THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 5 — Andrew Tate: Prophet or Pimp? Mid Margot Robbie? DeSantis Snubs TPA?
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Summary
In this episode, Jack and Jack are joined by special guest and friend of the show, James Lindsey, to discuss a variety of topics, including: What's the deal with Andrew Tate? Is he a Christian? What does he think about the homeschooling industry? Why does he hate the science? How does he feel about homeschoolers? And what is the difference between a Christian homeschooler and a homeschool apologist?
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from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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our live studio audience here from our turning point usa chapter leadership summit yet please
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clap as jeb would say thought crime live thought crime live we have the uh jeb bush uh energy going
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on here jack posobik please clap please clap i don't know why jeb is fauci but jeb is fauci now
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speaking of jeb bush energy i just had i was looking at my phone because i had to block uh
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doug bergam messages do this twenty dollar giveaway is that all about have you guys seen this where
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doug bergam is saying if you give a dollar you get a twenty dollar gift card wasn't this because
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vivek is doing like um you get ten percent if you're in like a certain club or something right it's like
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a membership club i don't know how it's legal in campaign finance to bribe people to be able to
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become small dollar donors none of these people will remember but the best way to do this was just
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what george w bush did where if you raise a hundred thousand dollars he just calls you a maverick or
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whatever oh yeah yeah like different titles no no mccain was the maverick but you got the stupid
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title if you donated to w bush it gave you stupid cowboy things like you were in a western so close
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i want to introduce james lindsey the great james lindsey everybody he has his uh okay groomer t-shirt
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okay welcome james thank you charlie so we're gonna have some fun here and we have some topics now
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this show is a little bit different than the traditional charlie kirk show uh which thank you
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guys for all subscribing we'll be announcing our people soon uh this show jack and i co-host it
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every week on rumble all of you should download the rumble app by the way if you haven't already
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and we talk about topics that jake jack how would we say this are not always discussed
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well it's it's sort of like you know we each do news shows basically on political shows every day of
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the week and there's always certain topics that aren't necessarily in the news cycle or topics by the
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way that may be in the news cycle but you can really only talk about them on rumble because
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they are inherently thought crimes they are thought like uh so what have we done so far we've done fire
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alarms we've done fire alarms right well smoke detectors well the yeah the smoke detector the idea
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that um a certain segment of the population like joy reed say who are idiots have no ability to
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actually change yes the battery we've also done bonus holes we've done glory holes we've done the
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bonus holes we've done the glory holes every week gives us a new hole that charlie's not familiar
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i'm the most i'm like i'm the home i'm the representative of the homeschool audience right i i don't know
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any right i don't know any of this people thought that this was like charlie doing a bit and i'm
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sitting there like no charlie really doesn't know what i'm talking about the whole the homeschool to
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whole school pipeline you want to learn a new homeschool to whole school okay um this is the
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opposite of leviticus this is the opposite it is definitely the opposite of the levitical purity
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laws do you want to learn a new word i would love a new word james universal vagina what is what is
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that what do you think it is it's like a universal remote maybe well everybody has one
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it's like opinions everybody has one oh okay so that's a that's a woke term is that is that right
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that's a trans activism term yeah the universal vagina you're starting to get an idea
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always from and i will say we always try to bring it back to virtue and back to goodness and i'm just
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over here trying to get you to respect the science charlie yeah and and to trust the science our first
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topic today though we try to keep it somewhat structure else we'll never get anything done here
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our first topic is andrew tate i'm curious for what is your opinion on andrew tate positive
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raise your hand if it's positive okay raise your hand if it's negative okay it's about 50 50 pretty
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split crowd i'm not an apologist for andrew tate this is how out of touch i am with this stuff because
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i'm too busy actually studying things that matter what did i say in the group group chat two or three
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days ago jack who is andrew you said who's andrew i didn't say it that bluntly i said i don't what is
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the deal yeah you said uh you said i heard about this guy but you didn't know what he was about
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and you didn't know why he you know he was so popular and and so much being shared to the point
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where in at least one point of 2022 he was the most googled man in the entire world at least according
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to andrew tate yes and so you know i i recently caught a little bit of his discussion with patrick
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david like a couple minutes but then when tucker sat down with him i said okay i'm gonna try to
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figure out what he's all about so understand andrew tate is accused of sex trafficking and he pretty
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much framed it in a rather deceiving way would you say that's fair blake with tucker yeah yeah he's very
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much about like really i'm just al capone i'm indicted for tax stuff really yeah i mean so but then also
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he's also accused of rape he didn't mention that with tucker however i will say this and i want to
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discuss this being a first time viewer and consumer of andrew tate and the other thing is he allegedly
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ran a cam girl business is that allegedly or that's legit no he's his website is like i got rich running
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a cam girl business that i find reprehensible but the point putting that and you could factor it however
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you want how important that is not listening to him with tucker for an hour and a half two hours i
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finally it clicked okay now i see why he's popular he's very smart he knows what he's doing and jack as you
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said he's kind of playing a part of alpha male perfect posture kickboxer and he is hitting on
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something that you're not allowed to say where there's a lot of truth to it well charlie it's it's
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similar to what you talk about all the time this sort of we we've become a society of the men without
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chests uh we we we raise boys to be meek and timid and listen to the consensus and seek uh the committee
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assignment rather than to be bold strong and assertive and then along comes a guy like tate who
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says i'm going to break all the rules and i'm going to make money and i'm going to be
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lots of women yeah yeah yeah god is god is not happy with the discussion tonight but um but that's
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all right because we're all prayer warriors up here well at least two of us and uh and we can talk
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about that later too then then it it it gets into this it's it's essentially filling a niche right
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it's a niche that society doesn't have and yet at the same time for a lot of young predominantly men
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uh it's someone for them to look to glom on to saying this is a path forward that doesn't
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pertain to all the insanity that we see going on whether it be in disney whether it be in schools
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etc so i want to how many of you knew about andrew tate like a year ago how many raise your hand okay
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wow that that i mean so you got how many of you are on tiktok regularly raise your hand okay so they
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must have found him on some other platform no judgment what other platform was he popular well
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he was really good at he basically he took viral celebrity status and like turned it into a multi-level
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marketing thing so you would gain status in like the andrew tate cult for lack of a better term by
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sharing his video clips so it wouldn't even be that he had one account that he would share stuff on
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it would be that 10 000 accounts were all sharing andrew tate clips so but then okay so but does it
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does it then reach the threshold he had virality beyond imagination talking about what exactly that
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men need to be men men need to learn how to say no take responsibility but then james he got canceled
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from the internet in a way that only alex jones and donald trump have before which was multi-institutional
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multi-company multi-government de-platforming instantaneously why do you think that was
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i mean i think you guys tapped on it he's talking about things you're not allowed to talk about when
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you have that level of notoriety that level of reach um and i say this is not only a non-andrew
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tate fan personally but uh somebody who is very much like who is andrew tate yeah that's kind of my
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attitude but um like i somebody talked about him you know it got big last year and i was like
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is he that guy that said that stuff about covid that nobody was allowed to say is that why he's
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famous who is he and he's like oh he's a kickboxer i don't know who this is but no he was big on there
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were some covid time yeah didn't he have like a viral video about it he had a viral video on covid
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um he also got big in crypto because he actually accurately predicted the bottom of
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of uh bitcoin bought in when everybody else was getting out made a ton of money on that uh with
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covid always was extremely outspoken and then when he got um you know he was diagnosed with covid he
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caught it he then posted a video the next day of doing like a hundred push-ups you know having this
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huge response to it etc etc no so he's like the perfect character though this is really actually
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important charlie your question gets right to it so you have somebody who's saying important truths
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who's obviously controversial who's obviously also in certain ways crossing lines and i don't mean
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transgressing lines not saying taboo things and that makes your perfect alex jones test case
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that's why when alex jones got kicked off social media everybody was like yeah finally he's crazy
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he's saying crazy stuff and we all started to celebrate our demise so this is the way that they
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build the case to start de-platforming people is they take a controversial edge case where some
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people are like oh yeah he's got to go he's over the line and other people are like i think what
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he's saying is really important we've got to argue for it that is like bread and butter leftist
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dialectical warfare space right there because everybody's going to fight it's going to turn
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into a huge controversy that there's a controversy and then they're going to use that to point it and
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say you know well this is justified so many people say it that that's their game so blake can you comment
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what morally what has andrew tate done that is let's say less than virtuous well it does stand
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out to me that this is all happening in the same two-week period where like sound of freedom is the
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number one movie in america and it's all about human trafficking and like what he did do is he he would
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publish guides he would try to essentially recruit people to pay money to get his essentially like
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pickup artist type stuff i don't know if that's the right word for it but it's in that universe
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and he would get people to pay for this and he would literally brag like you know i am so good
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at this that i can talk to all these chicks and i can sleep with them really quickly and then i can
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get them to be in my cam girl business because they're all in love with me and 99 of women will
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do things that no one else's women will ever do for them because i'm super alpha and you know i
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whether he's fully telling the truth about that or not like objectively that's probably what most
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human trafficking actually looks like more so than like abducting eight-year-olds in like guatemala and
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selling them to pedophiles like there's a lot of this sort of stuff where you essentially like you get
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girlfriends and you get them to do things for you to make money that are not morally that good and he
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basically very publicly does that and you know whether he actually raped anyone or not which he
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says he didn't uh it seems indisputably true that he is essentially a digital pimp and you know as
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as conservatives i don't know that we're in favor of digital pimping as it were are we in favor of
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digital pimping i don't know you guys should tell me yeah i don't think so but i mean listening to him
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at length with tucker when he was starting to pinpoint the all out hit the framing of tate's
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argument can be summarized as you're being conquered even though you don't know it and the way you're
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being conquered is the slow slitting of the throat of your men that that his argument can be summarized
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as the west is being invaded from within with and you're it's it's happening through the lowering of
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testosterone rates the feminizing of your men and i think that's a super insightful and albeit
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like somewhat like quasi conspiratorial but i don't mean you mean that negatively because i actually
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believe it i think that's true but it's also true conspiratorial i mean lots of different factors have
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to come together it's true but it's i think in an era in an era we would regard as a better america and
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a more masculine america like andrew tate would probably be like run out of town on a rail as it were
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because of his behavior because of his common because of his behavior okay no that and i don't
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even i don't debate that i mean again i don't know enough about it my inherent gut instinct is when you
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get kicked off every social media site and indicted by a government i'm usually like okay you're probably
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a threat to the regime because like jeffrey epstein was allowed to traffic children in this town by the
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way for 30 years and he was allowed to be with the royal family and president of the united states
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and billionaires and so like people that are like on their moral high horse on andrew tate it's like
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slow down pal like when are you going to indict bill clinton for trafficking kids like he's been on
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those planes too like oh no it's different like no he's the president he's a kickboxer saying things
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that about men like you know they it's a selective enforcement of morality jack the word um if you look
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up jeffrey epstein on wikipedia right now the word pedophile does not appear even once on that article
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for epstein on epstein's article the word pedophile does not appear but if you pull up anybody who's
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on the right wing like like james o'keefe is a far right uh etc etc propagandist um the only place the
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word pedophile actually appears on jeffrey epstein's page is down in one of the footnotes because one of
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the articles that they sourced used the word in their url that's the only place it appears when we
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can oh wow and so i guess the tape thing yeah the tape thing is i now understand his virality whether
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he's going to go to prison or not in romania it's almost like he's begging them to put him in prison
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like he thinks he's going to get bigger he's some sort of like human trafficking martyr to do interviews
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while you're under active indictment about your charges it's a good way to kind of provoke the
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prosecution and let's remember it's in romania not exactly a country known for like fair due
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process and trials and its ability to represent any thought any final thoughts james on andrew
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tape before going to the next topic i mean i agree with that colonizer thing i think it's really
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important talk about that bill do you think that there's a slow invisible slitting of the throat of
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our men and andrew tate is making the argument that there's like an invisible force killing our men
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in slow motion it's not invisible it's called feminism the hell are you talking about
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i mean simone de bevoir lays this out in 1949 in the second sex i don't mean to get nerdy on your
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cool show but like oh we love we love nerdy the fact is the whole thing of that second sex she asked
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this famous question there's a famous statement she makes she says one is not born but becomes woman
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and then the whole argument is well michelle obama to grow into it it's the name of her book
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her book is becoming michelle yeah well is it not i thought there was i thought that may have been
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slightly come lately like that's not it's not literally becoming what was she before charlie
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she's always been michelle 100 yeah so you can get conspiracy theories on your wikipedia show
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um no i'm not the name of her book that's all i'm saying this is um this is on my wikipedia actually
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that i'm a i'm a conspiracy theorist and that in fact i called the pride flag the frog the flag of a
