Jack and Blake are joined by Matthew Martinez of the Turning Point Action Action campaign to discuss the New York City shooting of Michael Bloomberg and the possible cover-up by the NYPD. Plus, a list of other crimes of thought.
00:04:10.340They're talking about the bicycle he took, too.
00:04:11.960I'm surprised they wouldn't give out the name, then, so people could ask for information, potentially, if they know who they're looking for.
00:04:23.860But I guess, now that I think about it, they don't seem to do that in a lot of other cases.
00:04:28.320Well, one of the things was that apparently the guy was traveling with a fake ID.
00:04:34.040So it could be that the name they currently have is the fake name that he used to check into the hostel.
00:04:39.740And then if he was traveling on the bus, then potentially, yeah, he wouldn't need, you know, wouldn't really need to buy a ticket in name if you, you know, if you paid cash, if you did it in a smart way.
00:04:50.960So it's possible that they have a name, but it's just a fake name, and they're just kind of, you know, whittling down.
00:04:56.680I mean, either way, here's what I want to say.
00:06:36.480And we were still on the 4th, you know, at, like, 3 in the morning.
00:06:39.140I was walking by, and I watched – there was a fire truck there, and I watched John Podesta's speech, like, on this, like, little TV that was in the side of the fire truck.
00:06:48.520And sorry, yeah, no, I mean, it doesn't – it's not connected to what happened.
00:06:52.440It's just my memory of that sidewalk, that very same stretch of sidewalk is so vivid.
00:06:57.240And then to think that there was this murder that took place there was crazy.
00:07:03.420But what was the – Blake, there's another piece of it where we also apparently found out how it is that this guy slipped his mask.
00:07:11.880Oh, yeah, so just breaking now, we were seeing this, the – we have a photo of the shooter where his mask is down.
00:07:21.820And apparently the way they got this was a woman was flirting with him at the hostel that he stayed at.
00:08:18.960I don't know if we have photos of it, but the actual words were – it was delay, defend, and depose.
00:08:27.500I think depose is probably referring to, like, depositions that you would do in a legal case.
00:08:32.400And so that gets into the second part of this, which is so interesting, is he was – he's a health insurance CEO.
00:08:39.260Health insurance companies are not super popular in America because they're the ones you have to interact with and are very expensive health care system.
00:08:50.240They sometimes deny claims or contest claims.
00:08:52.520And, you know, the claim is especially that this company in particular allegedly is maybe more aggressive in contesting claims.
00:09:01.180And so what you have on the internet, if you check Twitter or if you check the liberal haven of blue sky, you have people just overtly celebrating this murder.
00:09:43.300I'm not saying it's not a true grievance.
00:09:44.940But apparently the writing – the words on the bullet casings were a direct reference to this book, you know, that was anti-insurance companies.
00:10:27.400You might have a good – you know, do – I feel like there's a lot of pro – there's a lot of sympathy towards, like, underdogs, however defined, even if they're criminals.
00:10:36.300Or just this sort of chaotic element among young people where they think America's a scam or America is rigged.
00:10:43.400And it makes them inclined to cheer for people who are violent criminals.
00:10:47.940It depends on the side of my generation, right, for these younger people.
00:10:52.780Amongst students, if you're attending all these woke colleges, they're probably going to be parading a little bit more about this shooting, unfortunately.
00:13:28.680And we talked exactly about the ideology of communists and how this stuff spreads.
00:13:34.580They take grievances, and then they decide that they can just kill, maim, steal anyone who is on the other side of the grievance, whether perceived or not.
00:13:51.560We've all had all sorts of issues with health insurance companies.
00:13:55.560But that doesn't mean you can just pick up a gun and go start murdering people on the street.
00:13:59.540And the problem is that when I see conservatives going in and saying, oh, yeah, you know, take it to the elites, you know, take it to the man, et cetera, guess what?
00:14:21.480They see you as standing in the way of their utopia.
00:14:23.540And ultimately, it's not about justice and social justice and equity and all these fancy window dressing words that they use to kind of, you know, church it up, to try to dress it up.
00:15:09.160And it actually doesn't surprise me at all.
00:15:11.600And Taylor Lorenz, by the way, is someone else who she posted a – I don't know what they call them on Blue Sky, but she posted a – made a post on Blue Sky where she was saying that, oh, and they wonder why we want to kill healthcare CEOs the day after, I guess the day of an assassination, cold blood like this.
00:15:31.600And so people saying, well, wait a minute, isn't this Miss, you know, COVIDian Taylor Lorenz, and she's so, so worried about COVID, and she spent months planning this, like, book launch so it would be COVID-friendly and COVID-safe.
