Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 5 — Andrew Tate： Prophet or Pimp？ Mid Margot Robbie？ DeSantis Snubs TPA？

00:00:00.000 from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically

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00:00:10.660 our live studio audience here from our turning point usa chapter leadership summit yet please

00:00:23.400 clap as jeb would say thought crime live thought crime live we have the uh jeb bush uh energy going

00:00:31.760 on here jack posobik please clap please clap i don't know why jeb is fauci but jeb is fauci now

00:00:39.360 speaking of jeb bush energy i just had i was looking at my phone because i had to block uh

00:00:44.320 doug bergam messages do this twenty dollar giveaway is that all about have you guys seen this where

00:00:49.280 doug bergam is saying if you give a dollar you get a twenty dollar gift card wasn't this because

00:00:54.780 vivek is doing like um you get ten percent if you're in like a certain club or something right it's like

00:01:00.420 a membership club i don't know how it's legal in campaign finance to bribe people to be able to

00:01:05.620 become small dollar donors none of these people will remember but the best way to do this was just

00:01:09.480 what george w bush did where if you raise a hundred thousand dollars he just calls you a maverick or

00:01:14.400 whatever oh yeah yeah like different titles no no mccain was the maverick but you got the stupid

00:01:19.440 title if you donated to w bush it gave you stupid cowboy things like you were in a western so close

00:01:25.120 i want to introduce james lindsey the great james lindsey everybody he has his uh okay groomer t-shirt

00:01:31.540 okay welcome james thank you charlie so we're gonna have some fun here and we have some topics now

00:01:38.100 this show is a little bit different than the traditional charlie kirk show uh which thank you

00:01:43.180 guys for all subscribing we'll be announcing our people soon uh this show jack and i co-host it

00:01:48.580 every week on rumble all of you should download the rumble app by the way if you haven't already

00:01:52.780 and we talk about topics that jake jack how would we say this are not always discussed

00:01:58.140 well it's it's sort of like you know we each do news shows basically on political shows every day of

00:02:05.760 the week and there's always certain topics that aren't necessarily in the news cycle or topics by the

00:02:12.220 way that may be in the news cycle but you can really only talk about them on rumble because

00:02:19.040 they are inherently thought crimes they are thought like uh so what have we done so far we've done fire

00:02:24.660 alarms we've done fire alarms right well smoke detectors well the yeah the smoke detector the idea

00:02:30.240 that um a certain segment of the population like joy reed say who are idiots have no ability to

00:02:37.800 actually change yes the battery we've also done bonus holes we've done glory holes we've done the

00:02:43.620 bonus holes we've done the glory holes every week gives us a new hole that charlie's not familiar

00:02:48.400 i'm the most i'm like i'm the home i'm the representative of the homeschool audience right i i don't know

00:02:53.540 any right i don't know any of this people thought that this was like charlie doing a bit and i'm

00:02:57.900 sitting there like no charlie really doesn't know what i'm talking about the whole the homeschool to

00:03:02.160 whole school pipeline you want to learn a new homeschool to whole school okay um this is the

00:03:08.760 opposite of leviticus this is the opposite it is definitely the opposite of the levitical purity

00:03:13.820 laws do you want to learn a new word i would love a new word james universal vagina what is what is

00:03:19.300 that what do you think it is it's like a universal remote maybe well everybody has one

00:03:23.680 it's like opinions everybody has one oh okay so that's a that's a woke term is that is that right

00:03:29.600 that's a trans activism term yeah the universal vagina you're starting to get an idea

00:03:34.360 always from and i will say we always try to bring it back to virtue and back to goodness and i'm just

00:03:41.920 over here trying to get you to respect the science charlie yeah and and to trust the science our first

00:03:46.160 topic today though we try to keep it somewhat structure else we'll never get anything done here

00:03:49.460 our first topic is andrew tate i'm curious for what is your opinion on andrew tate positive

00:03:55.800 raise your hand if it's positive okay raise your hand if it's negative okay it's about 50 50 pretty

00:04:01.220 split crowd i'm not an apologist for andrew tate this is how out of touch i am with this stuff because

00:04:06.440 i'm too busy actually studying things that matter what did i say in the group group chat two or three

00:04:11.120 days ago jack who is andrew you said who's andrew i didn't say it that bluntly i said i don't what is

00:04:15.620 the deal yeah you said uh you said i heard about this guy but you didn't know what he was about

00:04:21.700 and you didn't know why he you know he was so popular and and so much being shared to the point

00:04:27.080 where in at least one point of 2022 he was the most googled man in the entire world at least according

00:04:34.680 to andrew tate yes and so you know i i recently caught a little bit of his discussion with patrick

00:04:41.420 david like a couple minutes but then when tucker sat down with him i said okay i'm gonna try to

00:04:45.560 figure out what he's all about so understand andrew tate is accused of sex trafficking and he pretty

00:04:53.120 much framed it in a rather deceiving way would you say that's fair blake with tucker yeah yeah he's very

00:04:59.120 much about like really i'm just al capone i'm indicted for tax stuff really yeah i mean so but then also

00:05:05.180 he's also accused of rape he didn't mention that with tucker however i will say this and i want to

00:05:09.380 discuss this being a first time viewer and consumer of andrew tate and the other thing is he allegedly

00:05:15.280 ran a cam girl business is that allegedly or that's legit no he's his website is like i got rich running

00:05:20.460 a cam girl business that i find reprehensible but the point putting that and you could factor it however

00:05:26.740 you want how important that is not listening to him with tucker for an hour and a half two hours i

00:05:31.380 finally it clicked okay now i see why he's popular he's very smart he knows what he's doing and jack as you

00:05:38.620 said he's kind of playing a part of alpha male perfect posture kickboxer and he is hitting on

00:05:44.440 something that you're not allowed to say where there's a lot of truth to it well charlie it's it's

00:05:49.220 similar to what you talk about all the time this sort of we we've become a society of the men without

00:05:55.420 chests uh we we we raise boys to be meek and timid and listen to the consensus and seek uh the committee

00:06:06.080 assignment rather than to be bold strong and assertive and then along comes a guy like tate who

00:06:12.720 says i'm going to break all the rules and i'm going to make money and i'm going to be

00:06:17.260 lots of women yeah yeah yeah god is god is not happy with the discussion tonight but um but that's

00:06:23.560 all right because we're all prayer warriors up here well at least two of us and uh and we can talk

00:06:28.520 about that later too then then it it it gets into this it's it's essentially filling a niche right

00:06:34.980 it's a niche that society doesn't have and yet at the same time for a lot of young predominantly men

00:06:40.760 uh it's someone for them to look to glom on to saying this is a path forward that doesn't

00:06:48.220 pertain to all the insanity that we see going on whether it be in disney whether it be in schools

00:06:53.800 etc so i want to how many of you knew about andrew tate like a year ago how many raise your hand okay

00:06:58.080 wow that that i mean so you got how many of you are on tiktok regularly raise your hand okay so they

00:07:03.340 must have found him on some other platform no judgment what other platform was he popular well

00:07:07.020 he was really good at he basically he took viral celebrity status and like turned it into a multi-level

00:07:13.820 marketing thing so you would gain status in like the andrew tate cult for lack of a better term by

00:07:21.440 sharing his video clips so it wouldn't even be that he had one account that he would share stuff on

00:07:26.780 it would be that 10 000 accounts were all sharing andrew tate clips so but then okay so but does it

00:07:35.780 does it then reach the threshold he had virality beyond imagination talking about what exactly that

00:07:42.500 men need to be men men need to learn how to say no take responsibility but then james he got canceled

00:07:48.340 from the internet in a way that only alex jones and donald trump have before which was multi-institutional

00:07:54.160 multi-company multi-government de-platforming instantaneously why do you think that was

00:07:59.040 i mean i think you guys tapped on it he's talking about things you're not allowed to talk about when

00:08:04.060 you have that level of notoriety that level of reach um and i say this is not only a non-andrew

00:08:10.000 tate fan personally but uh somebody who is very much like who is andrew tate yeah that's kind of my

00:08:15.360 attitude but um like i somebody talked about him you know it got big last year and i was like

00:08:20.700 is he that guy that said that stuff about covid that nobody was allowed to say is that why he's

00:08:24.420 famous who is he and he's like oh he's a kickboxer i don't know who this is but no he was big on there

00:08:29.160 were some covid time yeah didn't he have like a viral video about it he had a viral video on covid

00:08:34.240 um he also got big in crypto because he actually accurately predicted the bottom of

00:08:39.960 of uh bitcoin bought in when everybody else was getting out made a ton of money on that uh with

00:08:46.100 covid always was extremely outspoken and then when he got um you know he was diagnosed with covid he

00:08:52.760 caught it he then posted a video the next day of doing like a hundred push-ups you know having this

00:08:58.120 huge response to it etc etc no so he's like the perfect character though this is really actually

00:09:02.520 important charlie your question gets right to it so you have somebody who's saying important truths

00:09:06.700 who's obviously controversial who's obviously also in certain ways crossing lines and i don't mean

00:09:12.160 transgressing lines not saying taboo things and that makes your perfect alex jones test case

00:09:19.360 that's why when alex jones got kicked off social media everybody was like yeah finally he's crazy

00:09:25.900 he's saying crazy stuff and we all started to celebrate our demise so this is the way that they

00:09:31.320 build the case to start de-platforming people is they take a controversial edge case where some

00:09:36.480 people are like oh yeah he's got to go he's over the line and other people are like i think what

00:09:41.340 he's saying is really important we've got to argue for it that is like bread and butter leftist

00:09:47.040 dialectical warfare space right there because everybody's going to fight it's going to turn

00:09:51.680 into a huge controversy that there's a controversy and then they're going to use that to point it and

00:09:55.700 say you know well this is justified so many people say it that that's their game so blake can you comment

00:10:00.780 what morally what has andrew tate done that is let's say less than virtuous well it does stand

00:10:08.000 out to me that this is all happening in the same two-week period where like sound of freedom is the

00:10:12.700 number one movie in america and it's all about human trafficking and like what he did do is he he would

00:10:19.900 publish guides he would try to essentially recruit people to pay money to get his essentially like

00:10:25.260 pickup artist type stuff i don't know if that's the right word for it but it's in that universe

00:10:28.760 and he would get people to pay for this and he would literally brag like you know i am so good

00:10:35.540 at this that i can talk to all these chicks and i can sleep with them really quickly and then i can

00:10:41.140 get them to be in my cam girl business because they're all in love with me and 99 of women will

00:10:46.100 do things that no one else's women will ever do for them because i'm super alpha and you know i

00:10:53.280 whether he's fully telling the truth about that or not like objectively that's probably what most

00:10:59.960 human trafficking actually looks like more so than like abducting eight-year-olds in like guatemala and

00:11:06.260 selling them to pedophiles like there's a lot of this sort of stuff where you essentially like you get

00:11:11.880 girlfriends and you get them to do things for you to make money that are not morally that good and he

00:11:18.280 basically very publicly does that and you know whether he actually raped anyone or not which he

00:11:23.560 says he didn't uh it seems indisputably true that he is essentially a digital pimp and you know as

00:11:31.340 as conservatives i don't know that we're in favor of digital pimping as it were are we in favor of

00:11:36.440 digital pimping i don't know you guys should tell me yeah i don't think so but i mean listening to him

00:11:40.800 at length with tucker when he was starting to pinpoint the all out hit the framing of tate's

00:11:47.200 argument can be summarized as you're being conquered even though you don't know it and the way you're

00:11:53.360 being conquered is the slow slitting of the throat of your men that that his argument can be summarized

00:12:00.720 as the west is being invaded from within with and you're it's it's happening through the lowering of

00:12:06.720 testosterone rates the feminizing of your men and i think that's a super insightful and albeit

00:12:13.060 like somewhat like quasi conspiratorial but i don't mean you mean that negatively because i actually

00:12:18.800 believe it i think that's true but it's also true conspiratorial i mean lots of different factors have

00:12:23.840 to come together it's true but it's i think in an era in an era we would regard as a better america and

00:12:30.020 a more masculine america like andrew tate would probably be like run out of town on a rail as it were

00:12:36.660 because of his behavior because of his common because of his behavior okay no that and i don't

00:12:40.680 even i don't debate that i mean again i don't know enough about it my inherent gut instinct is when you

00:12:46.320 get kicked off every social media site and indicted by a government i'm usually like okay you're probably

00:12:51.180 a threat to the regime because like jeffrey epstein was allowed to traffic children in this town by the

00:12:56.040 way for 30 years and he was allowed to be with the royal family and president of the united states

00:13:01.100 and billionaires and so like people that are like on their moral high horse on andrew tate it's like

00:13:06.900 slow down pal like when are you going to indict bill clinton for trafficking kids like he's been on

00:13:11.860 those planes too like oh no it's different like no he's the president he's a kickboxer saying things

00:13:17.180 that about men like you know they it's a selective enforcement of morality jack the word um if you look

00:13:23.920 up jeffrey epstein on wikipedia right now the word pedophile does not appear even once on that article

00:13:31.060 for epstein on epstein's article the word pedophile does not appear but if you pull up anybody who's

00:13:36.480 on the right wing like like james o'keefe is a far right uh etc etc propagandist um the only place the

00:13:43.700 word pedophile actually appears on jeffrey epstein's page is down in one of the footnotes because one of

00:13:48.420 the articles that they sourced used the word in their url that's the only place it appears when we

00:13:54.160 can oh wow and so i guess the tape thing yeah the tape thing is i now understand his virality whether

00:14:00.100 he's going to go to prison or not in romania it's almost like he's begging them to put him in prison

00:14:04.120 like he thinks he's going to get bigger he's some sort of like human trafficking martyr to do interviews

00:14:09.500 while you're under active indictment about your charges it's a good way to kind of provoke the

00:14:14.040 prosecution and let's remember it's in romania not exactly a country known for like fair due

00:14:19.420 process and trials and its ability to represent any thought any final thoughts james on andrew

00:14:24.020 tape before going to the next topic i mean i agree with that colonizer thing i think it's really

