THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 69 — The Gulf of America？ Greenland Joining the USA？ DEI Firefighters？
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This week on THAKEVIN'S THING CUSSIONS, the boys discuss Manifest Destiny, a conspiracy theory about the government spying on its own citizens, and a trip to the Arctic Circle! Guests: Jack, Blake, and Tyler.
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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We have so much to cover, and we have the panel with us.
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I've got to tell you, I'm getting better at this.
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The reason I knew that Andrew wasn't on is I just got off the phone with him,
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Jack pitched to the – we're doing two Thought Crimes this week.
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On Monday, Jack said, hey, why don't we do a Thought Crime on Greenland?
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Jack, open us up with our Manifest Destiny topic.
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Yeah, so Charlie, yeah, we bring it up, and I was like, oh, you know – and it had been sort of kicking around.
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Keep in mind, so folks understand the timeline here, this was before President Trump's press conference.
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And so when he went, like, all in on it, and we're all sitting around going like, hey, you know, what topics do we want to get to?
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Because there's always a few things we talked to – we ended up talking about the gaycation instead on the last episode.
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And then I was like, oh, yeah, the whole American expansionism, Fortress America, the new theory, it's been – you know, President Trump's been talking about it.
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And Charlie's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't talk about it then.
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He's like, trust me, we'll talk about it later.
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It was so great because the time where – I'm a producer on Charlie's radio show,
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and I learned that Charlie was going to Greenland when he sent us the photo of him in Greenland.
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And I believe that's when Andrew learned about it.
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I believe that's when everyone learned about it.
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So Charlie just went and he just absconded on us, and then they were like, Andrew, you're hosting the show.
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Hey, to my credit, though, I was sworn to secrecy.
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You just – you know, it's – there's a lot going into this stuff,
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and you tell three people who then tell ten people,
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and the next thing you know, the New York Times is calling you.
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First of all, this is kind of an unfair question.
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Jack actually might have been to Greenland because of his time in the Navy.
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I've been to Alaska, and I've been all the way up in the north of Alaska,
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along the Arctic Circle, but no, I've not been to Greenland.
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So it is objectively one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.
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It reminds me of, like, deep interior Alaska, like untouched, wild,
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where you come in contact with God's creation with no filter,
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and then there's no connection to modernity from that point forward.
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I mean, there's polar bears that just walk through downtown Nook,
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hey, do you want to pop on Trump Force One and fly with me to Greenland?
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Yeah, so we took off at 2 a.m., local standard time in Palm Beach.
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I did one of the things I hate most, which is to fly a red-eye flight.
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Pretty easy to fly a red-eye flight on Trump Force One, might I add, though.
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So landed in Greenland as the sun was rising at 11 a.m. local time.
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We were greeted by hundreds of people in MAGA hats.
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We went to the top of this hill and took those pictures as the sun was rising.
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We had an amazing meal with a bunch of local Greenlanders.
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We went to the local cultural museum and ended the day at one of their top
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kind of bar, hangout, cheers, if you will, restaurants.
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Number one, the people of Greenland, they hate, hate the Danes.
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They say that Denmark has lied to them and has really abused them.
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Number two, there is so much untapped potential in Greenland.
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There was a young man that came up to me and he said, Charlie, I follow you on TikTok.
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He said, in my local village, we find these all the time.
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I mean, there is the nickel, the aluminum, the lithium, the rubies, the gold, the natural
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I mean, it is one of the most abundant natural resource banks or reservoirs, whatever I want
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And the final thing is this, is they love America.
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It is transcending borders, largely thanks to social media.
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And honored to have been included in something that very well might have made history.
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We came as tourists, come to just learn, report back to the people of America of what
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Well, you know, that's not the only, it's not the only nuke in, in Greenland, of course,
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something that, you know, a lot of people don't realize that during the Cold War, that's,
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this actually was the forward, one of the forward strategic bases for US WMDs regarding
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And really that in any type of strategic intercontinental ballistic missile exchange
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between the US and Russia or the US and China, it would most, most likely be over the top.
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We're so used to, and this is where like, I got, I totally went like full schizo Navy
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I was explaining, I'm like, we live on a globe.
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People need to stop thinking in two dimensions.
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Like, like all of this stuff goes over the top.
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It is so shorter to travel those distances, the maritime routes.
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This was the whole reason, by the way, for the endless search for the Northwest Passage,
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which potentially might be opening up due to advances in icebreaker technology, which
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of course the US is totally lagging behind China and Russia in, and new routes that may
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be opening up in Labrador Sea and others, which by the way, would take maritime shipping
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in a completely new direction where, guess what?
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The Suez Canal and the Houthis and the Straits of Malacca and all the nonsense might be completely
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Not to mention the baseball-sized rubies and all the other natural resources up there.
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So, I mean, it's, it's pretty clear that over the next century, the rates for the Arctic
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And it's just incredible that President Trump is, is focusing on it the way that he has.
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And of course, we, you know, the United States has maintained military presence there since,
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Like, so, obviously, as you mentioned, the big US base in far northern Greenland, we call
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it Thule Air Force Base, because that's like the old...
