On tonight's episode of THX, Charlie and the boys discuss the Epstein scandal, the latest in the spying scandal, and the question, are we facing the end of DEI? And, finally, the Greer Head Pledge.
00:20:36.840It's human nature, and, you know, no man or no woman actually is an island, and they know what to get at.
00:20:43.340You know, if it's women, drugs, booze, it'll find you in D.C. and in most elected offices, and that's what people of power and influence do.
00:20:52.080And it's just, you know, I've been in this game my whole life.
00:20:55.040I spent 16 years in the state legislature in Tennessee and eight years as county mayor, and now I'm in my fifth year of Congress.
00:21:01.140But it's just, the stakes are higher, but the game is still the same.
00:21:06.420Jack, so did you find that persuasive?
00:21:09.420Well, so, notice the catch where he says, I'm sure members of Congress have this happen.
00:21:14.300But then, hold on, then he said it gets very specific.
00:21:16.500It does, but, okay, so then you can turn this around.
00:21:18.780All right, so, Brichette, if you know specific examples, are there members of the Republican Committee who are compromised this way?
00:21:41.020Okay, so this is one of the reasons that I brought up the type of house that Epstein had because the term brownstoning and brownstoning operations, it actually goes back to these types of houses that were used predominantly throughout New York City.
00:21:59.840They're walk-ups, it's a sandstone facade, and it's because the NYPD and the FBI used to use them to set up sting operations in them, and, you know, the brownstone front is sort of like a fake business.
00:22:10.940But over the years, it came to be known as, you know, setting up the type of operation of entrapment and blackmail scheme in which individuals, often minors, are used to lure influential people into these compromising situations.
00:22:24.960The goal is to capture incriminating evidence, so you might get photographs, you might get videos, and then, of course, that can be used to target the, you know, used against the targets as leverage to do their bidding.
00:22:40.620This type of operation has been talked about for years.
00:22:45.060There's been, there are lots of stories written about that Ben Franklin was involved in this type of stuff when he was over in France, for example.
00:22:52.240They had things called the Hellfire Club, which were known as sort of gentlemen's sex clubs.
00:22:57.680And, in fact, oh, by the way, you don't have to listen, take my word for it, Jake Tapper wrote a whole book about it called The Hellfire Club, which is set in the 1950s in Washington, D.C.
00:23:08.840Now, of course, Jake Tapper says that it's all fictional and none of this would ever actually happen.
00:23:14.600This definitely isn't based on anything that Jake Tapper may have heard about and decided to want to reveal through a fictional novel.
00:23:47.480And I'll tell you, as the resident former member of the intelligence community, I can confirm that the intelligence agencies would never, ever use sex trafficking or sex to compromise individuals to steal secrets.
00:24:21.280It was the same day that there was a vote in the House to approve $300 million of additional spending for the FBI HQ, which is supposed to be bigger than the Pentagon, right?
00:24:35.680And this comes amid all the information, all the grassroots uproar about spying on the Catholic Church, about infiltration on J6, the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot.
00:24:46.540It comes amid surveilling white domestic terrorists, domestic extremists, all of this reallocation of FBI resources off legitimate crime and to basically surveil MAGA, right?
00:25:00.120So we have all of this backstory, and then somehow, miraculously, this brothel gets raided, and then the next day there's a vote in the House.
00:25:54.120They could be used as someone who's procuring things for them.
00:25:56.620This could be used for a variety of tasks.
00:26:00.180And, in fact, it could be used for nothing and simply wait as an insurance policy for when you need something.
00:26:06.460What I would say is there's a million examples of our intelligence community being, like, an idiot clown show.
00:26:13.920I mean, these guys make ads about, like, wise Latinas that they've hired who, like, state their pronouns.
00:26:20.840And then as soon as we get into the realm of uncertainty, we kind of require this assumption that they're incredibly effective operators who never screw up.
00:26:29.020And I think that's what stands out the most to me about this.
00:26:31.440We know about the FBI's blackmail attempt on Martin Luther King Jr., you know, 50 years ago.
00:26:43.980Like, they just send him this letter and they're like, hey, Martin, you should kill yourself or bad stuff will happen.
00:26:51.340And that's essentially what they tried to do.
00:26:52.900So we know about this and it didn't work.
00:26:55.060And so since then, I guess all of the blackmail works and never gets publicized in any way.
00:27:02.040And, you know, what stands out is that when we're learning about Epstein, when the early CIA, the CIA and the FBI would do all this, like, spy craft stuff.
00:27:11.480And they're usually sort of bad at it and they get caught and it's, it's, like, embarrassing to them.
