THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 24 — DINKS and SINKS? Taylor Swift: Person of the Year?
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1 hour and 6 minutes
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Summary
This week, the boys discuss Taylor Swift, the most famous celebrity in the world, and the most successful human being on planet earth, and how she has managed to be a multi-millionaire while being a subpar human being.
Transcript
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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hello everybody happy thought crime thursday jack posobik is with us we both decided to wear
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our pimp shirts the zelensky shirts see that boom these are the shirts that when when you want
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millions even billions of dollars from the u.s government this is the shirt to wear this is
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right here blake blake is back from auschwitz blake yeah back back from i got stuck in auschwitz
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that that i'm told that's a common problem there but uh my tour group accidentally left me behind
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and so i was i was abandoned at birkenau and then i also saw i saw napoleon in a movie theater built
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by joseph stalin uh it was fitting it was a very stalinistic uh film in the sense that it went on
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forever and i really really wanted to leave but couldn't tyler happy to be here charlie we're we're
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alive and kicking we are here all right so first what is the first story first story uh person of
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the year taylor swift uh they had a lot of options they could have picked but time went with uh the
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swifties they are the most important thank god wow she pulled it off boys pulled it off she pulled
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it off gosh i just just love her so so much i mean just think of all her accomplishments you know
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her um you know and then there was the uh the time that she uh you know with with the children that
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she um doesn't have uh and the um the uh what what has she done what has she accomplished actually
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guys can can anyone name like a she had a really she is the most famous celebrity in the world that
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appears to be what the justification for it was was just uh-huh well who determines that
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so here's the opening line from the time person of the year article if you guys want to bring it up
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on screen if you can uh we can show it here but uh taylor swift is telling me a story and when taylor
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swift tells you a story you listen because you know it's going to be good not only because she's
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had an extraordinary life but because she's an extraordinary storyteller so okay all right
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that's a name of her best stories can anyone name some of there's that song romeo and julia i don't
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remember love story i guess is the name of the song and she's in love with the guy but they're
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parents don't like the guy isn't her whole genre about how she's childless and unmarried
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isn't that her whole thing which is rallying up young women to sing about their misery
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i you know she sings about happy stuff too and what i think it's fascinating how she goes from that
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and still gives off virgin vibes the whole time like she pulls from every category it's not the vibe i
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go yeah that's how parents i don't but parents think that she's like this like a virgin she's
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like they agree with tyler i think tyler's like the virgin mary 100 percent tyler is totally right
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that if you talk to your normie suburban housewife they think she's like mother mary and i want my
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daughter to be like her and she has she has a body count that needs an exponent well and here's the
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other part that you lay on top of that she's not even that attractive so like the entire paradox
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this whole thing that she's made parents believe that she's like a virgin she has you know this
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well-accomplished career of not ever doing anything like that like you should do in order to be a
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successful human being on planet earth while at the same time being really subpar average like if you
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didn't know who taylor swift was you saw her in a shopping mall she would be a four maybe a five like
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on like her best day like as a normal person not four no i'm not gonna go on her best day
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come on dude she's had like let's tens of millions of dollars put into her jack
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like it's not have you seen those memes you're not you're not ugly you're just poor she's not she
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has spent all that money if she was normal taylor swift she's a 10 i i'm not saying she's a 10
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i'm not saying she's a nine before the millions of dollars she was a five yes a four a four she's
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like a seven if you made a bell curve probably 50 million dollars you made a bell curve of the
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women in america in which an average person is five you would put taylor swift to the left of that
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have you been to an amusement park in the last decade have you been to a movie theater have you
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did you see her mouth have you been to an airport she had she got money have you been
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she can i say something about is it she doesn't have any okay really hard have you seen the
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kardashians before money here's here's the real here's the real story here's the real story though
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the reason she can give off that vibe is she doesn't have a septum piercing i don't think she
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has does she have any tattoos if they are i don't know them off the top of my head not that we know
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of um yeah so no like prominent ones and like that goes a long way because now
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and she doesn't have a nose piercing like she doesn't do all these things that an extremely
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large share of women do and i don't know why they do it because it's very off-putting but it's
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very common now and so you know yeah you come off you come off very guys have one i think that's
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the charlie's point that's why parents think she's the virgin mary because she's like the only
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she looks wholesome she really does and so jack sorry you're remote so sometimes we talk
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over you jack the floor is yours oh yeah no i was just gonna say um that you know we talked about
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this a couple of weeks ago but you know the travis kelsey is just really the next addition to the
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taylor swift body count gallery the museum will be opened at the end of her career um you know when
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you really think about it charlie i actually agree with you in terms of that saying that whatever
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whatever the the machine makers the factory uh mavens there in the entertainment industrial complex
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who have been working on the career of taylor swift it's like it's like first it was britney
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spears and then that got screwed up so they had to they had to shelve that moved in the next one
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then hillary duff as they tried then she kind of like faded into the shadows then there was miley
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cyrus miley cyrus i think everyone understands was a completely failed experiment but with taylor swift
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with taylor swift they finally got it right she didn't go off the deep end they were like okay
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don't put her in the disney machine don't put her in the disney box um something something goes very
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very wrong with girls when you put them in the disney box as uh as young girls uh we later found out
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with many ashley simpson by the way is a huge example of that ariana grande has some names that she should
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probably name dan schneider uh his feet fetish and and many others but with taylor swift right so she was