00:14:27.200 important talk about that bill do you think that there's a slow invisible slitting of the throat of

00:14:31.540 our men and andrew tate is making the argument that there's like an invisible force killing our men

00:14:37.240 in slow motion it's not invisible it's called feminism the hell are you talking about

00:14:41.360 i mean simone de bevoir lays this out in 1949 in the second sex i don't mean to get nerdy on your

00:14:47.460 cool show but like oh we love we love nerdy the fact is the whole thing of that second sex she asked

00:14:53.000 this famous question there's a famous statement she makes she says one is not born but becomes woman

00:14:58.260 and then the whole argument is well michelle obama to grow into it it's the name of her book

00:15:03.880 her book is becoming michelle yeah well is it not i thought there was i thought that may have been

00:15:10.020 slightly come lately like that's not it's not literally becoming what was she before charlie

00:15:16.840 she's always been michelle 100 yeah so you can get conspiracy theories on your wikipedia show

00:15:24.260 um no i'm not the name of her book that's all i'm saying this is um this is on my wikipedia actually

00:15:29.920 that i'm a i'm a conspiracy theorist and that in fact i called the pride flag the frog the flag of a

00:15:34.920 hostile enemy uh that was a call that's what it is and then the progress flag with those triangles

00:15:39.580 chatting it it's like a colonizer flag being colonized in real time the perpetual revolution

00:15:44.680 flag love that but that's all digression simone de bevoir said you can either become a woman on the

00:15:49.300 terms that patriarchy sets or we can figure out how to become a woman independent to those terms

00:15:53.320 and that required murdering the patriarchy so this slow slitting of the throat of men that

00:15:59.060 andrew tate's talking about is a hundred percent legitimate it's undermining western civilization

00:16:02.680 it comes from feminism at its kind of very like mid 20th century forward heart there's no doubt that

00:16:09.280 that's going on there's no doubt that the queer theory that erupted out of that is like i just

00:16:13.800 mentioned a colonizing force colonizing western nations from within flying their flags on our

00:16:19.500 government buildings flying their flags on famous streets flying their flags on everything

00:16:24.000 this is he's completely right about that and that's something we should be taking very seriously

00:16:28.980 and so if you wanted to take over the west instead of i don't know dropping a nuclear bomb

00:16:34.480 or having like five million chinese you know go to to the border you know an amphibious invasion of

00:16:40.100 china out of california wouldn't it be easier to just have your fighting age males kill themselves both

00:16:45.820 literally and turn them into women and turn them into weak versions of their former yeah so where does

00:16:51.740 that start we were talking earlier and you said kind of the essential function of the man is to be able

00:16:55.980 to say no yeah so you start saying that the essential function of the man is toxic masculinity

00:17:00.400 and all of a sudden they become completely nullified nullified you know from the latin nullum to to make

00:17:07.300 into nothing or uh from the german alfhaven to which is the word that they use for marxists use for

00:17:12.900 transformation of society sublation to a higher spiritual plane this is exactly what you would do is

00:17:18.880 that you would you would undercut men through these memes like toxic you always say the left can't meme

00:17:24.680 oh the left can meme toxic masculinity that's a meme trans women are women that's a meme it's not

00:17:30.400 a little funny card on the internet but those things have been devastating absolutely devastating

00:17:35.580 to men and women and reality throughout the west i mean how many of you feel as if there's an all-out

00:17:43.020 war on men in america and multi-dimensional and the women everyone raises every hand is up i mean

00:17:47.920 this is why tate is popular and because he does it in a super provocative way but also jack

00:17:52.820 the aesthetic of tate is perfect posture well-built kickboxer like exactly you know that he's got

00:17:59.420 that's a big part of it right he's he's uh he's you know he's what he's training shirtless he's you

00:18:05.160 know he's going around um looking look talking the talk and look i don't have anything to hide and i'll

00:18:11.320 just say it you know people say so every time you know tate comes up someone will come under their

00:18:16.260 comments and be like hey jack what's this picture of you and tate together um i said it's a negative thing and

00:18:21.480 so so yeah picture of tucker and tate together so yeah tate came to cpac i guess i don't know four

00:18:27.120 or five years ago and i think we it was like me paul joseph watson a couple of people we got together

00:18:33.760 for lunch on the sidelines then he came and this is back when trump tower was was trump tower and and

00:18:39.760 charlie you remember that yep it was like people would come in they would come out it is what it is

00:18:44.000 so you know they're they're going to say oh well look did you know about this did you know about

00:18:48.940 that post so were you part of it i said look what i'm part of is exactly what james is saying what

00:18:55.320 charlie's saying what blake is getting into this idea that we need to fight back for our children

00:19:01.360 for the boys for the men out there and a lot of this starts that you know james you were saying before

00:19:06.360 about how they they seek to subvert it at the earliest level when i first heard about some of these

00:19:11.960 i always think of the anti-bullying programs right and for me and i think for most people

00:19:17.280 you know gen x and and like elder millennial and up the anti-bullying program was fight back

00:19:22.740 the anti-bullying program was punch them in the nose until it's bloody but then the anti-bullying

00:19:28.980 program became go tell the teacher go tell the principal appeal to authority don't assert yourself

00:19:37.580 don't stand up for yourself go look at was it charlie in um you know a christmas story right

00:19:43.700 he finally beats the bully he beats scott farkas he is the one who's then able ralphie he is the one

00:19:50.080 who's able to finally stand up for himself and this is his you know coming of age as part of the story

00:19:54.900 well now what happens if you have an entire generation of men who never come of age yeah it's

00:20:01.700 grown infants right it's the it's the peter pan lost boys that then run the generation and good

00:20:07.600 intentions don't result into good you know things necessarily the intention of the bullying movement

00:20:12.880 was wow kids are killing themselves and all this you know lowering of you know people's picture of

00:20:17.860 themselves and then the only way you then can continue the anti-bullying movement is to have a

00:20:23.040 whole society then reconfigured right you can't ever have offensive speech you can't ever have

00:20:28.120 negative things said about you blake should we bring back bullying it does seem quite possible

00:20:33.640 that all of the 80s bullies were essentially holding back all the neuroses that are now going

00:20:39.640 to destroy western civilization like a that's a thought from and you know it's like you said it was all

00:20:46.200 like oh we have to stop suicide and i mean suicide's not down no it's actually think about it the more

00:20:51.440 we've actually gone after bullying we have the most suicides in the history of young people ever

00:20:56.300 so it's not working i think there's something to be said for the idea that there needs to be a

00:21:02.140 certain amount of stress in life and you could almost compare it to like weightlifting the way

00:21:08.020 weightlifting makes you stronger is it actually stresses your muscles it tears them up and they

00:21:13.600 are rebuilt to be stronger and it could be that you know social dynamics between young people it's

00:21:19.820 stressful it's painful and it kind of just teaches you to not be a pussy and now just everyone's

00:21:26.240 a pussy until they grow up and they finally just yeah i mean life is really hard and then here's

00:21:30.100 what ends up happening is if you have a massive anti and i'm not defending bullying i think it's

00:21:34.700 you know a reprehensible practice in person but i can say this i was made stronger by having to stand

00:21:39.440 up to myself against some really cruel and awful people and i wouldn't be the person i was today

00:21:43.100 if it was just a soft fragile environment where someone had to pick my fights for me at the time it

00:21:48.400 was the worst thing ever and then you stand up to the demon you stand up to the person who thinks

00:21:52.860 they're strong and then you reach a level you never thought you could because you're a lot stronger

00:21:56.620 than you think yeah or you know another comparison could be like forest fires whereas remember when

00:22:00.940 trump got in all that trouble during his term because he pointed out like actually you need

00:22:04.620 some fires otherwise there's the big fire that burns everything down backburns so it could be the

00:22:08.940 proper response to bullying is like it's bad but either stand up for yourself or get over it

00:22:15.420 and you have to think of what's the function of the bully because what the bully is actually doing is

00:22:20.940 and as as much as maybe we don't like the method what they're doing is enforcing a standard

00:22:25.580 and so it's sort of a corollary of removing the bully is that we've also removed all standards at

00:22:30.620 the same course from across the board it's also it's also fighting for status like it's a status anxiety

00:22:36.940 thing and now you just get status by waging war through institutions here's the key though is we

00:22:42.860 didn't get rid of bullies we now made our bullies teachers and we made bullies government agents and

00:22:49.900 instead of now having the proper checks and balances to go against bullies which is strong

00:22:53.980 people understanding you have to defend yourself in the wild we have now elevated people that have

00:22:59.020 resentment towards the rest of the world and they turn them into groomers and so we've institutionalized

00:23:04.860 the bullying against you the innocent james final thoughts on this we'll get to the next segment yeah

00:23:09.820 listen so what we've done is that we've turned we've changed who the bullies are and made them

00:23:14.300 invincible which is the worst possible recipe that you could have when you talk about i actually in

00:23:20.300 a little in an odd place i think i'm the most pro-bullying person on the panel um with the

00:23:25.580 possible exception of jack uh i think and it serves a very important function as a matter of what are you

00:23:30.140 saying hey hey you know jack you and i met here on this stage i'm trying to have a moment with you you

00:23:41.900 you mean you mean met in like you mean met in like the biblical sense or no we're on a stage dude

00:23:47.180 calm down oh oh right right no that's later so you didn't say what kind of stage this stage

00:23:52.940 well we are talking about angie tate so no yeah well we are that's true um so so no bullying i'm

00:23:59.820 fairly pro-bullying actually in its context it does have to have breaks put on it it does have to be

00:24:05.820 controlled it can get out of control and cause problems hospital not more but there are two things

00:24:10.380 here that are both getting neutered in the process so one of the things is is how do you deal with

00:24:15.020 the bully well you talk about how charlie you rose to the challenge and to change who you are you grew

00:24:19.340 into who you are and it improved my life well male mentorship is meant to teach how to deal with that

00:24:24.140 that's exactly and we're losing that because now it's it's not even a teacher you're supposed to

00:24:28.300 tell me it's a trusted adult which means a groomer that's what they call groomers now is trusted

00:24:33.180 adults go find a trusted adult they'll take you to the gsa after school

00:24:36.300 love bomb you and next thing you know you're on hormones that actually makes me think of a

00:24:41.420 thought crime charlie what happens if you have if you have fatherless households in various aspects

00:24:49.260 of society that grow up without that masculine mentorship that never actually learn what positive

00:24:56.380 masculinity what happens to those girls no it's the young boys oh well we know the girls they end up

00:25:02.060 hooking up with a lot of dangerous adventurous men and are never able to have a stable relationship

00:25:06.380 largely yes right they end up like going from man to man of like quasi or this is not even like a

00:25:11.900 thought crime this or they become fatherless man or they become the man or they become the man but

00:25:17.740 more they the most sexual young girls are people that do not have strong male figures right yeah that's

00:25:23.340 just a fact um and so then but what happens to the young men without father figures is i mean that's

00:25:29.740 i actually really haven't thought deeply about that what ends up happening well i mean i get

00:25:34.220 they become super violent they become like lesser versions of themselves i guess right they become

00:25:38.300 like narco drug criminals basically right because you don't you you don't realize that you know like

00:25:45.020 you know just something i think about even even with my kids right so we'll you know i'll get home

00:25:49.340 and the very first thing they want to do is pounce right when i get home from work and it's like daddy's

00:25:54.940 home we're going to go wrestle and but at the same time like we might be throwing each other around

00:25:59.980 the room but but because i've got two little boys you know you always kind of make sure that hey

00:26:05.260 everyone's okay at the same time we understand there's a certain line that won't be crossed and so

00:26:10.460 something that i think about that occurred to me just while you know throwing my kids around the room

00:26:14.300 um was that it's a great way to get stressed out by the way especially when you're stressing your kids

00:26:19.260 um is that you're you're also teaching them that yes you know by being a man you do have you have

00:26:25.100 physical strength you have emotional strength but you also but there's also limitations and there's

00:26:30.060 also rules and there's responsibilities inherent to that so speaking of limitations and i segue to our

00:26:35.820 next topic hold up hold up let me finish because this is important okay james i know i can thank you

00:26:41.740 charlie though uh the because i gotta tell you why i'm pro-bullying and i didn't get there it's not

00:26:46.380 about male mentorship what did i tell you on your show last time i sat down in phoenix with you i

00:26:51.020 said was the most dangerous thing in the universe a frustrated nerd a frustrated academic is actually

00:26:56.300 what i said yes right bullying actually takes your academic narcissist and knocks them off their pedestal

00:27:04.380 these people who think they know how to organize society for everybody else because they're off in

00:27:08.860 their academic theory that they spun up used to get hit in the head they used to get their lunch money

00:27:14.140 taken from them they used to get shot in a locker they used to get called names they used to get

00:27:17.500 turned upside down they used to get wedgies i'm not saying that those are necessarily the best way to

00:27:21.660 deal with them but they used to get knocked down several pegs so like pete buddha judge used to be

00:27:26.860 thrown in a locker and now he's transportation secretary well this is a thing though frustrated

00:27:32.700 academics need to be knocked down speaking of universal vagina high secretary like isn't transportation

00:27:38.140 secretary like like the locker of the cabinet like i mean it is it's already a cabinet blake yeah

00:27:49.100 so james to complete your point the way that we stop ourselves from tyrannical nerds is to bring

00:27:53.740 back bullying well i mean it's got to be done you've got to keep an eye on it the james lindsey institute

00:27:59.580 of bullying i see it coming folks i see it coming i think we've won over half the room um not the other

00:28:05.180 half okay let's get to the next topic here speaking of limitations i know you are all excited for our

00:28:10.300 action conference this weekend right it's going to be amazing

00:28:15.980 now i i'm very curious okay who if the if you were to vote today who would you vote for trump

00:28:21.260 raise your hands who would vote for trump would you say that's 80 jack yeah that's about great well i'll

00:28:26.700 get to the other options but it's not even close obviously how about desantis raise your hand

00:28:31.420 okay it's about 15 people so uh donald trump will be here vivek ramaswam anyone for vivek you big

