Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 27, 2025


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 70 — Seatgate? Best Executive Orders? Panda Express?


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

192.34729

Word Count

13,452

Sentence Count

1,162

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Jack and Jack are back in Washington, D.C. They recap the Inaugural weekend, including the chaos surrounding the outdoor service and the seating controversy surrounding the swearing-in ceremony. Then, Jack and Jack take a trip down memory lane to the Capitol Rotunda.


Transcript

00:00:00.660 From the age of big brother.
00:00:03.020 If they want to get you, they'll get you.
00:00:05.700 DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
00:00:09.640 They're collecting your communications.
00:00:20.520 Okay, everybody.
00:00:21.840 It is Thought Crime Thursday, live from the Imperial Capitol.
00:00:25.900 Can we get the wide shot going here?
00:00:27.880 Can we just go wide?
00:00:28.640 Look at this.
00:00:29.600 Is that not the greatest looking thing you've ever seen?
00:00:31.960 Charlie, that desk is enormous.
00:00:34.940 It's like a DCTC.
00:00:36.460 It's a DCTC.
00:00:38.180 That's right.
00:00:38.700 DCTC.
00:00:39.500 So is there only one remote guest?
00:00:41.720 Is it Blake?
00:00:42.420 It's Blake.
00:00:43.000 Why did Blake leave?
00:00:43.700 You can't escape me.
00:00:45.760 No one told me to stay.
00:00:47.720 I was only booked through Tuesday.
00:00:49.640 Blake, I specifically said, let's all do thought crime in D.C.
00:00:52.540 Yeah, you said it yesterday.
00:00:55.360 And then I'm like, hey, where are you, Blake?
00:00:56.860 And you're like, oh, I flew back to Phoenix.
00:00:58.220 It is great to see you all.
00:01:02.080 We are here live from D.C.
00:01:03.420 So much to recap and go over.
00:01:06.040 I really want to spend time to kind of go through inauguration weekend before we even get into some of the substance of all the executive orders and everything that we've gone through.
00:01:15.620 What is the best way to start this conversation, Jack?
00:01:18.700 I know that there is some prompting here, but I think the other one is Charlie Kirk.
00:01:24.160 Oh, Seatgate, too, right?
00:01:25.360 Charlie Kirk is very naughty.
00:01:26.960 Charlie Kirk is very bad.
00:01:28.460 How dare Charlie Kirk be allowed?
00:01:30.140 Oh, that's funny.
00:01:30.820 I know.
00:01:31.220 I know a place of honor in the inauguration, in the inaugural hall or whatever we're calling the Capitol Rotunda from the day of, because this became the big sort of talk of the whisper talk of D.C.
00:01:46.360 Everybody knows the way Washington, D.C., and it is a very historic kind of, you know, kind of discussion as to, you know, so who is seated closest to the king?
00:01:55.700 You know, your proximity is power, et cetera.
00:01:58.140 Which is, and by the way, which is true.
00:02:00.300 This is actually true.
00:02:01.480 But there was a lot of chatter that certain House Republicans were very, very upset that Charlie Kirk, who isn't even an elected member of Congress, got to sit in a better seat.
00:02:14.560 Not just Charlie Kirk, plus wife.
00:02:16.500 Charlie Kirk plus wife.
00:02:18.220 How dare we?
00:02:19.640 How dare we?
00:02:20.940 Let's show some of these pictures.
00:02:22.560 We're allowed to sit closer than some of them.
00:02:25.300 So, obviously, we know that the outdoor service ceremony was canceled.
00:02:30.320 So, by the way, right decision.
00:02:31.420 Would you agree, Andrew?
00:02:32.500 I tell you what.
00:02:33.580 I think it was absolutely 100%, 1,000% the right decision.
00:02:39.080 But, Charlie, you're bringing up another sort of controversy.
00:02:42.560 Was it because of the weather or were there other concerns?
00:02:45.880 And so I just want to flag that in case we want to go back to it, because I would like to.
00:02:49.980 Well, no, I'm just saying that if you even walked outside in the cold, the wind, it was, people would have died.
00:02:56.300 Like, people do not appreciate how bone-chillingly cold it is in D.C. right now.
00:03:00.600 Now, for me, as Chicagoan, I was like, okay, just wear more clothing.
00:03:03.120 But you don't understand.
00:03:03.760 There's people from all across the country that are coming in that will drive in from Georgia and South Carolina that are not used to this.
00:03:09.100 Some old person would have died.
00:03:11.180 Donald Trump saved lives before he was even in office.
00:03:13.900 So it got moved into the Capitol Rotunda.
00:03:16.660 It was actually my first time ever in the Rotunda, believe it or not.
00:03:19.240 I've done the Capitol thing.
00:03:20.820 Wait, what?
00:03:21.400 Yeah, I've never been in the Rotunda.
00:03:22.380 You've never been in the Capitol Rotunda?
00:03:23.980 Yeah, I've been in the Capitol.
00:03:25.780 I was in the area where the State of the Union is administered, the House chamber.
00:03:29.600 Right.
00:03:30.120 I've been in the Senate chamber, but never the Rotunda.
00:03:33.360 But that's like, you walk in and you're in the Rotunda.
00:03:35.000 Well, you've just never done the tourist thing, seen the paintings?
00:03:37.380 So I have to give a little inside baseball here.
00:03:40.800 I got to do a tour in which Speaker Johnson, I know, we like him, okay, ish.
00:03:49.040 All right, he's doing some good stuff.
00:03:50.480 He gave us a private tour, a little bit.
00:03:52.320 Andrew's going to get so much hate mail.
00:03:53.680 I know, I'm going to get it.
00:03:54.380 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:03:55.860 Yeah, let me have it.
00:03:57.400 Listen, I got an opportunity to do a private tour and then Speaker Johnson addressed the tour, okay?
00:04:04.340 And they actually took us inside the area where they were setting up the luncheon
00:04:11.720 and where they were going to do the actual swearing in, and I got to see the Rotunda and all that stuff.
00:04:16.080 So I wasn't like Charlie exclusive by any means, but it was very, very cool.
00:04:21.960 And I will tell you, Charlie, you had this experience, I'm sure, as well.
00:04:25.760 It's way smaller in person.
00:04:27.920 That whole space is way smaller in person than it appears on TV.
00:04:31.040 The Rotunda?
00:04:31.360 Yeah, it's extremely tight.
00:04:33.780 And so there was kind of the war over ticketing.
00:04:36.660 So let's kind of show the picture of the Rotunda from the interior.
00:04:40.540 So as things got announced, there was a nonstop fight from donors, influencers, elected officials
00:04:48.280 of who actually gets in the Rotunda.
00:04:50.280 Now, this is very complicated because the Presidential Inaugural Committee, otherwise known as JASIC,
00:04:57.740 does not control all the tickets.
00:04:59.880 It is a joint committee between the Senate, the House, and the incoming administration.
00:05:05.740 So as soon as you decide to go in the Rotunda, you are 100% in Article I land within the House
00:05:12.940 and the Senate.
00:05:13.420 So therefore, if you look at the picture, before you even get to some of Trump's friends
00:05:19.980 outside of the dais, and I'll get to the dais in a second, it's all senators.
00:05:23.720 So the senators hogged all of the tickets up front.
00:05:26.840 You're in controlled territory there.
00:05:28.240 They control that land.
00:05:28.960 So to just put this in perspective, there were about 680 seats in the Rotunda.
00:05:36.000 About 400 of them were for Congress.
00:05:39.360 So there was only 230 tickets allocated for Trump and his team, family, and even some
00:05:46.620 select donors.
00:05:47.860 So a huge war over actually who gets ticketing.
00:05:50.980 There was an overflow room where people like Theo Vaughn were and Logan Paul and Megyn Kelly
00:05:56.520 and all the governors.
00:05:58.000 All the governors were in the overflow room, right?
00:06:00.160 So super honored.
00:06:01.740 And thank you to Susie.
00:06:03.460 And thank you to everyone who worked so hard on this for approving, not just myself, but
00:06:08.300 also Erica, big, big lift.
00:06:10.120 And that's a big deal, right?
00:06:12.100 It was a huge honor.
00:06:13.480 And actually, it was a huge honor for all of us that work on all of our...
00:06:18.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:18.720 The fact that we had a literal seat at the table via you was huge.
00:06:24.080 And by the way, not just us.
00:06:25.700 All the grassroots, all the activists.
00:06:27.540 It was a testament to how hard we've all worked and how hard the team has worked.
00:06:31.620 Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA.
00:06:33.860 I mean, it really was a huge, huge honor for the grassroots.
00:06:37.160 I was so touched to be able to just be included.
00:06:39.240 In fact, there was no difference between how you entered.
00:06:44.520 I entered alongside of Ketanji Brown-Jackson, Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas.
00:06:51.280 The whole Supreme Court walked in as I walked in.
00:06:53.940 Literally, like we were just kind of walking in together.
00:06:55.920 There was no guard.
00:06:58.560 There was no...
00:06:58.880 I mean, it was just all kind of one line as you enter into the...
00:07:01.700 Like from outside into the Capitol.
00:07:05.640 By the way, I need to tell my CCP story.
00:07:07.980 Okay?
00:07:08.300 It's an exclusive story I haven't told, which actually plays into this morning.
00:07:11.040 But, okay.
00:07:11.620 Have you debriefed this yet with our...
00:07:14.580 I guess we don't have any national security confirmed cabinet membership, but...
00:07:19.520 I have told Mike Waltz about this.
00:07:21.340 It's a very serious issue.
00:07:22.360 Okay.
00:07:22.900 So I'll get into the CCP story later in the program,
00:07:25.360 because it's worth it.
00:07:26.380 But anyway, honored to have been included.
00:07:29.020 And so I started to get text messages while I'm sitting in there that this woman tweeted
00:07:35.800 saying that some anonymous Republican lawmaker was mad that I had better tickets than them.
00:07:42.200 Now, mind you, Eric Swalwell was literally right behind me.
00:07:45.280 Now, I think I deserve great praise, because I went through high road virality.
00:07:53.540 High road virality.
00:07:55.400 I said, here we are at a presidential inauguration.
00:07:57.340 And I wanted so badly, when it was over, to take out my phone and say,
00:08:02.760 hey, Congressman Swalwell, are you accepting the pardon?
00:08:05.300 Are you accepting the pardon?
00:08:06.420 Because he was on the J6 committee.
00:08:08.140 And I decided not to do it.
00:08:09.620 See, I had the same situation, although it was with other Republicans when we were at the ball.
00:08:14.320 And I was like, you know, this would really go viral with a certain, I don't know,
00:08:20.000 maybe Congresswoman from South Carolina or certain other conservative talkers.
00:08:26.280 But, you know, I was like, you know what?
00:08:27.520 It's a day for unity.
00:08:28.660 It's a day for the president.
00:08:29.860 It's not a day for that.
00:08:30.820 It's not a day for that, right, Charlie?
00:08:31.920 It wasn't a day for that.
00:08:32.900 It wasn't a day for that.
00:08:33.740 Let's put 155 up on screen.
00:08:35.780 Here were these lunatics.
00:08:37.760 Brad Schneider.
00:08:38.680 I don't know who these other people.
00:08:39.380 Eric Swalwell.
00:08:40.860 That was when Donald Trump said in God Save My Life and all the Democrats were sitting.
00:08:44.840 It turned into a mini State of the Union vibe where like half the room would stand and applaud
00:08:49.240 and half the room would kind of sit.
00:08:51.240 But it was because of the rotunda, the noise echoes and actually had a really good energy to it.
00:08:57.000 Well, on TV, how did it feel?
00:08:58.440 On TV, it played like a massive applause line where he said,
00:09:02.500 I've, you know, became convinced that God saved my life to make America great again.
00:09:06.400 It was a huge moment, like chills moment.
00:09:10.740 And so when you sent that picture, I mean, I was getting like live feedback.
00:09:13.900 I saw the picture in our chat.
00:09:15.260 I was like, oh, like, you know, you're like, we're getting this up.