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The Biden administration renamed it to something stupid because they wanted to like, I think
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it was like the local indigenous people's name for the area, which, okay, they can call
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We call it Thule because Ultima Thule is, you know, a cool ancient Greek concept for the
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So, that's one of the many bases we should probably change the name back to, which this
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ties into, we were, when we were talking about topics, obviously we want to talk about
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Greenland, but President Trump, he's, he's sort of creating this conversation about all
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sorts of foreign policy stuff, both actual expansionism and like, I don't know, rhetorical
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So, he was saying we should, we should rename the Gulf of Mexico.
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I've known about that one for quite a while and I haven't leaked that one either.
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It turns out that one, I think one of the first, I was looking at this last year and
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my, one of the first posts I was able to find of that was from my brother, like all the way
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back in like April of 2024 and he was out on a wave runner and he was like, he was like
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just cruising the Gulf of America, it's new name come 2025.
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And I was like, did you, I was like, Kevin, did somebody like tip you off?
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He's like, no, I just, I just thought that it should be called.
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Well, and it makes perfect sense too, because I mean, realistically, most of the Gulf is
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completely dependent, it's, it's, it's either United States border or completely dependent
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Well, if, if we are going to name things because they're dependent on the U S we should rename
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This is why I, I went on a rampage talking about how Baja California needs to be 100%
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I, and everybody's up in arms cause they're like, well, we don't want to make it a state,
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but it's, you know, the Baja California has like literally outside of the border towns
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So in the Mexican war, we actually Polk wanted to take all of Baja California or like all of
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California cause there's Alto and Baja and then he wanted like Chihuahuas or he wanted
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like the States that are South of Arizona bordering us.
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And at the time those places were entirely empty.
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So they could have just been, you know, settled by Americans.
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And I guess it might've been a downer for Phoenix that whatever Phoenix is equivalent
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would probably be down in Chihuahua or something.
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This is my question for you though, that cause we talked about this prior to, I know we talked
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about this on a prior episode of talking about Arizona.
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And since you're Mr. Arizona, I got to ask, wasn't there, I'm not looking it up.
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I don't even know what's in front of me, but wasn't at the end, like you're talking about
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the Mexican war, U S Mexican war that Arizona was originally supposed to get coastline.
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It was supposed to connect all the way down there.
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And then for some reason we just, we just didn't take it.
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So the whole problem with like state department diplomats who just, as it were, cuck out, literally
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what happened is the diplomat we sent to negotiate in Mexico was opposed to the war and didn't
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So he just, he sided with the Mexicans and was like, I'm giving you a way better deal.
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It's the very end of Polk, uh, president Polk's term.
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So they minimize themselves, the U S border to where they wanted to put the train.
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So the first, so the first treaty at the end of Polk, they gave away Baja, California,
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but then even in the Gadsden purchase, all they cared about was just getting the train
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Cause when you think about it, zoom out at a big level, how much better would it be for
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Just if those territories were in an awesome country like America, instead of the most
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permanently dysfunctional country on earth, Mexico, which who's like sheer amount of mess
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that it is, is only made worse by the fact that they have the biggest advantage of country
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could possibly have, which is sharing a border with America.
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Well, so Blake, so, so here's, let's, let's zoom out a little bit because I've been getting
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They're saying, wait a minute, you guys were America first five minutes ago.
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And now all of a sudden you're talking about territorial acquisition and you're talking
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about Greenland and the Greenland is going to be part of America.
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But, but no, I wanted, obviously, but what I wanted Blake to do, if we should zoom out here
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for a second is none of us view any inherent contradictions between those.
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So what's the difference between, and this is really a question for Blake, I guess, what's
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the difference between, it's a thoughtful question, America first versus like neoconservatism?
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Well, I think actually a genuinely valid thing is, so first of all, neoconservatism always
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wants us to get involved in places that like truly are not our business and also have a
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lot of baggage that comes into play as soon as you decide to stick yourself in.
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Oh, it'll be easy to knock out Saddam and, you know, we'll just fix it.
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When Iraq is literally had, has had written history for 5,000 years at this point and all
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And infamously we went in and Bush didn't know there were Sunnis and Shias as separate
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Greenland, let's be real, Greenland has 50,000 people.
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It has fewer people, it has half the population of like Tempe.
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We literally like, if you wanted to, we could literally just like put every single person
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who lives in Greenland on like welfare for the rest of their lives and it would not be
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And we already do that with effectively Denmark by paying for their national defense.
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And so like it is a place that is hugely potentially useful to us, but it doesn't require sticking
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ourselves in something that actually has an ancient history and a lot of like grievance
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based, you know, that would have valid grievances if we were to administer it.
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It actually is a largely empty place that we could unlock the potential of.
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And Denmark doesn't want to unlock the potential of it.
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I'm going to make it super clear and kick back to Charlie because we've hijacked this away
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from Charlie for too long here, but we'll kick back to Charlie.
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We went into Iraq and Afghanistan, got nothing out of it.
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We're talking about, it's not even nearly the same thing.
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We're talking about going into and really via treaty.
