Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 44 — Is Doxxing Dead？ Poo-Loving Libs？ The Truth About Pearl Harbor？

00:00:00.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to this week's edition of thought crime we got a huge

00:00:04.240 show today as well as a special guest mike bends joins us while charlie kirk is on assignment but

00:00:11.380 we get into the rise and fall of doxing slovakia assassination attempt will this lead to world war

00:00:18.840 three what happens if there's an electoral tie and why does it seem like the establishment

00:00:23.960 is wanting this and finally gay animal planet the german politician licking toilets and this new

00:00:32.480 painting of king charles and what the heck is going on there ladies and gentlemen strap in it's time

00:00:39.140 to commit thought crimes from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you

00:00:44.920 dns specifically tell us the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications

00:00:51.140 okay happy thought crime thursday jack posobic here charlie is on assignment but we've got a

00:01:09.660 really strong show we've also got a very special guest we're going to save that for last i'm here

00:01:17.300 in washington dc but over in phoenix we've got our illustrious co-host mr blake neft what's up

00:01:23.140 like hello i survive i persist you cannot get rid of me jack it will happen the day will come your day

00:01:31.860 will come but of course the day has already come for our other co-host in phoenix tyler where what's

00:01:36.600 up tyler what's up guys how we doing yo that hat is awesome where'd you get that this is actually oh

00:01:44.100 man now you put me on the spot i can't remember is that an official hat no no this is um no it's

00:01:50.540 not official i think this is chad's is that the brand okay i don't i don't know my hat it's it's

00:01:57.340 all right it's with uh let me see here uh i think it's two a's chad anyways i'll pull it up are they

00:02:07.480 are they are they sponsor if they're not they better be and are we do have a very special guest before we

00:02:13.240 get into our thought crimes ladies and gentlemen all the way from parts unknown mr mike ben's mike

00:02:17.900 ben cyber what's up brother how you guys doing great to see you tonight yeah i'm just kidding

00:02:22.700 me it's pretty obviously like miami area but but you know ben's is like the least obsec aware

00:02:28.700 of all of us

00:02:30.100 you would probably like there there have been times where drone strikes have been called in just

00:02:40.560 because like somebody posted a picture from a balcony just saying no he's not worried maybe

00:02:45.660 maybe someone will send me a love letter you know in a drone that's what i'm waiting for

00:02:49.820 yeah he's the guy you know people there's opening sound effects you know we have like if they want

00:02:55.880 to get you they'll get you they're basically saying that about about mike ben's that's for people

00:03:01.600 who don't know uh introduce yourself real quick hey what's up i'm mike uh i run the foundation for

00:03:07.900 freedom online uh my mission in life is to restore the promise of a free and open internet

00:03:13.040 and uh you know setting free speech free so i'm here to serve that mission we love it and for all

00:03:21.340 of our rumble followers i think i think mike ben's will be no uh no stranger to you guys so i want to get

00:03:27.000 into our first topic blake you have a rundown on this it's called the death of doxing all right yes

00:03:33.520 we have a good topic to open with this week it's not bad news it's good news so doxing has uh hurt

00:03:39.640 many people including myself in a rather dramatic way do you know anything about doxing exactly exactly

00:03:45.900 but uh so they they tried to they tried to pull another one on us this week and it failed

00:03:52.860 really comically hard uh the target of uh this doxing attempt was a guy on twitter who goes by

00:03:59.000 the nom de guerre lomez and he got doxed by uh jason wilson of the guardian for uh being the head of uh

00:04:07.660 passage press that's a new publication house they publish uh new editions of some old books uh by kind

00:04:14.940 of just prominent like old like reactionary conservative uh writers of various strands

00:04:22.100 and then they also do some new books they notably put out the uh collection of steve saylor's

00:04:27.440 writings called noticing and they've got some other books coming out in the near future i can't remember

00:04:32.380 which ones they have specifically but he's behind that and so the guardian was just seething

00:04:37.640 seething that it existed seething that lomez was on twitter and not known that that is that is wilson

00:04:44.140 that is not lomez thankfully that is that is wilson that's the man who did the doxing he looks um he's not

00:04:50.120 i don't think he's officially related to job of the hut i think it's merely a coincidental

00:04:55.460 he reminds me of that annoying guy in the toyota commercials oh that's gruesome yeah okay we'll see

00:05:01.760 if they can find that one but yeah so he is a most unfortunate looking person and a most with the

00:05:05.920 most unfortunate soul within remember if you're ugly on the outside you're ugly on the inside too

00:05:10.960 i think unless you're me judge all but our judge all books by their covers which of course since

00:05:17.640 we're talking about a public king a publication house uh i would say that's that's quite apropos

00:05:22.600 no there's the do we have the picture of lomez because he's been you know i wasn't sure if he

00:05:27.320 so we had him on on my show earlier this week and uh he wasn't um you know i told him i said look if

00:05:33.280 you don't want your picture out there you don't have to do video you can do audio only but he was like

00:05:37.420 no let's let's go ahead and do it and he put his name out there and he was more than happy to show

00:05:41.060 his face and let's just say he's um he don't look like jason wilson he looks like a totally

00:05:46.080 normal guy that you would just see walking down the street which is kind of part of the big problem

00:05:52.020 for this doxing attempt is like nobody can actually really understand why they decided to dox this guy

00:05:58.040 uh because there wasn't really anything they found in there other than like he supported i don't

00:06:02.620 know basic right-wing things like he supported kyle rittenhouse the funniest thing about it the

00:06:08.060 funniest thing about it is like if you bring up the article here i've got the article on the uh on

00:06:12.080 the side computer here if you bring up the article they have photos of all of these other people so

00:06:18.200 they're like oh here's ernst junger he's a german world war one veteran who wrote some books and they

00:06:23.200 published him like here's ernst junger here's peter wrangle leader of the rush whites what they never

00:06:28.940 have in this doxing article that exists to reveal someone's identity they never have a photo of lomez

00:06:35.220 himself and the answer is because lomez is way hotter looking than the guy doxing him and it's basically

00:06:42.840 like then you can you can find the so it turns out he was a college professor at um is it uh uc irvine

00:06:50.100 yeah uc irvine english professor and you can find his rate my professors page and there are there are

00:06:55.220 reviews not new ones these are reviews from five years ago where they're just like oh my god he's

00:07:00.600 so hot and he's a good and he's a good you know instructor he's good at that but he's mostly hot

00:07:07.500 were you the were you the rating for writing i was not i nearly i nearly investigated this i you know

00:07:16.820 like did you submit ratings i did not submit any ratings did you dark web ratings no no stop it

00:07:22.920 tyler you're out of control no look i'll all i'm saying is you know like we're all perfectly

00:07:30.520 straight here but if we weren't you know

00:07:33.940 i don't know mike's the relationship status but jack and i have really great you know

00:07:43.920 beards so oh you have great beards yeah or was that is that how i guess yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:07:51.540 here oh before we're on by the way uh because completely on rails here's here's the real

00:07:57.960 question about this topic is that you know blake you know more than anyone that doxing and canceling

00:08:04.840 in the past was extremely powerful and so i want to throw this to ben's real quick since we've got him

00:08:10.420 on it's and and ben's you were someone who they tried to go after you and they were like oh he had

00:08:15.620 like a fake podcast and all this stuff and it was ridiculous and it was like a one-day story and they

00:08:20.300 hold it over your head for like weeks beforehand oh we're digging into your past we're digging up all

00:08:26.220 the skeletons and then the story runs and they always kind of backfire i feel like ever since elon

00:08:32.680 bought twitter and darren b we're all mutual friends with darren had along a couple of tweet threads

00:08:37.660 about this saying that the whole kind of hierarchy of doxing is now completely inverted explain to me

00:08:44.700 why that is mike well you know that meme where it's like someone calls you a racist and then you

00:08:52.560 and you're like in a crowd of people they call you a racist and then you go to the corner by yourself

00:08:57.260 and then they call another person race and that person sort of comes in and then suddenly the whole

00:09:02.660 party is like with the people who've been called race you know that that meme and it's i think that

00:09:07.480 effect happens for pretty much everything now because cancel culture during this sort of peak

00:09:13.020 of unchallenged wokeness you know i mean it's sort of in tandem with this push against wokeness altogether

00:09:18.600 i mean the fact is like it's not just elon who's you know leading an anti-wokeness crusade so to speak

00:09:25.740 bill ackman i mean giant institutional investors um you have uh you have joe rogan turning against it

00:09:32.520 you have jerry seinfeld turning against it you know the linchpin of what made wokeness powerful

00:09:37.680 was the threat to cancel you if you didn't go along with the program and i think back you know

00:09:43.680 five six seven eight years ago it was one of those things where it really was the kiss of death to be

00:09:48.900 canceled because it was a very small clique of people who were canceled but now pretty much everybody

00:09:55.020 who's lived through the trump era and has and is still a trump supporter uh is you know is is in a

00:10:01.720 party of canceled people everyone experienced i think what it felt like to be a trump supporter and

00:10:06.040 be canceled from something because if you're a trump supporter you are de facto a racist a sexist uh you

00:10:13.920 know a homophobe uh pick pick your ism and so i think you know basically it got to be the point where

00:10:19.880 when people started to get canceled it was like oh cool here's another person for the party

00:10:22.960 and i think that's what happened lomas it's like hey cool you're on a bus come join

00:10:28.480 yeah it's also kind of like like hey these people are interesting we should check them out

00:10:34.980 these days like oh they're going after somebody new and it and in this case it really was somebody

00:10:39.640 new because lomas i think he only had like 25 000 followers on twitter um which which is decent to say

00:10:45.200 to say the least um but it's it's not like this was some huge you know millions of followers yeah it's

00:10:51.520 not like like lives of tiktok when they went after her but that's also a great example of this

00:10:55.740 of what i'm talking about as well because when they went after lives of tiktok and they doxed her

00:10:59.980 she only became 10 times more powerful than she originally was like you're saying well so uh a guy

00:11:06.940 we all know uh darren beady had a pretty good take on this on uh twitter the other day where he just

00:11:12.280 points out like one of the most important things is there's kind of a herd immunity effect if you're

00:11:17.880 only cancellation is the sort of thing if you're going to do it once it's incredibly powerful where

