THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 52 — Kamala the Chameleon? Olympic Boxing? Straight-Edge Teenagers?
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Summary
Jack Posobiec is a New York Times bestselling author. He is the author of UnHumans, which hit No. 1 on the bestseller list and is the first conservative book to do so in over a decade.
Transcript
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to this week's edition of Thought Crime.
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Today, myself, Charlie, and the boys break down the Kamala Chameleon.
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The comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, chameleon.
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You guys are going to love this, so strap in for another edition of Thought Crimes.
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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We've got an empty chair right now, but we can still ask questions to it.
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New York Times bestselling author, Jack Posobiec.
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Jack, you have to now change your driver's license to New York Times bestselling author.
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They'll never be able to take that away from you.
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Tell us about how you were able to penetrate the New York Times club.
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And so, look, it's just a testament to the book on humans, myself, Joshua Lysak, talking
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about the fact that we are going into and we are currently in what we call an irregular
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And the fact that the content stands on its own.
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But, you know, really, I just have to thank so many people.
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J.D. Vance, of course, who blurbed the book, Tucker Carlson, who gave us a great platform,
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Donald Trump Jr., Lieutenant General Flynn, Robert Stacey McCain from the American Spectator,
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Charlie, you, of course, gave Joshua and myself a fantastic, like, hour-and-a-half-long interview
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And really, I think it showed the movement coming together, but also this idea of a new
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way of looking at, you know, at what it is that we're up against.
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So I will tell you, actually, that in the—without revealing too much, looking at the numbers
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and the fact that we had Publishers Weekly, number one, on our first week out, we could
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Yet we actually, in the week we were released, we outsold every single book on the New York
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Times bestseller list, and yet we were not included on the New York Times bestseller list.
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And so there may have been some behind-the-scenes emailing and phone calling that went back and
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forth, and we were comparing data, and we were looking at different things.
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And let's just say that I'm very glad that the New York Times decided to be on the right
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side of history and give the book its due, because it earned its place there.
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It earned it through hard work, doing things the right way.
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And I appreciate the fact that they were able to come to terms with that.
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Plus, by the way, huge shout-out, not only J.D. Vance having blurred the book, but he
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also hit number one himself in his own right with Hillbilly Elegy, a book that came out,
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I think, eight years ago when it was first published.
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But it is also number one that just goes to show there's a huge interest in conservative
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books and a huge interest in specifically these types of stories, which the, you know,
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for lack of a better term, the new right, the new MAGA movement is putting out.
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And you're seeing that reflected in the numbers.
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We did not make the bestseller list this summer, and you did.
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We did it back on MAGA doctrine, and we did that whole push.
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Now, Jack, you would agree, there's a lot of gamification.
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You were able to jump right into it, and that's a very big deal.
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And the episode we also have up on the Charlie Kirk podcast page.
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I can see through the back to the red light that kind of glows through the chair.
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In Tyler's defense, he is hiring hundreds of ballot chasers right now,
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and he had a very good week getting rid of Stephen Richer,
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We were talking about how, you know, punctual you are.
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You know, every cultural ethnicity in America thinks that they have invented being late.
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Well, I guess that's the inverse of the Protestant work ethic, right?
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You know, if you're early, you're on time, et cetera.
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But all of the other, you know, the ethnic groups out there are, you know, looking at that and saying, yeah, no, we're not on board with that one.
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So, Tyler, I want to let you leave the conversation.
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By the way, the communities of color of the – I believe it was the Seattle and Portland area have officially assigned the Slavic community to be considered a community of color.
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So as a proud – and I've always identified as a person of Polish descent, I, of course, can claim that I am on Slavic people time.
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I was just saying we're basically going to get to the point where it's like, you know, I'll be like the last white man in the world because I'll be just the only German.
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And it'll be like Ben Franklin's definition from back in the day.
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Have you ever read that where Ben Franklin basically says that, like, everyone in Europe is actually, like, a person of color in, like, 1700s terms?
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So, Tyler, we want you to lead our conversation here because it will segue into the Kamala stuff.
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But recap, Tyler, what happened with Stephen Richer, ballot chasing, and the primary this week in Arizona.
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Walk us through what unfolded here in State 48.
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We were on podcast with one of our ballot chasing managers who actually just won in city council here.
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And we were breaking down some of the numbers just from a general's perspective.
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The numbers are not yet in, Charlie, because they're still counting ballots across the state of Arizona.
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There was a law that was passed this last session that forced them to count through the night.
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So they're expecting that the final ballots will be counted this weekend and about another 100,000 ballots.
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But there was a huge tectonic shift that happened in this primary, which, number one, a lot more Republicans showed up than Democrats to the primary.
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Number two, you had in Maricopa County, the guy that is the chief elections official, his name is Stephen Richer.
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We've covered him extensively, if we remember the onesies, twosies, with Bill Gates and Stephen Richer.
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He was the guy that oversaw the disastrous election results that happened in 2022.
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It was his first general election as the chief elections officer.
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And like half the polling places had issues in Maricopa County.
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And the internal polling had him up like 10 points.
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Had him up 10 points in some of the internal polling.
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He ended up losing in a three-way race where another conservative actually split the vote.
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So this would have been an absolute total walloping had it just been a one-on-one between Justin and him.
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But Justin Heap, who is a Freedom Caucus member here in Arizona, he has 100% score on the Turning Point Action scorecard.
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He's a full Patriot, took him on, challenged him, and it was the biggest upset of the evening,
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which was that Justin Heap defeated Stephen Richer by a pretty decent margin.
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And so that was the late-breaking news that happened here in Arizona this week.
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Why this matters so much is because Stephen Richer was the face of Lincoln Project-style Republicans here, which are very few.
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The Democrats really didn't field a legit candidate because this was the Democrats' pick.
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So he got a lot of Democrat support, a lot of Democrat money in the primary.