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able to kind of avoid all of those normal pitfalls that seem to seem to encumber many you know young
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uh a starlet i guess the name would be uh young starlets as they're on their way up i mean i think
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she tried acting once or twice but didn't really take off and and we have that i don't know if we
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have that clip but there is that clip speaking of her acting of when she um you guys remember this
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thing when she went off on um marcia blackburn i guess in this documentary quasi documentary talking
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about how oh marcia blackburn doesn't have tennessee christian values which you know by the way
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uh taylor swift you're you're from redding pennsylvania you're from like 30 minutes away from me in the
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northeast you're not from tennessee like tennessee not from the south i know like you're you're you're not
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you're you're not from that you're missing she's just next to just next to writing do we have that
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do it's cut uh so so anyway all right before we get into the cut before you get into the cut i think
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we should explain why it is that you know that why this matters and for a number of reasons but
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i my theory is that they are going to be turning taylor swift into a ballot harvesting operation and
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turnout mechanism for the democrats in 2024 whoever their nominee is going to be looks like it's going
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to be biden at this point but yeah just like oprah was in the past like they tried to do with vote
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or die and madonna even before that right this is going to be a whole new level of operation
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because the swifties represent a just a new type of fandom that we've never seen before and with the
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power of social media they are going to be turned on as like an abortion army to come forward in the
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2024 election i guarantee it okay so i have a couple so let's just kind of show 72 this is a very
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i i don't understand this here's taylor swift who you know she was endorsing joe biden but she did it
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with these like disgusting walmart cookies right back in 2020 as if i mean and by the way is this
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some sort of thing like i should be in the kitchen making cookies for you is that what you're trying
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to tell us taylor swift is that like your rightful place is to make cookies or something it's a very
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weird she didn't make those i think it's reading a bit much into that who does that it's very strange
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if you're going to put like they're complicated frosty designs on cookies they always end up
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looking like kind of crap am i supposed to believe she actually made those i don't think so yeah i
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think this whole thing is an i don't think a lot of people are asking that question she definitely
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ordered them she wanted to endorse joe biden so she got joe biden cookies i don't think it matters
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whether she made them it's not cute it's not interesting i don't find anything she does to be
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interesting but that's the whole she's an op she's a created op of the mockingbird what i would say is
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we talk about her all the time so we clearly do find her interesting in some no no it's forced on
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us that's not true i would never talk about her if this wasn't force-fed by the masters of the
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universe time magazine and force-fed is travis kelsey oh yeah what happens hold on you cannot watch
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an nfl game travis kelsey for state farm travis kelsey for pfizer travis kelsey for some random car
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insurance thing travis it's like what company doesn't have travis kelsey i mean i i'm trying to
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watch a dang football game and it's travis kelsey for uber eats and travis kelsey for subway and
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oh by the travis else kelsey from auto and travis kelsey for it's like is there is it's i'm telling you
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that doesn't happen by mistake i'm supposed to believe that all these prescriptive commercials
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you're getting this backwards it's that taylor swift is fanatically insanely popular so she will
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be shoved into things it is not that wait wait wait so you're saying taylor swift so you're saying
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that taylor's everywhere so taylor swift needs travis kelsey no no no the whole thing is a fake
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up i'm i don't know what if all the commercials got to taylor swift or not i'm not i'm saying what
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i'm saying is i don't think taylor swift they like found taylor swift in a lab and said we're
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going to make taylor swift popular so that she can no one's saying that but it's the same way that
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dualipa girl and it's the same thing with jennifer lawrence and they find people that they can use
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for cultural type influence and taylor swift is perfect she's a liberal but she doesn't overplay
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it in recent years she sells she's the most popular no one doubts that she's popular of course normal
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of course she's popular and she also she's that demo that they want to dominate which is upper
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middle class white girl suburban america that's their pathway to world domination and she controls that demo
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of course we acknowledge she controls it i mean we don't you know live on neptune but this whole
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travis kelsey thing is so staged right jack i mean you watch an nfo football game i remember erica
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walks in she says what commercial is he not in i'm telling you he's on like experian he does the
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vaccine i kid you not i saw one nfl game and it was three in a row right i got the list you got the
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list i got the list it's this guy's not that good you're ready he's good but he's not that good
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you're not really good he's not that good he's not that good he's not that good he is probably the
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second most notable player on a team that has won like two superbowls in the last first of all
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without patrick mahomes he would be a very average tight end very average he'd be like he has patrick
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mahomes he's not gronkowski he's maybe the gronk was in a million ads too and he had tom brady
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hold on first of all gronk is the gronkowski is objectively funnier and more interesting than
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travis travis kelsey's a goon okay how many uh commercials do you have of him you ready for the
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list and by the way george kittle is way better who plays for the four nights accelerator active
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energy lows campbell's chunky soup this is not normal bud light of course nike of course pfizer
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of course direct tv tide old spice t-mobile sleep number hy-vee dick sporting goods okay counterpoint
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travis kelsey no subway travis kelsey has had seven straight thousand yard receiving seasons okay i'm not
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saying he's bad does it warrant this kind of cultural magnetism and by the way oh it does okay
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so you you go from now just come on like he's he is a he is like i said he is the second most high
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profile player on the best nfl team created it be okay you're trying to tell me that travis kelsey's
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more high profile than aaron rogers probably not but aaron rogers was also in a million ads hold on a
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second he also signed with caa which is like the death star also aaron rogers run by ezekiel
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a man more ads except aaron rogers is weird and hold on no aaron rogers goes into the woods to do
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i can name i can name five nfl players with more name id than travis kelsey but they created it it's
