Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 20 — Bootgate？ Is Halloween Dead？ Which Islam is Correct？

00:00:00.980 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:00:15.000 All right, everybody.

00:00:21.140 Welcome to Thought Crimes.

00:00:22.680 What episode is this, Blake?

00:00:23.660 20.

00:00:24.520 Is it really 20?

00:00:25.440 Around 20?

00:00:25.980 21 if you count the debate special we did.

00:00:28.740 Ah, can you believe we've done 20 of these?

00:00:31.340 Blake, great, you're here.

00:00:32.900 Andrew, hello.

00:00:34.460 Hello, hello.

00:00:35.340 And Jack, let's just get right into it.

00:00:37.740 No use in suspense, the greatest political scandal ever.

00:00:41.900 Bigger than Watergate and Teapot Dome, which is otherwise known as Bootgate.

00:00:46.540 I want to play the tape, Jack, and we'll just set it up.

00:00:49.000 Okay, Patrick Bett David, who is an American legend,

00:00:51.920 one of my favorite guys in the media space,

00:00:54.060 he had a very good interview with Ron DeSantis.

00:00:56.440 Actually, DeSantis was doing, I think, very well.

00:00:59.580 He was.

00:01:00.980 He totally was, Charlie.

00:01:02.740 That's the sad part about all this.

00:01:04.640 And then it didn't go too well.

00:01:06.880 Play cut 46.

00:01:07.540 I'm sure your marketing team points out how they're trying to troll you in the marketplace.

00:01:13.780 Okay, I'm sure they're doing that.

00:01:14.800 Can you bring this one clip?

00:01:16.340 I know you were on, what do you call it, on, what was it, Bill Maher,

00:01:21.560 and Bill Maher talked about the boots.

00:01:22.920 I've seen you walk with these boots.

00:01:24.280 Go ahead and play this clip.

00:01:25.220 This on TikTok went viral.

00:01:27.360 It doesn't have a million views.

00:01:28.740 It doesn't have, you know, 10 million views.

00:01:31.080 This thing's got 1.2 million likes.

00:01:33.480 And some people are wondering.

00:01:35.960 What are they?

00:01:36.480 I don't even understand.

00:01:37.120 I haven't seen that.

00:01:38.480 They have not shown this to you.

00:01:39.840 Okay, what they're trying to say with this is that in your boots, you have heels.

00:01:44.580 No, no, no.

00:01:45.320 That's what they're trying to say.

00:01:45.780 Those are just standard, off-the-rack, Lucchese.

00:01:49.860 How tall are you, Governor?

00:01:51.700 5'11".

00:01:52.380 5'11".

00:01:52.960 Okay.

00:01:53.980 Why don't you wear tennis shoes and dress shoes?

00:01:57.480 Oh, you guys don't have the best part.

00:01:59.540 What, Ryan?

00:02:01.020 Wait, where's the end?

00:02:02.280 I know.

00:02:03.080 Oh, we got to get it.

00:02:03.620 We'll get the end.

00:02:04.340 We'll get it.

00:02:04.980 Fugazi, Fugazi, Jack, what's going on here?

00:02:08.360 All right.

00:02:08.760 So the greatest and most important political scandal of this, really, of this or any historical

00:02:19.280 epoch, of course, is Bootgate.

00:02:22.860 You know, you thought Epstein Island was bad.

00:02:25.180 You thought Hillary's emails were bad. 0.99

00:02:28.180 You thought all the uranium won, you know, all of it, Benghazi. 0.68

00:02:31.060 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:02:32.680 It brings us now to Bootgate.

00:02:35.820 So this actually started, right?

00:02:38.980 Oh, of course, you know, I see some folks in the chat are already saying 9-11, which Bush

00:02:43.720 did, is even worse.

00:02:45.580 You know, I see people in the chat saying that.

00:02:47.320 I, you know, I don't know if I'm prepared to go there, but, but I am saying this is rough.

00:02:50.980 You know, it really started hard to say exactly when Bootgate started, but certainly there

00:02:56.480 was, you know, there was a, you know, a precursor to Bootgate of Bootgate 1.0.

00:03:04.260 So there's actually a two part section to Bootgate because Bootgate began with the original

00:03:09.580 white boots that, I think it was Hurricane Ian, that he was wearing that kind of looked

00:03:15.680 like the boots that the green M&M wears, where they do the M&M's commercials on the, like

00:03:22.460 the cartoon M&M's or whatever.

00:03:24.460 That was the original Bootgate.

00:03:26.700 This is the, his origin story, almost like a Marvel hero, if you will, where then he said,

00:03:34.060 okay, I'll never wear those again, but I'm going to wear cowboy boots.

00:03:36.540 And the cowboy boots laid, led people to start questioning things about the height of Governor

00:03:41.660 DeSantis, as well as people who have conducted events with Governor DeSantis.

00:03:45.760 People have met him.

00:03:46.800 I've met him.

00:03:47.380 I'm sure most of the people on this, uh, on the show have met Governor DeSantis at one

00:03:51.900 point or another in person.

00:03:53.600 And we've noticed that his height seems to kind of fluctuate in a way that, you know, a,

00:04:00.300 a, a, a normal person's height just, just doesn't.

00:04:03.380 And then there was the way he was sitting with these boots on the Bill Maher show.

00:04:10.100 Uh, you can see his height here in tennis shoes with, uh, Bill Malugan from Fox where actually

00:04:16.240 the he's, excuse me, Bill is wearing tennis shoes in this picture.

00:04:19.140 Whereas DeSantis even, and I don't know if we can zoom in and enhance folks back in the,

00:04:23.820 uh, yeah, the CSI thought crime, uh, lab there, but actually those boots as well that he's

00:04:30.980 wearing do contain fake heels, uh, Bill Malugan, by the way, who, uh, through a thought crime

00:04:36.900 investigation, our investigatory team found, uh, is actually about six, four.

00:04:41.940 So he's actually about six foot four.

00:04:43.580 That's why he's easily able to wear tennis shoes like that and tower over just about anybody.

00:04:47.880 The problem is if someone were actually five 11, that's not what they would look like

00:04:52.320 if they were standing next to someone who was six.

00:04:54.140 Hold on, Jack.

00:04:55.780 Can we just take a second, go back to that image.

00:04:59.600 You can put it in the center.

00:05:01.500 Yes.

00:05:02.620 Why is he standing that way?

00:05:05.860 Like that, that's not the heels.

00:05:08.180 That's just him standing.

00:05:09.500 You're talking about the pigeon toes.

00:05:10.420 Pigeon toes.

00:05:10.920 Yeah.

00:05:11.260 Like the whole thing is very awkward.

00:05:14.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.200 So I think that contributes to this.

00:05:15.800 The, the pigeon toed stance is something that we've identified through mimology of Governor

00:05:22.020 DeSantis that goes really back all the way until when he was a, a congressman, it goes

00:05:27.340 back to the time where he first ran for office.

00:05:29.600 Uh, this stance you will find in numerous instances.

00:05:32.720 So anyway, the, uh, the video went viral.

00:05:36.380 So there was an issue by the way, as well, where Ashley St. Clair, who is at Babylon B did

00:05:41.460 a Tik TOK video, making fun of the boots and just kind of like a silly boot video of herself

00:05:46.800 putting on, you know, boots, thigh highs.

00:05:48.360 And, uh, the DeSantis campaign responded to her.

00:05:51.580 Again, this is the Babylon B. 0.97

00:05:52.900 They make jokes for a living over there in case anyone doesn't know that by now.

00:05:56.380 Uh, and satire of all political candidates.

00:05:58.500 It's, it's, it's literally what they're paid to do.

00:06:00.640 Um, but the DeSantis campaign launched a, a very strong attack on the Babylon B and Ashley

00:06:07.220 St. Clair for making this, again, satirical video.

00:06:11.000 Um, this all leads to Patrick, but David asking this question.

00:06:15.760 Uh, these are some memes.

00:06:16.760 That's one of Johnny Magus memes. 1.00

00:06:18.700 Haha, Trump is going to die in prison. 0.98

00:06:20.740 No, the boots are off limits. 0.99

00:06:22.440 We have to talk policy.

00:06:24.940 I have, I have about 500 of these memes, um, at this point in my, in my phone.

00:06:29.760 And I was, uh, texting them to Don Jr.

00:06:31.720 when he was in court this week.

00:06:32.820 Um, then, then it, it just got to the point where it started blowing up and, uh, I launched

00:06:40.220 the hashtag boot gate.

00:06:42.500 Uh, many people then guided on this and hashtag boot gate, believe it or not, became the number

00:06:48.280 two trend on all of X on Halloween this week.

00:06:52.860 So we couldn't beat, couldn't unseat happy Halloween on Halloween day itself.

00:06:57.100 But number two, I'm going to say that's basically number one, because, you know, you're never

00:07:00.940 going to beat a holiday hashtag on a holiday, but we were, we were basically number one.

00:07:05.300 The memes were flying, people were screaming and, and Andrew, I want to, I want to throw

00:07:10.320 something else out there as well, because this is something that, um, that really speaks

00:07:14.460 to the heart of it, because there were people who were claiming that I was making fun of

00:07:18.900 his height or that any of us were making fun of his height.

00:07:21.880 And I wanted to point this out for, just to be very clear for people, we're not making

00:07:25.600 fun of his height.

00:07:26.780 We're making fun of the fact that he's obviously lying about it and he's lying to everyone about

00:07:33.340 it.

00:07:33.500 By the way, guys, right?

00:07:35.200 Have you ever met someone who says they're 5'11"?

00:07:37.720 Just in all seriousness, have you ever met someone who says that?

