud.

00:35:20.740 We should have,

00:35:21.320 honestly,

00:35:22.180 these countries

00:35:22.660 should be thanking us

00:35:23.660 that we brought them

00:35:24.700 the work of Blackstone

00:35:26.580 and the breakthroughs

00:35:28.000 of the Western tradition.

00:35:29.200 That is an outgrowth

00:35:30.120 of the biblical canon.

00:35:32.540 They progressed a lot more

00:35:33.780 than the scalping

00:35:35.440 and earth worship

00:35:36.540 of the Navajo Indians.

00:35:40.100 Yeah, Cortez did nothing wrong.

00:35:43.060 This idea

00:35:44.300 that we could have let

00:35:45.460 the child sacrifices continue

00:35:47.900 that were being practiced

00:35:49.460 not just throughout Mesoamerica

00:35:51.340 and South America,

00:35:52.360 but also all the way up

00:35:54.460 as far north

00:35:55.400 as right across

00:35:56.940 the Mississippi River

00:35:58.220 from St. Louis

00:36:00.120 there's these ancient

00:36:03.580 Indian burial grounds

00:36:04.860 where people have gone in

00:36:05.720 and looked at these things

00:36:06.680 where they're filled

00:36:08.180 with the bodies

00:36:09.120 of teenage girls,

00:36:10.920 with the bodies

00:36:11.740 of young children.

00:36:13.260 People believed

00:36:14.080 that they were being done

00:36:15.340 to produce

00:36:16.080 greater agriculture,

00:36:18.080 greater yield.

00:36:19.340 You know,

00:36:19.540 then we're all told,

00:36:20.500 but oh, no, no, no.

00:36:21.560 See, Squanto taught

00:36:22.560 the Indians farm,

00:36:24.260 or excuse me,

00:36:24.880 Squanto taught

00:36:25.520 the pilgrims farming.

00:36:27.280 So that's what they taught.

00:36:28.320 Yeah, except they leave out

00:36:29.120 the fact that Squanto

00:36:30.320 learned all that

00:36:31.780 from Europeans

00:36:32.580 because he had actually

00:36:33.700 lived in Europe

00:36:34.480 before he came back

00:36:35.500 to the United States.

00:36:38.480 It's completely insane

00:36:39.800 what was going on

00:36:40.500 in many of these cultures.

00:36:42.100 And one thing,

00:36:42.740 by the way,

00:36:43.080 just as an anecdote,

00:36:44.320 which I think is hilarious,

00:36:45.980 is,

00:36:46.900 and Blake,

00:36:47.340 I think you'd appreciate this

00:36:48.160 because it lines up

00:36:48.800 with what you're saying,

00:36:49.520 is I started this meme,

00:36:51.780 I don't even know

00:36:52.320 how you call it,

00:36:53.020 but I started this whole meme

00:36:54.080 about whether or not

00:36:56.680 your ancestors

00:36:57.380 developed wheels

00:36:58.400 in their country

00:36:59.260 because we made this meme

00:37:01.340 of Columbus

00:37:01.840 getting to the United States,

00:37:03.060 or getting to,

00:37:03.720 you know,

00:37:03.920 the new world,

00:37:04.520 I should say,

00:37:05.180 getting to the new world

00:37:06.060 and him saying,

00:37:07.920 wait a minute,

00:37:08.500 you've been here for how long?

00:37:10.080 Where are your wheels?

00:37:11.500 Where is your bronze?

00:37:12.700 Where are your ships?

00:37:13.600 Where are your roads?

00:37:15.040 And then it's amazing

00:37:16.420 because so many people,

00:37:18.900 liberals,

00:37:19.400 and even some conservatives too,

00:37:21.180 will go back to that completely idiotic book

00:37:24.720 from the 1990s

00:37:25.960 called Guns, Germs, and Steel

00:37:28.340 and try to use all of these types

00:37:31.180 of like legalistic

00:37:32.900 and mental arguments

00:37:36.060 to get out of the fact

00:37:37.280 that these civilizations

00:37:38.680 were not able to develop wheels independently,

00:37:42.180 that they were pulling things around

00:37:45.280 for thousands and thousands of years

00:37:47.740 and essentially Columbus and Cortez

00:37:50.900 and the other explorers.

00:37:53.020 They encountered a Stone Age group of people,

00:37:57.600 a Stone Age people

00:37:58.540 when they arrived on the American shores,

00:38:01.580 a group of people

00:38:02.380 that responded thusly in many cases,

00:38:05.640 by the way,

00:38:06.900 and basically it's as simple as this.

00:38:10.000 So the meme ends up like this.

00:38:11.440 I will not sit here

00:38:12.880 and be lectured to

00:38:14.440 by the descendants of wheel-less people.

00:38:16.880 Okay, so,

00:38:19.880 and I love that.

00:38:21.420 And it's also more evolution,

00:38:22.700 not just a technological one, Blake.

00:38:24.000 Let me contribute

00:38:25.500 one kind of thought on this biblically.

00:38:28.940 I said this on the show.

00:38:29.800 So there's a lot of talks about,

00:38:30.880 you know,

00:38:31.100 Hamas coming and raping the women.

00:38:33.060 Blake, you know history better

00:38:34.100 than anybody that I know.

00:38:35.540 Raping of women

00:38:36.340 was normative in the ancient world

00:38:38.260 and even up until recently, correct?

00:38:40.660 I mean,

00:38:41.740 it's pretty natural,

00:38:43.180 I would say.

00:38:43.740 In war time.

00:38:44.860 You know,

00:38:45.120 if you want to get an example

00:38:46.100 of what maybe all, like,

00:38:47.640 Stone Age people are like,

00:38:48.800 you could look at, you know,

00:38:50.500 some of the Indian tribes in America,

00:38:51.900 like the Comanches.

00:38:52.640 So the Comanches were this tribe

00:38:54.200 on the plains

00:38:54.920 and they would launch raids

00:38:56.800 into Texas,

00:38:57.620 into Mexico

00:38:58.120 and what do they do?

00:39:00.400 They go for captives

00:39:01.440 and unfortunately,

00:39:02.200 what do they do

00:39:02.600 if they take women as captives?