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hostile enemy uh that was a call that's what it is and then the progress flag with those triangles
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chatting it it's like a colonizer flag being colonized in real time the perpetual revolution
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flag love that but that's all digression simone de bevoir said you can either become a woman on the
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terms that patriarchy sets or we can figure out how to become a woman independent to those terms
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and that required murdering the patriarchy so this slow slitting of the throat of men that
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andrew tate's talking about is a hundred percent legitimate it's undermining western civilization
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it comes from feminism at its kind of very like mid 20th century forward heart there's no doubt that
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that's going on there's no doubt that the queer theory that erupted out of that is like i just
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mentioned a colonizing force colonizing western nations from within flying their flags on our
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government buildings flying their flags on famous streets flying their flags on everything
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this is he's completely right about that and that's something we should be taking very seriously
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and so if you wanted to take over the west instead of i don't know dropping a nuclear bomb
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or having like five million chinese you know go to to the border you know an amphibious invasion of
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china out of california wouldn't it be easier to just have your fighting age males kill themselves both
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literally and turn them into women and turn them into weak versions of their former yeah so where does
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that start we were talking earlier and you said kind of the essential function of the man is to be able
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to say no yeah so you start saying that the essential function of the man is toxic masculinity
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and all of a sudden they become completely nullified nullified you know from the latin nullum to to make
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into nothing or uh from the german alfhaven to which is the word that they use for marxists use for
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transformation of society sublation to a higher spiritual plane this is exactly what you would do is
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that you would you would undercut men through these memes like toxic you always say the left can't meme
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oh the left can meme toxic masculinity that's a meme trans women are women that's a meme it's not
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a little funny card on the internet but those things have been devastating absolutely devastating
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to men and women and reality throughout the west i mean how many of you feel as if there's an all-out
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war on men in america and multi-dimensional and the women everyone raises every hand is up i mean
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this is why tate is popular and because he does it in a super provocative way but also jack
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the aesthetic of tate is perfect posture well-built kickboxer like exactly you know that he's got
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that's a big part of it right he's he's uh he's you know he's what he's training shirtless he's you
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know he's going around um looking look talking the talk and look i don't have anything to hide and i'll
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just say it you know people say so every time you know tate comes up someone will come under their
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comments and be like hey jack what's this picture of you and tate together um i said it's a negative thing and
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so so yeah picture of tucker and tate together so yeah tate came to cpac i guess i don't know four
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or five years ago and i think we it was like me paul joseph watson a couple of people we got together
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for lunch on the sidelines then he came and this is back when trump tower was was trump tower and and
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charlie you remember that yep it was like people would come in they would come out it is what it is
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so you know they're they're going to say oh well look did you know about this did you know about
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that post so were you part of it i said look what i'm part of is exactly what james is saying what
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charlie's saying what blake is getting into this idea that we need to fight back for our children
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for the boys for the men out there and a lot of this starts that you know james you were saying before
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about how they they seek to subvert it at the earliest level when i first heard about some of these
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i always think of the anti-bullying programs right and for me and i think for most people
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you know gen x and and like elder millennial and up the anti-bullying program was fight back
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the anti-bullying program was punch them in the nose until it's bloody but then the anti-bullying
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program became go tell the teacher go tell the principal appeal to authority don't assert yourself
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don't stand up for yourself go look at was it charlie in um you know a christmas story right
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he finally beats the bully he beats scott farkas he is the one who's then able ralphie he is the one
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who's able to finally stand up for himself and this is his you know coming of age as part of the story
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well now what happens if you have an entire generation of men who never come of age yeah it's
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grown infants right it's the it's the peter pan lost boys that then run the generation and good
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intentions don't result into good you know things necessarily the intention of the bullying movement
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was wow kids are killing themselves and all this you know lowering of you know people's picture of
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themselves and then the only way you then can continue the anti-bullying movement is to have a
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whole society then reconfigured right you can't ever have offensive speech you can't ever have
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negative things said about you blake should we bring back bullying it does seem quite possible
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that all of the 80s bullies were essentially holding back all the neuroses that are now going
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to destroy western civilization like a that's a thought from and you know it's like you said it was all
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like oh we have to stop suicide and i mean suicide's not down no it's actually think about it the more
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we've actually gone after bullying we have the most suicides in the history of young people ever
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so it's not working i think there's something to be said for the idea that there needs to be a
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certain amount of stress in life and you could almost compare it to like weightlifting the way
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weightlifting makes you stronger is it actually stresses your muscles it tears them up and they
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are rebuilt to be stronger and it could be that you know social dynamics between young people it's
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stressful it's painful and it kind of just teaches you to not be a pussy and now just everyone's
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a pussy until they grow up and they finally just yeah i mean life is really hard and then here's
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what ends up happening is if you have a massive anti and i'm not defending bullying i think it's
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you know a reprehensible practice in person but i can say this i was made stronger by having to stand
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up to myself against some really cruel and awful people and i wouldn't be the person i was today
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if it was just a soft fragile environment where someone had to pick my fights for me at the time it
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was the worst thing ever and then you stand up to the demon you stand up to the person who thinks
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they're strong and then you reach a level you never thought you could because you're a lot stronger
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than you think yeah or you know another comparison could be like forest fires whereas remember when
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trump got in all that trouble during his term because he pointed out like actually you need
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some fires otherwise there's the big fire that burns everything down backburns so it could be the
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proper response to bullying is like it's bad but either stand up for yourself or get over it
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and you have to think of what's the function of the bully because what the bully is actually doing is
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and as as much as maybe we don't like the method what they're doing is enforcing a standard
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and so it's sort of a corollary of removing the bully is that we've also removed all standards at
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the same course from across the board it's also it's also fighting for status like it's a status anxiety
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thing and now you just get status by waging war through institutions here's the key though is we
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didn't get rid of bullies we now made our bullies teachers and we made bullies government agents and
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instead of now having the proper checks and balances to go against bullies which is strong
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people understanding you have to defend yourself in the wild we have now elevated people that have
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resentment towards the rest of the world and they turn them into groomers and so we've institutionalized
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the bullying against you the innocent james final thoughts on this we'll get to the next segment yeah
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listen so what we've done is that we've turned we've changed who the bullies are and made them
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invincible which is the worst possible recipe that you could have when you talk about i actually in
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a little in an odd place i think i'm the most pro-bullying person on the panel um with the
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possible exception of jack uh i think and it serves a very important function as a matter of what are you
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saying hey hey you know jack you and i met here on this stage i'm trying to have a moment with you you
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you mean you mean met in like you mean met in like the biblical sense or no we're on a stage dude
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calm down oh oh right right no that's later so you didn't say what kind of stage this stage
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well we are talking about angie tate so no yeah well we are that's true um so so no bullying i'm
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fairly pro-bullying actually in its context it does have to have breaks put on it it does have to be
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controlled it can get out of control and cause problems hospital not more but there are two things
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here that are both getting neutered in the process so one of the things is is how do you deal with
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the bully well you talk about how charlie you rose to the challenge and to change who you are you grew
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into who you are and it improved my life well male mentorship is meant to teach how to deal with that
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that's exactly and we're losing that because now it's it's not even a teacher you're supposed to
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tell me it's a trusted adult which means a groomer that's what they call groomers now is trusted
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adults go find a trusted adult they'll take you to the gsa after school
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love bomb you and next thing you know you're on hormones that actually makes me think of a
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thought crime charlie what happens if you have if you have fatherless households in various aspects
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of society that grow up without that masculine mentorship that never actually learn what positive
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masculinity what happens to those girls no it's the young boys oh well we know the girls they end up
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hooking up with a lot of dangerous adventurous men and are never able to have a stable relationship
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largely yes right they end up like going from man to man of like quasi or this is not even like a
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thought crime this or they become fatherless man or they become the man or they become the man but
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more they the most sexual young girls are people that do not have strong male figures right yeah that's
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just a fact um and so then but what happens to the young men without father figures is i mean that's
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i actually really haven't thought deeply about that what ends up happening well i mean i get
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they become super violent they become like lesser versions of themselves i guess right they become
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like narco drug criminals basically right because you don't you you don't realize that you know like
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you know just something i think about even even with my kids right so we'll you know i'll get home
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and the very first thing they want to do is pounce right when i get home from work and it's like daddy's
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home we're going to go wrestle and but at the same time like we might be throwing each other around
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the room but but because i've got two little boys you know you always kind of make sure that hey
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everyone's okay at the same time we understand there's a certain line that won't be crossed and so
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something that i think about that occurred to me just while you know throwing my kids around the room
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um was that it's a great way to get stressed out by the way especially when you're stressing your kids
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um is that you're you're also teaching them that yes you know by being a man you do have you have
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physical strength you have emotional strength but you also but there's also limitations and there's
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also rules and there's responsibilities inherent to that so speaking of limitations and i segue to our
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next topic hold up hold up let me finish because this is important okay james i know i can thank you
00:26:41.740
charlie though uh the because i gotta tell you why i'm pro-bullying and i didn't get there it's not
00:26:46.380
about male mentorship what did i tell you on your show last time i sat down in phoenix with you i
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said was the most dangerous thing in the universe a frustrated nerd a frustrated academic is actually
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what i said yes right bullying actually takes your academic narcissist and knocks them off their pedestal
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these people who think they know how to organize society for everybody else because they're off in
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their academic theory that they spun up used to get hit in the head they used to get their lunch money
00:27:14.140
taken from them they used to get shot in a locker they used to get called names they used to get
00:27:17.500
turned upside down they used to get wedgies i'm not saying that those are necessarily the best way to
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deal with them but they used to get knocked down several pegs so like pete buddha judge used to be
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thrown in a locker and now he's transportation secretary well this is a thing though frustrated
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academics need to be knocked down speaking of universal vagina high secretary like isn't transportation
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secretary like like the locker of the cabinet like i mean it is it's already a cabinet blake yeah
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so james to complete your point the way that we stop ourselves from tyrannical nerds is to bring
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back bullying well i mean it's got to be done you've got to keep an eye on it the james lindsey institute
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of bullying i see it coming folks i see it coming i think we've won over half the room um not the other
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half okay let's get to the next topic here speaking of limitations i know you are all excited for our
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action conference this weekend right it's going to be amazing
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now i i'm very curious okay who if the if you were to vote today who would you vote for trump
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raise your hands who would vote for trump would you say that's 80 jack yeah that's about great well i'll
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get to the other options but it's not even close obviously how about desantis raise your hand
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okay it's about 15 people so uh donald trump will be here vivek ramaswam anyone for vivek you big
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vivek vivek vivek you voted three times you voter fraud that is voted for all right all right now
00:28:44.940
who's running the santa's voting for doug bergum who's voting for doug bergum
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bergamentum you're a doug bergum guy because you got the gift card probably
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per voter bribery i'm not voting for him but i'm donating to him yeah yeah no donating it's like
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it's the weirdest donation scheme ever i will give a dollar and i will it's actually reverse
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money laundering the whole thing is so weird um okay so nikki haley anybody nikki nikki nikki
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mike pence any big mike pence people make pence nope not oh no he gets booze the first one you're
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chris christie guy that that would be that that'd be interesting um crispy chris who am i forgetting
00:29:21.500
tim scott any tim scott people tim tim tim scott's the new one right tim we all love tim scott now
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uh no one for tim scott hutchinson hutchinson who will be here who will be here uh okay so i think
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i think we've exhausted the list okay will heard mr cia himself right okay if i if i listed every
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candidate jack we would be here until tuesday so we have a whole bunch of people coming president
00:29:44.940
donald trump will be here tucker carlson which you guys are i'm sure excited to hear from megan
00:29:49.980
kelly we love tucker steve bannon dan bongino don jr senator ted cruz senator jd vance senator eric
00:29:58.060
schmidt lineup is unbelievable everybody you guys are in the center of it all but noticeably missing
00:30:03.820
from it is governor ron desantis governor ron desantis declined uh and he is not attending jack how
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should we think to see they're they're murmuring they're booing and you know what you guys have a
00:30:14.540
right to do that because he's going to be in the state and it's obviously not a priority to speak to
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six thousand activists and two thousand students that are making things happen what's going on jack
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why does he not have respect for the turning point students well you know charlie just just looking at
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it from and you know i mean it's it's tough right you know i'm here at the event we do a lot with
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turning point so it's it's tough for me to be objective about this but if i i try to be objective
00:30:37.260
and pull myself out of it you really have to look at it and say there are polls floridapolitics.com has
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us out if you go look at the florida atlantic university poll it says that right now ron desantis
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is down between down uh with trump with under 45 voters by 50 points a 50 point deficit with under
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45 voters which as florida politics pointed out is significant because ron desantis himself is under 45.
