THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 59 — Bring Back Blue States？ Michigan Vibe Shift？ Forrest Gump, Bad？
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If you could change anything about the U.S. political system, that's not a partisan thing, like, oh I'm a conservative, I want a conservative thing to happen, but just one neutral thing about the system, what would it be?
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The DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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I literally just got the message that says, open Jack.
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I assume if I click on it, my crypto wallet gets strained.
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Well, we were just talking before we went live.
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If you could change anything about the U.S. political system that's not a, that's not like
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a partisan thing, like, oh, I'm a conservative.
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But just change one neutral thing about the system.
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Because it was like, we were talking about how it feels like this is the never ending
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election, even though we are actually close to the end of the election.
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And then we know that whatever the next cycle is, it's going to start, like, probably halfway
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So we were joking before about how the British have this system where, you know, you're only
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legally allowed to campaign, like, I forget what it is, three or four weeks prior to the
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And so, you know, it would be kind of, kind of nice if we could have that.
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I mean, obviously it would run up against the first amendment, but kind of nice if, if
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just like get away from politics for two seconds, but no, no, we can't do that.
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So, so yeah, the question is, um, and, and Blake, that's what you were saying.
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You wanted to, you'd want to, you'd want to change the primary date, I think.
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Yeah, I think I would just make it so like you have a, you, like you said, we, maybe you
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have two or three weeks of official campaigning for a primary.
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You have your official primary day, maybe like last week of September, first week of
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Then you have your month election period and then bam, you're done.
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It's over and you can't start campaigning again until pretty close to the next election.
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Isn't that a, just, well, how do you reconcile that with free speech though?
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So I think what you can do is you can still shorten the actual campaign period.
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Like you could make it so you don't actually announce your camp, like you just make it so
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campaigns are not official until shortly before the election.
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But you can, you can still advocate, you could still advocate, you could do it, but you
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could make it so like all the spending and donation is way more efficient only during
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Then how do you regulate outside groups to spend money in June?
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Like there are, there are obvious, I'm saying this is a change I would make, you know, I'm
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not saying it's illegal to make it or easy use.
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We're just saying like if you were, you know, like wave a magic wand and could change something.
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So you think there should be a national primary date?
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You want a big government nationalized primary date instead of like a state's rights.
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I don't know that it's a super important part of states' rights.
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You don't think it's important that states get to decide here in Arizona.
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You know, as entertaining as it is, and I guess as lucrative as it is for us as people who
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cover politics, I don't think it's like super amazing that it takes like eight months,
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just the primary process, and we have all this maneuvering where like Iowa matters a
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ton, and then New Hampshire, and then like, oh, well, to your point, wait, if there was
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one thing I would change, it would be the first in the nation primaries.
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And so I know there's a lot of people who are like, that's the holy of holies, you can't
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In the RNC, too, they're like, you can't touch Iowa or New Hampshire.
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We are in thrall to the corn god who commands that we prostrate ourselves before him in the
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I mean, I think there should be like a lottery, and this would make it be like a big thing.
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Like everybody, it would be like a big national thing, big lottery thing, and like we're all
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Like if your state is like doing really bad, like economically, you would get more balls
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So the one thing, I think that it's time, and it's still law, to go back to taxpayer-funded
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It's just that every year the candidates reject the money.
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I think what you need to do is make the money so hard, like say that you get $2 billion,
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But you can't, by the way, just so we're clear, that means there's no fundraisers.
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And then you have to figure, and I say this as someone who runs an outside group, a PAC
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and a C4 with Tyler, you got to figure a way to rein in the outside groups.
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The Citizens United case was legitimately the right decision, like constitutionally.
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To be clear, the specific case, they wanted to like censor a documentary attacking Hillary.
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Just so we're clear, it was one of those things where it was the right constitutional
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Nobody saw what the left was going to do after that, which was like basically weaponize all
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And we're just barely figuring this out as a nation.
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Basically, what it has done is it's gamified politics of whoever has the more complex,
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sophisticated infrastructure against political power, not who has better ideas or a better
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The entire concept of America is built on the individual.
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So anything that takes away from the individual, whether that's, again, the same argument the
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This is the same thing as corporations acting as C3s and C4s.
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So this would be another controversial kind of secular, nonpartisan change, but maybe a
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little more dangerous and definitely not good for us right now.
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But I do kind of wonder if like, would it be good if we had a very long, but in existence
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No, you need to term limits first on Congress before you go to Supreme Court.
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So the thinking here is what I'm thinking is, is it's clearly like, one thing that's
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clearly driving the left insane and why they're going to like nuke the filibuster and
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do all this radical stuff is because they see the Supreme Court as this like huge obstacle.
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Actually, I think Steve Saylor proposed this where basically you still have the nine justices
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and what it is, is when you get picked, you get an 18 year term.
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And if you die or retire, you can be replaced, but that replacement can only serve out your
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And then what this does, just to finish it up, what this would do is it means every president
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It would take three consecutive terms in a row to get a majority on the Supreme Court.
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And you wouldn't get this thing where like, you know, there's as it's not as tempting to
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like pack the court and it would diminish somewhat this thing where they've realized
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having them on the court for life is such an advantage.
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So we're picking like 40 year olds to serve on the Supreme Court now because they're like,
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And it's clearly like people part, both parties are starting to realize the extreme elements
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And I do worry it's going to eventually like cause one of them to have a psychotic break
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It's because post Bork, the Supreme Court has become politicized.