00:39:04.700 They're raped immediately

00:39:06.340 and they're taken back

00:39:07.520 and that is basically

00:39:08.740 what happens to them after that

00:39:10.460 and they would also, like,

00:39:11.660 torture them, you know,

00:39:12.320 they would burn them with hot coals.

00:39:13.560 Like, what is, you know,

00:39:14.360 the most basic primal thing

00:39:15.620 humans kind of like to do?

00:39:16.600 They kind of like to inflict

00:39:17.620 suffering on people

00:39:18.600 and it is a long process

00:39:20.600 of moral evolution

00:39:21.440 to overcome that

00:39:22.340 and this is a moral evolution

00:39:25.140 that thankfully,

00:39:26.220 you know,

00:39:26.500 under the influence

00:39:27.100 of things like Christianity,

00:39:28.360 the West began to go through.

00:39:30.140 I was telling you,

00:39:31.080 you know,

00:39:31.580 500 years ago,

00:39:33.040 the code of the Holy Roman Empire,

00:39:35.000 Charles V,

00:39:35.820 has the death penalty for rape

00:39:37.340 and this applies to soldiers

00:39:38.460 in wartime as well.

00:39:39.780 Not always perfectly administered

00:39:41.320 but that is the law.

00:39:42.740 400 years ago,

00:39:43.640 the Swedish military

00:39:44.600 under Gustavus Adolphus,

00:39:46.480 death penalty

00:39:47.460 if you commit rape.

00:39:48.480 As a victorious soldier

00:39:49.680 in the king's army,

00:39:50.740 if you do this,

00:39:51.360 you will be shot.

00:39:52.500 Napoleon,

00:39:53.120 he goes to Egypt

00:39:53.900 and he puts out a statement

00:39:54.900 to his men.

00:39:55.520 He says,

00:39:56.280 everywhere in the world,

00:39:57.360 a man who commits rape

00:39:58.280 is regarded as a monster

00:39:59.340 and if you do that

00:40:00.220 here in Egypt,

00:40:01.300 I will shoot you.

00:40:02.500 The Union military,

00:40:03.580 during the Civil War,

00:40:04.840 we hang men

00:40:06.100 who are convicted of rape.

00:40:07.340 Dozens of them.

00:40:08.380 We do it during World War II.

00:40:10.760 You know,

00:40:11.320 I think World War II

00:40:12.320 would be considered a time

00:40:13.260 that's pretty intense

00:40:14.300 where we're,

00:40:14.960 you know,

00:40:15.460 willing to go all out

00:40:16.580 for victory

00:40:17.180 and yet we still say,

00:40:18.280 that is not acceptable

00:40:19.320 to behavior to do in our army.

00:40:20.940 We will hang you

00:40:21.600 if you do that.

00:40:22.560 And then,

00:40:23.120 now we go to Hamas,

00:40:24.700 which is,

00:40:25.060 this is civilization

00:40:26.040 versus barbarism.

00:40:27.320 Yes.

00:40:27.500 They are certainly more,

00:40:28.420 they have more technology,

00:40:29.860 more modernism,

00:40:30.780 more access to modern,

00:40:32.180 more in the world.

00:40:32.260 They have Wi-Fi,

00:40:32.920 they have smartphones.

00:40:33.400 They have Wi-Fi.

00:40:34.440 They have access

00:40:35.440 to the full gamut

00:40:36.480 of, you know,

00:40:37.660 moral texts,

00:40:38.480 moral lessons,

00:40:39.120 anything you want.

00:40:40.420 They live better than,

00:40:42.060 you know,

00:40:42.500 they live better than

00:40:43.320 a lot of, like,

00:40:44.260 millionaires lived

00:40:45.220 200 years ago

00:40:46.260 and yet,

00:40:47.240 they still embrace atrocities

00:40:49.620 like raping women

00:40:50.980 and this outburst

00:40:51.800 of savage violence

00:40:52.700 and it's because

00:40:53.340 they are rejecting

00:40:54.620 the moral lessons

00:40:56.440 that come with,

00:40:57.560 you know,

00:40:58.000 with civilization.

00:40:59.480 It is not just a,

00:41:00.300 it's when they say

00:41:01.040 they want to decolonize,

00:41:02.440 they mean decolonize

00:41:03.300 morally too

00:41:03.940 and one of the,

00:41:04.980 you know,

00:41:05.260 moral takeaways

00:41:06.200 of the West

00:41:08.140 that we have spread

00:41:08.800 to the rest of the world

00:41:09.460 is, yeah,

00:41:09.980 you can't just

00:41:10.940 rape people

00:41:12.140 because you

00:41:13.240 invaded their house.

00:41:14.680 You can't just

00:41:15.580 enslave a defeated enemy.

00:41:17.320 That's another thing

00:41:17.820 we spread to the world,

00:41:18.680 the abolition of slavery.

00:41:19.980 The West did not invent slavery

00:41:21.420 but we did end slavery.

00:41:23.780 And so,

00:41:24.340 let's talk about

00:41:25.360 kind of rape and war

00:41:27.180 because that was normative

00:41:28.420 until the Bible came along.

00:41:29.660 There's a very obscure

00:41:31.340 but unbelievably important

00:41:33.080 and applicable law

00:41:34.200 in Deuteronomy

00:41:34.940 where it says at war

00:41:37.380 if you come across

00:41:38.940 a female that you want,

00:41:40.580 you're not allowed

00:41:41.080 to touch her,

00:41:42.020 you cannot rape her,

00:41:43.500 if you want to keep her

00:41:44.400 as a wife,

00:41:44.960 you can bring her back home,

00:41:47.040 she has to mourn

00:41:48.000 her family for 30 days

00:41:49.900 and then you may only

00:41:51.780 touch her

00:41:52.440 if you marry her.

00:41:54.500 That's a massive

00:41:55.680 moral achievement

00:41:56.560 when you think about it.

00:41:57.400 It's certainly,

00:41:58.340 it's vastly more moral

00:41:59.600 than what Hamas

00:42:00.980 is practicing.