00:09:19.920 I was like, okay.
00:09:20.840 You know, like, and it was, it was a, I think, I think it did like almost 2 million engagements.
00:09:26.060 Like people saw that picture.
00:09:27.480 By the way, after it, about five minutes after Swalwell would stand up for almost every applause line.
00:09:31.020 I think some staffer texted him like Charlie Kirk is roasting you.
00:09:34.800 Stand up.
00:09:36.020 And it was, it was, it was, it was hilarious to kind of see as it was happening.
00:09:41.720 I loved watching and looking at Obama and Hillary.
00:09:44.720 That's a separate.
00:09:45.460 Okay, no, but, but that dynamic of the speech, I mean, Jack, I think you would agree,
00:09:50.140 was what made this not only a historic moment, because we can all feel that the country is on the verge
00:09:55.920 and in the midst of something truly transformational in a positive sense, but the context, doing all of that,
00:10:04.920 the salt in the wound as Joe Biden and Barack Obama.
00:10:08.660 And mind you, we knew that Joe Biden just pardoned his family, but Trump did not.
00:10:12.640 But Trump did not.
00:10:13.140 That's what's so remarkable.
00:10:14.100 But it was this incredible juxtaposition of seeing the, essentially, the hegemonic force
00:10:22.420 and power structure of the previous regimes right there having to swallow these very harsh words.
00:10:29.480 It was a regime change.
00:10:30.400 It was a regime change.
00:10:31.560 And it was, it was, it was incredibly powerful.
00:10:35.260 And a different politician would have used that moment and softened his language, pulled his punches.
00:10:41.700 Trump pulled no punches.
00:10:43.220 Trump, I mean, maybe a little bit.
00:10:44.380 He likes to say that Melania took out a couple of the, like, you know, paragraphs that were a little bit stronger.
00:10:49.720 It was strong as it was.
00:10:51.620 And to see Joe Biden have to sit there and listen to it, Barack Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton,
00:10:57.080 and the whole, George Bush, it was a really incredible, I think, one of the truly historic pictures,
00:11:06.400 just from an optics standpoint, that we will ever live to witness.
00:11:10.540 And to see it in such a tight frame, too, again, on TV, it does, you do not understand how tight of a space that is.
00:11:17.380 I mean, these guys are breathing down each other's necks inside that, that space.
00:11:21.060 Charlie, what, had you ever been that close to Obama and Hillary before?
00:11:24.260 No.
00:11:24.560 I actually had never seen Obama in person.
00:11:27.220 What was that like?
00:11:28.540 It was, it was something, I mean, it's hard to, it's hard to kind of put in words.
00:11:32.460 They just look different but similar in person, I guess, the way you could say.
00:11:37.500 And, I mean, Hillary just is such a disgusting person.
00:11:41.960 And then seeing, I've met George W. Bush before, but you kind of, just, you have to look at it,
00:11:46.200 that ensemble of people will never happen again.
00:11:48.440 It'll never happen.
00:11:49.520 No.
00:11:49.640 Like, that particular ensemble of people will never be recreated.
00:11:52.800 And no, Michelle, I don't know, I don't know what's going on there.
00:11:56.400 Jennifer Aniston would have some words.
00:11:58.020 Trouble in paradise.
00:12:02.360 Okay, strange story.
00:12:04.360 All right, so, not to go into too much detail, my wife came with me on this trip and her friend
00:12:09.640 made dinner reservations for us.
00:12:11.960 And so, on the, I guess it was the Saturday night before inauguration, I was at a restaurant
00:12:16.760 in D.C.
00:12:18.060 And all of a sudden, like, I would say half, because this whole town has been pretty magnified
00:12:22.680 during inauguration, right?
00:12:24.460 I mean, just pure numbers.
00:12:25.360 Total takeover.
00:12:26.100 Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's got to be 60, 40 conservatives.
00:12:28.240 And no resistance.
00:12:28.600 And, yeah, there's very little protest.
00:12:30.940 I haven't seen a single protest.
00:12:32.360 Jack, you had to go hunting for them.
00:12:34.040 Anyways, the point is, all of a sudden, half the audience, it was muted.
00:12:38.360 Starts clapping, and you hear one woman cheer, and it was Barack Obama eating at the same
00:12:43.700 restaurant as me, like, whizzes by, I feel the air behind my head, and I'm, like, trying
00:12:49.780 to figure out why people are cheering.
00:12:51.300 And then my wife's friend goes, Barack Obama just, like, exited.
00:12:54.940 So I turned, and I never even saw the guy.
00:12:57.960 I just felt the air past me, heard the cheers, and apparently he whizzed right past me.
00:13:03.200 It was a very D.C. moment, I will say.
00:13:05.340 And so, all that to say, I got attacked for having good seats, but it wasn't just me.
00:13:11.500 It was also Erica, and they were really sweet to include her, because all the other congressional
00:13:15.480 spouses, this is what made them really mad, all the congressional spouses were in the overflow
00:13:18.800 room.
00:13:19.980 So the congressional spouses were in the overflow room, and Erica got in.
00:13:23.080 And she deserves it, because we were all part of this kind of historic and triumphant
00:13:28.240 moment.
00:13:29.640 And it was just larger than life, breathtaking, and, yeah, that seat gate, where a lot of,
00:13:37.080 and then Jim Banks, Senator Jim Banks, walk through that as well.
00:13:39.720 We have this tweet.
00:13:40.800 So, let's go ahead.
00:13:42.100 Well, actually, I just saw Senator Jim Banks, like, five minutes before the program.
00:13:45.020 Jim Banks is part of this new guard that you've been talking about.
00:13:47.640 He's so great.
00:13:47.760 That really has it.
00:13:48.740 Okay, throw up 166.
00:13:50.040 I know you had it before.
00:13:52.140 But, so this is Julia Grace Brufke.
00:13:57.200 And Julia Grace is a senior Washington reporter, sort of known, she's with the Daily Beast.
00:14:07.160 She's fine.
00:14:08.040 Everything's fine.
00:14:08.960 She's actually used to work at the Washington Examiner, believe it or not.
00:14:12.020 So, she says, Charlie Kirk has better seats than every member of Congress.
00:14:16.020 Tells you how little Trump team thinks of Congress, one GOP lawmaker tells me.
00:14:21.600 Then, let's go to 167, Jim Banks chimes in and says, Charlie Kirk has done more than most
00:14:27.420 members of Congress combined to get us to this point today.
00:14:30.920 Which was, I thought, a really nice thing for Jim Banks to sort of say.
00:14:35.340 Organically.
00:14:35.880 I didn't ask him to do that.
00:14:36.720 Yeah, and you retweeted it, because I thought it was a great point, and you thought it was
00:14:40.420 a great point, and good for Jim Banks.
00:14:42.620 And I would say, Jim Banks is a really good barometer of when we get into confirmation talks,
00:14:48.280 when we get into how do we get the President's agenda across the finish line, Jim Banks is
00:14:54.080 a perfect embodiment of this new guard, Bernie Moreno.
00:14:59.100 I just saw Bernie, too.
00:15:00.120 Yeah.
00:15:00.660 These guys are get it done guys.
00:15:05.060 These guys are totally on the team.
00:15:07.080 They're not this vestige of the past of a bygone Republican Party that nobody's just
00:15:12.180 taking the time to raise $50 million to primary, right?
00:15:15.700 But these guys are with it, and Jim's totally on the team, and I love that he did that for
00:15:22.040 you.
00:15:22.180 But let's show a picture of your seating location, Charlie.
00:15:26.860 164.
00:15:27.360 Let's go ahead.
00:15:27.800 We dropped an arrow.
00:15:29.160 Now, if you think they were mad, just to be clear, if the original dais would have
00:15:34.800 stood, the tickets would have been even better, meaning that because of all the capital mix-up
00:15:41.180 in the House and the Senate.
00:15:41.900 You mean had it been outside?
00:15:43.140 Had it been outside, I would have been two or three rows back from the people that were
00:15:47.040 on the dais with Trump inside.
00:15:49.940 I don't know if I understand what you're saying.
00:15:50.960 So, like, for example, where Elon was and where the cabinet was...
00:15:54.880 You would have been three rows behind him?
00:15:55.840 I would have been, like, in that group.
00:15:57.100 Oh, wow.
00:15:57.660 If it would have been outside.
00:15:59.260 And so...
00:15:59.660 That's amazing.
00:16:00.280 Yeah, heads would have really exploded.
00:16:01.980 But because it went inside, it was like, hey, I really want Erica there.
00:16:05.980 It was kind of some, like, hoisting training.
00:16:07.360 Yeah, yeah, sure.
00:16:07.740 And I was just like, I want to be in the room.
00:16:08.940 I don't care if I have a terrible ticket.
00:16:11.040 Well, apparently it wasn't terrible enough.
00:16:13.160 No, no, I'm not saying it was terrible.
00:16:14.480 No, I just mean...
00:16:15.400 I'm saying that was actually awesome.
00:16:16.680 I saw everything.
00:16:17.340 I love that Swalwell was behind you.
00:16:19.260 No, I was super honored, and it was just treated so well.
00:16:21.960 And, again, it was just kind of blown away, because last inauguration, I was, like, looking
00:16:26.780 up in the cheap seats.
00:16:27.880 I was like, oh, hi, I see a little dot.
00:16:29.580 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:30.480 Well, I mean, it's a whole new day in Washington.
00:16:33.280 I will tell you, a little vibe check on the ground, Jack.
00:16:35.980 You could be good on this.
00:16:37.340 I just feel like this city, even in Trump 1.0, in the first term, I don't feel at all conspicuous
00:16:45.300 being loud and proud of what I'm thinking.
00:16:47.340 I don't hold back opinions at the, like, restaurant or, like, a coffee.
00:16:52.040 I'm just, I'm out and proud, and I don't even, you know, before...
00:16:56.500 Well, it's like the resistance is quiet.
00:16:58.180 There's, yeah, it's just, like, everybody kind of...
00:17:00.300 It's just non-existent, right?
00:17:00.840 It's just non-existent.
00:17:01.560 See, but I worry that that's, I worry if that's a, if that's a false sense of security,
00:17:07.120 because...
00:17:07.760 It's totally possible.
00:17:08.540 This town is still this town, all right?
00:17:10.700 You know, the cockroaches are dug deep.
00:17:13.700 But the vermin are on the run.
00:17:14.920 They are very...
00:17:15.620 We're getting a lot of them fired.
00:17:18.720 A lot of them are on notice.
00:17:20.540 A lot of them know that they are probably, you know, got to...
00:17:25.780 Listen, the president has every right to get...
00:17:26.960 This town's been around a lot longer than any of the three of us.
00:17:29.720 I totally agree.
00:17:30.300 I totally agree.
00:17:31.040 But they legitimately do feel threatened for their future, and they're not going to pop
00:17:36.020 their head up just now.
00:17:36.680 They are, and that's why...
00:17:37.880 That's the best take, because they don't know where to fight.
00:17:39.480 Yeah, they're all turtling right now.
00:17:41.480 They're sort of waiting.
00:17:42.480 They're sort of in, you know, kind of in, like, receive mode.
00:17:45.940 Okay, what do I do?
00:17:47.500 How do I hunker down?
00:17:48.560 How do I, you know, let's leak some stuff on Hegseth.
00:17:50.620 Let's leak some stuff on Tulsi.
00:17:52.100 Let's, you know, see if we can get that going there.
00:17:54.300 Get, you know, Murkowski-Collins came out.
00:17:56.720 You know, is McConnell going to vote?
00:17:57.860 Who knows?
00:17:58.360 Whatever.
00:17:59.440 Is G.D. going to have to come back to town to be the tiebreaker?
00:18:01.920 Whatever.
00:18:02.360 Point being is, it's a muted response, far muted.
00:18:06.980 Obviously, you're not seeing the Antifa riots like we saw in 2017, the limos burning,
00:18:11.460 the attack on the deplorable, et cetera, et cetera.
00:18:14.020 That said, I'm just saying, guys, we haven't quite hit, you know, stay frosty.