00:07:41.500 No, they usually round up.

00:07:43.040 They'll usually round up.

00:07:44.040 Yeah.

00:07:45.020 Yeah.

00:07:45.380 If you're 5'11", you say six feet.

00:07:47.340 You're 5'9".

00:07:47.740 Yeah.

00:07:48.120 No, that's right.

00:07:48.680 Yeah.

00:07:48.860 You say six feet.

00:07:49.640 So who says 5'11"?

00:07:51.200 When people ask me how tall I am, I kind of say, I don't know.

00:07:55.800 I'm like, I guess I'm, I mean, once you kind of hit 6'2", like an actual 6'2", 6'3",

00:08:00.860 6'4", you don't have to.

00:08:02.580 It doesn't matter anymore.

00:08:03.760 It really doesn't matter.

00:08:04.960 It's like height is not part of your identity, right?

00:08:08.040 It is your identity.

00:08:09.800 Oh, well, yeah, it's your identity, but it's not something you consciously think about all

00:08:13.540 the time, right?

00:08:14.880 So let me ask you.

00:08:16.560 So, Jack, we got to play the other tape here.

00:08:18.400 Okay, we have to play it.

00:08:19.340 So it's just too good.

00:08:21.560 And by the way, so Ron DeSantis is offered a gift.

00:08:24.640 And instead of, like, playing along, this is, of the whole, it's cursed energy, cursed

00:08:30.060 energy.

00:08:30.560 All right, I have to say, the whole part of the tape, this is what bothered me the most.

00:08:34.500 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, play it, play it, play it, play it, play it.

00:08:36.820 Play cut 112.

00:08:37.740 Why don't you wear tennis shoes and dress shoes?

00:08:42.240 I do wear tennis shoes when I work out.

00:08:44.460 Yeah, you do.

00:08:45.240 Okay, I got a gift for you.

00:08:46.580 I'd love for you to wear, okay, I shop at Fergamo.

00:08:50.980 Okay.

00:08:54.640 I don't accept gifts.

00:08:56.480 I can't accept it.

00:08:57.640 I'm sorry.

00:08:59.620 Oh, my God.

00:09:02.020 It's so bad.

00:09:03.180 What do you think?

00:09:03.780 It's a bunch of gold bars, man?

00:09:05.320 The energy is so bad.

00:09:06.820 He was setting him up.

00:09:08.460 He was setting him up.

00:09:10.320 No, I mean, but, you know, it would have been funny if DeSantis was like, what, he got a

00:09:13.020 bunch of gold bars there?

00:09:14.060 You're trying to bribe me?

00:09:15.160 Like, I don't accept.

00:09:16.740 Like, really?

00:09:17.640 It's just, like, really?

00:09:17.960 You're like, not.

00:09:19.760 It's really just so bad about Menendez.

00:09:22.420 I'm not going down like Menendez.

00:09:24.820 Like the Egyptians. 0.99

00:09:25.620 It was such a tell.

00:09:26.760 It was such a tell.

00:09:27.560 I think that was the hard part to watch about it, because I think of us four on this show

00:09:33.100 right now, I might have been the most enthusiastic about DeSantis.

00:09:38.500 I was always Trump, but I wanted, my heart went out to him, especially at the beginning.

00:09:44.440 I wanted to protect him for 2028, really.

00:09:47.700 I think that is where it came down to.

00:09:49.300 But it's so hard to watch this, because you know that that's essentially an admission

00:09:55.060 that he is putting heels in his boots, because you could see the sweat, like, beads forming

00:10:01.680 on his forehead, going, if I take these off, he'll know that, you know, I actually do have

00:10:06.520 heels, and I just denied it.

00:10:08.520 And so he instantly went to this almost, like, autistic response.

00:10:11.920 Even just the bad energy in his voice as he interrupts, I can't accept it.

00:10:15.860 I can't take it.

00:10:17.000 Just, you could, one, if Donald Trump was presented, let's just imagine an alternate

00:10:22.220 universe where Trump is getting offered the same thing.

00:10:25.020 He would say something different, one.

00:10:26.920 But two, even if you were, he was for whatever reason constrained to say the same thing, he

00:10:32.900 would actually manage to say it better.

00:10:34.740 He would say, like, you know, Patrick, you know, like you said, you got the gold bars

00:10:39.940 there?

00:10:40.180 You got the gold bars?

00:10:41.380 Tell me back when you got the gold bars.

00:10:42.960 Ferragamo?

00:10:43.760 Is that the best you could do, Patrick?

00:10:45.260 You're not a billionaire like me.

00:10:47.120 I have a shoe store that is worth more than Ron DeSantis's.

00:10:50.600 Yeah.

00:10:50.940 But I mean, so there's many layers here, right?

00:10:53.680 So, Jack, I know you want to continue to emphasize the cover-up of the height.

00:10:58.080 Go ahead, Jack.

00:10:58.700 You can't help yourself.

00:10:59.580 Go ahead.

00:11:00.220 No, and it's not just the cover-up of the height, but to your point about the, you know,

00:11:04.600 the rudeness here that when you come from Eastern cultures, to offer someone a gift is one of 1.00

00:11:11.260 the, it's one of the highest signs of generosity.

00:11:13.800 It's one of the highest signs of charity.

00:11:15.580 And quite possibly the rudest thing that you could do is to publicly reject a gift from

00:11:22.860 somebody.

00:11:23.440 And even if, which by the way, I'm pretty sure I've seen Ron DeSantis accept gifts before

00:11:28.100 in public and people have found, you know, pictures of him doing so.

00:11:33.280 But it's also, it's also like millions of people are watching.

00:11:35.980 No one thinks you're getting paid off, man.

00:11:37.980 Right.

00:11:38.400 I mean, like you, you could have been like, thanks, Patrick.

00:11:40.640 Really appreciate it.

00:11:41.820 Right.

00:11:42.100 I mean, it's like, okay, thanks, man.

00:11:43.600 And I actually pulled up the ethics, you know, code and it says, you know, accepting gifts

00:11:47.720 in understanding of it influencing government policy.

00:11:51.800 Right.

00:11:51.960 That's, that's exactly what he can, we can't have Christmas.

00:11:55.260 We, we, we, we really think that there's going to be an ethics investigation launched

00:11:58.280 into Ron DeSantis over Ferragamo's given on a live stream.

00:12:01.460 We shouldn't put anything beyond Democrats.

00:12:03.500 He just flies onto the spectrum.

00:12:05.160 No, but you don't even have to take them.

00:12:06.420 You could have just, you could have just like, you just could have just like, yeah, thanks,

00:12:08.900 Patrick, and leave it there. 0.96

00:12:09.860 And then afterwards be like, Patrick, I appreciate the gesture.

00:12:12.100 I, I, I can't do gifts.

00:12:13.480 You know, it's great.

00:12:14.120 Exactly.

00:12:14.780 Like you do after the live stream, right?

00:12:16.340 Or your staff handles it.

00:12:17.640 And I like, it's also, by the way, I don't do gifts.

00:12:20.640 It's like, have you never been on, like, have you never seen a podcast, bro?

00:12:23.980 Like he's obviously trying to do a bit on a podcast where it's Ron DeSantis wearing

00:12:28.780 Ferragamo's and then like, that's like, he's trying to, it was, here's the real thing

00:12:33.080 trying to help you out.

00:12:34.120 Well, it's also that if DeSantis took off his shoes and showed he wasn't wearing, you know,

00:12:39.080 lifts and put on the Ferragamo's, he could have just ended the whole thing.

00:12:43.440 What if, what if it's deeper than that?

00:12:45.400 He took off the shoes and reveals he's also standing on stilts.

00:12:50.460 It reveals he's just three, he's just three children in a suit.

00:12:54.020 Three eight-year-olds all stacked on top of each other, like the, you know, like Donald

00:12:58.660 Trump's nephew.

00:12:59.980 So I had an opportunity, I had an opportunity to sit down with someone close to the DeSantis

00:13:04.640 campaign recently and it was a very candid conversation.

00:13:08.380 It went fine.

00:13:09.060 It could have went better.

00:13:09.880 And I said, you guys do realize you are sort of a running joke right now in conservative

00:13:14.520 meme culture.

00:13:15.380 They're like, no, no, no.

00:13:15.920 People love us online.

00:13:17.020 They said, we have a whole, you know, we spend a lot of money.

00:13:20.040 I'm not kidding you, Blake.

00:13:20.800 They said, we spend a lot of money every month.

00:13:23.020 I kid you not.

00:13:23.960 They're like, we spend a lot of money and people love us.

00:13:26.200 And the influencer, I was like, look, guys, I, I don't, I'm actually trying to help you

00:13:30.560 here to like you.

00:13:32.200 I know the bit like, meaning that they're like, and, but with what they were referencing

00:13:35.240 is, you know, that piece that showed that, you know, DeSantis waged war online and lost.

00:13:40.040 They thought it was like a great piece that like, you know, they're fighting the meme

00:13:43.100 war and that there's going to be, Blake, just as objectively as you could take, is DeSantis winning

00:13:49.960 the online war?

00:13:50.960 He is not winning the online war.

00:13:52.800 It is.

00:13:53.340 It's like the Ukrainians, man. 1.00

00:13:54.680 It's sad.

00:13:55.160 It's sad for me to see.

00:13:56.680 I was like, who's worse, Israel or Braun DeSantis?

00:13:57.800 You know, it's, I'm, I'm like, you know, I'm like Andrew.

00:14:01.200 I kind of, you know, broadly speaking, like you, I like you.

00:14:03.580 I think he's a good governor.