00:11:22.500 you just say this one person is just not acceptable and shove them out but they they really started to

00:11:28.320 do it a lot they were doing it you know to several like i guess they did it to like dozens of people

00:11:32.980 in 2020 and they've tried to keep doing it since and it's just at the point where you know you look

00:11:39.340 around and there's like 30 people who've been doxxed or canceled on the right and so everyone just

00:11:44.440 thinks wait is this actually a big deal anymore and i think people are concluding it's not and

00:11:51.200 also you just eventually needed the point where a few places would go yeah we're just going to

00:11:55.680 ignore that the more passes you've got on it the more understanding there is on how to beat it and

00:12:01.700 it turns out that the best way to defeat any doxing attempt there's basically two paths you can do you

00:12:06.620 can literally just laugh at them and laugh at the person attempting to do it but one that works

00:12:11.120 and it especially works if they actually have i don't want to say something valid but like something

00:12:16.760 that at least is like mildly bad looking for you is you just ignore it every it's a lot like uh any

00:12:24.080 other hostile news story so much of the energy comes from trying to like push back or dispute something

00:12:30.680 or argue with it and that all that is is an excuse for them to write another article about it and then

00:12:35.440 like repeat everything so the way you beat it is you just pretend it didn't happen and you issue no

00:12:40.180 comment uh and we saw a lot of that um i can't remember there was one that happened i want to

00:12:46.440 say earlier this year where it's like they doxed and just every single person who they try to cite

00:12:50.660 and it just says no comment and then what's the news story there's no one comments on it i think that

00:12:55.020 was the hanania one oh yeah yeah i think it was that one and so yeah it's like they hit up these like

00:12:59.740 venture capitalists or like people who donated to uh his they kept trying to get him canceled from

00:13:06.960 various things and everybody was just like yeah we don't only the only place they succeeded with

00:13:12.300 was the university of austin which was supposed to be like the anti-canceling upstart university

00:13:18.760 thing it was kind of funny and then but everywhere else just said yeah no comment and that's the

00:13:26.380 solution you just say no comment as we're having this conversation and since since blake has said it

00:13:31.080 so many times blake if you can handle it let's um let's play or show clip 174 show show number 174

00:13:37.740 please and uh we can show everybody what exactly it is that blake or who exactly it is that blake was

00:13:46.240 just gushing over on his rate my professor page and it's it's it's very interesting tyler while they

00:13:54.060 well they pull that up tyler i want to get your thoughts on this yeah i mean i are we pulling up

00:14:02.200 the rate my professor page right now is that we're doing uh 174 picture yeah 174 yeah i mean i just

00:14:10.100 think doxing is stupid and we were just talking about like this entire thing is like doxing and

00:14:15.560 swatting are like the like they've got to be like the the lamest things that you could possibly do

00:14:21.340 yeah and it's all like it's just basically it just to me just like it's it's the equivalent of

00:14:26.940 children just like tattle telling on people and like hoping that like your parent or someone else

00:14:33.300 cares and that's to me what like doxing is and like like you said and the best way to handle it is

00:14:39.100 if you don't respond if nobody responds to it if everybody nobody feeds into the fire yeah or i mean

00:14:44.680 if you can resist you can respond as long as like the response is to like you can't really engage

00:14:50.520 with their moral framing of it you have to have contempt for their moral framing uh the libertarian

00:14:57.280 economist brian kaplan who i otherwise disagree with on a lot of issues but one of the things he

00:15:01.300 likes to point out whenever they do cancel stuff is he says you should always ask yourself is this

00:15:06.500 worse than cheating on your wife and then leaving her and your children to like be with a side piece

00:15:11.000 because people do that all the time yeah public people do that all the time all the time and we

00:15:16.900 just like shrug and move on and say you know that's like a private matter like a congressman

00:15:20.280 yeah like congress like congressman movie stars athletes now like mccormick and georgia today

00:15:25.160 oh yeah we want to mention everyone's like you're reading you're like oh yeah you know that's too bad

00:15:32.080 that's pretty bad like that's whatever but most people are like yeah whatever at least accept that

00:15:37.460 that that happened or like we tolerate the existence of that and then we turn around or for that matter

00:15:42.620 we're we're supposed to be forgiving of people who sometimes have committed horrible crimes that

00:15:46.500 have like named or even killed people and then we have to turn around and they're like

00:15:50.920 mr neff said a mean thing on the internet one time oh my oh my god oh yeah and then fox news calls

00:15:59.100 you horrific and does all these other mean things to you uh not that not just hypothetically

00:16:04.880 uh real quick we should have i'd like to say which is that oh yeah we're just gonna say everybody

00:16:11.040 oh yeah go ahead sorry sorry i didn't want to do this uh we have a conservative cheryl as a monthly

00:16:15.520 supporter so we want to say thank you uh to read all rumble we'll read all rumble rants today if

00:16:21.120 anyone wants to make any and we will acknowledge all subscribers so thank you very much for that

00:16:25.460 cheryl now you can go mike oh i was just gonna say the other thing is i think everybody has a certain

00:16:32.120 fear of being canceled themselves and is aware that when you throw other people under the bus they

00:16:37.000 will not come to your support when they when it comes for you so there has been i think jack sort

00:16:42.180 of referred to it as a kind of herd immunity which is like but i think that's part of that comes from

00:16:46.440 the fact that when you see someone get canceled i think it used to be the case when you didn't have

00:16:51.140 that same fear there was an instinct to kind of dog pile and virtue signal and get your sort of

00:16:56.120 you know you know pokemon points from the whole thing but now i think the fear of of having

00:17:01.800 seen so many other people get swallowed up by it you don't want to be a dog piler because then who is

00:17:06.560 going to support you when the dog pile is on you and there's kind of a similar thing with the

00:17:10.560 censorship situation you know internet censorship really started you know against the kind of very

00:17:14.860 fringe element in 2017 you know the kind of section of the mega crowd that was very easy for the sort

00:17:21.920 of mainstream republican crowd to say well you know what censorship's not a great thing but we can't

00:17:28.400 defend these people and then the next layer up and then the next layer up and then the next layer up

00:17:34.020 and then suddenly you know marjorie taylor green is getting censored and ron and uh not uh rand paul

00:17:40.900 is getting censored and then the president united states is the platform and that's like okay you know

00:17:45.240 what free speech for everybody because you know what we're up against is such a monster that we all need

00:17:50.880 to have each other's back you know even even if we have internal disagreements to some extent and i think

00:17:55.340 that's sort of what's happened with the cancer culture you know another thing that's also good

00:17:59.860 is as you mentioned the herd immunity but it's also that at this point we've had many cancellation

00:18:05.160 attempts and what each of those are is it's kind of an opportunity for every single person who's a

00:18:10.540 bystander to kind of pass or fail a test and so if you're on the right you actually have a pretty

00:18:17.140 good understanding now who is trustworthy to stand by people when bad stuff happens to them

00:18:22.100 and who has failed this and over time as a result of this you have a stronger conservative movement

00:18:27.880 because you're basically everyone is collectively selecting for who's not going to wuss out when

00:18:34.120 things get hard and so it's like brotherhood of steel or some stupid cheesy sounding analogy for

00:18:40.460 this but that's a great point virtue signaling is sort of in the opposite direction now whereas like

00:18:45.060 before it was like a virtue signal to join the dog pile now it's a virtue signal to say screw the

00:18:50.880 dog pile you know i was trying to give the other set of fingers but i don't know if this is a family

00:18:55.360 show so my mom is watching and um and actually for the blur you have a blur button don't you

00:19:02.680 uh yeah no no i just call it the blake button we just we just we have a delay on the show but just

00:19:08.240 for blake um so this was this was set up after the lawyers reached out to us and said look blake is

00:19:14.300 involved in numerous indictments farra investigations um he's been working with the mob the mexican drug

00:19:21.520 cartels apparently blake has been like selling fentanyl around the turning point studios it's very

00:19:26.120 interesting um and so so yeah we just got a dumb button but it only affects him actually there's a

00:19:31.840 loose brick in one of these walls that i think has his mom do you see the background here of these

00:19:38.540 loose bricks there's a certain one you gotta tap it it's a hollow so it's actually uh leaving the

00:19:44.240 cooking at the white house but he's like the white diddy but the real the real last section

00:19:51.320 the white diddy that's that is rough that is rough wasn't that jeffrey epstein um but well um and

00:19:59.900 let me just let me put the last um the last question you on before we move to the next topic

00:20:05.420 which you know before we're completely canceled is um what is it so there there's a a a connection

00:20:12.840 there's a direct connection between censorship and doxing because usually the you know the way it all

00:20:19.720 worked before elon bought twitter was someone got doxed someone committed wrong think or as we would

00:20:26.720 say around here someone committed a thought crime and then they would get suspended from twitter and

00:20:32.040 canceled from you know public society they're trying to do the same thing to this uh this nfl kicker for

00:20:37.240 the chiefs right now because he like gave a catholic uh you know convocation speech a catholic university

00:20:43.380 and you know they're going after him now and so the problem though is because the censorship has

00:20:49.700 been shut down and and and also yeah the speaking of doxing the kansas city like twitter account

00:20:56.400 some employee rogue employee there actually tweeted out where he lives um completely insane so you know

00:21:03.060 canceling doxing leads to canceling doxing can lead to swatting which is something my family's

00:21:07.480 experienced uh and a number of people in the movement have experienced because once they realize they

00:21:12.100 can't censor you and they become impotent with their canceling attempts they just try to move on to

00:21:16.500 other means so ben's walk me through how it used to work and why they are becoming so desperate

00:21:23.100 yeah well there used to be something called a well it's still here but it's called media escalation

00:21:28.460 which is the which is the inbound email that a platform gets when there's been a hit piece on

00:21:33.720 somebody and the the news you know the journalist whether they're from the new york times the washington

00:21:39.460 post or buzzfeed or politico will not just sort of ask for comment from the target of the of the

00:21:46.740 dox attack but they would also send a concomitant email to youtube if they had a youtube account to

00:21:52.620 facebook with their facebook account to twitter for their twitter account and basically send a

00:21:57.780 threatening email to them saying do you know that you are hosting a person who's engaged in hate speech

