Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 22, 2024


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 50 — Draft Our Daughters? The Ten Commandments? What's Your Phobia?


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On this week's episode of Thought Crime, the gang talks about low propensity vs. high propensity voters, women in the military, rat boys, and phobias. And we have a really extended discussion about fear.

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00:00:00.000 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to this week's edition of thought crime on this week's episode
00:00:05.540 myself charlie and the gang talk about low propensity versus high propensity voters we
00:00:11.260 then talk about women in the military rat boys yes i know rat boys hot or not and then a really 0.65
00:00:17.920 extended discussion about phobias what things do we have phobias of really interesting you guys
00:00:25.260 they're going to like this and remember go out there and commit more thought crime from the age
00:00:30.800 of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically targets the communications
00:00:37.400 of everyone they're collecting your communications
00:00:40.620 okay everybody uh hello it is book launch week oh wait no it's thought crime but it's still book
00:00:53.900 launch week and uh right wing revolution uh blake you helped with the book thank you
00:00:58.560 great inspiration and researcher and tactician of the book and you're you're in the acknowledgments
00:01:04.260 yes i am it's nice how you doing blake i'm doing so how is book launch week for you you've been
00:01:08.240 working really hard oh it's great we like we're having to like go through like it's kind of funny
00:01:12.320 because a lot of the text of the book was completed a little while ago and now we're like oh we kind
00:01:16.440 of let's actually go back dig out stuff yeah and it's like oh wow this is applicable this is yeah
00:01:21.060 i mean like the i think we're drawing a lot out of the chapter that's basically like you know
00:01:25.480 you can hate the rules but play by the rules that's been the most quoted chapter yeah and
00:01:30.020 you know we made that ages ago and it almost like it just happens that not only like it you know it
00:01:35.480 came out the week that's the big point of emphasis due to detroit and everything chase the vote it really
00:01:40.060 worked out uh tyler you've been uh training ballot chasers all week in wisconsin yeah i am here to get
00:01:46.220 a signed copy of your book from blake from blake yeah i want a nice sign charlie kirk blake you get
00:01:54.160 to blake do you want to sign that as blake neff or as charlie kirk either one okay all right no as
00:01:59.980 blake neff of course oh okay all right all right we had to protect blake from all the uh uh all the
00:02:06.220 protesters uh in michigan so i thought he had some fans both sides both sides were attacking that's a
00:02:13.300 possible blake was getting attacked by both sides of the protesters thank you thank you for this
00:02:19.660 and then we have the legendary jack pasobo who also has a book coming out but it's still at pre-order
00:02:26.000 so we're not going to promote it heavily yet but uh jack we had a great podcast in detroit we had a
00:02:30.080 great podcast we had an excellent podcast in detroit on on humans the secret history about communist
00:02:36.700 revolutions and how to crush them and fun fact my book also includes blake neff in the acknowledgements
00:02:44.240 because blake uh did a lot of work helping with the research for the podcasts that we later turned
00:02:51.060 into the book and so you know what i noticed actually though tyler when i got up close is that
00:02:56.880 what we thought or initially one of the crowds that we thought was protesting blake was actually
00:03:01.660 hordes of young men who were chasing him down the street screaming his name and asking for his hotel
00:03:07.420 room it was really strange so i don't i don't really know i don't really know how that one turned out
00:03:11.620 i think we can all agree i should just be acknowledged in every book yeah every book yes that's right
00:03:16.380 including fauci's memoir yeah exactly i would like to acknowledge which is out this week by the way
00:03:21.340 fauci's memoir is out it should say special thanks to blake neff for making the vaccine and the
00:03:27.780 lockdowns possible blake actually was behind the vaccine just so everybody knows that's right blake 1.00
00:03:32.720 was the chief scientist at pfizer he was also the guinea pig for all the vaccines they tested
00:03:37.940 every single one of them on blake which explains a lot and they tested the original virus on me and i
00:03:42.620 designed the original virus before injected it into myself he is the most interesting man in the world
00:03:47.180 he is the super that's also why blake can speak to bats he also has the power of echolocation
00:03:52.960 so uh blake you were saying i want to talk about low prop high prop what were we talking about here
00:03:57.660 something with your friend you have a profit yeah yeah so just before uh the show went live we were
00:04:01.660 talking about the big topic this week and what we've been talking about lately low propensity voters
00:04:06.360 trump is doing better with voters who normally don't turn out as much which is a big change from
00:04:12.260 the past uh 15 years ago it was all that democrats had the advantage with every low propensity group
00:04:18.220 the young immigrants people who don't speak english non-white voters all of that and there's been been 0.55
00:04:24.080 this big shift the polls now say you know if you've voted in every primary and every general election
00:04:29.920 for the last five years you are going to be favoring biden by a good five six points according to some
00:04:36.600 polls but if you've only voted sometimes you're about 50 50 and if you're a unlikely voter like if
00:04:43.100 you skipped the 2020 election those people tell the polls they favor trump by like 15 points at this
00:04:49.100 point uh so i have a friend who i don't want to name him but he's always been my kind of uh
00:04:55.600 bs detector sage predictor uh he's really good on china stuff he always tells me stuff about china
00:05:01.840 that sounds insane and it goes against what everything else and it's true says and then i
00:05:05.180 find out like three years later oh oh he was completely right about this uh and then he's also
00:05:10.060 good at election stuff i remember him it's like summer 2015 trump's just entered the race we're getting
00:05:17.760 the first polls about it and we're getting those polls which say do you remember early when trump
00:05:23.200 was running and they'll say like oh this new poll shows trump is only up by three points in
00:05:27.620 mississippi he'd be a disastrous one and he would share this with me and he'd say the thing is blake
00:05:31.920 is i believe this poll and it's actually good news because the national polls say you know trump's only
00:05:37.920 going to lose to hillary by like three points and so if he's this close in mississippi but still only 0.96
00:05:44.460 losing by three points nationally that means that he's going to do way better in the decisive swing
00:05:51.640 states so he charted out the exact map that would lead so what does he say now so what he says is
00:05:56.800 basically he thinks that people are underappreciating the chance that there's actually still a polling
00:06:02.620 error like in trump's favor and i think this could be right yeah and also he's putting a lot of
00:06:08.600 importance on next week's debate he says if biden does well it becomes about a 50 50 election
00:06:13.900 but if biden does badly like he could be on chart for a jimmy carter 1980 level so wipe out yeah so
00:06:21.460 here's my and tyler i want to get on this early because this is my i have two concerns is that
00:06:26.340 if we are we are trading right now horse trading and it's not a permanent trade because we can get
00:06:31.820 them back we're trading high prop voters for low prop voters now this is why polling could be
00:06:36.880 underestimating trump's support is that for example i walked the streets of scottsdale i personally
00:06:42.220 registered dozens of voters in scottsdale i'm like always messaging you guys yes and no one is
00:06:47.200 polling these guys and i could tell you the democrats are not in the data or anecdotally
00:06:51.940 they're not getting those uptick grassroots see new registrations right tyler we're seeing that not
00:06:56.640 in the data at all in arizona so trump gets a at least a point lift from those types of folks
00:07:01.500 tyler should we be concerned though that baby boomers and older voters are going more in biden's
00:07:06.920 direction younger voters blacks hispanics in our direction and we're trading higher props for lower 0.99
00:07:12.020 props yeah i think that's the biggest concern is that we look at how things are looking for us
00:07:17.580 and we are in a really good place because the democrats maximized their uptick as you're as
00:07:25.240 you're referencing it yes in 2020 the floydapalooza because in arizona in one summer they had like a net
00:07:31.700 75 000 voter increase like they closed the voter registration gap by 75 000 voters right
00:07:38.360 significantly arizona was up it always historically has been up at least since like the 80s well no we
00:07:43.980 still had an advantage but we went down to like only 100 000 votes it is the closest that we've ever
00:07:47.860 been and now it's 240 and they and they they invested a ton of money into voter registration to
00:07:52.700 get as many people but not now again but no they haven't the uptick is over that we haven't seen an
00:07:57.240 increase there hasn't been investment made and they've lost ground and if you get if you're not
00:08:01.580 seeing investment voter registration what does that mean that means they don't want as many voters
00:08:04.600 to turn out well it means that there's not yeah exactly there's not going to be as many as much
00:08:08.180 investment made into ballot chasing on their end however yeah but trump forgives some of the sins
00:08:13.140 on our side because we don't have an apparatus because a little bit of a machine can forgive because
00:08:19.120 he's so loved and there's such an organic push that if we have a little bit of ballot chase we can
00:08:26.140 force multiply that i think the only angle is exactly what you said for the left which is
00:08:31.480 try to pick off as many older old voters who vote in huge numbers who vote historically in huge numbers
00:08:38.180 and you know they're dropped there's some drop off on olders because we you know baby boomers are 1.00
00:08:43.920 starting to pass away uh and so you have this this era now you have very few silent generation