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We have so many pressures that we can put on Mexico, for example, to change names of
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things and to get more land out of Baja, California, to get Greenland and, and all that, especially
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You guys were, I want to, I wanted to say, I want to rename the Gulf of California, the Gulf
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of Arizona, but that's a whole different thing.
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We should think about that because you know where California's name comes from?
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So it's literally like a Muslim name for California.
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The word admiral is also an Arabic word like admiral.
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But yeah, it goes through like, it was from, because remember prior to expanding to the United
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States, who was, who were, who was the Spanish empire mainly fighting?
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So, you know, the, the caliph was someone that was always their, their like enemy.
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So this was something they constantly were talking about.
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Well, and so, I mean, we should get something out of this, right?
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We should get, I mean, they're already dependent.
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Most of the people probably in Baja California want to be Americans.
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I mean, Tijuana, Mexicali are completely, they're, they're extensions of San Diego and
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extensions of, you know, just right over the border.
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Mexicali I think is right next to a Blythe that's over there.
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And so it's like, why don't we just, why don't we just have this and actually take monetary
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advantage of this and monetize the entire place?
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You know, we don't even have to make it a state.
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Or we could make it a state, an un-state California.
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There's, there's no way that you should be able to fly in a plane for that many hours
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Well, interestingly enough, Baja California is two states.
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So you have Baja California and then sewer Baja California, or Baja California sewer.
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So, I mean, yeah, I mean, that, that does open the door, I think, to break up California.
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So while we're talking about the various things, so Trump has talked about renaming the Gulf.
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He's talked about taking the Panama Canal zone back.
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And I do think, maybe this is, this is cocky of me.
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Wait, no, but you don't, that's not a cocky reason.
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The reason is because it's, it's the, it's, Charlie, it's the debt to earnings ratio is
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Like, you know, yeah, Alberta, natural resources, the Yukon, we can certainly make all of those
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conversations as well as defense of the Arctic, military, you know, military
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usage and, and all of those passage rights, which obviously, like, like Canada is like
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Like, we are going to use our military up there however we see fit.
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And, um, no, I can say that because I'm married to one.
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Um, and, uh, and, uh, and it, look, it's, it's basically like, yeah, we're going to get
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the resources and Pierre with, you know, eating his little apple, like, sure, fine.
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Like, you could be in charge now, but, um, you know, you're going to be in charge of
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Have you ever looked at a population density map of them?
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It's like all of the Canadians are hugging the U.S. border as closely as they possibly
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Like, there's massive swaths of just, the same as like Charlie was talking about in
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There's massive swaths of territory that are completely unused until they will be used
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That would, maybe that's the way you go about it.
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I was like, if we could take Yukon, take the Northwest Territory, take like Nunavut and
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then take Greenland and you could just like fold it into Alaska and make this like extremely
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sweeping epic, call it like Northlandia or something or cool, whatever you want.
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Think about how huge it would be and how cool it would be.
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And that, that's another thing where we misfired.
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After World War II, we owned all those islands in the Pacific.
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Like, we kicked out the Japanese, all the other colonial powers.
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Well, we had the Philippines after the Spanish-American.
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Whether we give away the Philippines or not, that's its own dramatic thing.
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But all those Pacific islands, we should have, like, I think even now all their citizens
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can just come to America and be citizens if they want.
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They're basically fake countries in a lot of ways.
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The main purpose of a lot of those islands is so that we have other countries to vote
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with us on Taiwan stuff and on Israel stuff in the U.N.
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But other than that, like, we should have really just kept them, merge it with Guam,
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merge it with the Marianas, and have like a Pacifica state.
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How cool would it be if the U.S. had Pacifica state just spanning the entire Pacific Ocean
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But remember, when you give an area statehood, they get two senators and a governor.
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So, no, I'm not interested in giving all of these places statehood.
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And keep in mind, like, you know, Charlie and Tyler, you know,
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who's the next Greenland Murkowski going to be?
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Just because it's a, you know, it's a hardy area, which I think we all realize would probably...
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We all sort of get, would generally be conservative.
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I don't know that necessarily means that we get the best representatives out there.
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The people there, it's overwhelmingly Inuit, Eskimo, right?
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So, it's 85%, 85% Inuit and then 15% Dane of just people that have come over
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So, we went to the Cultural Museum, which I wish I could have spent more time.
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And they have these drawings of the people of Greenland that were there, like, 800 years ago.
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And it makes you think, like, these people survived a negative 10-degree weather
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with insanely harsh winds and a very unforgiving climate, like, 800 years ago.
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And I know that's not the only culture like that.
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I got a little insight into how tough the people of Greenland actually are.
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However, whale, someone says, what does whale taste like?
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So Don Jr., who's an unbelievable outdoorsman, like, legit.
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He's, he said, this whale in Greenland was, yeah, he said the whale that he had in Greenland
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was way better than the whale that he had in Alaska.
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So for whatever that's worth, the whale in Greenland is quite good.
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So we tried all the, all the local fare and was really kind of impressed by the, the people
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I will also say, though, I mean, this is just a side note.
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You think about how far does social media reach?