00:42:01.720 Well, no,

00:42:01.980 but you think about it,

00:42:02.620 I mean,

00:42:02.820 you have rape and murder

00:42:04.200 to this day

00:42:05.300 and it's a law

00:42:06.460 that they say

00:42:06.940 is from God

00:42:07.660 that the only way

00:42:09.740 you're allowed

00:42:10.300 to be with that woman

00:42:11.180 is by marriage

00:42:12.060 after 30 days

00:42:13.040 and honestly,

00:42:13.760 think about it,

00:42:14.240 it's like that woman

00:42:14.760 becomes less attractive

00:42:15.640 after she's been crying

00:42:16.540 in your house

00:42:16.940 for 30 days.

00:42:18.060 You must really want her

00:42:19.300 at that point.

00:42:19.720 It really is

00:42:20.320 one of the most important things

00:42:21.660 about the Judeo-Christian heritage

00:42:23.360 which is almost,

00:42:24.480 you know,

00:42:24.620 basically every human civilization

00:42:26.020 has a moral code

00:42:27.320 for members

00:42:28.080 of its own tribe.

00:42:29.200 Like, yeah,

00:42:29.580 definitely in,

00:42:31.640 even in, you know,

00:42:32.280 Hamas' society,

00:42:33.180 yeah,

00:42:33.340 if you rape another,

00:42:34.440 you know,

00:42:34.660 Palestinian in your society,

00:42:36.440 they'll probably kill you

00:42:37.580 and they might kill her too,

00:42:39.420 honor killings,

00:42:39.920 all of that nasty stuff.

00:42:41.140 But, you know,

00:42:41.920 they have very strict moral codes

00:42:43.180 within their tribe

00:42:43.840 but it's often

00:42:44.440 anyone outside the tribe

00:42:45.660 has no moral worth whatsoever.

00:42:47.340 You can do anything

00:42:48.100 you want to them

00:42:48.900 especially in one time.

00:42:50.120 When this was for non-Jewish women

00:42:51.120 in Deuteronomy 21,

00:42:52.400 that's the point.

00:42:53.080 And an important legacy

00:42:53.620 of, you know,

00:42:54.420 of Judeo-Christian morality

00:42:55.580 is the idea that actually

00:42:56.700 all people have

00:42:58.220 some kind of moral worth.

00:42:59.300 Yes, you must love

00:42:59.780 the stranger, it says.

00:43:01.300 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:43:02.540 And that is a hugely

00:43:03.480 important thing

00:43:04.260 and it is a gift of,

00:43:06.020 you know,

00:43:06.640 a gift of Christianity

00:43:07.420 to the world

00:43:08.320 that the West

00:43:09.360 spread that norm

00:43:10.580 to more places.

00:43:11.880 And the fact that

00:43:12.960 people don't know this

00:43:14.220 or don't acknowledge it

00:43:15.040 is really just proof

00:43:17.100 of how strong

00:43:17.900 that moral evolution was

00:43:20.600 that now we just

00:43:21.240 take it for granted.

00:43:21.780 Oh, of course,

00:43:22.740 everyone would do that.

00:43:23.640 But as we saw

00:43:24.380 this last weekend,

00:43:25.360 not everyone does that.

00:43:26.660 No, not at all.

00:43:27.220 In fact,

00:43:27.720 left to their own devices,

00:43:29.080 these people become

00:43:30.060 absolute unrestrained

00:43:31.740 savage animals.

00:43:33.780 So, Jack,

00:43:34.380 before we move on

00:43:35.140 to the next topic,

00:43:36.020 any closing thoughts

00:43:36.840 on the colonialist

00:43:37.900 or colonization?

00:43:39.980 Because with Columbus Day

00:43:41.720 and all of this,

00:43:42.820 you know,

00:43:43.060 we are told

00:43:43.760 that the indigenous people

00:43:45.180 were nothing

00:43:45.640 but these wonderful,

00:43:46.860 peace-loving people

00:43:47.740 never displaced

00:43:49.000 until the white man

00:43:50.060 came along.

00:43:51.180 Final thoughts on this, Jack.

00:43:53.000 Yeah, here's a final thought.

00:43:54.360 Miscuzi,

00:43:55.560 the child sacrifice

00:43:56.800 will stop.

00:43:58.160 We're so sorry.

00:43:59.160 Oh, no,

00:43:59.940 the far right are here.

00:44:01.360 They're stopping us

00:44:02.140 from sacrificing the babies.

00:44:04.300 Keep in mind, by the way,

00:44:05.020 just like on a factual note,

00:44:08.480 all of the other tribes

00:44:10.940 around the Aztecs

00:44:12.400 joined up with Cortes

00:44:14.640 to destroy the Aztecs,

00:44:17.180 all the Mexican tribes

00:44:18.020 outside of there,

00:44:19.160 the Mesoamerican tribes,

00:44:20.300 because the Aztecs

00:44:22.020 were forcing them

00:44:23.180 to give over their children

00:44:25.360 for sacrifice

00:44:26.760 to their pagan gods.

00:44:28.780 I'm sorry,

00:44:29.540 we're not doing this anymore.

00:44:31.600 No more child sacrifice,

00:44:33.640 no more baby killing.

00:44:34.860 This is one of the first things,

00:44:36.780 the first influences

00:44:37.540 you see out of the Old Testament

00:44:39.540 when God first starts

00:44:41.860 to make himself known

00:44:42.920 throughout the entire world,

00:44:45.280 which then, by the way,

00:44:46.500 of course,

00:44:47.140 is reflected in the story

00:44:48.840 of Christ,

00:44:50.320 where we see

00:44:51.200 God ends child sacrifice

00:44:53.360 by submitting

00:44:55.220 to have his own child

00:44:57.600 sacrificed for everyone else.

00:45:00.160 If you do not understand

00:45:01.760 that this is one of the central themes

00:45:03.360 of the Bible,

00:45:04.060 then I suggest you have not read

00:45:05.220 the actual book.

00:45:07.180 That's exactly right.

00:45:08.360 And child sacrifice

00:45:09.660 was normative and abundant.