00:08:50.540 generation almost gone we have a silent generation president but you have a very few
00:08:55.460 outside of him that are active and and so they have to chase every single member of the silent
00:09:00.820 generation they've got our side is going to have some dip off with silent generation because what
00:09:05.920 happens naturally when you get old you forget to vote you don't show up or somebody steals your
00:09:12.460 ballot in a nursing home someone else takes your ballot for you votes on your behalf you pass your
00:09:17.760 spouse passes away that helped you vote uh your kids no longer are prioritizing you voting so this is
00:09:25.400 the one thing that we're telling people that have family that are older baby boomers and silent 0.99
00:09:29.480 generation parents make sure you're helping your parents vote yeah that's right make sure you're
00:09:34.540 doing and do so legally but and don't let the nurses help them that's exactly right you can you can be an
00:09:40.480 assist as a family member you're allowed to help fill in their ballot for them right in almost every
00:09:44.340 state you can legally assist your family member uh as long as you're the caretaker and uh the person
00:09:50.980 that's in charge of that so so so i just want to get jack in on this in a second but just so we're
00:09:55.560 clear though and blake you made this point there's there's two simultaneous strategies to bring bases
00:10:01.060 home right now biden is going to philadelphia to bring blacks home to the democrat party and trump is
00:10:06.780 going to start going to bingo nights and pink pickleball courts to bring home boomers to the republican 0.99
00:10:11.980 party which is more likely to happen oh that's a hard one that's a hard one
00:10:19.260 i think boomers when all is said and done here's my theory once we have convention and we are ubiquitous
00:10:27.940 blanket tv coverage once we are on parody with tv ads which will happen based on miri madelson and these
00:10:33.600 other super PACs and once we are able to like cancel out their white noise because the biden ads are all
00:10:38.800 over all the old people channels right now lifetime cnn hln it's non it's full blanket coverage
00:10:44.060 you say tv doesn't matter i disagree i think it matters a lot when you are not present before so
00:10:49.520 i'll say this shortly and then we'll have jack come in the thought i had is i'll bet old boomer voters
00:10:55.660 are the ones who probably do feel a bit scandalized that trump got convicted 100 that's so bad for our
00:11:02.100 democracy but they'll get over that will wane yes and so i'm saying boomers are probably right now i think
00:11:08.020 they're out of what's easy i think blacks actually might go back to democrats in higher numbers than
00:11:13.140 we might realize i think however blacks don't vote in the same numbers as boomers and it's just they 1.00
00:11:18.780 have lower turnout and so i would rather be us than them let me be very clear i would rather have to
00:11:23.300 bring boomers home than have to go bring disaffected black voters home right because i mean boomers are 0.59
00:11:30.200 more conservative it should be easier for the trump campaign to bring boomers home that's the last missing 1.00
00:11:36.160 piece i'm just saying right now in june of 2024 if we win boomers by 15 points which every republican
00:11:42.600 has done mitt romney won boomers by like 25 points just to be clear like he crushed with boomers and
00:11:48.840 lost everybody else we should win jack what are your thoughts here again i'm not here to criticize
00:11:52.840 boomers and all this i'm just saying this is a missing piece and and it is a fear biden could
00:11:58.320 overperform the polls if we are trading too many high props for low props yeah charlie so when when
00:12:05.340 people are saying you know character matters decency matters these things matter that's
00:12:12.300 specifically the demographic that biden is talking to he's speaking to those older voters who remember
00:12:19.640 an america in the before time who remember america uh they came of age in the 1950s they came of age in
00:12:26.140 the 1960s they remember the america and by and large believe that this still is that country that can be
00:12:32.320 all things to all people at all times like when when joe biden said when they asked him i remember
00:12:36.940 they asked him one time about you know can america afford to fight wars in ukraine and china so you
00:12:43.220 know europe and asia at the same time and he says this united states of america we we could do anything
00:12:48.140 like he actually believes that he actually believes that we just have this overabundance of all things
00:12:54.300 because that's the america he by you know by the way he's actually older than baby boomer as you were
00:12:59.860 saying but that's still his set frame for america and so for a lot of these like your your normie
00:13:06.780 liberal tv only watching baby boomer types out there they're totally locked into that frame now 0.74
00:13:13.700 there are ways by the way to reach back out to them and of course most of them involve showing
00:13:19.320 that america's standing in the world has been completely degraded under joe biden and also by the
00:13:24.680 way the saying that social security is going to be insolvent under joe biden there's a number of ways
00:13:27.940 he can do these things to say that biden is ruining our image of america and by the way
00:13:31.840 directly comparing and trump needs to do this in the debate so i know that we're not you know talking
00:13:36.460 debates but one way to accomplish this at the debates is for trump to directly compare him to
00:13:42.580 jimmy carter if he's able to do that and do so successfully maybe throughout some facts and figures
00:13:47.580 about the stagflation being where it is then you can start to make that argument but you know you
00:13:52.900 mentioned biden going to philly but i would also point out that donald trump is making his own
00:13:58.640 visit to philadelphia this saturday night 1776 north broad street at the leah core center of temple
00:14:06.800 university i love that i can tell you charlie this guy the former temple college republican chairman
00:14:13.320 from 20 years ago is going to be right there with i love that however and i love the offense going into
00:14:19.320 the urban areas and all that but blake shouldn't donald trump maybe stop by a nursing home on his
00:14:23.660 way there i'm not kidding no no i mean he should probably stop by a senior citizen center i mean
00:14:28.840 there's plenty of them that's not a i mean he's got to do some boomer outreach here or just in general
00:14:33.360 don't ignore the fact like there is that heartland that loves trump make sure you do hit those areas
00:14:38.980 well he's gonna do that he's gonna go to the rules i'm convinced that's something if that's a
00:14:43.020 separate issue insane schedule in 2016 i'd love to see that so rurals all chasing just fyi so we look at
00:14:48.940 there's some places in wisconsin for example where the the republican turnout so low in the rurals
00:14:54.900 it's it's you should lose your status as a state within the within the union for that type of
00:15:02.040 turnout it just is so bad how bad is it like places where they like murder and bury people and like uh
00:15:08.020 like like where like like dumps like what was that whole like uh to catch a murderer or whatever
00:15:13.660 thing that was the guy that got thrown in jail in wisconsin you know making a murderer making a
00:15:18.440 yeah yeah that guy yeah i didn't watch that show middle of nowhere places in wisconsin
00:15:23.280 their their turnout is like sub 60 percent 50 percent in the presidential it's of registered
00:15:30.800 voters or of citizens of registered voters that's really bad of citizens it's like in like probably
00:15:36.280 like less than 20 percent so so if you just chase people in the rurals you'll win so this is where
00:15:42.880 ballot chasing comes in this is where the culture chasing comes in for the republican party it has to
00:15:47.580 happen but to your point charlie is the seniors matter so much because there's tons of senior
00:15:54.420 communities that are in the suburbs so when you have this crossover between you already don't do as
00:16:00.320 well with women right we know that it's whatever it's overplayed men we overperform and we're
00:16:05.620 overperforming now in the suburbs and that's great but when you have this situation where there's
00:16:10.540 old suburbanites that are there in these senior homes those are the places so let's look at 1.00
00:16:15.700 arizona for example in mesa why is mesa doing so bad it's not just the moms it's not just the moms
00:16:21.980 you mesa is a historic in apache junction historic retirement community you have red mountain that
00:16:29.000 whole area lucendas that's out there you have places like apache junction where you have snowbirds
00:16:34.500 that come in they're registered to arizona now they golf they live in their homes and they fly back
00:16:40.120 you know for the summertime to the midwest they come back here or canada or wherever wherever they
00:16:45.360 come from they got dual citizenship this is a real problem for for you know donald trump for the
00:16:51.920 reasons that you said we have to win back the suburban boomer well it just yeah i think it's doable
00:16:57.500 though i hear when i think of the disaffected boomer not disaffected or the one that's tilting to
00:17:02.160 biden i think of the work that we did in florida now hear me out there was a time let's just go back
00:17:10.320 this is why boomers are movable guys in june of 2020 trump was doing really bad with boomers think
00:17:16.200 about it that was during covid that was during all the hysteria that you're gonna die from the virus
00:17:21.220 and trump put in the work for a couple months did a crazy schedule and did much better with boomers so
00:17:26.180 i think it is very movable um i just i don't want us to get too high on our own supply here
00:17:32.240 because we could all of a sudden be going into election day well we'll know during voting month
00:17:36.500 because we're going to be doing our job during voting month right so that's the difference we
00:17:39.860 could be going into voting month though and be like oh we're crushing with younger voters we're
00:17:43.640 crushing with hispanics and all of a sudden like that day of vote of people that vote on election day 1.00
00:17:48.220 tyler what would happen if we only won 60 of day of votes in arizona
00:17:52.100 yeah i mean we've got to win a lot more than that we've got i'm saying that what if the boomers who
00:17:57.400 vote on election day like underperform for us that's right that we're we've got to win a lot