00:27:17.300And all the stuff that is recently alleged requires that they be incredibly effective.
00:27:22.340You only know about the operations they got caught on.
00:27:25.360Blake, you made a point earlier that you said a lot of this is maybe puffery.
00:27:29.500A lot of this is sort of, like, staging.
00:27:31.620I mean, I think the way, I mean, Charlie, Jack, we've had conversations about this where people that are, you know, that we run into at different occasions or events and we literally look at each other and we go, yeah, probably an op, probably a spy.
00:27:51.360But there are always these characters.
00:27:53.340But, but yes, what I'm, what I'm saying is, is that the way the Intel influence ops tend to work under my understanding, it's very much on a need to know basis.
00:28:04.440People are not incentivized to expose these things.
00:28:07.480It's, it's much, the guys in the DEI office are, so you want some, you want some examples?
00:28:12.340Denny Hassert was Speaker of the House Senator George W. Bush.
00:29:50.560But then it also creates raw material for the intel agencies.
00:29:53.920I guess what I would say is, is there a good example of a Republican who, like, consistently voiced their opinion against these certain things and then just totally flipped on the vote inexplicably?
00:30:05.100That would be stronger evidence of black men.
00:30:09.100Go ahead, Andrew, who like the truth is, we just have dozens of Republicans or Ken Buck or there would also is what they do is they create, according to Bershatt and other people, this massive sort of Damocles where it's like they know and you know they know.
00:30:22.900And over a period of time, you just kind of go with what is fashionable and you don't try to make too many waves.
00:31:01.080But if he was making threats, I think he could come out and say, hey, I was approached by someone who said, we're going to make your life really bad on this thing, that thing, that thing, unless you, you know.
00:31:08.880It was probably more subtle, but I think Matt would agree.
00:31:11.380He said he was extorted for money, though, right?
00:31:18.180He was a guy that was like a former prosecutor.
00:31:19.280But if anyone, you know, if anyone, well, you know, has the ideology and, you know, the lifestyle that could combine to make him be a blackmail target, it's Matt Gaetz.
00:31:30.360And yet, it seems that whatever they tried to do to Matt Gaetz didn't involve directly blackmailing him, as in, we will do this unless you change your behavior.
00:31:41.400Or maybe he was so disagreeable and just kept on saying he was insistent and that he, then they, they went scorched earth and they said they leaked, the Department of Justice leaked that they had an active trafficking investigation into Gaetz.
00:31:55.440And I think, I think, to try to put him in a box and in some ways it worked for a little bit.
00:31:58.840What my frustration here is, is this is a very long running conservative and just really political belief.
00:32:06.400It's, you know, when people, you know, like when an army loses a battle, they always claim that they were betrayed.
00:34:27.540Jack, do you think that Bernie Sanders political decisions were influenced by his wife being under criminal federal investigation for the handling of that defunct university in Vermont?
00:34:38.020I think Chuck Schumer once said that the intelligence agencies have six ways from Sunday to get back at you.
00:34:44.080And I think that Chuck Schumer knows a lot more about all of this stuff than any of us do.
00:34:48.280Who, Chuck Schumer, who, by the way, very interestingly, someone that he may know or potentially someone related to him, I'm not sure, appears on page 39 of the Epstein flight logs.
00:34:58.140And I've been talking about this all week on Twitter and on my programs that there is a guy by the name of Chuck Schum.
00:35:05.160So Chuck Schumer, almost the exact same name, but Chuck Schum, without the R, who appears on page 39, flew on New Year's Day, 1996, from Palm Beach Island to Teterboro, which is in New Jersey, but also services the New York City area.
00:35:23.680Very interestingly, right around where Chuck Schumer was.
00:35:28.800And Gwendolyn Beck also happened to be on the plane at that time.
00:35:33.220Gwendolyn Beck was the mistress of Bob Menendez.
00:35:36.080So just, you know, since we're talking about blackmail and brownstoning and all of these things, it's interesting that Chuck Schum and Gwendolyn Beck were on the same Epstein flight.
00:35:48.000I just, I want to push back, for example, on the Sanders thing.
00:35:50.960And it's very easy to build these elaborate stories when it's vague.
00:35:54.940But, okay, so the specific thing is, Christina Nolan was the U.S. attorney for Vermont, 2017 to 2021.
00:36:01.240She was a Republican who was appointed by Trump.
00:36:04.420So are we alleging that the Trump administration, which inherited this investigation from the Obama days, because it began with the Obamas, I believe, and they investigated this thing that they got from Democrats for several years and then decided, we're going to drop it as part of a blackmail deal with Bernie Sanders.
