Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 44 — Mud-Faced Millionaires？ Trump Jail = Good？ The Unfunny Left？

00:00:00.040 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:00:19.600 Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday.

00:00:22.820 For those of you that would know, one day we'll tell the story of what really happened today on campus.

00:00:26.940 Quite a day, right, Tyler?

00:00:27.800 It was a great day.

00:00:28.420 It was a great day from God. Praise God.

00:00:30.820 Blake is here.

00:00:31.980 Howdy. How was your day, Blake?

00:00:33.200 Mine was pretty good. I don't even know what happened, actually.

00:00:35.380 Now I'm confused.

00:00:36.500 It's good stuff. We just had a lot of good things happening.

00:00:38.920 You didn't know?

00:00:40.080 I don't know anything. No one tells me things.

00:00:42.720 It was just a great day.

00:00:43.640 Jack knows.

00:00:44.300 Jack is here.

00:00:45.500 Jack, welcome. How are we doing?

00:00:48.760 Doing well, of course.

00:00:50.360 I'm sorry, Blake.

00:00:50.880 I am sworn to secrecy, so I am not able to divulge the contents of what happened today until the opportune time.

00:00:58.560 A real gentleman doesn't kiss and tell.

00:01:00.880 That's right.

00:01:01.560 Blake, what's our first topic?

00:01:02.520 Our first topic today, Charlie, Donald Trump.

00:01:05.900 He's on trial in New York.

00:01:07.400 He's being threatened with jail for contempt because he just keeps truthing up a storm.

00:01:12.180 And a lot of fans say, they've been saying this for a few weeks at this point, that Donald Trump should call the judges bluff and intentionally try to go to jail for contempt.

00:01:23.020 A lot of people are saying, or they were saying he should go to Barron's graduation and make them throw him in jail for that.

00:01:28.960 That's now happened.

00:01:29.920 But some people are saying he should just say whatever he wants, and if they send him to jail, that's a good thing.

00:01:35.860 Is it actually a good thing?

00:01:37.220 I am of the increasing opinion of the Nelson Mandela effect.

00:01:43.000 I really do.

00:01:44.180 And, Tyler, I want you to take this.

00:01:45.880 Do you see that in the ground and the grassroots?

00:01:47.860 I think it makes him more sympathetic.

00:01:49.980 Let me tell you why.

00:01:51.480 Because it would be one thing if the country was not completely falling apart economically,

00:01:55.020 but the stuff that, excuse my language, piss people off the most, like high rent, high gas, high credit card, is not going away.

00:02:02.740 And I think people, they get crushed with their bills every night, and then they see Trump going to jail.

00:02:08.300 It's kind of like a super insult to them.

00:02:10.840 For someone who's not as politically sophisticated, it feels and sounds like, I can't pay my rent, and you guys are wasting your time with this.

00:02:18.380 It seems as if that's the way that a lot of Americans are processing it.

00:02:21.140 Tyler, what do you think?

00:02:22.600 Yeah, I mean, we've seen it.

00:02:23.700 I mean, so far, this election cycle, I mean, the story of 2024, when I think in the history books, is going to be every time they came at Donald Trump,

00:02:31.060 he got more popular with the base, with conservative movement, with independence.

00:02:35.860 And so I think that the Democrats are really looking at this, and they're not unified on the decision to jail Trump.

00:02:46.440 It's the ultra, ultra radical part of the party.

00:02:49.240 And so, just like our, you know, our law corrupt chants, right, that probably would have actually made Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:02:55.500 But here's the provocative question.

00:02:56.860 If he gets acquitted or a hung jury, does that help him as much as a conviction?

00:03:02.040 Totally.

00:03:03.100 The question is, which one actually, or is it both the same?

00:03:05.560 My personal opinion is, I understand why the base thinks it would be awesome for, like, Trump, the ultimate rebel, to go to jail.

00:03:14.680 Well, I would say right now, I lean towards it being a bad idea for a few reasons.

00:03:19.840 First of all, Trump, I think, is kind of ahead right now.

00:03:24.360 Like, he's up.

00:03:25.160 Biden seems to be imploding.

00:03:26.940 Most of the polling is good.

00:03:28.900 We're kind of fluctuating around a good point here.

00:03:30.840 And Trump going to jail above everything else, it is unpredictable.

00:03:37.860 It's, we just can't really know what would happen.

00:03:40.460 It's sort of like an event horizon.

00:03:41.860 You just don't know what is beyond that.

00:03:44.120 And so, it could be good, but it could also be really bad.

00:03:47.060 It could be that a lot of normal people who are following this lightly would just see this and be like, whoa, Trump's in jail?

00:03:53.240 He must have done the thing really bad that the judge did that.

00:03:56.040 And they won't necessarily follow the whole, like, oh, yeah, the gag order he's on was, like, BS, and they did all this stuff to, like, throw him in.

00:04:04.240 They would just think, oh, he did a clownish thing, and now he's in jail, and then they're going to convict him.

00:04:09.740 And that might be the only way he goes to jail, because even if they convict him, they have to do sentencing.

00:04:14.280 He can appeal.

00:04:15.200 Like, he almost certainly will not be in a cell before Election Day unless he intentionally does it.

00:04:20.240 Do you think that the coverage of this doesn't seem to be penetrating polling or mainstream opinion?

00:04:25.020 Maybe I live in a bubble.

00:04:26.880 It's really boring, I think.

00:04:28.480 That's a big part of it.

00:04:29.300 Without video.

00:04:29.640 Do you think if there was video, it would hurt him?

00:04:31.980 It's not on TV.

00:04:32.900 Maybe.

00:04:33.220 Yeah, so, Jack, if it was on video, this would have been one of the most watched things ever to see, like, Trump in trial, Stormy Daniels.

00:04:41.060 Do you think the fact that we're just getting sketches and firsthand reports from journalists, what do you think?

00:04:47.160 Well, so there's two parts of it, right?

00:04:49.200 Obviously, number one, look, why was the Johnny Depp trial so big?

00:04:52.980 Why was the OJ trial so big?

00:04:54.600 Like, why were all of these, again, state-level trials, Kyle Rittenhouse, another state-level trial, they were all televised?

00:05:01.840 And then with the power of social media, which obviously didn't exist during OJ's time, but with the power of social media and all those other cases, the clips go viral.

00:05:09.760 When you see these high-profile cases at the state-level put on television and then we get the video out.

00:05:15.980 Now, under New York, for whatever reason, this is a state-level case, and yet it's not televised.

00:05:21.820 And that's the first reason that this is just getting no traction whatsoever with the media, because otherwise you'd be getting these clips of Stormy Daniels, and the left would be pushing that.

00:05:32.780 But then Trump's defense team would be cross-examining her, and she'd be tripped up, and then that side would be pushing that.

00:05:39.560 And, or Trump would make some kind of face and, you know, BS, you know, kind of comment, and then we'd all be, you know, talking about it right now on ThoughtCrime.

00:05:47.660 But of course not, because we're not getting clips.

00:05:49.580 So that's how the world works right now, is everybody gets their clips out.

00:05:51.800 It's like congressional hearings.

00:05:52.580 However, there's the second part of it, too, is that no one can actually under, like, explain what the crime is.

00:05:59.420 And when I say no one, I don't mean the people here who, like, we're, like, political wonks for a living, and, you know, we're all involved in the process in one way or another.

00:06:08.360 It's because the average person who's watching this, I think they're understanding that.

00:06:14.560 And I've talked to people about this who are kind of, like, outside of the, what you were just saying, like, outside of the bubble.

00:06:19.020 And they're like, so he went to jail for having, or they want to put him in jail for having an affair with a stripper or something?

00:06:27.360 Like, why is that a crime?

00:06:29.820 It's, you know, did he pay her?

00:06:31.520 Like, well, no, but he paid her not to talk about it.

00:06:33.200 So, okay, but also, why is that a crime?

00:06:35.800 Did he try to cover it up?

00:06:36.960 Well, no, not really.

00:06:37.820 And so it's so confusing to the average person what exactly the crime is that it just kind of plays out like a Stormy Daniels thing from, and again,

00:06:47.940 she's been around for, like, eight years.

00:06:50.880 This is not a new story.

00:06:52.560 There's nothing new that's being revealed here.

00:06:54.620 There's no new cast of characters.

00:06:56.000 In fact, the interesting characters, like Michael Avenatti, are in jail and can't even be a part of this.

00:07:02.060 And so it's totally not raiding, and if anything, it's just backfiring because of everything Blake just said.

00:07:07.520 Blake, you had a thought.

00:07:08.280 So I think Jack's correct.

00:07:10.700 It is a case no one who's not paying a ton of attention can really understand.

00:07:14.980 What I'm not sure of is whether that is overall good or bad because if it's something no one can understand,

00:07:23.140 that means they also can't quite understand that it's a total joke.

00:07:27.460 I've often said to you, of the four criminal cases against Trump, this is, in my opinion, by far the most legally BS one.

00:07:34.880 That Mar-a-Lago, like, it's ticky-tack, but it's sort of, like, is a crime if he did it.

00:07:42.620 Georgia is bullcrap, but it's, like, it's more marginal bullcrap.

00:07:47.200 This one is just a true, like, Soviet style.

00:07:49.840 We have invented a crime that no one has ever been charged with before,

00:07:53.380 and no one else will ever be charged with this again.

00:07:56.580 Just invented to take out one guy.

00:07:58.260 It is an appalling case, and as Jack says, the details of it are so confusing, I don't think that will get through.

00:08:06.480 So if he does get convicted, it won't be super bad.

00:08:09.600 People won't think, oh, he's guilty of murder or, you know, like, massive corruption.

00:08:15.760 But they will think, oh, yeah, he committed a crime.

00:08:19.520 I don't, like, we shouldn't elect a criminal president.

00:08:22.000 I just think there's going to be this 10% to 15% normie blob of the public that is just, in an old-fashioned way,

00:08:29.500 going to be pretty offended by the idea of a criminal being the president.

00:08:33.540 And we have to worry about that, and that's why I don't think Trump should, you know, lean into getting thrown in jail,

00:08:39.180 because I don't think he's quite that level of folk hero with a majority of the population.

00:08:44.840 Definitely with his supporters, but they support him anyway.

00:08:49.220 So I don't think you should race into that.