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There were young people coming up, hundreds of them, asking for selfies from Don and I
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I mean, it's a, it is a worldwide phenomenon, guys.
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So let me ask a question, Blake, Jack, and Tyler.
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Guys, knowing what you know, and I'm going to kind of just listen because I have my own
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thoughts, obviously, being on the ground and listening to things.
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How do you think Donald Trump should go about brokering this deal?
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So I threw out on social media yesterday, just sort of an opening bid.
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We all know that President Trump has stated pretty forcefully, even in his first term,
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that he, one of the things that he seeks to do with the NATO alliance, which were, you
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know, Blake just mentioned that we basically put the bill for all of Europe's defense.
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And in return, President Trump has been really pounding the table.
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And of course, there's that famous picture of him with Angela Merkel and the great Shinzo
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Abe, the late great Shinzo Abe, you know, crossing his arms and staring at her because
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he's demanding that the NATO member states up their, up their GDP expenditure on defense
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And I say, well, just give, just give Denmark a break on that for, I don't know, a period
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of five years, five to 10 years, call it whatever it is.
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All that savings goes right back into your economy.
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And then all, and in return, they get the full defensive weight of NATO and the U.S.
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The other idea I've seen is we put tariffs on, on Ozempic.
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I believe Ozempic, I, one of the, it's, um, what's the, Nova Nordisk?
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Oh, it's, it's, it's Nova Nordisk, I think is what it is, right?
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It is a, it is a Danish, I am a hundred percent.
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Denmark ain't a multi-trillion dollar, like, economy for the most part.
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So, it's just like, oh, this little Danish, uh, pharmaceutical company.
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Wait, so let me, let me, let me get, let me get this straight.
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We, we, we have the greatest fighting force in the history of the planet.
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Nuclear weapons, F-35s, drones, Marines, Navy SEALs.
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They also have, interestingly enough too, uh, I think, I think you pronounce it, Maersk,
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Yeah, but, I mean, uh, the tariff problem for them is much bigger than just Denmark.
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We wouldn't want to put tariffs on shipping because that would, that would directly, uh.
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No, I'm just saying tariffs in general probably impact their business worldwide more than anybody
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So, you take off the table, you start talking about tariffs, you start talking about taking
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off the table or adding tariffs to, uh, Ozempic, like you mentioned, you know, maybe
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I just looked up the biggest brands out of, out of Denmark and, uh, uh, yeah, Maersk
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So, Pandora jewelry, that's, that's based out of Denmark.
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It's gonna hurt, hurt them a lot more than it hurts us.
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If we, if we invaded them, they might like put Legos like on the carpet.
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And if we, our guys stepped on them, that would really hurt.
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That's exactly how, that's exactly what happens at my house pretty much every single morning.
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And Nova Nordisk though has a $372 billion market cap.
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I thought it was more than, I think that if it gets, oh, that's right.
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If it gets on the Medicaid schedule here in America, it will be a trillion dollar company.
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So, by the way, what a great negotiation tool that we have.
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Jack, for children, look up Ozambic Medicaid Congress.
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It's like, oh, it'd be a shame if Ozambic was banned in America.
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It'd be a shame if Ozambic wasn't allowed to be sold here.
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Or do you want to be able to sell your weight loss drug in the United States of America?
00:27:14.540
And when you think about it, it could be a great ad for Ozambic.
00:27:19.280
If Greenland loses all of that heavy territory, like Greenland loses 80% of its body mass.
00:27:32.280
So some people, President Trump has not dismissed the possibility of using military force.
00:27:39.020
Blake, what is your thoughts on Donald Trump just saying, take it?
00:27:45.860
You're doing this to make me the bad guy, Charlie.
00:27:54.500
I think that it comes with huge risks to NATO country.
00:28:02.880
So, genuinely, I think it would be good for us to have Greenland for all the reasons
00:28:08.160
I do think you need to convince the Danes to play ball.
00:28:12.880
I don't think it's a good idea for the U.S. to, like, essentially just bully countries
00:28:19.800
Because, for one, think about our overall geopolitical situation of us as a global power.
00:28:27.420
To the extent that we get people to like us rather than China, I think a lot of it is
00:28:32.600
that we are, to some extent, like, at least a little bit nicer than China.
00:28:41.920
And I think the Panama Canal is a good example where we gave, like, we built it.
00:28:46.700
We gave it to Panama for free under an understanding, like, you wouldn't let the Chinese get this
00:28:55.460
Like, I would be willing to play some pretty decent hardball there on a canal we built.
00:28:59.340
But, like, Greenland, we have never actually owned Greenland.
00:29:02.560
We occupied it for a bit during World War II, but we did give it back.
00:29:06.540
It would probably, essentially, I think it would greatly damage our relationship with a lot
00:29:11.840
of countries if we invaded and took a country's territory.
00:29:17.320
Greenland was right of conquest because Denmark, in, what, 1940-whatever, was occupied by the
00:29:24.240
And the deposed-in-exile prime minister of Greenland then signed the mutual defense treaty of Greenland with us so that the Nazis wouldn't be able to use Greenland as a launching platform for the United States or anything like that.
