THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 6 — Oppenheimer v. Barbie, The Incredible Shrinking Ron DeSantis, Real-Life NPCs, The Michigan Maneuver
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On today's episode of Thought Criminals, Charlie and the gang break down the aftermath of Turning Point Action, the insanity of Jason Aldean's antifa insanity, the chaos of the Democratic National Convention, and the loss of Governor Ron De Santis.
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ladies and gentlemen we've got another episode of thought crime for you on today's episode charlie
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myself and the gang break down the aftermath of turning point action also this insanity the jason
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aldean antifa blm song getting canceled by cmt the michigan electors charged oppenheimer versus
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woke barbie and what is the npc tiktok trend stay tuned you need to hear this let's get into it
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from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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welcome to thought crimes everybody aptly named and mentioned by tucker carlson which is our first
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segment today andrew colvette joins us the ever popular blake neff i have people coming up to me
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all over the time sending me dating resumes for blake and jack posobic who is in bedminster new
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jersey there's a lot going on jack what are you doing in bedminster
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charlie i'm over here because we are just a few hours away from the historic presidential screening
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of the film a sound of freedom with president trump tim ballard eduardo verostigui and a number of
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people involved with the film here present on the bedminster property well very good we have
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we have a lot to go through today and to cover the first topic we were all at turning points action
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conference act con andrew i want you to kick it off you handle all the pr media do a great job you've
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been to dozens of these events i think this is event unlike any other certainly at its challenges
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in some ways but it's blessings for sure andrew act con your reaction winners losers people who ended up
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in the middle andrew colvette yeah no this was i think charlie you would agree of all the events that
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we've executed on this was probably right up there with the top two most challenging uh the other one
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one being 20 20 at the same venue at the same venue uh during covet and we reluctantly returned
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to this venue thinking that maybe that was just a covet era thing but listen uh there was some line
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issues that the secret service didn't help with but i really don't want to focus on any of that i mean
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it was there we did a great job i think dealing with it live in real time uh but i will tell you that the
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biggest winner uh is donald trump from at con there's no doubt but the second biggest winner
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is vivek vivek ramaswamy who won uh basically the second choice vote in the straw poll uh which i think
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surprised a lot of people that was a massive massive deal the electricity in the crowd i mean if you go
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through social media and you look at it there's there's no other event in the conservative landscape like
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the events that turning points able to pull off i mean the welcome for trump the welcome for vivek
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bongino bannon uh marjorie taylor green bobert gates holly jd vance senator cruz i mean there's
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really nothing like it the lineup is uh beyond the pale and then hey listen the the big loser here is
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governor ron de santis i'm a i'm a governor ron de santis fan i've been really open about that uh you
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know we are behind trump in 2024 but we certainly are not in the business of trashing uh governor
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ron de santis or getting in the mud some people are there's a whole thing going on on social media
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that you guys sure are very well aware of but listen we like we like the governor um we have a
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lot of respect for what he's done in florida but i will tell you a lot of people say that this this was
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a setup we were just trying to get governor ron de santis there so he would get food and and heckled
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that is a complete and utter lie um we we would have rolled out the red carpet for him i was
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personally involved in working with his team to get him in at that event in florida it didn't work out
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it looks like they're they're they're uh dealing with some other things in their campaign some
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financial things we can certainly talk about but but listen he would have performed i believe five
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x as well as he did had he just showed up the the rumor mill easily mill that was going on before
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the event really soured a lot of people on governor ron de santis they wanted him there and they would
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have rewarded him had he come and i think exhibit a is viveka ramaswamy he got a hero's welcome he was
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getting cheered in the after parties these videos were going viral and had santis come and owned the
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moment shook a lot of hands rented a room outside did a party whatever he wanted to do he would have
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owned the moment and it would have been a big win for him unfortunately he missed that opportunity
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so blake you have a tendency to be contrarian or see things other people don't see this is your
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second turning point event your first turning point action event blake you watched from afar what stood
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out to you what did you learn what surprised you blake or was it just kind of exactly as you would
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have expected blake now uh thanks charlie i think the overall tone was really similar to uh it was it was
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actually pretty similar to amfest which i was at last december and i think it was about what i expected
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uh you could see the vibe of uh it is still donald trump's republican party i mean we had all of the
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uh all of the candidates faces out on uh pasted to a wall in the big area and people could leave notes
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on them and you know trump is in the middle and all of the notes on his are you know overwhelmingly
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positive and then uh emanating out from that you have all the other candidates faces and there's fans
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for each of them but definitely i think more criticism than than praise and you know even with the
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vivaq you know vivaq did really well but the vivaq was really what he was is he was cementing himself
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as like a a bonus trump a trump alternative the guy that if trump you know somehow goes to jail
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or is incapacitated uh you know he could be the guy who steps up in his place or he could be a trump
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vice presidential pick and like that's very much what he's running for as opposed to like i should
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unseat trump or displace trump in any way and so then he comes out as this as the big you know winner
