Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 3 — AA Dead？, Georgia Soy Man, Bonus Holes, The Shopping Cart Test

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00:00:20.700 Hello everybody, welcome to episode 3 of Thought Crimes.

00:00:24.060 Joining us tonight is Jack Posobiec, Andrew Pulvet, and Blake Neff.

00:00:27.240 Blake, you're famous now, congratulations, there's no escaping it.

00:00:30.240 And I'm honored to be here, and I'm in a much better place than I was 48 hours ago,

00:00:36.420 where I had some sort of Luciferian digestive attack,

00:00:39.500 for all of you that have dealt with some form of a stomach flu.

00:00:42.420 That's a unique form of torture.

00:00:44.380 But I'm doing a lot better, and I just want to say how thankful I am for the

00:00:46.940 Carly Kirk Show day team, same team, but specifically Andrew and Blake

00:00:51.060 and all of them who stepped up when I literally could not host yesterday.

00:00:54.780 And it was great.

00:00:55.700 So thank you guys for that.

00:00:57.140 And there's a lot of news to cover.

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00:01:18.760 Affirmative action, 6-3 decision.

00:01:20.560 Blake, why don't you kick us off tonight?

00:01:21.940 All right, yeah.

00:01:24.580 So the decision came down today in Students for Fair Admissions versus Harvard,

00:01:30.280 which has been worming its way through the federal court system seemingly since the start

00:01:35.780 of the Trump administration.

00:01:37.020 It's been going a long time.

00:01:38.080 And this was the case that was brought by a coalition of, it was a lot of pro-Asian activists

00:01:45.660 about the fact that Harvard has very blatant anti-Asian discrimination, as well as anti-white

00:01:52.860 discrimination in its admissions process.

00:01:54.860 And so the decision finally came down today.

00:01:58.560 It was a 6-3 decision written by Justice Roberts, where he said it was evaluating the admissions

00:02:05.020 policies at Harvard and at the University of North Carolina.

00:02:10.200 And it found that both of them were just, it ruled that both of them were unconstitutional.

00:02:14.100 So it took us at least a step closer to actually declaring affirmative action explicitly

00:02:21.740 unconstitutional, although Roberts kind of pulls his punch, where he says, well, you

00:02:27.180 know, you can evaluate race as an individual matter.

00:02:32.520 And so Harvard has already come out saying like, oh, we're still going to use, we're going

00:02:35.960 to use all of these essays to evaluate people and, you know, to tease out, you know, what

00:02:41.960 their race is.

00:02:43.100 They're already making plans about that.

00:02:45.000 But it's still a big step forward, which you can tell just from how berserk Sonia Sotomayor

00:02:50.980 and Ketanji Brown-Jackson are in their descents, where they just absolutely lose their minds

00:02:55.360 at the prospect of affirmative action going away.

00:02:58.520 And same thing with a lot of people on Twitter.

00:03:01.320 So that's probably the best sign that today's decision was a very good one.

00:03:04.960 Andrew.

00:03:07.200 Well, I mean, you know, we talked about this on our show, and I'm curious about Jack's

00:03:12.240 perspective here.

00:03:13.720 But I mean, I give this like a C minus.

00:03:15.480 I think Blake gave it a B minus, and Charlie, you gave it a D. It was actually surprising

00:03:22.920 that Blake was the most positive on it.

00:03:24.680 I mean, I look at this, and instantly I looked at Robert's squishy words here, and we predicted

00:03:30.640 that it was just going to, they're just going to find another way to institute the racism

00:03:35.120 regime into college admissions.

00:03:37.460 I mean, is it a better world that we're living in today than we were yesterday?

00:03:41.440 Is it a more fair world?

00:03:43.400 Yeah.

00:03:44.460 But it really could have been an opportunity for the Supreme Court to completely nuke 0.67

00:03:48.280 affirmative action.

00:03:50.040 And now Harvard's basically doing this.

00:03:51.780 If you could throw up, though, however, the 99.

00:03:56.980 It's an interesting graphic we have here.

00:04:00.020 Because you see Harvard, and Charlie, you had a tweet, actually, that went pretty viral today

00:04:04.600 about Harvard and their email and how they're like, oh, we're so excited to comply with this,

00:04:11.300 because they knew there was a loophole for them.

00:04:13.120 But actually, if you read the part outlined in red, it says, but despite the dissent's assertion

00:04:18.240 to the contrary, universities may not simply establish through application essays or other

00:04:24.480 means the regime we hold unlawful today.

00:04:27.600 A dissenting opinion is generally not the best source of legal advice on how to comply with

00:04:31.440 the majority opinion.

00:04:32.280 What cannot be done directly cannot be done indirectly.

00:04:35.900 So it's actually in the decision.

00:04:38.580 But we already know from what Harvard's putting out publicly that the universities are just going

00:04:43.560 to find another way to do this.

00:04:44.940 And they're going to get it through the back door.

00:04:47.520 And we're just going to have to fight this again and again and again.

00:04:50.920 So I give it like a C minus.

00:04:52.580 Yeah, at least it's expressly illegal.

00:04:56.120 And to Blake's point, libs are freaking out.

00:04:58.840 But it's still going to keep happening.

00:05:00.620 And we're just going to have to figure out how to how to it's like whack a mole.

00:05:04.280 You're going to have to keep like, you know, hitting the affirmative action mole as it comes 0.96

00:05:08.560 through other other channels.

00:05:10.640 The reason I rated it so so highly is I'm blackpilled enough.

00:05:15.220 I was worried the Supreme Court was just going to say, oh, actually, this is great.

00:05:18.040 They can keep they can keep doing it.

00:05:20.060 And your your your your expectations were so low that you're actually pleasantly surprised.

00:05:25.280 Exactly. Exactly. And to your point about how, you know, we have to fight this forever.

00:05:30.200 Like the reason we're in this situation, the reason we're having to evaluate this is this

00:05:34.900 went to the Supreme Court more than 40 years ago in the Backey decision in the University

00:05:40.020 of California, where they were evaluating whether it was OK to have racial quotas, explicit

00:05:45.360 racial quotas where they just set like 15 seats aside for one race.

00:05:49.240 And the court said quotas are bad, but, you know, you can still evaluate race for the

00:05:53.940 sake of diversity.

00:05:56.320 And so that then from that, that's like the entire source of the diversity industrial complex.

00:06:01.280 Like no one was talking about diversity in the 1950s, the 1960s or the 70s.

00:06:05.420 And then one Supreme Court justice gets won over by this diversity thing.

00:06:09.800 And then, you know, 40 years later, we have this massive diversity industrial complex where

00:06:14.080 every company, every school, every agency has a chief diversity officer.

00:06:18.580 And so you can easily see how this bureaucracy could get pivoted over to, oh, now we have

00:06:24.720 to, we're going to have this massive essay reading industrial complex to find how this

00:06:30.320 person's experience with race is super individualized and adds a ton to their, their personality.

00:06:36.160 And, you know, they will fight very, very hard to preserve this.

00:06:40.820 And I think it's unfortunate that Justice Roberts backed off from just saying like,

00:06:48.280 you can't consider race in admissions.

00:06:50.560 Just, he could have even gone whole hog and said, you just can't, you can't even collect racial data.

00:06:56.920 You have to obscure racial data because our evidence shows that whenever you consider this,

00:07:01.600 you start doing unconstitutional things.

00:07:03.540 And maybe we'll get that in a few more years, but I'm annoyed it didn't happen today.

00:07:07.380 Yeah.

00:07:09.180 Yeah.

00:07:09.600 No, I'm with you on that, Blake, because we're in a situation now where, again, the same arguments

00:07:15.120 that are being made aren't necessarily about, oh, we're just going to go back to race.

00:07:19.600 It's, it's more, they're, they're having this very, you know, blue pilled normie kind of argument

00:07:25.060 as to say, when did white supremacy end in America?

00:07:29.460 Is it over now?

00:07:30.820 Did it end in the 1980s?

00:07:32.200 Did it end in the 1990s?

00:07:33.660 And when did the, the white supremacists stop running the country?

00:07:37.820 That's essentially the framework that they're arguing in.

00:07:40.460 And that's just not true.

00:07:41.600 And it's never been true.

00:07:43.400 Okay.

00:07:43.840 This is a situation where people were, were allowed to come into the, the schools.

00:07:49.800 These, this mission process was done through what?

00:07:54.140 That through merit.

00:07:55.420 So who scored better on the tests?

00:07:58.420 It was a very simple process, but then they didn't get the classes that they wanted because

00:08:04.080 years later, suddenly they started saying, no, we want to play social engineering and we

00:08:08.860 want this class to look a certain way.

00:08:10.460 Or we want that class to look a certain way.

00:08:12.120 And so they start putting it in.

00:08:13.700 So the, the issue that I see, and I see this with so many conservatives, even with their response

00:08:18.060 to it to say that, Hey, we're, you know, we're the Dems are the real racist. 0.98

00:08:21.720 The Dems are the real racist. 0.96

00:08:22.900 When you're not sitting there and saying, no, actually it had nothing to do with race 0.97

00:08:26.720 to begin with.

00:08:27.840 And it's all about who is better, who are the best candidates for these schools, for

00:08:34.200 these elite institutions.

00:08:35.520 And if you're not the right candidate, then you're not the right candidate.

00:08:38.500 Tough bricks, you know?

00:08:39.480 And I think honestly, though, because you have a situation where, as Blake has said, you know,

00:08:45.060 there's these, you know, essays and Harvard put out that letter earlier saying, oh, we're

00:08:49.080 going to accept the essays.

00:08:50.080 We're going to be doing the essays.

00:08:51.160 Fine.

00:08:51.860 Then, you know what?

00:08:52.560 Then everybody out there, um, you know, just everyone out there, guess what? 0.98

00:08:56.960 You are now all black lesbians and you are now going to be writing your essay as the 1.00

00:09:02.100 black lesbian. 0.97

00:09:02.780 And you're going to talk about your experience growing up as a black lesbian in America and 0.81

00:09:07.720 how that has affected you and why going to Harvard would make your life so much better.

00:09:11.900 Yeah, so the question is, you know, how will this apply then at all the federal hiring

00:09:18.540 practices?

00:09:19.360 Because people don't recognize or realize how much, how widespread this affirmative action

00:09:25.200 regime really is.

00:09:26.380 And the one I want to focus on, Jack, to kind of throw back to you, is the military.

00:09:31.360 I think that does this decision open an opportunity for a complaint?

00:09:36.160 And is there affirmative action in the military?

00:09:38.060 I've heard conflicting.

00:09:39.280 I mean, I think it's obviously in the military, but let's say that it definitely isn't defense

00:09:44.720 contracting in certain parts of the military.

00:09:46.580 Does this open an opportunity for a serious challenge next summer to go after the practice

00:09:52.360 of affirmative action in federal hiring?

00:09:55.200 Well, I think that's right.

00:09:56.640 And so, uh, the military versus federal hiring, there's a number of different ways that you

00:10:02.120 can be hired by the federal, um, the federal government outside of the military.

00:10:06.080 So typically if you're going in, just looking at the military perspective, obviously there's

00:10:10.060 lots of onboarding programs.

00:10:11.440 Uh, the most commonly known ones though, I think of course are enlisting in the military

00:10:16.420 or if you are, um, if you have a college degree going and, um, going and becoming a member

00:10:22.480 of swearing in as a member of the officer corps.

00:10:25.300 Um, I actually had the opportunity to do both interestingly enough.

00:10:28.400 So when you go into enlist, you take something called the ASVAP, the armed services, vocational

00:10:33.780 aptitude battery, which is still a test, which determines whether or not you can get in.

00:10:39.400 And then depending on your score on the test that determines which jobs are open to you.

00:10:44.000 So when I went in for the Navy that opened up a certain amount of jobs, uh, when I either,

00:10:49.220 they, they basically said to me, you can either be a nuclear engineer or an intelligence

00:10:52.940 analyst, I said, I want Intel because I never want there to be an issue with the nuclear

00:10:56.960 reactor.

00:10:57.460 And then they said, Hey, let's call Posovic.

00:10:59.340 Let's get him in there.

00:11:00.160 And then Fukushima happened a few years later.

00:11:02.300 So I was right.

00:11:04.540 And, uh, on the officer side, it is a little bit more on the officer side though.

00:11:08.480 I got to say, Charlie, that is where, and by the way, it's the same ASVAP regardless

00:11:12.340 of which branch you're going into.

00:11:13.860 So there's not a different one for army, Navy, Marines, air force.

00:11:17.020 It's all the same one.

00:11:17.780 Now on the officer side, if there were any social engineering going on, that's where you

00:11:23.560 would definitely have that come in because they adopt same as, as these institutions,

00:11:28.880 this holistic approach.

00:11:30.820 Yes, there is a test, but that's only one piece of it.

00:11:33.160 And then there's a whole, you know, what they call the holistic approach, which of course

00:11:36.780 is taken from university admissions to determine who can become an officer in whatever various

00:11:42.480 community you might be going into.

00:11:43.940 So there's obviously the branches, but then, um, so I'm, I'm more familiar with intelligence

00:11:48.660 core, but, um, there's, you know, there's different, there's surface in the Navy, for

00:11:52.240 example, there's surface warfare, there's submariners, um, electronic warfare, there's

00:11:55.760 many different obviously.

00:11:56.800 And then, uh, various other logistics and, and obviously legal, of course, uh, Ron DeSantis

00:12:02.140 also was a, uh, member of the legal core as a JAG officer, for example, so the JAG

00:12:07.160 core.

00:12:08.140 There's a few interesting things here, uh, Jack, which is one back in 2020, there was

00:12:13.920 during the big Floyd meltdown, there was a kind of a set of recommendations that was

00:12:18.920 produced in the military for how to, uh, improve diversity in the upper officer ranks.

00:12:25.340 And one of the recommendations, which was accepted, I can't remember which official accepted

00:12:30.200 it.

00:12:30.500 It was, I think one of, I think one of Trump's appointees at DOD, uh, where one of the recommendations

00:12:36.040 was remove any aptitude, uh, tests or requirements related to officer promotion that were, uh,

00:12:44.540 hindering diversity.

00:12:45.540 And that was actually accepted by, uh, that per, by that senior official who I don't have

00:12:50.400 the name in front of me.

00:12:51.300 And I don't know what ramifications that might've produced yet, but that was something they did

00:12:55.220 accept in late 2020 as like something they should aim to do.

00:12:58.340 And another thing was that, um, there was a, I believe an admiral who a few years ago,

00:13:06.160 they started, they removed, uh, photos from promotion boards.

00:13:11.740 They stopped using photos.

00:13:12.840 And then this guy came out and said, actually, we should put the photos back in, uh, cause that

00:13:17.340 will improve our diversity shot.

00:13:19.000 So we're definitely seeing.

00:13:20.460 Yeah.

00:13:21.180 Yeah.

00:13:21.620 So an officer board is different than the onboarding process that I was just talking about.

00:13:24.860 But an officer board is when you're going up for promotion.

00:13:27.820 So, uh, in an officer board, the board is constituted in, in Navy.

00:13:32.180 It's actually down in Tennessee, believe it or not, uh, in Millington.