00:28:39.340 vivek vivek vivek you voted three times you voter fraud that is voted for all right all right now

00:28:44.940 who's running the santa's voting for doug bergum who's voting for doug bergum

00:28:50.540 bergamentum you're a doug bergum guy because you got the gift card probably

00:28:54.620 per voter bribery i'm not voting for him but i'm donating to him yeah yeah no donating it's like

00:29:01.020 it's the weirdest donation scheme ever i will give a dollar and i will it's actually reverse

00:29:04.780 money laundering the whole thing is so weird um okay so nikki haley anybody nikki nikki nikki

00:29:11.020 mike pence any big mike pence people make pence nope not oh no he gets booze the first one you're

00:29:16.060 chris christie guy that that would be that that'd be interesting um crispy chris who am i forgetting

00:29:21.500 tim scott any tim scott people tim tim tim scott's the new one right tim we all love tim scott now

00:29:27.100 uh no one for tim scott hutchinson hutchinson who will be here who will be here uh okay so i think

00:29:33.660 i think we've exhausted the list okay will heard mr cia himself right okay if i if i listed every

00:29:40.140 candidate jack we would be here until tuesday so we have a whole bunch of people coming president

00:29:44.940 donald trump will be here tucker carlson which you guys are i'm sure excited to hear from megan

00:29:49.980 kelly we love tucker steve bannon dan bongino don jr senator ted cruz senator jd vance senator eric

00:29:58.060 schmidt lineup is unbelievable everybody you guys are in the center of it all but noticeably missing

00:30:03.820 from it is governor ron desantis governor ron desantis declined uh and he is not attending jack how

00:30:10.940 should we think to see they're they're murmuring they're booing and you know what you guys have a

00:30:14.540 right to do that because he's going to be in the state and it's obviously not a priority to speak to

00:30:19.180 six thousand activists and two thousand students that are making things happen what's going on jack

00:30:23.740 why does he not have respect for the turning point students well you know charlie just just looking at

00:30:28.620 it from and you know i mean it's it's tough right you know i'm here at the event we do a lot with

00:30:32.460 turning point so it's it's tough for me to be objective about this but if i i try to be objective

00:30:37.260 and pull myself out of it you really have to look at it and say there are polls floridapolitics.com has

00:30:42.940 us out if you go look at the florida atlantic university poll it says that right now ron desantis

00:30:50.140 is down between down uh with trump with under 45 voters by 50 points a 50 point deficit with under

00:31:01.420 45 voters which as florida politics pointed out is significant because ron desantis himself is under 45.

00:31:09.020 he's actually 44 so he's a member of his own cohort this is the demographic that he and i didn't look

00:31:15.180 at all the crosstabs but i think that was the largest delta of the largest deficit of any group

00:31:20.540 that he had across the board his highest was actually with over 65s now in florida that helps

00:31:26.380 but across the country you know you certainly need more um need more of the youth vote and then at the

00:31:31.260 same you know charlie to your point and and of course to the people who are in this room right now

00:31:35.820 this select few you understand the importance of youth activism you understand that the people

00:31:41.740 that are coming to a turning point event this isn't just like a young conservative event no

00:31:46.460 these are the most switched on the most active the most boots on the ground that are going to go back

00:31:51.020 to and i think charlie you know correct me if i'm wrong but we're going to have all 50 states you know

00:31:55.020 here's the other thing jack is that yes we are best known as a student organization but as we as i grow

00:32:00.620 and we grow the organization grows we're going to have 300 pastors here you've been around our pastors

00:32:05.500 james these are serious people yeah they're switched on to 250 social media ambassadors 500 donors

00:32:11.420 10 billionaires 140 members of the press so he's not just snubbing young people he's saying to the

00:32:17.020 entire base i have something more important to do right so you've got a reflective slice of the entire

00:32:23.100 base 6 000 people yeah i just got 6 000 plus the amount of people that they touch through their

00:32:30.460 social media followings through their congregations through their chapters etc etc and so if you're

00:32:36.300 running for president you've got to win those people over you must do this let's play the devil's

00:32:41.020 advocate blake okay but he's probably saying on his team this is a trumpy crowd this is maga

00:32:46.380 i don't want to get a negative reaction so i'm not going to play ball can you win a primary by avoiding

00:32:51.260 voters you need to win over i don't think you can it's like okay you're running for you're running

00:32:56.860 for president and yeah is is trump really popular yeah is he kind of a dominant personality yeah can

00:33:02.540 his supporters be pretty rough with people yeah well you chose to enter a race against him you have to

00:33:08.300 beat him right like yeah i mean how are you going to win many of us how many fairy tales how many fairy

00:33:14.140 tales are there where like the hero is like i'm gonna run away from the dragon right hide from the dragon

00:33:19.100 and then like tldr they win somehow at the end but that's the anti-bullying fairy tale i'm gonna

00:33:26.220 report the dragon lord of the rings we're gonna go hide as far away as possible and the ring will

00:33:31.100 just fall into mount doom and yeah so so james i mean you're looking at this kind of as an outsider

00:33:37.580 insider you know us really well what do you think i mean can you speak to the missed opportunity that

00:33:42.620 this very you speak to a lot of turning point stuff you know we have something special going on here

00:33:47.100 yeah i mean i i told you this earlier today is this is the highest energy group active in politics

00:33:53.980 on the conservative side actually it's the highest energy group in politics that there is uh in the

00:33:58.220 country it's got the the widest reach the opportunity to to skip getting to talk to this when you're

00:34:05.340 running for president in particular yes it's just mind-boggling i was kind of hoping you weren't

00:34:10.860 going to ask me to talk about it because i'm just confused are you are you comfortable sharing what

00:34:14.780 you said privately if not that's fine on the de santis stuff i mean i can get a little bit around

00:34:19.500 the edges it kind of happened on twitter part of it did um i was on twitter and uh i criticized

00:34:25.660 something that the governor's wife some one of her initiatives that she put out about resilience

00:34:29.820 i think people should pay very close attention i don't necessarily think that people have bad

00:34:33.580 intentions here but the word resilience is a very captured term if you follow that world economic forum

00:34:38.700 you'll find that that's one of their like five major words they care about for the future of the

00:34:43.660 world uh it's literally a more sustainable inclusive and resilient world because it's like sustainable so

00:34:50.380 like yeah yeah it's way up there what resilience means by the way in woke speak is taking your

00:34:55.820 indoctrination and not complaining because otherwise you're fragile remember white fragility hey jack

00:35:00.460 you're a racist no i'm not white fragility the opposite of that would be resilience hey jack you're

00:35:04.940 a racist thank you may i have another that's resilient in in the military they'd call that

00:35:08.940 counter interrogation training well yeah so this is this idea so i said this is poorly branded and

00:35:15.500 they they went after me they were who went after you jeremy redfern the press secretary the press

00:35:21.660 secretary governor yes so he's like you're scared of words james like really jeremy you can do this

00:35:28.060 with me on social media wrong place bro yeah but it's just like that's a strange like twitter policing

00:35:32.940 it turned into this weird twitter policing thing and so then some people from the office called me

00:35:38.140 later and told me i need to apologize to the first lady and i was like what and i won't repeat the f

00:35:43.900 word that i said um they they asked you to apologize to casey desanis yes publicly publicly i recall another

00:35:53.020 presidential campaign that demanded apologies to like the candidate's wife and it didn't end well for

00:35:59.020 them yeah which campaign was that remember jeb bush oh is that you go to apologize to my wife why i

00:36:05.420 said nothing wrong so i mean i just i want to build this out a little bit before we get to the next topic

00:36:10.940 here and also talk about one of our partners this is a big event the the primary jack you're going to

00:36:16.220 iowa tomorrow as well where i'm gonna sniff him out i'm gonna sniff him out where desantis will be

00:36:22.300 um with talker trump will not be just getting out of here trump is so moved by the work you guys are

00:36:27.340 doing on the first phone call he's like i want to talk to your kids 100 that's how much he cares

00:36:32.540 about what you guys are doing i i really hope i hope that you understand that the uh the governor's

00:36:38.700 team does not does not have that same sort of attachment evidently so but but jack just talking

00:36:44.700 from like what let's map this out let's let's think about this a little bit more creatively if you

00:36:50.700 were desantis how should you have handled this is what i think he should have done he should have

00:36:55.260 called our team and said i want to buy a booth i'd like to have a thousand tickets i'd like to have

00:37:00.460 a sponsorship i would like to have i would i want a good speaking slot i want to host an influencer

00:37:05.500 reception god knows he's got enough influencers in south florida like every one of the twitter

00:37:09.180 people that support him live around here and then what ron desantis should do what he won't is he should

00:37:14.380 have come up on stage and do what i do on college campuses open mic disagree go to the front of the line

00:37:20.060 let's have it up you would have respected desantis if you did that 100 you would have been but he's

00:37:25.580 not doing that because he doesn't have that energy trump would do that trump would be like i'm the

00:37:31.740 alpha caitlin collins you disagree ask me anything we all yeah we were all everyone was thinking that

00:37:36.620 was a terrible idea for trump i don't i didn't it's it's an ambush i thought it was great they're gonna

00:37:41.340 they're gonna try to trap him he's like i'm gonna go on cnn and that's what we wanted to see and then all

00:37:45.340 of a sudden it's just like i am the biggest beast there is and you can't come through me if desantis

00:37:50.380 would have come here and did an open mic and every one of the objections people would be like oh i

00:37:54.540 think you're a globalist and he could have responded then with however he would have responded which

00:37:58.620 probably wouldn't pretty been pretty good he would have gone up in people's respect and people

00:38:02.460 like you know what that's a guy who would take on the fbi instead how is he going to take on the

00:38:06.300 fbi if he's not willing to talk to college and i said this as well it's you're you're running for

00:38:11.980 president right and and you know even if this one doesn't work out then you know potentially

00:38:17.900 there are florida senate seats that could be opened up here rick scott might be getting out

00:38:23.180 he's been talking about going back to his old job um you know rubio who knows what's going on there and

00:38:28.860 then there's potential other runs in the future obviously and so the way that you categorize yourself

00:38:34.540 now is going to carry with you right there's a reason we don't talk about scott walker anymore

00:38:40.380 there's a reason that jeb bush is a punchline now that mike pence is rapidly becoming himself

00:38:46.700 uh there's a reason that you know just say it like ted cruz he's gonna he's in the senate of texas

00:38:51.740 i don't know where else he goes after that right he's a text center probably as long as he wants to

00:38:55.740 be and i think he's a fantastic texas senator but there are levels to this right and you have to deal

00:39:01.100 with reality and maybe you need some bullies around to explain that to people but blake to your

00:39:05.820 but here's the thing trump is the bully the salt you know honestly i want him to go bully the fbi

00:39:10.620 right now exactly i want trump to go boy exactly like i want him to be our bully against these

00:39:16.700 woke commies and yeah if you're going to run against him in the primary he's not going to

00:39:20.700 allow himself and run then run yeah then actually run and play the game don't run ads and just go to

00:39:26.940 donor where where's the desantis boats going up and down the inter causeway you know where's the you

00:39:31.980 you know what's so bad about it is he's actually a great governor and he's an objectively great

00:39:36.380 governor with real policy accomplishments and a real conservative intercourse and even one i'm

00:39:41.180 being honest like i i don't want to lie about it like i don't i think everyone agrees and he's been

00:39:44.860 a great governor yeah now is messing up an opportunity to actually improve our party and and i hope it

00:39:49.660 i i genuinely hope it doesn't like permanently ruin either him or ruin like the relationship between

00:39:55.900 him and trump to the extent it's souring by them it is it is very strongly but you know we've seen this

00:40:01.580 before because i think it's not just that he's been a good governor but he does to some extent

00:40:07.260 fill holes in trump's game which is he is very execution focused and i think to the extent there's

00:40:13.900 a flaw with trump that he isn't always execution imagine if they work together yeah just i keep

00:40:18.700 saying it imagine if imagine if trump was the one who had to you know do his press conferences take all

00:40:24.460 of the flack from the press while his chief of staff or secretary or ag or whatever you want to

00:40:30.220 santa to do does a million things that are ultra controversial every day in a second trump

00:40:35.100 administration i think that could be incredibly powerful james you thought any closing thoughts

00:40:40.220 on this the only thought i mean i like i said i hope you didn't ask me too much about de santis

00:40:43.980 personally because i'm like why is he doing this okay but i just i did have the privilege of just

00:40:49.340 hearing um both of them speak actually like the last week and um you know de santis gave a great talk

00:40:56.380 is very policy oriented he could have given a great talk here it's a missed opportunity this

00:41:01.100 is what it is but that energy that you were talking about with trump was definitely there

00:41:04.620 just another anecdote during his talk and before his talk in a kind of a pre-event meet and greet

00:41:09.980 he did it three times i know of at least there's probably more but he said they said i can't say this

00:41:15.340 i don't care and then he said it that's the kind of energy that we actually need they said we can't say

00:41:21.340 this and i don't care i'll say it anyway and i i just just i don't have a good comment about mr

00:41:28.460 de santis on this one but i i see the energy with trump is still there yep it is what it is and uh

00:41:33.820 we're we're thrilled that he uh he's he's i will say this he wants to earn the nomination charlie can i

00:41:39.820 ask you something yeah sure how do you think it's going to go tomorrow with tucker and de santis i have

00:41:46.380 no idea i mean i i've i've heard whispers that you know tucker is going to let him have it here's

00:41:50.700 i mean tucker and ever my favorite part of the andrew tate interview is when tucker asked him

00:41:55.180 about ukraine i'm like he just can't help himself like every time tucker's in an interview it's like

00:41:59.900 it has to and i'm the same way yeah but that's my point like don't you think he's going to ask him

00:42:03.820 about and that's what i'm getting to it's like i it's impossible i mean is nikki haley really going

00:42:07.820 to take questions from tucker carlson please do it's like please i i i want to i'm just sitting

00:42:13.980 there with popcorn like let's go is mike pence really going to take questions from tucker carlson mike pence

00:42:20.060 might get knocked out of the race tomorrow by tucker carl yeah i mean do we even if he's

