THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 32 — Working 40 Hours = Boomer? Prosecute Shooters' Parents? DignifAI?
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This week, a Michigan jury convicted the mother of a school shooter of involuntary manslaughter for her son's shooting of four other students. What does this mean for the parents of the shooter? Is this a good or bad thing?
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okay happy thought crime day everybody we have blake we have tyler we have jack
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let's get right into it to be the most efficient we can blake what is our first story first story
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it's uh coming out of michigan a state that gives us many bad things like detroit lions football
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most years and uh the detroit tigers and you know we're going to michigan whitmer excuse me we're
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going to michigan this this this june we we love detroit we love michigan so much now don't forget
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people's all righty all right all right but anyway this is well i'll just say in an alternate universe
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trump's still president the detroit lions have made it to the super bowl and toby key's probably
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still alive but i'm just saying we're just in an alternate timeline it is the alternate one
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unfortunately the one we are in we have this story out of michigan from pontiac a michigan jury has
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convicted the mother of a school shooter of manslaughter so back in 2021 a 2021 uh ethan
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crumbly was this uh teenager and he did a school shooting killed four other students tragically
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he was 15 at the time and what he actually lived so i think he already took a plea deal
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life without parole but what prosecutors also did is they're prosecuting the parents and they're
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trying them separately so this was the mom jennifer crumbly and they charged her with involuntary
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manslaughter because of her son's shooting and this week they actually convicted her so she has
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been convicted so what's what her so i i saw the news story so fill me in what is the fact pattern
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before i can have an opinion did she know that her son was making violent threats did she know that he
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was playing around with weapons did she not lock up weapons so she gave him a gun is a big key thing
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that they claim they claim she knew or should have known that he was showing bad unstable tendencies he
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was 15 okay and so that doesn't that plays into the parents responsibility exactly true true and
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she gave him the gun and despite there were being warning signs of him being a dangerous person and i'd
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have to check specifically but i think it was literally something like she and her husband gave him
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the gun as a gift literally a day or two before he goes on this shooting so it's a very good fact
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direct cause and effect there and then was there evidence presented that he was going to be violent
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that she knew that he was making so there was definitely things where he'd written statements or sent text
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messages that in a vacuum sounded violent but she argued and i think it's you know other than the fact
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that he did become a shooter the plausible argument like oh he was kidding around you know the way teenagers
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say insane sounding things to be crazy except this one was crazy and shot people did he did he go see
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psychiatric help or no i don't know off the top of my head but i don't think they did i don't think so
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actually there was so this all comes to a head now i'm sure you're going to get to this blake but this
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comes to a head where there's like a school they actually had pulled the parents into the school
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on the morning that the shooting took place obviously before the shooting and had said they
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had found some i mean the fact pattern is really really bad in this case right that's why they're
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using it for sure for sure they want this to be the example for everyone they wanted him to get
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help and the parents we don't know exactly what the disposition was but the parents sent him back
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to school uh rather than like pulling him out immediately and so as uh jack and i i'm torn on
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this sorry go ahead i i because it's you you have a 15 you have a 15 year old minor who actually kills
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people and a parent who gives them the weapon and there's more info to this yeah tell me the parents
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if i recall correctly had a history of being violent in front of the child i believe that was documented
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by him prior to this with a psyche like a school psychiatrist i don't know if it was like a school
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or like a real professional sorry for people that i didn't mean that that are out there but
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you know a school psychiatrist versus like a professional outside that the school
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oh this is school officials left a voicemail and email for jennifer crumbly the mother she did not
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respond but she later texted her son saying lol i'm not mad at you you have to learn not to get caught
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i gotta be honest i'm not very sympathetic with this mom well well this is the other thing so
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no this is the real kicker though i was trying to get to i'm sorry i was studying around this
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they made him bury his own dead dog so i guess the dog died the kid was left alone all the time and i
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guess this was documented no he didn't well i don't know maybe who knows how the dog died the dog died
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the parents did nothing and they made him figure it out on his own i'm getting more here according to
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prosecutors crumbly's own ethan crumbly's only friend moved away at the end of october 2021 so
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just before the shooting yeah and the family dog died causing him to become depressed as early as
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march 2021 he had been sending his mother disturbing texts about his state of mind which included claims
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about demons and ghosts being inside the home i mean i i gotta be i mean jack if you disagree
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i don't hate this it's just not first degree murder so let me just let me just because one
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last thing remember remember we were very quick during the sandy hook tragedy to blame the parent
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for not locking up the weapons right that was a big part of the talking point why shouldn't there