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he travis kelsey this is what i'm getting at and i know like he hates it when we go this deep because
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it's not a conspiracy it's totally a conspiracy travis kelsey is an op he's a he's an average
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football player who happens to have one of the greatest nfl quarterbacks ever and then you have
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taylor swift who's also an op who sells out audits and i'm supposed to believe that oh i love story i just
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happened to stumble into mr pfizer mr state farm just in time for the 2024 election i don't believe
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it mr pfizer just in time the pfizer thing is weird for the 2024 election it's a hundred percent let's
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bring this a hundred percent of 2024 get out the vote operation to go through middle america to press
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the maga vote try to win single women all under a pfizer's pharmaceutical regimes that we live in a
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dystopian hellscape all right all right charlie yeah but here here's the here's the point though
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maybe because he did the pfizer commercial i think that's what actually opened up him to dating
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taylor swift so taylor swift is like i'm only going to date people who show up in pfizer commercials
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but travis so he was limited to she was limited to first of all travis has been accused of being a
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man whore by a lot of other women so so that would make him more attractive to other women now we're
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talking yeah but he's more attractive to taylor he's vaxxed a lot of women i know that's he's he's
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quadruple vaccinated yeah they're not a pure blood jack do you agree this is all an op it's so fake
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it's so fake this is the fakest relationship since harry and megan it's like you see the two of them
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together there's no chemistry there's they actually have negative chemistry negative riz when you see
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the two of them together you're like you're like what is this i've seen faker relationships you know
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on like one of those one of those uh you know broadcast dating shows than i've ever seen on one
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of this this is ridiculous this is so horrible and what i'm telling you it's like oh we're going to be
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two celebrities we're just going to rule the roost together it's like we need we have they want to be
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the white beyonce and jay-z but at least beyonce and jay-z actually do have chemistry together when you
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see them together you can tell they're in like a real relationship these look like two people that are on
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benzodiazepam the entire time and like they have they've they've that like fluid smile that you see
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like so good to see you they do that weird like they do that weird thing right i don't quite have
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a name for it yet but it's it's very millennial and it's sort of an up it's kind of like up talk but
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it's like when you can tell that they're lying even though because it's under speak so they're speaking
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under their breath so good to see you it's really great that you came i'm glad that you're here
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okay it's it's it's this really weird intonation and it drives me completely nuts when people do it
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separately from vocal fry which also drives me nuts but for different reasons all right let blake
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i'm just wondering how much of this are you like i haven't actually seen much footage of travis kelsey
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and taylor swift together because i don't that's why it's follow this but i'm supposed to i'm mystified
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by i'm a little worried like is jack watching all these videos is jack is swifty i'm supposed to
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believe she he just organically out of love flew down to south america to be with taylor swift no no
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no it's an op somebody told him didn't he just publicly ask her out essentially the whole thing is
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very strange he goes to the concert he wishes that i'm telling you somebody at caa somebody at the
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creative arts agency said oh i i see it middle america maga country that likes their football
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their beer and they they have this you know childless dink and we're going to put them
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together and sink sorry creative arts agency which by the way is like the death star and we're going
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to combine it and it's going to be good for business good for pfizer good for all these things
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i want to play this uh here is taylor swift uh very upset uh about oh by the way uh eva
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vladen dinger brook is going after taylor swift good for her um play cut 87
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really is a big deal she votes against against fair pay for women she votes against the
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reauthorization of the of the violence against women act which is just basically protecting us
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for domestic abuse stalking stalking she votes she thinks that that if you're a gay couple or even if
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you look like a gay couple you should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant it's really basic
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human rights and it's right and wrong at this point and i can't see another commercial
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and see her disguising these policies behind the words tennessee christian values those aren't
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tennessee christian values i live in tennessee i am christian that's not what we stand for
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it's like you could see the cue cards next to the camera as she's reading off of this
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that's honestly some of the worst acting i've ever seen i have no idea you know if ca is going to sign
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her for anything you'd think they'd send her to like a couple of acting lessons first before they
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sign her up for something like this it's it's ridiculous i can understand why hollywood doesn't
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work with her she doesn't actually know how to read lines but we used to have this uh i had this
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theory called yellowstoning that i talked about you know for a while this idea that you know they
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would take somebody like a kevin costner like a show like yellowstone and then use that person
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and their you know their stature their weight their influence with a certain audience to move to
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mobilize them towards progressive ideals so they started slipping like these progressive ideas
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uh woke characters into the show yellowstone of course using kevin costner then they also used
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harrison ford for this in one of like the spinoffs there you started they did a sylvester stallone
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one so this is kind of like a similar psyop that's being run you know charlie to your point it's on
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middle america and so they're taking people who i would say have the aesthetics that would appeal to
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middle america but then shifting them nudging them into a you know into these liberal beliefs and
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that's what you see obviously taylor is very poorly doing so uh because she's beating you over a hammer
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with it in that scene there but again it's this is the exact same type of playbook that they've gone
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to again and again and again but because they have social media now they have the ability to create
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their own marketing empire through it i just i just can't get over that it's times person of the
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year they've given it to hitler they've given it to stalin they've given it to putin they've given
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it to every u.s president that i can think of trump they've given it trump yeah trump i mean you know
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it's not morally the best person it is like the most important person of the year who captures the
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themes of the year and you pick taylor swift because she's a big celebrity okay like even if