00:08:51.180 And one thing about it is, I think if he goes to jail for contempt, he increases the odds that he gets convicted.

00:08:57.740 Like, I think that will make the jury turn more against him.

00:09:00.300 And so you shouldn't embrace that.

00:09:02.040 I think we should have the goal of don't get convicted here.

00:09:05.060 So I have a question, though.

00:09:07.080 Just real quick.

00:09:08.620 The normie left, though, does the normie left abandon voting and Biden because of a conviction?

00:09:19.480 You see what I'm saying?

00:09:20.200 So the normie right, okay, says, eh, I don't know, there's a more middle-of-the-road left element here that sees the radicalness of, like, the...

00:09:30.920 I don't know. You mean the principle of it?

00:09:32.020 I would say it's more of, like, the...

00:09:34.880 They go RFK. 0.58

00:09:36.240 Can I...

00:09:37.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:09:37.920 But, like, more of the protest...

00:09:38.880 That's the same thing, though.

00:09:39.740 That's good.

00:09:40.260 Civil rights Democrats.

00:09:41.980 Civil rights Democrats.

00:09:43.200 Yes.

00:09:43.400 That are, like, pro-abortion, pro-constitution... 0.82

00:09:46.280 100%.

00:09:46.740 But might be, like, sympathetic with some Republican, like, tax stuff.

00:09:51.780 Let me just give you...

00:09:53.360 Let me tell you, I was on the plane last night, and I'm watching a person who is wearing a mask scroll through CNN, okay?

00:10:01.180 And I'm watching this, and I'm watching a scroll, and it was just really interesting watching them, what they stopped on, right?

00:10:07.740 And obviously, like, half the stories are right about Trump.

00:10:10.600 Every story about Trump is, like, fast scroll through.

00:10:13.780 Fast scroll through.

00:10:15.100 Stopped on something stupid.

00:10:17.460 Fast scroll through Trump.

00:10:18.980 Something stupid.

00:10:20.000 This person had a mask on, on a plane, right?

00:10:22.840 And so, I just don't...

00:10:24.340 You spent the entire flight watching this person.

00:10:26.280 Oh, yeah.

00:10:26.640 That's what I do.

00:10:27.340 I sit behind people on a plane.

00:10:28.680 You can learn a lot.

00:10:30.340 I sit behind people on a plane.

00:10:31.720 They hold it up.

00:10:32.500 I'll admit it.

00:10:33.200 I've done it a million times.

00:10:34.880 So, but, like, I'm watching this person, and this is clearly a leftist, because they're wearing a mask.

00:10:40.660 The only people that wear masks on planes right now are self-avowed leftists.

00:10:44.500 But they're not reading and, like, guzzling the information on Trump's stuff, right?

00:10:50.040 So, what that tells me is, like, the normie left is, like, really going to get really worn out about this for the next six months.

00:10:57.160 I don't know.

00:10:57.520 Anyway, sorry.

00:10:57.900 I didn't want to interrupt, but it's just really interesting.

00:11:00.020 I've witnessed that last night.

00:11:00.940 I have a question for Blake, actually, because I get the sense you've been following the trial.

00:11:06.780 I've been following the trial as well.

00:11:08.420 And you mentioned something a couple of times that I hadn't even really considered.

00:11:12.920 I got a phone call from someone today who is, like, not a, you know, regular Trump supporter, but, you know, someone I'm friends with and, you know, from the D.C. area.

00:11:22.300 And was like, you know, there's a real chance that Trump actually gets acquitted or there is a hung jury here because the case is just so incredibly bad.

00:11:33.320 And I wanted to ask, have you been following it?

00:11:35.780 And were you coming to that conclusion as well based on how bad the case is?

00:11:39.440 The New York case is weird because what's so bad about it is kind of at a higher level where I don't know the whole process for appeals.

00:11:48.760 But it's something that should just not be on trial.

00:11:51.480 It is the sort of thing that there should be a federal judge or some level of judge who comes in and says, this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and we are not allowing this travesty to happen.

00:12:02.420 Where you are, again, for anyone who hasn't followed this in New York, what they are doing is they are saying that Donald Trump made hush money payments to someone and he falsified business records to do this.

00:12:15.180 Because that is a crime, a felony, because he's doing it to cover up another crime.

00:12:19.920 It's only a felony.

00:12:20.820 They can't tell you what that other crime is.

00:12:22.300 Well, so it's only a felony if you're covering up another felony.

00:12:26.000 So the felony they're alleging is that he broke federal election law, which means one, New York is prosecuting him for supposedly breaking laws in a totally separate jurisdiction.

00:12:35.860 That's not New York state.

00:12:37.400 Two, that is a crime he's never been prosecuted for.

00:12:40.620 He's never been charged with it.

00:12:42.180 He's certainly never been convicted of it.

00:12:43.980 And not only that, it's even worse than just they haven't done it.

00:12:47.620 They investigated this.

00:12:49.820 They considered it and they declined to press charges.

00:12:53.560 So this is an offense he has explicitly been cleared of.

00:12:57.080 And then New York is just saying, actually, we think you did it.

00:13:00.420 And so we're going to prosecute you for this.

00:13:02.980 And even then it would be a bullcrap case because it would be saying any money you spend that can help your reputation is actually a campaign expenditure,

00:13:12.140 which would be a massive expansion of what we count as a campaign expenditure.

00:13:16.620 Every level of this is completely insane.

00:13:20.060 Whether the jury recognizes that, I don't think we're going to get an acquittal.

00:13:24.460 This is a New York jury.

00:13:25.800 It's going to have some like rabid jury. 0.98

00:13:28.080 You can get one person.

00:13:29.060 One person could be a hung jury.

00:13:30.820 What I wonder is, would that be enough to make the left decide we need to get rid of unanimous juries?

00:13:35.840 We need 10 to something like that, which they have until now really hated.

00:13:40.520 They've always hated it because you can.

00:13:43.580 And it makes it more likely that people will go to jail, basically.

00:13:47.080 And, of course, the left loves having criminals be out of jail as long as they just murder people or rob people and aren't just politicians they dislike.

00:13:55.900 The left is evil, man.

00:13:57.220 They're really bad.

00:13:58.040 Jonathan Turley, you know, all credit because he's termed this the Rube Goldberg machine of indictments.

00:14:06.820 And that's really what it is.

00:14:07.960 So if people don't know what the Rube Goldberg machine is, that's like when you're.

00:14:10.860 I've met her before, actually.

00:14:11.920 She wasn't that terrible.

00:14:12.700 But, yeah, I mean, there is not that.

00:14:15.620 No, Rube Goldberg.

00:14:17.480 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:14:17.900 It's one of those machines.

00:14:19.120 That's I'm sorry.

00:14:19.660 I thought you meant the reporter for The Washington Post.

00:14:21.080 No, it's where you have like the 10 different things to just like pour a glass of milk.

00:14:24.220 Isn't there a Ruth that writes for The Washington Post? 1.00

00:14:26.840 Ruth Marcus.

00:14:27.560 Ruth Marcus.

00:14:28.320 I'm sorry.

00:14:28.720 That's exactly like Rube Goldberg.

00:14:30.920 I'm sorry.

00:14:31.760 Exactly the same, Charlie.

00:14:33.320 Yeah.

00:14:33.760 No, that's like that's like you ever watch those movies and it's like the inventor.

00:14:37.920 And he's like he's got this early.

00:14:39.860 Like Honey, I Shrunk the Kids is like this with Rick Moranis in the beginning.

00:14:45.240 And it's you know, he's like, you know, it's a machine that like brushes your teeth when

00:14:48.980 you wake up.

00:14:49.680 But it makes the toast and cracks the eggs.

00:14:51.780 And it's just all these crazy little devices for, you know, producing these mundane tasks.

00:14:57.560 And it's basically this contraption that's completely put together by like duct tape and

00:15:03.760 spit and bubble gum and doesn't seem like it should be serious or ever taken seriously

00:15:08.520 by any actual person.

00:15:09.840 And yet that's the kind of indictment that Alvin Bragg has brought.

00:15:13.580 So my thought is we should not lean into enabling this machine by saying like, oh, we're going

00:15:22.660 to intentionally go to jail.

00:15:24.100 I understand where it comes from, but I think it would be a mistake.

00:15:29.960 All right.

00:15:30.860 Next topic.

00:15:31.740 What do we got our next topic?

00:15:33.300 This is this is an interesting one.

00:15:34.840 We talked about the other day.

00:15:36.060 Like, is there a vibe shift hitting America and a mark of this, there's a specific story

00:15:41.960 we're talking about is there's the story out of California.

00:15:46.880 And so in 2020, actually, the full story here is pretty great.

00:15:52.340 In 2017, these three boys had like a sleepover and I guess there's zoomers. 1.00

00:15:57.040 So what do you do if you're a zoomer having a sleepover? 0.98

00:15:58.780 You like get a mud facial mask to like beat acne, you know, like a woman or something. 1.00

00:16:06.360 Anyway, they did this and they took a photo of it.

00:16:08.560 And then three years later, a habitual criminal drug addict expired beneath the knee of a Minneapolis

00:16:15.620 police officer.

00:16:16.520 So naturally, that meant that they needed to go and dig up this photo that these boys took

00:16:21.360 three years before.

00:16:22.840 And then they expelled them from their Catholic school, from a Catholic high school, from a

00:16:28.520 Catholic high school.

00:16:29.140 They got expelled for this.

00:16:30.580 Weren't they getting facial treatments?

00:16:31.960 Yes, a facial treatment for for acne.

00:16:33.560 But that's that's blackface now. 0.99

00:16:35.100 They said it was blackface.

00:16:36.460 And so they they're retreating from this, aren't they?

00:16:38.840 The school is under huge fire, right?

00:16:40.480 What the news story now is they sued and they just managed to win a one million dollar award.

00:16:47.280 They actually won the case, not even a settlement.

00:16:48.820 So they got five hundred thousand dollars in damages for two of the boys.

00:16:51.980 And then seventy thousand dollars worth of tuition returned as well.

00:16:56.860 And obviously, that's great.

00:16:58.840 But the question is, does it represent more than a one off?

00:17:02.300 Does it represent a vibe shift for America?

00:17:05.640 Well, I will say this.

00:17:06.500 I mean, I think there's an over prosecution of, quote unquote, like racist cultural crimes.