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And still, the grassroots was able to, with very minimal resources, was able to upset, spread the word, and defeat Stephen Richer.
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So that's a big deal for a couple different reasons we can get into, but it definitely helps Trump through November here in Arizona.
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So I think that's, first of all, congratulations, Tyler, in Turning Point Action.
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And Tyler, can you give some idea, without any numbers, because we don't want to totally tell our enemy what we have here in Arizona ahead of November,
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but can you just give some idea of a ballpark scale of what we saw here on the ground in the primary
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and why that could be predictive heading into November?
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We wanted to use the primary as a practice ground with our ballot-chasing army.
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We have a lot of full-time people that were chasing ballots and using this as practice,
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knowing that we weren't going to get absolutely everybody out.
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Primaries generally, in most places in America, have turnouts around 20%.
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And I'm just giving kind of a ballpark for most Americans just to have a good idea.
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A really exciting primary will sometimes have upwards of 30% turnout.
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Most general elections usually are like 60, historically have been 60 to 70% turnout.
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So it's usually less than half of who actually turns out in the general.
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We saw, Charlie, in some of our key target precincts, close to 50% turnout in this primary.
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We have some, we're still waiting for the data to come in, so we don't want to get overly excited.
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But I think we will have a couple of precincts at least that break that.
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I mean, we're talking like in some states, that's general election numbers for turnout for Republicans.
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One, we have a really exciting year ahead of us.
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That's a good sign ahead of this general election.
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Charlie hears it all the time at freedom at charliekirk.com.
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You're going to lose just like all this blackpilling type stuff on the election manipulation the Democrats participate in.
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Not always the way that they describe it, but it's sometimes a little bit more in the weeds.
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But this election in particular, why I'm so excited about it, is if they could have done anything to save Stephen Richer, they would have.
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The national news media was lamenting the defeat of Stephen Richer.
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But if they are flawed beyond repair or flawed beyond any chance of victory, they would have done Venezuela for Stephen Richer.
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What we were able to prove is that, yes, there are major issues.
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However, they are overcomable with good candidate, grassroots work, and grassroots hustle.
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And this is really critical for those that are listening at home in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in places where we've just been, in Michigan, where the election laws are absolutely horrendous, in Wisconsin, where there's so many of our grassroots that just don't trust the process.
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And rightfully so, that you can overcome things you can't win.
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Now, you've got to keep in mind, anytime that you oust an incumbent, it doesn't matter if it's ours or theirs, meaning on the more moderate side or the more conservative side.
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It makes it organically more difficult to win in the general.
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Because you have to be able to reintroduce this person to the entire society.
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And remember, majority of those people don't vote in a primary.
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So, presidential year, you have everybody voting, for the most part.
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So, it is really incumbent upon the Republican Party, on every major person.
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She has been right there, right behind Justin Heap, saying his name to as many people, giving the full support.
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All reintroducing this person and saying, this is the guy we totally trust.
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Otherwise, you run the risk of losing, no matter who that is.
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I want to say, please finish the thought that I want to nationalize it.
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And I wanted to just take that, and maybe that's a good transition, is that is true everywhere.
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And so, a lot of people who consider themselves conservative, MAGA, you have to keep in mind that when we win, the game's not over today.
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You have to, we have to work together to be able to reintroduce to the entire Republican Party who these people are.
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I believe that in a week where there's been some tough news items, this was the best news of the week.
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That what happened in Arizona showing that the strength of the grassroots, the turnout, that is a very strong prediction.
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We have hundreds of thousands of registered Republicans that do not live here over the summer.
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So, the state actually gets redder and redder the closer we get to November.
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Now, let me now talk about Kamala Harris here in regards to this.
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So, there is a fair amount of just doom looping that is happening because we grew so used to running up against a corpse, Joe Biden.
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Some people in the audience are not sure what's going on.
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In fact, some of the fundamentals are actually very healthy.
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Number one, according to a very, very trusted poll, Donald Trump is up 10 points in Ohio.
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If that ends up materializing, that'll be two points better than 2020.
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Secondly, a University of North Florida poll, which is a great pollster, shows Donald Trump up seven in Florida,
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which is three and a half points better, nearly double the amount of margin of victory back in 2020.
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One showed that Kamala Harris is up in Arizona.
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But another one showed that Donald Trump was up five, another Trump up six.
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The point I'm getting at here is that even though she is having a little bit of a honeymoon period,
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that we are stronger than we were in 2020 in Ohio, stronger than we were in 2020 in Florida.
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Now, mind you, those are not the swing states that will determine the entire election.
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However, it is important to understand that this is by no means a collapse.
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This is a little bit of what we could call Democrats coming home.
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Against Joe Biden, only 72% of Democrats were voting for Joe Biden or comfortable with Joe Biden.
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Now, 91%, 91% of Democrats are voting for Kamala Harris,
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whereas 92% of Republicans are voting for Donald Trump.
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So what you have not seen is necessarily Kamala Harris winning over independents.
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This is going to be an annoying August where Democrats are going to get a lot of positive headlines,
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But we must continue to define terms, who she is, what she stands for, how she's unlikable,
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how she is mean, how she is fake, how she is phony and radical.
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Jack Posobiec, your thoughts on the state of the race.
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Look, I think there's a lot of blackpilling going on out there.
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But at the same time, keep in mind that it was the movement that you're seeing,
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the enthusiasm that you're seeing is all on the Democrat side.
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We thought it was going to be this big blowout with Joe Biden on the ballot,
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But people also have to realize that, and I think some people are, but I want to hear,
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and I was at the Trump rally last night in Harrisburg, and he spoke to this as well.
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What he really focused on more was the system that we're up against.
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And he, of course, uses this line again and again with, you know,
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they're not really after me, they're after you, I'm just in the way.
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So, yes, I think he needs to frame the race as himself versus the system,
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that Kamala is just whatever current avatar of the system that they have.