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And it made sense too that like we needed it to be more political because what we were
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doing is we just had like Eisenhower going and picking Earl Warren and then Earl Warren
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is going and be like, yeah, I'm just going to remake the entire constitutional order.
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Well, personally, his court was an improvement over Warren's.
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That'll get clipped because they'll be like, oh, Warren did the just stop.
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Warren like, I mean, that's why we get all these, you know, insane pro crime decisions.
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You get that's where you get the Supreme Court saying, actually, all those laws that ban
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racial discrimination actually require racial discrimination.
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And, you know, you have the rights to abortion.
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Like all this insane stuff comes out of the judicial ideology they had.
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Jack had a fun rule he wanted to change in the U.S. political system.
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Well, I want to ask you this question before you get to Jack's real quick.
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Would you trade term limits for Congress, for Supreme Court?
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So Charlie said that we need, would you want Supreme Court term limits if we could get congressional
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I don't know that term limits in Congress are overall as useful.
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I don't know what you'd be fixing with that necessarily.
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I worry that if you had term limits in Congress, it would make Congress even more kind of controlled
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by like lobbyists and D.C. lifers because there would be no one with like the level of experience
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They would just kind of do what I think that was the intention of Congress to begin with.
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I mean, California has term limits and is California like we have term limits here in Arizona.
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One crazy idea I had was if you made it so once you like serve in Congress or in a senior
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executive position, you can literally never earn more money than you make while a member
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You maybe go into it after your career is done.
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That won't hold up in court though, unfortunately.
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Give me one example of where you've been able to say you can't earn a certain amount of money.
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Well, you could earn a certain amount of money, but you could radically increase their
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I am in favor of taking the money of people who are in the government.
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You can outlaw someone becoming a lobbyist after...
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Like lifetime or like decade-long lobbying ban.
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And often my thought was you could also actually hike the pay of Congress.
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In Singapore, government officials are paid a ton of money.
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You could maybe say, yeah, senators, you make 400K a year or 500K.
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But you can never make more than that once you leave.
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And you know, that would be a few million dollars.
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But I think the incentive shift would be better.
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Well, you're going to miss out on a very fun topic, but it's okay.
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So the first one that I wanted to say is just that I don't.
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So, you know, just having little kids, it's really tough.
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And Tyler, I'm sure you can attest to this as well.
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That it's really tough having election season being this close to Halloween because it's
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like you, you want to do, you know, the fun fall stuff.
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You want to do jack-o'-lanterns and pumpkins and Tanya Tay is like, oh, let's go for on
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And I'm like, no, let's go to Pennsylvania and North Carolina and Georgia and win the
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And you're like, meanwhile, you know, because it's again, the first Tuesday after the first
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And that made sense when we were an agrarian society.
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But now it's sort of like, like, you know, lots of modern countries vote on all sorts
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And, you know, Blake and I were joking before we went live that I used the old joke that,
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So it's the day after everybody pays taxes or something, you know, that's that when you
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have everyone go to the polls, but it's just like, does it really have to be this close
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We were just actually just talking about this with Charlie because Charlie's like, Hey, I've
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got, he's like, I've got some space on my calendar to do some extra things.
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We're trying to figure out with our team going out and doing more, get out the vote stuff.
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And he's like, okay, I have this time on a Thursday and I'm like, okay, show it to me.
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He's like, he's like, can we go do a big rally?
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I'm like, it's going to be really hard in the Midwest to get a bunch of families together
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And I was like, well, like, well, what can we do?
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We're thinking of some other strategies that we're going to do some other things that night
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later that night while everybody's at home and kids are like lining up their candy on
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That means we have a, that means that's a thought crime night, isn't it?
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Is Charlie normal on Halloween or does he have, I know some, some people are like, you
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know, it's so in and it's like, it's like demonic or satanic or whatever.
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Well, I mean, look, we have a lot of religious that are listening at home right now who are
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I kick the more, you know, hallmark approach to Halloween, which is just like culturally,
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I think this is a thought crime subject that we can kind of maybe transform this into.
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Cause it's like literally days, hours, stressful moments before the election.
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But here's the bigger question is, is, uh, you know, on Halloween is like how much, uh,
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how much should you celebrate Halloween in general?
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And as a American cultural element, which I love Halloween because the, the culture in
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it, when you go overseas and Jack can probably attest to this a little bit with his extended
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family and everything else, like people abroad have this obsession with how America celebrates
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Well, so in, in Eastern Europe, um, all saints day and all souls day are bigger than Halloween.
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So Halloween is growing like in Westernized places, uh, in different parts of even like
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Asia and Europe, but in Eastern Europe, the, so like the institution of Halloween goes back
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to all saints day being November 1st and then all souls days the day after.
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So, you know, in Eastern Europe, if it's, if it's early November and you go to the cemetery
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and this is where that we get the name Halloween comes from all Hallows Eve and hallowed being
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And so let's wait, like when you say that our father, um, you know, hallowed be thy name,
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So on, on that day, if you go to a cemetery in Poland or anywhere in Eastern Europe, you're
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just going to see candles everywhere and garlands of wreaths and bouquets of flowers.
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And it's not, it's not like the Mexican day of the dead, although it's, it's not dissimilar.