00:45:11.540 In fact,

00:45:11.980 there are many laws

00:45:13.380 in the book of Leviticus

00:45:15.000 that talk about Molech,

00:45:16.840 which was the god

00:45:17.480 of child sacrifice.

00:45:18.100 And all these, like,

00:45:19.120 egghead intellectuals

00:45:19.960 in the 1800s

00:45:20.620 would be like,

00:45:20.900 this is obviously made up,

00:45:22.160 this is just war propaganda,

00:45:23.120 and then we excavated Carthage,

00:45:24.980 and they're like...

00:45:25.680 No, tell us about that.

00:45:26.520 That's not as obvious to me,

00:45:27.560 so what do you mean?

00:45:28.040 So I think Topher

00:45:28.840 is the name

00:45:29.380 for what they supposedly end up,

00:45:31.700 like these kind of

00:45:32.300 child graveyards.

00:45:33.420 And so in Carthage,

00:45:36.000 of course,

00:45:36.300 like even,

00:45:36.840 not even just Jewish writings,

00:45:38.380 there's even Roman writings

00:45:39.400 that are like Carthage...

00:45:40.180 Did they eat babies?

00:45:41.020 Was that right?

00:45:41.400 I don't think it was eating,

00:45:42.400 but not to my knowledge anyway.

00:45:44.120 But, you know,

00:45:44.600 the Romans,

00:45:45.200 they fight Carthage,

00:45:46.060 which is a Phoenician city,

00:45:47.020 so it's actually

00:45:47.560 the same culture group

00:45:48.860 as like the Canaanites.

00:45:50.840 And they always say,

00:45:52.260 like, the Carthaginians,

00:45:53.360 they sacrifice babies to Baal.

00:45:56.300 And a lot of people

00:45:57.620 just assumed, you know,

00:45:58.580 Rome fought these horrible wars

00:46:00.280 with Carthage,

00:46:01.020 three Punic wars.

00:46:02.100 They probably just made that up,

00:46:03.580 exaggerated this war propaganda

00:46:04.760 to justify conquering Carthage.

00:46:07.660 And people just assumed this

00:46:09.740 for hundreds of years.

00:46:11.240 And then we've been

00:46:11.900 excavating Carthage,

00:46:13.420 and they have found

00:46:14.660 these, like,

00:46:15.940 these child graveyards.

00:46:17.240 And one of the things about it

00:46:18.480 is another theory was,

00:46:19.880 well, maybe they, you know,

00:46:20.880 they just sacrificed infants

00:46:22.480 that were going to die anyway.

00:46:23.800 And so you take a sickly infant

00:46:25.400 and you say,

00:46:25.980 this is to Baal.

00:46:27.500 No, there are healthy infants

00:46:29.300 that are being sacrificed to Baal.

00:46:31.320 So they are deliberately

00:46:32.140 taking children who could live,

00:46:34.240 and they are sacrificing them

00:46:36.160 to a god.

00:46:37.680 Why they would do that?

00:46:39.260 We can only imagine

00:46:40.220 horrifying reasons to do it,

00:46:41.700 but it seems it was,

00:46:42.660 it was not propaganda.

00:46:44.360 It's amazing when you think about it.

00:46:46.480 There's, off the top of my head,

00:46:47.720 at least five major

00:46:49.280 ancient civilizations,

00:46:51.120 many of whom had never

00:46:52.080 had any contact with each other,

00:46:53.400 that all had institutional

00:46:55.860 public practices

00:46:56.920 of sacrificing children

00:46:58.020 on other sides of the world.

00:46:59.620 The Mayans,

00:47:00.600 the Aztecs,

00:47:01.460 the Egyptians,

00:47:03.020 Indus River Valley.

00:47:04.920 It's, again,

00:47:05.860 it's something we take for granted

00:47:07.200 that, oh, wait, you know,

00:47:08.800 children's lives

00:47:09.480 should be protected.

00:47:10.160 The innocent's lives

00:47:10.900 should be protected.

00:47:11.600 We should look out

00:47:12.360 for people who are helpless.

00:47:14.880 We should care for people

00:47:16.440 who have less than us.

00:47:17.440 And that's not

00:47:18.000 a natural human impulse at all.

00:47:19.840 No, it is taught.

00:47:21.580 It is, it is,

00:47:22.540 it is environmental.

00:47:23.740 I believe it's given to us

00:47:24.780 by God

00:47:25.900 to make the world

00:47:27.060 a better place,

00:47:28.220 a more moral place.

00:47:29.760 Okay,

00:47:30.060 and we're going to involve

00:47:30.940 Tyler here

00:47:31.460 because the next topic

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00:48:51.620 So Tyler,

00:48:52.760 I'm going to kind of

00:48:53.760 call on you here

00:48:54.640 because this has been

00:48:56.100 a fun kind of debate

00:48:57.380 within our chat.

00:48:59.000 Blake, myself,

00:49:00.100 and Jack

00:49:00.600 have had

00:49:01.260 very strong opinions

00:49:02.640 that RFK Jr.

00:49:04.680 running as an independent

00:49:05.960 will hurt Trump

00:49:07.180 more than Biden.

00:49:08.220 A couple weeks ago

00:49:09.260 you disagreed.

00:49:10.440 Do you still have

00:49:11.060 that opinion, Tyler?

00:49:12.060 And please,

00:49:12.600 walk us through all of it.

00:49:13.440 You're the political strategist here.

00:49:15.160 The floor is yours.

00:49:16.340 RFK is officially running

00:49:17.440 as an independent.

00:49:18.240 Well, nobody knows

00:49:19.400 what could happen with this.

00:49:20.600 So first off,

00:49:22.420 you know,

00:49:23.040 the takes,

00:49:23.880 the hot takes

00:49:24.420 could be totally wrong

00:49:25.220 on either side

00:49:25.920 because this is,

00:49:27.000 we're entering into

00:49:27.760 new territory

00:49:28.460 with an incumbent

00:49:30.540 president

00:49:31.420 who nobody likes,

00:49:32.880 no one even thinks

00:49:33.440 he's going to make it

00:49:34.060 to the presidency

00:49:34.680 next year

00:49:35.400 and to the race.