00:13:35.460 And this is where a group of officers is brought together.

00:13:38.360 And then they review packages for promotion into these higher, um, higher echelons.

00:13:44.460 And one of the main, right.

00:13:46.940 One of the main components of this is having a photo of the officer there.

00:13:51.940 So initially at one point there was a huge push to say, you know what, we want to be

00:13:56.920 colorblind.

00:13:57.720 We don't want anything to do with this.

00:13:59.060 We're going to remove the photos.

00:14:01.200 And that was pushed for a while, but then suddenly all along the while it came back and

00:14:05.720 they said, no, we, we're going to put those pictures back in because essentially, and these

00:14:09.660 are very fast, by the way, um, when an officer board is being held, um, the, the time that

00:14:16.640 you take to actually look at each officer that goes through the board is very quick.

00:14:20.220 We're talking minutes.

00:14:21.180 So you're looking at it at specific, uh, components of their command scores that have

00:14:25.240 been approved.

00:14:25.740 And that picture actually, because you only have a few minutes to look at it plays a huge

00:14:30.420 role.

00:14:30.860 And of course they're never going to come out and admit this, but it's obvious why they

00:14:34.480 put it back in.

00:14:35.160 They put it back in because they want to promote diversity.

00:14:38.260 Yeah.

00:14:38.740 And so, I mean, this is, this is a good thing, but let's talk about the fundamental lie of what

00:14:44.020 this is based on.

00:14:44.900 Andrew, you could pick, you know, pick in here if whoever wants to, the fundamental lie

00:14:49.300 is that somehow disparate incomes can be, let's just take the most innocent reading

00:14:54.900 as if there's not a clearly anti-white anti-Asian agenda here, which of course they're right. 1.00

00:14:59.960 We said that and everyone lost their mind, but there is a war on white people. 0.83

00:15:02.900 And it's been that way for a couple of decades, but putting that aside, let's pretend they mean

00:15:07.380 well, okay, that they want to try to fix disparate incomes and impact, that somehow you can do

00:15:14.420 this by disenfranchising, but there's a cost to everything, isn't there?

00:15:19.180 So Andrew, that if you're going to all of a sudden accommodate something that doesn't matter

00:15:23.020 against something that does matter, there's a cost to everything in life.

00:15:26.940 And what you're going to get is you're going to get a institution that is not in the pursuit

00:15:31.660 of excellence, that is in the pursuit of parity or egalitarianism.

00:15:35.800 You're going to get this.

00:15:37.600 And I mean, so here's a thought prime, interesting question.

00:15:40.340 Andrew, you can go first.

00:15:41.760 Has affirmative action been one of the reasons why our colleges are more mediocre than they 1.00

00:15:47.220 really should be?

00:15:48.760 Is that, is that fair to say when you do not have excellence be the primary reason to let

00:15:54.160 people into your schools is, and this is not something that is foreign to Victor Davis

00:15:58.280 Hanson, for example, Victor Davis Hanson has spoken out for decades saying that the students

00:16:03.540 that are coming into Stanford, they do not know basic information, that they are not equipped

00:16:08.560 or prepared.

00:16:09.180 They do not work as hard.

00:16:10.540 They should take an exit exam after they're there because they're barely not learning anything.

00:16:14.220 Andrew, is that too far to say?

00:16:15.760 Has affirmative action contributed to what I would call the college stamp?

00:16:20.440 Yeah.

00:16:20.560 I mean, I think there's no doubt about it that I think it's, you know, we just had somebody

00:16:27.280 actually the day I was guest hosting for you.

00:16:29.640 We had somebody on the show, James Fishback, who was talking about the bastardization of

00:16:36.580 high school speech and debate classes.

00:16:38.460 So now they have all these woke judges that are coming in and basically telling kids they're

00:16:42.540 not allowed to talk about certain topics.

00:16:44.240 So they're not allowed to defend capitalism, Israel.

00:16:47.620 They're not allowed to defend, you know, honestly, affirmative action was one of the 0.86

00:16:52.480 things they're not allowed to defend.

00:16:53.720 This is the day before the ruling came down.

00:16:56.620 But I also think, so when you do that, you have a ideological desert on college campuses.

00:17:02.180 You also have a bunch of kids that then become really good at self-censoring and not so much

00:17:07.120 defending ideas, right?

00:17:09.200 So I think that's a big part of it.

00:17:11.160 Yeah, I think you also have the fact that you're just getting less qualified people.

00:17:15.780 It was a funny debate that happened today because as soon as the ruling came out, we

00:17:20.160 got that really annoying tweet from Michelle Obama.

00:17:25.100 And everybody on the right was like, yeah, you stole somebody's spot at Princeton that

00:17:30.180 was more qualified than you.

00:17:31.440 You don't believe me?

00:17:32.600 I know that she's like this big celebrity right now. 0.56

00:17:34.380 You don't believe me?

00:17:34.960 Go look at your honors thesis.

00:17:37.180 The thing was, it was like written from an eighth grader's perspective.

00:17:41.800 It was multiple typos in the conclusion.

00:17:44.660 It just has a bunch of typos in it.

00:17:46.540 It's amazing.

00:17:47.240 I kid you not.

00:17:48.060 It was written like this.

00:17:49.160 It was, I believe being a black person at Princeton is good because.

00:17:53.960 And I think that it's not okay to discriminate against black people because it was the most,

00:18:01.120 I mean, the clauses of these sentences were literally rudimentary.

00:18:07.280 They were elementary.

00:18:08.420 So I think, yeah, the quality goes down.

00:18:11.000 But I think another thing that, and actually Blake highlighted this, so Blake, feel free

00:18:16.100 to chime in, but there's this case that you mentioned before, Bakke, right?

00:18:21.200 It was argued in front of the Supreme Court, and it was about racial quotas.

00:18:28.700 And now it was Patrick Chavis and Alan Bakke, right?

00:18:32.680 So Bakke was a white guy who challenged racial quotas at UC Davis.

00:18:36.780 UC Davis.

00:18:37.820 All roads lead to UC Davis.

00:18:40.060 Sorry, I know, right?

00:18:41.080 Patrick Chavis is a black guy who was admitted to UC Davis under affirmative action the year

00:18:46.380 Bakke was rejected, okay?

00:18:48.500 So this is a really interesting story.

00:18:50.680 Go ahead and throw Bakke's picture up here, right?

00:18:53.100 Or Chavis's picture.

00:18:54.780 It's number 100, I believe.

00:18:57.160 So this guy becomes the poster child of why, like, State Senator Tom Hayden asked his fellow

00:19:04.500 Californians, who made the most of his medical school education?

00:19:08.740 From whom did California taxpayers benefit more? 0.92

00:19:12.900 He was the poster child of affirmative action, because he was this black man that wouldn't 1.00

00:19:18.140 have gotten in had it not been for affirmative action.

00:19:20.560 He supposedly went on to have this great career.

00:19:23.360 But lo and behold, this guy ended up—I've got to get the exact number—but he was sued,

00:19:30.900 I'm talking, like, was over 21 times for medical malpractice and gross negligence.

00:19:39.260 The California Medical Board brought 90 counts of misconduct and gross negligence.

00:19:44.600 And the—instead of being the perfect example of a doctor, he literally was stripped of his

00:19:50.300 license because he was so incompetent. 0.84

00:19:52.700 This guy should be the poster child to defend what the Supreme Court just did today.

00:19:57.060 And most people have never revisited the case.

00:19:59.540 The New York Times did this big expose on him, celebrating him.

00:20:04.240 He was the poster child.

00:20:05.820 And then it turns out he was the exact opposite of that, but they never wrote about it.

00:20:10.340 So the New York Times never closed the case.

00:20:12.400 They never corrected the record.

00:20:14.300 And ironically enough, he ended up dying at, like, 50 years old.

00:20:18.360 He got murdered on the street, which is really sad.

00:20:21.360 And in 2002, at the age of 50, murdered by carjackers on the streets of Hawthorne.

00:20:26.080 So he's, like, this cautionary tale wrapped up in a blue city bow.

00:20:32.220 It's crazy, actually.

00:20:33.040 You're missing the best anecdote, which is that during the malpractice investigation into him,

00:20:38.600 a tape recording surfaced in which he was chanting, 0.75

00:20:42.000 liar, liar, pants on fire, while one of his patients was screaming in agony over his poor handling of them. 0.91

00:20:49.840 Yeah, wasn't he, like, a liposuction doctor or something? 1.00

00:20:53.140 That's what he killed someone.

00:20:54.680 He was doing, like, fly-by-night liposuction operation.

00:20:58.560 And the person died, and he, like, fled the scene after it was botched.

00:21:02.260 So he was missing for a time period.

00:21:05.440 Charlie, to answer your question, Dr. Chavis is what you get when you stop caring about excellence and meritocracy,

00:21:13.380 and you just care about skin tone.

00:21:14.540 And so, Blake, is it, am I being too, let's just say, cruel to college to say that affirmative action

00:21:21.980 is one of the reasons why colleges have become places of mediocrity where low-IQ thinking reigns supreme?

00:21:28.700 Okay, tell me why I'm correct, Blake.

00:21:29.660 Not at all.

00:21:29.860 There's actually, I'm just remembering this, and I'm bringing it up on Heterodox Academy.

00:21:35.080 It's not on the laptop, guys.

00:21:36.760 Don't bring it up.

00:21:37.540 But it's this letter that was written by a California judge in 1969, which is Yale Law at that time.

00:21:46.060 This was before the Supreme Court said you couldn't do quotas.

00:21:48.240 So Yale basically just announced they're going to do a racial quota.

00:21:51.240 And this California Court of Appeals judge, Macklin Fleming, wrote a letter to the dean of Yale Law School.

00:21:59.680 And then I think he eventually made the letter public in some way, because we do have it now.

00:22:03.920 And so I'm reading this letter on Heterodox Academy, and he pointed out what was going to happen as a result of this.

00:22:10.920 And it's so prescient.

00:22:12.200 Remember, this is being written in 1969.

00:22:14.860 And what Judge Fleming writes is he first anticipates, well, they're less qualified, so they're going to not do as well in class.

00:22:23.500 He just predicts that.

00:22:24.780 And then here's what he predicts will happen in the future.

00:22:27.840 Quote, no one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly.

00:22:32.300 Black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression.

00:22:43.160 This is likely to take two forms.

00:22:45.680 First, agitation to change the environment from one where they are unable to compete to one in which they can.

00:22:51.540 Demands will be made for the elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training.

00:23:09.660 Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies.

00:23:35.620 Unquote.

00:23:36.220 Are you think he's predicting race hoaxes?

00:23:40.180 Is that what you're calling here?

00:23:41.060 He's predicting that, but also, I mean, we've literally seen that, where professors, you know, are giving extra credit if you're doing political activities on campus.

00:23:49.740 We've seen, it's famously at a lot of universities, the sort of grievance studies departments, you know, black studies, queer studies, women's and gender studies.

00:23:59.540 These are almost always low standards.

00:24:01.860 They're very easy to get A's in.

00:24:03.480 Let me ask one more question, Jack, maybe just from the institution of colleges.

00:24:08.760 It's important to wonder who's actually pushing this.

00:24:11.820 It's not the donors.

00:24:13.180 The donors really don't care. 0.87

00:24:14.320 In fact, they're against it.

00:24:15.520 It's not the state legislatures in a lot of these states.

00:24:17.720 It seems as if it's actually the faculty and the administrators.

00:24:21.620 So, Jack, they've been centrally planning these colleges for 40 years with a regime of anti-racism, and the result is colleges that are crummier than ever and crappier than ever.

00:24:33.780 Jack Posobiec, final thoughts on this topic?

00:24:36.980 Well, I mean, Charlie, you're right, and I think higher education at this level probably isn't meant for all people.

00:24:43.520 Most people don't need it.

00:24:44.760 It's just a way for them to get into debt slavery, but I also wanted to point out that as positive as we've all been in talking about RFK Jr., he's come out extremely against this decision.

00:24:57.820 He's saying that colorblind admissions tend to favor those who are already in the circle of privilege.

00:25:03.700 It favors those who grew up in affluent, educated households like himself, obviously.

00:25:08.060 Wouldn't you like to invite in those who have been left out in the cold?

00:25:12.180 So, going full pathos with this, RFK Jr. completely coming out against the Supreme Court today, really burgeoning, of course, his family's legacy on, politically speaking, with the Civil Rights Act and trying to gather up a lot of those votes in terms of that the same way that his father and uncle did.

00:25:31.360 Yeah, remember, he is a Democrat, everybody, as Blake keeps on reminding me when I praise him.

00:25:36.760 And I appreciate that counterbalance whenever I praise him, but I'm glad he's running, and I think that it's exciting that he challenges the corporate leviathan that runs our country.

00:25:46.340 Okay, this actually ties beautifully from one topic to the other.

00:25:49.660 So we go from the policy of the regime of anti-racism to a story that has gone totally viral that shows what people fear the most.

00:25:58.780 And it is not an exaggeration to say in this video that some people truly fear being called a racist more than getting murdered.

00:26:10.740 That is not an exaggeration. 0.95

00:26:13.220 Being called a racist would make you tremble in fear more than the idea of actually getting your head cut off.

00:26:24.460 Play cut 85, I am not exaggerating, and there's a lot of elements here, and there is a very, very, very base take here.

00:26:32.160 Is he wrong?

00:26:33.600 Play cut 85.

00:26:35.460 Why is it happening?

00:26:37.800 I'm being arrested?

00:26:38.940 Yes.

00:26:40.080 Or what?

00:26:40.700 I'm sorry.

00:26:42.340 Or what?

00:26:44.880 I'll be with you in just one second.

00:26:46.400 Are you arrested?

00:26:47.540 Mm-hmm.

00:26:48.200 I just wanted to make some of them.

00:26:49.800 But still, he, um, I will need for you to fill out a statement for him.

00:26:56.920 I don't want him arrested.

00:26:57.840 I just wanted to leave us alone.

00:26:58.800 I know, but he had a weapon on him, and it was terrorist threats.

00:27:02.600 Brandishing is not a crime with a knife.

00:27:04.160 Brandishing is only a crime for a gun.

00:27:06.440 Terroristic threats, though, sir.

00:27:09.840 Because he said, die to me, and had his knife out?

00:27:12.940 Well, all that was done.

00:27:15.460 The threats, everything.

00:27:16.580 If I thought you were going to arrest him, I wouldn't call it.

00:27:21.300 I just wanted to leave us alone.

00:27:23.100 I understand, but we still have a job to do. 0.62

00:27:25.600 No, he's going to say, he's going to think I'm doing this because I'm white and he's black.

00:27:30.300 Or he's homeless and I'm not.

00:27:32.060 I don't want that.

00:27:32.520 But did he do what he did?

00:27:34.480 Yeah, but I don't want him thinking I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:27:39.060 I just want him to leave us alone.

00:27:40.740 I doubt that.

00:27:43.560 Oh, my gosh. 0.81

00:27:44.760 I mean, if my voice breaks that bad, please euthanize me.

00:27:50.220 No, but so here is the.

00:27:53.080 Yeah, no, it's in Georgia.

00:27:54.100 Yeah.

