Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 10, 2024


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 53 β€” All About Tim Walz


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

198.28256

Word Count

11,299

Sentence Count

1,023

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Jack Posobiec and the Philadelphia Inquirer is back, and he's got a special guest on the pod to talk about it. Also, the Dbacks are back in the playoffs, and the Dodgers are not.


Transcript

00:00:00.080 From the age of big brother.
00:00:02.440 If they want to get you, they'll get you.
00:00:05.040 DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
00:00:08.940 They're collecting your communications.
00:00:19.020 Okay, everybody.
00:00:20.460 All right.
00:00:21.180 Hello.
00:00:21.660 How are you?
00:00:22.120 I got to fix my hair.
00:00:23.320 It's Thought Crime Thursday.
00:00:24.540 It was just gotten done working out.
00:00:26.560 We have Blake here.
00:00:27.580 Howdy.
00:00:27.880 We have Tyler with his Arizona Diamondbacks.
00:00:30.420 How are the Diamondbacks doing this year?
00:00:31.940 We had two games.
00:00:33.020 Is it D-backs or Diamondbacks?
00:00:34.560 We say D-backs here.
00:00:37.300 And they were playing a doubleheader today.
00:00:39.140 They'll always be the Diamondbacks to me.
00:00:40.480 Are they keeping the momentum from last year's loss?
00:00:43.380 They've had a ton of injuries this year.
00:00:46.220 But they've played pretty well considering the injuries.
00:00:48.800 62-52.
00:00:49.820 I think that's good enough for a wild card.
00:00:51.680 Are they in the NL West?
00:00:53.820 I'm not sure.
00:00:54.500 NL West.
00:00:54.820 Ooh, they're on an 8-2 run.
00:00:56.280 Wow, these guys are kicking butt.
00:00:57.180 As long as you get hot.
00:00:57.880 You're going to beat the Dodgers.
00:00:58.640 Oh, I think they beat...
00:01:00.420 I mean, we've got the Brewers coming up playing the Dodgers next week, actually during their
00:01:04.880 primary.
00:01:05.840 So we're pulling for the Brewers to beat the Dodgers.
00:01:08.500 That's great.
00:01:09.620 It's the NL West.
00:01:09.840 Andrew's not here.
00:01:10.500 Andrew's not here.
00:01:11.260 He's on vacay.
00:01:12.320 So we can trash the Dodgers.
00:01:13.520 Yeah, Dodgers...
00:01:14.220 By the way, anyone who likes the Dodgers...
00:01:15.420 Take them down.
00:01:16.040 ...it goes down in my book.
00:01:16.940 It's automatically...
00:01:18.340 Honestly, I feel like people who like the Dodgers should be rounded up.
00:01:22.100 We're not going to go that far.
00:01:24.100 But no, the Dodgers are the easiest team to cheer for because they're always good.
00:01:28.740 They have the biggest budget.
00:01:29.560 Like, there's no effort.
00:01:30.320 There's no pain.
00:01:30.920 There's nothing.
00:01:31.540 Nothing.
00:01:31.700 Right?
00:01:32.040 It's like the Yankees.
00:01:32.840 So, we're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:01:36.780 And last week...
00:01:38.660 No, no.
00:01:38.940 This is...
00:01:39.340 I don't think I've ever...
00:01:41.840 Slow clap.
00:01:42.380 ...appreciated Jack before?
00:01:43.600 No.
00:01:43.760 I understand.
00:01:44.480 No.
00:01:44.780 I've never actually...
00:01:46.720 I don't think I've ever, like, stroked Jack's ego.
00:01:51.020 Like, I've never done, like, that whole thing.
00:01:52.900 Because...
00:01:53.300 I just don't do that.
00:01:55.140 But it's pretty amazing.
00:01:56.560 So, Jack, I'll talk and then you can listen and then you can tell the story.
00:02:00.060 I can say confidently, I believe...
00:02:02.120 I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:02:06.560 And that is...
00:02:07.500 I'll be honest.
00:02:09.280 This is not bluster.
00:02:10.960 This is not...
00:02:11.900 This is not Charlie, like, trying to score points.
00:02:14.400 I have nothing to benefit from here except I call balls and strikes.
00:02:17.980 And I was...
00:02:19.960 Jack's going to get a kick out of this.
00:02:20.940 I started...
00:02:21.420 I said...
00:02:22.040 It was Thursday night and Jack just started going on these, like, quasi-autistic rants against Shapiro.
00:02:26.720 I mean, it was every four minutes on my Telegram.
00:02:30.880 It was like, I have receipts, Josh.
00:02:33.900 You're not going to like this, Josh.
00:02:35.620 And I was like, here we go.
00:02:37.940 And I gave it, like, 99 to 1 odds that Jack...
00:02:41.380 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:02:42.560 And did I produce?
00:02:44.120 No, Jack, I started with the goods, okay?
00:02:46.380 I started with saying that I'm appreciating your results here.
00:02:49.400 And then all of a sudden, on Friday afternoon, I was like, man, he's getting some traction on this stuff.
00:02:54.720 And, like, Jack is talking about the fact that, you know, he might be in an IDF uniform and, like, all these, like, left-wing forums are exploding.
00:03:04.500 And the betting markets had Shapiro at 80%.
00:03:06.960 Then it was, like, 70%.
00:03:08.460 Then it was 60%.
00:03:10.000 And next thing I...
00:03:11.760 You know, all of a sudden, there's these stories being leaked on Sunday about Walls maybe being the guy.
00:03:16.720 I was like, did Jack Posobiec just dethrone a 5'3 sitting governor of Pennsylvania?
00:03:21.740 The craziest one for me was when I saw the story start going, like, oh, this suicide ruling from a decade ago.
00:03:26.580 I'm like, oh, this has to be something really stupid.
00:03:30.080 And then I bring up this Philadelphia Inquirer article.
00:03:33.260 I'm like, whoa, they lost the psychologist report on this?
00:03:37.840 What?
00:03:38.680 No, no.
00:03:39.040 And I was like, okay, this is, you know, where are we at on this?
00:03:41.400 Because, I mean, Jack's from Pennsylvania.
00:03:43.100 So it's very...
00:03:44.000 I thought this was just kind of like a personal vendetta.
00:03:45.760 And Jack trying to, like, prime the pump.
00:03:48.940 And I don't think...
00:03:49.720 Oh, it is definitely a personal vendetta.
00:03:51.480 That part is also...
00:03:52.780 No, no.
00:03:53.060 I mean, it's...
00:03:53.620 Of course.
00:03:54.280 But, I mean, Jack, we'll let you kind of tell the story.
00:03:56.380 But I think we all should just do kind of the Masters golf clap here.
00:04:00.920 Because...
00:04:01.400 Slow clap.
00:04:02.180 It was...
00:04:03.720 The Josh Shapiro political career was...
00:04:08.720 Damaged significantly.
00:04:10.240 It just wasn't tall enough.
00:04:11.280 Yeah.
00:04:11.960 You have to be this tall.
00:04:12.900 Yeah, he came up...
00:04:13.640 He couldn't overcome it.
00:04:14.780 He couldn't overcome it.
00:04:15.880 That's right.
00:04:16.560 He didn't meet the minimum.
00:04:18.060 Jack, tell us the story of what happened.
00:04:20.460 Because this was a 48-hour tsunami of Josh Shapiro, which was, like, unquestionably the pick,
00:04:28.320 canceling Hampton's fundraisers.
00:04:29.940 All my sources were saying this.
00:04:32.060 Wealthy Jewish donors that I know were talking to wealthy liberal donors.
00:04:35.400 And we're like, it's done.
00:04:37.100 Josh Shapiro is basically, like, telling people you can get good tickets at the Philly announcement.
00:04:42.320 You have the Philly mayor.
00:04:43.280 They made the video.
00:04:43.860 By the way, get the video.
00:04:44.420 Can you get the video?
00:04:45.260 Get the video.
00:04:46.080 Ryan, get the video.
00:04:47.200 So, Jack, tell us a little bit about this.
00:04:48.960 And then I want to play this video.
00:04:50.400 What happened from Thursday night to Tuesday morning?
00:04:55.440 Walk us through the Jack Posobiec masterclass of dark arts.
00:04:59.920 Yeah.
00:05:00.260 So, I mean, basically, look, I'll put it this way.
00:05:03.940 You know, I was well-seeded for this because, you know, Josh Shapiro and I go way back.
00:05:09.720 I first met Josh Shapiro all the way back in 2008 when he was a state rep and he was basically a local surrogate for Obama.
00:05:18.220 And he was appearing at this, I think it was some debate in, like, Montgomery County.
00:05:23.120 And that's where I'm from.
00:05:24.960 That's where he's from, right outside Philadelphia.
00:05:26.320 And, you know, I could tell, I mean, he's very good on the mic.
00:05:30.880 He's very good at debates.
00:05:31.960 You know, he lies with ease, right?
00:05:35.780 You know, slippery like an eel, these types.
00:05:38.060 And people have seen that over the last couple of, I think, days and weeks culminating in this really cringy speech he gave last night after being passed over.