00:14:04.500 I like, I've always said kind things about him.

00:14:06.720 I like, essentially, a lot of, I like a lot of aspects of his governing style, but, you

00:14:11.940 know, politics is as much about narratives and vibe.

00:14:13.880 I was very nice at the start.

00:14:15.340 I was very nice.

00:14:16.140 Fine, Jack, we all know.

00:14:17.560 You've been great.

00:14:18.020 Politics is about, you know, vibe.

00:14:19.260 It's about narrative.

00:14:20.500 And there's this, just, there's a very doomed vibe over the entire DeSantis operation.

00:14:25.760 And is that fair?

00:14:27.680 Probably not.

00:14:28.620 But, you know, it doesn't matter.

00:14:30.480 If you, you know, people want to follow people who have the right energy, who have that leadership,

00:14:35.580 who have charisma.

00:14:36.320 And what we've seen over the last, uh, over the last six, eight, 10 months is the DeSantis

00:14:45.060 campaign doesn't have that energy. 0.84

00:14:46.840 It doesn't have that sense of charisma.

00:14:49.140 It would be very difficult to turn it around right now.

00:14:52.660 And, you know, I hear a lot of people say like, oh, he needs to get out and save himself for

00:14:56.640 20, 28.

00:14:58.080 At this point, it's like, he has to get out so that we can make sure that Florida still

00:15:02.120 has a Republican governor in two more years.

00:15:03.960 Yeah.

00:15:04.200 Well, now this has launched a big investigation.

00:15:06.220 Let's play cut one 13. 0.77

00:15:07.260 Have we ever seen Ron DeSantis and Jose Altuve?

00:15:37.260 in a room together?

00:15:40.620 No Riz Ron, no Riz Ron.

00:15:43.220 Did you guys see there were people actually counting the steps because they were saying,

00:15:47.040 okay, it's 90 feet from, uh, home plate to first base.

00:15:51.760 And so if Ron DeSantis is stride is usually about three feet, how many steps does it take

00:15:57.120 to get, you know, from one of the, and people are counting.

00:15:59.460 It was about 24, by the way, most people are saying 24, but I actually know a guy who is,

00:16:05.100 you know, a fan of the show, fan of, uh, thought crime and human events.

00:16:08.000 And I said, who, uh, was, is a former MLB scout is one of these guys who would go all

00:16:13.640 around the world, you know, scouting high schools, et cetera, um, for, for players.

00:16:18.740 And so someone who I knew could probably watch a piece of baseball footage and see somebody

00:16:24.200 and look at the strike box and, and kind of know what it's on strike box.

00:16:27.720 Yeah.

00:16:28.360 It's great.

00:16:28.860 Yeah.

00:16:29.420 I'm sorry.

00:16:29.940 I'm a Phillies fan.

00:16:30.940 Um, that, that it was basically like, not, you know, knees to shoulders, et cetera, where

00:16:39.440 we're going to go from this.

00:16:40.340 And that's why I showed it to him two seconds later, he goes five, nine, five, nine.

00:16:45.100 That was what I said.

00:16:45.800 Remember in the chat, when I saw that, when I saw that clip, I said, you know, and him

00:16:50.080 at the same time, you know, it's so funny as, as someone who is on the verge of being

00:16:54.500 freakishly tall, this actually doesn't bother me.

00:16:57.060 You know, who it bothers the most is short people.

00:16:59.320 They're like, you're cheating.

00:17:01.320 That's who I've actually seen the most outrage from is they're like, no, you should suffer

00:17:06.420 with the rest of us and not fake your way to it.

00:17:08.860 Is this a question of morality, Blake?

00:17:10.800 Is he lying?

00:17:11.680 I mean, it is a question of morality and, you know, we're getting into really lurid topics

00:17:16.740 here because, you know, what, what are the worst atrocities we've ever seen?

00:17:20.580 You know, Edward Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, he killed a girl.

00:17:24.280 Chappaquiddick.

00:17:24.980 Chappaquiddick.

00:17:25.460 And that's a pretty bad scandal.

00:17:27.760 Uh, you know, we had Watergate, we've had, you know, 9-11, which Bush did, killed all

00:17:33.140 those people.

00:17:33.840 And I think if you took all of those scandals combined, you would maybe be at one, you

00:17:38.840 know, one 10th of the moral atrocity that Ron DeSantis faking his height is, uh, maybe

00:17:46.060 it might be, it might be better to round to one 100th.

00:17:48.780 This is probably the worst scandal to ever happen in the history of the human species.

00:17:54.400 So I, but here, here's the question though.

00:17:56.860 I mean, none of those were disqualifying Blake, but this actually could be the nail in the

00:18:03.220 coffin for, uh, but it's the lack of, Andrew explain how his team doesn't get this.

00:18:08.840 That's what's so frustrating.

00:18:10.020 Yeah.

00:18:10.340 I mean, without, without getting, I, I, yeah, I want to put all the like caveats that like

00:18:14.360 kind of you did.

00:18:15.240 We, we, we keep our conversations with the campaigns, you know, mostly private unless,

00:18:20.780 unless we don't have to.

00:18:21.580 But yeah, I mean.

00:18:22.620 The essence of it is that it was like, wait, what do you mean?

00:18:25.080 I have the interview went great.

00:18:26.660 I'm like, okay.

00:18:27.360 No.

00:18:27.580 And, and, and, and Jack actually knows this better than, than anybody.

00:18:30.860 I mean, and, and Jack, I want to back you up.

00:18:33.460 Actually, you were really reserved with Ron DeSantis at first.

00:18:36.660 You were, you were trying.

00:18:38.180 I remember it was that you and I were chatting a lot offline about it, but you know, some of

00:18:42.560 the stuff that was coming out and how we were going to approach it publicly, how we're going

00:18:45.820 to deal with it.

00:18:46.820 And, and you were really reserved, but then it just got to a point where I remember you

00:18:52.300 and Cernovich were talking about this a lot.

00:18:53.960 It was like the absolute insufferability of a DeSantis influencer online.

00:18:59.300 They are aggressive. 0.96

00:19:01.060 They're deranged.

00:19:02.180 I don't, you know, it's so impossible to stay on the sidelines and deal with these people

00:19:08.420 in like a normal way.

00:19:09.760 They just got so unhinged that it, it, it forced everybody into these, into these corners.

00:19:15.480 And what the DeSantis camp doesn't understand is that their influencers are not influencing

00:19:20.360 anybody to do anything except run as far away from that guy as they can.

00:19:24.660 And you got like this Bill Mitchell guy who, who literally doesn't let anybody reply in

00:19:30.740 his comments except approved followers because he's gotten so badly trolled.

00:19:35.900 These people do more harm to the DeSantis campaign than they, they have any idea.

00:19:40.160 And we tried to tell them, we tried to tell them you're getting cornered into this, you

00:19:44.920 know, establishment box. 0.98

00:19:46.460 You're getting cornered into this like nerd dork box.

00:19:48.940 And when I saw this story break boot gate, I was like, there's nothing we could do for 0.94

00:19:53.860 this guy anymore.

00:19:54.640 I genuinely don't know that you can save him for 2028, let alone to Blake's point.

00:19:59.680 If, you know, if we got to start worrying about Florida now.

00:20:03.100 Right.

00:20:03.520 So there's, there's a couple of things going on with this, right?

00:20:05.660 Number one, it's, it's the reason why the meme works.

00:20:08.540 And, and this is like, I'll, you know, kind of peel back the veil a little bit on, on why

00:20:11.800 we're doing this.

00:20:12.320 Um, first is, as you guys have all said that it's because they, they can't, uh, allow this

00:20:19.480 thing to exist.

00:20:20.240 They try to fact check the memes.

00:20:21.800 They try to, uh, put community notes on the memes.

00:20:25.000 They kind of, they attack the people for posting the memes.

00:20:27.800 They become shrill.

00:20:28.900 They become angry.

00:20:29.780 And so then that forces you to double down on it.

00:20:32.560 That forces, that makes you want to continue it.

00:20:34.720 And, and again, it's because they won't even lean into it and joke like other people that,

00:20:40.520 you know, like, uh, Steve Bannon, for example, isn't like super tall or anything.

00:20:45.120 Uh, Senator Rand Paul is, I would say he was, he's shorter than average.

00:20:49.180 Um, but nobody cares because he just sort of like wears it and owns it and does his thing

00:20:54.080 and he does great work and we all love Senator Paul and it's just a thing, right?

00:20:58.260 Nobody, he doesn't make it a thing himself with DeSantis because he's so insecure about

00:21:03.900 it.

00:21:04.360 That's actually what we're playing on.

00:21:06.120 And this is something that, um, Charlie, I'm sure you remember that Patrick, that

00:21:10.440 David had actually said a couple of months ago about Ron DeSantis.

00:21:15.220 And it was interesting to me that Patrick, but David was the one who had identified this

00:21:19.580 because I wondered if that played into him then sort of having this, obviously making

00:21:26.220 the decision as anybody does as an interviewer of what you're going to play, what you're,

00:21:30.040 what topics you're going to bring up because Patrick, but David had said that Ron DeSantis

00:21:34.460 seems like the kind of guy who's structured his entire life about being terrified of,

00:21:39.000 of being perceived as breaking a rule, right?

00:21:42.720 Like the kind of guy who tries to get a perfect score on his SATs, who tries to do everything

00:21:47.500 perfect, but who will say, Oh, well I, and this is, you know, Patrick, but David, and I'm

00:21:51.480 paraphrasing to, Oh, I can't kiss that.

00:21:53.180 I can't kiss that girl. 1.00

00:21:53.880 Cause then I get in trouble.