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That's how you get these independents back on board,
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plus the enthusiastic base support that he's already got.
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Of course, we saw that in droves in Pennsylvania and in Harrisburg,
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and then driving up here to Butler, Pennsylvania, you know, just flags and signs all over the place in western Pennsylvania.
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The key difference, I think, really is that what they're trying to push now is this new narrative candidate.
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And I really do think that there's a lot of definitional issues going on.
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J.D. Vance, by the way, has a great job of this.
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And I've got to say, the J.D. Vance fighting back against the narrative with his own narrative.
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What did he do today that we haven't seen him do yet on the trail?
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He was walking around looking like a member of the muscular class.
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I've said this on Twitter a couple of times, but, you know, you had hillbilly elegy.
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Actually embrace that, lean into it, show that J.D. Vance is a man of the people, show that J.D. Vance isn't just talking about the forgotten men and women.
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And talking about stories about how his, that when he was growing up and when his mother would take drugs or opioids before the fentanyl crisis and would take that.
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And he would be sitting there as a little boy holding his mom's hand, waiting for her to wake up.
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Those are the types of stories that you need to be using.
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And I think it's fantastic that he's telling those stories.
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It's not necessarily by, by trying to refute her every point here or there because she's not making any points.
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Her whole points are vote for me because of my identity.
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But unfortunately, because of the chronic propaganda that's going on in this country for 40 to 50 years now, there are millions of Americans that will vote because of that.
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They'll vote just for the narrative, which J.D. Vance has started to do and is really doing writ large, leaning into hillbilly elegy and standing up for a group of people that have been largely forgotten.
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Which, oh, by the way, and this speaks to the strategic importance of the pick, those groups of people are centralized in the exact states that Donald Trump needs to win in order to return to the White House.
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Yeah, and the fundamentals are still good and they're not going to change dramatically.
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People are not happy with the direction of the country.
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No matter how much Kamala propaganda that there is, Kamala propaganda that there is, that is not going to change.
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J.D. Vance has had a great couple of days and he's been treated very, very unfairly.
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We should get into the whole J.D. Vance thing because he is the pro-family candidate.
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If you want to have a family, if you have a strong family and you believe in strong families, J.D. Vance is your guy.
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The Democrats do not believe in families and they never have.
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The former president's comments yesterday to the National Association of Black Journalists where he said that Vice President Harris is, quote, all of a sudden black.
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As a father of three biracial children, did those comments give you pause at all?
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Look, all he said is that Kamala Harris is a chameleon.
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She is everything to everybody and she presents students to be somebody different depending on which audience she's in front of.
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I think it's totally reasonable for the president to call that out.
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I mean, look, she's running as a tough on crime prosecutor, even though she implemented open border policy.
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She's saying that she wants to support the police, yet she wanted to defund the police just three years ago.
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So it's totally reasonable to call out the fact that she pretends to be somebody different depending on the audience she's talking to.
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Your thoughts on this, on not just the J.D. Vance take, but the state of the race.
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Like I am becoming a crazy person over the last two weeks, like from the amount of whiplash, from the amount of I apologize for using this word, but gaslighting of me about Kamala by the press, by the Internet.
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And, you know, me, I like to fuss where I'll be like, well, what about this thing, Charlie, that happened two years ago?
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She got 15% off one of these media, you know, force memes like this where they just talk about how great she is and they talk about her a lot.
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I think she topped out in second place behind Biden in 2019.
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She's in that debate where she says that Joe Biden, you know, came on to her school bus to grab her and say, like, you can't go to the school with white children.
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And he, like, dragged her off to the segregated school.
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And it was probably made up, you know, at least in the details of how she described it.
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She fell apart because her campaign was badly run.
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And the reason she got picked as vice president was not because of any special qualities she had.
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It was because Biden had to cut a deal to win South Carolina.
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And it appears that that deal was basically you will choose an African-American as your vice president.
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And he wanted to pick a woman for vice president.
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So right down there, you're down to 5% of the population.
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5, 6% of the population is eligible for the vice presidential pick.
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And there were basically three or four people on the short list.
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So Joe Biden makes this pledge privately with Jim Clyburn, who basically runs South Carolina.
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And Jim Clyburn says, OK, you have to say in the debate that you're going to pick a black running mate.
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And so there's like that 90-second intermission where they say, we'll be right back after a commercial break.
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And Jim Clyburn literally gets up out of the stands, out of the seats, and goes onto the stage.
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And everyone's like, what is Jim Clyburn doing?
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He just like bulldozes through people, goes right up to Joe Biden, and literally is like, you need to mention the fact you're going to put a black person on the ticket.
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Like, if you can go look at the tape, you can pull the tape, like right after the commercial break.
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Like, Mr. Biden, going back to you, what is your stance on the Green New Deal?
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And he says, that's why I'll put a black person as my running mate.
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It's one of the greatest stories where Jim Clyburn basically just starts climbing over people.
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Like, the New York Times and Washington Post are putting out articles where they're just ponderously going,
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yeah, you know, Kamala has struggled to define her role in this administration.
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And then you dig into the details, and it's that everything that's given her as a portfolio is a total disaster.
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And just total disaster zone, which, like, no one thinks that if you had an open primary for the Democrat nomination that Kamala would have won it.
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No one was, like, excited to have her take over after Joe Biden.
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Nobody was thinking Kamala was the natural heir apparent.
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And basically, they go with her because they're desperate, and they think if we have an open primary, it'll rip the party apart, and we'll lose.
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And we're just suddenly chucking all of this, just mass hallucination, where we're suddenly going, like, Kamala is brat.
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Kamala is definitely qualified for this office.
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Kamala definitely is not just one disastrous, like, you know, Peter Principal promotion.
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She just fails and gets promoted over and over again.