00:18:02.240 more than that i mean we right now are what if we do every piece we chase hispanics we chase blacks 0.77
00:18:07.160 we chase younger voters like we overperform at asu we overperform at nau and the day of and then it
00:18:12.800 like rains and the guy's just like ah they don't need me and he just stays or even worse just like all
00:18:17.480 of a sudden in the west valley a bunch of like 85 year olds that vote on election day like i'm going for
00:18:21.400 biden and like we used to run up the score in those areas or rfk biden's getting it done so but
00:18:27.240 i i i believe we need project boomer we need to run more tv ads i'm telling you we have to get
00:18:32.880 more tv ads well this is why organizations like we had so present at in detroit like amac
00:18:38.100 are so are like the most important thing you know what's crazy and i don't the press hasn't given us
00:18:42.740 any credit like the youth vote is up for grabs and the boomer vote is now like a catastrophe not a
00:18:48.940 catastrophe but it's like not where it should be it's it's the scariest element maybe it's the
00:18:53.960 organization that's been focused on it like obsessed for 12 years now my my prophet friend does say
00:18:58.840 don't look too close at the uh cross tabs he says especially on a lot of these subgroups they're
00:19:04.740 just they end up being so tiny like it's very difficult to get like black men to respond to 1.00
00:19:09.780 a lot of these boomers are not so you have a crosstab of like 20 guys and some of these subgroups but
00:19:13.760 boomers are not tiny for sure for sure but maybe there's an issue where the boomers who are
00:19:18.980 especially likely to respond to phone polls have shifted i mean that's the theory they have every
00:19:23.380 single time these polls are debated they'll be like republicans never respond to polls ever
00:19:27.720 last thing i'll say is this is that biden the ads that biden is running are small c conservative ads
00:19:33.920 he comes across if you didn't know the party affiliation you'd be like oh this guy's a
00:19:39.000 conservative oh yeah because he's like trump is going to burn the system down and he's like i'm all
00:19:42.780 about the integrity of the institutions and i like he's a small c conservative his ads are like
00:19:48.180 indecipherable from 2012 mit romney dang no i want you to think deeply about that so they're running a
00:19:55.640 center-right advertising campaign towards boomers and it's super smart because it tends to be working 1.00
00:20:01.480 in the data now you run those towards younger voters they're like we want revolutionary change
00:20:06.160 we can't own homes everything is terrible what the heck are you talking about boomers don't like that 0.99
00:20:10.780 language though no they don't they they they do not want um like they want status quo they want um
00:20:19.680 placidity this is why the serenity this is why the fox battle with trump is so bad and damaging
00:20:25.660 in so many different ways which is just like there's an element here where it's like
00:20:30.420 i get it i totally agree i think young people love like the attacks on paul ryan there within that
00:20:36.140 the space but it's like i don't know if that's gonna be i this may be contributing a little bit
00:20:41.940 to that because every boomer you know they can't help but peel themselves but let's go a level deeper 0.57
00:20:46.800 here in the primary remember the most anti-trump part of the republican party are boomers and the
00:20:52.280 most pro-trump part of the republican party are gen x and gen z and millennials yeah if they're if you're
00:20:57.100 conservative yeah if the younger you get the more based you are the older you get the less based you are
00:21:01.420 because you're consuming content like the charlie kirk show versus totally versus yeah whatever
00:21:06.880 you're getting fed tiktoks that are based based so anyway again this is not media work there's
00:21:13.100 plenty of boomers out there that we love i've been really focused on this issue for the last couple
00:21:16.620 days blake i think rightfully so i think we're on something very powerful here right for sure and i
00:21:20.740 don't think other people by the way i had a 45 minute conversation i was on a podcast with newt
00:21:24.580 gingrich he's like charlie this is the smartest analysis he's like you're spot on you're connecting
00:21:28.220 dots for me and what he really loved and he's gonna because he's incredibly well respected newt
00:21:32.960 is someone that we should like have us he should have a great speaking role at the convention like
00:21:36.160 yes you should have like newt gingrich just like non-stop just like at 5 p.m no i mean like seriously
00:21:41.700 like he should be like center stage is a hardcore newt gingrich mark just so everybody knows hardcore
00:21:46.740 i'm a big newt fan i always have been um but i think that we also have to be willing to say okay
00:21:53.780 what names and faces like dr ben carson i would give him a like an amazing speaker this is maybe
00:21:59.740 why ben carson's a good vp nod i'm telling you it's just not gonna happen but i i know we pushed
00:22:05.660 it for a while i know ben carson would run the score with boomers yeah are you kidding me like
00:22:11.960 he is like the ideal boomer are you like ben carson would do you know why do you know why yes
00:22:20.140 i know why no no no no it's because he's a surgeon no no it's not that no i know sean hannity during
00:22:27.300 when during the peak peak ben carson sean hannity had him on his show like every other day i'm talking
00:22:34.460 like 2012 or whatever he is in bed and by the way in detroit when we just like call ben carson's name
00:22:40.800 the amount of like boomer jumping that was happening was yeah it would be yeah it's as if
00:22:47.800 we were like ladies and gentlemen for our younger audience like here's logan paul or andrew tate like
00:22:52.620 it's like ben carson president andrew tate yeah that's it but but i want everyone obsessed i want
00:23:00.100 everyone to appreciate this our problem as republicans typically here's how campaigns are run
00:23:04.640 you run a primary talking about like dropping bombs on your enemies and you know lowering taxes
00:23:11.480 you consolidate to the general and then as you get closer to the general you try to expand the
00:23:16.760 coalition with younger voters hispanics and blacks this year we win the primary and we do record well
00:23:23.000 in young young voters blacks and hispanics and the closer we get to the election we need to re-win
00:23:28.980 the previous base of the republican party trump is charged he's like vaulted over the wall he's got
00:23:34.220 the sword the enemy's running away and he turns around and like the you know the the units have
00:23:39.880 not followed he's like you guys you guys gotta come after me here i know but i will i want to
00:23:44.340 talk about one of our sponsors here and i i would rather be us than them i would rather have our project
00:23:48.820 to be people that consume a bunch of media people that watch a lot of tv because we will have parody
00:23:54.960 on tv and i think when all on set is said and done i think that a lot of boomers will be like
00:23:59.440 i might not like trump but again if you have a good convention i cannot tell you like convention for us
00:24:05.900 doesn't feel like much that is imprinted and tattooed into the psyche of so many voters it's on all
00:24:12.520 network tv it gets clipped everywhere it gets covered everywhere and if our lineup is boomer friendly
00:24:18.400 we could see a huge polling boost there the people we need to get back are the kind of people who
00:24:22.940 will want who will be assuaged by seeing the debates and the convention and be like everything's normal
00:24:28.280 everything's okay and that's the point is that the the base of the republican party right now if you
00:24:33.060 look at trump rallies by the way if you look at our audience like despite what the media said it was
00:24:36.460 very heavy gen x and like very it was like there was some boomer element but a lot of baby boomers don't
00:24:43.720 like the talk of revolution they don't like the talk of upheaval they want status quo they want
00:24:48.420 something they can count on jack you have any thoughts there look that's going to be the biggest
00:24:54.400 shift and it's honestly i i want to come back to this it needs to be understood that this is going to
00:25:01.000 be a huge part of the debates the the conservative boomers liberal boomers independent boomers whatever
00:25:07.560 you're talking about this is a heavily tv watching audience they're not necessarily the podcast audience
00:25:13.300 they're certainly not the tiktok audience uh social media yeah they're there but it's by and large
00:25:18.460 their medium is television they are going to watch this debate and the if the first debate doesn't go
00:25:24.820 well they may not watch the second and no they will there's enough that i disagree there's a lot of
00:25:29.580 space between the two i think they well there's there's you know what i'm saying you know what i'm saying
00:25:33.040 the the the the chance may not be there if the first debate doesn't go well right can i bring up
00:25:39.160 with the first debate make it a point specifically in the first debate to speak to this well jack to
00:25:45.740 that point too if more boomers are watching the tv which debate which they do which they will
00:25:52.720 the attacks on biden's mental acuity i totally agree are not going to it's not smart it's not smart
00:26:00.520 by the way it works with a younger audience they think it's insane we have a senile president totally
00:26:04.740 and we should we can clip that we already have plenty of that content plenty of it that's not the 0.98
00:26:08.960 place for the debate i think because because of the boomer audience that will probably not love that
00:26:16.180 as much that's that's really insightful i mean so what do you do then is you make that's what i'm
00:26:21.500 saying contrast him to jimmy carter don't necessarily attack his age attack his record or lack thereof
00:26:29.020 attack his disaster attack what's going on in the country attack what's going on overseas by the way
00:26:33.780 they remember america from the 1950s and 60s when we were at the height of pax americana when we were
00:26:41.780 top dog in the world they remember the the real america led where they mean something to them that
00:26:48.520 america is the leader of the free world fighting against you know at the time global communism and so
00:26:54.760 the idea that biden has ruined america's standing on the world stage i think is going to be a huge attack
00:27:01.620 line there and yeah so that's a really good point is you want to win boomers over you know what ad i