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I mean, there's certainly some similarities to it in terms of honoring those who passed
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And it's, so you don't know, you don't get like trick or treating and jack-o'-lanterns
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and things like this and other parts of the world, uh, and the costumes and all.
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Again, you are starting to see some areas that are celebrating it in the American way in
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the same way that it's seemingly like you can go to like Japan and China and some places
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that they have, uh, they have like Santa Claus and Christmas, but then of course you can't
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go to Saudi Arabia and celebrate Christmas because Christian holidays are banned in the
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But there was, there was the one other change, the one other change, Blake, that we, that
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Cause Blake and I are actually in agreement, red and blue.
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We want to change it back to is what the greatest cultural hijacking of the Republican party
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happened in that election with Bush where they swapped the colors on us.
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It was NBC news, um, or CBS is one of the two that, cause remember this is like, this,
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this is just before the 24 hour news cycle cable news had really taken.
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That is the red States and blue States thing did not exist prior to the year 2000.
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It was NBC got together in cahoots with CBS where that you would tune in and they just
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decided overnight to swap red States and blue States, probably because they saw polling
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that said that people didn't like the color red as much.
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Well, I think they used to, they used to just actually like switch it back and forth a lot.
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It was always, it was the, the blue States during Reagan.
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It was like Reagan was blue and that was like in the American psyche.
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And this is because you know what it was though.
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It was because Tyler, what it was, was that some, some, uh, networks did it, that blue
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was the incumbent and then red was the challenger.
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So because Reagan was the incumbent, Reagan was blue and then his challengers would be in
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But even prior to that, I think it's what Blake said.
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It was just sort of like you would depict your opposition as blue basically, or excuse me,
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your opposition would be red because during the cold war, nobody wanted to be red.
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And your point too, is this, is that worldwide, all of the labor party colors, all of the, uh,
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socialism left of center colors are always red on every map, every, uh, and again, outside
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of America, it's the conservative parties sometimes take hold, but then most of them are known as
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liberal democratic parties, which are the Republican equivalents in most, in most
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And they're always depicted as blue, always depicted as blue, not swapped.
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And that is not taught in schools and it should be taught in schools and we should demand it.
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You know, when Trump takes back over, he should come out and be like, I think we need to have
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I'm not going to, we're going to make this an executive order.
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Yeah, it should be, we're going to do a blue MAGA hat and this next election, JD, God bless
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He's going to be an incredible president or whoever, you know, whoever Trump endorses, he's
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Otherwise we're going to cut funding for PBS, whatever.
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But then Trump wouldn't be able to wear his red tie, that's the issue.
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And PBS should come out and you put, you put PBS should come out.
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Hey, just so you know, this next election, Republicans are going to be depicted as blue
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and then everyone's going to have to follow suit.
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Now I'm, I'm looking now like through the history and they like, yeah, they actually
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do overtly say this where they were just like, yeah, like, you know, the red state
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thing associated, the Democrats were not happy about being associated with like pinko commies.
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So they wanted such a scam, man, such a scam, total scam, just straight up hijacking.
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We haven't even gotten to our actual like first topic, but that was a fun, a fun riff.
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So basically, you know, I think like the worst defeat in the entire history of the Royal
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Navy was, I think it was, there was a battle they lost in World War One where like one
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German ship sank like eight of their ships or something like that.
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Anyway, when that happened, it was maybe 3% of the total Royal Navy.
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Anyway, I only bring that up for comparison because basically more than 10% of the entire
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It is their first ship lost since World War Two.
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Let me get the name because it's this like whack-a-doodle.
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This is not the U.S. Navy, but it's, you know, part of the American empire because who are
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And so this was the HMNZS Manawanui, a hydrographic vessel commissioned in 2019.
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And it sank off the coast of Samoa four days ago because it ran aground on like, it ran
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aground somehow, had a, had a gash ripped in it and the whole thing sank.
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And that is noteworthy because the captain of this nautical vessel was the first woman
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and first lesbian commander of a ship in the New Zealand Navy.
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And, you know, people, people are drawing hateful conclusions based on that, Charlie.
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So, uh, why would they draw hateful conclusions?
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But you're not allowed to mention that she's, was she chosen for as like a DEI deal?
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Well, you know, officially no, but unofficially, who are we kidding?
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Uh, we're not supposed to talk about it now, but I think we can all agree, you know, before
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she unfortunately managed to do the one thing you're not supposed to do with your boat, which
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Uh, it was probably, it was kind of highlighted, you know, Oh, look, look at the diversity we have
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We have this extreme, this extremely diverse person doing this not traditionally diverse
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Uh, so, you know, we're all very happy about this, but this is an incredible thing I wanted
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to highlight, which right after this happened, a, uh, a fellow on X named, uh, John Conrad,
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He says, I interviewed a female veteran who served as an officer on American ships about
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this incident, the ship sinking, and she shared an intriguing perspective I've never heard
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She said it took men centuries and thousands of shipwrecks to master commanding ships without
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And we should expect some losses as women who think differently, learn the ropes and gain
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the experience of doing it their way, doing it.
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She said losses are to be expected and they are okay, especially if there's no loss of
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She said, we shouldn't try to investigate this from a male perspective, but learn lessons
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Charlie, women are learning how to drive boats without sinking them.
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And we need to be understanding this boat cost a hundred million dollars, by the way.
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And, uh, you just, we gotta, we've gotta be very understanding and empathetic about this,
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you know, as we worry about China expanding aggressively and we're going to, the real tragedy,
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Charlie would be if we allowed this sunk boat to sink our commitment to diversity.