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her concert is the biggest concert to her ever even if she's the most successful singer entertainer ever
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even if she is forging new frontiers in that is that the biggest theme of 2023 so no it should be
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but then they say well who would you have chosen i think elon i'm not even close i think you've got
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to pick i think you'd either pick chat gpt you know half the time they do like a good oh the
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entity of the year i think ai would have been interesting ai you either that would have been
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interesting or sam altman if you need a person but you pick ai would have been legit like because
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that actually ai is changing our world yeah so by the way elon hello look at what i mean i think
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elon would have gotten it if he hadn't gotten it two years elon did find so what no you could you can
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get it more than once yeah you can see even bigger now than it was two years ago they haven't i don't think
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they've done a rerun other than a president getting reelected in ages no no taylor swift in 2017 they
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gave it to like all the the women of me too and taylor swift was one of them so she's a man i guess
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the co-woman of the year and in 2006 they gave it to everyone so i guess she had it three times then
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didn't they really yeah they said you were the person of the year because youtube took off in 2006
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yeah no ai would have been interesting that would have been actually legit if not ai i think you could
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also say like jack smith or the process no well but no think about it like the big theme of this
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election is this is the year where they're it has using every extra judicial you could deserve it
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next year if they successfully you're throwing it too far ahead yeah it has to be a little bit of
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what the year was defined as who but elon has defined this year right anyway i we could we could
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debate it but last year was zelensky right that's why we're wearing our zelensky shirts right jack
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and by again i just want to be andrew by the way i think i've converted andrew
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the best evidence that this is an op is travis kelsey signed with caa in may i have to dash for
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just a second here but jack can you tell our audience what caa is it's run by ezekiel emanuel
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right um or ari emanuel one of those emanuel brothers there's ram emanuel ezekiel emanuel and
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ari emanuel they're like the they're the death star and see i think i think it's ari emanuel if i'm not
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mistaken by the way caa has this huge headquarters in la it's very creepy in century city and they
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represent all the a-list celebrities all the a-list celebrities in fact jordan peterson was once
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represented by them they dropped them and makes you think you can go to caa.com well the they are the
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death star man yeah the main knock on caa is that they were basically and essentially harvey
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weinstein's talent agency um and so this was the one that took weinstein and made him sort of this
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this household figure that put him behind and it is yeah zari emanuel and went through um you know all
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of his films and then all of the actresses that he worked with by and large were okay not every single
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actress or actor that he worked with was through caa but this was his preferred agency and everybody
00:22:51.480
sort of knew this um basically that um if you made a negative comment about harvey weinstein they were
00:22:59.340
also they're also kind of harvey weinstein's enforcement arm when he was basically a sheriff
00:23:03.260
of hollywood where if you made a negative comment publicly or privately about harvey or about anyone who
00:23:10.640
was part of caa you were done they just blacklisted you you were completely out if you did anything
00:23:17.500
on you know and this is prior to the me too movement and so it's interesting by the way that
00:23:24.260
caa comes up again because as we said before so there's there's this confluence between harvey
00:23:31.920
weinstein caa taylor swift travis kelsey so all of a sudden who's in the driver's seat again
00:23:40.320
it's still hollywood they got rid of harvey but that doesn't mean that they got rid of the system
00:23:45.080
that put harvey in place now there's just a new person who's the boss of the entire system and yeah
00:23:51.340
this is the major one um when you're you know when you're talking about your a-list celebs you're you
00:23:56.460
know the people who basically when you read all those magazines those tabloid magazines about
00:24:00.300
celebrity relationships and this couple was seen here on the yacht and this thing went on
00:24:04.060
that's all part of what the agents are putting together what they want to put out and yes
00:24:09.940
there's lots of you know really scummy agencies out there there's independent agents out there of
00:24:14.060
course everybody's heard these terrible stories uh the casting couch etc etc but caa is the big dog
00:24:20.020
the top of the heap for every single one of them it just i struggle to i guess i could see if anyone's
00:24:28.780
going to have all of her personal relationships be an op i guess it could be taylor swift she's a
00:24:34.500
mastermind of publicity which the i guess the fact that we've talked about her endlessly for the past
00:24:40.340
six months is proof enough of that but i don't know i think it's deranged when it's like okay so
00:24:46.860
these you know we're gonna go sign travis kelsey to a new agency because we're anticipating that trump
00:24:52.660
will be the nominee next year and then we need to have taylor swift be really popular so that she can
00:24:58.940
tell people to not vote for donald trump who by the way we're also going to knock off the ballot through
00:25:03.480
all these other mechanisms it's just i think we are overestimating the ability for things to be
00:25:09.220
centrally planned by by anybody to be honest i think if you want to say her relationship's fake i
00:25:15.300
could buy that celebrities have fake relationships all the time and but the point is is she just
00:25:21.560
shouldn't be person of the year because that's weird and strange and deranged but we have another
00:25:26.120
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for a christmas gift uh well really more if it's like a baby shower kind of thing i would say
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okay okay that makes a lot more sense yeah i'm just imagining like you run down it's like a christmas
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story and you know instead of the little red rider bd bb gun he opens it and there's just a bunch
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of diapers in it no honestly though like like parents you know maybe like grandparents to
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parents that kind of thing all right all right all right speaking of children speaking of christmas
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speaking of things that not everyone does when we when we had our kids we got a lot of diapers from
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people because i believe it i believe it but you know people who are not going to have diapers is
00:27:45.060
topic number two uh we have to have a conversation about the dink question can i just say can i just say
00:27:51.400
that that blake that was a fantastic transition that was really i do my best i am learning i'm
00:27:56.480
learning so the dink question uh dinks uh dinks the donks the dunks it's the dinks dual income
00:28:04.160
no kids uh they've existed forever but now they're going viral because we have the national affliction
00:28:10.540
known as tiktok and they are making tiktoks about it so we have to show some of those tiktoks i believe
00:28:16.380
the first one we have here uh is number 79 so let's uh get the conversation going with that
00:28:21.440
why is nobody talking about being dinks well i'm freshly married and i'm going to talk about it
00:28:26.440
here's our life as dinks in our early 30s no shocker here folks today we went to costco we don't have
00:28:30.700
kids to feed but we got lots of money to spend on goodies brian always checks out well i get a box and
00:28:34.940
then i sit here and look cute here's the hall and our total was 252 the registered game at costco
00:28:39.480
never gets old you cannot tell me that grocery shopping and a fresh slice of costco pizza
00:28:43.520
isn't a good date night i mean you can tell me that but i don't believe it obviously we had
00:28:47.740
car cookies for dessert and yeah i will probably just make this a series now so follow along for
00:28:51.480
more dink content that woman doesn't have a good diet but before we get into the conversation we
00:28:55.980
have this is again way too many people are making these so uh we also have number 80 let's play that
00:29:01.480
we're dinks we go to trader joe's and workout classes on the weekends we're dinks we get into
00:29:06.480
snobby hobbies like skiing and golfing we're dinks we can go to florida on a whim we're dinks we're
00:29:11.480