00:36:20.180Which means that the Trump administration is blackmailing far-left Democrats.
00:36:55.780And it may have not even been a warning shot.
00:36:58.020But if you find out your wife is under criminal investigation for the handling of a college, you know what that means if you're Bernie Sanders.
00:38:06.140And I noticed something about it that I'd never noticed before.
00:38:09.120If you play it and you play the wait, wait till he sees, wait, wait till Schumer says they have Six Ways to Sunday of getting back at you, right?
00:38:16.940You can almost see in the clip that Schumer realizes he said something he shouldn't have said and then he quickly falls in line and then says something positive about the intel agencies, right?
00:38:28.540It's almost like the guys who know know not to piss them off.
00:38:33.460And that was the whole point of saying, like, Trump's really pissed them off.
00:38:36.680And actually, we really need them and they're great.
00:38:38.580And, you know, you know, and you can see Rachel Maddow gets very surprised.
00:38:43.280It's a very, very, very interesting clip.
00:38:45.140So when you talk about Occam's razor, all of a sudden I look at this clip and I go, you're probably right, right?
00:38:51.320It's like 70 Republicans vote for the FBI the day after the brothel gets raided.
00:38:55.560OK, maybe not all 70 of them are compromised, maybe like 10, maybe 15.
00:39:01.460Isn't that, you know, actually the most logical, you know, option here when we know that politicians have been philanderers since time immemorial?
00:40:15.840It was almost like a bit of humanity that came out of Schumer in that moment where he's like, hey, you know, to my friend, you should knock it off because they're going to get you.
00:40:25.060And, yeah, at the same time, they kind of didn't.
00:40:40.020I just feel like if they're capable of all that other underhanded stuff, they probably could have also, like, faked evidence the Russia hoax was real.
00:40:57.180We love to, the intelligence community loves to claim credit for things that very well might have happened anyway or probably did happen anyway.
00:41:03.880And then, you know, they kind of brush all of their other screw-ups under the rug.
00:41:08.480But we still hear about a ton of them.
00:41:10.240So, Blake's conspiracy theory is that the Intel agencies are incompetent.
00:43:12.220Or, like, you didn't put quotation marks around something.
00:43:15.660The real scandal, of course, and J.D. Vance pointed this out either today or yesterday.
00:43:20.680The real scandal is just that Claudine Gay was ever treated as a scholar in the first place.
00:43:27.060She writes 11 papers over the span of about 25 years.
00:43:31.780All just sort of, you know, race hustle crap.
00:43:35.360And she just relentlessly rises up, you know, through the ranks at Harvard despite this total lack of scholarly excellence, as it were.
00:43:43.480And she eventually is allowed to become president of Harvard University, which you don't have to be the best scholar in the world to be president of Harvard University.
00:43:53.420But this is generally an office that has been held by very distinguished academics.
00:43:57.800You know, as we mentioned yesterday, Larry Summers.
00:44:00.040You don't have to agree with Larry Summers on everything.
00:44:01.760He is an important American economist.
00:47:17.500I'm actually, I think this is amazing because it shows that we can effectuate change.
00:47:22.700These people can be moved towards something.
00:47:25.200Now, whether it's actual progress or not, we'll see.
00:47:28.560But they're weaker than they have presented themselves.
00:47:31.300It's kind of like, it's like Kamala Harris.
00:47:33.700Like, would we rather have Kamala Harris as vice president being this sick joke and they can't get rid of Biden because Kamala is disastrously unpopular?
00:47:42.040Or would we rather have, I don't know, for that matter, would we rather have Gavin Newsom?
00:47:46.840Like a, you know, somehow a straight white guy who managed to claw his way up the Democratic Party, probably really smart and effective for that because he had to overcome all these affirmative action barriers against him.
00:47:56.880That guy would probably be a lot more dangerous as vice president.
00:47:59.780So we kind of like that Kamala Harris is there.
00:48:02.240So similarly, if we view Harvard as this hostile institution whose influence we want to go down, we want this fungus president who's just gumming it up, you know, derailing it, turning it into a joke.
00:48:14.200Not if we, not if everybody still is, not if everybody's still applying the same amount of prestige.
00:48:19.780I think one of the best kind of messaging points here is that like, hey, if you go to Harvard, like, you know, we have less esteem for you now than we did before.
00:48:29.940And that's something that Bill Ackman has been hitting on.
00:48:32.380He's that the damage to the reputation of the university is something that grieves him, you know, as a former, as a Harvard alum.
00:48:39.640But but I also think that the the the real issue here that we're kind of like talking around is the fact that all of this came to a head after October 7th.