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besides trump himself but i think the funniest part of the aftermath for me uh and you know
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really a fitting symbolism is that ron de santis decides i'm not going to go to uh act con i'm
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going to do my own thing i'm going to go to iowa i'm going to play to the national media and part of
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the strategy was i'm going to do this big cnn interview on monday night and then he just ends
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up getting you know shoved out of the news cycle because the uh jack smith news with trump completely
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replaces him and makes that a bigger deal instead of uh whatever de santis was going to say and
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what did he say i don't even recall no and that i mean so we're kind of master clip watchers here
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meaning that when there's clips of anything that's interesting between kind of our collective group
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chats we kind of have a good pulse on it right if there's riots if there's something happening in
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ukraine if there's a wacky thing said by a candidate we kind of have our eyeballs on it there was only one
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clip that was shared and that was de santis on the woke military with jake tapper and that was it
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jack i think the most newsworthy item though out of the turning point action conference that
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i think is still making waves is we asked the question and i i was responsible for the wording
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of the question i made it x i made it intentionally explicit because we could have worded the question
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are you in favor of sending aid to ukraine are you in favor of helping ukraine against russia
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the way that we worded it and i want to make sure i get it right i believe is do you believe that us
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should be involved at all in the war in ukraine 95.8 percent of our attendees said no jack how should
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we think about this well charlie this is something that actually stood out to me a lot and i remember
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standing there in the room as you were reading out the numbers because what stood out to me so much
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look people thought that trump was going to come in first place and he did and that wasn't a shock
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but trump in a sense actually came in second place in the turning point straw poll for turning point
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action why do i say that because trump got 85 percent opposition to u.s involvement in ukraine
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actually pulled 10 points higher than support to trump and so that means that there may have been
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people that uh were were maybe giving their vote to vivek maybe some of the dissented supporters that
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this is actually something that aligns the base of the party and certainly you can look at turning
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point action as a barometer for the base in the united states and it's not just republican uh there's
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an independence there's even maybe even some democrats in there that there is actually stronger
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opposition to u.s involvement and i understand exactly why you worded this the question the way
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that you worded the question because you didn't say boots on the ground you didn't say money you didn't
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say financing you didn't say volunteering etc etc you said involvement because it becomes then
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a catch-all term and we're not going to break this out look richard barris can go to do that i'm sure
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he'll be able to come out with some very detailed responses but you weren't looking for that you were
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looking for the big overall most important number and i gotta i'll even ask you charlie were you surprised
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to see the number that high yeah and actually we did a similar one uh at amfest and last year
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where we asked the question of uh what matters more the u.s southern border or ukraine and i think the
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answer i mean it's such kind of a layup question it's not even fairly composed because of course most
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people are going to say the southern border i think 93 last year said southern border or 94 this beat
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that jack and i mean you can't get 95 of anybody in a room to agree on anything right let alone this
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and so jack but what frustrates me the most is 99 of republican politicians support what their voters
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well it's all right it's completely unsustainable and i think mike pence found that out on friday when
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he was on stage with tucker and then caught himself up in cross statements where tucker asked him
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basically a similar question the way you phrased it uh he didn't say the border but he talked about u.s
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cities the completely deplorable state of our cities the graffiti the violence spiraling out of control
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into the suburbs into the rural areas and and pence throws something out there where it sounded like
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he was saying that's not my concern now his campaign's trying to walk it out and say well no
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i was i wasn't concerned about the tanks and we could do both etc but he was caught in that trap
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because it's a trap of his own making and that's the point that tucker was making that's the point
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that you made later on twitter that so many of us later made on twitter that the broader truth here
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is that so many of these republican politicians are campaigning like it's the 1980s like we're going
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up against the soviet union like this is an existential crisis to the united states who controls
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the donbass basin of eastern ukraine and the crimea peninsula when you've got people actually
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here in the united states that i think and by the way this also came up in the echelon insights poll
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and uh we were going back and forth with uh with david sacks and the guys that run echelon
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because they pointed out that ukraine is actually pulling number 17 nationwide when it comes to
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priorities for 2024 number 17 i haven't gotten the full list yet i've been meaning to do so but i've
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been traveling as i know you have been and i really want to come find out all the 16 things that are ahead
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of us involvement in ukraine well uh i will say that's a little deceiving though and it's only
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deceiving because when i filled out my straw poll uh answer i ranked the war in ukraine as the top
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issue but it's not involvement the war in ukraine it's ending the war in ukraine and so i i think it's
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in some ways a deceiving question because i think jack you and i would agree that it's a top concern of
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whether or not we stay involved in it andrew also notable out of this the straw poll results was the
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lack of confidence in the rnc 77 of people said they don't plan to vote donate to the rnc