00:31:09.020
he's actually 44 so he's a member of his own cohort this is the demographic that he and i didn't look
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at all the crosstabs but i think that was the largest delta of the largest deficit of any group
00:31:20.540
that he had across the board his highest was actually with over 65s now in florida that helps
00:31:26.380
but across the country you know you certainly need more um need more of the youth vote and then at the
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same you know charlie to your point and and of course to the people who are in this room right now
00:31:35.820
this select few you understand the importance of youth activism you understand that the people
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that are coming to a turning point event this isn't just like a young conservative event no
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these are the most switched on the most active the most boots on the ground that are going to go back
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to and i think charlie you know correct me if i'm wrong but we're going to have all 50 states you know
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here's the other thing jack is that yes we are best known as a student organization but as we as i grow
00:32:00.620
and we grow the organization grows we're going to have 300 pastors here you've been around our pastors
00:32:05.500
james these are serious people yeah they're switched on to 250 social media ambassadors 500 donors
00:32:11.420
10 billionaires 140 members of the press so he's not just snubbing young people he's saying to the
00:32:17.020
entire base i have something more important to do right so you've got a reflective slice of the entire
00:32:23.100
base 6 000 people yeah i just got 6 000 plus the amount of people that they touch through their
00:32:30.460
social media followings through their congregations through their chapters etc etc and so if you're
00:32:36.300
running for president you've got to win those people over you must do this let's play the devil's
00:32:41.020
advocate blake okay but he's probably saying on his team this is a trumpy crowd this is maga
00:32:46.380
i don't want to get a negative reaction so i'm not going to play ball can you win a primary by avoiding
00:32:51.260
voters you need to win over i don't think you can it's like okay you're running for you're running
00:32:56.860
for president and yeah is is trump really popular yeah is he kind of a dominant personality yeah can
00:33:02.540
his supporters be pretty rough with people yeah well you chose to enter a race against him you have to
00:33:08.300
beat him right like yeah i mean how are you going to win many of us how many fairy tales how many fairy
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tales are there where like the hero is like i'm gonna run away from the dragon right hide from the dragon
00:33:19.100
and then like tldr they win somehow at the end but that's the anti-bullying fairy tale i'm gonna
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report the dragon lord of the rings we're gonna go hide as far away as possible and the ring will
00:33:31.100
just fall into mount doom and yeah so so james i mean you're looking at this kind of as an outsider
00:33:37.580
insider you know us really well what do you think i mean can you speak to the missed opportunity that
00:33:42.620
this very you speak to a lot of turning point stuff you know we have something special going on here
00:33:47.100
yeah i mean i i told you this earlier today is this is the highest energy group active in politics
00:33:53.980
on the conservative side actually it's the highest energy group in politics that there is uh in the
00:33:58.220
country it's got the the widest reach the opportunity to to skip getting to talk to this when you're
00:34:05.340
running for president in particular yes it's just mind-boggling i was kind of hoping you weren't
00:34:10.860
going to ask me to talk about it because i'm just confused are you are you comfortable sharing what
00:34:14.780
you said privately if not that's fine on the de santis stuff i mean i can get a little bit around
00:34:19.500
the edges it kind of happened on twitter part of it did um i was on twitter and uh i criticized
00:34:25.660
something that the governor's wife some one of her initiatives that she put out about resilience
00:34:29.820
i think people should pay very close attention i don't necessarily think that people have bad
00:34:33.580
intentions here but the word resilience is a very captured term if you follow that world economic forum
00:34:38.700
you'll find that that's one of their like five major words they care about for the future of the
00:34:43.660
world uh it's literally a more sustainable inclusive and resilient world because it's like sustainable so
00:34:50.380
like yeah yeah it's way up there what resilience means by the way in woke speak is taking your
00:34:55.820
indoctrination and not complaining because otherwise you're fragile remember white fragility hey jack
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you're a racist no i'm not white fragility the opposite of that would be resilience hey jack you're
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a racist thank you may i have another that's resilient in in the military they'd call that
00:35:08.940
counter interrogation training well yeah so this is this idea so i said this is poorly branded and
00:35:15.500
they they went after me they were who went after you jeremy redfern the press secretary the press
00:35:21.660
secretary governor yes so he's like you're scared of words james like really jeremy you can do this
00:35:28.060
with me on social media wrong place bro yeah but it's just like that's a strange like twitter policing
00:35:32.940
it turned into this weird twitter policing thing and so then some people from the office called me
00:35:38.140
later and told me i need to apologize to the first lady and i was like what and i won't repeat the f
00:35:43.900
word that i said um they they asked you to apologize to casey desanis yes publicly publicly i recall another
00:35:53.020
presidential campaign that demanded apologies to like the candidate's wife and it didn't end well for
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them yeah which campaign was that remember jeb bush oh is that you go to apologize to my wife why i
00:36:05.420
said nothing wrong so i mean i just i want to build this out a little bit before we get to the next topic
00:36:10.940
here and also talk about one of our partners this is a big event the the primary jack you're going to
00:36:16.220
iowa tomorrow as well where i'm gonna sniff him out i'm gonna sniff him out where desantis will be
00:36:22.300
um with talker trump will not be just getting out of here trump is so moved by the work you guys are
00:36:27.340
doing on the first phone call he's like i want to talk to your kids 100 that's how much he cares
00:36:32.540
about what you guys are doing i i really hope i hope that you understand that the uh the governor's
00:36:38.700
team does not does not have that same sort of attachment evidently so but but jack just talking
00:36:44.700
from like what let's map this out let's let's think about this a little bit more creatively if you
00:36:50.700
were desantis how should you have handled this is what i think he should have done he should have
00:36:55.260
called our team and said i want to buy a booth i'd like to have a thousand tickets i'd like to have
00:37:00.460
a sponsorship i would like to have i would i want a good speaking slot i want to host an influencer
00:37:05.500
reception god knows he's got enough influencers in south florida like every one of the twitter
00:37:09.180
people that support him live around here and then what ron desantis should do what he won't is he should
00:37:14.380
have come up on stage and do what i do on college campuses open mic disagree go to the front of the line
00:37:20.060
let's have it up you would have respected desantis if you did that 100 you would have been but he's
00:37:25.580
not doing that because he doesn't have that energy trump would do that trump would be like i'm the
00:37:31.740
alpha caitlin collins you disagree ask me anything we all yeah we were all everyone was thinking that
00:37:36.620
was a terrible idea for trump i don't i didn't it's it's an ambush i thought it was great they're gonna
00:37:41.340
they're gonna try to trap him he's like i'm gonna go on cnn and that's what we wanted to see and then all
00:37:45.340
of a sudden it's just like i am the biggest beast there is and you can't come through me if desantis
00:37:50.380
would have come here and did an open mic and every one of the objections people would be like oh i
00:37:54.540
think you're a globalist and he could have responded then with however he would have responded which
00:37:58.620
probably wouldn't pretty been pretty good he would have gone up in people's respect and people
00:38:02.460
like you know what that's a guy who would take on the fbi instead how is he going to take on the
00:38:06.300
fbi if he's not willing to talk to college and i said this as well it's you're you're running for
00:38:11.980
president right and and you know even if this one doesn't work out then you know potentially
00:38:17.900
there are florida senate seats that could be opened up here rick scott might be getting out
00:38:23.180
he's been talking about going back to his old job um you know rubio who knows what's going on there and
00:38:28.860
then there's potential other runs in the future obviously and so the way that you categorize yourself
00:38:34.540
now is going to carry with you right there's a reason we don't talk about scott walker anymore
00:38:40.380
there's a reason that jeb bush is a punchline now that mike pence is rapidly becoming himself
00:38:46.700
uh there's a reason that you know just say it like ted cruz he's gonna he's in the senate of texas
00:38:51.740
i don't know where else he goes after that right he's a text center probably as long as he wants to
00:38:55.740
be and i think he's a fantastic texas senator but there are levels to this right and you have to deal
00:39:01.100
with reality and maybe you need some bullies around to explain that to people but blake to your
00:39:05.820
but here's the thing trump is the bully the salt you know honestly i want him to go bully the fbi
00:39:10.620
right now exactly i want trump to go boy exactly like i want him to be our bully against these
00:39:16.700
woke commies and yeah if you're going to run against him in the primary he's not going to
00:39:20.700
allow himself and run then run yeah then actually run and play the game don't run ads and just go to
00:39:26.940
donor where where's the desantis boats going up and down the inter causeway you know where's the you
00:39:31.980
you know what's so bad about it is he's actually a great governor and he's an objectively great
00:39:36.380
governor with real policy accomplishments and a real conservative intercourse and even one i'm
00:39:41.180
being honest like i i don't want to lie about it like i don't i think everyone agrees and he's been
00:39:44.860
a great governor yeah now is messing up an opportunity to actually improve our party and and i hope it
00:39:49.660
i i genuinely hope it doesn't like permanently ruin either him or ruin like the relationship between
00:39:55.900
him and trump to the extent it's souring by them it is it is very strongly but you know we've seen this
00:40:01.580
before because i think it's not just that he's been a good governor but he does to some extent
00:40:07.260
fill holes in trump's game which is he is very execution focused and i think to the extent there's
00:40:13.900
a flaw with trump that he isn't always execution imagine if they work together yeah just i keep
00:40:18.700
saying it imagine if imagine if trump was the one who had to you know do his press conferences take all
00:40:24.460
of the flack from the press while his chief of staff or secretary or ag or whatever you want to
00:40:30.220
santa to do does a million things that are ultra controversial every day in a second trump
00:40:35.100
administration i think that could be incredibly powerful james you thought any closing thoughts
00:40:40.220
on this the only thought i mean i like i said i hope you didn't ask me too much about de santis
00:40:43.980
personally because i'm like why is he doing this okay but i just i did have the privilege of just
00:40:49.340
hearing um both of them speak actually like the last week and um you know de santis gave a great talk
00:40:56.380
is very policy oriented he could have given a great talk here it's a missed opportunity this
00:41:01.100
is what it is but that energy that you were talking about with trump was definitely there
00:41:04.620
just another anecdote during his talk and before his talk in a kind of a pre-event meet and greet
00:41:09.980
he did it three times i know of at least there's probably more but he said they said i can't say this
00:41:15.340
i don't care and then he said it that's the kind of energy that we actually need they said we can't say
00:41:21.340
this and i don't care i'll say it anyway and i i just just i don't have a good comment about mr
00:41:28.460
de santis on this one but i i see the energy with trump is still there yep it is what it is and uh
00:41:33.820
we're we're thrilled that he uh he's he's i will say this he wants to earn the nomination charlie can i
00:41:39.820
ask you something yeah sure how do you think it's going to go tomorrow with tucker and de santis i have
00:41:46.380
no idea i mean i i've i've heard whispers that you know tucker is going to let him have it here's
00:41:50.700
i mean tucker and ever my favorite part of the andrew tate interview is when tucker asked him
00:41:55.180
about ukraine i'm like he just can't help himself like every time tucker's in an interview it's like
00:41:59.900
it has to and i'm the same way yeah but that's my point like don't you think he's going to ask him
00:42:03.820
about and that's what i'm getting to it's like i it's impossible i mean is nikki haley really going
00:42:07.820
to take questions from tucker carlson please do it's like please i i i want to i'm just sitting
00:42:13.980
there with popcorn like let's go is mike pence really going to take questions from tucker carlson mike pence
00:42:20.060
might get knocked out of the race tomorrow by tucker carl yeah i mean do we even if he's
00:42:25.180
even still running like i mean so yeah i mean i hope tucker lets them all have it and says
00:42:30.060
why on earth are you mike pence visiting ukraine while we have 10 000 people invading our country
00:42:35.420
on a daily basis he has the perfect out he could just say he's running for president of ukraine
00:42:40.700
yes but that would require him to be honest and he's like i mean why are you going to ukraine
00:42:45.420
what like how many delegates when is the ukrainian primary i'm really confused you know you have to
00:42:49.660
be careful they're not having elections you have to be careful with that question because i don't
00:42:52.860
think we can rule out that the gop would give ukraine delegates oh no i could see mitch mcconnell
00:42:59.020
being like it's so true and the delegates for lvov cast their votes for their cave delegation
00:43:08.220
properly very in favor of mike pence the turtle so um it's a missed opportunity by ronda santis and
00:43:16.460
it's too bad um okay you guys can email us freedom at charliekirk.com i want to tell you about public
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download the public square app james have you downloaded are you familiar with it i had no
00:45:06.460
idea about it no it's a game changer you got to look at it they're growing like crazy in fact they're
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actually going to be publicly listed on the new york stock exchange i think next week uh they have
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a new diaper company to everylife.com that every life is so cool yeah so cool because all the diaper
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companies i know this is not not be the demographic yet that cares about this but you will spend a lot
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of money on diapers okay hi yeah i mean thousands of dollars you have no idea you have no it's
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unbelievable and by the way i found out the diaper company that we're buying from cody a or whatever
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pro-abortion pro-abortion diaper companies i mean you think about that right like i mean you would
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think like you'd want more babies for your own business model you think this this is where the
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libertarians get it wrong and i'm sorry libertarians but you'd think like some libertarians are pro-life but
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a lot of the libertarians not all of them ron paul's pro-life by the way so it's rand paul so
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it's rand paul obviously but i mean there's they where they say that companies will always act in
00:45:58.220
their best interest right i don't know that that's true because i haven't seen it i just haven't seen
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it so it's public square app check it out public square app okay let's go to jonah hill this have you
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guys seen this story yes no maybe i i i i read this and i said playing this one a little huh i said yeah
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it might need some explanation i don't think it needs that much hill too old for these people what
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yeah you guys know who jonah hill is these days watch you don't know who jonah hill is you don't
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you guys never seen money ball super bad all right okay there's there's help there's
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is this the woman that they're saying is a mid no that that's marjo robbie do you guys know who that is
00:46:35.980
she is mid wow okay okay that's uh that's that's quite a take um we'd love to see somebody defend
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defend that one okay but so let's mike let's uh let's read it so jonah hill comes out and texts his
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girlfriend who now she publicizes these text messages stating the following to be clear to be
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ex now this is his ex-girlfriend this is about a year and a half ago and he's with someone else
00:47:08.140
now and they just had a baby apparently and this seems to have broken her brain to some extent these
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texts were from when they were together a year and a half in the past they are not together now so
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jonah hill sent a flurry of messages plain and simple if you need surfing with men boundaryless
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inappropriate friendships with men if you need to model to post pictures of yourself in a bathing
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suit to post sexual pictures friendships with women who are in unstable places and from your wild
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recent past beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful i am not the right partner
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for you if these things bring you to a place of happiness i support it and there'll be no hard
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feelings these are my boundaries for romantic partnership my boundaries with you based on the
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way these actions have hurt our trust it's just constant and doesn't reflect where we're at or
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where you want to be i respect your skill and your surfing i respect how you want to present yourself
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i respect that you're hot and beautiful i respect however you want to live but i also respect myself
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and what i'm interested in my own life and what i let into my heart in my inner circle so celebrate
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yourself and life however you please and shine bright but i don't want to have to deal with it