00:18:20.600 Stay frosty is what I always say.
00:18:21.840 Yeah, and I think that's a good word, but I will tell you, just the fact that we're
00:18:24.800 even this far is just such a dramatic, dramatic shift.
00:18:29.140 And you look at President Trump's approval ratings.
00:18:31.900 I mean, he's above water right now.
00:18:33.860 Some polls have him far above water.
00:18:34.500 Which is why they're scared of really coming out.
00:18:37.200 And really also why, and, you know, I know we're kind of changing the conversation a
00:18:41.420 little bit, but it's why, and Charlie, I'd love to get your thoughts on this.
00:18:46.840 The flood the zone strategy has been brilliant.
00:18:52.440 I don't think they should let up.
00:18:54.000 I think that it's been so successful that the longer you wait to do things, the more
00:19:01.580 time it's going to give this town, the media, the left, whatever you want to call it, the
00:19:06.840 deep state staters, time to respond.
00:19:09.920 But if you're firing on all pistons, if you are doing the full court press, they don't
00:19:14.940 have time to respond because there's too many things coming down the pipe at once.
00:19:18.580 The minute you slow up, that's what gives them time to get their ducks in a row and get
00:19:23.340 a response off.
00:19:24.700 No, look, I think you have to continue to flood the zone.
00:19:26.600 And by the way, this is happening in multiple volleys.
00:19:30.480 There's a reason why it's day one, day two, day three.
00:19:32.560 You can't keep up with it.
00:19:33.900 I mean, today was JFK files.
00:19:35.460 Yesterday was affirmative action.
00:19:37.140 The day before that was January 6th.
00:19:38.500 I mean, those are three monumental things.
00:19:41.180 Yeah, and the pro-lifers.
00:19:41.880 So where do they even focus their media attention?
00:19:44.040 Understand, the media is largely the life force and the signal for where a lot of these people
00:19:48.020 end up fighting.
00:19:48.940 Now, they're going to try the stops and the stuff in the courts, but pardon power is absolute.
00:19:53.120 They can't challenge that.
00:19:54.420 So that's happening.
00:19:55.100 I mean, January 6th is absolute.
00:19:56.760 The affirmative action EO is just rescinding another EO.
00:19:59.560 So the DEI stuff is completely within the power and the authority of the current president.
00:20:03.980 But also understand that so much of this, the next wave is Pete Hexeth.
00:20:09.020 The next wave after that is going to be Pam Bondi.
00:20:12.240 Wait until, I mean, for example, wait until Kash Patel and Pam Bondi can go, we want a review
00:20:15.840 of all cases over the last eight years.
00:20:17.880 We want to know what's pending, current investigations, people are looking into, you know, subpoenas,
00:20:22.120 and they have to go look into all the active case files.
00:20:24.220 I mean, that's going to be a whole new wave.
00:20:26.100 And the FISA warrants.
00:20:28.480 Well, that's, yeah, exactly.
00:20:29.540 And that's why we need Tulsi.
00:20:30.360 They're going to see who's got active FISA warrants out on them.
00:20:33.540 Tulsi is going to be instrumental in that and making sure that gets across.
00:20:37.000 So who are they looking at right now?
00:20:39.040 Who was there?
00:20:40.000 And this is something that I'm even still waiting to hear.
00:20:42.120 Was there a Carter Page of 2024 or a George Papadopoulos, someone that they used to go
00:20:49.300 after them to say, well, unsuccessfully in terms of infiltration, but successfully in
00:20:54.900 terms of getting a FISA warrant against them.
00:20:57.180 I don't know.
00:20:57.880 But I'm just saying, I'm looking at the past track record.
00:21:01.340 I'm noticing a pattern.
00:21:03.160 It's a basic pattern recognition.
00:21:04.720 This is thought crime after all.
00:21:06.180 And we're saying, look, I don't trust these guys.
00:21:08.480 I don't trust these guys for one second.
00:21:10.400 And not to mention just the very basic stuff about what does the FBI actually know about
00:21:15.880 Thomas Matthew Crooks or Ryan Wesley Ralph, the people who tried to kill President Trump,
00:21:21.040 were they really just lone wolves running around on their own and whoopsie daisy were able
00:21:25.200 to slip through Secret Service?
00:21:26.900 Let's actually get the receipts on that.
00:21:29.460 Andrew, what a thought?
00:21:30.300 No, I just, you know, it's funny.
00:21:31.820 You brought up the assassination attempts.
00:21:36.260 You know, you bring up drones, like all of these huge stories.
00:21:41.160 And we don't know the half of it.
00:21:44.300 And it's just, it's a reminder, like with this blitzkrieg that we're all living through,
00:21:49.640 this flooding the zone.
00:21:50.740 Go careful there, Elon.
00:21:51.680 Awesome.
00:21:52.340 Which is awesome.
00:21:53.880 I use that on my show every day.
00:21:55.900 Media Matters hasn't written it up yet.
00:21:57.100 So here's what I'll say, though, is that there is a possibility that we forget to review
00:22:03.100 the important stuff, right?
00:22:04.660 That we forget to like, by the way, another thing I want to find out about, Jack, Las
00:22:08.660 Vegas shooting.
00:22:10.300 Uh-oh.
00:22:10.740 You know what I mean?
00:22:11.400 Uh-oh.
00:22:11.560 So these things that have been hidden from public view, and we don't really have an insight
00:22:17.200 on it, I'm excited to get into it.
00:22:19.640 And I think there's a real possibility.
00:22:21.100 And it's, but there's just so much news that it's even hard to keep your eye on.
00:22:24.540 I want to get Blake in here.
00:22:25.780 Blake, I want you to walk through some of these executive orders.
00:22:28.320 By the way, there are some delightful EOs that did not get any attention.
00:22:33.120 That's what's great about it.
00:22:34.280 Did you know that there was an EO signed on the first day, putting people over fish?
00:22:41.260 No, it's actually on the White House website.
00:22:42.840 Oh, Trump's obsessed with the Delta smells.
00:22:44.400 Stopping radical environmentalism to provide water to Southern California.
00:22:47.300 The title of the EO is putting people over fish.
00:22:50.480 Okay, one second before we go to Blake here.
00:22:52.580 Charlie, I'll never forget, the first time you introduced me to President Trump, he goes,
00:22:59.420 where do you live?
00:23:00.140 And I mentioned California.
00:23:02.020 And he, President Trump goes into a whole, like, diatribe.
00:23:06.360 This is like probably 2018, 2019, something like that, Charlie.
00:23:10.700 It goes into a whole diatribe about the Delta smelt.
00:23:14.120 Instantly.
00:23:14.760 Soon as he hears the word California, the guy goes, Delta smelt, water.
00:23:19.240 I mean, this is deep within President Trump's subconscious.
00:23:25.240 Well, it's pretty conscious now.
00:23:26.440 All right.
00:23:26.700 So, Blake, walk through some of your favorite EOs and the profundity of the affirmative action one.
00:23:31.280 All right.
00:23:31.720 And all you guys, all you listening, we have several thousand people here on Rumble Live.
00:23:36.220 Send us chats if you want us to highlight an underrated favorite of yours, because we'd love to hear what you all think.
00:23:41.840 Because it really is crazy, Charlie.
00:23:43.580 I've been looking through what it was.
00:23:46.480 And as we discussed, as you discussed on the show the other day, it was in your book.
00:23:51.720 There was a chapter in your book that was this, like, kind of fantasia when we have the next Republican president.
00:23:57.360 And it's saying, like, day one, just imagine a Republican president who drops this order and that order and that order.
00:24:04.000 And they just have dozens of them by the end of the day.
00:24:06.360 And Washington is bowled over because you're not supposed to do things that fast.
00:24:10.600 And that's actually what they did.
00:24:12.280 It's amazing.
00:24:13.220 It was genuinely extremely exciting to watch, not even being inside the room like you were.
00:24:19.620 But let's think.
00:24:21.020 So, obviously, the big headline item was pardoning all the J6ers right away.
00:24:26.760 And what was so brilliant about that was he gets it out there right away.
00:24:30.960 That's all CNN.
00:24:32.140 They're hyperventilating.
00:24:33.140 That's all they can talk about.
00:24:34.120 That's all MSNBC can talk about.
00:24:36.680 It's quite a bit of what they're talking about at the newspapers.
00:24:39.760 And while he's doing that, he's dropping, okay, we're getting rid of the pride flags at all the embassies and federal buildings.
00:24:47.060 You just wave the American flag.
00:24:48.540 You don't need that second national flag they invented.
00:24:51.700 We're shutting down all the DEI people.
00:24:54.580 We're putting them all on furlough.
00:24:56.020 We're shutting down all those offices.
00:24:57.400 We're going to get rid of them.
00:24:58.520 The craziest one to me, this was my personal favorite, was this was two nights ago, Tuesday night, like 9 p.m., they announced via Chris Ruffo that President Trump has signed this, that he's repealing the executive order from LBJ's administration.
00:25:17.620 I believe it's 11-246.
00:25:20.540 It's the executive order that basically created the modern racial racket, like the affirmative action racket, where it was supposed to say, don't discriminate.
00:25:30.920 And as Washington loves to do, the courts went and they interpreted this to, it is mandatory that you discriminate against people.
00:25:38.160 And this order repeals that and also says, by the way, we now actually interpret the Civil Rights Act to do what it says it does, which is that discrimination's illegal.
00:25:49.180 So if you get a contract with the federal government, can't do it.
00:25:52.100 If you're getting a federal grant, like if you're a university, can't do it.
00:25:55.600 This is one of the most important orders any Republican president has done in our lifetimes, on anything.
00:26:04.300 This could be absolutely monumental.
00:26:06.660 And what's amazing about it, Charlie, is it was not the lead story on CNN when it dropped.
00:26:12.140 It was not the lead story in the New York Times when it dropped, because they were too busy covering J6, covering the furloughing the DEI people, covering confirmation hearings.
00:26:23.620 They were too busy to put any focus on it.
00:26:27.060 And that's what's really been so amazing with the first few days of the Trump administration.
00:26:32.200 It is shock and awe applied to politics.
00:26:35.280 I went and I looked it up.
00:26:36.920 Barack Obama had, I think, 19 executive orders in his first hundred days.
00:26:43.380 No, I think it was 32 executive orders.
00:26:47.540 I can't remember the exact number.
00:26:48.780 Whatever it was, he had some number of executive orders in his first hundred days, and President Trump beat it in about 12 hours.
00:26:58.540 Whoa.
00:26:59.540 Amazing.
00:27:00.680 Remarkable.
00:27:01.340 The great Will Scharf, by the way, taking care of the executive orders, running that on the desk.
00:27:07.340 It was awesome to see him at the Capital One Arena and then in the Oval.
00:27:11.300 So everyone knows, here's a trivia question, Blake might know, who in American history has had Will Scharf's job before?
00:27:21.120 White House staff secretary.
00:27:23.220 Kavanaugh.
00:27:23.860 That's true.
00:27:24.560 Well done.
00:27:25.400 That is right.
00:27:26.520 Ten points to Jack Posobiec.
00:27:28.660 The White House staff secretary.
00:27:30.600 Off the dome, baby.
00:27:31.920 The White House staff secretary, on the surface, seems as if it's like a perfunctory job.
00:27:37.140 It says, controls the paper flow to the president.
00:27:39.460 That is the central nervous system of the entire federal government.
00:27:42.600 They control all the paper.
00:27:44.020 Well, so you think, okay, what is it, like newspapers?
00:27:46.460 No.
00:27:47.120 Anything, anything the president needs to review or sign from a national security briefing to an executive order to a memo from a foreign leader comes through the White House staff secretary office.
00:27:58.320 And if there is a comma wrong, if there is an apostrophe wrong, if there is a number where it's like, well, is it executive order 1138 or is it executive order 1139?
00:28:08.420 It could be the difference between, you know, pardoning somebody for something that you meant or didn't mean.
00:28:14.420 So the White House staff secretary, Will Scharf, is doing amazing.
00:28:18.920 One of my personal favorites.
00:28:20.360 First of all, I want to read some of the executive orders.