00:27:54.440 Brian Kemp. 0.99

00:27:55.420 And so you got a black terrorist with a knife. 0.98

00:27:59.620 And that, by the way, that's not an exaggeration of a description. 0.94

00:28:02.540 That is this amazing police.

00:28:04.580 And I love this based. 0.92

00:28:06.660 I'm inferring she's black and I don't want. 1.00

00:28:08.520 I think she's a black police officer based on public reporting. 1.00

00:28:11.640 Yes.

00:28:12.000 And if I'm wrong, please correct me.

00:28:13.500 But I just and first of all, you could tell she's not very tall because she's looking up.

00:28:18.400 Right.

00:28:18.760 So and she's just doing her job.

00:28:21.520 And she's like, well, didn't he do what you said he did?

00:28:25.840 It is hard to put into words here.

00:28:28.000 However, yes.

00:28:29.760 Let's make fun of him first.

00:28:30.780 Let's go through that cycle.

00:28:31.640 But what did this guy what did this guy fear?

00:28:34.920 This guy feared that he might get docs, that he might get the Karen treatment.

00:28:39.680 But first, let's start here.

00:28:41.040 Jack, what country do we live in where a white metrosexual beta male Chris Hayes type starts crying terribly when a guy who's threatening, I assume, his family with a knife and he starts crying?

00:28:54.700 And by the way, we just got to play this one more time.

00:28:56.140 Cut 86.

00:28:56.820 This is going to be the new meme.

00:28:57.960 It's the new screaming up to the heavens. 0.99

00:29:00.960 Why shall you arrest black criminals? 1.00

00:29:03.380 I would I don't want them to think it's because I'm they're black. 0.99

00:29:06.420 Play cut 86 again.

00:29:08.680 He's going to think I'm doing this because I'm white and he's black or he's homeless and I'm not.

00:29:14.360 I don't want that.

00:29:15.280 But did he do what he did?

00:29:16.740 Yeah, but I don't want him thinking I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:29:21.320 I just want him to leave us alone.

00:29:22.980 I doubt that.

00:29:25.280 OK, Jack.

00:29:26.040 I didn't want anyone to think I did it because he's in whatever situation he's in.

00:29:31.820 I just I just did it because because I'm not racist.

00:29:36.120 I'm just don't have to arrest him.

00:29:38.280 Look, you got it.

00:29:39.160 And for folks who are listening on the podcast side, this is a I mean, that individual is is pretty big, actually, physically.

00:29:46.840 I mean, you're looking at someone who's at least six foot because you can see the fence and that person's at least as tall as the fence based on the angle of the body cam and possibly a little bit taller than that fence.

00:29:57.400 Seems to be pretty got some mass, not a not a skinny guy, but is by any means, but is just losing it.

00:30:04.540 That's a man you're listening to, by the way, folks, on the podcast.

00:30:07.560 You are listening to the voice of a man whose voice is cracking because he realizes that the psychopathic criminal that was about to stab his family is now about to be arrested.

00:30:18.820 Keep in mind, this is a this someone from Georgia.

00:30:20.620 This is the deep south.

00:30:22.720 This is a place where originally, you know, it used to be, you know, the southern pride, et cetera, flying the rebel flag.

00:30:29.860 It's all this stuff.

00:30:31.040 Now it's like completely flipped on its end.

00:30:34.780 It's and yeah, no, this is exactly right.

00:30:37.560 This is rebel spirit becomes white guilt.

00:30:39.960 It's a complete one as if there's no nuance, right?

00:30:43.180 Well, you know, guys, you know, he's tall, but I'm checking and a soy plant can grow to up to six and a half feet tall.

00:30:50.420 So, okay.

00:30:51.840 Hold on.

00:30:53.020 Hold on.

00:30:53.560 I spotted in that last stacks of soy that tall with a man bun, by the way.

00:30:59.200 I know he's got a man bun. 0.50

00:31:00.620 Throw up one on one.

00:31:01.800 I spotted this when you played it last time, Charlie.

00:31:04.340 That's a man bun. 0.55

00:31:05.560 I mean, if there's.

00:31:08.900 Are you sure this was not in Boulder, Colorado?

00:31:11.440 Are we sure this was not in Boulder?

00:31:13.400 I think it's I think half the the men in Boulder, Colorado have man buns and cowboy boots.

00:31:19.960 And Patagonia jacket.

00:31:21.840 It's Dan Boulder.

00:31:22.800 Sorry if you're listening in Boulder.

00:31:24.080 It's just.

00:31:24.520 No, it's a unique it's a unique portion of hell.

00:31:28.640 So, no, but Andrew.

00:31:31.560 No, there's there's a lot dynamics.

00:31:33.360 Let's just let's just remind ourselves. 0.96

00:31:35.260 This is a black cop he's telling it to. 0.88

00:31:38.340 And and she she just she finds she's like, wait, but did he not do it?

00:31:42.260 But first, let's just go back to the facts.

00:31:44.120 He called the cops.

00:31:45.660 So obviously he can't handle himself.

00:31:48.200 Obviously, he felt threatened.

00:31:49.400 Like, OK, fine.

00:31:50.120 Call the cops.

00:31:50.620 It's the right thing to do.

00:31:51.560 And then he intervenes in what could only be described as a trained response.

00:31:57.800 This is not normal.

00:31:59.040 Somebody taught him to have this kind of Pavlovian response.

00:32:01.800 Right.

00:32:02.480 Exactly, Jack.

00:32:03.280 This is conditioned.

00:32:04.320 Right.

00:32:04.900 This was something through years of initiation, years of incantation, years of training, this,

00:32:12.920 that, this, that, that he was he was made for a moment like this.

00:32:16.260 He went to the halls of Brown to be prepared that one day he could say, I don't know what

00:32:23.880 they were going through.

00:32:25.160 I don't know his condition. 0.93

00:32:26.200 By the way, what an unbelievably racist thing to say that every time you see a black person,

00:32:30.840 you assume that they're in poverty and they're struggling like, oh, I don't know what they're

00:32:34.800 going through. 0.99

00:32:35.500 And they or maybe he's just a lunatic. 0.99

00:32:38.960 Jack Posobiec. 0.98

00:32:39.680 Well, Charlie, there's also right.

00:32:41.260 So that's also part of the the learned helplessness and the conditioned response here from the left,

00:32:45.680 because, again, remember, and I talked about this a lot going back to the Supreme Court when

00:32:50.100 Kataji Brian Jackson came in, because when we remember when she was giving those those light

00:32:55.100 sentences to pedophiles and specifically some of the ones that she was talking about were saying

00:32:59.580 we're all talking about the person's background, the person's what they went through, what they

00:33:06.200 were going through in life.

00:33:07.300 This is a different way of looking at criminal justice.

00:33:11.580 It is a way that is preached by the institutional left.

00:33:14.740 It's a way that's also beyond universities and that system.

00:33:18.040 It's pushed through mainstream media.

00:33:20.200 It's this idea that there are two classes of society.

00:33:22.760 It's inherently Marxist.

00:33:23.820 One is the oppressor class.

00:33:25.280 One is the oppressed class.

00:33:26.400 So if you adhere to that worldview, then any belief, right, anything that occurs from the

00:33:33.420 oppressed class is through their response to oppression by the uppers, by the, you know,

00:33:41.260 by the boards, whatever it is, right, whatever that oppressor class is.

00:33:44.520 And he, as a white colonizer, therefore, is feeling the white guilt of bringing down 0.58

00:33:50.400 more oppression on someone who's clearly even oppressed their entire life. 0.98

00:33:53.340 Even while he's literally trying to kill your family with a knife right now.

00:33:57.380 And so that's a trained response.

00:33:59.480 But, but, but let's now go again. 0.99

00:34:01.580 He was, he was a total moron about this, but if he would have done this a little bit differently, 0.99

00:34:06.980 let's say he would have went to the cop and been like, yo, I really don't want to be involved 0.99

00:34:11.580 in this.

00:34:12.420 You know, I didn't know he's going to get arrested.

00:34:14.420 I'm not filling out a form.

00:34:15.520 And he just walked away, but he showed his card.

00:34:19.460 But what if the real card was not that?

00:34:21.640 What if the real card was what he said was that I didn't want him to think, what if he

00:34:26.680 was afraid of doxing cancellation, losing his job the same way of what happened in central,

00:34:33.200 but not the central park five.

00:34:34.320 We're not going to talk about it this week, but central park Karen.

00:34:36.880 Remember the story, the birdwatching thing?

00:34:38.860 I'm a little rusty on the details.

00:34:40.260 So, so there's multiple, there's multiple elements here.

00:34:42.980 There's the, the central park, uh, birdwatcher.

00:34:46.360 There's the more recent, uh, story with the girl that was fighting with the black youths,

00:34:52.320 uh, for the, for the bike to rent the bike, the pregnant lady at the hospital. 1.00

00:34:57.100 And then she ended up getting, you know, at least put on leave because she did that. 1.00

00:35:01.360 And then don't, don't forget Daniel Penny, right?

00:35:04.040 I mean, the whole Daniel Penny thing plays into it.

00:35:06.120 It's a different scenario, but this is social conditioning.

00:35:08.840 Like this trains people to respond a certain way.

00:35:12.020 Yeah.

00:35:12.500 Well, no.

00:35:12.820 So the point is maybe the guy's just fricking got an IQ of 150.

00:35:16.640 He realizes this thing could go viral and he just like got himself out of it.

00:35:21.500 I don't know.

00:35:22.040 You know, like he, he literally was like, I'm not going to lose my job.

00:35:25.140 Maybe he's got a, maybe he's got a house with six kids at it and he's got to keep his

00:35:28.460 job.

00:35:28.780 And he, he instantly like clued in.

00:35:30.960 I mean, Jack, probably not, but it was actually smart in that way, which is sad.

00:35:36.620 It's sad that that's the society we live in.

00:35:39.180 Well, he's being praised by people on the left.

00:35:40.660 So Jack, remind us of Central Park Karen.

00:35:43.320 Right.

00:35:43.740 So the Central Park Karen, and this was that interesting case where both of them had the

00:35:47.960 same last name and though they were completely unrelated, uh, Christian Cooper and Amy Cooper.

00:35:52.280 Um, she brings, okay.

00:35:55.100 In the video, in the video, we see that a woman is, is with a black man.

00:36:01.280 She's calling the police on the black man saying, this guy threatened me.

00:36:04.480 I'm here alone in the park.

00:36:06.220 I'm with my dog.

00:36:07.480 He is, he is threatening me.

00:36:09.140 He's making threatening comment, threatening gestures.

00:36:11.080 I feel unsafe.

00:36:11.740 I'm calling the police.

00:36:12.660 He starts filming her saying she's calling the police because I'm a black man.

00:36:17.100 Um, and I tried to tell her to put the dog's leash on because this, and keep in mind, this

00:36:21.900 is during the height of COVID.

00:36:23.360 This was right around the same time.

00:36:26.140 It was like the same day.

00:36:28.400 Yeah.

00:36:29.280 I think it was the same day to be honest.

00:36:31.080 Um, May 25th.

00:36:32.320 Right.

00:36:32.940 Uh, but then the video came out a little bit later.

00:36:35.540 And so, uh, all this is going on, but of course, just like with any viral video, you

00:36:41.180 have to play that game, what happened 30 seconds before.

00:36:45.840 And so the, this whole thing goes off and obviously this is what we're going to get into.

00:36:50.560 She gets doxxed. 0.97

00:36:52.100 She loses her job.

00:36:53.520 Uh, she loses the dog at one point, eventually gets the dog back because the dog is, is unadopted

00:36:59.080 by her, by the adoption agency.

00:37:00.520 It's actually taken back.

00:37:01.760 The gentleman involved in all of this, this guy who, who accused her of being racist,

00:37:07.300 is Christian Cooper, uh, he's getting a TV show now for birdwatching on, I want to say

00:37:13.320 it's Nat Geo.

00:37:15.160 Uh, I don't see it here right now, but it's, yeah, it's one of those, um, one of those networks.

00:37:20.000 And the dirty little secret is, is that guy in the early days, and I've got it, I've got

00:37:25.420 it screenshotted because I go, because I always keep the receipts.

00:37:28.200 He admitted later on Facebook that before he filmed the video, he said that he was going

00:37:33.400 to take her dog from her and he said, I keep special things in my pockets to make dogs

00:37:40.060 come and you're not going to like what happens if I need to use them.

00:37:44.060 So he admitted on his own Facebook that he threatened her, right?

00:37:46.860 That's obviously threatening language, obviously threatening the dog.

00:37:50.360 She calls the police because she's feeling threatened and it doesn't matter because the

00:37:54.840 entire hate mob and even us, like we're all guilty of it because we still all refer to

00:37:59.840 it as the Central Park, Karen.

00:38:02.400 Hey, I just want to, I want to quickly say that I'm getting some support in the chat about

00:38:07.400 my Boulder take.

00:38:08.840 They said it's 20, uh, BG Lent says Boulder is 27 square miles surrounded by reality.

00:38:15.180 They aren't, and then Freewell is not reality.

00:38:18.260 That's not true.

00:38:19.280 Well, fine.

00:38:20.540 Uh, Freewell 75 says they aren't listening in Boulder.

00:38:23.440 That's why I left Colorado.

00:38:24.740 My state got broken.

00:38:26.180 Amen, brother.

00:38:26.980 Charlie and I have literally, I mean, how many texts have we exchanged about both?

00:38:31.920 I want to call on Blake in a second, but the reason that we don't like that whole corridor

00:38:35.640 up there, right?

00:38:37.120 Boulder, Westminster is that you have the most disgusting Silicon Valley people that then 0.95

00:38:43.400 aesthetically appropriate Colorado mountain culture.

00:38:46.520 I'm like, dude, you can't pitch a tent, like stop wearing flannel.

00:38:49.940 Like the whole, like you don't not know what to do with those boots.

00:38:52.620 Okay.

00:38:52.900 And those hiking shoes, they all, and they, they all have boots.

00:38:56.720 And they cut, they come in to Starbucks and like three months ago, they were working

00:39:01.540 in Menlo park and they got reallocated to some data center that just got built, you

00:39:05.940 know, right there in Westminster, Westminster, a broom field on the way to Boulder.

00:39:09.560 Like I'm a mountain man.

00:39:10.580 Like, no, you're not actually like you, you, you can't boil water to save your life in Rocky

00:39:15.820 mountain national park, pal.

00:39:16.980 Blake, your thoughts, not on that.

00:39:18.840 That's, that's, I, I just found the exact thing, by the way, I found the exact thing

00:39:25.200 Christian Cooper said, which this is literally what he posted on Facebook himself.

00:39:28.720 And we wouldn't even have the evidence for it.

00:39:30.560 Otherwise, it was like the guy, the, the, the Christian Cooper guy, the guy who has his

00:39:34.940 own TV show on national geographic and he's like, look, she was, he asked her to leash

00:39:41.200 her dog or something.

00:39:42.040 And she told him to buzz off.

00:39:43.800 And he said, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're

00:39:48.580 not going to like it.

00:39:49.920 And then he beckoned the dog toward him with a dog treat.