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And that's not even getting into the stuff where, like, people aren't bringing it up because they're worried it'll just be received badly or sound wrong.
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Like, it is 100% objectively true that Kamala got a job paying her $150,000 a year to attend two meetings a week, or two meetings a month, paid for by California taxpayers because her boyfriend, who was married and 30 years older than her, just gave it to her.
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And you can find California newspapers saying, oh, it's really remarkable how Kamala was given this job she's not qualified for.
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She's the companion of Willie Brown and, you know, patronage, California.
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And we're like, oh, it makes perfect sense to run this person for president.
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Can I ask real quick, just while you're on that note, it seems like there's so many conservatives that are kind of falling for it, though.
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Have you noticed this, that, you know, in your view of the whole situation in your self-imposed exile last week, that it seems like a lot of conservatives and, like, right or right-adjacent commentators are just going along with it?
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I think I saw this repeatedly that, you know, it was Dane, like, they're saying don't touch certain parts of Kamala's history.
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But I do think with Trump, everyone he's gone against, there's almost been, one of his strengths is he finds that fatal flaw with a person and he picks at it over and over again.
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With Jeb Bush, that fatal flaw was, Jeb Bush really didn't want to be president.
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He just represented this machine and he was the next man up and no one really wanted this guy and he didn't want it.
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But with, you know, with Governor DeSantis, frankly, it was, you know, he's kind of, he's kind of a dork.
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He can do that to Republicans as well as Democrats.
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With Kamala, I think the fatal flaw is she's fake.
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Everything you are being told about her is like the ad campaign for a bad movie or a bad TV show.
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I think I saw on Twitter someone joked that Kamala Harris is like one of those Star Wars spinoff shows that gets a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, but then the audience reviews are 30% positive.
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We're having all these people come out and pretending that Kamala's amazing when we have literally decades of evidence of people on Kamala's own side believing, no, Kamala is not amazing.
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She's not really qualified for all of the like jobs that she is given.
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There are people who have worked for Trump for decades on end who say great things about Trump.
00:30:04.140
There's tons of great stories about how Trump gets along great with, you know, his caddies, with waiters.
00:30:10.880
There's a lot of people who have these warm interactions with Trump throughout his life.
00:30:19.700
Which goes to my, so which goes to my idea, which I am pushing privately and publicly.
00:30:24.180
And I, I've told the entire team and I got to call Trump about this and give him my opinion, which I don't care.
00:30:33.320
Yes, debate town hall format, the best for Trump to be able to interact and contrast with Kamala Harris.
00:30:40.200
Does everyone agree that that is the best venue for him to be able to succeed in that format and potentially even gain votes?
00:30:58.380
She did it in the debates in 2019 where she basically, you know, she got her 60 seconds to go blast Joe Biden and the press probably tipped off.
00:31:08.060
If this is what she would say beforehand, we're all there to say like, oh, Kamala made a strong showing in this debate.
00:31:12.280
But if you can muddle that even a bit, if you do a town hall where the questions are, you know, they're phrased a bit weirdly because it's an ordinary person or you just, you put her in a situation where she has to think on her feet and she cannot get away with recite a 60 second bit that she memorized beforehand.
00:31:29.840
It goes badly when she had that OK showing in the first Democrat debate.
00:31:35.120
Everyone after that, she was a mess because other Democrats would take shots at her and she couldn't handle it when she has to think on her feet as vice president.
00:31:46.660
They're just memory holing that she goes on a radio show.
00:31:49.900
They ask her about Ukraine and she describes Ukraine and Russia like the audience are literally in second grade.
00:32:00.780
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but, but I would, I, this is something I've always defended Kamala Harris on.
00:32:10.240
So when she says Ukraine and Russia, like Ukraine's a small country and Russia's a big country, like obviously that's very silly and childish.
00:32:17.760
But there's something else that's more to the point.
00:32:21.600
This has actually become a huge issue in the Ukraine war because, because Russia just has more resources to bring to bear.
00:32:29.560
And they're like, oh, Russia's losing soldiers and Russia's doing this, doing that.
00:32:32.600
And it's like, yeah, but Ukraine lost their entire army.
00:32:35.260
So it's actually something where it's like she, she was kind of right, but for the completely wrong reasons.
00:32:41.700
And yet all of the experts are completely wrong also for the wrong reasons.
00:32:54.240
I think that, uh, you know, I'll add kind of context to what Jack is saying.
00:33:00.060
I'm a big believer in speaking simple, you know, politics is just, I think we got the Republican party got so into this whole like Coke era.
00:33:08.080
Like every state needs to have these think tanks and we need to talk like we're like Stephen Moore at every dinner table and like everybody hates that.
00:33:17.880
And there's, and I get your point that just like, she's so obnoxiously stupid and silly and really has no idea what she's talking about.
00:33:24.800
But I think more people take away from Kamala Harris that listened to her of like, oh, she's relatable.
00:33:31.440
And I understand what she's saying and all of these things.
00:33:34.700
Right. And like, and again, I think this is part of the virtue of Donald Trump too, is that our side, especially the, you know, the regular man listens to Donald Trump.
00:33:44.080
They go, oh, I get what he's saying. I get what he's talking about.
00:33:46.700
And unfortunately for America, Kamala's baby talk, simplistic, uh, you know, overtones that she has with every single issue that's brought to her as vice president of the United States of America, a heartbeat away from the presidency.
00:34:01.680
She probably should be the president right now because who knows what Joe Biden's doing in real life.
00:34:07.920
But this is something that works, unfortunately, with most of America.
00:34:17.060
We're just going to have baby talk president and she'll have 70% approval.
00:34:21.380
And they'll just be like, I like, well, hold on.
00:34:24.700
I, I want to say though, that there's a place for sophisticated language.
00:34:28.640
I think part of Vivek's appeal was that he would use bigger words and increased vocabulary.
