THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 43 — Banning the Bible? Frat Bro Future? The Birth Dearth?
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Summary
The boys are back from their trip to Europe and are back in America. The boys discuss the recent events in the news and discuss the latest in the anti-semitism movement. They also discuss the new bill passed by congress banning the Bible.
Transcript
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from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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okay everybody happy thought crime thursday uh tyler's here no he's not actually soon
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which is blake soon soon he's been uh very busy understandably blake is here by the way blake's
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tiktok has uh taken off oh dear it is ascendant by the way you're getting a lot of dating resumes
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coming oh let's not talk about that are you following up with them and you got something
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daisy private that's private information we gotta get we got daisy that is private information uh
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jack are you back from europe that's the real question 100 back um what what an incredible
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trip um just just hung out with like you know it's amazing when you're in eastern europe you
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don't have to dodge bullets you don't have to dodge people still boneless just posted this video from
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the new york subway of this guy just unconscious and publicly urinating all over the new york city
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subway and it's amazing that videos like this just don't seem to exist anywhere in eastern europe at
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all so yes civilization still does exist you just have to fly a little bit to get there did you go
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to africa i went to africa i did we went to morocco okay that is africa so what what are all the places
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in europe you went to uh this time around we went to um we went to hungary we went to romania we went
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to madrid and then we had like a long layover like a one day layover in morocco it's pretty impressive
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have you been to morocco i have not did you go to you know what's great about morocco we went to
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casablanca so california said they were totally going to build a high-speed rail and still has
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there was some french or japanese company that came in and was going to build and help them
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and they wait around for a few years while california tries to get its acts together and finally they say
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this state is never fixing itself we're going somewhere that's way more functional so they went
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to morocco and morocco's built this big high-speed rail line in the time span where california has still
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built no rail whatsoever yeah it's we actually asked about that when we were there and apparently
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it's it's not it doesn't go to like every city but it's between like the two main cities tyler's here
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tyler you were the star of our show last week you just wait you're talking tyler let us see your
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facial tats where are your facial tats uh i'm getting the teardrop
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based 11 teardrops for the 11 no no blake we can't anything that can say we can't go
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i'm gonna i'm gonna like be a totalitarian stop i i i'm gonna say this is we're uh we're we're ready
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to uh take on whatever we need to take on here which is uh you know that this is we're in crazy
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times yes we are we we don't want to cause any more problems for tyler because we're dealing with
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bad people okay let's get into the first topic blake what is it they're banning the bible charlie
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congress just went and they voted on the law that says if you own a bible if you read a bible if you
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look at a bible they are going to cut your head off that's that's what the law says okay i am
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exaggerating a bit i'm exaggerating a very eventful day oh i believe it i believe it and so for those who
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haven't for those who haven't been following the news too much so big big picture there's a lot of
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campus protests against israel a lot of them have had a very anti-semitic flavoring to them to say
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the least there's a lot of extremely angry liberals doing what extremely angry liberals do which is be
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disgusting and understandably we think those people are gross we're all like cheering on the cops when
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they decide to you know knock down their lame tent cities or arrest them for taking over buildings but
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the right is doing that thing where they they get a good idea and then they they goof up their
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response to it and so what congress is doing uh the u.s house is they decided to pass a bill
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attacking anti-semitism and as is often the case with congress they didn't read it it's like the terms
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and conditions on your iphone they just don't you know you just go to the bottom and click i agree
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it's hr 690 hr 6090 6090 and what hr 6090 does is it passes a formal definition for anti-semitism
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and it instructs the department of education to use this definition for the purposes of enforcing
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civil rights law so we have civil rights law that say you can't discriminate on the basis of race
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or sex or skin color or religion and other factors uh if you are a school that is getting federal money
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and so what they say is obviously that would apply like anti-jewish discrimination and so what this
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law is essentially saying is this is the official definition of anti-jewish discrimination that the