00:15:46.460And they'll say, wait a minute, how could she be so worried about that and about getting one person sick, but she's totally cool with cold-blooded murder?
00:15:53.640Again, it's because they don't view you as human.
00:15:58.480They view you as something that is sub, something that is lesser, and they want you out of the way.
00:16:05.280And their reasons for it at that point actually don't matter because they will condone any level of violence in order to achieve their ends.
00:16:37.180I don't know the full details on it, but I guess Blue Cross was saying they were not going to pay for, like, the full cost of anesthesia in some surgeries.
00:16:46.060And they backtracked on this because there was a lot of backlash to it.
00:16:50.240All I would say is I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's, like, scumbag doctors out there who keep you under too long because then they can bilk, insure.
00:16:59.680There's a shocking amount of medical fraud in America.
00:17:02.860But whatever that case, even if they're really bad.
00:17:55.700So when you have that same mindset, that same campaign of attack the rich, eat the rich, despise those who make more, right, it's going to cause motivation.
00:18:07.880And this is what we're seeing in New York.
00:18:09.600This is what happened just a few days ago.
00:19:17.660It was about a family that essentially hires, a rich family that hires a working-class family to go and work for them.
00:19:25.440And the working-class family eventually just murders everyone in the rich family and ruins their lives.
00:19:31.600And it's – the rich family doesn't actually do anything wrong to the working-class family, but we're told that, like, the working-class family are the heroes because they rose up and killed the rich people who, like, hired them.
00:19:47.800And I remember sitting watching this movie getting all these accolades saying, what's going on?
00:19:51.820Why are we supposed to hate these people who – okay, yeah, sure, maybe they have this privileged life in terms of wealth and in terms of how well they've done for themselves in their lives, and yet they don't really get into how hard they worked or any of the sacrifices they had to make to be able to get to that level, et cetera.
00:20:12.620We're just told that you're supposed to hate them because they're rich, and therefore the working-class family is justified in killing the older – you know, the rich family because of the wealth disparity.
00:20:26.600And this won the Academy Award literally, like, five years ago, and I remember sitting there watching this going, why is nobody else talking about – it's – you're right, it's this eat the rich mentality, and yet it's totally been mainstreamed.
00:20:39.640Yeah, I mean, even – I'm looking at our comments on the stream, and, you know, we have purple daffodil saying it's like when people aren't sad when child murderers get murdered in prison.
00:20:51.900Well, okay, but a guy who runs an insurance company is not a child murderer.
00:20:59.140They are a person who runs a controversial business, and that may require a policy action.
00:21:05.940But what I've been warning – because I've talked to people relatively on our side who didn't care about this, were blasé about it, thought, oh, it seems like this guy deserves it.
00:21:15.020And all I have to say is the people who are defending this would defend any other, like, unfamous white guy CEO getting shot.
00:21:26.020They would find a reason to justify it.
00:21:36.200They don't hire enough – they would find – he outsources to this or that country that's bad.
00:21:41.160They would find a reason to hate this person because what this is really rooted in is a fundamental resentment.
00:21:49.280They are – they're basically happy that a white male CEO got shot, and they would find a reason to celebrate this because white male not famous CEO is a Kulak class to reference that.
00:22:05.280If you're familiar with it, the Kulaks were – we've talked about it on the show.
00:22:09.240They were the targets of the Bolsheviks.
00:22:10.940It was like the prosperous peasants of early Soviet Russia.
00:22:14.460And that's kind of what the Antifa wing of America wants to expropriate.
00:22:23.360And it's – they're not just focused on billionaires.
00:22:26.340They're very much focused on anyone who owns a company, is the head of a company, is conventionally successful in America, who doesn't – who isn't entirely subsumed into this left-wing apparatus.
00:24:23.240That's not going to save you when you get lined up in the trench with your family and you get the bullet, you get the muzzle of the gun pointed at the back of your head.
00:24:32.560Like, sorry, oh, well, you know, it's just another white CEO.
00:24:35.880No, like, you really need to stop, and you really need to wake up and grow up right now because this stuff is incredibly serious.
00:24:47.720Yeah, it's just – and another thing pointed out is just – someone says it's just surprising the guy didn't have security.
00:24:55.720And I would like to fight back against that too.
00:24:58.940I don't think we should consider it normal.
00:25:12.420But they said that he did actually have home security because I think there had been some threatening messages or something that had come out.
00:25:21.560And so he had home security, but for some reason they weren't with him at this hotel.
00:25:25.640Even then, like, I just – I don't want us to turn into South Africa where every person who has a net worth over a million dollars needs, like, a special, dedicated, full-time private security person.