00:49:38.340 And then we have Trump

00:49:39.120 who is,

00:49:39.780 you know,

00:49:40.660 right in line

00:49:41.320 with national polling

00:49:42.420 and negatives

00:49:42.960 and everything else.

00:49:43.700 And so,

00:49:44.540 enter RFK.

00:49:45.660 And so I,

00:49:46.540 I'll tell you,

00:49:47.640 this is my take

00:49:48.500 and we can start this off

00:49:50.400 and have a discussion

00:49:51.400 about it,

00:49:52.040 but there is concern,

00:49:54.240 legitimate concern

00:49:55.000 that RFK

00:49:56.160 could swing

00:49:56.900 the votes

00:49:58.680 either way.

00:49:59.540 And I think

00:50:00.340 everybody's kind of

00:50:01.300 frozen right now

00:50:02.240 on both sides

00:50:02.940 because you're not

00:50:03.500 really seeing

00:50:04.240 a for or against

00:50:05.760 because when you know

00:50:07.100 that the Democrats

00:50:08.100 like really expose

00:50:08.940 themselves,

00:50:09.360 if they really thought

00:50:10.400 that RFK

00:50:11.760 was going to be

00:50:12.260 helpful to them,

00:50:13.260 they would be

00:50:13.880 promoting him

00:50:14.420 like crazy.

00:50:15.680 They're not doing that.

00:50:16.800 They hate him.

00:50:17.620 They're angry with him.

00:50:18.760 They're not providing

00:50:19.280 data to him.

00:50:20.540 He told them to go

00:50:21.140 F themselves.

00:50:21.980 And so,

00:50:22.820 you know,

00:50:23.060 that's where they're at.

00:50:24.520 And so I believe

00:50:25.960 that RFK

00:50:27.080 has a greater

00:50:29.260 likelihood of

00:50:30.100 pulling from

00:50:30.880 the Democrat base,

00:50:32.420 particularly in

00:50:33.120 specific states

00:50:33.960 on the East Coast

00:50:35.320 and in other places

00:50:36.100 that really matter

00:50:36.880 where he's more popular

00:50:38.520 and the family brand

00:50:39.680 is more popular

00:50:40.340 than he does

00:50:41.260 of hurting Trump.

00:50:42.560 Other people disagree,

00:50:43.900 but I just don't see

00:50:45.080 where you have

00:50:46.800 any kind of

00:50:47.820 interest at all

00:50:49.160 from moderate Republicans

00:50:50.780 in supporting

00:50:51.740 RFK.

00:50:52.820 Now,

00:50:53.560 with that being said,

00:50:54.600 we're seeing

00:50:55.300 some really nefarious

00:50:56.700 characters come out

00:50:57.780 and try to prop up

00:50:58.960 RFK.

00:50:59.700 I think it's really

00:51:00.680 early on.

00:51:01.420 They're just angry

00:51:01.980 because their candidate

00:51:02.920 is performing so poorly

00:51:04.940 against Trump

00:51:05.680 and they're going to

00:51:06.060 come around like we

00:51:06.880 saw in 2016

00:51:07.800 when people were doing

00:51:09.420 this with guys

00:51:10.520 like Kasich

00:51:11.140 and with Evan McMullen

00:51:13.200 and other people

00:51:13.980 that were popping up.

00:51:15.200 But that's just

00:51:16.140 my take,

00:51:17.160 which is right now,

00:51:18.200 I feel pretty good

00:51:19.620 about having someone

00:51:20.560 come from the left

00:51:21.760 to help split

00:51:22.980 the left's vote.

00:51:25.200 And we just saw

00:51:26.220 a new poll come out

00:51:26.860 here in Arizona.

00:51:27.640 A good example of this

00:51:28.500 is Kyrsten Sinema.

00:51:30.240 Carrie Lake just announced

00:51:31.260 she is way ahead

00:51:33.480 in the polls

00:51:34.080 of the other person

00:51:36.320 that's in the race

00:51:36.800 here in Arizona,

00:51:37.560 Mark Lamb.

00:51:39.280 Kyrsten Sinema

00:51:40.020 is not loved

00:51:40.780 by the Democrat base,

00:51:42.500 but she pulls

00:51:43.380 more moderates.

00:51:44.740 And even with polling

00:51:45.620 a good amount

00:51:46.860 of Republicans

00:51:47.480 away from Carrie Lake

00:51:48.580 even a little bit more

00:51:50.460 so,

00:51:50.960 there's going to be

00:51:52.020 a significant portion

00:51:53.260 of Democrats

00:51:53.720 who are always going

00:51:54.460 to vote for Kyrsten Sinema.

00:51:56.180 And so that gives us

00:51:56.880 a real advantage

00:51:57.800 when we talk about

00:51:59.180 the battle

00:52:00.480 of throwing everything

00:52:01.500 cattywampus

00:52:02.060 for the Democrats

00:52:02.600 and how they're chasing ballots,

00:52:04.420 how they're looking

00:52:05.020 at the numbers

00:52:05.580 in specific precincts

00:52:06.920 in a state like Arizona

00:52:08.020 because it really comes

00:52:08.620 down to three states.

00:52:10.100 So we can kind of

00:52:11.180 have that debate

00:52:11.780 and that conversation.

00:52:12.820 But I know

00:52:14.140 you guys disagree.

00:52:15.240 Jack disagrees.

00:52:17.480 I disagree.

00:52:19.460 Jack,

00:52:19.760 why do you disagree

00:52:20.540 with Tyler's

00:52:21.440 substantive analysis there?

00:52:24.920 So,

00:52:25.700 look,

00:52:26.820 it's,

00:52:27.080 it's,

00:52:27.840 and I admittedly

00:52:29.540 you're talking about

00:52:30.380 the specifics

00:52:31.580 of a couple

00:52:33.040 of different states.

00:52:34.160 Where I'm really looking

00:52:34.980 at is the Rust Belt.