already planning our european vacation next year dinks we get a full eight hours of sleep and
00:29:15.700
sometimes more we're dinks we get desserts and appetizers at restaurants we're dinks we can play
00:29:20.360
with other kids and give them back we're dinks we still do it three times a week we're dinks we
00:29:25.920
spend our discretionary income on eight dollar latte we're dinks we max out our 401ks roth iras and
00:29:31.900
hsas we're dinks we don't use our kids or dog as an excuse to leave a party we just leave
00:29:37.120
i mean three times a week that's that's actually not really that like
00:29:45.040
like you hey at least i just i'm just gonna throw this out there you can have kids and still have
00:29:50.460
sex i'm just gonna just gonna throw it out there folks in fact that's how you get the kids in the
00:29:53.580
first place allegedly well i mean at least it's the half step where they're they're promoting at
00:30:01.620
least their relationships so yeah at least we could celebrate that that there is and you know
00:30:06.300
you know three times a week there's like a decent odds they'll screw up at some point but yeah yeah i
00:30:11.820
think the craziest thing that i've noticed since you know being a millennial and jack we're kind of in
00:30:17.740
that same like age category we're just right there which is like all our friends there's a lot of people
00:30:23.620
who have literally positioned themselves for i think i think the problem is they position themselves
00:30:30.520
for over a decade that they're just not going to have kids no matter what and so now like the natural
00:30:36.140
progression is that people are getting married now later on and that's fine like i again i'm not being
00:30:41.600
judgy i'm like who has kids who doesn't when they get married whatever like i think earlier the better
00:30:47.480
great whatever but they're getting married later on in life and so now this is like the half step
00:30:52.560
before they have kids and my only fear is that by the time they realize they actually want to have
00:30:57.720
kids it'll be too late because they just like drug out their their life for way too long yeah so this
00:31:03.500
yeah so this ties into the taylor swift thing because this has been a knock on taylor swift for
00:31:09.300
years at this point um there used to be this whole meme you know this could all kind of be like a sort of
00:31:14.480
deep web reveal uh blake do you remember this one the empty egg carton meme far too well far too well
00:31:21.040
last egg yes exactly so this was the idea that and um there was a a certain um youtuber former
00:31:29.920
youtuber i guess who got in trouble for uh it was devon molyneux and who posted um you know these
00:31:36.980
who just basically went on a tirade on twitter and was like look you know taylor swift is in her prime
00:31:42.760
years for for child rearing for and she's spending all of this time going around focused on her career
00:31:50.080
talks about wanting a family talks about wanting a relationship every single song is about having a
00:31:53.880
relationship and yet there's no actual time that she invests into it she just invests all her time
00:32:01.580
into her career and essentially herself and so the empty egg cart this is like years ago this is like
00:32:07.080
five or six years ago that this was going on so even then um you know even then i guess she would
00:32:12.300
been her like kind of mid-20s what's she like she's like how old is she guys she's like 31
00:32:16.960
33 33 i think maybe 34 she was born in 89 89 right right right right yeah so turn 34 this year yeah
00:32:25.080
so she'll be so she'll be 34 wow she is 34 okay i think she's maybe already 34 no she's 34 next week
00:32:32.100
look at that next week happy birthday well like to that point though like i think i think the horrifying
00:32:37.780
thing is and again that's the important piece that you just you just hit on which is that it's not
00:32:42.880
it's it's not whether or not you are married it's not whether or not you have kids it's about the
00:32:49.040
desire and putting yourself in the right place to do those things because there's i think the the world
00:32:53.600
that we live in today with social media and everything else is like it's it's ch it's actually
00:32:58.100
more challenging i think arguably than it ever has been to have a normal relationship it's more
00:33:04.900
challenging than it's ever been to have uh like you can't there's no privacy to like raise your kids
00:33:11.120
the same way there just says you can make the argument you could you could go live in a hole
00:33:15.740
somewhere but like if you're not on normal social media and things like that you're a weirdo
00:33:19.140
in the eyes of like regular suburban america so like you have to be in the spotlight in some way
00:33:25.220
shape or form more than what you are normally what the normal human being the 80s or 90s was
00:33:29.740
comfortable with and so now you have this issue of i i think this is is that people are skittish
00:33:37.240
it's like stage fright they they're stage fright to that and i don't blame men for having stage
00:33:41.780
fright to that most of my friends like i talk to and i'm not even like it's like jack or charlie here
00:33:47.580
but like like you and i have similar things where people kind of become aware of you through different
00:33:53.360
things people are like i i want nothing to do with that because i couldn't have i wouldn't be down
00:33:58.340
with the introspection into my life from like the general public i wouldn't like that and i and i
00:34:04.160
think there's an element of that just with social media in general people where guys feel like that
00:34:08.180
women feel like that and so they act differently and so they add stage fright so delays that's adding
00:34:13.320
to the delaying factor and now you've got into your mind that you've adopted that like hey i'm not
00:34:17.420
gonna have kids for 10 years i'm not gonna have kids for 20 years and then you finally do have
00:34:21.780
a relationship and you're like i'm sorry i'm not gonna get married for 10 years i'm not gonna get
00:34:27.240
married for x amount of years and then you finally get in a relationship and then you're that's like
00:34:31.180
the justification that like that dink video that that video that you guys just posted to me it just
00:34:35.980
like screams like justifying the reason why they're not having kids rather than putting yourself in the
00:34:42.000
position like jack is saying that like you want to have kids like you want to try against because
00:34:45.800
the sad part is on the other side of the coin to that there's so many people in this world that
00:34:50.740
want to have kids that either can't get in a fortuitous relationship they can't have kids
00:34:55.520
physically for whatever reason because of health issues or whatever and like that to me is sad and
00:35:00.840
going into that the you know these people might want kids later eventually uh but you know for a
00:35:07.880
society obsessed with misinformation and disinformation one of the biggest sources of
00:35:11.880
misinformation out there is actually just about basic fertility yeah it's really it's a lot harder
00:35:19.260
it's a lot harder to have your first kid if you start trying only after 30 totally uh it's even
00:35:25.540
things that things that aren't well known if you have already had a kid it's way easier to have a
00:35:30.200
second kid even if it's later so if you're having your fourth kid at 35 way easier than if you're having
00:35:35.720
your first kid at 35 your body detects these things it sort of detects up this person it's not taking
00:35:42.380
it's not going to happen and you know it shifts i don't know what do you want to say resources
00:35:46.940
elsewhere and makes it way harder and so that's how you have all these people who you know they wait
00:35:52.880
for the perfect moment and then at the perfect moment it turns out you have to spend
00:35:56.060
seventy thousand dollars on fertility treatments or they're just sad the rest of their life or
00:36:00.500
they're sad and it's really sad i've had i had some friends who had who did thankfully have a
00:36:05.340
kid but they had issues for a long time and so they fell down the rabbit hole that is the
00:36:09.520
uh infertility community on the internet because everything has a community these days
00:36:13.920
and it is really bad it is it is very clear for a lot of people that not having kids not being able
00:36:20.500
to have kids ruins their lives yep it ruins their relationship with their parents it ruins their
00:36:25.360
relationship with their spouse even if it's not because of a choice even if it's only due to a
00:36:30.280
biological thing it just totally destroys people um i guess the other interesting flip side of it is
00:36:37.680
this is we are living through the first era where really not having kids is a choice you can just
00:36:43.100
easily make you know so you'd only have uh reliable birth control from about the 60s on and i think you
00:36:50.000
have a hangover of a few decades where it's still so abnormal to not have kids if you marry that it's
00:36:55.500
still just everyone does it well that's the interesting part it's like we're in the era again
00:36:59.820
and people talk i equate this all the time we were talking a little bit about this with rome and
00:37:03.100
everything else is we're in the era of lifestyle choices right where lifestyle choices are so simple
00:37:09.560
and so easy because we live in such a society that lifestyle choices are easy and these are problems
00:37:15.880
that are created that are generated because society is so simple and it's interesting because you know
00:37:23.240
the forces of natural selection being what they are we are now going through a selection process of
00:37:28.500
the only people having kids are the ones who choose to have kids and like having kids so it's
00:37:33.000
kind of good news i guess in 50 years being parent being a parent will be better because everyone will
00:37:37.120
have selected for how's that i love having kids how's that worked out in europe though well you know
00:37:42.040
it's interesting thing about not even just europe south korea south korea their fertility rate is down
00:37:46.600
to 0.7 so the average woman will have 0.7 kids that means in two generations 100 people gets down to
00:37:53.280
about 12 people yeah and it's going to be really interesting if that pattern holds a long time
00:37:59.180
because your population is going to get massively shifted by what are the choices and life patterns