00:22:03.140 and this is a major brand safety risk for you don't you know and don't you know advertisers are going

00:22:08.780 to respond very poorly when they see this story and this this uh this would be a media escalation that

00:22:14.420 the the inbound would run up the chain to the you know to the higher levels at those social media

00:22:19.640 companies and so it was you know it was a very effective tactic for actually achieving cancellation

00:22:24.960 because it would go hand in glove with a kind of de-platforming because of the business interests of

00:22:31.200 the platform in order to keep their advertisers who themselves were under the gun by various other

00:22:35.800 forms of pressure and you know that that hand gesture that i was going to make earlier um was uh was one

00:22:42.600 that elon musk made in a very powerful gesture when he basically formally eschewed that entire

00:22:49.180 coercion process when he said gfy to advertisers and said you know we're we're going to basically build

00:22:57.460 our own pirate ship through subscriptions and through through other kinds of products and services like

00:23:02.100 you know the premium and grok and other and the other assets frankly that elon has from his empire

00:23:06.660 but not being subservient to to to advertisers in in a total in a totalizing fashion and trying to

00:23:13.660 diversify the business has actually and the fact that he's willing to lose money on the platform

00:23:18.640 in order to preserve free speech has made it so that twitter is actually one of these places now that

00:23:23.840 is pretty much rock solid when these in terms of your platform security where that was not the case

00:23:29.060 under the jack dorsey era jack dorsey even said the whole reason he banned trump was because of a

00:23:33.060 business decision around how they were going to financially destroy the company unless he did

00:23:37.560 also i'm i'm seeing some people in chat by the way who are asking and perhaps this is remiss of us for

00:23:43.680 not saying so there are people asking what is doxing and doxing is different layers different

00:23:48.360 definitions i would say my tightest definition would be number one um taking something or someone who

00:23:55.700 was anonymous on the internet and publishing their name and then the next level of that is publishing

00:24:01.480 their personal information i don't know would you guys anything different to that yeah it's like i

00:24:06.840 think the original use of it would be publishing just someone's home address for the purpose of like

00:24:11.820 trying to harass them or annoy them and then what you started to get during the cancel culture era

00:24:17.240 was you would take someone who was anonymous anonymous online and then publicize their identity for the

00:24:24.720 sake of shaming them getting them fired getting them humiliated all that sort of thing and then

00:24:31.100 i feel like that's become the main purpose of it is just the stuff like this we're like we're gonna

00:24:36.740 show lomez's identity so that we can try to ruin his life in some capacity especially if there's no

00:24:43.380 other justification for this other than just we want to blow this person up um and so that's kind of

00:24:49.480 what it mostly refers to i feel like you don't hear it used as much for just publishing someone's

00:24:54.540 address you do see that sometimes i guess with like uh like when they were posting brett kavanaugh's

00:24:59.380 address so that they could try to get him murdered but that's about the only case i can think of when i

00:25:05.520 when i got doxxed uh human turd and his turd throwing wife eric wemple of the washington post

00:25:11.220 showed up at the place where i lived but i wasn't there at the time but which is probably for the best

00:25:15.900 because i think if i'd been there i probably would have like kicked him in the nuts or something

00:25:18.980 but didn't happen i wasn't there there was no showdown but you should look up eric wemple

00:25:24.660 and how his wife once uh threw a piece of dog poop at someone yeah and uh doxing originally came from

00:25:31.080 you know the uh dropping docs like d-o-c-s docs that's where documents yeah it was like documents

00:25:39.540 for compiling a dossier right so that's like where it originally came from

00:25:43.620 but you can't dog you can't get docs if you dox yourself which is what i live by which everyone

00:25:49.620 was like why do you put so much personal information on the internet i'm like because

00:25:53.000 we have a constitutional carry state here in arizona that's true yeah that's to be afraid of

00:25:59.020 and i have cookies we said in the chat you just provide cookies to everybody when they show up

00:26:03.120 and then they're like oh they were wrong about you on the internet

00:26:06.380 do you keep any like emergency cookies that might have certain substances in them you know

00:26:12.620 uh like chocolate or like snicker noodles have uh he's trying to sell fentanyl to you man

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00:27:43.300 perhaps you might want to know about our next topic and i'm going to leave i'm going to send this over

00:27:49.040 to mike benz because uh so did did france ferdinand just happen again because we just had an

00:27:55.980 assassination you know attempt in slovakia uh france ferdinand for people who don't know

00:28:01.740 is the assassination in sarajevo where the heir to the or i should say the heir apparent to the

00:28:08.240 austro-hungarian empire was killed this set off a ching reaction that we refer to as world war one

00:28:14.180 uh eastern europe of course is the uh the birthplace of both world wars so world war ii kicks off

00:28:20.760 in poland 1939 so my question vends is world war iii going to kick off in slovakia

00:28:26.600 i don't know about world war iii he did survive the assassination attempt you know it looks like when

00:28:33.080 the dust has settled it'll probably be closer to a sort of bolsonaro situation when he was uh stabbed

00:28:39.200 while while attending uh an event you know in uh 2018-2019 and i think that uh you know in this

00:28:47.040 case it does look like he's likely to make a recovery from what i'm seeing although that will

00:28:51.080 i guess remains to be seen but you know there's a bigger picture here of yeah of who of who done it

00:28:58.340 and why and i have been fascinated by slovakia for some time because you know it's one of these you

00:29:04.860 know v4 visigrad for countries which is uh very critical for the foreign policy establishments

00:29:12.840 control over uh as a buttress to ukraine and as a key puzzle piece in the grand ukraine energy play

00:29:21.280 the grand ukraine energy play is is basically this move by by nato energy stakeholders and uh the

00:29:29.280 whole atlanta council uh atlantis's foreign policy set to make uh you know basically a trillion dollars

00:29:35.740 in windfall profits by prying off the natural gas market of europe which until about 20 years ago was

00:29:44.120 a hundred percent controlled by russia which meant which made gazprom the single largest company in the

00:29:50.200 entire world in 2005 2006 and then through state department coerced european energy diversification

00:29:56.880 policies uh because russia has the cheapest gas and the most most plentiful and otherwise you had to buy

00:30:02.440 more expensive western lng there's been uh the the big a big part of the move here and a big part of the

00:30:09.000 ukraine coup in 2014 was to pry russian gas off of europe and replace it with gas coming from the west

00:30:18.000 of ukraine rather than the east and a central part of that linchpin plan has been the resupply see

00:30:26.400 ukraine has has played such a vital role in the gas market not because of all the gas that's in ukraine

00:30:32.480 but because of the gas transit from ukraine into europe from russia there's there's legacy architecture

00:30:39.100 that dates back a hundred years and these pipelines are expensive they're difficult to maintain they're

00:30:44.120 deeply interconnected that's why there's 15 to 30 year contracts on these things and so the ideal

00:30:48.260 situation is you cut off the russian gas from the east and you simply have a new entry point for for

00:30:55.440 uh from the gas but you keep all of that legacy architecture that goes all the way you know out to

00:31:00.760 out to rotterdam and the and the way that they have plotted to do that is through primarily through

00:31:06.620 poland poland has this vast new set of gas architecture that can take lng coming in from the

00:31:13.880 baltic sea and then connect through through terminals from poland into ukraine and this is

00:31:20.000 why the political leadership of poland has been such an important thing for nato to control and as we just

00:31:25.360 saw with this uh with what just happened uh there a few months ago but poland's ports themselves run

00:31:31.540 through slovakia now this is very important because slovakia has been on the edge for some time now uh the

00:31:39.260 the uh the near assassinated president there robert fico has has pledged to uh to not go through with

00:31:48.600 the their their gas contracts with uh with russia uh they have one set ending in 2024 and another set

00:31:56.260 ending in 2027 and they pledged to restore those those gas contracts with russia and not cooperate with

00:32:03.100 the with the desired sanctions of the eu they are also putting pressure on ukraine to restore gas

00:32:09.760 relations with russia both hungary and slovakia are having conversations about having having ukraine

00:32:17.540 restore some limited amount of engagement with the ukrainian gas market this new president has

00:32:23.320 basically rejected the nato line on the ukraine-russia war and because of the leverage they have over the

00:32:29.960 eu and nato because the whole grand ukraine energy play the whole trillion dollar play to run lng through

00:32:36.240 poland into ukraine runs through slovakia if this if the if the if this new prime minister decides hey

00:32:43.320 you know what actually goes you're gonna put sanctions on us uh if we don't go along with with

00:32:49.100 your war or you're going to uh you're gonna we have a trump card over you which is that goodbye to the

00:32:55.300 gas transit to ukraine which by the way is all of ukraine's national revenue essentially because

00:33:01.480 in order for that gas to go from poland ukraine you need to go through us and so because of that

00:33:07.220 there has been an an incredible amount of nato and cia and soros malfeasance to use the rental riots

00:33:15.440 to use the whole regime change blob architecture to try to uh to try to regime change fico's leadership

00:33:23.700 now this this has happened in tandem with fico trying to establish to trying to rot root out

00:33:28.860 the ngos from the blob that are similar to as they were in belarus you guys remember that famous clip

00:33:35.120 of alexander lukashenko talking to i think a bbc reporter where he says we've removed all your

00:33:40.580 little structures you know when he's asked why there's no free there's no free speech in belarus

00:33:44.880 and lukashenko saying that's not free speech those were cia proprietaries essentially those were

00:33:49.500 those were those ngos were your pawns they were your structures you know this is not a free speech

00:33:54.540 issue we simply this is a counterintelligence issue well that's the same thing in slovakia slovakia has

00:34:00.140 been totally controlled as a nato vassal state um until the past few years when basically they've

00:34:06.760 been pushed to the brink and this new president wrote in on on a populist outrage over over that

00:34:11.840 nato vassalage and so you know what they've what they've done now is is three months before this

00:34:17.320 actually you know these nato rhetoric rights just like in georgia were taken to the streets

00:34:20.900 because of a new law that was essentially kind of like a far out law which basically said that you

00:34:26.740 know foreign-owned media in the country would not be allowed on on state radio or public broadcasting

00:34:32.620 on tv like this is important for you all the opposition media in the country was being backed