00:34:36.240
If you talk really, really fast, like Vivek does or Ben Shapiro does, or at times I do, I think that anybody can be appealing to that because it's almost kind of becomes a performance sport.
00:34:45.600
But if you talk really slow with big words, people just kind of lose you.
00:34:56.000
Like, it's like not everybody can play guitar, but if you, if you can play guitar slowly and people are like, okay, fine, whatever you're in a bar or something.
00:35:03.080
But if you're like Steve Vai up there or, you know, Kirk Hammett going at it or Billy Corrigan or something, suddenly people are like, oh, wow, that's amazing.
00:35:10.960
Even if, you know, it's totally beyond their ken.
00:35:16.400
This is part of the whole turning point appeal, which is like, again, I think of it in terms of the conservative movement.
00:35:23.680
Think tank language, like Charlie said, has a place.
00:35:27.620
The place just happens to not be in like presidential elections, unfortunately.
00:35:33.340
It has, I think it has more appeal in a primary setting where you have, you know, probably more aware and interested folks.
00:35:42.220
I actually think that this is the scary point to what you're bringing up.
00:35:45.880
Kamala is a more dangerous general candidate than she is a primary candidate.
00:35:51.340
I do think, I hope, this is really just hope, I should say.
00:35:55.060
I hope that, I think you can be more simple, more direct if it helps that the sense is that you're being honest and maybe being serious.
00:36:07.460
Trump kind of, he had this power starting all the way back in 2015 that he could cut through BS.
00:36:13.540
And that was the directness of Trump that was appealing.
00:36:17.640
He'd come down the escalator and he'd come out and say, all the stuff they're saying is complex about the border.
00:36:25.800
It's a bunch of criminals and rapists and drug dealers and murderers are crossing the border, send them back, build a wall.
00:36:34.260
And it's not straightforward in a I'm talking to a baby sort of sense.
00:36:37.940
It's straightforward in the sense of this is a clear moral issue.
00:36:56.180
I feel like with Kamala, she doesn't do that, at least in the, you know, the clips that go viral for us.
00:37:02.980
It's like simple in the sense of she's doing a rehearsed politician bit.
00:37:10.120
So she has to do like the, I'm a, I'm a fifth grader playing a vice president, except now she actually is running and we're going to be punished with this because we are a sinful nation.
00:37:22.640
So let me just say one thing about, uh, so this has been memory hold.
00:37:26.280
It's so hard to find, by the way, I will give a hundred dollars.
00:37:32.000
I've spent hours looking for this and I'm sure you guys have had this experience.
00:37:35.480
This was back in 2016 where, and it has been totally memory hold of this PhD who studies language.
00:37:43.940
Uh, what would you, what would that would be called?
00:37:56.500
No, it's someone who studies the, the, the roots of words and where they come from.
00:38:01.480
Anyway, so, um, etymology, etymology, etymologist, yeah.
00:38:08.720
So anyway, that, so they, it could be a mixture between a linguist and an entomologist.
00:38:14.500
Anyway, so he was a PhD and this was back in August of 2016 and he basically went on some show and he said,
00:38:24.880
And everyone, like the host was like, what are you talking about?
00:38:26.780
He's like, I study language for a living and let me show you why.
00:38:29.760
And it was this amazing five minute video where he just took a random Donald Trump interview.
00:38:34.080
And he says, he does not use words that are more than two syllables unless he absolutely has to.
00:38:40.060
And the way he talks in the choppy manner is so digestible and it resonates with people in such a way.
00:38:46.100
He said, this is 40 years of somebody that has studied himself on TV and that has made his speech patterns in a,
00:38:53.220
the highest impactful way that a human being possibly can.
00:38:57.020
And he said, this is, this has been trained into him for 40 years.
00:39:00.920
And for example, he'll just say, and the war in Iraq was a mess.
00:39:08.080
I mean, it's very precise language, hard punching.
00:39:13.720
And he accurately said that he was able to talk to the common man.
00:39:23.360
It was, it like went viral in 2016 a couple of times.
00:39:28.320
And if he broke it down from the actual, he has like an equation where he's like, if it's
00:39:32.600
more than X, Y, Z syllables over 500 words, you're going to lose the audience.
00:39:36.880
If it's less than five X, Y, Z syllables, then you're able to maintain the audience.
00:39:40.960
And he has this equation and Donald Trump got like the highest or lowest score as you will.
00:39:44.780
And he says, usually the people get low scores are considered to be dumb, but in presidential
00:39:51.760
And that's why I think Kamala is so dangerous in a general is because her simplistic nature
00:39:57.760
actually is a huge asset, especially because she's basically like a Manchurian candidate.
00:40:04.720
So, I mean, they could literally just stick her out just for simple things, say things
00:40:15.660
Like Katie Hobbs never came out of her hole except for very few things.
00:40:19.120
Here in Arizona, we have a few other examples of this where it's like, when they don't trust
00:40:24.900
That is actually the biggest, best defense against Donald Trump that the Democrats could
00:40:35.320
So to that point, like she's, we got to try to force her to come out and talk more because
00:40:40.040
the more she talks to Charlie's point is like, the more she's going to lose people and the
00:40:45.720
more people are going to resonate with Donald Trump.
00:40:48.140
But this is like, this week is a perfect example is Donald Trump is outgoing long form in things,
00:40:55.940
And we're talking about like this, this interview that happened this week.
00:41:03.940
There's so many good clips, but the average American is only reading the short quip headlines
00:41:16.860
A lot of what Donald Trump does is because of what Charlie is talking about right now,
00:41:22.640
One thing I like to point out with Trump is they'll say, like people say he's like dumb
00:41:28.500
And actually, if you look at sometimes even when his language is confusing, it's because
00:41:33.000
it's almost, it's like overloaded with ideas that he's struggling to like efficiently put
00:41:38.900
One that stood out to me even yesterday was when he was at the black journalist event is
00:41:44.580
they made a quip about like the vice presidency and why the pick matters.