00:05:46.460 Even though he's used to being passed over, lots of things pass over him.
00:05:50.320 Baseball, basketball shots.
00:05:55.400 You know, they're all just passing over Josh Shapiro.
00:05:57.960 So, and it's not hard because I can understand how you can miss him down there.
00:06:01.580 But the, you know, the real thing is, though, I had so many people reaching out to me from the Philadelphia area.
00:06:09.940 So many people bringing up, especially this case of Ellen Greenberg, which, you know, it had been out there before.
00:06:16.520 And I think I had mentioned it on Twitter before a couple of times in 2022 when he was running for governor and I was going up to Pennsylvania campaigning against him and really just calling out who he was and what he was about.
00:06:29.440 But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court then, I guess, for whatever reason, decided to pick up the case and put it under review for the first time since this happened in 2011, by the way, when this poor girl was killed.
00:06:45.420 But that, and he wasn't involved in the case initially, his involvement as attorney general comes up way later in about 2021.
00:06:55.500 So almost a decade later when it gets passed to him.
00:06:58.260 But because, by the way, it's a crazy way that it gets involved because his, he gets the case because the family's lawyer, the lawyer of the family of the girl, this will make sense in a second, goes on to run for DA of Philadelphia.
00:07:17.820 And then his name is Larry Krasner and he's the Soros DA of Philadelphia.
00:07:22.800 So he has a conflict of interest and can't touch the case.
00:07:26.880 So in 2017, he passes it over to the attorney general's office.
00:07:30.980 That's Josh Shapiro.
00:07:32.140 And Josh Shapiro's office pretends to sit on it for all these years and there's no traction.
00:07:35.760 And then suddenly the Pennsylvania Supreme Court says, you know what, there's just too much going on.
00:07:40.740 We can talk a little bit about the case later if you guys want.
00:07:42.640 But, you know, there's, like Blake was saying a second ago, there's just, it's just a very strange case to have been ruled suicide the way it was.
00:07:53.200 Stabbed 20 times, I think it was nine in the front and 11 in the back.
00:07:57.960 So just, just not the type of case that you would see easily ruled a suicide.
00:08:02.560 And yet it hadn't gotten any traction until just last week.
00:08:05.540 So we're putting that information out there.
00:08:07.400 We're walking through time and time again on this thing.
00:08:10.660 And then we're also putting out information about the sexual harassment case that he, he covered up when he was in office.
00:08:17.440 And what's crazy is, so the guy who was, they keep saying it's the aide, it's the aide.
00:08:23.260 No, it was his secretary of legislative affairs.
00:08:27.240 So basically like his senior, almost a cabinet level official, that guy was the former Republican state rep who was one district away from me in Montgomery County.
00:08:39.100 So these are guys who, the same way you guys and Tyler specifically are so tied in in Arizona, that's how tied I am in Pennsylvania.
00:08:45.400 So I know all these guys.
00:08:46.460 I used to see this guy's name is Mike Verbe.
00:08:49.100 And I used to see him just being like blitz drunk, walking around Walmart at like four in the afternoon, former police officer.
00:08:55.680 And he was a Republican who then went and cut a deal with the, with the Democrats and with Josh Shapiro, basically turned over MCRCs, the Montgomery County Republican committee control of it to Josh Shapiro.
00:09:08.400 And this is what a lot of Republicans in Pennsylvania did to help Shapiro become governor.
00:09:12.260 And, you know, people can go back and see what happened in 2022.
00:09:14.540 In terms of that, he goes on and is sexually harassing this, I'm going to be very careful about this because her name is not public and I don't want to make it public.
00:09:23.800 But this, this female staffer, another female staffer in the office for months there in Harrisburg and Shapiro claimed, oh, I didn't know about this.
00:09:32.580 I had no idea that he was being investigated.
00:09:34.760 No idea she had filed a complaint.
00:09:36.160 And I've got more people from Harrisburg texting me saying he was notified almost immediately of this.
00:09:42.580 He was briefed. Of course, he would be briefed, by the way.
00:09:45.120 He's the governor. This is happening right in his office with his senior staff.
00:09:48.480 But basically, he sat on that, too.
00:09:50.800 Because why? Because he's all about creating this perfect picture, the perfect Josh Shapiro.
00:09:57.200 Josh Shapiro, who is the heir apparent in all of politics.
00:10:00.580 Josh Shapiro, who has studied Obama's voice and mannerisms down to the exact letter to be able to directly mimic him in such a way that if you if you close your eyes,
00:10:12.380 you might actually think it's Obama up on stage, even though Obama's voice doesn't crack the way Josh Shapiro's does.
00:10:18.200 And and again, so I'm just getting all of this information from a lifetime in Pennsylvania politics and putting it out and just putting it all out there.
00:10:26.980 And by the way, I've got so, so, so much more.
00:10:29.120 But it's also, by the way, you notice I didn't attack his record.
00:10:33.380 I didn't bring up anything about, you know, what he what he had done as governor or anything like that,
00:10:38.020 because I was deliberately making sure to focus on things that I knew would gain traction with the left, with Team Kamala, with their decision making loop, with the things that their side would care about.
00:10:49.240 And then Charlie, you referenced this, of course.
00:10:50.980 But his his time volunteering with the IDF also, by the way, a brief stint working in the Israeli embassy, something that I didn't even bring up.
00:11:00.180 But it got recently added to his Wikipedia, all of that hitting the Democrat Party as they're looking at going to Chicago.
00:11:06.640 What, in two weeks time here, it just turned into a situation that I think they were terrified of.
00:11:12.800 And they said, look, you know, on paper, this guy seems like he makes sense.
00:11:16.120 He's from a must win state.
00:11:17.220 He's got this ability to appeal to crossover voters the way that Tim Walz claims to, but actually doesn't, by the way, that Shapiro did actually pick up a lot of working class voters in Pennsylvania and in Western Pennsylvania who typically go for Trump.
00:11:31.780 And so they were these kind of like Trump Shapiro voters that were out there because these people vote with their wallets, not ideology.
00:11:37.340 And and look, I just made sure to get into their cycle and get into their headspace to the point where they were so terrified of the skeletons.
00:11:45.160 It was amazing.
00:11:46.200 So I just want to I want to interject.
00:11:48.180 Number one, let's not make let's not fool ourselves.
00:11:50.180 Shapiro would have been the smarter pick here.
00:11:52.500 Every single probability model shows that if Trump doesn't carry Pennsylvania, his odds are sub 50 percent.
00:11:58.020 He has to then basically win Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia, which is what we've been focused on.
00:12:01.940 But that's a tougher path.
00:12:02.900 It just is.
00:12:03.800 And so this opens up Pennsylvania.
00:12:05.600 Number one.
00:12:05.920 Number two, Josh Shapiro is a legit political talent.
00:12:08.720 He just is.
00:12:09.300 He's good.
00:12:09.880 I was watching that speech.
00:12:10.840 He's doing fraud.
00:12:11.700 It means he's good at projecting a good image.
00:12:13.980 Well, I'm just saying he's got a good talent in a social media tick tock era.
00:12:17.020 This guy would have been as hot of a pistol.
00:12:18.880 He actually might have been a little bit better than come a lot better than come.
00:12:24.420 Oh, but I calculably.
00:12:25.860 I think that this I thought this let's play this tape here.
00:12:29.640 This cake was baked, in my opinion.
00:12:31.400 I think it was ready.
00:12:32.680 Everything was prepped.
00:12:34.120 And Jack kind of was the straw that broke the camel's back.
00:12:37.140 Like, no, no, no.
00:12:38.320 All you Arabs in the Democrat Party, you Hamas wing.
00:12:41.480 Are you OK with this?
00:12:42.640 And it kind of created a summer.
00:12:44.900 It was like it was a weekend of jihad.
00:12:47.720 It really was.
00:12:49.160 It was a it was a Jack Jihad.
00:12:51.300 It was a Jack Jihad.
00:12:52.280 Now, this this video, by the way, I saw this video and I said, I remember I was in Dallas
00:12:56.840 last week when I saw it.
00:12:57.920 I turned on my phone.
00:12:58.600 I said, this is going to be tough to beat.
00:13:00.620 This vibe, this energy.
00:13:02.160 It's well produced.
00:13:03.060 It's well edited.
00:13:03.840 Right, Tyler?
00:13:04.640 It was.
00:13:05.200 No, it was.
00:13:06.080 It was the best ad I've ever seen.
00:13:07.720 It was.
00:13:08.120 I was like, oh, goodness.
00:13:09.000 It was really good.
00:13:10.040 This is warfare.
00:13:10.860 And I was like, they're going to go with this guy and it's going to be really hard.
00:13:14.100 And it's the media will just carry this guy and they won't talk.
00:13:18.080 And I said, oh, my gosh.
00:13:19.140 They'll make his name bigger.
00:13:20.400 Right.
00:13:20.820 No, no.
00:13:21.460 Of course they will.
00:13:22.600 And he'll raise so much.
00:13:24.060 I mean, he will raise so much money.
00:13:26.040 This is 97.
00:13:27.360 This was what was supposed to be.