00:48:49.820October 7th is what, you know, essentially broke the back of DEI.
00:48:55.380And, you know, I have a couple of thoughts on this.
00:48:57.760The the voices like Bill Ackman and what's the guy at Penn?
00:49:17.220And I thought it was brilliant because what it what it was essentially.
00:49:20.860I don't know if we can find that, Blake, maybe you know how to find it really quick.
00:49:23.960But the tweet was that they are forcing the white majority that is, you know, becoming less and less of a majority until we're going to become a plurality soon enough,
00:49:34.980especially with this border to sort of adopt certain identitarian, I don't know, you know, like a like an identity as a as a group within the with a country.
00:49:46.340But they are forcing the white community, the white population in America to do that, which is a really interesting thing,
00:49:53.160because what we watched with after October 7th was we saw the Jewish community sort of organize and coalesce and start, you know, shouting from the rooftops what was going on on campus was wrong.
00:50:04.720But it also exposed the fact that white Americans have basically and Christians have been the only groups not allowed to sort of say, hey, we're getting we're getting prejudiced against.
00:50:15.720We're getting we're getting discriminated against. How come we don't have a voice in this, especially as we as we become more and more, I would say,
00:50:24.980targeted, more and more victimized by this run amok DEI regime.
00:50:31.980And then we have this crazy stat that came out. And Charlie, you did a great job highlighting it is that six percent in the year after BLM,
00:50:40.120only six percent of was it S&P 100 jobs were given to white applicants.
00:50:45.700Ninety four percent of jobs were given to black applicants.
00:50:49.800And so now you've kind of got this, I think, interesting opportunity for October 7th tragedy,
00:50:57.420as it was to sort of open the door to a larger conversation.
00:51:01.120And people like Bill Ackman are actually getting on board with it.
00:51:04.160And we're having this conversation with diversity in hiring and you have some people on one side of it,
00:51:10.320like Mark Cuban, who's making a total ass of himself. Pardon the pardon the French for the podcast.
00:51:15.640But you've got Mark Cuban on one side. You got Bill Ackman, Elon Musk on the other.
00:51:20.000And it feels like for the first time after October 7th, again, tragedy that we are winning the debate.
00:51:28.160And now we have X to thank for the fact that for the fact that our voice gets to be elevated and not suppressed.
00:51:33.860We're winning the debate about this run amok DEI.
00:51:37.580And I do think, ironically enough, October 7th will be the end of DEI as we know it.
00:51:43.540Now, it's going to mutate and take other forms.
00:51:46.760But as we know it, I think we are seeing the beginning of the end. I hope.
00:51:50.620Yeah, and I hope that it doesn't metamorphosize into DEI with Jewish students protected, quote-unquote, carved out, but anti-white is fine.
00:52:07.320And honestly, it's probably the most likely outcome.
00:52:10.720Yeah, like DEI plus is if you're getting like Hulu plus with an add-on, right?
00:52:14.760Like, you get Hulu plus live TV, well, you get DEI plus, you know, protections for Jewish kids, but total anti-white hatred, still institutionalized.
00:52:25.380Because are we really going to cleanse the institutions of all of this anti-white nonsense?
00:52:44.720There was just another one, you know, the other day where they'll be like, you know, they'll compare, like, black life expectancy is lower than white life expectancy.
00:52:51.900It's become because of white systemic racism, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:53:30.520The thing about Claudine Gay is that Claudine Gay's entire career is essentially built on, you know, get whitey.
00:53:37.960Like, her academic discipline is born out of left-wing critical race theory politics.
00:53:43.260Her papers, such as they are, are basically plagiarizing other people's work on critical race theory politics.
00:53:48.680And so to say that you're just going to disassemble that overnight is very unlikely unless you have, you need, like, really revolutionary leadership.
00:53:58.340You need people to come and say, we're going to, like, burst this, you know, amputate this entire tumor all at once.
00:54:05.340And, I mean, while the gay resignation, I guess, is good, still getting a $900,000 salary and still teaching at Harvard, it's not going to reform the institution.
00:54:21.200So it's basically like you're saying that, and I agree with Blake wholeheartedly on this, that, you know, I don't think it's something you can just do overnight.
00:54:30.800But there's a couple of different things.
00:54:32.700And Andrew, I think, brought it up as well.
00:54:34.300So you are dealing with whites now starting to view themselves more as a specific group, mostly because they've been forced to, by people in positions of power like Claudine Gay, constantly categorizing them as such in a way that whites I don't think internally have ever done.