00:21:55.000 This is what happened.

00:21:55.900 Well, I can't punch that guy in the face because then this, this, this would happen.

00:21:58.700 I might run for office one day and that might come back at me.

00:22:00.780 And it just becomes so insecure and so terrified of ever breaking a rule that it leads you down

00:22:08.360 these paths where if you're confronted with something that isn't within those, you know,

00:22:13.700 uh, those set lines, if you're not coloring within the lines that they just completely

00:22:17.920 fall apart.

00:22:18.920 And that's exactly what he did when DeSantis was on.

00:22:22.440 I'm not saying that he intended to do that, but I do find it interesting that that's how

00:22:26.540 it played out.

00:22:27.120 The other piece of this is why does boot gate matter so much?

00:22:31.040 Because when you play on this specific thing, something like a person's physical stature,

00:22:35.980 it's not just about that.

00:22:37.160 It's also about their social status.

00:22:40.940 And in this case, what it really is, is a sexual humiliation.

00:22:44.820 And when I say that it's because we're showing that this is someone who's insecure.

00:22:48.700 This is someone who feels like he can't defend himself.

00:22:51.020 This is someone who doesn't have confidence.

00:22:52.380 This is someone who's worried about being able to defend his family, defend his immediate

00:22:57.740 vicinity, defend his property, whatever it is.

00:23:00.440 And so when you sexually humiliate somebody, that is something that nobody can come back

00:23:06.040 from in public. 0.93

00:23:06.940 This is why the rise of the word cuck and the term cuckervative, which is the full term 0.60

00:23:12.200 all played out.

00:23:13.580 Cuckervative became so, um, so prevalent online in 2015 and 2016.

00:23:18.360 It's because we would be going around to these people like Paul Ryan, like Mitt Romney, and

00:23:23.840 we call them cuckervatives.

00:23:25.060 It wasn't that we were saying that you're not a conservative. 0.99

00:23:28.140 We're saying that you are a wuss, that you're low T, that you're low energy. 0.53

00:23:32.260 You don't have the ability to back up anything that it is that you're saying. 0.98

00:23:36.560 And interestingly enough, um, these are the same people who also seem to push for war.

00:23:41.640 These are the same people who use appeals to authority, et cetera, et cetera.

00:23:44.500 There's a whole litany of this.

00:23:46.000 This gets into the, you know, the weak men, uh, hard times sort of fourth turning cycle.

00:23:51.060 And so when you're painting somebody with that brush and then you have successfully painted

00:23:56.600 them with that brush of a sexual humiliation, that's really something that becomes very,

00:24:02.420 very hard to get past ever.

00:24:03.940 Yeah.

00:24:04.280 So, I mean, I, I, I want to, if he just comes across in that podcast as somebody insecure,

00:24:09.360 right.

00:24:10.960 And that's a hard thing to shake once that is the, the vibe that people receive, right.

00:24:16.840 It's hard and it's just, it's totally incompatible with being a president of the United

00:24:21.460 States of America.

00:24:21.720 Running against alpha male Trump.

00:24:22.960 And everyone, everyone just intuits that.

00:24:25.100 I don't think we've had a variety of personalities become president, but I don't know that we've

00:24:30.300 ever had a profoundly insecure person become president.

00:24:33.460 Cause it's just how, how does that come to pass?

00:24:35.860 At least not in the modern era.

00:24:37.120 Well, it's, it's also that it's just such a misunderstanding for their team to think they're

00:24:41.000 doing well.

00:24:41.880 I'm not, I'm by no means an expert, but I'm an, I'm, I'm enough where I can see who's

00:24:46.920 winning and losing in meme culture and who's actual, who gets it and who doesn't Jack,

00:24:53.020 you're going to have to, Jack, you have to call for the tape.

00:24:55.140 I refuse or Andrew, if you really want to play this, but this is just one of hundreds

00:24:59.460 of these that exists.

00:25:01.540 There's, there's an AI that, uh, that went up.

00:25:04.400 It's one 14 and, um, you know, let's just go for it.

00:25:08.660 I feel a lot more freedom, a lot more empowered when I don't let my clothes show my gender

00:25:15.460 that day.

00:25:16.200 I love my high heel boots.

00:25:18.680 They make me feel like I'm riding hard and nobody knows just how tiny I am.

00:25:23.520 Instead, I feel tall and important.

00:25:27.180 Please clap.

00:25:29.600 It's from the great C3B meme from the great C3B meme. 0.57

00:25:34.180 And, and again, it's, it's, it speaks to sexual insecurity.

00:25:37.760 It really does.

00:25:38.820 And there's something about Ron DeSantis that's always given off an air of insecurity.

00:25:42.920 Uh, it's something that if you're, if you're, you know, conducting a meme campaign, or if you're

00:25:49.040 just involved in politics, marketing, you identify these things, you, you size them up.

00:25:53.740 And so, you know, looking at a guy that that's clearly that uptight, that insecure, you would

00:25:59.080 obviously want to, you know, go through all of these things.

00:26:02.620 And, and by the way, like I want to explain to people that this isn't something that just

00:26:06.140 like randomly occurred.

00:26:07.540 Okay.

00:26:07.940 This is something that the meme warriors have been focused on and have been researching

00:26:12.640 for really months when it comes to Ron DeSantis.

00:26:15.460 This is something, uh, where people have in, in, and I'm, I'm in hundreds of chat rooms

00:26:20.920 where people are talking about these chat groups, just all, all areas of the night.

00:26:25.260 Yeah.

00:26:25.360 This is the one Donald Trump Jr.

00:26:26.820 Posted this one from the courtroom of, uh, that's Ron DeSantis and, uh, his, his, the,

00:26:32.840 the state of Italy, the country of Italy has become his, um, his boots, his, his, his high

00:26:38.180 top boots.

00:26:38.520 That's actually one where, uh, Brent, the guy who made it, actually, that's his body.

00:26:43.200 He went and took a picture of himself standing at that angle.

00:26:46.420 So that's not even Ron DeSantis.

00:26:47.840 He just did that himself.

00:26:49.340 So it would perfectly fit with the boot of Italy.

00:26:53.320 That's the level that our guys will go on.

00:26:56.080 And, and again, this is something where, and Andrew and to the rest, like, you know, we

00:27:00.300 explained to them what would happen a year ago, that, that all of this would come to pass

00:27:04.660 if they decided to take a run at Trump and that this was, was always in the cards.

00:27:10.300 It was always going to end up like this.

00:27:12.220 I don't want to be clear.

00:27:13.160 This is not just like a thought crime thing.

00:27:15.200 Number two trending on X was covered on all of the mainstream media networks.

00:27:20.080 Um, the liberals were covering it, the conservatives were covering it, every article it's all over

00:27:25.000 TikTok, by the way.

00:27:26.080 So then it started trending on TikTok.

00:27:27.760 And we're playing that video earlier where he's just walking very awkwardly in his boots.

00:27:31.200 And, um, I, I think this is just something where it's become sort of a forever label that

00:27:37.100 he's going to be known as the boots guy.

00:27:39.100 So just lean into it.

00:27:40.320 The AI, that AI clip, I'm just thinking how that's going to totally revolutionize politics.

00:27:48.500 Like how much stronger is it going to be in a year where it's going to totally fool people

00:27:52.780 now?

00:27:53.120 Imagine, you know, no offense.

00:27:54.780 Like there's a lot of old voters who they already struggle with text articles.

00:27:58.420 Like you've seen the emails we get where it's like, people say, Charlie, did you hear Katie

00:28:02.920 Hobbs got executed?

00:28:03.580 Got executed, arrested, executed.

00:28:05.260 We get a couple.

00:28:06.000 Now imagine we have video clips where it's, you know, we have the scene and Donald Trump

00:28:10.360 is overseeing the executions.

00:28:12.440 And it also makes me wonder, will Donald Trump be the GOP nominee forever?

00:28:17.120 Because even after he's sadly departed this world, people won't accept that he's dead.

00:28:23.080 They mean after the media reports it?

00:28:25.180 After the media reports it.

00:28:26.600 Or just run him as AI.

00:28:27.680 Just run AI Trump.

00:28:29.160 There's enough footage.

00:28:30.580 He's probably the most AI-able person in the world.

00:28:34.140 No one has more footage of him.

00:28:35.680 I have a theory on why this is so devastating.

00:28:39.100 It's because it plays into all of the little whisper, rumor mill stuff that was already circulating

00:28:46.700 about Ron DeSantis.

00:28:48.000 That he was awkward with people.

00:28:50.000 That he wasn't that warm.

00:28:51.420 That all the local politicians, I mean, when you have all of Florida, basically, and just

00:28:56.200 breaking this week is Rick Scott has now endorsed President Trump for 2024.

00:29:02.580 When you have all of Florida that's supposed to know you best, say, and I think Stube,

00:29:07.780 Congressman Stube said that, you know, he never heard from Ron DeSantis before he was

00:29:13.600 trying to endorse somebody.

00:29:14.840 And, you know, so he just said, hey, if you're not going to call me, I'm going with, yeah.

00:29:19.400 Yeah.

00:29:19.760 When he had that big accident.

00:29:21.000 So you have all of these things that we hear about and everybody's kind of whispering about

00:29:25.940 is Ron a little, like a genuine question.

00:29:28.740 Is Ron a little bit autistic?

00:29:31.440 A little?

00:29:32.240 Maybe he is.

00:29:32.600 Maybe, maybe he's not.

00:29:33.840 All right.

00:29:34.160 I'm just saying people, people, people, this is what everybody just says.