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department of education should use and the definition that they are using is really really broad it is
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yes a definition created by a group called the international holocaust remembrance alliance and it's
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called the working definition of anti-semitism and this working definition of anti-semitism
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it includes some things we would all agree both are anti-semitic and should not be allowed like you
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can't like it includes assisting in violence against jewish people that's already illegal of course that's
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already illegal so that's part of it it's state local and federal crimes that so it's one of these
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things where why do you need to pass it except to expand it but other definitions that are included
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here as examples and this law what it does is it says it includes the definition and the examples
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that this group has given that you should look towards and so for example one of them is claiming
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that the existence of a state of israel is a racist endeavor which some people say because it's a country
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that defines itself as jewish it gives citizenship to jewish people automatically but not other groups
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of people so it's a group that it's a state that defines itself by a particular nationality so
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they'll say that's racist or they'll say drawing comparisons between contemporary israeli policy and
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that of the nazis as michael knowles explained on our show no one knows how to compare any bad thing
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or the thing they say is bad to anything except the nazis it is the it's the godwin's law everything
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gets to uh compared to the nazis but now they're saying that is anti-semitic and so what that means is
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if a school like if a professor at a school does this or if a group at a school does this and doesn't
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get punished or if employees of a school are doing this it would apparently violate civil rights law
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and then the government can come in and sue you or they have to have lawsuits go your way go towards
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someone if they sue over this and it just it adds to the arsenal of things the federal government can do
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to mess with you so let yeah let's break let's first let's play the uh laws author a bill's author
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which actually it's it has more there's a lot of updates around this and we covered it earlier today
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there's a lot of updates here this is mike lawlor moderate from new york republican it is his bill
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play cut 102 hey everyone it's congressman mike lawlor i just want to say how proud i am that my bill
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the anti-semitism awareness act just passed the house of representatives 320 votes to 91 this bill
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has broad bipartisan support and will begin the process of cracking down on the anti-semitism that
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we've seen run rampant on college campuses all across america this is a big day and a big win
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now we got to get it through the senate and signed into law i look forward to working to get this across
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the finish line there's so much wrong with this first of all if you really want to get to the
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core of anti-semitism defund the colleges that's a separate issue secondly why is congress in the
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business of policing speech but i want to just get to two elements here the first of which is that we
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were i started to call out a lot of lawmakers on this and their response was like oh the senate's
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not going to pass it was a show vote we now have intel from two u.s senators chuck schumer is
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accelerating this to the senate floor yes that he is now top priority for the senate
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so all the republicans that voted for it they did not read this i could tell you after a whole day
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of talking to several lawmakers they did not read this third element eli crane has come out publicly
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and privately right he met with mike johnson right before this passed he was like bro like i know we're
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not on great terms there's a huge problem in this bill can we get it fixed like he went with three
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other congressmen that's right and he was like yo like just i totally understand like a show vote we
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understand in congress there are show votes it's just the way it is show vote like resolutions are
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for that more than laws and speaker johnson took it and was like yep good we'll fix it and he said
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we'll fix it and he put it exactly as it's worded so speaker johnson literally didn't listen to anything
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so what is the main contention here so it's all the stuff we had you know listed about that's already
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bad because it's like okay you can't criticize the israeli government you know even if that's a
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bad criticism we don't need a ban on criticizing a foreign country but one of the things that's in it
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is it says uh it mentions images associated with classic anti-semitism e.g for example claims of jews
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killing jesus so i want to get into this so i talked to um a very smart man who likes this bill and he's a
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good friend i'm not gonna say who it is but he's very well studied phd all that stuff and he didn't
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like my tweet where i asked the question and we actually came to a great agreement on the phone
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call where he said charlie read the text over and over again so let's read the text again using the