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is jonah hill wrong and it keeps on going it's the same thing the most abusive man to ever live
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no i think jonah hill's 100 right like wait wait explain why you're saying that well because one
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they're literally hyping it like he is the most abusive man in the world emotionally abusive there
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have been like twitter feminists and white knights coming out and saying that this is the most abusive
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gaslighting narcissistic uh action that a man has ever taken the the person who first wrote like
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gaslighting as a modern essay like to describe behavior is responsible for a lot because it is
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now the most overused term yeah just because just because a man is talking does not mean he's
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gaslighting and just because a man has an opinion it doesn't make him a narcissist sorry women see
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that's the toxic masculinity thing that's what it did to us is people are confused about that exactly
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yeah totally it's also like the redditification of the human race or something there's like a
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subreddit called raised by narcissists where a bunch of narcissists complain about how everyone
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narcissist inception basically and so now we have this giant civil war and i'll i will say i think
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i wouldn't say jonah hill is blameless in this because i think he probably did buy into this like
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this is not the way i would necessarily always want to communicate with someone but he is following
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a script that is set for him and it is sort of proof that you can't win like he is doing exactly
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what you're supposed to do according to these people and their react their reaction is to call
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it that's super abuse but that's my point to begin with right is that so is he being abusive no he's not
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being abusive he's talking around he's using this therapy speak to your point that is what the the modern
00:50:01.340
man who's in touch with his feelings is told to say you need to respect my boundaries you need to
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respect my our relationship this is her trust all of this in the past this is our trust and i want
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you to be happy and i want to respect yourself it's like jonah just man up if you if you don't like
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what she's doing walk away just just leave i don't know i mean i'm doing that actually bounce
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just bounce bro which i guess he did apparently what would andrew tate do it's yeah exactly i mean it's like
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it's like why are you as a man trying to act like a woman and to get your wife or your not even your
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wife your your girlfriend at this point to to enter into this sort of traditional uh relationship roles
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and that's something where it's funny because when this came up i was talking to my wife about this
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and my wife coming from eastern europe does not have like any of the woke programming mind virus crap
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that you get in the west and remember the one thing that she really clued in on was like
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if you're in a relationship with somebody why are you going and hanging out with people of the other
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sex like that's just not something that's done in traditional cultures yet in the west we constantly
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push that oh no this is just my guy friends oh no like it's cool i can hang out with some girls and
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it's not you like no that's totally inappropriate maybe not cool and not appropriate and i'm not saying we
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need to go like full taliban and you know you're not allowed to leave the house if you're a single
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woman without a man that you're related to women should not have man men friends if you're in a
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relationship period but that's right then that's what tanya said why would i do that i should i would
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never do that to you and it would never occur to her to do that to me no it's deeply unhealthy and
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results in affairs cheating or gossiping relationships uh that are really deeply hurtful i don't know i read
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these jonah texts and i actually have respect for him to tell his girlfriend to like stop acting
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slutty on like social media and be like i don't want to be with you if you're going to be like that
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like i totally respect that i think he's kind of being a little bit like i'm going to i'm going to
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draw a line and if not like go find go be your own person he's trying he's he's trying but it's also
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private conversation that got leaked too like that whoever this deranged lunatic woman is and they're
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like oh he's so controlling like yeah apparently he's laying out a pretty bad case against you
00:52:17.660
that what your boundary boundaryless inappropriate friendships with men posting pictures of yourself
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in a bathing suit totally inappropriate in a relationship friendships with women who are in
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unstable places a fun angle to this is that when he's the bathing suit thing is she works as a surf
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instructor at least on the side and they're like he's destroying her career this is an attack on
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you know the equality of their careers well i looked it up and she has like 9 000 instagram
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followers or something it maybe was more than that it was it was a low amount considering she had been
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mega in the news for several years and you know in comparison like he's a movie star even if even if
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he is a star famous for playing like fat accountants he's still a movie star and it just felt very
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strange to be like oh he's he's derailing her career oh my gosh and she's like in law school now
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don't go to law school he's it's it's it's the issue i mean it it actually does have a ton of layers
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to it right it's is is he acting and maybe james you can get your take on this like is he trying it's
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like he's trying to be assertive but he doesn't know how to have masculine assertiveness because he only
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thinks he's allowed to in this sort of feminized uh therapy group session kind of thing which by the
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way if you go to couples therapy then uh the the the therapist will simply just say whatever the man
00:53:40.620
says is wrong whatever the woman says is right whatever makes her happy is good that's that's
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part of this which is part of the justification for her blowing this up publicly is he has been
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very public about like his working relationship with his therapist and they've essentially tried
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to cancel his therapist as well for like taking his side in some of these so is it the same i i don't
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know if it was always the same one i try not to read too much celebrity gossip otherwise you become gay
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over time uh and so but apparently like yeah this is obviously they're like this evil therapist who sided
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with this abusive man no but that's what happens in controlling behavior it's like prince harry and
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megan right so this is the same thing like prince harry used to be the one who was like going to
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afghanistan and smoking terrorists and now he comes in and he's like i you know i i feel so bad and you know
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my my daddy called me a naughty you know a naughty word and he said something about megan and i think he
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looked at her racially he looked at her racially a little bit and he starts like crying up there and
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it's like dude you were the good one you were the cool thing is is we know that's going to end with
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her accusing him of being emotionally abusive that divorce and they're going to need to send epic
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they're going to need to send the sas to like extract this royal princeling from los angeles he
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might not make it out alive he made it out of afghanistan alive but he may not make it out of megan
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alive uh so that was a weird setup guys um i've got your thoughts i don't oh so i kind of agree with
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charlie i think like whatever this is how the guy said look i'm not comfortable with this do what you
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want if you want to go be somebody else it's not my business to police you see you by whatever fine
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good for him if that's how he would communicate i don't care if he's in therapeutic culture i don't
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care it's like fine by me whatever what i see is this pattern that you guys just kind of like
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megan markled out on is in this case is likely the case given why these texts are in front of us in
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the first place is the unbelievable pathology that a man will twist himself into to get with a
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unhealthy woman yep you will break yourself and i've seen this happen so many times with so many
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men you you will find that there's a woman and she's a bit of a narcissist and you will twist
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yourself in knots where everything she does is okay so that you can continue to be her narcissistic
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supply i can fix her i can fix her it's not even i can fix her it's like she's probably hot
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she's probably fun to be around and then you're like i have all this benefit and then you're
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actually kind of trapped because look what happened he's he draws these lines whatever he moves on with
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his life he ends up having a kid and she's like nuclear bomb on your life dude james are you referring
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to the hot crazy matrix well i mean it's obviously relevant you know you get way up there on the because
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if you're up there in that zone how many of you guys know what we're talking about the hot crazy
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matrix crazy matrix is like in the bible yeah this is this is um that's in leviticus
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that also leviticus also yeah um this this is this is your redheads this is your strippers your
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hairdressers your women named tiffany i heard one time that anytime you know one of the great videos
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well in your life god will send you a actually following ends with an a so it's a woman named
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who's in name wins with an a sorry girls um but the fact of the matter is though that that chasing
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so listen young man let me give you some andrew tate advice let's go chasing a emotionally unhealthy
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woman and you can usually tell they are because they post too much of themselves on social media
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it's true will break you you have to be extraordinary levels of based to be able to pull back from that
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and not cause that to have problems i've had serious friends get completely warped around a
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narcissistic woman narcissism isn't just a problem with wokies it's a problem more broadly and
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you know you've you see what can happen um you get this kind of like perma fed mentality where
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anything you do later may be held against you well charlie you you actually talk about this because
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you know this is the intersection of where social media actually feeds this kind of behavior
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yeah no the uh social media we think about it so what are you doing here tonight on a thursday
00:57:52.460
night and this weekend you're being social who the people right now on social media are being
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anti-social and so the actually the most anti-social people engage the most on social media like jack
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and so kidding jack so and but you think that the incentive structure on social media is to get
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really really good and hyper engaged and to get things to go viral unless you're doing something
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super interesting in the real world that then translates into actual social media content
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people want to see then the anti-social people engage the most in the platform that's supposed
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to be a reflection of socialization so it's the actual inverse right and because you have to spend
00:58:31.420
so much time and you actually burrow yourself in and then it becomes it doesn't become a reflection
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of reality it becomes a reflection of a pathology well you're cloud chasing yes exactly
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short way to say you're just cloud chasing yeah there's a there's a nerdy word for that called
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parasocial parasocial relationships yeah parasocial relationships yeah if you confuse those for real
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social relationships you're lost if you don't have any real social relationships and they're all
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parasocial you're lost it's a really bad place to be we could get a full jordan peterson on this though
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because he very famously at one point said you know well the difference between the internet is that
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male aggression doesn't upload but female aggression uploads very well but what actually really uploads
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really really well is personality disorders yes and that anti-social behavior gets you a lot of
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places in social media so the technology factor what social media brings to the table does in fact feed
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these broadly cluster b personality disorders that are running rampant and causing dysfunction
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throughout our society and then with children cutting their genitals off and to use a less you know
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nerdy term too many parasocial relationships leads to becoming a pay pig and you don't want to be a pay
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pig you definitely don't want to be a pay pig charlie what's that what's it's basically when you're
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older what's the synonym it's it's the same thing as being a fin dom to be a fin don i'm dom what is that
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well i say it's the inverse of being a fin dom the inverse of being a fin dom you'd be a fin sub
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got it so we're coming full circle we'll go should we explain to charlie what a fin sub and a pay pig
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are should we explain to charlie is jack bullying charlie so no well this is this this is part of the
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the thought crime so it's basically it it i can explain this very easily because we just talked
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about andrew tate and his former business right running cam girls so this would be the customer base
01:00:23.020
for that this would be the marks this would be the targets of the men who are then watching the
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camera girls who then if they really get hooked in uh what andrew tate has and he's talked about
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this publicly that he would actually take over the girls accounts and then start finding all the
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different ways to get the men to send to send more and more money well now i know and then they're they're
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pay pigs which is just a fun word to say over and over again especially around people who don't
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know what it means and with that we hit a new all-time high for simultaneous viewers how many
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people do we have watching uh over 5 000 uh 51 46 right now oh wow nice there we go let's take some
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questions with the time we have remaining do we have the ability to do that with uh some mics and stuff
01:01:11.260
i'd love to do we can just repeat yes we do yeah we do where's the guy who said margot robbie was a mid
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i want him up all right do you want to ask a question defend it defend it no courage these
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days i know right thank you it's all the anti-bullying hey guys uh i'm josiah martin from upstate new york
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chapter president and a small business owner and i resonate with what charlie said earlier about