00:29:46.200
Neither would Denmark exist at this point without the United States of America.
00:29:52.220
No, of course, look, for the Panama Canal, there's no question.
00:29:56.240
We're going to park an aircraft carrier on one end and an aircraft carrier on the other end,
00:30:03.460
But for Greenland, I would argue that the United States has been providing military defense to Greenland for far longer than a lot of people are pointing out and in a way that does actually grant us certain rights to it.
00:30:16.420
So, what I will say is, let's say Denmark just says they don't want to play ball.
00:30:22.500
I think the way you go about it, rather than just kick in the door, which I think is a can of worms, at least, that would probably not be great.
00:30:31.020
You could just say, we're going to support, like, we back, you know, Dana, or not Dana, Greenland separatists, because as Charlie says, you've met a lot of people there who don't like the Danes and wish that they could go their own way.
00:30:42.800
So, you just say, we support Greenland's right to self-determination, and if Greenland were to become independent or break away,
00:30:51.320
we would have an offer for them to join the United States on these generous terms, and we would be happy to welcome them in as a U.S. territory,
00:31:00.480
and if you do that, we'll give you these rights to economic development, we'll give you this, this, this, this, this, and if you wanted to, you know, become a state,
00:31:07.900
maybe we could even say, if you want to become a state, we'll let you become a state.
00:31:11.420
So, I think that's how you go about it, and then you basically, you create the impetus for Greenland to decide that it wants to do this,
00:31:19.140
and if the Greenland people are saying, 60% of them, 75% of them say, we'd rather go with America,
00:31:25.840
the Danes are, they're ultimately Scandinavian. Scandinavian people kind of like classic, you know, democracy,
00:31:32.300
that's sort of, they're very collectivist. I think it would be very difficult for Denmark to just maintain that they won't let Greenland do it
00:31:39.080
if a very large number of them want to do it. I think that's how you go about it, rather than just say, we're taking this,
00:31:45.980
and if you don't like it, we'll shoot you. I think that would be a bad way to behave with a country that,
00:31:52.260
let's be real, I don't think Denmark has any big problems with us. They aren't the Swedes.
00:31:58.300
They don't, they're even, they're like the one European country that has real immigration laws.
00:32:01.860
We should, we should encourage them in that venture.
00:32:04.200
Yeah, they've actually been, isn't Denmark one of the only countries that since 2015,
00:32:09.180
that's actually been participating in some re-migration?
00:32:12.500
Yeah, they, they encourage, like one, they're very clear that people who come here,
00:32:17.040
we actually have to integrate. They've passed laws to, like, break up so that you don't have
00:32:22.500
migrant ghettos, for example. Like, you can't have all the people living in one neighborhood
00:32:26.820
where they don't assimilate to Danish norms. And they're paying people to go back.
00:32:31.920
They've been aggressive. And what's really interesting is, they've done that
00:32:34.880
without having a right-wing government like you'd have to have. Like, the Danes are the one place
00:32:40.340
where, we've said this before, if the left figures this out, we could be in trouble.
00:32:43.900
They're the one place where the left figured out, if we just become anti-immigration,
00:32:47.860
we'll win lots of elections. And so, it's the left-wing party in Denmark just said,
00:32:51.940
okay, we're going to cut immigration, and they win their elections, and they do just fine.
00:32:57.380
And Denmark will continue to exist as a country as a result.
00:33:09.020
Let's now move to the DEI. Now, let's go to DEI fire. Now, in some ways,
00:33:13.460
the Charlie Kirk Show today was a little bit thought-crimy. I mean, here's how you know that
00:33:18.220
you are over the target. When you say stuff on the Charlie Kirk Show that otherwise should be said
00:33:23.040
on thought-crime, and not one Media Matters article is written up. Blake sent me one of the most...
00:33:28.820
I cannot believe this has not gotten more coverage for the record. I don't know why this
00:33:32.380
particular thing is so bothering to me. Bothersome. Los Angeles, who's burning right now,
00:33:38.220
dear friend of mine, Stacey, friend of ours, her house burned down. It's awful. We know so many
00:33:42.020
people have. Los Angeles has three police chiefs that are all named Kristen, and they're all lesbian.
00:33:50.120
And then there's a fourth who's also lesbian, but she's not named Kristen.
00:33:55.300
Whatever. Sorry. Fire chief. Blake, is this true? Is this some sort of a troll?
00:34:00.020
Yeah. So, it literally is. Let me bring it up here, because we have to get the thread here.
00:34:08.340
Let's see. All right. Yeah. So, what it is, is basically to rise high in the LA fire department,
00:34:15.400
you basically have to be a lesbian named some variant of Kristen. So, first of all, we have
00:34:19.900
Kristen Crowley. So, she is the first LGBTQ fire chief of definitely LA, maybe of any large American
00:34:28.760
city. I don't know. I don't track that. And she says one of her top missions is to create systemic
00:34:34.780
equity and inclusion across the LAFD. She created a new DEI bureau within the LA fire department. So,
00:34:41.420
great, great use of money there. There was a great, a great meme I saw the other day. It's the,
00:34:46.620
have you guys seen that meme? That's like the guy sitting, standing in the corner at the party.