00:28:22.180 We're going to do this on the show because I think we have to go through some of these because they haven't gotten the attention that they deserve.
00:28:26.860 Yes.
00:28:28.320 This one, restoring names that honor American greatness.
00:28:32.540 So obviously, you know, there's the, you know, Gulf of America, all that, which I love.
00:28:36.460 But you go deeper, it's the, he's just taking over the entire naming commission to review every single name of like national parks and rivers to make sure that they reflect American greatness.
00:28:48.040 I think it's amazing.
00:28:49.240 We should, you've got to bring back, you should lobby and bring back the old base names.
00:28:54.120 We got, we got to get those back.
00:28:56.320 I have a high degree of certainty.
00:28:58.080 He's going to allow Pete Hegseth to get a victory lap on that one.
00:29:00.660 Base names are coming back.
00:29:01.600 Yeah, you know, that's, that one is good.
00:29:03.520 Yeah, but while we're at it, while we're at it, we should change Beijing back to Peking.
00:29:08.340 China would never recover from that one.
00:29:11.580 Yeah.
00:29:11.940 You know, you're talking about the imperial capital feeling muted, Jack.
00:29:17.160 Look at it.
00:29:17.700 On day one, there was an order to review all potential, oh wait, hold on, never mind.
00:29:22.220 It was basically reclassifying members of the federal civil servants so they are easier to fire and replace, especially if they hinder or sabotage the administration's agenda.
00:29:33.460 So, like, they see all these executive orders coming through.
00:29:37.460 They've heard the rumors about Schedule F.
00:29:39.520 I mean, right?
00:29:40.280 So, so, they're, they're ducking for cover.
00:29:44.220 What do you think all the diversity czars are doing right now?
00:29:47.540 Do you think they're thinking of us?
00:29:49.280 Do you think they're having a good night?
00:29:50.360 Putting their, uh, their resumes out.
00:29:52.680 Putting their resumes out there.
00:29:53.640 Oh, we didn't even mention it yet.
00:29:54.640 They're probably too lazy for that.
00:29:55.120 We didn't even mention it yet.
00:29:56.260 The order for all of the, uh, federal workers to go back to work.
00:30:00.540 That was great when he issued it.
00:30:02.680 It's now amazing because I'm finding the federal workers who are whining on the internet.
00:30:08.340 Uh, you can go on that, you know, giant volcano of soy that is Reddit.
00:30:12.540 And, of course, they have a federal workers subreddit.
00:30:15.040 And they were complaining.
00:30:16.040 Oh, I saw this earlier.
00:30:16.860 Yeah.
00:30:17.040 They were saying, we, they're, it's all they'll talk about.
00:30:20.520 They're all freaking out.
00:30:21.420 And, like, the top thread when I looked at it, uh, I think we posted this on Twitter.
00:30:25.860 They were freaking out where they're saying, we have to fight back by, we have to boycott
00:30:30.560 every small business near our office.
00:30:33.020 Don't go to the restaurants.
00:30:34.480 Don't go to the gas stations.
00:30:36.260 Don't, don't shop at the grocery stores.
00:30:38.240 It's such a perfect symbol that they're so angry about having to go to the office that
00:30:42.800 they want to take it out on small businesses staffed by employees who actually have to
00:30:48.380 go to work for their jobs, who actually do real work every day.
00:30:51.980 And they want to lash out at them to show how angry they are that they have to go into
00:30:55.680 the office like a normal person because there's such disgraceful and like resentful and pathetic
00:31:02.220 people.
00:31:02.720 And then they're also whining, uh, they were whining below your, your tweet, Charlie, where
00:31:07.020 they were saying, we could make, someone literally said we could make infinite money in the private
00:31:13.360 sector, but instead they're just self-sacrificially working for the federal government.
00:31:17.940 Uh, I think when they quit, when they start quitting, which is one of the reasons we're making
00:31:22.280 them all go back to the office, some of the losers will quit.
00:31:24.820 I think they will be quite surprised how in demand their skills are or how not in demand.
00:31:31.160 Some of them are, they couldn't make endless money for the record.
00:31:36.580 Most of these people now, the ones that could, maybe they will, and this will be the best
00:31:40.100 thing that ever happened to them.
00:31:41.400 But the vast majority of them, you know, and Blake, I think you pointed this out.
00:31:45.440 A lot of these people have like side jobs and secondary jobs and they basically have
00:31:49.220 fleecing off the government.
00:31:50.480 I'm working on this.
00:31:51.460 I'm working on this.
00:31:52.120 There was a girl, I, there was a, I'm just going to say this.
00:31:55.780 When I was in the Intel community, I was at Navy intelligence and there was a girl who ran
00:31:59.480 like a baking company out of her cubicle at Navy intelligence.
00:32:03.720 And she would be on the phone, like conducted, like she sold like cookies and macaroons and
00:32:08.220 stuff.
00:32:08.540 And she would just be on the phone doing orders while she was on the clock on the government
00:32:13.860 time.
00:32:14.540 A friend of mine told me today, he has a person he knows, I believe at FAA who is a realtor on
00:32:22.100 the side and his official government phone number connects you directly to the voicemail
00:32:28.580 of his real estate side business.
00:32:31.620 Yeah.
00:32:32.220 Yeah.
00:32:32.360 That sounds about right.
00:32:33.280 It's the whole government is full of scams like this.
00:32:36.020 Absolutely full.
00:32:37.880 The, uh, the amount of executive action.
00:32:40.120 Let's just talk about this, Blake, even for some of the skeptics, I'm sure Blake that you
00:32:43.780 know, and Blake is, you know, um, what is it?
00:32:47.120 Good Trump, bad Trump, fair weather.
00:32:48.400 He could be contrarian, Blake is black pill, Blake returning, like, no, he's, he was dormant
00:32:55.120 through the election, but now like there's some good stuff here.
00:32:57.800 You gotta be honest.
00:32:58.680 No, I just, I was just raving about it for like five minutes straight, Charlie.
00:33:02.480 No, no, I know.
00:33:03.520 I just want to talk more broadly though.
00:33:05.060 Yes, of course.
00:33:06.420 Yeah.
00:33:06.680 I'm very excited.
00:33:07.720 I would urge everyone to remember, as we were saying, before we even got into the list,
00:33:11.480 an executive order doesn't make reality by itself.
00:33:15.260 One of the things we did day one was the EO on a birthright citizenship.
00:33:19.360 They're saying you don't get birthright citizenship.
00:33:21.840 If you're in a legal, if you're a tourist or even they're going pretty aggressive.
00:33:26.620 They're saying, even if you're certain types of temporary legal resident, like a guest workers,
00:33:32.020 you don't benefit from it.
00:33:33.560 And that's already been put on hold.
00:33:35.700 A federal judge shot that down right away.
00:33:38.400 And we might lose that.
00:33:39.900 We might go all the way to the Supreme court on that and lose.
00:33:42.800 I'll be frank, we don't change reality with just an executive order, but the level of
00:33:48.640 aggression is great.
00:33:49.900 It keeps everyone off balance.
00:33:51.600 We're going to get wins on at least some, many of these things.
00:33:55.260 And because they're coming out so quickly, you maximize their value over the course of
00:34:00.820 an administration.
00:34:01.660 Like the order on the DEI stuff, it's going to be really hard to disassemble that apparatus,
00:34:07.840 but you're going to get rid of way more of it when you're doing it for 1400 days than
00:34:13.500 if this came out in year two, in year three, at that point to get anything out of it, you
00:34:18.660 got to win the next election.
00:34:19.780 Even if we haven't forfend lose the next election, we'll be able to have a ton of impact because
00:34:25.140 we got going on all the important stuff right away.
00:34:28.180 And it's also just some of the little stuff, I mean, that might not make a, you know, make
00:34:34.740 a big difference.
00:34:35.560 You know, I was walking through the white house in the Eisenhower executive office building
00:34:39.020 and just taking down, I saw people taking down all the signs that say like gender neutral
00:34:45.620 restrooms or taking down the mask signs.
00:34:50.460 Now there was one that I do have to make sure that the new secret service director addresses.
00:34:54.880 There was a secret service guy that was processing me today at the white house and he had not
00:35:01.880 just a gay pride flag.
00:35:03.680 He had like the trans inverted flag on his vest, Jack, on his secret service vest.
00:35:10.820 Yeah.
00:35:11.500 And that's political.
00:35:12.340 At the white house.
00:35:12.940 And by the way, that's political.
00:35:14.100 So do you want to hear something?
00:35:14.960 This might sound a little bit prideful, but I think you guys will cut me slack for not prideful,
00:35:18.800 but typically when I am around police officers, muscular class, national guard, I get recognized
00:35:25.520 and there's like some, like at least some favor, I'd say one, at least half, right?
00:35:29.100 I know what you mean.
00:35:30.740 Especially if you work in politics, right?
00:35:31.460 No, you can see where I'm going here though.
00:35:33.020 So I go into the white house secret service and I get like stone cold response.
00:35:38.120 Yep.
00:35:38.320 So not like, not one, like five, 10, 15, 20.
00:35:42.140 When I do a secret service event, like they're always coming up to me in the right.
00:35:44.600 They're always like, what I'm going at, what I'm going is that Biden and Kamala, they staffed
00:35:50.100 the white house with like loyal, loyalist, like regime.
00:35:54.620 Now there were some people that came up to the cafeteria.
00:35:56.180 Okay.
00:35:56.400 Yeah.
00:35:56.520 You're great.
00:35:56.860 Well, you know, as I was visiting, but it was really interesting.
00:35:59.340 It was very illuminating.
00:36:00.400 It was a big, you were getting the, the, the hairy eye, the hairy eye ball.
00:36:04.280 No.
00:36:04.580 Like I was like, geez.
00:36:05.500 Okay.
00:36:06.060 Yeah.
00:36:06.220 Cause I was expecting like, oh, you know, welcome back.
00:36:08.600 No, the guy's, he's checking me in.
00:36:10.240 He's got the trans flag, like trans flag.
00:36:13.380 Cause it's not just the gay flag.
00:36:14.480 It's the, it's the gay one with the triangle.
00:36:17.520 But you can tell the vibe was off though.
00:36:19.500 Oh no, I could totally tell the vibe was off.
00:36:20.700 It was like not even eye contact.
00:36:22.880 Yeah.
00:36:23.200 But then again, some of the secret service guys that might've slipped through the cracks
00:36:25.960 were like, we love you, fist bump, you know, interestingly, the Hispanic and the
00:36:29.960 black guys were the ones that were the most.
00:36:31.660 Oh, can we just dispel this?
00:36:33.180 Can we just dispel this?
00:36:34.220 And it was the.
00:36:35.500 Charlie, I've been with you at more events than probably most.
00:36:37.960 And I was.
00:36:38.680 It's not about Charlie.
00:36:39.140 No, but, but hold on, hold on.
00:36:40.340 It's not about government.
00:36:40.760 I would just say that, uh, you get fist bumps from black and brown, like dudes.
00:36:45.860 Totally.
00:36:46.760 More than just about anything, which is a hilarious thing.
00:36:50.080 But yeah, I mean, go ahead.
00:36:51.520 I don't want to take, this is an important point you're making.
00:36:53.520 Because we do have to sort of restock the shelves, restaff the, the, the, these key loyalist
00:36:59.320 positions with people that love Trump.
00:37:01.100 I mean, it's just, it's, it's absolutely the mandatory thing at this point.
00:37:04.700 So yeah.
00:37:05.240 And so look, and Trump's going to clean all this up and his team's cleaning it all up.
00:37:08.140 It's just illuminating to see what the prior regime has done up until this moment.
00:37:13.640 Right.
00:37:14.620 Um, but it's sort of like, uh, when, when, when they, uh, what was Obama?
00:37:19.480 It's like when the Soviet Union fell.
00:37:20.920 Who took the W's out of the, uh, was that Clinton took the W's out of the, the key words?
00:37:25.060 That was Obama.
00:37:26.300 Was it Obama?