00:39:53.460 And so I just feel it was like very rational to think that he was going to try to poison

00:39:57.600 the dog.

00:39:58.880 And right.

00:40:00.120 That's basically what set her off by his own admission.

00:40:02.620 And then, yeah, as you said, she lost her job and there was a whole genre of videos that

00:40:07.100 started happening that summer.

00:40:08.400 I don't have it in front of me, but there was one where this absolute psycho guy stalked

00:40:14.360 a woman back to her home and is like recording her license plate and calling her a Karen. 0.75

00:40:19.400 And she's like screaming for him to go away and trying to cover it up.

00:40:22.580 Cause she knows that this guy can publish the video and ruin her life.

00:40:26.940 Or that Jonathan Pentland guy in, I think it was Columbia, South Carolina.

00:40:31.120 He, there's this guy literally wandering their neighborhood, like sticking his hand down women's

00:40:36.760 shorts and like grabbing babies and try to walk away with them.

00:40:39.880 And the police are just letting this guy roam around all the time.

00:40:43.620 And so he's doing it again.

00:40:45.560 And so one of the neighbors goes to this guy, Jonathan Pentland is like, Hey, can you make

00:40:50.840 this guy go away?

00:40:51.520 Cause he's a big tough army guy.

00:40:53.380 And so he confronts him, tells him to get out of their neighborhood cause he's not from 0.99

00:40:56.700 around there.

00:40:57.500 And then that of course gets recorded by a passerby gets denounced by the Obama administration.

00:41:02.180 He ends up getting convicted of assault for shoving a guy and probably as a result messes

00:41:08.340 up his army career.

00:41:09.400 I think he had to get transferred if he wasn't drummed out entirely because he was defending

00:41:14.420 his neighborhood when the cops were literally letting a crazy guy roam around until he'd

00:41:18.680 inevitably try to kill someone, which seems to be what we now have to do, whether it's

00:41:23.000 on a New York subway or anywhere else. 0.97

00:41:25.060 You're just supposed to let crazy nut jobs do whatever they want until, until they literally 1.00

00:41:30.340 kill someone. 0.86

00:41:31.020 Well, and, and, and Blake, by the way, just, I left this out. 0.97

00:41:33.800 I'm looking this up as well.

00:41:35.480 Um, Amy Cooper, the, the central park, Karen, right?

00:41:38.760 Amy Cooper, she was charged. 0.84

00:41:40.740 She was actually charged in New York city for filing a false police report at the time.

00:41:47.060 So this, this hate mob against her, this is two minutes hate.

00:41:50.860 It's straight from 1984.

00:41:52.120 It's straight from Orwell.

00:41:52.960 So when the two minutes hate was directed at her, the government of the city of New York

00:41:57.540 actually filed charges against her for filing a false police report without going into any

00:42:03.500 of the investigation, without looking at the Facebook post, without seeing what had gone

00:42:08.320 down, what had happened.

00:42:09.700 Um, it was eventually completely dropped.

00:42:11.960 Uh, they dropped the, they dropped all the charges.

00:42:14.320 They went after her.

00:42:15.700 Um, but she did lose her job.

00:42:17.520 She got the dog back, but she could have, she literally could have faced a year.

00:42:22.960 They were in jail if they got the maximum penalty for this.

00:42:25.760 And it was completely false.

00:42:27.220 It was completely false from the start.

00:42:30.860 Okay, guys, let's go to the next topic here.

00:42:32.780 Everybody, uh, anybody we need to mention in the rumble chats, Andrew, uh, forge and anvil.

00:42:38.660 Um, just put $5 forward.

00:42:42.420 So thanks, forge and anvil.

00:42:43.920 I think forge and anvil is a podcast show dedicated to having hard conversations about politics.

00:42:49.260 Okay.

00:42:49.740 From a faith perspective.

00:42:50.440 All right.

00:42:51.180 You got to read them.

00:42:52.160 If you rumble rant, we got to read them.

00:42:54.520 Well, unless you say something regarding bonus holes.

00:42:59.180 Right.

00:42:59.460 So email us.

00:43:00.840 Yeah, there we go.

00:43:02.440 All right.

00:43:03.060 So, uh, it went very viral and like, I'm very honest when I don't know something, I ask questions.

00:43:08.340 I'm not like a politician where I say, oh yeah, uh, I know what that is.

00:43:13.360 So who wants to take this next topic?

00:43:15.900 Cause I have no idea what the heck this is about.

00:43:17.900 I think, I think Jack should explain bonus hole to Charlie.

00:43:22.740 All right, Charlie.

00:43:23.720 So Charlie, so I got, I got the bonus holes, right?

00:43:27.540 Should I Google that too?

00:43:29.260 Don't Google it.

00:43:30.060 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:30.640 I'm just asking.

00:43:31.340 You've heard of bonus holes.

00:43:32.800 You don't, you don't know bonus holes?

00:43:34.760 No, Jack, I, I don't, I don't know much about holes and that whole genre, apparently.

00:43:43.100 A whole genre of holes.

00:43:44.840 Yeah.

00:43:45.020 Charlie, there's, there's a wide.

00:43:46.400 Lory holes, bonus holes.

00:43:48.140 Who has time for a wide cornucopia of holes out there, Charlie, that, and you need to

00:43:52.540 be familiar with all of them.

00:43:54.440 In addition to all the other things that you do with your life, if you're not keeping up,

00:43:59.220 I think that honestly, maybe the next production or the first publication of, uh, of thought

00:44:05.380 crime here could be wholeopedia.

00:44:07.860 And we could be putting together an entire compendium of all of the various holes that we're

00:44:13.520 learning about as we continue our journey through the internet.

00:44:17.220 But here we have a new one.

00:44:18.560 It's called the bonus hole.

00:44:20.780 The bonus hole is, comes to us by way of Joe's cervical cancer trust.

00:44:26.940 What is Joe's cervical cancer trust?

00:44:28.880 You ask.

00:44:29.300 This is funded by the British government, as well as the LGBT foundation, um, described

00:44:37.140 as incredibly important to the work of the government equities office and the advancement

00:44:40.680 of equality in the UK.

00:44:41.960 They ask, well, okay, what does this have to do with bonus holes?

00:44:43.880 So they're a cervical cancer charity recommending that when they make phone calls to trans individuals

00:44:52.340 or perhaps trans identifying individuals, that you may want to use less traditional terminology

00:45:00.060 when referring to the, uh, the part of the female anatomy formerly known as a vagina or, and

00:45:07.340 they, they are now suggesting new terminology be used in, in one case, they suggest perhaps

00:45:13.860 a front hole, you know, as opposed to obviously to the back hole, uh, or the bonus hole, an 0.98

00:45:20.920 alternative word for vagina. 1.00

00:45:22.240 It is important to check which words someone would prefer to use. 0.69

00:45:26.460 So, you know, that's, that's for folks that are making phone calls to about the cervical

00:45:30.300 cancer.

00:45:30.760 They just want to make sure that you're using the right terminology.

00:45:34.420 Jack, a week ago, did you know what this, this term meant?

00:45:38.580 Yeah, no, I had no idea.

00:45:40.260 Um, I actually don't even think this existed.

00:45:42.340 I'm not that out of, I'm not that out of the lingo.

00:45:44.900 This is brand new.

00:45:46.320 Okay.

00:45:46.760 Glory hole.

00:45:47.460 You could mock me all you want.

00:45:48.640 By the way, I'm proud.

00:45:49.560 I didn't know what a glory hole was.

00:45:50.800 Okay.

00:45:51.540 Bonus hole.

00:45:52.280 I mean, now, now we're really pushing the boundaries of decency.

00:45:56.320 Andrew.

00:45:58.860 I mean, I'm just, I'm just, this is like popcorn moment for me.

00:46:03.020 I'm just enjoying the ride here.

00:46:04.380 Um, you know, I think, listen, it's just another assault on our language.

00:46:09.640 Um, it's like one of those things we have to talk on a show like thought crime, but on

00:46:14.480 the other hand, I'm, I'm a little offended that we're even having the conversation.

00:46:18.080 If I'm being honest, like, like, should we give them the, the, the oxygen that we breathe 0.99

00:46:23.400 to even entertain this crap? 0.98

00:46:25.240 I mean, I, I'm, I'm just, you know, we went from like this pride month to this like weekend 0.99

00:46:30.880 of Sodom and Gomorrah that we all saw on the streets of San Francisco and New York and Seattle

00:46:36.480 where like grown men are on the streets, like whipping each other and leather straps and

00:46:40.980 Scott Wiener's out there celebrating it.

00:46:43.480 And, and it's like, what have we become?

00:46:46.940 Like, you know, yeah, this is in London, but it might as well be in America. 0.95

00:46:50.320 We're just as degenerate as they are.

00:46:52.020 And, you know, it's like we're more degenerate with certain stuff than the UK.

00:46:56.580 Yeah, for sure.

00:46:57.820 No.

00:46:58.000 And it just, it's, it's really offensive on some level that, you know, like it's funny.

00:47:03.640 So I, I think it's funny talking about it on another, on another level.

00:47:07.980 I'm just offended that this is like, you know, we talk about the Overton window, right?

00:47:12.880 It's like, it's just another thing that we inject into the zeitgeist that makes us all

00:47:19.400 poor and more despicable.

00:47:21.820 And it's like, go ahead, Jack.

00:47:25.440 No, we, we got a comment in here from, uh, from William Roche.

00:47:29.240 He said, he said the bonus hole monologues.

00:47:32.460 Yes.

00:47:32.680 The bonus hole monologues have begun folks.

00:47:36.040 The bonus hole monologues.

00:47:37.360 And of course, Blake, do you have some sort of hot intellectual take here?

00:47:40.760 I decided to check.

00:47:41.880 Is there some sort of esoteric book you have to mention?

00:47:43.380 I wanted to check if this, if this existed and it turns out it does.

00:47:47.760 So this is a cervical cancer, uh, charity and they've focused with this story on how

00:47:52.760 this is an alternative term for like trans men who I guess they don't want their bonus 0.97

00:47:57.820 hole as it were to be referred to by its old, you know, by its dead name that is for women 1.00

00:48:02.440 only.

00:48:03.340 But I'd heard, I think I'd read about another thing.

00:48:05.920 And so I checked and the Canadian Cancer Society, bring it up on the screen.

00:48:09.740 I have it on the laptop here.

00:48:11.440 Uh, the Canadian Cancer Society has a guide as a trans woman, do I need to get screened

00:48:16.700 for cervical cancer?

00:48:18.140 And they do helpfully point out that if you are a trans woman, that is a biological male,

00:48:23.300 you do not have a cervix.

00:48:25.780 And so you probably shouldn't get screened for it.

00:48:28.420 Although they know that if you have undergone bottom surgery, there is a very small risk

00:48:33.600 that you can develop cancer in the tissue of your neocervix, as they call it, which

00:48:39.660 would not actually be cervical cancer because it's just made out of some other horrifying 0.90

00:48:44.160 biological mess that they use to create it. 0.96

00:48:47.080 But, you know, you can get it checked for cancer too.

00:48:52.280 As a trans woman, you can get it.

00:48:53.960 Neocervix?

00:48:55.220 Neocervix.

00:48:55.680 Oh, or your neovagina. 1.00

00:48:57.040 And you really do not want to know the science about how that, how that is created.

00:49:01.260 Mad science.

00:49:02.080 They cut a, they kind of cut a haunch out of like your thigh to, uh, to manufacture

00:49:08.740 it, I believe.

00:49:10.040 Just the one that comes from the forearm?

00:49:12.240 Or is that different?

00:49:12.680 Actually, that might be, that might be neopenis.

00:49:15.060 Uh, we got, it's easy to get these mixed up.

00:49:17.160 I think actually for the neocervix, they kind of just carve a gash out of your lower torso. 0.64

00:49:22.880 Okay.

00:49:23.340 So it has to be your own skin. 0.97

00:49:24.640 It can't be like, like a prosthetic or something like that.

00:49:27.060 Uh, what's like a, what's the, can you make a prosthetic of like a, of a hole, like a

00:49:32.760 void?

00:49:33.840 Your prosthetic void?

00:49:35.040 Yeah, sure.

00:49:35.600 You can make a prosthetic of anything, Blake.

00:49:38.080 I guess, I guess.

00:49:39.480 And then, you know, to keep it from filling in like a wound, you have to, you know, you

00:49:43.800 have to do, you have to use those dilators to keep them from closing up.

00:49:46.700 It's, it's pretty horrifying.

00:49:48.440 That's true.

00:49:49.320 That's true.

00:49:49.700 Does Charlie know what that is?

00:49:51.200 Have we taught him that vocab word yet?

00:49:53.460 Wait, that's not even.

00:49:55.000 That's not even novel.

00:49:57.880 That's like, that's like old, that's old lore at this point.

00:50:00.340 The dilators, Charlie, do you know about those for, for this lovely trans anatomy? 1.00

00:50:07.460 No.

00:50:08.420 Oh, well, you see, when you, when you make a trans woman, uh, they're, they're new. 1.00

00:50:13.580 If you give them bottom surgery, it turns out that when you make a like fake vagina by just 1.00

00:50:18.400 carving a gash in someone's torso, your body surprisingly, your body surprisingly thinks that this is just 0.92

00:50:24.140 a giant open wound and tries to heal it.

00:50:27.000 And so the only way you can keep your body from, you know, waging war on your real identity of,

00:50:32.200 as a trans person is to literally stick a gigantic, you know, what up your, uh, up your 0.99

00:50:38.660 neo vagina to keep it from closing up. 1.00

00:50:40.640 And you have to do this for hours a day when you first get it. 0.99

00:50:43.260 And basically you have to do it forever.

00:50:45.040 Otherwise it closes up.

00:50:46.080 So now, you know, Charlie, I can't, so is that, is that, that's not technically a bonus

00:50:52.300 hole or it is, it's a, it's a dial later, bonus hole dilator. 0.98

00:50:58.800 That's a neo vagina, Charlie. 1.00

00:51:01.700 New bonus hole. 1.00

00:51:03.040 Be careful.

00:51:03.480 Anyone have any other thoughts on this topic before we move to the next one?

00:51:06.120 No, let's go to the next one.

00:51:07.820 I think, I think, well, the last, the last thing I just have to say is guys, you know,

00:51:11.520 just, you know what they say, um, grab them by the bonus hole.

00:51:18.960 You get extra points.

00:51:21.200 Grab them by the bonus hole should be new bumper stickers for 2024.

00:51:26.000 Wow.

00:51:26.840 All in bonus holes for a bonus term.

00:51:31.020 All right.

00:51:31.700 There you go.

00:51:32.360 Next topic.

00:51:33.060 Next topic.

00:51:34.820 Tom Hanks, niece, Jack, I'll let you drive on this one.

00:51:37.740 Not as caught up on this.

00:51:38.600 Uh, this one, I think Andrew knows more about, to be honest.

00:51:42.280 I haven't watched this yet, but Andrew was digging in, like, researching the Hanks family.

00:51:46.020 Don't pass it to me, Andrew.

00:51:47.180 Please, please take this one.

00:51:48.560 In great detail.

00:51:50.840 All right.

00:51:51.280 All right.