00:27:06.280 would do with all the ads afghanistan yeah i'm telling you would you agree jack yeah i think
00:27:13.400 international embarrassment is a very persuasive like that's of all the things i hear i've never
00:27:21.100 heard by the way a younger voter be like yeah the rest of the world is laughing at us but the talking
00:27:25.120 point at the bingo night is the rest of the world is laughing at us and jack and charlie yes what is
00:27:32.240 the direct connection there to jimmy carter as i was just saying go no that's very smart one
00:27:37.280 operation eagle claw the so you this is what you do with the debate you know just with the ad you and
00:27:43.500 you run this ad during the debate we're we're we're setting this up in real time here so desert one
00:27:48.800 was operation eagle claw the failed attempt to rescue american hostages from the u.s embassy in
00:27:56.040 tehran so this by the way happened in 1980 so it happens in the election year which was devastating
00:28:02.620 for carter the fact that the u.s military this is prior to jsoc this is actually kind of the reason
00:28:07.680 that jsoc was not to get too in the weeds but was created for a joint special option operations unit to
00:28:13.540 be put together that uh we sent in helicopters we sent in special forces and it was a complete
00:28:19.200 failure so i think i'm looking here april 24th the 25th 1980 massive failure massive loss of prestige
00:28:26.760 on the world stage and this set the tone for jimmy carter the rest of the election he could he could
00:28:33.180 just never be be put forward so it wasn't necessarily his age it was just the sense that he
00:28:39.040 was incompetent this is how you make the ad you tie desert one to the fall of kabul 0.78
00:28:46.140 i think that's smart okay what's our next topic well speaking of the military the other thing that
00:28:53.060 is in the uh news this week is they might add women to the selective service how daisy's getting 1.00
00:28:58.780 drafted exactly we're gonna draft our daisy and and emma so they're gonna be uh they're gonna they're
00:29:04.260 gonna be in combat fatigues they're gonna have the helmets on they're gonna be totem m force it's
00:29:10.160 gonna be great someone photoshop that for us no so we should ai it yeah this is in the uh national
00:29:15.000 defense authorization act i suspect this won't make it to the final bill but it's been in the news that
00:29:19.560 the senate has advanced a version of this in which women will register for selective service now that 1.00
00:29:26.620 is a long way from the draft but it is a fun thought experiment like as a concept are is this going to
00:29:33.100 happen eventually and i guess i think we'd probably all be all be in agreement like that this is
00:29:39.300 probably not something the country needs but i i would love to see emma shoot an m4 would you say 1.00
00:29:46.700 that again i'd love to see emma carry and shoot an m4 oh yeah absolutely we should do this so but 1.00
00:29:51.080 the the this out the more important question i mean the obvious take but the important one is that
00:29:55.720 women's have been women have been fighting for women's equality for so time so much time so wouldn't 0.99
00:29:59.340 they be thrilled about this you'd think like the feminists that are 62 in joe biden's direction 1.00
00:30:03.980 64 actually some of them would be i don't know that any i don't know that anything we're gonna
00:30:09.340 actually sign up but the ultimate like feminist owner be like no it gets in the way of my shoe 1.00
00:30:13.600 company not like it gets in the way of me like owning kid like like raising kids but it's like it
00:30:18.520 gets in the way of my corporate career what's interesting to me is it is also very theoretical and
00:30:23.140 we haven't had a draft since vietnam uh in countries where they still have the draft this
00:30:29.420 can become a very live issue so in south korea south korea is one of the only countries that has a
00:30:34.820 sex gap in voting as large as the u.s does where men are really right wing women are really left wing 1.00
00:30:39.340 and south korea also has very severe military service requirements but only for men if you are a man i think
00:30:47.120 you need to spend at least 18 months in the military before you're like 28 or 30 or some age point like
00:30:53.920 that and you don't get paid much so it's a very demanding thing you'll graduate high school as a
00:30:58.960 man in south korea you have to go do your military service for nearly two years and then then you're
00:31:04.720 allowed to go to college or start your career and this is a huge uh burden on men relative to women
00:31:09.880 and then on top of that south korea like us has all these political initiatives you know to get
00:31:14.300 women and x y and z and so it's driving this massive battle of the sexes in south korea where 1.00
00:31:19.400 the men are extremely hostile to the women not having to do the selective service so i think it's
00:31:24.700 funny in the u.s that you instead see men i think being territorial about like oh we're going to add
00:31:31.780 women to the draft as a sign of this like creeping feminization of things whereas in countries where 1.00
00:31:37.120 you actually can get drafted i think you instead see young men seeing like yeah like they should
00:31:41.620 they should have to do the same stuff we do just a thought uh is israel by the way also has
00:31:46.820 mandatory conscription if i remember correctly they do for both that's right israel and it's and it's
00:31:51.960 and famously there are female idf um idf soldiers and this is something i'm just pulling it up here
00:31:58.000 conscription applies israeli citizens age 18 both men and women are required to serve however the duration
00:32:04.840 and roles may differ men are typically wow men are typically required to serve for 32 months now
00:32:12.640 obviously this may have this may have changed post uh 10-7 men typically required to serve for 32 months
00:32:19.820 women typically serve for 24 months that's wild that's wild and it it also just goes to show you that 1.00
00:32:27.000 in in this country you know we benefit from having you know two relatively safe uh obviously borders to
00:32:34.580 our east and west with the oceans to the north way of canada to the south way of mexico not a safe
00:32:39.960 border but compared to other parts of the world uh it's a huge luxury huge luxury that we don't need
00:32:45.720 this type of military service in america yeah any other thoughts there guys so draft aside do we think
00:32:54.760 like a lot of women should be in the military generally in combat roles i don't necessarily think so i mean 0.76
00:33:00.720 if they want to serve in non-combat arena i think that if you want to be um in an intel officer or
00:33:06.860 something critical in that regard but i've been on the record that i don't think women should be in 1.00
00:33:10.560 frontline combat roles not to say that they necessarily that there haven't been women that 0.88
00:33:13.500 have been heroes in that regard but i think it's been long-term damaging to the culture of the united
00:33:18.080 states military especially and you have a take on this blake the camaraderie of frontline combat units
00:33:23.500 it is very primal and introducing a single female into that changes the dynamic completely it's very 1.00
00:33:28.400 interesting when you read about how you how you build men into soldiers like if you read about
00:33:33.080 how they do marine corps basic training or if you've been through that basic training yourself
00:33:36.960 you know that it's kind of it's almost like a better version of like almost making you join a cult or
00:33:44.340 something where they're going to isolate you they're going to put you through a ton of really
00:33:48.300 intense work you're going to get really tightly bound with your comrades and it's it's like hazing
00:33:53.840 everyone has to do like in the marines everyone has to do the same basic training it's really
00:33:57.680 intense they're all bound by that and it's to create a you know every every person who's been
00:34:04.080 in the war will tell you like by the when you're really in a war you don't keep fighting because
00:34:08.080 you care about the cause you don't keep fighting because you are obsessed with like you know the
00:34:13.320 country what you end up getting really obsessed with is your the guy next to you your comrades and
00:34:17.920 what your duty to them and this is sort of a bluntly this is a thing that men in an all-male
00:34:25.360 environment have a much easier time creating and maintaining and it does mess it up when you add
00:34:31.060 a lot of women to that because what do men do over women they compete over women yes uh even if it's 1.00
00:34:36.480 not even on a like attraction basis it just it changes how they interact they start worrying about
00:34:42.940 saving face they start worrying about how they look to everyone else they they stop caring about just
00:34:48.800 do whatever it takes to get the mission done and it doesn't matter necessarily who gets credit or
00:34:55.660 anything else and i'm not saying it's always like this but it is a force that comes into play
00:35:00.440 and if you talk to a lot of guys who have been in the military a long time a lot of them will just tell
00:35:05.580 you this that it it does mess it up to just suddenly have a bunch of women in that environment 1.00
00:35:11.340 so outside the cultural issues i think that just it's just very simple we should hold men and
00:35:17.400 do the same standard for output and organically because that's kind of how it used to run right
00:35:23.680 and organically there were no women in combat uh form for that outside of a few specific instances 0.90
00:35:30.900 like in the cockpit for example just women are smaller in stature and so there's some roles where 1.00
00:35:37.240 it makes more sense to have smaller humans inside you know planes and tanks and things like that which
00:35:43.120 totally makes sense but like they should be just be held the same standard it's really simple
00:35:46.100 we should have the best possible killers on the front lines you know and so that everybody's
00:35:52.160 scared of us not people who are trans so i agree so i think we're in full agreement by the way blake
00:35:59.160 what you're what you're talking about the phrase in is a spirit decor um it's it's a french phrase
00:36:06.040 you know it kind of translates to like unit cohesion but it's so much bigger than that a spirit decor
00:36:11.000 um when i was in the military it just it's it's it's it is that that unbreakable bond that you're
00:36:16.860 talking about that when you're put through the pressure cooker together that it you come out with
00:36:22.640 and and by the way i would throw out there though but you know to folks saying oh well you know what if