00:17:11.080 And I think that there is a vibe shift.

00:17:13.000 I also think that when you flood the zone, calling everything racist, nothing becomes racist,

00:17:17.660 obviously.

00:17:18.800 And I would.

00:17:19.840 Yeah, I just I think that if you tell the story to a normal person, they get outraged about it and they get outraged that these kids got kicked out of school.

00:17:27.600 And I think that the same sort of thing.

00:17:29.100 I mean, for example, this kid at Ole Miss, he got kicked out of his fraternity.

00:17:32.540 He hasn't been kicked out of school yet.

00:17:33.640 But I got so many emails from Ole Miss alumni, insanely mad that this is even an issue.

00:17:40.500 That's a big deal, though.

00:17:41.380 But in 2020, that's not how people reacted.

00:17:44.480 People lost their minds in 2020.

00:17:46.680 Meaning in 2020, alumni would have been like, oh, well, you know, if you're racist, you have to play, you know, you have to pay a price for it.

00:17:53.200 Here's here's a thought provoking question.

00:17:54.740 What if it had been blackface? 0.91

00:17:58.560 Again, I'm not a big believer in destroying people's lives over blackface, even if it is legit blackface. 1.00

00:18:03.080 Now, if again, context matters, but I cannot see a context where other than if you are, especially if you're a kid.

00:18:09.480 But if you're an adult and you're wearing blackface and you're doing it to try to be racist to a black person, that's a separate issue.

00:18:15.300 But I don't mean meaning like and has that ever happened?

00:18:17.160 I just want to qualify it, which is what.

00:18:19.680 But for example, like plenty of Megan Silverman, Sarah Silverman wore blackface and Joy Behar wore blackface and they haven't had their careers canceled.

00:18:30.160 And you're saying Megan Kelly, who did get canceled.

00:18:32.660 Yeah, but it's selective cultural enforcement.

00:18:34.900 And I don't think there should be a kid.

00:18:37.760 Let's say those kids were wearing blackface. 0.97

00:18:39.220 I don't think those kids should have been canceled.

00:18:41.740 I don't.

00:18:42.620 You should maybe get like a speech about why that's a bad idea.

00:18:46.640 Like, oh, you should.

00:18:48.000 You know, that might have hurt someone's feelings.

00:18:49.500 Be careful.

00:18:50.300 Like or like maybe suspended or whatever it is.

00:18:53.100 But like, I do not understand there.

00:18:55.380 But it's a death penalty.

00:18:56.500 It is a generational death.

00:18:57.580 And I would just go to the point of saying like a thing that I don't think people can explain is it's truly like this blackface thing.

00:19:04.780 It's a taboo because rationally think about it.

00:19:07.840 What is the harm from this?

00:19:10.140 Well, the harm of wearing blackface? 0.96

00:19:12.260 Yeah.

00:19:12.780 Well, I mean, there really is not a victim except being somewhat maybe insensitive or.

00:19:17.640 And even then, like the insensitivity is so many levels removed.

00:19:20.900 The reason blackface is considered bad is because more than 100 years ago we had blackface minstrel shows.

00:19:27.960 So I'm not even familiar with that.

00:19:29.780 So I know what you mean now.

00:19:30.940 I didn't realize that was the connection.

00:19:32.400 So, yeah, they would do these blackface minstrel shows where you'd have white performers.

00:19:35.680 To make fun of black people. 0.99

00:19:36.860 So it was a whole genre of comedy.

00:19:39.100 And that's where you'd get like, you know, that kind of offensive blackface minstrel speak. 0.71

00:19:44.280 I don't want to imitate it, but they talk almost like Jar Jar Binks or something.

00:19:48.200 I don't like or support that, obviously.

00:19:49.700 Obviously.

00:19:50.160 But it's like that was what they did.

00:19:51.920 And then that turned into how they portrayed black people and like advertisements and everything else.

00:19:57.220 Yeah.

00:19:57.300 There was like the whole chicken restaurant that had that.

00:20:00.000 They're really over the top, like in black dialect. 1.00

00:20:04.340 Like they have a toothpaste.

00:20:07.500 Yeah.

00:20:07.760 Yes.

00:20:08.280 Yeah.

00:20:08.680 And so that's what the origin of it was, is like that was hurtful.

00:20:11.600 And I agree.

00:20:12.300 It would be hurtful if someone blacked up their face and then went on television and started to do this shtick again.

00:20:19.980 That would be pretty offensive.

00:20:22.320 But it's almost like they've invented this massive taboo just spinning off from that.

00:20:28.400 And I think it's exhaustion with that sort of thing that we're seeing grip more and more of society.

00:20:35.200 Like you'll even see some people will do it to try to do transgressive humor.

00:20:39.100 I think you should have the right to do transgressive humor.

00:20:41.260 It might even fail sometimes.

00:20:42.220 But we're talking about kids in school.

00:20:43.860 Yeah.

00:20:44.080 Even more so then.

00:20:44.940 Jack, you have a thought.

00:20:46.660 Well, I was going to say that the thing that it reminds me of is this similar to, I guess, the situation with the frat boy at, I believe it was Ole Miss.

00:20:58.880 And, you know, or at least I don't know if he was, or I guess he was a frat boy.

00:21:02.140 He's been kicked out of his frat for, I guess, you know, he was part of a group that was taunting this black pro-Hamas, you know, pro-Hamas person.

00:21:11.320 And the question is, you know, was he really making racial tones?

00:21:16.320 I don't think so.

00:21:17.520 And, you know, or even if it was, you know, the question is like, are you really going to cancel him over that versus like pulling him off?

00:21:24.480 Like, I think a good way there's this economist, Brian Kaplan, who's a libertarian, but sometimes when they have a cancel frenzy, he likes to ask like, okay, rationally speaking, is this worse than a husband cheating on his wife and like leaving her and his kids to be with his mistress?

00:21:41.040 Something that, one, happens all the time, two, people often remain friends with those who do it, and like three, we allow public figures to do it and basically suffer no criminal or even not much social sanction for it.

00:21:53.500 And so is anything like this, is doing blackface and having a photo of it appear on Twitter worse than that, is making like a King Kong noise at a protest worse than that?

00:22:04.620 And I would say in both cases the answer is no.

00:22:06.700 Yeah, I agree.

00:22:07.120 And at the least, we are, and for that matter, we're more forgiving of people who like commit assaults and robbery or who point guns at women's abdomens and then later become career criminals.

00:22:17.960 Like, we have some sort of bizarre moral hierarchy problem where something that makes people kind of mildly uncomfortable in their stomach is treated as this grave moral atrocity.

00:22:30.400 It's because the ultimate sin is thou shalt not be racist.

00:22:33.840 Yes, and like, I think if we have a collective exhaustion with that, and maybe we see that in the form of this jury ruling, or when you might see it in the sense of even like the roast of Tom Brady, like the roast of Tom Brady had all of these transgressive jokes, and everyone seems to agree that it was amazing and hilarious.

00:22:51.220 That can be a good sign, and we see more comedians just making extremely anti-woke humor part of their brand, and if this continues, we can win, I think.

00:23:04.840 So, I agree.

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00:25:09.760 What do we have next?

00:25:10.900 All right.

00:25:11.320 So the hook story on this was we have this new study out of the U.K. from the Center for Policy Studies, which sounds like the fakest organization in the world, which they studied immigration into the United Kingdom.

00:25:22.560 And they found, surprise, surprise, that all of the immigration that was going to save their economy and their pension system and everything actually had basically no positive effect on their economic growth.

00:25:33.220 But it was driving up housing costs because London is an incredibly crowded city and they can't build anything because you can't build anything in modern countries anymore.

00:25:41.120 So let me ask you, when I go on campus, an activist or a student will commonly say, well, immigrants are a net benefit to society and they are, the refugees, they'll pay into society, they'll pay taxes. 1.00

00:25:55.460 Where do they get that?

00:25:56.200 Is that just a complete fabrication?

00:25:57.760 Is that a lie?

00:25:58.700 Where do they get that?

00:25:59.240 Charles and David Koch.

00:26:00.820 Okay.

00:26:01.180 So what do you mean by that?

00:26:04.540 I'm just saying that that's where it came from.

00:26:06.720 So studies funded by?

00:26:08.100 Our side was the one that like served that up on a silver platter.

00:26:11.840 Like the left, like literally looked around.

00:26:13.900 They're like, wait, you want to, you want to pay for all this?

00:26:17.360 Okay, great.

00:26:18.060 And so we spent 10 years telling everybody that that false notion that.

00:26:22.440 Which Bernie Sanders said famously once.

00:26:25.100 He said open borders is a coat policy.

00:26:27.520 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:28.920 So Blake, can you answer that question?

00:26:30.280 Because, I mean, they say it with such authority and I can do my best in broad generalities, but they say, no, studies show, studies show.

00:26:37.140 And you look it up, there are a amount of quote unquote studies that allegedly show that immigrants are net benefits. 0.92

00:26:43.040 Is that true?

00:26:43.740 So first of all, it's always really vague and they never bother to try to fine tune it to ensure the maximum quality.

00:26:50.940 So you can say, oh, yeah, you know, X number of top companies were founded by immigrants or the children of immigrants.

00:26:56.720 That's often true.

00:26:58.180 Or, you know, they'll work this amount and that'll often just account for the fact that they might come here like they're disproportionately of working age.

00:27:06.000 So they're more likely to work.

00:27:07.120 We don't have as many people come here who are one year old or 75 years old.

00:27:11.520 But when we check the numbers in some countries, especially in Europe, Europe, it's it's actually like worse than here where they just love to admit people who are a total drag on their country.

00:27:23.700 Like they'll run the numbers in Germany and Afghan migrants and such who they let in, you know, a million of them in 2015, a million, half a million, some big number like that.

00:27:32.600 And something like only 62 percent of them have any form of employment years later.

00:27:38.960 You know, it's almost been a decade now.

00:27:40.780 There's like 10, 15 percent below overall German adults.

00:27:45.140 And then these adults from Afghanistan, way less likely to work. 1.00

00:27:48.840 And when they do work, they work for less.

00:27:51.020 And the ones who are not working are more likely to be on X, Y, Z social program.

00:27:55.400 But that's not what this discussion is about, Charlie.

00:27:57.960 We're going to talk about something more important.

00:27:59.840 So this is the UK.