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We need to, we need to sail, you know, the high seas of equity can be, can be turbulent,
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I think these programs have gone completely overboard.
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He's completely overboard, but these programs, I think we should hoist these programs by the
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And we would definitely want to keel hall over in laughter when we hear more, but I don't
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want anyone to be too salty when they hear that the record won't go as well as everyone
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So you don't need to be wearing a Dixie cup to understand that this isn't going to work.
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I could probably do more, but I'm just going to stop there.
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Um, it does remind me though, of, uh, funny enough, it's not really a DEI story, but, um,
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Blake, you're familiar with the work of L. Ron Hubbard, right?
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He, it was, it was called this, this, this, the, um, he has a, the church of Scientology
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That's where like you get the top level Scientology.
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It's the C organization, the C or T eight or something they call it.
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But did you know, did you know that L. Ron Hubbard prior to all of this in world war
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And when he was in the Navy officer, he worked on a patrol boat out of San Diego.
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And one of his jobs was to on the patrol boat was to escort, um, like aircraft carriers
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in and out of Harbor again, during world war two.
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So there was this real risk that Japanese submarines might come in and attack the aircraft carriers
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This was a time when they were extremely vulnerable, obviously Pearl Harbor had happened.
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So, uh, there was a lot of tension around the harbors.
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And so at one point he escorts this, uh, I don't see what ship it was here.
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He escorts this aircraft carrier out and then he's bringing it back in and he orders his
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men to, he's very young here as before Dianetics and everything.
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And he orders the men to sail towards these islands that are just South of Coronado.
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And when he, when he does this, he then decides to hold an unsanctioned, um, gunnery exercise
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while he's there and says, open fire on those islands.
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And let's just get some gunnery exercise while we're in unscheduled, et cetera, et cetera.
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Well, it turns out that he had actually sailed, uh, South of the border and into the territorial
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And that those were the part of the Coronado Island chain that actually fell under Mexican
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Uh, and so long story short, L Ron Hubbard was relieved of command for accidentally declaring
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Now, wait a minute, Charlie, on this topic, someone did have a good commentary here, and this
00:27:55.860
The comment on the thread was it's always the left celebrating people's sexuality and where
00:28:04.060
they come from, from a minority status or whatever else until they screw up and then
00:28:11.300
So it's always like, look at this wonderful captain of the ship.
00:28:15.540
That's a lesbian, the first lesbian ever to captain a ship.
00:28:18.180
And then she sinks the ship and then she's not a lesbian anymore.
00:28:22.140
And it's the same thing that happens whenever people commit crime that are out on the streets
00:28:26.240
is they, they, you know, they want to celebrate people for their, for their gender, for their
00:28:33.960
But as soon as they commit a crime, they're like, Oh, I think this is a man with a dark
00:28:38.940
He's no longer, you know, Hispanic or black or whatever, whenever, whenever somebody commits
00:28:47.080
And that's actually what's destructive in society.
00:28:52.760
All of a sudden, I mean, over the summer, we thought Michigan was kind of dead.
00:28:55.980
And all of a sudden, Michigan has roared back to life as a legitimate, not a BS, like one
00:29:08.440
All of a sudden, poll after poll shows Trump up in Michigan.
00:29:13.800
Well, I have a theory and then I want to hear your theory.
00:29:16.000
Well, I mean, look, we, we saw in 2016, the surprise win in Michigan happened because
00:29:21.400
the left invested so little into the state of Michigan that they thought it was just
00:29:25.360
like a done deal that Hillary was going to win Michigan.
00:29:29.520
We can get into potentially down the road here.
00:29:31.360
But Michigan is just right over the border from Ohio.
00:29:35.460
Blue collar workers, the unions are clearly coming out in support of Donald Trump.
00:29:41.260
So the polling that's taking place within the SEIU, for example, which is huge in Michigan,
00:29:47.000
is coming out and saying that we've got a big Trump base here that is unexpected.
00:29:54.060
That spells doom for the left because there's a lot of secret voters, a lot of people who
00:29:57.440
don't want to come out and talk about it because union bosses in the state of Michigan are
00:30:02.680
going to hammer you for coming out and supporting Republicans, but that doesn't mean they're not
00:30:07.780
So that's part of what you're seeing in Michigan.
00:30:09.740
You have a lot of, they have a huge problem that we've discussed at length in the inner cities
00:30:15.060
We saw, I personally saw it walking along the streets.
00:30:17.860
There are a lot of black men who are in Michigan who are voting for Trump.
00:30:23.560
The Hispanic numbers for Trump are up like an extra 15% across the country.
00:30:27.780
So all those things kind of pull into one thing, which is that's doom for the left.
00:30:33.280
And then not to mention, you have a huge Muslim population that exists in Michigan who are
00:30:41.420
And if they're looking at this and they're going, Hey, if I don't trust Kamala, why would
00:30:45.760
I vote for somebody who's economically going to destroy my business?
00:30:50.320
And so we, that's well said there, there's the, the black men are defecting and they're
00:30:54.800
trying to do some rap concert or something to rally them.
00:30:56.760
The Arab Muslim thing, which I want to talk about, Blake, the Israel thing is really screwing
00:31:00.920
It's sort of, it's not getting nearly as much public attention.