00:34:40.280 by the cia by way of the national endowment for democracy so it was it was an astroturf opposition

00:34:45.860 movement the entire time and but but that is their stool to be able to twist the judiciary oh the

00:34:51.140 other thing is they had a special prosecutor probe into to try to uh to try to robert muller or jack

00:34:57.360 smith robert fico out of office and fico has just recently gestured that he's going to end that special

00:35:02.820 prosecutor probe so now they're trying to so they did another set of rental riots there to try to uh to

00:35:08.680 try to you know basically argue that oh rule of law rule of law in slovakia is overturned because now

00:35:14.540 we might not be able to throw him in jail like we threw enron khan in jail or donald trump in jail

00:35:18.640 but whose rule of law is it it's not your country that's slovakia so that's what the slovakian people

00:35:24.480 to decide so for folks folks who are are watching and or if anyone's watching listening back on the

00:35:30.160 podcast side on audio slovakia we've got the map up right now just south of poland just north of

00:35:35.720 hungary uh it's very close to romania again this is the whole neighborhood and what do all of the

00:35:41.560 countries that ben's is talking about share a border with ukraine and of course poland and

00:35:47.080 belarus are next to each other belarus also just to the north of ukraine and so this has been highly

00:35:52.380 caustic i want to throw out to blake blake you know we've seen this situation ben's has talked

00:35:57.920 about how this is a guy who's definitely a huge thorn in the side of uh nato collective west all of

00:36:03.980 that um you know sort of a you know he's definitely an orban uh type you know as we say we we know that the

00:36:10.640 guy who did this was like a 71 year old like ultra lib in slovakia definitely one of these like

00:36:16.140 anti-putin nafo types but i'll put it this way rather than get into you know whether or not he

00:36:21.260 was like actually working on cia orders i i guess my bigger question the thought crime is like does

00:36:27.560 do you think this is something that could spiral the the neighborhood into a wider war i mean it's a

00:36:34.540 classic case of why all of this is so ridiculous where you have nato an alliance that was created

00:36:41.180 like for the security of the west you know so it's the u.s and our crucial post world war ii allies

00:36:49.680 to contain an aggressive foreign ideology of international communism which is the soviet union

00:36:55.220 and its satellite states and then after the cold war ends we just decide to add every random country in

00:37:02.320 the world into nato and that you know and there might have been there was some justification for

00:37:07.300 that i understand it but now it's clearly become it's become a means to instead of protect the u.s

00:37:14.700 and keep us at peace it's become a thing that just sucks us into like it just sucks us into these dumb

00:37:23.560 things like i don't want to be mean i'm sure slovakia is nice i'm sure i'm sure that horror movie

00:37:29.840 hostile that took place there is not accurate i'm sure bradislava is cool but it's a country of

00:37:36.460 like four million it's because you're like four million people four or five million people it's

00:37:41.060 like middle income mountains of the carpathians they're absolutely gorgeous i'm sure it's lovely

00:37:46.400 lind is very nearby um that's uh skiing is gorgeous it's a beautiful country i'd love to visit it i'd love

00:37:52.980 to visit it i'm sure there's a lot of great things about it but objectively speaking america should not

00:37:59.160 have to care about slovakia there should not be any crisis if whatever opinion slovakia's leader

00:38:07.060 has on any international issue because this country has half the population of los angeles county and it

00:38:14.860 probably has the same gdp as like the des moines metropolitan area or something well you know what

00:38:23.700 ronnie said jack can you pull up on screen the specifically not just the geography but but the

00:38:29.000 poland slovakia pipeline that's actually the name of it lake's got the lake's got the uh the uh the

00:38:34.420 direct controls okay yeah just run a google image search just run a google image search for the for

00:38:39.520 the slovakia poland pipeline this was uh this was actually first uh the idea for it actually came

00:38:48.480 right in right right before the maidan square kicked off this is in 2013 uh right ahead of the

00:38:54.620 2014 coup as they were planning the you know the the the resupply of the gas market uh in in ukraine

00:39:03.080 and where they and we're simultaneously setting up the the poland lng operation and the connective

00:39:08.260 terminal through through slovakia and uh and it was it was finally completed in 2022 you know so so it's

00:39:16.580 it's brand new and it is the linchpin of this uh of this grand ukraine energy play using poland and

00:39:23.120 the new cooperative government in poland because you remember before the uh turnover in the poland

00:39:27.500 government uh just recently the law and order party was expressing their dissatisfaction with the

00:39:32.840 direction of of uh nato's line on ukraine so conveniently they topple that government and uh and now they

00:39:39.520 are working to topple the uh the slovakia government so that they have total control over the gas

00:39:45.280 architecture now you know mitt romney actually just came out i think earlier today and made a

00:39:50.800 statement against america first and uh you know isolationism as he calls it you know because the

00:39:55.800 american economy is mostly based on our affairs internationally and you know that he that is

00:40:02.180 it's not incorrect to say that the issue is is is our corporations themselves no longer serve the

00:40:08.420 american people they don't you know they've they've our manufacturing is now we've got that we've got

00:40:14.200 that a million miles right now by the way yeah and so it's so the the point that i'm trying to make

00:40:19.440 here with the with with the pipeline is that it's not about control over the four or five million people

00:40:25.420 who live there you know ukraine itself is the lowest gdp in all of europe you know even before the war

00:40:31.120 started it's not it's it's about the land it's about the geopolitics of it it's because it's just

00:40:37.700 about the physics of how a gas pipeline works you need to control the transit points in order to

00:40:42.700 control the market and i would i would suggest that um that nato was not necessarily constructed for

00:40:49.560 the security of the western world i would argue that it was set up for the you know to to secure

00:40:56.340 and safeguard the commercial interests that ride on the military battering arm of the of the transatlantic

00:41:03.180 defense establishment it just like the you know the cia does not primarily you know to to service

00:41:09.160 national security or look at the national edowment for democracy the cia's number one cutout who's

00:41:13.680 behind what's happening in soovakia right now you know who's on the board of the national edowment

00:41:18.120 for democracy which gets a half a billion dollars every year in um in congressional funding and was

00:41:23.680 set up by cia director bill colby as a as an explicit uh as an explicit cia pass through to try to

00:41:30.740 re uh reestablish the cia conduits that they had in the 1960s on the board of the national

00:41:36.200 democratic democracy are representatives from chevron exxon google microsoft mcdonald's walmart

00:41:45.260 it's the corporate stakeholders who you know because you don't make your money at the cia

00:41:50.520 or the dod uh you know as a you know gs 17 making 175 000 a year you make your money on the board seats

00:42:00.220 of the corporations that you were good little boys for while you were in charge of the state department

00:42:04.100 desk there or the dod operations that were carving up their markets or the cia operations that were

00:42:09.460 regime changing governments that you could have a favorable you know uh labor policy or tax policy

00:42:14.520 or regulatory environment for the corporations there that's that's kind of the level of the food

00:42:20.100 chain above this and so you know what we're doing in slovakia is is is what we're doing on every

00:42:26.300 corner of the globe it's what we're doing in namibia and uganda and turkmenistan you know there's no

00:42:31.780 there's no plot of dirt on god's green earth that doesn't have some exploitable natural resource

00:42:37.300 and that that same blob apparatus to be able to you know run black ops dirty tricks to control

00:42:44.220 is now what we're seeing in our own domestic politics with it being turned against us the citizens

00:42:48.500 so basically what you're saying is if some places got oil or access to oil then they they need some

00:42:55.940 freedom real fast by the way this is the same issue with why people always ask me about why does

00:43:01.040 China care about the Uyghurs so much what's the big deal they live out in the middle of the desert

00:43:04.140 of central asia well where where is Xinjiang located right across from Pakistan and this is

00:43:11.540 exactly where they want to build that Pakistan economic corridor across the actually the Kashmir

00:43:17.300 region which I know Blake has been talking about recently um across from Xinjiang so they can get all

00:43:22.440 the way down to the port of Chabahar and then get eventually get into Iran eventually get into the

00:43:26.860 Persian Gulf that's what it's all about and the Uyghurs who were in the way with their Islamic um

00:43:33.080 Islamic separatist uh movement didn't they didn't want them bombing the pipeline so what did they do

00:43:38.920 they locked up all the Uyghurs before we end this topic I want to go to um I want to go to Tyler

00:43:44.720 Tyler you've been in that region I think probably more than all of us combined you know how oil and

00:43:51.040 mineral rights really play a huge role there what you take yeah it's so interesting when you look at

00:43:56.740 like Turkish relations too and you know I've just been you know catching up on some recent news when

00:44:03.640 it when it comes to the the southern pipelines too I'm sure we could talk about this for hours and

00:44:08.860 hours actually lived as you know on in some of the the bigger port areas where those those companies

00:44:17.040 operated out of and it was very interesting to see I literally lived in the Donbass folks

00:44:22.860 well I lived I lived in Tuwopsay and Noah and Sisk where you know those areas are two of the largest

00:44:29.920 ports where so much of of all the oil moguls and you know quite a few Americans that were doing business

00:44:38.220 with with the with the big companies were were there and it's uh and this is this is a big a big deal

00:44:45.940 and I spent actually some time I think we talked about this before in Romania uh with the senator

00:44:51.180 of the Romanian parliament who was there and kind of just funny story when we were there traveling

00:44:56.860 around he was the uh the minister of oil and gas and we would go around to all these different

00:45:03.460 refineries and talk to so many different people and this guy had a bulletproof bins and we were going

00:45:08.800 through all the country all these people were had uh Romanian last names but they were actually Russians

00:45:15.280 so just you know receiving and passing around and making sure that you know the entire business

00:45:21.940 was protected through throughout much of central Europe and so you know there's a lot of complication

00:45:27.540 that exists and I'm afraid that we're uh you know to say that our American uh understanding of how

00:45:37.080 this business operates is that we're in over our skis and for the average American to really understand

00:45:43.240 what we're up against is is is not saying a whole lot so yeah I think I think it comes back to what

00:45:48.580 Blake said you know this we we're we're sticking our nose and our fingers in dirty little pies that

00:45:54.580 have no direct interest for the American people and it goes back to Ben why are we there we're there for

00:45:59.940 uh corporate power all right I want to go to this next topic we're taking a little longer on topics