00:13:29.900 But we are unburdened by what has been.
00:13:33.180 Play cut 97.
00:13:36.500 Philadelphia, we got work to do.
00:13:38.460 We're ready to rumble, y'all.
00:13:39.800 I'm Mayor Sherelle Parker, here with leaders from across our region.
00:13:45.960 Kamala Harris is on the road to victory.
00:13:48.340 And the road goes to Pennsylvania.
00:13:50.560 And in Pennsylvania, we're united behind her.
00:13:53.100 The woman that's tough and can lead.
00:13:55.740 Are we ready to fight for it?
00:13:58.520 She is the right person at the right time for this job.
00:14:02.420 It's going to do right by labor.
00:14:03.880 It's going to do right by working people.
00:14:05.720 And I can't think of a better partner than our governor, Josh Shapiro.
00:14:12.780 His policies have not only supported the working class,
00:14:15.940 but have set standards for progressive leadership that benefits all citizens.
00:14:20.180 Build up your building, Tracy.
00:14:21.680 IBEW for Kamala Harris.
00:14:23.400 Montgomery County.
00:14:24.340 Bucks.
00:14:24.720 Bucks County.
00:14:25.780 Delco.
00:14:26.360 Chester.
00:14:26.980 North East South Building.
00:14:28.840 North Valley for Kamala Harris.
00:14:30.720 We're getting behind Kamala Harris.
00:14:32.420 Kamala Harris.
00:14:33.080 Kamala Harris.
00:14:33.760 Kamala Harris for president.
00:14:35.860 And Josh Shapiro.
00:14:36.860 Josh Shapiro.
00:14:37.580 Josh Shapiro for vice president.
00:14:39.940 Now, we need you.
00:14:41.660 Let us and Kamala Harris know you stand with her.
00:14:45.360 Together, we can do this.
00:14:47.200 We are one city.
00:14:48.200 One region.
00:14:48.780 One Kamala Harris.
00:14:50.920 A few things.
00:14:54.980 One, there's very little Kamala Harris in that video.
00:14:59.940 She has one line, and it's not delivered very well.
00:15:02.540 Yes.
00:15:02.820 Like, we are ready to do this.
00:15:05.920 Very strange.
00:15:07.700 And then, also, did they either edit, did they dub an actual speech, or did they fake a whole rally?
00:15:14.600 No, they kind of, they took a previous unrelated labor rally and reconfigured it into a Josh Shapiro VP announcement.
00:15:21.900 Whoa, it was very weird.
00:15:23.900 It was, it was, the way they had set it up was, it was supposed to be a Kamala Harris, you know, just like you say, this labor rally.
00:15:33.700 And then, when Josh Shapiro's name was being floated around, they said, okay, you know, like you said, they turned it into a shadow Josh Shapiro for vice president rally.
00:15:42.760 Then, then they cut the promo to make it look as if he had already been chosen.
00:15:47.060 And there was this, there was this statement put out by the Philadelphia mayor's office, by Cheryl Parker's office saying that, oh, it was, it was posted by accident.
00:15:54.980 No, it wasn't posted by accident.
00:15:56.280 It was posted because people in Shapiro's office and people in the Philadelphia machine were starting, and by the way, that's Bob Brady up there.
00:16:03.740 That's the guy who's run the Philadelphia Democrat machine for an entire generation.
00:16:07.960 That old, that one old white guy that you see standing up in those clips, that's Bob Brady.
00:16:12.200 Like, if you want to know where the ballots in Philly are coming from, just go check Bob's house.
00:16:16.740 That, you know, this was a complete operation because they wanted to make it look like Shapiro was already the shoe in.
00:16:22.400 And keep in mind that when Shapiro was at Cheney University being asked about this, being asked about J.D. Vance, he makes some comments along the lines of like, I'll be happy to say that to J.D.'s face.
00:16:32.700 I'll be happy to say, tell that to J.D.'s face as if he's going to be seeing him very soon.
00:16:37.640 And so this, this was, this was ready to go.
00:16:41.060 And then something happened this weekend, this last weekend, Jack, where they blinked, they second guessed, and they decided to go to Bernie Sanders, the beer belly, stolen valor.
00:16:51.440 You know, I like the smell of burnt tires in the morning, Marxist, driver's license for illegals, tampons for boys.
00:16:59.900 I mean, Jack, explain to me how Josh Shapiro was somehow a more controversial pick than the most unimpressive person in American politics that I've ever seen, Tim Walsh.
00:17:12.340 Well, so the way to look at it this way is it's the most, he's more controversial for their side, right?
00:17:20.180 So he's more controversial because he would have driven a wedge between the Democrats on their base.
00:17:25.120 The same wedge, by the way, you're seeing come out right now with the Cori Bush race last night.
00:17:29.960 The fact that she lost in a very close, I think it was the fifth most spent on primary in like all of American politics or something.
00:17:38.580 So there's this huge intranescent party fight that's going on on the Democrat side right now.
00:17:43.940 That's something that, and I kept hearing all throughout, that Barack Obama says just avoid Shapiro, go pick Tim Walsh.
00:17:50.760 He's good with Midwest labor.
00:17:53.500 He's good with, you know, he's been an Obama guy for years and years.
00:17:57.560 He was back to the Obamacare days and all of this.
00:17:59.920 So just stick with him.
00:18:01.320 He's, it's easy money, won't rock the boat very much.
00:18:03.780 And, you know, this Josh guy, you know, go watch out for him.
00:18:06.460 And then even, even John Fetterman, by the way, this was huge.
00:18:09.740 So the Fetterman-Shapiro shade war has been brewing for a long time.
00:18:15.520 It goes back to years together.
00:18:16.680 Think about it.
00:18:17.400 John Fetterman is the one Pennsylvania high-level Democrat that you don't see in that hype video out of Philadelphia.
00:18:25.480 John Fetterman, obviously the most high-profile Democrat in the entire state of Pennsylvania.
00:18:30.040 But why isn't he there?
00:18:31.300 Because he hates Josh Shapiro.
00:18:32.960 He can't stand him.
00:18:34.280 And he literally wouldn't stand for him.
00:18:36.560 If you go look at CNN's got a video, I think it was MJ Lee that posted it from the speech yesterday.
00:18:42.680 When Shapiro walked out, you go look at everybody, you know, everyone around is standing, but not John Fetterman.
00:18:49.820 John Fetterman is sitting there.
00:18:51.200 He's got his arms crossed.
00:18:52.740 He's got his hoodie on.
00:18:53.380 He kind of looks away as Shapiro takes the stage.
00:18:56.060 You think that's happening by accident?
00:18:57.500 No, it's not happening by accident.
00:18:58.760 That's happening because – and he had warned Kamala Harris over the weekend, put in – basically put in through his aides this message that Josh Shapiro is overly ambitious and Josh Shapiro is not someone who can be trusted.
00:19:13.720 And look at it this way.
00:19:15.360 Kamala Harris just worked with Obama's taku as sitting president to knock him out of the race.
00:19:20.900 Now does she really want to put someone in there that's going to have her looking over her back the entire time?
00:19:26.080 No.
00:19:26.600 You don't want to put – your vice presidential picks are supposed to be someone that doesn't hurt you rather than someone who helps you that much.
00:19:34.700 So that's what – they start looking at all of these things and they say, all right, you know, maybe Tim Walls is better.
00:19:40.320 Maybe we need to go for this.
00:19:41.360 They thought he was the safer pick as opposed to Shapiro being the quote-unquote controversial pick because we were able to make him look so based on what you're saying, these 48 hours of just – 48 hours of work.
00:19:56.140 So, Blake, I want – objectively, did we dodge two bullets in Pennsylvania, one in Butler, the second with Josh Shapiro?
00:20:07.320 I want you to look – don't give me the Blake objective take.
00:20:11.780 What I'll say is before we got the announcement Sunday night, we were like, okay, let's make tweets to be ready for this so we can come out of the gate charging.
00:20:19.800 And so just, you know, full disclosure, we wrote tweets for Walls and we wrote tweets for Shapiro.
00:20:25.520 And I was trying to work up the ones for Shapiro and what struck me was, one, it's harder to write these than it is for Walls.
00:20:33.720 With Walls, it's like, okay, we've got – we have the riots to work with.
00:20:37.520 We have the stolen valor thing to work with.
00:20:39.480 I didn't even know about the DUI yet at the time.
00:20:41.880 We've got – it just felt like we had tons of stuff to work with for Walls.
00:20:45.720 And with Shapiro, okay, we had – we had the stuff we've mentioned, but it was very much where essentially if we get this guy, we're just going to have to hope the left freaks out about him.
00:20:57.000 And maybe they will, but the left is pretty good at coming together and getting over it.
00:21:01.940 And being totalitarian.
00:21:02.600 Yeah, exactly, when they need it to happen.
00:21:05.360 And I don't like to go into a race where, like, we basically don't have agency anymore.
00:21:10.260 We just have to hope the left screws it up.
00:21:11.760 I totally agree.
00:21:12.720 And so with Walls, I was like, okay, all these things are things that we can exploit to hurt him to win over middle-of-the-road voters.