00:25:40.280I don't think that's a good way to live.
00:25:41.740And as I've warned people, if that is the way of life people end up having to live in, that is what will make people pro-gun control.
00:25:47.500If they feel I need to be armed at all times because it is, like, constant threat of violence against me, that is what is going to make people say, screw it, police state, like, take away everyone's guns.
00:26:00.360Like, it's not good if tons of people are living in constant terror that they will be assassinated.
00:26:07.420That is a path of – a path of decline.
00:26:12.740I think we're all in agreement on this, but I would encourage everyone who's watching who disagrees to change their minds because we are correct.
00:26:25.960Oh, they're just going – yeah, I'm just – I like that we can respond to the comments today.
00:26:29.300You know, obviously a lot of people are –
00:26:31.560Yeah, we're live, by the way, so if you want to comment, please do.
00:26:35.100Just a lot of people are saying insurers ruin people's lives.
00:26:38.820What I will also say here – okay, I'm not – it feels awkward to do this, but within the grand scheme of the American healthcare system, insurers are the meat shield.
00:26:51.500They exist to take the hate of everyone for a system that is created by a lot of people.
00:27:10.440And if you completely got rid of the cut taken by insurance companies, took them out of the picture, and we just imagined, oh, there was a 0% profit on all health insurance, and that was what it was, we would still have the most expensive healthcare system in the world.
00:27:26.040And all those procedures that you want to get would still be monstrously expensive.
00:27:31.060And it's not that healthcare insurance companies are always great, because they do have this sinister incentive to try to deny care when they can.
00:27:39.600But the system itself is enormously messed up, and you would still be having to pay way too much for tons of procedures if the insurance companies didn't exist.
00:27:52.540And I think people are afraid to confront this, because they want to imagine that the American healthcare system is easy to fix.
00:28:00.260And unfortunately, it's such a calamity, that it is almost impossible to fix.
00:28:05.280It would be like popping the world's largest tumor or something.
00:28:13.440I guess I'll just say, look, you know, this came up when we were doing the Unhumans book so many times, and you see communists and far leftists using actual grievances over and over in order to fuel this type of revolutionary violence.
00:28:30.820And unfortunately, you get a lot of people who will start saying, oh, well, he deserved it, and, you know, don't worry that it's happening to that guy.
00:28:39.140And, you know, I see people in the chat right now saying, you know, it's, you know, it's their fault, you know, they chose to be victims.
00:28:46.100Someone is saying people are treated badly, and it shouldn't have happened, you know, he shouldn't have done that.
00:28:51.860Let's see, you know, the corruption, helplessness.
00:28:54.320Look, look, look, number one, number one, it is, it is, it is absolutely sinful.
00:28:59.620It is completely sinful, it is a direct violation of the Ten Commandments, and it's unquestionably, unquestionably breaking one of God's commandments to do this type of activity, as is all communism, by the way.
00:29:14.200Then, when you go beyond that, if you're condoning it, that means you're actually condoning the breaking of a commandment.
00:29:20.080So it's completely anti-Christian to support any of this type of activity.
00:29:24.020That's a huge, just basic, like, one-on-one level thing.
00:29:27.780Number two, though, for people to say, okay, this is legitimate grievance, it is.
00:29:32.460And that's why you have to, as a government, you have to come in and find ways to meet that grievance, find some kind of compromise to break, bring down whatever.
00:29:43.480Look, we didn't have a revolution in the United States when there were communist revolutions all over the world.
00:29:54.400They introduced the 40-hour work week.
00:29:56.100There were so many things, fringe benefits, which became benefits, of which, by the way, health insurance was one of the things that was interesting.
00:30:06.760I mean, Blake, from a historical perspective, you're talking about insurance companies.
00:30:10.240The idea that your job gave you insurance is actually, like, in the grand scheme of things, a fairly new type of just facet of having employment because this was never originally considered something, you know, a job was, here's your wage and have fun.
00:30:26.780You know, go to the hospital if there's some issue with you.
00:30:29.060So, you know, even that, the whole system of health insurance and tying of that to the employment system was something that was brought in as one of these compromises, historically speaking, you know, going back about 100 years ago or 80 years ago in, you know, the progressive era and then in the 1930s as well.
00:30:49.060And, again, I'm not defending any of it, obviously.
00:30:52.040Like, I stand for all sorts of government reform.
00:30:54.420Look what we just spent the entire last year doing, you know.
00:30:57.600This is the populist movement after all.
00:31:00.140But I'm saying, what I'm very, very emphatically saying is you cannot condone wanton leftist revolutionary violence, which is what it does seem like this was.
00:31:09.960Yeah, in the end, chaotic violence always favors the left.