00:46:04.880 today but that's all right we got the time we're all here for thought crimes this one uh Blake and

00:46:09.680 you know we'll have Tyler get into a little bit more and then Ben's you and I can chime in

00:46:13.420 Politico Mag had a really interesting article that came out a couple of days ago talking about and this

00:46:20.540 is directly tied into something that we've all been working here and we talked about on the program a few

00:46:24.620 weeks ago regarding what if the electoral college ends in a tie and what does that mean for our republic

00:46:33.220 going forward like you went through this article what was your takeaway this is so exactly so first

00:46:40.660 I just want to set the stage because we've talked about this a lot when we've covered uh operation

00:46:44.840 corn husker as I recall it which is where we've discussed trying to get Nebraska to change to win

00:46:49.840 or take all and the reason it's been important for us to work on that is if you look at an electoral

00:46:55.540 college map uh in fact here we'll just bring it up just to remind people if they have forgotten or if they

00:47:00.760 haven't seen it let me just go to 270 to win.com highly addictive website highly recommended for

00:47:07.440 everyone who loves to do nerdy election stuff so I've got that on screen here so let's just go and

00:47:12.640 we'll take autism if we take the uh 2020 election results and now let's go let's just assume we get

00:47:19.220 Arizona back and if we get Georgia back and so this is if you if you have this map and then if you

00:47:26.240 flip Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania we win that's great but there's another path where we can

00:47:32.000 get if we go Nevada which polls say Trump is up in Nevada as we've discussed if you if you flip that

00:47:38.020 it's 270 to 268 Biden wins old Joe gets another term but if you make Nebraska winner take all

00:47:45.980 so that Trump is going to win the state of course then you have a 269 269 tie so we've discussed this

00:47:52.500 but to remind everyone if you have a 269 all tie in the electoral college or any electoral college

00:47:58.840 result where no one gets a majority so you could get the most but not be a majority this still happens

00:48:04.420 if that occurs then the election goes to the house of representatives and the way the house decides is

00:48:13.340 they have to vote among the top three electoral vote getters and you vote by state so every state's

00:48:22.120 house delegation gets one equal vote so the one representative from Wyoming who I forget the

00:48:27.560 name of gets the same amount of voting power as all 52 of California's representatives but that is

00:48:33.680 how they do it odds are right now if we were to do this with the current house setup you would have

00:48:38.760 26 republican votes 22 democrat votes so chances are Trump would be able to win and that'll probably

00:48:46.380 still be the case after this fall's election unless we would badly lose the house somehow so which

00:48:51.600 which house votes is it the current house or the house following the election it would be the new house

00:48:57.200 because it's the new congress that officially tallies electoral votes on uh in january 6th

00:49:02.680 or i don't know is it the same date every time or is it uh so whatever it is early january

00:49:07.780 so you've seated the new congress then and they only vote after they've failed to do it so even though

00:49:14.920 we'd know in advance they're only counting at early january when the new congress is seated so it would be the

00:49:19.500 new ones what's interesting about this article which i also have up here it's in politico if anyone wants

00:49:24.800 to go look it up the title a trump biden tie would be a political nightmare but maybe a boon to

00:49:30.320 democracy that's always a word to watch out for anytime they're using democracy you know that uh

00:49:36.140 a liberal is planning something really sinister let me ask ben's about that ben should we be careful

00:49:40.540 about when we hear politico saying something will be good for democracy

00:49:44.520 i need to unfreeze my eyeballs i think my i'm like uh i'm stuck you know where are you going with

00:49:51.660 this buddy like uh you know there's there's something very ominous afoot uh i mean they must

00:49:58.700 be saying i mean this must involve some way that they can screw trump and basically invoke the whole

00:50:03.980 tentacles of the blob to descend on this but let's uh let's see you had my interest now you have my

00:50:09.760 attention exactly so they make the comparison so exactly 200 years ago so you know stuff rhymes

00:50:16.320 exactly 200 years ago is the last time we had the house decide an election this way and it was

00:50:22.340 andrew jackson versus john quincy adams and andrew jackson gets the most popular vote but not every

00:50:28.820 state decides through popular vote and in the end neither of them get a majority because i think

00:50:33.380 there was another candidate i can't remember exactly which one was was it was it the first time henry

00:50:37.540 clay ran he ran like 50 different times for president anyway so it goes to the house andrew

00:50:43.240 jackson yeah so andrew jackson versus quincy adams goes to the house and there's the so-called corrupt

00:50:50.680 bargain yeah it was henry clay henry clay cuts a deal where his electoral votes support john quincy

00:50:56.720 adams so john quincy adams becomes president and andrew jackson who i will say is very much like a trump

00:51:03.360 figure for this time my favorite fact related to that is andrew jackson would write letters to his

00:51:08.680 friends where he would just vent about how terrible the government was and then these letters would get

00:51:14.220 published in the newspapers and they were basically exactly like trump tweets people would even say like

00:51:18.500 oh andrew jackson he can't spell right he can't write good he's bad he's dumb and so it had that element

00:51:24.060 to it that's just a side thing anyway he points out that the backlash the political backlash to this at

00:51:29.620 the time was immense that jackson had gotten the most votes probably had the most overall popular

00:51:34.080 support but he doesn't become president one thing this does is it causes there to be a big switch to

00:51:39.960 popular vote for picking the electors of each state four years later john quincy adams isn't a super

00:51:45.580 popular president and jackson annihilates him is a two-term president and he kind of is one of the first

00:51:50.300 big revisions of american political life so what this article in politico says could happen is it says

00:51:57.340 yeah you know maybe trump will be able to win the presidency by he's like fast forward 200 years

00:52:04.800 and america is arguably at a precipice on two occasions over the past 25 years republicans have

00:52:10.880 lost the popular vote only to win in the electoral college where small popular population states enjoy

00:52:17.060 an advantage now republicans could lose the popular vote again having won it only once in the past 32 plus

00:52:23.880 years and then may try to engineer a trump win in the house but by playing the inside game and using a

00:52:30.540 vote in the house republicans could perpetuate their power but a democratic system that is no longer

00:52:36.260 responsive to we cannot put enough quotation marks around this the will of the majority could break

00:52:45.480 and create unintended consequences this could be a watershed year for american we need to put more quotes

00:52:53.700 around this democracy long stalled political reforms from introducing supreme court term limits to

00:53:02.700 abolishing the electoral college could finally sail through atop a wave atop a wave i want to cite this

00:53:10.440 phrase they will sail through they will sail through atop a wave of populist democratic outrage

00:53:20.580 populist democratic outrage we're going to have people they're going to protest in washington dc and

00:53:28.440 then everyone's going to be like this is this is the will of the people it's trump's it's america's

00:53:33.960 ukraine moment oh my god and they'll just freak out this blake this is exactly what the transition

00:53:42.520 integrity project already plotted what you just said a totally astroturfed you know uh you know they

00:53:48.480 published in june 2020 the a bunch of military intelligence and political folks who are all

00:53:54.760 never trump with john potesa role-playing joe biden and bill crystal and michael steel joint gently uh

00:54:02.080 role role-playing donald trump simulated how to get trump in how to get biden into office if trump won the

00:54:07.920 electoral college yeah and what i mean so there was that and then there's so many different articles that

00:54:15.720 are just very quietly paving the way for like it's like little democrats just kind of nudging you

00:54:21.760 on the arm saying you know we got to be ready one of my favorites the atlantic in uh 2021 had an

00:54:28.960 article kamala harris might need to stop the steal and this was looking ahead to 2024 basically saying

00:54:34.920 you know all that stuff that was definitely illegal for mike pence to do to keep trump in office

00:54:39.280 yeah kamala harris might have to do that you know stop this deal and then in the same thing for the

00:54:45.900 electors yes and they've also said could the democrats in congress like refuse to certify a trump win you

00:54:52.520 know maybe we can get a few republicans who don't want him and they'll just refuse to certify totally

00:54:57.060 legal everyone that that's part of our democracy our democracy right it's a rico case in georgia but when

00:55:03.200 we do it it's it's democracy yes yes exactly like there's just there's no one has like more contempt

00:55:10.600 for democracy than the people who like use the word democracy all of the time there's probably some

00:55:17.680 sort of aphorism that describes this this phenomenon i'm just like it's me thinks the lady doth protest

00:55:22.840 too much you know that was that was the one i was gonna say that was the one i was gonna say

00:55:26.160 says yeah me me thinks the yeah the people like were threatened by democracy i'm sorry i was i was

00:55:33.660 just gonna say i love watching the meltdown when you explain to someone that just say i like just

00:55:38.900 rolling the grenade into the conversation just saying hey the pre did you know that the president

00:55:44.120 isn't elected democratically and they're just walking out and it's just like boom just on twitter

00:55:48.880 every time oh you mean it's like with normies and stuff oh anyone it's just anyone right like it's

00:55:54.280 like did you know this is a democracy when it comes to the president and there's like boom

00:55:58.320 they lose their mind in their presidential it's great everyone should do it more often

00:56:01.980 it's a lot of fun we absolutely should i don't know if that's helping the polling on the electoral

00:56:06.940 college i don't think i'm helping but throughout you know i made a comment about you know democracy

00:56:15.080 at cpac and that that became like the number one trending topic of the entire mainstream media

00:56:21.140 um i had bill maher going after me i had joy reed go after me like every single night

00:56:26.240 same way that she goes after me every single night in her dreams um i don't know if it's the exact same

00:56:31.640 way i don't know 100 100 sometimes it's trump though that's why she's slowly trying to morph into

00:56:36.740 she wakes up in a cold sweat she just yeah it's so big oh she's trying to get i was on her show

00:56:42.300 balance in 2016 she's never she's never recovered fully and um and uh it's true we should pull that off

00:56:48.740 at some point i went off on i was like going off on lbj it was great um and uh and and all because

00:56:56.000 i said something about like oh yeah welcome to cpac where we're here to end democracy because

00:56:59.940 like that is what they had been saying about us the entire time in the run-up to it so i just

00:57:05.180 repeated their own words back to them and they're like he admitted it oh he admitted it you see you see

00:57:11.540 and i'm like really this is all it takes apparently that's all it takes folks