00:37:27.140 Or, no, it was Clinton because the W was coming after him and they took all the W's out of
00:37:31.100 the key words.
00:37:31.480 Yeah, you're right, you're right.
00:37:32.500 It's like little things like that, but this is a little more important when it's, uh, people
00:37:36.440 that are tasked with.
00:37:37.300 I mean, it's important, but you know, it's like a little pan, like, okay, it's not like world
00:37:40.200 changing stuff, but it is emblematic of likely, you know, a larger issue that needs to be
00:37:45.600 addressed.
00:37:46.200 So I'm just looking through the executive action and orders here.
00:37:48.940 You got to give credit for Trump's boldness.
00:37:50.960 And I mean, I just, I laugh because he does this every day, right?
00:37:54.380 Well, it's going to be an SNL routine at some point in a good way.
00:37:56.860 Oh, for sure.
00:37:57.360 It's going to be as, you know, Will Sharp comes up, sir, we have an executive order to colonize
00:38:03.360 Mars.
00:38:03.780 Exactly.
00:38:04.560 Colonize Mars.
00:38:05.820 Ooh, that's a big one.
00:38:07.040 Yeah.
00:38:07.460 That's a big one.
00:38:08.160 People have been waiting years, decades for this.
00:38:11.140 Yeah.
00:38:12.300 It totally is a skit.
00:38:13.580 Shows it up, right?
00:38:14.880 Sir, we have an executive order to claim Greenland as part of America.
00:38:18.420 Ooh, that's a big one.
00:38:19.920 But to, to the, to Blake's earlier point, how many of these things are so dramatic, so sweeping
00:38:25.700 that they would have, they would have dominated previous news cycles.
00:38:29.100 I want to go back to this, uh, birthright citizenship.
00:38:33.440 There is zero arguments that I have ever heard that make me convinced that the 14th amendment
00:38:39.540 was for anybody but slaves and maybe arguably American Indians.
00:38:43.880 So build it out because media matters is-
00:38:44.600 Actually, it's not.
00:38:45.500 No, well, what?
00:38:47.180 It, it, I, I could talk more, but it's specifically not about Native Americans.
00:38:50.680 Well, I know, that's what I'm getting at.
00:38:52.600 They actually had to, okay, so this is part of my point.
00:38:54.520 Oh, okay.
00:38:55.120 So, so there's a guy named Senator Jacob Howard.
00:38:58.060 He was a senator at the time when they were passing the 14th amendment.
00:39:01.540 And they're arguing on the Senate floor.
00:39:04.500 And so, so he's contended that it should be construed to mean, so this is back to that,
00:39:09.300 that clause that everybody likes to talk about, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
00:39:13.860 Now, Senate, the, you know, Senator Jacob Howard said it should be a full, it should be construed
00:39:20.600 to mean a full and complete jurisdiction, like the same jurisdiction in extent and quality
00:39:26.080 as applies to every citizen of the United States now.
00:39:29.560 And so why this is important is because that construct meant that American Indians would
00:39:37.280 not be granted citizenship because they were loyal to a, another sovereign, namely their,
00:39:44.060 the tribal powers, right?
00:39:45.640 They were part of the, their tribal nations.
00:39:47.700 Tribal nations.
00:39:49.100 So they actually had to, Senator James Doolittle of Wisconsin added a provision, an amendment
00:39:57.860 that had to add languages, Indians not taxed.
00:40:01.920 So this is how obvious it would have been to the writers of the 14th amendment
00:40:06.820 that of course this was not meant to be gamed by foreigners that just, you know, come over
00:40:12.780 nine months pregnant and have a baby on this side of the border and they get rewarded for
00:40:17.540 that act of heroism.
00:40:18.880 No, they literally had to carve out Native Americans because they were born in the continental
00:40:23.680 United States to make sure that they were also included in this provision, in the, in
00:40:28.200 the amendment.
00:40:29.120 So this whole thing, I remember you posted it the day it happened, it was news, this ending
00:40:34.680 of birthright citizenship for illegals and, you know, sure enough, everybody's like, well,
00:40:39.060 it's in the constitution.
00:40:39.960 You can't just like change it with an executive order.
00:40:41.640 It's like, hold on.
00:40:42.960 This has been such a bastard.
00:40:44.580 And Blake, you would probably know more than I would on the, how many different ways the
00:40:48.460 14th amendment has led to terrible readings of the constitution.
00:40:53.440 It's one of the touch points of, of constitutional law that just seems to always come back around
00:41:00.160 and get interpreted in the most awful way.
00:41:02.480 But, but absolutely the 14th amendment was not meant to reward people who break into
00:41:07.900 your country.
00:41:08.860 Yeah.
00:41:09.020 It's, it's ridiculous.
00:41:10.000 Like what it is, is the Supreme court decision that does is very old.
00:41:13.800 It was a United States versus Wong Kim Ark was the name of it.
00:41:17.760 Wong Kim Ark was a man of Chinese descent.
00:41:21.060 His parents were Chinese immigrants who came to the United States.
00:41:24.700 And the ruling in that case was, okay, his parents were permanent residents of the United
00:41:29.140 States.
00:41:30.060 They had him.
00:41:31.300 And he, so even though they, they themselves had been citizens and subjects of China, since
00:41:34.920 they were legally living in America, he was a U S citizen at best.
00:41:38.980 You can just say that, that codifies the interpretation that legal residents of the United States, their
00:41:44.720 kids have birthright citizenship, but it's like, just take it.
00:41:49.260 Basically the bureaucracy in Washington just made the grab and said, yeah, actually illegal
00:41:53.920 immigrants also count for this.
00:41:55.580 And also people who come here on tourist visas who are like here on very temporary residency
00:42:00.800 or non, or just travelers.
00:42:02.580 They also count.
00:42:03.720 We're just going to make that grab.
00:42:05.340 And then you have all these constitutional experts going around and saying, this is super
00:42:09.240 decided.
00:42:09.740 It's super clear cut.
00:42:10.760 They're liars.
00:42:11.580 It's disgusting.
00:42:12.860 And we're going to go to the Supreme court.
00:42:16.440 Yeah, a hundred percent.
00:42:17.480 We'll see how Amy Coney Barrett rules on it.
00:42:20.080 We'll see what happens with that.
00:42:21.180 But I think they're going to, I think they're going to be victorious because to me, there's
00:42:24.880 a very logical reading of the 14th amendment.
00:42:26.540 You want to know the dirty truth about the 14th amendment?
00:42:28.780 Birthright citizenship was a scheme that was enacted in order to displace native peoples
00:42:39.920 by colonialist powers.
00:42:42.140 So they would come and move in.
00:42:43.500 The Spanish would come in and they would create birthright citizenship in order to displace
00:42:48.200 native peoples.
00:42:49.180 Well, as Americans, we're all the native peoples of this land now.
00:42:53.900 And it's being brought back around and being used against Americans.
00:42:57.860 So it's a whole, the whole topic I'm very passionate about, as you might tell, but it's what's
00:43:02.640 crazy again, to make the point, this would be front page everywhere.
00:43:07.240 If, if, if it wasn't for the deluge of so much other stuff.
00:43:11.100 Well, and Andrew, as well to the, as I wrote on it coming up on this and, you know, I want
00:43:15.520 to be legal point too much, but it's, he was talking about, Oh, this is, you know, this
00:43:20.200 is going to affect the visa holders who are currently here because that would mean their
00:43:23.640 kids don't get to become a, it would, it would affect legal immigrant visa holders.
00:43:29.580 And I'm like, wait a minute, a visa holder is not an immigrant by definition.
00:43:33.860 A visa is temporary.
00:43:35.560 All visas are temporary.
00:43:37.680 So that means you're a visitor.
00:43:39.860 When I want to go visit certain countries, you need a visa.
00:43:42.580 That's how that works.
00:43:43.840 So you get a visa, you go, you conduct business, whatever it is, you're a visitor, you're a
00:43:47.760 visitor there.
00:43:48.120 If I, like, for example, I lived in China for two years, I was there on a visa, right?
00:43:52.480 If I had, I wasn't married to Tanya at the time, but if I was and we had kids, they wouldn't
00:43:57.520 automatically become Chinese citizens.
00:43:59.940 Of course not.
00:44:00.480 And because we were on a visa.
00:44:02.860 And by the way, even if we were there under other circumstances, it's a really hard process.
00:44:07.500 So the idea that someone who's here on a temporary basis, either as a worker or a student or what,
00:44:13.280 or just tourism, like this birth tourism crap that goes on, it's ridiculous.
00:44:17.800 It's always been ridiculous.
00:44:19.540 There's never been a country that's been more silly about its immigration status than the
00:44:23.860 United States.
00:44:24.920 And look, I get a lot of this goes back to the idea of birthright citizenship in, it goes
00:44:29.820 back to the new world because early on, and Blake, I'm sure you can attest to this, that
00:44:33.840 it was that North and South America were colonies.
00:44:36.860 And so they needed to attract, you know, attract colonists.
00:44:40.700 It was a colonialist scheme.
00:44:41.740 But the idea was they wanted more people to come over.
00:44:45.140 So as a way of attraction, as a potential boon or benefit to you is to say, hey, by the
00:44:49.820 way, when you come here, your kids will automatically be citizens.
00:44:52.620 They won't have to go through that process.
00:44:54.380 That makes sense if we're still a brand new country, not full of people.
00:44:59.280 So it's perfectly obvious to anyone that if you want to update that framework for a new
00:45:05.840 situation, of course you can do so.
00:45:07.740 And oh, by the way, the U.S. Congress and the U.S. government certainly is well within
00:45:12.380 their rights to do so.
00:45:13.380 So check this out.
00:45:15.380 France, New Zealand, and Australia have all abandoned birthright citizenship in the past
00:45:20.320 few decades.
00:45:21.080 Ireland was the last...
00:45:22.320 And Australia was another colony.
00:45:23.360 Yes.
00:45:23.800 Ireland was the last country in the European Union to follow it.
00:45:28.460 But they even abolished birthright citizenship in 2005.
00:45:32.220 It's a completely dumb idea.
00:45:34.360 Like, in our current context.
00:45:36.380 To your point, maybe it had some value as they were looking to colonize the Western Hemisphere.
00:45:42.120 At this point, it is completely and utterly idiotic.
00:45:47.640 And you're just incentivizing all the wrong things.
00:45:50.000 But again, I haven't seen too many stories about it, to be honest.
00:45:54.100 I mean, I'm looking at it now and people are certainly writing about it.
00:45:57.400 But if you look at nightly news, if you look at all the thought pieces, it's not really the
00:46:01.260 center of attention, which is truly remarkable.
00:46:03.800 So I guess, Blake, do you think you mentioned LBJ, the reversal of LBJ's affirmative action
00:46:13.240 executive order.
00:46:14.420 What would be your next...
00:46:16.180 What's next on your list?
00:46:18.380 Oh, man.
00:46:19.420 After the LBJ one, that one's just so big.
00:46:24.320 That one can be so...
00:46:25.520 Will be so monumental if they really follow up on it.
00:46:29.900 Because it's not just...
00:46:31.280 One, it's repealing an executive order.
00:46:33.300 So they basically can't...
00:46:35.300 It's going to be very hard for the left to try to reverse this.
00:46:38.760 And then they follow it up with, by the way, actually, we're going to start going after
00:46:43.200 you if you have all these programs that treat people differently based on race.
00:46:46.620 Actually, that's illegal.
00:46:48.260 And it's always been illegal.
00:46:49.760 And it's been such a big revolution on the right to, you know, come out and publicly
00:46:55.220 say this is the case.
00:46:56.540 We all owe a big debt to Chris Caldwell.
00:46:59.280 His book about six years ago, The Age of Entitlement, was, as far as I can remember, the first book
00:47:04.200 to really just come out loudly and say that.
00:47:06.400 And it's swept the right since then.
00:47:08.400 And after that one, my personal favorite, honestly, just like genuinely, the level of aggression
00:47:17.160 on immigration, both in the interior and at the border, where they say, okay, it's an
00:47:23.500 emergency.
00:47:24.100 We're getting rid of the CBP-1 Act.