00:51:51.680 This is, this is, uh, sorry, the chat.

00:51:55.640 Okay.

00:51:56.520 Uh, Ryan, let me know what clips these are.

00:51:58.880 Okay.

00:51:59.040 So the backstory here is that there is a show called on ABC that I'd never heard of actually

00:52:05.040 before.

00:52:05.940 As if you weren't watching it live.

00:52:08.600 I was not, um, it's called claim to fame and all the contestants are related to famous

00:52:15.100 people, right?

00:52:15.820 So I guess Whoopi Goldberg, I found this out researching for this segment, uh, Whoopi Goldberg's

00:52:21.460 niece was on it before.

00:52:22.540 And apparently she had a meltdown when she got booted, but you basically have to, you

00:52:26.620 get booted off the show.

00:52:28.020 So if another contestant guests, guesses who you're related to and Tom Hanks's niece, uh,

00:52:35.400 was apparently one of the first people to each competitor has like a famous relative.

00:52:41.660 Is that the idea?

00:52:42.520 Yes.

00:52:43.260 Yes.

00:52:43.680 Okay, exactly.

00:52:44.360 So, so listen, I'll just, I'll throw it to 83.

00:52:47.520 I think it's the best primer for this.

00:52:49.920 Let's go to 83.

00:52:52.520 Carly, I am sad to see you go, but it is time for you to say goodbye to your fellow players.

00:52:56.940 These frickin' clothes are so frickin' obvious. 0.74

00:53:01.780 Frickin' bench, that's a frickin' poster of frickin' Forrest Gump, are you kidding me? 1.00

00:53:06.800 Oh, f***. 0.99

00:53:08.020 She's screaming, she's screaming, she's screaming, she's screaming. 1.00

00:53:09.920 Why a bench?

00:53:11.060 Why a bench?

00:53:12.500 There's literally no reference to benches on any other movie.

00:53:17.460 Even Gabriel found that out.

00:53:19.300 He's not even like smart.

00:53:21.520 For real?

00:53:22.760 That's cold.

00:53:24.120 Ew.

00:53:24.560 I didn't even get to do any challenges.

00:53:28.800 I don't deserve this.

00:53:31.040 I should have more camera time.

00:53:33.040 I should be here longer.

00:53:36.940 Is that even real?

00:53:39.680 I mean, this is-

00:53:40.680 It sounds like she's playing for the camera.

00:53:43.500 Yeah, I don't actually know.

00:53:46.200 I mean, that was extra, extra.

00:53:48.440 So, hey, maybe you guys are right, because The View reacted to this today, which I hate to give them any more airtime, but let's go ahead and play Cut 84.

00:53:58.540 I gotta tell you, I loved the freak out that she had.

00:54:02.500 Mm-hmm.

00:54:02.860 It was such good-

00:54:03.600 Which one?

00:54:03.960 The young lady now?

00:54:05.320 I love both of them. 0.98

00:54:06.220 I love Damara's freak out, too, because she was telling me to kiss her butt and all kinds of stuff, so it was good. 0.95

00:54:09.080 It was different, but she was owning it. 0.97

00:54:10.800 She was not being dragged.

00:54:12.100 Yeah, but this girl, it was just such good television, in my opinion. 0.93

00:54:16.560 I didn't even say any challenges!

00:54:18.000 That was not fair!

00:54:19.620 I was joking to my producer that that's basically me when I get pulled out of a good guest segment.

00:54:23.860 I needed more camera time!

00:54:25.200 That is not even true!

00:54:26.540 It's not.

00:54:27.200 She was a legend.

00:54:28.200 She's going to make that show better. 1.00

00:54:29.380 That was good!

00:54:30.020 She's trying to land a part. 1.00

00:54:31.360 She had two credits, I think.

00:54:33.920 She's good.

00:54:34.980 She should host that show. 0.99

00:54:36.240 So, this is why we get the culture that we have.

00:54:45.160 We're rewarding, by way of the view, this abhorrent behavior by a spoiled rich girl that happens to be related to Tom Hanks, and I find it appalling. 0.56

00:54:55.340 They should put Barron Trump on that show.

00:54:59.320 Everybody would get it.

00:54:59.900 What is he up to, like 6'8", 6'9"?

00:55:01.680 Is this like a big brother redux?

00:55:02.300 No, but he would just dominate them.

00:55:03.700 Is that what this is, basically?

00:55:06.240 Do you, like, win money on this show, or is it literally just, like, people desperate to be on TV?

00:55:10.300 I just looked it up.

00:55:11.160 You can win, yeah, you can win, like, 100 grand, and the idea is that with various competitions that you go through and, you know, you guess certain things about people, like, I've literally never heard about this, you know, until about five minutes ago, that you, you know, that you can reveal more information about the person.

00:55:29.380 And so the idea is, because we live in such a meta self-referential culture right now, that it used to be that you would just go watch a movie or go watch a TV show, and you'd like it.

00:55:38.440 You'd like, you might know the actor, you might recognize them and say, oh, I'm going to go see that actor.

00:55:41.940 I'm going to go see that actress. 1.00

00:55:43.040 I like them.

00:55:43.500 But now everything's meta, so everybody's got to know everything about every little other thing.

00:55:47.820 So you can't just be a person.

00:55:49.340 There's you.

00:55:50.160 There's your family.

00:55:51.340 There's your fans, your stands, et cetera, et cetera.

00:55:55.100 And so when you have something like this, they've got, like, Chuck, I'm just looking through Chuck Norris, Chuck Norris's grandson, Brett Favre's daughter, Al Sharpton's daughter, Tiffany Haddish's sister, Whoopi Goldberg's granddaughter, Dean Martin's granddaughter, Jason Aldean's cousin, the sister of Keke Palmer was on.

00:56:18.700 And, you know, Blake actually might, you know, qualify for this because people may not realize this, but Blake actually is a distant relation to Louis Farrakhan.

00:56:28.840 Wait, what?

00:56:31.700 I think I'm only, like, related to basically, like, dirt farmers in Germany or something.

00:56:37.560 I have, like, the least distinguished pedigree of all time.

00:56:40.940 Well, I mean, if you're just going to talk about Farrakhan that way, he did lead the Nation of Islam.

00:56:45.180 That's fair.

00:56:46.920 Hold on.

00:56:47.360 All right, we're missing the big E on the eye chart.

00:56:50.060 This lady literally threw a freakout on national TV, one of the most objectively horrible reactions you could possibly have. 1.00

00:56:58.680 And Alyssa Farrah, who worked at the Trump White House, who's a total Judas, nevertheless said, this woman's a legend. 1.00

00:57:06.860 And then the other guys chime in, like, she should host the show.

00:57:10.540 What the hell is wrong with our country?

00:57:13.440 Well, Alyssa Farrah, of course, is a daughter herself.

00:57:16.100 What's that?

00:57:17.500 She's the daughter.

00:57:18.700 Alyssa Farrah is the daughter of Joseph Farrah, who ran World Net Daily.

00:57:21.640 So she already was somebody who got in in an act of nepotism because her father was—now, I wouldn't say World Net Daily is considered a mainstream source.

00:57:31.060 They usually get tagged with everything they throw at anyone who's grassroots.

00:57:35.300 But she was able to get into politics because of her father.

00:57:42.040 Obscene.

00:57:42.780 The whole thing's obscene.

00:57:44.540 Charlie, you don't want to raise your daughter that way.

00:57:46.100 Yeah, but it just goes to show—

00:57:46.640 Well, no, and we won't, God willing.

00:57:49.220 But it just goes to show what is rewarded, right?

00:57:53.220 It's very similar to—

00:57:54.440 Well, we're kind of rewarding it right now, aren't we?

00:57:55.920 We've talked about this person for, like, six minutes more than we would have ever talked about her if she hadn't had a gigantic meltdown on national television.

00:58:03.840 But not in a good way.

00:58:04.820 Yeah, but we wouldn't be talking about her if she did—

00:58:07.620 There's no such thing as bad publicity if you're, like, a Z-tiered celebrity relative. 0.94

00:58:12.340 Tell that to the Zodiac Killer or, like, yeah, there is some bad publicity.

00:58:15.720 I mean, you know—

00:58:17.340 Jack, you bring up an interesting point.

00:58:19.380 We're against Ted Cruz now?

00:58:20.280 Yeah, you can get elected to the Senate if you do that.

00:58:22.440 It's a vow.

00:58:24.100 Hold on.

00:58:25.000 Jack, you bring up an interesting point, actually.

00:58:27.300 Because I was actually talking about this today in our chat.

00:58:31.020 Do you know that the—

00:58:33.480 Charlie made me—

00:58:34.680 Because Charlie changed our second-hour intro music to the Bowls song, you know?

00:58:40.760 I'm subconsciously bringing back the 90s.

00:58:42.960 Yes.

00:58:43.320 The excellent—

00:58:43.960 The 90s Bowls.

00:58:44.500 The culture of dominance.

00:58:46.300 So I've been watching The Last Dance again.

00:58:49.540 I hadn't watched it since COVID, right?

00:58:51.520 Isn't it beautiful?

00:58:52.740 I watch it once a year.

00:58:54.540 A tradition every year.

00:58:55.580 It's amazing.

00:58:56.640 It's amazing.

00:58:58.060 So I'm watching it.

00:58:59.180 So I'm in this, like, big Jordan kick.

00:59:01.160 Did you know that Michael Jordan's son, Marcus Jordan, is dating Scottie Pippen's ex-wife, who also is an OnlyFans girl?

00:59:12.660 And Michael Jordan's apparently totally fine with it.

00:59:15.620 Wait, what's the age gap there?

00:59:17.960 Like, 16 years.

00:59:21.440 But in the opposite direction.

00:59:22.500 But do you want to think about something even weirder, is that it was likely that Scottie Pippen's wife was in the press box when, like, little Michael Jordan would walk in.

00:59:32.940 And, like, they knew each other since he was a kid.

00:59:35.620 Somebody should look it up.

00:59:37.080 I don't think they were married during the 90s run.

00:59:40.080 I don't think they were married.

00:59:40.760 I think this is like a—

00:59:41.820 No, he was, like, eight years old during the 90s run.

00:59:44.760 The point is that she knew him, likely, as a toddler.

00:59:47.720 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:48.200 That's even weirder.

00:59:49.500 That's super weird.

00:59:49.920 I don't think Pippen was married to this woman during the 90s run.

00:59:53.080 Somebody should look it up.

00:59:54.180 But literally, this woman has an OnlyFans page.

00:59:58.420 And she has blabbed to the press about, like, Scottie and her sex life and all this stuff.

01:00:04.840 And Jordan is apparently completely fine with it.

01:00:07.320 Like, I'm telling you, like, it is very difficult to stay normal and grounded when you're, like, a celebrity of any level, right?

01:00:16.640 I mean, and Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan were larger than life in the 90s and, you know, in the 2000s.

01:00:24.260 Yeah, so his wife—wait, which wife is the one that Michael Jordan's—which one is it?

01:00:29.960 Is it Larsa?

01:00:30.960 Yeah, no, Larsa was—yeah, no, Larsa was married to Scottie during the 90s.

01:00:35.760 Hold on.

01:00:37.920 Yeah, it's Larsa.

01:00:40.780 I refuse to learn more about this on moral principle. 0.99

01:00:46.780 Scottie Pippen has become such a bum.

01:00:48.660 And it's so sad for me to say that because I'm, like, the biggest Bulls fan ever.

01:00:53.460 I think the 90s Bulls—I mean, The Last Dance, first of all, it is objectively an exceptional cinematic product.

01:01:01.240 Right, Brian?

01:01:01.800 It's one of the best things—it's unbelievable.

01:01:03.180 The music, the cinematography, the behind-the-scenes, the way they tell the story.

01:01:08.220 And I just love it as a Chicago guy because I'm looking back through it, and it's so personal to me because—how do I best explain this?

01:01:16.100 It's—you're raised with this folklore and these stories, and then all of a sudden you see it in a documentary form.

01:01:24.380 Very, very powerful.

01:01:25.460 And it's really special.

01:01:27.200 But Scottie Pippen—sorry, go ahead, Andrew.

01:01:30.560 No, I'm just—go ahead, Charlie.

01:01:32.760 I got a note on—

01:01:33.740 Scottie never recovered from failing to win a title with the Trailblazers.

01:01:37.680 But here's the thing about Scottie Pippen.

01:01:40.080 That's the thought crime on Scottie Pippen.

01:01:41.940 He's an above-average basketball player.

01:01:43.860 He's not an exceptional one because he was able to be a very good basketball player because Michael Jordan demanded double coverage.

01:01:50.900 He demanded the entire game plan alterations, that Scottie Pippen, being a 6'8", small forward, right, was able to then all of a sudden cut, dash, have one-on-one matchups that were pretty advantageous and favorable to him that they otherwise wouldn't have had.

01:02:06.660 When Scottie Pippen went to the Trailblazers, all of a sudden they're like, yeah, this Scottie Pippen guy's not that good.

01:02:11.800 The Scottie Pippen guy can't really do much when he gets the best defender.

01:02:17.100 I disagree somewhat.

01:02:18.060 No, no, the evidence is this.

01:02:20.180 Pippen was not that great when Jordan went to play baseball.

01:02:23.400 Pippen was not able to—

01:02:24.700 No, he was not able to carry the team.

01:02:26.700 They took the semifinals in the East to Game 7.

01:02:30.160 I just watched the episode yesterday.

01:02:32.020 No, no, not without Michael.

01:02:33.040 They almost got through the Knicks.

01:02:34.500 Yeah.

01:02:34.680 No, no, not without Michael.

01:02:35.460 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:02:36.660 You can fact-check me on this.

01:02:37.920 They barely—

01:02:39.000 Michael was on that team.

01:02:41.840 They did not—

01:02:42.860 When Michael went to go play baseball, huh?

01:02:45.560 Yeah, he came back.

01:02:48.060 And they were—

01:02:49.180 Wait, what?

01:02:50.180 When he came back playing 45.

01:02:51.420 Yeah, he came back playing 45.

01:02:52.840 No.

01:02:53.280 You can fact-check me on this.

01:02:54.420 But when Michael came back, they barely made the playoffs and then lost in the first round.

01:02:58.740 And then Michael went back to training.

01:03:00.940 But go ahead.

01:03:01.440 Disagree, Andrew.

01:03:02.640 I don't know if it was the first round.

01:03:04.080 I thought it was the second round they took the Knicks to Game 7.

01:03:06.340 And they lost in Game 7.

01:03:08.180 I'm almost positive of that.

01:03:10.300 That they played—I know they played the Knicks.

01:03:12.040 Michael was in the stand.

01:03:12.700 Andrew's right.

01:03:12.800 So they went—they went 55-27, which was good for third in the conference.

01:03:18.340 And then they lost to the Knicks in the semifinals in seven games.

01:03:22.420 That was the season—

01:03:23.160 Without Michael.

01:03:23.660 Without Jordan.

01:03:24.420 And then he came back the next year, and they lost in the playoffs that year, too, in

01:03:28.080 his, like, half season.

01:03:29.740 Yeah.

01:03:30.400 But we'll always have Scottie Pippen in NBA Jam, which was sweet.