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symbols and images associated with classic anti-semitism for example claims of jews killing
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jesus or blood libel to characterize israel or israelis so he says this is essentially group
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guilting all current israeli citizens for the death of jesus i said that's not what it says though
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and what i was able i think to come to some common ground with is i said can you point to a time
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where the federal government has a statute where they do not pervert or contort what is on the laws
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of the books to come after the faithful and i think the best example of this in modern times is
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douglas mackie look how douglas mackie is facing federal prison time for making a meme in the 2016
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election using the ku klux klan act bingo but that's it that's important though because the
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anti-semitism app sounds really act sounds popular maybe 20 years from now some christian who's
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preaching first thessalonians 214 let's make sure tyler's uh mike is on yeah yeah good is gonna
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give me have his home rated so i want to just say this first of all this was a show vote and mike
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johnson screwed up a show vote here's usually what you do with a show vote no teeth we therefore say
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that anti-semitism is wrong and bad and we're going to establish a committee to look into it totally
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okay with that i'm gonna go further i'm not okay with it show votes are dumb why did you have well
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they're dumb but what we have 300 days in session over the course of a congress fair enough but we
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wouldn't you spent one of them on this we wouldn't go nuclear over a show vote okay okay so you know
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i'm with blake i'm with blake on this i think it's like the wasted time stuff is like why are we
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doing wasted time stuff no i'm just let me just kind of just say if their their defense some of them
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is hey you know there's a lot of moderate members that wanted this it's a show vote no harm done no no
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there actually is now harm done and so senator roger marshall i'm gonna get jack in this in a
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second from kansas has now tweeted out this which is remarkable uh which by the way goes to show the
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power of our program in social media he says the holy bible is the word of god i believe in the
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sanctity of scripture and no person should change or alter those words if this bill comes to the senate
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floor as is we will offer an amendment to honor the sanctity of scripture scripture by the way thank you
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senator marshall for that very clear tweet i wish they would have read the bill before they actually
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passed it jack i want to loop you in on this jack uh it seems as if this also could be an indirect hit
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towards vatican one catholics jack do you sense what i'm saying here and can you kind of take it from
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there yeah so pre-vatican one um there were continuous you still hear this in some tlm or traditional
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masses um within the catholic church and not to get super into it so vatican one or which there
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was no like vatican one but it's like pre-vatican two so pre-1960s you would hear in a lot of catholic
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churches the prayer for the conversion of the jews uh the prayer for the conversion of the jews and so
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this would be a uh a basic statement that the jews uh rejected jesus this led to the crucifixion and
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the death of christ and then this is also something that catholics pray for um and specifically by the
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way the conversion of the unfaithful jews and this was a common and regular just regular prayer and by
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the way there was also a prayer for the conversion of pagans as well um and so let's say now that you're
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the fbi which is already as we know using uh i'm not even actually sure what justification they're
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using but they're claiming you know potential for radical extremist plots in order to infiltrate
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using federal assets and informants into traditional latin mass churches and traditional
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latin mass services now all of a sudden you've got a new law that says oh perhaps we can shut down your
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church if we catch you praying this specific prayer which by the way all christians continuously pray
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for the conversion of everyone to christ that's sort of a basic tenet of christianity but if you use
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the wrong words now the federal government can go after you evidently and so let's let's continue in
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here so uh if you go the the the definition gets worse and worse and you know there's been a lot of
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emphasis rightfully so on the biblical part of this but let's just talk to another one of here if you um
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if you now say that uh jews are more loyal to israel than to the priorities of jews worldwide
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then you're an anti-semite but i i'm trying to understand what if there's an israeli citizen that
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is visiting america yeah it's not an american citizen are you not allowed or like there are
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people in america who have been arrested and thrown in prison for spying on the u.s on behalf of israel
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like i'm sorry it is a fact of like this happens with other countries there are chinese people who come to
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america and they are more loyal to china it's unfortunate this is a real phenomenon and to just