00:34:50.200
That's like, they don't know that I'm, and she's like, they don't know that I'm a lesbian. But then
00:34:54.640
the room is on fire. And I was like, ah, I'm on fire. Ah, that's one. Second, we have Christine
00:35:01.760
Larson. So, she's the first equity bureau chief of the, okay, that's, whoops, I read them out of
00:35:07.540
order. That's Christina Kepner, who's on screen. She's just a assistant chief. So,
00:35:11.140
she's, she's lower tier, but she is named Christina, which is important. What's going on
00:35:15.400
with her hair? What's going on with her hair is she like buzzed it. What's going on with her eye
00:35:20.800
is she was involved in a domestic violence, uh, dispute. She apparently made murderous threats
00:35:26.000
towards her spouse or partner or whatever, alleged, alleged, I should say. So, there was a domestic
00:35:31.980
violence spat between this beautiful, uh, diverse person at the LAFD. She has a certificate. I'm not
00:35:38.880
making this up. I checked the LinkedIn. She has a certificate from the Harvard Kennedy School
00:35:43.140
for managing diverse organizations, which is a certificate you can get.
00:35:48.700
Very useful. And then, now, the third one, we have Christine Larson. She is the first equity,
00:35:54.220
lesbian equity bureau chief. She is the co-founder of the group Equity on Fire, which is a great
00:36:00.640
organization name. That originality to come up with that is probably why she's paid $400,000 a year.
00:36:07.080
And she basically, like, would get in the news saying, like, there is a big racism and sexism problem
00:36:12.360
at the Los Angeles Fire Department. So, they were like, okay, we'll make you the equity bureau chief,
00:36:18.620
get paid $400,000. And I think we have this clip, uh, Angela, what's the number on it where she's
00:36:24.080
saying, where she's talking about rescuing someone from a fire? She has this great take on, oh yeah,
00:36:28.980
people say women aren't as strong. They're not as capable of, say, fighting the fire or pulling a
00:36:33.620
person out of the fire. Uh, what's the number on that clip? 141. Let's play it.
00:36:40.340
You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical
00:36:45.960
call or a fire call that looks like you. It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that
00:36:51.060
somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't
00:36:55.860
carry my husband out of a fire, which my response is he got himself in the wrong place. If I have to
00:37:00.720
carry him out of a fire. That's exactly what I want to hear from a firefighter. It reminds me of in
00:37:07.440
Houston. Help me, help me. Wait, you got yourself in the wrong place. Yeah. Yeah. You see her
00:37:12.720
calling, ah, I'm on fire. Ain't nobody. Are they like trolling victims? Yeah. Well,
00:37:20.160
will you type into Google right now? D E I F the first things that come up D I D I fire chief
00:37:26.720
D I fire D I fire Los Angeles D I fire department D I fire, California D I mean, this is not just
00:37:37.240
trending. This is like taking over everything D I related is now if you just type in D I now
00:37:44.120
D I fire D I chief. I mean, this is everywhere. It's, it's, it's truly mind boggling to like see
00:37:52.620
this happen. Cause you, I feel like a lot of us warned about this for ages, like how this goes.
00:37:59.180
It's not, you just like, you know, hit a light switch and everything's bad. What's so bad about
00:38:03.200
D E I is it's this corrosive rot. That's super easy to just miss as long as nothing really bad
00:38:09.740
is happening. And you know, most of the time we've gotten better at fighting fires. Buildings are more
00:38:14.680
fireproof. Uh, our techniques have improved and there's just not always a really bad fire. So you can go
00:38:19.820
years where you have a fake fire department and you're not going to notice a big problem.
00:38:24.160
And it only comes out now when finally there is the sort of crisis you only get every, you know,
00:38:29.740
five years, 10 years, 50 years hitting Los Angeles. And you need to have those strong institutions in
00:38:36.100
place. And instead you have a fake fire department, you have a fire department that exists to give
00:38:41.480
astonishingly well-paid jobs and astonishingly well-funded pensions to these like freaks who can't do the
00:38:49.700
job and get angry. If you tell them to do the job and give you a political lecture and they just
00:38:54.560
exist to soak up public money in this sick way. And we're seeing this. And as I was saying, it's,
00:39:00.720
it's the rot that happens in every little spot. So I've talked to people who say what, what caused
00:39:06.200
this to happen? And it's not that there is one cause it's for decades, Los Angeles has had a set
00:39:11.660
of values that made it. So everything there is a little bit worse. So, you know, go throughout the
00:39:15.880
process. This is probably a fire started by arson. Well, a lot of fires are started by homeless bums,
00:39:21.460
either because they're crazy or because they have illegal campsites. And a lot are also started by
00:39:25.780
illegal immigrants, a surprising number of fires, illegal immigrants just start them. And so what
00:39:31.500
place is the most pro bomb and pro, uh, illegal immigrant in the country, California. So that's,
00:39:38.300
you're more likely to have randos start fires there. Then you have, okay, how well are you able to
00:39:42.900
respond? Like how good are people at spotting the fire, calling it in? How quickly does the fire
00:39:47.460
department respond? That's where the rot in the actual fire department comes in. They're just not
00:39:51.300
as on the ball at responding to the fire, containing the fire. And then you have, well, okay, what do we
00:39:57.440
fight it with? Well, we need water. And well, we have assets that they sent to Ukraine. We have
00:40:02.260
budget cuts that they reallocated towards DEI, both in terms of they cut the LAFD's budget and they
00:40:09.120
moved budget within the LAFD to their new DEI bureau. And then they also just made it illegal to collect
00:40:15.020
water in California. They have literally disassembled dams that existed to make reservoirs. They have
00:40:22.640
let rainwater wash out into the Pacific ocean uselessly because they say it helps like a Delta
00:40:30.600
smelt or whatever the heck the names of these fish are. It's every step of the way, California has done
00:40:36.600
a thing that makes them one or 2% more likely for this to happen. And now as a result, we're just
00:40:42.080
going to burn down the nicest neighborhood in Los Angeles. Good job, everyone.