00:29:37.460 By the way, by the way, I can, I can, yeah, go ahead.

00:29:40.420 Andrew, and I'll just say this because you and I had this conversation, was it October?

00:29:45.080 No, it's November already.

00:29:46.000 It was, it was over a year ago.

00:29:47.180 You and I had this conversation about DeSantis.

00:29:49.200 And I said at the time, what he needs to do is very clear, is you need to lean into it.

00:29:56.260 Drop the Florida guy act because it's clearly not working.

00:29:59.180 It's not getting over.

00:30:01.440 Go, go change your uniform, change your stripes.

00:30:04.360 What you do is you rebrand.

00:30:05.880 And do you remember when, when Bill Maher gave him this, this shout out the one time

00:30:10.160 and said, you know, something that's interesting about Ron DeSantis, that he actually reads,

00:30:13.580 he understands the data, he understands COVID, he understands vaccines.

00:30:16.260 And, and people were really talking about that.

00:30:18.140 You lean in on the Ron DeSantis is a wonky, you know, maybe a little bit awkward, but nerdy

00:30:26.080 kind of smart guy.

00:30:27.520 And so I would have, I said, drop the boots, uh, drop the vests.

00:30:32.420 Leather jackets.

00:30:33.120 He's got to keep the boots because he's, he's already.

00:30:35.880 He's leaning forward because, uh, but, um, you, you, and honestly, what I said, the best

00:30:42.680 thing that he could do is just put a pair of glasses on him, literally just put a pair

00:30:47.180 of glasses on him.

00:30:48.060 They could just be the blue blockers or something.

00:30:49.580 And he will come across as, you know, kind of like more of a Blake and it's just more accurate to what

00:30:57.680 he actually is.

00:30:59.380 Just embrace who you are.

00:31:01.280 Is this a flaw of our modern political system though?

00:31:04.160 Because genuinely DeSantis is a good operator.

00:31:08.180 He's a good manager of the state of, well, yeah.

00:31:11.220 I mean, but it kind of, it makes me think, it makes me think back to when they first televised

00:31:17.120 the presidential debate.

00:31:18.020 Right.

00:31:18.420 And Richard Nixon looked all sweaty and gross and JFK came off well.

00:31:23.640 Right.

00:31:23.960 I mean, it's sort of the modern iteration of that.

00:31:26.160 And you, you have a situation here where you've got a guy that, yeah, he's pretty nerdy.

00:31:31.120 He reads stuff.

00:31:32.040 I think of those as genuinely positive traits.

00:31:36.200 He actually read the research on COVID.

00:31:39.080 Good operator.

00:31:40.040 Right. 0.99

00:31:40.560 But in our modern system, that is de-emphasized as opposed to the fact that he's just a dork 0.99

00:31:47.140 now. 0.98

00:31:47.520 Right.

00:31:47.800 I mean, and I'm not saying I believe that.

00:31:49.980 I mean, I'm saying the world believes that.

00:31:51.740 Blake, to his credit, we got to move on.

00:31:55.000 Blake, to his credit, was the only one in the voice.

00:31:56.940 He said, by the fall, post-Labor Day, everyone in the MAGA movement will hate and make fun of

00:32:01.400 DeSantis.

00:32:01.740 He's like, no, he's great.

00:32:02.980 And Blake saw forth a prophecy of the collapse of Ronnie D.

00:32:08.140 OK, next topic.

00:32:09.920 Jack, is Halloween over because of immigrants? 0.99

00:32:14.420 We've got to start with the clip.

00:32:16.180 We have to start with the clip.

00:32:17.500 By the way, this clip is really driving people insane.

00:32:21.800 And whenever there is a micro video that sometimes confirms a macro suspicion, people lose their

00:32:29.240 mind.

00:32:29.640 What is the cut here?

00:32:30.680 Do we have it?

00:32:32.460 We definitely have it.

00:32:33.540 Let me.

00:32:34.820 Well, as we search for it, you know, Jack.

00:32:37.520 99, 99.

00:32:38.100 Play cut 99.

00:32:39.180 Got it.

00:32:39.480 Steve, I did.

00:32:47.020 I did.

00:32:48.680 I did.

00:32:49.120 I did.

00:32:50.300 I did.

00:32:51.180 I did.

00:32:53.000 Oh, coming!

00:32:54.340 You're waiting?

00:32:54.640 Don't leave.

00:32:55.300 I did.

00:32:56.340 It's over.

00:32:57.140 Don't leave.

00:32:57.660 Don't leave.

00:32:58.940 Don't leave me alone.

00:32:59.360 Don't leave me alone.

00:33:00.000 okay so jack for on podcasting describe what we just saw so what you're seeing is a it starts out

00:33:15.760 as a sort of typical halloween night uh kids are going and by the way this is we we have now video

00:33:21.840 of trick-or-treating because of the prevalence of you know ring cameras and home surveillance

00:33:27.100 systems that are that are just everywhere because we live in this uh we live in a high-tech low-trust

00:33:31.540 society now as opposed to a low-tech high-trust society which is a much larger conversation

00:33:36.440 and i hope we can get into but what you see in this video is a couple of kids out trick-or-treating

00:33:41.940 having a good time and then you have what appears to be some sort of third world uh migrant just 0.93

00:33:49.720 running up and essentially stealing all of the candy uh someone who's obviously far older than

00:33:56.540 the other kids were there or anyone who should be trick-or-treating at any uh serious age and is

00:34:01.980 obviously just out to steal candy and throw into a pillowcase so andrew you you did a fair amount of

00:34:08.500 trick-or-treating is this a foreigner thing or is this a built is this just a human nature thing 0.80

00:34:13.500 why did this video trigger so many people well i mean i have a couple things to say here first i want

00:34:20.980 to acknowledge that i myself was guilty of doing similar things when i was a kid when they would

00:34:28.180 put the sign out and say just one um i told i said that in the chat and everybody was like oh andrew

00:34:33.740 you gotta share that all right so okay i'm sharing that i but i never raided the whole bowl that is

00:34:38.960 out of line i maybe took like a handful but it's the parent involved that triggered people that's the

00:34:44.720 yeah but this this this clip uh this clip triggers me actually to use the expression the favorite

00:34:51.080 leftist expression in so many ways you've got the fact that they're speaking spanish that is

00:34:56.100 infuriating to the normal public i'm sorry but if you know it's funny charlie you tweeted about it

00:35:01.600 and then we got a bunch of media inquiries like how do you know that these are illegals and i was like

00:35:06.000 uh you know just based on odds you know we just had you know 10 million are going to come across

00:35:11.220 with biden there was always there was perpetually 11 million in the country to begin with uh but

00:35:15.900 besides that it doesn't matter if they're legal or illegal they're speaking spanish and it's that

00:35:19.760 that part is infuriating it really is because you probably got some normal american home saying hey take

00:35:26.220 one and they rate it they don't leave a single piece of candy so you got parents teaching their kids

00:35:32.840 speaking spanish rating a whole i mean there's a lot of candy in there and then some of them drop to

00:35:38.660 the floor charlie and they have to get those too so so not only like they are making sure they don't

00:35:45.440 leave any scrap behind and then and then this poor guy comes up behind him and looks in is like oh

00:35:51.720 there's none left like i don't think that guy was with them i i'm pretty sure the second guy wasn't

00:35:57.000 with them it was another trick-or-treater coming behind them saying you know looking for candy and it

00:36:01.600 was all gone because of this awful family so anyways i i think it's absolutely obnoxious

00:36:08.320 this clip by the way went so viral like everybody posted it uh and and everybody got it just it it

00:36:16.040 inflamed the public well it went it went viral for similar reasons why the floyd thing went viral

00:36:22.320 because people have a belief in their head of something they see that's happening macro and then

00:36:27.180 micro confirms it so what is it well they see foreigners coming in and leeching off our social 1.00

00:36:31.800 services and taking what is ours and it's being sponsored by the adults in the room not the kids

00:36:37.300 i think it's i think it's less the symbol and it's actually more the direct thing it's that

00:36:42.340 there are for me it was the symbol when you when you have high amounts of social trust and like

00:36:48.400 kind of a shame a guilt shame driven culture where you i i should say guilt versus shame honor shame

00:36:56.940 culture guilt honor that sort of thing where you have an internal locus of morality you won't do a

00:37:02.380 bad thing because you will feel terrible and then shame is the outward version of this that if you are

00:37:07.580 caught doing something bad you will feel terrible but if you can get away with it in secret it

00:37:12.620 essentially doesn't matter and so when you have guilt driven you can do things like just you leave out

00:37:19.160 a box and you say take one and they will only take one and if you have the right group of people

00:37:26.060 that can sustain itself and there's huge surpluses that come from that that is where how you get

00:37:30.760 the nicest countries yes countries where people follow the law even if you don't have a policeman

00:37:37.200 there who will catch you if you break the law even if no one is going to actually punish you

00:37:42.540 when you do it anyway that is what creates the nicest societies and they see people who have come

00:37:47.780 into here and they see that society going away and we know america had it so there's a great story

00:37:52.180 in one of my favorite books the book is called the book that built your world it's about the bible

00:37:56.040 it's written he's been on our show vishal mengelwalde and he's an indian guy grew up in india and he

00:38:00.560 went to a conference in the netherlands and it was a christian pastor's conference and a friend of

00:38:05.360 his said hey let's go to the countryside so they go to the dutch uh countryside and they're rolling 0.61

00:38:10.080 through the hills they pull over to the side of the street and there's a an area it's a dairy

00:38:13.960 country there right so they have an opportunity to go get some milk and so there's a milk stand