01:03:34.520 Yeah, he was like the Michael Jordan of NBA Jam.

01:03:37.040 Yeah.

01:03:37.940 So get—but here's the really offensive part.

01:03:41.620 Okay, so Marcus Jordan is talking about this.

01:03:45.400 Apparently, they have a podcast.

01:03:46.300 And he's talking about it.

01:03:47.300 He says, I never—and he gets asked, do you have a problem with the fact that she

01:03:51.320 has an OnlyFans account?

01:03:53.240 And he goes, I would never want to block your success or well-being.

01:03:57.920 Like, how do you—

01:04:03.120 Can we just talk about how repulsive OnlyFans is?

01:04:05.000 Can we just do, like, a tangent on that?

01:04:07.080 Yeah. 0.51

01:04:07.240 It's one of the trashiest new trends out there.

01:04:11.220 Now, I don't know if it's how new it is. 0.96

01:04:12.400 I mean, it's—prostitution is the world's oldest profession.

01:04:15.380 But it basically is digital prostitution.

01:04:17.780 Is that fair to say, Jack?

01:04:19.440 Well, I mean, we should really ask Blake.

01:04:21.420 I mean, he's been on OnlyFans for a couple years now, right?

01:04:23.780 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

01:04:25.280 Like, you know, you've been very successful.

01:04:30.860 And I wouldn't stand in the way of your success, Blake.

01:04:33.240 You know, we should just handle OnlyFans the way we should handle a lot of this. 0.98

01:04:36.500 We should just arrest the proprietors of it and give them the death penalty. 0.95

01:04:40.460 That would solve a lot of things. 0.99

01:04:44.980 Amazing. 0.83

01:04:45.920 The straight, straight death penalty.

01:04:47.580 That's a different kind of hole, isn't it?

01:04:49.300 We should conserve—you know, we've talked about bonus holes.

01:04:52.060 I just feel society would be improved if we radically expanded the number of people having, like, bonus holes added to them by a firing squad.

01:05:00.360 And that would include the OnlyFans proprietors.

01:05:02.680 It would include the guys at MindGeek who run, like, every porn site.

01:05:05.720 And, you know, it would probably include, like, a large share of, you know, various, you know, Antifa criminal elements who burned down police stations.

01:05:15.680 And then things would be better in America.

01:05:17.200 But we can't always get what we want.

01:05:20.440 One day, Blake.

01:05:21.220 So what you're saying is that you signed up there to infiltrate, right, and then go undercover to basically find the proprietors to begin with.

01:05:30.800 You know, we can't give the details on all of our secret missions, Jack, you know, even with our valued audience here on Rumble.

01:05:39.280 We have to maintain up that.

01:05:40.740 But the thing is, wasn't OnlyHands trying to, like—were they trying to rebrand, like, a year or two ago?

01:05:46.320 So—because I think originally—

01:05:48.240 Yeah.

01:05:48.580 No, they got smashed on.

01:05:49.240 Well, even when they—even early in OnlyFans, they would brand it, like—

01:05:52.440 It was supposed to be for, like, photography for something.

01:05:53.720 They would try to make it, like, be, oh, you know, musicians can use it to interact with their fans, OnlyFans, or, you know, other celebrities.

01:06:01.240 And then it was just—it was kind of everyone immediately realized, wait, this is just—this is clearly for porn.

01:06:06.220 And, obviously, that's what succeeded with it.

01:06:08.960 And, you know, here we are today.

01:06:10.220 No, it's pretty sad because we live in a culture now where we—just to go back to those comments from Pippen, right?

01:06:20.100 We live in a culture where we say that's empowering, right?

01:06:22.560 That's empowering to women to be an OnlyFans. 1.00

01:06:24.900 What happens when your kids find out that you had an OnlyFans? 0.90

01:06:27.760 What happens when your grandkids find out you had an OnlyFans, right? 0.56

01:06:32.820 That stuff's going to be out there forever.

01:06:34.940 And guess what?

01:06:36.040 Those kids never had an opportunity to say, Mommy, don't do that, or I don't want Mommy to be doing something like that. 0.97

01:06:43.380 And, obviously, men are certainly just as bad as going into it.

01:06:48.340 But we live in a culture now where we say that's empowering, but we don't say getting married and having a family is empowering.

01:06:55.040 And it's completely upside down.

01:06:56.320 Well, by the way, Jack, did you see that the new stat from Pew was that a record 25% of 40-year-old Americans have not gotten married?

01:07:07.440 Record 40%.

01:07:08.720 Like, in 1980, that number was 6%.

01:07:12.360 It's 25% of 40-year-olds, I believe.

01:07:15.520 That's what I said.

01:07:16.220 I said it a different way.

01:07:17.660 Yeah, I apologize.

01:07:18.860 Yeah, 25% of 40-year-old Americans.

01:07:21.400 One in four 40-year-olds have never been married.

01:07:23.860 And that number was 6% in 1980.

01:07:27.240 Right, and that's because millennials are now hitting 40. 1.00

01:07:30.060 They're married to OnlyFans. 1.00

01:07:32.160 And they're married to OnlyFans. 0.86

01:07:33.860 They're simps, paypigs, whatever you want to call them. 1.00

01:07:37.800 More terminology.

01:07:40.200 And fin-dom, fin-dom relationships.

01:07:43.840 And, basically, you've got this situation where it's also something where – and, Charlie, I think you could appreciate this.

01:07:51.140 Because when pornography became more accessible to men, if you notice, society itself became much slower, much less actual progress was able to be had.

01:08:06.780 Innovation became harder.

01:08:08.400 And why?

01:08:08.740 Because, well, men were always pushing those things because they were in search of that.

01:08:14.700 Well, in search or they might not have had that.

01:08:18.320 There's a really powerful chapter in one of the most popular books ever written on success by Napoleon Hill.

01:08:23.680 It's called Think and Grow Rich.

01:08:24.800 And there's an entire chapter, and it's provocatively received – it's provocatively written and not really well received by a lot of people, but I think it's totally true.

01:08:33.080 And it's all about the sex energy in the male and that if you want to build a business, you can understand how much life force there is in the sex energy of males.

01:08:40.960 And I think everyone who's a man totally understands this, right?

01:08:43.540 But if you remove that completely from a society, you're going to get less innovation, less entrepreneurship, less business startups, and you're also going to get terrible outcomes when it comes to drug usage and to opioid addiction, and your society starts to completely and totally collapse.

01:09:01.740 Yeah, there's a whole chapter called, I think, Sexual Transmutation in Napoleon Hill's book Think and Grow Rich on that.

01:09:07.020 Hey, I got a chat, I think, that's really interesting, actually, from Ooga Booga, if I can find it again. 0.99

01:09:18.700 Ooga Booga says, yes, porn has something to do with it, but 40-plus years of male-hating feminism creeping into the TV ads showing men as idiots has a lot to do with it. 1.00

01:09:28.620 And that actually resonates, right? 1.00

01:09:30.180 Oh, yeah.

01:09:30.380 Because, Charlie, you always bring it up at events.

01:09:33.740 You'll be like, at the Young Women's Leadership Summit in Dallas, you said, how many of you are struggling to find women that are men that are worth dating?

01:09:41.340 And it was like half the room went up.

01:09:43.980 That's right.

01:09:45.120 And I think this has a lot to do with it.

01:09:47.260 And every time, yeah, it's like the male-hating in TV ads.

01:09:50.720 It's like any time a white male is in an ad, they're mentally enfeebled and incapable of doing literally anything at any time.

01:09:57.860 This happens in the new Indiana Jones, too, so I'm not going to drop all in total spoilers, but he gets totally emasculated by this woman who's like the new, you know, it's not his daughter, it's like his friend's daughter, but it's basically, you know, his daughter in the film.

01:10:13.520 And here's Indiana Jones, and there are, I guess, some scenes where they go back in time and they use the de-aging CGI on him, but it's the same situation.

01:10:22.680 That new Hollywood will not allow any of the old characters that people liked, that people watched as heroes, just regular heroes in the 1980s, to not be emasculated or make them go woke.

01:10:36.680 They'll bring them forward.

01:10:37.520 This is what we call Yellowstoning as well.

01:10:39.560 It's the same idea that you must depict any act of masculinity as being wrong, as being negative.

01:10:47.820 And then on the flip side, they'll also say that the only type of masculinity that you can actually have out there is like the barstool sports.

01:10:57.160 Oh, I'm going to drink.

01:10:58.500 I'm going to eat bacon.

01:10:59.640 I'm going to grill.

01:11:00.900 And that's it.

01:11:01.500 That's what being masculine is.

01:11:02.280 Male-to-male transsexualism.

01:11:04.800 That's my favorite slang term for it.

01:11:07.220 It's like male-to-male transsexual. 1.00

01:11:08.860 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:09.560 We want to be a real man, just all bacon, and we have an assault rifle, and here's a hot woman. 1.00

01:11:16.480 It's basically a black rifle coffee ad.

01:11:22.880 We are a blackout coffee show, just for the record.

01:11:27.120 Hey, Charlie, speaking of which, tell us about Public Square.

01:11:31.040 Yeah, no, they're doing really well.

01:11:33.060 By the way, I don't want to spoil anything, but they're going to have some really big news coming up soon.

01:11:37.360 So keep your eyes peeled on Public Square.

01:11:40.000 Public Square, PBSQ, are four letters you're going to familiarize yourself with.

01:11:43.680 Public Square is amazing.

01:11:44.760 Public Square is your compass, your navigational tool for the parallel economy.

01:11:49.340 I visit my Public Square app when I'm traveling, which I've been traveling this entire week, and I make a point to find out what businesses in the local areas I visit are in alignment with our values.

01:12:00.280 We complain, rightfully so, about the woke nonsense that has really infiltrated the American economy, but there are so many alternatives out there, and Public Square has been able to help us find better options, better vendors, and also you can join as a business owner.

01:12:20.500 Jack, your thoughts on Public Square?

01:12:22.660 Oh, I think Public Square is fantastic, and honestly, I think that I know the news that is about to come out.

01:12:29.040 Michael Seifert, of course, was on TimCast last night, and so he was talking about this, but there's something really big that's about to come out.

01:12:38.040 Look, when it comes down to it, when I go to my wife, right, and she says, you know, look, I love you guys.

01:12:44.620 I'm in the movement.

01:12:45.760 I'm in the fight, but I also got two little kids.

01:12:47.860 I'm running around like crazy.

01:12:49.260 I don't know which company is good, which one's bad anymore.

01:12:53.180 It's hard to keep track of every little thing.

01:12:54.940 Obviously, but like Target, people remember, but what's great that she always told me about Public Square was that it's just one place.

01:13:01.980 You can sign right in, super easy to use.

01:13:04.320 It's just like Instagram and either app you would use, and then boom, you can go in and find.

01:13:08.200 Plus, there's deals on it, too.

01:13:09.260 There's deals, there's specials, there's discounts, et cetera.

01:13:11.120 It's really good.

01:13:12.420 Plus, I just want to give them a shout out.

01:13:14.540 When we were starting the show, it was like, boom, called Public Square.

01:13:19.220 Hey, will you support what we're doing on the show?

01:13:21.200 And Public Square was right there for us.

01:13:23.360 So hat tip to the guys at Public Square.

01:13:25.460 So everybody take out your phone and download the Public Square app.

01:13:29.400 That is the call to action.

01:13:30.520 It's free of charge.

01:13:31.240 And they are the exclusive partners of Thought Crimes.

01:13:34.760 And God bless them for wanting to sponsor this show.

01:13:38.380 I don't think.

01:13:40.360 Yeah, go ahead, Jack.

01:13:41.980 No.

01:13:42.340 Well, so I'm looking at the chat here, and I think I'm losing the chat because they're saying, well, what are you saying, Jack?

01:13:48.560 Bacon is good.

01:13:49.580 I love my bacon eating gun toting hubby.

01:13:52.260 Guns are good. 0.98

01:13:52.980 Look, guys.

01:13:53.940 No, you don't.

01:13:55.240 Please don't get it twisted.

01:13:56.880 Obviously, bacon is good.

01:13:58.180 I love bacon.

01:13:59.540 I love my guns.

01:14:00.680 I love all of these things.

01:14:02.000 But what I'm saying is Hollywood and the media are telling you that the only type of masculinity that is acceptable is masculinity as effaced and communicated through these various activities, you know, going in the man cave and drinking a bunch of beer.

01:14:20.000 Whereas actual masculinity could mean staying with your family, not leaving your wife, not sitting and watching porn every night, not sitting and staring at your TV all day long, actually being there for people, leading your family.

01:14:34.560 There's so many types of masculinity that do exist that are completely outside of the commodified barstool sports to do whatever you feel like, bro, kind of masculinity.

01:14:46.460 That's what I'm talking about.

01:14:47.440 I'm not saying that any of one of those individual things are wrong.

01:14:50.500 And in fact, I partake in many of them.

01:14:53.340 OK, now she's saying she was agreeing with me.

01:14:55.140 Now she's saying she was agreeing with me.

01:14:56.240 So we're good.

01:14:56.640 We're good.

01:14:57.640 OK, actually, I will disagree.

01:14:59.580 I love the taste of bacon.

01:15:01.060 I do not like the idea of eating pork.

01:15:03.960 I think that the Hebrews were onto something. 1.00

01:15:06.120 I think it's an unclean animal. 0.95

01:15:07.560 I think it's dirty. 0.57

01:15:08.920 And I'll say this. 0.98

01:15:10.780 The only animal that Jesus had to kick out demonic spirits from or to were to the pigs. 0.94

01:15:19.160 The legion.

01:15:20.160 I mean, the herd of legion.

01:15:22.420 There is no unclean food.

01:15:24.260 That's a New Testament thing.

01:15:25.480 All right.

01:15:25.640 Hey, check this out.

01:15:27.180 We are getting.

01:15:28.060 Hey, do we want to go there?

01:15:29.220 I mean, this is thought crime.

01:15:30.540 People are asking about kosher laws.

01:15:32.580 I just finished Leviticus.

01:15:33.660 People are asking about Black Rifle Coffee.

01:15:35.860 They're like, like, yeah, can Black Rifle Coffee through Rittenhouse under the bus.

01:15:40.340 And yeah, I heard Black Rifle Coffee equals fake conservatives.

01:15:44.000 I don't want to take any stances on it.

01:15:45.740 No, I haven't taken any.

01:15:46.740 I've been on a text chain with, I think, Evan, who runs the company.

01:15:49.460 I'm told he's great.

01:15:50.480 And we've been trying to do something together and he hasn't jumped on it.

01:15:53.320 So let's not do anything negative.

01:15:54.760 And but I don't know why they're so hesitant to want to partner with us.

01:15:58.920 I think they did do a meetup with Kyle Rittenhouse recently or I mean, and just just to be fair, I do.

01:16:04.920 I do think they did something with Kyle recently.

01:16:06.840 So, yeah, I mean, balls in their court, but we get a lot of nasty messages about them, by the way.

01:16:12.960 So, you know who was there for Kyle Rittenhouse who did throw down when everybody was going after him that was there and put the money in and his birthday was yesterday.