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andrew the rnc is now trying everything they can to try to get donald trump to debate in the upcoming
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uh debate in milwaukee wisconsin andrew audience was not very supportive of the rnc in any way
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no i mean actually one of the things that hasn't gotten a lot of pub charlie is one of the questions
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like are you excited about the upcoming debates this the the rnc primary debates used to be must
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watch absolute mandatory television time appointment viewing we didn't make a big deal about this but it
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was only like 58 percent of the audience was excited about them that's a that's barely a majority right now
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trump and listen the rnc got shellacked on are you going to donate to them it was nearly 80 i think
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it was 77 of people said they weren't going to donate um and i want to make one other one other
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comment uh about those those issues list because i think it goes straight back to this constant
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establishment assault against donald trump and that's the top issue the top issue was still the
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southern border and immigration if you remember when when trump came down the golden escalator
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he said listen they're sending rapists they're center but they're not you know they're not sending
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their best and i assume some are good people remember remember what a big deal that was how
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it pushed the overton window back before trump we weren't allowed to talk about illegal immigration
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and legal immigration and who's coming into our country these were third rail topics he changed
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that topic but guess that that debate in front the way it was framed but guess what all these years
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later it's still the most important topic the number one topic is still immigration it will
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always be a winning issue with the base with nationalist populist conservative uh voters um and
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it and it remains so today so they will continually try and turn this issue into such a demon like
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they'll demonize people that that advocate for border security and all these things it's still the top
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issue and trump knew it all the way back in 2015 and he's still leading on it right now so i i just
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wanted to call that out i think it's really interesting but yeah i mean to your earlier
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point the rnc is a big loser you know ronna mcdaniel it appears to me that she may have won the battle
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to remain uh chair of the rnc but she's losing the war uh the rnc is uh we're hearing rumors that they are
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massively uh bleeding capital that they don't have enough money and you know they've got a brand problem
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and unless they do something really drastic like hey a different chair or they start working working
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with groups like turning point action to do ballot harvesting or something uh i just i don't see them
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getting out of it which is a really big problem heading into 2024 there's no doubt about it
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you know that i am not a fan i don't think that's true music in fact i think i i think that uh country
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music is noise that happens to rhyme however a lot of people like country music i do like country music
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culture and i like people who like country music and so i have all those kind of different let's just
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say takes on that i've got a chance to meet a lot of country music artists and i think the world of
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many of them including jason aldean this is a fascinating story andrew you're kind of our resident
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country music admirer or fan so i'm going to kind of let you carry the water here what's going on with
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great american patriot good man very talented artist jason aldean
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well uh he's getting uh he's getting attacked by the likes of cheryl crow and others uh and then he
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had his music video try try that in a small town taken down by cmt it looks like and so uh you know
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it's a it's a it's not to me i listen to it i think most of our audience would listen to it and i think
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we have some clips from the from the uh music video and we'll find those in just a second but these are
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this is a really it's not shouldn't be controversial he's just saying like almost every other country
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music song says that hey small town values are the best and we don't let people get away with you know
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spitting the cops faces and trashing the liquor store in the small town uh try that in a small
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town it's a little aggressive maybe like you know you're gonna get your butt kicked if you uh try and
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mess with our town but like listen that's the way that's the way of the world that's what really
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happens you know and cheryl crowe is saying hey we don't like violence in small towns either it's
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like no that's not what he's saying he's saying if you want to sow discord so chaos in our town and
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you want to come and riot about some trumped up phony baloney uh uh racial trans whatever the thing is
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of the week in our town we're not going to let it uh happen so anyways i think a lot of people
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resonate with the lyrics it's now number one on the charts so conservatives are rallying behind it
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and let's just say this i talked with jason aldean actually backstage at uh am fest uh last year
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nicest guy nicest guy him and his wife are are the real deal yeah they're they're total blue chips in
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the conservative uh or the country music uh sort of ecosystem it doesn't get much bigger than them i
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think right now it's basically morgan wallen might have an edge on him and that's about it and by the
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way morgan wallen and jason aldean are really good friends and so i think what's going to be
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interesting to see here is what happens to cmt and what happens to these uh woke country artists
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that are getting behind some of this stuff like christina ballerini or whatever her name was
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where she uh at the cmt music awards where she performed with a bunch of drag uh drag queens on
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stage everybody you know the woke cmt awards so it's pretty appalling actually that that this seems
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to be gaining traction like he was calling for lynching or something i mean i don't when i listen to
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the song i don't hear it at all at all and he and he also uh jason aldean went on social media to say
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that in fact this these were all actual uh the crime footage that's in the video it's actual
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news reporting so he didn't didn't doctor anything he didn't take anything out of context it's just the
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scenes of you know the blm riots and the antifa stuff so i think it's much ado about nothing you know