00:38:18.340 they are completely unattended and it says please take whatever milk you get and pay for it and vishal

00:38:24.220 being from india first time really coming to the west was fascinated by this and he asked the guy

00:38:28.600 with him and he said how does this work so go well you know we all trust each other we're all you know

00:38:33.340 homogenous you know homogenous and christians and we're all the same place and so you just take the

00:38:38.040 milk you like and you leave some money and he says is this not how it would work in india and vishal

00:38:42.080 says work in india it's like not only we would steal the milk steal the money and the cows

00:38:46.380 he's like this would never happen and that because india is a very low trust society right

00:38:51.400 a lot of caste system sectarianism tribalism and to him you know the netherlands at the time it's

00:38:56.420 probably changed a lot because of arab muslims it was this ideal high trust society that's the

00:39:02.480 equivalent right dairy milk stands on the side of the street in the rolling hills of holland

00:39:07.220 could you have that today well you can't have halloween candy out anymore without it getting pillaged

00:39:14.280 or plundered yeah so oh no i was just gonna say kind of just double tap what you were saying

00:39:21.260 blake earlier that um you know trick-or-treating is something that could only arise in a high trust

00:39:28.340 society with bonds of community with a locus of morality um and obviously internal locus of morality

00:39:35.780 not where you one where you've got like the you know the moral police running around all the time

00:39:40.420 you know that's that's trick-or-treating you know it's funny i was talking to my mom about this

00:39:43.740 because i said i wanted to bring it up as a as a topic i'm glad that we did and she was talking

00:39:49.280 about growing up in the 60s um and she was saying in the king of prussia pennsylvania area she was saying

00:39:56.740 when i was a kid i don't even remember my parents ever going with us when we trick-or-treated we all

00:40:01.680 just i'll just went out she's one of five and she said when we were little we would just go out

00:40:06.080 we we'd be out there as kids we run around we'd come back there was no question of of it being an

00:40:12.800 issue whatsoever whereas these days you know maybe you could say it's a little more awareness but i

00:40:17.720 think it's also this level of you know lack of trust in our societies that's why you're seeing uh

00:40:24.800 trunk retreats are kind of the new big thing a lot of churches do this other churches do like the

00:40:28.780 harvest festival which is really just like a halloween without um without the name um then you you know

00:40:35.600 you find these areas where they'll do that and then you can find certain neighborhoods that will

00:40:39.360 still do this and i but i would also point out in the clip that that's a pretty big porch that you're

00:40:44.860 looking at with a pretty long driveway it looks pretty nice i'm guessing that's that's on four or

00:40:50.560 five bedroom house you know that's not some small house that's an affluent neighborhood where so we're

00:40:56.100 talking ballpark of you know they've got a column right look at the column there on the on the porch

00:41:01.920 so you know this is a very well that that means also why it's being targeted yeah the foreigners 0.99

00:41:07.480 in their head were rationalizing they're rich we're not we're taking your candy it's probably

00:41:12.500 literally there was the lower like go here you'll get more candy yes of course obviously everyone's

00:41:17.340 big home we're getting we're getting our peace they rationalized the i don't want to say it's evil but

00:41:23.460 the immer that's an immoral act right that is that is not glorifying to goodness i wouldn't use the

00:41:28.600 word evil for that i think that's evil i think it's evil to do that in front of your kids fine

00:41:33.360 i i mean honestly fair enough i mean i just i'm i don't want to do a prager here but i'm going to

00:41:38.260 be careful not throwing out evil like frisbees now i do i want to you know on the thing about the

00:41:43.120 parents out with them and i want to even double back to obviously i don't know the specifics here

00:41:47.480 there's a million reasons it could be fine but i think if we imagine an idealized halloween this

00:41:53.160 wouldn't happen not just because people wouldn't steal but i think we are losing the social element that

00:41:57.580 you know you ring the doorbell you come to the door you see the costume you say hello to the

00:42:03.480 children you give them the candy and you know i think that actually is the ideal way to do it and

00:42:10.000 it should be preferred you want to create the sense of community it comes from the communal act of doing

00:42:15.840 this which is the children go around and one reason they can do this is because there are adults

00:42:20.980 everywhere who look out for people in your neighborhood and so what you're seeing here in

00:42:25.320 microcosm is the decline of neighborly communities that they're not engaging in the halloween thing

00:42:31.540 except for leaving out a thing of candy neighbors i mean are less and less of a thing uh at least

00:42:38.000 in in some i don't know andrew if you agree or not but at least in the type of neighborhood

00:42:43.080 connectedness that i grew up with is largely a foreign concept in a lot of suburban well i you know i

00:42:48.800 remember i always go back to a conversation you had i think it was with chris buzzkirk and you guys

00:42:53.840 were talking about some something similar and he said that the norms that he grew up with

00:43:01.320 just normal middle class american lifestyle is becoming more and more of a luxury

00:43:07.020 so you in order to achieve what what just was normal you know 30 40 years ago now you gotta now

00:43:14.760 you gotta be making like high six figures you gotta if you want that house i mean to jack's point i think

00:43:19.840 that looks pretty affluent so what i see happen a lot is that there's target neighborhoods that are

00:43:25.800 known for having good halloween and you know i live in california and it's like you know one

00:43:32.600 neighborhood is like the go-to spot maybe there's a couple spots and it's like you know it's not

00:43:37.620 uncommon to hear a lot of spanish uh going on and i think blake you made the observation in the chat

00:43:43.400 earlier you were like you know honestly mexicans really love halloween i'd maybe it's the dia de los

00:43:47.860 muertos thing or whatever but it it's one of those cultural things that translates very very easily

00:43:53.240 it's a bit of that but it's that really if you look at honestly probably the best trait about

00:43:59.380 mexican americans is they do love a lot of stuff people kind of liked about older like 80s 90s

00:44:05.880 america a lot of stuff that's kind of cheesy more i don't want to say lower class but very much uh

00:44:11.740 you know pro-coded normie coded like they love you know they love cartoons they love anime they

00:44:17.860 love monster trucks they love pro wrestling and they love a very classic celebration of classic

00:44:23.560 american holidays like machismo let's go let's go well yeah and like let's go do halloween let's do

00:44:28.680 christmas stuff let's go to the park and that's all great and i think we do have to say like it's bad

00:44:35.740 that we're losing that neighborhood character i do worry it might just be inevitable like why did

00:44:41.260 we have why do people have this memory of stronger neighborhoods well in the past we had a lot of

00:44:47.140 ethnic neighborhoods even with europeans you'd have your polish neighborhood your ukrainian neighborhood 0.59

00:44:52.220 your jewish neighborhood and those disappeared and some of that's because of urban decay in the 60s

00:44:57.580 you know they would do you know crime exploded so people fled cities but you know they they could

00:45:02.700 have fled and still tried to recreate those neighborhoods but they didn't we just sort of had

00:45:06.200 suburbs people mixed up more and so you lose things that used to be common in neighborhoods you used to

00:45:12.300 have a neighborhood where everyone went to the same church now you'll have a lot of churches but people

00:45:16.760 just go to different ones so you don't have the assumption that you are at the same church as the people

00:45:21.200 if they even go at all and you don't necessarily have the same overall background you some of this is

00:45:29.000 language but it's a lot of additional things and then just people are more mobile people move all

00:45:32.640 the time yep and it's sad we lost that i don't know if there's an easy way to recreate it without

00:45:39.660 giving up a lot of things that we've also gotten used to and taken for granted and then just

00:45:43.760 everyone's online now you you build online communities and such instead of having to be

00:45:49.360 engaged in your community to do anything tyler who's not present here but in the chat made one of

00:45:54.520 the smartest points let's replay the tape what's missing in this tape replay it don't say it out loud

00:45:59.560 let's see if anybody watching replay the tape guys what what's missing here

00:46:05.580 such a smart point it's such i mean it's the most obvious point jack did you see the chat or anybody

00:46:14.740 make jack don't look at the chat look at the video what's missing what's missing i think a lot of

00:46:25.760 things that are missing it's very obvious it's so obvious but it's it's like i missed it until it

00:46:32.220 was someone noticed it is that none of the kids are dressed up for halloween there's one one kid's

00:46:36.640 wearing a costume no no no look at that that one with the hood is that there's a hoodie and then

00:46:42.900 there's like a hoodie there's a kid one of the kid no no wait till he comes around again the kid in

00:46:46.960 yellow is in a woody costume sheriff woody that's yeah that's woody from toy story

00:46:50.680 there's some kids there woody would not do that that is defamation of sheriff also a father is

00:46:56.800 missing is the other thing that's obviously that that guy that's maybe olav from uh from uh frozen

00:47:02.480 no i think i think i think it's not the kids under the adult it's just cold like the adults should

00:47:08.320 have costumes too but i guess you know most a lot of adults should not wear costumes yeah they should

00:47:13.500 come on have fun with it saturday well we usually do like a family theme so we do like yeah you know

00:47:19.660 we did scooby-doo this year we did uh we did batman and like the batman villains last year we

00:47:25.300 did uh adam's family one year so he dressed up as ash ketchum and then the baby stroller was a giant

00:47:33.960 pokeball that's funny all right so we're losing halloween just like we're losing our country

00:47:39.780 but here's here's the good news guys i went i went trick-or-treating with my kids and it was

00:47:44.280 it was like a flashback to childhood it really was so i i think i think we can make the mistake

00:47:49.640 of saying that this stuff is everywhere and it's everything's going to hell all i we had a good 0.56

00:47:55.100 halloween i will say that we had a great halloween very safe lots of families great to see the young

00:47:59.580 kids running around so hopefully hopefully to your point charlie or blake you know we can sort of hold