00:28:00.700 The UK is getting absolutely flooded by immigrants from the entire planet. 1.00

00:28:05.520 No one can afford their economy is a total disaster.

00:28:08.260 The conservative party is going to get completely wrecked.

00:28:10.560 So the question is, which all the English speaking countries are clearly in decline.

00:28:15.680 Which English speaking country is in the worst decline?

00:28:19.140 The worst decline.

00:28:20.000 And I'm going to be just so people know, I'm going to be putting up a live poll right now that we're going to be conducting.

00:28:26.900 So you mean birth rate decline or just?

00:28:28.980 No, straight up, like which of these countries from our read do we just feel is declining the worst?

00:28:34.800 Now, just a quick outline them.

00:28:36.440 Britain, we've got, they're absolutely being flooded by migrants from Africa and India and a million other places.

00:28:43.440 A lot of them don't work.

00:28:44.600 They have like these city councilors who are Muslim and chanting Allah Akbar on the lead city council.

00:28:50.280 Very strong sense of like moral decay.

00:28:54.260 Absolutely no one goes to church there.

00:28:56.200 Many people go to mosque.

00:28:57.520 Canada.

00:28:58.120 Canada.

00:28:58.860 We have mass euthanasia.

00:29:00.180 They love their suicide death pods.

00:29:02.180 We have abortion up until birth. 0.99

00:29:03.840 They are now like letting, they basically have open borders in Canada now.

00:29:09.000 So they've let in like a million and a half young men in the past year.

00:29:12.740 So they now have a male female sex ratio that resembles those Asian countries where they abort all of their girls before birth. 0.99

00:29:20.260 America.

00:29:22.200 We have Joe Biden.

00:29:23.720 Mm hmm.

00:29:24.500 Ireland.

00:29:25.160 Ireland is an underrated one.

00:29:26.940 They're a total head case here because they're kind of having this like a Hick Lib post Catholic weirdo guilt thing where they've decided that being a Christian country all those years was a big mistake. 0.96

00:29:38.280 And they're acting out in a really wild way now.

00:29:40.600 Like abortion was banned in Ireland a decade ago.

00:29:43.000 And now they're basically running around being like abort everything.

00:29:46.280 We have to have Mac.

00:29:47.860 Like we have to take God out of our constitution.

00:29:50.060 We have to send Satanists to Eurovision. 0.99

00:29:52.260 They're, they're being really loopy.

00:29:53.420 And then Australia is kind of going to be a Chinese colony, but they're, they're probably ahead of the rest of us. 1.00

00:29:59.120 So you're asking me which one, which one is doing, which one is the steepest decline?

00:30:02.700 You guys keep interrupting each other.

00:30:03.360 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:30:04.440 What's the steepest decline?

00:30:05.480 Which country is doing worse?

00:30:06.620 Canada?

00:30:07.120 Ooh.

00:30:08.080 Canada's the worst.

00:30:09.040 That's, I mean, of all the ones you just laid out.

00:30:11.040 Yeah.

00:30:11.260 Either Canada or Ireland would be my choice.

00:30:12.780 Okay.

00:30:13.220 How about you, Jack?

00:30:15.040 Well, so here's my question.

00:30:16.280 I can only do four choices for the Twitter poll.

00:30:19.820 So, um, what, which four should we choose?

00:30:22.820 I would do America, Ireland, Canada, UK.

00:30:25.740 I don't, I don't think New Zealand or Australia are really going to.

00:30:28.520 Okay.

00:30:29.080 Take out, take out the Anzac.

00:30:31.440 Well, we're going to, no, we're going to let people poll.

00:30:33.740 Uh, we are going to conduct this poll right now.

00:30:35.560 It's very official, very serious poll that I'm going to launch right now on Twitter.

00:30:39.140 And then we're going to come back to at the very end of the episode.

00:30:43.120 Okay.

00:30:43.780 So again, UK, US, Ireland, Canada.

00:30:45.800 I would lean, man, Canada is really bad.

00:30:50.500 Canada, Canada is the one that has their national identity is being more liberal than the U.S.

00:30:57.060 And that's getting really hard because the most liberal parts of the U.S. are really,

00:31:01.000 really liberal.

00:31:01.540 And so I feel like Canada, it's really going off the deep end.

00:31:06.360 On the other hand, it is Canada.

00:31:08.440 They have essentially unlimited national, natural resources.

00:31:11.420 So they can, they have a way to come back.

00:31:13.560 Whereas Britain, all Britain has ever had is human capital.

00:31:16.880 Otherwise, there's not a lot that's nice about the British Isles.

00:31:19.440 It never, there's no sun.

00:31:21.540 The sun has set on the British Empire.

00:31:22.940 The sun has set on the British Empire.

00:31:24.440 And so you're just going to have these like sad limeys hanging around in this once great country. 1.00

00:31:29.300 And Britain's pretty bad, man.

00:31:31.940 I don't really know what to pick.

00:31:33.340 But America, America is the source of a lot of this rot.

00:31:36.460 And so it feels like we're pretty messed up too.

00:31:39.160 But it depends on how you define English speaking.

00:31:41.460 Like most European countries, English speaking, like German is English speaking.

00:31:43.800 What do you mean?

00:31:43.840 Like, you know, the Anglosphere, as we call it.

00:31:46.120 The Anglosphere.

00:31:47.500 Yeah.

00:31:47.800 Did we mention Australia?

00:31:48.760 I think Canada.

00:31:49.280 I think Canada is the worst.

00:31:50.880 Canada is a strong country.

00:31:52.260 Canada just said they're bringing in 10 million people.

00:31:53.900 Yeah.

00:31:54.420 And they're, yeah.

00:31:55.700 What was, yeah.

00:31:56.600 How do you feel about this?

00:31:57.460 Is Australia on the board?

00:31:58.780 Well, they're not in the poll.

00:31:59.940 I just, that was my judgment call.

00:32:01.280 I just feel Australia is not as screwed as the other ones yet.

00:32:04.060 But they might be.

00:32:04.840 They're, they are kind of a Chinese colony.

00:32:07.460 But so are we in some ways.

00:32:09.360 No, China is like taking over Australia. 0.83

00:32:12.160 They are.

00:32:12.860 One of the creepiest ones that you get, you hear about this all the time in Australia.

00:32:16.200 So they have all these Chinese university students just like we do.

00:32:19.260 And it's just absolute naked corruption where they know like don't fail the Chinese students. 0.76

00:32:25.360 Yeah.

00:32:25.440 And so I've heard accounts from Australian academics where someone will come in and they'll have

00:32:29.540 their English paper and they'll feed it through like translate this using Google to Chinese

00:32:33.520 and then back to English and then they submit it.

00:32:35.300 So it all comes out, you know, not, you know, why that is clear.

00:32:38.900 And then it's like auto a, cause they're like, Oh, this is one of the Chinese students.

00:32:41.860 Can't fail them.

00:32:42.680 Well, that, and that's the same thing that's happening in Europe though.

00:32:44.820 So like all the African countries, uh, buy their students way into the universities. 0.98

00:32:51.340 And so they don't fail.

00:32:53.280 They have an incentive to not fail.

00:32:54.920 And then plus like in Eastern Europe, like they take all the, all the professors take bribes.

00:32:59.360 So there's literally no educating going on in Europe that's of, of real value and that

00:33:07.300 you have all these foreign countries and foreign entities paying for like a higher price.

00:33:12.540 And this is what's happening to our education system too.

00:33:14.820 It's, it's terrible.

00:33:15.520 It's that point where you realize all the complaints liberals make where they're like

00:33:19.200 the U S the capitalist economic system is corrupt and exploitative and produces nothing.

00:33:24.360 And you realize it's because they're in academia, which is full of liberals and therefore actually

00:33:29.200 is all of those things, uh, or like Hollywood, like they'll just say sexual harassment is

00:33:34.780 in every industry because the industry they run, Hollywood actually has tons of it.

00:33:38.780 Is, is it the case Jack that let's take Canada, not that it's the worst, but is it the nicety

00:33:44.420 and the pleasant nature of these countries that is then used against them?

00:33:49.620 A bunch of the comments are saying, this is a, this is a trick question because Canada

00:33:53.260 is already ruined.

00:33:54.820 Um, and so, and so we should, we should go to the next one.

00:33:58.260 UK is in the lead right now.

00:33:59.720 UK has taken a commanding lead to begin with, um, Canada in second, United States and third

00:34:05.480 Ireland in last place.

00:34:08.000 Some of the comments are just, I'm looking at the comments on rumble as well.

00:34:11.940 Franklin's in there.

00:34:13.320 Um, Poland's in an hour.

00:34:14.780 Let's see.

00:34:15.020 He said, no, Blake, that's just where the power structure is set up, uh, surrounded by third

00:34:19.100 world countries, India and China.

00:34:20.460 I think he's talking about Australia there.

00:34:22.380 Um, people are saying UK or Canada.

00:34:25.320 Um, Denny A.

00:34:26.560 Wright is saying we should annex Canada like in fallout before they go full commie.

00:34:30.960 Uh, UK is doomed.

00:34:33.220 Um, yeah, a lot of people saying Canada, England and yeah, they're really talking about how in,

00:34:41.020 in the Canada, the cops are defending the Palestinian protesters over Israel.

00:34:44.880 I mean, Canada is just, yeah, Charlie, to your point, um, your original question, it is because

00:34:49.720 of the sort of like Canadian niceness, um, and agreeableness and, and which is real, which

00:34:55.940 has really turned into a, uh, aversion to confrontation.

00:35:00.900 And it's that same aversion to confrontation.

00:35:02.560 We see across so much of Western society, particularly the Western church.

00:35:08.680 Um, I think that has led to just a huge problem in our society because we don't actually have

00:35:13.560 people that are willing to confront any of these things.

00:35:16.340 All right.

00:35:17.000 Uh, we have a few options here, but, uh, how about we discuss Ann Coulter and Vivek's, uh,

00:35:22.400 little, little bit here.

00:35:24.080 So just the, I want to just say before, I don't agree with what Ann said.

00:35:28.100 I don't think you should categorize people the way she did.

00:35:31.160 I have to say that out of the gate.

00:35:32.360 All right.

00:35:32.600 I mean, that's good.

00:35:33.260 Just so people, uh, who haven't followed it, uh, what's the number here on it?