00:41:48.940
And he kind of just says in passing, he's like, yeah, you know, one of the things about
00:41:53.760
the vice president pick is it doesn't matter for the race as much as people think it does.
00:41:59.020
So, you know, kind of saying you pick them for the actual successor thing, not just to
00:42:03.840
And he's like, and you know, in the past it hasn't mattered much except, you know, for
00:42:07.700
LBJ who it mattered, but for a political reason, not an electoral one.
00:42:11.960
And so like what he's actually saying there, and he doesn't elaborate on this and you have
00:42:15.860
to be a nerd to even notice it, but he's basically saying picking LBJ mattered because he helped
00:42:21.040
JFK steal the election in Texas in 1960, which is this stray fact Donald Trump happens to remember
00:42:30.140
He probably learned decades ago, maybe someone, he read the Carol book or someone summarized
00:42:36.880
And he just like sort of alludes to this in passing, 99% of the people are just going
00:42:42.620
to think he's being confusing, but that's clearly what he's actually referencing.
00:42:47.280
He's like overloaded with ideas and that's why he can be so effective just going for hours
00:42:54.740
That's why he can actually sometimes be, he can just talk for two hours and it'll almost
00:42:58.760
be tedious because he's got so much stuff he can recall.
00:43:02.200
He doesn't need the notes, doesn't need a teleprompter.
00:43:04.380
He can just go even, yeah, Andrew says, even, even when Trump is telling a fib, he's actually
00:43:13.420
It's, uh, he, well, but this is, this is the thing is that, that Trump Mac tells, Trump
00:43:18.080
tells macro truths, which is why they hate him.
00:43:21.480
The macro truths of Donald Trump are, what is, what is this NATO thing?
00:43:28.900
That's like, you're not allowed to say that you're not allowed.
00:43:32.120
What, Jack, what was the Scott Adams quote about Donald Trump's, uh, ability to tell
00:43:38.500
What, what was, he talks about directional accuracy, like directionally accurate.
00:43:44.680
So it's, it's the idea that he, or he also has a quote, I think he says, um, no, I know
00:43:50.140
He says, um, Democrats take him literally conservatives understand him figuratively, you know, something
00:43:58.540
along those lines where he's saying that we like people, people know that he doesn't
00:44:02.900
actually mean there's hundreds of millions of illegals spilling over.
00:44:06.260
He's painting a picture and then they'll go, well, actually it was 25 billion, not hundreds
00:44:10.800
of millions or something like this, but people understand that he's, he's using language as
00:44:15.700
He's using it to paint pictures, very visual speaker.
00:44:18.940
And they'll, they'll nitpick little things that he's made like that, you know, billions
00:44:23.260
and billions or something like this over and over, but he's doing so to draw your attention
00:44:27.760
to the fact that something is much larger than it should be.
00:44:30.280
And it's always far more directionally accurate than when you're hearing someone try to, uh,
00:44:37.860
And then also to your point of what you were saying earlier, that this is why Donald Trump's
00:44:42.040
resonance with voters is much stronger than say, Paul Ryan, when he was running around
00:44:47.220
with his bow tie and his PowerPoint talking about why he was going to cut everyone's entitlement
00:44:50.840
programs, because they can understand what Trump is saying better.
00:44:54.320
And then it has that emotional resonance with them because it's stuff that they've been
00:44:58.160
wondering themselves or stuff they've been thinking about, filling in the gaps of things
00:45:02.800
It's also one of the reasons why, by the way, I, and I've said this forever, that when
00:45:07.220
you're listening to Donald Trump, especially listening and watching that you can understand
00:45:13.100
him so much better because 90% of communication is nonverbal than when you're just reading a
00:45:18.640
transcript, this is what they'll do this with everything, the Charlottesville hoax, with
00:45:22.340
the drinking bleach hoax, they'll show you the transcript and they'll say, Oh, here's the
00:45:28.460
But then if you look at him in public, or if he's telling a joke or being sarcastic,
00:45:32.260
which he's done so many times, you can tell from all of the nonverbal body cues that he's
00:45:37.740
giving that obviously he's intending something as a joke or obviously he's being sarcastic
00:45:45.500
And of course, that doesn't transfer over into direct text.
00:45:50.820
And so if you're just reading a transcript of it, then you're you're not getting you're
00:45:57.160
I want to play this piece of tape here, Kamala Harris, who has yet to do a press conference,
00:46:01.960
take a single question since being the nominee, since Biden has been forced off the ballot.
00:46:08.460
But I just want us all to acknowledge that Donald Trump has changed the way that we all
00:46:12.600
Can we all agree with this in our public speaking, Jack?
00:46:15.440
I mean, we all now have a little bit of Trumpian aspect of how we do the body language, right?
00:46:22.520
Like someone I know, someone said that they started talking like Trump at the office place
00:46:27.280
and he like got promoted like like twice as fast than he would have.
00:46:34.660
And I would love to actually ask Donald Trump once he becomes president and say, so is this
00:46:41.340
something that someone taught you or that you coached yourself through a series of self
00:46:47.160
Because I'd be fascinated from you know that a public to to to who?
00:46:59.160
The the preacher, I didn't know that he actually is that actually take him to Norman Vincent
00:47:06.540
He had a church in New York that his father, Fred, would take him to like all the time.
00:47:11.340
I think part of I did not know that I think part of the trouble our positive thinking.
00:47:20.260
I think part of it's the New York part of it's probably I mean, just being around so
00:47:24.060
many people, I think also just in real estate and doing deals and things like that.