00:36:27.880 just one or two women um are are are introduced in one of these units and that's not so bad because 0.98
00:36:34.020 that doesn't doesn't keep it up and i would just say again um having served in variety of um
00:36:41.440 variety positions where there are only a small number of women compared to a large number of men 1.00
00:36:49.580 uh charlie what do you think that does to the male pool that is that is there when you're in an
00:36:56.400 isolated environment and there's a large pool of men and a small pool of women pray tell what what what 1.00
00:37:02.560 would you think what do i think about if there's a large pool of men and a small pool of women i 1.00
00:37:07.920 mean yeah it creates what do you think that does to the men it creates a certain behavior certain
00:37:12.920 behavior certain behavior is a great way to put it it creates certain behavior and that certain
00:37:16.660 behavior is absolutely look it there's a biological imperative there is natural imperative there but
00:37:21.840 i'll tell you one thing it is not imperative to the the good order and discipline of running a
00:37:27.980 united states military unit it's certainly not good for running a submarine which recently
00:37:32.260 introduced uh female submariners even though probably submarine corps is on its way out given
00:37:36.920 the the prevalence of drones in undersea warfare going forward um but this this is just something
00:37:42.380 that creates competitiveness the ratios i mean look when i was at guantanamo it was like i think the
00:37:47.500 ratio was like 10 to 1 in some instances depending on the unit or overall on the island and so look you
00:37:54.060 get all of those guys competing for the one girl and unfortunately for some some of the female 1.00
00:38:01.820 troopers when they see this they then take it as license and they then take it as agency to be able
00:38:09.720 to pull favors to be able to pull rank to be able to get what they want to be able to get plum assignments
00:38:15.640 because they realize they have this influence over others uh by the way here's a picture of daisy and
00:38:20.820 on the front lines in ukraine 154 bring it up yeah there we go that actually looks like syria
00:38:26.980 i think yeah they're going off they're going to fight the war yeah they're they're they're deployed
00:38:31.680 in mosul right now daisy was daisy was telling me the other day how much she hates asaj she's like
00:38:37.200 i'm going to take him out myself no but that's that's men with their faces on it no that's not
00:38:42.260 no the stature no that no it's not that's emma they actually got drafted since the show started
00:38:47.980 they they got scooped up if she was if either one of them was carrying that gun it would be 0.98
00:38:54.280 literally touched they'd be dragging on the ground yeah it is we should clarify these women probably 1.00
00:38:59.260 have a combined weight of like what like 160 pounds or something i don't get em and daisy are
00:39:05.120 producers i don't know that the audience knows who em and daisy are they are producers and we love
00:39:09.820 they're great they're the best they're great no but i put them on the spot here for now i hate
00:39:13.320 asad they just we're gonna we're gonna take them out to uh we're gonna take them out with page
00:39:18.160 and have a page drew that would be great page could go fight i think she'd want to fight yeah 1.00
00:39:24.460 pages already there but we'll have she win a battle royale in this office unit it's going to ruin all 1.00
00:39:29.460 the men in the unit pay every some guys yeah page that come to the unit they're all done they're
00:39:34.620 all completely ruined all of them i think that's right what if we only drafted women in the 1.00
00:39:39.540 w nba i think that'd be a great idea not caitlin clark no she has to lead them i don't know if
00:39:46.660 she's not reading right now good point they might frag her like in vietnam is more than more than
00:39:52.520 capable more than qualified i fully support britney griner leading the charge into harm's way 1.00
00:39:58.480 on the battlefield by the way you know i got a hate email from somebody saying charlie what are you
00:40:03.120 talking about the w nba is more entertaining than college basketball it's so amazing to watch
00:40:07.040 and i literally respond i'm like is this a is this a troll like are you are you trying to try and
00:40:11.980 then she got really upset she like listens all the thought crimes i'll look it up who it is seems
00:40:16.640 like a very sweet person sometimes you'll see this they'll be like there's more emphasis on passing
00:40:20.440 no no she said that it's it's more skill and finesse she said there is that i said not i said you mean
00:40:24.580 like more missed shots and like slower players i have a request the w nba all-star game is in phoenix
00:40:32.360 no like next month we can shoot thought crimes we should do college game day outside outside
00:40:40.300 the thought crime live outside the w nba and like be super serious and all of us can dress up
00:40:46.160 that'd be great um the real question is um will there be any straight men at the w nba all-star game
00:40:54.860 will there be any straight women a lot of blakers well yes i think they're i mean i think you've been
00:41:00.600 have you seen a w nba game i i've tried what i really tried for about 25 seconds and
00:41:07.460 my goodness after 25 seconds so i i actually have a belief so you know how um all the nba teams do
00:41:16.620 like a pride night i think there should be a straight night at the w nba games because it's
00:41:23.380 so hard to find yeah because it's like it's mostly straight if you're an nba fan and then they have
00:41:28.400 pride night and you know the gay community is welcome i think the straight community should
00:41:32.220 be welcome to at least one of the w nba games that's the saturday that's the saturday after
00:41:36.720 milwaukee which means so wait wait are we going to do thought crime cannot we have to do it you guys
00:41:42.220 go i you can't pay me to go yes it'd be so fun you can wear a britney grinder jersey should we ballot
00:41:48.260 chase at the w nba yeah i'm sure you will have it yes did i tell you about when i went to a concert
00:41:53.760 fans of the w nba i'm sure there will be did i tell you i went to a concert with my wife respond to
00:41:58.840 that email make sure she registered i went to a concert with my wife i turn around i'm in this line
00:42:05.120 and the the i'm not kidding you the gayest guy i've ever seen was behind me and he goes are you 0.85
00:42:13.380 tyler boyer and i was like oh no because i turn around and i was like this guy's gonna like he
00:42:19.240 hates us right like we i've been through the philadelphia incident with you and candace stormed
00:42:24.060 out and and i turn around he's got boa on he's hanging out he's like i love you guys i love you
00:42:30.260 and charlie thank you for all you're doing the gay community has a lot of fans no i don't we do i okay
00:42:35.680 so here's an interesting question so don't discount that w nba fans don't we don't have some really
00:42:40.940 great fans do you think lesbians or gays are more mega jack gays why uh because lesbians tend to be 1.00
00:42:53.420 more feminine coded and feminine coded is liberal okay do you agree blake i think it's yeah i think
00:43:01.520 gay men are more likely to i don't know that it's because of the masculine feminine thing or
00:43:09.020 it's almost just like in my gut i suspect this it's just how i there's a fair amount of gay men 0.53
00:43:16.020 that show up to mag around there's a fair amount of gay men who are like extremely right wing well
00:43:21.440 they also work on capitol hill and call themselves republican staffers yeah yeah and i've i've just
00:43:25.640 yeah i mean just anecdotally going to rallies and being around the movement i would say i've run
00:43:30.540 into more gays for trump than i'm not saying i haven't found lesbians for trump i mean there certainly
00:43:35.540 are um there's some that i know personally as a matter of fact and some that i've worked with but
00:43:40.260 that doesn't know i would just say based on numbers i think i've run into more gays for trump than
00:43:45.100 anything blake of course runs into gays for trump every single night on grinder i'm gonna make the 0.80
00:43:50.680 pitch i'm gonna make the pitch right now for why lesbians should convert to conservatism i thought 1.00
00:43:58.660 you're gonna say to convert to something else no no to conservatism and it's because i mean look i
00:44:03.900 every person i know i think this is super weird i think it's culturally anemic when it comes to
00:44:10.520 politics for conservatives lesbian the gay community is coming around the lesbian community is not great
00:44:16.640 for us but here's what i'll tell you is that there are so many we're winning over men in such high
00:44:23.760 numbers so we should win over people who want to be men no so there's more masculine energy yes energy
00:44:29.220 there's always and they say this in the gate in the gay relationship there's always a more feminine 0.79
00:44:33.280 partner and there's always a more masculine partner in a lesbian uh relationship the more 1.00
00:44:38.260 masculine partner should definitely be voting for trump no question if you're a caretaker your provider 0.52
00:44:44.940 you like doing those like there's there's a lot of the same vibes they just have to discover it
00:44:50.240 right there's tons of blue collar in the in the in the lesbian community so so the data shows 1.00
00:44:55.680 that lesbians are actually slight no i'm sorry that gays are slightly gay men are slightly more 0.66
00:45:00.660 what i think is interesting about this old chart is it says that about eight percent of gay men are
00:45:05.980 republican and then four percent of lesbians and seven percent of bisexuals and it's still that 1.00
00:45:10.060 all lgbt are still eight percent republican which just shows gay men are like vastly outnumbered like 1.00
00:45:17.540 the real reason yeah like the reason lesbians should go right wing is like the the trans phenomenon 1.00
00:45:23.680 is like a genocide of lesbians basically i think lesbians who are actually republican 0.98
00:45:29.280 just aren't vocal because it's so unpopular with like the the crossover between feminism
00:45:34.820 and lesbian issues so so two questions number one in these pride parades do you see a lot of
00:45:41.080 lesbians present it seems mostly a gay men phenomenon no there are is that i don't go to pride parades
00:45:46.460 well i don't either blake so that's why i'm asking no clips like clips i don't watch clips of
00:45:51.600 pride parades why did you bring this do you just google like why did you take that question it's
00:45:56.260 in your face like every every come on it's on the telegram channel don't act like you're like