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be a statement that parents if you have a potentially lunatic child you know if they're a minor you know if
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you're dealing with a 19 or 20 year old jack am i wrong am i processing this incorrectly
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no i don't think you are um but i do think that we're in a a new area right we're in a new gray
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area here because look i i don't think these were good parents um and i don't think anyone is making
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that argument and i don't think anybody i've even seen anywhere on the uh spectrum is making that
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argument the political spectrum of course not the not any other spectrums that we might be talking
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about in regards to this case but the the situation here charlie isn't necessarily about this one case
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it's actually about whether or not this precedent will then be continued to be used in other cases
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and really where does this precedent end because it is a new precedent and it is a precedent that has
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and and all of media uh you know sent this way out and i certainly don't think that these are
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sympathetic parents and i think that it that we see this from sort of the liberal uh legal
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establishment or liberal legal complex whatever you want to call it they always use unsympathetic
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uh characters unsympathetic targets to push new precedents and so even though we can certainly agree
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that the facts of this case do warrant some kind of accountability for the parents we should also i
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think take a step back to say this is a new precedent the overton window is being moved in one direction
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and this will certainly only be used against i would say a certain class of people oh hold on but
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let is it really that crazy of a precedent if i'm not mistaken there's been criminal convictions of
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people for manslaughter when someone says they're going to commit suicide and they encourage them to
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do that yeah right like if they really egg them on into it yeah well if you hand someone a gun and
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then they kill themselves then then you could be an accessory you for sure will be yeah so is it
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really that far reaching we're talking about a minor here where there were multiple warning signs and
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they did supply the murder weapon yeah and it's very very old-fashioned i would say that you know
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children are kind of their parents are responsible for their children and what they do to some extent
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certainly in civil court that can happen you know if you're negligent with your child and the child
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does these things but yeah i guess what stands out to us is are we actually going to see this
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principle applied in a lot of cases gang murders yeah gang murders and there's a lot of cases where
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parents are super absentee and that's a huge impact on their children becoming violent criminal
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the question is should we should we have the law point towards parental responsibility i i think when
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it comes to murder yes yeah i mean i i'm all for gang you know if there's a gang kid in chicago
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and the mom is like yeah you know go shoot up the rival gang and hands him a gun yeah and hands the
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gun like you know go you're an accessory go teach the crypts a lesson or even what but what if it's
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something in the middle what if the kid just has friends who are obviously criminals gang members and
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the parent doesn't take action to say these people aren't allowed in our house you can't hang out
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with them if they come here we will call the police if they're negligent in that sort of way and then
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that person becomes a criminal a violent criminal should they be responsible for that yeah but that's
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that's why it's up to a jury at that point to yeah to but i think i think what we're talking about here
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this jury setting the precedent i mean i think we're setting precedent for something some basic facts here
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which is if you hand a crazy person a gun minor that you're responsible for in your household that
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you claim on your taxes 100 and then that person kills someone yeah just the same way and by the
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way this already happens with cars yes so if you let your minor child have access to a car and then
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they go and kill someone you will you will become an accessory for sure in that case yes for murder
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it's and that's probably i don't have the example of it but i guarantee that's happening jack but i want
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you to jack what what is the precedent i must be missing this i mean let's pretend the worst most
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stalinistic what what is the precedent here that i'm missing because the fact pattern is minor
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weapon days ahead ignoring warning signs of text messages yeah what with that fact pattern what
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precedent should we be concerned about i'm not saying that sarcastically i just well charlie it's not
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it's not it's not about the fact pattern it's about the precedent of a a someone connected to someone
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else in this case a child um then commits a crime a person and then the person connected them
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associated with them becomes liable for the crime so in this fact pattern you've clearly got a direct
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line from the actions of the people to the the crime being committed or the actions or i guess the
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inactions as well in this case uh but at the same time i would also point and i remember saying at the
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time looking at the case looking the same fact pattern when i said wait a minute so the parents were
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called into the school and they were asked about the child they were shown some violent um i guess
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drawings and writings that that the student had made i shouldn't say child is 15 um that the student
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had made that it seemed that seemed very violent asking for getting help and saying you know and saying
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i i need help i hear voices the voices are telling me to kill uh at the same time the school the
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student resource officers they had an officer security guy at the school didn't never check
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the backpack of the kid never once checked the backpack of the kid after seeing something like