00:31:05.300
In all the states where the Israel thing is really hurting them, Michigan is number one.
00:31:10.100
And the stuff that's just quietly going on, a very funny one.
00:31:14.540
Did you know that the student government at the university of Michigan is like a bunch
00:31:19.340
of anti-Israel zealots and they, they got elected on a platform of like, shut it down
00:31:26.800
And they started defunding all of the student programs.
00:31:29.840
And so there's a hilarious article in, um, either tablet or forward one, one of the Jewish
00:31:34.280
magazines that's saying like, you know, they're pointing out that kind of no one cared about
00:31:41.600
And still they started like, they defunded the ultimate Frisbee team.
00:31:45.000
They started just yanking funding from all these things.
00:31:47.880
Like they shut down like a shuttle service to the airport or something like that.
00:31:51.600
Cause they're like, we're shutting it down until, until like a Michigan divests from Israel.
00:32:00.400
And what, so what stands out there is of course, this is not just a bunch of like, you know,
00:32:06.640
You, it kind of is a crossover of you have Arab Americans and Muslims who are very,
00:32:11.600
uh, passionate about this, but also just sort of your, your young college, really ideologically
00:32:19.900
You know, so the people who go to Ann Arbor and excuse me.
00:32:24.900
And so these people who would normally be doing tons of get out the vote, these are
00:32:28.600
the people who would have been, you know, harvesting every ballot for Obama.
00:32:32.940
They're the ones who were, you know, pretty active for, well, I should say they actually
00:32:36.500
helped Hillary lose cause they were on mad about the Bernie Sanders thing.
00:32:39.600
Now these people are, this type of person is very angry about, uh, the war in Lebanon.
00:32:46.300
The fact, you know, they're still mad about Gaza.
00:32:50.580
And the American wider media has sort of, I don't want to say moved on cause they are
00:32:55.960
still covering it, but they aren't as attuned to this.
00:32:59.020
But for this subset of the liberal coalition, it's a huge deal.
00:33:07.320
Have you heard about what's going on with a Ta-Nehisi Coates?
00:33:09.800
Yeah, no, but I've, I've seen his name pop up in a lot of group chats.
00:33:13.280
I, again, I'm a little busy trying to track early ballots.
00:33:19.400
Well, he kind of, he kind of just did like the 10, seven thing that they're all doing
00:33:23.920
basically, well, so he did, but he helps do it.
00:33:28.180
He was one of the first to do it as well because he, uh, he signed like an open letter
00:33:33.960
right after the Gaza attack that people didn't like the wording of.
00:33:37.140
But what was going on with, uh, Coates is he has a new book out now, which is like, I
00:33:41.980
think his first book since between the world and me, which is a terrible book, but I'll
00:33:46.740
So Coates has a new book out and one of the essays in it is basically critical of Israel
00:33:53.500
says, you know, Israel, Palestine is apartheid or whatever.
00:33:56.360
And what's very funny about this is suddenly like some of the left, cause you know, there
00:34:00.280
are people on the left who are very pro Israel and they get there.
00:34:02.780
This, a lot of the people who used to push Coates really aggressively got very amped up
00:34:07.880
And this is blowing up CBS news right now because, uh, I need to get the clip number.
00:34:16.040
He's on CBS news and they're interviewing him about his book.
00:34:19.460
And just imagine the guy who everyone was saying was like the greatest black intellectual
00:34:24.000
in America getting treated like this in 2014, 2015.
00:34:29.980
And I have to say when I, when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took
00:34:35.760
away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away.
00:34:39.980
The content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist.
00:34:45.660
And so then I found myself wondering why does Ta-Nehisi Coates, who I've known for a long
00:34:51.160
time, read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy leave out so much.
00:34:56.080
Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it?
00:35:00.540
Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?
00:35:04.240
Why not detail anything of the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus
00:35:10.960
And is it because you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist?
00:35:19.560
Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, um, there is no shortage of
00:35:33.040
They apparently have a like race department inside CBS news that why?
00:35:39.960
It's like, it's like a special investigative unit just focuses on race.
00:35:44.420
No, no, but is it, is it that they were too hard on him or not?
00:35:46.260
They were too hard on him, that they were too hard on him, which Coates himself actually
00:35:50.340
I think I don't like Coates, but he's kind of a genial guy.
00:35:53.420
So he actually responded to it well, but a lot of people were like, this was like a racist
00:35:59.920
And of course the, you know, they say like CBS is shilling for Israel too hard.
00:36:06.680
And so if you look at kind of the corners of X that we're not normally seeing, that's
00:36:12.560
People got super angry that they got so aggressive on him.
00:36:16.140
And so I think if you're seeing the shift, this is to get it back to Michigan.
00:36:23.480
If you are a person who's active and involved on left-wing politics, they are paying attention
00:36:29.300
to this a ton, even if maybe our show isn't talking about as much or Fox news or, you know,
00:36:35.540
even other mainstream news outlets, if they're not focused on as much, it's still a top one,
00:36:40.920
top two issue for these left-wing groups that Kamala is probably going to need to get over
00:36:47.640
And I think people often overstate the percentage of these states that is Muslim or Arab, but
00:36:56.780
And if you imagine that's maybe a normally a 70% Democrat demographic, and if that only
00:37:02.700
becomes 50%, 45%, if a lot of them stay home, we've often discussed how in any of these swing
00:37:10.620
states, about 45% of the vote is just locked in for each side.