00:42:25.180 even still running like i mean so yeah i mean i hope tucker lets them all have it and says

00:42:30.060 why on earth are you mike pence visiting ukraine while we have 10 000 people invading our country

00:42:35.420 on a daily basis he has the perfect out he could just say he's running for president of ukraine

00:42:40.700 yes but that would require him to be honest and he's like i mean why are you going to ukraine

00:42:45.420 what like how many delegates when is the ukrainian primary i'm really confused you know you have to

00:42:49.660 be careful they're not having elections you have to be careful with that question because i don't

00:42:52.860 think we can rule out that the gop would give ukraine delegates oh no i could see mitch mcconnell

00:42:59.020 being like it's so true and the delegates for lvov cast their votes for their cave delegation

00:43:08.220 properly very in favor of mike pence the turtle so um it's a missed opportunity by ronda santis and

00:43:16.460 it's too bad um okay you guys can email us freedom at charliekirk.com i want to tell you about public

00:43:21.180 square you guys have got to download the public square app the three people that have already done

00:43:26.460 it love you guys six seven eight nine download the public square app public sq.com that is public sq.com

00:43:34.460 it is your navigational tool you might say what is public square are you sick of target grooming

00:43:39.260 our kids are you sick of these businesses going after us public square is a way where you could

00:43:43.980 find all the businesses near you when you travel or you go to college or your hometown or whatever

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00:43:54.220 it's called the public square app it's free of charge i use it all the time they have hundreds of

00:43:58.700 thousands of businesses now if you are a business owner you guys can get there they're a huge sponsor of

00:44:04.060 our show we think the world of public square so like right now you guys might be thinking oh wait

00:44:08.540 where do you want to go to lunch tomorrow or hey you know we're here for a couple days what if i told

00:44:12.860 you that in west palm beach there are dozens of conservative businesses that you can go in and you

00:44:18.140 can say you know what i want to shop of people that share my values not places that fly the pride

00:44:23.340 flag or the blm flag you find out through the public square app they are creating a conservative yelp

00:44:30.060 and they're growing like crazy jack we love public square don't we i mean public square is great

00:44:34.220 especially if you're someone who like i always say this but like my wife tanya tay who you know she

00:44:40.300 she wants to contribute she wants to give back she's running the family she's taking care of the kids

00:44:46.140 she wants to know which companies are good which ones are but by the way charlie you'll appreciate

00:44:49.740 this i said something to her the other day and i happen to mention target and she said she looked at

00:44:53.740 me goes i'm boycotting target and i said that's great but then i said where are we going and she

00:44:59.020 said i'm not sure that's where public square comes yeah that's where public square is so

00:45:03.180 download the public square app james have you downloaded are you familiar with it i had no

00:45:06.460 idea about it no it's a game changer you got to look at it they're growing like crazy in fact they're

00:45:10.540 actually going to be publicly listed on the new york stock exchange i think next week uh they have

00:45:15.260 a new diaper company to everylife.com that every life is so cool yeah so cool because all the diaper

00:45:20.620 companies i know this is not not be the demographic yet that cares about this but you will spend a lot

00:45:24.380 of money on diapers okay hi yeah i mean thousands of dollars you have no idea you have no it's

00:45:29.820 unbelievable and by the way i found out the diaper company that we're buying from cody a or whatever

00:45:34.780 pro-abortion pro-abortion diaper companies i mean you think about that right like i mean you would

00:45:40.860 think like you'd want more babies for your own business model you think this this is where the

00:45:45.340 libertarians get it wrong and i'm sorry libertarians but you'd think like some libertarians are pro-life but

00:45:49.660 a lot of the libertarians not all of them ron paul's pro-life by the way so it's rand paul so

00:45:54.140 it's rand paul obviously but i mean there's they where they say that companies will always act in

00:45:58.220 their best interest right i don't know that that's true because i haven't seen it i just haven't seen

00:46:02.860 it so it's public square app check it out public square app okay let's go to jonah hill this have you

00:46:10.220 guys seen this story yes no maybe i i i i read this and i said playing this one a little huh i said yeah

00:46:17.340 it might need some explanation i don't think it needs that much hill too old for these people what

00:46:21.340 yeah you guys know who jonah hill is these days watch you don't know who jonah hill is you don't

00:46:25.500 you guys never seen money ball super bad all right okay there's there's help there's

00:46:30.700 is this the woman that they're saying is a mid no that that's marjo robbie do you guys know who that is

00:46:35.980 she is mid wow okay okay that's uh that's that's quite a take um we'd love to see somebody defend

00:46:48.300 defend that one okay but so let's mike let's uh let's read it so jonah hill comes out and texts his

00:46:55.820 girlfriend who now she publicizes these text messages stating the following to be clear to be

00:47:00.780 ex now this is his ex-girlfriend this is about a year and a half ago and he's with someone else

00:47:08.140 now and they just had a baby apparently and this seems to have broken her brain to some extent these

00:47:13.420 texts were from when they were together a year and a half in the past they are not together now so

00:47:18.300 jonah hill sent a flurry of messages plain and simple if you need surfing with men boundaryless

00:47:25.500 inappropriate friendships with men if you need to model to post pictures of yourself in a bathing

00:47:30.380 suit to post sexual pictures friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild

00:47:35.980 recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful i am not the right partner

00:47:41.100 for you if these things bring you to a place of happiness i support it and there'll be no hard

00:47:45.980 feelings these are my boundaries for romantic partnership my boundaries with you based on the

00:47:50.700 way these actions have hurt our trust it's just constant and doesn't reflect where we're at or

00:47:55.580 where you want to be i respect your skill and your surfing i respect how you want to present yourself

00:48:00.140 i respect that you're hot and beautiful i respect however you want to live but i also respect myself

00:48:04.780 and what i'm interested in my own life and what i let into my heart in my inner circle so celebrate

00:48:08.700 yourself and life however you please and shine bright but i don't want to have to deal with it

00:48:12.460 is jonah hill wrong and it keeps on going it's the same thing the most abusive man to ever live

00:48:17.820 no i think jonah hill's 100 right like wait wait explain why you're saying that well because one

00:48:24.060 they're literally hyping it like he is the most abusive man in the world emotionally abusive there

00:48:28.460 have been like twitter feminists and white knights coming out and saying that this is the most abusive

00:48:36.140 gaslighting narcissistic uh action that a man has ever taken the the person who first wrote like

00:48:42.940 gaslighting as a modern essay like to describe behavior is responsible for a lot because it is

00:48:49.020 now the most overused term yeah just because just because a man is talking does not mean he's

00:48:54.060 gaslighting and just because a man has an opinion it doesn't make him a narcissist sorry women see

00:48:58.860 that's the toxic masculinity thing that's what it did to us is people are confused about that exactly

00:49:03.420 yeah totally it's also like the redditification of the human race or something there's like a

00:49:09.820 subreddit called raised by narcissists where a bunch of narcissists complain about how everyone

00:49:14.380 else is a narcissist

00:49:17.660 narcissist inception basically and so now we have this giant civil war and i'll i will say i think

00:49:25.980 i wouldn't say jonah hill is blameless in this because i think he probably did buy into this like

00:49:31.580 therapy speak cult that

00:49:33.820 this is not the way i would necessarily always want to communicate with someone but he is following

00:49:40.620 a script that is set for him and it is sort of proof that you can't win like he is doing exactly

00:49:45.260 what you're supposed to do according to these people and their react their reaction is to call

00:49:50.060 it that's super abuse but that's my point to begin with right is that so is he being abusive no he's not

00:49:55.420 being abusive he's talking around he's using this therapy speak to your point that is what the the modern

00:50:01.340 man who's in touch with his feelings is told to say you need to respect my boundaries you need to

00:50:07.100 respect my our relationship this is her trust all of this in the past this is our trust and i want

00:50:12.220 you to be happy and i want to respect yourself it's like jonah just man up if you if you don't like

00:50:17.100 what she's doing walk away just just leave i don't know i mean i'm doing that actually bounce

00:50:23.020 just bounce bro which i guess he did apparently what would andrew tate do it's yeah exactly i mean it's like

00:50:29.020 it's like why are you as a man trying to act like a woman and to get your wife or your not even your

00:50:35.740 wife your your girlfriend at this point to to enter into this sort of traditional uh relationship roles

00:50:43.820 and that's something where it's funny because when this came up i was talking to my wife about this

00:50:47.660 and my wife coming from eastern europe does not have like any of the woke programming mind virus crap

00:50:53.980 that you get in the west and remember the one thing that she really clued in on was like

00:50:59.340 if you're in a relationship with somebody why are you going and hanging out with people of the other

00:51:04.300 sex like that's just not something that's done in traditional cultures yet in the west we constantly

00:51:09.980 push that oh no this is just my guy friends oh no like it's cool i can hang out with some girls and

00:51:14.860 it's not you like no that's totally inappropriate maybe not cool and not appropriate and i'm not saying we

00:51:20.300 need to go like full taliban and you know you're not allowed to leave the house if you're a single

00:51:24.300 woman without a man that you're related to women should not have man men friends if you're in a

00:51:28.620 relationship period but that's right then that's what tanya said why would i do that i should i would

00:51:32.940 never do that to you and it would never occur to her to do that to me no it's deeply unhealthy and

00:51:37.820 results in affairs cheating or gossiping relationships uh that are really deeply hurtful i don't know i read

00:51:44.780 these jonah texts and i actually have respect for him to tell his girlfriend to like stop acting

00:51:50.060 slutty on like social media and be like i don't want to be with you if you're going to be like that

00:51:53.660 like i totally respect that i think he's kind of being a little bit like i'm going to i'm going to

00:51:58.620 draw a line and if not like go find go be your own person he's trying he's he's trying but it's also

00:52:06.620 private conversation that got leaked too like that whoever this deranged lunatic woman is and they're

00:52:12.620 like oh he's so controlling like yeah apparently he's laying out a pretty bad case against you

00:52:17.660 that what your boundary boundaryless inappropriate friendships with men posting pictures of yourself

00:52:23.180 in a bathing suit totally inappropriate in a relationship friendships with women who are in

00:52:27.100 unstable places a fun angle to this is that when he's the bathing suit thing is she works as a surf

00:52:32.060 instructor at least on the side and they're like he's destroying her career this is an attack on

00:52:37.260 you know the equality of their careers well i looked it up and she has like 9 000 instagram

00:52:43.420 followers or something it maybe was more than that it was it was a low amount considering she had been

00:52:48.540 mega in the news for several years and you know in comparison like he's a movie star even if even if

00:52:55.580 he is a star famous for playing like fat accountants he's still a movie star and it just felt very

00:53:03.020 strange to be like oh he's he's derailing her career oh my gosh and she's like in law school now

00:53:08.700 don't go to law school he's it's it's it's the issue i mean it it actually does have a ton of layers

00:53:14.380 to it right it's is is he acting and maybe james you can get your take on this like is he trying it's

00:53:20.940 like he's trying to be assertive but he doesn't know how to have masculine assertiveness because he only

00:53:26.860 thinks he's allowed to in this sort of feminized uh therapy group session kind of thing which by the

00:53:34.140 way if you go to couples therapy then uh the the the therapist will simply just say whatever the man

00:53:40.620 says is wrong whatever the woman says is right whatever makes her happy is good that's that's

00:53:45.900 part of this which is part of the justification for her blowing this up publicly is he has been

00:53:51.660 very public about like his working relationship with his therapist and they've essentially tried

00:53:57.660 to cancel his therapist as well for like taking his side in some of these so is it the same i i don't

00:54:04.460 know if it was always the same one i try not to read too much celebrity gossip otherwise you become gay

00:54:10.540 over time uh and so but apparently like yeah this is obviously they're like this evil therapist who sided

00:54:17.740 with this abusive man no but that's what happens in controlling behavior it's like prince harry and

00:54:22.460 megan right so this is the same thing like prince harry used to be the one who was like going to

00:54:27.180 afghanistan and smoking terrorists and now he comes in and he's like i you know i i feel so bad and you know

00:54:34.780 my my daddy called me a naughty you know a naughty word and he said something about megan and i think he

00:54:39.660 looked at her racially he looked at her racially a little bit and he starts like crying up there and

00:54:45.340 it's like dude you were the good one you were the cool thing is is we know that's going to end with

00:54:50.140 her accusing him of being emotionally abusive that divorce and they're going to need to send epic

00:54:56.380 they're going to need to send the sas to like extract this royal princeling from los angeles he

00:55:02.460 might not make it out alive he made it out of afghanistan alive but he may not make it out of megan

00:55:06.860 alive uh so that was a weird setup guys um i've got your thoughts i don't oh so i kind of agree with

00:55:13.420 charlie i think like whatever this is how the guy said look i'm not comfortable with this do what you

00:55:17.420 want if you want to go be somebody else it's not my business to police you see you by whatever fine

00:55:23.180 good for him if that's how he would communicate i don't care if he's in therapeutic culture i don't

00:55:26.860 care it's like fine by me whatever what i see is this pattern that you guys just kind of like

00:55:31.900 megan markled out on is in this case is likely the case given why these texts are in front of us in

00:55:38.140 the first place is the unbelievable pathology that a man will twist himself into to get with a

00:55:44.780 unhealthy woman yep you will break yourself and i've seen this happen so many times with so many

00:55:51.180 men you you will find that there's a woman and she's a bit of a narcissist and you will twist

00:55:55.020 yourself in knots where everything she does is okay so that you can continue to be her narcissistic

00:56:00.380 supply i can fix her i can fix her it's not even i can fix her it's like she's probably hot

00:56:04.780 she's probably fun to be around and then you're like i have all this benefit and then you're

00:56:09.740 actually kind of trapped because look what happened he's he draws these lines whatever he moves on with

00:56:14.620 his life he ends up having a kid and she's like nuclear bomb on your life dude james are you referring

00:56:20.700 to the hot crazy matrix well i mean it's obviously relevant you know you get way up there on the because

00:56:26.940 if you're up there in that zone how many of you guys know what we're talking about the hot crazy