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conservatives have to put up with uh liberals that we hate their music or we we hate we hate their
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ideas but we love their music and then you know they're having one freak out out of one conservative
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country music star well let's uh let's bring that up andrew let's bring up a 97 put it on put it on
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screen yeah i think i got this shared from eight different people over the last night if you can't
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read it it's uh conservatives listening to their favorite band that hates them which is if you're like
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me and listen to like deranged heavy metal music from the 80s a very common experience and then
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you know the poor poor liberals who have encountered one song from an artist they don't like and they
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have died a tragic death and then they will rise and they will try to burn down another city and
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probably a small town too now yeah exactly yeah beware if you're a small town um we do have clips from
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this uh i believe so let's uh let's play let's play a couple clips from the from the actual music video cut 73
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cuss out a cop spit in his face sculp on the flag and light it up
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yeah you think you're tough we'll try that in a small town see how far you make it down the road
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around here we take care of our own you cross that line it won't take long for you to find out i reckon you don't
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all right is it over is it over all right i'm gonna put back in my earphone now i'm i'm with charlie
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on the country music question it's not it's not for me i i'm right there with you blake but i have
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i have too much respect for jason aldean and his strong stances to give my editorial opinion jack
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how should we think about this jack i can't are you really a country music fan so i actually have a
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funny story about that as well because charlie i i think i'm i'm more in your camp where i'm i'm
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probably not going to be listening to country music if you give me the choice look i'm i'm from
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philadelphia area you know we grew up with rock we grew up with metal uh that kind of stuff i'm a primus
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guy sabaton smashing pumpkins um seen david bowie like five times that's country's not my thing but
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when tanya came to the united states uh from the soviet union for some reason i which i haven't
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quite gotten the story on this she fell in love with country music and so when we first started
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dating she would always say that if i wanted to go out with her i had to take her to country concerts
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so i was like well i decided to bite the bullet i said it's worth it and uh yeah i ended up seeing a
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bunch of actually a bunch of the same acts that later i would get to meet and see at america fest
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when tanya and i were just dating like a decade ago now you know that's actually pretty amazing jack
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because uh i've read the same thing in like rural africa like kenya northern kenya uh like tanzania
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nigeria tons of those places like old u.s country is really popular like you can find videos of them
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at these african weddings and they're all dancing very energetically to johnny cash uh willie nelson
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like older country classics like that and it really you know it speaks to them like it's a very similar
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lifestyle like a lot of them are ranchers in rural areas uh with kind of you know more old-fashioned
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values wait so i like johnny cash i like willie nelson oh yeah but then they get the stut later stuff
00:25:26.880
too they're they're also getting our modern country music as well and so you know it's like it is like
00:25:32.960
a global appeal and i kind of like that i like that in a lot of places the american culture that travels
00:25:38.720
best is like golden age like 80s reagan america like these people who love you know roller coasters
00:25:46.240
and pro wrestling and in a weird way i guess it's like you know it's like the ones who like old anime
00:25:50.800
shows and so yeah then they love old uh country music shows to country music acts too uh i'd rather
00:25:57.280
have that be traveling than whatever we're putting out today am i the only country music fan on this
00:26:02.800
panel right now you guys are a bunch of losers hopefully yeah i'm telling you i grew up i grew up
00:26:07.120
with yeah i grew up uh from a ranching family in northern nevada yeah you guys are you guys are all
00:26:14.400
losing out missing out i grew up in a ranching family from northern nevada and i mean i grew up with
00:26:19.200
george straight sitting on the my dad's you know three-quarter ton 76 chevy pickup truck sitting on
00:26:25.360
the bench seat uh driving down dirt roads like bailing hay so like you know you guys just don't
00:26:31.680
get it yet and you know that that's fine but here's one thing i don't get behind as a country uh country
00:26:38.560
fan uh let's go ahead and play cut uh 79 this is uh this is from april country singer kelsey ballerini
00:26:45.840
performs with drag race stars um and uh get some backlash for her wokeness 79
00:26:51.360
so apparently that's bad i'll admit that's bad but here's this is what's interesting so when uh we
00:27:19.360
were at young women's leadership summit there was a washington post reporter there and this is
00:27:23.920
going to start getting a lot more publicity there was a washington post reporter there that wants to
00:27:28.480
do a whole story on the dividing country music so nashville is a traditionally conservative town
00:27:34.800
but there is this growing divide between like the maren morris's and all of this and the and the
00:27:40.160
morgan wallens and the jason aldeens tim mcgras apparently exceptionally liberal so is his wife uh
00:27:46.880
faith hill and so there's this big rift erupting in a formerly very conservative town garth brooks
00:27:53.840
just took a bunch of heat for saying that we're going to serve bud light at his bar and you know
00:27:59.040
all these a-holes that are trying to turn you know politicize the trans issue or whatever i don't i
00:28:05.200
forget exactly what he said there's a massive divide happening but i i mean listen if i'm a country's
00:28:11.200
country country if i'm in the country music business i would just say watch yourself because
00:28:16.960
if you're going to go on the woke stuff if you're going to go on the the progressive agenda within
00:28:21.040
country music you are instantly parting ways with i would say 80 of your fan base so it's a losing
00:28:27.520
battle for them and i don't know why they're doing it maybe they think they're on some holy crusade
00:28:31.920
um shout out steve bannon but i just think i don't know why they were doing it as as strictly a business
00:28:43.760
it is uh it is the mind virus of the woke that is infecting all institutions and i didn't get a
00:28:49.440
chance to see that last uh last clip but boy that was hard to listen to okay let's uh i think we can
00:28:56.160
now proceed to the next topic that we have here yes the michigan electors but i want to make sure
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okay apparently tanya loves genu cell blake what's going on in michigan all right all right charlie so uh
00:30:52.160
the big news that hit this week honestly i'd say it's equally as big as the jack smith news you
00:30:57.840
could say about you know where he might charge trump the attorney general of michigan dana nestle
00:31:03.760
she has brought charges against 16 different i would say electors prospective electors whatever
00:31:10.000
you want to say 16 people in michigan who signed their names to a certification that they were valid
00:31:16.960
uh electoral college votes for donald trump in 2020 they're being hit with eight felonies apiece
00:31:22.960
if you take the maximum penalty for each of the felonies brought against them which