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that uh the teacher never checked the backpack the principal never checked the backpack nobody checked
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the backpack to see if there was a gun in there and so i guess my question is when we're talking about
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these issues of legal liability um you know why would you not find any liability for the school
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given the situation that again you know how many times do we talk about oh the fbi had someone on
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their radar but then didn't do anything about it and the fbi is never found accountable for any of
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these things or many cases where you know the fbi was you know working as an informant with somebody
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and directly tied to some uh crime that took place and they're trying to get them or you know they
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don't end up catching them and so the crime actually takes place but they again they were on the fbi's
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radar should the fbi be found accountable for not arresting them in a weird way though jack this
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ruling and so where does this end but hold on this ruling actually uses trad con conservative
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belief that a parent is responsible for the kids as long as they're a minor doesn't invert our own
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value system against us if we find this disagreeable right because our own belief system for example
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we're the ones crying foul that a parent should know if there's 15 year old is going to transition
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parent is in charge parents in charge so just to be consistent if the parents in charge that comes
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with responsibility right because security resource officer isn't their parent that they might be
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guilty of gross negligence or you know civil responsibility uh civil type action so i'm just
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thinking out loud because we're the ones the left would be the ones that actually would say no the
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parent has nothing to do with the kid the kid can make up their own mind this kid can get their
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genitals chopped off this is where i start having practical worries i suppose something about this
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doesn't sit right with me and i think it's the fact that we aren't starting we aren't having an up
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or down vote on should parents be responsible for this whole gamut of crimes that kids can commit
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instead what we're doing is we're giving the state a new tool to prosecute essentially
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political targets i think they chose this case specifically because it's a gun case
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a shooting case so they want to they want to basically send the message don't allow your kids
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to be around guns because anything that happens with it could get you in trouble don't have guns
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in your house don't own guns range they go hunting what the left loves is the idea that if you have a
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gun in your home for any reason if anything bad happens it can ruin your life they want to create
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that reality because they want to get rid of they want to disarm the public and and this goes also how we
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see this on other cases so you know trump they're going to say well trump should have known that what
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he said even if it wasn't normally criminal what trump said on january 6th because he's trump he
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should have known it would have driven his followers into a frenzy and they storm the capital
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they really like the left really likes the idea of transferring blame for one person's actions
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onto another person and they do this in other ways you know this gangbanger shoots someone but really
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society's to blame actually you're to blame for the thing this person did and this is that in miniature
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does it change if they're a minor well that's why i think that's what makes it sticky for me and they
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chose a good case i have a different start on it i have a different spin on it and it goes hand in hand
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with with dan crinshaw land which is this is where this plays into what the left wants and to this point
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is really on the red flag law point which is is not just if you have any kind of mental disorder
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that you shouldn't have a gun that someone in your household that has an issue means that you
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shouldn't have a gun in your household and that's the only place like i generally like think that
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parents should be totally responsible for parents that do so if you can prove that like i gave you the
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gun or gave you open access or you're messing around with a gun and i knew you had uh you know
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issues then yeah you're going to be held liable for this but red flag laws what the left wants to
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initiate is that if i have someone in my household that potentially has issues then maybe i can't even
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own a gun and that's probably that that's the angle here in this conversation that is probably we
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haven't discussed yet that's the only issue that i have with that now the facts of the story are it's
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pretty clear that the gun was basically essentially provided to it which is like the worst fact
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pattern for this woman you could imagine so i think there's a happy medium which is like i don't want
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red flag laws but i also want people to know that if if you have someone that's sick in your household
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or you're sick and you do something you're going to go to jail yes like and that's and that's and
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that's fine too you know that's yeah i mean the inverse is that the mom who gives the weapon to the
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kid and by the way she's having like an affair and she's doing some sort of crazy and she's talking
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about suicide and she's like screaming texting back her kid and her dog's dying and apparently
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the kid's having to bury the dog himself and like this kid was a volcano ready to erupt this parent
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and do we just say just the law just is indifference to i mean but the other it might not be the right
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criminal code but we punish parents for being bad parents like you can go to jail for abusing your kids
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and and to your point with gangbangers a lot of parents should go to like we're dealing with this
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in arizona with like the gilbert goons thing right like i don't we don't know the facts of this yet