00:35:37.520 But so Vivek had Ann on his podcast, I believe.

00:35:41.180 And she basically said, Vivek, I love all the stuff you're saying.

00:35:45.060 I just can't vote for you for, for one little reason.

00:35:48.840 What was the explanation she gave?

00:35:50.260 I'm not sure, but let's just play the clip.

00:35:51.960 Uh, 125.

00:35:53.760 So, Ann, thanks for coming on.

00:35:55.360 And I'm looking forward to our conversation today.

00:35:58.100 Me too.

00:35:58.680 Thanks for having me.

00:35:59.740 That was a fantastic opening monologue.

00:36:02.600 Uh, I too am a fan of yours.

00:36:05.360 I'm going to make a point of disagreeing with you so that it will be fun.

00:36:09.060 Um, you are so bright and articulate, and I guess I can call you articulate since you're

00:36:13.580 not an American black. 0.86

00:36:15.120 Um, can't, can't say that about them.

00:36:17.020 That's, that's derogatory.

00:36:18.720 Um, and that was a great opening segment.

00:36:21.180 Lots of things to talk about there.

00:36:22.700 Oh, and I agreed with many, many things you said during, in fact, probably more than,

00:36:27.540 than most other candidates, um, when you were running for president.

00:36:31.160 But I still would not have voted for you, um, because you're an Indian. 1.00

00:36:36.120 Um, we'll get back to that.

00:36:38.080 Um, okay.

00:36:40.540 Her, her point was on birthright.

00:36:42.180 So her, so it was not, not birthright citizenship because he was born here, uh, which is why 0.52

00:36:47.500 he could run.

00:36:48.060 It's that she follows up, which I don't think we have this recorded, so I'll just read the

00:36:51.780 quote.

00:36:52.100 She says, there is a core national identity of America, and that is the identity of the

00:36:57.900 wasp, white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.

00:37:00.220 What I am.

00:37:00.640 That doesn't mean we can't take anyone else in, a Sri Lankan or a Japanese or an Indian.

00:37:05.120 That's what she said.

00:37:06.040 But the core around which the nation's values are formed is the wasp.

00:37:10.200 We have never had a president who didn't have at least partial English ancestry, Coulter

00:37:15.660 continued.

00:37:16.140 And she said that if any of Ramaswamy's children married a member of the daughters of the American

00:37:20.860 revolution, then she would vote for those, those, those people for president. 0.77

00:37:25.580 I actually think she was mistaken.

00:37:26.920 Cause I think I actually, can I tell you what I actually think that she was trying to say?

00:37:30.340 I think she was trying to say there is this constant rumor that circulates about Vivek that

00:37:36.320 he is, he is a subject of birthright citizenship.

00:37:40.220 And I think she just literally didn't know.

00:37:43.240 And that's what she was saying.

00:37:44.380 And then she followed it up with that saying that because then she realized that he wasn't,

00:37:50.060 but I've seen it all over Twitter where there's like people that say this in the circles that

00:37:56.120 she runs in, which is just like these like pseudo to MAGA anti-Trump circles saying that

00:38:02.880 he is, he was disqualified because of that.

00:38:05.760 And I think that that's literally what she was meaning.

00:38:07.300 Not saying that's okay.

00:38:08.400 I'm just saying, I think that she was just so misinformed and so stupid that she had to follow

00:38:12.900 up with something even stupider with what, with her statement.

00:38:16.120 I don't know.

00:38:16.860 Do you think that she was actually talking about the, the ethnicity?

00:38:19.760 I'm not sure.

00:38:20.860 Definitely an audios America, which I've read and everyone else watching read audios America.

00:38:25.920 It will love that book possibly make you have a stroke in anger, but if you survive, you

00:38:31.000 will understand what they are doing to this country.

00:38:34.060 But I think she really emphasizes is like that, you know, the nation of immigrants thing

00:38:39.580 is a post hoc invention.

00:38:42.020 That's relatively recent that for most of America's history, it's, you know, British Isles, Germans,

00:38:47.880 settlers and descendants.

00:38:48.560 Dutch.

00:38:48.940 Yeah.

00:38:49.080 You know, it's a, and it's from a pretty narrow part of the country and you can make the argument

00:38:53.560 that that is where a lot of our special political culture comes from, like the English legal

00:38:58.280 tradition, the sort of, if you want to call it like Protestant European conception of rights

00:39:04.540 and government and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:39:07.800 And I think at the least what is defensible is saying that before anyone is elevated to the

00:39:13.940 presidency, we should have strong reason to believe that they have bought into and understand

00:39:18.900 that legacy.

00:39:20.760 Now, are we picking people right now who do that?

00:39:22.760 That can be debated.

00:39:24.080 I saw a good tweet the other day that one of the best, the best displays of multiculturalism

00:39:29.260 is that Antonin Scalia, who by heritage would be like a peasant in Sicily, can instead be on

00:39:35.540 the Supreme Court and write about the great Anglo-Saxon legal tradition and how great it is and how

00:39:39.680 important it is.

00:39:41.080 And that would be a triumph if we have Vivek doing that.

00:39:44.160 If Vivek is going on and saying, like, the British legal system is the greatest thing

00:39:48.640 ever and as an American, I am a proud inheritor of the Magna Carta.

00:39:53.460 Okay, but Ann Coulter supported Mitt Romney, who's not a wasp. 0.99

00:39:55.560 So what's her point?

00:39:56.300 Mitt Romney's, I mean, he would be a wasp.

00:39:58.200 He's a Mormon.

00:39:58.800 He is a Mormon, but wasp, I think she really basically means, like, ethnic.

00:40:02.700 And he would definitely be that.

00:40:04.460 Like, Mitt Romney, I assume, is super duper English.

00:40:08.100 He hung out with all the wasps.

00:40:09.200 He's probably descended from, like, Huguenots or something.

00:40:11.640 He's super waspy.

00:40:12.620 For a Mormon. 0.85

00:40:13.460 Definitely wasp. 1.00

00:40:14.160 He's a Mormon, though.

00:40:15.180 I know, but he's a waspy Mormon. 1.00

00:40:16.120 You're being overly literal about, like, you can be waspy without having to literally be,

00:40:20.000 like, Anglican.

00:40:21.020 Culturally, mega wasps.

00:40:22.420 Some of our worst presidents have been wasps.

00:40:24.200 For sure.

00:40:24.800 I don't understand the issue.

00:40:25.520 I don't understand the contention.

00:40:26.560 I think I think Anne is going for something more fundamental.

00:40:31.200 I think I'm telling you what I think.

00:40:32.740 I think she was trying to make up something afterwards because she was wrong and she literally

00:40:37.020 was following nothing but tweets.

00:40:38.820 I disagree.

00:40:40.020 I just I disagree.

00:40:41.080 I just I think that's what I was.

00:40:42.520 Do you think she meant it as she said it, that, like, we shouldn't support Indians for

00:40:46.720 office?

00:40:48.020 No, I think she was.

00:40:49.040 I think she was being purposely, you know, bellicose to make a point.

00:40:53.180 And she knew it would go viral.

00:40:54.240 And this is something that she's done, you know, over throughout her entire career to

00:40:58.060 make points by, say, something that's that's very belligerent, but also that cuts across

00:41:02.680 to a deeper meaning.

00:41:03.920 And what she's I think the core of her argument, if you listen to the rest of what she's talking

00:41:08.100 about in and really, which is the core of Adios America, which she, of course, refers

00:41:11.980 to in the podcast as well, is that if you change the demographics of America by letting

00:41:19.140 in people from all different parts of the world, which is, you know, what we were talking

00:41:24.620 about in the last segment that don't have the same traditions that don't have the same

00:41:28.640 belief in the Bill of Rights, particularly the First Amendment and the Second Amendment

00:41:32.440 from countries that have just no experience with them or no understanding of them, that

00:41:38.060 eventually you will get a body politic that does not actually support those things anymore.

00:41:43.440 And that is more than anything else, more than anything else, more than like communism

00:41:49.460 and and Gramsci and all of these things on campus that is driving the changes that we see

00:41:56.720 right now is because we're bringing in so many people that have no direct tie to our traditions

00:42:01.460 and have no background whatsoever from our tradition. So I don't think it was necessarily

00:42:06.700 a thing where she was saying like, oh, I don't support you because of your race. I think it was

00:42:10.760 more of a broader point that she's been making for a decade now. But I mean, but when when does

00:42:16.400 what bothered me about what Anne said? Okay, fine. It's like, has Vivek not demonstrated that he

00:42:21.400 believes what we believe? I mean, does she not? Does she think he's not on immigration? Can I ask a

00:42:27.240 question? I don't know. Vivek has said pretty strong stuff in immigration. Maybe I'm mistaken.

00:42:31.460 But can I ask one question about Ann Coulter and her past and her history? Because this probably

00:42:36.200 dates back to her book. Are you going to mention that she dated Dinesh D'Souza? Yeah. So Dinesh D'Souza.

00:42:41.840 So I know this. So I won't say I won't, we won't talk about that, but there's a very tight circle of

00:42:47.700 people that are friendly with that whole crowd. So you've got that all went to college together,

00:42:53.320 right? That are all super close in that era. And again, oh, we could get into this. I mean,

00:42:58.800 I don't want to expose my source on all this, but, but she's not. So Laura Ingram and Dinesh D'Souza

00:43:04.480 both went to Dartmouth and dated. I don't think, and Ann Coulter did not go to Dartmouth.

00:43:08.900 I understand, but they were all super close. So you have Laura and then you have Harmeet Dillon

00:43:14.440 and you have Dinesh and so, and you have this whole group. That's, that's what, but she was also a huge

00:43:22.620 supporter, if I'm not mistaken, of Herman Cain. She was a supporter of Herman Cain? I don't know if she was a supporter.

00:43:30.320 Really? I'm, I am, I'm clawing way back to the Herman Cain era.

00:43:35.940 Yeah. I'll look it up, man. I forgot. And she was on wall all over Herman Cain. And so that I feel,

00:43:43.900 so my question for you is how does that conflict with the wasp statement? Cause he's definitely not waspy.