01:16:24.920 It was the maven of Minnesota himself, everyone's favorite patriot, Mr. Mike Lindell.

01:16:33.000 That's right.

01:16:33.640 And hey, you know who else was there for him?

01:16:35.800 You know who else was there for Kyle Rittenhouse?

01:16:37.800 Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA.

01:16:39.880 We were there the whole time.

01:16:41.040 We had Kyle on the main stage at AmpFest.

01:16:45.300 We had Kyle on the main stage at AmpFest right after his acquittal.

01:16:49.440 And it was epic.

01:16:50.440 Jack, you were there.

01:16:51.480 You remember.

01:16:52.240 I was on the stage.

01:16:53.380 It was it was the I'll put it this way.

01:16:55.180 It was the only time in any event I've ever been at of all these events.

01:17:01.360 And I've been a million Trump events, et cetera, where I actually got that sense of like the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in the 1960s, where the girls were screaming so much that I'm sitting.

01:17:13.740 It was it was what it was me, then Kyle, then Charlie's on the other side.

01:17:17.140 I couldn't hear Charlie.

01:17:18.540 I couldn't hear Kyle.

01:17:19.780 I couldn't hear anything up there.

01:17:20.880 The girls were screaming so loud. 1.00

01:17:22.900 It's an epic moment.

01:17:24.300 It was an epic moment.

01:17:25.080 It really was an L.

01:17:26.280 It was an Elvis type moment.

01:17:27.600 I want to remind everybody in the audience to please get your tickets to our Turning Point Action Conference, TP action dot com.

01:17:33.720 High IQ Blake will be there doing cameos, selfies and taking dating resumes so you guys could check it out.

01:17:39.020 TP action dot com.

01:17:40.340 Oh, yeah.

01:17:40.660 I'm so glad you cut to him.

01:17:42.240 You just keep it right there as I keep talking about it.

01:17:44.500 Keep it on.

01:17:45.660 Yeah, you have to.

01:17:47.100 So High IQ Blake will be there.

01:17:49.120 And we have Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Steve Bannon, Dan Bongino, Jack Posobiec,

01:17:54.560 Benny Johnson.

01:17:55.380 We have the mayor of Miami, Francis Suarez, who's our third presidential candidate who will be there.

01:18:00.740 We have an invite to every presidential candidate.

01:18:02.780 So, Jack, let's do the Caesars Palace.

01:18:04.580 We have the Vegas music.

01:18:06.280 What music would be?

01:18:07.080 I guess the Presley music would be good as a segue.

01:18:11.420 Jack over under odds.

01:18:12.580 You are running Caesars Palace.

01:18:13.840 Do you think we're going to get more or less or even five presidential candidates at ActCon?

01:18:20.640 I think you get more.

01:18:22.360 I think you definitely get more.

01:18:23.340 I mean, look, Charlie, everybody and their mother is running for president these days.

01:18:27.620 The people are announcing every five minutes.

01:18:29.520 I'd love to see Chris Christie there.

01:18:31.600 I'd love to see Ron DeSantis there.

01:18:34.140 You know who'd be great, by the way, who'd be great, I think, would be more welcomed than people would expect as RFK Jr.

01:18:40.680 Why wouldn't RFK Jr. there?

01:18:42.460 But at the same time, did he just pull out of the Moms for Liberty conference?

01:18:47.560 Did I see that?

01:18:48.320 I don't know.

01:18:49.120 He was going to do it and he's not going now.

01:18:50.920 I have a lot of respect for him.

01:18:52.200 I think he's really great on some of the corporate stuff.

01:18:54.460 Blake has strong opinions against him.

01:18:55.920 That's fine.

01:18:56.320 And we have to remember, he's a Democrat.

01:18:57.760 The counterbalance is good.

01:18:58.820 But no, we did invite him.

01:18:59.880 We did.

01:19:00.580 And I don't think he's going to be able to make it.

01:19:04.140 All right.

01:19:04.960 But his news station last night was fantastic.

01:19:07.700 It was a very good news station.

01:19:08.680 Guys, we have to engage with the chat here.

01:19:09.540 We have someone claiming that they used to have a tryst with Jen Psaki after track practice.

01:19:17.660 In high school?

01:19:18.880 In high school.

01:19:20.260 She had a boyfriend.

01:19:21.980 She seems like a track girl.

01:19:23.700 She had a boyfriend.

01:19:24.620 I had a girlfriend, so we would grudge sex after, during practice.

01:19:29.320 Okay. 0.86

01:19:31.920 Unprovable.

01:19:33.000 Unsubstantiated.

01:19:34.000 Without evidence.

01:19:35.340 A lot of people are saying.

01:19:37.480 A lot of people are saying.

01:19:39.520 So, tpaction.com.

01:19:41.420 We also have Senator Rick Scott confirmed.

01:19:43.900 Senator Ted Cruz confirmed.

01:19:46.060 It's going to be amazing.

01:19:47.520 In fact, we're going to be doing thought crimes live from Florida in two weeks.

01:19:53.900 That's going to be a fun show, isn't it, Jack?

01:19:55.980 We're going to be able to do it in person in Florida.

01:19:58.120 I think that's going to be a fantastic show.

01:20:00.060 Plus, there's some other live shows that I think we're talking about.

01:20:04.440 So, if this one goes well, this will be the first one.

01:20:06.940 And it will probably be a complete mess.

01:20:08.800 Because we're going to be throwing stuff like this out like crazy.

01:20:11.420 I want to do a live Q&A.

01:20:12.820 The same way we're reading the comments right now.

01:20:14.600 I'd love to do a live Q&A on thought crimes.

01:20:17.860 And just put everybody on the spot.

01:20:20.200 Literally ask us anything.

01:20:21.640 Just ask us anything.

01:20:24.140 If you come up to that specific session.

01:20:26.720 I don't even want there to be any actual topic or set agenda.

01:20:30.920 Anything like that.

01:20:31.560 Just come out.

01:20:32.480 But if that one goes well, I think that with everything that's going on in the country,

01:20:38.140 I think we're going to have to do more lives.

01:20:40.380 So, I think we're going to live and in person.

01:20:42.500 Thought Prime live presidential forum.

01:20:45.320 Hey, there's going to be some interesting things we're going at.

01:20:49.060 I saw President Trump last night.

01:20:50.560 Jack, I know you've seen him recently.

01:20:51.700 He looked great.

01:20:52.540 He's got great spirit, vitality.

01:20:54.520 He's in this thing to win.

01:20:56.560 And to his great credit, he's coming to our event.

01:20:59.260 And we'll see if any other candidates decide to show up.

01:21:02.760 Andrew, closing thoughts as we wrap this up.

01:21:04.880 Wait, hold on.

01:21:06.180 We have the deep web reveal.

01:21:07.640 Now, for those, the uninitiated, the deep web reveal is the time of the show where you

01:21:16.860 have to be a total nerd to have picked this up online.

01:21:20.320 And hopefully, we do our research.

01:21:22.120 Now, this one is not so deep that you have to be a total nerd, I think.

01:21:27.480 It's fair enough to say.

01:21:28.380 You don't have to be a total nerd to have picked this up.

01:21:30.220 But it's the deep web reveal.

01:21:31.880 It started as that.

01:21:32.480 It started as a deep web reveal, like a 4chan thing.

01:21:36.180 But it's kind of, it's blossoming.

01:21:38.120 So, Blake, why don't you take the deep web reveal?

01:21:41.120 All right.

01:21:42.180 Our deep web reveal for this week is the shopping cart test.

01:21:46.740 And I believe it literally did start on 4chan around 2020.

01:21:51.240 It might be older than that.

01:21:52.220 But the idea is that you basically can kind of have a yes or no test on whether someone

01:21:57.780 is a salvageable member of society, of our human civilization, based on how they handle

01:22:04.160 shopping carts.

01:22:04.940 And the idea is, go to a grocery store.

01:22:08.520 You have these shopping carts.

01:22:10.080 And you use the shopping cart.

01:22:12.060 You fill it up.

01:22:12.940 You buy your stuff.

01:22:13.820 You take it to your car.

01:22:14.980 And then there is a simple test.

01:22:16.520 Do you return the shopping cart to the little thingamabob that you put them in?

01:22:23.160 Because it's super easy to do.

01:22:25.700 It takes, you know, 20 seconds to do it.

01:22:28.740 No one's going to make you do it.

01:22:30.180 We're not going to fine you if you don't do it.

01:22:33.280 Nothing really bad will happen to you if you don't.

01:22:36.640 But basically, it's a pro-social thing to do.

01:22:38.980 If you do it, you're not making, you're not just leaving a, you know, grocery cart occupying

01:22:43.400 a parking spot or clogging up the lot or whatever.

01:22:47.240 So the question is, is do you return it?

01:22:49.220 And this is like the yes or no question on whether you are a good or bad member of society,

01:22:54.940 as the original meme put it.

01:22:56.640 And this has blown up on Twitter in the last couple of weeks for some reason, as these things

01:23:00.800 do.

01:23:01.580 So is this a correct measure of civilization?

01:23:05.460 I was going to say, I have the writing of the original 4chan is so good.

01:23:10.080 It says, you must return the shopping cart out of the goodness of your own heart.

01:23:16.940 No one will punish you for not returning the shopping cart.

01:23:19.340 No one will fine you or kill you for not returning the shopping cart.

01:23:22.480 You gain nothing by returning the shopping cart.

01:23:25.460 Yet you must return the shopping cart because it is the right thing to do.

01:23:29.200 Because it is correct.

01:23:31.280 A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal.

01:23:35.220 An absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with

01:23:40.520 a law and the force that stands behind it.

01:23:44.600 All right.

01:23:45.120 So we actually have, I don't actually know this guy's name, but I've seen his videos

01:23:49.600 from Barstool.

01:23:50.620 We have this clip.

01:23:51.380 Why don't we go ahead and we'll throw it up and then we can react to it.

01:23:55.160 Returning your shopping cart tests is way overblown.

01:24:00.700 I think that's crazy.

01:24:01.780 The people that think that determines whether you're a good person or not.

01:24:04.540 Yeah.

01:24:04.860 I think it's like, yes, it determines whether or not you like, I think it determines if

01:24:09.060 you go the extra mile for other people.

01:24:10.940 I don't think it determines like anything.

01:24:13.420 You know, I won't date somebody.

01:24:14.960 I won't talk to someone.

01:24:15.860 That is so overblown.

01:24:17.020 Uh, but that's the, I, I, that doesn't bother me one bit.

01:24:23.340 I don't think that's like, I mean, I, I, I wouldn't actually, but just, just when I see

01:24:28.060 the guy like collecting them and it's like, he grabs them from the thing and then he grabs

01:24:31.840 one over there.

01:24:32.280 I'm like, I don't even think he cares.

01:24:33.700 Yeah.

01:24:34.040 I don't even think the guy who you think you're affecting cares, let alone random people.

01:24:38.400 The Barstool man must be given many bonus holes.

01:24:42.580 Bar drool spurts.

01:24:44.820 The bar drool spurts.

01:24:45.500 Yeah, by the way, Barstool became super kucky recently, right?

01:24:48.620 Didn't they do something that was really bad?

01:24:50.960 They let go of that really funny fat guy, right, Brian?

01:24:53.860 Because he said the N word or something.

01:24:56.160 Yeah.

01:24:56.720 I liked that guy. 0.98

01:24:58.300 It's so ridiculous. 0.95

01:24:59.400 So it's like, it's like one of those song lyric situations. 0.96

01:25:01.420 Even, even the pizza man didn't like that.

01:25:03.740 What's his name again?

01:25:05.240 Oh, Portnoy.

01:25:06.140 Yeah.

01:25:06.520 He didn't even like that. 0.98

01:25:07.480 The fat guy got fired. 0.93

01:25:08.740 So yeah. 0.98

01:25:10.060 Yeah.

01:25:10.660 Barstool, Barstool in a lot of ways.

01:25:12.960 So, and Jack actually knows this better than I do, but Barstool is like,

01:25:15.480 it's come to represent like the guys that like you think are on your team.

01:25:19.200 Like you think we're all in this together.

01:25:20.800 And then Barstool, like the minute the going gets tough, Barstool guys,

01:25:25.680 Barstool bros, Barstool conservatives, they just like completely cuck out.

01:25:30.120 So it's like on the one hand, do we have stuff in common with them?

01:25:33.940 Can we get on board with certain takes?

01:25:35.400 Whatever.

01:25:36.160 At the end of the day, they're all social progressive.

01:25:38.260 At the end of the day, that's just the way it is.

01:25:39.880 And they will cuck out on you at the end.

01:25:42.520 Yeah.

01:25:43.040 They're trying to push the whole like fiscal conservative, social liberal kind of space

01:25:50.220 where they'll come in.

01:25:51.500 And I think a lot of people during the COVID lockdowns started to give them a view and

01:25:57.380 they were going on Fox News all the time and were raising money for small businesses,

01:26:00.980 which, you know, obviously we, we all support and we thought that was great.

01:26:04.800 But then they bring people in through this and then through sports, et cetera.

01:26:09.500 And they say, Hey, we're the, this is dude culture.

01:26:11.420 This is bro culture.

01:26:12.520 But then suddenly they'll sit there and go, Hey, you know, I have a problem with abortion.

01:26:16.480 Why you guys, well, you guys got a problem with abortion.

01:26:18.540 What are you anti-women now?

01:26:19.940 And then, you know, it's, it's the same exact type of mindset that'll put you in a place

01:26:24.720 where you're saying, ah, what do you guys get problem with the drag Queens?

01:26:27.260 What do you think?

01:26:27.840 You think there's a problem with the drag Queens? 1.00

01:26:29.400 Well, you think the drag Queens are a threat to you? 1.00

01:26:32.360 What do the drag Queens aren't a threat to you? 1.00

01:26:33.780 And, and they will sit there.

01:26:35.620 How many of these guys have families?

01:26:36.180 I looked at the drag Queens. 1.00

01:26:37.220 She was, she was kind of hot. 1.00

01:26:39.600 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:26:40.240 It's such a stupid, people that make those takes, they, they should be out of public discourse. 0.99

01:26:44.880 No, but how many of these people actually have families that take that, that say this stuff? 1.00

01:26:48.660 I mean, very few.

01:26:50.040 I don't think these people.

01:26:50.920 They seem like the kind of guys who make comedy videos about their vasectomy.

01:26:55.660 Yeah.

01:26:56.120 I mean, it's just, I, I, I've no, I mean, I, apparently they've gone the woke way.

01:27:01.400 Dave Portnoy went out and he was like, oh, you fire the fat guy and you know, it's going

01:27:05.200 to be the end of the company.

01:27:06.340 And yeah, well, there you go.

01:27:07.860 Because they're owned by, they're owned by a casino.

01:27:10.660 They did it.

01:27:12.480 No, you're right.

01:27:13.320 They're owned by a casino or something.

01:27:14.740 Right.

01:27:15.260 That's right.

01:27:15.860 That's right.

01:27:16.340 So what the problem with Barstool is they got bought out for like $600 million, which

01:27:20.460 good for them, you know, hat, hats off.

01:27:23.160 But now they got to, they got to comply with all of this ESG stuff.