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but some parents should have to be responsible for things that kids do and you can kill people a lot
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different ways right like you can curb stomp someone you can knife someone you can shake someone you can
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shoot somebody parents that let this action happen and they enable it you know should be held
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responsible to a certain extent with minors jack yes here's my butt is that um you know i i think it's
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it's very easy to get caught up in the fact pattern of this case and as we've stated it it's bad right
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these are not sympathetic people um but at the same time we you can't divorce this from the culture war
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that we are currently in uh in the lawfare situation that we are currently in where one side has the
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initiative and one side is constantly on uh the defensive or counter offense every once in a while
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where we know that every new precedent that gets set by the people who are anti-gun by the people
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who are on the left by the people who are coming after our rights uh is going to be used against a
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specific class of people and this is what i was getting to earlier we do live in a three-tiered
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system of justice we don't live in a flat balanced system of justice so yeah by the way if this were
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going to be the new precedent and we were going to put this up uh to a vote in every every state i'd
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probably be for it i'd absolutely be for it again if we lived in a normal country but we don't live
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in that country we live in a country where conservatives republicans gun owners etc are
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the ones that get cracked down on and not anybody else in fact many most violent criminals in this
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country particularly in the major cities are are let go uh violent illegal aliens are let go and so
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you can't divorce these new precedents that are being set from the context and the general trend and
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the tenor of the culture war in which we are currently in or soft cultural revolution whatever
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you want whatever your name you want to use for it the the uh quasi-communist uprising proto-communist
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uprising that we're living through this precedent will be used against us and it's part i would say
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it's also part of the left's wider understanding and their new conception using red flag laws and other
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types of judicial punishments too because they understand that they can't get rid of the second
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amendment with the new supreme court there's no way they're going to be able to get rid of the second
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amendment in really our lifetimes and so what do they do next they go to the next level and they
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say we're going to take away your ability to use your weapons where they're already taking away our
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right to self-defense and by the way this was the same exact argument they tried to use against
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kyle rittenhouse they tried to say he shouldn't have had the gun in the first place that's why those
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people are dead um he was not allowed to have a gun he crossed state lines again these completely
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um superfluous and trivial arguments that actually had nothing to do with the legality of the case
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the facts of the case but again they're still trying to criminalize the use of guns i'm not saying they
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were used got rightly in this first place but i want people to understand that the left's anti-gun
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um matrix has shifted on the on an operational base point the same way that they've shifted the
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operational matrix on our elections to the operational situation it's well said jack okay
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uh jack talk by the way there's some goofy stuff tyler you and i without going to details i think we
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got bioblasted yeah i i think the i think the republican establishment bioblasted us in vegas i think
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there might be like miniature robots that entered my body and like by the way so i was listening to
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brandon tatum's show on friday and he was like i've never been so sick i have the weirdest symptoms
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like goofy like stuff i've never ever dealt with before jack you got sick as sick as a dog right i
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mean i i don't want to get ahead of myself if all of a sudden in april they're like oh by the way
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there's covid 2.0 i will have been and you would have been in the front like and and where did they
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hit where do they hit vegas right before the super bowl i'm just i'm telling you there is something
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going in those halls of vegas that i think over my house i have kim trails that go over like all the
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time i'm constantly just going straight outside there is something going straight outside a gas
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mass between my house and my car and like you know trying to you got to check out covid i was like
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this is this is man-made it's it just felt man-made no the symptoms i've been having i'm like this is
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interesting one it was going on last week uh so we love having debates on twitter and we love
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zoomers whining on x and so what's going on uh matt walsh our friend over at the daily wire kind of
00:24:23.260
got a lot of heat because of how he responded to this extremely upset zoomer and i thought we should
00:24:29.420
talk about it because there was actually a very strong split between myself and a lot of friends
00:24:34.040
and a lot of conservatives on x uh it's a bit of a long clip but this is basically some zoomer she's
00:24:39.320
about 22 and she's complaining about her life and it's a clip what they tend to do yeah it's clip
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number 69 so uh let's just play that why is it that i have to work 40 hours a week
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just so i can have a place to live 40 hours a week makes me two thousand dollars a month
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and my rent is 1660 so i work 40 hours a week so i can have a two-bedroom apartment
00:25:10.100
and an extra three hundred dollars a month like it doesn't cover my phone internet food
00:25:17.920
you know so not only do i not have any extra money but just working makes me so exhausted
00:25:28.940
that i don't have time either like i get off work at 5 30 come home i'm just so tired
00:25:39.740
i'm so tired that like anything that i need to do outside of work i then just push off to like
00:25:49.140
the weekend and i'm like i'm just too tired to do this after work i'll wait until saturday
00:25:53.380
so then i end up with so much to do on the weekend that ends up having to be split into
00:25:57.940