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being an entrepreneur and my goal is in life is to become that entrepreneur and i was just wondering
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what advice you'd have for me i've looked up to you guys a lot especially charlie and the ambition
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that you have in growing turning point and i would love to hear what you'd have for me as a
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small business owner to grow and also how do we get more young people to become owners um are you in
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college no okay good that's the first thing don't go to college if you want to that's why i'm a business
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owner yeah good um so the the first thing is you might i mean i don't want to speak for everybody
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here but a couple things when it comes to business is when you have very little take the biggest
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possible risk so if while you're small you should that's the time to take risk be very careful with
01:02:14.060
debt try to operate debt free so when i take risk i'm talking about leveraging what you can lose
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without actually having to go into the negative right so basically your time the best investment
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you can make is in yourself because that is an investment that appreciates over time so in your
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knowledge your wisdom your body your physique your your vitality your energy um and so when you're a
01:02:35.660
small business you are the business so you must invest yourself and you have to outwork your your
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highest working employee by two right so not just not just in hours but just in commitment and in all
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those different things and you have to set the pace so once the business starts to get to scale 10
01:02:51.980
to 15 20 to 25 30 to 35 then all of a sudden your job as a leader is less of doing the work casting the
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vision and then getting proper information and data and making sure that that vision is constantly being
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fulfilled um and it's just a non-stop thing of building a good team finding loyal people hiring
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the right people firing the bad people kind of repeating that um and then there will be an
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inflection point after 18 to 24 months where you have to decide if you actually want to keep doing
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whatever you're doing what kind of business are you in by the way we make handmade pretzels and also
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retail oh that's amazing so i mean you you could potentially become a billionaire in that not
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not kidding right like there's people have made billionaire become billionaires and all sorts of
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different anti-annes and starbucks like dunkin donuts and so you're in a very labor intensive
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business and a low margin high volume business that in some ways has been commoditized so you
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need to find a way to try to find a differentiator either in branding or recipe quality and all that
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stuff raises the price and the cost so how do you compensate for that you're gonna have to work
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more hours well hey hey don't forget by the way public square that's right you should be on public
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square yeah there we go that's right i do think it's worth so if you if you by the way i don't
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know if we mentioned earlier but if you have a business you can obviously list yourself on public
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square is my point and i think it's worth emphasizing that i think in our heads we think uh we've been
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propagandized to see a startup as like a 100 new idea like you're going to start a new tech product
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or a new website or a totally you know even like a totally unique recipe of pretzel or something
01:04:21.740
james lindsey school institute of bullying yeah there there's a huge there's a huge number of
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businesses that are just traditional businesses that you can do that there's just not a lot of
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people who do for example like bespoke carpentry there's a ton of anything that got backed up during
01:04:35.900
covet is technically something that would be ripe for like entrepreneurship my brother is carpentry
01:04:40.140
exactly like and not not just generic but do like if you learn how to install something a lot of
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people want but only one person knows how to do you know it's much easier to outcompete one person on
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being more available or having a slightly cheaper price or being better at it than them and there's
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literally hundreds of businesses you can do that in and it can be as basic as like having a better
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like storage company than the one that already exists in your town sure yeah and so basically
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you have to want it more than the next person the thing that i realized after four or five years of
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doing this attorney point is that grit hustle and desire are not equally distributed amongst competitors
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like most people in politics really are super lazy and i thought everyone wanted to be successful as
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much as i did and actually make an impact and so as long as you want it more you're going to be
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successful and then if you have good ideas and finally ethics will be your defining characteristic
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you must act in an ethical way never tell a lie always tell the truth treat people well be clear
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with your standards i could write a whole book on all this stuff but smarter minds than me have so if
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you're more interested in business advice i happy to talk about it later so one more point i want to
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make i want to pitch an idea to you guys of making the shark tank an airbnb for jobs where it'd be
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uh people would do an apprenticeship instead of um all this college nonsense they'll be able to come
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and learn hard skills out of business it's a good idea that's uh the person who to has the time i don't
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have the time to disrupt the college industry will become a billionaire if somebody wants to become a
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billionaire there is a there is a hundred billion dollar opportunity to create something that is in
01:06:10.620
college that can get people equipped trained for low cost it is a 100 billion dollar idea no exaggeration
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it is the greatest need right now in job training and placement college is a scam wrote a whole book
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on it companies companies know that you know college graduates mean nothing the piece of paper means
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nothing so who's going to fill the void maybe when you guys will yes thank you very much unless it's
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hillsdale yes i know yeah okay great i got to say it every time hey charlie you know people who are lazy
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and don't have any hustle in politics and here i didn't even think we were going to talk about
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yaf tonight about the what about yaf all next question so howdy y'all my name's ethan parks i'm
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from sumter county florida you know where the villages is yeah yeah i love the village yeah i'm
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right below there it's county that's quite a place the villages yes yes quite a place loofah's everywhere
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so i go to south sumter high school i'm the chapter president there um you're right so thank you
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so i'm in kind of a sticky situation my principal you know villages is a conservative area that area
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very conservative my principal's conservative but he's scared of the leftist and won't let us meet
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during the school day he said we have to do after school but lots of us have jobs including myself so
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i can't do after school and you know i've had the thought of reporting it to someone you know because
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that's limiting our free speech we have the right to do that he'll let the fishing club meet but won't
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let us so my mom's also the assistant principal so i'm i'm kind of in a box there with what i can do so
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do you all have any like information or advice that i can use somebody else want to kick this one
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uh you're pointing at me like i'm a lawyer and i just i just know a lot of lawyers uh no but uh
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what would immediately stand out to me is just any you know even if you're a political organization if
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you're a club that is allowed to exist at your school which you are like if they're they have to
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treat you just like they would treat any other clubs that is right yeah obviously any other political
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club but even non most non-political clubs so like they do have the obligation to treat you all the same
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how you should specifically react to it you know with your specific situation i'm not there i can't
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easily dictate it but i think you would have a very strong argument to say like you actually have a
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legal obligation to treat us the same way as you would treat any other organization here and if you're
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not willing to do that like well you can threaten to sue them i suppose yeah and i mean i would just i
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would just try to demand for equal treatment too right and just try to be a little bit you know of a
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respectful pest as we put it right and you know you're gonna get more with sugar than you are with
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spice you're in high school right yes especially in high school yeah but i mean trying to have like
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trying to be in a place of fear and saying we can't give you space is just not right so next question
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let's try me as many as we can by the way if it were me i would just have a meeting anyway man just do
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it yeah i i totally find a space and say hey we're meeting so shut it down hello hi my name is kristen
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lameda i am the president of florida international university turning point usa chapter and i started
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the turning point usa chapter as well in miami dade college because i'm a transfer student to
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florida international university um i've always aspired to get into politics and law but lately
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i'm political science major lately has i been like progressing in my ice college career now i'm a senior
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um i have my aspirations have changed and my aspiration to go to law school has dwindled and
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i feel that i have another calling which is to do something entrepreneurial and higher education and
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i would love to create another hillsdale or another liberty university so i was wondering um if you had
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any advice of how to start um like a a private institution like that um a conservative god-fearing
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institution and also what your thoughts are like for example um i'm from florida de santa's uh they
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reformed a new college and now they want to make it conservative and so some people when they hear my idea
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of wanting to start like a conservative institution they say no just focus on capturing the universities
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which i think we need to do a little bit both so what do you think we need to do a little bit of
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both or just one of them or well james you're familiar with some of the stuff the higher education
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reform stuff right i mean yeah it's a challenge it's a real challenge i think i actually agree
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with you that both need to be happening you want to put pressure on the existing institutions and make
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them realize that they need to reform but at the same time if they have no competitors they're not that
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likely to give a crap and so you've got to have kind of some of both it's probably i've never tried to
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start a university but i'm assuming it's not easy uh it's very hard so you should go by the turning
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point academy booth they're going to be here all weekend starting on saturday and just tell them
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your story tell them your chapter leader they would love they would love to chat with you and i would
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love to talk to you uh james lindsay and charlie kirk about the ideas i have for higher education to
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see if you guys have i love it any ideas to add god bless you thank you so much thank you all right
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let's get to as many as we can everybody so let's get straight to the questions yes all righty so charlie this
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one's probably going to be more for you i tried to ask earlier but the mike lady didn't get to me
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so i'm very passionate about agriculture i grew up on a farm i know that you guys just added um
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stephanie nash on as an ag ambassador um so i'm just kind of wondering um how i can connect my passion
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for agriculture and politics for advocating for that through turning point because like i'm sure
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everybody heard about this lab grown meat like what is that china is still buying up our land what is
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that why in the hell are we buying meat and other products from overseas when we grow it just
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perfectly fine here in the u.s you know what i mean so do you have any resources for me or any advice
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of how i can kind of get connected in that where are you from um i'm in south dakota yeah that makes
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sense um aren't you from south dakota yeah what part uh i'm not from a farm i am non falls the only city of
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size so and you were raised on a farm i imagine yep are you studying agriculture in college or yep
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okay are they teaching you anything no yeah yeah i'm planning on transferring to a two-year because
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i can get tuition reimbursement but at this point i really don't want to be in school is it true would
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you say it's true you learned more on the farm growing up than in college 100 and an ffa yeah then
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why'd you go to college um because it was really pushed on me i was a first generation i'm not trying
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yeah yeah i'm not trying to make you feel bad okay so i believe firmly that our food supply is
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one of the most important things that we need to talk about as conservatives okay i'm a big organic
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guy i like locavorian i'm not a gmo fan i know that that's like controversial in the midwest but i
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think gmos are terrible and awful and really bad um and i think that the food supply is going to be one
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of the things that the world economic forum the globalists and the left go after we as conservatives
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have to reject processed food we have to reject all this crap that we put in our foods the dyes
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red 40 purple 22 you know by the way these oils canola oil all that it is garbage for you okay we
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eat way too much sugar way too much carbohydrates i know the farmers hate when i say this but honestly
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corn is not good for you okay corn is real and i know people are going to boo me off stage but corn
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has no nutritional value it's not good for you blake you'll back me up on this right corn is a demon
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yeah corn is really bad for you cows are great for you though so that's what i will agree we should
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have more cows and kill more cows and eat more meat okay um dairy i'm not a big believer in but
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that's a separate issue but we need conservatives in agriculture and if that's your calling you are on
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a righteous path because the worst vermin are getting involved in our food supply right now
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and we're all going to be less free because of what's happening with our food james you're nodding
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along an agreement can you elaborate on that i mean it's the global program that we're all being