00:31:26.800
it's probably not going to happen but it's fun to to name it it's up to 85 years in prison because they
00:31:31.600
have all these uh fraud charges that are 14 years apiece maximum and it's all because they claim to be
00:31:38.480
valid electors in 2020 during the dispute over whether michigan whether michigan's election was fair
00:31:43.680
whether there was fraud whether the ballots were counted correctly and all of that and she's two
00:31:48.960
and a half years after the fact gone and charged all the people involved who are all in their one
00:31:54.480
or two are in their 50s but they're almost all in their 60s 70s or even their early 80s and is charging
00:32:00.080
them with this whole raft of fraud offenses to try to put them in prison for saying that they are valid
00:32:05.520
electors and you know the follow-on to this is the reason they were doing this is there's a widespread
00:32:12.320
impression that okay if there's an election dispute between different slates of electors
00:32:17.040
at a minimum both of those electoral slates need to be going through the process like they're valid
00:32:23.280
electors and under the constitution plus federal law it ordains that you know there's a set day in
00:32:29.520
december where the electoral college meets each of them assembles in the state capital of their state
00:32:34.880
casts their ballots it goes to congress and then the vice president counts them so the trump campaign
00:32:40.880
recruited all of these people in these contested states michigan was is the one here but it's
00:32:45.600
also pennsylvania wisconsin uh arizona and so on and had them you know sign sheets saying you know we are
00:32:53.360
we believe we won this state we are the valid electors these are our electoral votes and the plan
00:32:58.560
is if trump succeeds in his legal challenge then these electoral votes can be counted and they were doing
00:33:04.320
this because in 1960 there was an election between richard dixon and john f kennedy kennedy won that election but
00:33:10.880
uh history fans might know that it was a very close election and in hawaii nixon won the uh initial
00:33:18.480
day of count and his election his electors got certified the kennedy campaign disputed it they held a recount
00:33:25.360
and because the recount was still being litigated uh there were two slates of electors there was the official
00:33:30.720
nixon won and then kennedy's unofficial one and they still gathered they said they're the valid electors they signed
00:33:36.480
sheets of paper saying this and they submitted it and eventually they won their the recount favored
00:33:42.160
kennedy and those were the ones that were counted and a state judge said yeah we would have had to
00:33:46.240
throw this out but it was a good thing you guys met and cast your ballots so it's allowed to count
00:33:51.040
and now you know 60 years later dana nestle of michigan comes along and says this is a felony
00:33:58.800
so let me ask you a question uh blake do we know the trump campaign recruited them because that's not
00:34:06.640
always how slates of electors occur sometimes it's from the bottom up this matters a lot because of
00:34:12.560
the looming jack smith indictment donald trump might be indicted it's it's almost a certainty but blake do
00:34:17.520
we know how they were selected and does that matter uh they were there was a coordination with the trump
00:34:24.560
campaign in terms of uh recruiting i believe i i don't have it all exactly in front of me but i
00:34:30.160
believe they were recruited working with the trump campaign which was coordinating this they did not
00:34:35.520
do the exact same thing in each state uh because in some of them they were more legally gun shy so some of
00:34:42.240
them did sign statements saying expressly we're only the electors if the trump campaign succeeds with its
00:34:48.880
legal challenge some of them just did the same thing the kennedy campaign did and said we're the valid
00:34:53.840
electors we we claim to be the valid electors and you kind of just let the courts or the
00:34:57.520
political system sort it out uh but they did not you know they didn't charge trump under this what they
00:35:03.760
did charge them with is fraud for saying basically for signing a sheet of paper saying we're the valid
00:35:08.800
electors and they're like you know you're not the valid electors so that's fraud um it definitely does
00:35:14.960
fit into the broader offensive i don't think it's a coincidence that these charges are dropping two and a
00:35:20.480
half years later in the exact same week where jack smith might be bringing charges related to january
00:35:26.800
6th it'll be interesting to see whether any of this electoral vote stuff plays into any charges that
00:35:32.880
jack smith might bring or if it's more of like tainting the overall media miasma you know pushing
00:35:38.320
this whole narrative that trump was trying to overthrow our democracy because they know like you know even if
00:35:44.240
they sequester the jury or do all those procedures they do that are supposed to ensure a fair trial
00:35:49.120
that they know that if they can get a very strong media narrative of like trump tried to overthrow
00:35:54.080
democracy trump tried to do the very bad thing trump tried to do tried to do a coup d'etat oh my god
00:36:00.000
that this will be uh what they need to do to actually get him convicted and then keep him for running
00:36:06.000
for president which is of course the real point of this so let me ask andrew here andrew this is this is so
00:36:15.840
cruel i mean andrew i think you could i can't help but think of just kind of the sweet woman at that
00:36:22.560
or the you know men that are in their 70s or 80s that attend you know some of our rallies or events we
00:36:28.000
saw some that act con obviously we had mostly student audience don't you agree andrew that like this is
00:36:32.720
these are normal everyday people that they're trying to break they're trying to destroy them and put them
00:36:38.720
into a quasi gulag this is one of the most immoral things i've seen in quite some time andrew yeah i
00:36:46.640
mean it's so true i mean we we had everybody saw that story of the j6 granny just getting thrown into
00:36:52.080
into jail or prison i can't remember if she was it was jail or prison uh but you know this this does
00:36:58.080
kind of reek of that and to and to blake's earlier point i mean two and a half years later we we heard
00:37:04.160
some whispers that the democrat attorney general in arizona is coming after or at least knocking on
00:37:11.200
some doors there we've heard it in michigan and nevada earlier i think the key here is they have to
00:37:16.880
establish that this was centrally organized and this vast right-wing conspiracy to overthrow the
00:37:21.760
election or whatever i mean that's such garbage it's not even it's you know it's not it's laughable
00:37:27.840
what what this was was a backup plan all on 1960 exactly what blake pointed out it didn't
00:37:33.920
work the lawsuits failed so that these these uh alternate electors never you know really had any
00:37:40.640
relevance uh but what they're trying to show is that all don't believe your lying eyes don't believe
00:37:45.680
the clips of trump saying go home we have to remain peaceful the tweets on january 6th saying
00:37:50.720
hey you need to go home remain peaceful the speech preceding the march to the capitol where he said
00:37:57.600
peacefully and patriotically march to the capitol don't believe any of that trump was trying to
00:38:03.200
overthrow the government that day and guess what here's the evidence we've got these alternate
00:38:06.560
slate of electors that was all part of the plan okay they were part of the plan and in as much as
00:38:11.440
if the lawsuits worked and now you you know these people that pose no no threat to the republic
00:38:19.040
80 year old grannies in michigan and arizona nevada wherever else georgia they are now getting
00:38:25.920
charged two and a half years later in a i believe absolute coordination with the federal government with the
00:38:32.560
department of justice and jack smith uh simply to establish you know it's like who cares if the
00:38:38.080
innocents get thrown under the bus we've got a bigger goal here and that's taking out trump and removing
00:38:42.320
him from the 2024 ballot and and i just want to throw it over to to jack here um because jack jack had
00:38:48.880
a clip that went mega viral i saw it multiple places jack you uh you you are predicting some pretty horrible
00:38:56.560
stuff if they're able to successfully execute this the strategy that looks like it's coming straight
00:39:01.440
from merrick garland doj jack smith yeah andrew what's going on here is that i've been following
00:39:09.440
very closely the plan that norm eisen now you may remember norm eisen from the election integrity
00:39:15.680
partnership you remember him from the color revolutions that he was involved in with the state department
00:39:21.280
in eastern europe the same guy has been laying out since all the way back in last november working
00:39:28.800
with these left-wing academic legal journals stating essentially his plan is as thus they are going to
00:39:38.000
create a series of indictments a sweeping series of indictments of reporters people in trump's inner