00:47:25.980 We're going to say, you can send them back without a hearing if you get caught coming into
00:47:30.660 the U.S.
00:47:31.420 And I'm hearing chatter.
00:47:33.360 Charlie probably knows more than I do.
00:47:35.320 But I'm hearing chatter.
00:47:36.380 Like, there's more coming.
00:47:37.620 They're very serious about building the infrastructure to fix the immigration crisis.
00:47:44.160 Because you have all these, like, hacks and lunatics in the press who will say, oh, just
00:47:48.760 deporting people is impossible.
00:47:50.460 So you see little things.
00:47:51.700 Like, the military says, oh, we're willing to have military planes assist in deportation
00:47:56.160 flights.
00:47:56.980 And when you see them, they surprise fired the people at the top of, like, the immigration,
00:48:02.740 like, our immigration court apparatus.
00:48:05.520 That shows how serious they are.
00:48:07.340 They are cleaning house.
00:48:08.920 Because if you really dig into the details, America's immigration enforcement system was
00:48:14.760 a sham.
00:48:15.840 The Biden administration had created this giant legal sham whose purpose is to disguise
00:48:21.380 waving everyone into the United States who wanted to come here.
00:48:25.540 It was all dressed up.
00:48:26.960 We're like, okay, well, they come across the border.
00:48:30.200 And, oh, but we need to give them an asylum hearing.
00:48:33.620 We don't want to take away due process.
00:48:35.880 We have to do an asylum hearing.
00:48:37.460 Well, okay, but we have a backlog.
00:48:39.840 So we have to give them a court date in the asylum courts.
00:48:43.740 But it's going to be a while from now.
00:48:45.240 It might be six months.
00:48:46.520 It might be a year.
00:48:47.420 It might be six years.
00:48:48.560 You know, that's just how it is.
00:48:49.460 We've got to give them due process.
00:48:51.020 And then you let them into the U.S.
00:48:53.180 The court hearing date comes around.
00:48:55.440 What if they don't show up?
00:48:56.800 Oh, well, we've ordered ICE to only focus on finding dangerous criminals.
00:49:02.340 So we're not going to prioritize finding those people who blow off their asylum hearings.
00:49:07.420 It's all a joke.
00:49:08.560 It was all a sham.
00:49:10.240 So Trump comes in and he says, all right, sham's over.
00:49:14.340 You don't get your asylum hearing if we catch you crossing here illegally.
00:49:17.620 Got to go to the port of entry.
00:49:19.140 Deal with it.
00:49:20.240 And we're going to replace the guy at the top of the immigration courts.
00:49:23.740 We're going to hire new people at the immigration courts.
00:49:26.360 We're going to clear the backlog.
00:49:28.080 And we're going to say that ICE can go find people, arrest people.
00:49:33.420 There's multiple orders going into this.
00:49:35.780 But it's the sheer aggression of saying all those things you supposedly can't do.
00:49:41.200 Yeah, we're doing it.
00:49:42.860 And I look forward to one of these things we're going to hear.
00:49:45.480 The left is all going to say, well, we can't let, you know,
00:49:49.500 these countries aren't going to take their illegal immigrants back.
00:49:52.200 Well, I think we can get pretty creative on that front.
00:49:54.260 I have some friends who I think are going, who are going to be going in that field.
00:49:58.660 And I'm telling them, well, guys, good news.
00:50:00.920 Most of the world borders a body of water.
00:50:03.180 So we can go and we can drop them in a little dinghy with a rowboat
00:50:06.900 and tell them to go back to their country.
00:50:09.660 I'm really looking forward to this.
00:50:11.740 I think the administration is serious.
00:50:14.400 Stephen Miller knows what he wants to do.
00:50:16.840 It's awesome.
00:50:17.760 That all collectively is my second favorite thing.
00:50:20.160 I just want to give Stephen Miller, like, a slow clap.
00:50:25.060 Like, every new, you know what I mean?
00:50:26.660 It's like, this man was born for just such a time as this.
00:50:31.940 And, you know, by the way, being, so this is a point that Charlie actually made on Twitter.
00:50:39.260 He and I talked about it.
00:50:41.120 It was, you know, this idea that everybody has given a lot of attention to Trump being stronger, tougher,
00:50:47.500 you know, more focused than he was in the first term, right?
00:50:51.220 Trump 1.0 is not Trump 2.0.
00:50:53.200 Just look at the pictures, right?
00:50:55.340 Well, the meme is the, it's the punished Trump.
00:50:57.260 Well, yeah, but he's also knows the system.
00:51:00.680 He knows DC.
00:51:01.820 Right.
00:51:02.060 He understands how everything works.
00:51:04.280 He knows who he can trust, who he doesn't, who he can't trust.
00:51:06.260 He knows who got in his way.
00:51:07.280 You saw it in his interview last night.
00:51:07.920 What's that?
00:51:08.360 You saw it in his interview last night.
00:51:09.400 Oh, 100%.
00:51:10.140 They put me through hell.
00:51:11.280 Yeah, they did.
00:51:11.900 And, but what we're not appreciating enough is the fact that guys like, you know, James
00:51:19.580 Blair, Sergio Gore, J.D. Vance, these young guns, Stephen Miller, also was steeped in the
00:51:28.440 same experiences, lived through it alongside him, saw what they did, saw how corrupt and
00:51:33.100 depraved and aggressive they were with President Trump.
00:51:37.500 All of these guys, this new generation, this new crop is ready to get to work.
00:51:44.000 They're not afraid to use power.
00:51:45.760 They're going for it.
00:51:46.940 Rules, customs, norms, legacy, regime, media, be damned.
00:51:51.140 We're going to get the job done.
00:51:52.560 Now, the Constitution still matters, obviously.
00:51:54.500 We all love the Constitution, so you have to work within the framework.
00:51:57.660 But some of these things are just simply a lack of creativity and a lack of courage,
00:52:02.220 and that's not going to be getting in the way any longer.
00:52:05.380 I just got a word from Philadelphia.
00:52:08.220 I'm going to be digging into this bigger, but possible breaking news word that ICE is
00:52:15.060 conducting raids in Kensington, Philadelphia.
00:52:18.140 Kensington is that area where you see the fentanyl zombies going around back and forth.
00:52:23.620 And so your biggest fentanyl dealers in the city, of course, many of whom have cartel ties,
00:52:28.440 are going to be servicing that.
00:52:30.860 And so that's exactly where they go because they know where all the fentanyl zombies are.
00:52:35.800 And, yeah, I just got word from someone that's down in Philly that, and, again, it's, you know,
00:52:41.780 caveat, caveat, caveat.
00:52:43.140 But, yeah, something that ICE is up down there.
00:52:45.620 I wouldn't be surprised.
00:52:45.920 I mean, it would make a lot of sense.
00:52:47.800 Yeah, I mean, I think they have a definite strategy of going to blue cities where the local municipalities
00:52:54.640 have made the decision that they're going to be sanctuaries.
00:52:56.620 They're not going to aid or help, which can we just take a step back and ask ourselves how insane that is.
00:53:04.140 If you know the whereabouts of a criminal, you know the misdeeds that this criminal has done,
00:53:10.480 and yet you refuse to remove said criminal from your streets simply because he or she is an illegal immigrant,
00:53:18.000 the amount of insanity, I think, you know, Charles said it earlier on the show this morning,
00:53:24.540 but it was like they hate Trump so much that they've fallen in love with MS-13.
00:53:28.960 They hate Trump so much that they've fallen in love with the criminal.
00:53:31.980 They hate Trump so much that they have fallen in love with murderers and rapists
00:53:36.000 more so than their love for their common man and their fellow citizen.
00:53:38.840 That is an extraordinary psychological picture to take in and fully absorb.
00:53:46.100 And when you get to these ice raids in these cities and the fact that these cities are harboring fugitives of the law
00:53:53.940 and they are protecting them from accountability when they rape little girls,
00:53:58.480 when they kill people, when they stab people, when they get them addicted to fentanyl
00:54:03.100 and other drugs that are going to kill them, the extraordinarily dereliction of duty is almost unfathomable.
00:54:09.820 It's difficult to comprehend what that would mean.
00:54:12.480 Charlie, we just got a—it's rumor status, but this is thought crime, so why not?
00:54:16.880 We got a rumor that ICE is up in Kensington, Philadelphia tonight.
00:54:21.300 Oh, really?
00:54:22.040 Yeah, where all the fentanyl zombies are.
00:54:24.720 Unbelievable.
00:54:25.080 I mean, just going after all the dealers down there.
00:54:26.800 I mean, they're merchants of death.
00:54:28.040 Let's do one of our reads, and then if there's nothing else, we'll end with a CCP.
00:54:33.580 I'm interested in hearing about the CCP.
00:54:35.360 I want to play that meme with Tom Homan, but yeah.
00:54:37.760 All right.
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00:55:28.400 Okay, meme time, and then CCP.
00:55:30.620 Yeah, let's go ahead.
00:55:31.940 So this is a big story today.
00:55:35.360 It was actually from Bill Malusian.
00:55:36.840 He went into Boston.
00:55:37.780 He was embedded exclusively.
00:55:39.280 Good for him.
00:55:39.780 Great journalist.
00:55:40.400 With the ICE raids that were going on in Boston.
00:55:43.520 He gets this Haitian guy who shouts out,
00:55:48.640 I'm never going back to Haiti.
00:55:50.680 You know, F Trump.
00:55:52.820 Joe Biden forever, bro.
00:55:55.040 Please thank Obama for everything he did for me.
00:55:57.820 I mean, pretty stark stuff.
00:55:59.080 So much to the point that Blake didn't believe it was real.
00:56:01.960 It's real.
00:56:03.420 And then Tom Homan was asked,
00:56:05.740 what do you make of this guy's comments?
00:56:08.500 And it's already been meme-ified,
00:56:10.300 which is just, I just think it's so fantastic.
00:56:12.140 When you capture the vibe of a moment,
00:56:14.000 you just got to play it.
00:56:15.000 168.
00:56:16.440 I'm not going back to Haiti.
00:56:17.960 Well, he's wrong.
00:56:18.740 He's going back to Haiti.
00:56:19.560 Come on.
00:56:20.560 It really was, I still can't believe that it literally was
00:56:34.260 like what you'd have from a propaganda video.
00:56:37.260 The guy's like, I'm not going back to Haiti.
00:56:39.860 F Trump.
00:56:40.980 I love Biden.
00:56:41.960 I love Obama for what they did to me.
00:56:44.460 And he's like scowling and looking terrifying.
00:56:47.000 And it's like, you couldn't have made the ad better.
00:56:51.500 Like, unbelievable.
00:56:54.640 It's, yeah, it's a walking billboard for the new.
00:56:58.100 It sets the perfect tone.
00:56:59.300 Yeah.
00:56:59.480 And by the way, just so we're clear,
00:57:01.520 Trump, everything he's doing, the sense of,
00:57:05.400 by the way, we haven't even talked about 600 billion
00:57:07.780 from the Saudi prince, you know, crown prince.
00:57:10.520 We haven't talked about the 500 million.
00:57:12.340 Well, we'll see what strings are attached to that.
00:57:14.220 Well, maybe.
00:57:14.780 But, I mean, Trump's today, he's talking to the WF
00:57:17.280 and he's going, I'm going to have him round up
00:57:18.800 to a trillion.
00:57:19.860 You know, and you've got the SoftBank investment.
00:57:22.720 You've got Chrysler bringing jobs back.
00:57:25.920 Yeah, I mean, all of these things.
00:57:27.880 I mean, you know, Maria Bartiromo was reporting
00:57:30.120 from Davos and she was saying, like,
00:57:32.200 all these guys want to throw money at America.
00:57:34.240 The amount of optimism is insane.
00:57:36.080 And Trump is acting as the salesman, the agent of his country.
00:57:42.440 And him playing that role is so unique.
00:57:45.660 I mean, we've never seen a chief executive of the country
00:57:47.800 act like that.
00:57:49.560 I mean...