00:37:14.520
So a little like 1% dip in your turnout is catastrophic.
00:37:18.240
I have a projection to make here, I guess, an estimation.
00:37:23.020
I bet Kamala is going to lose more of the Muslim vote in Michigan than Trump will lose
00:37:34.460
No, I mean, this is the whole narrative that they're trying to push from the Kamala campaign
00:37:37.460
in Arizona and Nevada is that like, oh, all this stuff.
00:37:43.080
But the real story that's happening to this point is that there is a significant bleed out
00:37:50.280
I would argue even the Jewish vote that we'll see.
00:37:59.220
So like that could be part of the narrative that comes out of this election is, you know,
00:38:05.200
Trump wins as we expect in the, in the Sunbelt.
00:38:13.120
And we look at the numbers and Trump potentially picks off Michigan.
00:38:18.000
Well, a big part of the narrative and story needs to be and should be is that, hey, you
00:38:23.540
know, we need to spend more time, number one, with the unions.
00:38:26.080
And this is a big conversation for the next four years is we need to talk about Vladimir
00:38:31.860
Lennon, Vladimir Lennon hated the unions for one reason, one reason alone.
00:38:36.440
Because communism and union spirit don't jive together.
00:38:39.960
And so we have to talk about that and how they all work together.
00:38:44.300
And we need to embrace that in the right way with the Republican Party.
00:38:48.220
But then this whole issue on the Muslim communities, which is that, you know, it turns out when
00:38:53.460
you come to America and you're looking for the American dream and you want to run a business
00:38:56.000
that's more important than, you know, just like kowtowing to like these like stupid
00:39:01.380
little idiosyncrasies that the Democrats have within minority communities.
00:39:07.960
And that if we break through that in the next year, it's game over.
00:39:13.900
Like we mentioned, that's what the Jewish community that's with anyone else is like, hey,
00:39:17.080
life is better in America when the government leaves me alone.
00:39:19.480
We don't talk about our race, our ethnicity, even our religion first with those with the
00:39:26.100
We talk about what makes America great, leaving me alone so I can just live my life and we
00:39:32.520
And I don't want to get into all that because that's just like, that's not what thought
00:39:35.600
But like, this is a real issue is I think, you know, all this talk that the left focuses
00:39:43.400
on all these little tiny minority communities, including the LDS community that's here,
00:39:48.300
the Muslim community, we have to take what's there on the table and make a real effort.
00:39:54.060
And the first year of the Trump administration, the Jack, do you have a thought on that?
00:40:01.980
Well, no, I just from the union perspective that I know that, you know, looking at Pennsylvania
00:40:06.320
and we started talking about Michigan, but Josh Piro up there is not whipping the union
00:40:11.240
votes the way that you would normally see in a presidential year.
00:40:14.300
You're not seeing the big union bosses come out for Kamala Harris.
00:40:17.440
You're just not seeing that level of support at the institutional level.
00:40:20.860
And then at the, you know, the factory level or whatever you want to call it, the construction
00:40:25.580
site level, you're not, again, those guys are all Trump supporters to begin with.
00:40:29.660
So the fact that you're not seeing this big union support, the firefighters union just
00:40:33.600
come out to say that they're not going to be endorsing this year.
00:40:43.020
I think all of us have been talking about it for a long time, that we're living through
00:40:46.700
a restructuring and it used to be that the Republicans were the party of quote unquote
00:40:51.500
the rich and the Democrats for the party, the working man, the working family.
00:41:00.140
So are the Republicans as a party and will the administration, the Trump administration,
00:41:05.100
which Deo Valente will come in to power in a couple of weeks here, that are they really
00:41:14.220
And I think J.D. Vance, of course, being that generational pick, a transformational pick
00:41:17.900
to be able to do so is uniquely positioned to make that outreach.
00:41:22.660
So the other thing that they're saying that's playing a role in Michigan is Michigan has
00:41:27.040
a ton of working class men that are low propensity, that because of Michigan's looser
00:41:35.860
voter registration rules, I think you can register up to the day voting, right, Tyler?
00:41:39.480
That there's a lot of working class men that are getting into the roles that are throwing
00:41:46.520
I mean, in Michigan, more than any other place, there is what you could call technical school
00:41:51.780
culture where you don't go to four year college and you just kind of because of the auto
00:41:55.900
manufacturing understand it's not just that you work for a Ford or GM.
00:42:01.740
People that just specialize in making tires, that just specialize in making like lube parts,
00:42:07.800
And there's hundreds of thousands of men and women, but mostly men that work in these
00:42:14.140
And they're saying that the male problem could tip Michigan.
00:42:18.140
And then you got Gretchen Whitmer doing the Doritos Eucharist.
00:42:26.840
It's interesting if that if that's correct, because it would be backfiring.
00:42:30.920
I when I've said I've argued Michigan is probably the toughest get.
00:42:34.720
And one of the biggest factors is they have probably the most militant left wing government
00:42:42.220
Like you have Whitmer, you have your their secretary of state who I is that Noslin or
00:42:50.960
And then you have like Jocelyn Berger or something.
00:42:53.840
OK, both of those people, Dana Nessel is a very evil.
00:43:02.320
So it's like the Troika Troika of girl bosses in Michigan.
00:43:12.340
They care about maximizing the left's odds of getting wins.
00:43:17.980
And for Democrats for decades, that was make it as easy as possible to register.