two days so i have to do stuff on both saturday and sunday so then i don't get a day off i don't
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get a day to relax i don't get to decompress so it is really like working seven days a week
00:26:15.540
and i don't want to do that anymore right like i don't care how poor and miserable i would have
00:26:26.000
to be but i literally can't have a place to live without this you know like
00:26:32.740
i don't know what to do so i'll explain after this is done i think we've we've got the idea
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you guys can cut it now money yeah so here's here's so many questions here's what happens
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where does she live i'm not sure i'm not sure but 1600 for a two-bedroom she probably doesn't
00:26:53.160
live in a major city to be honest that's like you would not get that's about arizona she's got to
00:26:58.460
get some blood work done two-bedroom here is more she's got to get her vitamin d level checked she's
00:27:02.600
got a vitamin b deficiency but she yeah i think she acknowledges that something is physically wrong
00:27:07.860
you live swanky okay yeah i guess you gotta start supplementing with some anyway she's got some
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magnesium probably potassium sodium she's got some what makes this interesting here
00:27:15.700
matt walsh he replies to this in a way it seemed pretty reasonable to me he replies uh you can put
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number 70 up on screen honestly boggles my mind that so many people think 40 hours of work a week
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is a lot that leaves you at least five or six waking hours a day during the week to yourself and
00:27:32.480
two days on the weekend how much more free time do you really think you should have and then he
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continues on number 71 of course the reason you see women in these videos so often is that most women
00:27:44.800
don't actually want to work professional careers at all but they've been pushed this direction by
00:27:49.940
society but even so we should be clear that taking care of children will mean working more than 40 hours
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a week a lot more life is work no matter how you slice it suck it up and deal with it now
00:28:02.460
what's interesting is a lot of people i know and also a lot of the comments from conservatives
00:28:08.880
were super hostile to this they think matt is being a spiritual boomer he's you know talk he's
00:28:17.500
being super dismissive of how terrible it is to be this is why turning point is taking over the world
00:28:23.240
because and we get some of these responses tyler works like 190 he works 145 hours a week this is
00:28:29.800
what they would say i've had a day off since i met charlie kirk a big response was they're saying
00:28:34.260
matt you're a podcaster you barely work you just work six hours a week talking on a screen which
00:28:40.600
i don't know matt but i suspect he works more than that much like you work a lot more than when you're
00:28:46.080
on screen hosting a show yeah we all know that going on yeah and if you enjoy what you do okay
00:28:52.540
you never work a day in your life people do point that out you know if maybe she has a really draining
00:28:57.080
job i don't know first off the math doesn't add up yeah she's getting paid allegedly 11 an hour
00:29:03.360
yeah where is she like jackson mississippi maybe she's a fast food worker it could be really bad
00:29:08.420
they pay like 22 an hour now i just went they pay in and out they have this big thing 25 an hour to
00:29:14.920
flip burgers it's literally in most of these places there's the minimum wage is like way higher than that
00:29:19.860
so she's either lying or number two she has literally a garbage job which is you should you
00:29:26.580
should have done this not really a garbage job garbage man probably pays like 30 no i mean a
00:29:30.580
garbage job she also has no skills that's the problem and this this actually goes back to the
00:29:35.640
argument we make all the time at least when i when i was at the tp usa side of things we talked with
00:29:40.220
young people young people should be working in high school yeah i worked a full-time job in high
00:29:44.660
school where i got paid the equivalent of that i got paid i think my first job was three dollars
00:29:48.880
and 25 cents an hour or whatever it was that that job that's when you learn those skills so that you
00:29:56.400
beyond high school you can advance to something else so you're still living your parents home
00:30:00.000
you're working a job that pays too little to actually live on your own that's another second
00:30:05.040
thing is like why didn't she live with someone she sings his roommates and everything else move
00:30:09.040
somewhere that is more amenable to you none of this actually makes sense and she started her life too
00:30:14.520
late because probably her parents belong in jail like the like the last parents this is a phenomenon
00:30:20.040
i have seen though this is something that exists i think it's some sort of midwestern boomer
00:30:27.000
it codes as conservative or libertarian to me there are some parents who really like the idea of having
00:30:32.440
their kids get out of the house right away at 18 you're on your own live on your own take care of
00:30:39.080
yourself sink or swim and i do wonder if that my parents are that i a lot of people are like that
00:30:45.320
it seems counterproductive to me it seems no well one if you're throwing people out to sink or swim
00:30:51.480
right away the answer that a lot of them do is they become huge liberals because they're cut off from
00:30:56.120
all existing structures that does happen and also just we talk about the importance of you know setting
00:31:02.040
a good foundation for your life and i think one of the ways you do that is we should be emphasizing you
00:31:07.160
get a huge return on saving money early so this person is essentially being destroyed because
00:31:11.400
she lives on her own making two thousand dollars a month can i count our argument what you just said
00:31:16.120
though sure so i do think that a lot of people who are kicked out of their house do become liberals but
00:31:21.240
then they more quickly more rapidly become conservatives again because they have to figure their own lives out
00:31:27.560
now i i've seen just as many people in my life who have lived in their parents home until they're 35
00:31:34.920
who have become the most obnoxious liberals because they've never had to leave never had to do anything
00:31:40.280
on their own and then they end up inheriting the family business or some large sum of money from a
00:31:45.160
family member when their parents die and and then they never learned any life skills their entire life
00:31:50.920
and so i i think that i think no matter what we have work to do on both sides of it but i do think that
00:31:57.320
the entire concept of having a bigger family where you're forced to kick kids out of the home
00:32:01.880
is ultimately better for society than having fewer kids that live under your roof until you die
00:32:08.760
well definitely not live until you die i think you can easily coddle kids too much or you're italian
00:32:13.720
and they have their kids live with them until or russian they're 35 that can be bad but if you
00:32:19.080
have the expectation or you consider it normal work at home work or you know start your career while
00:32:26.600
working at home go to school while staying at home you do not need to race into your own place but you
00:32:31.080
should do that in high school i mean the argument i would make to you is like that should happen in
00:32:35.240
high school you should have garbage jobs in high school you should flip burgers and scoop ice cream
00:32:41.320
and work at target in the checkout line and have to dig ditches and do stupid stuff when you're a high
00:32:46.600
schooler instead of running around you know you know doing bad stuff you know that high schoolers are
00:32:53.960
doing now because they're coddled too much in high school or playing full-time sports which i don't i actually
00:32:58.920
think that that's a horrible thing is that we should be like like i see every kid when i was in
00:33:03.960
high school kids played one sport in high school or or they played multiple sports was they're growing
00:33:08.840
up now we've got kids like doing travel like they're like gonna be the second coming of wayne gretzky or
00:33:14.120