00:47:28.320
I think when you talk about a person like him, he's very much and Charlie has seen this
00:47:33.820
in real time to up close is he's the kind of guy where he wants to get to points very
00:47:39.740
quickly. He wants to get to the point and in so much that like there'll be a conflict
00:47:44.120
and instead of just discussing the conflict for minutes or hours with people, he'll just
00:47:49.940
be like, get this other person on the line or get the other person in here and let's
00:47:53.920
But that's like a that's a very common Trump thing.
00:47:56.160
And that to me, that is something that is like really adjacent to how he talks, which
00:48:02.720
is like it's just like he just wants to get to points.
00:48:10.060
And he reaffirms everything because when you're again talking with people, sometimes in large
00:48:19.400
He says it four different ways, four different times, makes it as simple as possible and gets
00:48:24.480
I'm now just imagining a pastor talking in full Trump mode.
00:48:28.520
So just like Jesus, Jesus, he had the biggest, the biggest assemblies.
00:48:33.500
They, they, they fed over 5,000 people with just a few loaves and a few fish.
00:48:47.420
We could have, the entire Trump hotel, all the taco bowls could have, could have been made
00:48:52.980
with just the leftovers from when they fed the 5,000 and just going on like that for
00:49:02.920
He's, he's totally infected the way everyone talks.
00:49:05.060
Just think of the number of even just stray phrases that are Trump isms just saying sad
00:49:17.460
You're telling me for the first time, which might be one of the greatest Trump moments
00:49:20.200
and underrated, I think it's one of the most underrated Trump moments ever where he could
00:49:24.740
have like gotten blown out in 2020 if he messed this up and he comes off of a rally.
00:49:31.160
And you're telling me for the first time, she was a wonderful person.
00:49:39.800
We would not have gotten a Supreme court seat if Donald Trump would have just been like,
00:49:50.500
This is so Kamala Harris refuses to take questions.
00:49:59.840
Will you be meeting Evan and Paul when they return?
00:50:14.420
Charlie, you're telling me she hasn't taken one questions and she became the presumptive
00:50:18.980
Not an interview, not a question, not a remark, nothing.
00:50:22.040
Since, since she has taken over, not a, not, not a single vote.
00:50:27.920
Meanwhile, Donald Trump goes up against the most vicious people that you could possibly
00:50:33.240
imagine at the national association of black journalists.
00:50:36.480
Jack, I think we need to emphasize this and force Kamala Harris into the press conference.
00:50:41.000
She, they're trying to do the basement strategy, but you know, it's not going to work.
00:50:44.460
She's the sitting vice president of the United States.
00:50:49.640
You have duties and responsibilities right now, right now, Jack.
00:50:53.120
I think this is something that we need to exploit.
00:50:55.020
No, this is something, and that's obviously something where, of course, when we have all
00:51:00.540
those reporters reaching out to us saying, oh, what did you mean by this?
00:51:04.240
Or, you know, we're watching thought crimes like they do every week and say, what did you
00:51:11.240
Why are you so worried about what Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec are saying on podcasts, and
00:51:16.340
yet you're not spending any time with just an ounce of curiosity what the sitting vice
00:51:22.880
president, who is effectively, as far as we know, running the White House at this point,
00:51:27.000
is doing on a day-to-day basis and not answering any questions from the media after being handed
00:51:36.900
That's something where, by the way, if you're ever dealing with one of these organizations,
00:51:41.920
that's what you always have to call into question.
00:51:48.080
And if you can call into question whether or not they're being journalists and actually
00:51:51.420
show them something that they are doing on one side and not on the other.
00:51:54.680
And I'm not saying just one of those like, oh, you're being mean to Trump.
00:52:01.040
That's something that you can put over with the American people.
00:52:03.940
That's something you can explain to anybody on the street and say, why?
00:52:06.900
Isn't it kind of weird that she just got the nomination without anybody voting for her?
00:52:11.400
They threw out the primary and the media won't ask them a single question.
00:52:18.220
And eventually you'll get somebody like a Jake Tapper who's so vainglorious, has such
00:52:22.720
high self-esteem, just believes, worships himself.
00:52:25.960
You get somebody like that and suddenly it's going to get under their skin.
00:52:29.020
It's going to get under their skin to the point where they're going to have to make it happen.
00:52:32.240
But yeah, and this is probably the number one reason why I support, even though this
00:52:39.080
completely screws up the whole Trump 47 stitching on everybody's hats, is I totally support,
00:52:45.560
you know, forcing Kamala into the presidency because this, this, that would for sure.
00:52:51.160
I am deathly afraid they're going to pull what they do in 2020 with Joe Biden.
00:52:55.380
And they're going to find every excuse in the book.
00:52:58.940
We only have, you know, seven weeks here, right.
00:53:04.040
They can, they can, they can run out the, they can run out the clock for seven weeks for
00:53:10.360
And so the only way that they can't is if she is forcibly put into the presidency, uh,
00:53:17.940
And that, that's the scary part is we don't know where Joe Biden, how he's actually doing
00:53:23.780
So I, well, so they would have been smart to be honest.
00:53:27.000
Like they would have been smart to have her do some really like easy sit down interviews
00:53:32.320
They are now broadcasting how insecure they are about her.
00:53:35.720
This has now gotten to the place where we are going on two weeks where she has not taken
00:53:43.380
Oh, they're very afraid of her ability to have dialogue and discourse.
00:53:50.260
We must, we must force her into the public light.
00:53:53.160
I, I just brought, uh, dug this up because I remembered reading this.
00:53:57.380
So this is from 2019 and it was a dad whose son worked in an unpaid internship for Kamala
00:54:06.940
And I guess it didn't go well because it went bad enough that the dad wrote an op-ed for,
00:54:11.960
uh, the union, which appears to be some local paper in California.
00:54:19.120
I would like to share if his month long internship for Kamala Harris one Senator Harris vocally
00:54:25.600
throws around F bombs and other profanity constantly in her berating of staff and others.
00:54:31.840
The staff is in complete fear of her and she uses her profanity throughout the day.