00:43:23.620
Make it as easy as possible to get those low propensity voters in.
00:43:27.200
If we're correct, that low propensity is a conservative leaning group.
00:43:31.380
This election, it would definitely be funny and interesting if like we were to win Michigan
00:43:36.560
and maybe not Wisconsin specifically because of that.
00:43:41.900
They still say Pennsylvania is the most likely of the three kind of blue wall states.
00:43:52.660
Again, Kamala has no lack of money because she's getting, you know, probably allegedly
00:43:56.240
Iranian laundered money through ActBlue, which there's no way that ActBlue is legitimate.
00:44:07.560
So the, it's not like she has to pick and choose.
00:44:12.960
And so the, I think Blake, you're hitting something really smart, which is that kind
00:44:18.660
of like the reign of terror of like middle-aged women of Michigan, the reign of terror of the
00:44:23.260
middle-aged women of Michigan, like the men are like enough, right?
00:44:27.200
We have a girl boss, a secretary of state, a girl boss, an attorney general, a girl boss,
00:44:38.140
The men of Michigan, and let me just say you one thing.
00:44:42.360
Muslims have, Muslim men and women have a very hard time voting for a female for office.
00:44:47.940
They don't believe women should be involved in politics.
00:44:49.900
Now, I don't share that view, but that is a Islamic view that like, you know how many
00:44:54.900
Muslim women come up to me on campus asking for selfies?
00:45:03.600
I had like, oh, women shouldn't be in politics.
00:45:12.900
That part of the third world is going to hurt the girl boss brigade.
00:45:20.160
You know, they might be Detroit Lions are looking spotty.
00:45:22.680
We might need them to lose a game here or there.
00:45:26.400
All my sports correlated to politics stuff blew up when I thought that Herschel Walker was going
00:45:34.160
I feel like, you know, maybe if they're, we need the Michigan men to be a little more
00:45:40.320
As long as Oregon beats Michigan on the 2nd of November, of which I may or may not go
00:45:47.280
Tyler wants me in Happy Valley that day of the Penn State, Ohio State game.
00:45:57.280
Because we were talking about how optimism is more important for the right.
00:45:59.900
So do we, for our turnout to be up, do we need their teams to be winning?
00:46:03.000
So they like win at sports, win at election, or do we need them to be like, America's finished.
00:46:08.860
Penn State is not even going to win the Big Ten.
00:46:11.740
If Penn State beats Ohio State, I guarantee you we'll win that state.
00:46:19.180
Let me ask, when was the last time Penn State football beat OSU?
00:46:29.180
Last time was October 22, 2016, when Trump won the White House, baby.
00:46:37.540
They won in a dramatic upset, 24-21 in Beaver Stadium.
00:46:48.600
Yeah, that was like their first big win coming out of the whole scandal, remember?
00:46:52.060
Because that's when they started turning things around after the whole Sandusky stuff.
00:46:55.440
All right, let's see how many more partners I have to mention here.
00:47:02.980
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00:47:07.460
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Or we can talk about the tranny Star Wars Stormtrooper.
00:47:50.860
Lieutenant Dan, homeless guy that's actually a really bad guy with a criminal history,
00:47:54.360
stayed in his boat throughout Hurricane Milton and lived.
00:48:08.100
Because he literally stayed in his boat throughout the entire hurricane.
00:48:11.060
And his logic was like, well, this is him right there.
00:48:20.100
He said, if the Storm Surge goes up, his boat will just go up.
00:48:26.680
And by the way, he also walks around with like.
00:48:47.980
And he tried to set his wife on fire or something.
00:48:51.140
Apparently he battered an officer with a violin.
00:49:23.700
You know, a real thought crime would be Forrest Gump's not a very good movie.
00:49:32.060
But like, especially 30 years on, I think we have to recognize a lot of Forrest Gump is
00:49:37.240
like a very, it's like the most obnoxious elements of like boomer self-worship.
00:49:43.460
Because Forrest Gump is a literally like message, but it is a good movie.
00:49:50.880
Forrest Gump is the equivalent of we didn't start the fire.
00:49:57.800
You don't have to like his voice, but you can appreciate the historical context that's
00:50:05.300
The entire movie is just like mentally challenged, boomer lives through like important things
00:50:12.280
and like becomes rich inexplicably and also like makes the civil rights movement succeed.
00:50:20.800
And it's like every boomer is like, I did that.
00:50:31.420
And you know, in the novel, he like goes into outer space and he becomes like a senator
00:50:38.680
It is definitely the worst novel to have ever been turned into a like well-received motion
00:50:46.000
The movie made it more realistic, which is crazy.
00:50:50.260
Like the movie made the book more realistic to Jack's point.
00:50:53.100
Well, when you first see it as a, I will say though, as a young kid, when I first saw
00:50:56.600
it, it teaches you about the sixties and seventies though.
00:51:02.920
Like makes it, it makes history a little bit more fun, which I appreciate.
00:51:07.420
And I mean, and then also it's just, yeah, I mean, there's, and it's pretty accurate.
00:51:11.160
Like some, like how, like the whole, like Black Panther scene.
00:51:15.520
They, every single piece that they had on there, like there's like actually really like
00:51:22.540
There's like fun parts, like a fun spin on like really like heavy parts of like American
00:51:28.420
history and like the middle of the middle of the 20th century.