00:43:52.180 Yeah. I don't know. Jimmy Walker. I mean, I think Ann's always had a bit where she, you know,

00:43:58.000 she does like to emphasize that black Americans are very American and, you know, so you can say

00:44:05.220 like, yeah, but that wasn't her statement about the waspy statement. True, true, true. I think

00:44:09.340 she's trying to dig herself out of a provocative. It could be, it could be. And I like Ann Coulter.

00:44:13.220 I just said, it is funny that what she said, you know, she says partial English ancestry,

00:44:16.820 which even Obama has. In fact, I'm just, I'm sure Herman Cain does too. Let's play the

00:44:21.520 argument. Let's play cut 144. Why am I the only person who can actually offer legal argument for

00:44:35.800 why we should be able to end birthright citizenship without a constitutional amendment? And so the

00:44:40.320 irony to me is I can answer that. I can answer that. Yeah. It's because of the color of your skin. 1.00

00:44:45.640 And I don't mean, I'm saying you do, you are inoculated, you know, for someone who looks like

00:44:50.120 she's straight from, I just, I disagree with that. I'm going to be back at you, Steve. I'm

00:44:53.200 going to hit you hard for that. That is because the rest of you are freaking lazy and the conservative

00:44:58.220 movement has grown lazy cowards, cowards. People in this country have common sense. What we really

00:45:02.740 lack is courage. So I'm not going to buy some BS that like my last name or my skin color insulates

00:45:08.260 me. Think about, I had to step down. That's the perception. You have balls, but other people

00:45:12.640 won't criticize you. We'll just, but we'll just, we'll just level at this. We're having some fun

00:45:16.540 here. I stepped down from my seat by a CEO of a company, multi-billion dollar company that

00:45:21.020 I founded, led a CEO, built it from scratch, wasn't born into money and had a choice to

00:45:25.660 do what every other biotech CEO was doing in the wake of George Floyd. Chose not to do

00:45:29.720 it, did not issue a statement in favor of BLM because saving this country involves some measure

00:45:33.980 of sacrifice.

00:45:36.080 So Jack, what's your thought on that?

00:45:39.660 Yeah. Crowder's a hundred percent right there. There's, there's no question is this is something

00:45:44.340 that we've all faced at one point or another, you know, in, in America, right? So we've talked

00:45:49.340 about that stuff on this program, on our separate programs, birthright citizenship, uh, as well as

00:45:54.360 illegals getting citizenship, various things that we've all, that we've gone even further than that

00:45:58.700 at times tripping citizenship. And the issue is not whether or not we have the courage to say those

00:46:05.520 things. The issue is the fact that because of the color of our skin, which happens to be white or

00:46:12.320 classified as white, that we don't get the same kind of pushback or excuse me, we get pushback

00:46:18.040 that a guy like Vivek or a guy like, uh, you know, any, you know, what do you want to call it?

00:46:24.240 Any non-white conservative would not receive because we are, we all get called racist for

00:46:29.240 saying those things. Whereas they don't get the same kind of pushback because they don't have

00:46:34.100 white skin. And it's as simple as that. This is a basic form. And that's what Crowder is explaining 0.66

00:46:38.180 right there, that this is a basic form of the anti-white regime that we have in this country

00:46:42.660 that will always push back and will always go straight to that. If you are white and espouse 0.83

00:46:48.520 any of those, uh, any of those statements. Yeah. So I just want to make sure I understand.

00:46:53.780 Let's, let's pretend that Anne wasn't saying this is for clicks. And she said it as bluntly

00:46:57.960 that I won't vote for an Indian, right? But is Vivek not American? She, she thinks that

00:47:04.580 a country he wasn't born in is his country just because his parents are from that country. Is

00:47:09.340 that her position? I would take the position. I want to vote for an Ohioan. I'd vote for JD Vance. 1.00

00:47:14.260 I'm just kidding. I'd vote for Jim. For a president? For JD Vance? For president? A hundred percent.

00:47:19.920 One day, JD Vance for president. If he was on the ballot. Yeah, of course.

00:47:22.940 Against every other day. I said for JD as vice president. I'm just teasing Ohioans. Oh my God.

00:47:27.640 I do think what she's partly getting at that maybe she's miss assigning it to him being Indian as

00:47:34.300 opposed to something else. But there is a strong sense that Vivek is, he is a strong upstart. So

00:47:40.440 he doesn't have a super political background. And in the last four or five years, he's, he writes a few

00:47:47.400 books criticizing like wokeness and business runs for president when he's 36, 37, uh, is pretty recently

00:47:55.360 taking all of his views. I remember he like hadn't really decided an immigration view even like a year

00:48:00.600 ago. So he's saying really based stuff now, but it's like, it's so quick that you could easily just

00:48:07.140 say he essentially has, you know, consultants go, tell me what the most based thing to tell

00:48:12.280 Republicans is right now to appeal to them. Like there's a sense that could he be, is he saying

00:48:18.540 stuff we agree with? Yes. Does he seem to get it? Yeah. He's doing it really well, but could he be like

00:48:24.060 see, you know, manipulating us as his path to like slingshot his way into a cabinet seat,

00:48:29.980 into the vice presidency, into the white house? I, I, I think the criticism of the, again,

00:48:34.600 I don't want to, I will chalk it up to Anne's very impressive career on the topic saying something

00:48:40.420 either they got clicks or that she doesn't actually necessarily mean, because I bet, I bet

00:48:43.480 I could drill Anne down on this where it's like, okay, if Vivek did everything he said he was going

00:48:48.480 to do. And he was running up against like Bernie Sanders, who's waspy or he's Jewish, but I mean, 1.00

00:48:54.180 like, let's just pick a, pick a wasp left winger. Okay. Okay. Who would you vote for? Anne Coulter, 1.00

00:49:00.640 like waspy socialist, you know, open borders or Vivek. So I, I just, I, I don't, I don't like that.

00:49:07.560 And on a funny level, it's kind of like modern American politics. When you think about it,

00:49:11.860 a huge portion of the conservative Republican electorate is like non-wasp people who have 1.00

00:49:18.680 assimilated to old wasp values while the wasps themselves have become these sort of secularized,

00:49:25.160 you know, modernist liberals who have abandoned all of that. Like when you, so when you think of

00:49:29.640 who founded the Republican party, when the Republican party was created, it was the most

00:49:33.560 wasp thing to ever exist. Pure Yankee dumb, all of these Episcopalians and Methodists in Northern 1.00

00:49:39.940 States. And the descendants of those people are overwhelmingly pretty liberal. And then the

00:49:44.940 people who love the old Republican platform from 1860, 1880 are, you know, the children of Irish 0.95

00:49:52.580 immigrants, Italian immigrants, German immigrants, these days, like Mexican immigrants, like you're 1.00

00:49:59.220 getting sort of this latter day adoption of the old Yankee values. And that's probably the best display 0.98

00:50:05.060 of American multiculturalism. Let me just say the other question of this, did Vivek push back

00:50:09.860 enough? I actually, what that's my, I would say if I, if somebody would have told me, I can't vote

00:50:15.260 for you, Charlie, cause you're a white person, I would explode on them. What if they said that to

00:50:18.820 you and you were in India? If I was in India, like if you'd immigrated somewhere else, it depends on

00:50:24.120 what the Indian value system is. Like you immigrated, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. If I 1.00

00:50:28.280 would have assimil, if I would have like assimilated to Indian culture, like Vivek has assimilated to

00:50:33.460 America. You would never win an election though. Well, okay. This is very hypothetical, but I wouldn't want to say

00:50:38.540 never. India, India let an Italian become their, their prime minister. Go ahead, guys. Uh, no, sorry. 0.88

00:50:44.980 No, no, you can do it. Keep going. No, it's good. No, keep going. Uh, I, I, but that keep going with

00:50:50.420 that. No, I was saying if I would have gone to India and India had the same values, India doesn't 1.00

00:50:55.300 have American values though. They don't treat like outsiders very well. They have a caste system. 0.91

00:50:59.600 That's what makes it, should make America a little different is that it's about your value

00:51:03.440 system, not about your skin color. It should be. I, maybe that's not an ideal that we hold up

00:51:08.120 anymore. It's a bad example because Indians with the caste system don't really love English 1.00

00:51:15.260 colonizers. So I don't think, I think they have a bad rap. So I think you're not going

00:51:20.140 to get elected in India to anything. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not the same, 0.99

00:51:24.560 right? But I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll repeat this though, which is, I mean, the, the question

00:51:30.360 is, did Vivek push back enough? Well, I was just going to say, I think that she just is very

00:51:36.780 representative. She's very boomerish in how she looks at things, how she responds to things 1.00

00:51:42.660 is very boomerish. She's like the cool boomer in the room that like all the boomers are like, 0.99

00:51:47.920 that's the coolest boomer. And like with that are on our side, more conservative, like tea

00:51:52.880 party ask, whatever. She just is very boomer and how her immediate like knee jerk reaction 1.00

00:51:58.500 responses. And I think like, she just says stuff to like, kind of be cooler sometimes with this

00:52:04.880 stuff. And you know, Vivek is great. Like your point is exactly right. Charlie is like, why would

00:52:09.940 you take a open borders, you know, Coke products? Like, like, uh, Blake was saying like super lib

00:52:18.680 waspy guy over a Vivek who's like heading towards the right direction. Does it make sense?

00:52:25.140 Jack, Jack, where do you fall on this? Do you think Vivek pushed back enough?

00:52:27.540 So I've heard that argument a couple of times. And I remember people saying this as well in the

00:52:35.640 Tucker Carlson Putin argument. Oh, you didn't push back enough. Tucker didn't push back enough. He

00:52:40.240 didn't push back. I come down this on the side of an interviewer, right? If you're an interviewer and

00:52:46.060 you're doing a show, Charlie, you have people on all the time. And the question of like, did you push

00:52:51.460 back more? It's like, well, I look at it this way. Did I bring someone on with the intention? Did I,

00:52:58.600 you know, did I, I book it as a debate? Did I explain it was going to be a debate? Or did I say

00:53:03.360 it was going to be an interview and I'm interested in actually seeing what that person has to say?