00:38:05.120
of people who actually decide to show up for the future so that's who the future goes to who shows up
00:38:10.260
for it yeah yeah and and so this is this is a huge thing but but also when you really think about it
00:38:15.960
you know i would the type of demographic that you know going back to the taylor swift
00:38:21.360
set up you know it's and i'm just gonna say it since we're here on thought crime um you guys
00:38:27.080
played all those videos we talked about taylor swift being a huge a huge part of this that was
00:38:31.560
my contention earlier this week on on twitter i took a lot of crap for it but i said you know prove
00:38:37.040
me wrong prove me wrong that taylor swift is not promoting a double income no kids lifestyle even
00:38:42.040
though she's not married they said and then swifties were like coming at me claiming oh it's not her
00:38:46.440
fault it's it's you know the fault of all these men and all this yeah okay all right i got it
00:38:50.940
um and so the you know i guess the the big thing that i would take away is is and and blake to your
00:38:59.280
to your point as well like have you noticed that all of the viral videos on the dink thing they're
00:39:04.660
all white yes you notice that i haven't seen any of these promoted or at least you know i'm sure there
00:39:12.300
are dinks that are not but did the ones that seem to be getting promoted the most algorithmically are
00:39:18.060
white funny how that works well bluntly i think they are the ones who often choose this like i
00:39:23.080
mean the gay community is all dinks right yeah the gay community is all dinks they're very white
00:39:26.860
that's not true that's not true that is not true there's a lot of gay adoption there's a decent
00:39:32.520
amount not statistically and like you know and for like it's like it's like tiny and like and and
00:39:39.500
just in terms of deliberate childlessness it does frankly seem to be a very you know upper class
00:39:47.400
white people phenomenon asians too i suppose but upper class asians are just sort of considered
00:39:52.360
white well so the first time i ever heard of this was in china um like 10 15 years ago the first time
00:40:00.020
i ever heard of dink um this was the all the rage in china when i lived there that they were saying oh
00:40:05.660
yeah double income no kids this was the thing double income no kids and then they were even and keep
00:40:09.660
in mind china obviously is a country that at the time was promoting pop like population d growth
00:40:16.080
population um uh or depopulation agenda i guess so the one child policy and then even in china the
00:40:23.020
idea too was for tax purposes and for career and income they were so hyper focused on this so like
00:40:29.540
there's this sort of you know kind of old school conservative belief that china is like this hyper
00:40:34.520
marxist society but no it's actually kind of the opposite like they are intensely career focused and
00:40:39.160
intensely um competitive in terms of career and ranking and uh income in china you know they're
00:40:47.160
almost more hyper capitalist than we are in certain ways uh certainly not you know democratically and
00:40:52.340
you know they don't have any of that going on but in terms of economy um yeah yeah they really are
00:40:58.580
and so they had this this total normalization of people being married and then living in countries
00:41:04.160
or cities all over the country so you wouldn't even see your wife or your spouse unless you were
00:41:09.020
basically going home for golden week which is like their holidays so like you'd see your wife
00:41:12.840
on the holidays and then that was it so there wouldn't even be an opportunity to have kids and so they
00:41:18.900
would even take it to the next step and say okay we're married we are double income for tax purposes
00:41:23.900
but we don't even have like a a real normal relationship in any meaningful way because it's all long
00:41:30.680
distance and this is was promoted in china i think it's really interesting um it just reminded me
00:41:37.420
of this is that uh stalin since we evoke stalin's name here stalin actually taxed people for not having
00:41:46.340
kids so they instituted i think you could justify that and i think it'll be interesting if we start
00:41:52.260
seeing serious population decline we're all kind of wusses about it like all these western countries we do
00:41:58.500
a child tax credit and it's worth a few thousand dollars a year but yeah what if you just literally
00:42:03.620
had like a single tax well i mean but this is the point like marx is true marxists don't want you to
00:42:09.600
be career driven right true marxists that want to control uh you know everything that they have you have to
00:42:17.880
have bodies you have to have people you want families you want growth you want them to be busy
00:42:24.000
not wanting to do extra stuff like i mean you heard in that dink thing guys like they're like we can
00:42:29.420
travel we can do whatever we want like that's not what that's not what the communists want commies
00:42:34.320
want you to be busy and so you work all day and then you come home and you and you you have to take
00:42:40.580
care of your kids too and that's part of i think that that's part of like there's like two sides to it so
00:42:47.080
there's no there's no evading you know reproduction like in the grand scheme of like the world there's
00:42:54.160
no evading children like there's just not you're not going to get away from it uh it's you're going
00:43:00.300
to be forced into it society's going to force you into it the question is like how does society raise
00:43:06.440
children and you know i think and again this goes back to again the traditional way is like single
00:43:13.440
income you know dual roles rather than dual income single roles is a much better way and we
00:43:20.700
now are living in a society where it's dual income single role rather than single income dual roles
00:43:27.120
within a household because this is ultimately it ultimately breaks up families because again when
00:43:32.180
you live your own life you have your own your own separation i mean this is kind of the the
00:43:37.300
conversation i think tucker talks about all the time or he used to talk about quite quite a bit but
00:43:41.380
you know going back to the start just oh i actually sorry you go jack you go i wonder what
00:43:49.820
yeah i want to follow up on a little bit what tyler said there because tyler this is something that does
00:43:53.420
play politically for you know the new right this is a huge new right uh piece of the agenda and i
00:43:59.700
wonder and you and i obviously have talked about this many times but if you want to give people an
00:44:03.760
encapsulation you know you've talked about it before about how there's a huge opportunity here
00:44:09.200
politically you know to focus on these millennials who want to go back to the single income household
00:44:17.740
and then have a family that can be raised on a single household and then creating the economic
00:44:22.320
conditions to make this possible jd vance talks about this and others you know what do you see as a
00:44:27.620
potential um political uh win for if conservatives were to start adopting this language
00:44:32.920
yeah i mean i i think that the future of what we're going to see is that i mean i i don't think
00:44:42.160
there's any turning the ship around i think the gen the attack on gender identity is the satanic
00:44:50.780
explicitness on an attack on the family and specifically wanting to promote more childlessness
00:44:58.180
uh that's i i think that's ultimately where you're at because if you talk about this we talk
00:45:03.820
and i was kind of just joking but the greatest dink culture that exists within america is in the gay
00:45:08.920
community right like there's just not that is that is the culture and in fact everybody has a gay
00:45:14.700
friend and every every man has a wife that a lot of us on the show have gay enemies too okay okay
00:45:22.940
we all have gay enemies too but we all have lots of we have gay friends our wives certainly have gay
00:45:28.900
friends and they look at their gay friends and i've seen this and actually i haven't liked your
00:45:32.400
friend i have an example of this gonna kill you jack i have an example of this a a the fbi won't
00:45:39.120
investigate i i have a friend this is a crazy story i won't get into the details but i have a friend
00:45:43.900
who was married newly married and they were in a gay neighborhood in a big city neighborhood
00:45:51.680
they're not gay they're a man and woman married sure and i'm sure he tells her that a lot and they
00:45:58.160
were thinking about having kids right and they were thinking about that but the wife like had all
00:46:04.680
these gay friends and loved the dink culture that was within that was within the gay community not the
00:46:11.120
gay culture the dink culture which was like they could go out and do whatever they wanted to do
00:46:15.460
all the time brunch every week and her values changed overnight by who she hung out with
00:46:21.640
because she was in that culture of like i can brunch whenever i want i can mimosa every day
00:46:26.160
like why would i want to have kids like i'm going to keep delaying and delaying ultimately
00:46:29.700
like she adopted into that culture and they divorced very quickly very rapidly but i mean i think it's
00:46:37.800
like a it's like a real thing so uh because he should have been person of the year as charlie says
00:46:42.560
uh or at least second place uh we every time elon musk has an opinion it becomes a story so elon musk
00:46:49.140
reacted to this stuff uh earlier today he uh if you guys want to bring it up on screen uh elon musk
00:46:55.100
hits out at viral videos of dink couples saying there is an awful morality to those who choose
00:47:00.760
not to have children and i was arguing about this with charlie earlier because there's a few levels to
00:47:05.660
this like one elon musk himself is like a step warlord where he's got 10 kids officially with i think
00:47:14.460
four different women and that we know that we know of and i've heard rumors he might have
00:47:19.860
like 40 because there are and you know the amber heard one right i'm not familiar with that specific
00:47:25.520
one um oh i remember publicly revealed the um the father of her daughter and we know that elon and
00:47:34.800
her now she claims it was just a sperm donor however people know that she was with elon