00:51:30.760
Like, yeah, what about, what about the fact that Jenny is the villain of Forrest Gump?
00:51:40.500
I mean, she was like dumb, but she constantly cheated on Forrest and was like so bad.
00:51:46.700
No, she abused, no, she just, she abused a, a, a person that totally took advantage of
00:51:54.780
She manipulated him and it was, and like, she only came back to him when she had like a
00:52:01.860
Now you get to meet your son because I'm dying.
00:52:05.640
It's like, I don't want anything to do with you.
00:52:07.620
You're super rich and you like save the civilization and you got like a medal of honor.
00:52:12.440
But he, but the point is too, with, with him was like, he overcame that toxic feminism.
00:52:33.920
She's one of those people that has sown her way through like, she, she aged herself into
00:52:41.220
She aged from cute love interest to sinking New Zealand ships.
00:52:47.380
She could, she could have, she might play the captain in the movie they make out of it.
00:53:00.280
Wait, so we're not allowed to talk about, what are we allowed to talk about?
00:53:02.840
We could talk about, uh, what was the last thing that we, we, we haven't talked about
00:53:07.460
Uh, if we want to do that, we could also, yeah, this, this was actually really interesting.
00:53:12.780
This kind of stuff that culturally, how America has shifted.
00:53:15.920
I don't know if we can throw up that quick, uh, timeline graphic in the background here.
00:53:28.860
So this is, so if you watch it, Charlie here, it's, it's how couples meet.
00:53:35.040
And if you look, it's hard to read here, but the top it's friends and family.
00:53:42.540
Uh, and obviously no one online in ye olde sixties and seventies.
00:53:47.140
And I think what this ends up with like over 50% of people meeting on the internet.
00:53:53.240
So the, the, the, the synopsis is that, uh, like the top four ways I think it started
00:53:57.880
where like friend, family, friend, family was the number one predominant one, friends.
00:54:11.480
Even just, even in, it dropped way off in the seventies.
00:54:16.020
So after the sixties and seventies church dropped way off, it's almost, you can see a,
00:54:21.080
like how America's evolved based off of where we spend our time and friends is always going
00:54:27.440
to be there cause everyone has friends, whatever.
00:54:28.720
It's always going to be, not everyone has friends anymore.
00:54:35.360
Those polls where it's like 80, it's like 50% of Americans say they have no friends or
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The more money we've invested into college, the further college has dropped for relationships.
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We spend probably a thousand times more on colleges now than we did in the early 20th
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Uh, bar and restaurants kind of held, friends is held up there, but then like online has basically
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taken the place of all family, a big chunk of friends, all college, all school, all neighbors.
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Like nobody that basically what it's saying to me when I look at this is that people don't
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leave their house anymore or even start relationships, any kind of relationships, whether it's friendly
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relationships at school, at college with neighbors, uh, all of that and coworkers is jumped up.
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So it's like, if you don't meet someone online, the only, the only chance you have to meet them
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is like maybe a shot with friends and then at work.
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Well, I think what, what's actually interesting looking at this that I do wonder about is the
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decline in, you know, both school and coworkers is going to line up a lot with sort of the
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rise of, you know, like me too kind of sexual harassment angst.
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Like you can definitely like get in a lot more trouble for this than you used to.
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And, you know, I think, uh, there's a libertarian economist, uh, Brian Kaplan, who will talk
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Like when you think of, you know, who should you be pairing off with?
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Like you'd want people, you have things in common with, you have like shared interests
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or shared passions or just shared culture, shared nature, shared stuff in common.
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And one of those things would be people that you are coworkers with.
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And, you know, given that we have integrated workplaces now, it's actually kind of insane
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that it's like so frowned upon to basically like date coworkers now.
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And it used to be, if you look at into the nineties, like 15, 16% of people of, of couples
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met while they were at work and you spend a lot of time at work.
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It's kind of wacky to say that that's largely not acceptable.
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Like when you were in college is basically the single best time you have in your life
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where you are around a ton of people who are presumably not married, who are about your
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age, about your, you know, but marriage is not prioritized.
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And that's bad, but I'd say one, it's not prioritized, but two, there's a lot of things
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I think people are very much trained to be afraid of kind of any level of like romantic
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Like I think a big thing that drives online is not simply that it's easy.
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It's that it's like the only thing where you can communicate with someone and it's
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assumed off the bat that this is a romantic communication and people want that security
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And the problem is, is that that is very unromantic.
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It is super unromantic to have none of that ambiguity to it.
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I mean, then how many people are meeting online then?
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Now, some of those, you know, church declines, but I would say like, you know, there are religious
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There's a, you know, Catholic match, J date, um, Christian, all of those.
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Uh, I have a friend who met someone through like a, a Lutheran dating app and he had to like
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drive an entire state over cause he's in one of those bespoke types of Lutheranism that
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There is some element of that with online, but a lot of, all of the trends with online
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The other reason it's good to be dating people that you meet in real life is it's a much
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It's also, you don't have a big problem with online is you create this problem when you're
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competing with essentially everyone in the world, as opposed to the more rational, like
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you are interfacing with the handful of people, you know, in your town, in your workplace, in
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Once you're online, people get decision paralysis.
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This is bad with women because women can get, you can go on an app and you can get a match
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How do you ever remotely choose between all of those?
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Your temptation is always to like, maybe go after the most desirable one, but women tend
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There's a whole cascade of problems that come from everyone being online and it's going to
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