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subjected to to kind of just give it a bland name um the the coming tyranny has to control the food supply
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and if we don't take very seriously controlling our own food supply and taking it to healthy places as
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opposed to unhealthy places we're in really really bad trouble um we already saw the huge farmer issue
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in the netherlands obviously now that seems to be bearing a little bit of fruit in in the right
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direction sort of now but uh with root head to leave or however you say that guy's name jack
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do you notice that guy's name the former prime minister of uh well is it the whole government
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collapsed yeah boohoo for this and migrants yeah so we've got to fight this fight and i agree with
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charlie you're i'm not going to call corn a demon i'm not i don't i'm not as a dietarily uh i don't
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think anyone should eat corn i i think it's bad for you corn syrup it just if you look actually through
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here's your here's the proof if you eat a cob of corn you see a lot of it when it exits your body
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right your body's literally rejecting corn charlie has a newborn just everybody knows
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a newborn oh yeah that's right and so just trying to help you out buddy corn is very cheap to grow
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but it's not you don't need as you need you don't need carbohydrates to live by the way there's three
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types of food fat protein carbohydrates get rid of all carbohydrates in your in your diet eat healthy fats
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and protein and you will be at a manageable weight for you charlie how about this maybe because i mean
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i'm hearing the great questions here i mean what about like uh you know turning point farming turning
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point yeah you know i think i think you could lead it but i'm just saying it seems like i'm gonna get
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so many emails from we have so many farmers that listen to us and i have so much respect for them
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i'm not trying to insult their life's work of harvesting corn i just think it's i think i think
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the abundance of corn in western society is directly related to our obesity epidemic it's
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directly related from corn high fructose corn syrup to the mass production it is it goes directly into
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glucose creation into your body your body does not turn into anything useful except fat and maybe
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immediate sugar high energy any other thoughts never forget charlie that the civilization that gave us
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domesticated cultivated corn also believed in ripping people's beating hearts out of their
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bodies to keep the sun rising no correlation i'm sure but the most nutritious the the societies that
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lived the longest and actually had the best health outcomes were rooted in rice one of the reasons we
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switched over to so much corn is because of the ethanol subsidies as well and we yeah and that's
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that's a hotly debated thing again i'm very appreciative of farmers and what they're doing especially in
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harvesting cows because we need more cows even they're not like climate change and all that
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but i think that the more we get away from our fixation with you might say i don't eat corn
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i bet i could prove to you that you have a lot of corn in your diet your salad dressing your your soft
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drinks your desserts the amount of corn in our diet is just ridiculous i'm just imagining the media
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matters headline charlie kirk's pogrom on corn america america has apostatized from christianity
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to worship the new god of corn and that is why that is why the caucuses are in iowa that is why we
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do ethanol that's why i was the first in the it's the corn to iowa by the way i will if i if i were to
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ever do anything i would be booed off a stage in iowa for saying that corn is not good i'm sorry but
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it's just it's just not good well something else you'll boo me something else that's not good is
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what you said is letting letting chinese and weirdo billionaires with nefarious plans buy all of our
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farmland and our an issue that actually fits kind of within the spirit of your question is that
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uh communities can come together and start demanding that their uh counties or whatever
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else say no to this even if it would rescue the community financially there are communities that have
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done this that have organized and fought back on this issue and said no we're not going to sell
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our farmland to chinese even if the money would help and that's a very very powerful issue that
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i could see fitting in with the spirit of your question it's a it's a good point of the spear to
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start working a lot of americans are very aware that selling our farmland in massive amounts to chinese
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interests or ccp interests i should be more clear and to selling it to bill gates is probably not that
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great and those become community level issues around which politics can be organized that can make a
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massive difference where it really matters it turns out whether you like corn or not
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all right next question thank you thank you i'm very pro corn farmer for the record okay all right
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i just want to start by saying thank you guys um it's a real honor that i get to ask you guys
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questions right now um but my name is george cecil and i'm from the great state of idaho
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i was raised on a ranch and i was homeschooled and my question for you guys today is actually about
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digital currency um so people in my area are really concerned that america is going to be
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going to like digital currency in the future and they're really worried about the implications of
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that um what are your guys thoughts on that if it's going to be coming up soon and what we could
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do to hopefully prevent it or what's going to be happening with that i mean it's coming soon that's for
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sure i mean they openly said i forgot who it was when i say they there was a person with a name
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and as uh some slightly scarier voices and me say and an address who did say this um that it by september
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which is a very odd month to have picked uh 2024 that the shift to a digital dollar should be something
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that's fully in motion um what i would say about what you're talking about with your with your your
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colleagues and friends in idaho is that they're on the right track um digital currency is not currency
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unless there are some massive massive massive safeguards that we don't even have anything like
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the infrastructure to put into place to protect people it is a set of digital coupons by which
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the most effective and powerful tyranny the world has ever seen can be put on people it is the vehicle
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for a social credit system from which there is no escape it's not just a social credit system that's
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an app that annoys you tells you when you can buy a train ticket or when you can buy beef or when you can
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it is what your money can be used for if anything at all based on who you happen to be what you happen
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to have done did you come to a meeting like this which is super not okay did you listen to thought
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crimes which is not okay yeah i mean we saw in the canadian trucker revolt that they turned people's
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money off they froze their accounts now imagine currency that can be turned off for certain items
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for like i said me plane tickets train tickets whatever you want i'm thinking very european
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and chinese with the train tickets because in china first charlie to buy all the corn yeah yes that's
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right yeah they'll force feed charlie all the corn in the world um all his money can buy is corn and
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the corn farmers will will laugh and uh schaden fraud or however you say it schadenfreude say it
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say it in german for me schneidenfreude schadenfreude or whatever that thing where you're happy that
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somebody's had yes the lighting the lighting in people's suffering the most important thing in
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the world though is that we have to stop as big as the farm thing was the most important thing in
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the world is that we have to not have digital currency but i'd also i guess just add that to
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your to your question about you know is it coming it's here we already have digital the dollar is already
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digital how many times in the course of a regular week think about this do you actually use physical
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cash right you're using apple pay you're using whatever on your phone you're using stripe using
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square you're using even when you use your card so i think about it you know talking about my kids
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again the only time my kids actually see dollars is when we're at church and we're giving in the
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collection plate that's it i i've even gone to the atm just make sure i have cash before i go to church
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and then even then they've got the qr codes up in the pews now so we we need to be very careful about
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this and you also need to be careful that um once you do start accumulating some wealth
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okay we'll get to a couple more questions we have 4 300 people watching right now so great question
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thank you next question uh hi guys um charlie i watched your yes or no video with michael moles
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and i absolutely loved it thank you and i was a little bit perplexed to hear that you're not in
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favor of the death penalty yeah and i was wondering if you can elaborate on that and also what everyone
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else's view on the panel is about the death penalty so yeah if you would have asked me this question i
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would have been a lot more forceful years ago as being against the death penalty so let me talk on if
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we had a functioning society and a a government that was set up properly a life should be for a life
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period you murder you should be you should be you should be killed by the state this is in genesis
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it's yeah it's in genesis it's in exodus it's in leviticus it's very clear so that's my moral
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position okay the hesitation i have is our current government when you execute somebody that then gets
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exonerated 10 or 20 years later the wrongful execution of people that makes me take a little
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pause number two i'm generally on this theme of if you give government the ability to kill us that
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they're going to like start droning us i know that sounds really crazy but like the the erosion of
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due process and how government is abusing every power we give them is disproportionately used against
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conservatives so the third thing this this really shouldn't matter as much because we spend money
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on stupid stuff the death penalty is actually more expensive i know it might sound differently
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you know might be less expensive um but i i have changed in once i used to be like totally against it
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a lot more like civil libertarian on it but i've moved because you in the sense of if we had a
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functioning government which we don't and a in a criminal justice system that was somewhat like
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clear and effective like for example if it's you're tried by a jury of your peers with like indisputable
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video evidence and you admit that you murder somebody i think you should receive the death penalty
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right but there's like a really murky case right now in oklahoma where a guy's on death row and blake would
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even agree like it's the weirdest case where it's like did he pay for the guy to be killed and he
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hasn't admitted to it and it's been like a mistrial and it has to keep on getting delayed so let's say
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we kill the guy and we find out like 10 years later like that that i think is one of the great evils
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that government can do is murdering an innocent man and that happens a lot by the way a lot more
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hundreds of times over the last couple decades so morally i could if i believed in the bible there's
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no way i could possibly say i don't believe in the death penalty the death it is it is ridiculously clear
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but jack i'm curious because you're super catholic the catholic church is against the death penalty
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like forcefully against the death penalty it's catholic social teaching we we have we have a
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current pope who has introduced no no no no jack that's not doctrine yes or the pope it's 100
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true before the pope it was advocacy within the catholic look look charlie the catholic church
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has a lot of history involving the death penalty and if you want to go full-on 2000 years i think the
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catholic church is pretty clear that it has exercised and been for the death penalty for many many times
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in the past this is a new teaching which has arisen in the very john paul ii was against it right that's
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what i'm saying the last like say 30 30 years i'm saying i'm saying 2 000 years but he didn't change
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doctrine okay john paul ii didn't change doctrine he issued encyclicals on the death penalty which he was he
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said he was against it but he where he said he was against it based basically on the same things
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that you were just talking about but it was pope francis that has been moving to actually change
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doctrine on this uh this is also something that's been that if you go back just two or three more
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popes you would get the exact opposite on that and this is why this is in the it's in the catechism
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though and this is what what francis has done okay so that's under francis so no pope has touched
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this prior to that and you can go back to pope leo you can go back to pope pious uh where they
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were very forcefully for the death penalty based on the reasoning that uh it is the state meeting
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out your punishment for you essentially abrogating your own right to life so the state does not take
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away your right to life you through dint of your own actions at depriving another of their right to
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enjoyment of life have lost getting a little philosophical there but yes it is clearly something
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that has arisen in the later church the modern church which is something that you know that i've
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spoken out of course i'm just curious blake your pro-death penalty enthusiastically and i personally
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am proud i go up and down you're pro-capital punishment oh yeah yeah okay oh yeah i you know i think
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basically jack's summary is correct which is historically the church was tolerant of it and it is a
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relatively recent shift to being like strongly against it uh and it's always been the standard
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like you can't pursue that you can't do it for vengeance based reasons but there is a valid