00:48:06.640 on to some of these things and i also want to say harvest festivals have been going on for a long time

00:48:12.580 because christians are very skeptical about halloween in general so we did that actually on on sunday so we

00:48:19.140 did a big harvest uh festival at our at our church and then we went trick-or-treating on tuesday

00:48:24.240 okay blake set up this no kids thing because i had a breakthrough that i didn't mention with berenson

00:48:29.140 but said it all awesome awesome so uh we had alex berenson on the show the other day but this is all

00:48:34.660 because of a hugely viral thing on his sub stack you can bring it up on it's on my laptop here if you

00:48:38.980 want to show it uh he did a post on his unreported truths sub stack which is why are so many

00:48:45.040 adults in rich countries refusing to have kids and as he points out it's not just the united states

00:48:51.740 it's not just europe it's not just japan it's south korea is down to like 0.78 children per women so

00:48:58.600 your population will fall by two-thirds every generation it's uh china china is not even a very

00:49:03.840 rich country yet already down way down uh latin america it's low the middle east it's gotten really

00:49:10.280 low it's basically dropped essentially everywhere except large chunks of africa still have pretty

00:49:15.140 high fertility but everywhere else and and gaza and gaza and afghanistan afghanistan's very high

00:49:21.320 uh your median afghan was born after we invaded afghanistan 20 uh 22 years ago and so it's just

00:49:29.600 it's falling everywhere it's not just in rich countries it's uh even in relatively more religious

00:49:35.920 countries you still see it down like iran iran has low fertility uh it's just it's falling all over

00:49:42.880 the place and kind of the question is why because a lot of the things we would blame are factors in

00:49:48.420 some of these countries but not all of them and so it's a very big question why do people not have kids

00:49:56.660 jack what is i did a whole show on this uh what is your theory jack

00:50:01.520 so i think there's a correlation between and i actually i actually haven't read alex berenson's

00:50:10.420 piece on this um not that not that i'm any against alex berenson i think i'm the only guy who's read

00:50:15.340 all of his like fiction and non-fiction um but uh just having a chance to get to it even though i know

00:50:21.360 i did i was one of the guys who dropped it in the chat the first time that i i think there's a

00:50:26.160 correlation between having more disposable income more things to do in society more choices more

00:50:33.120 opportunity and basically a falling out of so the first correlation is that if there's a falling out

00:50:40.980 of religion and there's a falling out of uh that central focus that central focus of society central

00:50:47.140 moral core of religion as societies become more affluent they tend to become more secular we've seen

00:50:52.960 that around the world certainly we've seen that in europe uh we're facing that in the united states

00:50:56.820 um in asia you know it's kind of a jump ball because uh they're some of their religions aren't 0.99

00:51:02.040 like religion religions the way we would kind of classify them but that's a much longer story um

00:51:07.000 and because of that the sort of moral imperative to have children is sort of diminished or it's or it's

00:51:14.180 lost and so therefore you end up getting the situation where people think of kids as you know the more

00:51:20.840 money you have you start to think of do i want kids should i have kids how many kids do i have

00:51:25.320 whereas in you know previous times it might just be oh well you know we got married let's have kids

00:51:32.420 or oh we you know we uh we're not married let's have kids anyway you still do see these things going

00:51:38.420 on but the trend lines are there but i would just i guess i would say that within a country at the

00:51:43.700 different social levels um this is something that also plays a role as well but i you know i really

00:51:50.180 do think that on you know on on whole we're talking about those big halloween neighborhoods you know

00:51:56.180 those big neighborhoods where people want to go you know the the the full bar neighborhoods right

00:52:00.240 everybody knows where the full bar neighborhoods are um that's that yeah they they they tend to have

00:52:06.280 more dogs these days than they do kids yeah so i think part of it is it's just harder to have kids

00:52:12.820 because there's something in our food that is actively poisoning people's fertility uh that's 1.00

00:52:17.920 100 percent happening it's the food or the toxins or the air that's not the only thing you know going

00:52:23.400 off that wouldn't really count that wouldn't cover europe though well so like well i would say what

00:52:27.640 stands out to me go ahead guys like with catholics so there are catholics who basically say don't use

00:52:32.160 birth control and as as the pope says and so people who are catholic know families that have

00:52:37.380 quite a few kids sure but even there you know i think my grandparent my great grandparents had

00:52:42.740 i can't remember off the top of my head i think they had 10 plus kids even if you know traditional

00:52:47.960 catholic families who have a lot of kids they'll have seven kids or eight kids i don't know i've never

00:52:54.340 seen a family that had 10 11 12 very very and i'm not saying that used to be commonplace they used to be

00:52:59.700 common and i guess i'm not what i'm saying that means it's a cultural psychological it's i think

00:53:04.120 it's a bit cultural psychological but it might go towards the biological thing that even people

00:53:08.420 who are essentially saying we'll have as many kids as god decides to have us have they end up having

00:53:13.840 seven or eight instead of 12 there is there is something that is suppressing testosterone rates

00:53:18.420 i mean it just is it's true i don't know what it is yeah yeah blake just to just throw on that so

00:53:23.780 you know going to uh you know we have our kids in a catholic school and you know i'll i'll see

00:53:29.460 as the uh you know as the kids um you know as the families we drop our kids off in the morning

00:53:34.300 and yeah you see the minivans that you know that you're used to seeing but yeah it i haven't seen

00:53:39.360 anyone with like the huge brood of kids that i even i remember in the 80s 90s you know there would

00:53:45.680 always be a couple of families that were like six plus seven plus as you say i'm not seeing that as

00:53:52.300 much anymore yeah and so the definitely they're one of the roles is women are getting married later 1.00

00:53:59.220 and later i i think in the west i didn't talk about this berenson that's huge that's the amount

00:54:02.840 of the amount of young gay people plays a role we we didn't mention that with berenson but if you got

00:54:07.000 10 to 15 you got 20 of people that are gay you're not going to procreate right so that that but that 1.00

00:54:11.360 doesn't explain why even the monogamous couples are having less kids right that explains the macro 0.98

00:54:16.640 population collapse it doesn't explain why the actual family units are there and then again i

00:54:22.820 there's evidence that corn or other things are really having a lot of negative impacts on

00:54:27.760 testosterone rates and can block um can actually uh be andro what they call androcon endocrine

00:54:33.580 disruptors thank you that there's there's a lot of evidence to support that but it's it's deeper

00:54:37.860 than that because i mean countries that are largely um that have insulated food supplies that are

00:54:44.560 that are not as you know um let's just say into corporate farming as we are here where we are

00:54:50.840 food is trash in the west uh they they seem to also have i don't know if their testosterone rates are

00:54:55.980 low but their fertility fertility rates are low so andrew what what is it i mean this is a global 0.80

00:55:01.240 phenomenon outside of i think nigeria somalia and andrew as a theory and and blake i know certainly

00:55:09.180 does we'll get there second but andrew yeah i mean i've got three kids um i could tell you that

00:55:17.040 the fact that we even got to three was a like a it had to do with spiritual our faith

00:55:23.160 b it had to do with values um but see i really i really relate to people that are struggling with

00:55:31.460 whether or not they want to have kids now i am like a big champion of kids i'm trying to get

00:55:35.360 everybody knocked up and pregnant everyone all my married friends where i'm always like go for the 0.92

00:55:39.740 third go for the fourth um but i i think what's interesting and i forget who hit on this but as a

00:55:46.720 country gets a little bit more affluent it's that kind of lower middle class to middle class realm that

00:55:54.840 i think this is really affecting because once you get to the upper upper class they have enough money

00:55:59.860 to afford babysitting they have enough money to and and then it becomes like a status symbol right

00:56:05.140 where you want to have a lot of kids to because it's some sort of status thing but the the what

00:56:10.780 happens is i think we're more online we're more distracted the incentive structure's all off and

00:56:15.140 we're more secular so it's it the short-term payoff is you get to you know travel i mean our generation's

00:56:23.080 obsessed with experiences and traveling all these very selfish things that our parents were like hey we

00:56:28.640 thought of a vacation is like loading up the family wagon and going to yosemite now it's like

00:56:34.040 no we're gonna go to the south of france for three weeks and we're gonna work remote and yeah the kids

00:56:38.820 just don't really fit into that um and they're more online it's more social media more distracted

00:56:43.740 and i i think i think it's i think it's actually modernity as a whole has flipped the incentive

00:56:50.280 structure on its head so that a lot of people just aren't aren't uh incentivized i think it's for

00:56:55.600 different people different things though i don't think you could i don't think you could

00:56:59.140 i don't think you could name one or even two that's reasons why it's lower i think it's like

00:57:03.740 five or six yeah but that that blake blake has a theory because that doesn't usually if there's not

00:57:11.400 if there's not a one or two input explanation you simply usually don't see a global phenomenon is

00:57:16.280 that right blake is that i mean to see a global phenomenon that's this transcultural this

00:57:20.620 transcontinental this you know that transcends socioeconomic lines usually it takes i don't

00:57:26.000 know like a virus like covid to have data like that but what what's going on here in your opinion

00:57:31.000 i definitely agree that it's a lot of things i want to say when i've looked into it and researched it

00:57:36.620 the single most decisive one tends to be women's education when women get educated essentially on the 0.99

00:57:45.480 level of men that is when you start seeing fertility decline and i think that happens for a few reasons

00:57:50.500 it gives young women something to do besides get married they have greater uh they have greater 0.99

00:57:55.800 economic independence if they can work in the economy equally which means there's less economic

00:58:00.500 reason to get married even if you're otherwise not as inclined to do it um it means this is just