00:57:14.660 but but but tyler in all seriousness um i mean you're looking at polling you're you're you're

00:57:21.980 like you know the turning point action guy how how realistic is this 269 scenario this time

00:57:27.020 i mean it's really realistic i mean last time we there was a there was a kind of funky way that

00:57:31.780 it could have happened uh i think that involved new hampshire now because of how the the numbers

00:57:36.500 have shifted like this is very realistic i mean it's basically blue wall versus like what we've

00:57:41.220 talked about sunbelt with as long as nebraska gets winner take all done so you know maine we we've

00:57:47.600 we've investigated this we've covered this a little bit maine has a real challenge in getting rid of

00:57:51.980 their winner shake take all i mean or adding winner take all getting rid of their uh uh by congressional

00:57:58.420 district uh apportionment of the uh of the electoral college votes nebraska has a very clear path and maine

00:58:06.220 does probably doesn't have the time to do it and so uh and it would be very unpopular in maine where

00:58:12.040 it's very popular amongst republicans in nebraska which is a very deep red state so nebraska gets this

00:58:18.680 thing done i mean you are looking at a very real situation and and this starts starts to spark the

00:58:25.500 conversation about you know 14th amendment stuff and what are the democrats going to try to pull out

00:58:31.160 you know they've been going after i think they've gone after the whole electoral college

00:58:35.920 uh the elector stuff you know i can't talk too much about that uh being somewhat in the middle of

00:58:42.860 all this in arizona but i think they've gone after this specifically to try to destroy the electoral

00:58:49.340 college i think they're trying to use that to enrage normal americans uh on on a talk on something

00:58:57.980 that's obviously been in their life their entire life whether or not most americans realize it or

00:59:02.180 not and and that's that's a real concern uh when you layer that on top of the supreme court conversations

00:59:09.940 on top of the ranked choice voting conversations uh i mean there's just a lot and i think they just

00:59:15.260 want to get national popular vote done because it would be almost impossible to get rid of the

00:59:19.140 electoral college you know constitutionally and that's it i mean so just to bring this up and then

00:59:24.780 that's scary by the way mike another chance but you mentioned that the interstate popular vote

00:59:29.120 compact is this thing they've considered you can look that up and we call and by just the loose

00:59:35.160 slang is national popular vote is what people call it so the idea is they think they can kind of

00:59:40.580 execute this scheme so the constitution says you have to do the electoral college but it doesn't say

00:59:46.340 it doesn't say how you have to award your electoral votes well since we're on the topic to to get rid of

00:59:52.320 the electors it would require a vote of two-thirds of congress both both chambers plus three-quarters

00:59:58.080 of the states to change it exactly so the shortcut they try to take is they're passing this thing

01:00:03.180 called the interstate the national popular vote compact and what it is is it's these states pass

01:00:08.800 identical bills that say we will award our electoral votes to whoever wins a national popular vote

01:00:16.200 only once a total a majority of electoral states have or a majority of electoral votes nationwide have

01:00:23.080 passed this same thing yep so the idea is you get 270 total electoral votes to pass this law and then it

01:00:29.980 triggers now right now this is the law with 209 total electoral votes that is uh 38.8 percent of the

01:00:38.860 title total so they're about 75 percent of the way there which is which is scary it's all blue states that

01:00:44.420 have done it every state that's passed this right now is one that is solidly democratic at this point

01:00:49.640 um the probably the most red one is maine like we'll get the electoral vote there but so you could

01:00:56.040 just do the math where you know they control uh if they got if they got virginia back under control they

01:01:01.680 could pass it there uh i think do they have full control in michigan right now so like michigan could

01:01:06.500 theoretically pass this and so what you'd really just need is you'd need one way of election where democrats

01:01:13.160 control a red state at the state level um and then they can just do this you know maybe they make

01:01:19.300 slightly more gains in arizona or you know they flip north carolina back somehow and so they pass

01:01:25.300 that there they can pretty quickly get to that 270 i think you could debate whether this is

01:01:29.880 constitutional i think it's possible the supreme court would say you can't do this for some reason

01:01:34.460 uh cross that bridge when you get to it but they definitely have a plan to just blow this up

01:01:40.480 um but we've been away from mike for a while so let's uh do you have any thoughts on this mike

01:01:44.660 yeah i think it's instructive that it was such a big part of the transition integrity project

01:01:49.980 blueprint and that they even contemplated deploying black lives matter street muscle and what kind of

01:01:56.140 favors that the biden campaign and other stakeholders would need to do to curry favor with the black lives

01:02:03.520 matter street muscle in order to support a call to take to the streets to abolish the electoral college

01:02:08.140 i mean they they mean and this did not just come from like random people this came from

01:02:12.680 this came from john podesta and bill crystal then michael steel the former head of the republican party

01:02:18.820 donna brazil the former head of the democrat party as well as a slew of military generals and

01:02:23.540 intelligence folks like rosa brooks who herself was under secretary for defense and was also had a

01:02:30.040 cia blue badge and teaches courses at georgetown on how to overthrow governments you know democratization

01:02:36.040 studies i mean that's what that is it's how to how to overthrow a government and install a uh

01:02:40.860 you know pliant vassal state in the name of democracy so these are professional regime change

01:02:45.620 artists uh who have a license to do dirty tricks abroad who were plotting out in the open how to

01:02:52.340 orchestrate an operation in order to uh through dirty tricks and then part of that included threatening

01:02:57.340 secession of the western states you know getting um uh but you know basically bringing the and as they

01:03:03.580 do in a color revolution having these street protests and and organized shutdown of the entire

01:03:08.320 national infrastructure the highways the federal buildings the afl cio would do mass worker strikes

01:03:15.300 to bring the country to a halt until the electoral college reform is passed so do you think that this

01:03:21.100 is what you're saying that that this sorry like i think i was asking the same question though but is

01:03:25.940 are you saying this is what we could see if the scenario kicks off i if if they if they feel that

01:03:33.440 that is what is necessary to win the election i would be shocked if it doesn't if you don't see this

01:03:39.060 exact thing i'm actually i'm actually a little bit surprised that this has not been memed with greater

01:03:45.100 intensity over the past several months if you remember it was a very high intensity thing this

01:03:50.680 abolished the electoral college um around this time last year and and and in the immediate aftermath

01:03:56.460 of the 2016 election when norm eisen was going around and securing something like 15 to 30 different

01:04:02.140 votes to not certify the election uh of 2016 and you know so i'm a little bit surprised i don't know

01:04:08.820 if it's because they the um you know the journal bots are are all focused on the trump trials and

01:04:15.600 things like that that um that they have not taken the time to set the table about what a threat to

01:04:21.380 democracy democracy is in the form of the electoral college um but i i do expect that to uptick

01:04:27.900 especially if they're serious about this so i want to add and just real quick too and this is a real

01:04:32.560 danger too because we have a lot of states that are red states that have uh voter initiative very

01:04:37.720 loose voter initiative laws uh that allow the voters to send something to the ballot that effectively

01:04:43.480 changes permanently the constitution of their state and this is an issue that's been a really huge issue

01:04:50.080 in arizona part of the reason why arizona is where it's at today as being competitive even is

01:04:55.120 because of our very loose voter and voter referendum voter initiative laws and a lot of red states have

01:05:01.000 these and so the way the democrats are looking at this with mpv with national popular vote is okay we

01:05:07.620 got to get all of our slam dunks like you said blue states get them all done right and and then they

01:05:12.800 just have to spend money one state at a time getting mpv you know and they want to be strategic so if it

01:05:18.900 fails it fails permanently effectively in a lot of places where initiatives are done wrong but they still

01:05:25.020 have that very open and they have loose openings still with texas who they you know democrats believe

01:05:30.420 that texas has they have a real opportunity to capture texas long term um as soon as houston becomes

01:05:37.660 unmanageable for republicans and conservatives and you know austin and other places in dallas parts of

01:05:43.500 dallas and so you know they're kind of biding their time this is a long-term strategy that they know

01:05:48.880 they're going to be able to to knock off and there's no there's no going back you know once this is done and

01:05:53.940 once this is in the constitutions of these states this is a massive and really it becomes a a

01:06:00.400 constitutional uh you know this is why the supreme court matters so much and protecting the supreme

01:06:05.160 court and winning this election an underappreciated thing i do like is if we go to this national popular

01:06:11.280 vote this back doorway we would be going to a national popular vote without having an actual centralized

01:06:17.400 like federal definition of for example who can vote well that's that's why they're pushing it i know so it's

01:06:23.040 crazy because this is how to take over the city it is but it's even get even wackier than this

01:06:28.140 what if you say parents can vote for their kids or this would be my favorite troll if you did this

01:06:33.600 they pass this and then you just wait to the last minute again and then you have alabama or some red

01:06:38.300 state come out and they say everyone in our state gets to vote a thousand times and it's a full vote

01:06:44.180 it's not one thousandth of a vote you get a thousand votes and you can distribute them however you want but

01:06:47.780 it's a thousand votes and you just get to vote however you want for all these candidates so you

01:06:52.380 can give 800 votes to trump and 200 to biden if you know you're just sort of split between or you

01:06:56.920 can go all a thousand or you can just say only i only have like a hundred votes i want to give out

01:07:01.300 do all of that but just let everyone vote a gazillion times and you guys say it's popular vote whoever

01:07:07.120 gets the most votes you have to back i think you could have so many shenanigans with this it would

01:07:13.180 be terrible for america but it would be highly entertaining yeah i think they define that in

01:07:20.200 the bills too is that it doesn't matter how you vote they define it they define it in all these

01:07:25.920 bills as by a voter okay so even with like rank choice voting where you actually vote multiple

01:07:34.120 times in a row for you know three different processes they've identified it as so that because

01:07:40.040 that's a big question it's like well what if you implement rank choice voting for presidential and

01:07:45.000 and the argument is you can't you know because of the electoral college and so that's they could

01:07:50.220 they could arguably do it for everything except for federal office because of how the constitution's

01:07:53.920 written but this is this is uh you know where you start getting into the all these wonky things and

01:07:59.660 this is where you know it's really simple you know not it's this is not complicated but the left

01:08:04.700 has done to try to eradicate basic well-known well-understood methods of you know civic engagement