00:56:30.300 matrix crazy matrix is like in the bible yeah this is this is um that's in leviticus

00:56:39.100 that also leviticus also yeah um this this is this is your redheads this is your strippers your

00:56:44.860 hairdressers your women named tiffany i heard one time that anytime you know one of the great videos

00:56:51.100 well in your life god will send you a actually following ends with an a so it's a woman named

00:56:55.500 who's in name wins with an a sorry girls um but the fact of the matter is though that that chasing

00:57:03.340 so listen young man let me give you some andrew tate advice let's go chasing a emotionally unhealthy

00:57:09.020 woman and you can usually tell they are because they post too much of themselves on social media

00:57:12.860 it's true will break you you have to be extraordinary levels of based to be able to pull back from that

00:57:21.740 and not cause that to have problems i've had serious friends get completely warped around a

00:57:25.900 narcissistic woman narcissism isn't just a problem with wokies it's a problem more broadly and

00:57:31.740 you know you've you see what can happen um you get this kind of like perma fed mentality where

00:57:37.260 anything you do later may be held against you well charlie you you actually talk about this because

00:57:42.780 you know this is the intersection of where social media actually feeds this kind of behavior

00:57:47.740 yeah no the uh social media we think about it so what are you doing here tonight on a thursday

00:57:52.460 night and this weekend you're being social who the people right now on social media are being

00:57:57.980 anti-social and so the actually the most anti-social people engage the most on social media like jack

00:58:03.660 and so kidding jack so and but you think that the incentive structure on social media is to get

00:58:09.180 really really good and hyper engaged and to get things to go viral unless you're doing something

00:58:14.220 super interesting in the real world that then translates into actual social media content

00:58:18.380 people want to see then the anti-social people engage the most in the platform that's supposed

00:58:25.020 to be a reflection of socialization so it's the actual inverse right and because you have to spend

00:58:31.420 so much time and you actually burrow yourself in and then it becomes it doesn't become a reflection

00:58:36.140 of reality it becomes a reflection of a pathology well you're cloud chasing yes exactly

00:58:40.140 short way to say you're just cloud chasing yeah there's a there's a nerdy word for that called

00:58:43.740 parasocial parasocial relationships yeah parasocial relationships yeah if you confuse those for real

00:58:48.780 social relationships you're lost if you don't have any real social relationships and they're all

00:58:52.940 parasocial you're lost it's a really bad place to be we could get a full jordan peterson on this though

00:58:57.820 because he very famously at one point said you know well the difference between the internet is that

00:59:02.540 male aggression doesn't upload but female aggression uploads very well but what actually really uploads

00:59:07.820 really really well is personality disorders yes and that anti-social behavior gets you a lot of

00:59:15.740 places in social media so the technology factor what social media brings to the table does in fact feed

00:59:20.940 these broadly cluster b personality disorders that are running rampant and causing dysfunction

00:59:26.700 throughout our society and then with children cutting their genitals off and to use a less you know

00:59:31.660 nerdy term too many parasocial relationships leads to becoming a pay pig and you don't want to be a pay

00:59:38.620 pig you definitely don't want to be a pay pig charlie what's that what's it's basically when you're

00:59:43.980 older what's the synonym it's it's the same thing as being a fin dom to be a fin don i'm dom what is that

00:59:52.940 well i say it's the inverse of being a fin dom the inverse of being a fin dom you'd be a fin sub

00:59:57.020 got it so we're coming full circle we'll go should we explain to charlie what a fin sub and a pay pig

01:00:05.500 are should we explain to charlie is jack bullying charlie so no well this is this this is part of the

01:00:11.740 the thought crime so it's basically it it i can explain this very easily because we just talked

01:00:16.300 about andrew tate and his former business right running cam girls so this would be the customer base

01:00:23.020 for that this would be the marks this would be the targets of the men who are then watching the

01:00:30.380 camera girls who then if they really get hooked in uh what andrew tate has and he's talked about

01:00:36.700 this publicly that he would actually take over the girls accounts and then start finding all the

01:00:42.140 different ways to get the men to send to send more and more money well now i know and then they're they're

01:00:48.220 pay pigs which is just a fun word to say over and over again especially around people who don't

01:00:53.580 know what it means and with that we hit a new all-time high for simultaneous viewers how many

01:00:58.540 people do we have watching uh over 5 000 uh 51 46 right now oh wow nice there we go let's take some

01:01:07.260 questions with the time we have remaining do we have the ability to do that with uh some mics and stuff

01:01:11.260 i'd love to do we can just repeat yes we do yeah we do where's the guy who said margot robbie was a mid

01:01:15.500 i want him up all right do you want to ask a question defend it defend it no courage these

01:01:22.860 days i know right thank you it's all the anti-bullying hey guys uh i'm josiah martin from upstate new york

01:01:30.060 chapter president and a small business owner and i resonate with what charlie said earlier about

01:01:34.540 being an entrepreneur and my goal is in life is to become that entrepreneur and i was just wondering

01:01:39.420 what advice you'd have for me i've looked up to you guys a lot especially charlie and the ambition

01:01:43.580 that you have in growing turning point and i would love to hear what you'd have for me as a

01:01:47.260 small business owner to grow and also how do we get more young people to become owners um are you in

01:01:53.020 college no okay good that's the first thing don't go to college if you want to that's why i'm a business

01:01:57.900 owner yeah good um so the the first thing is you might i mean i don't want to speak for everybody

01:02:03.900 here but a couple things when it comes to business is when you have very little take the biggest

01:02:09.100 possible risk so if while you're small you should that's the time to take risk be very careful with

01:02:14.060 debt try to operate debt free so when i take risk i'm talking about leveraging what you can lose

01:02:20.300 without actually having to go into the negative right so basically your time the best investment

01:02:25.180 you can make is in yourself because that is an investment that appreciates over time so in your

01:02:29.100 knowledge your wisdom your body your physique your your vitality your energy um and so when you're a

01:02:35.660 small business you are the business so you must invest yourself and you have to outwork your your

01:02:41.100 highest working employee by two right so not just not just in hours but just in commitment and in all

01:02:47.180 those different things and you have to set the pace so once the business starts to get to scale 10

01:02:51.980 to 15 20 to 25 30 to 35 then all of a sudden your job as a leader is less of doing the work casting the

01:02:58.780 vision and then getting proper information and data and making sure that that vision is constantly being

01:03:03.180 fulfilled um and it's just a non-stop thing of building a good team finding loyal people hiring

01:03:08.620 the right people firing the bad people kind of repeating that um and then there will be an

01:03:12.940 inflection point after 18 to 24 months where you have to decide if you actually want to keep doing

01:03:17.180 whatever you're doing what kind of business are you in by the way we make handmade pretzels and also

01:03:21.100 retail oh that's amazing so i mean you you could potentially become a billionaire in that not

01:03:25.660 not kidding right like there's people have made billionaire become billionaires and all sorts of

01:03:29.580 different anti-annes and starbucks like dunkin donuts and so you're in a very labor intensive

01:03:34.140 business and a low margin high volume business that in some ways has been commoditized so you

01:03:38.540 need to find a way to try to find a differentiator either in branding or recipe quality and all that

01:03:43.500 stuff raises the price and the cost so how do you compensate for that you're gonna have to work

01:03:47.340 more hours well hey hey don't forget by the way public square that's right you should be on public

01:03:53.100 square yeah there we go that's right i do think it's worth so if you if you by the way i don't

01:03:59.180 know if we mentioned earlier but if you have a business you can obviously list yourself on public

01:04:03.020 square is my point and i think it's worth emphasizing that i think in our heads we think uh we've been

01:04:09.020 propagandized to see a startup as like a 100 new idea like you're going to start a new tech product

01:04:15.660 or a new website or a totally you know even like a totally unique recipe of pretzel or something

01:04:21.740 james lindsey school institute of bullying yeah there there's a huge there's a huge number of

01:04:25.660 businesses that are just traditional businesses that you can do that there's just not a lot of

01:04:29.740 people who do for example like bespoke carpentry there's a ton of anything that got backed up during

01:04:35.900 covet is technically something that would be ripe for like entrepreneurship my brother is carpentry

01:04:40.140 exactly like and not not just generic but do like if you learn how to install something a lot of

01:04:44.380 people want but only one person knows how to do you know it's much easier to outcompete one person on

01:04:49.660 being more available or having a slightly cheaper price or being better at it than them and there's

01:04:56.780 literally hundreds of businesses you can do that in and it can be as basic as like having a better

01:05:01.100 like storage company than the one that already exists in your town sure yeah and so basically

01:05:06.940 you have to want it more than the next person the thing that i realized after four or five years of

01:05:11.340 doing this attorney point is that grit hustle and desire are not equally distributed amongst competitors

01:05:16.860 like most people in politics really are super lazy and i thought everyone wanted to be successful as

01:05:21.100 much as i did and actually make an impact and so as long as you want it more you're going to be

01:05:25.580 successful and then if you have good ideas and finally ethics will be your defining characteristic

01:05:30.540 you must act in an ethical way never tell a lie always tell the truth treat people well be clear

01:05:34.860 with your standards i could write a whole book on all this stuff but smarter minds than me have so if

01:05:39.180 you're more interested in business advice i happy to talk about it later so one more point i want to

01:05:43.420 make i want to pitch an idea to you guys of making the shark tank an airbnb for jobs where it'd be

01:05:50.620 uh people would do an apprenticeship instead of um all this college nonsense they'll be able to come

01:05:55.900 and learn hard skills out of business it's a good idea that's uh the person who to has the time i don't

01:06:01.500 have the time to disrupt the college industry will become a billionaire if somebody wants to become a

01:06:05.580 billionaire there is a there is a hundred billion dollar opportunity to create something that is in

01:06:10.620 college that can get people equipped trained for low cost it is a 100 billion dollar idea no exaggeration

01:06:17.100 it is the greatest need right now in job training and placement college is a scam wrote a whole book

01:06:21.100 on it companies companies know that you know college graduates mean nothing the piece of paper means

01:06:26.460 nothing so who's going to fill the void maybe when you guys will yes thank you very much unless it's

01:06:31.500 hillsdale yes i know yeah okay great i got to say it every time hey charlie you know people who are lazy

01:06:36.460 and don't have any hustle in politics and here i didn't even think we were going to talk about

01:06:39.980 yaf tonight about the what about yaf all next question so howdy y'all my name's ethan parks i'm

01:06:47.500 from sumter county florida you know where the villages is yeah yeah i love the village yeah i'm

01:06:51.340 right below there it's county that's quite a place the villages yes yes quite a place loofah's everywhere

01:06:58.540 so i go to south sumter high school i'm the chapter president there um you're right so thank you

01:07:05.100 so i'm in kind of a sticky situation my principal you know villages is a conservative area that area

01:07:11.340 very conservative my principal's conservative but he's scared of the leftist and won't let us meet

01:07:18.060 during the school day he said we have to do after school but lots of us have jobs including myself so

01:07:23.020 i can't do after school and you know i've had the thought of reporting it to someone you know because

01:07:30.140 that's limiting our free speech we have the right to do that he'll let the fishing club meet but won't

01:07:35.660 let us so my mom's also the assistant principal so i'm i'm kind of in a box there with what i can do so

01:07:46.140 do you all have any like information or advice that i can use somebody else want to kick this one

01:07:52.780 uh you're pointing at me like i'm a lawyer and i just i just know a lot of lawyers uh no but uh

01:08:00.540 what would immediately stand out to me is just any you know even if you're a political organization if

01:08:06.860 you're a club that is allowed to exist at your school which you are like if they're they have to

01:08:11.340 treat you just like they would treat any other clubs that is right yeah obviously any other political

01:08:15.820 club but even non most non-political clubs so like they do have the obligation to treat you all the same

01:08:21.580 how you should specifically react to it you know with your specific situation i'm not there i can't

01:08:26.540 easily dictate it but i think you would have a very strong argument to say like you actually have a

01:08:31.260 legal obligation to treat us the same way as you would treat any other organization here and if you're

01:08:36.940 not willing to do that like well you can threaten to sue them i suppose yeah and i mean i would just i

01:08:42.380 would just try to demand for equal treatment too right and just try to be a little bit you know of a

01:08:46.860 respectful pest as we put it right and you know you're gonna get more with sugar than you are with

01:08:52.700 spice you're in high school right yes especially in high school yeah but i mean trying to have like

01:08:57.980 trying to be in a place of fear and saying we can't give you space is just not right so next question

01:09:02.460 let's try me as many as we can by the way if it were me i would just have a meeting anyway man just do

01:09:06.540 it yeah i i totally find a space and say hey we're meeting so shut it down hello hi my name is kristen

01:09:13.500 lameda i am the president of florida international university turning point usa chapter and i started

01:09:20.380 the turning point usa chapter as well in miami dade college because i'm a transfer student to

01:09:25.660 florida international university um i've always aspired to get into politics and law but lately

01:09:31.980 i'm political science major lately has i been like progressing in my ice college career now i'm a senior

01:09:39.580 um i have my aspirations have changed and my aspiration to go to law school has dwindled and

01:09:45.820 i feel that i have another calling which is to do something entrepreneurial and higher education and

01:09:53.020 i would love to create another hillsdale or another liberty university so i was wondering um if you had

01:09:59.980 any advice of how to start um like a a private institution like that um a conservative god-fearing

01:10:09.100 institution and also what your thoughts are like for example um i'm from florida de santa's uh they

01:10:16.300 reformed a new college and now they want to make it conservative and so some people when they hear my idea

01:10:22.940 of wanting to start like a conservative institution they say no just focus on capturing the universities

01:10:29.740 which i think we need to do a little bit both so what do you think we need to do a little bit of

01:10:33.500 both or just one of them or well james you're familiar with some of the stuff the higher education

01:10:38.060 reform stuff right i mean yeah it's a challenge it's a real challenge i think i actually agree

01:10:42.540 with you that both need to be happening you want to put pressure on the existing institutions and make

01:10:46.700 them realize that they need to reform but at the same time if they have no competitors they're not that