00:39:46.080
circle the alternate electors which we know were being done and being looked at as a legal challenge
00:39:53.520
this was directly tied to the potential legal challenge on january 6th this also by the way i'm
00:40:01.840
just going to say it because you know i don't know why nobody else wants to admit this anymore
00:40:06.480
mike pence was not asked to overturn the election mike pence was asked to send back
00:40:15.200
the ballots to a specific set of states after a debate that was supposed to be held in the well
00:40:24.000
of the senate obviously we know history didn't follow that course but when mike pence says i was
00:40:30.080
asked to overturn that election that's a lie because that's not what he was asked it was asked to have
00:40:37.760
this debate on these legal challenges that people were playing out and the establishment has now come in
00:40:44.400
and decided to come to basically say we're going to criminalize your ability to debate we're going
00:40:50.800
to criminalize your ability to dissent to protest we're going to throw grandma in jail democrats will
00:40:56.640
do this republicans will get worried about you know the wording of a press release while democrats
00:41:02.000
are running around locking up 80 year olds in michigan paw paw michigan rose rook 81 years old of
00:41:09.200
paw paw paul michigan that's what democrats are willing to do and don't think for a second that
00:41:14.960
they wouldn't go romanoff family on every single one of us if they could certainly the four of us on
00:41:21.520
this podcast and so when i said their plan is going forward with norm eisen what do they want to do and
00:41:28.320
he said this publicly he wants to file charges against president trump for seditious conspiracy using all of
00:41:36.720
this together in unison as a seditious conspiracy against the united states it triggers the 14th
00:41:43.280
amendment the disqualification clause to the constitution and then try to strip trump from
00:41:49.680
the ballot in all 50 states and i talked about this publicly on the main stage at turning point
00:41:56.160
action there in west palm last week i said it's quite simply and i don't want this to happen i want to be
00:42:01.840
very clear i do not want this to happen but if you strip donald trump from the ballot in 50 states
00:42:08.400
or in any state this will blow this country apart at the seams
00:42:17.120
there they really are going to extra constitutional measures here now blake if you were to predict
00:42:22.720
the jack smith indictment on on this one do you think that alternate electors and then getting
00:42:30.320
convicted of that does that is that what the spirit of the 14th amendment would be legally do you think
00:42:35.760
that could potentially prevent donald trump from becoming president if he were to win
00:42:42.480
well the timing would be interesting because every other case against trump has uh you know been
00:42:48.000
elongated so it'll be you know very close with the election itself and anything jack smith brings like
00:42:53.440
he can uh if trump becomes president he can uh pardon himself it could be we're just in such uncharted
00:43:00.800
territory here and i think the fact they're willing to even attempt this shows that essentially anything
00:43:06.800
is on the table that if they're willing to try these totally novel charges to basically say that
00:43:11.520
president trump launched an insurrection against the government while head of the government that
00:43:17.360
they'd be willing to try a lot of stunts with the federal judiciary to try to rush this through and
00:43:22.800
then try to get a conviction and then try to disqualify him and the thing is is they only need
00:43:28.560
him disqualified for like a short window of time to basically wreck everything like we've seen this
00:43:33.680
play out before you might remember senator ted stevens from alaska where they sort of uh i want to say
00:43:40.640
like framed but they were they railroaded him really aggressively on various criminal charges uh just long
00:43:46.560
enough for him to lose a re-election race and get knocked out of office and then it all fell apart and it was it
00:43:52.560
turned out to all be a sham the entire time and i think they could easily do this with trump where
00:43:57.120
they get him on these insurrection charges and get him disqualified just long enough for you know then
00:44:02.560
some appeals court or the supreme court will say no this is a wild abuse of prosecutorial power and they
00:44:08.560
throw it out but too late the 2024 election's over and now biden or kamala or heaven knows who is now the
00:44:16.560
president of the united states after our 100 free and fair election in uh our democracy as they like
00:44:22.560
to call it i just want to see that it's a andrew i just want to i just want to stop and like talk
00:44:31.520
about what jack just said because i think it's it bears repeating i mean i mean this this really is
00:44:36.720
the question will they succeed in this i mean you could indict a ham sandwich right isn't that the the
00:44:42.080
the famous expression with a grand jury um he's gonna get indicted but he you know will this spark
00:44:50.240
i mean if you think january 6 was bad will this spark something similar or even worse if they're
00:44:56.480
able to successfully remove donald trump from the ballot i mean i don't see this ending well and i
00:45:02.560
think your warning jack is i'm not endorsing it i want everything to be peaceful i want us to all
00:45:08.240
remain calm and you know but but if you remove the leading opposition candidate from the ballot
00:45:14.320
via a technical maneuver and a legal maneuver this could be devastating i don't see how this ends in a
00:45:20.640
good place that that is exactly right okay i want to tell everybody about public square uh jack's
00:45:30.320
chiming in okay go ahead whoever was chiming in go ahead jack
00:45:36.240
oh no i just wanted to follow up that you know andrew that that is potentially what could be
00:45:43.040
the most dangerous outcome of all of this because look vivek talked about it on the debate stage
00:45:50.480
in iowa he talked about it in um in in west palm at at the turning point event that when you tell
00:45:58.640
people they're not allowed to dissent when you tell people they're not allowed to protest when you
00:46:03.520
tell people you're not allowed to listen then you tell people you're not even allowed to vote for your
00:46:09.200
preferred candidate this is what leads to people to logically conclude and i'm not saying again i don't
00:46:16.720
want this but you're telling people that the the ballot box is not the place to relieve the pressure
00:46:23.680
well what happens if people then start looking for other means to get involved in the political
00:46:35.680
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00:47:59.760
oppenheimer the barbie i couldn't care less so blake make me care ah that's where you go wrong
00:48:05.600
charlie this is very important we have two extremely uh major films coming out this week uh one of them
00:48:12.000
is very ominous very serious very dark uh very historical and important and the other is a
00:48:19.280
movie about robert oppenheimer designing the atomic bomb so of course we have uh oppenheimer it's about
00:48:25.520
it's the next uh chris nolan movie he's the guy who did the dark knight uh trilogy of batman films he
00:48:30.160
did interstellar he did um oh man i'm drawing a blank the movie where they go inside a dream inception he
00:48:36.800
did inception he did dunkirk and now he's got uh oppenheimer and then we also have barbie it stars uh
00:48:43.920
margot robbie which is why everyone is debating whether she's mid or not it has ryan gosling as uh
00:48:49.680
ken so it's you know it's very it's kind of bizarre that they actually decided to make this movie let
00:48:56.000
alone give it a huge budget and release it opposite a chris nolan movie but they did and it's as a result
00:49:01.280
there's been a lot of uh memetic energy oh did i get it wrong oh i got the name wrong ah this shows how
00:49:06.080
much i know that shows how much i know my movie stars uh i got it's carly bond i've been notified
00:49:11.760
that i just got the star wrong i don't care this shows how much i know hollywood people i don't see
00:49:16.080
a lot of movies no no no blake you're not oh did i get it wrong again gosh dang it you're just talking
00:49:21.920
about something completely unrelated you guys are killing no this is that you guys are killing me
00:49:27.760
you guys are distracting me with your lies you're distracting me with your lies when i am correct
00:49:32.560
anyway this shows how little i know about hollywood you're wrong today on the show yes this look
00:49:39.040
this is uh the point of this is is i don't see that many movies but i will see both oppenheimer
00:49:44.480
and barbie back to back when they come out probably unless barbie's really truly astonishingly off the
00:49:52.640
charts bad which it is it probably will be actually but assuming it is like tolerable enough that i can just
00:49:59.920
like buy a thing of milk duds and like endure it i will probably see it and then i will contrast it
00:50:04.480
with oppenheimer and they've had a lot of fun with this we showed uh the the joint uh poster for both
00:50:10.800