01:27:26.600 They got to comply with the corporate governance.

01:27:29.060 So, you know, at the end of the day, their hands are tied.

01:27:31.520 There's only so far they can go.

01:27:32.640 Yeah.

01:27:32.740 They can make some like kind of bro-y comments about pizza and about, you know, joke videos

01:27:38.240 about women, whatever.

01:27:40.720 But at the end of the day, they're, they're never going to be by your side when they go and

01:27:43.860 get stuff.

01:27:44.220 And I think that's the, that's the bottom line.

01:27:46.120 I mean, and so, so I'm going to take that guy's comment and I'm just going to put it

01:27:49.720 over here in my mental box and say, you know what?

01:27:53.400 You're probably just like, you're corporate approved.

01:27:56.120 You're like kind of funny and edgy to a line, but you know where the line is and you're never

01:28:00.240 going to cross it.

01:28:01.280 All right.

01:28:01.960 Well, you know, you're no use to me then.

01:28:04.380 That's how I look at it.

01:28:05.020 I know.

01:28:05.460 I just think I also don't need, and this is just me.

01:28:09.680 Maybe you guys disagree.

01:28:10.600 There was a period of time in my life where I enjoyed sports commentary.

01:28:14.660 I have no desire to consume that content anymore.

01:28:18.020 I mean, I will watch college football and maybe a little NFL, but are you guys in a stage of

01:28:22.660 your life where you actually enjoy people talking about sports as if it's really that complex?

01:28:28.300 And it needs, I feel like I lost it.

01:28:29.860 I feel like I lost it too, Charlie, when ESPN went woke.

01:28:33.320 Yeah, I agree.

01:28:33.860 I used to love the Scott Van Pelt and Stuart Scott and, you know, all this, the kind of

01:28:39.220 the making sports really fun and different edits and making fun of bad, you know, I thought

01:28:44.660 that was really an exciting development in sports as someone who loves the actual magic

01:28:49.420 of, you know, sports and competition and the pursuit of excellence.

01:28:53.860 Now I just, I turn on ESPN and it's like MSNBC with a, with a basketball and like every

01:29:01.020 other host is either lesbian or black and it's like, okay, great. 0.92

01:29:05.240 Okay, fine. 0.98

01:29:06.120 You weren't a fan of the Jameel Hill power hour?

01:29:09.000 No, it's, it's, I find, I don't know.

01:29:13.600 I personally, I find people talking about sports to no longer be interesting to me.

01:29:18.380 Maybe it's just cause I've gotten older and it used to be a thing in high school, but

01:29:20.860 I don't know.

01:29:21.280 Maybe you guys disagree.

01:29:22.060 Do you remember when they fired rush for what he said about Donovan McNabb?

01:29:26.940 Did they fire rush?

01:29:28.680 They did.

01:29:29.320 He was on, I don't remember if it was ESPN or a different network, but he said that he

01:29:35.160 said, he said that they were pushing Donovan McNabb as an NFL star because, uh, I, I would

01:29:41.460 do a rush impression, but I can't do it.

01:29:42.780 But he was that he wanted to, uh, the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed is

01:29:46.980 what he claimed.

01:29:48.320 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:49.040 And his point was that there was a lot of hype behind Donovan McNabb.

01:29:52.280 And I say this as a lifelong Eagles fan.

01:29:55.320 And I remember the entire, uh, Andy Reid, Don McNabb era that rush was right about that.

01:30:01.740 Donovan McNabb was a good quarterback, but he was never a great quarterback and he was

01:30:06.740 never a champion quarterback.

01:30:07.980 And Russia's entire point was that all the hype that the media was giving him was because

01:30:13.620 they wanted him to be this sort of like, because at the time, and now it's not even necessarily

01:30:18.600 the case, but at the time it was like, um, there was this, this idea that there was some

01:30:23.840 sort of like, um, you know, glass ceiling for black quarterbacks and that, you know, 1.00

01:30:28.440 there were no champion black quarterbacks that were going on.

01:30:31.520 And so they were giving this huge push to Donovan McNabb.

01:30:33.800 And so rush was simply, uh, explaining and analyzing the situation.

01:30:39.580 It wasn't commenting on Donovan McNabb necessarily, other than to say that his, his football game

01:30:43.880 wasn't that great, which is true.

01:30:45.800 It is a little weird.

01:30:46.920 So they were like, let's put rush Limbaugh on sports analysis.

01:30:50.860 No, but rush tried to buy an NFL team.

01:30:52.980 Like rush was in the, he was in the mix.

01:30:56.880 Uh, he was, he loved, I mean, I love to, we did know that they blocked, we missed out

01:31:03.240 on like the Frank Caliendo rush impression from him being an NFL owner.

01:31:06.880 So we, that was, that was too bad.

01:31:08.420 No, that'd be really fun.

01:31:09.920 It would have been fun to have him at all the owner meetings.

01:31:11.620 I can do, I can do game day college game day, which I think is one of the great pregame

01:31:18.560 shows.

01:31:18.980 I think that's really fun when they do that from a college and I miss it.

01:31:22.120 I have like a countdown to the first college football game.

01:31:24.220 I can do a little bit, a little bit of the NBC Sunday night football, football night in

01:31:30.540 America, like a little bit.

01:31:32.300 And that's about it.

01:31:33.400 I mean, I just, I, they start these NFL pregame shows like four hours and they're like, and

01:31:39.100 now our exclusive interview with the right tackle of the green Bay Packers, you know,

01:31:43.920 like, okay.

01:31:45.680 And, and, and next, next hour, we have the exclusive interview to the backup punter for the

01:31:51.540 Jacksville Jaguars.

01:31:52.560 How are you preparing for this week?

01:31:54.700 You're going to disagree with this, but I think the best sports coverage on planet earth

01:31:59.680 is, and these are kind of different spectrums of, of the sports like universe is UFC and

01:32:05.500 golf.

01:32:05.920 I'm sorry, but like the, the, the UFC backstories, they hype me up like on Saturday nights.

01:32:11.520 Like I'm ready for the next UFC fight because they, they do such a good job producing like

01:32:16.780 that the conflict, and I know some of it's put on, but you know, what's that?

01:32:21.860 It's great.

01:32:22.580 No, I think UFC is great.

01:32:24.060 Just agree.

01:32:24.420 UFC is amazing.

01:32:25.480 It's an amazing product.

01:32:27.120 I went to UFC fight once.

01:32:28.580 It was unbelievably entertaining.

01:32:29.860 It's, it's legitimately great.

01:32:31.300 Golf is a total waste of time.

01:32:33.260 No golf.

01:32:34.040 Golf is fantastic.

01:32:35.240 If you play the sport though, but I know you and Tucker agree.

01:32:38.560 It's a total waste of time.

01:32:39.620 I kind of agree that it is a waste of time.

01:32:41.600 Okay.

01:32:42.000 You just agree, but I like, I can't, why can't they be hype men in golf?

01:32:46.820 Like why did it, why does it have to be all soporific?

01:32:48.940 And they're like, here's what I will say about the ball.

01:32:51.900 He's got a culture, man.

01:32:54.060 It's a culture.

01:32:54.900 I will say this about golf that I think is really admirable.

01:32:58.240 The mental part of golf is very significant of what these guys have to overcome.

01:33:05.300 I think it's, it's legit.

01:33:07.660 When they, UFC is pretty high too. 0.89

01:33:10.720 Like you get punched in the face.

01:33:11.920 No, I mean, I think, but, but if you said, Charlie, you could watch the masters or you

01:33:17.360 could watch division three football of two winless teams, I would say, where's the division

01:33:23.360 three?

01:33:23.860 I mean, the masters.

01:33:25.580 Oh, great.

01:33:26.580 Now, what about, what about the masters versus the WNBA?

01:33:34.340 Oh, come on, Charlie.

01:33:35.860 The WNBA is a joke. 1.00

01:33:37.460 Every, okay.

01:33:37.900 Thought crime, like the WNBA.

01:33:41.520 He won't say it.

01:33:42.580 Probably, probably the masters.

01:33:43.860 I'd probably, I'd probably say the masters.

01:33:45.420 Thank you.

01:33:46.540 I had to think about, I had to think about. 0.95

01:33:48.340 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:33:49.020 Women shooting layups for two hours, for an hour. 1.00

01:33:51.400 I'm embarrassed.

01:33:53.060 Hey, by the way, KC15 wants us to plug Sound of Freedom.

01:33:57.100 We had an interview on our show about Sound of Freedom.

01:33:59.220 So we're going to do it.

01:34:00.360 Sound of Freedom.

01:34:00.980 Go see it.

01:34:01.420 July 4th.

01:34:02.140 Go ahead, Charlie, Jack.

01:34:03.060 Yeah, I know that.

01:34:04.040 No, it's fine.

01:34:04.620 We're running out of time here, guys, but close it up.

01:34:08.120 No, I was just going to say that, obviously, go see Sound of Freedom, but I was going to

01:34:11.880 say, what if we were able to come up with some sort of forum, maybe as a channel, maybe

01:34:16.440 Rumble could do it, where it's just women's teams versus men's teams the whole time? 1.00

01:34:22.480 How about we make it, let's make a TV show where it's all-star women's teams versus all-star 0.99

01:34:31.840 middle schooler teams in various sports.

01:34:35.040 Right.

01:34:35.160 And then we try to find what the right, you know, what the right ratio is, basically.

01:34:39.960 How low can we go?

01:34:41.240 Like, for the team of all-star fifth graders to it?

01:34:43.240 How far down?

01:34:44.400 How about fourth graders?

01:34:45.820 Ooh.

01:34:47.300 All right.

01:34:47.780 Well, look, you know, we are wrapping up.

01:34:52.680 Mel Gibson, by the way, threw down this morning.

01:34:55.240 You guys saw that right on Sound of Freedom?

01:34:57.540 No, it was great.

01:34:58.320 Mel Gibson is not just a blue chip.

01:35:00.780 He's a AAA blue chip talent.

01:35:02.340 I don't think people realize from Mad Max to Patriot to Braveheart to producing Apocalypto

01:35:07.760 to producing Hackshaw Ridge.

01:35:09.440 I mean, the guy is blue chip AAA.

01:35:11.620 He directed.

01:35:12.120 And I'll say this, Jack, you guys deserve a lot of credit, you pesky Catholics. 1.00

01:35:16.700 You guys have a couple sleeper cells in Hollywood that might just save us.

01:35:20.140 Mark Wahlberg and Mel Gibson are proving to be some pretty legit dudes.

01:35:26.280 They really are.

01:35:27.440 Eduardo Costegui, who produced the film out of Mexico.

01:35:31.520 And it's, what can I say?

01:35:33.740 You know, what can I say?

01:35:34.460 We're been in the game a minute, have a lot of takers, but no winners, no champions.

01:35:42.420 But look, in all seriousness, folks, this is what I want to throw out there.

01:35:46.020 And I was going to save this for tomorrow, but I'll say it here since we're on the subject.

01:35:50.080 I think we need to call this the Sound of Freedom Challenge.

01:35:53.420 And the Sound of Freedom Challenge is this, that you have to go to your friends and you

01:35:58.800 have to go get your friends to go see Sound of Freedom instead of Indiana Jones.

01:36:04.240 Because that also comes out this weekend.

01:36:06.680 Go see Sound of Freedom and you have to get, see who can get the most of their friends,

01:36:10.920 because this is a big part of the Sound of Freedom's marketing pitch, is that it's this

01:36:15.540 pay it forward.

01:36:16.660 See how many of your friends you can get to say no to Indiana Jones and say yes to Sound

01:36:21.800 of Freedom.

01:36:23.860 Very good.

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01:36:31.180 Special thanks to Rumble for broadcasting this conversation.

01:36:34.940 I will be back live at 12 p.m.

01:36:37.660 Eastern tomorrow, 12 to 3.

01:36:39.880 But if you, from 2 to 3, go watch Jack's show, I won't penalize you for that.

01:36:43.760 Jack's show is 2 to 3 Eastern.

01:36:45.780 He does a great job.

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01:36:51.360 Blake, Andrew, Jack, final thoughts?

01:36:53.120 And then we'll wrap it up.

01:36:53.800 You know, Charlie, we're going to have to find new holes to, new holes to, boldly going

01:37:01.700 to holes where no man has gone before.

01:37:05.100 Thought crime.

01:37:08.160 Blake.

01:37:09.120 Blake, do you want to add on to that Star Trek style?

01:37:12.040 I share, I share Jack's pro hole perspective.

01:37:15.400 I think we should also discover as many holes as possible and make Charlie aware of them.

01:37:21.180 So we are, we're a pro-knowledge, pro-hole show.

01:37:25.620 It's a great Shia LaBeouf movie, by the way.

01:37:28.960 All right.

01:37:29.560 My send-off is, it is a great film.

01:37:32.440 And the book is even better, by the way.

01:37:34.740 Which film?

01:37:36.080 Holes.

01:37:36.960 He likes holes.

01:37:38.240 It's an excellent, I think it's by Louis Sacal, right?

01:37:41.500 Louis Satcher, I think.

01:37:43.380 Satcher is how they say it.

01:37:45.400 All right, my sign-off, my sign-off is, if you want to date Blake Neff, please email

01:37:52.200 freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:37:55.500 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:37:57.660 High IQ, Blake.

01:37:58.300 He's single, ladies. 0.79

01:37:59.920 He's single.

01:38:00.580 Jack, me, and Charlie, we're all married.

01:38:03.160 We're out of the game.

01:38:04.020 We don't know what holes are. 0.99

01:38:05.100 Apparently, Hunter Biden is a member of sex clubs. 0.93

01:38:08.520 We don't know anything about this.

01:38:09.880 But here's single Blake.

01:38:11.860 Kill the stream.

01:38:13.200 Cut the stream now. 1.00

01:38:14.480 Kill the stream now. 0.99

01:38:15.900 Right now.

01:38:16.080 Hunter Biden, he would be our subject matter expert on the bonus hole, however.

01:38:20.840 He's invented.

01:38:21.900 He has three new holes.

01:38:24.320 But Blake, if you want to date Blake, email us.

01:38:28.760 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:38:29.840 I said kill the stream.

01:38:31.080 Why is the show continuing?

01:38:32.640 Why is the camera still on?

01:38:34.500 Charlie, final thought.

01:38:35.340 I wonder what it would be like if Mr. Clean had a beard.

01:38:38.600 That's Blake.

01:38:41.120 Great program, everybody.

01:38:42.440 We are going to be back tomorrow for our shows.

01:38:44.540 Subscribe to our podcast.

01:38:46.760 Until next time, hopefully this program does not get memory-holed.

01:38:49.920 See you next week.

01:38:51.860 Don't cry is death.

01:38:54.460 Bright light city gonna set my soul, gonna set my soul on fire.

01:39:00.560 Got a whole lot of money that's ready to burn, so get those stakes up higher.

01:39:07.140 There's a thousand pretty women waiting out there. 1.00

01:39:11.040 They're all living, the devil may care.

01:39:13.800 They're all living, the devil may care.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 01, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 3 — AA Dead？, Georgia Soy Man, Bonus Holes, The Shopping Cart Test

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