01:10:52.380 likely to give a crap and so you've got to have kind of some of both it's probably i've never tried to

01:10:57.900 start a university but i'm assuming it's not easy uh it's very hard so you should go by the turning

01:11:03.900 point academy booth they're going to be here all weekend starting on saturday and just tell them

01:11:08.780 your story tell them your chapter leader they would love they would love to chat with you and i would

01:11:12.220 love to talk to you uh james lindsay and charlie kirk about the ideas i have for higher education to

01:11:17.260 see if you guys have i love it any ideas to add god bless you thank you so much thank you all right

01:11:22.460 let's get to as many as we can everybody so let's get straight to the questions yes all righty so charlie this

01:11:26.620 one's probably going to be more for you i tried to ask earlier but the mike lady didn't get to me

01:11:31.100 so i'm very passionate about agriculture i grew up on a farm i know that you guys just added um

01:11:36.060 stephanie nash on as an ag ambassador um so i'm just kind of wondering um how i can connect my passion

01:11:42.540 for agriculture and politics for advocating for that through turning point because like i'm sure

01:11:48.460 everybody heard about this lab grown meat like what is that china is still buying up our land what is

01:11:54.540 that why in the hell are we buying meat and other products from overseas when we grow it just

01:12:01.340 perfectly fine here in the u.s you know what i mean so do you have any resources for me or any advice

01:12:06.220 of how i can kind of get connected in that where are you from um i'm in south dakota yeah that makes

01:12:11.660 sense um aren't you from south dakota yeah what part uh i'm not from a farm i am non falls the only city of

01:12:19.660 size so and you were raised on a farm i imagine yep are you studying agriculture in college or yep

01:12:24.940 okay are they teaching you anything no yeah yeah i'm planning on transferring to a two-year because

01:12:31.340 i can get tuition reimbursement but at this point i really don't want to be in school is it true would

01:12:36.540 you say it's true you learned more on the farm growing up than in college 100 and an ffa yeah then

01:12:40.780 why'd you go to college um because it was really pushed on me i was a first generation i'm not trying

01:12:45.900 yeah yeah i'm not trying to make you feel bad okay so i believe firmly that our food supply is

01:12:51.100 one of the most important things that we need to talk about as conservatives okay i'm a big organic

01:12:55.340 guy i like locavorian i'm not a gmo fan i know that that's like controversial in the midwest but i

01:13:00.300 think gmos are terrible and awful and really bad um and i think that the food supply is going to be one

01:13:05.740 of the things that the world economic forum the globalists and the left go after we as conservatives

01:13:10.460 have to reject processed food we have to reject all this crap that we put in our foods the dyes

01:13:15.420 red 40 purple 22 you know by the way these oils canola oil all that it is garbage for you okay we

01:13:24.060 eat way too much sugar way too much carbohydrates i know the farmers hate when i say this but honestly

01:13:29.020 corn is not good for you okay corn is real and i know people are going to boo me off stage but corn

01:13:34.380 has no nutritional value it's not good for you blake you'll back me up on this right corn is a demon

01:13:39.660 yeah corn is really bad for you cows are great for you though so that's what i will agree we should

01:13:44.380 have more cows and kill more cows and eat more meat okay um dairy i'm not a big believer in but

01:13:49.580 that's a separate issue but we need conservatives in agriculture and if that's your calling you are on

01:13:55.420 a righteous path because the worst vermin are getting involved in our food supply right now

01:14:02.140 and we're all going to be less free because of what's happening with our food james you're nodding

01:14:07.420 along an agreement can you elaborate on that i mean it's the global program that we're all being

01:14:13.900 subjected to to kind of just give it a bland name um the the coming tyranny has to control the food supply

01:14:19.900 and if we don't take very seriously controlling our own food supply and taking it to healthy places as

01:14:26.860 opposed to unhealthy places we're in really really bad trouble um we already saw the huge farmer issue

01:14:32.780 in the netherlands obviously now that seems to be bearing a little bit of fruit in in the right

01:14:37.100 direction sort of now but uh with root head to leave or however you say that guy's name jack

01:14:42.060 do you notice that guy's name the former prime minister of uh well is it the whole government

01:14:45.900 collapsed yeah boohoo for this and migrants yeah so we've got to fight this fight and i agree with

01:14:50.620 charlie you're i'm not going to call corn a demon i'm not i don't i'm not as a dietarily uh i don't

01:14:56.060 think anyone should eat corn i i think it's bad for you corn syrup it just if you look actually through

01:15:01.740 here's your here's the proof if you eat a cob of corn you see a lot of it when it exits your body

01:15:07.740 right your body's literally rejecting corn charlie has a newborn just everybody knows

01:15:13.500 a newborn oh yeah that's right and so just trying to help you out buddy corn is very cheap to grow

01:15:19.580 but it's not you don't need as you need you don't need carbohydrates to live by the way there's three

01:15:23.980 types of food fat protein carbohydrates get rid of all carbohydrates in your in your diet eat healthy fats

01:15:29.100 and protein and you will be at a manageable weight for you charlie how about this maybe because i mean

01:15:34.140 i'm hearing the great questions here i mean what about like uh you know turning point farming turning

01:15:39.820 point yeah you know i think i think you could lead it but i'm just saying it seems like i'm gonna get

01:15:45.660 so many emails from we have so many farmers that listen to us and i have so much respect for them

01:15:49.100 i'm not trying to insult their life's work of harvesting corn i just think it's i think i think

01:15:53.660 the abundance of corn in western society is directly related to our obesity epidemic it's

01:15:59.420 directly related from corn high fructose corn syrup to the mass production it is it goes directly into

01:16:06.460 glucose creation into your body your body does not turn into anything useful except fat and maybe

01:16:12.300 immediate sugar high energy any other thoughts never forget charlie that the civilization that gave us

01:16:18.380 domesticated cultivated corn also believed in ripping people's beating hearts out of their

01:16:24.060 bodies to keep the sun rising no correlation i'm sure but the most nutritious the the societies that

01:16:30.380 lived the longest and actually had the best health outcomes were rooted in rice one of the reasons we

01:16:35.820 switched over to so much corn is because of the ethanol subsidies as well and we yeah and that's

01:16:40.380 that's a hotly debated thing again i'm very appreciative of farmers and what they're doing especially in

01:16:45.980 harvesting cows because we need more cows even they're not like climate change and all that

01:16:50.460 but i think that the more we get away from our fixation with you might say i don't eat corn

01:16:56.780 i bet i could prove to you that you have a lot of corn in your diet your salad dressing your your soft

01:17:02.300 drinks your desserts the amount of corn in our diet is just ridiculous i'm just imagining the media

01:17:08.780 matters headline charlie kirk's pogrom on corn america america has apostatized from christianity

01:17:16.620 to worship the new god of corn and that is why that is why the caucuses are in iowa that is why we

01:17:22.460 do ethanol that's why i was the first in the it's the corn to iowa by the way i will if i if i were to

01:17:28.460 ever do anything i would be booed off a stage in iowa for saying that corn is not good i'm sorry but

01:17:33.020 it's just it's just not good well something else you'll boo me something else that's not good is

01:17:37.980 what you said is letting letting chinese and weirdo billionaires with nefarious plans buy all of our

01:17:43.820 farmland and our an issue that actually fits kind of within the spirit of your question is that

01:17:48.860 uh communities can come together and start demanding that their uh counties or whatever

01:17:53.820 else say no to this even if it would rescue the community financially there are communities that have

01:17:58.380 done this that have organized and fought back on this issue and said no we're not going to sell

01:18:01.980 our farmland to chinese even if the money would help and that's a very very powerful issue that

01:18:07.660 i could see fitting in with the spirit of your question it's a it's a good point of the spear to

01:18:11.580 start working a lot of americans are very aware that selling our farmland in massive amounts to chinese

01:18:17.820 interests or ccp interests i should be more clear and to selling it to bill gates is probably not that

01:18:22.700 great and those become community level issues around which politics can be organized that can make a

01:18:29.260 massive difference where it really matters it turns out whether you like corn or not

01:18:33.340 all right next question thank you thank you i'm very pro corn farmer for the record okay all right

01:18:38.940 i just want to start by saying thank you guys um it's a real honor that i get to ask you guys

01:18:42.700 questions right now um but my name is george cecil and i'm from the great state of idaho

01:18:47.100 i was raised on a ranch and i was homeschooled and my question for you guys today is actually about

01:18:52.700 digital currency um so people in my area are really concerned that america is going to be

01:18:58.060 going to like digital currency in the future and they're really worried about the implications of

01:19:02.060 that um what are your guys thoughts on that if it's going to be coming up soon and what we could

01:19:06.620 do to hopefully prevent it or what's going to be happening with that i mean it's coming soon that's for

01:19:11.420 sure i mean they openly said i forgot who it was when i say they there was a person with a name

01:19:15.900 and as uh some slightly scarier voices and me say and an address who did say this um that it by september

01:19:23.820 which is a very odd month to have picked uh 2024 that the shift to a digital dollar should be something

01:19:30.620 that's fully in motion um what i would say about what you're talking about with your with your your

01:19:36.620 colleagues and friends in idaho is that they're on the right track um digital currency is not currency

01:19:43.020 unless there are some massive massive massive safeguards that we don't even have anything like

01:19:48.940 the infrastructure to put into place to protect people it is a set of digital coupons by which

01:19:54.700 the most effective and powerful tyranny the world has ever seen can be put on people it is the vehicle

01:20:00.300 for a social credit system from which there is no escape it's not just a social credit system that's

01:20:04.940 an app that annoys you tells you when you can buy a train ticket or when you can buy beef or when you can

01:20:09.580 it is what your money can be used for if anything at all based on who you happen to be what you happen

01:20:16.620 to have done did you come to a meeting like this which is super not okay did you listen to thought

01:20:21.500 crimes which is not okay yeah i mean we saw in the canadian trucker revolt that they turned people's

01:20:27.500 money off they froze their accounts now imagine currency that can be turned off for certain items

01:20:34.540 for like i said me plane tickets train tickets whatever you want i'm thinking very european

01:20:40.460 and chinese with the train tickets because in china first charlie to buy all the corn yeah yes that's

01:20:45.500 right yeah they'll force feed charlie all the corn in the world um all his money can buy is corn and

01:20:50.460 the corn farmers will will laugh and uh schaden fraud or however you say it schadenfreude say it

01:20:55.900 say it in german for me schneidenfreude schadenfreude or whatever that thing where you're happy that

01:21:01.180 somebody's had yes the lighting the lighting in people's suffering the most important thing in

01:21:05.900 the world though is that we have to stop as big as the farm thing was the most important thing in

01:21:10.140 the world is that we have to not have digital currency but i'd also i guess just add that to

01:21:14.700 your to your question about you know is it coming it's here we already have digital the dollar is already

01:21:21.660 digital how many times in the course of a regular week think about this do you actually use physical

01:21:28.220 cash right you're using apple pay you're using whatever on your phone you're using stripe using

01:21:33.340 square you're using even when you use your card so i think about it you know talking about my kids

01:21:37.340 again the only time my kids actually see dollars is when we're at church and we're giving in the

01:21:41.900 collection plate that's it i i've even gone to the atm just make sure i have cash before i go to church

01:21:47.420 and then even then they've got the qr codes up in the pews now so we we need to be very careful about

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01:22:57.500 okay we'll get to a couple more questions we have 4 300 people watching right now so great question

01:23:02.540 thank you next question uh hi guys um charlie i watched your yes or no video with michael moles

01:23:07.900 and i absolutely loved it thank you and i was a little bit perplexed to hear that you're not in

01:23:12.140 favor of the death penalty yeah and i was wondering if you can elaborate on that and also what everyone

01:23:16.620 else's view on the panel is about the death penalty so yeah if you would have asked me this question i

01:23:24.540 would have been a lot more forceful years ago as being against the death penalty so let me talk on if

01:23:29.660 we had a functioning society and a a government that was set up properly a life should be for a life

01:23:37.980 period you murder you should be you should be you should be killed by the state this is in genesis

01:23:42.300 it's yeah it's in genesis it's in exodus it's in leviticus it's very clear so that's my moral

01:23:49.020 position okay the hesitation i have is our current government when you execute somebody that then gets

01:23:58.300 exonerated 10 or 20 years later the wrongful execution of people that makes me take a little

01:24:03.420 pause number two i'm generally on this theme of if you give government the ability to kill us that

01:24:09.900 they're going to like start droning us i know that sounds really crazy but like the the erosion of

01:24:14.860 due process and how government is abusing every power we give them is disproportionately used against

01:24:20.220 conservatives so the third thing this this really shouldn't matter as much because we spend money

01:24:25.100 on stupid stuff the death penalty is actually more expensive i know it might sound differently

01:24:29.020 you know might be less expensive um but i i have changed in once i used to be like totally against it

01:24:35.820 a lot more like civil libertarian on it but i've moved because you in the sense of if we had a

01:24:43.420 functioning government which we don't and a in a criminal justice system that was somewhat like

01:24:48.220 clear and effective like for example if it's you're tried by a jury of your peers with like indisputable

01:24:52.780 video evidence and you admit that you murder somebody i think you should receive the death penalty

01:24:56.620 right but there's like a really murky case right now in oklahoma where a guy's on death row and blake would

01:25:02.620 even agree like it's the weirdest case where it's like did he pay for the guy to be killed and he

01:25:06.620 hasn't admitted to it and it's been like a mistrial and it has to keep on getting delayed so let's say

01:25:11.580 we kill the guy and we find out like 10 years later like that that i think is one of the great evils

01:25:16.380 that government can do is murdering an innocent man and that happens a lot by the way a lot more

01:25:21.660 hundreds of times over the last couple decades so morally i could if i believed in the bible there's

01:25:26.780 no way i could possibly say i don't believe in the death penalty the death it is it is ridiculously clear

01:25:32.780 but jack i'm curious because you're super catholic the catholic church is against the death penalty

01:25:37.820 like forcefully against the death penalty it's catholic social teaching we we have we have a

01:25:43.180 current pope who has introduced no no no no jack that's not doctrine yes or the pope it's 100