00:21:20.820 With Shapiro, we're just going to have to hope the left gets mad, votes for someone else, doesn't turn out, that they start a civil war, and we don't have much ability to affect it.
00:21:30.080 Because even if we want to see it happen, we're not going to go out there and, like, say, like, oh, Shapiro sucks because he, like, supports Israel more than Hamas because we support Israel more than Hamas.
00:21:41.780 And so I had gone back and forth, like, oh, do we want to get Shapiro out?
00:21:46.340 Like, oh, this could be good stuff to hit him on.
00:21:48.080 But I found myself Sunday night thinking, man, I hope they go with Walls because it's so much easier to attack this guy.
00:21:56.360 Well, I totally agree.
00:21:57.800 And we talked about it here.
00:21:58.680 Remember we talked about the idea?
00:22:01.040 And it was kind of interesting because I kind of had that thought when we got sent some insider information on Walls because some of the Minnesotans had sent it and said, hey, they hate him.
00:22:10.500 And there was, like, a real opportunity to knock him out last time he ran for governor.
00:22:14.660 And the candidate just wasn't strong enough, wasn't funded well enough.
00:22:18.340 Good dude, but just didn't have enough oomph to get over the top.
00:22:21.900 But when they said, no, this is a real possibility, everybody's talking about on the ground here, it kind of made a lot of sense because it was almost too much for the left to not do because they love that style of, like, radical, which is, like, that very Liz type, you know, upper, middle class, college educated.
00:22:45.460 That's the whole attack vector that the left is taking is just try to take as many of those votes off the table in suburbia way.
00:22:53.940 And that's kind of the M.O. of Minnesota.
00:22:57.620 It does make a ton of sense when you look at that if they're going to go all in on Pennsylvania and then try to utilize someone like him to pick off votes in Wisconsin.
00:23:08.440 And that's their strategy at this point.
00:23:09.720 Yeah, it's it's win by more, lose by less.
00:23:12.220 So run up the score in the in the black urban areas and then lose by less in rural areas.
00:23:16.100 But there's no evidence that Tim Wells actually loses by less in MAGA areas.
00:23:20.340 In fact, the numbers aren't there.
00:23:21.740 It's a mythology that he's kind of this like blue state.
00:23:25.320 But they think but they think that will be you know who thinks that people that cast for Yellowstone.
00:23:29.840 Yeah.
00:23:30.640 Yeah.
00:23:30.860 Right, Jack.
00:23:31.400 Yeah.
00:23:31.680 People think that because he looks a certain way.
00:23:34.300 This this has been something that and I know for a fact that we have talked about this on thought, Brian.
00:23:40.480 Yes, many times.
00:23:41.760 Yellowstoning and Hick Libs and all of this.
00:23:44.820 He's a perfect example.
00:23:46.200 It is this operation that is being run to take like conservative aesthetics and run liberal ideals through them.
00:23:56.820 By the way, Charlie, you were, you know, since you were putting me over so much earlier, Charlie was one of the first people to to call this out.
00:24:05.480 When the who is the who is the guy?
00:24:07.420 Richman of Richmond.
00:24:09.000 Oh, yeah.
00:24:09.700 Oliver Anthony.
00:24:10.520 Oliver Anthony.
00:24:11.200 I was very early.
00:24:12.160 I know.
00:24:12.720 Charlie was like, no, this guy's this guy's an op.
00:24:15.020 This guy's a Hick Lib.
00:24:16.440 And some of us were like, but the song is good.
00:24:18.780 You know, some of us being me, of course, we're like, no, we like the song.
00:24:22.140 But Charlie was like, no.
00:24:23.280 But also, Charlie had a little bit of an ace in the up his sleeve there, just like I did in Pennsylvania, because Charlie doesn't like country music at all.
00:24:29.260 I inherently thought it was noise, not music.
00:24:31.640 So I was like, I can't stand this guy.
00:24:33.460 Yeah.
00:24:33.680 But that's a perfect example of it.
00:24:35.580 This idea that you're going to take someone who's got the aesthetics of, you know, what you would you would you would traditionally think of as like the George W. Bush type, like, you know, country Midwestern, wears a cowboy hat, listens to country music, has got a pair of cowboy boots, you know, drinks beer, that type of thing.
00:24:56.100 And probably owns a couple of guns, definitely owns a shotgun.
00:25:00.940 And yet all of a sudden is like was like, yeah, man.
00:25:04.280 And and that's why we need tampons for all the boys on this ranch.
00:25:09.200 And that's like and so this is where the Yellowstone meme came from, which which, by the way, I also credit for driving Kevin Costner totally out of the show because we memed him so hard that he refused to even come back for Yellowstone after we made the meme.
00:25:22.280 And that, you know, it's it's just been this thing that's going on.
00:25:27.400 We talked about it a number of times.
00:25:28.840 And Tim Walls is like the the political weaponization of the Hicklib trend that's been going on for so long.
00:25:36.500 But the problem is that the people of Minnesota can see through it.
00:25:40.120 And if you look at his voting patterns and some people were posting, I think Tom Bevins at RCP was posting the last the county by county election from his last gubernatorial, which I guess was 2022.
00:25:50.980 And it's like, no, he won with metro city areas and like the metro bourbonites and the rural areas all voted Republican.
00:25:59.280 So it's just not expressed in the data.
00:26:01.720 It's just basically we have a post up at humanevents.com, a new op ed from the editorial board saying, no, he's not a folksy Midwestern dad.
00:26:11.160 He's what a woke San Francisco liberal thinks a folksy Midwestern dad looks and talks like just because he sounds like he's from Fargo.
00:26:20.660 Yeah.
00:26:21.340 Blake.
00:26:22.060 Well, I just I think I want to quote it because it's a really good part of the book, Right Wing Revolution.
00:26:26.800 One of the early chapters, it's basically like, you know, the book is saying how to not fall for what the left does.
00:26:34.540 And one of the analogies you use is you compare it all to drag shows.
00:26:37.820 Like what is what is a drag show?
00:26:39.560 It's a man dressing up as a woman, pretending to be a woman.
00:26:42.740 Be like, I'm a woman.
00:26:44.140 Look at me.
00:26:44.680 And when you think about it, it's what the left does with so many people.
00:26:49.640 And so, you know, they'll try it out.
00:26:51.120 This is this is a general with the U.S. military.
00:26:53.380 And he's telling you that, you know, we need to care about white rage and we need to do all these things.
00:26:57.860 And you you like the military, right?
00:26:59.860 You you you like all those rah rah patriot stuff or they'll bring out, you know, a pro athlete.
00:27:04.540 This guy's in the NFL.
00:27:06.320 He he throws the football.
00:27:07.740 You like it's similar to skin suiting.
00:27:09.280 Yeah, skin suiting.
00:27:10.380 And so they're doing the same thing with it.
00:27:12.300 This is what Governor Waltz is.
00:27:13.820 They'll be like, Governor, what's you think you're going to attack this guy?
00:27:16.740 Look at him.
00:27:17.280 He's wearing orange.
00:27:18.320 He shot a bird with a shotgun.
00:27:20.140 You you like hunting.
00:27:21.480 He's got a camo hat.
00:27:22.900 Yeah, he's wearing camouflage.
00:27:26.360 That means you're OK with all of those other things he does.
00:27:28.920 He wants to cut the little kids peepees off.
00:27:30.860 Like what?
00:27:32.600 No.
00:27:33.560 And what's sad is for a long time, this did work.
00:27:37.520 And for for decades, really, it would work.
00:27:40.140 They honed this whole art of get this.
00:27:42.660 Yeah, this like Hick Lib out of Minnesota where you can use this coded thing of like, oh, he he owns guns and he wears camo and he knows like what a shotgun formation is.
00:27:53.260 And so he can be this insane, you know, Marxist who believes all the latest gender ideology.
00:28:00.440 But I think people are starting to figure this out now.
00:28:03.980 And I'm hoping we can prove they figured it out with how they'll react to tampon Tim.
00:28:10.160 Well, yeah.
00:28:10.820 And there's there's also, you know, I was going to say, so a lot of people were going after him, you know, early on for and tampon Tim's hilarious, by the way.
00:28:17.720 I think it's so funny.
00:28:18.320 Like, and it was so good.
00:28:20.760 And Hillary Clinton even shared the tampon Tim meme.
00:28:23.240 It's like these people, they're just so dumb.
00:28:25.980 They're used to, you know, having the levers of power, but they're not actually smart.
00:28:30.500 So, you know, you can trick them into sharing your own memes.
00:28:33.540 Like, I remember she used to she was reading Breitbart articles at one point in this in this insane speech that she gave in 2016.
00:28:42.820 And she she's like sharing our memes.
00:28:45.560 Like, why would you be so dumb as to amplify opposition propaganda against your own candidate?
00:28:50.380 But OK, so, you know, thanks, Hillary Clinton.
00:28:54.660 You know, the really big one, though, I think for Tim Walls isn't necessarily his wokeness.
00:28:59.020 It's it's the and the one that's getting the most traction, even to the point where CNN had to address it and is trying to dispel it so much is, I think, within probably within 30 minutes of his and of the announcement that he was that he was definitely going to be the pick that.