00:53:07.480 And so those are two separate things. If I'm interested in what that person has to say,

00:53:11.060 I'm not going to push back because then you're going to get more information out of them. Then you're

00:53:15.100 going to be able to actually have a more, um, a more free flowing conversation and open

00:53:19.500 conversation. But the minute you start pushing back, the minute you start attacking someone,

00:53:22.700 that's when your physical and mental defenses start raising up. You, you know, like your

00:53:26.080 pressure arms, you lean back more, your body language completely changes, your micro expressions

00:53:29.560 change. So you're going to have a completely different situation. So I think it's a, I think

00:53:34.120 it's a false argument when people say, Oh, you didn't push back enough. And it's something

00:53:37.560 that I just don't, um, yeah, I don't really, I don't really hold against interviewers and I don't

00:53:41.500 think I ever will. Do you, do you think you should have pushed back more? It was his show.

00:53:46.180 She came on, I think they've interacted before. Um, it was a little weird. I, I, I'm never

00:53:53.280 going to, uh, like say someone was really awful because they didn't get really mad because

00:53:58.900 it's, it's good to have mastery over your emotions. Uh, it might be a little too slick

00:54:04.800 where he's just like saying like, Oh, you know, Ann says her thing, but we were just saying

00:54:08.780 don't, I guess don't flip out about things that are allegedly racist. And maybe we should

00:54:12.640 include explicitly saying, I will not let you do things because of your race. Yeah. I just, I mean,

00:54:19.100 I don't, I think it's just, it's on, it's needlessly like shallow where it's like, okay.

00:54:24.480 And would you rather have like a left-wing waspy president or someone like Vivek, who's a Hindu 1.00

00:54:29.620 who might do like really based things? Yeah, I guess not. I, I, I suppose that the policy

00:54:34.760 doesn't mean as much to her. Does that worry, uh, you at all? I guess like America has every

00:54:40.020 president we've had has at least nominally been Christian. Does America lose something

00:54:44.920 if we have a president who is just not Christian? I asked, I mean, I talked to Vivek about this

00:54:50.320 recently and I, I want, he, he, he espouses a form of Hinduism that is dualism or non-dualism,

00:54:58.840 meaning he believes, he says he's a monotheist. So there's a, uh, there's a separate part of

00:55:03.740 Hinduism that is monotheism. You'll see this with modern Hinduism. They'll say like all the gods 0.85

00:55:08.760 are manifestations of like a single divine essence. So that bothers me less because polytheism

00:55:15.180 is like directly at odds with ethical monotheism. But no, I mean, I would take Vivek over like David

00:55:21.140 French in a second for president. Would you? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Like David French is

00:55:26.760 like a Christian, right? Or I mean the guy that wrote this like ridiculous book. David French.

00:55:31.600 How about Joe Scarborough who pretends, he pretends he's a Christian every morning on Morning Joe. 0.84

00:55:35.700 I feel like David, the thing is, is that Vivek would be able to read the Bible and he'd be able

00:55:39.900 to find like a good number of books in it that he agrees with. Whereas David French kind of like

00:55:44.120 condensed the Bible down to that turn the other cheek verse. And then he like cut out all the other,

00:55:48.660 it's like the Jefferson Bible, except you cut out everything but one verse.

00:55:51.400 Yeah, you cut out the sword and you, cause like all the, like the most wimpy like interpretations.

00:55:55.740 Yeah. I think we honed in on it. I think it was her dating history with Dinesh that that's what she

00:56:01.860 was really saying between the lines. That's getting too psychological for me. I'll never date or vote

00:56:07.260 for an Indian. Steve, final thoughts, Jack, on that. Uh, I, I have, I, I, uh, I had a rule about 0.63

00:56:17.060 Italian women after my first girlfriend that I've talked to since then. See, for sure. All right. 0.99

00:56:24.160 Next topic. Two options. We can talk about the onion or we can talk about surrogates.

00:56:28.060 Onion. Onion. All right. So absolute earthquake in the media landscape. The onion, a publication

00:56:35.180 you last read 15 years ago when it was funny, has new management. And it's actually the funniest

00:56:41.940 thing the onion has done in at least 10 years. I would say the onion got bought by some Silicon

00:56:47.700 Valley gigalib and he decided to let Ben Collins be in charge of it. Now, Ben Collins, for those

00:56:55.080 of you who don't know, he's the like lame half of the reporting deal with Brandy Zadrosany

00:57:00.520 and Ben Collins. Yes. And all he does, you can go read his Twitter. He's made something

00:57:05.140 like 80,000 tweets by now, I bet. And all Ben Collins does is sit on Twitter or until he

00:57:10.280 left. I think he left cause like Twitter was too offensive and moan and be like, there's so

00:57:14.980 much hate on this website. There's so much hate. They're threatening people's lives. Charlie

00:57:21.880 Kirk is a Nazi. And he's just like freaks out like this. And so they made him the editor

00:57:26.600 in chief of, he gets really sweaty. He cries. He once almost went into tears talking about

00:57:32.340 Elon Musk buying Twitter cause he was so upset about it. And big picture, he is the least

00:57:39.040 funny person. I will pay someone $50. If they can send me a funny thing that Ben Collins has

00:57:47.020 posted that makes me laugh. I dare all of you. I will pay you if you can do it. And so we

00:57:52.620 have modern, like the modern onion is like we have new articles and they're all just like

00:57:58.020 the worst lectures in the world. Let's see if we can like bring some of this up on screen.

00:58:02.460 Um, cause we were checking some of their headlines, like with the, uh, campus. What's that one

00:58:09.160 there? Can you read that one? Yeah. Like Florida's near total abortion ban by the numbers. And

00:58:14.180 I'm sure there's allegedly a joke in that, but it's really just like Florida there, they're

00:58:18.840 taking away a woman's right to cheese. It's so serious. It's not funny. There's no joke 1.00

00:58:23.480 we can make about it. Yes. And I'm just going to go to the website right now. Are they succeeding?

00:58:28.480 Is the onion doing well? Well, I mean they got, they got sold. So whoever owned it, the AV club

00:58:34.660 thought it was an asset worth spinning off. Yeah. Trump drapes jacket overhead. So nobody can tell

00:58:40.160 he's sleeping in court. Meanwhile, the Babylon bees actually funny. Yeah. Babylon bees is amazing.

00:58:51.960 And so their new woke Jesus video is hilarious. Yeah. And the big picture is, I think a lot of us

00:58:57.480 did read the onion 20 years ago and we weren't liberal and it didn't always hit, but there

00:59:03.320 used to be a world where people on the left were often funny and now they're just not.

00:59:09.760 And I guess it's an interesting evolution. And is it that too many things became sacred

00:59:14.660 and the nature of comedy is being able to poke fun at things?

00:59:18.860 That's a good topic, which is, uh, and I think you were in the car when we were talking about

00:59:22.800 this, you said the Tom Brady roast was like one of the few like reemergences of old comedy.

00:59:28.880 Can you talk about that? Oh yeah. I don't think we have any clips of it, but that shows that's

00:59:33.080 a tension with the onion thing though. Yeah. And so, but it was, I guess you would say is

00:59:38.800 it felt almost like, I don't want to say right wing comedy cause that's going too far, but it

00:59:43.220 was a lot of jokes that certainly like smug left wingers would say like, that's not okay.

00:59:49.560 That's punching down. Like they made jokes about, uh, Aaron Hernandez hanging himself in

00:59:54.380 his prison cell, uh, which is definitely pretty dark. That would be like triggering to a million

00:59:59.360 people. There were no trigger warnings for a bunch of this. Um, it's like, I guess good

01:00:07.200 comedy requires the ability to take a risk. And if the risk doesn't work out, it won't be

01:00:11.560 the end of your life. And I think that might be the big flaw of left wing comedy is you cannot

01:00:17.100 take a risk on the left because if your joke falls flat, it's not just an unfunny joke.

01:00:22.320 It might be the end of your life. You will lose your job. You'll, they'll make your wife 1.00

01:00:27.280 divorce you. They'll try to find a way to throw you in prison. They'll, they'll do every

01:00:32.600 manner of bad thing. And unsurprisingly, this is a situation that doesn't lead to very good

01:00:38.260 comedy. I'll bet that they had comedians in the USSR and I suspect that they were not very

01:00:42.780 funny. Tyler, did you watch the roast? Yeah. It was incredible. It was incredible. It was

01:00:47.660 like throwback two thousands comedy central. How are they able to stop doing the roast

01:00:52.020 like years ago on comedy central because comedy central got too woke, but how are they able

01:00:56.540 to get it? Just, they wanted the ratings. Netflix didn't care because they went there. They

01:01:00.740 broke a lot of the rules of modern comedy. So Netflix has, uh, was doing this. I don't

01:01:06.860 know if everybody knows this, but they had a, a convention, a Netflix comedy convention

01:01:11.480 that they were doing. Netflix is a joke. They have a radio station on. So they're trying

01:01:15.320 to make money. Right. And it turns out in order to make money, you have to actually be

01:01:19.860 funny. So this is, this is in perfect juxtaposition to the onion and why it's going to fail is that

01:01:25.660 and nothing could be greater and grander than looking at, like, I mean, we saw with daily,

01:01:30.740 the daily show, right? What happened with the daily show? The daily show got, I think they're

01:01:35.140 bringing back part of it, right? They brought back Jon Stewart. They had to bring back Jon

01:01:38.960 Stewart with three other people just to try to like revive it. They have, this is the

01:01:43.920 new onion. Advisors assure Biden, this will blow over once all Gazans dead. Say that again. 0.71

01:01:51.000 Advisors tell Biden that all of this will blow over once all the Gazans are dead. Okay.

01:01:56.420 Is that the onion? That's the onion. That's the onion. I'm just going through Ben Collins'

01:02:00.300 Twitter. He's now just spamming, you know, his new onion articles from his super duper funny.

01:02:04.960 But the Babylon Bee is hilarious. Let me, let me read this top. Bob Iger insists Disney stock drop

01:02:09.880 not caused by failure of latest movie. Gay black Pinocchio protests for Palestine.

01:02:14.340 It's hilarious. Yeah. Let's go back and forth here. Like, so the onion, sorry, I'm late. These

01:02:19.000 protesters were a nightmare. Says blood spattered, riot gear clad Biden entering press conference.

01:02:25.180 Babylon Bee, Biden strikes deal where Hamas gets to keep American hostages in exchange for 15

01:02:29.560 electoral votes in Michigan. That's good, right? It's like, it's real comedy. So, oh man.