01:25:49.020 true before the pope it was advocacy within the catholic look look charlie the catholic church

01:25:54.220 has a lot of history involving the death penalty and if you want to go full-on 2000 years i think the

01:25:59.420 catholic church is pretty clear that it has exercised and been for the death penalty for many many times

01:26:05.260 in the past this is a new teaching which has arisen in the very john paul ii was against it right that's

01:26:12.060 what i'm saying the last like say 30 30 years i'm saying i'm saying 2 000 years but he didn't change

01:26:17.500 doctrine okay john paul ii didn't change doctrine he issued encyclicals on the death penalty which he was he

01:26:23.260 said he was against it but he where he said he was against it based basically on the same things

01:26:27.100 that you were just talking about but it was pope francis that has been moving to actually change

01:26:31.180 doctrine on this uh this is also something that's been that if you go back just two or three more

01:26:36.700 popes you would get the exact opposite on that and this is why this is in the it's in the catechism

01:26:42.140 though and this is what what francis has done okay so that's under francis so no pope has touched

01:26:48.460 this prior to that and you can go back to pope leo you can go back to pope pious uh where they

01:26:52.380 were very forcefully for the death penalty based on the reasoning that uh it is the state meeting

01:26:59.180 out your punishment for you essentially abrogating your own right to life so the state does not take

01:27:05.580 away your right to life you through dint of your own actions at depriving another of their right to

01:27:11.420 enjoyment of life have lost getting a little philosophical there but yes it is clearly something

01:27:16.220 that has arisen in the later church the modern church which is something that you know that i've

01:27:21.260 spoken out of course i'm just curious blake your pro-death penalty enthusiastically and i personally

01:27:27.020 am proud i go up and down you're pro-capital punishment oh yeah yeah okay oh yeah i you know i think

01:27:33.260 basically jack's summary is correct which is historically the church was tolerant of it and it is a

01:27:40.220 relatively recent shift to being like strongly against it uh and it's always been the standard

01:27:47.900 like you can't pursue that you can't do it for vengeance based reasons but there is a valid

01:27:54.860 justification for the state to do it just as the state has justification for punishing other crimes you

01:27:59.980 know as as christians were told to turn the other cheek and love our enemies and all of that but we've

01:28:04.860 never equated that with like the government for example is not allowed to punish criminals that

01:28:09.500 like all of society must collectively an administration of justice exactly it's temporal justice versus

01:28:15.420 eternal and judgment i think in many other contexts you know we tolerate this which is you know when we

01:28:20.940 wage a war as long as the war is just like we do accept that warfare kills innocent people and even

01:28:27.820 things like you know when the police try to use you know sometimes police use their guns to stop a

01:28:33.820 criminal in the act or someone who's acting dangerously and that kills by standards there

01:28:39.020 are all sorts of things that we do that on the margins uh can hurt innocent people and sometimes

01:28:44.300 even kill innocent people and i think it's strange that we treat the death penalty as the exception to

01:28:50.780 this especially when there are plenty of cases where the risk of anyone innocent being caught in it are

01:28:57.100 extremely low like why can't you kill dylan roof i think like the like the the middle ground is okay

01:29:03.500 you're a school shooter and you obviously did it capital punishment 10 weeks quick public parkland

01:29:09.180 parkland shooter it's you know the south carolina right any one of these matt like that neither of

01:29:15.100 them got it though is the point no i i i think that i would be more than willing to to sign on to that

01:29:20.620 where i'm can 100 and i looked it up 190 people have been wrongly executed in the last 30 years

01:29:26.060 it's these murky one-off like dna cases with no admission of guilt 109 i'd be very skeptical of that

01:29:32.220 figure yeah we're i mean that's better not be for innocent people shot by no it's not it's from

01:29:37.020 it is from it is from a place that is sympathetic against the capital punishment let's pretend it's

01:29:40.860 half okay 80. that still makes me take pause the the government the government wrongly executing

01:29:46.380 people can impact any every single one of us that that that that is a that's a serious thing i mean

01:29:50.700 you look at what the way that's by definition it's irreversible right you look at the way they've

01:29:53.740 treated gen six defendants no that that's the point though no i get what you're saying yeah that's true

01:29:57.980 it's it is irreversible but so is again if the police use force and just accidentally kill

01:30:03.900 someone or like when we use when we let police do car chases sometimes they'll kill people in car

01:30:09.260 accidents different things those are irreversible those are moments of frenetic unpredictability

01:30:14.060 the death penalty is a planned and an intentional and methodical decision right like police using

01:30:19.900 force you have a gun being thrown at you is it a knife is it not like it's high passion high you know

01:30:24.540 high adrenaline you could say we could say that's so dangerous that we just police are disarmed

01:30:29.020 police can't carry i'm not making that argument well i think well i think what blake is saying

01:30:32.460 though is liberals will make our use of force and so that it's government use of force so in that

01:30:37.340 instance would you be okay with that police officer facing charges if they killed somebody well but if

01:30:41.500 they murdered the person not he's saying if they killed them in the any furtherance of their duties

01:30:46.380 for their under their duties no i mean if it's not i mean no of course not i mean if it it depends on

01:30:51.260 is it murder is it self-defense but what if it was an innocent bystander and was it again was it

01:30:56.460 was it the context matters show me an example right like like like six-year-old girl gets caught

01:31:00.620 in a crossfire gets in a crossfire no that no of course not but would you charge the officer no of

01:31:05.180 course not no because the the intention matters a lot that's the way our criminal system is built

01:31:09.580 and that's my point it's a fun argument we should probably yeah yeah no it's it's no but i mean

01:31:13.180 we could do a whole show on this but if a police officer pulled his car over and shot a six-year-old

01:31:17.580 then yeah the police officer should get the death penalty right like that's that's the way that a

01:31:21.660 functioning well right but then it comes down to the government the legitimate use of government

01:31:26.220 force no the question is what kind of force and in what context are you happy with it if it's by a

01:31:31.180 jury of your peers methodically done and it's basically irrefutable school shooter admission

01:31:36.620 of guilt then the threshold i think can be understandably reached where it's like okay

01:31:41.420 kill the guy i just want to know i just want to know why the boston bomber is still breathing it's a

01:31:45.100 little bit in the weeds sorry okay let's try to get to a couple more so i just wanted to quickly

01:31:50.300 thank you charlie for uh just starting turning point i'm extremely grateful to be a part of this

01:31:56.220 organization i'm sure everybody else here is um so my question i had write it down because i didn't want

01:32:02.140 to forget um so given the polarization that we continue to see in this country i'm curious if you

01:32:07.100 have considered a discussion with someone who's reasonable on the left um there's a political

01:32:12.220 commentator has been on lex friedman and tim pool he's called destiny yeah i've heard about him and

01:32:17.500 i was just wondering if you were had ever thought about having a discussion just not even really a

01:32:22.220 debate but a discussion with someone you've talked to him haven't you john i i have a couple times

01:32:25.980 yeah i've done a few um i guess you would say forums they're called uh better discourse events

01:32:31.820 and destiny no look for as as as uh as much as people get on the right get upset at destiny i've

01:32:38.460 always said that i think it's great that destiny is willing to sit down and have those discussions

01:32:43.900 uh he and i have gone to blows we got into it over the intelligence community once a couple years ago

01:32:49.580 we got into it over the hunter biden laptop a couple just a couple months ago which where i totally

01:32:54.380 schooled him and but no i've always appreciated that he's been willing as a guy nominally on the left

01:33:02.300 to just sit down because there's so many people who refuse to do anything like that anymore

01:33:07.340 i'd be happy to talk to him i mean i've i've debated sam cedar to hassan piker to uh vish

01:33:13.180 what's his name vosh vows yeah whatever uh so i mean i'll debate almost anyone anytime in good

01:33:18.940 faith and i've done it before i'll do it again but charlie who would you box that's what we really

01:33:22.300 want to know yeah who would you box on the left probably all of them hassan would be tough hassan

01:33:27.820 no hassan is sam hyde he's what hassan is going up against sam hyde sam hyde called him out

01:33:32.620 oh is that right i don't know i'm not much i'm not much of a boxing type so all right next one thank

01:33:38.620 you hi my name is leo kennett i'm from the wonderful state of iowa thank you very much charlie

01:33:46.060 thank you oh the corn farmer i am destroying your economy yes he's been lying in wait so at my school

01:33:54.620 um we have some very liberal teachers um one of them i wore a let's go brandon sweater with trump

01:34:00.540 and it was like a christmas sweater so he's wearing a like a christmas hat anyways um my

01:34:05.820 spanish teacher pulled me out of class and said this is very disrespectful if you ever wear this

01:34:10.700 again that's a detention and she actually kicked me out of spanish for that so i don't know why um

01:34:17.420 luckily i didn't have to deal with her anymore um but i also had another teacher um that you know i was

01:34:23.020 asking hey would you like to sponsor our turning point club she was like hell no i hate governor reynolds

01:34:29.900 no and i just want to get your position on um should teachers be allowed to discuss their um point

01:34:37.340 of politics and whether if they're liberal or conservative james you've done a lot of research

01:34:42.060 on this i mean they very clearly discuss their politics this is a position that is formally known

01:34:48.700 as liberating tolerance which is a big word salad phrase that means that their policies aren't

01:34:55.340 considered politics and yours are and politics aren't allowed under that weird definition um kind

01:35:00.620 of like their people are considered people and yours aren't um under their weird definition they're

01:35:05.500 they're just pushing respect james yeah yeah i buy that for sure um i think we actually kind of talked

01:35:13.260 about this a little bit earlier was that you know like blake said that everybody should be treated

01:35:19.340 ideally everybody should be treated equally what we see happening is obviously that that's not happening

01:35:24.060 that the teachers believe that they are just teaching respect and that you are representing

01:35:30.140 hate and so this is a very challenging space to be in and you are in fact uh disenfranchised in your own

01:35:36.940 great state of iowa by the way iowa is one of the few states that i got yelled at and jeered at

01:35:41.820 when i visited so i know you have some very liberal uh professionals in your state and um i sympathize

01:35:48.700 with you for that but what you actually what you have to do is you have to understand that there is a

01:35:53.820 bias here and every time they exercise this bias on you it becomes an opportunity to point out

01:36:00.300 you're exercising bias against me that's the thing you say that you're against they don't care about

01:36:05.100 the hypocrisy but other people will other people will start to realize if you talk about it enough

01:36:11.020 that's you know obviously biased that's not fair uh a friend of mine his name is chris elston he goes

01:36:16.860 by billboard chris you may have seen him on social media where signs that say things like

01:36:20.460 very controversial statements like children cannot consent to puberty blockers and he goes out in the

01:36:24.780 streets and the left gets very upset with him for this in canada they've actually physically

01:36:29.900 assaulted him they broke his arm one time the cops will tend to watch and laugh or turn and pretend they

01:36:35.420 didn't see anything and ignore so he has this exact same thing and if he gets put to it and asks why

01:36:40.620 aren't you doing anything they'll say your sign is provoking violence and so this is the environment

01:36:46.700 unfortunately luckily it's better in the us but this is the environment that we live in and chris i

01:36:51.900 would urge you to go check him out it's billboard chris on social media um you can find him pretty

01:36:57.100 easily he's very very good at handling this and channeling when that happens into productive action that

01:37:02.700 gets people's attention uh whether it's locally or more broadly right and i suggest you do that all

01:37:07.900 right thank you man we'll try to get to just a couple more let's blitz through these and then we're

01:37:11.260 already over time so i'm from turning point unl where the nebraska corn huskers sorry charlie corn

01:37:17.900 um i just wanted to see your guys's thoughts on the current federal reserve system and the u.s

01:37:23.420 monetary policy as a whole yeah i mean i think the fed should be abolished uh and it never should have

01:37:28.140 been created it's an unconstitutional um andrew jackson was right huh andrew jackson was right

01:37:34.300 andrew jackson's right ron paul was right it's an unconstitutional thing there every one of you are poor

01:37:39.580 day by day before you even get in the ball game because of a cartel of criminals that are running

01:37:44.300 our currency system it's an illegally chartered i believe unconstitutional project i can go in and

01:37:49.820 into it it's not going to happen so you have to take you have to take authority and responsibility

01:37:54.780 for your own money and that means you know i personally invest in stable things that actually

01:38:01.020 appreciate uh in value and try to get rid of my dollar bills as quickly as possible into things that

01:38:05.980 are actually hopefully going to last um like bullets and land and gold and silver and the right

01:38:10.940 the proper cryptocurrencies i'm not here to give you investment advice you guys can disagree and then

01:38:15.020 buying stock certificates and companies that i think are actually going to last long term so look

01:38:19.740 the fed should be abolished isn't it amazing that that our audience applauds when you say you're

01:38:24.620 going to abolish the fed that's how enlightened our students are the fed has made every one of you 90

01:38:29.980 poorer than you should be over the last 50 years are we going to get to talk about the titanic now

01:38:35.500 we we already you know you see it all began in 1913

01:38:42.860 jp morgan planned the whole thing jp morgan put that iceberg there

01:38:48.700 thank you let's get the next question jackal island baby all right uh my name is colin that's with two l's

01:38:54.220 uh i'm also from nebraska so i am a corn husker of art everyone charlie's taking it on the chin no i'm

01:39:00.620 not i just bully charlie fully him fully him this is a kind of a you'll be happier this is kind of a

01:39:07.980 fun question but it's all four of you but i assume all of you guys work out i'm just curious uh how much

01:39:13.820 do you guys bench blake you first no i'm going last okay i know james can bench more than i can can

01:39:23.740 can i i don't know we should find out we could do it a long time i don't know i haven't done

01:39:28.780 i obviously haven't done a flat bench in a while i've mostly been focusing on on yeah on incline lately

01:39:33.500 um because i think you get i think you get back faster gains caught with an incline bench so i

01:39:38.620 wouldn't even be able to tell you what my one rm is right now for what's your three rep max on

01:39:42.940 incline on the incline through it i haven't maxed out in forever i mean i'm i know right no i know