00:29:15.540 And by the way, you know, I could even go further.
00:29:18.580 People saying like, oh, Josh Shapiro didn't really want it.
00:29:21.200 And he was telling people you don't want that.
00:29:22.520 That's a bunch of sitting there all night.
00:29:24.620 He was in the drive. He was in the driveway playing basketball with his son, you know, playing up for the cameras, sitting by the phone, sitting by the phone.
00:29:32.480 And it never rang. It never rang once.
00:29:35.340 But probably within 30 minutes of the announcement, I posted a tweet from this letter I found from the a couple of command sergeant majors from Tim Waltz's National Guard unit in Minnesota,
00:29:48.060 saying that this guy is stolen valor because he shirked the deployment.
00:29:53.240 He deserted before deployment and has been running around embellishing his record, claiming that he served in combat, claiming that he fought in the war on terror, claiming that he carried weapons of war.
00:30:05.780 And it's just a lot. So not only is it a lie that he didn't serve.
00:30:08.640 Right. So that's number one. Excuse me. Serve in combat.
00:30:10.780 He did serve. He certainly served.
00:30:11.740 And it but it's definitely a lie that he served in combat.
00:30:14.960 But even more to the point, it's it's 10 times more egregious because he deserted his unit just as they were on the eve of deploying and deployment, by the way,
00:30:27.300 where they lost a 19 year old soldier to an IED.
00:30:30.440 And this guy was the senior NCO. So he would have been the command sergeant major.
00:30:34.460 He then didn't even complete his his E-9 school.
00:30:38.680 So his command sergeant major school, which means that he didn't even retire with his final rank.
00:30:43.400 So he's been running around using this rank claiming even like Alyssa Farah is saying, oh, he was he's the highest ranking enlisted man to ever serve in Congress.
00:30:51.100 But it's not actually true because he didn't retire with that rank.
00:30:54.680 It's it's kind of complicated. But the way to explain it is that sometimes in the military or a lot of times in the military in the Navy, we call it frocking.
00:31:02.200 It's you you get selected for your next rank.
00:31:05.900 And so you kind of get to you kind of get to pin it on, but you don't on your uniform.
00:31:10.480 But you don't necessarily get to actually serve in that rank until you complete whatever the requisite.
00:31:18.100 Sometimes there's coursework. Sometimes there's other things you have to do to sign offs, et cetera, et cetera,
00:31:23.340 before you get to actually fully attain that rank.
00:31:26.300 And because he didn't do that, he didn't follow the rules.
00:31:28.980 He left before his unit deployed to Iraq where a soldier died.
00:31:33.680 He was retired at the lower rank of E-8, which, you know, is still a great rank and all, but it's not the one that he was claiming.
00:31:42.100 And so he lied. And I found this letter, a paid letter to like the Central Western Tribune back in 2018 of two people just saying of two retired command sergeant majors saying,
00:31:52.160 hey, this guy's been lying about his record. And and now J.D. Vance is getting in on it.
00:31:56.960 And I think that's going to become a huge problem for them because it directly goes to what Blake has been talking about.
00:32:02.620 It directly attacks him on those same grounds of like, I'm I'm one of a man of the people.
00:32:08.200 I'm a regular Midwestern guy when you're not.
00:32:10.560 So let's let's now examine this from a political standpoint.
00:32:13.640 Tyler, why did they pass over the obviously more impressive astronaut who is the senator from Arizona, by all objective measurements, is more popular, more well known than Tim Walls, would have made a much better story.
00:32:29.100 He could have been like my wife got shot, gun violence, all that nonsense that they push.
00:32:33.780 Why did they go with Tim Walls? By the way, you could say we want Mark Kelly.
00:32:38.080 Mark Kelly is perched by the CCP, has a very questionable personal life, but he doesn't have this crazy stuff like tampons and boys bathrooms and late term abortion.
00:32:48.100 I mean, it would it would have been a much narrower attack vector if they would have went Harris Kelly.
00:32:53.340 And by the way, Harris Kelly sounds better than Harris Walls.
00:32:56.020 Yeah. Kamala Kelly sounds like, you know, Kamala. Right. Why did they pass over the Arizona astronaut?
00:33:02.220 There's a couple there's like four different reasons. I don't know if we'll get to all of them right now.
00:33:05.580 But the I mean, you're making a really good point that the scary part about Mark Kelly is that he basically has no record at all.
00:33:14.360 So he's never served in any kind of capacity before getting elected to the Senate.
00:33:18.900 He's done basically nothing in the Senate. In fact, the guy hides from everybody.
00:33:22.340 He's rarely here. He lives in Houston.
00:33:24.040 Houston. So he's not he's not even from here. Right.
00:33:26.420 The only reason why he claims Arizona is because his wife, too.
00:33:30.120 I think he really didn't live here for a couple of years when he was training for the Air Force in Tucson or something point.
00:33:35.260 But yeah, I mean, but his wife's from Tucson. That's where she got shot.
00:33:38.740 You know, that was a horrible incident that that occurred.
00:33:41.700 But when he married, you know, after they got married, they would go back and forth.
00:33:45.160 But he spent most of his time in Houston. That's where his kids were.
00:33:47.260 That's where all everything else. Right. So we launch rockets. We've known that. Right.
00:33:50.380 That's that's where he's from. So he's not he's not an Arizona.
00:33:53.240 By any by any qualification. He's hardly spent any time here.
00:33:56.380 He's probably spent more time. You know, I would guess in almost every other story.
00:34:01.960 Yeah, in orbit for sure. He spent more time in orbit than he has in Arizona.
00:34:06.440 But I mean, that's kind of impressive, though. I mean, no, but that's why he's perfect.
00:34:10.080 His biography is that's why he's perfect. Extra terrestrial.
00:34:12.860 That's why he's perfect is because he's like he's like anything you want to make him into.
00:34:17.660 And that's what they love. The Democrat Party loves. Tim Waltz is not.
00:34:21.340 So there's a couple of reasons why I'll get into one of them that I think is the most important.
00:34:25.960 I think the most important issue for Mark Kelly that you just cannot ignore is I think they are so legitimately concerned about the about Arizona in the long term.
00:34:36.780 that any kind of qualification of, you know, removing somebody that is the future for them.
00:34:44.500 Like, I think they're afraid we're getting wise to the state.
00:34:46.900 Well, number one, they don't want to pull out a talent because they have no one to legitimately replace him with.
00:34:52.860 So if they win. Right. And this is how they think.
00:34:55.980 I don't think they're going to win. But if they won, they think, well, then you're we're totally screwed now because we have no one to replace Mark Kelly with.
00:35:02.740 And a Doug Ducey could run in a swing in a swing state, you know, type atmosphere.
00:35:09.120 Number two, and I think can they do that? Well, can they just do that at convention?
00:35:14.900 Well, hold on. I'm going to get to that in a second, Jack, because I think. Yes. But one second.
00:35:18.060 I don't think we're out of the woods yet. Well, we're not. Yeah, we're not.
00:35:21.800 Because this this stolen valor thing's heating up. Yeah.
00:35:24.980 Maybe we should just chill a little bit. Well, no, I mean, I think we should be open about it.
00:35:28.160 But just be very clear that a replacement of walls would be a like 40.
00:35:33.660 But what is what is it? Nobody cares.
00:35:35.440 You would cover it up and they'd be like, oh, sorry, he's a buffoon.
00:35:38.300 We messed up. Now here's Mark Kelly. America is so.
00:35:40.960 But let me be very clear. You pick Mark Kelly.
00:35:43.040 He has suspicious CCP balloon ties. Yeah.
00:35:45.500 And he also is not a loyally married, allegedly to there's a let's just say there's a lot of skeletons in the closet.
00:35:52.820 Yeah. Right. And so a lot of skeletons in the what do you call the the storage bane within a within a rocket ship?
00:36:00.960 There's a lot of skeletons in there. So that's the second point.
00:36:03.800 The third point is, is that legitimately all the numbers and all the trends and everything looking in Arizona right now do not look good for the Democrats.
00:36:09.700 So I'll just point out one thing. Michigan versus Arizona in the primary.
00:36:14.400 Michigan early balloting. The Democrats were up basically 20 percent on the Republicans here in the primary.
00:36:20.680 The Republican Party is basically up 20 percent.
00:36:24.500 And that's with a bunch of our boomers in Midwestern states.
00:36:28.220 Not here. The state loses like 15 percent of its population. 20 percent, right?
00:36:31.720 Yeah, at least. We become 20 percent less populated in three months of the year.
00:36:35.560 And that's that's just from makes sense. Having having lived here two summers now, for sure.
00:36:40.140 I mean, they're all going. Yeah. And they go back to Iowa or they go back to Chicago or they go back to Minneapolis and younger families leave the state for going out of town.
00:36:49.820 And so you're out of town for three to four weeks in the summertime, different places.
00:36:53.340 So there's a lot of people missing there. There's a lot of uncertainty for the Democrats.
00:36:57.640 They're looking at the operation of things that we're doing. Others are coming in and going, wait a minute.