00:57:49.860 You kind of want Trump to sort of just be
00:57:51.400 the cheerleader for America.
00:57:53.280 Yeah.
00:57:53.640 And then, like, what's great about a J.D. Vance
00:57:56.220 is that he can sort of hunker down,
00:57:58.900 do the day-to-day stuff, go around the department.
00:58:01.460 I would love to see J.D. Vance, like, showing up.
00:58:03.680 Oh, he'll be making site visits.
00:58:05.160 You know, making site visits.
00:58:06.140 Cheney, I mean, basically embedded himself
00:58:07.920 in the DOD, right?
00:58:08.840 Yeah, Cheney is famous for this.
00:58:10.260 So why not?
00:58:11.200 It's kind of like, in the Navy, we would have,
00:58:13.540 you know, the CO-XO kind of relationship
00:58:15.400 where the XO is the executive officer of the ship
00:58:18.740 and his job is, like, you know,
00:58:20.340 make sure the ship's running properly,
00:58:22.080 make sure all the departments are functioning.
00:58:23.660 And then the CO, his job is, where's the ship going?
00:58:26.480 What's the mission?
00:58:27.420 What, you know, are we executing,
00:58:29.360 or are we clearly defining the mission?
00:58:33.220 Does the mission make sense?
00:58:34.320 That's the CO's job.
00:58:35.420 And then the XO, that's J.D. Vance.
00:58:37.380 So J.D. Vance is, I want him to make any site.
00:58:39.880 And by the way, not just here in D.C.,
00:58:41.320 but all around the country.
00:58:43.440 Okay, let's end with CCP?
00:58:45.260 Let's do it.
00:58:45.780 Okay, so the inauguration day begins
00:58:49.560 with a service at St. John's Episcopal Church,
00:58:52.580 which was the VVIP ticket.
00:58:55.360 Very difficult to get to.
00:58:56.500 In fact, in order to get in the rotunda as a guest,
00:58:59.680 you had to start in the St. John's Church.
00:59:04.040 So only those that were in St. John's Church
00:59:06.240 actually ended up getting tickets into the rotunda.
00:59:08.920 Joe Rogan was there.
00:59:10.520 Everyone was there.
00:59:11.340 So we had a lot of time to burn.
00:59:12.540 The president was a little bit late.
00:59:14.280 Church that Antifa tried to burn down?
00:59:15.720 Correct, right outside of the White House.
00:59:17.320 And so kind of going around,
00:59:18.900 and next thing you know,
00:59:19.960 I run into the vice president of China.
00:59:22.640 As you do.
00:59:24.140 Yeah, just normal.
00:59:25.760 Can I just say,
00:59:26.780 your life for the last while
00:59:29.680 has been super weird.
00:59:31.720 Rather remarkable.
00:59:33.020 So I was like,
00:59:33.940 I got to get a picture, right?
00:59:35.640 So I go up.
00:59:36.620 That's my picture
00:59:37.220 with the vice president of China.
00:59:38.620 Wait, have you tweeted this?
00:59:39.820 No.
00:59:40.660 Oh, gosh.
00:59:41.560 Not yet.
00:59:42.060 This is exclusive thought crime stuff here.
00:59:43.520 Here we go.
00:59:44.080 He saved it.
00:59:44.840 I wanted to tweet it.
00:59:45.940 JD did post his.
00:59:47.240 Yeah, so I should probably post mine, right?
00:59:48.880 Wasn't there something
00:59:49.420 where JD didn't release it,
00:59:50.600 but it was actually like a Chinese outlet
00:59:52.040 released it or something?
00:59:53.100 I have no idea.
00:59:54.140 So I don't know what this guy's name is.
00:59:56.400 He was really nice.
00:59:57.160 And so as soon as I get a picture of them,
00:59:59.500 some guy with a camera,
01:00:01.580 it's kind of one of those,
01:00:02.580 it's like a stick with a camera.
01:00:04.860 Do you know what I'm talking about?
01:00:05.340 Like a little stick as if you're looking.
01:00:06.980 Like a selfie stick.
01:00:08.100 Yeah, but it's like some sort of a technology
01:00:10.240 I haven't seen.
01:00:11.600 Okay.
01:00:11.840 Meaning it's like a stick,
01:00:12.820 but it has like a mobile camera
01:00:14.660 that kind of goes like this.
01:00:15.960 Oh, I know what you're talking about.
01:00:17.140 It's got like a,
01:00:18.500 oh, gosh.
01:00:20.200 I'm like bringing forward.
01:00:20.980 I know what you're talking about.
01:00:21.600 It's got like a GoPro on it.
01:00:22.480 So he goes up.
01:00:22.960 He's like, what's your name?
01:00:23.920 What's your name?
01:00:24.400 I said, my name's Jack Posobiec.
01:00:25.440 It's Han Jung.
01:00:26.140 And so.
01:00:26.740 Ah, great.
01:00:28.680 No, I said, my name's Charlie Kirk.
01:00:30.060 And then I said, whatever.
01:00:31.060 So then we go sit down.
01:00:33.220 And if you've ever been to St. John's Episcopal Church,
01:00:35.740 it's very tight, very close quarters.
01:00:39.300 And I'm not saying anything private
01:00:40.760 because everyone saw what was happening here.
01:00:43.460 And so up on the,
01:00:45.640 there's like this upper ring
01:00:47.640 where you look down on the service.
01:00:50.420 There's the,
01:00:51.380 one of the CCP handlers
01:00:52.880 is like filming the whole crowd.
01:00:56.380 He's filming everybody during the service.
01:00:58.940 So they can use facial recognition later.
01:00:59.780 Is it like one of these things?
01:01:00.860 Like where it's got the little like.
01:01:01.780 Yeah, yeah, that thing.
01:01:02.140 Yeah, that thing.
01:01:03.180 But no, so he's filming it.
01:01:04.780 So here's the Secret Service
01:01:06.140 who's like,
01:01:06.580 you can't bring water into the church.
01:01:09.100 Right.
01:01:09.420 And there's a Chinese Communist Party
01:01:11.960 aged government officials
01:01:13.840 like filming everybody.
01:01:15.820 And so all of a sudden
01:01:17.020 some of the White House staff is like,
01:01:18.180 they're starting to point up here.
01:01:19.340 He's like going down there.
01:01:20.920 He, they are so brazen.
01:01:23.340 Charlie, you know what else?
01:01:23.960 About espionage.
01:01:24.880 The three axis stabilization camera
01:01:26.680 where it kind of like.
01:01:27.500 Yeah, exactly.
01:01:28.340 So you know what else wouldn't surprise me?
01:01:29.760 Listening to our conversations.
01:01:30.820 You know what else wouldn't surprise me
01:01:32.000 is if they had some type of signal collector
01:01:35.400 on them as well.
01:01:36.380 So that if as the,
01:01:38.460 as the Vice President Han Jung,
01:01:40.540 if he was going around someone,
01:01:42.160 if he had a signal collector on him,
01:01:43.980 then what they could do
01:01:44.840 is time the video up
01:01:46.240 with the signal collector.
01:01:47.400 So when Charlie Kirk walks up,
01:01:49.900 then boom, if you had,
01:01:51.380 so did you have your cell phone on you?
01:01:52.480 Yeah.
01:01:52.780 Was your cell phone on?
01:01:53.780 Yeah.
01:01:54.360 Well, there you go.
01:01:54.940 So then boom,
01:01:56.400 that, that signal,
01:01:57.440 that number.
01:01:58.000 I'm changing my phone tonight.
01:01:58.760 That number pops up
01:02:00.060 in the signal collector.
01:02:01.140 By the way.
01:02:01.580 And he can say,
01:02:02.320 oh, this number must be associated
01:02:04.060 with this person.
01:02:04.760 So here's the thing.
01:02:05.540 My phone has been like.
01:02:06.640 Not that I would know anything about that.
01:02:07.540 On fire since I've been in the city.
01:02:08.860 I think this is why.
01:02:09.340 I think it's because
01:02:10.140 they're drag netting my phone.
01:02:11.640 I'm telling you.
01:02:12.340 Well, my,
01:02:12.980 you and I both.
01:02:13.680 I'm not joking, by the way.
01:02:14.880 That's like,
01:02:15.320 that's like not even.
01:02:16.680 That's like not even like.
01:02:17.480 That's like low level spy games.
01:02:19.800 So anyway,
01:02:20.640 what I got found so amazing
01:02:21.660 is that no one's told this guy to stop
01:02:24.060 until like 20 minutes in
01:02:25.300 and he's using a little gimbal
01:02:26.900 scanning the whole audience.
01:02:29.300 Like he's over the balcony.
01:02:30.920 Imagine like you're sitting down here.
01:02:32.340 I'm over the balcony.
01:02:33.360 And by the way,
01:02:33.960 this is not like a schlepping audience.
01:02:35.600 You had Scott Bessent.
01:02:36.920 You had Mark Zuckerberg.
01:02:38.320 You're the CEO of TikTok.
01:02:39.700 You had Jeff Bezos.
01:02:40.840 You had Sam Altman.
01:02:41.740 Don't forget Jeff Bezos.
01:02:43.400 Significant other.
01:02:44.440 What?
01:02:44.960 I said,
01:02:45.540 don't forget Jeff Bezos.
01:02:46.640 Significant other.
01:02:47.460 I don't remember.
01:02:47.860 They were all in church, right?
01:02:49.180 And her daughters.
01:02:49.740 So they're all in church
01:02:50.620 and he is scanning
01:02:51.640 every single one of them
01:02:53.080 from the balcony
01:02:54.020 doing signal collecting.
01:02:55.420 God knows what.
01:02:55.960 Yeah, because the problem
01:02:56.620 with the signal collector like that
01:02:57.860 is when you go into a crowd,
01:02:59.580 you're going to get all the signals,
01:03:00.960 but they're not going to be
01:03:02.140 associated with individuals.
01:03:03.720 And that's why you need
01:03:04.640 to pair it with the video
01:03:05.580 so you can determine,
01:03:06.440 okay, Charlie Kirk walks by
01:03:08.740 and then boom,
01:03:09.400 we collected the signal.
01:03:10.300 You have to remember.
01:03:11.820 And then boom,
01:03:12.300 we got the signal.
01:03:13.240 You have to remember
01:03:14.060 this was happening
01:03:14.980 while Joe Biden
01:03:15.880 was still president.
01:03:17.020 And we should never forget this.
01:03:18.520 We should just never forget
01:03:19.480 how Joe Biden
01:03:20.340 was the worst
01:03:21.380 freaking president ever.
01:03:23.280 This is a true headline.
01:03:24.600 I'm reading it verbatim
01:03:26.540 from Politico.
01:03:28.120 This happened in 2022.
01:03:30.260 DOJ shuts down
01:03:32.000 China-focused
01:03:33.060 anti-espionage program.
01:03:35.260 The China initiative
01:03:36.220 is being cast aside
01:03:39.120 largely because of perceptions
01:03:41.220 that it unfairly painted
01:03:43.700 U.S. residents
01:03:44.940 of Chinese origin
01:03:46.380 as disloyal.
01:03:48.000 They stopped doing
01:03:49.700 China-counter-espionage
01:03:51.460 because they were worried
01:03:52.880 it was racist,
01:03:53.860 that their China-counter-espionage
01:03:55.620 focused too much
01:03:57.080 on people from China.
01:04:01.000 They hated America.
01:04:02.500 Somebody at the pre-ceremony
01:04:05.360 for the presidential inauguration,
01:04:07.100 hours before Trump
01:04:07.880 runs the government,
01:04:09.040 is brazingly spying
01:04:11.500 on every incoming
01:04:12.960 cabinet member.
01:04:14.860 And then finally,
01:04:15.540 about 10 minutes in,
01:04:16.380 someone goes up to him
01:04:17.040 and taps him on the shoulder
01:04:17.900 and says,
01:04:18.300 stop it.
01:04:18.920 Knock it off.
01:04:21.200 Everyone in the White House
01:04:22.100 staff, to their credit,
01:04:22.940 was like,
01:04:23.360 what's going on up there?