00:58:07.140 blunt it means they have more knowledge about how to prevent pregnancy uh in various ways

00:58:11.900 and all of these factors combined drives down fertility and you see accounts of this even in

00:58:18.840 relatively traditional cultures like um like india for example you'll have mothers in india who will

00:58:24.940 still encourage their daughters even if they promote you know arranged marriages even if they

00:58:29.840 promote having kids they still encourage them complete your education and so that's pushing the date

00:58:34.500 back and if you delay marriage by five years that's five years where you might have in the past had

00:58:39.700 two kids three kids those are wiped out you're starting later and you're giving people reasons they can

00:58:47.500 essentially be more selective in a spouse in the past women had very little economic independence 1.00

00:58:54.520 very little economic stability and they got that by getting married and this created upsides in

00:59:03.040 society but it did create a lot of downsides this does cause this did cause women to get married to 1.00

00:59:08.440 people they probably wouldn't have gotten married to otherwise to have kids they probably wouldn't

00:59:11.860 have had otherwise and there's upsides to them not having to do this but it is a big feeder in people

00:59:19.340 overall getting married less uh another thing i would note is it's actually it was actually

00:59:25.720 somewhat historically unusual in western society for everyone to get married in the past we were

00:59:31.820 very dependent on people who didn't marry having a ton of kids and you saw it a lot who would opt out i

00:59:37.520 mean if you think of like catholic societies the number of people who would become nuns the number

00:59:42.260 of people who'd become uh priests the number of people who just wouldn't marry for one reason or

00:59:47.140 another was actually pretty high and this is just offset by the people who do marry will have five

00:59:51.900 kids sick kids seven kids more uh now you're going back to a reality where you know people don't

00:59:57.760 become nuns and priests as much anymore but they become you know whatever people identify as these

01:00:03.860 days and they don't get married well it could it be though that modernity gives it gives something

01:00:09.280 else for men and women to aim for other than just child raising and child rearing does life expectancy

01:00:16.280 yes does life expectancy getting longer actually make you less like because you almost have a new life

01:00:22.580 after the kids become 20 right i know that might i'm just trying to understand what a global psychology

01:00:28.440 would be well we we definitely have the idea of a career i don't think that if you are a farmer in

01:00:34.680 the 1800s you think like i'm going to not have kids because i want to be really focused on my

01:00:39.420 agriculture career no that's what i'm saying that's why you would have eight or nine that was your

01:00:42.440 wealth that the eight or nine kids your wealth it was also just what was done the idea was i mean

01:00:47.080 people have a pretty natural drive two out of eight would die too yeah they would die and so

01:00:52.180 it's almost hard for us to get into the head of that that it's so psychologically inculcated

01:00:56.620 that one there wasn't a lot of easy ways to prevent pregnancy back then or it wasn't easily

01:01:01.140 known and on top of that just it's so baked in it's just it is what one does it is what happens

01:01:09.220 and it we almost can't imagine that anymore because now we are in a society where it is an option it is

01:01:15.260 something that you can choose and we can't really rewind the clock to a time where it was otherwise

01:01:20.600 there's there's another there's one other angle that i just want to mention so we're all in the

01:01:25.380 conversation i know you know we're getting kind of long on it but um with with a lot of like

01:01:29.980 millennials elder millennials people i talk to um you know we talk about the country becoming richer

01:01:34.800 but that doesn't necessarily mean that every every rung of that society has gotten richer and with a lot

01:01:41.920 of the millennials that are millennial situation i've got people coming to me because you know most

01:01:46.960 elder millennials are hitting you know starting to look at 40 right they're starting to see it right 1.00

01:01:50.760 around the corner um and some people who have gone through the you know the economic you know economic

01:01:57.760 turmoil i guess of of that decade that decade plus of graduating college then hitting boom uh great

01:02:04.780 recession going through all of it which parallels the you know at the same time as war paralleling not

01:02:10.080 not i'm saying not the same as but it's it's a parallel structure to uh almost the great depression

01:02:16.060 world war ii in terms of time uh where you have this huge economic turmoil that people have been

01:02:20.980 delaying family formation which then ties into obviously what blake is saying about um that the

01:02:27.560 fertility window is just closing so you can't delay that because there is a biological clock on this

01:02:32.700 and so for a lot of people who are middle class even upper middle class they're realizing that they

01:02:38.060 they're not hitting that career career goal where they wanted to so they're trying to hit that first

01:02:43.700 before they can go back to the family goal but they're realizing they can't do that uh people

01:02:48.820 were told a lot of a lot of girls were told back in in college in the mid-2000s oh freeze your eggs

01:02:53.500 you know you can go do that you know it'll be on the shelf when you need it but then you find out

01:02:57.000 there's more complications with that there's ivf complications that people run into uh turns out

01:03:01.840 it's not that easy to have kids when you hit that age and then also the fact that people aren't

01:03:07.080 getting married as much anymore in general that which goes on you know a whole nother line about

01:03:11.380 the relationship between the sexes and women in this country um you know has been pushed off so

01:03:17.300 far that but it basically put it to say i know a lot of millennials i know a lot of elder millennials

01:03:24.160 who wish they had kids who want to have kids but for one reason or another that usually harkens back

01:03:30.820 to one of those uh one of those factors does not have kids okay uh closing thought andrew

01:03:38.320 andrew is muted right now oh okay here we go um steve jobs said that before he died he went all

01:03:50.540 around the world after the the iphone and he realized something profound i think this was in his

01:03:57.100 biography just before he died that there was something he called the globalization of youth

01:04:02.240 right the globalization of youth he was seeing that among older generations they were very different

01:04:08.680 from one another the cultural norms still still held between germany and turkey and china but when you

01:04:15.940 got to younger generations they were all reading the same stuff exposed to the same ideas the iphone

01:04:22.200 revolutionized everything because you could and it made so when you're talking about a global trend

01:04:28.780 charlie you're talking about something that is becoming more and more the norm because those

01:04:33.120 people in 2010 are now you know 13 years older and they're they're a larger part of the working

01:04:39.860 population the globalization of youth is now the globalization to jack's point of 40 year olds

01:04:44.760 okay so when you've got we're more distracted we have more options we i think that that's so so

01:04:53.960 important when you're talking about global trends i think we're going to see more and more global

01:04:58.220 trends that people are grasping at at uh reasons for but it's just because you're simply exposed to

01:05:04.200 so much i mean tiktok's a global phenomenon twitter's a global phenomenon so we're consuming so much of

01:05:09.720 the same content i wouldn't be surprised uh to see that again you know the last the last the last

01:05:15.880 takeaway which is obvious is that it's now more and more acceptable to have sex outside of marriage

01:05:21.100 aka use birth control outside of marriage and that is a global toxin that is spreading

01:05:26.760 and that that's you fight you factor that in with all the other stuff okay you know that gavin newsom

01:05:33.360 went to china but did you know that donald john trump also speaks fluent chinese play cut 116 the media

01:05:41.340 won't tell you this

01:05:44.040 jack what is he saying it's it's accurately translated what is he i don't i don't see it what is he saying

01:06:04.140 uh you must cross the road you must cross the mountains search of flowers this will be the new

01:06:13.700 it will be the new flowers do not be scared the fireflies will fly

01:06:19.800 oh he writes in chinese too

01:06:25.900 that pick of him on the great wall go with the sword goes so hard

01:06:31.640 ai is really gonna ruin us blake we're done 0.90

01:06:36.680 or it could liberate us is this is this is this elevating content

01:06:42.200 uh yeah yeah i think it's pretty strong i like it but this is so wait tie this back though to the

01:06:48.260 desanis memes versus the trump meme like the trump memes are absurdist and always make him look like

01:06:54.200 some kind of uh otherworldly superhero type figure where he can you can throw him into because there's

01:07:02.440 another one where he's doing like a daiwali dance at an at a hindu wedding uh where it's it's it's

01:07:09.340 incredible it's just amazing and then and then you throw him into traditional chinese song and it's

01:07:15.400 also amazing right there's some there's a certain x factor to trump that makes him one of the most

01:07:20.900 memeable people on the face of the planet and it it is very hard to describe but i would say probably the

01:07:27.520 the main reason that he's so memeable is because it's it's there's something just so wrong about it

01:07:34.140 it's so taboo to have donald trump who's portrayed as a a racist and a xenophobe and and all of this

01:07:40.480 to be not only fully embracing chinese culture but also fluently speaking and singing in mandarin

01:07:46.660 it's just deep down trump is basically the funniest person in the world yeah not not like a stand-up

01:07:52.820 comedian way necessarily but in like a deep way he is profoundly incredibly he's like that person

01:07:59.080 personally and just the concept of trump everything about it well that's the thing is that trump is

01:08:04.040 bigger than a person he's an aura vibe he's an archetype i have seen videos trump is not an

01:08:09.760 archetype of something trump is the archetype there's a video from 2016 that portrays donald trump

01:08:14.520 as a nazi who will blow up planet earth and the video makes you like trump more that's the anime one

01:08:21.040 right yes the anime one yeah yeah there's like it's like this anime one where he's also like got like an

01:08:26.460 army of gundams and yeah he's like a giant robot and he blasts off into space and he blows up planet

01:08:31.220 earth and you're like yes trump 2016 people say that you know trump is playing a part or is the

01:08:36.020 part playing trump that's the question that's chinese philosophy that's that's really deep all

01:08:41.780 right everybody keep committing thought crimes audi the virtue how do you say goodbye in chinese

01:08:47.140 yeah that see you next week everybody

01:08:51.780 the crime is death 0.98

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 04, 2023

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