00:37:02.500 You know, the Republicans in Arizona have kind of figured some stuff out.
00:37:05.500 You know, there's less of the of it being figured out into other places and they are.
00:37:11.840 But they have dumped more money into Pennsylvania and Wisconsin than almost anywhere.
00:37:16.540 They have to win Michigan. So they have a grassroots army that's there in Michigan.
00:37:20.400 So this is a full blue wall strategy.
00:37:23.140 They have to defend the Rust Belt. And that's what they're doing.
00:37:26.700 So let's just play this out, though.
00:37:30.080 Trending on Twitter over three hundred six thousand.
00:37:32.200 I'm telling this stolen valor thing is heating up and it's going to cause I don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon because it's so bad.
00:37:39.560 And would you agree?
00:37:40.800 What's so bad about it is it's not even just a case.
00:37:43.600 We've had a lot of cases of people who play up their military service.
00:37:47.400 Like, what was it? Blumenthal?
00:37:49.260 Danang Dick Blumenthal.
00:37:50.620 Danang Dick Blumenthal.
00:37:51.480 There's a lot of guys where it's like they served, but they implied they were like in a war zone when they weren't.
00:37:57.140 No, he was really.
00:37:58.140 His was pretty bad.
00:37:59.000 He was worse than John Kerry.
00:38:00.580 Yeah.
00:38:00.880 Danang Dick literally was like, I went to Vietnam.
00:38:02.780 I don't think he did at all.
00:38:04.080 Yeah.
00:38:04.220 Yeah.
00:38:04.480 Yeah.
00:38:04.660 Yeah.
00:38:05.140 It was during the Vietnam era.
00:38:07.120 It was the worst example of stolen valor.
00:38:09.920 What I'd say makes this actually very bad is it's not merely a case of him playing up.
00:38:14.040 We have that, which does make this worse.
00:38:15.900 This one jeopardized people's lives.
00:38:17.280 He implied he implied that he was like serving in a more like he was in a war zone when he wasn't.
00:38:21.960 That's bad.
00:38:22.540 But I think I could get through that.
00:38:23.980 What is bad is a completely objective narration of what he did do makes him look like he's a very bad character.
00:38:32.700 Like, here's a summary a friend of mine wrote up for me where he's like,
00:38:37.720 Waltz's fellow like the people who've spoken up from his old unit have been very clear and consistent about what happened.
00:38:43.020 First, their brigade is made aware of a coming Iraq deployment sometime early in 2005.
00:38:48.780 They learn of this.
00:38:49.920 The sergeant's major of all the subordinate battalions hold a meeting at brigade to discuss at which Walls affirms his commitment to go.
00:38:58.980 Then in May, Walls drops retirement papers without informing the brigade sergeant major or any of his peers.
00:39:05.600 By retiring, he voids a promotion that he's received and reverts to master sergeant, which incidentally greatly lowers his pension pay.
00:39:13.720 And he doesn't even show up to sign the relevant like paperwork for it.
00:39:17.140 He just bolts and right before his unit goes to Iraq.
00:39:21.540 And you know what?
00:39:23.420 You could even be frank.
00:39:24.940 I wouldn't have wanted to go to Iraq.
00:39:26.620 Probably.
00:39:27.140 It doesn't seem like it was a very fun time, but he was in a position of leadership over other people.
00:39:33.400 And he cut and ran, and then he played up his veteran status after doing so.
00:39:38.980 And then he lied about that situation.
00:39:39.540 And then lied about what he did egregiously.
00:39:42.460 And CNN is admitting this is the case.
00:39:44.980 I think you're going to get more veterans.
00:39:47.120 I bet they'll find more people.
00:39:48.120 This is a big unit.
00:39:49.220 They'll get more people who will come out, and they will be very aggrieved by this.
00:39:52.460 He is not the Democrat vice presidential nominee yet.
00:39:54.960 I want to be very clear.
00:39:56.100 Kamala Harris went through a virtual roll call.
00:39:58.340 Tim Walls did not.
00:39:59.520 This is a suggestion.
00:40:01.060 There's just, all that is, is a bunch of rally signs with his name on it.
00:40:04.260 This could be switched out in a moment.
00:40:06.620 Do not, I'm not saying it's probable.
00:40:08.840 I'm not even saying it is likely.
00:40:10.580 Is it good if it happens?
00:40:12.300 No.
00:40:12.580 Do we want him to stay in?
00:40:13.920 We kind of want him to stay in because the media is a freaking Soviet brainwashing operation right now.
00:40:19.280 Where it's like, Trump gets shot, and three days later they're saying Trump's a coward.
00:40:23.100 Like, nothing has staying power.
00:40:24.300 Donald Trump has faced more enemy fire than Walls ever did.
00:40:26.860 Of course.
00:40:27.160 That's exactly right.
00:40:29.880 And Trump has been shot.
00:40:32.420 Trump's been shot.
00:40:32.980 Tim Walls never took a bullet for this country.
00:40:34.700 No, he did.
00:40:35.240 Donald Trump.
00:40:35.900 Not even that.
00:40:36.580 Tim Walls has never been in a firefight.
00:40:38.380 Donald Trump has.
00:40:39.560 And so I am of the opinion that a switch is bad because this was, I think they go Kelly
00:40:44.880 after this because Shapiro is dead because he's a Jew and they hate Jews.
00:40:50.700 And so.
00:40:51.660 Yeah, but can I point something out?
00:40:53.500 Part of the reason why Kelly and Shapiro may not be here, and I know the room.
00:40:58.440 Or maybe Bashir is the backup.
00:41:00.020 I don't know.
00:41:00.320 Maybe Bashir.
00:41:00.780 Yeah, but I think the general consensus around the room is that Shapiro wanted it really
00:41:05.680 bad and he got not done.
00:41:07.020 It's too ambitious.
00:41:08.020 But Kelly, I think, actually stepped away from it and was like, I actually think that.
00:41:11.880 I think he's afraid of his skeletons.
00:41:13.560 Well, that and also, like, why would you want to go down with Kamala?
00:41:17.880 But there's no.
00:41:18.840 Nah, I don't know.
00:41:20.220 Your career's over.
00:41:22.740 But there's a 50-50 shot she wins.
00:41:24.780 Let's just be honest.
00:41:25.280 In a swing state, though, if you lose and you're with her, tied to her, you're going
00:41:29.960 to be tied to her for the rest of your life.
00:41:31.140 I know, but you have a coin.
00:41:31.760 It's like the Sarah Palin.
00:41:32.840 Or the Tim Kaine phenomenon.
00:41:34.520 Yeah.
00:41:34.740 And no one ever talks about Tim Kaine.
00:41:35.540 No one wants to talk to you ever again.
00:41:37.060 So I don't want, I think it's very unlikely they pulled Tim Walls.
00:41:40.540 However, they're in desperation mode where they're like, hey, we just pulled Biden.
00:41:43.840 Why don't we pull this buffoon?
00:41:45.220 Like, there's no name ID.
00:41:46.520 I'm not even saying it's likely, Blake.
00:41:47.820 But if we say that it's 0%, I think that's a huge mistake.
00:41:51.200 This has not been a good rollout for him.
00:41:52.880 I guess what I'm saying is.
00:41:53.880 By the way, we have all these up here.
00:41:55.180 Every, they say, they're like, you know, military service of Walls put in question.
00:41:59.980 Like, they're, this is a thing.
00:42:02.160 Like, they're, this is, we're 24 hours into his announcement, Blake.
00:42:05.860 And this is becoming a narrative.
00:42:08.160 I like how it's the things you're flagging.
00:42:09.700 And then also NBC has a random thing about the pyramids.
00:42:13.140 No, no.
00:42:13.800 The amount of stupid news that NBC has on every day is, it really tells you everything you
00:42:19.340 need to know.
00:42:20.160 I'm going to have to look that one up.
00:42:21.120 They just ran a whole hit pyramid guy.
00:42:22.580 On MSNBC.
00:42:23.300 That's how bad it is.
00:42:24.020 No, they think that the pyramids were like built underwater.
00:42:26.460 It's like this whole thing that they used water to build.
00:42:28.560 You didn't know.
00:42:28.840 You didn't see this?
00:42:29.580 Whoa.
00:42:30.280 Like a hydraulic press?
00:42:30.980 Yeah, exactly.
00:42:31.720 Yeah.
00:42:31.960 I read about this yesterday.
00:42:33.140 They just discovered something recently.
00:42:35.100 I did hear about this.
00:42:35.960 That'd be wild if it was the case.
00:42:38.180 That's a bit off topic.
00:42:39.200 But the pyramids are cool, man.
00:42:40.140 This is thought crime.
00:42:40.640 They're really weird.
00:42:40.740 I will just say.
00:42:41.700 This is thought crime.
00:42:42.580 Anyone who hasn't been.
00:42:43.820 Like, the pyramids are easily the most impressive thing I've ever seen.
00:42:46.380 You've been to Cairo?
00:42:46.880 I've heard, though, is Cairo?
00:42:49.160 Cairo is not so nice, though, is it?
00:42:50.900 No, it's a slum.