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say like categorically you can't utter it or you'll be sued and you'll like get punished by the federal
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government that's insane it might be hurtful to say that to like a lot of random people which is a thing
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that's done it's not it's an ugly behavior to do but to say that it's illegal or you're going to use
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the full force of the government and here i could just see how this is going to work so now you have
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cat let's just take wyoming catholic college okay which is a really solid catholic school they haven't
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gone woke are they now going to get a letter from the department of education in the next year five
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years ten years where they're like hey uh can we see your missiles can we like see what you're teaching
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in regards to like are you reciting hate speech in your liturgical it doesn't even have to happen
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next year what if it happens in 20 years that's the point of the kkk act is that they'll pass this
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stuff put it on the shelf next generation and they'll dust it off no more laws the less justice
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and we need to take a step back hate speech is not a thing there's ugly speech there's gross speech
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but hate speech is a term that is inherently subjective and the first amendment protects all speech that
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doesn't call for violence and honestly outside of one of these examples on the international
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holocaust museum which by the way i'm sure they do great work um is like not like oh the first one is
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this if you call for the killing of jews that is direct incitement of violence no one should support
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that okay but then you go to the third entry point accusing jews as a people i'm sorry accusing jewish
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citizens being more loyal to israel or the alleged priorities of jews worldwide how about this one
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applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other
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democratic nation what does that even referring to israel they'll always say israel's held to a
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double standard that they're expected to do things with regard to palestine that the u.s isn't expected
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to do or china or russia or any other country they're not expected to do these things so they say they're
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subject to a double standard may be true but again you're now saying the federal government is going to
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police that people don't have the wrong opinions about a foreign government that so tyler help me
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understand the politics of this mike johnson who is he's up against the wall right now he has to get
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democrats to bail him out he's posting a vote he's facing a motion of ak the guy is not his popularity
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has gone by 20 points yeah and he thinks it's a good idea to do this like did he read the bill did
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mike johnson read the bill this is jumping the shark for sure like if there is a classical definition
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of like trying to jump the shark and this is what i think and for those of our younger audience that
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don't know the jumping the shark reference it was at the end of happy days again this is american
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history right they put fonzie on water skis and had him jump over a fake shark on on the thing that's
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where the term comes from this is i think this is what starts happening when you get desperate you
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start doing weird stuff that you think is going to end up making you more popular and more protected
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that's actually the opposite has the opposite effect where it's like actually people are now looking at
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you even more and i'm afraid now we've drawn more attention to him the people who wanted to remove him
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as speaker to begin with are now more upset right so now this isn't helping at all like why can't we
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just come together and do things that are going to be like bring the republican caucus together i don't
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i don't know things that like are populist that are going to help us in the general election
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in 2024 i don't know this doesn't this does not appear to do those things and ironically if you read
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the babylonian talmud it says um the idea that jews killed jesus also found in jewish religious
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literature did you know this is according to my jewish learning.com now i'm just saying maybe i'm like
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really did they cell phone where now you're not allowed to read from the talmud i'm just saying
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like if in jewish folk literature it says right here um again this is my jewish learning.com
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a teaching from year before 300 asserts that jesus was put to death by a jewish court for the crimes of
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sorcery and sedition in standard text of the talmud from eastern europe or an american text that simply
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copied from them there's a blank space towards the bottom of that folio because it's potentially
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offensive text was removed the censorship may have been internal for self-protection or may even been
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imposed on the jews by christian authorities in many new editions the talmud in the talmud this
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passage has been restored the talmud's claim was that there was an event that took place in the eve
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of passover is consistent with the chronology of the gospel of john in the talmudic account the romans
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played no role in the death i mean even in the bible like what it essentially is is they accuse him of