01:08:13.740 which is voting you know learning how to run for office do these things how they've made it in the

01:08:19.760 last five years so complex so confusing intentionally that average people who don't know it already don't

01:08:27.500 know anything about the electoral college now are even more flustered because there's all these different

01:08:31.620 things happening between technology and now processes that they're there and that is the

01:08:37.080 intent right we know that's the intent we know that's what's written we we're we've seen what

01:08:41.700 they've they've tried to do this the playbook and that is the destruction of america and we're not

01:08:45.960 doing a good enough job at framing that conversation as conservatives because we are losing our country

01:08:51.140 right out from underneath us on that issue well i have a way potentially for us to frame things a

01:08:57.480 little better as conservatives because we're all going to be hosting a get-together tyler in fact

01:09:03.900 is going to be hosting it in this june 14th to 16th detroit michigan du trois it is the people's

01:09:12.500 convention everybody's got to go and get this tpaction.com slash peoples plural with an s we've

01:09:18.740 got of course president donald j trump leading things off the big ramaswamy dr ben carson steve bannon

01:09:25.180 donald trump jr charlie kirk tulsi gabbard christy noem candace owens laura trump myself senator rick

01:09:31.660 scott benny johnson bishop arby shines kimberly guilfoyle congressman lee zelden congressman matt

01:09:36.880 gates brandon tatum congressman eli crane and congressman eric burleson i believe roger stone

01:09:42.320 is also going to be there i'm going to be doing my book launch of unhumans at this thing it's going to

01:09:48.080 be incredible tyler what is the importance of the people's convention before we get to our last our

01:09:55.040 very last uh our very last topic tyler has to leave in a sec tyler you have to stay you have

01:10:01.080 to tell us about the people's convention and why it's important i mean we are completely just so

01:10:06.920 you know this is going to be bigger than the rnc convention we're inviting everybody uh so you

01:10:12.840 don't have to be uh you know elected and you know this the pomp and circumstance of all that stuff

01:10:18.440 everybody can come and so we're excited about this thing because we've got everybody coming and you

01:10:25.260 know what our team has put together you you just wait it's going to be incredible uh with the the

01:10:31.240 background we obviously do our events right those that have been to our events have seen it you know

01:10:36.340 the uh you know if you go to post those uh page you can see the backdrop i think your i think your

01:10:43.200 header image right jack is uh is that one of our events so it's going to be a lot of fun we have

01:10:49.160 some tricks of our sleeve and the speech of the century from the president tyler i'm thinking i'm

01:10:54.140 thinking we might need if he's available a certain a certain executive director of the foundation of

01:10:59.440 freedom online maybe special vip what are you thinking special vip mike benz benz what do you say

01:11:07.340 you in man benz i think you're i think you're muted oh yes i'm sorry i was muted i was i couldn't

01:11:11.660 contain the excitement yeah no i uh i've seen i've seen those those tp usa parties look like a lot

01:11:16.400 of fun i've been uh i've been waiting to go to one for a while so put me in coach no let's get you

01:11:21.160 in gp action tp action by the way the lawyers out there this is our c4 this is our c4 this is

01:11:27.620 definitely not our c3 we would never dream of cross mingling or cross pollinating any of that

01:11:32.660 no but i think uh yeah if you're we know the democrats democrats never break rules about you

01:11:37.340 know which organization can do what this is turning point action democrats so speaking of

01:11:42.440 democrats and liberals breaking rules um blake i'm gonna have to ask you to bring up our final

01:11:49.020 topic of the evening okay we're gonna have a quick blitz we're gonna be reacting to like three pretty

01:11:53.300 brisk things here but it's important that we be able to react to all of them so first of all

01:11:57.620 we want to warn you this is not you're gonna think this is a story you heard from a month ago

01:12:04.080 but it's actually not uh and so this is brace yourself just uh just play 163

01:12:12.360 do we have that yeah there we go

01:12:18.300 yeah if you've got kids watching right now um yeah get get them out of here so mercifully there's

01:12:25.760 no sound here but i don't think it leaves too much to the imagination that is german politician

01:12:29.740 martin neumeier he's a member of the free democrat party they're not the same thing as the democrat

01:12:36.500 party of the united states but you know spiritually they have a lot in common with them so what he's

01:12:42.740 doing is he's licking a toilet brush there and licking a toilet he's very into various uh

01:12:48.180 toilet related adventures that is a political candidate in the country of germany which is funny

01:12:54.580 by itself but it's extra funny because a socialist politician in spain not even a month ago was

01:13:00.820 caught uh with his own he he was like making videos of himself eating a uh a certain bodily excretion

01:13:10.020 and so you know was this the same guy that was covered in feces too this one this guy was was

01:13:17.600 making himself beards of like so anyway boys we have memed into reality yes yes we have it's all

01:13:28.300 it was always 4chan always wins 4chan always wins and so it's you know it's i i have they always say

01:13:38.100 we should be open about what we are and i guess we've made the world you know the left i i just want

01:13:43.860 to point this out too i mean and again i hate being you know there's lots of things that we can

01:13:49.060 be uh extraordinarily uh condescending to americans about but europeans and public bathrooms they have

01:14:00.180 i mean these are the worst the worst i mean so this is just for i'm losing it right now for americans

01:14:06.220 like it would be one thing to lick an american toilet that's pretty clean if you go to europe i mean

01:14:11.840 sometimes it's just a literal hole in the ground so this guy how's this guy gonna i don't even know

01:14:17.040 how he's still alive to be honest i do want to say the the the numbers the chat you know the the

01:14:22.980 viewership is going up as we're playing this so you know you guys are complaining but at the same time

01:14:28.860 they're showing it again oh god it's showing it it's so gross it's so disgusting it's so gross

01:14:35.240 you know like lock that from it like makes me want to throw up i actually it's like i can't handle

01:14:42.480 when my so when my dog craps and like i i wake up and like my dog's crapped in my kitchen i like i'm

01:14:48.900 like i literally like start like my my wife can hear me she's like they're i was like stop being

01:14:53.400 i like this humans from cr for freedom we put old yeller down put him down i think he's trying

01:15:00.580 to put himself down but maybe the germans are like i would go to world war three over this

01:15:05.900 i thought i thought we were okay okay all right this next this next bit is going to be is going

01:15:12.080 to be way better robbins the next bit is uh we have to react to this one instead uh let's play 162

01:15:19.680 the paparazzi really are everywhere everything you were taught as a kid is wrong you make me

01:15:26.740 want to dance gay penguins bisexual lions sex changing clownfish this is a queer planet

01:15:33.860 queerness has always existed it's only in humans that we have such a stigma about it

01:15:38.800 the idea of just having two fixed sexes is clearly out of style mother nature is pretty open-minded

01:15:46.900 sex is not just for reproduction it's clear that no matter where you look on our planet

01:15:54.940 nature is full of queer surprises to be honest we should all probably get laid a little more than we

01:16:01.660 do you know the most disgusting part this is an nbc documentary called queer planet and cr for freedom

01:16:09.740 hitting another home run they're turning the frogs gay they're turning every animal gay the craziest

01:16:15.680 thing is the gayest part of that ad or like the grossest part was like that flower like blowing

01:16:20.540 up and there was a lot of subtext to that one um but man they're gonna they're gonna gay up

01:16:28.740 everything man they're gonna the animals are queer i remember the plants are queer you know at like

01:16:35.080 like national geographic would just kind of show i don't know like here's my question you know so

01:16:40.880 you've got to be in the wild for a while like when they did the first planet earth documentary

01:16:45.260 which is bbc i know it wasn't um necessarily graphic but it was bbc didn't they spend like

01:16:49.100 five years getting all that footage like the incredible footage that they have like all over

01:16:53.340 the world my question is how long did it take them to find that footage of the lions and here's my

01:16:59.140 thought crime did they do something to potentially like you know entice the lions yeah did they did they

01:17:06.800 do something to make that scene take place oh i don't know you know it's weird looking at this too

01:17:14.180 because we're so far past gay and lesbian in in like the current lgbt thing it's almost quaint

01:17:21.920 you know my experience watching that ad was like oh yeah i remember i remember gay and lesbian like

01:17:28.380 the the transgender stuff has like the artificial monstrosity castration of children thing is like

01:17:36.400 so dominated you know the front you know kind of like what the identity of of the queer movement

01:17:43.700 is for since gay and lesbian have been accepted for so long now in terms of you know where the

01:17:49.300 battleground is in the in the culture wars like everything has moved into the transgender thing

01:17:53.040 i don't even remember the last time that i met uh you know a red-blooded lesbian so to speak it seems

01:17:59.400 like you know the the transgender market has almost you know eaten into the the traditional just kind of

01:18:06.220 you know gay gay market because now there's there's just uh such a big movie to the trans thing which

01:18:11.380 is the farthest thing from the natural habitat of the savannah i mean this is like uh artificial

01:18:17.220 you know uh mad scientist stuff so i you know i actually i'm not sure that that piece of propaganda

01:18:23.360 is going to serve its intended purpose all right andrew's telling us we should play uh 179 this is a

01:18:30.400 actress actor elliot page formerly ellen from that movie juno uh talking about everything's queer

01:18:38.160 now it's like not even cool anymore so let's play that it's often called like niche you know queer

01:18:44.100 things niche 30 of young people identify as lgbtq plus so i'm like i'm sorry this is not niche

01:18:51.440 you tell really specific stories about like cishet people i'm not calling that odd plot niche uh thank

01:18:59.300 you is she is she like tweaking there or something she she's very jumpy uh i just want to say that you

01:19:08.300 know elliot you know elliot page wow just really a success story in the trans movement probably one of

01:19:16.120 their greatest successes um that we've seen just someone who's clearly very well adjusted is is

01:19:21.940 taking everything absolutely in stride um you know obviously seeing her slash his career skyrocket

01:19:30.620 from this you know want to want to go zur ought to give zur self a pat on the back really should really

01:19:36.680 should yeah we you know and a lot of this is connected to the other identity issues you know the

01:19:42.080 fact is is i mean you see so much of what's happening right now with the you know the kind

01:19:47.420 of privileged pokemon point thing and the need to sort of uh evade the identity of being you know a