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justification for the state to do it just as the state has justification for punishing other crimes you
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know as as christians were told to turn the other cheek and love our enemies and all of that but we've
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never equated that with like the government for example is not allowed to punish criminals that
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like all of society must collectively an administration of justice exactly it's temporal justice versus
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eternal and judgment i think in many other contexts you know we tolerate this which is you know when we
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wage a war as long as the war is just like we do accept that warfare kills innocent people and even
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things like you know when the police try to use you know sometimes police use their guns to stop a
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criminal in the act or someone who's acting dangerously and that kills by standards there
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are all sorts of things that we do that on the margins uh can hurt innocent people and sometimes
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even kill innocent people and i think it's strange that we treat the death penalty as the exception to
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this especially when there are plenty of cases where the risk of anyone innocent being caught in it are
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extremely low like why can't you kill dylan roof i think like the like the the middle ground is okay
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you're a school shooter and you obviously did it capital punishment 10 weeks quick public parkland
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parkland shooter it's you know the south carolina right any one of these matt like that neither of
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them got it though is the point no i i i think that i would be more than willing to to sign on to that
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where i'm can 100 and i looked it up 190 people have been wrongly executed in the last 30 years
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it's these murky one-off like dna cases with no admission of guilt 109 i'd be very skeptical of that
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figure yeah we're i mean that's better not be for innocent people shot by no it's not it's from
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it is from it is from a place that is sympathetic against the capital punishment let's pretend it's
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half okay 80. that still makes me take pause the the government the government wrongly executing
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people can impact any every single one of us that that that that is a that's a serious thing i mean
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you look at what the way that's by definition it's irreversible right you look at the way they've
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treated gen six defendants no that that's the point though no i get what you're saying yeah that's true
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it's it is irreversible but so is again if the police use force and just accidentally kill
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someone or like when we use when we let police do car chases sometimes they'll kill people in car
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accidents different things those are irreversible those are moments of frenetic unpredictability
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the death penalty is a planned and an intentional and methodical decision right like police using
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force you have a gun being thrown at you is it a knife is it not like it's high passion high you know
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high adrenaline you could say we could say that's so dangerous that we just police are disarmed
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police can't carry i'm not making that argument well i think well i think what blake is saying
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though is liberals will make our use of force and so that it's government use of force so in that
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instance would you be okay with that police officer facing charges if they killed somebody well but if
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they murdered the person not he's saying if they killed them in the any furtherance of their duties
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for their under their duties no i mean if it's not i mean no of course not i mean if it it depends on
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is it murder is it self-defense but what if it was an innocent bystander and was it again was it
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was it the context matters show me an example right like like like six-year-old girl gets caught
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in a crossfire gets in a crossfire no that no of course not but would you charge the officer no of
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course not no because the the intention matters a lot that's the way our criminal system is built
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and that's my point it's a fun argument we should probably yeah yeah no it's it's no but i mean
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we could do a whole show on this but if a police officer pulled his car over and shot a six-year-old
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then yeah the police officer should get the death penalty right like that's that's the way that a
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functioning well right but then it comes down to the government the legitimate use of government
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force no the question is what kind of force and in what context are you happy with it if it's by a
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jury of your peers methodically done and it's basically irrefutable school shooter admission
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of guilt then the threshold i think can be understandably reached where it's like okay
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kill the guy i just want to know i just want to know why the boston bomber is still breathing it's a
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little bit in the weeds sorry okay let's try to get to a couple more so i just wanted to quickly
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thank you charlie for uh just starting turning point i'm extremely grateful to be a part of this
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organization i'm sure everybody else here is um so my question i had write it down because i didn't want
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to forget um so given the polarization that we continue to see in this country i'm curious if you
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have considered a discussion with someone who's reasonable on the left um there's a political
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commentator has been on lex friedman and tim pool he's called destiny yeah i've heard about him and
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i was just wondering if you were had ever thought about having a discussion just not even really a
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debate but a discussion with someone you've talked to him haven't you john i i have a couple times
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yeah i've done a few um i guess you would say forums they're called uh better discourse events
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and destiny no look for as as as uh as much as people get on the right get upset at destiny i've
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always said that i think it's great that destiny is willing to sit down and have those discussions
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uh he and i have gone to blows we got into it over the intelligence community once a couple years ago
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we got into it over the hunter biden laptop a couple just a couple months ago which where i totally
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schooled him and but no i've always appreciated that he's been willing as a guy nominally on the left
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to just sit down because there's so many people who refuse to do anything like that anymore
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i'd be happy to talk to him i mean i've i've debated sam cedar to hassan piker to uh vish
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what's his name vosh vows yeah whatever uh so i mean i'll debate almost anyone anytime in good
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faith and i've done it before i'll do it again but charlie who would you box that's what we really
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want to know yeah who would you box on the left probably all of them hassan would be tough hassan
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no hassan is sam hyde he's what hassan is going up against sam hyde sam hyde called him out
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oh is that right i don't know i'm not much i'm not much of a boxing type so all right next one thank
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you hi my name is leo kennett i'm from the wonderful state of iowa thank you very much charlie
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thank you oh the corn farmer i am destroying your economy yes he's been lying in wait so at my school
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um we have some very liberal teachers um one of them i wore a let's go brandon sweater with trump
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and it was like a christmas sweater so he's wearing a like a christmas hat anyways um my
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spanish teacher pulled me out of class and said this is very disrespectful if you ever wear this
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again that's a detention and she actually kicked me out of spanish for that so i don't know why um
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luckily i didn't have to deal with her anymore um but i also had another teacher um that you know i was
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asking hey would you like to sponsor our turning point club she was like hell no i hate governor reynolds
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no and i just want to get your position on um should teachers be allowed to discuss their um point
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of politics and whether if they're liberal or conservative james you've done a lot of research
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on this i mean they very clearly discuss their politics this is a position that is formally known
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as liberating tolerance which is a big word salad phrase that means that their policies aren't
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considered politics and yours are and politics aren't allowed under that weird definition um kind
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of like their people are considered people and yours aren't um under their weird definition they're
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they're just pushing respect james yeah yeah i buy that for sure um i think we actually kind of talked
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about this a little bit earlier was that you know like blake said that everybody should be treated
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ideally everybody should be treated equally what we see happening is obviously that that's not happening
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that the teachers believe that they are just teaching respect and that you are representing
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hate and so this is a very challenging space to be in and you are in fact uh disenfranchised in your own
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great state of iowa by the way iowa is one of the few states that i got yelled at and jeered at
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when i visited so i know you have some very liberal uh professionals in your state and um i sympathize
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with you for that but what you actually what you have to do is you have to understand that there is a
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bias here and every time they exercise this bias on you it becomes an opportunity to point out
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you're exercising bias against me that's the thing you say that you're against they don't care about
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the hypocrisy but other people will other people will start to realize if you talk about it enough
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that's you know obviously biased that's not fair uh a friend of mine his name is chris elston he goes
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by billboard chris you may have seen him on social media where signs that say things like
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very controversial statements like children cannot consent to puberty blockers and he goes out in the
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streets and the left gets very upset with him for this in canada they've actually physically
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assaulted him they broke his arm one time the cops will tend to watch and laugh or turn and pretend they
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didn't see anything and ignore so he has this exact same thing and if he gets put to it and asks why
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aren't you doing anything they'll say your sign is provoking violence and so this is the environment
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unfortunately luckily it's better in the us but this is the environment that we live in and chris i
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would urge you to go check him out it's billboard chris on social media um you can find him pretty
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easily he's very very good at handling this and channeling when that happens into productive action that
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gets people's attention uh whether it's locally or more broadly right and i suggest you do that all
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right thank you man we'll try to get to just a couple more let's blitz through these and then we're
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already over time so i'm from turning point unl where the nebraska corn huskers sorry charlie corn
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um i just wanted to see your guys's thoughts on the current federal reserve system and the u.s
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monetary policy as a whole yeah i mean i think the fed should be abolished uh and it never should have
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been created it's an unconstitutional um andrew jackson was right huh andrew jackson was right
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andrew jackson's right ron paul was right it's an unconstitutional thing there every one of you are poor
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day by day before you even get in the ball game because of a cartel of criminals that are running
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our currency system it's an illegally chartered i believe unconstitutional project i can go in and
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into it it's not going to happen so you have to take you have to take authority and responsibility
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for your own money and that means you know i personally invest in stable things that actually
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appreciate uh in value and try to get rid of my dollar bills as quickly as possible into things that
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are actually hopefully going to last um like bullets and land and gold and silver and the right
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the proper cryptocurrencies i'm not here to give you investment advice you guys can disagree and then
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buying stock certificates and companies that i think are actually going to last long term so look
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the fed should be abolished isn't it amazing that that our audience applauds when you say you're
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going to abolish the fed that's how enlightened our students are the fed has made every one of you 90
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poorer than you should be over the last 50 years are we going to get to talk about the titanic now
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we we already you know you see it all began in 1913
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jp morgan planned the whole thing jp morgan put that iceberg there
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thank you let's get the next question jackal island baby all right uh my name is colin that's with two l's
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uh i'm also from nebraska so i am a corn husker of art everyone charlie's taking it on the chin no i'm
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not i just bully charlie fully him fully him this is a kind of a you'll be happier this is kind of a
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fun question but it's all four of you but i assume all of you guys work out i'm just curious uh how much
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do you guys bench blake you first no i'm going last okay i know james can bench more than i can can
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can i i don't know we should find out we could do it a long time i don't know i haven't done
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i obviously haven't done a flat bench in a while i've mostly been focusing on on yeah on incline lately
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um because i think you get i think you get back faster gains caught with an incline bench so i
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wouldn't even be able to tell you what my one rm is right now for what's your three rep max on
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incline on the incline through it i haven't maxed out in forever i mean i'm i know right no i know
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i know no just being honest i'm just being honest okay guys i know my guys all get weird okay i can
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do i haven't done a one rep max i can do 230 times five is a bench press that's impressive i can't do
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that no i'm like you go all right all right wow yeah less than that like 225 three or four times so
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if you if you haven't been like 15 years my lifetime i'll put it this way and this is what i've always
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stuck to my father always taught me this is you should be able to bend your body weight you should
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be able to bench your body weight and i've always been able to my entire life there you go thank you
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which was pretty impressive during that the more important question is how many pull-ups
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pull-ups are the true i know right and yeah i can do 10 pull-ups and i weigh 225 so that's a lot to pull