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blasphemy and then they go to the romans and they say he's a blasphemer and pontius pilate says
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i don't care and they say well he's also undermining caesar and he's still kind of like
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that that's sus but then they basically say you might get executed and so he's and they kind of
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throw a temper tantrum and so he washes his hands of it as as it were that's right and they say give
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us barabbas give us barabbas you know what that means in greek i believe it means the son the son of
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man or the son of god abba father i have to look that up what does barabbas mean in greek let me
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see son of the master son of the father yeah i was right yeah and so it's almost i again the bible
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thing stands out but we do need to emphasize you can't fix the bible part you can't just throw in
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the religious scripture is protected here and make this bill good this is still a bill that goes way
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too far and what's sad about it big picture is this issue should be a huge winner for us because
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you have obnoxious left-wing violent yes jerkwad students at columbia basically rioting to support
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a terrorist group and their main opponents are a bunch of jerkwad academia heads who are also terrible
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and we basically could just watch watch them rip each other to shreds and then send in the cops if they
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get too violent and like arrest some people i want to get jack in on this jack if there was ever a time
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for us to be lazy and do nothing we should have just took like the week off like if there's ever
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a time for them to like take a break mike johnson be like just go home to your districts like just go
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home it's i mean so there's in funny enough in ancient china okay they used to have this belief
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called wu wei and it just it sort of means do nothing and this kind of came about like in the
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13th century when the chinese dynasties were pretty much running all of asia and they were pretty much
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the top of the heap when it came to asian cultures and so the idea was we've got the empire right where
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we want it so just do nothing don't make any big moves and we'll stay winning and this was this was
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pretty much fine until the british showed up with their gunboats and um this is kind of then the
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chinese also have this other ancient saying don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake the
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worst possible thing you could do total break of rules with radicals total break of base the basics of
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information warfare is that if your enemy is fighting your other enemy there and themselves
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essentially if the snake that you are fighting is eating its own tail don't step in and try to
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save the snake and what you're doing is and what the republicans have done here is they've committed a
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massive strategic blunder as usual where they're moving the focus of attention away from the protests
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and onto themselves now fortunately for the republicans these protests which have descended into riots at this
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point are so incredibly violent that it's kind of hard for the media to get away from it and even like
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local media and mainstream media are broadcasting these images and so humans are visual creatures we
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are going to remember these images it's a complete and massive optics fail for the democrats normies
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centrists independents everyone is turning against this thing um which by the way if you're actually
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for the people of gaza is probably you know not a good thing for you because uh this is just going to help
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the israelis with their with with their public opinion because people are going to say i don't want to be
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involved with the guys supporting the you know these protests and so it's it's ridiculous to me that
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they're never never bet against the republicans when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of
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victory but that's exactly what they've done here massive well and i want to bring this part point up too
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because it's like this is maybe i'm just super innocent but this whole thing is just like so
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tyler's the most innocent in the world ladies and gentlemen astounding to me is this entire thing
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about you know taking such offense that you know the jewish population was not a big fan of jesus
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and that they were responsible for his death it wasn't just him but it was the apostles they ran out
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after they crucified jesus big time yeah they they ran him all over but but james was killed they had
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brought him forward today and then that's what made all the 12 apostles disperse they they left
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because they literally murdered james then after the crucifix of jesus so like again i i think there's
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like a a certain sensitivity i understand around you know christian jewish relations around
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the the topic of jesus and and what had the in the events that happened around that but like
00:24:09.100
again saying these things and and to your point back charlie is like you come into this whole thing
00:24:14.840
i'm just like so astounded that that this is i don't i don't think the average person walking on
00:24:21.660
the street would be offended by any of that conversation but now that that makes you a target by the
00:24:28.660