of them just a second ago uh it's rare that we've had these random summer blockbusters and i think
00:50:16.560
people are having a lot of fun that both of them are just they're new movies to some extent they're not
00:50:22.320
like the 80th incarnation of the marvel cinematic universe or some abominable reboot of twilight or
00:50:28.880
harry potter or whatever all right and so it's a lot of fun i want to see i actually haven't seen
00:50:33.760
this yet let's play cut 92 this is uh ryan gosling's song i'm just ken from barbie i just don't know who
00:50:41.440
i am without you you're 10. but it's barbie and ken there is no just ken doesn't seem to matter what i do
00:50:54.800
i'm always number two no one knows how hard i tried oh i i have feelings that i can't explain
00:51:14.080
that was the man who starred in the notebook and also the ides of march and like a million other
00:51:19.600
movies and now now he's ken oh well i mean that's this is a big terrible it's pretty cringy
00:51:27.920
was that was that a parody no no it wasn't i don't understand there's like a couple weeks
00:51:34.640
after late for pride month they were so close yeah you know it's fun it's easy to make fun of it but
00:51:40.320
it's like could a barbie movie be anything else like a live action barbie movie where we're just
00:51:45.200
going to take these big stars pay them a hundred million dollars shove them in out in the middle
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of july like a barbie movie's got to be really stupid and like ken is kind of stupid and kind of
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kind of gay and all of that wait speaking of gay speaking of gay jack pasobic uh no ken has always
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been gay ken has always been gay i'm glad you know that jack yeah jack jack you you made you
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made some headlines uh earlier this week uh you re you reacted to uh obama's uh letter with something
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pretty striking i believe oh my gosh what for when he was you mean for when he was coming out as gay
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yes no all i did no all i did was congratulate him i'm not the one who came out he was the one who
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came out so i i just wanted to congratulate him on that fair enough fair enough for people who don't
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know what we're talking about it was because he said librarians yeah we'll need a whole we'll need a
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whole show segment about you know what the what his biographer on earth where you know he wrote this
00:52:56.720
letter where obama obama wrote a letter to his girlfriend saying that he opted for heterosexuality
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because he preferred the it was more challenging than a gay relationship he considered gayness but
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opted for the greater challenge of a heterosexual relationship according to the guy who wrote a
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one thousand page biography of a young barack obama that is uh a letter that young obama wrote now we
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haven't seen the letter i don't know if anyone's seen the letter other than him but it does allegedly
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exist and it was put in a biography and the guy didn't get sued for it so interesting i hadn't heard
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that no one no one read the book it was a thousand page no one wanted to read a thousand pages about
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barack obama including me so i just skimmed summaries of it but a thousand pages oh i thought you said a
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thousand words no no a thousand pages it is the war and peace of of biographies of first black
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presidents jack are you chiming in here i bet barack obama has barbie dolls
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well i mean yeah yeah he probably does oh man this is getting off the rails okay let's play uh
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oppenheimer probably a couple he dresses like a ken doll now
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you know nolan this is a film i might actually see go ahead whoever's talking it's like echo
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location yeah chris nolan loves his like timeline bending movies like inception interstellar tenet
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so it could be that oppenheimer is going to have a plot twist where they're building the atomic bomb
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because oppenheimer through a time portal saw the barbie movie or at least the ken song that ryan
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gosling did and he decided he had to destroy the planet go ahead charlie
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i i i'm i'm good i think jack is talking so we'll hear it in about 35 seconds so i just have just
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just waiting it's gonna any second now it's like it's like i'm in a canyon and i'm throwing my voice
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and then i'm hearing it back on me and then it comes in listen this is what we do because we love
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the audience so much we we make this show happen even when jack is in new jersey might as well be
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like you know harris and uh charlie's uh in dc and doing undisclosed things at the moment but listen
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we got to get the thought crime in that's just the bottom line so just consider this all big
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common so wait wait so was oppenheimer gay as well well i'm not actually sure on that
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he was a communist does ben know like he possibly sold out america to the he well oppenheimer possibly
00:56:18.480
sold out america to the soviets i mean people he knew definitely leaked our nuclear secrets to the
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soviets whether you think oppenheimer did or not is like an unsettled question i think they lean
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towards him not doing it but yeah come on and then got a security clearance revoked for being i mean
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it'd be pretty gay if he did yeah and we've had these uh this great story where i'll have to
00:56:39.760
censor this a bit but supposedly after we dropped the atomic bomb oppenheimer you know had this moment
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of realization he's like oh no it turns out operation gigabomb 10 million was not a was not
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a tool of peace it was a tool of war and then he goes to president truman and sobs to him he's like we
00:56:57.600
we've we've known sin and then he leaves and supposedly truman turns to i can't remember who and
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is like never let that punk in here again i don't i hate that weepy bs he didn't drop the bomb i dropped
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the bomb that sort of preachy moralizing makes me sick and i guess we don't think of uh president
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truman as a as a hard guy but it turns out he was definitely harder than j robert oppenheimer was
00:57:26.320
that's funny blake because that's what charlie said the first time he met you uh in his office
00:57:30.080
um why don't we go to the next topic all right the next the next topic is very fitting for uh
00:57:43.600
the adventure we've been having here today it's uh i guess we'll call it the deep web reveal though
00:57:48.000
it's actually very shallow because it's a major news story right now but who cares uh so tick tock
00:57:53.440
as we all know needs to be destroyed uh its servers need to be blown up it's uh the people who work there
00:57:58.560
need to be shipped off to a distant facility where they're contained safe from the rest of humanity
00:58:03.360
because the trend on tick tock right now is npc videos uh now i don't know if any of you guys are
00:58:09.120
aware what npcs are because you have like lives and stuff but an npc is it's in a video game it means
00:58:16.160
non-player character and as you might expect in most in most video games they don't have non-player
00:58:21.200
characters do that much they kind of only say a handful of things and they have kind of exaggerated
00:58:26.640
character emotions you know like they'll just sort of you know take a pose like this
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and people on tick tock have decided to make entire videos behaving like this i think we have
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a we have a montage of them so uh let's play let's play number 95.