01:19:55.440 sort of heteronormative or a sort of white you know anything that gets you farther from the identity

01:20:00.720 of the disadvantaged groups i mean this is it gets you it gets you accepted into college at a higher rate

01:20:06.520 it gets you of a more high paying job it moves you up the ladder it allows you to bring all sorts of

01:20:11.540 windfall lawsuits because now you're a protected class it makes it you harder to fire because they

01:20:16.660 don't want to risk those lawsuits it gives you uh it gives you cachet you are now qualified for

01:20:21.700 all the different government grants and programs that are only accessible to you if you have if you

01:20:26.440 have something some flavor to you that allows you to access um you know privilege uh in in the

01:20:33.640 actual sense of that and so i think that that she's not necessarily entirely wrong with like

01:20:39.320 everything's moving to that direction now because this is it this is in the schools at so young at

01:20:43.740 an age and people as they're developing their identity know who the good guys and the bad guys are

01:20:48.660 so to speak from everything that they are indoctrinated to read and so they're they're

01:20:52.720 rushing to be one of the good guys to like join some sort of queer thing that's actually what i

01:20:56.240 think is behind bisexuality at such a you know high rate according to these things i think a lot

01:21:01.420 of straight people are basically saying well you know what i'm i'm kind of bi i guess just uh so they

01:21:06.500 don't need to necessarily lop off their private parts but they can still get some of those pokemon

01:21:10.920 points i just feel like especially that page the video i just like one it's fun to imagine taking

01:21:19.380 that video even 30 years ago and saying like this is the future and and this but i also just feel like

01:21:26.340 in 30 years or so like we'll look back and this will be one of those videos like they take it out of

01:21:31.460 context and they'll just say yeah so there was like a 10 year period in a long time ago where

01:21:36.660 everyone was gay and they were all super crazy like they'll totally overblow like it's all it's

01:21:40.960 too common as it is but they'll make it even more common and we'll all like have to defend ourselves

01:21:46.980 and we'll just be like no no i i wasn't like that you're over brilliant and they'll be like no look

01:21:51.460 at this video there's every everyone was gay then for 10 years everyone was well the thing

01:21:55.000 the thing as well about about ellen page is that in when he her i don't even remember what i'm

01:22:01.960 supposed to say anymore whatever but when she put out that book page boy um does everybody remember

01:22:06.120 this this was like the memoir this was the explanation and the idea was like um oh this

01:22:12.040 is why i came about with this so she goes in and talks about actually being sexually abused by

01:22:18.000 directors and uh obviously there were a lot of there's a lot of stories involving brian singer

01:22:24.200 uh the x-men director the original x-men director and so there there were definitely issues with this

01:22:30.220 and so but then the next thing is like oh and then i went to therapy and they said i should do this

01:22:35.540 immediately it's like whoa wait a minute like something horrifically traumatic happens to you

01:22:40.220 and that's initially what these therapists start you know start saying is you know what you should do

01:22:46.300 is something that's potentially even more physically and mentally traumatic than the thing that already

01:22:51.560 happened to you as if that's going to help you out and i look i'm sorry you know i was joking about

01:22:56.680 it before but we've seen some of the pictures we've seen some of the image this is obviously someone who

01:23:01.080 is not well this is someone who's not well mentally this is someone who's not clearly not well physically

01:23:06.040 um not well spiritually and of course if someone who went through a lot and somehow the answer of that

01:23:13.520 is like oh you should go and perform uh non you know non uh adjustable permanent surgery to yourself

01:23:21.680 you know and and in peru yeah it's a producer producer andrews in the chat in peru they just uh declared this

01:23:27.720 a mental illness so i'm told that the that the the leader of peru is kind of a leftist to begin with

01:23:32.580 and so so yeah so yeah this is weird i don't know final thoughts everybody because because last one

01:23:39.040 we have to weigh in we have one more our final thing is we have uh what's the number here

01:23:46.000 171 we have to we have to pass final judgment on the weird dark souls looking painting of uh king

01:23:52.820 charles oh 71 bring it up bring it up are they gonna there we go all right so you can see that is

01:24:01.620 the disembodied head of king charles atop his red outfit with a background of slightly lighter red

01:24:08.720 if you also if you mirror reverse it and put them next to each other there's kind of like a demon

01:24:13.240 head on it it's all kind of it's all kind of strange do we have that one of it mirrored

01:24:17.960 i i don't have that off the top i just saw that on twitter somewhere unfortunately that's been

01:24:24.220 floating around ban and posted it too that i mean that thing it's it's it's actually like i i don't

01:24:30.640 know right you know you see stuff like this and you're like oh no they're they're they're not

01:24:36.520 messing with us they're not putting up symbology and people are out there going no no no this is

01:24:41.800 totally normal and then you see something like this and you're just like i give up man they're

01:24:45.700 all just demon worshipers i give up i can't do it i can't do it yeah i feel bad because oh oh you

01:24:52.060 can go my can you go to youtube or just even google image this and but youtube it type in ghostbusters

01:24:59.640 vigo the destroyer yeah exactly and tell me that picture does that look literally exactly like oh

01:25:08.460 really yeah yeah it's is this is this is vigo the destroyer like this is the uh you know the the

01:25:16.060 royal aristocrat caked in goo coming out of the painting you know in this and it kind of is if you

01:25:24.440 think about there are thousands of pictures of like european royals and european royal families

01:25:30.240 going back you know hundreds of years that have been preserved for like over the centuries none of

01:25:35.720 them looked like this it's like it's like you know he's either on the throne or they're like they're

01:25:41.040 out hunting with the with the you know the hound dogs and they're chasing a fox or something it's

01:25:46.280 like a nice classical portrait or whatever no this it's like it's like no i'm sorry like i i you

01:25:52.380 know the british royal family and all the stuff they say you know i don't know what am i supposed

01:25:55.900 to say what am i supposed to say what am i supposed to do someone tell me what i'm supposed to say

01:26:00.580 it's too bad to me because king charles actually is he's relatively traditional in aesthetics he's

01:26:06.540 been he's done a lot of campaigning against bad architecture in the uk he's a big supporter of like

01:26:11.320 classical uh like house architecture classical garden design he'll write forwards to books about

01:26:18.160 this and stuff like he's not this i mean he's the king of england he's not a philistine who just

01:26:23.340 easily falls for like dumb artistic trends so controversial take while that stuff is really

01:26:29.780 disturbing to look at it's really weird when you do that i do think that is actually like a coincidence

01:26:36.380 uh i don't i don't love the painting i don't love the painting okay it is definitely

01:26:44.700 pretty demonic looking blake is like pretty demonic looking it's a better it's better than

01:26:50.160 the obama painting conspiracies but then then you see something like this and it's just like

01:26:55.340 it's performative you know it's it's better than the obama painting with the leaves that painting was

01:27:00.500 worse um this one but that was just weird this is like i'm looking like i kind of want i actually

01:27:08.320 have to delete this from well no i mean the obama one the obama one had demonic elements to it

01:27:13.580 there you know there was the the person in it you know this is oh play play 182 by the way we've

01:27:20.280 got we've got we've got what ben's was just asking for yeah there you go it's uh you know he's like

01:27:27.420 coming out of the painting and the other thing is in ghostbusters the end of the movie there's the

01:27:31.820 pink slime that comes down around him if you remember it's the pink slime takes over the museum

01:27:36.160 so so you know our good king over here is like uh in in the slime of it yes i see by the way

01:27:45.020 vigo vigo vigo the conqueror also also right he's he's eastern european that's eastern europe again

01:27:53.020 that's the border region with ukraine so ben's ben's has shown us how it all it all goes back

01:27:58.420 he wanted us to know he wanted us he wanted us to see what he was doing before we go put up i think

01:28:04.340 it's 183 the obama one i just want people to see it if you look close what's also great about it is

01:28:09.760 it's weird looking but like the painter is not very good like the chairs proportions don't work out like

01:28:15.940 the parts that are behind obama like it doesn't it is not a normal chair it's like he's on top of two

01:28:20.980 half chairs it's really funny even and like his left foot doesn't really seem to be connected to his

01:28:26.640 left leg you see yes yeah yeah that's all that generated thing where it like screws up the the

01:28:32.380 fingers you know it's got that going on with the feet it almost looks like he's wearing high heels

01:28:36.540 because of that i mean yeah this is just yeah junk and there's like there's a part of his sleeve that's

01:28:42.540 like colored differently and the outline of what's colored differently i don't even want to describe for

01:28:47.820 people because we're already in trouble for what we've covered here but uh yeah so i would at least

01:28:52.940 say i'll take king charles's portrait over this so we're still we're losing the portrait battle to

01:28:57.880 the uk even even with the new king charles painting so do you think this is like this is like let's go

01:29:03.620 let's go full conspiracy theorist now so this is like this is like the illuminati signaling the

01:29:08.740 freemasons you know in the in the great overstate war that's going on you know there's there's there's

01:29:15.200 different symbols in this that we can't perceive but it's it's clearly it's clearly something that's

01:29:20.560 going back and forth yeah or it's like a thought piece thing you know like a janet jackson pop a

01:29:25.580 nipple out kind of thing it's like oh look yeah see this thing's a little funky it's a little weird

01:29:30.660 you know maybe it'll pop up maybe we'll get more than seven are they just gonna spike the football

01:29:34.560 is joe biden's official painting just gonna be like him eating a giant cheese pizza and then they'll

01:29:40.520 just be like oh that's that's what our painting is for for joe biden yeah yeah it's him licking an

01:29:45.020 completely insane completely insane all right we're we're we're all going to be destroyed now

01:29:49.940 um uh mike ben's thank you for joining us here on thought crime thursday a lot of people know your

01:29:56.040 coordinates um on x at mike ben cyber also i have a rumble account mike ben cyber also my foundation's

01:30:02.620 foundation for freedom online.com thank you guys very much for having me have a great night it was

01:30:07.240 awesome love the chat blake yourself i guess you don't really have coordinates do you blake

01:30:10.540 no i i you can find me here we find here i'm at jack posobic ladies and gentlemen as always

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 18, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 44 — Is Doxxing Dead？ Poo-Loving Libs？ The Truth About Pearl Harbor？

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