government is one of the scariest things ever that you could ever probably you know put into writing i
00:24:34.640
get frustrated because when you think of the big picture of how did this come around and it's that
00:24:40.140
it's like it's like we have bad ideological formation on high level republicans because
00:24:47.300
they can't they haven't had the process thought of yeah we've been defending free speech for the last
00:24:52.960
six years you know we've been worried about censorship online we've been worried about
00:24:57.760
censorship on campus we've been worried about democrats wanting to roll back all these speech
00:25:02.400
things and putting our guys in jail and then you know the neurons didn't fire right when this came
00:25:08.320
up to go like wait now we restrict speech that now good what like why didn't you this come together
00:25:17.560
where have you been this whole time yes it's just like what do you guys not learn get it
00:25:22.140
whole process yeah and they they constantly talk a good game on campus free speech like well not
00:25:27.480
actually not all free not all speech that's what they're saying yes and just oh suddenly we came up
00:25:32.620
this thing oh we're gonna roll back speech really bad and what stinks is i can kind of tell like they
00:25:39.140
just are being dumb and they'll figure it out but imagine you're a you know one of the centrists that
00:25:45.000
we're trying to win over i think a lot of those people will look and say the republicans are full
00:25:48.620
of crap they're just huge hypocrites they never cared about this in the first place and the answer
00:25:53.160
is a lot of people like us do care about it and i think even a lot of those guys care about it and
00:25:57.700
they're just they're dumb and kind of weak and they don't pay attention and they they thought they
00:26:05.100
could get an easy win and this is another problem i think a lot of the right has is they always want
00:26:10.560
to just go for some easy win that doesn't really require doing much of anything and so this guy
00:26:15.420
came along and said oh democrats are being dumb we can just pass this five-page bill and it'll show
00:26:21.220
that we're totally way better than the left and now all of the jews will vote for trump this fall
00:26:26.280
and it'll be great and just no no it doesn't work that way calls the bluff and it's gonna put it
00:26:32.240
yeah yeah but charlie like this is what i don't understand this is like what i i really do not get
00:26:37.540
is like i totally expect this out of like a lawler right and out of the new york republican to like
00:26:43.180
come up with this idea right this is like a a very standard like new york republican idea right
00:26:49.240
yeah let's censor our opponent well it's just like it's just like you know try to score points you know
00:26:56.420
and and whatever and i totally get the arguments and all that like republicans are winning over
00:27:01.400
jews and big numbers and so i i understand getting like easy wins politically even
00:27:07.520
if they're cheap wins like that's what the that's like the new york republican party's like whole
00:27:11.460
like mantra right now but like speaker mike johnson is literally what is he a baptist out of louisiana
00:27:17.540
it's like baptist yep it's southern baptist like how are you not like pausing for a moment like
00:27:22.560
calling like your own people no but they here's what's amazing is he was he was warned by eli crane and
00:27:30.740
others and fixed this he's like but eli crane's not like like the baptist extraordinaire i don't know his
00:27:36.680
religious there's no rush there's no rush this isn't the the government shuts down unless you
00:27:41.620
ban portions of the bible yeah but does he have a religious leader that he looks to that he could
00:27:45.620
pick up the phone and be like hey no that's the thing is a bunch of congressmen brought me this
00:27:49.580
how do you think you would feel a lot of pastors have been calling me saying they love this bill
00:27:52.920
are you really like like baptist just all across the spectrum yeah they think they think it's great
00:28:00.580
they think that we have to protect the jews and if it means forsaking free speech so be it not all
00:28:04.700
but some i've gotten 10 or 12 pretty uh forsaking the bible they don't they don't say say it's that
00:28:10.180
they say it's never going to happen that it's uh misreading it the devil's the devil's advocate is
00:28:14.440
that the bible is constitutionally protected and you can't you know wait i just saw these same
00:28:21.220
is it the same guys that got mad about the trump bible no it's it's separate ones but i will say this
00:28:27.060
though my argument to them is wait are memes constitutionally protected because douglas mackey's
00:28:31.700
going to jail for creating a political meme during an election campaign dusting off 150 year old law
00:28:36.520
so don't give me this like the courts are going to save us in the end because the law is sloppily
00:28:40.640
written they're not right i think that is so insane right i think i think it's shallow it is and by
00:28:47.700
the way no one the 14th amendment says we all get equal protection under the law and then they just went
00:28:52.720
and like made it so you could discriminate against white people for the last 50 years and the courts
00:28:56.860
really stopped that yeah i just can trust the law laws will never be abused against conservatives
00:29:03.600
especially the dc well no i just the the and i will say that there has been this is very interesting
00:29:09.480
and i have to get to one of our partners here the the support amongst the conservative movement
00:29:15.060
amongst influencers glenn beck ben shapiro matt walsh it's been pretty unanimous there's very few people
00:29:22.160
that are saying like this is a great idea like i think and i think we set the tone on that pretty
00:29:26.620
early it was like matt walsh and us out of the gate and all of a sudden people like read the bill
00:29:31.980
like yeah this is crazy because again show votes happen all the time they're nothing they just kind
00:29:36.020
of cast them aside this one is not a show vote this is real teeth and schumer is like oh okay and now
00:29:41.580
it just stinks because of course either they have to pass this crappy law which they might or they'll back
00:29:47.040
off and you know the democrats will spin it as you know to make republicans look like they don't
00:29:51.000
prepare they're dumb the senate is anti-semitic like they can do all sorts of silly stuff with it
00:29:56.940
yeah it's just the whole thing is just so poorly concocted and i think blake you make a great point
00:30:01.780
here what's the rush why couldn't mike johnson just be like let's wait a week let me make some calls
00:30:07.500
read this out let's kind of look at all the potential attacks here no and by the way this is very
00:30:12.400
important most bills 90 of all bills go through a committee process do you know this didn't go
00:30:18.520
through committee markup of course it did mike johnson bypassed the committee process in a committee
00:30:24.380
where law bills usually become law someone would have said wait a second this doesn't seem right and
00:30:29.440
you debate and you go through it this they just said no this is so important this is so urgent
00:30:34.780
that we're going to just throw this on the house floor and give joe biden's department of
00:30:39.540