00:54:36.440
Second, as attorney general, Senator Harris instructed her entire staff to stand every
00:54:44.040
morning as she entered the office and say, good morning, general.
00:54:49.900
Uh, he also says never once during the month long internship did Harris introduce herself
00:54:54.800
to the sun and he was in a staff of 20 paid employees, like a, a Senate office.
00:55:01.620
I was introduced to the Senator that I worked for and he knew my name.
00:55:09.260
Uh, and then the only acknowledgement was a form letter of thanks.
00:55:13.380
Gregory, the son was also given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the
00:55:19.820
eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.
00:55:28.740
Like they're basically saying, don't bother her.
00:55:30.760
And maybe that came through as like, don't look her in the eye.
00:55:34.200
I can see that being exaggerated, but hear me out here.
00:55:37.340
Ryan, can you get this latest tape here of her coming out of the car?
00:55:40.140
Now I might be nitpicking here, but I don't think I am.
00:55:43.580
And I just, this is a, this is Kamala Harris coming out of the car and just the way that
00:55:51.940
Can we get this up on screen as the B roll where she just kind of like flippantly throws
00:55:55.780
the phone to just quote unquote, the help, you know, doesn't even say, you know, thank
00:56:02.160
Again, I I've kind of probably done this body gesture before, but she just, she comes out
00:56:11.720
She doesn't take a single response from the media, none whatsoever.
00:56:16.140
And I might be over like thinking this, but she just kind of just throws it there.
00:56:21.460
Um, and look, she's, this plays into this narrative where you're like, did I hear you
00:56:31.560
Gregory was given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the eye as that privilege
00:56:43.100
I wasn't allowed to refer to Charlie by name until I'd worked here for at least eight months.
00:57:00.680
I remember you looked in Charlie's, it wasn't looking him in the eye.
00:57:05.540
It was like, you know, the ancient Hawaiian, it was like the ancient Hawaiian Kings.
00:57:09.320
If your shadow fell on his shadow, you broke the taboo and had to be executed.
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And then you had to go outside, take off your shirt.
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So, uh, let's, let's summarize this all together here.
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Mocking and humiliating Kamala Harris, how insincere and fake she is.
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Because everything about Kamala Harris rollout, it's phony and it's fake.
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Did you see when President Obama and Michelle called?
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Listen, we just want to congratulate you on destroying Joe Biden.
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Was that the phoniest phone call you've ever seen?
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In your district, you wouldn't get away with it, would you?
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I was just going to say, yeah, Kamala strikes me as.
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Uh, terrible bosses is that was called horrible, horrible bosses.
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She does kind of remind me of that, like that character that like, uh, that type of character
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where it's just like, and everybody's worked for a bad boss, just doesn't care about you
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that much, you know, is, you know, just, you're kind of in and out all that.
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The hard part about her, and this is politics in general, is that there are some people involved
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politics that are exactly like Kamala, have no reason to get where they get to.
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They're not really genuinely, um, regarded, highly regarded people, but they just kind
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They, we talked about that all the time in politics and that's truly who she is.
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She has just like failed upwards her entire career, uh, because of it's just convenience,
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I think mostly, uh, and, and adjacency to a lot of convenience.
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And she hits like, she's been there to hit the demographic checkbox when they need it.
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They were like, we got to replace Barbara Boxer.
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The way that she's like faking the whole thing.
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She doesn't even know how to hold up a phone for speakerphone.
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We called to say Michelle and I couldn't be prouder to endorse you and to do everything
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we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.
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I am looking forward to doing this with the two of you, Doug and I both, and getting
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Most of all, I just want to tell you, the words you have spoken and the friendship that
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you have given over all these years mean more than I can express.
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And we're going to have some fun with this too, aren't we?
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The sad thing is, it makes me think of the viral reaction to this.
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The viral reaction to this makes me think of how on YouTube and Facebook and stuff, there's
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a whole sub-genre of those kind of fake videos where it'll be like, Karen is racist and then
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And there will be all these comments from people who seem to think that this is real.
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This is a transparently fake scene that was shot for the cameras for the campaign.
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And then people are looking like, wow, so amazing how there's this warmth between Kamala and
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And if it works, I will just, I'll just want to die.
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I'll just want to crawl into a hole and, and I don't know, eat, eat a bunch of caramel
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But if I eat too much of it, I'll look like Charlie pre-PhD weight loss.
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And if we lose, who knows, I'd have to go back on PhD weight loss.
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I mean, we were going to do all these other topics, but the race is just, you know, so
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First thing, we can't, in general, let the Trump assassination go.
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We can't let that, the media define our narratives.
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We're actually talking about potentially even doing another book this year on this very
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topic, which is kind of insane to do two books in one year, but why not?
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And as far as fake Kamala, fake, fake, fake, fake, fake Kamala, you know, all I have to
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say is, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, chameleon.
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If I was a member of the media, I would be so embarrassed of myself and my profession that
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we, that my entire workplace hasn't asked Kamala a single question since she's gotten
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in, and that, to me, would make me want to quit, like, learn to code, do something different,
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something more productive with society, because if you can't ask the nominee for one of the
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two major parties a single question before, for vetting before they go to the convention,
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like, what's the point of even having journalists?
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And speaking of, she has, like, 92% staff turnover and always has.
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We got every single tell-all from, like, we're getting people who are J.D. Vance's, like,
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You mean to tell me that there can't be journalists who find every single person who's ever worked
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for Kamala and none of them have anything, have anything to say?
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None of them have maybe, have had a bad enough experience that I might actually dump on her
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I just, I refuse to believe that we are so far gone that everyone is just going to fall
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She has failed her way upward every step of her life.
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I do not, I do not think that the United States is ready to have a Peter principal president.
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We are not going to promote this non-emptity into the chair that George Washington's butt
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And that's who, yeah, you know, she's just bad.