something and none of them are that good and then they turn into bad kids because they have all this
00:33:18.120
free time because they're focused more on sports and like a half ass half you know i guess we we can
00:33:26.120
we can cuss on this right yeah a half booty you know school career and so then they end up in college
00:33:35.160
and they never learn anything but i think if you put kids to work you know and the family business
00:33:40.200
doesn't count by the way you should force kids to go out have to work for someone else learn real
00:33:44.520
valuable lessons get fired from a few jobs do that at an earlier age and they're probably
00:33:48.840
gonna be more successful jack i want to get jack's opinion here yeah i think the boomer take on this
00:33:54.120
is really bad um i think it's i think it's like uh politically stupid number one in what is the
00:33:59.960
boomer take that like oh you should you should all work until you die and you should be like nikki
00:34:04.840
haley uh raising the retirement age to 70. i mean go go take a look at five seconds of tick tock
00:34:11.800
and see how nikki haley is just getting destroyed on there for that take um saying that like every
00:34:17.720
you know work is the only thing that's worthwhile in life uh specifically work at a job by the way
00:34:23.400
work at a job work at an occupation uh work at work for some cup whatever it is right you know defining
00:34:28.200
yourself by your work is something that's just politically i think suicide i think it's actually
00:34:34.440
suicidal for a movement to embrace that as their um as their mantra i really do i mean it's just the
00:34:40.280
the political instincts of like someone who probably backed the wrong horse in uh in the
00:34:45.240
primary earlier this year it's it's just really really really not smart um and so no i mean i
00:34:52.040
think if you want to be out there and you and you want to actually make sense talk about the fact that
00:34:55.560
hey why aren't we all working four hours a week or excuse me four days a week and and living off of
00:35:00.600
our chinese tariffs um why aren't we doing something like that and saying we can make things so much
00:35:04.920
better for our people like the goal of a political movement should be to make things better for here
00:35:10.520
for your people not worse and telling them you're forced to work more you're forced to do more um
00:35:15.240
and and to the the part where i do agree with walsh though is that um it is society that pushes these
00:35:21.480
things it is society that pushes us to overwork americans are absolutely overworked we work more
00:35:26.840
hours than anyone we're unhappier than anyone we're all on ssris and you can see why you can see um if
00:35:32.440
she goes to some therapist the therapist is never going to say like oh you should work less or you
00:35:36.280
should you know try to find a less stressful job the therapist is going to say here take this um
00:35:41.080
take this medication take whatever uh benzodiazepam whatever it is to you know beta blockers to make
00:35:46.840
yourself feel better and then go about your days they're going to drug you up rather than saying
00:35:51.000
hey you should find some work-life balance it is just interesting to me how hostile it was like
00:35:56.040
i'm friends with a lot of people who work hard and they were pretty negative about it and you can put up
00:36:00.840
72 some of the what are they what are they negative about matt welsh i'll just read a few of
00:36:04.920
these are some of the top results uh this is from a guy halfios matt i respect you but you did radio
00:36:11.400
and you run a podcast you work hard but you cannot compare that to blue collar work even retail
00:36:17.320
restaurant work is harder than what you do stop being a boomer next person easy take when you make
00:36:22.600
six or seven figures doing a job you love matt try working 40 hours at a job that drains you mentally
00:36:27.960
and physically and emotionally so that you can afford rent and groceries some guy dissident soaps
00:36:33.240
wait matt said that about working with ben shapiro uh uh no bad take her husband should be able to
00:36:40.680
afford a house and two cars working 40 hours a week so she can stay home like people did before 1975
00:36:46.520
and then ian bs five days out of seven is not a good work-life balance
00:36:51.960
yeah i'm just speechless like i mean i i don't i don't know what country i live in anymore i guess
00:36:58.840
i mean first of all i take one day fully off so i do what the bible says i literally stop for one day
00:37:04.920
and i love what i do i think tyler's on my team here like if you don't you're not creating then you're
00:37:09.720
dying i personally think that i mean the soviets put people on a six-day work week okay so these same
00:37:16.680
people that don't want to work to have no idea what's coming for them when we actually get to
00:37:21.160
you know the american soviet rule which is what we're trying to avoid for all that is a funny
00:37:26.440
part people will say this is why we need communism capitalism has failed aha comrade you shall enjoy
00:37:32.840
your time in the lithium mine they had a 48 they had an eight hour work day but it was six days a week
00:37:37.880
it was 48 hours so you can look it up but i mean this is this for me it's you know you're gonna have
00:37:44.360
jobs in your life where you're not the boss and you're gonna have jobs in your life where you
00:37:48.440
become the boss and some people never get to become the boss because they don't ever figure out how to
00:37:53.240
become the boss and that is called capitalism and so for me it's like you're going you're never going
00:37:59.480
to enjoy not being the boss you just aren't if you if you're not in control of certain things if
00:38:03.080
you're not creating you're not doing things that you enjoy you're you're probably not going to love
00:38:07.160
that job every job where i wasn't creating and being the boss i didn't enjoy it but i learned something
00:38:11.160
from each of those things so i can hopefully at some point in my life become the boss am i the
00:38:14.920
only one that enjoys work days more than weekends no i like i it's more work to be at home jack do
00:38:21.080
you jack oh my goodness no no being a wife is hard training is saturday this is true i'm not saying
00:38:26.600
i'm normal but these things that's not true true story no all these people hate work from home all these
00:38:33.560
people hate work from home which is good i moved from dc to phoenix because i was going crazy not
00:38:39.240
having an office okay i need to i need to be at a workplace with people is this sounds super
00:38:44.920
out of touch or distant when i say that weekdays give me more fulfillment than weekends well i don't
00:38:50.440
know about fulfillment but i will say this and well every answer your question i'm going to score points
00:38:55.880
right now because my wife's job is way harder at home no 100 managing three children than doing
00:39:02.200
anything that i do one kid and i need a nap after like two hours and i have to go for a walk and i think
00:39:07.880
this is a male female thing right which is like my wife might disagree and she might find things
00:39:12.600
uncomfortable about working and doing what we do every day but like it's it's hard to do those
00:39:17.320
things and everybody has a role yeah i just i don't i know i'm different i just i love when i get to
00:39:23.240
wake up super early and i think we could say there might be a crisis in terms of less work is giving
00:39:29.720
people a sense of meaning even if it's sure even if it's a very grunt work of the past you might have
00:39:35.800
built something you were in a factory you saw that car get made yeah or you worked on a farm you
00:39:40.200
saw that crop grow and feed people whereas now your real grind job could be something you work as an
00:39:47.240
amazon delivery person you work as a telemarketer and it's a true grind job that is the same every
00:39:53.400
day with no change and often you're very policed in it you have these workplaces that spy on you
00:40:00.120
and they penalize you if your bathroom break is two minutes too long and i think that can be really
00:40:05.480
oppressive and draining to people and it is something for conservatives to think about because
00:40:10.040
if we are pro-work we should want work to be something that people will if not enjoy at least
00:40:17.080
understand and appreciation i think because we're made in the image of god and god creates
00:40:22.200
work is a bad word for it because it feels like toil or it feels as if it's just kind of digging a
00:40:27.880