00:52:36.180 This has been

00:52:36.760 my focus

00:52:37.940 since 2016

00:52:39.340 and even prior

00:52:40.860 to then,

00:52:41.480 just understanding

00:52:42.260 the types of,

00:52:43.660 the types of voters

00:52:44.820 that Donald Trump

00:52:45.820 or a Republican,

00:52:47.900 but I mean,

00:52:48.220 I think it's pretty clear

00:52:49.120 Trump's going to win

00:52:49.580 the primary,

00:52:50.500 at this point

00:52:51.280 could flip

00:52:52.220 in order to produce

00:52:53.720 states that could slide

00:52:55.560 from the blue column

00:52:57.000 into the red column.

00:52:58.600 And there's only

00:52:59.360 a few parts of the country

00:53:00.400 where you can do this.

00:53:01.600 And the Rust Belt,

00:53:02.780 as we saw in 2016,

00:53:04.300 proved decisive,

00:53:05.820 proved absolutely decisive.

00:53:07.340 So those types

00:53:08.960 of voters

00:53:09.520 are these

00:53:10.900 working class

00:53:11.940 blue collar

00:53:13.600 in many cases,

00:53:15.360 not necessarily

00:53:17.160 super socially

00:53:18.440 conservative,

00:53:20.440 but are very much

00:53:21.940 pro-worker

00:53:22.780 and pro,

00:53:24.620 you know,

00:53:24.880 pro-USA,

00:53:25.800 America first,

00:53:26.500 I guess is probably

00:53:27.000 the best way to put it.

00:53:28.080 So that's Pennsylvania,

00:53:29.820 Michigan,

00:53:30.700 Wisconsin.

00:53:31.920 Well,

00:53:32.380 unfortunately,

00:53:33.360 the way politics works

00:53:34.420 is that there are lanes.

00:53:35.840 So there are lanes

00:53:36.620 to those voters.

00:53:37.740 Chris Christie tried

00:53:38.520 to get those voters.

00:53:39.440 That was supposed

00:53:40.120 to be a huge appeal

00:53:41.000 of Chris Christie

00:53:41.640 when he ran

00:53:42.260 the few times

00:53:43.360 that he ran.

00:53:43.800 And of course,

00:53:44.180 I mean ran

00:53:44.760 in the political sense,

00:53:46.360 not in the actual

00:53:47.040 physical sense of running

00:53:47.940 because Chris Christie

00:53:48.620 can't do that.

00:53:50.240 No, it's not possible.

00:53:52.380 And so

00:53:53.340 when I look

00:53:54.760 at those states,

00:53:55.900 I say,

00:53:56.440 well,

00:53:56.580 Trump can really

00:53:57.980 clean up there

00:53:59.120 in a way

00:54:00.160 that no other Republican can.

00:54:01.760 You're certainly

00:54:02.140 not going to be able

00:54:02.720 to win those states

00:54:03.580 by calling for war

00:54:05.140 with Iran,

00:54:06.020 by calling for

00:54:06.600 war with Syria,

00:54:07.480 boots on the ground.

00:54:08.260 It's just not something

00:54:09.500 that these voters

00:54:10.740 go for.

00:54:11.540 And in the same way

00:54:12.560 as we've seen

00:54:13.280 that those voters

00:54:14.540 are not interested

00:54:15.640 in federal bans

00:54:16.720 or even state bans

00:54:17.660 on abortion.

00:54:18.240 In fact,

00:54:18.920 Michigan just enshrined

00:54:19.880 abortion in their

00:54:20.740 constitution.

00:54:21.760 That being said,

00:54:23.680 if you take a guy

00:54:24.800 like RFK,

00:54:26.380 he appeals

00:54:27.560 to those types

00:54:28.740 of moderates

00:54:29.600 and independents

00:54:30.660 that Trump

00:54:31.460 would need

00:54:32.280 to win over

00:54:33.220 in order

00:54:33.680 to flip

00:54:34.080 those states.

00:54:35.040 Would it be

00:54:35.460 all of them?

00:54:36.200 No,

00:54:36.480 of course not.

00:54:37.420 Would he flip

00:54:38.020 rock-ribbed,

00:54:39.740 thought-crime

00:54:40.560 listening,

00:54:41.240 Trump supporters?

00:54:42.100 No,

00:54:42.340 of course not.

00:54:43.300 But could he flip

00:54:45.320 enough people

00:54:45.880 in the middle

00:54:46.580 to swing

00:54:47.400 those states

00:54:48.180 to Biden?

00:54:48.880 I think that he

00:54:49.360 absolutely could,

00:54:50.300 and I think

00:54:50.660 that's exactly

00:54:51.260 how you will

00:54:51.740 see this play out

00:54:52.580 if,

00:54:53.420 by the way,

00:54:54.040 he's able

00:54:54.640 to get on the ballot

00:54:55.520 in all these states.

00:54:56.460 My other question

00:54:57.820 in all of this

00:54:58.540 is how much

00:54:59.500 or what size

00:55:01.760 house did the

00:55:02.560 DNC promise

00:55:03.780 to Cornel West

00:55:04.780 to get him

00:55:05.540 to drop out

00:55:06.100 of the Green

00:55:06.460 Party primary

00:55:07.180 because the Green

00:55:09.120 Party was going

00:55:09.620 to get him

00:55:09.940 on the ballot,

00:55:10.500 but him running

00:55:10.920 as independent,

00:55:11.660 I just don't see

00:55:12.440 him actually being

00:55:13.000 on the ballot

00:55:13.400 in these states

00:55:13.840 now.

00:55:14.900 So what is it?

00:55:15.760 How many bedrooms?

00:55:17.220 Well,

00:55:17.540 can I just interject

00:55:18.380 here to just say

00:55:19.380 it's really difficult

00:55:20.220 to get on the ballot

00:55:20.980 as an independent?

00:55:23.140 One sec,

00:55:23.720 Tyler's talking.

00:55:24.400 Yeah.

00:55:24.940 All right,

00:55:25.400 Blake,

00:55:25.820 take it away.

00:55:26.780 So I think

00:55:28.700 I also agree

00:55:30.200 that RFK running

00:55:31.100 is going to be

00:55:32.120 bad for Trump,

00:55:33.240 but I don't know

00:55:33.700 if it's that he appeals

00:55:34.500 to moderates.