00:40:49.820
Do you think that people are going to move out? Jack, go ahead.
00:40:55.440
Oh, no, I was just going to bring up that all of this just reminds me and we on on human events
00:41:01.040
today, we were getting into the movie Chinatown, which I don't know if people know about, but it's
00:41:06.460
this old Jack Nicholson movie, just incredible film. And the whole thing is about the Los Angeles,
00:41:13.020
California. It's a great film. It's a great film. And we've, we've got this clip on it where
00:41:18.380
basically it's talking about how the water supply is used by the elites in California. And of course,
00:41:25.820
you know, and highly stylized in this murder plot in order to, in order to increase, well,
00:41:31.980
decrease property values so that the developers can come in and purchase all of it and then
00:41:37.520
increase it when they put the water to it. So let's play a clip one for two.
00:41:42.400
Going to be a lot of irate citizens when they find out that they're paying for water that
00:41:46.700
they're not going to get. Oh, that's all taken care of. See, Mr. Gibbs, either you bring the water
00:41:52.640
L.A. or you bring L.A. to the water. Go home, Jake. I'm doing you a favor.
00:42:08.940
So good. Forget it, Jack. It's DEI town. Ah, and for, uh, for longstanding, uh, thought crime
00:42:20.620
viewers, you might also recognize that the villain there is played by John Huston, who he himself is
00:42:29.900
the father of Danny Huston, who also plays the developer, who is the main antagonist of
00:42:35.500
Yellowstone. So you see it, it all comes full circle, folks. The Yellowstoning, the Hicklibs,
00:42:41.760
the California water wars, it's all indelibly tied together. It's this really cool, uh, way to look at
00:42:49.640
basically understanding how our world works through the understanding of Hollywood propaganda
00:42:53.380
and the deconstruction of it. You know, I think about how, like, let me ask you this question.
00:43:01.640
Blake, go ahead. If you have something to say, go ahead. No, no, no, no, go ahead. It was a bad
00:43:04.280
thought. I wasn't a fully complete thought. No. So I know this is kind of a, um, very simple question
00:43:13.700
and kind of cliche. Do you think this will result in any political changes? Tyler, you're the political
00:43:19.560
guy. Is this going to result in any political changes in California? Yeah. I saw, I saw something
00:43:26.920
really interesting that someone mentioned today, which was, uh, oh, I think somebody sent it over.
00:43:31.580
I think it was, um, uh, gosh, uh, what's his name? Uh, radio show host in California. Um, that used to,
00:43:39.340
that was best friends with Jimmy Kimmel. Why am I spacing right now? Uh, Adam Carolla. Yeah. I don't
00:43:43.820
know if, yeah, Adam Carolla made a good point that, uh, people are going to want to rebuild that area
00:43:48.920
very quickly. And there's a lot of libs that live in there that are, uh, you know, touchy feely
00:43:55.820
libs, you know, that are down on the coast that are in that area. And they're going to be, there are
00:44:00.400
really, they're going to weaponize like the California permitting. Well, they're going to, yeah, they're
00:44:03.980
going to have to go through that process with all the local permitting everything. And they're by
00:44:10.620
naturally organic natural episode that's going to happen is that all these woke lib feel good, you know,
00:44:18.440
coastal Californians are going to get so mad at the government with what they're going to have to
00:44:23.280
do to rebuild that all it's going to make them hardcore right wingers. I mean, it is really crazy
00:44:27.900
when you read about, have you heard of the California coastal commission? Yep. It's like,
00:44:32.340
it's almost like the comparison that comes to mind is actually like the federal reserve in a weird way
00:44:37.820
because federal reserve is not, you know, is independent and they kind of just do their own
00:44:42.340
thing. And even the president currently sort of just has to look and be like, okay, the fed,
00:44:46.240
you know, you know, Trump will go on Twitter and nag the chairman of the fed to do something
00:44:50.180
because it's an independent agency. And Trump wants to change that, of course, but that's the
00:44:54.040
way it is currently. And it's like the same thing, I believe with the CCC. They're basically this
00:44:58.340
rogue entity that has legal imprimatur to essentially make whatever law they want over
00:45:05.000
anything concerning California's thousand mile coastline. And so they've just gone out and
00:45:10.000
they're like, oh yeah, we're just going to ban, you know, building anything in this entire area.