01:39:49.740 i know no just being honest i'm just being honest okay guys i know my guys all get weird okay i can

01:39:54.460 do i haven't done a one rep max i can do 230 times five is a bench press that's impressive i can't do

01:40:01.820 that no i'm like you go all right all right wow yeah less than that like 225 three or four times so

01:40:12.460 if you if you haven't been like 15 years my lifetime i'll put it this way and this is what i've always

01:40:17.740 stuck to my father always taught me this is you should be able to bend your body weight you should

01:40:22.540 be able to bench your body weight and i've always been able to my entire life there you go thank you

01:40:27.980 which was pretty impressive during that the more important question is how many pull-ups

01:40:31.740 pull-ups are the true i know right and yeah i can do 10 pull-ups and i weigh 225 so that's a lot to pull

01:40:38.620 up there you go and blake is single so um by the way no he is blake is single he has an iq of 183

01:40:46.300 he speaks four different languages and can bench 235 times five times five times and that beard

01:40:53.420 folks that beard bully blake yeah he's on he's on he's on only farm he's on farmers only for my

01:41:01.820 only corn and he only eats corn he's a corn husker too yes all right all right one or two one or two

01:41:07.980 more my name is matt uh i'm from iowa state university where we have better corn than the huskers and the

01:41:14.060 hawkeyes uh-oh uh-oh um yeah you might have to sign me up to be a teacher for that uh school of

01:41:20.860 bullying james um yeah charlie loves that but anyway my dream is to eventually own a unwoke sports

01:41:30.220 broadcasting company to dethrone espn as the worldwide leader in sports charlie you over the last 11 years

01:41:38.460 have experience building a company from nothing to all of this what are how do you go from the ground

01:41:48.380 up to this that's that's a great question uh first you have to dominate something small so if you want

01:41:55.900 to create something really big you have to dominate either a locality a genre or a niche every successful

01:42:02.220 company was able to be very successful first at something very specific right whether it be apple

01:42:09.500 or microsoft starbucks home depot the the the big thing you see is not what started like with turning

01:42:16.140 point we have tpsfa turning point academy turning point production turning point media you know professor

01:42:20.540 watch list school board watch list high school chapters college chapters turning point action

01:42:23.820 precinct committee project turning point pack charlie kirk show thought crimes started with one thing

01:42:28.140 i drove to college campus after college campus begging kids not to become commies and i got good

01:42:34.540 at it right and had no money no connections no idea what i was doing but i had a ton of energy but i was

01:42:40.060 focused on one thing and then i was like okay in order to do that one thing then i need to get you know

01:42:44.620 good at raising money and built a small team but so if you if you have a big vision you have to just think

01:42:50.460 really really small and be and then once you have that small thing and you dominate then you can start

01:42:55.580 to scale right when people say they want to start a national business i say first why don't you

01:43:00.620 become the number one pretzel shop or coffee shop in your city like win your city first and then you

01:43:08.300 can open up a store across town and then across the state then you can go regional that's exactly

01:43:13.260 what starbucks did starbucks started as one coffee shop in downtown seattle chipotle started as one

01:43:18.460 restaurant in downtown denver right mcdonald started as one restaurant by ray crock in suburban chicago

01:43:24.700 and so people think you want to have that kind of big you know vision that big thing but you

01:43:30.060 want to start there then you have to want it more than your competition and then when your back's

01:43:33.820 against the wall and you want to give up you're going to have to want to continue because it will

01:43:37.580 happen um and expect to lose most of your friends get sued um make no money for five to six years

01:43:44.060 sleep five hours a night for almost every single night lose all of your savings for just a chance to

01:43:50.460 maybe be moderately successful all right thank you remember the uh last bible verse that we talked

01:43:56.620 about when we got off the plane in san diego charlie what we were talking about which one was it which

01:44:01.020 which oh uh you asked me what my favorite part of the bible is no i don't remember what you said the

01:44:05.100 parable of the talents yes that's exactly right he gave you the modern version the parent the parable

01:44:10.460 of the talents is uh equally applicable do do what do what will you do with what god has given you okay

01:44:16.380 this will be the last question wow uh don't worry i care more care more about conservatism and then

01:44:24.140 corn so you're good with me a lot of serving got a lot of corn apologists here my name is gabe i'm

01:44:30.380 from kentucky uh sadly i don't really have a big question but i would like you to maybe weigh in on

01:44:35.500 what i have to say uh so i'm going to go back to what you were talking about way earlier in the program

01:44:41.420 about the administrative uh state and our institutions that are turning against us like

01:44:46.380 the fbi cia the list goes on of course um and i go back to our founders what they had to say about

01:44:52.540 it in the declaration of independence grievance number 10 against the king of course was he erected

01:44:56.700 a multitude of offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their

01:45:01.260 substance is there anything that you guys would like to add to that and i want to say i really love

01:45:05.900 you and you guys are such inspiration so all of us the young lady behind you will get the final

01:45:11.420 question because you didn't have a question because but i will answer whatever it was james you have a

01:45:14.780 comment on that anybody have a comment on on that jack i think we we when we teach the declaration we um

01:45:21.340 and look you know and i i work for humanevents.com and right there when in the course of human events

01:45:25.900 but i think we take we teach the declaration and we skip over the grievances and i think we need to

01:45:32.140 teach those as well i'll just say all this equity crap came up in the administrative state apparatus

01:45:37.900 i mean if you follow it there's a book written by this weird game with a guy with a weird name dwight

01:45:41.980 waldo in 1948 and there are five maybe one or the other and it's called the administrative state you can

01:45:48.460 look it up and see what they thought about it and he hosted this huge conference and it's called the

01:45:52.220 minnow brook conference in 1968 they held the minnow brook conference and a guy named george frederickson

01:45:57.100 was there and they laid out the idea that um it's not enough for public administration to be thinking

01:46:02.780 about the two e's of efficiency and economy they also need to think of the third e which is equity

01:46:09.500 which is adjusting shares so citizens are made equal so if you want to know why our society is

01:46:13.740 lurching into communism the administrative state has an awful lot to do with that so i applaud you for

01:46:18.940 bringing that up tonight cool all right you have a question though my friend i do all right you're the

01:46:24.460 last question then my name is delaney i'm from uh capitol university we're about 15 minutes away

01:46:29.980 from osu um i volunteered at the live free tour um i had a question this was well it kind of has a

01:46:38.140 background to it but um my school has a professor named clint jones and he is an ethics professor

01:46:44.780 we're technically a luthan university but we're very much not and he's in the department of religion

01:46:50.220 and philosophy um and early january he put on this um presentation about love thy neighbor as thyself

01:46:59.820 masturbation homoeroticism and queer love in the life of jesus christ i'm sorry that was really

01:47:05.420 like off the wall but um sorry i did not see that coming yeah no i'm so sorry i was like prepping the

01:47:11.660 people behind me in front of me in line i was like prepping everyone in line i was like i'm so

01:47:16.300 sorry um but charlie earlier today you were talking about um how you don't believe in really like

01:47:23.500 choosing your battles which i really do respect um do you think that with a professor like this who is

01:47:29.180 so confident in his beliefs that he's willing to put a presentation on and force his students to go

01:47:35.500 my roommate had to go unless she would want a failing grade in her class she didn't go um but

01:47:41.420 her alternative assignment was to write a seven page paper about why jesus was gay so didn't really

01:47:46.060 work out either way um but do you believe that finding a professor who is so confident in his beliefs

01:47:52.940 will like reap any benefits or is he just going to get more i mean he backed it up with scripture

01:47:57.900 which is obviously flawed but yeah i mean what what's what what scripture is he what is he i didn't go he

01:48:03.820 says jesus is gay that's that's his scripture yeah he how about how about the leviticus verse of thou

01:48:09.420 shall not lay with another man like i have no idea and by the way punishable by death in the old

01:48:16.220 testament um so that's that's really rich um so what he's saying so the i'm happy to dive in the theology

01:48:24.060 of it which is not your question but what should you do basically here here's what i would here's my

01:48:29.340 my encouragement right is that try to find somebody i mean if i have time i'll do it but

01:48:34.380 try to find somebody to challenge these people they never want to debate and james will tell you why

01:48:38.380 they want to groom and they want to find people that can't intellectually defend their positions

01:48:43.580 you know i i spoke at arizona state university with dennis prager and 35 professors signed an open

01:48:49.100 letter saying that i should not be allowed on campus none of them wanted to talk to me none of

01:48:53.820 they refuse to ever have dialogue with us because it is a threat to them james why is that why don't

01:48:59.740 they want to debate you yes well i mean there's the easy answers because they don't um believe they

01:49:04.540 know that their ideas don't have justification so they have to have to assert them and if they're

01:49:09.100 challenged it threatens them blah blah blah but within their own kind of line of thought the reason is

01:49:13.580 that to debate somebody is to platform the other alternative and thus to give it voice and thus to become

01:49:17.980 complicit in the evil but uh that's less much less interesting to me than i think what you should

01:49:23.980 do these things actually tend to work out but you have to to have a little bit of courage um these

01:49:29.020 are the kinds of stories that if they are properly packaged and put out into the world go viral big

01:49:33.900 time these are the kinds of stories that end up landing in an appellate court and getting a school

01:49:38.460 in an awful lot of trouble because first amendment rights protect people from being subjected to

01:49:43.100 having to write what they would consider blasphemy um this has happened at least as when it's a

01:49:48.860 condition of employment i know with professors uh for example the case of merriweather versus shawnee state

01:49:54.140 but uh it's entirely possible that it could follow for a student who had to do this for a grade

01:50:00.860 so i would encourage people and i know you're young and i know this isn't exactly something you

01:50:04.700 want to hear and it does take a lot of courage it's not easy but in cases like this you have to be kind of

01:50:09.580 willing not to go necessarily full james o'keefe but to expose these things to get that citizen

01:50:14.700 journalism out and or and i say that very much with the slash there because it might be both and it

01:50:20.300 might not you may have to be more prudent in how you approach it you may have to start thinking this

01:50:25.020 is the bravery part by the way it's not hard to convince a 20 something year old to try to go viral

01:50:29.180 on the internet it is hard to convince them to be think of themselves as a potential plaintiff

01:50:33.820 in a lawsuit and to seek out a law firm like you know alliance defending freedom or whatever and

01:50:39.820 try to see if you have a legal case or if your friend has a legal case for what they were put

01:50:43.980 through being forced to do this for a grade and to be willing to do this if people aren't injured

01:50:48.300 there's no lawsuit but the way that we're ultimately going to beat woke and preserve our society

01:50:52.860 is by suing while the law is still something that can be on our side so i strongly encourage you to

01:50:59.900 think if you think you're being discriminated against you may have to think that you have

01:51:04.700 a lawsuit potential and reach out to some of these firms that are they often show up at these

01:51:09.500 conservative things so you can kind of figure out who they are and see if they will take a case if

01:51:14.060 you're a student probably pro bono reach out to fire the foundation for individual rights and education

01:51:19.260 see what they do there they will send letters and the schools will back off and sometimes do damages

01:51:24.380 or try to settle out of court or all kinds of things but if you don't slap them the left

01:51:28.460 consistently will break the law until you tell them they can't anymore and they will get away

01:51:34.460 with it and get away with it and get away with it and just keep marching forward so somebody who's

01:51:38.140 being discriminated against and it might be you and it's a big thing to ask so think about it has to

01:51:45.500 be willing to take up the lawsuit and i strongly encourage people to be willing to consider that

01:51:51.260 when they are being uh discriminated against or something like this what i would say just briefly is

01:51:57.020 also it is it is high stakes there there is possible consequences to it but at the same time

01:52:03.260 it is lower than the consequences to standing up to something will often be in real life

01:52:07.420 like this person is threatening people with you know a failing grade uh one of many classes they can

01:52:13.820 possibly take at this school whereas you know you'll face people who will boss you around and try to

01:52:19.820 do bad stuff where you have to face losing your job and you might have a spouse you might have children

01:52:24.700 like you have a lot to lose and it probably is better to at least get the training in standing

01:52:31.180 up to things while it is lower stakes and that is what college actually is even though it feels

01:52:36.940 very high stakes a lot of the time it is it is a training ground for life yes when charlie was

01:52:41.900 speaking earlier i thought there are basically two paths and you have to judge your temperament either

01:52:46.700 you consistently stand up like he all urged you to do very very well very well as a matter of fact

01:52:52.620 and you you do it that way or you realize we're going to need investigative journalists that are

01:52:58.060 digging in and understanding this thing we're going to need lawyers who understand the left's misuses of

01:53:02.460 the law and abuses of the law so they can make sure that constitutional law protects us from those and so

01:53:07.020 you go in as kind of an upside down investigator um if you participate though in order to not get

01:53:14.060 brainwashed you have to be studying the brainwashing that they're doing and using it for some other

01:53:18.060 purpose to expose them or defeat them later so always think about that if you're going to take

01:53:22.620 the kind of uh fight road then fight and fight with everything you have teddy roosevelt said if it's

01:53:28.380 gentlemanly possible not to hit then you should not hit but if you must hit never hit soft and you

01:53:33.660 should keep that in mind it's my second favorite presidential quote on the other hand if you get

01:53:38.620 inside you go all the way and you expose them sorry charlie no you're good you got another point

01:53:45.260 i'm out of points unless you want to hear my first favorite jack any closing thoughts

01:53:48.940 i just want to say thanks to everybody for coming out tonight appreciate this making this one of i

01:53:53.100 think our number one episode of thought crime that we have held so far it's also our very first

01:53:58.140 live episode so i'd like to say thank you to our first ever live select live audience

01:54:05.180 this has been awesome thank you to charlie for setting it up download the public square app

01:54:09.740 and download the rumble app we'll see you tomorrow james lindsey and i are going to be on stage at

01:54:13.900 the chapter leadership summit tomorrow we'll be taking questions talking queer theory wokeism

01:54:19.020 the need to stand crt all that good stuff god bless you guys see you at home later and see you guys

01:54:24.940 tomorrow here at the chapter leadership summit thank you guys

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 15, 2023

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