00:42:52.020 Egypt is like the poorest country.
00:42:54.600 Egypt is crappy.
00:42:55.400 Egyptians are all trying to scam you.
00:42:57.240 I'm sure.
00:42:58.400 Bye-bye, Tyler.
00:42:59.660 We appreciate you.
00:43:00.380 He has to go chase ballots.
00:43:01.140 But if you fly to Cairo instead, we'll understand.
00:43:05.140 That's where Andrew is.
00:43:05.980 Andrew's in Giza.
00:43:06.800 I've been to Morocco, and it was terrible.
00:43:08.600 Morocco was so bad.
00:43:11.300 But, I mean, here's what you understand.
00:43:12.500 Everywhere that's not America is, like, not great.
00:43:15.640 I mean, there's, like, a couple other countries that, I mean, Switzerland's really rich and nice.
00:43:19.200 Dubai.
00:43:19.600 The sad thing is, there's a few places that are just nicer than America now.
00:43:22.240 Singapore.
00:43:22.680 No, no.
00:43:22.920 I'm saying, though, but we're so used to.
00:43:25.120 Cairo's a slum.
00:43:25.980 Am I wrong to say that?
00:43:26.740 Cairo is a rough town.
00:43:29.780 It is, I'll say, when I'm in Egypt, I had the feeling, like, this country will eventually have a revolution, and, like, half the country will die.
00:43:38.540 Don't they have a revolution, like, every five years there?
00:43:41.360 Yeah, they had one in 2011, which made the tourism a lot cheaper, I will say.
00:43:45.260 Literally.
00:43:46.000 Yes, because the Muslim Brotherhood was in charge.
00:43:47.820 Yeah, well, so their economy is very weak, other than, like, tourism.
00:43:54.320 But they also, like, scare away all the tourists, because they're always trying to scam you.
00:44:00.360 Like, there are.
00:44:01.040 No, it's bad.
00:44:01.600 It's endless.
00:44:02.140 I don't want to get, like, too down this thing.
00:44:03.360 Yeah, let's go back.
00:44:04.160 I will say, the pyramids are amazing.
00:44:05.700 Yes.
00:44:05.920 Yes.
00:44:06.880 But, back on topic, with Walls, if he, what I'm wondering is, do we wish we can hit him so bad they force him to drop out, because then it'll be, oh, Kamala's campaign got really damaged.
00:44:20.000 It's a 48-hour news cycle, Blake.
00:44:22.220 Yeah.
00:44:23.000 I'm being honest.
00:44:23.520 These are new rules.
00:44:24.460 Nothing hits anymore.
00:44:25.540 Yeah.
00:44:26.220 Because the media is so in the bag.
00:44:27.500 That's my opinion.
00:44:28.000 They would just push him out.
00:44:28.680 And they'd probably come up with an excuse.
00:44:30.020 Walls has a medical thing.
00:44:31.220 He had to step aside.
00:44:31.960 They'll come up with some explanation like that.
00:44:34.140 And then, yeah, slot the new guy in.
00:44:36.380 And the question is, do they go Bashir?
00:44:38.760 Do they go Mark Kelly?
00:44:39.600 But, Jack, at the current trajectory right now of how Walls is getting beat up, I say that it would be silly to laugh at the possibility that Walls cannot get picked.
00:44:53.620 Is that fair to say?
00:44:54.580 So, one of my, it is, Ben, one of the things that I noticed was that, so, you know, so, Charlie, you know, vote vets, right?
00:44:59.800 You know how serious that operation is.
00:45:01.140 It's so artificial, though, man.
00:45:02.460 It's like, I hope we win in Montana for no other reason than that, honestly.
00:45:07.180 So, these guys, I mean, very well-funded.
00:45:10.840 And they put up a meme today that was one of the worst leftist memes that I've ever seen.
00:45:16.140 And I should have grabbed it before we went in.
00:45:19.100 But it was something along the lines of, like, claim, tomb walls didn't have the right rank that he claimed and also shirked a deployment to Iraq.
00:45:29.980 And then the truth, and it was just like, in 2005, it's like, just complete, like, complete gobbledygook leftist meme, like, a paragraph trying to explain its way out of the fact that, you know, he just lied.
00:45:45.560 He just straight up lied.
00:45:47.240 Yeah, I'm texting with some New York Times reporters, and they're like, yeah, we're all talking on our Slack feeds.
00:45:51.500 This is bad when it comes to Walls.
00:45:53.380 Really?
00:45:53.940 Yeah.
00:45:54.480 Like, there's kind of like a –
00:45:56.640 On their Slack feeds?
00:45:57.620 Yeah.
00:45:58.160 Did he say anything more?
00:45:59.100 Is that just a quote?
00:45:59.820 That's kind of it.
00:46:00.520 That's like –
00:46:00.700 Oh, he also –
00:46:01.600 Meaning, like, they're kind of looking at this, and they're, like, not commenting yet, and they're like, yeah.
00:46:05.740 I mean, this video I just sent, by the way, is, like, him being, like, saying he was a veteran of the Afghanistan war.
00:46:10.800 Whoa.
00:46:11.260 So, here's what he would do.
00:46:12.620 It's a video that's new.
00:46:13.340 I can explain this one.
00:46:14.580 This is a real one, though, right, Jack?
00:46:16.700 No, it's real.
00:46:17.400 But what he's doing is this.
00:46:18.660 So, he's claiming that he served in – he was playing fast and loose with this.
00:46:23.320 So, like, for example, when – and, like, people know that, like, I don't try to do the whole professional veteran thing and be like, oh, by the way, you know, I served all the time.
00:46:31.120 Like, a lot of people do that.
00:46:32.160 I've just – you know, I'll mention it here and there, but that's kind of it.
00:46:35.460 But I will say that I served at Guantanamo.
00:46:37.260 And I'm like, I served at Guantanamo.
00:46:38.560 That's what I did.
00:46:39.200 I served at Guantanamo.
00:46:39.940 That was probably the most whatever.
00:46:41.320 Other deployments, sure, different parts of the world, but served at Guantanamo.
00:46:44.200 That's, like, the one that everybody talks about.
00:46:46.060 So, deployment, not in terms of what I did.
00:46:49.060 But that deployment was under what's called Operation Enduring Freedom.
00:46:54.700 And so, Operation Enduring Freedom had many different elements to it.
00:46:57.560 It had elements at Guantanamo.
00:46:58.920 That was part – so, JTF Gitmo was part of Operation Enduring Freedom under DIA.
00:47:03.780 Where I served, there were elements in Europe that were in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
00:47:09.100 There were elements in the Philippines that were considered Operation Enduring Freedom because they were counterterror.
00:47:13.300 But from the general public, when you say that phrase, Operation Enduring Freedom, or I served in the war on terror in Operation Enduring Freedom, they think you're talking about Afghanistan because that's where the bulk of Operation Enduring Freedom was.
00:47:27.120 And basically, when he was saying that, oh, I was, you know, I was serving in – serving in Operation Enduring Freedom, that he was actually in Italy in, like, a support – you know, in, like, a support role, you know, doing some other kind of – some other kind of op, which was totally on base.
00:47:46.320 And if last time I checked, Italy – now, of course, you can make this joke back then, but in 2009, there were not a lot of Afghans in Italy.
00:47:54.360 Now, Blake would remind us there probably are a few more now.
00:47:57.640 But back at the time, no, that was not the case.
00:48:00.480 You were not in danger if you were in Italy.
00:48:02.640 So, he ran around claiming that he was in Operation Enduring Freedom and played fast and loose with the facts because that same operational name was used to cover a lot of different missions.
00:48:12.620 It was not in Afghanistan, and he was more than happy to let people think that he was in Afghanistan.
00:48:19.260 So, yeah, I was just texting with some other people there.
00:48:21.720 It's not looking good for Walls.
00:48:23.660 And so let me ask –
00:48:24.160 And this is just the cherry on top.
00:48:26.380 So is this – are we a little worried that there's more attention on Walls than Harris?
00:48:32.200 Or I think this is just generally good because they're one and the same?
00:48:34.700 I think it's good because Walls is beneath Harris.
00:48:38.080 And he's co-branded.
00:48:39.200 Yeah, they're co-branded.
00:48:40.240 But if you're talking about the Veep in a negative way, you're talking about their ticket in a negative way.
00:48:46.260 I generally think people focus on the potential upsides of VPs, but it's really a lot more downside overall.
00:48:52.640 Like, a VP can hurt your campaign more than they can help it, I think.
00:48:57.080 And so if he, like, blows up and it forces them to talk about it negatively, it really derails the entire – like, the game plan of the Harris campaign, which is have no substance, don't think about it too hard.
00:49:08.520 It's all great.
00:49:09.200 Like, any nick, any scratch, anything that throws that off destroys their entire narrative.
00:49:16.180 Like, if Walls is a disaster, the only way you can salvage it is by hyping up how great Harris is.
00:49:21.980 And there's a fatal flaw with that problem, which is that Harris is awful.
00:49:25.140 And even in their own hype videos, they can only have one sentence from her because people don't like to hear her talk.
00:49:30.940 They aren't impressed by what she says.