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up there you go and blake is single so um by the way no he is blake is single he has an iq of 183
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he speaks four different languages and can bench 235 times five times five times and that beard
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folks that beard bully blake yeah he's on he's on he's on only farm he's on farmers only for my
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only corn and he only eats corn he's a corn husker too yes all right all right one or two one or two
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more my name is matt uh i'm from iowa state university where we have better corn than the huskers and the
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hawkeyes uh-oh uh-oh um yeah you might have to sign me up to be a teacher for that uh school of
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bullying james um yeah charlie loves that but anyway my dream is to eventually own a unwoke sports
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broadcasting company to dethrone espn as the worldwide leader in sports charlie you over the last 11 years
01:41:38.460
have experience building a company from nothing to all of this what are how do you go from the ground
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up to this that's that's a great question uh first you have to dominate something small so if you want
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to create something really big you have to dominate either a locality a genre or a niche every successful
01:42:02.220
company was able to be very successful first at something very specific right whether it be apple
01:42:09.500
or microsoft starbucks home depot the the the big thing you see is not what started like with turning
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point we have tpsfa turning point academy turning point production turning point media you know professor
01:42:20.540
watch list school board watch list high school chapters college chapters turning point action
01:42:23.820
precinct committee project turning point pack charlie kirk show thought crimes started with one thing
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i drove to college campus after college campus begging kids not to become commies and i got good
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at it right and had no money no connections no idea what i was doing but i had a ton of energy but i was
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focused on one thing and then i was like okay in order to do that one thing then i need to get you know
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good at raising money and built a small team but so if you if you have a big vision you have to just think
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really really small and be and then once you have that small thing and you dominate then you can start
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to scale right when people say they want to start a national business i say first why don't you
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become the number one pretzel shop or coffee shop in your city like win your city first and then you
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can open up a store across town and then across the state then you can go regional that's exactly
01:43:13.260
what starbucks did starbucks started as one coffee shop in downtown seattle chipotle started as one
01:43:18.460
restaurant in downtown denver right mcdonald started as one restaurant by ray crock in suburban chicago
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and so people think you want to have that kind of big you know vision that big thing but you
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want to start there then you have to want it more than your competition and then when your back's
01:43:33.820
against the wall and you want to give up you're going to have to want to continue because it will
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happen um and expect to lose most of your friends get sued um make no money for five to six years
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sleep five hours a night for almost every single night lose all of your savings for just a chance to
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maybe be moderately successful all right thank you remember the uh last bible verse that we talked
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about when we got off the plane in san diego charlie what we were talking about which one was it which
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which oh uh you asked me what my favorite part of the bible is no i don't remember what you said the
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parable of the talents yes that's exactly right he gave you the modern version the parent the parable
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of the talents is uh equally applicable do do what do what will you do with what god has given you okay
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this will be the last question wow uh don't worry i care more care more about conservatism and then
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corn so you're good with me a lot of serving got a lot of corn apologists here my name is gabe i'm
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from kentucky uh sadly i don't really have a big question but i would like you to maybe weigh in on
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what i have to say uh so i'm going to go back to what you were talking about way earlier in the program
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about the administrative uh state and our institutions that are turning against us like
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the fbi cia the list goes on of course um and i go back to our founders what they had to say about
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it in the declaration of independence grievance number 10 against the king of course was he erected
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a multitude of offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their
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substance is there anything that you guys would like to add to that and i want to say i really love
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you and you guys are such inspiration so all of us the young lady behind you will get the final
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question because you didn't have a question because but i will answer whatever it was james you have a
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comment on that anybody have a comment on on that jack i think we we when we teach the declaration we um
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and look you know and i i work for humanevents.com and right there when in the course of human events
01:45:25.900
but i think we take we teach the declaration and we skip over the grievances and i think we need to
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teach those as well i'll just say all this equity crap came up in the administrative state apparatus
01:45:37.900
i mean if you follow it there's a book written by this weird game with a guy with a weird name dwight
01:45:41.980
waldo in 1948 and there are five maybe one or the other and it's called the administrative state you can
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look it up and see what they thought about it and he hosted this huge conference and it's called the
01:45:52.220
minnow brook conference in 1968 they held the minnow brook conference and a guy named george frederickson
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was there and they laid out the idea that um it's not enough for public administration to be thinking
01:46:02.780
about the two e's of efficiency and economy they also need to think of the third e which is equity
01:46:09.500
which is adjusting shares so citizens are made equal so if you want to know why our society is
01:46:13.740
lurching into communism the administrative state has an awful lot to do with that so i applaud you for
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bringing that up tonight cool all right you have a question though my friend i do all right you're the
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last question then my name is delaney i'm from uh capitol university we're about 15 minutes away
01:46:29.980
from osu um i volunteered at the live free tour um i had a question this was well it kind of has a
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background to it but um my school has a professor named clint jones and he is an ethics professor
01:46:44.780
we're technically a luthan university but we're very much not and he's in the department of religion
01:46:50.220
and philosophy um and early january he put on this um presentation about love thy neighbor as thyself
01:46:59.820
masturbation homoeroticism and queer love in the life of jesus christ i'm sorry that was really
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like off the wall but um sorry i did not see that coming yeah no i'm so sorry i was like prepping the
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people behind me in front of me in line i was like prepping everyone in line i was like i'm so
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sorry um but charlie earlier today you were talking about um how you don't believe in really like
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choosing your battles which i really do respect um do you think that with a professor like this who is
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so confident in his beliefs that he's willing to put a presentation on and force his students to go
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my roommate had to go unless she would want a failing grade in her class she didn't go um but
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her alternative assignment was to write a seven page paper about why jesus was gay so didn't really
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work out either way um but do you believe that finding a professor who is so confident in his beliefs
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will like reap any benefits or is he just going to get more i mean he backed it up with scripture
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which is obviously flawed but yeah i mean what what's what what scripture is he what is he i didn't go he
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says jesus is gay that's that's his scripture yeah he how about how about the leviticus verse of thou
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shall not lay with another man like i have no idea and by the way punishable by death in the old
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testament um so that's that's really rich um so what he's saying so the i'm happy to dive in the theology
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of it which is not your question but what should you do basically here here's what i would here's my
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my encouragement right is that try to find somebody i mean if i have time i'll do it but
01:48:34.380
try to find somebody to challenge these people they never want to debate and james will tell you why
01:48:38.380
they want to groom and they want to find people that can't intellectually defend their positions
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you know i i spoke at arizona state university with dennis prager and 35 professors signed an open
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letter saying that i should not be allowed on campus none of them wanted to talk to me none of
01:48:53.820
they refuse to ever have dialogue with us because it is a threat to them james why is that why don't
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they want to debate you yes well i mean there's the easy answers because they don't um believe they
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know that their ideas don't have justification so they have to have to assert them and if they're
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challenged it threatens them blah blah blah but within their own kind of line of thought the reason is
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that to debate somebody is to platform the other alternative and thus to give it voice and thus to become
01:49:17.980
complicit in the evil but uh that's less much less interesting to me than i think what you should
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do these things actually tend to work out but you have to to have a little bit of courage um these
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are the kinds of stories that if they are properly packaged and put out into the world go viral big
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time these are the kinds of stories that end up landing in an appellate court and getting a school
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in an awful lot of trouble because first amendment rights protect people from being subjected to
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having to write what they would consider blasphemy um this has happened at least as when it's a
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condition of employment i know with professors uh for example the case of merriweather versus shawnee state
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but uh it's entirely possible that it could follow for a student who had to do this for a grade
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so i would encourage people and i know you're young and i know this isn't exactly something you
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want to hear and it does take a lot of courage it's not easy but in cases like this you have to be kind of
01:50:09.580
willing not to go necessarily full james o'keefe but to expose these things to get that citizen
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journalism out and or and i say that very much with the slash there because it might be both and it
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might not you may have to be more prudent in how you approach it you may have to start thinking this
01:50:25.020
is the bravery part by the way it's not hard to convince a 20 something year old to try to go viral
01:50:29.180
on the internet it is hard to convince them to be think of themselves as a potential plaintiff
01:50:33.820
in a lawsuit and to seek out a law firm like you know alliance defending freedom or whatever and
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try to see if you have a legal case or if your friend has a legal case for what they were put
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through being forced to do this for a grade and to be willing to do this if people aren't injured
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there's no lawsuit but the way that we're ultimately going to beat woke and preserve our society
01:50:52.860
is by suing while the law is still something that can be on our side so i strongly encourage you to
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think if you think you're being discriminated against you may have to think that you have
01:51:04.700
a lawsuit potential and reach out to some of these firms that are they often show up at these
01:51:09.500
conservative things so you can kind of figure out who they are and see if they will take a case if
01:51:14.060
you're a student probably pro bono reach out to fire the foundation for individual rights and education
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see what they do there they will send letters and the schools will back off and sometimes do damages
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or try to settle out of court or all kinds of things but if you don't slap them the left
01:51:28.460
consistently will break the law until you tell them they can't anymore and they will get away
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with it and get away with it and get away with it and just keep marching forward so somebody who's
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being discriminated against and it might be you and it's a big thing to ask so think about it has to
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be willing to take up the lawsuit and i strongly encourage people to be willing to consider that
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when they are being uh discriminated against or something like this what i would say just briefly is
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also it is it is high stakes there there is possible consequences to it but at the same time
01:52:03.260
it is lower than the consequences to standing up to something will often be in real life
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like this person is threatening people with you know a failing grade uh one of many classes they can
01:52:13.820
possibly take at this school whereas you know you'll face people who will boss you around and try to
01:52:19.820
do bad stuff where you have to face losing your job and you might have a spouse you might have children
01:52:24.700
like you have a lot to lose and it probably is better to at least get the training in standing
01:52:31.180
up to things while it is lower stakes and that is what college actually is even though it feels
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very high stakes a lot of the time it is it is a training ground for life yes when charlie was
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speaking earlier i thought there are basically two paths and you have to judge your temperament either
01:52:46.700
you consistently stand up like he all urged you to do very very well very well as a matter of fact
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and you you do it that way or you realize we're going to need investigative journalists that are
01:52:58.060
digging in and understanding this thing we're going to need lawyers who understand the left's misuses of
01:53:02.460
the law and abuses of the law so they can make sure that constitutional law protects us from those and so
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you go in as kind of an upside down investigator um if you participate though in order to not get
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brainwashed you have to be studying the brainwashing that they're doing and using it for some other
01:53:18.060
purpose to expose them or defeat them later so always think about that if you're going to take
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the kind of uh fight road then fight and fight with everything you have teddy roosevelt said if it's
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gentlemanly possible not to hit then you should not hit but if you must hit never hit soft and you
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should keep that in mind it's my second favorite presidential quote on the other hand if you get
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inside you go all the way and you expose them sorry charlie no you're good you got another point
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i'm out of points unless you want to hear my first favorite jack any closing thoughts
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i just want to say thanks to everybody for coming out tonight appreciate this making this one of i
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think our number one episode of thought crime that we have held so far it's also our very first
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live episode so i'd like to say thank you to our first ever live select live audience
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this has been awesome thank you to charlie for setting it up download the public square app
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and download the rumble app we'll see you tomorrow james lindsey and i are going to be on stage at
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the chapter leadership summit tomorrow we'll be taking questions talking queer theory wokeism
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the need to stand crt all that good stuff god bless you guys see you at home later and see you guys
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tomorrow here at the chapter leadership summit thank you guys