ditch to fill it back in again which is a form of hell what i'm advocating for is creation building
00:40:33.800
new things and innovating and being creative about different problems and by the way that is that you
00:40:41.800
could be you could do creation in the family unit too you're creating kids you're building kids
00:40:46.760
i this this young lady sounds as if she's she looks at work as soul-sucking yeah and yeah i mean but
00:40:52.840
you said in japan that if you come and you see a bus driver he's like i will be the best bus driver i
00:40:58.840
can be yes but isn't that to my argument you can make even unfulfilling work fulfilling yeah if you
00:41:04.680
believe in duty and obligation for sure but it is very much the miasma of society around it does play
00:41:11.800
a huge role it's hard to be the only one at your job who cares and they'll like i'll hate you for it and
00:41:17.480
if the job doesn't give you any incentive to do that yeah but we don't live in a society where we're
00:41:21.560
assigned these boring jobs you can still find you could still i think about this all the time i'm
00:41:26.360
like man it would be a beautiful vacation to have one of those jobs at some so at some point right
00:41:31.240
like jersey mics sometimes i'm like i would love to be an uber driver and just spend all day long
00:41:36.120
chatting with people live in like my yeah do that whole thing and you know some people think that
00:41:41.240
that's miserable i talked to some uber drivers who are like man i i hate uber yeah i'm just doing this
00:41:45.560
for a short period of time and then there's people who love it right and it's and it's just to that
00:41:50.280
point that charlie said is that you can make anything great the beauty of america is that no
00:41:55.320
one is stuck with there's a there's a lot of different jobs that you can find a lot and you can
00:42:00.840
hop around to a lot of those different jobs right now we have a problem in america where we don't have
00:42:05.560
enough of these jobs filled uh and and that's a that's part of the problem that we have because
00:42:11.400
we aren't training our people at a younger age to take these jobs learn something from them in
00:42:17.240
advance and that's part of why i think society is collapsing a little bit is because we're trying
00:42:22.360
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trying to go to vegas for a 2500 a ticket super bowl okay five thousand dollars a ticket now are you
00:44:07.080
you kidding me cheapest ticket available is five thousand dollars you know that that would be a
00:44:11.560
good thought crime topic why is it so expensive this year what what is i have my own personal this
00:44:18.360
this nfl season has been the most commented by non-football people is it the taylor swift effect
00:44:24.920
what is it or is it that that we finally got over the woke stuff and we kind of forgot it we are truly
00:44:29.240
reaching the point where the nfl is the only unifying cultural force in american life it is the only
00:44:35.480
thing everyone watches they said it was the most popular it's the only show anyone watches on tv
00:44:40.920
anymore no one watches network television no that's that's smart totally dying it's all live sports and
00:44:47.240
the only live sport that really dominates is football and its ability to just now it's sucking in all the
00:44:53.720
gambling money it's sucking in no that's another point i think the draft kings revolution by the way
00:44:58.920
we should do a whole thought crime on the morality of gambling have we done that yet i think we did we
00:45:03.160
talked about doing oh that would be such a good conversation good one we did not do a full like
00:45:09.080
it came up in the course of what's our last topic oh our next stop do you just want to do the real
00:45:13.400
topic we can do that what is what is the next one uh ai and uh oh no that's too good we can't
00:45:18.200
no we have no we have no but i just want to say i think that also the fact that it's in vegas i think
00:45:23.320
people are getting free hotel rooms basically like 30 bucks a night so maybe there's more demand to go to
00:45:27.640
the super bowl and cheap flights to vegas like every place flies to vegas in america they all just want to
00:45:31.560
gaze upon the sphere which we must all bow towards you know by the way have you seen that thing it's
00:45:36.200
incredibly impressive it's so i saw it when we were there last week it was pretty i wish they'd do more
00:45:39.800
shows than stupid youtube there all right let's do a dignify ai dignify i just said this is one of my
00:45:48.200
favorite stories erica loved this story when i showed it to her she thought it was the coolest thing ever
00:45:52.840
walk us through it who wants to who wants to jack do you want to drive on the bus here uh do we have
00:45:57.960
something written or do you just want me to like kind of explain it because we have a ton of photos
00:46:02.120
so you can describe it and they'll just put them up uh while you talk yeah so um we finally found a
00:46:07.160
proper use for ai and so for all of the thoughts out there who are attempting to use only fans or social
00:46:17.080
media to reel in uh their um you know their catch their prey their simps their betas whatever you want to
00:46:24.520
call them uh basically what 4chan has developed and there's this great guy on on twitter x uh has
00:46:32.680
created the uh account at dignif ai it's called dignify and it exists as this really interesting tool
00:46:42.120
where it's going through these pictures of scantily clad women uh and also women with egregious tattoos
00:46:48.600
or any tattoos and cleaning them up just absolutely making women look more beautiful more dignified
00:46:55.800
and it's really speaking to something in our culture where there's a miley cyrus from the grammys
00:47:00.520
where it almost seems like the women look better when they are dressed more dignified or uh or attired
00:47:10.200
more dignified and there's it speaks to something in our culture i think where where these these women
00:47:16.760
who and and by the way so this one right here for example i actually kind of disagree with in a sense
00:47:23.480
because you know it's it's funny right obviously but i i do think that you can go a little bit too
00:47:29.640
far with these things where i don't think that she's you know dressed like a hussy walking around
00:47:36.120
in uh or or trying to you know use use her looks to generate money on the internet uh i think that she's
00:47:42.840
just a model dressed as you know i guess like a greek um you know a greek kind of figure here like
00:47:48.200
helen of troy or whatever and so i do think there's a tendency for dignified to go a little bit too far
00:47:54.120
but where it's most effective for is for is for trolling the thoughts and patrolling the thoughts
00:47:59.880
and the thoughts like this one right here will absolutely be patrolled and anytime you can do this
00:48:05.800
um i was a huge supporter by the way of the thought audit do you guys remember the thought audit i
00:48:09.880
remember we were just talking about taxes they should have given her something she was lifting
00:48:14.200
here though to to like make it more i want to i want to make sure we get this headline just to
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just to explain it um for those because we were talking about taxes so the thought audit was for
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people to go and they were um matching with girls on like only fans or some of these other things and
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they were saying like oh what do you um how much do you make and do you do you report that to the
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irs you must pay a lot in taxes and then getting them to say something like oh i don't report it
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and then taking their information and reporting that to the irs because 4chan found out that
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apparently you can you can receive a bounty like a percentage of the taxes that aren't being paid
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if you find someone who's not paying their taxes uh and so it became called the thought audit and i
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actually coined that term thought thought audit when it was going on back at the time and it's it's it
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seems like we should bring it back i want to jack they're also doing that so they were encouraging
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people to do that with with servers too so they're like every time you go out to eat report your server