00:45:13.660
And to make the comparison, Charlie, to Hawaii, there's not that many people that live where
00:45:19.200
the Lahaina incident happened in Maui. There is a ton of people who live within that immediate
00:45:25.220
geography of, of where this has happened. And so you're going to have a lot more vocal,
00:45:30.540
a lot more angry, a lot of wealthy people who, who have, have a lot to lose generational type
00:45:38.220
wealth. That's been basically cemented into that part of the country that they're going to be in
00:45:43.740
all out war with the government. And just like you're mentioning, like, like, this is like,
00:45:47.660
we're talking about made up, you know, fictitious type, type California style government that's down
00:45:53.060
the coastline. And, you know, we were joking about Baja California and everything else, but like,
00:45:57.640
this is going to be something that I think is going to be a real big break in politics in Southern
00:46:03.200
California. That's going to force not just from the, and don't forget the coastline is where it's
00:46:09.100
the deepest blue. Yeah. You have the deepest blue, the wokest, the most, you know, like put that up
00:46:14.760
on screen, put up the precinct map. Oh yeah. The saddest, you know, the saddest, you know, feeling bad
00:46:22.160
about being white type, you know, a lot of, a lot of Jewish heritage that's there, a lot of money
00:46:28.600
that's there that they're already, we're on the verge of flipping. Uh, we saw a lot of these areas
00:46:34.980
go, uh, tremendously right, tremendously pro Trump this last election. This is, this may be the straw
00:46:41.720
that breaks the camel's back that since Southern California into a 20, 30 year slide that may be
00:46:50.360
where people don't forget this for a long time between COVID policies. And then this where, you
00:46:55.200
know, you might went back big chunks of Southern California that we've lost, you know, for the last
00:46:59.300
20 years. So just to get back on that, specifically the California coastal commission, this is something
00:47:05.560
there, this, because all news ends up going back to the same person. They're actually in a feud with
00:47:09.680
Elon Musk right now because the U S government wanted to launch more satellites from Vandenberg
00:47:16.180
air, uh, space for space in Southern California to put up satellites for Starlink. And you know, it's good
00:47:21.480
for us to launch satellites into space. And the California coastal commission shut this down
00:47:25.820
because apparently they just have the power to do this. And they issue statements. The commissioners
00:47:30.580
just come out and say, yeah, we don't want them launching it. Cause we don't like Elon Musk. I'm
00:47:34.580
not making this up. This is an actual statement. Like commissioner commission chair, uh, Carol Hart
00:47:39.940
said, this is why we're dealing with a company. The head of which has aggressively injected himself
00:47:45.040
into the presidential race. And then we have Mike Wilson, also a commissioner. This company
00:47:51.220
is owned by the richest person in the world with direct control of what could be the most
00:47:55.620
expansive communication system on the planet. And this man has talked about political retribution.
00:48:01.860
So we have these political lunatics who just took over this independent commission and they
00:48:06.580
basically just have decided they have veto power over doing anything or building anything
00:48:11.700
within, you know, through like 3000 feet or something or like three miles, something like
00:48:17.200
that of California's coastline. And yeah, you're right. They're probably going to try to do this.
00:48:23.100
Even if they aren't right now, there will be people who will try to manipulate this process.
00:48:27.080
California is one of the worst States in the country for, you know, clogging things up with
00:48:30.620
lawsuits. Even if California tries to open the way, there will be some environmental group that
00:48:35.400
will say, Oh yeah, there were grandfathered things where like you were allowed to do this
00:48:39.020
because your house was a hundred years old. Nope. Doesn't apply anymore. We're not going
00:48:42.260
to let you build this. There's an endangered, you know, newt that grows on the side of this
00:48:46.440
mountain. Well, it's going to be crazy. And Charlie, we, we talked about this, this,
00:48:50.240
this morning, we, we talked about the trifecta that California has been in with Democrats for so long.
00:48:56.780
This California coastal commission could very well end up being at the epicenter, but it's not just
00:49:01.260
that. I mean, it's so far beyond that with the, the Senate, the, the assembly that they have
00:49:06.420
there, the governor who, by the way, has political aspirations to be president. You know, the,
00:49:11.820
the California coastal commission is made up of people who are appointed by the governor and the
00:49:16.060
Senate and the state and the assembly. That's who makes it up. And they've been run by Democrats.
00:49:22.220
So they, those people take direct orders. Everything you just, you just said is basically the voice box
00:49:27.540
of Gavin Newsom because they take direct orders from these people. They don't, they don't hop,
00:49:32.560
skip or jump without running it by the Senate, the assembly, because they could get yanked or
00:49:36.660
replaced probably pretty quickly. This is going to be a huge, I mean, I think that this disaster is
00:49:43.560
probably going to be one of the most costly disasters that we see in the modern times by
00:49:49.360
the time this thing is done. And you're going to, we got, we got to wrap soon. The impact that's on
00:49:55.200
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