00:45:59.940 oblivious okay jack am i on to something here it seems to be more gay men than lesbians am i right 0.92
00:46:05.460 so it's it's yeah it's gay men it's drag queens and which are mostly men it's male female trans
00:46:13.760 but in terms of let but in terms of the numbers again it it yeah it seems to be way fewer lesbians 1.00
00:46:21.640 have you guys felt a more muted pride month than in years past this year 100 i do you agree tyler
00:46:28.220 i was talking about this seems way chiller pride last year it was like literally it was out of
00:46:33.120 control couldn't turn anywhere without it being pride month this year has been like the is the target 1.00
00:46:38.160 effect i think i think it's the target effect i think they're afraid that the doing like this stuff
00:46:42.060 in public actually hurts them in the election yes oh yeah for sure they muted it i think it's
00:46:48.520 totally muted it's been way turned down and even in detroit i was expecting a lot more in downtown
00:46:54.060 detroit i mean we had the it was the pagan flag so for example like google's home page is about soccer
00:47:00.140 right now we're still in the month of pride i saw flags all over detroit and by the way we went
00:47:07.920 into we drove through um ohio as well and i saw them in sandusky i saw them in toledo i saw them
00:47:15.360 in cleveland so here's here's one danger that i see among the right or just among the sort of like
00:47:22.220 anti-woke crowd if people are saying that okay is it a muted um you know is it a muted pride month yes 0.86
00:47:28.400 but at the same time just because it's muted doesn't mean that the overton window hasn't been
00:47:34.180 completely shifted from where it was just a decade ago in terms of acceptance of this and not only
00:47:41.900 the acceptance but also the the sort of idea that you know pride month is normalized so the normalization
00:47:49.600 is still there and that's what i'm saying it isn't necessarily whether or not it's as in your face as
00:47:55.580 it was but i i think the normalization has already been achieved okay let's get that was a detour
00:48:01.840 segment it was a bit but actually works out for one of the things we wanted to talk about which is
00:48:05.900 obviously we hear about homophobia transphobia we frequently had people point out that uh you know
00:48:11.720 they don't really have a conventional arachnophobia style fear of gays probably is more accurate for
00:48:18.060 transphobia i think a few people do recoil if uh you know they see like babs the drag queen show up
00:48:25.120 in a kindergarten but we had a lot of fun talking last week about uh about tipping so we thought this
00:48:31.700 week we could just say do you have any the chambermaid kind of saying yeah do we have so the question is
00:48:36.440 do you have any real phobias not not like i don't i don't know the clinical term i'm very afraid of
00:48:42.500 like rats and mice incredible like if there are i get very skittish if there's like a mouse or a rat
00:48:47.780 around incredibly really yeah that's musophobia what musophobia it's so not mouse but musophobia i i
00:48:57.300 wouldn't say it's a i wouldn't say it's a phobia i hate heights though do not like them hate heights
00:49:04.220 like like how bad like can you like have you gone to the grand canyon and like you can't go near
00:49:09.000 the ledge and all that i mean i can go near the ledge here's how bad if it's if i'm on like the
00:49:14.720 15th floor of a high rise and it's like a balcony i can chill there i can't like go up and look down i
00:49:20.580 think that most people are like i don't i don't know if like could you like look over a balcony and
00:49:25.720 look down to the ground yeah i think do you hear what i'm saying tyler i mean that spooks me out
00:49:30.200 right i hate it okay i was actually angelo said this i get a weird feeling in my feet with balconies
00:49:35.860 i'm right there with him i i so what other fears do i have i'll let you guys i fear would it be bad
00:49:43.540 like when you when you lived in dc uh dc definitely has rats that are visible oh no no i i literally
00:49:49.000 rats i i i do like i've always hated the idea of just like a critter crawling around hate it
00:49:55.560 so i legit um i've talked about this publicly before i legit have misophonia um is that mouse
00:50:04.080 no no no no not misophonia or musophonia but actually misophonia which is different from
00:50:10.580 me so musophobia so that's when um uh chewing slurping lip smacking heavy breathing sounds
00:50:18.980 um they just drive me nuts so what's really weird is that you know because i knew somebody was going
00:50:24.440 to do this it doesn't actually bother me when someone does it deliberately it's only when
00:50:28.660 people are doing it sort of like i hate it as an accident that it drives me nuts so or people are
00:50:35.620 doing it sort of like um without you know involuntarily when someone does it yeah on an airplane
00:50:41.060 it in a movie theater um and it it doesn't and so it just i mean i feel like this irritation
00:50:47.200 just straight up anger rage reaction disgust reaction like i have in in my youth when uh
00:50:55.560 when some friends have tried to mess with me uh i've i've given people stitches over this um it's
00:51:01.940 like it it just really really really rubs me the wrong way i have another one i have if there were
00:51:07.640 if there were anything i could do to fix it i would totally do it yeah terrell has this also really bad
00:51:12.320 by the way here's here's another one i hate i am afraid to go under general anesthesia
00:51:17.500 i've done it i absolutely hate it oh my goodness i feel like you're dying do you get like the shakes
00:51:22.980 like do you oh i like freak out if i have to go under how do you do it that's a reasonable fear
00:51:27.600 i mean i've only ever done it once i've done it twice in my life uh and it's the worst thing ever
00:51:32.520 i think it's more you literally just like to give me every drug i think it's more reasonable to be
00:51:36.060 afraid of anesthesia than it is to be of like irrational fears of doctors no i'm not i think it's very
00:51:41.580 rational to be afraid of like losing all consciousness you don't dream you've no consciousness
00:51:46.060 yeah i've only done it once i got my wisdom teeth out but that's my second time it was not a big
00:51:50.580 deal i guess it was like oh thing makes me go to sleep maybe i'd be more scared it's not sleep
00:51:54.300 though that's people understand you realize that they stick they intubate you yeah yeah because you
00:51:58.220 you don't breathe yeah they have to then make you breathe with the tube so literally like your entire
00:52:03.780 being is at their mercy there's a lot of stuff i probably would have been more freaked out if i knew
00:52:07.580 more like now i know that they can screw it up where you'll be unable to move but you still feel
00:52:13.180 everything and no no i know this this is why i was so deathly afraid my whole schedule was like
00:52:18.400 revolving around this for like two weeks i was like obsessing about it and freaking out about it
00:52:23.400 craziest thing i remember about it is just the way it'll be like okay we're gonna count down from
00:52:28.100 10 oh no it's the worst nine no no i can't and you wake up you wake up and it's seven hours later or
00:52:32.500 whatever and well if it was seven hours later that's it's whatever an hour later i don't know
00:52:36.980 no i can't i can't even think about it my my biggest fear i have i have a fear i'm not really
00:52:42.080 i don't have a fear of very many things but i have a recurring nightmare uh i have several so i have a
00:52:49.140 recurring nightmare that's like a very specific nightmare and so it's like led me to what i've
00:52:53.980 learned is amaxophobia which is the fear of getting run over by a car and so i am a i have
00:53:02.360 this recurring nightmare i'm walking through a large like walmart parking lot and i walk behind
00:53:08.980 a car and wonderwall is playing in the parking lot by oasis this has happened i've had this dream
00:53:15.700 wonderwall i don't i've had this same dream 10 times there's probably a meaning wonderwall is
00:53:21.020 playing in the background and i'm just walking through with a bag in my hand and a and a car just
00:53:25.660 backs over me and i'm dead is it like just abrupt or does it like come from a long distance i wake up
00:53:31.040 gotta play wonderwall guys come on we gotta get on a wonderwall plays i'm walking through the
00:53:36.120 parking lot and then like all of a sudden the car just like guns it and backs over me and i'm dead
00:53:41.520 and i wake up this is a recurring dream every time i've had it like probably 10 times maybe a dozen
00:53:45.620 times i have another fear growing up i was always deathly afraid that our house was gonna get
00:53:49.380 burglarized yeah yeah and so i got into guns super young yeah and i still i mean we have tons of
00:53:54.420 weapons if anyone even like gets near us it's just it's open season like it's super deathly fear
00:53:59.780 because we grew up in a house with a lot of windows yep in suburban chicago kind of like in
00:54:03.580 the woods you've been to my house it's like where i grew up it's kind of like a sitting yeah yeah
00:54:07.740 because it's i mean it's all wooded around it's all wooded glass and so your guys's house is cool
00:54:12.240 it's amazing house i grew up in so we have like tons of weapons and tons of dogs yeah i would say
00:54:18.140 actually tyler i was just gonna say that it's not a phobia but you know since you mentioned it i and
00:54:23.780 this hasn't occurred in a while i haven't had a dream in years just absolute years no you should get
00:54:28.860 you should get that checked out just no dreams whatsoever that's like you know you know mikey
00:54:34.240 mccoy doesn't dream either and i'm like dude something is wrong with you how is that mike
00:54:37.900 i dream when i nap oh yeah i dream i dream on the plane wait no wait so jack i i'm interested
00:54:43.620 did you did you i'm not did you like get your head hit or something or like something change
00:54:47.520 no not that i know of i mean i so you don't even dream you just never how is that possible
00:54:54.000 anything i've just i've just haven't had one in the long time i used to all the time i used to
00:54:59.700 you know it used to be something that i prayed about a bit like oh i pray i don't have a bad
00:55:03.600 dream tonight that kind of thing like before you go to bed when you're when you're saying your prayers
00:55:07.420 which i still do every night but uh i just i haven't i used to always pray to never have a bad
00:55:13.460 dream and when i was a kid and now for years i want to say it's it's probably been over a decade