00:55:35.500 I think the image

00:55:36.860 in my head,

00:55:37.420 the kind of

00:55:37.900 I'm with you on this.

00:55:38.840 Who is a person

00:55:39.420 who's going to vote for him?

00:55:40.360 I think what it's actually

00:55:41.280 going to be is

00:55:42.380 what's like the biggest event

00:55:44.640 of the last five years.

00:55:45.540 It's COVID

00:55:45.880 and then also like

00:55:46.740 the subsequent post-COVID thing,

00:55:48.600 vaccine mandates,

00:55:49.580 all of that.

00:55:50.220 There's just a ton

00:55:50.960 of people who

00:55:51.560 this is just a huge event

00:55:52.840 in their political lives

00:55:54.100 and there are people

00:55:55.620 who are just still outraged

00:55:57.740 about the vaccines,

00:55:58.980 the vaccine mandates,

00:56:00.140 whether those vaccines

00:56:01.040 cause people to die,

00:56:02.160 get injured and so on.

00:56:03.540 And I think there's still

00:56:05.220 going to be a good kernel

00:56:06.640 of many thousands

00:56:07.800 of people

00:56:08.380 who are,

00:56:09.480 for lack of a better term,

00:56:10.260 they're like COVID

00:56:10.920 single issue voters.

00:56:12.360 Not so much

00:56:13.300 like on COVID itself,

00:56:14.820 but they're angry

00:56:16.120 at Trump that Trump

00:56:17.260 promoted the vaccines,

00:56:20.840 did Operation Warp Speed,

00:56:22.380 all of that.

00:56:23.100 And they just think

00:56:23.800 Trump has burned

00:56:25.080 the bridge with me forever

00:56:26.080 because of that one thing.

00:56:27.520 And I need to go

00:56:28.460 with someone

00:56:28.920 whose COVID credentials

00:56:30.460 are totally impeccable.

00:56:32.220 And normally,

00:56:33.180 I would think

00:56:33.640 this would sort of fade away

00:56:34.700 and it might,

00:56:35.260 it might still fade away

00:56:36.160 in the next year

00:56:36.840 and a half or so.

00:56:38.120 But these people

00:56:38.760 have kind of coalesced

00:56:39.700 into these groups.

00:56:40.460 They're on a lot

00:56:40.840 of telegram channels together

00:56:42.120 that have their own

00:56:44.240 sort of political environment.

00:56:46.060 And I can just see

00:56:46.880 these sort of eccentric

00:56:49.340 COVID obsessives

00:56:50.960 being not a large voter block,

00:56:53.480 but they're one

00:56:54.520 of those marginal voter blocks

00:56:55.740 that make the difference

00:56:56.440 in whether you win or not.

00:56:57.460 And if he just gets

00:56:58.440 even, you know,

00:56:59.960 300,000,

00:57:00.860 500,000 of those voters,

00:57:02.220 that could be

00:57:02.860 what costs him

00:57:03.820 the state

00:57:04.300 that would have gotten him

00:57:05.060 to 270.

00:57:05.640 Yeah, here's my take on this.

00:57:07.140 And I just know this

00:57:07.760 from the audience

00:57:08.400 because in our audience,

00:57:09.420 there's some huge RFK fans still.

00:57:11.240 In fact, a lot of people

00:57:11.800 that say they're going to vote

00:57:12.440 for RFK over Trump.

00:57:13.840 And that's a real thing.

00:57:15.340 I'd say probably 10%.

00:57:16.760 One out of 10

00:57:17.760 would have that sentiment.

00:57:19.200 And maybe that will decrease

00:57:19.940 as we get closer

00:57:20.680 and people realize

00:57:21.380 that RFK is a flaming liberal.

00:57:23.080 But it's low trust, high trust.

00:57:25.040 That's how I try to divide things.

00:57:26.300 And that Donald Trump

00:57:27.180 is running a low trust campaign,

00:57:28.920 meaning we can't trust

00:57:29.680 our institutions.

00:57:30.520 They're lying to us.

00:57:31.500 They're rigged against us.

00:57:32.260 They want to put me in prison.

00:57:33.820 And Joe Biden is going to run

00:57:35.720 a high trust campaign, right?

00:57:37.440 Institutions are actually working.

00:57:39.020 We can't give me power

00:57:40.260 because the other guys

00:57:41.240 are going to disassemble

00:57:42.680 our institutions.

00:57:43.380 So 2024 will be about

00:57:44.240 a lot of things.

00:57:45.040 One of the dynamics will be,

00:57:46.720 are you a low trust

00:57:47.400 or high trust voter, right?

00:57:48.780 Republicans used to be

00:57:49.500 a high trust coalition

00:57:50.580 back in the 90s

00:57:51.500 and early 2000s.

00:57:52.520 You know, intel agencies are good.

00:57:54.340 The Democrats want to disassemble.

00:57:55.980 And it's really been

00:57:56.780 an inversion of high trust,

00:57:57.780 low trust.

00:57:58.300 RFK is the most

00:57:59.600 low trust candidate, right?

00:58:01.100 He believes that the intel agencies

00:58:02.400 killed his uncle.

00:58:03.080 I happen to agree, right?

00:58:04.260 He has all very strong opinions

00:58:06.020 on vaccines and medical freedom.

00:58:07.400 And, I mean, Blake,

00:58:09.000 would you agree

00:58:09.620 that the medical freedom crowd,

00:58:13.080 that they're not

00:58:14.200 Joe Biden voters ever, right?

00:58:15.860 I mean, they would have been

00:58:16.980 maybe mad at Trump

00:58:17.940 over a vaccine or whatever

00:58:19.200 and then yielded towards RFK.

00:58:21.340 Would you agree with that, Blake?

00:58:22.120 I think that that's

00:58:23.060 the situation we're looking at.

00:58:24.620 And especially,

00:58:25.280 I would also say,

00:58:26.280 because, actually,

00:58:27.880 because they're low trust voters,

00:58:29.340 that can also make them,

00:58:30.780 I think, relatively immune

00:58:32.260 to more strategic voting.