00:31:17.840There is a reason the left has used it throughout its entire history.
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00:41:54.360Those riots, the Watts riots or the Newark riots where they had snipers on the roof shooting people at random.
00:42:01.320I mean, for people who think that it's okay to condone something like this, I'm just going to say, you know, again and again, this is, it leads to, again, we wrote a whole book about it.
00:42:28.200No, we're actually opposing murder and we're opposing chaos and we're opposing communism.
00:42:34.060It's possible to oppose greed without just murdering people wantonly in the streets, as it turns out.
00:42:41.060In fact, I don't recall any time where Jesus called for us to just go and rise up and start murdering people for being greedy.
00:42:50.860In fact, no, he requires us to go and try to pray for them, to try to work on them, to convert them, to get them to see the error of their ways.
00:43:00.140Yeah, maybe drive them out of the temple or something like that.
00:43:02.560But you'd be hard-pressed to find any example of Jesus Christ condoning murder anywhere in the New Testament.
00:43:10.020It is simply, again, it's just completely un-Christian.
00:43:13.700It is, in fact, the antithesis of Christianity.
00:55:36.180So here's, so the one interesting thing for me when it comes to the diehard debate is, so, you know, I was getting way down the weeds on this a couple years ago.
00:55:49.900And I was saying, look, it's not central to the plot.
00:55:52.520And it has all, you know, it's just right there.
00:55:54.420It just happens to take place around Christmas.
00:57:05.080I worry that after what we just said, it might be against the spirit of Christmas to watch and to watch a Christmas movie about that.
00:57:12.960Yeah, there's a bunch of these, like, I do watch, like, I watch the new crop of Christmas movies every year.
00:57:20.900And just because there are popular Christmas movies that come out that don't necessarily make them, as you say, canonical Christmas movies.
01:04:28.560Is it better when the woman learns to, like, go small town life, or when the guy is, like, hooked by a cute girl next door type in the small town?
01:05:12.020I think it's the ones that are sort of, you know, most media out there promotes the girl boss lifestyle and promotes the sex in the city lifestyle.
01:05:23.740And it's like the career woman, you've got to do this, and you've got to eschew childhood.
01:05:29.360And this is, by the way, where you get the Childless Cat Ladies from.
01:05:31.880And instead, you have these great Hallmark movies that come out every year that are like, hey, there's more to life than that.
01:05:40.420And there's good things that you're passing up on.
01:05:43.160And, you know, that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with that.
01:05:45.820But maybe, you know, maybe Christmas means just a little bit more.
01:05:51.440But does it maybe set up a misleading expectation where you could be a girl boss and then you just go on a vacation and, like, whoop, swept off your feet and you still get your, like, whirlwind romance?
01:06:01.880Whereas if it's the man in Business City having that happen, it is mostly women who watch these movies.
01:06:08.220Then you are communicating, really, like, this is actually what men find most desirable, like, these traits, like, of the girl next door, small town girl.
01:06:18.160You might be sending a more useful message to them, whereas if it's the, like, girl boss un-girl bossing, it might sort of fly over their head.
01:06:27.260And they'll just think, wow, I can hook this amazing small town guy after I've done my, like, career stint in the big city.
01:06:37.740That's like the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey thing, right?
01:06:40.200Like, Taylor Swift is like, oh, I dated all these guys and, you know, I put off marriage, but I still ended up with, you know, Super Bowl champion.
01:06:48.160Yeah, we have Thor, Thor Colonel says, girl boss returns to her hometown to take care of her sick father and falls in love and leaves her career behind is 75% of Hallmark movies.
01:07:02.060Admittedly, I don't watch these movies.
01:07:13.840By the way, they do have some that are actually kind of cool because they're like, you know, they go and film on location.
01:07:22.320So they'll go show you like, like, we just watched one.
01:07:24.780We actually literally, Tanya and I just watched one the other day where they were doing a river cruise down the Danube, which, Blake, you would like that.
01:07:33.920And they go and visit like different cities and castles along the Danube.
01:07:37.320The only issue is that so the guy, of course, is like, you know, secretly a prince, of course, but it's like a fake country.
01:07:44.360You know, that's sort of like a it's sort of like a stand in Poland and stopping.
01:08:37.080But it's like there's so much garbage out there anymore that like you just turn on a Hallmark movie and you're like, oh, yeah, this is what life used to be like.
01:08:47.260Hey, I'm I'm hitting my heart out, guys.
01:08:49.260So I do have to I do have to cut it short here.
01:08:52.680You guys can feel free to keep going, but I do have to bounce.
01:08:55.100No, I think we can just head it out, close it out now.