01:02:38.320 I'll have this one. Stormy Daniels offers hush money to courtroom sketch artists to please stop

01:02:41.980 drawing her. It's like, that's actual comedy. All right. Here's Dana White who gets pretty upset

01:02:50.320 about the Tom Brady, uh, uh, uh, roast. Played at 145. Actually, let me get into this real quick. It pisses me off. I flew all the way out here. And you guys give me 60 seconds. My name is Dana. Is that not trans enough for you liberal fuckers?

01:03:07.320 I think at another point, someone said they were like Tom Brady, like you only brought like one black wide receiver here or something real woke of you. Some joke like that. I heard it secondhand, but it was, it was pretty nasty though. I mean, like it got there. So nine 11. Oh yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe was so funny too. Who made the nine 11 joke? Was it, was it Brady himself? Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Two jets slammed into a drew blood.

01:03:36.500 Two jets were slamming into two blood. So in September, 2001 in September. Yeah. It was, it was like, Whoa, Whoa. So this is, this is kind of like the theory. So we should, we should actually go, go around. Like, um, there's a theory that kind of running around the, um, you know, like right wing frog Twitter right now. And the idea is have we reached peak woke? Um, and a lot of people, so this, the theory has been posited and even like the New York

01:04:05.660 Times has written about this, uh, financial times, a bunch of people saying it, but the real question is, have we at this point and is the roast of Tom Brady, um, you know, have we reached peak woke?

01:04:17.780 I would also, I would also say, uh, that, um, uh, that peak woke is, is also exemplified by the fact that, um, you notice that like Hollywood is starting to actually cast like, like really attractive women again in movies.

01:04:35.780 And SNL has, you know, a lot of these different, um, a lot of the actresses are like not, what's the word to say? The traditional standard of beauty, uh, has now returned. And so I guess this is my question. Have, have we reached peak woke?

01:04:51.480 Uh, it depends where, I mean, I, I just, I think that at some point the Lords of easy money, you can't sustain a business enterprise just by force putting forward a revolution.

01:05:02.380 I think, I mean, I think it's going to matter a lot that for example, if the onion is not funny and the Babylon Bee is young people do like what is funny and that's a cultural power. We, you know, we haven't had for a long time.

01:05:16.440 I'd say going back maybe at least like 70 years, the funniest comedians by consensus are usually left leaning as a whole, uh, not 100% of the time, but most of the, you know, they would be left of center culturally. And now we're actually at the point where I feel if you ask people like, who do you consider like the, what's the funniest website, you know, or who are the funniest people, you know, they're just not, they're definitely not going to be normie libs.

01:05:43.560 It's at most, they would be some sort of libertarian leaning person or maybe some like actual total, like weird commie Marxist whack job.

01:05:51.900 Well, because comedy is supposed to go up against the norm and the culture, the dominant.

01:05:55.660 It subverts your expectations as they would say.

01:05:58.120 At the very least up against the dominant.

01:05:59.600 Yeah. Even if they say like, oh, good comedy punches down, which I don't, or punches, it's punches up, punches up, punches up, which I don't actually fully agree with. You can totally punch down and it's hilarious.

01:06:08.660 But if you believe in that, well, punching up is always going to be targeting left-wing things. There is no conservative establishment anymore. And no matter how hard they try to pretend that this is the case, like if you're, if you're protesting at Columbia, you are protesting against a bunch of liberals. You are not protesting the man.

01:06:24.920 So I saw this clip super early and this is a, this is an example of comics going right. This is one of my favorite clips. This is a, I don't know what this comic's name is. If you guys can get me his name, I want to make sure I give him credit.

01:06:34.860 He's at the laugh factory, which Andrew used to go to a lot. And the best part of this is that he starts doing improv kind of with the guy in the front row. Like, Hey, what do you do for a living? And the guy takes his job so seriously. I worked for the Biden administration. Not thinking he's going to get roasted. And then he like keeps, he, the guy in the crowd is like, oh no, no, no. I go, I traveled to Southern States. Not realizing like, how dare you make fun of me type thing. This is, this is an amazing clip. Play cut 146.

01:06:58.720 Nick, what do you do for a living now? You work for the Biden administration. Is your job to wake them up or what's your job?

01:07:08.000 Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, there's a war. Okay. What do you do for the Biden administration? What a show of a job you have. I can't believe you admitted that in front of all these people. You have the freedom to lie. You could have said you were a hooker and I would have been prouder of you. What do you do?

01:07:28.720 You go to the South and try to sell them on Biden. You're f***ing r***ed. What the f*** are you talking about? That's your f***ing job.

01:07:48.800 You go, Hey, listen, I know you guys like Trump, but Biden, I mean, wow. Um, are you ready to be unemployed or what's your vibe?

01:08:00.400 This guy is Arab. His name is Josh Ocean Thomas. When you lose the frontline comics like that, that's a bad sign. 0.94

01:08:08.800 Not even just lose them, but when the clips go viral and they're, they're authentically funny.

01:08:12.460 Yes. I've been around a while. I think you and I can probably recall there have been attempts at conservative comedy, like in the Bush years, in the Obama years, and they didn't stick.

01:08:24.240 They would be kind of cringe, kind of lame. They just, they didn't quite get what made things funny. And especially since Trump, it's just been different.

01:08:33.300 The people who are the funniest Twitter accounts you can follow, they, they like code. I'm not saying they're explicitly right wing in the sense that they're saying like, go vote Republican, but they code as right wing.

01:08:44.200 They are much more offensive to liberals than to conservatives. And that's a big change. And I don't think Ben Collins is going to change it.

01:08:52.660 But even though like someone coming up and telling me Ben Collins was just named the head of the onion is one of the funniest things that I have heard in my entire life.

01:09:06.340 Buddy Ben!

01:09:07.600 Dude, have you heard Jerry Seinfeld just like over and over and over going off about this stuff?

01:09:12.660 Oh yeah.

01:09:13.040 I just dropped the link that we posted.

01:09:15.300 Jerry's actually funny.

01:09:16.380 And he's going after like one guy in one of the interviews was like, Hey, there are not enough white people in your audiences. And he's like, are you serious? And then like, just like going after all sorts of stuff. Cause he's like, yeah, they're killing comedy. The left is killing comedy. He's, I think he said the left is killing comedy.

01:09:32.560 Speaking of killing comedy, we have some troll in our, our comments who's saying, uh, suck my farts over and over again for eat my butt 12. He's actually funnier than the onion.

01:09:42.100 Rumble. Like all week. He was on my show. Yeah. He's probably an onion contributor. He might be Ben Collins. If you, if you do follow Ben Collins's Twitter, one of the secrets you discover is Ben Collins is like never, never not posting on the internet, never offline, never not coming up with reasons to call people racist Nazis. He is truly the most humorless person I have ever seen online.

01:10:10.220 And that's saying something. Cause there's a lot of very pouty liberals on the internet. 1.00

01:10:15.780 Well, I wanted to say this one thing about the comics. It's just so many of them, they've attempted to cancel, including, uh, what's his face that we just dropped in the chat that they canceled off SNL. Um, you guys know that whole history with him, right?

01:10:30.800 Who?

01:10:32.400 Uh, with Shane Gillis.

01:10:34.160 Oh yeah.

01:10:34.560 He's supposed to go on SNL and they cancel them over the racist stuff. And, and then there's that.

01:10:39.420 I think we have them right here in the chat. Want to, want to play his, but it wasn't.

01:10:44.040 What's that?

01:10:44.680 We have Shane Gillis's tape right here. Let's play cut one 47.

01:10:47.880 The night the United States killed the leader of ISIS, Trump comes out of the situation room at like midnight, walks up in front of the entire world at midnight and just goes,

01:10:55.980 Abu,

01:10:56.800 Bakar,

01:10:58.260 Al-Baghdadi is dead.

01:11:00.780 He died like a dog.

01:11:02.380 And it's like,

01:11:02.980 meanest dog you've ever heard in front of the whole world.

01:11:07.520 Abu,

01:11:07.840 we can hear him crying.

01:11:10.780 I said,

01:11:11.260 Abu don't cry.

01:11:13.720 Let me tell you something.

01:11:15.140 Abu cried.

01:11:15.800 He cried quite a bit.

01:11:16.800 I wouldn't have cried.

01:11:20.040 Cry baby Bakdadi.

01:11:21.560 That's what we were all called.

01:11:23.740 Yeah.

01:11:24.240 A real part of this is Donald Trump himself is,

01:11:27.800 he's not a comedian,

01:11:29.080 but he actually kind of is as a cultural presence,

01:11:31.460 like the funniest person in the world.

01:11:33.740 Like the amount of comedy that has been earnestly generated by Trump supporters who love Trump is higher than the comedy we get from anything else.

01:11:42.420 And that is Donald huge cultural importance.

01:11:45.580 Yeah.

01:11:45.600 Norm Macdonald.

01:11:46.400 Norm Macdonald once famously,

01:11:48.440 before he passed,

01:11:49.540 he once went on an interview and was saying that he actually went to a Trump rally once and was was talking about Trump's public speaking skills.

01:11:58.320 And he was like,

01:11:59.020 oh,

01:11:59.120 this is,

01:11:59.580 he's like,

01:11:59.980 look,

01:12:00.200 I've been doing standup my entire life.

01:12:01.980 That's my whole career.

01:12:03.020 That's clearly what Trump is doing.

01:12:04.860 He's got the timing.

01:12:06.320 He's obviously knows how to lead an audience.

01:12:08.980 He obviously knows how to bring people up.

01:12:10.600 And he was talking just purely from,

01:12:13.320 you know,

01:12:13.800 a critique,

01:12:14.320 not a critique,

01:12:14.900 but a,

01:12:15.180 a,

01:12:15.820 um,

01:12:16.140 a review of his performance.

01:12:17.380 He was like,

01:12:17.960 this guy is doing the same thing that we teach everyone in my industry.

01:12:21.700 He's just doing it in politics,

01:12:23.020 which no one's ever really done before.

01:12:25.020 All right,

01:12:25.500 everybody.

01:12:25.900 Great episode today.

01:12:26.860 Make sure you guys check out twc.

01:12:28.620 Health promo code CJ until next week.

01:12:30.680 Keep on committing thought crime.

01:12:32.820 Thanks guys so much.

01:12:35.400 The crime is death.

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01:13:12.920 Thank you.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 11, 2024

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 44 — Mud-Faced Millionaires？ Trump Jail = Good？ The Unfunny Left？

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