00:54:52.640It's only been externally through these new factors, but also since October 7th, and I know, Charlie, you took some heat from this because you mentioned, you dared mention Jewish donors when you were talking about the alumni who were very upset about what was going on, specifically in regards to anti-Semitism.
00:55:10.300And your point was that you now have sort of these two batches or maybe three batches of groups, conservatives, of course, most directly being so upset and targeting these administrators and targeting this system.
00:55:27.120The real question is, is this going to be enough to actually break?
00:55:31.960And it's not just DEI because it's all affirmative action.
00:55:34.240And Blake, you and I got into this in the Chronicle series in the fourth episode when we started talking about the 1960s, and that all of this, like, if you want to know where a wokeness comes from, you really do have to go all the way back to the 1960s.
00:55:46.940So you can't just sit there and say, oh, well, this specific program is bad or this specific person is bad.
00:55:53.560It's like we have to really go out and examine the structures on which all of this was built if we want to go back to the original republic, this idea.
00:56:04.520And you and I got into it, we go into a lot about, you know, all men created equal, what does that mean, equality of outcomes, et cetera.
00:56:12.740That, you know, and Charlie, I know in the conservative movement, we like to talk about that all the time, equality before the law, equality before the law.
00:56:18.400But we've we've imported so many people in this country, millions and tens of millions of people into this country that have no idea what that distinction means.
00:56:28.960They look at the government and the relationship between the U.S. government and them as basically a social services compact because that's what it's like in their home countries.
00:56:36.840And so they're like, all right, well, what do I get?
00:57:35.380Some people have said that I take a different approach, although I understand the animosity and the frustration there.
00:57:41.440But if people like Bill Ackman are going to wake up and include all groups, including white people, that they should not be discriminated against.
00:57:50.980And, you know, if you read his long sort of screed on Twitter, he's actually saying like, hey, the most qualified person should be the next should be the next president of Harvard.
00:58:03.180And by the way, you should fire all of the board.
00:58:05.380So what I'm saying is it might take decades to fully root it out.
00:58:08.900But for the first time ever, you know, we can go on.
01:07:52.280So, to explain it more, because, again, one, this is bizarrely hard.
01:07:56.540People love their weed for some reason.
01:07:58.320People love their rap music for some reason.
01:08:00.160And kind of each one of them, as he explains it, is sort of pushing back on, like, a degenerate angle of American culture, a way American culture is going rotten.
01:08:10.880So, tattoo, and so that's why certain things could definitely be there.
01:08:14.600Like, there's no, I will not use porn, but sort of the, no weed, kind of as part of that, it's that you're pushing back on this.
01:08:21.640So, weed is that there's this widespread acceptance of, like, bad, addictive crap in American life.
01:08:27.580That people are, you know, doing all these drugs, doing all this stuff that's self-destructive, and we just wallow in it.
01:08:33.280And it's, you know, it's considered okay to talk about, you know, we have ads for it everywhere, and that's trashy.
01:08:38.600And he's sort of saying, we should aspire to bring back kind of old 50s and before wasp culture.
01:08:44.340Even if we're not wasps, that was a good culture that was good for America that we should aspire to.
01:10:40.120And then, you know, the Eagles have this great thing they do where when you apply a little bit of pressure, they completely fold.
01:10:46.660Say it's actually a coping mechanism, defense mechanism that's learned, evolved over the years.
01:10:50.820But, yeah, being Eagles fans or being Catholic or Polish culture, et cetera.
01:10:54.680No, now, all of that out the window, it's all Star Wars on, like, every car that I saw with kids in it.
01:11:00.880So, by the way, we're actually taking, in the Poso household, we are taking the Greer Pledge or, you know, or making our own version of this to the next level.
01:11:12.260So, not only are we doing, I already don't watch Marvel movies, but we are also raising our children Star Wars free.
01:11:20.680So, at this point, my kids do not actually do all of it.
01:13:47.880As a guy who was in the Navy, I think I'm the only guy who's ever gone through eight years in the Navy without getting a tattoo or having one sip of alcohol the entire time.
01:13:58.860Apparently, a majority of women under 40 have tattoos now.
01:23:06.280I happen to think that the NIL is actually totally elevated the sport.
01:23:10.200Because instead of just, like, Georgia dominating everything and Alabama dominating everything and Ohio State, now you've got this transfer portal.
01:23:17.340And, like, now you're going to have, essentially, you're going to have a 12-team playoff.
01:23:21.080And you're going to actually have about eight legitimate contenders.
01:23:23.600Like, this year, Oregon in a playoff would have been pretty, like, I think it would have been really fun to watch.