00:58:34.780 So I think there's a lot of people,

00:58:36.400 you know, a lot of us,

00:58:37.200 you know, a lot of people

00:58:37.880 make the calculation,

00:58:38.720 you know, who can I vote for

00:58:39.960 who will have the best chance

00:58:41.240 to win even if I have

00:58:42.340 differences with them

00:58:43.200 and they're better

00:58:43.680 than the alternative.

00:58:44.760 But people who are lower trust,

00:58:47.600 they're more likely to think

00:58:48.440 the election's rigged anyway.

00:58:49.920 They're more likely to think,

00:58:51.120 well, even if I vote this way,

00:58:52.760 you know, the deep state

00:58:53.360 will sabotage it or something.

00:58:54.860 I'm just going to vote

00:58:55.460 for who I have the strongest

00:58:56.420 gut feeling for.

00:58:58.320 And that's going to be

00:58:59.680 a lot of people

00:59:00.040 who like to vote for RFK.

00:59:01.260 Tyler, final thoughts here

00:59:02.260 because we've got to wrap.

00:59:02.860 Well, I mean, I would say this.

00:59:04.760 So in response to that,

00:59:06.220 so I totally agree

00:59:08.180 that you always have breakage,

00:59:10.100 what they call breakage.

00:59:11.060 So people who are going to vote

00:59:12.360 for the other party

00:59:13.060 because they don't like your candidate.

00:59:14.780 There's always a subgroup

00:59:15.960 that feels that way.

00:59:17.400 What Democrats have figured out

00:59:18.280 a long time ago

00:59:18.920 is that that number

00:59:19.800 typically just kind of

00:59:22.200 hovers around

00:59:23.400 seven to nine percent

00:59:24.900 of the electorate.

00:59:26.260 And so I think

00:59:27.180 what you're going to see happen

00:59:28.300 this election,

00:59:29.680 if you have RFK in the ballot,

00:59:30.840 that Republicans who typically

00:59:32.640 that want to divorce themselves

00:59:35.980 from Trump,

00:59:36.580 that typically will be like,

00:59:37.920 oh, I'll vote for Biden, right?

00:59:39.600 Like the Republicans

00:59:40.440 for Biden camp.

00:59:41.840 Again, that turned out to be

00:59:43.960 probably right around

00:59:45.120 the ballpark,

00:59:45.900 about five, six percent

00:59:46.820 of the rest were libertarians

00:59:47.840 that voted for

00:59:48.600 the libertarian candidate.

00:59:50.080 Those people will vote

00:59:51.300 for RFK.

00:59:52.860 But you're not going to

00:59:54.220 you're not going to see

00:59:55.640 a dramatic increase

00:59:57.180 from that number.

00:59:57.880 But it benefits us

00:59:59.760 because those numbers

01:00:00.480 don't go to Biden.

01:00:01.620 And then the

01:00:02.380 the alternate situation

01:00:04.900 as well.

01:00:05.480 Are there more

01:00:06.320 is there more breakage

01:00:07.480 that are going to

01:00:08.320 abandon the Democrat Party

01:00:10.620 and vote for RFK

01:00:11.760 instead of Trump?

01:00:12.900 And I actually think

01:00:13.680 that you're going to see

01:00:14.280 a larger number of Democrats

01:00:15.760 that are more willing

01:00:16.380 to do that

01:00:17.000 instead of voting for Trump

01:00:18.380 because what we said,

01:00:19.520 the low trust,

01:00:20.400 high trust thing,

01:00:21.560 they're actually going to

01:00:23.120 trust an independent candidate

01:00:24.700 to be OK with it.

01:00:25.480 High independent numbers

01:00:26.260 exist in states like Arizona.

01:00:28.160 Georgia,

01:00:29.120 you're seeing higher numbers

01:00:30.120 of that with younger people

01:00:31.100 moving into Georgia.

01:00:32.580 And so I actually think

01:00:33.360 the ultimate result is

01:00:34.380 is like at the end of the day,

01:00:35.520 your breakage isn't going

01:00:36.540 to increase.

01:00:37.260 It's just going to go

01:00:38.040 somewhere else

01:00:38.680 and it's better for it

01:00:39.600 to go to RFK

01:00:40.480 than it is to go

01:00:41.480 to the other side.

01:00:42.840 And at the end of the day,

01:00:43.840 that just comes down to,

01:00:44.840 again,

01:00:45.260 you're going to end up

01:00:45.980 in the same pool

01:00:46.620 where a poll just came out

01:00:48.440 actually yesterday,

01:00:49.640 I think,

01:00:50.240 looking at this

01:00:51.160 that showed,

01:00:52.480 oh, with RFK in the race,

01:00:54.080 it actually,

01:00:54.720 I think it was Wisconsin,

01:00:55.980 it doesn't change anything.

01:00:57.100 It's still like

01:00:57.800 a 50-50 competitive state.

01:00:59.620 And so ultimately,

01:01:00.100 it's going to come down

01:01:00.820 to how many ballots,

01:01:01.880 how many low propensity ballots

01:01:03.200 for Democrats and Republicans

01:01:04.660 can they get in the box

01:01:05.580 for Biden or Trump?

01:01:07.520 Because RFK is not going

01:01:08.520 to win that battle.

01:01:09.980 So, you know,

01:01:10.640 and they're probably going

01:01:11.640 to wash each other out

01:01:12.640 for the most part

01:01:13.240 because both sides

01:01:14.300 have very similar numbers

01:01:15.720 of breakage.

01:01:16.780 It's just how it's always

01:01:17.740 worked in most of these states.

01:01:18.720 We've got to dash everybody.

01:01:21.900 Email us freedom

01:01:22.440 at charliekirk.com.

01:01:23.860 We'll be back

01:01:24.360 in the studio next week.

01:01:25.660 Till next time,

01:01:26.460 keep on committing

01:01:27.200 thought crimes.

01:01:28.120 God bless and thanks so much.

01:01:31.280 Thought crime is death.

01:01:48.720 God bless and thanks so much.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 14, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 17 — Hamas-Loving Lefties？ Colonialism = Great？ RFK Hurting Trump？

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