00:55:21.020 since i've had a dream it's probably been over a decade what yeah that's crazy do you dream blake
00:55:26.820 yeah not super often i used to dream more and i would have these i dream every night and my dreams
00:55:32.600 are usually kind of negative like i would have a dream a very recurring theme in my dreams will be
00:55:37.800 like there was a sense of like pervading escalating doom so a lot of it's weird a lot of people a lot
00:55:44.260 of having dreams about i'm so surprised so a lot of people have dreams you know where you go into
00:55:49.280 school you go into school and like you have the quiz you didn't study for i never get that
00:55:53.980 every dream you can imagine i've had i don't get that dream the dream i will have is it'll be like
00:55:58.800 i'm back in school like in college or in high school and it won't be about i won't be in class
00:56:03.940 i won't be doing but i'll like it'll be a fact in the background of this dream and i just know it that
00:56:08.800 like i'm failing the class and at the end of the term like i'll be screwed but like the hammer hasn't
00:56:14.580 come down yet so i'll have that the more exciting ones it'll be like i'm in a movie or something and
00:56:20.860 we're like resisting the evil totalitarian regime but we don't defeat the totalitarian regime the
00:56:26.680 ending is always like they entrap us and catch us and then like i wake up because i'm about to like
00:56:31.780 so much
00:56:32.880 i would also say it's not crippling but i'd say relative to the average person i i probably kind
00:56:42.240 of have a mild fear of the dark like it makes me uncomfortable like that's interesting yeah you
00:56:47.340 know what like dark space i've never had such a fear of that yeah that's that just that just
00:56:52.300 reminded me of the middle space that just totally reminded the middle spaces yeah no it reminds me
00:56:56.600 of you know what freaks me out is when you're when you're underwater in we used to go to this lake
00:57:02.700 up in canada uh just north of lake kingston so in in ontario and when you open your eyes
00:57:10.000 underwater and you can't see the bottom that freaks me out that's very oh yeah i'd say a fear
00:57:16.140 of the deep that's a thing like totally i mean i would totally have that like i i i don't like
00:57:21.340 yeah that's called the last phobia so it's so amazing how people are wired differently i follow
00:57:26.380 that which is very related to some people are the dark super afraid of sharks like i've never been
00:57:30.580 afraid of sharks in my life yeah like ever and some people are deathly yeah like i've only swam in
00:57:35.180 the ocean once in my life and it's never been that appealing water like whatever you know it's
00:57:40.160 weird though have you ever been in like a lake or something and you're not afraid of anything like i
00:57:46.040 don't i gotta like but then something will like like brush your brush you and then it's like
00:57:51.980 it's like in your head a thing that has haunted me for ages is like one time someone told me like
00:57:58.580 just for kicks like free hold your legs like still underwater and then like some fish kind of just
00:58:04.520 like like brush like not even brush it kind of like sucked on the leg or whatever and like that
00:58:09.440 freaked me out and i've been like like to this day i cannot hold my legs still if i am in a body of
00:58:15.520 water that might have fish i never want to repeat that again that was 25 years ago i'm gonna tell
00:58:19.660 you about a dream i had last week and it was a real dream but it's amazing how much film influences
00:58:24.320 our fears so i was in maine last summer and i was so freaked out even though it's like so unlikely
00:58:29.180 because of freaking stephen king who should be who should um near banger area extradited speaking 0.63
00:58:34.940 of terrible boomers stephen king is like the worst boomer in the world he should be shot to neptune 0.91
00:58:39.320 extradited to neptune no i'm not kidding he's already that he's already project 2025 is that
00:58:45.440 stephen king gets shot up to neptune first man on neptune steven we're putting you on voyager 3
00:58:50.740 he's a manor that's what i'm saying he has this really weird creepy home in maine in banger
00:58:55.040 man yeah so i was into his house i i put uh put a copy of the art of the deal in his mailbox
00:59:00.840 last time it's amazing oh i love that i'm gonna send him right when revolution there's this kind
00:59:06.040 of constant recurring theme and it's like how film impacts you if you're in the northeast near the
00:59:12.060 woods you think an axe murder is going to come to you yeah right i mean and you see like it actually
00:59:16.640 makes you no there's something you agree with something about the northeast there's something about
00:59:21.140 the northeast no it's because you've been propagandized to believe it though jack no no
00:59:26.560 because i've been going to mean since i was two years old and i've always felt that it feels weird
00:59:31.340 up there i've always felt oh yeah i mean they did a lot of so do you know that actually at the in in
00:59:36.300 the inlet in mount mount desert desert island right there at acadia national park that that was one of
00:59:42.240 the places of the largest human sacrifices are recorded in indigenous people in like native american
00:59:47.380 history there you go and and look this is what stephen king was writing about this is what pet
00:59:52.300 cemetery is about this is what oh i hate that by the way hp lovecraft had a ton of ties into the
00:59:58.920 eldritch horrors this is all you're in that shadow over in smith and all these different things totally
01:00:04.980 there's there's some weird dark energy over there i agree but let me let me finish my dream so anyway i
01:00:12.040 just want to put i get what you're saying but i am also saying separately there's something so so
01:00:16.020 another one is that if you're driving just how i once landed in fayetteville airport super late
01:00:21.680 at night and like when you land in fayetteville arkansas there's nothing and you start driving
01:00:26.120 through these and literally mikey dan and i were like an axe murderer is going to come out with a
01:00:30.480 chainsaw i've had that thought like i've had the irrational thought it's related to the fear of the
01:00:34.540 dark thing yes and this is also the horror movie thing like the recurring thought in my head is
01:00:38.860 horror movie propagandized us to believe that rural america has a bunch of guys
01:00:42.120 chainsaw or just i'll be in my apartment and i need to keep the lights on or i know
01:00:46.460 i need to keep the lights on or i know like i'll turn the lights off and i'll turn around and like
01:00:50.860 mike myers the yes with the mask on it'll be there and this is the power of film by the way that's why
01:00:56.440 a lot of the open water okay so let me tell you my dream i don't want to forget this hold on jack
01:01:00.100 my dream very simple i woke up at 3 a.m very upset i kid you not tyler in the dream in the dream
01:01:07.300 we were sitting here at this doing the show and we didn't chase enough ballots and biden won arizona
01:01:12.760 i kid you not i kid you not it is a i swear on a stack of bibles it i woke up and i was pacing
01:01:21.560 around and i was like i can't sleep and i did not go back to sleep for two hours because it was so
01:01:28.240 vivid and i was so angry in the dream and i was so angry in the dream i was like we could have done
01:01:33.340 more we could have registered more voters no and i woke up and i was like the children are like
01:01:39.380 daddy i have those dreams all the time so that those are my dreams i wake up thinking something
01:01:45.380 happened i had heart palpitations i was like i worried about and it's it's a totally different
01:01:49.320 it's a totally it's like an alternate reality and i literally was as vivid it could be it's like
01:01:53.320 and they were like now all of arizona's 11 electoral votes called for biden i've had so stephen king
01:01:59.260 has written all this these several cringe stories about like evil right-wing political figures i
01:02:04.240 wonder if we could get him to write a horror story about us about like about evil charlie kirk or
01:02:08.960 whatever like where you're a demon i think that'd be fun if we if he did oh really me being a demon
01:02:13.100 that would be fun yeah you know it's it's flattering let me throw my response though
01:02:16.640 this whole we've been we've been propagandizing my movies because i've always said this going back to
01:02:22.140 the original john carpenter in what was that 79 i think it came out the first michael myers movie
01:02:26.660 of halloween that the only time they ever actually show the midwest in hollywood movies
01:02:32.840 is in horror every single time literally all of strange all of strange no that's chicago well it's
01:02:38.660 still like a more urban chicago is is the midwest of the midwest jack but please continue no no i'm
01:02:44.660 talking about like i'm talking about like uh the the more more rural midwest not so true story
01:02:50.940 halloween and so sorry so i've never i've never had an issue going to the midwest even though i've
01:02:58.200 seen every single one of those movies and i've seen all of those series i don't have any prejudice
01:03:03.220 going in midwest thinking like oh yeah this is where it happens well you know why jack in halloween
01:03:09.120 halloween of course takes place in ohio or something but they filmed it in pasadena california and then
01:03:16.620 they just had bags of leaves and they would dump them out and they would have to gather them back
01:03:21.100 up and dump them out every time they had to shoot a new scene because of course they didn't have
01:03:25.460 halloween are they on right now are they like 14 or 15 so they well they made a bunch and then they
01:03:29.580 rebooted it with movies made by rob zombie and then they rebooted it again and i think they just
01:03:34.300 finished a trilogy of the third reboot so it's it's a third it's a it's kind of hard to explain
01:03:41.040 because it's not even necessarily a reboot it's like they brought back jamie lee curtis
01:03:44.660 yeah so they brought back like jamie lee curtis and they've ignored a bunch of the sort of filler
01:03:50.520 ones and the last couple the last one's horrible she absolutely got awful one of the ones where i
01:03:55.640 think the first one they were they brought her back was pretty good but this last one was god
01:03:58.380 awful and and so these are just sort of follow ones from the original if that makes sense so any
01:04:04.500 other fears guys i just i think it's amazing how many of our fears are actually placed upon us by
01:04:09.380 cultural media what's what's the chat been saying i haven't i haven't looked at the chat