00:47:40.740
briefly um this was so okay everybody knows that she was with uh johnny depp of course very public
00:47:46.940
but briefly after that relationship she spent some time with elon musk when they were together
00:47:53.380
then a couple months after that relationship she just kind of shows up with this with this daughter
00:47:58.940
and says oh i have this and i even heard rumors to that effect like the sperm donor thing i've i've
00:48:03.140
heard rumors that must just straight up will just yeah be a donor for people he is just a progeny
00:48:08.580
maximizer he is not it's not the carnal aspect that is most important here yeah this is very um you
00:48:15.820
know i mean obviously we know that he is someone who's very supportive of surrogacy he's done this
00:48:21.180
he had um uh twins right with uh with you know one of the executives at neural link recently uh we know
00:48:28.960
that i believe at least one if not both of the children that he had with uh grimes were via surrogacy
00:48:36.320
and so uh yeah this is this is clearly something and then i believe his first i believe his first
00:48:42.060
wife that he's five boys or five children with i don't i forget if they're all boys or not what that
00:48:46.380
was ivf so he's you know this you know we were talking about the infertility um community but you
00:48:51.680
know just in the fertility i guess the the vast spectrum of fertility uh procedures out there elon is
00:48:57.700
certainly a huge huge proponent yeah think about it though if you're if you're a genius you have
00:49:02.440
limitless amounts of money like you would just like it's interesting more don't do this yeah you
00:49:08.080
would just like it's like it's like uh parents of athletes you know that that are like that want
00:49:14.340
to have as many kids are are pro athletes that want to have as many kids as they possibly can
00:49:18.240
to make sure one of their kids becomes a pro athlete have you have you heard about this
00:49:22.140
like there's a lot of like when i was growing up brown family uncle my aunt and uncle used to have a
00:49:28.360
um like a horse farm in pennsylvania and so whenever you had one of your champion horses you know yeah
00:49:33.720
you you would you would you turn into a stud after it was done it's racing and so you would
00:49:37.560
you would basically sell the sperm uh to the other breeders out there hoping that you would get a
00:49:43.040
champion i mean this was huge money but can i can i say something that's a little bit thought crummy
00:49:47.880
this is like what pro athletes do so there's an argument that like pro athletes hook up with all
00:49:52.740
these girls and have all these kids because there's an element here where it's like oh it's
00:49:58.920
worth your money because the more kids you have the more likely that you'll end up with another pro
00:50:03.060
athlete that comes out of your dna bank like this is the same thing like if i'm elon musk of course
00:50:09.140
like just give everybody my sperm anyone that wants to take it there's like a thousand future elons if
00:50:16.980
you think you're a genius and that you're going to inject all these genius dna pools back out into
00:50:23.600
the world this could get really insane once like we could have just straight what if we have an
00:50:27.640
artificial womb you don't even need another woman at this he probably does what if we what if we get
00:50:31.760
to that point where you can just have an artificial womb you could just have a rich guy even if he just
00:50:36.780
wants it with one woman he could just have a hundred kids no this is what this is what uh james
00:50:42.120
younger was saying yeah we can get some wild stuff was that his name james younger yeah james younger
00:50:47.460
was was got into it with libby emmons over this recently because he was saying that and keep in
00:50:52.520
mind james this is a guy who obviously went through uh a lot he went through that this was the guy who
00:50:57.020
had the divorce uh down in texas and then she then she moved with the kid to california and they were
00:51:02.840
going to try to do some kind of um hormone therapy you know transgender sort of thing with the kid
00:51:08.380
you know i'm probably botching the details but anyway it got to the point where he was so upset
00:51:12.460
about everything that he went through that he and libby emmons got on tim cast together and he said
00:51:17.020
look men shouldn't even you know now that we have surrogacy why are men even pursuing relationships
00:51:21.440
as women at all you should just uh you should just go ahead and use surrogacy have kids bring them in
00:51:26.660
and cut the woman out completely which i personally disagree with
00:51:31.400
one variety yeah we're talking about ivf oh well we're talking about the dink uh well actually
00:51:38.740
funny i've spiraled into sorry i had to hey so we were talking about how we're talking about how
00:51:45.140
elon had has uh basically so we started with with dink and then we got to elon who's like the opposite
00:51:51.320
of that we didn't use that term not just we used the term herons because it's not just harems it's that
00:51:55.700
he's like he's like all of the all of the above in terms of like you know the way you know yeah
00:52:01.660
i'll be honest i think elon yeah the point i was going to throw out though is like this is this is
00:52:06.900
something that plato kind of talks about in the republic where he says that you know marriage if
00:52:11.480
you know for the for the highest cast the the guardian cat class um you know there's only you
00:52:16.640
know your your your spouse will only be for like the duration of the sexual intercourse there will be
00:52:22.640
a ceremony the best women will be chosen for the best men and it um you know it seems like you know
00:52:27.780
i mean so actually put that elon is trending and if i ever meet him i'll tell him this he's trending
00:52:32.160
for the story of solomon who has everything and he ends up totally insane and he also i mean one of
00:52:38.960
the most powerful books of the whole bible is ecclesiastes where he basically opens like a punk
00:52:43.840
rocker where the first verse of ecclesiastes is meaningless meaningless meaningless oh his life
00:52:48.720
and solomon's splendor was so great that christ our lord then repeats in the new testament he says
00:52:54.220
not even solomon and all of his splendor would be clothed like you will in the next life and i mean
00:52:59.460
elon's like solomon like he's got like 90 like what we know how many women has he had didn't he have
00:53:03.420
like 900 or something solomon or elon oh oh elon i think elon has like what 140 children or something
00:53:09.200
uh so he publicly has 10 there's rumors he has dozens no i've heard at least i've heard over 100 i've
00:53:15.400
heard over 100 i suspect the legend will grow with time until eventually every child in america's
00:53:19.760
yeah look let me be clear if you're worth 250 billion dollars that there's there's worse things
00:53:24.640
to spend money on than populating the species with geniuses okay so but it doesn't make your life
00:53:30.100
doesn't nick cannon have like a done a dozen kids there's like a russian billionaire who just
00:53:35.380
used surrogates to have yeah but what athlete has the best kids in america what athlete probably
00:53:39.620
antonio rogers did it didn't didn't magic johnson like 100 kids didn't magic johnson had a lot of
00:53:46.840
things i know but that's how he ended up where he ended up because he had like no he had i'm saying
00:53:52.940
that but he was just like everywhere everywhere everywhere but he had lots of kids too and then
00:53:59.200
we have uh magic johnson was athlete with most kids in america i'm looking here calvin murphy
00:54:06.100
had 14 children with nine women who's calvin murphy i don't know i just i came up on this
00:54:12.080
stupid like how stuff works it has seven wide receiver no but solomon is a perfect example for
00:54:18.740
where elon is going keep in mind philip rivers i think is up to 11 or 12 is that right with one
00:54:24.360
wife oh come on one woman really yes nick cannon has 12 philip philip rivers is a legend so he didn't
00:54:30.520
he didn't go to the song he was a great he was one of the most underrated nfl quarterbacks in history
00:54:33.900
yeah and he's he's like a super catholic he married his middle school sweetheart
00:54:36.960
in college and they've just yeah tiffany rivers wow good for him yeah drew breeze has 90 kids or
00:54:45.940
something right that's a lot as many as philip rivers philip rivers is the legend evander holyfield
00:54:50.740
11 kids oh wow that's quite a few didn't george foreman also like name all of his sons george foreman
00:54:59.780
but this isn't this isn't like a there's athletes out there that probably have dozens of kids yeah
00:55:07.220
like it was like george foreman this because he did junior and then the third and then the fourth
00:55:11.660
but they were all his son has 12 children five sons and seven daughters and his five sons are george
00:55:17.120
jr george the third george the fourth george the fifth and george the sixth nicknamed monk big wheel
00:55:23.620
red and little joey i love this the first one of course is junior so he says i named all my sons
00:55:32.680
george edward foreman so they would always have something in common the bigger question is how
00:55:38.520
many i mean if you stack rank them with all the abortions involved that would be a lot making me
00:55:46.120
sad man i don't want to think about that well but that's the dean culture dean culture is abortion
00:55:51.600
culture they say the question is is being a dink immoral yes being a dink intentionally not having
00:55:56.920
avoiding having children whether through adoption i understand baron i totally understand baron like
00:56:02.540
that's a terrible thing i wouldn't wish that or even just having struggles getting a relationship
00:56:06.120
no i totally understand people can't get a relationship that's what's so sick about the
00:56:09.000
dink thing you have a partner and you're you're you're not you're saying no i don't want to do the
00:56:14.340
hard thing the necessary thing i think that's really sick i really do dean culture is abortion
00:56:18.900
it is certainly that's exactly decayed value it's the same value system which is that less children
00:56:24.520
is more evil and it's more selfish it's more self-serving i mean that's the it's the opposite
00:56:30.340