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that's a lot of wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hot dog party hot dog party hot dog party
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you have captured my heart hmm they smell so wonderful you have captured my heart oh spicy hot
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fire hot hot it's delicious and nutritious thanks for the corn it's delicious and nutritious
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oh my gosh we i'll let charlie react to that actually charlie you're like
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you're pure you have no idea what this is what's your reaction to it i'm the most out of touch of
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everyone um i i thought i knew what an npc was i thought an npc was someone that like you kill in
00:59:49.760
grand theft auto that's not part of the like main character that's like that's like an american npc
00:59:55.760
where we just you know you have like random yeah npcs who you run over with cars that's more
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so these people are more like japanese role-playing game npcs that you run into in like a final fantasy
01:00:07.600
game or something or a zelda game and they have their own exaggerated characteristics uh but i think
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the bigger question here charlie is having having watched that video was the declaration of independence
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no um but are you sure i don't understand what like in a way like that that video was the product of
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american dominance over the world that we defeated japan like you raise an interesting question
01:00:43.360
or you know it's it was caused by you know we the declaration of independence somehow led to this and
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so i think we have to accept that britain should have won the war of independence and prevented tick
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tock somehow it's worth trying at least i suppose cut 94 cut 94 is supposed to to help this this
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i think that i think that settles it in my favor
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well well well i can explain i i don't know if we've really explained exactly what it is that
01:01:36.640
we're playing at this point especially since we're playing some like uh shorter shorter clips of it
01:01:42.160
so charlie last week we went through when we were live together on same stage i'm not not with me
01:01:48.720
and bedminster etc that we talked about thin subs financial subs and financial submissives and pay
01:01:57.280
pigs so this is very close to only fan style content it's very similar to only fan style content only
01:02:07.840
it's it's taken out the specifically graphic parts of it and what they're doing is they're paying money
01:02:15.520
to these girls to get them to perform certain actions uh so in this case preset reactions to different
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what they're called gifts or prizes that are being sent now something that people need to understand
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is that to send them a gift or a prize it's the same not the same but it's same idea as sending a
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rumble rant uh or a super chat or something like that in on a live stream so there's money involved
01:02:43.760
and usually it's only you know it's like 10 coins and it's like it's like one penny per coin or something
01:02:49.440
some of these girls these ethots at this point are making thousands and thousands of dollars every
01:02:57.840
night while they're doing this and that reminds me of a great campaign that 4chan ran a couple years
01:03:05.360
ago called the thought audit and the thought audit is simply this
01:03:10.080
these thoughts charlie they're not reporting their earnings to the irs so what you've got to do
01:03:18.960
is reach out to them surreptitiously find out if they're making their returns and then you can go
01:03:24.800
to the irs and collect a bounty on the ethots we can actually make money by taking them in to the feds
01:03:33.360
so wait you're jack you're saying people need to go and expose thought crimes
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that's a thought crime see we do thought crimes that's a thought crime or here in jersey as we
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would say a thought crime oh dear charlie charlie do you get it okay so he's really saddened we've
01:04:02.400
ruined charlie's day i i'm you've lost me at npc after that i i just kind of zoned everything out so all
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right uh the the education of okay um yeah for better for worse so i probably shouldn't type in
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thought to google t-h-o-t no oh you'll be fine i learned my lesson with charlie i learned my
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thought is a woman who has many casual sexual encounters or relationships
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glory hole pleasure hole bonus hole what was it called again yeah bonus hole bonus i think it was
01:04:47.200
pleasure t-h-o-t dot holes which of course there's which of course stands for t-h-o-t
01:05:02.640
and then we have then we have the e-thought which is just that but electronic and you know
01:05:09.040
it goes from there charlie you'll understand one day
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okay any closing thoughts on this definitely unique episode of thought crimes andrew
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um i just enjoyed charlie continuously getting educated by uh jack and um blake i think it's
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uh edifying for the entire audience uh please don't ever google the things that we educate
01:05:33.600
charlie on it was bad for your your mental sanity and really your soul but that's okay um it's important
01:05:40.000
to understand where america is at and whether or not we should have lost the revolutionary war as blake
01:05:44.960
is suggesting might have been a solution all joking aside um i think listen here's the big takeaway from
01:05:52.720
this week that actcon was a massive success that uh trump and vivek won everything this week that
01:06:02.320
desantis has some pivoting to do that the doj is coming after us and that hollywood is still a deplorable
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terrible mess but i'm gonna go see oppenheimer that's my final thoughts
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i mean charlie all i gotta say is we got a stunt on these thoughts we got a stunt on these thoughts
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okay blake any final thoughts my final thought is you know
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i am i actually i'm just categorically correct the american revolution was a mistake it led to tick
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tock it's really that simple like if we was china if we would take if we would take an npc video back
01:06:50.240
and we would show it to george washington he would immediately have his army surrender he would go back
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to his farm in virginia he would write a letter to the king of england apologizing and then he would
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say that we need to not allow the steam engine to face any further development we've got to stop the
01:07:08.880
industrial revolution and its consequences in their tracks okay this was thought crimes uh not sure
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what kind of thought crime it is but it is what it is as they say if you are interested in dating blake
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neff we take resumes freedom at charlie kirk dot com every time every time
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freedom at charlie kirk dot com mission mary blake jack is in auckland new zealand that explains the delay
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it's unbelievable he's like in the next day already so god bless you guys until then keep on committing
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thought crimes whether it be the thought crimes or the thought crimes god bless and see you soon