education the ability no reading time no reading time no reading time and the ones who did he also
00:30:45.240
promised 72 hours mike johnson broke another yet promise which again is a theme remember when mike
00:30:50.180
johnson said i'm going to restore the 72 hour rule members literally had like six hours to read this and
00:30:55.320
to think about it and call experts on it he just does the bible say anything they still showed up does
00:31:00.500
the bible say anything about like promises and telling the truth well look beyond the decalogue do
00:31:06.640
not give fault with false witness or false testimony and so here's the other thing that's
00:31:11.400
just like a repetition with mike johnson it's one two three four and then all the republicans who
00:31:16.540
then oppose that now have to come out and give statements so now they're wasting time putting
00:31:20.560
out statements about how why they didn't vote on it what they had to do like can we not have our
00:31:26.720
republicans working on things that we need to get done like i don't know the border yeah like can we
00:31:30.440
not just like do things that are helpful but you know it's really interesting the um this is such a
00:31:35.400
good conversation the uh the media the way they've been covering it you would you would anticipate
00:31:40.880
republicans are anti-semitic the headlines have actually been largely sympathetic to our argument
00:31:46.300
believe it or not the new york times like i mean if you just look at it you look at some of the
00:31:49.880
articles there's kind of saying like right-wingers caution about this bill that is really poorly
00:31:57.220
written it's like the new york times article like that's not like a normal new york times article
00:32:02.060
at all they don't know what to do because the the radical progressives hate it right obvious
00:32:08.900
reasons for obvious reasons the they they want to use it to attack mike johnson to divide us more
00:32:15.820
it's like again this is the political you know textbook political stuff that like is like bad leadership
00:32:22.900
this is yeah so for example newsweek says republicans voting for bill that can make bible illegal
00:32:27.780
outrages maga raw story which is super left-wing fix this house republican spread theory mike johnson
00:32:34.480
just outlawed the new testament no this is my favorite new york times bill to combat anti-semitism
00:32:40.500
on campus prompts backlash from the right pretty fair i mean like that's pretty straight up the usual
00:32:46.440
headlines would be the rights descent into like jew hatred it's like or or christian christian
00:32:52.520
nationalism exactly christian nationalism rears its ugly head and in opposition exactly all right the
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00:34:15.060
much meat on this bone still do you have a thought blake it's just what i would urge all conservatives
00:34:20.640
especially nominal conservatives in congress to do is to remember that as conservatives we care about
00:34:29.400
ideas we care about principles and we care about the actual text of the constitution for reasons above
00:34:36.160
like as a vehicle to obtain power we actually like the bill of rights so if someone says yo this this bill
00:34:44.140
might violate the this you know the bill of rights you should at least take them seriously
00:34:49.680
and read the text of the bill especially if it's only five pages long so james lindsey who's a great
00:34:55.480
friend says this idk who needs to hear this but house republicans did not just vote to make the new
00:35:00.000
testament illegal but we're going to watch a lot of people get radicalized to believe they did how
00:35:03.240
should you respond to that blake i think there's this weird desire to downplay this when it's just
00:35:11.500
obviously a bad bill and is it likely that the worst possible outcomes will come to pass
00:35:17.800
no is there a risk does it make it easier for those bad outcomes to come to pass yes and does it produce
00:35:24.940
literally any upside otherwise no the best case scenario that they are selling us on then
00:35:31.260
is that this is a symbolic bill you should never one i don't think you should pass symbolic bills
00:35:36.760
generally but two if you are it should have a giant sign at top that says this is purely symbolic
00:35:43.280
and does nothing by the way that's what resolutions that's what you have resolutions for
00:35:46.620
yes a resolution has no teeth by definition you resolve to make a statement i think the outcome is
00:35:52.440
most likely what you said charlie which is like this is gonna this is gonna be ugly way later on
00:35:58.540
yes so they'll they'll put it into law and then 10 years from now it'll just be used on on the
00:36:04.440
shelf oh we have that thing because but more laws less justice they control who enforces the law
00:36:09.440
so they find someone who breaks it and go yeah but we like to use canada as an example of bad things
00:36:13.900
that can happen so in the 1980s canada passed their kind of new constitution charter of rights and
00:36:19.060
freedoms i think they call it and i'm sure when they passed that everyone was told this will not have
00:36:24.680
any of those extreme outcomes you worry about and in the early 2000s they started using it to sue and
00:36:30.520
prosecute pastors who opposed gay marriage and such like if they read verses publicly read verses from
00:36:36.720
the bible that condemned homosexuality they got in trouble they were prohibited on distributing
00:36:41.620
literature or preaching and that's just a great example to go to of thing that was definitely never
00:36:47.020
ever going to happen happened and it just took 20 years so what's america going to be like in 20 years
00:36:51.980
if you don't know don't pass laws that can be used by those people well here's what i do know
00:36:57.080
is if the democrats take over the presidency they take over the senate and they take over the house
00:37:02.780
you we're going to see things that are so ugly with the the demolition of the constitution
00:37:11.800
and all of these things are going to be used against that and we talk about this all the time with ppp
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stuff conservatives who took ppp money i think they're gonna have to live with that for the rest of
00:37:21.920
their lives like like literally the democrats are going to come after them they're gonna democrats
00:37:26.240
will come after you for every little thing every large thing and they're going to destroy the
00:37:30.820
constitution in the meantime because also one of the benefits from going after people with a little
00:37:36.020
stupid stuff like this is that they can do big things in the background because our eyes taken off
00:37:42.420
the bar they've sidelined our biggest voices okay let's get the next topic here the good news coming
00:37:47.940
from campus is frat boys apparently we have predicted that it is young young men radicalized
00:37:56.160
we've also witnessed it we've witnessed it we've seen we've i've been telling you tyler for a while
00:38:01.140
young men turning point action energy here if you're a 20 year old young man today you've spent your
00:38:06.260
entire life basically being told all of america's problems are your fault you're the worst thing in the
00:38:12.660
world you're an idiot in every single ad if you're allowed in an ad at all you're the villain of
00:38:18.060
every movie you're the villain of history like you have to read all these books that just say you're