01:04:24.220 People were pointing
01:04:25.100 and they don't care.
01:04:26.420 They just,
01:04:27.420 like this,
01:04:28.680 scanning conversations,
01:04:30.360 the whole thing.
01:04:30.940 And for all I know,
01:04:33.360 you know,
01:04:33.560 they've probably got
01:04:35.720 AI loaded on there.
01:04:36.660 They've probably got
01:04:37.140 facial recognition.
01:04:38.420 They could have something
01:04:39.080 where,
01:04:39.540 they could even have something
01:04:40.780 where depending on
01:04:41.740 the fidelity,
01:04:42.540 I mean,
01:04:42.720 you talk about Han Zhang,
01:04:43.800 this guy's the vice president
01:04:44.660 of China.
01:04:45.940 Funny enough,
01:04:46.540 I actually met him
01:04:47.380 like almost 20 years ago
01:04:49.540 when he was the mayor
01:04:51.000 of Shanghai
01:04:51.800 because he happened
01:04:53.520 to be the mayor
01:04:53.900 when I lived there.
01:04:55.160 And they could have
01:04:58.580 collections on there
01:05:00.040 with high enough fidelity
01:05:00.920 that they were picking up
01:05:01.940 every conversation
01:05:02.900 in the room
01:05:03.640 at the same time
01:05:04.760 and then using AI
01:05:06.660 to isolate voices
01:05:07.920 and break it out
01:05:08.920 so that they could later
01:05:09.840 go back and listen
01:05:10.580 to every single
01:05:11.460 individual private conversation
01:05:12.740 that's going on.
01:05:12.760 Well, by the way,
01:05:13.200 the most common camera,
01:05:15.080 right,
01:05:15.380 that with a gimbal,
01:05:16.100 I guess is what it's called,
01:05:17.720 is DJI.
01:05:19.680 DJI.
01:05:20.440 Which is...
01:05:20.980 Which is the Chinese.
01:05:21.520 Chinese, yeah.
01:05:22.280 Which, by the way,
01:05:23.000 we were contracting
01:05:23.920 at both federal
01:05:25.260 and state governments,
01:05:26.340 like a lot of them,
01:05:27.220 and they,
01:05:28.200 I think during the first
01:05:29.360 Trump administration,
01:05:29.900 they flagged it
01:05:30.740 as like a potential spyware.
01:05:32.220 So, do you believe
01:05:32.840 all this that I'm saying, Jack?
01:05:33.820 This is very believable
01:05:34.500 to you, right?
01:05:35.380 I would be surprised
01:05:36.560 if they weren't,
01:05:37.220 to be honest.
01:05:38.360 What amazed me,
01:05:39.580 and it was such a microcosm
01:05:41.180 of the failure of Biden,
01:05:42.080 because that was
01:05:42.500 Biden's government.
01:05:43.240 Trump had no power
01:05:43.940 at that time.
01:05:45.000 It's just like
01:05:45.560 the indifference.
01:05:46.780 Like, no one
01:05:47.560 who is currently
01:05:48.280 on government
01:05:48.800 was like,
01:05:49.560 yeah, they're just...
01:05:51.000 Meanwhile,
01:05:51.360 Charlie Kirk's going like,
01:05:52.500 hey, hey.
01:05:53.560 Not only that,
01:05:54.140 like, by the way,
01:05:55.060 Sergio's turning around,
01:05:55.940 he's like,
01:05:56.140 what the hell's going on here?
01:05:56.960 Yeah.
01:05:57.280 Everyone's like this and that,
01:05:58.500 and like, pointing,
01:05:59.300 like, at least 10 people
01:06:00.300 are noticing
01:06:00.800 that the Chinese delegation
01:06:02.520 is using
01:06:03.640 some sort of Chinese
01:06:05.360 listening device scanning.
01:06:07.120 It wasn't just like,
01:06:07.840 he was like,
01:06:08.340 over the balcony like this.
01:06:10.280 Yeah.
01:06:10.940 He wasn't being subtle.
01:06:12.000 No, there was no subtlety.
01:06:13.200 Yeah.
01:06:13.980 So, that's my CCP story,
01:06:15.680 and I met
01:06:16.360 the J.D. Vance of China.
01:06:18.480 The J.D. Vance of China.
01:06:20.520 Fair enough.
01:06:21.300 It's a good description.
01:06:22.180 By the way,
01:06:22.420 how did I do in my picture?
01:06:23.200 I think I passed
01:06:23.960 the line test, right?
01:06:24.800 No, it's hilarious, by the way.
01:06:26.060 You're just like,
01:06:26.660 straight up.
01:06:28.480 I can just imagine
01:06:30.060 your thought process
01:06:31.240 in that moment,
01:06:31.840 like, don't be too friendly.
01:06:33.420 Yeah, exactly.
01:06:34.340 Yeah, this guy,
01:06:35.220 I mean, this guy,
01:06:36.500 so, to give you
01:06:37.260 a little background on him,
01:06:38.240 so, having been the,
01:06:40.840 he was the mayor
01:06:42.340 of Shanghai when,
01:06:44.520 but the mayor in China
01:06:46.420 is not the highest
01:06:47.500 position in the city.
01:06:49.020 It's like a province
01:06:49.780 or city, right?
01:06:50.820 Well, Shanghai is kind of
01:06:52.080 province level, correct,
01:06:53.360 which is correct.
01:06:53.940 Beijing is similar.
01:06:55.280 So, but that's not
01:06:56.620 the highest ranking official
01:06:57.720 in an area
01:06:59.240 because whoever's highest ranking
01:07:01.080 is always going to be
01:07:01.780 your party secretary.
01:07:02.880 So, the party secretary
01:07:03.900 is always going to outrank
01:07:05.300 whoever the official mayor is.
01:07:06.680 And the party secretary
01:07:07.820 of Shanghai,
01:07:09.220 when this guy was the mayor,
01:07:10.640 was a guy by the name
01:07:11.840 of Xi Jinping.
01:07:13.340 So, this guy
01:07:14.740 and Xi Jinping
01:07:15.440 go back,
01:07:16.360 go way, way, way back.
01:07:18.600 He was instrumental
01:07:19.460 in getting Xi Jinping
01:07:20.380 picked to the Politburo
01:07:22.320 all the way back in 2012
01:07:23.640 when he ascended up
01:07:24.700 and to the presidency,
01:07:26.740 quote, unquote,
01:07:27.260 chairmanship
01:07:27.620 when he came up.
01:07:28.540 So, he's been along with them.
01:07:30.040 So, this is one
01:07:30.880 of his most trusted guys.
01:07:31.440 Even the fact
01:07:32.260 that Trump chose
01:07:33.380 to invite President Xi
01:07:35.000 and then he sent
01:07:36.100 his vice president
01:07:37.220 was fairly remarkable
01:07:38.820 and newsworthy.
01:07:39.700 It's not really done.
01:07:40.620 No, it's not something
01:07:41.700 that's really done.
01:07:42.820 Foreign leaders don't,
01:07:44.120 I don't think have ever
01:07:44.740 come to a presidential
01:07:46.660 inauguration before.
01:07:47.960 And it's funny, too,
01:07:49.460 because Trump clearly
01:07:51.040 just, it's just free money
01:07:52.340 that's just sitting
01:07:53.340 on the table
01:07:53.800 and he just goes
01:07:54.260 and picks it up
01:07:54.840 because obviously
01:07:55.720 in the back of his head
01:07:56.660 he's remembering
01:07:57.360 King Charles'
01:07:58.180 coronation ceremony
01:07:59.080 which was, you know,
01:08:00.020 only a couple,
01:08:00.480 like what,
01:08:00.780 a couple of months ago
01:08:01.560 and all the world leaders
01:08:03.260 went to that
01:08:03.820 so why wouldn't they come
01:08:04.960 to his inauguration ceremony?
01:08:06.100 It just makes sense.
01:08:07.180 Well, it's also,
01:08:07.840 I think,
01:08:08.100 an acknowledgement
01:08:08.640 of the, you know,
01:08:12.300 the dynamic
01:08:12.960 that has existed
01:08:14.140 with China
01:08:14.680 when Trump first
01:08:15.480 started tariffing China
01:08:17.160 in the first administration.
01:08:19.120 They are the big
01:08:20.080 geopolitical foe
01:08:21.700 and so it's a power move
01:08:23.520 to say,
01:08:23.940 hey, listen,
01:08:24.400 like I'm going to be
01:08:24.860 really tough on you
01:08:25.640 but hey,
01:08:26.200 you know,
01:08:26.380 we can get along.
01:08:27.440 Yeah, it's actually funny
01:08:28.020 because Trump is
01:08:28.620 extremely popular
01:08:29.900 within China.
01:08:31.100 Is he?
01:08:31.340 Oh yeah,
01:08:32.120 like the Chinese people
01:08:32.860 love him.
01:08:33.320 They can't get enough
01:08:33.900 of him.
01:08:34.220 They just,
01:08:34.580 there's like,
01:08:35.500 if you go on
01:08:36.940 the Chinese version
01:08:38.420 of TikTok,
01:08:39.360 you'll find all sorts
01:08:40.240 of people doing
01:08:40.820 like impersonations
01:08:42.120 of Trump
01:08:42.660 and using it in,
01:08:43.520 using like Trump
01:08:44.160 impersonations in ads
01:08:45.440 and they just,
01:08:46.000 they think he's great.
01:08:46.720 Well,
01:08:46.940 I think Trump
01:08:47.480 is experiencing
01:08:48.180 a boon in popularity
01:08:49.360 not only domestically
01:08:50.360 but internationally.
01:08:51.140 I mean,
01:08:51.760 Raheem Kassam,
01:08:52.620 mutual friend,
01:08:53.640 says that in London now
01:08:55.100 you'll see tons of MAGA hats.
01:08:57.160 The Wall Street Journal
01:08:58.500 famous Raheem Kassam,
01:08:59.840 by the way,
01:09:00.200 you see that piece
01:09:00.720 on his new club
01:09:02.220 this morning?
01:09:02.720 I did, yeah.
01:09:03.500 Have you guys been by yet?
01:09:04.700 Butterworths?
01:09:05.300 Butterworths.
01:09:05.680 Yeah,
01:09:05.980 I was there this week,
01:09:07.320 yes.
01:09:07.580 Yeah, yeah.
01:09:08.480 I may or may not
01:09:09.840 be there tomorrow.
01:09:10.540 We'll see.
01:09:10.920 You got to go, man.
01:09:12.320 Raheem's new club
01:09:13.060 downtown.
01:09:13.900 It's right on Capitol Hill.
01:09:15.240 Had huge profile
01:09:16.360 in the Wall Street Journal
01:09:17.180 this morning.
01:09:17.860 Everybody,
01:09:18.520 I will tell you
01:09:19.080 one of the most common
01:09:19.880 questions I've gotten
01:09:20.760 from journalists
01:09:21.640 is where's the new haunt?
01:09:22.980 Where's the new hang?
01:09:23.720 Because in Trump 1.0
01:09:25.540 it was Trump.
01:09:26.640 Waldorf has still
01:09:27.480 had some people going there.
01:09:29.160 But no,
01:09:29.800 I don't really know
01:09:30.460 the new place.
01:09:31.140 It used to be Trump Hotel.
01:09:32.060 That was like,
01:09:32.320 it's Butterworths.
01:09:34.360 Well,
01:09:34.700 it depends.
01:09:35.240 There's different,
01:09:35.760 different cliques,
01:09:38.260 right?
01:09:38.800 I think that's certainly
01:09:39.700 one of them.
01:09:40.600 Anyways.
01:09:41.120 All right,
01:09:41.400 guys.
01:09:41.780 Thank you for watching
01:09:43.140 Thought Crime.
01:09:44.820 God bless you guys
01:09:45.900 and make sure you
01:09:47.640 stay free of CCP spying.
01:09:50.760 Talk to you soon.
01:09:52.480 Thought Crime is Death.
01:09:53.540 Thought Crime is Death.
01:09:53.960 Thought Crime is Death.
01:09:54.760 I hate his love.