of why we're placed on this earth somebody on our somebody emailed our show charlie you know
00:56:33.940
leave the dink people alone no no no they don't want to be left alone that's why they're on social
00:56:38.200
media so don't give me that they go on so like they go on social bragging about going on tiktok
00:56:43.460
make your super tiktok and then leave me alone i want attention wait why am i getting attention
00:56:48.480
hold on a second you guys went on social media talking about how great it is and you don't
00:56:52.380
like to defend yourself and you're like we're being doxxed how are you being doxxed if you go
00:56:57.120
on tiktok talking about going to costco and oh it only costs 250 there's more to life than money
00:57:02.640
there's more to life than resources having kids is the greatest thing ever it's the greatest thing ever
00:57:07.740
but when you if you're gonna say it's immoral you can't just say it's great to have kids you have to
00:57:11.920
say you it is necessary to have kids it is your responsibility but look some people have kids and
00:57:17.780
it's very tough they might have sicknesses they might be errant and all that but it is the moral
00:57:22.460
obligation to continue the species and by the way if you can't do that then adopt kids do something
00:57:27.360
to continue the species you have to steward the next generation you you have to yeah it's there's
00:57:33.920
no excuse not to the first video we showed a picture of like a family reunion and you just see
00:57:38.800
there's always like sort of the the patriarch and the matriarch right you know there's always like
00:57:42.480
the grandpa the grandma and usually the grandma i'm sitting at the center and everyone's can think
00:57:47.260
of one of these photos and then you just see the children that came from her the grandchildren
00:57:52.700
and you know god willing there's great grandchildren running around and you look at all that life
00:57:59.840
that came from one person and nobody is sitting there going looking at that grandmother saying
00:58:06.340
gee i wonder what her career was i wonder what her position was at the office i want to know if she
00:58:12.180
had a corner desk no she's surrounded by her accomplishments right there hot off the presses
00:58:18.380
this is the total opposite of the dink culture or anything that taylor swift is promoting hot off
00:58:24.360
the presses tweeted within the last two minutes uh cernovich on twitter i was gonna make this point but
00:58:28.500
he just did it better than i would anyway we're dinks we're renting bicycles to travel through africa
00:58:33.380
during our vacation everyone would think that's cool but being some fat snack eater with a pencil
00:58:38.540
goatee buying chips in bulk at costco while watching games all weekend is gross so that's that's part of
00:58:44.420
it like yeah if you're gonna do a dink and do something really cool it's probably still bad but
00:58:49.160
it at least you know people would feel a little envious but like i'm a dink i get to go to costco and
00:58:55.180
stuff my fat face with the costco pizza and by the way nothing in any of these videos makes me
00:59:00.380
envy like it just it's sad i watch these videos right it's just it's sick it really is i think
00:59:07.600
they're like gay married i mean and i by the way we know what's so sick about it is that the amount
00:59:12.100
of emails i get of people with regret i can't have kids i wish i would that i totally understand i
00:59:18.440
totally get that or i should have prioritized it earlier this is a this is an idea pathogen i think
00:59:23.940
it's a major cope you know what it reminds me of shout your abortion dink culture is very similar
00:59:28.580
to shouting no abortion very similar people one of the bad things with social media is it's created
00:59:37.120
a much larger platform for the already bad pattern of essentially very loudly justifying your decisions
00:59:44.460
to the world and essentially you know you don't they're not having children so what they need to
00:59:50.780
do is they need to have ideological children by convincing other people to do the same things as
00:59:55.160
them yes well i mean and this is the other thing that i think bothers me the most i actually hate
01:00:00.960
i loathe when people post their personal information on i think it's so embarrassing when people are like
01:00:07.820
go to social media and they talk about their personal relationships i just i just hate that i think
01:00:12.700
you know post on social media whatever i think the the name of the game should be post as little as
01:00:17.640
you possibly can while still being like normally socially acceptable to society i i think that's the that's
01:00:24.200
the the vector that's just me i hate when my friends and people that i know that i actually care
01:00:29.560
or or once upon a time cared about go and they they talk about all their problems too much they talk
01:00:35.000
about their personal relationships and to me like this is the same thing whether it's good or bad like
01:00:40.960
it's always embarrassing when people are like oh yeah we're we're so happy we're not having kids and
01:00:45.740
then like a month later they're broken up and it's like well was that part of it was that and then that
01:00:50.540
starts messing with other people's heads too maybe in a good way maybe in a bad way but like
01:00:54.580
i think a lot of people they end up there again because they see on social media they see their
01:00:58.940
friends they never used to see you never used to see your friends internal personal relationships
01:01:03.980
they live down the street you never talk to them when's the last time you talked to your neighbor
01:01:07.200
when's the last time you talked to one of your friends from high school you just don't you didn't
01:01:11.300
now on social media you see all this stuff and you see your friend from high school
01:01:14.940
he's like oh he didn't decide to have kids you know i had four bing bing bing right out of high
01:01:20.540
school and in your head you're miserable bam leads to divorce bam leads to so you know finding a
01:01:27.220
different relationship bam leads to not rearing for your children the same way that you you would
01:01:31.660
have not being aware of what other people were doing i just think it's so unhealthy yeah tyler i
01:01:37.020
think is exactly right on this i i think it's a huge driver in uh depression and suicide
01:01:43.260
especially teen suicide so it used to be that and scott adams talks about this in his podcast as well
01:01:48.020
that it used to be that you're sort of the pool of people that you compared yourself to
01:01:52.020
was your town was your hometown was your workplace was your school was your site your work site what
01:01:57.540
whatever it was yeah your family or your intermediate family the people you interacted with on a regular
01:02:01.560
basis and that's how for all of human civilization uh we have essentially uh grown and developed
01:02:09.180
however now through social media you sort of are bombarded with this highlight reel and people said
01:02:15.900
this even even aaron rogers once said this that um social media is like the highlights reel of life
01:02:20.880
and it is in many ways but at the same time you're also constantly comparing yourself to other people
01:02:26.800
that you see that are so it leads to and the people talked about this i think we talked about here
01:02:32.780
on the show once where on dating apps now um it is so hard for if you're like a guy under you know i
01:02:40.360
think ok cupid was one of the ones that put out these um these charts at one point that it's so hard
01:02:45.160
for guys below like a certain i don't know level to be able to like like one percent of guys get like
01:02:50.680
eighty percent of the girls on social on these dating apps no obviously i was on the one percent
01:02:55.340
no i'm just kidding um but the idea being that you're constantly having to compete with a much
01:03:00.960
wider pool in the same way that you're now competing with an almost universal global pool for all of
01:03:06.840
these things for family for vacations for kids who's got the best pictures it's a constant competition
01:03:13.000
that that's going on whether you realize it or not you're doing so subliminally while you're going
01:03:18.720
through instagram while you're going through tic tac tic toc that's what's going on as you're looking
01:03:24.040
through these images so we're talking about major you know we got to go soon but yeah soon but we have
01:03:29.840
to talk about something really immoral and bad and it's not dinks florida state it's the worst thing
01:03:34.200
possible they didn't let florida state into the playoff is college football done here and the
01:03:38.980
answer truthfully is it was done here a long time ago but you guys were in denial about it i love
01:03:44.560
college football the ducks lost to washington big disappointment i was worried about it my worries
01:03:49.100
were confirmed washington is a better team they play better who cares about who has more talent if
01:03:53.940
you lose um but no florida state should be in the playoff this is insane this is absolutely insane
01:04:00.520
yeah but they didn't put them in because college football is a gross distorted warped version of
01:04:07.440
what it once was and it's kind of i emphasize this because it's actually a weird barrier to i think
01:04:13.700
necessary like actual things we need to do in america like i think a real reason you won't get
01:04:19.920
conservatives at the state level go and like maybe get rid of affirmative action at their colleges or
01:04:25.200
you know get rid of all the stuff is they're worried the ncaa will come in and be like well actually
01:04:28.980
because of you guys are hostile to this or that you guys can't compete in you know the the preparation
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01:04:40.680
a real thing people are obsessed with college football and i get it you like the team but it's weird and
01:04:45.920
creepy where we're still this addicted to what is essentially just a semi-pro football league where
01:04:51.720
the players get paid and they can freely sign with a different team and we'll call it a transfer
01:04:56.600
and we do all this and we're still pretending that they're student athletes just no just call a team
01:05:02.580
the alabama crimson tide and have them play in tuscaloosa and they're a semi-pro league that plays
01:05:07.260
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