01:04:13.460 the chat what are they afraid a lot of people are just posting about being in main
01:04:19.080 or massachusetts main is objectively one of the most beautiful places however snakes are the worst
01:04:25.840 says uh key saunders 25 yeah snakes are evil the bible is clear on this um i i suppose they've
01:04:34.160 probably cued this up so i'm just going to stare directly at you charlie in case they're doing it
01:04:38.240 what i don't like giant spiders like normal spiders yeah like tarantulas yeah even like if i'm playing
01:04:45.660 like a video game like one the size of like a mountain lion will really like but i think if you like
01:04:51.120 them then you got serious problems what are we looking at here spiders not looking i'm not looking
01:04:56.520 not going to turn my eyes see that doesn't bother me that much if you did you watch arachnophobia 0.98
01:05:00.140 nope not going to that doesn't bother me that much people are saying snakes people clowns someone
01:05:06.360 in the chat no i agree i never got a theory as to why i know i'm super afraid of clowns and i think
01:05:11.800 they're super creepy no no no i have a whole theory as to this wait how did you not lead off with that
01:05:15.580 no because it's not like it's not i can get through it but it's on the list okay um it's on the list i
01:05:21.520 let me tell you why clowns are i have a whole theory on this it's the forced happiness
01:05:25.280 it's because it's so overly dramatic and you could tell that it's just a shtick there's something
01:05:32.140 that like bothers my soul are you scared of sad clowns i don't like clowns in general and by the way
01:05:38.500 there's like there's a term for this actually clown fear it would you know it's pretty widespread
01:05:42.900 it's when's the last time thing to um colophobia colophobia speaking of which when's the last time
01:05:51.100 any of you saw ronald mcdonald uh didn't they removed him so do you remember there was that
01:05:57.060 meme a few years ago like this must have been a little bit before trump or around that time 16 17
01:06:01.520 there was like this spate of people supposedly seeing like creepy clowns in the woods and it was
01:06:06.620 like a meme that allegedly people were just dressing up as scary clowns and then people were worried
01:06:11.940 someone was gonna get like beat up or shot over this and when that was the big meme mcdonald's just was
01:06:17.520 they temporarily removed ronald mcdonald because like oh this is going on but in reality they sent
01:06:23.020 him to a farm in upstate new york you know to play with the other animals and he's never been seen
01:06:26.880 since other fears oh i but my ultimate fear ultimate fear i got no now this is the one i forgot
01:06:34.900 sorry in the chat said the wnba being buried alive yeah that is actually i think it's number one i think
01:06:42.120 about that i would rather be burned alive i would rather be drowned alive than uh buried alive okay
01:06:49.100 i definitely can be drowning would be the scariest of like meme deaths to me like i don't like the
01:06:53.780 idea i think in my head i know that being buried alive is the absolute worst because you don't know
01:06:59.700 the moment that you're not going to be able to have consciousness i guess the difference for me
01:07:02.840 with being buried alive is i kind of know intuitively you're just sort of i think kind of fall asleep
01:07:07.520 basically uh whereas with drowning no no it's suffocation being buried alive is suffocation
01:07:13.640 okay yeah or like carbon monoxide poisoning from your yes yeah i can't remember yourself or i don't
01:07:20.260 know for me drowning i hate the idea of drowning where like you kind of go insane while drowning like
01:07:25.120 you freak out and like you start inhaling water because you're trying so desperately to breathe and
01:07:29.880 stuff it's not not a fun experience the surprisingly pleasant way to go is hypothermia which like creeps
01:07:37.400 some people out actually you get warm and numb yeah you just kind of go numb and fall that is one
01:07:42.220 where you definitely fall asleep but um yeah i don't know bury alive has never bothered me quite
01:07:48.040 as much maybe the claustrophobia would be bad but i've never buried myself alive so i can't say
01:07:52.960 have you guys noticed that that trump has been talking uh like a lot lately about ways to die
01:07:58.540 and he's been talking about this on and at the rallies he talked about a little bit in detroit even
01:08:03.540 so no remember that whole thing about the electric cars and the sharks when he talks about this where
01:08:08.400 he's like he's like oh well if i'm in a tesla and it's flooding and the the battery is going to
01:08:14.220 electrocute me that um you know but then i see a big shark coming i think which do i want to take my
01:08:21.820 chances with the electrocution or the shark and he goes i'm going electrocution i'd much rather have
01:08:27.920 that than the shark no you're right he's thinking about this he's totally thinking about this that
01:08:33.300 he got a djt for thought crime i i want him on thought crime i've i've been saying this behind
01:08:38.680 the scenes for a long look our one year is coming up our one year is coming up it's he was just all
01:08:43.980 in what was it today this about this time we're on episode 50 but we've missed a couple weeks so
01:08:49.000 here and there so it's probably been about a year uh final topic or do we have another partner to
01:08:54.640 say here no we have uh no i think those are our two uh final thoughts or topic here really quick
01:09:00.980 blake um do i want to talk about the we could talk about the 10 commandments or since you're afraid
01:09:05.340 of rats we could talk about rat boys yes no let's let's close it okay all right by the way that that
01:09:10.260 kid from dune is a rat boy yes he is one of the rat boys and as soon as i saw a picture of him
01:09:16.880 i said i bet women will find him attractive yeah so no i knew it i mean obviously i have an
01:09:23.080 unblemished record of heterosexuality but i as soon as i saw him i said i bet women will find him
01:09:29.800 to be appealing yeah so no muscle mass no aggression basically a fem boy yeah so we were we were 0.66
01:09:36.720 interrogating the girls about this just a little bit ago before they get drafted before they were 1.00
01:09:41.720 drafted and sent to syria you know what we wish them the best uh and i guess they're they're calling
01:09:46.900 it instead of white boy summer it's rat boy summer and it is these you can see them on screen it's
01:09:53.840 basically rat faced men they're like short they have no muscle mass no muscle mass they have uh kind
01:10:01.220 of twinkish bodies they have sort of elongated faces i feel like they've always been in vogue though
01:10:07.240 indeed in hollywood not quite you do have shorter guys but it's like tom cruise like you don't
01:10:13.400 necessarily realize i wouldn't say that he's a rat boy he's not that's what i'm saying he's not 0.91
01:10:16.900 but yes now we have this uh timothy chalamet however you say it he's the guy from dune um but he's like
01:10:23.120 5 8 or or 5 10 i think but that's 5 10 officially probably means 5 7 5 8 for real and i guess they're
01:10:30.600 they're pushing these as super duper hot dream boys now according to daisy and emma before they were
01:10:37.000 drafted they said there's a level of irony to this like they're not conventionally hot and so
01:10:43.980 therefore they're hot but i mean we have come a long way from just you know let's just put brad
01:10:51.060 pitt out there and have him be a sex symbol i i can't comment most i i all i can say is it doesn't
01:10:58.160 it surprises me nothing a weakness is now desirable strength is a threat it is funny to me that they
01:11:05.200 have this timothy chalamet guy as like the product of a millennia long breeding program to basically
01:11:12.160 create the perfect male as the plot of the dune movies although i think i think he does actually
01:11:16.720 reflect kind of how paul is supposed to be in the books but uh i don't know it is just funny to
01:11:21.940 imagine that you know like this 5 foot 10 frenchman is the peak of all human genetic engineering and 0.78
01:11:27.340 eugenics for 5 000 years we've had far we're far from eugenics yeah but so um in closing i don't
01:11:36.200 have any more about rap boys nothing more about rap boys uh jack you want to read uh your new uh your
01:11:41.320 new novel the night arizona spoke in the chilly pre-dawn hours of november 4th the small town of
01:11:48.560 desert springs arizona lay cloaked in a silence that seemed to hum with tension across the nation
01:11:53.960 airwaves crackled with the news and updates our anticipation mounting with each passing minute
01:11:59.760 it was election night and the race was tighter than a noose around the neck of hope charlie kirk
01:12:05.860 a fervent supporter and key strategist for president trump had pinned his dreams on this election but
01:12:12.040 little did he know something dark and inexplicable was about to unfold mr kirk a young age called his
01:12:18.660 voice trembling slightly we're getting some unusual reports from desert springs charlie's eyes
01:12:24.320 unruly how so the aide hesitated glancing at other staffers who are now all around strange things are
01:12:31.600 happening with the voting machines they're malfunctioning people are saying they're seeing
01:12:36.100 things seeing things charlie repeated a skeptical eyebrow arched what kind of things faces the aide said
01:12:42.920 his voice barely whispered faces of the dead how long did it take chat gpt to do that uh three
01:12:51.900 seconds oh there's there's like so much more to this by the way if you guys want to hear the rest
01:12:57.180 of it uh go to charlie kirk.com daisy did send me a message she wanted to clarify that she and emma
01:13:02.620 do think rat boys are super hot and they're super desirable and they're pushing back on you charlie 1.00
01:13:08.920 they think that they are like the picture of masculinity they can they can meet one in damascus
01:13:15.420 yeah yeah they will there's plenty of rat boys in the middle east okay i'm waiting for her to send 0.97
01:13:20.620 me an angry message but okay she's gonna flip out no i'm just messing with them but that they did not
01:13:25.460 actually do that oh oh no now the angry messages are coming in oh no they're gonna shoot me with their
01:13:32.200 m4 that's right blake look what you've opened and they know how to use it oh crap oh no all right
01:13:39.260 everybody that was a wonderful episode uh stay based avoid clowns spiders and defeat in november
01:13:45.160 hear that tyler
01:13:48.960 i gotta go to walmart see you later
01:13:59.700 don't cry is death
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