00:38:23.000
the biggest piece of crap in the world and it seems that it's finally boiled over and we have young
00:38:29.320
guys who are tired of being yelled at all the time and they're doing i don't know if we want to call
00:38:35.800
it brave stuff but it's very entertaining stuff and public yes and so uh we saw this recently uh
00:38:42.600
right here at asu where the frat boys were employed to help clean out the uh attempted tent city to
00:38:50.020
protest and then we also had uh this very viral story uh we have a clip from uh fox news reporting
00:38:56.040
on it let's play uh clip number 87 one point yesterday in the quad the that flag was taken down
00:39:05.400
and replaced by a palestinian flag and it was surrounded by it looked like about a hundred
00:39:10.880
of the pro-palestinian activists well shortly after that uh the cops came in and they cleared those
00:39:18.740
people out and they took down the flag and they put up all glory just as it had been and look what
00:40:03.820
swing state so i want to just say this we have been traveling the country and tyler knows this
00:40:08.920
when i do these prove me wrong events thousands of young frat boys will show up
00:40:12.740
they love our content they love turning point usa and i'm telling you on the turning point action side
00:40:17.640
we're gonna have some big announcements in the fall right tyler we're gonna be having ballot
00:40:20.980
bring your ballot events with frat boys marching people with ballots in the midst of october in arizona
00:40:27.200
and in wisconsin and in michigan to get that frat boy energy literally we have ideas because it's 75
00:40:33.700
feet you can't campaign with a 75 feet perimeter is that right of a polling place of a polling place
00:40:39.620
so we're gonna draw like you know 100 feet outside of the drop box
00:40:42.720
and we'll just have an event with like a bunch of young alpha men at asu and be like hey come get a
00:40:47.520
picture of charlie or don jr vivek and bring your ballot you gotta if you bring a ballot you get a picture
00:40:55.800
if you want a great precedent here have you ever heard of the hard hat riot of 1970
00:41:09.620
you know he's bombing cambodia in the vietnam war
00:41:11.700
there were a ton of student strikes student protests student occupations
00:41:23.200
a thousand demonstrator or like a bunch of office workers and blue collar workers so
00:41:29.740
show up with uh american flags chanting pro usa slogans
00:41:33.960
and they get in a fight with all of the students
00:41:45.120
and then i assume everything worked out for him after that
00:41:47.500
and you know nothing bad happened to nixon after that
00:41:53.940
i believe politically this is a glitch in the polling matrix
00:42:06.420
and if it manifests donald trump does five or six points better
00:42:31.620
uh this was something that the gop did for years
00:42:36.600
even back when i first started doing field work
00:42:40.080
that it was very clear that we would work with frats
00:46:47.200
you're about 35 percent likely to vote for trump
00:47:20.920
to try to influence the election ahead of october
00:47:30.880
and they raised a lot of money for a party right
00:47:39.100
because you did something called the triad claw
01:05:36.180
it's it's it's gone lower and it's ticked up it
01:05:45.560
but now it's back up to 1.94 so for families who
01:05:57.680
decided to no longer have kids or people who are
01:06:03.120
rise of something that's completely new in america
01:06:05.480
the dink couple so double income no kids and then
01:06:08.920
also the rise of simply or i should say the decline in
01:06:12.920
marriage rates and so you've got this is really
01:06:16.000
something where i know there's a lot of people who want
01:06:18.520
to run around and just point to one thing and say oh it's
01:06:21.580
video games or oh it's weed or oh it's porn or oh it's
01:06:24.560
easy access to abortion and the real and you know it's
01:06:29.440
the real answer is it's it's actually a lot of factors it's a
01:06:34.200
lot of factors combined um uh one thing that i do think we
01:06:37.800
should talk about though is economy because it's certainly
01:06:39.960
uh something that gets left out of the conversation a lot economy
01:06:43.260
does play a role as does by the way the high levels of
01:06:46.340
immigration that america is currently receiving
01:06:48.520
high levels of immigration lead to downward pressure on wages
01:06:52.280
downward and upward pressure on the housing market this in turn
01:06:56.400
makes it harder for people to have money on in terms of real wages
01:07:00.200
and it makes that it gives us the housing crisis that we are
01:07:02.720
currently in and so aoc i remember made this point a lot of
01:07:06.040
people make this point all the time in the immigration debate
01:07:08.420
they say we need more immigrants elon musk says it all the time even
01:07:11.640
though i've been correcting him and he's getting better at it
01:07:14.160
they keep saying we need more immigrants because the birth rate is down
01:07:17.820
but they're not actually assessing the fact that the high
01:07:21.800
immigration rate is actually depressing our birth rate
01:07:25.800
that's right i think what actually a reason that that is the case
01:07:31.120
is i think really high when you have really high immigration and
01:07:36.360
you can see the community around you changing extremely rapidly
01:07:40.040
it's sort of it breaks the cultural script that you live in
01:07:45.340
uh it's an interesting phenomenon because we can sort of see this
01:07:48.840
they've tried to study this in individual like villages in india
01:07:52.040
because you'll have villages in india that have like high birth rates and ones
01:07:56.480
and it's like when you break up the the narratives that give society its force
01:08:03.380
and so i think it's actually probably lots of diversity lots of change
01:08:10.160
it makes people feel detached from everything they don't get what their role in the world is
01:08:15.940
and it's that feeling of having a role in a greater whole that makes you want to perpetuate it
01:08:22.000
and makes you pair off with someone and have a family and and keep it all going
01:08:25.920
and we've sort of blown that up and you just are an atomized person and when you live in that
01:08:32.800
and you feel like you're not living for anything it's very easy to just check out and say yeah what
01:08:36.980
matters most is like have a lot of fun and then you know punch your ticket out well and i think
01:08:41.980
final thought tyler yeah oh i was just gonna say i think social media plays such a role into that i think
01:08:46.440
instagram alone has i don't know what the rates look like since instagram like came out but like with
01:08:52.240
women who generally wear the pants in the relationship when it comes to determining when births are going to happen
01:09:00.100
uh i i hear they have a big part in that they they play a big part in that i don't ask a liberal but
01:09:06.540
you know that's that's the big thing they're on instagram you have your your women in america
01:09:12.280
and in pocketed communities they're looking at everything that everybody else says every other
01:09:18.220
family does and you know knowing their role in society in a family in their own community i think is
01:09:26.260
really interesting it's like part of that conversation we'll pick this up next week guys
01:09:30.760
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