00:49:33.900 She's a bad candidate.
00:49:35.540 And I think it's going to be incredibly difficult for them to hold this sort of fake plastic smile they've put on themselves for three straight months.
00:49:45.940 And I know it's been a tough couple weeks since she came in.
00:49:49.280 The polls got closer.
00:49:50.420 A lot of people who'd left Biden came back.
00:49:53.020 And it might even be tough all the way through the convention because they're going to have positive stuff from that.
00:49:58.760 But I think if we're damaging Walls and just forcing them to get Kamala out there to try to strengthen the campaign, we're in a good position.
00:50:06.540 It will be very hard for them to signal strength with nothing to back it up for that long.
00:50:11.680 In this picture, Congressman Walls here is holding a sign that says Enduring Freedom of Veterans for Care.
00:50:17.460 This right here, under current U.S. law, this could get the congressman probably thrown in jail in violation of the 2006 Stolen Valor Act,
00:50:26.860 which says it is a crime, a federal crime, to portray yourself in writing or verbally as having received an award or declaration authorized by Congress that you didn't receive.
00:50:37.460 And Congresswoman Walls is clearly claiming in this sign, in this picture with this sign, to be an Enduring Freedom veteran.
00:50:45.060 He is clearly, nobody disputes the fact that he is not an Afghanistaner or Enduring Freedom veteran.
00:50:50.880 So this represents a fairly serious issue.
00:50:56.180 Now, I might, Jack maybe can correct me on this, but I don't think just claiming to be on an operation would be a crime.
00:51:05.100 And technically, I think he was part of Enduring Freedom.
00:51:08.560 It's like he's taking advantage of the connection, but it was in support of...
00:51:14.100 So what I was trying to say earlier is that I've always said I served at Gitmo.
00:51:18.480 I've never referred to myself as an Operation Enduring Freedom veteran.
00:51:22.980 And even though, like, technically I am because Gitmo was considered under OEF, but it just doesn't feel right because everyone knows that OEF is generally referring to Afghanistan and you've served in Afghanistan.
00:51:38.360 So, you know, is he technically correct?
00:51:41.220 Yeah, but he didn't.
00:51:42.820 You know, he could have just said I served in NATO, right?
00:51:45.340 You know, what's wrong with saying I'm serving NATO?
00:51:47.120 But, of course, for political points, he wanted to paint the picture of him serving in Afghanistan.
00:51:53.700 So he's shading the truth.
00:51:55.580 Now, that being said, I believe that most of the Stalin-Valor Acts have more to do with awards rather than specific operations.
00:52:04.480 There's been a bunch of different iterations, and the Supreme Court's ruled a bit on this.
00:52:08.320 So I haven't looked at whatever the most updated version of it is.
00:52:12.120 But I know that it generally has to do with awards.
00:52:15.340 A recent Wisconsin poll just dropped, by the way, shows that Trump only down one, and that's a Marquette poll, which is a really good poll.
00:52:22.400 And so that's, with all this common momentum and all that stuff, Tim Walls, that's a good data poll.
00:52:28.080 For sure, for sure.
00:52:28.860 And we've talked about, you know, with Walls and Kamala, I think it shifted the coalitions to be a little bit more like they were in 2016 and 2020.
00:52:37.720 Which is good, because what did Wisconsin do in both of those elections?
00:52:41.580 Massively overperformed polling.
00:52:43.160 Overperformed polling.
00:52:43.840 Wisconsin, and this is why we're investing so heavily in Wisconsin in addition to Arizona, and we'll close with this.
00:52:50.020 You know, people say, Charlie, why Wisconsin?
00:52:52.440 Why Wisconsin?
00:52:53.440 It was the closest 2020 state of the blue wall, by far.
00:52:57.200 It is the hardest to poll, hardest to cheat, most decentralized, and the ones that are the most willing to just kind of check out of TV ads
00:53:06.800 and just really look at the candidates and shock pollsters time and time again.
00:53:11.420 Pennsylvania is tough.
00:53:13.540 It's just a tough, tough lift.
00:53:15.160 I'm checking it now.
00:53:16.120 Yep.
00:53:16.320 But in 2020, the RCP real-color politics average for Wisconsin was plus 6.7.
00:53:22.920 It overperformed by 6.
00:53:24.080 Yeah.
00:53:24.440 So, and by the way, 2016 was similar.
00:53:26.620 Similar, yes.
00:53:27.340 Both times.
00:53:28.140 Just absolutely insane.
00:53:28.640 Trump has overperformed by 6.
00:53:29.840 So, here's a question I have, Blake.
00:53:31.220 Have these pollsters adjusted their methodology to adapt to the errors in 2020, 2016?
00:53:40.220 They're always trying to do it, and overall, despite Wisconsin being bad, they were a bit better in 2020.
00:53:47.060 I do think 2024 is just going to be hard because, as we've said, the coalitions are so different.
00:53:51.960 We've never had even, like, a stint of an election where low-propensity voters leaned more Republican.
00:53:58.600 That's such a new reality.
00:54:00.060 Only Trump has factored that in.
00:54:02.740 Exactly.
00:54:03.420 And so, I think they'll try.
00:54:05.600 I think they might fail at it.
00:54:07.100 I don'tβ€”I'm a skeptic that, you know, they're ever engineering these polls just to do a specific thing.
00:54:12.020 No, I'm not saying that.
00:54:12.620 They want to be accurate.
00:54:12.940 I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that have they learned from their polling misses in years past, and this time they've changed their formula?
00:54:20.020 They've definitely adjusted them, whether they've done it successfully.
00:54:23.980 We really won't know, because what's crazy with this is we get a million polls, and we get one election day in November andβ€”
00:54:30.580 Yeah, and Iβ€”
00:54:31.260 Well, election month in October.
00:54:31.960 And I suppose, in addition, the sampling seems to be heavily Democratic recently in some of these polling.
00:54:38.980 It is, but this is a thing they'll point out every time, and you can't go too far with that because, well, if a candidate is doing better in the election,
00:54:46.960 more people are going to say, yes, I am a Democrat who supports this person.
00:54:52.260 So you'll see this.
00:54:54.060 They would do this a lot in 2012.
00:54:55.300 They would say, like, oh, they're oversampling Democrats relative to what they're supposed to be.
00:54:58.940 But they weren't.
00:55:00.180 It's just that there were more people saying they were Democrats because Obama was winning the election.
00:55:03.280 No, for sure.
00:55:04.300 I just think that with Trump's turnout ability, it's hard to sample that.
00:55:08.760 For sure.
00:55:09.040 For sure.
00:55:09.780 Okay.
00:55:10.740 Jack, this show is in honor of you, so congrats.
00:55:13.760 But I don't think we're out of the woods yet, Jack.
00:55:15.820 So keep that very special picture you have of Josh Shapiro handy.
00:55:19.680 Oh, don't worry, folks.
00:55:20.700 Just in case.
00:55:21.580 I've got more than enough on Josh Shapiro, on Tim Walls, on Mark Kelly, and anybody else who wants to step up
00:55:30.460 and make the very foolish decision of being next to Kamala Harris.
00:55:35.180 And it's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:55:37.140 I was supposed to be, like, off enjoying the fact that I got this New York Times bestseller in the same week.
00:55:42.840 And, of course, all the people on the book side are like, Jack, we need you for this interview.
00:55:46.980 We're doing a book tour down in Texas.
00:55:48.300 We're doing this big event.
00:55:49.300 I'm like, no, guys, I'm busy.
00:55:50.540 What do you mean?
00:55:51.240 I'm destroying Josh Shapiro.
00:55:52.400 I'm very busy right now.
00:55:53.440 I'll be back to you in a couple of days.
00:55:56.080 But fine.
00:55:56.780 Don't worry about it.
00:55:57.380 We've got receipts on all of them.
00:55:59.600 I want to just play Cut 99 really quick.
00:56:01.540 This is Tim Walls on C-SPAN.
00:56:03.120 Play Cut 99.
00:56:05.180 What's your background, and how did somebody from Nebraska end up in Minnesota?
00:56:08.920 Yeah, well, my wife's from Minnesota, so she took me there.
00:56:11.420 Actually, it was based on the educational system in Minnesota was one that we kind of aspired to teach in.
00:56:16.940 So I ended up in southern Minnesota.
00:56:18.240 My wife's been there for many generations.
00:56:21.000 And your military background?
00:56:22.240 I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full time.
00:56:25.300 I was an artilleryman.
00:56:26.340 I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.
00:56:28.520 My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan.
00:56:37.460 And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time.
00:56:40.380 Next call, Lotton, Oklahoma, for Congressman Tim Walls.
00:56:42.960 Good morning.
00:56:44.040 Good morning.
00:56:45.220 Well, it's very carefully worded there.
00:56:48.260 All right, guys, we've got to run.
00:56:49.360 Fast and fast.
00:56:50.080 Thanks so much.
00:56:50.940 Keep on committing thought crimes.
00:56:52.180 We'll see if Tim Walls survives.
00:56:53.300 Thanks so much.
00:56:53.760 The crime is death.
00:56:58.180 The crime is death.