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oh no i wouldn't do that to a server no that's where it came from that was the original thought
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audit was the server those aren't those aren't the same as ethos no no i know i'm just saying that's
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where it came from i think i think is wrong i feel bad for those poor people who were you know getting
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audited no and i'm i'm very maybe that girl in the video was one of those people like i'm i'm totally
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for all that totally for all that maybe that girl in the video got audited because somebody audited
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you know had a bounty wasn't there so do we have the rolling stone uh rolling i have it on screen if
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we just want to show it here uh you can just bring up my screen here uh so this is an actual article in
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rolling stone i did not initially believe it was real uh 4chan death by snoo snoo 4chan chuds used ai
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to clothe her she fought back how did she fight back dignify uh and apparently i'm not sure she
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actually had ai on her edited ai actually remove her clothes so now it's a completely and i am not a
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subscriber to rolling stone so i cannot read the text of this article but apparently she fought back
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chud is some is this kind of slang term for kind of right-wing dude well this interconnects with
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everything with the girl that wanted a better job too because maybe uh i don't know what she's doing
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out there to make up for the disparity in her income because she only had 200 to live off of
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hopefully it's nothing bad but some of these i i know people are using ai for better headshots that
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they're putting on their on their uh applications to places like on their resumes some of these
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pictures that dignified is doing are really great for resumes so you know maybe it'll get them a better
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job even yeah just go on your instagram take your sauciest photo and then just oh now you're in a suit
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now you're in now you're people want to hire people with kids and wear crosses they're fully
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closed so like use this your dignify picture oh i'm in your resume that's nice put on your resume
00:51:14.920
you know let's you know create an entire account around your dignify pictures jack posobic a far
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right influencer excuse me not far right you mean right so far uh who on friday posted four examples of
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the tool being used on what he referred to as e-girls a derogatory term for women with front-facing
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personae on the internet like what um and that it's it i i'm not really sure exactly how she's
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getting us back i think she's just she's just yelling like she's basically just complaining about
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it yeah death by snoo snoo i'm i'm not really sure how she has uh fought back on in any way other than
00:51:56.840
like taking her clothes off more like i'm so confused all right what's the final topics edit uh we could
00:52:05.240
talk about real quick uh elon musk let's do that elon musk is going to go to war with disney
00:52:10.200
so uh this is a lawsuit going to be filed it i can't say more i have heard some stuff that it seems
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legit he seems very interested in this and this is all because yesterday he's been on a bit of a war
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path so yesterday elon musk uh tweeted an anonymous source just sent me this from disney it is mandatory
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institutionalized racism and sexism and before we show the image i just want to say this has been
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seen 43 million times has 186 000 likes 44 000 reposts this has been seen by a huge number of people and
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it's disney's general entertainment content inclusion standards as they call it uh and so they have four
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different categories here that apparently within disney you have to fulfill at least three or two
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or three criteria in each standard and they're trying to hit all of them to hit this so for example
00:53:06.280
standard a on-screen representation a1 characters 50 or more of regular and recurring written characters
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must come from underrepresented groups which they put in capital letters uh or you know a4 series premise
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meaningful integration of underrepresented groups in overall themes and narratives and similar stuff
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for actors secondary characters and episodic storytelling and you need to get three out of
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five of those to fulfill yep standard a and it continues like this standard b is creative leadership so
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who's writing it who's the casting director who is in senior creative leadership and then below the line
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which is uh production staff crew members and then finally industry access and career development and this is
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paid employment opportunities such as apprenticeships it's uh the vendors you're hiring the contractors
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you're hiring and all of these are based on increasing representation for so-called underrepresented groups
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and then you know obviously there's other groups that are going to lose out purely based on identity
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categories and musk has been getting more and more vocal about this just over the past year he kind of
00:54:16.680
starts off oh that's interesting and he's getting more and more aggressive about this and now he's just
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he's straight up a saying if you feel you've been discriminated against by uh disney contact us and we will
00:54:27.560
try to provide you legal help i'm not sure why he's at war with disney specifically but i think we can all
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agree the house of mouse might might be elon elon wins these lawsuits he has a good track record i think
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i think it's i think it's clear why he's in war with with disney because uh if you look at what he's doing with
00:54:44.680
with x he's trying to position x as as a streaming service and i think disney plus outside of you
00:54:51.880
know sort of in like normie world is one of the top uh streaming services against um yeah against netflix
00:54:59.800
keep in mind you've got you're not just talking about disney plus you're also looking at at espn
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abc all of their um all their corollary networks marvel etc etc and so anything that he can do to take
00:55:11.720
to me it it just shows elon getting more into that entertainment media space the same way
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that uh obviously he's you know he's promoting tucker for coming on um i think um uh what's his
00:55:25.240
name from uh uh don lamon is coming on x so he's it it seems to me as a way of him going after a
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competitor very good all right until next week guys keep committing thought crimes thanks so much talk to